From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Mar 24 8:52:54 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C54737B404 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 08:52:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from usenix.org (voyager.usenix.org [131.106.3.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1674243FA3 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 08:52:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alex@usenix.org) Received: from voyager.usenix.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by usenix.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2OGqK2X019804 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 08:52:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from alex@localhost) by voyager.usenix.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h2OGqK5C019803 for advocacy@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 08:52:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 08:52:20 -0800 (PST) From: Alex Walker Message-Id: <200303241652.h2OGqK5C019803@voyager.usenix.org> Subject: Submission Deadline April 1, 2003 - BSDCon 2003 Content-Type: text To: undisclosed-recipients: ; X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.8 required=5.0 tests=MIME_HEADER_CTYPE_ONLY,UNDISC_RECIPS version=2.50 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The BSDCon 2003 Program Committee invites you to contribute original and innovative papers on topics related to BSD-derived systems and the Open Source world. 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Sincerely, Gregory Neil Shapiro BSDCon 2003 Program Chair To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 28 12:10:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D95437B401 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 12:10:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.online.ie (mail.online.ie [213.159.130.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF6E343FA3 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 12:10:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from relyod@cooperationireland.org) Received: from liffey.cooperationireland.org (unknown [217.67.143.158]) by mail.online.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0903AB060; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 20:10:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from IT3.cooperationireland.org (it3 [199.107.2.144]) h2SKANCi032091; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 20:10:23 GMT (envelope-from relyod@cooperationireland.org) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030328200211.0264ba78@199.107.2.1> X-Sender: relyod@199.107.2.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 20:10:22 +0000 To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org From: Mike Doyle Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.50 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) cc: steve@itx.ie Subject: I just love FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 20:10:59 -0000 Horror-story time I want to change ISP, from an isp where all the techies are not even in the same country as my co-lo facility, to a nice new ISP with knowledgeable techie support staff here in the same City that I'm in, one that offers dedicated servers for half the cost of the old ISP co-location facility. There is one ISP that seemed to fit the bill, and they even promised to set FreeBSD up on a new server for me. They couldn't. (Their techie is a linux-guru but failed to get FreeBSD running on the box. I don't know why) He installed RedHat 7.3. Binary packages only. Four days later, and I still can't get anything to install from sources. I didn't like RedHat three years ago when I first looked at it, and I absolutely HATE it now. While I admit that a certain amount of the problems I'm having this week stem simply from unfamiliarity with the specific assumptions that the RedHat people make, and assumptions that the ISP made in installing a binary only version, I am more and more impressed with how cleanly everything under FreeBSD works on hardware that it runs on. Anyway, enough venting. Suffice to say this experience has made me even more of a fan of our favourite OS that I was before. Is there any kind soul on the list who knows enough about FreeBSD, and enough about RedHat, that if I send them the DMESG output from the RedHat box, could tell me if it's possible to get FreeBSD to run on it? It may well need a custom kernel, as there were (so I'm told) problems getting FreeBSD 4.7 and/or FreeBSD 4.8RC to install. I'm under time pressure here - in that the old ISP is going to send me an invoice on Monday, and I'd like to be able to say "NO" rather than paying TWO ISPs at the same time for four months! (i.e. 1 full quarter) <>< ============================================================= ><> Michael Doyle email: relyod@cooperationireland.org Network Administrator personal email: relyod@indigo.ie Co-operation Ireland http://www.cooperationireland.org/ Phone: +353-1-661 0588 Fax: +353-1-661 8456 ********************************************************************* From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 28 13:21:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F150C37B401 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 13:21:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from astarte.volker.de (p5089182B.dip.t-dialin.net [80.137.24.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A55E43FA3 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 13:20:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@secspace.de) Received: from astarte.volker.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by astarte.volker.de (8.12.8/8.12.7) with SMTP id h2SLKpAR001092; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 22:20:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@secspace.de) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 22:20:51 +0100 From: Volker Kindermann Message-Id: <20030328222051.230487ef.freebsd@secspace.de> In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030328200211.0264ba78@199.107.2.1> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030328200211.0264ba78@199.107.2.1> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-18.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,IN_REP_TO,MISSING_HEADERS,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, RCVD_IN_NJABL,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,X_NJABL_DIALUP autolearn=ham version=2.50 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) cc: steve@itx.ie cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I just love FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 21:21:06 -0000 > Is there any kind soul on the list who knows enough about FreeBSD, and > enough about RedHat, that if I send them the DMESG output from the > RedHat box, could tell me if it's possible to get FreeBSD to run on > it? I would suggest that you post the dmesg on questions@freebsd.org. Perhaps I can help you but you'll reach a lot more people with much more knowledge on the questions-mailinglist. -volker