From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 1 04:12:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB3DF37B404 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 04:11:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0AD5543FE9 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 04:10:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 25192 invoked by uid 65534); 1 Jun 2003 11:10:36 -0000 Received: from p508BE8C3.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO oak.pohoyda.family) (80.139.232.195) by mail.gmx.net (mp011) with SMTP; 01 Jun 2003 13:10:36 +0200 Received: from oak.pohoyda.family (oak.pohoyda.family [127.0.0.1]) by oak.pohoyda.family (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h51BAZ5Z010004; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 13:10:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from apog@oak.pohoyda.family) Received: (from apog@localhost) by oak.pohoyda.family (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h51BAX6O010001; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 13:10:33 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 13:10:33 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200306011110.h51BAX6O010001@oak.pohoyda.family> From: Alexander Pohoyda To: Lukas Ertl In-reply-to: <20030601004527.W8988@korben.in.tern> (message from Lukas Ertl on Sun, 1 Jun 2003 00:56:53 +0200 (CEST)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: <200305302235.h4UMZQ4U012856@oak.pohoyda.family> <200305312117.h4VLHoU9000260@oak.pohoyda.family> <20030601004527.W8988@korben.in.tern> cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Advocacy opportunity in XFree86/xdm/xlogin X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 11:12:00 -0000 > Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 00:56:53 +0200 (CEST) > From: Lukas Ertl > > Well, but wdm is not installed by default, and I have never heard of > > it before. I would consider it a failed advocacy effort :-) > Why would it be a failed advocacy effort? Because it would never reach my eyes, if you didn't tell me. And a BSD logo is not the default there anyway (see below). > > I have just installed that port on 4.8-STABLE, and got an ugly Penguin > > face on my screen!! Thanks, but even XFree86 globe is better for me. > I'm not sure which port you installed, but on my box there's no "Penguin > face". I have installed wdm version 1.20_3 as in: root@oak:/usr/ports/x11/wdm# less distinfo MD5 (wdm/wdm-1.20.tar.gz) = 7d3a5debe5005ee481e821951d4c9194 root@oak:/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/wdm# less pixmaps/README The files in this directory can be used the "logo" for the login panel. "gnuLogo.xpm" is the "default" included by Login. The alternates can be used by specifying DisplayManager*wdmLogo /.../pixmaps/ at runtime. However, if I manually run wdmReconfig afterwards, I will get a beastie picture indeed. 2Kris: Shouldn't this be done by "make install"? If you ever find the time to fix it, please use this picture: http://www.daemon.li/downloads/daemon.png Thanks. > I didn't mean to put your artwork down. I just wanted to point out that > there's already something like what you proposed. Yes, I know and I appreciate your input very much. > > And, BTW, I deinstalled wdm port. That's not something I want to have > > on my machine. > Why that? It doesn't bite. I don't need it. XDM is fine for my needs. -- Alexander Pohoyda P.S.: Does anybody know a nicer replacement for xchooser? From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 1 10:41:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D96E437B401; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 10:41:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-169-104-32.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.169.104.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04F3343F75; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 10:41:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from rot13.obsecurity.org (rot13.obsecurity.org [10.0.0.5]) by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B078066B9B; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 10:41:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rot13.obsecurity.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 80DC6B1F; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 10:41:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 10:41:28 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Alexander Pohoyda Message-ID: <20030601174128.GA20930@rot13.obsecurity.org> References: <200305302235.h4UMZQ4U012856@oak.pohoyda.family> <20030531215958.U591@korben.in.tern> <200305312117.h4VLHoU9000260@oak.pohoyda.family> <20030601004527.W8988@korben.in.tern> <200306011110.h51BAX6O010001@oak.pohoyda.family> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200306011110.h51BAX6O010001@oak.pohoyda.family> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Advocacy opportunity in XFree86/xdm/xlogin X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 17:41:30 -0000 --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 01:10:33PM +0200, Alexander Pohoyda wrote: > Because it would never reach my eyes, if you didn't tell me. And a BSD > logo is not the default there anyway (see below). I'm pretty sure the BSD logo is the default..see r1.50 of Makefile. I've never had to do anything special to get the beastie logo in my wdm. Kris --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+2jrIWry0BWjoQKURApxRAJ4m0HuAsAxOk3yEVudXZbgcMCqFvwCgtS2Z y8wf6CEOVIQXmpgFVpdG354= =4IIE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/-- From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 08:39:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0CED37B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 08:39:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beastie.mckusick.com (pc-b202.wlan.inet.fi [194.89.117.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 286F843F85 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 08:39:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mckusick@beastie.mckusick.com) Received: from beastie.mckusick.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beastie.mckusick.com (8.12.8/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h52FdPwQ004201; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 08:39:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mckusick@beastie.mckusick.com) Message-Id: <200306021539.h52FdPwQ004201@beastie.mckusick.com> To: Alexander Pohoyda In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 31 May 2003 23:17:50 +0200." <200305312117.h4VLHoU9000260@oak.pohoyda.family> Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 08:39:25 -0700 From: Kirk McKusick cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Advocacy opportunity in XFree86/xdm/xlogin X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 15:39:50 -0000 I prefer the use of http://www.alexander-pohoyda.privat.t-online.de/etc/badge.xpm over this one (ugly green) http://www.alexander-pohoyda.privat.t-online.de/etc/beastie.xpm I prefer that the BSD Daemon be used in the context of BSD software. Clearly your proposed usage qualifies. I request that you include my copyright somewhere (it need not be displayed, but needs to be someplace that an interested party can find it). Marshall Kirk McKusick =-=-=-=-=-= Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 23:17:50 +0200 (CEST) From: Alexander Pohoyda To: Lukas Ertl CC: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, mckusick@mckusick.com In-reply-to: <20030531215958.U591@korben.in.tern> (message from Lukas Ertl on Sat, 31 May 2003 22:01:54 +0200 (CEST)) Subject: Re: Advocacy opportunity in XFree86/xdm/xlogin X-ASK-Info: Confirmed by User > From: Lukas Ertl > On Sat, 31 May 2003, Alexander Pohoyda wrote: > > I have found a suitable Beastie picture on FreeBSD.org site, and > > edited it a bit, to make it fit xlogin application. > > xlogin is used by xdm, as you well know. > > By default, XFree86 globe picture is displayed, and I thought that it > > would be a good advocacy to display our own logo there. > > > > You can see it here: > > http://www.alexander-pohoyda.privat.t-online.de/etc/badge.png > > and XPM file for the X: > > http://www.alexander-pohoyda.privat.t-online.de/etc/badge.xpm > > /usr/ports/x11/wdm already comes with a beastie image as default pic (I > guess it's taken from the daemon in /usr/share/examples/BSD_daemon/.) Well, but wdm is not installed by default, and I have never heard of it before. I would consider it a failed advocacy effort :-) I have just installed that port on 4.8-STABLE, and got an ugly Penguin face on my screen!! Thanks, but even XFree86 globe is better for me. After that I had a look at the Beastie pixmap provided by the wdm port. Well.... I fully admit that the one I proposed before is far from perfection, but it looks much better anyway. And, BTW, I deinstalled wdm port. That's not something I want to have on my machine. I hope that Marshall Kirk McKusick will give us the permission to use the picture in this case. Please compare: http://www.alexander-pohoyda.privat.t-online.de/etc/beastie.xpm and http://www.alexander-pohoyda.privat.t-online.de/etc/badge.xpm Let's promote the BSD style wherever that is possible! -- Alexander Pohoyda P.S. Still not response from maintainers. From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 16:35:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA12237B401; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 16:35:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po3.wam.umd.edu (po3.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02FAB43F3F; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 16:35:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from atrus@wam.umd.edu) Received: from rac2.wam.umd.edu (IDENT:root@rac2.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.142]) by po3.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA01472; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 19:35:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rac2.wam.umd.edu (IDENT:sendmail@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rac2.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA18605; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 19:35:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (atrus@localhost) by rac2.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA18601; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 19:35:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: rac2.wam.umd.edu: atrus owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 19:35:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Nikolas 'Atrus' Coukouma" To: freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org, , , , , , Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 23:35:42 -0000 From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 4 15:27:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC48F37B407 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 15:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ithildin.daemonnews.org (ithildin.daemonnews.org [204.152.186.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02F5F43FA3 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 15:27:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from question@daemonnews.org) Received: by ithildin.daemonnews.org (Postfix, from userid 3016) id 9C0B817BE5F; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 15:26:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 15:26:10 -0700 From: Linh Pham To: advocacy@freebsd.org, advocacy@openbsd.org, netbsd-advocacy@netbsd.org Message-ID: <20030604222609.GA38750@ithildin.daemonnews.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA" Content-Disposition: inline Organization: Daemon News Mail-Copies-To: poster X-PGP-Key: http://olosecsrc.org/~question/dn-pubkey.asc" User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Subject: June 2003 Issue of the Daemon News Ezine published X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 22:27:08 -0000 --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The June 2003 issue of the Daemon News Ezine has been published and is available at: http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200306/ This month's issue contains articles covering *BSD, including: - John Aycock writes on his experience of setting up OpenBSD in a classroom lab environment. - Setting up Postfix to use SASL authentication over TLS to help combat spam. - An introductory look at backing up key system files - A book review for "FreeBSD: The Complete Reference" by Roderick Smith - A look back on BSD events, releases and announcements for May 2003 - The DN AnswerCrew answers several reader submitted questions, including how to automate renaming of files with mmv and how to build custom kernels for FreeBSD, NetBSD and OpenBSD. - Greg Lehey talks about the recent SCO lawsuits and allegations against IBM and Linux, and how it relates to BSD Daemon News and the Daemon News Ezine are both supported by volunteer efforts and we welcome articles submissions and any volunteer help with the Ezine. If you would like help out or submit articles, feel free to contact us at editors@daemonnews.org. --=20 Linh Pham question@daemonnews.org Apprentice Managing Editor and Writer http://www.daemonnews.org Daemon News BSD's gone global --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+3nIB3xd+C3kMt9gRAr36AKCCBlUUfyymRALkkEuEGDDl3ecE6QCeJW/M qhkf81q7MMFUon8q5HLXSTI= =lT/d -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA-- From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 21:03:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D487E37B401; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 21:03:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.freebsdmall.com (ns1.freebsdmall.com [65.60.36.76]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C9F543FA3; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 21:03:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rab@ns1.freebsdmall.com) Received: from mall.freebsdmall.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.freebsdmall.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA8361CEA9; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 21:05:05 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 21:05:05 -0700 From: Robert Bruce Message-Id: <20030606040505.EA8361CEA9@mail.freebsdmall.com> cc: rab@freebsdmall.com Subject: FreeBSD.org booth at Usenix X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 04:03:16 -0000 There will be a FreeBSD.org booth at Usenix, and we need volunteers to help staff it. If you are going to Usenix in San Antonio next week, and you can spare some time between sessions to help answer questions about FreeBSD, then please come to the booth and help out. If you have any FreeBSD flyers, brochures, posters, etc., please bring them. The main person organizing the booth is Chern Lee, chern@freebsd.org -bob From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 11:11:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C09737B401 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 11:11:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp809.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp809.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B46DE43F93 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 11:11:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@tranquilwaters.us) Received: from adsl-64-164-82-156.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net (HELO goliath.tranquilwaters.us) (khaybrak@sbcglobal.net@64.164.82.156 with login) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Jun 2003 18:11:57 -0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20030606110949.02eab658@pop.sbcglobal.yahoo.com> X-Sender: khaybrak@sbcglobal.net@pop.sbcglobal.yahoo.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 11:11:53 -0700 To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org From: John Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: SCO Lawsuit X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 18:11:58 -0000 Any concerns to BSD / FreeBSD about SCO's suit against IBM / Linux? Any benefits? Just curious. I have never been a fan of SCO as it is and the article suggests the company may be benefiting from Microsoft's offer to pay license fees to SCO for UNIX code. End run by Microsoft? From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 11:14:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE5E37B401 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 11:14:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 1upmc-msximc2.isdip.upmc.edu (msx.upmc.edu [128.147.18.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A173043F93 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 11:14:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from personrp@ccbh.com) Received: by 1upmc-msximc2.isdip.upmc.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 14:14:18 -0400 Message-ID: <46AEB8C1B628D511969200508B6FE42A088D9474@1upmc-msx6.isdip.upmc.edu> From: "Person, Roderick" To: 'John' , freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 14:14:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: RE: SCO Lawsuit X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 18:14:34 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: John [mailto:john@tranquilwaters.us] > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 2:12 PM > To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org > Subject: SCO Lawsuit > > > Any concerns to BSD / FreeBSD about SCO's suit against IBM / > Linux? Any benefits? Just curious. I have never been a fan > of SCO as it is and the article suggests the company may be > benefiting from Microsoft's offer to pay license fees to SCO > for UNIX code. End run by Microsoft? There is a Article on Daemon News by Greg Lehey about this. I've not read it yet. But I too, think this is some kind of Microsoft end run. Rod Person Programmer Http://www.ccbh.com "We can't expect the American People to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism." 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Get It Now At Doteasy.com http://www.doteasy.com/et/ From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 22:11:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5181C37B401 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 22:11:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net (heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C64F343FA3 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 22:11:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from user-2ivfnu9.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.223.201] helo=mindspring.com) by heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19OVzD-0000L9-00; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 22:11:28 -0700 Message-ID: <3EE173BD.44E70B3E@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 22:10:21 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John References: <5.2.1.1.2.20030606110949.02eab658@pop.sbcglobal.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: b1a02af9316fbb217a47c185c03b154d40683398e744b8a48ac94b45c98fb392040064700644ccf8350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCO Lawsuit X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 05:11:29 -0000 John wrote: > Any concerns to BSD / FreeBSD about SCO's suit against IBM / Linux? No. > Any benefits? Accidental benefits, such as people choosing to use FreeBSD in environments (especially embedded systems), rather than using Linux. Nothing the FreeBSD community is going out of its way to capitolize on. > Just curious. I have never been a fan of SCO as it is and > the article suggests the company may be benefiting from > Microsoft's offer to pay license fees to SCO for UNIX code. Only if you call $20M and their first profitable quarter in 7 years a benefit... > End run by Microsoft? Most likely not. See also: http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200306/dadvocate.html -- Terry