From owner-freebsd-binup@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 22 02:26:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-binup@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34BE337B401 for ; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 02:26:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from protov.plain.co.nz (protov.plain.co.nz [202.36.174.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3DAF43FA3 for ; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 02:25:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zombie@i4free.co.nz) Received: from i4free.co.nz (ppp65167.cyberxpress.co.nz [202.49.65.167]) by protov.plain.co.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 414E93CB39; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 21:25:54 +1200 (NZST) Message-ID: <3EF575F1.6090108@i4free.co.nz> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 21:25:05 +1200 From: Andrew Turner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030612 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway References: <3EF512DF.10602@i4free.co.nz> <20030622031848.GC89485@rot13.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20030622031848.GC89485@rot13.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-binup@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Protocol & package independent draft X-BeenThere: freebsd-binup@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Design and development of the binary update system List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 09:26:01 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 02:22:23PM +1200, Andrew Turner wrote: > >>I have been writing a design for binup to become protocol an package >>independent. This document dosn't specify how to build the packages or >>how to install the packages. >> >>This is the first draft and I would like feedback. >> >>With this draft the client is responsible to select the packages on the >>server to fetch then install them on it's own. > > > IMO, what we need is working code, not more drafts that get > bikeshedded around for a bit but then never get implemented. > > Kris I've started writing some code in c to download the packages using libfetch. If there are any changes to the draft I will fix them in the code when I release it. Andrew From owner-freebsd-binup@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 22 02:33:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-binup@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE24737B401 for ; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 02:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-169-104-32.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.169.104.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2C5743F3F for ; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 02:33:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from rot13.obsecurity.org (rot13.obsecurity.org [10.0.0.5]) by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 866B066BE5; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 02:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rot13.obsecurity.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3C6B3857; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 02:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 02:33:19 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Andrew Turner Message-ID: <20030622093319.GA96195@rot13.obsecurity.org> References: <3EF512DF.10602@i4free.co.nz> <20030622031848.GC89485@rot13.obsecurity.org> <3EF575F1.6090108@i4free.co.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3EF575F1.6090108@i4free.co.nz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-binup@freebsd.org cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Protocol & package independent draft X-BeenThere: freebsd-binup@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Design and development of the binary update system List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 09:33:23 -0000 --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 09:25:05PM +1200, Andrew Turner wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: > >On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 02:22:23PM +1200, Andrew Turner wrote: > > > >>I have been writing a design for binup to become protocol an package=20 > >>independent. This document dosn't specify how to build the packages or= =20 > >>how to install the packages. > >> > >>This is the first draft and I would like feedback. > >> > >>With this draft the client is responsible to select the packages on the= =20 > >>server to fetch then install them on it's own. > > > > > >IMO, what we need is working code, not more drafts that get > >bikeshedded around for a bit but then never get implemented. > > > >Kris >=20 > I've started writing some code in c to download the packages using > libfetch. If there are any changes to the draft I will fix them in the > code when I release it. Great, good luck with the project! Kris --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+9XfeWry0BWjoQKURAiaPAKDmj39eXZf1RmlIMSxHCbOc6+y5jACgsU9X hU8KOv2irezI6kgYAt3gDqM= =jaWH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL-- From owner-freebsd-binup@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 22 04:32:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-binup@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4EA937B416 for ; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 04:31:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (mta06-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEFDD43FA3 for ; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 04:31:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from colin.percival@wadham.ox.ac.uk) Received: from piii600.wadham.ox.ac.uk ([81.103.196.4]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.comESMTP <20030622113143.TXLI16215.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@piii600.wadham.ox.ac.uk>; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 12:31:43 +0100 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.1.20030622122357.02c13c98@popserver.sfu.ca> X-Sender: cperciva@popserver.sfu.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 12:31:19 +0100 To: Andrew Turner , freebsd-binup@freebsd.org From: Colin Percival In-Reply-To: <3EF512DF.10602@i4free.co.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Re: Protocol & package independent draft X-BeenThere: freebsd-binup@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Design and development of the binary update system List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 11:32:11 -0000 At 14:22 22/06/2003 +1200, Andrew Turner wrote: >4a. Download all the packages from the configuration file. >4b. Download all the packages in the local installed package list. You might want to reconsider this; or rather, do the above in some "intelligent" manner which takes advantage of any files already installed. With FreeBSD Update, updating 4.7-RELEASE to the latest RELENG_4_7 touches 84 files totalling 30MB out of a >120MB world, and by using binary patches (specifically, misc/bsdiff) I've got that down to 543876 bytes. (This isn't in the published version of FreeBSD Update yet; expect it in a couple days.) Colin Percival