From owner-freebsd-cluster Mon Feb 3 9:40:44 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3487B37B401 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 09:40:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from digitalfreaks.org (digitalfreaks.org [216.151.95.156]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6DE2F43F3F for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 09:40:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ziccardi@digitalfreaks.org) Received: (qmail 21302 invoked by uid 1000); 3 Feb 2003 17:40:36 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 17:40:36 -0000 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 12:40:36 -0500 (EST) From: Chad Ziccardi To: Gabriel Ambuehl Cc: "Rouzer, Charles A (Chuck)" , "" Subject: Re[2]: freebsd cluster target market In-Reply-To: <37722441765.20030112230029@buz.ch> Message-ID: <20030203123902.D20589@digitalfreaks.org> References: <000901c2b8ef$57e4eb70$0201000a@LAPTOP> <20030110132550.A18143@lava.net> <193699876562.20030112164424@buz.ch> <001701c2ba84$6f307010$0201000a@LAPTOP> <37722441765.20030112230029@buz.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG begin quote from Gabriel Ambuehl written 2003-01-12: > I actually once HAD vinum doing network RAID. It's an awful hack and > not of any practical use, but enough for proof of concept: > > Mount foreign filesystem over NFS. Use vn(4) and vnconfig to create a > FS backed "partition", use disklabel to assign the correct partition > type to it and you're set. It's just horrible unstable, slow and prone > to error. That sounds similiar to Solaris's CacheFS, backing NFS to local disk for faster access, and a little bit of stability (it can keep going with the NFS server down) -- Chad Ziccardi, Professional Slacker cz@digitalfreaks.org "Some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they go." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-cluster" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-cluster Mon Feb 3 9:53:55 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE6A637B401 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 09:53:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from iota.root-servers.ch (iota.root-servers.ch [193.41.193.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4D4D943F75 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 09:53:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch) Received: (qmail 75990 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 17:53:44 -0000 Received: from dclient80-218-105-144.hispeed.ch (HELO gaxp1800.root.li) (80.218.105.144) by 0 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 17:53:44 -0000 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 18:53:43 +0100 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62i) Educational Reply-To: gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch Organization: BUZ Internet Services X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <43287136484.20030203185343@buz.ch> To: Chad Ziccardi Cc: freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[3]: freebsd cluster target market In-Reply-To: <20030203123902.D20589@digitalfreaks.org> References: <000901c2b8ef$57e4eb70$0201000a@LAPTOP> <20030110132550.A18143@lava.net> <193699876562.20030112164424@buz.ch> <001701c2ba84$6f307010$0201000a@LAPTOP> <37722441765.20030112230029@buz.ch> <20030203123902.D20589@digitalfreaks.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello Chad, Monday, February 3, 2003, 6:40:36 PM, you wrote: > That sounds similiar to Solaris's CacheFS, backing NFS to local disk for > faster access, and a little bit of stability (it can keep going with the NFS > server down) No, what Solaris does is more like dumbed down Coda than network RAID... Best regards, Gabriel -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.0.2i iQEVAwUBPj6eocZa2WpymlDxAQEWlQgAki6mrF+sUM8cFAC6ZbVCBnqY96CqPoLV kfhykeiqMHSYvMgAYaKHoj9b4lOBB5Rn/yoPpJH3Ce4+6+0+4ar0XAkfQJ0VLVXf RHGtttW98XTDEA65E71Zj+kigfslH0CTkQjMc8qIe0bVZ6HRNmXeKuMBl+y+yYlQ YoRa0H5flOU7hSqDHm5ABWWL9md8kkvMQro43M6Cmps4rIChn7gA2seby5Pndl4g MCQCt0poy+j02skg0PZ9SW7/3avP0MN0rHUEYxmiJcB1xKVFPm/K7eEYvNNSen5G ZttRT/jTp01fGGxcFxcohRW+oH0ZOyhIkxEDi9znsmhZ1kbf7ftzLQ== =zXcu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-cluster" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-cluster Mon Feb 3 10: 2:58 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E51937B401 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:02:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from iota.root-servers.ch (iota.root-servers.ch [193.41.193.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CF26E43F85 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:02:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch) Received: (qmail 76451 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 18:02:50 -0000 Received: from dclient80-218-105-144.hispeed.ch (HELO gaxp1800.root.li) (80.218.105.144) by 0 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 18:02:50 -0000 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 19:04:08 +0100 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62i) Educational Reply-To: gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch Organization: BUZ Internet Services X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <158287761234.20030203190408@buz.ch> To: Chad Ziccardi Cc: freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[4]: freebsd cluster target market In-Reply-To: <20030203125708.X20589@digitalfreaks.org> References: <000901c2b8ef$57e4eb70$0201000a@LAPTOP> <20030110132550.A18143@lava.net> <193699876562.20030112164424@buz.ch> <001701c2ba84$6f307010$0201000a@LAPTOP> <37722441765.20030112230029@buz.ch> <20030203123902.D20589@digitalfreaks.org> <43287136484.20030203185343@buz.ch> <20030203125708.X20589@digitalfreaks.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello Chad, Monday, February 3, 2003, 6:59:15 PM, you wrote: >> No, what Solaris does is more like dumbed down Coda than network >> RAID... > True. I should read slower then reply ;> Speaking of, has anyone ever gotten Coda and it's associated replication stuff to work under STABLE? Best regards, Gabriel -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.0.2i iQEVAwUBPj6hEMZa2WpymlDxAQG/xwgAz516gtDav0Yls4RPF35rdcSSkjMd8u6q +yVFRHPBrrfXHxl/74p3dmTDzM0A6ul2avMMw58KtpcyovPJkw608b0oRBmKerUj CN199XNcw1hnw24bdlq3lhZ0TDw54QAwcjebxFIG2ijO656Eho9XwLJiuFd4GFhL Gq/dNuocgFKYOL9ao2FlKn5fQYu25WV1O19GDLnZmGAIqSbMl/MJMFV58r4Wgayp VeFiXozvXRM0X9y7cN629GpINC/G/0Bcsk6ZfwzAbwRb45WXqU//9qcuE6vr8yhe UjTwjYR7IzlqvXN52U1IeGbKYtG5NmIpbCItTvDDSdMwD4VODzZ9gA== =1lyx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-cluster" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-cluster Mon Feb 3 10:31:54 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D4AE37B401 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:31:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from malasada.lava.net (malasada.lava.net [64.65.64.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D36BF43F9B for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:31:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cliftonr@lava.net) Received: by malasada.lava.net (Postfix, from userid 102) id 1652017A04C; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 08:31:47 -1000 (HST) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 08:31:46 -1000 From: Clifton Royston To: Chad Ziccardi Cc: Gabriel Ambuehl , "Rouzer, Charles A (Chuck)" , freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd cluster target market Message-ID: <20030203083146.A26322@lava.net> Mail-Followup-To: Chad Ziccardi , Gabriel Ambuehl , "Rouzer, Charles A (Chuck)" , freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG References: <000901c2b8ef$57e4eb70$0201000a@LAPTOP> <20030110132550.A18143@lava.net> <193699876562.20030112164424@buz.ch> <001701c2ba84$6f307010$0201000a@LAPTOP> <37722441765.20030112230029@buz.ch> <20030203123902.D20589@digitalfreaks.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20030203123902.D20589@digitalfreaks.org>; from ziccardi@digitalfreaks.org on Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 12:40:36PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 12:40:36PM -0500, Chad Ziccardi wrote: > begin quote from Gabriel Ambuehl written 2003-01-12: > > > I actually once HAD vinum doing network RAID. It's an awful hack and > > not of any practical use, but enough for proof of concept: > > > > Mount foreign filesystem over NFS. Use vn(4) and vnconfig to create a > > FS backed "partition", use disklabel to assign the correct partition > > type to it and you're set. It's just horrible unstable, slow and prone > > to error. Great (ly twisted) minds think alike, I guess. We experimented with this some here as a "skunkworks" (unofficial) project using various combinations of Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and BSD/OS. The problem is that no combination we tried seemed to have a solid and stable enough implementation of NFS and of vinum or "loopback FS" + raidframe, etc. etc. to get it working reliably. Let alone performing well. On the freebsd-current list, PHK is sounding pretty enthusiastic about getting NBD implemented as an available block driver under GEOM. That would be the "right place" to make it work with pretty much everything disk-related in FreeBSD, I think. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- LavaNet Systems Architect -- cliftonr@lava.net "If you ride fast enough, the Specialist can't catch you." "What's the Specialist?" Samantha says. "The Specialist wears a hat," says the babysitter. "The hat makes noises." She doesn't say anything else. Kelly Link, _The Specialist's Hat_ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-cluster" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-cluster Mon Feb 3 10:41:29 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B9C437B401 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:41:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from iota.root-servers.ch (iota.root-servers.ch [193.41.193.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0844343F43 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:41:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch) Received: (qmail 78304 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 18:41:23 -0000 Received: from dclient80-218-105-144.hispeed.ch (HELO gaxp1800.root.li) (80.218.105.144) by 0 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 18:41:22 -0000 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 19:40:52 +0100 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62i) Educational Reply-To: gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch Organization: BUZ Internet Services X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <150289965406.20030203194052@buz.ch> To: Clifton Royston Cc: freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[2]: freebsd cluster target market In-Reply-To: <20030203083146.A26322@lava.net> References: <000901c2b8ef$57e4eb70$0201000a@LAPTOP> <20030110132550.A18143@lava.net> <193699876562.20030112164424@buz.ch> <001701c2ba84$6f307010$0201000a@LAPTOP> <37722441765.20030112230029@buz.ch> <20030203123902.D20589@digitalfreaks.org> <20030203083146.A26322@lava.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello Clifton, Monday, February 3, 2003, 7:31:46 PM, you wrote: > On the freebsd-current list, PHK is sounding pretty enthusiastic > about getting NBD implemented as an available block driver under GEOM. > That would be the "right place" to make it work with pretty much > everything disk-related in FreeBSD, I think. Do you happen to know the name of the thread? I think some encouragement about it would be in order. I'd definitely love this feature (aside Java support, really the only advantage Linux has over BSD these days if you ask me). Best regards, Gabriel -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.0.2i iQEVAwUBPj6pqMZa2WpymlDxAQF0DggAwt+cORhFuBe9dFYiL9Dji1mRUDEOpN27 STXEgeUnZ2aOzq54OassIoWpQt+IRawhl4X8Ei7Fn6GszQogmlaYklc4dpyWDQY3 rHUgK3p7G6yMVS4OUQ+1p4RhkLbCN9F01fLvO4fs0enr8aloUC/oz1AweBgpZ6S/ J1wqh68tV5jEYx9Q342heu2xzYzoQi/3y9rR4DH1D9AxKT8RHJpbneMwDwwt0fpo /+tc++dugjOlY95moFgu1bPHerX7DTIZ8OegWXv77YBbJEBcDoTXPNhGh3fVhc8R /Ib3tFM+VQt82g63OZ5LsQINP9Wj7MxQOwTBSZN8+AWDMiOAwUGkIg== =2jmB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-cluster" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-cluster Mon Feb 3 15:39:39 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CDA437B50C for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 15:39:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from vps.vitalit.com (vps.vitalit.com [64.105.194.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4139C43FA3 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 15:39:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from car@vitalit.com) Received: from zappa (gso167-138-145.triad.rr.com [24.167.138.145]) by vps.vitalit.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with SMTP id h13NdLAC065501 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 18:39:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from car@vitalit.com) Message-ID: <000a01c2cbdd$7fd3c0b0$0301000a@zappa> From: "Chuck Rouzer" To: References: <000901c2b8ef$57e4eb70$0201000a@LAPTOP> <20030110132550.A18143@lava.net> <193699876562.20030112164424@buz.ch> <001701c2ba84$6f307010$0201000a@LAPTOP> <37722441765.20030112230029@buz.ch> <20030203123902.D20589@digitalfreaks.org> <20030203083146.A26322@lava.net> <150289965406.20030203194052@buz.ch> Subject: Re: freebsd cluster target market Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 18:39:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > On the freebsd-current list, PHK is sounding pretty enthusiastic > > about getting NBD implemented as an available block driver under > GEOM. > > That would be the "right place" to make it work with pretty much > > everything disk-related in FreeBSD, I think. I would prefer iSCSI over NBD but still interested. Will check it out. > Do you happen to know the name of the thread? I think some > encouragement about it would be in order. I'd definitely love this > feature (aside Java support, really the only advantage Linux has over > BSD these days if you ask me). The Java port and Linux kernel module seem to work great. Chuck To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-cluster" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-cluster Mon Feb 3 15:47:36 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D9F37B401 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 15:47:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from iota.root-servers.ch (iota.root-servers.ch [193.41.193.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B34243F85 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 15:47:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch) Received: (qmail 90292 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 23:47:26 -0000 Received: from dclient80-218-105-144.hispeed.ch (HELO gaxp1800.root.li) (80.218.105.144) by 0 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 23:47:26 -0000 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 00:48:42 +0100 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62i) Educational Reply-To: gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch Organization: BUZ Internet Services X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <182308434968.20030204004842@buz.ch> To: "Chuck Rouzer" Cc: freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[2]: freebsd cluster target market In-Reply-To: <000a01c2cbdd$7fd3c0b0$0301000a@zappa> References: <000901c2b8ef$57e4eb70$0201000a@LAPTOP> <20030110132550.A18143@lava.net> <193699876562.20030112164424@buz.ch> <001701c2ba84$6f307010$0201000a@LAPTOP> <37722441765.20030112230029@buz.ch> <20030203123902.D20589@digitalfreaks.org> <20030203083146.A26322@lava.net> <150289965406.20030203194052@buz.ch> <000a01c2cbdd$7fd3c0b0$0301000a@zappa> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello Chuck, Tuesday, February 4, 2003, 12:39:24 AM, you wrote: > I would prefer iSCSI over NBD but still interested. Will check it out. Well iSCSI sure would be nice (it'd mean that you could use it with basically every OS that supports it) but still, FreeBSD nbd (preferably compatible to the Linux one but not really needed in my case) would be a big step in the right direction... >> Do you happen to know the name of the thread? I think some >> encouragement about it would be in order. I'd definitely love this >> feature (aside Java support, really the only advantage Linux has over >> BSD these days if you ask me). > The Java port and Linux kernel module seem to work great. Last time I tried (late december) jdk13 port wouldn't build for some reason. It's PITA that it needs linux emulation in order to compile anyway. Is there any chance that Sun will allow FreeBSD to supply a native binary in the forseeable future? Best regards, Gabriel -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.0.2i iQEVAwUBPj7xzcZa2WpymlDxAQE/yggAhr2y1i3atMd+uOIlMgxj1rqcV7eTzDxv dpaYQw8yiWNnMQb550oqKN2NT3FC9W4kO7pVep2cV9sC1oTuhtlW6DFI/5XuJSop nCWx74kewAo+eaOOr+X18Hnz0AKINX8xm99JbAEPiPpLld22B7WL+z2fQmN5nS0y A8xsrMARM16BqHZiv3JaS3QLyhGGSEsaiJHRSC6H1fSZFwQvrgwGg0cdEB6yDQWF EBMTMleciSNjvFKRu8pY0Cc6hh2xi+MOCNPM95/4RvSzp+u2mZxsRf4rtFTka6BA Lq2y5AOFPWYKgYyEXaNBSVtgU0IGPWXWRhz967RexRpfyZpX1JWETA== =p1NX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-cluster" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-cluster Mon Feb 3 19:15:11 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2797137B401 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 19:15:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from vps.vitalit.com (vps.vitalit.com [64.105.194.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09EF243FA3 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 19:15:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from car@vitalit.com) Received: from zappa (gso167-138-145.triad.rr.com [24.167.138.145]) by vps.vitalit.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with SMTP id h143F4AC073804 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 22:15:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from car@vitalit.com) Message-ID: <000901c2cbfb$a06af870$0301000a@zappa> From: "Chuck Rouzer" To: References: <000901c2b8ef$57e4eb70$0201000a@LAPTOP> <20030110132550.A18143@lava.net> <193699876562.20030112164424@buz.ch> <001701c2ba84$6f307010$0201000a@LAPTOP> <37722441765.20030112230029@buz.ch> <20030203123902.D20589@digitalfreaks.org> <20030203083146.A26322@lava.net> <150289965406.20030203194052@buz.ch> <000a01c2cbdd$7fd3c0b0$0301000a@zappa> <182308434968.20030204004842@buz.ch> Subject: Re: freebsd cluster target market Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 22:15:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Last time I tried (late december) jdk13 port wouldn't build for some > reason. It's PITA that it needs linux emulation in order to compile > anyway. Is there any chance that Sun will allow FreeBSD to supply a > native binary in the forseeable future? Hmm... I tried it a month ago or so and the latest (v1.4?) worked perfectly. Had Linux support and java command line executable running in about 10 minutes. Chuck P.S. please don't cc me To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-cluster" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-cluster Mon Feb 3 21: 5:16 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 206FB37B401 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 21:05:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mgr3.xmission.com (mgr3.xmission.com [198.60.22.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8F943F75 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 21:05:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: from mail by mgr3.xmission.com with spam-scanned (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18fvGj-0006iq-03; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 22:05:13 -0700 Received: from [207.135.128.145] (helo=misty.eyesbeyond.com) by mgr3.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18fvGW-0006Sh-03; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 22:05:08 -0700 Received: (from glewis@localhost) by misty.eyesbeyond.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h1453qT14869; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:33:52 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) X-Authentication-Warning: misty.eyesbeyond.com: glewis set sender to glewis@eyesbeyond.com using -f Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:33:42 +1030 From: Greg Lewis To: Gabriel Ambuehl Cc: freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd cluster target market Message-ID: <20030204153342.B14733@misty.eyesbeyond.com> References: <000901c2b8ef$57e4eb70$0201000a@LAPTOP> <20030110132550.A18143@lava.net> <193699876562.20030112164424@buz.ch> <001701c2ba84$6f307010$0201000a@LAPTOP> <37722441765.20030112230029@buz.ch> <20030203123902.D20589@digitalfreaks.org> <20030203083146.A26322@lava.net> <150289965406.20030203194052@buz.ch> <000a01c2cbdd$7fd3c0b0$0301000a@zappa> <182308434968.20030204004842@buz.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <182308434968.20030204004842@buz.ch>; from gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch on Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 12:48:42AM +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.5 required=8.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE,SPAM_PHRASE_02_03,USER_AGENT, USER_AGENT_MUTT,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 12:48:42AM +0100, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: > Last time I tried (late december) jdk13 port wouldn't build for some > reason. It's PITA that it needs linux emulation in order to compile > anyway. Is there any chance that Sun will allow FreeBSD to supply a > native binary in the forseeable future? The jdk13 port should build fine, what was your particular problem? As for your question, the answer is yes. -- Greg Lewis Email : glewis@eyesbeyond.com Eyes Beyond Web : http://www.eyesbeyond.com Information Technology FreeBSD : glewis@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-cluster" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-cluster Thu Feb 6 9:17:39 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A237A37B401 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:17:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [64.49.215.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E2F943FE0 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:17:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [64.49.215.141]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB3A8B4B97 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:17:29 -0400 (AST) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:17:29 -0400 (AST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org Subject: pvfs ... anyone working on this? Message-ID: <20030206131646.Y63349@hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ... or similar? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-cluster" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-cluster Thu Feb 6 12:20:54 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F0F37B401 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 12:20:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from malasada.lava.net (malasada.lava.net [64.65.64.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7452143FBD for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 12:20:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cliftonr@lava.net) Received: by malasada.lava.net (Postfix, from userid 102) id 87BE617A28E; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:08:23 -1000 (HST) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:08:22 -1000 From: Clifton Royston To: Gabriel Ambuehl Cc: freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd cluster target market Message-ID: <20030206090822.A23389@lava.net> Mail-Followup-To: Gabriel Ambuehl , freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG References: <000901c2b8ef$57e4eb70$0201000a@LAPTOP> <20030110132550.A18143@lava.net> <193699876562.20030112164424@buz.ch> <001701c2ba84$6f307010$0201000a@LAPTOP> <37722441765.20030112230029@buz.ch> <20030203123902.D20589@digitalfreaks.org> <20030203083146.A26322@lava.net> <150289965406.20030203194052@buz.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <150289965406.20030203194052@buz.ch>; from gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch on Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 07:40:52PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 07:40:52PM +0100, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hello Clifton, > > Monday, February 3, 2003, 7:31:46 PM, you wrote: > > On the freebsd-current list, PHK is sounding pretty enthusiastic > > about getting NBD implemented as an available block driver under > GEOM. > > That would be the "right place" to make it work with pretty much > > everything disk-related in FreeBSD, I think. > > Do you happen to know the name of the thread? I think some > encouragement about it would be in order. I'd definitely love this > feature (aside Java support, really the only advantage Linux has over > BSD these days if you ask me). I was having trouble finding the thread again, but finally stumbled across it. It wasn't the -current list, it was the freebsd-hackers list, and the subject of the thread was (surprise) "Network block device". -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- LavaNet Systems Architect -- cliftonr@lava.net "If you ride fast enough, the Specialist can't catch you." "What's the Specialist?" Samantha says. "The Specialist wears a hat," says the babysitter. "The hat makes noises." She doesn't say anything else. Kelly Link, _The Specialist's Hat_ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-cluster" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-cluster Thu Feb 6 13:43:20 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FA6B37B407 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:43:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from cultdeadsheep.org (charon.cultdeadsheep.org [80.65.226.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77BA843F93 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:43:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheepkiller@cultdeadsheep.org) Received: (qmail 80202 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2003 21:43:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lucifer.cultdeadsheep.org) (192.168.0.2) by goofy.cultdeadsheep.org with SMTP; 6 Feb 2003 21:43:14 -0000 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 22:43:17 +0100 From: Clement Laforet To: "Marc G. Fournier" Cc: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pvfs ... anyone working on this? Message-Id: <20030206224317.1c537cd8.sheepkiller@cultdeadsheep.org> In-Reply-To: <20030206131646.Y63349@hub.org> References: <20030206131646.Y63349@hub.org> Organization: tH3 cUlt 0f tH3 d3@d sH33p X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.9 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) X-Face: ._cVVRDn#-2((lnfi^P7CoD4htI$4+#G/G)!w|,}H5yK~%(3-C.JlEYbOjJGFwJkt*7N^%z jYeu[;}]}F"3}l5R'l"X0HbvT^D\Q&%deCo)MayY`);TO Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:17:29 -0400 (AST) "Marc G. Fournier" wrote: > > ... or similar? As far as I know, there isn't any project related to distributed/parallel file system, but it would be great ;) Have a look at : http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=165292+0+archive/2003/freebsd-hackers/20030202.freebsd-hackers for workaround... regards, clem To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-cluster" in the body of the message