From owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 10:00:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8628B37B401 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 10:00:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE8F43FB1 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 10:00:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fenner+portsurvey@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (fenner@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h47H0rUp084317 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 10:00:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fenner+portsurvey@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from fenner@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h47H0r3X084316; Wed, 7 May 2003 10:00:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 10:00:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200305071700.h47H0r3X084316@freefall.freebsd.org> From: fenner@freebsd.org (Bill "distfiles" Fenner) To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD ports: 1 unfetchable distfiles: emulators/ski X-BeenThere: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ports@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the IA-64 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 17:00:56 -0000 Dear freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org, You are listed as the FreeBSD port maintainer for 1 port whose distfiles [or main web pages] are not fetchable from their MASTER_SITES. Could you please visit http://people.freebsd.org/~fenner/portsurvey/freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org.html and correct the problems listed there? The individual port with a problem is emulators/ski. Note that the main port web page, as listed in the WWW: line of the pkg-descr, is checked just as though it was a port distfile. This is an unfortunate side effect of the architecture of the distfile survey reporting tool, but if you see a distfile being reported as not fetchable that's not actually a distfile, see if it's from the pkg-descr. If you have already corrected the problems and submitted a PR, please accept my thanks and apologies for the delay in getting the fixes into the tree. This reminder is created automatically and does not (yet) have a way to know if a PR fixing the problem has been submitted. Please do *NOT* send your response to me directly; I do not always have time to commit your fix; please instead submit a PR via 'send-pr' so it doesn't get lost. Problems are usually of two types: 1. The software package has been upgraded and the version in the port has been removed. The best solution to this problem is to upgrade the port to the most current version of the software package. If you are a FreeBSD committer, then you can just upgrade the port directly. If not, you should create the updated port on your own machine, test it (and maybe even run "portlint" on it), and then use "send-pr" to submit a "diff -uNr old-port updated-port". If you added or deleted any files, please make an explicit note of it. 2. The mirror site being used no longer contains the software package in question, or no longer exists. Solutions include: a) If there are other mirror sites, just remove the bad site from the list. (Make sure that what appears to be a bad site isn't actually a problem of type 1, upgrade) b) If the README or other support files in the software documentation mention where to get the software package, use one of those sites. c) Use ftpsearch (http://ftpsearch.ntnu.no/ftpsearch) or other search engines to find another place to get the original DISTFILES. Make sure that you don't pick a FreeBSD distfiles mirror -- if you can't find any other places where the file exists, it can be a LOCAL_PORT or you can simply comment out the MASTER_SITES= line, with a comment explaining why. Once you have a solution, use "send-pr" to submit a "diff -u" of the Makefile. Note that this isn't an urgent issue, as people who try to build the port now will just fall back to the FreeBSD distfiles mirror. Please just put it on your list to do and get to it when you have time. These messages will continue to arrive twice a month until the fix is committed, as a reminder. Thanks, Bill "distfiles" Fenner. From owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 10:55:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEFF337B401; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:55:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h132-197-179-27.gte.com (h132-197-179-27.gte.com [132.197.179.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DDD843FBF; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:55:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ak03@gte.com) Received: from kanpc.gte.com (ak03@localhost [127.0.0.1]) h48HtC3D002763; Thu, 8 May 2003 13:55:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ak03@kanpc.gte.com) Received: (from ak03@localhost) by kanpc.gte.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h48HtCsP002762; Thu, 8 May 2003 13:55:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 13:55:12 -0400 From: Alexander Kabaev To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org, freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org, freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org, freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030508175512.GA2542@kanpc.gte.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: RTLD patch for testing X-BeenThere: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the IA-64 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 17:55:16 -0000 Hi, this is a call for testers. I am looking for people willing to test the patch at http://http://people.freebsd.org/~kan/rtld1.diff on non-i386 architectures. The patch unifies legacy locking code into a single platform independent implementation using machine/atomic.h macros. This is done in preparation for a new locking interface in rtld and in order to simplify the future maintenance. I believe disasters are highly unlikely, but make sure you have an old copy of your /usr/libexec/rtld-elf.so.1 available nonetheless. Large multithreaded applications like mozilla of KDE are of special interest. Please let me know of any new failures you didn;t see before the patch. Thanks in advance, -- Alexander Kabaev From owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 17:02:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FAFD37B404 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 17:02:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net (sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net [65.242.152.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1705143F3F for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 17:02:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jpb@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net) Received: from sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net (localhost.v6.thrupoint.net [127.0.0.1]) by sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83C984CF9 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 20:02:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jpb@localhost)h4A025Il008280 for freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org; Fri, 9 May 2003 20:02:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 20:02:05 -0400 From: Jim Brown To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030510000205.GC7976@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Request for Content: FreeBSD/ia64 5.1-RELEASE Hardware Notes X-BeenThere: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the IA-64 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 00:02:07 -0000 Hi, Following up on the RE Team bi-daily 5.1 TODO List, I've volunteered to assemble, edit and mark up the ia64 hardware section of the release notes for 5.1-RELEASE. As I don't have any ia64 hardware myself, I can't contribute anything without your help! If you send me any hardware releated items on the list below, I'll mark it up and post it for review at: http://sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net/ia64/article.html It would help to prepend [ia64] to the subject line but don't sweat about remembering it. Best Regards, jpb === 1 Introduction 2 Supported Processors and Motherboards 3 Supported Devices 3.1 Disk Controllers 3.2 Ethernet Interfaces 3.3 FDDI Interfaces 3.4 ATM Interfaces 3.5 Wireless Network Interfaces 3.6 Miscellaneous Networks 3.7 ISDN Interfaces 3.8 Serial Interfaces 3.9 Audio Devices 3.10 Camera and Video Capture Devices 3.11 USB Devices 3.12 IEEE 1394 (Firewire) Devices 3.13 Bluetooth Devices 3.14 Cryptographic Accelerators 3.15 Miscellaneous From owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 19:01:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8782D37B401 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 19:01:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.xcllnt.net (209-128-86-226.bayarea.net [209.128.86.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E18243FDD for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 19:01:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) Received: from athlon.pn.xcllnt.net (athlon.pn.xcllnt.net [192.168.4.3]) by ns1.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4A21lwk025629; Fri, 9 May 2003 19:01:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@piii.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: from athlon.pn.xcllnt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by athlon.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4A21khE002445; Fri, 9 May 2003 19:01:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: (from marcel@localhost) by athlon.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h4A21b85002444; Fri, 9 May 2003 19:01:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 19:01:37 -0700 From: Marcel Moolenaar To: Jim Brown Message-ID: <20030510020137.GA2188@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> References: <20030510000205.GC7976@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030510000205.GC7976@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i cc: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Request for Content: FreeBSD/ia64 5.1-RELEASE Hardware Notes X-BeenThere: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the IA-64 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 02:01:48 -0000 On Fri, May 09, 2003 at 08:02:05PM -0400, Jim Brown wrote: > > 1 Introduction It's probably a nice gesture to link to the platform home pages. > 2 Supported Processors and Motherboards Processors: Itanium & Itanium 2 Motherboards: It's probably a good idea to focus on chipset for now: chipsets: HP zx1 (only on development branch) Intel 460GX Intel E8870 > 3 Supported Devices > 3.1 Disk Controllers ATA: Except for the PC chipset embedded ATA controllers, most should work OOTB. SCSI: LSILogic 1030 Ultra4 is known to work [mpt(4)] > 3.8 Serial Interfaces Diva Serial [GSP] Multiport UART (development branch only [puc(4)] > 3.11 USB Devices UHCI and OHCI are supported. The UHCI on the "BigSur" seems to have a weird hub attached on both ports which generally makes USB unusable I don't think it's specific to ia64. This be it, roughly. Thanks, -- Marcel Moolenaar USPA: A-39004 marcel@xcllnt.net From owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 21:42:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC2B937B401 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 21:42:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net (sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net [65.242.152.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FB1243FBD for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 21:42:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jpb@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net) Received: from sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net (localhost.v6.thrupoint.net [127.0.0.1]) by sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8054CF9 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 00:42:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jpb@localhost)h4A4gXae008581 for freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 May 2003 00:42:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 00:42:32 -0400 From: Jim Brown To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030510044232.GA8378@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org References: <20030510000205.GC7976@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> <20030510020137.GA2188@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030510020137.GA2188@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Request for Content: FreeBSD/ia64 5.1-RELEASE Hardware Notes X-BeenThere: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the IA-64 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 04:42:35 -0000 * Marcel Moolenaar [2003-05-09 22:01]: > On Fri, May 09, 2003 at 08:02:05PM -0400, Jim Brown wrote: > > > > 1 Introduction > > It's probably a nice gesture to link to the platform home pages. > > > 2 Supported Processors and Motherboards > > Processors: > Itanium & Itanium 2 > > Motherboards: > It's probably a good idea to focus on chipset for now: > chipsets: > HP zx1 (only on development branch) > Intel 460GX > Intel E8870 > > > 3 Supported Devices > > 3.1 Disk Controllers > > ATA: Except for the PC chipset embedded ATA controllers, most should > work OOTB. > > SCSI: LSILogic 1030 Ultra4 is known to work [mpt(4)] > > > 3.8 Serial Interfaces > > Diva Serial [GSP] Multiport UART (development branch only [puc(4)] > > > 3.11 USB Devices > > UHCI and OHCI are supported. The UHCI on the "BigSur" seems to have > a weird hub attached on both ports which generally makes USB unusable > I don't think it's specific to ia64. > > This be it, roughly. Thanks, > > -- > Marcel Moolenaar USPA: A-39004 marcel@xcllnt.net > Done. http://sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net/ia64/article.html Additional wordsmithing soon. Your comments and suggestions are welcome. Best Regards, jpb === From owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 10 09:08:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 419B337B401 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 09:08:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9248C43F85 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 09:08:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org (12-240-204-110.client.attbi.com[12.240.204.110]) by attbi.com (rwcrmhc51) with ESMTP id <2003051016085805100bspl4e>; Sat, 10 May 2003 16:08:58 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4AG8vrh024871 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 09:08:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h4AG8vob024870 for freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 May 2003 09:08:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 09:08:57 -0700 From: "Bruce A. Mah" To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030510160857.GA24789@intruder.bmah.org> References: <20030510000205.GC7976@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> <20030510020137.GA2188@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030510044232.GA8378@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030510044232.GA8378@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Subject: Re: Request for Content: FreeBSD/ia64 5.1-RELEASE Hardware Notes X-BeenThere: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the IA-64 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 16:08:59 -0000 --pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If memory serves me right, Jim Brown wrote: > * Marcel Moolenaar [2003-05-09 22:01]: > > On Fri, May 09, 2003 at 08:02:05PM -0400, Jim Brown wrote: > > >=20 Comments for both Marcel and Jim...thanks for working on this! > > > 1 Introduction > >=20 > > It's probably a nice gesture to link to the platform home pages. I guess we could link directly to the ia64 platform page, rather than the top-level page for all platforms. > > > 2 Supported Processors and Motherboards > >=20 > > Processors: > > Itanium & Itanium 2 Other things users might want to know: SMP vs. UP? What types of consoles are supported (e.g. VGA, serial)? > > Motherboards:=20 > > It's probably a good idea to focus on chipset for now: > > chipsets: > > HP zx1 (only on development branch) "On development branch" means the P4 branch, right? If so, I'm am tempted to leave it out of the hardware notes for CVS HEAD, or at least maybe we should say "Perforce repository". Is this situation going to change as a result of your blanket commit approval? > > Intel 460GX > > Intel E8870 > >=20 > > > 3 Supported Devices > > > 3.1 Disk Controllers > >=20 > > ATA: Except for the PC chipset embedded ATA controllers, most should > > work OOTB. I wish I knew which ones those were, so we could turn them off. > > SCSI: LSILogic 1030 Ultra4 is known to work [mpt(4)] > >=20 > > > 3.8 Serial Interfaces > >=20 > > Diva Serial [GSP] Multiport UART (development branch only [puc(4)] > >=20 I may have turned sio(4) by mistake in the original version of this document. If so, we should turn it off now. > > > 3.11 USB Devices > >=20 > > UHCI and OHCI are supported. For UCHI and OHCI you can (probably) just turn on that part of the hardware notes for ia64. > > The UHCI on the "BigSur" seems to have > > a weird hub attached on both ports which generally makes USB unusable > > I don't think it's specific to ia64. What's "BigSur"? Can we maybe put this in the chipset/motherboard notes? > > This be it, roughly. Thanks, > >=20 > > --=20 > > Marcel Moolenaar USPA: A-39004 marcel@xcllnt.net > >=20 >=20 > Done. =20 >=20 > http://sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net/ia64/article.html >=20 > Additional wordsmithing soon. > Your comments and suggestions are welcome. =20 Thanks guys...this is looking good. Bruce. --pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+vSQZ2MoxcVugUsMRAvP9AKDmajueNWpEppEs5oyHfTUrOM1dZwCbB7Gf VqvgnaJX8DLGPi1rBMHalhA= =9ytB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/-- From owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 10 10:30:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA92037B401; Sat, 10 May 2003 10:30:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.xcllnt.net (209-128-86-226.bayarea.net [209.128.86.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8D443FAF; Sat, 10 May 2003 10:30:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) Received: from dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net [192.168.4.201]) by ns1.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4AHUIwk032646; Sat, 10 May 2003 10:30:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@piii.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: from dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4AHUIJU000704; Sat, 10 May 2003 10:30:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: (from marcel@localhost) by dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h4AHUIpS000703; Sat, 10 May 2003 10:30:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 10:30:18 -0700 From: Marcel Moolenaar To: "Bruce A. Mah" Message-ID: <20030510173018.GB563@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> References: <20030510000205.GC7976@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> <20030510020137.GA2188@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030510044232.GA8378@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> <20030510160857.GA24789@intruder.bmah.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030510160857.GA24789@intruder.bmah.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i cc: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Request for Content: FreeBSD/ia64 5.1-RELEASE Hardware Notes X-BeenThere: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the IA-64 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 17:30:20 -0000 On Sat, May 10, 2003 at 09:08:57AM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > > > 1 Introduction > > > > > > It's probably a nice gesture to link to the platform home pages. > > I guess we could link directly to the ia64 platform page, rather than > the top-level page for all platforms. Yes, of course. That was what I meant. > > > > 2 Supported Processors and Motherboards > > > > > > Processors: > > > Itanium & Itanium 2 > > Other things users might want to know: > > SMP vs. UP? Both :-) SMP is even more unstable than UP. I'm trying to squeeze some UP related fixes in to improve stability, but there are high priority jobs. > What types of consoles are supported (e.g. VGA, serial)? Yes. Both syscons and sio(4) work. > > > Motherboards: > > > It's probably a good idea to focus on chipset for now: > > > chipsets: > > > HP zx1 (only on development branch) > > "On development branch" means the P4 branch, right? If so, I'm am > tempted to leave it out of the hardware notes for CVS HEAD, or at > least maybe we should say "Perforce repository". Is this situation > going to change as a result of your blanket commit approval? Yes, development branch means perforce. We have told people about this because the HP boxes are in use a lot of the time. The situation is not going to change soon. Maybe 5.2, but more likely later. > > > > 3.1 Disk Controllers > > > > > > ATA: Except for the PC chipset embedded ATA controllers, most should > > > work OOTB. > > I wish I knew which ones those were, so we could turn them off. The best thing is to not sum up the device we know exist on i386, but instead mention that all ia64 compatible ATA controllers are expected to be supported. > > > > 3.8 Serial Interfaces > > > > > > Diva Serial [GSP] Multiport UART (development branch only [puc(4)] > > > > > I may have turned sio(4) by mistake in the original version of this > document. If so, we should turn it off now. sio(4) works on Intel legacy ia64 machines. sio(4) does not work on PA legacy ia64 machines. This is the crux of the problem on ia64. All devices on HP machines are memory mapped and there's *no* ISA device support other than the PCI dictated VGA legacy. As long as the box has an Intel legacy, most devices work (sio(4), syscons(4), pcm(4), atkbd(4) psm(4)...) Each of these fail on non-Intel legacy machines because the driver makes ISA specific assumptions that do not hold: sio: no support for memoru mapped I/O syscons: Expect BIOS, VGA probes BIOS etc etc pcm: Probes MSS ISA ports ad nauseam atkbd: Fixed ISA port psm: See atkbd > > > The UHCI on the "BigSur" seems to have > > > a weird hub attached on both ports which generally makes USB unusable > > > I don't think it's specific to ia64. > > What's "BigSur"? Can we maybe put this in the chipset/motherboard > notes? BigSur is the code name for the Itanium prototype. Some products are based on this (such as the HP i2000). I'm not sure we should talk in code names in the docs... I think, BTW, it's not UHCI itself that doesn't work. I think our hub code does something the Microsystems hubs do not like. The hangs are caused while resetting and querying the hubs. Since all devices are at least one hub away from the host controller, this makes USB useless... -- Marcel Moolenaar USPA: A-39004 marcel@xcllnt.net From owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 10 10:46:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA6CE37B401 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 10:45:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net (sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net [65.242.152.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1971443FE3 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 10:45:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jpb@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net) Received: from sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net (localhost.v6.thrupoint.net [127.0.0.1]) by sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B9624CF9 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 13:45:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jpb@localhost)h4AHjvvW013006 for freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 May 2003 13:45:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 13:45:57 -0400 From: Jim Brown To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030510174557.GA12876@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org References: <20030510000205.GC7976@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> <20030510020137.GA2188@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030510044232.GA8378@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> <20030510160857.GA24789@intruder.bmah.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030510160857.GA24789@intruder.bmah.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Request for Content: FreeBSD/ia64 5.1-RELEASE Hardware Notes X-BeenThere: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the IA-64 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 17:46:00 -0000 * Bruce A. Mah [2003-05-10 12:09]: > If memory serves me right, Jim Brown wrote: > > * Marcel Moolenaar [2003-05-09 22:01]: > > > On Fri, May 09, 2003 at 08:02:05PM -0400, Jim Brown wrote: > > > > > > Comments for both Marcel and Jim...thanks for working on this! > > > > > 1 Introduction > > > > > > It's probably a nice gesture to link to the platform home pages. > > I guess we could link directly to the ia64 platform page, rather than > the top-level page for all platforms. Done. > > > > > 2 Supported Processors and Motherboards > > > > > > Processors: > > > Itanium & Itanium 2 > > Other things users might want to know: > > SMP vs. UP? > > What types of consoles are supported (e.g. VGA, serial)? > > > > Motherboards: > > > It's probably a good idea to focus on chipset for now: > > > chipsets: > > > HP zx1 (only on development branch) > > "On development branch" means the P4 branch, right? If so, I'm am > tempted to leave it out of the hardware notes for CVS HEAD, or at > least maybe we should say "Perforce repository". Is this situation > going to change as a result of your blanket commit approval? Check the new text... I don't know about the Perforce repo- is there a URL? > > > > Intel 460GX > > > Intel E8870 > > > > > > > 3 Supported Devices > > > > 3.1 Disk Controllers > > > > > > ATA: Except for the PC chipset embedded ATA controllers, most should > > > work OOTB. > > I wish I knew which ones those were, so we could turn them off. > > > > SCSI: LSILogic 1030 Ultra4 is known to work [mpt(4)] > > > > > > > 3.8 Serial Interfaces > > > > > > Diva Serial [GSP] Multiport UART (development branch only [puc(4)] > > > > > I may have turned sio(4) by mistake in the original version of this > document. If so, we should turn it off now. Done. > > > > > 3.11 USB Devices > > > > > > UHCI and OHCI are supported. > > For UCHI and OHCI you can (probably) just turn on that part of the > hardware notes for ia64. Done. > > > > The UHCI on the "BigSur" seems to have > > > a weird hub attached on both ports which generally makes USB unusable > > > I don't think it's specific to ia64. > > What's "BigSur"? Can we maybe put this in the chipset/motherboard > notes? I found that it's an HP i2000 system. I've worked that in. > > > > This be it, roughly. Thanks, > > > > > > -- > > > Marcel Moolenaar USPA: A-39004 marcel@xcllnt.net > > > > > > > Done. > > > > http://sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net/ia64/article.html > > > > Additional wordsmithing soon. > > Your comments and suggestions are welcome. > > Thanks guys...this is looking good. > > Bruce. From owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 10 10:48:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53AC937B401 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 10:48:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net (sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net [65.242.152.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE68343FBF for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 10:48:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jpb@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net) Received: from sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net (localhost.v6.thrupoint.net [127.0.0.1]) by sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F6254CF9 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 13:48:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jpb@localhost)h4AHmt6p013018 for freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 May 2003 13:48:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 13:48:55 -0400 From: Jim Brown To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030510174855.GB12876@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org References: <20030510000205.GC7976@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> <20030510020137.GA2188@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030510044232.GA8378@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> <20030510160857.GA24789@intruder.bmah.org> <20030510173018.GB563@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030510173018.GB563@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Request for Content: FreeBSD/ia64 5.1-RELEASE Hardware Notes X-BeenThere: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the IA-64 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 17:48:56 -0000 We crossed emails. I'll make the next set of updates later today. Sorry for the confusion... jpb === From owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 10 11:47:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E8A237B401 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 11:47:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.xcllnt.net (209-128-86-226.bayarea.net [209.128.86.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0EFC43F75 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 11:47:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) Received: from athlon.pn.xcllnt.net (athlon.pn.xcllnt.net [192.168.4.3]) by ns1.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4AIlWwk032983 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 11:47:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@piii.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: from athlon.pn.xcllnt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by athlon.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4AIlWh0000754 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 11:47:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: (from marcel@localhost) by athlon.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h4AIlWxu000753 for freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 May 2003 11:47:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 11:47:32 -0700 From: Marcel Moolenaar To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030510184732.GA720@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> References: <20030510000205.GC7976@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> <20030510020137.GA2188@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030510044232.GA8378@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> <20030510160857.GA24789@intruder.bmah.org> <20030510174557.GA12876@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030510174557.GA12876@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Subject: Re: Request for Content: FreeBSD/ia64 5.1-RELEASE Hardware Notes X-BeenThere: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the IA-64 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 18:47:33 -0000 On Sat, May 10, 2003 at 01:45:57PM -0400, Jim Brown wrote: > > I don't know about the Perforce repo- is there a URL? http://perforce.freebsd.org/ We also expose the branch through CVSup. -- Marcel Moolenaar USPA: A-39004 marcel@xcllnt.net From owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 10 18:38:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBBD937B401 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 18:38:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net (sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net [65.242.152.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D498C43FE1 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 18:38:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jpb@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net) Received: from sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net (localhost.v6.thrupoint.net [127.0.0.1]) by sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F234CF9 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 21:38:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jpb@localhost)h4B1cfHw013787 for freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 May 2003 21:38:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 21:38:41 -0400 From: Jim Brown To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030511013841.GA13346@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org References: <20030510000205.GC7976@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> <20030510020137.GA2188@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030510044232.GA8378@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> <20030510160857.GA24789@intruder.bmah.org> <20030510173018.GB563@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030510173018.GB563@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Request for Content: FreeBSD/ia64 5.1-RELEASE Hardware Notes X-BeenThere: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the IA-64 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 01:38:44 -0000 * Marcel Moolenaar [2003-05-10 13:30]: > On Sat, May 10, 2003 at 09:08:57AM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > > > > 1 Introduction > > > > > > > > It's probably a nice gesture to link to the platform home pages. > > > > I guess we could link directly to the ia64 platform page, rather than > > the top-level page for all platforms. > > Yes, of course. That was what I meant. > > > > > > 2 Supported Processors and Motherboards > > > > > > > > Processors: > > > > Itanium & Itanium 2 > > > > Other things users might want to know: > > > > SMP vs. UP? > > Both :-) > > SMP is even more unstable than UP. I'm trying to squeeze some UP > related fixes in to improve stability, but there are high priority > jobs. > Done. > > What types of consoles are supported (e.g. VGA, serial)? > > Yes. Both syscons and sio(4) work. Done. > > > > > Motherboards: > > > > It's probably a good idea to focus on chipset for now: > > > > chipsets: > > > > HP zx1 (only on development branch) > > > > "On development branch" means the P4 branch, right? If so, I'm am > > tempted to leave it out of the hardware notes for CVS HEAD, or at > > least maybe we should say "Perforce repository". Is this situation > > going to change as a result of your blanket commit approval? > > Yes, development branch means perforce. We have told people about > this because the HP boxes are in use a lot of the time. The > situation is not going to change soon. Maybe 5.2, but more likely > later. Done. I've added the link perforce.freebsd.org. But, isn't this site for developers only? Let me know if this should come out. Also, Marcel mentions a CVSup version, but I couldn't find a reference to it. Perhaps that is what should go in instead of the Perforce link? > > > > > > 3.1 Disk Controllers > > > > > > > > ATA: Except for the PC chipset embedded ATA controllers, most should > > > > work OOTB. > > > > I wish I knew which ones those were, so we could turn them off. > > The best thing is to not sum up the device we know exist on i386, > but instead mention that all ia64 compatible ATA controllers are > expected to be supported. Done. > > > > > > 3.8 Serial Interfaces > > > > > > > > Diva Serial [GSP] Multiport UART (development branch only [puc(4)] > > > > > > > > I may have turned sio(4) by mistake in the original version of this > > document. If so, we should turn it off now. > > sio(4) works on Intel legacy ia64 machines. > sio(4) does not work on PA legacy ia64 machines. > > This is the crux of the problem on ia64. All devices on HP machines > are memory mapped and there's *no* ISA device support other than the > PCI dictated VGA legacy. As long as the box has an Intel legacy, > most devices work (sio(4), syscons(4), pcm(4), atkbd(4) psm(4)...) > Each of these fail on non-Intel legacy machines because the driver > makes ISA specific assumptions that do not hold: > sio: no support for memoru mapped I/O > syscons: Expect BIOS, VGA probes BIOS etc etc > pcm: Probes MSS ISA ports ad nauseam > atkbd: Fixed ISA port > psm: See atkbd Done. > > > > > The UHCI on the "BigSur" seems to have > > > > a weird hub attached on both ports which generally makes USB unusable > > > > I don't think it's specific to ia64. > > > > What's "BigSur"? Can we maybe put this in the chipset/motherboard > > notes? > > BigSur is the code name for the Itanium prototype. Some products are > based on this (such as the HP i2000). I'm not sure we should talk in > code names in the docs... I left the BigSur name reference in because the Linux IA64 project uses the same name, and there are several website references (including Intel) that use this name. Useful for web searches... > > I think, BTW, it's not UHCI itself that doesn't work. I think our > hub code does something the Microsystems hubs do not like. The > hangs are caused while resetting and querying the hubs. Since all > devices are at least one hub away from the host controller, this > makes USB useless... Done. Available at: http://sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net/ia64/article.html Best Regards, jpb ===