From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 07:03:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56EB337B404; Mon, 5 May 2003 07:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub02.unibe.ch (mailhub02.unibe.ch [130.92.9.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FFB043F93; Mon, 5 May 2003 07:03:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roth@iam.unibe.ch) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhub02.unibe.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEDB67641C; Mon, 5 May 2003 16:03:30 +0200 (MEST) Received: from mailhub02.unibe.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailhub02 [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with LMTP id 17724-01-79; Mon, 5 May 2003 16:03:30 +0200 (MEST) Received: from asterix.unibe.ch (asterix.unibe.ch [130.92.64.4]) by mailhub02.unibe.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7A276431; Mon, 5 May 2003 16:03:30 +0200 (MEST) Received: from speedy.unibe.ch (speedy [130.92.64.35]) by asterix.unibe.ch (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h45E3UK06472; Mon, 5 May 2003 16:03:30 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from roth@localhost) by speedy.unibe.ch (8.11.6+Sun/8.10.2) id h45E3UA27378; Mon, 5 May 2003 16:03:30 +0200 (MEST) Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 16:03:30 +0200 From: Tobias Roth To: Doug Barton Message-ID: <20030505140329.GA26656@speedy.unibe.ch> Mail-Followup-To: Doug Barton , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <20030501220637.74177.qmail@web40307.mail.yahoo.com> <20030502070835.GA5351@speedy.unibe.ch> <20030502031252.Y12694@znfgre.qbhto.arg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030502031252.Y12694@znfgre.qbhto.arg> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: SunOS speedy 5.8 Generic_108528-16 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-80 X-Virus-checked: by University of Berne cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: uhub2: device problem (was: Bluetooth stack for FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 14:03:33 -0000 On Fri, May 02, 2003 at 03:13:19AM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: > So that's why my mouse quit working! Yes, I think this should be fixed > prior to 5.1 as well. > > Doug Definitely :-) So, do you take care of this or should we/I who had to do with this problem lately do so? I know some people collected a lot of debug output and took it to the current ml, but without much luck or response from the usb specialists (please correct me if I am wrong here and missed anything). I am a bit at a loss concerning how to proceed. greets, t. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 08:50:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6EB37B404 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 08:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail16.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC4CC43F85 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 08:50:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 8978 invoked from network); 5 May 2003 15:50:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender )encrypted SMTP for ; 5 May 2003 15:50:14 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx ([216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h45Fo5dt014581; Mon, 5 May 2003 11:50:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.4 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1556166405.20030502160154@directski.com> Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 11:50:12 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Dermot McNally cc: "M. Warner Losh" cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Re[4]: Support for O2Micro Card Bridges? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 15:50:12 -0000 On 02-May-2003 Dermot McNally wrote: > Hello John, > > On Wednesday, April 30, 2003, 18:18:16, you wrote: > > JB> Can you send me a copy of your ASL dump? > > Funny thing - that didn't work when I tried it originally. After > building a brand new installation, it now works. The box I set up for > you to test is still available, but acpidump seems to produce the > goods now. Here's you go. Ok, cool. Does this machine have the same error message from pcib0() about not a wrong resource type for _PRS? -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 10:00:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3AD037B404 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 10:00:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from manor.msen.com (manor.msen.com [148.59.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33DDA43F93 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 10:00:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wayne@staff.msen.com) Received: from manor.msen.com (wayne@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by manor.msen.com (8.12.7M/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h45H0cbu014973 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:00:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from wayne@localhost) by manor.msen.com (8.12.7M/8.12.7/Submit) id h45H0cig014972 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:00:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 13:00:37 -0400 From: "Michael R. Wayne" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030505130037.E94496@staff.msen.com> References: <5B7014A44B89494E830AD32859FBC858010AE689@nsc-msg01.network.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <5B7014A44B89494E830AD32859FBC858010AE689@nsc-msg01.network.com>; from WelchSM@nsc-msg01.network.com on Fri, May 02, 2003 at 04:55:20PM -0500 Subject: Re: Sound disappeared on Dell Inspirion 8100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 17:00:43 -0000 OK, problem solved. Posting a comment here so that anyone who searches the list finds it. Sean Welch pointed out that between 4.5 and 4.6 the defaults for mixer volume were changed to zero. I figured that it was something simple. /\/\ \/\/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 10:15:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F403337B404 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 10:15:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web40305.mail.yahoo.com (web40305.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.78.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 40ADF43FB1 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 10:15:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from m_evmenkin@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030505171500.74191.qmail@web40305.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [165.193.27.35] by web40305.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 05 May 2003 10:15:00 PDT Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 10:15:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Maksim Yevmenkin To: mobile@freebsd.org, Doug Barton , Tobias Roth In-Reply-To: <3EB69929.1070900@cw.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Re: uhub2: device problem (was: Bluetooth stack for FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 17:15:01 -0000 Hello, > > So that's why my mouse quit working! Yes, I think this should be fixed > > prior to 5.1 as well. > > Definitely :-) > > So, do you take care of this or should we/I who had to do with this > problem lately do so? > > I know some people collected a lot of debug output and took it to the > current ml, but without much luck or response from the usb specialists > (please correct me if I am wrong here and missed anything). I am a bit > at a loss concerning how to proceed. well, after looking more into the w2k dumps i put at http://www.geocities.com/m_evmenkin/usb/ i found out that w2k resets USB port twice when new device is attached. why? is it just w2k thing or it is some kind of workaround? any USB guru care to comment? i will try to play with uhun(4) code as soon as i get my -current more stable :) thanks, max __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 13:16:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A3FC37B401 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:16:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E25F343FB1 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:16:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@freebsd.org) Received: from master.dougb.net (12-234-22-23.client.attbi.com[12.234.22.23]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01) with SMTP id <2003050520160200100mkvube>; Mon, 5 May 2003 20:16:03 +0000 Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 13:16:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Barton To: Tobias Roth In-Reply-To: <20030505140329.GA26656@speedy.unibe.ch> Message-ID: <20030505131525.I3042@znfgre.qbhto.arg> References: <20030501220637.74177.qmail@web40307.mail.yahoo.com> <20030502031252.Y12694@znfgre.qbhto.arg> <20030505140329.GA26656@speedy.unibe.ch> Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-message-flag: Outlook -- Not just for spreading viruses anymore! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: uhub2: device problem (was: Bluetooth stack for FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 20:16:06 -0000 On Mon, 5 May 2003, Tobias Roth wrote: > On Fri, May 02, 2003 at 03:13:19AM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: > > So that's why my mouse quit working! Yes, I think this should be fixed > > prior to 5.1 as well. > > > > Doug > > Definitely :-) > > So, do you take care of this or should we/I who had to do with this > problem lately do so? I'm definitely not going to be able to fix the problem, so feel free to proceed. -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 14:52:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7DC37B401 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:52:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32C4A43F75 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:52:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Cnr1-0000mf-00 for ; Mon, 05 May 2003 23:50:35 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Cnio-0000Ay-00 for ; Mon, 05 May 2003 23:42:06 +0200 From: "Jesse D. Guardiani" Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 17:43:27 -0400 Organization: WingNET Internet Services Lines: 51 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.1 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 21:52:57 -0000 Howdy list, I'm in the market for a new laptop to replace my developer workstation. I've seen a ton of great looking laptops out there lately, but I know from experience that when running UNIX, you buy the hardware for the OS, not the other way around. I'm just wondering if the list can make some recommendations that might fit my needs. Price is not really that big of a factor for me as long as it's competative. I'm a developer. I spend more time on my computer than I do anywhere else, so I want something that I'll be happy with for a long time. However, my first choice, an Apple Powerbook G4 17" _is_ a bit too rich for my blood. Here are the features I'd really like to have in a laptop, but not necessarilly in any particular order: 1.) decently fast (2ghz) so I can compile things quickly 2.) 512MB DDR RAM 3.) Geforce 4 4.) Compact Flash card reader (is FreeBSD even capable of using these??) 5.) 10/100 Ethernet (duh) 6.) Great Power management support 7.) 15" or larger screen (don't care about res) 8.) CDRW/DVD 9.) Wireless support (don't really care how fast) 10.) I want all the keys on my keyboard to work. :) OK ok, I know that is a lot of stuff and I'm picky! But does anyone know of a laptop that has all of this AND it all works under FreeBSD? Thanks! -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 14:59:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3651C37B404; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:59:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from teebar.traveldev.com (mauer.traveldev.com [212.147.140.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 764E343FCB; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:59:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dermot@teebar.traveldev.com) Received: from teebar.traveldev.com (localhost.traveldev.com [127.0.0.1]) by teebar.traveldev.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h45LxRoE052934; Mon, 5 May 2003 22:59:27 +0100 (IST) (envelope-from dermot@teebar.traveldev.com) Received: from localhost (dermot@localhost)h45LxQ9q052931; Mon, 5 May 2003 22:59:26 +0100 (IST) Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 22:59:26 +0100 (IST) From: Dermot McNally To: John Baldwin In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Real-Relay: Local Relay localhost.traveldev.com (127.0.0.1) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.30 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) cc: Dermot McNally cc: "M. Warner Losh" cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org Subject: RE: Re[4]: Support for O2Micro Card Bridges? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 21:59:41 -0000 On Mon, 5 May 2003, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 02-May-2003 Dermot McNally wrote: > > Funny thing - that didn't work when I tried it originally. After > > building a brand new installation, it now works. The box I set up for > > you to test is still available, but acpidump seems to produce the > > goods now. Here's you go. > > Ok, cool. Does this machine have the same error message > from pcib0() about not a wrong resource type for _PRS? Yes - in fact it's the very same box, just with a different hard disk and a fresh OS build. But clearly acpidump had improved a bit. The boot time errors are the same, as is the lack of any PC-Card action. Dermot From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 15:35:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D93CA37B401 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 15:35:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postal2.es.net (postal2.es.net [198.128.3.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24DA943F3F for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 15:35:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal2.es.net (Postal Node 2) with ESMTP id MUA74016; Mon, 05 May 2003 15:35:31 -0700 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 6B6755D04; Mon, 5 May 2003 15:35:31 -0700 (PDT) To: jesse@wingnet.net In-Reply-To: Message from "Jesse D. Guardiani" of "Mon, 05 May 2003 17:43:27 EDT." Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 15:35:31 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20030505223531.6B6755D04@ptavv.es.net> cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 22:35:34 -0000 > From: "Jesse D. Guardiani" > Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 17:43:27 -0400 > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > Howdy list, > > I'm in the market for a new laptop to replace > my developer workstation. > > I've seen a ton of great looking laptops out > there lately, but I know from experience that > when running UNIX, you buy the hardware for > the OS, not the other way around. > > Price is not really that big of a factor for > me as long as it's competative. I'm a > developer. I spend more time on my computer > than I do anywhere else, so I want something > that I'll be happy with for a long time. > However, my first choice, an Apple Powerbook > G4 17" _is_ a bit too rich for my blood. > > Here are the features I'd really like to > have in a laptop, but not necessarilly in > any particular order: > > 1.) decently fast (2ghz) so I can compile > things quickly > 2.) 512MB DDR RAM > 3.) Geforce 4 > 4.) Compact Flash card reader (is FreeBSD > even capable of using these??) > 5.) 10/100 Ethernet (duh) > 6.) Great Power management support > 7.) 15" or larger screen (don't care about res) > 8.) CDRW/DVD > 9.) Wireless support (don't really care how fast) > 10.) I want all the keys on my keyboard to work. :) > > OK ok, I know that is a lot of stuff and > I'm picky! But does anyone know of a laptop > that has all of this AND it all works under > FreeBSD? "Great looking" is at the bottom of my list. I prefer that they work. :-) 1. CPU speed is only of limited import. If the disks are slow or the memory inadequate, a fast CPU is not significant for most things. My 1.8 GHz laptop can buildworld in under 30 minutes for STABLE and about 35 minutes for CURRENT. 2. I think any modern laptop can handle 512 MB. After market memory from a good source (i.e. Crucial) can save $$$. 3. GeForce4?? Can't fathom this. ATI is the current darling of the gamer crowd. 4. Pretty standard, but slight differences between devices can cause a bit of pain. FreeBSD STABLE and CURRENT both can talk to my flash stick as well as many others. Minor hacks can get ALMOST all to work fine. 5. Most are now going 10 GigE as standard. 6. Ain't no such thing today. APM is pretty limited, but I can live with it. ACPI requires current and is still fairly buggy (as are many BIOSes). 7. Ahh, a heavy-weight. Look at resolution. You can get 1600x1200 at 15 inches from a few vendors. These will always look better than 1400x1050. (Cost more, too!) 8. Duh! 9. See 8. Look for Prism 2.5 or Prism 3 or for Cisco cards. Built-in is nice, but some systems using mini-PCI cards have really a bad antenna. Some are excellent. See reviews. Dell and IBM tend to have highly rated antennas. Avoid Broadcom and TI based units. No FreeBSD support is near at this time. 10. Good luck! I think all of the keys on my ThinkPad T30 work, but I have not mapped all of them to anything useful. One possible is an IBM ThinkPad A31p. 2 GHz, 15", 1600x1200, does almost everything you ask, but has broken ACPI and ATI Mobility FireGL graphics. APM works VERY well, so ACPI is not too important. You do need the DOS based ps2 utility to set it up, though. (Ugh.) IBM supplies the floppy images for this. Not really pretty, but rugged and reliable. Heavy. Over well 7 pounds or 3 kilos. Awesome display! Good luck! R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 16:01:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67F1737B401 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 16:01:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1086A43FCB for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 16:01:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Covy-0005Op-00 for ; Tue, 06 May 2003 00:59:46 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19CovQ-0005Mi-00 for ; Tue, 06 May 2003 00:59:12 +0200 From: "Jesse D. Guardiani" Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 19:00:33 -0400 Organization: WingNET Internet Services Lines: 123 Message-ID: References: <20030505223531.6B6755D04@ptavv.es.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.1 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 23:01:11 -0000 Kevin Oberman wrote: >> From: "Jesse D. Guardiani" >> Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 17:43:27 -0400 >> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Hi Kevin, thanks for the reply. See comments below: > "Great looking" is at the bottom of my list. I prefer that they > work. :-) Did I say Great Looking? I don't care how it looks either. > > 1. CPU speed is only of limited import. If the disks are slow or the > memory inadequate, a fast CPU is not significant for most things. My 1.8 > GHz laptop can buildworld in under 30 minutes for STABLE and about 35 > minutes for CURRENT. I want a fast disk too. But I also want at least a 2Ghz processor. I do just fine with a 600Mhz at home, but I want to raise the bar. > > 2. I think any modern laptop can handle 512 MB. After market memory from > a good source (i.e. Crucial) can save $$$. Sure. > > 3. GeForce4?? Can't fathom this. ATI is the current darling of the gamer > crowd. I don't really care that much. GeForce I know is supported which is why I mentioned it. Just as long as OpenGL works I'm happy. > > 4. Pretty standard, but slight differences between devices can cause a > bit of pain. FreeBSD STABLE and CURRENT both can talk to my flash stick > as well as many others. Minor hacks can get ALMOST all to work fine. Really? What driver? 4.8 or 5.0? Anything I should look for in particular so that I can guarantee they work? > > 5. Most are now going 10 GigE as standard. No. I don't think so. 10/100 is plenty fine for me. I don't send files that large and I live in Tennessee where everything is still 10/100. > > 6. Ain't no such thing today. APM is pretty limited, but I can live with > it. ACPI requires current and is still fairly buggy (as are many > BIOSes). Dang. Should I start looking at Linux? > > 7. Ahh, a heavy-weight. Look at resolution. You can get 1600x1200 at 15 > inches from a few vendors. These will always look better than > 1400x1050. (Cost more, too!) I don't particularly care about res. I think 1600x1200 is too much for a 15" screen. 1400x1050 is more than enough. > > 8. Duh! > > 9. See 8. Look for Prism 2.5 or Prism 3 or for Cisco cards. Built-in is > nice, but some systems using mini-PCI cards have really a bad > antenna. Some are excellent. See reviews. Dell and IBM tend to have > highly rated antennas. OK. > > Avoid Broadcom and TI based units. No FreeBSD support is near at this > time. OK. > > 10. Good luck! I think all of the keys on my ThinkPad T30 work, but I > have not mapped all of them to anything useful. > > One possible is an IBM ThinkPad A31p. 2 GHz, 15", 1600x1200, does almost > everything you ask, but has broken ACPI and ATI Mobility FireGL > graphics. APM works VERY well, so ACPI is not too important. You do need > the DOS based ps2 utility to set it up, though. (Ugh.) IBM supplies the > floppy images for this. Not really pretty, but rugged and reliable. > Heavy. Over well 7 pounds or 3 kilos. Awesome display! IBMs seem a bit overpriced and underfeatured to me. Still, if that is the best suggestion I get, then I might give it a try. > > Good luck! > > R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer > Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) > Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) > E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 16:34:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED6637B410 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 16:34:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postal2.es.net (postoffice2.gridpma.com [198.128.3.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A536D43F75 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 16:34:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal2.es.net (Postal Node 2) with ESMTP id MUA74016; Mon, 05 May 2003 16:34:29 -0700 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id DC5565D04; Mon, 5 May 2003 16:34:28 -0700 (PDT) To: jesse@wingnet.net In-Reply-To: Message from "Jesse D. Guardiani" of "Mon, 05 May 2003 19:00:33 EDT." Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 16:34:28 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20030505233428.DC5565D04@ptavv.es.net> cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 23:34:31 -0000 > From: "Jesse D. Guardiani" > Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 19:00:33 -0400 > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > Kevin Oberman wrote: > > >> From: "Jesse D. Guardiani" > >> Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 17:43:27 -0400 > >> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > > > Hi Kevin, thanks for the reply. See comments below: > > > "Great looking" is at the bottom of my list. I prefer that they > > work. :-) > > Did I say Great Looking? I don't care how it looks either. > > > > > 1. CPU speed is only of limited import. If the disks are slow or the > > memory inadequate, a fast CPU is not significant for most things. My 1.8 > > GHz laptop can buildworld in under 30 minutes for STABLE and about 35 > > minutes for CURRENT. > > I want a fast disk too. But I also want at least a 2Ghz processor. > I do just fine with a 600Mhz at home, but I want to raise the bar. > > > > > > 2. I think any modern laptop can handle 512 MB. After market memory from > > a good source (i.e. Crucial) can save $$$. > > Sure. > > > > > 3. GeForce4?? Can't fathom this. ATI is the current darling of the gamer > > crowd. > > I don't really care that much. GeForce I know is supported which is > why I mentioned it. Just as long as OpenGL works I'm happy. > > > > > > 4. Pretty standard, but slight differences between devices can cause a > > bit of pain. FreeBSD STABLE and CURRENT both can talk to my flash stick > > as well as many others. Minor hacks can get ALMOST all to work fine. > > Really? What driver? 4.8 or 5.0? Anything I should look for in particular > so that I can guarantee they work? > > > > > > 5. Most are now going 10 GigE as standard. > > No. I don't think so. 10/100 is plenty fine for me. I don't send files > that large and I live in Tennessee where everything is still 10/100. Dang fingers. That was not 10 GigE. It was supposed to be GigE. I don't have anything that talks 10 GigE except Juniper routers. > > 6. Ain't no such thing today. APM is pretty limited, but I can live with > > it. ACPI requires current and is still fairly buggy (as are many > > BIOSes). > > Dang. Should I start looking at Linux? Most ACPI code is shared between Linux and *BSD, so I don't know that Linux would be much better. ACPI is really not quite thee, yet. Even for Windows XP, there can be some nasty issues. > > 7. Ahh, a heavy-weight. Look at resolution. You can get 1600x1200 at 15 > > inches from a few vendors. These will always look better than > > 1400x1050. (Cost more, too!) > > I don't particularly care about res. I think 1600x1200 is too much > for a 15" screen. 1400x1050 is more than enough. I have a friend who has the 1600x1200 and I an assure you that it's not too much. Fonts look much cleaner and it is amazingly readable, even to my 50 year old eyes, with rather small fonts. I don't envy the weight, but I LOVE the display. > > 8. Duh! > > > > 9. See 8. Look for Prism 2.5 or Prism 3 or for Cisco cards. Built-in is > > nice, but some systems using mini-PCI cards have really a bad > > antenna. Some are excellent. See reviews. Dell and IBM tend to have > > highly rated antennas. > > OK. > > > > > > Avoid Broadcom and TI based units. No FreeBSD support is near at this > > time. > > OK. > > > > > 10. Good luck! I think all of the keys on my ThinkPad T30 work, but I > > have not mapped all of them to anything useful. > > > > One possible is an IBM ThinkPad A31p. 2 GHz, 15", 1600x1200, does almost > > everything you ask, but has broken ACPI and ATI Mobility FireGL > > graphics. APM works VERY well, so ACPI is not too important. You do need > > the DOS based ps2 utility to set it up, though. (Ugh.) IBM supplies the > > floppy images for this. Not really pretty, but rugged and reliable. > > Heavy. Over well 7 pounds or 3 kilos. Awesome display! > > IBMs seem a bit overpriced and underfeatured to me. Still, if that is > the best suggestion I get, then I might give it a try. They are expensive, but you get what you pay for. I have had 3 ThinkPads over many years with only the well-known battery issues with my 600E. IBM support is first-rate and the warranty is above average. It's built like a tank, but it's still rather light for what it offers. Every review I have seen on recent models has been excellent. See this month's PC magazine for a mini-review of the new T40 Centrino. (Yum!) I am less familiar with Dell laptops, but I am rather impressed with my wife's. VERY light, single spindle unit. But she runs Windows. (I love her, anyway.) R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 16:42:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACEAD37B401 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 16:42:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns3.safety.net (ns3.safety.net [216.40.201.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B3143F3F for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 16:42:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cbiffle@safety.net) Received: from localhost (rs.rackshack.net.safety.net [216.40.201.32]) by ns3.safety.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h45NgEA24405; Mon, 5 May 2003 16:42:14 -0700 From: "Cliff L. Biffle" To: "Kevin Oberman" , jesse@wingnet.net Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 16:42:39 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <20030505233428.DC5565D04@ptavv.es.net> In-Reply-To: <20030505233428.DC5565D04@ptavv.es.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305051642.39126.cbiffle@safety.net> cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 23:42:20 -0000 On Monday 05 May 2003 04:34 pm, Kevin Oberman wrote: > I have a friend who has the 1600x1200 and I an assure you that it's not > too much. Fonts look much cleaner and it is amazingly readable, even to > my 50 year old eyes, with rather small fonts. I don't envy the weight, > but I LOVE the display. I'd like to point out something here that a lot of people, particularly those with Windows backgrounds, don't realize. Higher resolution in X doesn't have to mean smaller fonts. By properly setting you DPI in your X configuration (many monitors report their size automagically, saving you the trouble) a 12pt font is a 12pt font regardless of resolution. Now, granted, graphics and whatnot are still going to be smaller on a high-res display, as are some bitmapped fonts, but for the most part, higher resolution just means greater clarity. -Cliff L. Biffle From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 17:25:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E79E437B401 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 17:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from red-dwarf.magic-moments.com.au (mail0.ilisys.com.au [203.202.10.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2274F43F3F for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 17:25:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wwwadmin@red-dwarf.magic-moments.com.au) Received: (from wwwadmin@localhost) by red-dwarf.magic-moments.com.au (8.11.6/8.9.3) id h460PFD18909; Tue, 6 May 2003 10:25:15 +1000 Message-Id: <200305060025.h460PFD18909@red-dwarf.magic-moments.com.au> Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 10:25:14 From: Michael Ross To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: iMail 2.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MSMail-Priority: Medium Importance: Medium Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: need advice on budget laptops X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Michael Ross List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 00:25:18 -0000 Hi, I was wondering if anybody on this list could point me in the right direction regarding a budget laptop purchase. The main models I am looking into are Dell Inspiron 1100 hp pavilion ze4281 IBM ThinkPad 2681-B4M Any thoughts/experiences on the above models are welcome. thanks, -- Michael michael@clowtech.org From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 19:10:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECFDA37B404 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 19:10:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parmenides.zen.co.uk (parmenides.zen.co.uk [212.23.8.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 331FD43FA3 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 19:10:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tony@ubik.demon.co.uk) Received: (qmail 12591 invoked from network); 6 May 2003 02:10:05 -0000 Received: from protagoras.zen.co.uk (212.23.8.61) by parmenides.zen.co.uk with QMQP; 6 May 2003 02:10:05 -0000 Received: from dsl-217-155-183-134.zen.co.uk (HELO ubik.demon.co.uk) (217.155.183.134) by protagoras.zen.co.uk with SMTP; 6 May 2003 02:10:04 -0000 X-Zen-Trace: 217.155.183.134 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 02:09:09 +0000 To: Maksim Yevmenkin From: Anthony Naggs References: <3EB69929.1070900@cw.com> <20030505171500.74191.qmail@web40305.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20030505171500.74191.qmail@web40305.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 U cc: Doug Barton cc: mobile@freebsd.org cc: Tobias Roth Subject: Re: uhub2: device problem (was: Bluetooth stack for FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 02:10:08 -0000 In article <20030505171500.74191.qmail@web40305.mail.yahoo.com>, Maksim Yevmenkin writes >Hello, > >> > So that's why my mouse quit working! Yes, I think this should be fixed >> > prior to 5.1 as well. >> >> Definitely :-) >> >> So, do you take care of this or should we/I who had to do with this >> problem lately do so? >> >> I know some people collected a lot of debug output and took it to the >> current ml, but without much luck or response from the usb specialists >> (please correct me if I am wrong here and missed anything). I am a bit >> at a loss concerning how to proceed. > >well, after looking more into the w2k dumps i put at > >http://www.geocities.com/m_evmenkin/usb/ > >i found out that w2k resets USB port twice when new device is attached. >why? is it just w2k thing or it is some kind of workaround? any USB guru >care to comment? This is how the Windows (all flavours) USB stack works: detects device arrival, signal reset on port, start reading device descriptors to find out device Class Id, Vendor & Model Id, etc... Each candidate driver found by the Plug'n'Play system is loaded: the driver signals another bus reset on the port, reads the device descriptors itself and decides whether it recognises the device. This continues until a driver recognises the device as one it supports, or all candidates drivers have been tried. The drivers are tried in the order: more specific to least specific. So a driver listed in the Registry for Vendor Id & Model Id pair is tried before one Registered for the USB device Class. (Sorry if that is a bit too vague, the exact details are in the Windows DDK.) >i will try to play with uhun(4) code as soon as i get my -current more >stable :) I would love to dig around the USB stack. I haven't yet found time to get Current running & do so. :-( Tony From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 19:52:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1558237B401 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 19:52:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web40302.mail.yahoo.com (web40302.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.78.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E75843F93 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 19:52:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from m_evmenkin@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030506025256.76845.qmail@web40302.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.175.241.198] by web40302.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 05 May 2003 19:52:56 PDT Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 19:52:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Maksim Yevmenkin To: mobile@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-1423158472-1052189576=:76740" Subject: BCM2033 chip based Bluetooth devices X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 02:52:57 -0000 --0-1423158472-1052189576=:76740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Id: Content-Disposition: inline Hackers, the BCM2033 hardware finally arrived :) now i have Belkin Bluetooth USB adapter model F8T001. i'm very pleased to announce that i made it work with my recent (2003-05-01) snapshot. here is what you need to do 1) download 2003-05-01 snapshot from http://www.geocities.com/m_evmenkin/ 2) apply attached patch to ubtbcmfw(4) driver 3) compile and install kernel modules 4) compile and install all user space tools 5) kldload ubtbcmfw 6) kldload ng_ubt 7) attach BCM2033 device. you should now have /dev/ubtbcmfwX.Y device nodes. 8) load firmware: bcmfw -n ubtbcmfw0 -m BCM2033-MD.hex -f BCM2033-FW.bin 9) after you have loaded the firmware you will see detach message from the ubtbcmfw(4) driver followed by attach messages from ng_ubt(4) driver 10) at this point the device should be initialized and you should be able to run rc.bluetooth start ubt0 please let me know if it works for you thanks, max __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Guardiani" Message-ID: <20030506034132.GA41594@lethargic.dyndns.org> References: <20030505223531.6B6755D04@ptavv.es.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 03:41:42 -0000 On Mon, May 05, 2003 at 07:00:33PM -0400, Jesse D. Guardiani wrote: > IBMs seem a bit overpriced and underfeatured to me. Still, if that is > the best suggestion I get, then I might give it a try. I have always preferred IBM over other brands when it comes to laptops. They are pretty sturdy and tend to last a long time. As Kevin stated, you get what you pay for. Also, I have always preferred IBM because of their keyboards. There is something about the layout that I really like. I think it is mainly the positioning of the cursor keys and the num/caps/scroll-lock keys. It seems kind of picky, but I do really like their keyboards compared to other brands. I also prefer the little knobby mouse pointer thing (I've never bothered to find the proper term for it :) ) over the square ones that you run your finger around on. Then again, I also prefer a simple trackball over a standard mouse, so maybe that's why. One other note that may or may not be relevant is that if you want to buy replacement parts (without scowering ebay and hoping for the best), IBM allows end users to order parts from them directly. The prices are usually the MSRP, which is usually not much more expensive than what you would pay at a reseller. HP/Compaq might let end users order parts (they do with their printers at least), but I'm not sure about other companies. It may or may not ever be relevant, but if you're a do-it-yourselfer when it comes to hardware (I assume most of us are), IBM seems to be a lot easier to buy parts for. Anyways, just my two cents. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 22:27:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0A837B401 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 22:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 178E743F85 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 22:27:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.8/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h465RYA7049873; Mon, 5 May 2003 23:27:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 23:25:10 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20030505.232510.38348766.imp@bsdimp.com> To: oberman@es.net From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20030505233428.DC5565D04@ptavv.es.net> References: <20030505233428.DC5565D04@ptavv.es.net> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.2 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: jesse@wingnet.net cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 05:27:40 -0000 In message: <20030505233428.DC5565D04@ptavv.es.net> "Kevin Oberman" writes: : > > 7. Ahh, a heavy-weight. Look at resolution. You can get 1600x1200 at 15 : > > inches from a few vendors. These will always look better than : > > 1400x1050. (Cost more, too!) : > : > I don't particularly care about res. I think 1600x1200 is too much : > for a 15" screen. 1400x1050 is more than enough. : : I have a friend who has the 1600x1200 and I an assure you that it's not : too much. Fonts look much cleaner and it is amazingly readable, even to : my 50 year old eyes, with rather small fonts. I don't envy the weight, : but I LOVE the display. Me Too I *LOVE* the 1600x1200 resolution. However, I gotta get new batteries because in the last 20 months I've nearly worn out the ones I have... I also agree with the weight issues. My next laptop likely will be something like the Libretto L3 Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 22:52:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25BEE37B401 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 22:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from multivac.drewish.com (216-210-203-35.atgi.net [216.210.203.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A1C443F3F for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 22:52:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drewish@katherinehouse.com) Received: from katherinehouse.com (host-201-225.pubnet.pdx.edu [131.252.201.225]) by multivac.drewish.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h465wPHT009824 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 22:58:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drewish@katherinehouse.com) Message-ID: <3EB74DAB.7000705@katherinehouse.com> Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 22:52:43 -0700 From: andrew morton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <20030505223531.6B6755D04@ptavv.es.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-31.9 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA version=2.53 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 05:52:48 -0000 Jesse D. Guardiani wrote: >>One possible is an IBM ThinkPad A31p. 2 GHz, 15", 1600x1200, does almost >>everything you ask, but has broken ACPI and ATI Mobility FireGL >>graphics. APM works VERY well, so ACPI is not too important. You do need >>the DOS based ps2 utility to set it up, though. (Ugh.) IBM supplies the >>floppy images for this. Not really pretty, but rugged and reliable. >>Heavy. Over well 7 pounds or 3 kilos. Awesome display! > > IBMs seem a bit overpriced and underfeatured to me. Still, if that is > the best suggestion I get, then I might give it a try. I'm going to put in a vote for IBM. They maybe a bit more expensive but they build very solid hardware. I've got an A21e with 2+ years of very rough usage (it goes everywhere with me) and it works like a champ. The only problems are cosmetic (cracked the plastic on the case) and after reading Jason Hunt's comments on the ease of getting parts I'm ready to call up IBM and order a new case. While I'm at it I'll bash Dell real quick. In my experience and based on an unscientific survey of posts to the list I'd say Dell tends to be a good deal but you'll probably end up with warranty issues. Anyway good luck, andrew From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 23:30:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B570337B401 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 23:30:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns3.safety.net (ns3.safety.net [216.40.201.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F17043F3F for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 23:30:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cbiffle@safety.net) Received: from localhost (rs.rackshack.net.safety.net [216.40.201.32]) by ns3.safety.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h466UtA10037 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 23:30:55 -0700 From: "Cliff L. Biffle" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 23:31:24 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305052331.24736.cbiffle@safety.net> Subject: Powering down / 'stop'ing cards under NEWCARD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 06:30:57 -0000 One thing I noticed when I upgraded to -current was that pccardc no longer worked. There were no device nodes for my PCMCIA controllers, etc. This hasn't bothered me until now, as I've found a card (3Com EtherlinkIII) that seems to want to be properly shut down before eject. Otherwise, it hangs the machine hard. That specific problem I'll deal with another day, but for now, is there any way to 'stop' a card under -current with NEWCARD? -Cliff L. Biffle From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 6 01:12:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D6AC37B401 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 01:12:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from birch.ripe.net (birch.ripe.net [193.0.1.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9185943FB1 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 01:12:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marks@ripe.net) Received: from laptop.6bone.nl (cow.ripe.net [193.0.1.239]) by birch.ripe.net (8.12.9/8.11.6) with SMTP id h468CBSs012659; Tue, 6 May 2003 10:12:11 +0200 Received: (nullmailer pid 1746 invoked by uid 1000); Tue, 06 May 2003 08:12:10 -0000 Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 10:12:10 +0200 From: Mark Santcroos To: "Cliff L. Biffle" Message-ID: <20030506081210.GB758@laptop.6bone.nl> References: <200305052331.24736.cbiffle@safety.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200305052331.24736.cbiffle@safety.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Handles: MS6-6BONE, MS18417-RIPE cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Powering down / 'stop'ing cards under NEWCARD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 08:12:13 -0000 On Mon, May 05, 2003 at 11:31:24PM -0700, Cliff L. Biffle wrote: > That specific problem I'll deal with another day, but for now, is there any > way to 'stop' a card under -current with NEWCARD? The following patch was provided by Mitsuru IWASAKI: (Find his original post at current@ Oct 29 2002) Index: pccbb.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/dev/pccbb/pccbb.c,v retrieving revision 1.59 diff -u -r1.59 pccbb.c --- pccbb.c 11 Oct 2002 04:30:59 -0000 1.59 +++ pccbb.c 29 Oct 2002 10:55:48 -0000 @@ -86,6 +86,8 @@ #include #include #include +#include +#include #include #include #include @@ -210,6 +212,13 @@ SYSCTL_ULONG(_hw_cbb, OID_AUTO, debug, CTLFLAG_RW, &cbb_debug, 0, "Verbose cardbus bridge debugging"); +int cbb_boot_deactivated = 0; +TUNABLE_INT("hw.cbb.boot_deactivated", &cbb_boot_deactivated); +SYSCTL_INT(_hw_cbb, OID_AUTO, boot_deactivated, CTLFLAG_RD, + &cbb_boot_deactivated, 0, + "Override the automatic powering up of pccards at boot."); + + static int cbb_chipset(uint32_t pci_id, const char **namep); static int cbb_probe(device_t brdev); static void cbb_chipinit(struct cbb_softc *sc); @@ -264,6 +273,93 @@ static void cbb_write_config(device_t brdev, int b, int s, int f, int reg, uint32_t val, int width); +static d_open_t crdopen; +static d_close_t crdclose; +static d_ioctl_t crdioctl; + +#define CDEV_MAJOR 50 +static struct cdevsw crd_cdevsw = { + /* open */ crdopen, + /* close */ crdclose, + /* read */ noread, + /* write */ nowrite, + /* ioctl */ crdioctl, + /* poll */ nopoll, + /* mmap */ nommap, + /* strategy */ nostrategy, + /* name */ "crd", + /* maj */ CDEV_MAJOR, + /* dump */ nodump, + /* psize */ nopsize, + /* flags */ 0, +}; + +#define PIOCSVIR _IOW('P', 10, int) /* Virtual insert/remove */ + +static int +crdopen(dev_t dev, int oflags, int devtype, d_thread_t *td) +{ + if (dev == NULL || dev->si_drv1 == NULL) { + return (ENXIO); + } + + return (0); +} + +static int +crdclose(dev_t dev, int fflag, int devtype, d_thread_t *td) +{ + return (0); +} + +static int +crdioctl(dev_t dev, u_long cmd, caddr_t data, int fflag, d_thread_t *td) +{ + struct cbb_softc *sc; + int error; + int pwval; + + sc = dev->si_drv1; + error = 0; + + switch(cmd) { + /* + * Set power values. + */ + case PIOCSVIR: + pwval = *(int *)data; + + switch (pwval) { + case 0: + if (!(sc->flags & CBB_CARD_OK)) { + error = EINVAL; + break; + } + + sc->flags |= CBB_INACTIVATE; + cbb_removal(sc); + break; + + case 1: + if (sc->flags & CBB_CARD_OK) { + error = EINVAL; + break; + } + + sc->flags &= ~CBB_INACTIVATE; + cbb_insert(sc); + break; + } + + break; + + default: + error = ENOTTY; + } + + return (error); +} + /* */ static __inline void @@ -560,6 +656,8 @@ { struct cbb_softc *sc = (struct cbb_softc *)device_get_softc(brdev); int rid; + int unit; + dev_t cbb_dev_t; mtx_init(&sc->mtx, device_get_nameunit(brdev), "cbb", MTX_DEF); cv_init(&sc->cv, "cbb cv"); @@ -680,6 +778,10 @@ /* reset interrupt */ cbb_set(sc, CBB_SOCKET_EVENT, cbb_get(sc, CBB_SOCKET_EVENT)); + if (cbb_boot_deactivated) { + sc->flags |= CBB_INACTIVATE; + } + /* Start the thread */ if (kthread_create(cbb_event_thread, sc, &sc->event_thread, 0, 0, "%s%d", device_get_name(sc->dev), device_get_unit(sc->dev))) { @@ -687,6 +789,10 @@ panic ("cbb_create_event_thread"); } + unit = device_get_unit(sc->dev); + cbb_dev_t = make_dev(&crd_cdevsw, unit, 0, 0, 0664, "card%d", unit); + cbb_dev_t->si_drv1 = sc; + return (0); err: if (sc->irq_res) @@ -913,10 +1019,14 @@ status = cbb_get(sc, CBB_SOCKET_STATE); mtx_lock(&Giant); - if ((status & CBB_SOCKET_STAT_CD) == 0) - cbb_insert(sc); - else + if ((status & CBB_SOCKET_STAT_CD) == 0) { + if (!(sc->flags & CBB_INACTIVATE)) { + cbb_insert(sc); + } + } else { + sc->flags &= ~CBB_INACTIVATE; cbb_removal(sc); + } mtx_unlock(&Giant); /* @@ -995,6 +1105,7 @@ else if ((!(sc->flags & CBB_16BIT_CARD)) && sc->cbdev != NULL) CARD_DETACH_CARD(sc->cbdev, DETACH_FORCE); cbb_destroy_res(sc); + sc->flags &= ~CBB_CARD_OK; } /************************************************************************/ @@ -1918,7 +2029,10 @@ cbb_setb(sc, CBB_SOCKET_MASK, CBB_SOCKET_MASK_CD); /* Force us to go query the socket state */ - cbb_setb(sc, CBB_SOCKET_FORCE, CBB_SOCKET_EVENT_CD); + mtx_lock(&sc->mtx); + sc->flags &= ~CBB_CARD_OK; + cv_signal(&sc->cv); + mtx_unlock(&sc->mtx); error = bus_generic_resume(self); Index: pccbbvar.h =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/dev/pccbb/pccbbvar.h,v retrieving revision 1.15 diff -u -r1.15 pccbbvar.h --- pccbbvar.h 7 Oct 2002 23:11:29 -0000 1.15 +++ pccbbvar.h 28 Oct 2002 15:31:17 -0000 @@ -65,6 +65,7 @@ struct mtx mtx; struct cv cv; u_int32_t flags; +#define CBB_INACTIVATE 0x04000000 #define CBB_CARD_OK 0x08000000 #define CBB_KLUDGE_ALLOC 0x10000000 #define CBB_16BIT_CARD 0x20000000 -- Mark Santcroos RIPE Network Coordination Centre http://www.ripe.net/home/mark/ New Projects Group/TTM From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 6 02:19:30 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8291E37B401 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 02:19:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atos.sr.se (atos.sr.se [192.121.194.132]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F36943FBD for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 02:19:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gunnar@oldie.sr.se) Received: from honken.sr.se (honken.sr.se [134.25.128.27]) by atos.sr.se (8.12.6p2/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h469JRsL007682 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 11:19:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gunnar@oldie.sr.se) Received: from oldie.sr.se (oldie [134.25.200.100]) by honken.sr.se (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h469JRVT089113 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 11:19:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gunnar@oldie.sr.se) Received: from oldie.sr.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oldie.sr.se (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h469JRG1055184 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 11:19:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gunnar@oldie.sr.se) Received: (from gunnar@localhost) by oldie.sr.se (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h469JQbs055183 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Tue, 6 May 2003 11:19:26 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 11:19:26 +0200 From: Gunnar Flygt To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030506091906.GE53225@sr.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Current, ACPI and my Compac EVO N800c X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gunnar Flygt List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 09:19:30 -0000 Hello! Things are getting better as far as ACPI support in CURRENT and my ol' Compaq NEVO800c concerns. Now the dmesg looks as follows: Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Mon May 5 15:42:32 CEST 2003 root@pooh.sr.se:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/POOH Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0xc05aa000. Preloaded elf module "/boot/kernel/snd_ich.ko" at 0xc05aa1f4. Preloaded elf module "/boot/kernel/snd_pcm.ko" at 0xc05aa2a0. Preloaded elf module "/boot/kernel/acpi.ko" at 0xc05aa34c. Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1794187564 Hz CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 Mobile CPU 1.80GHz (1794.19-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf24 Stepping = 4 Features=0x3febf9ff real memory = 536674304 (511 MB) avail memory = 515108864 (491 MB) Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard pcibios: BIOS version 2.10 acpi_bus_number: root bus has no _BBN, assuming 0 acpi_bus_number: can't get _ADR acpi_bus_number: can't get _ADR acpi_bus_number: root bus has no _BBN, assuming 0 acpi_bus_number: can't get _ADR acpi_bus_number: can't get _ADR acpi_bus_number: root bus has no _BBN, assuming 0 acpi_bus_number: can't get _ADR acpi_bus_number: can't get _ADR acpi_bus_number: root bus has no _BBN, assuming 0 acpi_bus_number: can't get _ADR acpi_bus_number: can't get _ADR acpi0: power button is handled as a fixed feature programming model. Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0 acpi_cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_tz0: on acpi0 acpi_tz1: on acpi0 acpi_tz2: on acpi0 acpi_acad0: on acpi0 sio0 port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 port 0x3e8-0x3ef irq 3 drq 3 on acpi0 sio1: type 16550A Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec IPsec: Initialized Security Association Processing. acpi_cpu: throttling enabled, 8 steps (100% to 12.5%), currently 100.0% Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a setrootbyname failed ffs_mountroot: can't find rootvp Root mount failed: 6 Manual root filesystem specification: : Mount using filesystem eg. ufs:da0s1a ? List valid disk boot devices Abort manual input mountroot> panic: Root mount failed, startup aborted. So it gets a lot longer in the process. I don't know if anyone has any use of this to make the ACPI work even better with Compaq laptops, but here it is anyway. I also got a mail from Bakul Shah who had made it work with some tweaked Linux code that he loaded in /boot/loader.conf But if that works (as he say it does) Then it should be integrated into FreeBSD-CURRENT! Or? -- Gunnar Flygt OPC Data Swedish Radio AB From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 6 03:02:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A74637B404 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 03:02:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from devil.stderror.at (at00d01-adsl-194-118-044-149.nextranet.at [194.118.44.149]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBB8543FB1 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 03:02:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pinhead@stderror.at) Received: by devil.stderror.at (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DB1E315253; Tue, 6 May 2003 12:02:20 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 12:02:20 +0200 From: Toni Schmidbauer To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030506100220.GF32518@devil.stderror.at> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fwqqG+mf3f7vyBCB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: toni@stderror.at List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 10:02:26 -0000 --fwqqG+mf3f7vyBCB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, May 05, 2003 at 05:43:27PM -0400, Jesse D. Guardiani wrote: > I'm in the market for a new laptop to replace > my developer workstation. >=20 > I've seen a ton of great looking laptops out > there lately, but I know from experience that > when running UNIX, you buy the hardware for > the OS, not the other way around. >=20 > I'm just wondering if the list can make some > recommendations that might fit my needs. this might also help: http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/ toni --=20 Behandle die Menschen, als w=E4ren sie, was sie sein | toni at stderror dot= at sollten, und du wirst ihnen helfen, zu werden, was | Toni Schmidbauer sie sein k=F6nnen. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe | --fwqqG+mf3f7vyBCB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+t4gru/mjSj7RMocRArFwAJ9jYlRYteyFQ9VVsB1kBdmbZ6sMWACdFbka U9bGJKOrHehCZOCz7+of12w= =BU7F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fwqqG+mf3f7vyBCB-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 6 03:22:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A3A837B401; Tue, 6 May 2003 03:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F11AB43FA3; Tue, 6 May 2003 03:22:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely9.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h46ALprN077985 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Tue, 6 May 2003 12:21:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely9.cicely.de) Received: from cicely9.cicely.de (cicely9.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:210:5aff:fe30:1c1a]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h46ALn0j070570 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 6 May 2003 12:21:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely9.cicely.de) Received: from cicely9.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely9.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h46ALmtA083620; Tue, 6 May 2003 12:21:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely9.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely9.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h46ALlg0083619; Tue, 6 May 2003 12:21:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 12:21:45 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Maksim Yevmenkin Message-ID: <20030506102144.GS63639@cicely9.cicely.de> References: <3EB69929.1070900@cw.com> <20030505171500.74191.qmail@web40305.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030505171500.74191.qmail@web40305.mail.yahoo.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely9.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT alpha User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i cc: Doug Barton cc: mobile@freebsd.org cc: Tobias Roth Subject: Re: uhub2: device problem (was: Bluetooth stack for FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 10:22:03 -0000 On Mon, May 05, 2003 at 10:15:00AM -0700, Maksim Yevmenkin wrote: > Hello, > > > > So that's why my mouse quit working! Yes, I think this should be fixed > > > prior to 5.1 as well. > > > > Definitely :-) > > > > So, do you take care of this or should we/I who had to do with this > > problem lately do so? > > > > I know some people collected a lot of debug output and took it to the > > current ml, but without much luck or response from the usb specialists > > (please correct me if I am wrong here and missed anything). I am a bit > > at a loss concerning how to proceed. > > well, after looking more into the w2k dumps i put at > > http://www.geocities.com/m_evmenkin/usb/ Which file of these is it? I wasn't aware of any available w2k dumps - and FreeBSD dumps only show a broken device while I would like to see a workaround. > i found out that w2k resets USB port twice when new device is attached. > why? is it just w2k thing or it is some kind of workaround? any USB guru > care to comment? That's great news - until now I had no single idea on how to handle such broken hardware. Sounds like a possible way to go. Once I know which file to look into (a pointer to a line number would be nice too :) I will check on how to implement this workaround. -- B.Walter BWCT http://www.bwct.de ticso@bwct.de info@bwct.de From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 6 09:02:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCF9537B401 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 09:02:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C06143FDF for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 09:02:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19D4q6-0000T5-00 for ; Tue, 06 May 2003 17:58:46 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19D4ng-0000ED-00 for ; Tue, 06 May 2003 17:56:16 +0200 From: "Jesse D. Guardiani" Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 11:57:38 -0400 Organization: WingNET Internet Services Lines: 117 Message-ID: References: <20030505223531.6B6755D04@ptavv.es.net> <3EB74DAB.7000705@katherinehouse.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.1 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 16:02:53 -0000 andrew morton wrote: > Jesse D. Guardiani wrote: >>>One possible is an IBM ThinkPad A31p. 2 GHz, 15", 1600x1200, does almost >>>everything you ask, but has broken ACPI and ATI Mobility FireGL >>>graphics. APM works VERY well, so ACPI is not too important. You do need >>>the DOS based ps2 utility to set it up, though. (Ugh.) IBM supplies the >>>floppy images for this. Not really pretty, but rugged and reliable. >>>Heavy. Over well 7 pounds or 3 kilos. Awesome display! >> >> IBMs seem a bit overpriced and underfeatured to me. Still, if that is >> the best suggestion I get, then I might give it a try. > > I'm going to put in a vote for IBM. They maybe a bit more expensive but > they build very solid hardware. I've got an A21e with 2+ years of very > rough usage (it goes everywhere with me) and it works like a champ. The > only problems are cosmetic (cracked the plastic on the case) and after > reading Jason Hunt's comments on the ease of getting parts I'm ready to > call up IBM and order a new case. Here are the systems I am considering currently. The Dell comes with a wireless router and Bluetooth, but it doesn't have the VAIO's screen size, and the IBM is entirely too expensive and doesn't include a DVD burner: ------------------------------------------ Sony VAIO GRX700 series for $2339.99 ------------------------------------------ 16.1" UXGA screen (1600x1200) Pentium 4 M 1.8Ghz 512MB DDR SDRAM 40Gb HD DVD+RW/CD-RW 3 yr warranty ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 32Mb VRAM Free 802.11b Wireless LAN PC Card by mail The only thing that concerns me about the VAIO is the 32Mb of RAM for a 1600x1200 screen... and the unknown of whether or not the Wireless LAN PC Card and DVD-RW would be supported. In comparison, I can get: -------------------------------------------------------------- Dell Inspiron 8500 series for $2552 before $200 mail in rebate -------------------------------------------------------------- 15.4" SXGA+ screen (1680x1050) Pentium 4 M 2.0Ghz 512MB DDR SDRAM 40 Gb HD CD-R/DVD-RW (not sure if that is a CD-RW or not) 3 yr "limited" warranty (mail in) 64 Mb GeForce 4 4200 Dell Truemobile 1300 WLAN 802.11 b/g (54 Mbps) miniPCI card Dell Truemobile 1184 Wireless Broadband Router Dell Truemobile 300 Bluetooth Internal Card Free Carrying Case (Nylon) Not sure whether or not the above wireless stuff would work under FreeBSD 5.0 or not. Does FreeBSD know how to burn DVDs?? If not, then I could save $200 more. And finally, with expensive IBM I could get: ------------------------------- IBM A31p ThinkPad for $2,811.60 ------------------------------- 15.0" UXGA screen (1600x1200) Pentium 4 M 2Ghz (512kb L2 cache) 512Mb DDR SDRAM 40 Gb HD CD-RW/DVD-R Integrated Wi-Fi wireless and Bluetooth combo 3 yr onsite repair warranty 64 Mb ATI Mobility FireGL 7800 7.1-7.7 And I think Kevin Oberman already said that the ATI Mobility FireGL card isn't supported. This laptop is too much $$$ for me anyway. If I wanted to spend $3000 I would buy a Mac. > > While I'm at it I'll bash Dell real quick. In my experience and based on > an unscientific survey of posts to the list I'd say Dell tends to be a > good deal but you'll probably end up with warranty issues. I noticed that Dell's warranty isn't nearly as solid as IBM's. However, I'd rather have my hardware work and have to fight to get something fixed than pay through my teeth and have unsupported hardware. Dell's support has been decent to me in the past. > > Anyway good luck, > andrew > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 6 09:45:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 482A237B404 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 09:45:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web40310.mail.yahoo.com (web40310.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.78.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7010443F85 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 09:45:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from m_evmenkin@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030506164503.47600.qmail@web40310.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [165.193.27.35] by web40310.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 06 May 2003 09:45:03 PDT Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 09:45:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Maksim Yevmenkin To: ticso@cicely.de In-Reply-To: <20030506102144.GS63639@cicely9.cicely.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: Doug Barton cc: mobile@freebsd.org cc: Tobias Roth Subject: Re: uhub2: device problem (was: Bluetooth stack for FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 16:45:04 -0000 Hello Bernd [...] > > > I know some people collected a lot of debug output and took it to the > > > current ml, but without much luck or response from the usb specialists > > > (please correct me if I am wrong here and missed anything). I am a bit > > > at a loss concerning how to proceed. > > > > well, after looking more into the w2k dumps i put at > > > > http://www.geocities.com/m_evmenkin/usb/ > > Which file of these is it? USB_HUB.LOG - the hub in the docking station is attached to the root hub BT3C_USB.LOG - 3COM dongle is attached to the hub in the docking station > I wasn't aware of any available w2k dumps - and FreeBSD dumps only show > a broken device while I would like to see a workaround. 3COM dongle works fine in w2k and linux, so i got the dumps from w2k to see if there is obvious workaround. i'm still going though the dumps and linux USB code trying to understand what is different. > > i found out that w2k resets USB port twice when new device is attached. > > why? is it just w2k thing or it is some kind of workaround? any USB guru > > care to comment? > > That's great news - until now I had no single idea on how to handle > such broken hardware. > Sounds like a possible way to go. well, this "double reset" thing could be a "red herring". it could be the way windows USB stack works. here is what Anthony Naggs said to me This is how the Windows (all flavours) USB stack works: detects device arrival, signal reset on port, start reading device descriptors to find out device Class Id, Vendor & Model Id, etc... Each candidate driver found by the Plug'n'Play system is loaded: the driver signals another bus reset on the port, reads the device descriptors itself and decides whether it recognises the device. This continues until a driver recognises the device as one it supports, or all candidates drivers have been tried. here is the list of things on top of my head: 1) in w2k dumps i noticed that w2k checks USB port status after reset, i.e. the sequence is - set port feature RESET - check port status - clear port feature RESET - check port status 2) in linux code the hub interrupt transfer buffer is defined as #define USB_MAXCHILDREN (16) char buffer[(USB_MAXCHILDREN + 1 + 7) / 8]; /* add 1 bit for hub status change */ /* and add 7 bits to round up to byte boundary */ where in FreeBSD code u_int8_t sc_status[1]; /* XXX more ports */ 3) in linux code there are some quirks for PIIX4 /* * PIIX4 ACPI: Two IO regions pointed to by longwords at * 0x40 (64 bytes of ACPI registers) * 0x90 (32 bytes of SMB registers) */ static void __init quirk_piix4_acpi(struct pci_dev *dev) { u32 region; pci_read_config_dword(dev, 0x40, ®ion); quirk_io_region(dev, region, 64, PCI_BRIDGE_RESOURCES); pci_read_config_dword(dev, 0x90, ®ion); quirk_io_region(dev, region, 32, PCI_BRIDGE_RESOURCES+1); } of course everything above could be irrelevant. i now have another USB device (Belkin USB dognle) that works just fine with FreeBSD. it does not matter if i plug it directly into the laptop or in the hub in the docking station. i now have two datapoints for FreeBSD: 1) 3COM USB dongle (with CSR chip) - does not work in the docking station, but works if i plug it directly into the laptop 2) Belkin USB dongle (with Broadcom chip) - works in both configurations this soft of points to the device itself. but still does not explain why the device works in w2k and linux. > Once I know which file to look into (a pointer to a line number would be > nice too :) I will check on how to implement this workaround. USB hub port #2, line 338 (URB 14 going down) USB hub port #2, line 461 (URB 19 going down) these dumps are pretty easy to read, but i needed little "memory extension" in a form of pencil and paper :) thanks, max __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 6 09:58:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7165837B401 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 09:58:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postal1.es.net (postal1.es.net [198.128.3.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF47243FDD for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 09:58:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal1.es.net (Postal Node 1) with ESMTP id MUA74016; Tue, 06 May 2003 09:58:24 -0700 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 883185D04; Tue, 6 May 2003 09:58:23 -0700 (PDT) To: jesse@wingnet.net In-Reply-To: Message from "Jesse D. Guardiani" of "Tue, 06 May 2003 11:57:38 EDT." Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 09:58:23 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20030506165823.883185D04@ptavv.es.net> cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 16:58:25 -0000 > From: "Jesse D. Guardiani" > Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 11:57:38 -0400 > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > > ------------------------------- > IBM A31p ThinkPad for $2,811.60 > ------------------------------- > 15.0" UXGA screen (1600x1200) > Pentium 4 M 2Ghz (512kb L2 cache) > 512Mb DDR SDRAM > 40 Gb HD > CD-RW/DVD-R > Integrated Wi-Fi wireless and Bluetooth combo > 3 yr onsite repair warranty > 64 Mb ATI Mobility FireGL 7800 7.1-7.7 > > And I think Kevin Oberman already said that the ATI Mobility > FireGL card isn't supported. This laptop is too much $$$ for > me anyway. If I wanted to spend $3000 I would buy a Mac. No. My FireGL works fine, but does not like to turn on in high-resolution mode.(Easy but annoying work-around available.) But I have a T30, not an A31p, and I can't be sure about the A31p. According to IBM sales types (yes, their lips were moving), DVD burners will be available late this month or early in June. But it's still a very pricey box. I simply am addicted to the keyboards and the TrackPoint. I can get the TrackPoints on Dell and others, but the keyboard is an IBM only thing. I don't think a laptop is "ideal" without that IBM keyboard. (But nobody else might agree with my opinion.) R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 6 10:40:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D77A137B401 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 10:40:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A60E343FAF for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 10:40:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19D6Ob-0000Mg-00 for ; Tue, 06 May 2003 19:38:29 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19D6Nu-0000Iy-00 for ; Tue, 06 May 2003 19:37:46 +0200 From: mc@hack.org Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 19:39:09 +0200 Organization: Temple of the Moby Hack Lines: 20 Message-ID: <87brygq8jm.fsf@fuckup.hack.org> References: <20030505223531.6B6755D04@ptavv.es.net> <3EB74DAB.7000705@katherinehouse.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org X-URL: http://hack.org/~mc/ X-Waved: Chicken (dead). Curse all those damn UCE bots! User-Agent: Gnus/5.1001 (Gnus v5.10.1) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:cfmM1XIXgAF/IQMbmU5aPKqJPMs= Sender: news Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 17:40:44 -0000 "Jesse D. Guardiani" writes: > Here are the systems I am considering currently. The Dell comes with a > wireless router and Bluetooth, but it doesn't have the VAIO's screen size, > and the IBM is entirely too expensive and doesn't include a DVD > burner Earlier you stated that you are a developer, so I can't really understand why you need a DVD burner on your laptop. I've been perfectly happy with the very thin and light Thinkpad 570s and X20s myself, neither of which have any DVD burner, nor any DVD or CD ROM drive, or, indeed, any built in disk drive what so ever. What's the need if you're a developer? Perhaps it would help if you told us what /kind/ of developer you are? If I was to shop around for a new laptop right now, I would most likely go with a Thinkpad X30 or X31, the younger brother of my older systems. Very thin, very light (~1.4 kg), awesome battery life and an incredibly good keyboard, especially for a laptop. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 6 10:41:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9619C37B401 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 10:41:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.1.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C3743F85 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 10:41:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jester@panix.com) Received: from panix2.panix.com (panix2.panix.com [166.84.1.2]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5639495CF for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 13:41:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jester@localhost) by panix2.panix.com (8.11.6p2/8.8.8/PanixN1.0) id h46HfXR25150 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Tue, 6 May 2003 13:41:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 13:41:33 -0400 From: Jesse Sheidlower To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030506174133.GA23816@panix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Sound/kernel problems on ThinkPad X23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 17:41:35 -0000 I just updated my ThinkPad X23 from FreeBSD 4.7-RC to 4.8; I had previously not had sound compiled into my kernel. The update itself went fine, but during the boot process I ran into a wall as follows: pci0: (vendor=0x8086, dev=0x2483) at 31.3 irq 11 pcm0: irq 11 at device 31.5 on pci0 pcm0: unable to map IO port space device_probe_and_attach: pcm0 attach returned 6 At which point it completely freezes to the point where I have to pull the battery to reboot and swap back to the original kernel. Can someone tell me (a) how to fix this, and also preferably (b) how to get sound working? Thanks very much. Jesse Sheidlower From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 6 11:01:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 023CD37B401 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 11:01:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D30F43FA3 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 11:01:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19D6jK-0002Bg-00 for ; Tue, 06 May 2003 19:59:54 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19D6jJ-0002BX-00 for ; Tue, 06 May 2003 19:59:53 +0200 From: "Jesse D. Guardiani" Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 14:01:16 -0400 Organization: WingNET Internet Services Lines: 73 Message-ID: References: <20030505223531.6B6755D04@ptavv.es.net> <3EB74DAB.7000705@katherinehouse.com> <87brygq8jm.fsf@fuckup.hack.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.1 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 18:01:20 -0000 mc@hack.org wrote: > "Jesse D. Guardiani" writes: > >> Here are the systems I am considering currently. The Dell comes with a >> wireless router and Bluetooth, but it doesn't have the VAIO's screen >> size, and the IBM is entirely too expensive and doesn't include a DVD >> burner > > Earlier you stated that you are a developer, so I can't really > understand why you need a DVD burner on your laptop. One word: Backup. It would be nice to burn photo DVDs too. I have a Kodak DC3400 digital camera and over 2G of jpg photos right now. CDROMs can't store enough. > > I've been perfectly happy with the very thin and light Thinkpad 570s > and X20s myself, neither of which have any DVD burner, nor any DVD or > CD ROM drive, or, indeed, any built in disk drive what so ever. What's > the need if you're a developer? Perhaps it would help if you told us > what /kind/ of developer you are? I don't see how that is important, but I am a software developer. I develop software for various server systems using C, C++, Python, Perl, etc... etc... I also administrate a number of server systems. I _could_ get by with a much lighter laptop, but I don't want to. I want to replace my desktop with this laptop, and it has always been my experience that buying the most powerful laptop I can afford generally keeps me satisfied for the longest amount of time. I don't travel much, but when I do, 10 lbs isn't a burden. My son is more than 25 lbs and I lug his little butt around with me all the time. > > If I was to shop around for a new laptop right now, I would most > likely go with a Thinkpad X30 or X31, the younger brother of my older > systems. Very thin, very light (~1.4 kg), awesome battery life and an > incredibly good keyboard, especially for a laptop. Yes, the keyboard is important. I'm going to have to take a trip to Circuit City and do some play typing to figure out if I can live with a Sony's keyboard. Too bad Dell doesn't have a retail store nearby. If I fall in love with an IBM, then I may just have to wait a few months for the prices to go down and DVD burners to become available or something... Battery life is low low low on my list. I'll probably be jacking into the wall everywhere I go. I only need the battery to last between stops. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 6 11:20:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3AF537B401 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 11:20:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D375A43F75 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 11:20:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19D71E-0003fh-00 for ; Tue, 06 May 2003 20:18:24 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19D716-0003f7-00 for ; Tue, 06 May 2003 20:18:16 +0200 From: mc@hack.org Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 20:19:39 +0200 Organization: Temple of the Moby Hack Lines: 50 Message-ID: <87llxkos3o.fsf@fuckup.hack.org> References: <20030505223531.6B6755D04@ptavv.es.net> <3EB74DAB.7000705@katherinehouse.com> <87brygq8jm.fsf@fuckup.hack.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org X-URL: http://hack.org/~mc/ X-Waved: Chicken (dead). Curse all those damn UCE bots! User-Agent: Gnus/5.1001 (Gnus v5.10.1) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:f2CdMZILxjkLPadpSeil5ZbUHhg= Sender: news Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 18:20:48 -0000 "Jesse D. Guardiani" writes: > One word: Backup. I see. I use rsync over SSH myself to synchronize my home directory on the laptop with my home directory on the fileserver whenever I get to a decent network connection. It's a pretty fast and pretty simple solution. > It would be nice to burn photo DVDs too. I have a Kodak DC3400 > digital camera and over 2G of jpg photos right now. CDROMs can't > store enough. Ah. I don't have that problem myself. Do you use this at work much? If not, perhaps you should look into buying another machine for home use instead? >> Perhaps it would help if you told us what /kind/ of developer you >> are? > > I don't see how that is important, but I am a software developer. > I develop software for various server systems using C, C++, Python, > Perl, etc... etc... I asked because I guess it /would/ matter if you, for instance, did some very heavy graphics work, doing stuff in, say, VRML, OpenGL or something else I have no knowledge of. Presumably, people who are developing support for these things might need different hardware than your avarage kernel hacker. > I want to replace my desktop with this laptop I have used my Thinkpads exclusively for the last three or four years. I don't travel much either, but when I do, I might do it at a moment's notice and I want to keep my workstation with me. > My son is more than 25 lbs and I lug his little butt around with me > all the time. Heh... I'm glad my own sons (eight and ten years old) walk by themselves. > If I fall in love with an IBM, then I may just have to wait a few > months for the prices to go down and DVD burners to become available > or something... At least in Sweden, where I currently reside, the Thinkpad X series aren't that expensive. You should check it out. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 6 11:39:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99F2337B401 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 11:39:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com (msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com [192.25.240.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 022A043FBF for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 11:39:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from darrylo@soco.agilent.com) Received: from relcos1.cos.agilent.com (relcos1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.239]) by msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A1E160F2; Tue, 6 May 2003 12:39:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by relcos1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DBA4566; Tue, 6 May 2003 12:39:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) SMKit7.1.1_Agilent) with ESMTP id LAA02360; Tue, 6 May 2003 11:39:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200305061839.LAA02360@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: jesse@wingnet.net In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 06 May 2003 14:01:16 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 11:39:27 -0700 From: Darryl Okahata cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Darryl Okahata List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 18:39:32 -0000 "Jesse D. Guardiani" wrote: > If I fall in love with an IBM, then I may just have to wait a few > months for the prices to go down and DVD burners to become available > or something... What about external DVD-RW drives? (Well, I guess you'll have problems with support under FreeBSD.) If you can wait a few months, you might want to look at Techbargains each day: http://www.techbargains.com Back in January, I found a killer deal on a Thinkpad there. Decent laptop deals seem to appear every few months. (However, you've got to be careful and look at all the angles and fine print -- not everything there is a deal, IMO.) -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 6 11:48:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C7C137B401 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 11:48:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from purple.nge.isi.edu (wireless249.east.isi.edu [65.123.202.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C15443F75 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 11:48:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from csp@csperkins.org) Received: from purple.nge.isi.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by purple.nge.isi.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h46ImaIs065467; Tue, 6 May 2003 14:48:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from csp@purple.nge.isi.edu) To: Jesse Sheidlower In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 06 May 2003 13:41:33 EDT." <20030506174133.GA23816@panix.com> Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 14:48:36 -0400 Message-ID: <65466.1052246916@purple.nge.isi.edu> From: Colin Perkins cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sound/kernel problems on ThinkPad X23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 18:48:44 -0000 --> Jesse Sheidlower writes: > >I just updated my ThinkPad X23 from FreeBSD 4.7-RC to 4.8; >I had previously not had sound compiled into my kernel. > >The update itself went fine, but during the boot process >I ran into a wall as follows: > >pci0: (vendor=0x8086, dev=0x2483) at 31.3 irq 11 >pcm0: irq 11 at device 31.5 on pci0 >pcm0: unable to map IO port space >device_probe_and_attach: pcm0 attach returned 6 > >At which point it completely freezes to the point where I >have to pull the battery to reboot and swap back to the >original kernel. > >Can someone tell me (a) how to fix this, and also preferably >(b) how to get sound working? You might try adding "options PCI_ENABLE_IO_MODES" to your kernel config. I need this to make the sound work on my X22. Cheers, Colin From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 6 11:58:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE53337B401 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 11:58:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.lambertfam.org (www.lambertfam.org [216.223.208.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C3E43F75 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 11:58:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lambert@lambertfam.org) Received: from laptop.lambertfam.org (laptop.int.lambertfam.org [10.1.0.2]) by mail.lambertfam.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E35B534D1F for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 14:58:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by laptop.lambertfam.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4E4608240; Tue, 6 May 2003 14:58:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 14:58:16 -0400 From: Scott Lambert To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030506185816.GA39175@laptop.lambertfam.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <20030505223531.6B6755D04@ptavv.es.net> <3EB74DAB.7000705@katherinehouse.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 18:58:29 -0000 On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 11:57:38AM -0400, Jesse D. Guardiani wrote: > andrew morton wrote: > > > Jesse D. Guardiani wrote: > >>>One possible is an IBM ThinkPad A31p. 2 GHz, 15", 1600x1200, does almost > >>>everything you ask, but has broken ACPI and ATI Mobility FireGL > >>>graphics. APM works VERY well, so ACPI is not too important. You do need > >>>the DOS based ps2 utility to set it up, though. (Ugh.) IBM supplies the > >>>floppy images for this. Not really pretty, but rugged and reliable. > >>>Heavy. Over well 7 pounds or 3 kilos. Awesome display! > >> > >> IBMs seem a bit overpriced and underfeatured to me. Still, if that is > >> the best suggestion I get, then I might give it a try. > > > > I'm going to put in a vote for IBM. They maybe a bit more expensive but > > they build very solid hardware. I've got an A21e with 2+ years of very > > rough usage (it goes everywhere with me) and it works like a champ. The > > only problems are cosmetic (cracked the plastic on the case) and after > > reading Jason Hunt's comments on the ease of getting parts I'm ready to > > call up IBM and order a new case. > > Here are the systems I am considering currently. The Dell comes with a > wireless router and Bluetooth, but it doesn't have the VAIO's screen size, > and the IBM is entirely too expensive and doesn't include a DVD burner: > > ------------------------------------------ > Sony VAIO GRX700 series for $2339.99 > ------------------------------------------ > 16.1" UXGA screen (1600x1200) > Pentium 4 M 1.8Ghz > 512MB DDR SDRAM > 40Gb HD > DVD+RW/CD-RW > 3 yr warranty > ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 32Mb VRAM > Free 802.11b Wireless LAN PC Card by mail > > The only thing that concerns me about the VAIO is the 32Mb > of RAM for a 1600x1200 screen... and the unknown of whether > or not the Wireless LAN PC Card and DVD-RW would be supported. > > > In comparison, I can get: > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Dell Inspiron 8500 series for $2552 before $200 mail in rebate > -------------------------------------------------------------- > 15.4" SXGA+ screen (1680x1050) > Pentium 4 M 2.0Ghz > 512MB DDR SDRAM > 40 Gb HD > CD-R/DVD-RW (not sure if that is a CD-RW or not) > 3 yr "limited" warranty (mail in) > 64 Mb GeForce 4 4200 > Dell Truemobile 1300 WLAN 802.11 b/g (54 Mbps) miniPCI card > Dell Truemobile 1184 Wireless Broadband Router > Dell Truemobile 300 Bluetooth Internal Card > Free Carrying Case (Nylon) > > > Not sure whether or not the above wireless stuff would > work under FreeBSD 5.0 or not. Does FreeBSD know how to > burn DVDs?? If not, then I could save $200 more. ------------------------------------------- Apple 15" PowerBook w/Superdrive $2,799.00 ------------------------------------------- 15.2" TFT screen (1280x854) PowerPC G4 1.0 GHz (Supposedly about as fast as your 2.0 GHz P4s) 1MB L3 Cache 512MB SDRAM 60GB Ultra ATA/66 SuperDrive (DVD-R/CD-RW) 64MB DDR ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 Gig Ethernet FireWire 400 2 12Mbps USB ports AirPort card built-in. 5 hour battery... (all the power management goodies work.) 5.4 pounds. 1 yr warranty, 3 yr is $349 extra. (that sucks) iPhoto, iTunes, iMovie, iDVD. (you won't get that level of operability with FreeBSD). Ships with Unix under the hood. :-) I, personally, drool every time my co-worker pulls his older 800MHz 15" out of the bag. If you drop in at your local Apple Store, you might find a "refreshed" unit for 10% off. That would bring you down to $2,519.10. Smalldog.com has the factory "refreshed" units for $2,499.00. I only see two downsides. If you want to develop FreeBSD code, VirtualPC is probably a bit slow for that. But for just *nix development it should work. I hate trackpads. Buildworld of 5.x took my co-worker 20 something hours inside VirtualPC. I don't know that he turned off the powersave stuff before starting the buildworld. No personal experience with the G4 machines. My parents like their iBook. The blue G3 400MHz iMac on my desk is faster than my 650MHz Celeron Toshiba laptop. Not a lot faster but, faster. They both have the same amount of RAM and VRAM. Image scrolling of my 3.1MP digital camera photos is about 15 times faster on the iMac. The laptop has an 8MB S3 Savage/IX-MV. iPhoto can read the images directly from the camera. gPhoto2 on FreeBSD can't. > And finally, with expensive IBM I could get: > > ------------------------------- > IBM A31p ThinkPad for $2,811.60 > ------------------------------- > 15.0" UXGA screen (1600x1200) > Pentium 4 M 2Ghz (512kb L2 cache) > 512Mb DDR SDRAM > 40 Gb HD > CD-RW/DVD-R > Integrated Wi-Fi wireless and Bluetooth combo > 3 yr onsite repair warranty > 64 Mb ATI Mobility FireGL 7800 7.1-7.7 > > And I think Kevin Oberman already said that the ATI Mobility > FireGL card isn't supported. This laptop is too much $$$ for > me anyway. If I wanted to spend $3000 I would buy a Mac. > > > > > > > > > > While I'm at it I'll bash Dell real quick. In my experience and based on > > an unscientific survey of posts to the list I'd say Dell tends to be a > > good deal but you'll probably end up with warranty issues. > > I noticed that Dell's warranty isn't nearly as solid as IBM's. However, > I'd rather have my hardware work and have to fight to get something > fixed than pay through my teeth and have unsupported hardware. > > Dell's support has been decent to me in the past. > > > > > > > Anyway good luck, > > andrew > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- > Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator > WingNET Internet Services, > P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 > 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) > http://www.wingnet.net > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Scott Lambert KC5MLE Unix SysAdmin lambert@lambertfam.org From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 6 12:32:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E058A37B4CD for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 12:32:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail14.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A24643F3F for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 12:32:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 29149 invoked from network); 6 May 2003 19:32:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender )encrypted SMTP for ; 6 May 2003 19:32:45 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx ([216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h46JWap0001198; Tue, 6 May 2003 15:32:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.4 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 15:32:43 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Dermot McNally cc: Dermot McNally cc: "M. Warner Losh" cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org Subject: RE: Re[4]: Support for O2Micro Card Bridges? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 19:32:47 -0000 On 05-May-2003 Dermot McNally wrote: > > > On Mon, 5 May 2003, John Baldwin wrote: > >> >> On 02-May-2003 Dermot McNally wrote: > >> > Funny thing - that didn't work when I tried it originally. After >> > building a brand new installation, it now works. The box I set up for >> > you to test is still available, but acpidump seems to produce the >> > goods now. Here's you go. >> >> Ok, cool. Does this machine have the same error message >> from pcib0() about not a wrong resource type for _PRS? > > Yes - in fact it's the very same box, just with a different hard disk and > a fresh OS build. But clearly acpidump had improved a bit. The boot time > errors are the same, as is the lack of any PC-Card action. Grr, ok. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 6 12:39:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D469537B401 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 12:39:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail3.panix.com (mail3.panix.com [166.84.1.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2283643FA3 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 12:39:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jester@panix.com) Received: from panix2.panix.com (panix2.panix.com [166.84.1.2]) by mail3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AF06988CC; Tue, 6 May 2003 15:39:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jester@localhost) by panix2.panix.com (8.11.6p2/8.8.8/PanixN1.0) id h46Jdjh13529; Tue, 6 May 2003 15:39:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 15:39:45 -0400 From: Jesse Sheidlower To: Colin Perkins Message-ID: <20030506193944.GA12649@panix.com> References: <20030506174133.GA23816@panix.com> <65466.1052246916@purple.nge.isi.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <65466.1052246916@purple.nge.isi.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sound/kernel problems on ThinkPad X23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 19:39:49 -0000 On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 02:48:36PM -0400, Colin Perkins wrote: > --> Jesse Sheidlower writes: > > > >I just updated my ThinkPad X23 from FreeBSD 4.7-RC to 4.8; > >I had previously not had sound compiled into my kernel. > > > >The update itself went fine, but during the boot process > >I ran into a wall as follows: > > > >pci0: (vendor=0x8086, dev=0x2483) at 31.3 irq 11 > >pcm0: irq 11 at device 31.5 on pci0 > >pcm0: unable to map IO port space > >device_probe_and_attach: pcm0 attach returned 6 > > > >At which point it completely freezes to the point where I > >have to pull the battery to reboot and swap back to the > >original kernel. > > > >Can someone tell me (a) how to fix this, and also preferably > >(b) how to get sound working? > > You might try adding "options PCI_ENABLE_IO_MODES" to your kernel config. > I need this to make the sound work on my X22. Yup, that did it. Thanks very much! So what MP3 player does everyone like? ;-) Best, Jesse Sheidlower From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 6 13:05:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB4F37B401 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 13:05:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ohsmtp03.ogw.rr.com (ohsmtp03.ogw.rr.com [65.24.7.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3280143FBF for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 13:05:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chops@cinci.rr.com) Received: from cinci.rr.com (cvg-27-164-225.cinci.rr.com [24.27.164.225]) by ohsmtp03.ogw.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h46K5k6E026599 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 16:05:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3EB81597.3030706@cinci.rr.com> Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 16:05:43 -0400 From: Mike B User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030429 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mobile@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: cardbus on toshiba satellite X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 20:05:49 -0000 Hi, I'm having trouble getting pcmcia to work on my toshiba satellite 1905-s301 with Freebsd 5.0. In my kernel I have this #device cbb # cardbus (yenta) bridge #device pcic # ExCA ISA and PCI bridges device pccard # PC Card (16-bit) bus device cardbus # CardBus (32-bit) bus if I enable cbb then I get a torrent of messages outputted to the console that look like cbb # where # is either 1 or 2. These messages stream as fast as the eye can see. Also, if I don't compile cbb in the kernel and then do 'kldload cbb' I have the same problem. If I have cbb enabled and insert a pcmcia card of any kind, it instantly locks the system up. Does anybody have any suggestions as to what the problem may be. Thanks in advance, Mike B chops@cinci.rr.com From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 6 13:55:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B8E37B401 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 13:55:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1A5543F85 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 13:55:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19D9NG-0006pU-00 for ; Tue, 06 May 2003 22:49:18 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19D9GL-0006E4-00 for ; Tue, 06 May 2003 22:42:09 +0200 From: "Jesse D. Guardiani" Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 16:43:32 -0400 Organization: WingNET Internet Services Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <20030505223531.6B6755D04@ptavv.es.net> <3EB74DAB.7000705@katherinehouse.com> <20030506185816.GA39175@laptop.lambertfam.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.1 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 20:55:52 -0000 Scott Lambert wrote: > On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 11:57:38AM -0400, Jesse D. Guardiani wrote: >> andrew morton wrote: > > ------------------------------------------- > Apple 15" PowerBook w/Superdrive $2,799.00 > ------------------------------------------- > Dude, you don't have to convince me! My boss recently bought a new 17" Powerbook G4. I played with it. I love it. But I'm not that loaded. Too rich for my blood. -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 6 14:54:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3314137B401 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 14:54:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25C4E43FA3 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 14:54:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19DAMv-0003W2-00 for ; Tue, 06 May 2003 23:53:01 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19DAM5-0003Rg-00 for ; Tue, 06 May 2003 23:52:09 +0200 From: "Jesse D. Guardiani" Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 17:53:32 -0400 Organization: WingNET Internet Services Lines: 16 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.1 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Dell Truemobile 1300 WLAN 802.11 miniPCI card X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 21:54:29 -0000 Howdy list, Does anyone know if 5.0 support this card? I don't know if it's a totally new chipset, or a combination with the old Lucent chipset that used to be in the truemobile 1150 that IS supported... Anyone tried it? I know the 802.11g won't work, but I thought there might be a chance that the 802.11b might. -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 6 15:45:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8469937B401 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 15:45:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns3.safety.net (ns3.safety.net [216.40.201.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFD5C43F3F for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 15:45:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cbiffle@safety.net) Received: from localhost (rs.rackshack.net.safety.net [216.40.201.32]) by ns3.safety.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h46Mj8A21485; Tue, 6 May 2003 15:45:08 -0700 From: "Cliff L. Biffle" To: jesse@wingnet.net, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 15:45:09 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305061545.09500.cbiffle@safety.net> Subject: Re: Dell Truemobile 1300 WLAN 802.11 miniPCI card X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 22:45:13 -0000 On Tuesday 06 May 2003 02:53 pm, Jesse D. Guardiani wrote: > Does anyone know if 5.0 support this card? I don't know > if it's a totally new chipset, or a combination with the > old Lucent chipset that used to be in the truemobile 1150 > that IS supported... > > Anyone tried it? I know the 802.11g won't work, but I > thought there might be a chance that the 802.11b might. >From Google: The TrueMobile 1300 is a 54g(TM) wireless LAN mini-PCI card based on Broadcom's BCM4306/BCM2050 chipset, and D-Family notebooks with this card are Wi-Fi CERTIFIED(TM) for IEEE 802.11b interoperability. The TrueMobile(R) 1400 is an 802.11a/g wireless LAN mini-PCI card based on the BCM4309/ BCM2050 /BCM2060 chipset, and D-Family notebooks with this card are Wi-Fi CERTIFIED for IEEE 802.11a and IEEE 802.11b interoperability. I don't believe this chip is supported. I may be wrong. -Cliff L. Biffle From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 6 16:11:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F190D37B401 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 16:11:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2.enst.fr (matrix2.enst.fr [137.194.2.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AF0C43FB1 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 16:11:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cedric.ware@enst.fr) Received: from olympe.enst.fr (olympe.enst.fr [137.194.64.54]) by smtp2.enst.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E81C71F376 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 01:09:51 +0200 (MEST) Received: by olympe.enst.fr (Postfix, from userid 14110) id 5452910F95; Wed, 7 May 2003 01:09:51 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 01:09:50 +0200 From: Cedric Ware To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030506230950.GA19365@enst.fr> References: <20030505223531.6B6755D04@ptavv.es.net> <3EB74DAB.7000705@katherinehouse.com> <20030506185816.GA39175@laptop.lambertfam.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030506185816.GA39175@laptop.lambertfam.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 23:11:09 -0000 > Apple 15" PowerBook w/Superdrive $2,799.00 > ------------------------------------------- > 15.2" TFT screen (1280x854) > PowerPC G4 1.0 GHz (Supposedly about as fast as your 2.0 GHz P4s) [8<] > Ships with Unix under the hood. :-) I, personally, drool every time my > co-worker pulls his older 800MHz 15" out of the bag. Yeah, me too, especially as I've worked on several occasions on a small G3 iBook and found it adequate if slow. Except that I ran some benchmarks on a 800MHz G4 PowerBook, which I tought would be more or less typical for me: compile teTeX-2.0.2 and use it to typeset some documents; performance was disappointing, about 42 minutes for teTeX itself (vs. just over 5 on some Dell with a quarter the RAM and a 1800MHz P4-M), although typesetting took "only" half again as long as on the Dell. That's a quite limited benchmark, but it's not encouraging if you expect performance for a developer's usage. Nevertheless, these laptops might be the only ones where everything (APM, video, modem, Wi-Fi...) works seamlessly while they run UNIX. Still hoping someone proves me wrong, Cedric Ware. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 6 16:36:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 281E337B401 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 16:36:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from idiom.com (idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D8843F85 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 16:36:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ixian@idiom.com) Received: from idiom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by idiom.com (8.12.6p2/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h46NZs8Z055422; Tue, 6 May 2003 16:35:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ixian@idiom.com) Received: (from ixian@localhost) by idiom.com (8.12.6p2/8.12.6/Submit) id h46NZsHG055419; Tue, 6 May 2003 16:35:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ixian) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16056.18138.287510.281869@idiom.com> Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 16:35:54 -0700 From: Eric De Mund To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <87brygq8jm.fsf@fuckup.hack.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under Emacs 21.2.1 X-Humans-Reply-To: Eric De Mund X-URL: X-Mailer: GNU Emacs 21.2.1 (i386--freebsd) X-POM: The Moon is Waxing Crescent (26% of Full) Organization: Ixian Systems, Inc. Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eric De Mund List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 23:36:08 -0000 Hello, I don't recall the first requester's name, but, hello. I always ask people if they're going to be carrying the machine here and there or are, instead, going to be using it in one place. If the machine is going to be travelling back and forth to work or back and forth to school on a regular basis, I tell them to go down to their local mom-and-pop compu- ter repair place and talk to pop. Or mom. Have them tell you what brands and models you should avoid. And then ask them why. When I did this in 2000, I learned that Dell laptops and, to an even greater degree, Sony laptops were flimsy, flimsy, flimsy. They suffered a lot of internal breakage because the boxes were not solidly construct- ed. The manufacturers skimped on materials and strength, and the results were just what you'd expect: expensive repairs that just weren't possi- ble for the end-user to do himself. On the other end of the spectrum, IBM ThinkPads and Toshiba laptops were, according to pop, built like tanks. I ended up running with his recommendation, and bought a ThinkPad 600 2645-51U off of eBay (pop's used ThinkPads were a bit overpriced, but I buy enough stuff from him that he was ok sharing his advice with me gratis). I've enjoyed it, trouble-free, ever since. Regards, Eric p.s. Don't ask me how reliable or easy to use the trackpoint mouse is; I don't know. I hate it and don't use it. But I'm fair; I dislike touch- pads with equal fervor! I pack an optical mouse in the case, and always use that, instead. -- "Every program has at least one bug and can be shortened by at least one instruction--from which, by induction, one can deduce that every program can be reduced to one instruction which doesn't work." Eric De Mund | Ixian Systems, Inc. | 53 49 B2 23 AF 6C 20 81 http://www.ixian.com/ead/ | Mountain View, CA | ED DD 4C 81 AA C9 D1 A5 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 6 17:43:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25CA937B401 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 17:43:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bitblocks.com (bitblocks.com [209.204.185.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 791BA43FAF for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 17:43:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bakul@bitblocks.com) Received: from bitblocks.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bitblocks.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h470hhPF095578; Tue, 6 May 2003 17:43:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bakul@bitblocks.com) Message-Id: <200305070043.h470hhPF095578@bitblocks.com> To: Gunnar Flygt In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 06 May 2003 11:19:26 +0200." <20030506091906.GE53225@sr.se> Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 17:43:43 -0700 From: Bakul Shah cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Current, ACPI and my Compac EVO N800c X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 00:43:45 -0000 > I also got a mail from Bakul Shah who had made it work with some tweaked > Linux code that he loaded in /boot/loader.conf The only change in loader.conf is this: echo 'acpi_dsdt_load="YES"' >> /boot/loader.conf which says don't rely on system's ACPI table but load it from a file. > But if that works (as he say it does) Then it should be integrated into > FreeBSD-CURRENT! Or? There is nothing to integrate. Evo800c/Presario28xx have a badly broken ACPI table. I found a version on a Linux related site (see below) that *limps along* better but still not quite right. In particular, many things don't get reinitialized properly on wakeup from the suspend state. The only reason for using ACPI is to check the remaining battery time. Unfortunately apm does not give the same info on this laptop. URLs: http://www.dcc.ufmg.br/~ghuiban/compaq_presario_2805/files/dsdt.hex.gz http://www.dcc.ufmg.br/~ghuiban/compaq_presario_2805/linux.html From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 6 18:38:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF5C37B401 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 18:38:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 725AC43FA3 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 18:38:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from edhall@screech.weirdnoise.com) Received: from screech.weirdnoise.com (adsl-67-124-49-57.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [67.124.49.57]) h471cqPi003147; Tue, 6 May 2003 20:38:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from screech.weirdnoise.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h471b1SP021435; Tue, 6 May 2003 18:37:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from edhall@screech.weirdnoise.com) Message-Id: <200305070137.h471b1SP021435@screech.weirdnoise.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Darryl Okahata In-Reply-To: Message from Darryl Okahata <200305061839.LAA02360@mina.soco.agilent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 18:37:01 -0700 From: Ed Hall cc: jesse@wingnet.net cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 01:38:56 -0000 Darryl Okahata wrote: > "Jesse D. Guardiani" wrote: > > > If I fall in love with an IBM, then I may just have to wait a few > > months for the prices to go down and DVD burners to become available > > or something... > > What about external DVD-RW drives? (Well, I guess you'll have > problems with support under FreeBSD.) You won't have to wait if your laptop has firewire (and a controller FreeBSD supports). I use a Pioneer DVR-105 in a firewire-to-IDE case and it works flawlessly for burning and reading DVD-R/RW and CD-R/RW. > If you can wait a few months, you might want to look at > Techbargains each day: > > http://www.techbargains.com > > Back in January, I found a killer deal on a Thinkpad there. Decent > laptop deals seem to appear every few months. (However, you've got to > be careful and look at all the angles and fine print -- not everything > there is a deal, IMO.) I have an unremarkable Compaq 2700 which supports -STABLE pretty well, but barely runs -CURRENT. Little to recommend unless you're worried about your laptop blowing away in a windstorm; it's one of the heavier "laptops" around. -Ed edhall@weirdnoise.com > -- > Darryl Okahata > darrylo@soco.agilent.com > > DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not > constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or > of the little green men that have been following him all day. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 6 20:49:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5640237B401 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 20:49:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C9DB43FA3 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 20:49:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.8/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h473mLTl005348; Tue, 6 May 2003 21:48:21 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 21:45:25 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20030506.214525.116769884.imp@bsdimp.com> To: chops@cinci.rr.com From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <3EB81597.3030706@cinci.rr.com> References: <3EB81597.3030706@cinci.rr.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.2 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cardbus on toshiba satellite X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 03:49:26 -0000 In message: <3EB81597.3030706@cinci.rr.com> Mike B writes: : Hi, I'm having trouble getting pcmcia to work on my toshiba satellite : 1905-s301 with Freebsd 5.0. In my kernel I have this : : #device cbb # cardbus (yenta) bridge : #device pcic # ExCA ISA and PCI bridges : device pccard # PC Card (16-bit) bus : device cardbus # CardBus (32-bit) bus : : if I enable cbb then I get a torrent of messages outputted to the : console that look like : : cbb # : : where # is either 1 or 2. These messages stream as fast as the eye can see. Update. I botched a commit the other day and these were in there for a while. :-( They are gone now :-) Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 6 20:50:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B21937B401 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 20:50:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A2043F85 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 20:50:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.8/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h473oBTl005383; Tue, 6 May 2003 21:50:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 21:47:15 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20030506.214715.45225722.imp@bsdimp.com> To: jesse@wingnet.net From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.2 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dell Truemobile 1300 WLAN 802.11 miniPCI card X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 03:50:13 -0000 In message: "Jesse D. Guardiani" writes: : Anyone tried it? I know the 802.11g won't work, but I : thought there might be a chance that the 802.11b might. Chances are good the answer is no. It might change if it is the atheros trimode chipset. However, I don't think it is. The prism .g chipset isn't anywhwere near compatible with the wi driver in my experiments. Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 00:59:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DB7A37B401 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 00:59:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web13202.mail.yahoo.com (web13202.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.187]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 003DB43F3F for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 00:59:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sn7519@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030507075939.88989.qmail@web13202.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [219.95.3.71] by web13202.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 07 May 2003 00:59:39 PDT Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 00:59:39 -0700 (PDT) From: sn To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: AT76C503A device deiver for FreeBSD ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 07:59:40 -0000 Hi I noticed there are device driver for linux for this device . is there any FreeBSD driver for this device ? thanks . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 06:33:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B403237B401 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 06:33:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6655E43F75 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 06:33:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19DP1n-0000eq-00 for ; Wed, 07 May 2003 15:32:11 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19DP1j-0000eS-00 for ; Wed, 07 May 2003 15:32:07 +0200 From: "Jesse D. Guardiani" Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 09:33:30 -0400 Organization: WingNET Internet Services Lines: 52 Message-ID: References: <87brygq8jm.fsf@fuckup.hack.org> <16056.18138.287510.281869@idiom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.1 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 13:33:40 -0000 Eric De Mund wrote: > Hello, > > I don't recall the first requester's name, but, hello. I always ask > people if they're going to be carrying the machine here and there or > are, instead, going to be using it in one place. If the machine is going > to be travelling back and forth to work or back and forth to school on a > regular basis, I tell them to go down to their local mom-and-pop compu- > ter repair place and talk to pop. Or mom. I really don't know of a single "mom-and-pop" place around here that sells laptops. In my experience older folks are terrified of the things. Truthfully, I don't know anyone around here that sells IBMs either. > Have them tell you what brands > and models you should avoid. And then ask them why. > > When I did this in 2000, I learned that Dell laptops and, to an even > greater degree, Sony laptops were flimsy, flimsy, flimsy. I have yet to hear from a single sole who actually owns a Sony or Dell and isn't happy with it. Sounds like a bunch of "buy IBM" propoganda to me. I know a programmer who owns a Dell laptop and is VERY happy with it. > They suffered > a lot of internal breakage because the boxes were not solidly construct- > ed. The manufacturers skimped on materials and strength, and the results > were just what you'd expect: expensive repairs that just weren't possi- > ble for the end-user to do himself. > > On the other end of the spectrum, IBM ThinkPads and Toshiba laptops > were, according to pop, built like tanks. I don't know about that. I looked at the Toshibas yesterday at Bestbuy. They're made of the same grade plastic that the Sony is made of. Perhaps things have changed a bit in the last 3 years. -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 07:09:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 703F237B401 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 07:09:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ohsmtp01.ogw.rr.com (ohsmtp01.ogw.rr.com [65.24.7.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E6243FB1 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 07:09:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chops@cinci.rr.com) Received: from cinci.rr.com (cvg-27-164-225.cinci.rr.com [24.27.164.225]) by ohsmtp01.ogw.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h47E9Snp006914; Wed, 7 May 2003 10:09:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3EB91398.2020009@cinci.rr.com> Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 10:09:28 -0400 From: Mike B User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030429 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "M. Warner Losh" References: <3EB81597.3030706@cinci.rr.com> <20030506.214525.116769884.imp@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: <20030506.214525.116769884.imp@bsdimp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cardbus on toshiba satellite X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 14:09:39 -0000 Thanks, although from looking at -current, I think I may hold off on updating for the moment :-) M. Warner Losh wrote: >In message: <3EB81597.3030706@cinci.rr.com> > Mike B writes: >: Hi, I'm having trouble getting pcmcia to work on my toshiba satellite >: 1905-s301 with Freebsd 5.0. In my kernel I have this >: >: #device cbb # cardbus (yenta) bridge >: #device pcic # ExCA ISA and PCI bridges >: device pccard # PC Card (16-bit) bus >: device cardbus # CardBus (32-bit) bus >: >: if I enable cbb then I get a torrent of messages outputted to the >: console that look like >: >: cbb # >: >: where # is either 1 or 2. These messages stream as fast as the eye can see. > >Update. I botched a commit the other day and these were in there for >a while. :-( They are gone now :-) > >Warner >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 07:35:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2416D37B401 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 07:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.vagner.com (ns1.vagner.com [65.39.87.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57F5043F93 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 07:35:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from george@vagner.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by ns1.vagner.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id h47EZJX1008042 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Wed, 7 May 2003 07:35:19 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from george@vagner.com) Received: from vagner.com (pcp01602196pcs.manass01.va.comcast.net [68.50.240.22]) by ns1.vagner.com (8.12.9/8.12.8av) with ESMTP id h47EZFCC008032 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 07:35:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from george@vagner.com) Message-ID: <3EB919A5.6050209@vagner.com> Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 10:35:17 -0400 From: Laszlo Vagner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20021229 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.8 required=4.0 tests=USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA version=2.53 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Subject: card bus on 5.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 14:35:20 -0000 fresh install of 5.0-R onto a thinkpad 760xd (old) my pcmcia network card doesn't work cause cbb0 TI1130 pci card bus bridge card bus0 on cbb0 pccard0 <16 bit pc card bus> on cbb0 cbb unable to map irq device probe and attach cbb0 attach returned 12 suggestions please everything was working in 4.8 with the exception of being able to reboot now i can reboot in 5.0 but have no cardbus function. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 07:55:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA6C437B401 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 07:55:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.iskon.hr (mail.iskon.hr [213.191.128.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7932143F3F for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 07:55:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Damjan.Marion@iskon.hr) Received: (qmail 25449 invoked from network); 7 May 2003 16:55:41 +0200 Received: from trinity.iskon.hr (HELO trinity.iskon.local) (213.191.128.86) by mail.iskon.hr with SMTP; 7 May 2003 16:55:41 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 16:55:52 +0200 Message-ID: <5896D609E682954B8B3DB4BB513EDCEE01AF80DC@trinity.iskon.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: ACPI and IRQ problems Thread-Index: AcMUqMFHyd5Qwp2vSHee49/pVTkNdg== From: "Damjan Marion" To: Subject: ACPI and IRQ problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 14:55:56 -0000 I have Acer TM 620 notebook with onboard fxp NIC that failed to work on FreeBSD. When I bring fxp up all userland is frozen and I got "fxp0: device timeout" message repeating. Seems that most devices are using IRQ 10 and I suspect ACPI. Disabling ACPI doesn't help so I tried also to correct ACPI DSDT but without success. I would appreciate any help with this problem. Thanks, Damjan Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #1: Mon May 5 09:22:35 CEST 2003 root@:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/DAMJAN-OLD Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0xc0505000. Preloaded acpi_dsdt "/boot/acpi_dsdt.aml" at 0xc05050a8. Preloaded elf module "/boot/kernel/acpi.ko" at 0xc05050f0. Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 999891727 Hz CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Mobile CPU 1000MHz (999.89-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0x6b1 Stepping =3D 1 =20 Features=3D0x383f9ff real memory =3D 528285696 (503 MB) avail memory =3D 507650048 (484 MB) Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled ACPI: DSDT was overridden. ACPI-0375: *** Info: Table [DSDT] replaced by host OS npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard pcibios: BIOS version 2.10 Using $PIR table, 7 entries at 0xc00fb700 acpi_bus_number: root bus has no _BBN, assuming 0 acpi0: power button is handled as a fixed feature programming model. Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz acpi_bus_number: root bus has no _BBN, assuming 0 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0xf108-0xf10b on acpi0 acpi_cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_tz0: on acpi0 acpi_tz1: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0x90100000-0x9017ffff,0x98000000-0x9fffffff irq 11 at device 2.0 on pci0 agp0: detected 8060k stolen memory agp0: aperture size is 128M pci0: at device 2.1 (no driver attached) uhci0: port 0xa4a0-0xa4bf irq 11 at device 29.0 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xa4e0-0xa4ff irq 10 at device 29.1 on pci0 usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0xa800-0xa81f irq 11 at device 29.2 on pci0 usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pcib1: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 fwohci0: vendor=3D104c, dev=3D8026 fwohci0: <1394 Open Host Controller Interface> mem 0x80104000-0x80107fff,0x80100000-0x801007ff irq 10 at device 3.0 on pci1 fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=3D1) fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channel is 4. fwohci0: EUI64 10:25:10:1f:00:02:f7:2f fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 1 ports. fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. firewire0: on fwohci0 sbp0: on firewire0 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset pci1: at device 8.0 (no driver attached) pcic0: irq 10 at device 9.0 on pci1 pcic0: Could not grab register memory device_probe_and_attach: pcic0 attach returned 12 pcic0: irq 10 at device 9.1 on pci1 pcic0: Could not grab register memory device_probe_and_attach: pcic0 attach returned 12 isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xa890-0xa89f,0xa878-0xa87b,0xa860-0xa867,0xa848-0xa84b,0xa830-0xa837 at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 31.5 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 31.6 (no driver attached) acpi_lid0: on acpi0 acpi_acad0: on acpi0 acpi_cmbat0: on acpi0 atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 fdc0: ready for input in output fdc0: cmd 3 failed at out byte 1 of 3 sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0 port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on acpi0 sio0: type 8250 or not responding sio1 port 0x240-0x247,0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 drq 3 on acpi0 sio1: type 16550A psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 acpi_ec0: port 0x66,0x62 on acpi0 fdc0: ready for input in output fdc0: cmd 3 failed at out byte 1 of 3 pmtimer0 on isa0 fdc0: ready for input in output fdc0: cmd 3 failed at out byte 1 of 3 pcic0: at port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 on isa0 pcic0: Polling mode pccard0: on pcic0 pccard1: on pcic0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=3D0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec fwohci0: BUS reset fwohci0: node_id=3D0xc000ffc0, gen=3D1, CYCLEMASTER mode firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <=3D 0, cable IRM =3D 0 (me) acpi_acad0: acline initialization start acpi_acad0: On Line acpi_acad0: acline initialization done, tried 1 times acpi_cmbat0: battery initialization start acpi_cmbat0: battery initialization done, tried 1 times ad0: 19077MB [38760/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100 acd0: DVD-ROM at ata1-master PIO4 pccard: card inserted, slot 1 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s3a pccard: card inserted, slot 0 wi0 at port 0x240-0x27f irq 5 slot 0 on pccard0 wi0: 802.11 address: 00:02:2d:0b:01:b8 wi0: using Lucent Technologies, WaveLAN/IEEE wi0: Lucent Firmware: Station (6.16.1) wi0: supported rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps module_register: module pccard/wi already exists! Module pccard/wi failed to register: 17 module_register: module pci/wi already exists! Module pci/wi failed to register: 17 pcic2: irq 10 at device 9.0 on pci1 pcic2: Could not map register memory 0xfffff000 device_probe_and_attach: pcic2 attach returned 12 pcic2: irq 10 at device 9.1 on pci1 pcic2: Could not map register memory 0xfffff000 device_probe_and_attach: pcic2 attach returned 12 stray irq 7 fxp0: port 0x7000-0x703f mem 0x80101000-0x80101fff irq 10 at device 8.0 on pci1 device_probe_and_attach: fxp0 attach returned 12 pcic2: irq 10 at device 9.0 on pci1 pcic2: Could not map register memory 0xfffff000 device_probe_and_attach: pcic2 attach returned 12 pcic2: irq 10 at device 9.1 on pci1 pcic2: Could not map register memory 0xfffff000 device_probe_and_attach: pcic2 attach returned 12 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 08:00:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B1937B410 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 08:00:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 319F943FA3 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 08:00:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19DQLE-0007vV-00 for ; Wed, 07 May 2003 16:56:20 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19DQJi-0007nE-00 for ; Wed, 07 May 2003 16:54:46 +0200 From: "Jesse D. Guardiani" Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 10:56:11 -0400 Organization: WingNET Internet Services Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: <20030505223531.6B6755D04@ptavv.es.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.1 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 15:00:39 -0000 Kevin Oberman wrote: >> From: "Jesse D. Guardiani" >> Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 17:43:27 -0400 >> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org >> 6.) Great Power management support [...] > 6. Ain't no such thing today. APM is pretty limited, but I can live with > it. ACPI requires current and is still fairly buggy (as are many > BIOSes). OK, so the general information I've been reading from various posts and webpages seems to indicate that crappy ACPI support isn't really FreeBSD's fault. Apparently, even though ACPI has been around since 95', manufacturers can't seem to get the implementation compatible with the specification. I assume that some manufacturers write their own windows drivers to make up for the buggy implementation? Is that a pretty good evaluation? Or is it more complicated? -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 08:38:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8260437B401 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 08:38:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com (msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com [192.25.240.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE92C43F85 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 08:38:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from darrylo@soco.agilent.com) Received: from relcos2.cos.agilent.com (relcos2.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.237]) by msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 592F9146DC; Wed, 7 May 2003 09:38:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by relcos2.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1DB0594; Wed, 7 May 2003 09:38:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) SMKit7.1.1_Agilent) with ESMTP id IAA04908; Wed, 7 May 2003 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200305071538.IAA04908@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: jesse@wingnet.net In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 07 May 2003 09:33:30 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 08:38:28 -0700 From: Darryl Okahata cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Darryl Okahata List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 15:38:34 -0000 "Jesse D. Guardiani" wrote: > I have yet to hear from a single sole who actually owns a Sony or Dell and > isn't happy with it. Sounds like a bunch of "buy IBM" propoganda to me. > > I know a programmer who owns a Dell laptop and is VERY happy with it. My previous laptop was a Dell Inspiron 7500 and, while I did consider getting another Dell as a replacement, my Dell laptop wasn't exactly problem-free: * DVDROM died after a year-and-a-half or so. I ended up paying to have this fixed, but I've forgotten if Dell's warranty did not cover this (I had a 3-year warranty), or if I just could not wait. * Battery died after 1-2 years (sorry, it was a while back). Admittedly, this isn't too unusual for laptops .... ;-( Not covered by warranty. * The plastic over the right-side display hinge cracked and broke off. (If I recall correctly, the entire hinge became broken, and so the display was largely supported by only the left-side hinge.) Fixed under warranty. * A large, vertical-column-shaped area (~1.5-2" wide) became "discolored" on the display (from top to bottom). My guess is that the display connector was getting tarnished, and reseating it would probably have fixed it. (However, the laptop was out-of-warranty, I didn't feel like disassembling the laptop, and so I used this as an excuse to dump my 3+ year-old laptop. ;-) On the plus side, Dell's repair service was quite good (I only used it once, though). I've heard a lot of horror stories about Sony's, and so I now try to avoid Sony whenever possible. Although I did consider Dell, I ended up getting an IBM Thinkpad, largely because I found a deal that I couldn't pass up. It's very well- built. Also, replacement parts "should" be easy to find, although, as I seem to have one of the "rarer" Thinkpads (an A31), I'm not sure if this is true for me. -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 09:00:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D28337B401 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 09:00:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F23243F85 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 09:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.8/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h47Fx6Tl010037; Wed, 7 May 2003 09:59:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 09:55:57 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20030507.095557.103392581.imp@bsdimp.com> To: chops@cinci.rr.com From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <3EB91398.2020009@cinci.rr.com> References: <3EB81597.3030706@cinci.rr.com> <20030506.214525.116769884.imp@bsdimp.com> <3EB91398.2020009@cinci.rr.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.2 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cardbus on toshiba satellite X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 16:00:04 -0000 In message: <3EB91398.2020009@cinci.rr.com> Mike B writes: : Thanks, although from looking at -current, I think I may hold off on : updating for the moment :-) Actually, if you got the printf bug, you almost certainly have the vm corruption leading to panic 'freeing free block' bug too. You can just update that one file too. Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 09:01:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D5BC37B401 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 09:01:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45DC843F75 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 09:01:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.8/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h47G1DTl010074; Wed, 7 May 2003 10:01:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 09:58:04 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20030507.095804.105008676.imp@bsdimp.com> To: george@vagner.com From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <3EB919A5.6050209@vagner.com> References: <3EB919A5.6050209@vagner.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.2 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: card bus on 5.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 16:01:15 -0000 In message: <3EB919A5.6050209@vagner.com> Laszlo Vagner writes: : fresh install of 5.0-R onto a thinkpad 760xd (old) : : my pcmcia network card doesn't work cause : : cbb0 TI1130 pci card bus bridge : card bus0 on cbb0 : pccard0 <16 bit pc card bus> on cbb0 : cbb unable to map irq : device probe and attach cbb0 attach returned 12 : : : suggestions please : : everything was working in 4.8 with the exception of being able to reboot : now i can reboot in 5.0 but have no cardbus function. Looks like it can't route interrupts. Can you send me a dmesg from a boot -v? Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 09:10:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA7FA37B401 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 09:10:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.vagner.com (ns1.vagner.com [65.39.87.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECBEC43F75 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 09:10:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from george@vagner.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by ns1.vagner.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id h47GAk5F008836; Wed, 7 May 2003 09:10:46 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from george@vagner.com) Received: from vagner.com (pcp01602196pcs.manass01.va.comcast.net [68.50.240.22]) by ns1.vagner.com (8.12.9/8.12.8av) with ESMTP id h47GAfCC008826; Wed, 7 May 2003 09:10:41 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from george@vagner.com) Message-ID: <3EB93003.9040502@vagner.com> Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 12:10:43 -0400 From: Laszlo Vagner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20021229 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Darryl Okahata References: <200305071538.IAA04908@mina.soco.agilent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-28.6 required=4.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA version=2.53 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 cc: jesse@wingnet.net cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 16:10:49 -0000 Darryl Okahata wrote: >"Jesse D. Guardiani" wrote: > > > >>I have yet to hear from a single sole who actually owns a Sony or Dell and >>isn't happy with it. Sounds like a bunch of "buy IBM" propoganda to me. >> >>I know a programmer who owns a Dell laptop and is VERY happy with it. >> >> > > My previous laptop was a Dell Inspiron 7500 and, while I did >consider getting another Dell as a replacement, my Dell laptop wasn't >exactly problem-free: > >* DVDROM died after a year-and-a-half or so. I ended up paying to have > this fixed, but I've forgotten if Dell's warranty did not cover this > (I had a 3-year warranty), or if I just could not wait. > >* Battery died after 1-2 years (sorry, it was a while back). > Admittedly, this isn't too unusual for laptops .... ;-( Not covered > by warranty. > >* The plastic over the right-side display hinge cracked and broke off. > (If I recall correctly, the entire hinge became broken, and so the > display was largely supported by only the left-side hinge.) Fixed > under warranty. > >* A large, vertical-column-shaped area (~1.5-2" wide) became > "discolored" on the display (from top to bottom). My guess is that > the display connector was getting tarnished, and reseating it would > probably have fixed it. (However, the laptop was out-of-warranty, I > didn't feel like disassembling the laptop, and so I used this as an > excuse to dump my 3+ year-old laptop. ;-) > >On the plus side, Dell's repair service was quite good (I only used it >once, though). I've heard a lot of horror stories about Sony's, and so >I now try to avoid Sony whenever possible. > > Although I did consider Dell, I ended up getting an IBM Thinkpad, >largely because I found a deal that I couldn't pass up. It's very well- >built. Also, replacement parts "should" be easy to find, although, as I >seem to have one of the "rarer" Thinkpads (an A31), I'm not sure if this >is true for me. > > > I had very good luck with toshiba, seems like its very stable and after 3 years everything still works fine, i got it dual booting freebsd and win2000, the only shortcoming is the lack of serial port and the lucent winmodem. its is an s2805-401 700mhz P3 with 15 inch display that is clear and bright. needs a cd burner though. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 09:16:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 810A937B401 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 09:16:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.vagner.com (ns1.vagner.com [65.39.87.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A23B743F85 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 09:16:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from george@vagner.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by ns1.vagner.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id h47GGOJw008904; Wed, 7 May 2003 09:16:24 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from george@vagner.com) Received: from vagner.com (pcp01602196pcs.manass01.va.comcast.net [68.50.240.22]) by ns1.vagner.com (8.12.9/8.12.8av) with ESMTP id h47GGKCC008894; Wed, 7 May 2003 09:16:21 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from george@vagner.com) Message-ID: <3EB93156.7020908@vagner.com> Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 12:16:22 -0400 From: Laszlo Vagner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20021229 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "M. Warner Losh" References: <3EB919A5.6050209@vagner.com> <20030507.095804.105008676.imp@bsdimp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-18.9 required=4.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA version=2.53 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: card bus on 5.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 16:16:33 -0000 M. Warner Losh wrote: >In message: <3EB919A5.6050209@vagner.com> > Laszlo Vagner writes: >: fresh install of 5.0-R onto a thinkpad 760xd (old) >: >: my pcmcia network card doesn't work cause >: >: cbb0 TI1130 pci card bus bridge >: card bus0 on cbb0 >: pccard0 <16 bit pc card bus> on cbb0 >: cbb unable to map irq >: device probe and attach cbb0 attach returned 12 >: >: >: suggestions please >: >: everything was working in 4.8 with the exception of being able to reboot >: now i can reboot in 5.0 but have no cardbus function. > >Looks like it can't route interrupts. Can you send me a dmesg from a >boot -v? > >Warner > > > > wish i could, it dont have the floppy or cdburner and the network card of course dont work without card bus. Its basically a brick just sitting here now. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 09:25:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 136CC37B401 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 09:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 414A143F85 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 09:25:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.8/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h47GP2Tl010269; Wed, 7 May 2003 10:25:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 10:21:53 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20030507.102153.73417949.imp@bsdimp.com> To: george@vagner.com From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <3EB93156.7020908@vagner.com> References: <3EB919A5.6050209@vagner.com> <20030507.095804.105008676.imp@bsdimp.com> <3EB93156.7020908@vagner.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.2 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: card bus on 5.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 16:25:04 -0000 In message: <3EB93156.7020908@vagner.com> Laszlo Vagner writes: : M. Warner Losh wrote: : : >In message: <3EB919A5.6050209@vagner.com> : > Laszlo Vagner writes: : >: fresh install of 5.0-R onto a thinkpad 760xd (old) : >: : >: my pcmcia network card doesn't work cause : >: : >: cbb0 TI1130 pci card bus bridge : >: card bus0 on cbb0 : >: pccard0 <16 bit pc card bus> on cbb0 : >: cbb unable to map irq : >: device probe and attach cbb0 attach returned 12 : >: : >: : >: suggestions please : >: : >: everything was working in 4.8 with the exception of being able to reboot : >: now i can reboot in 5.0 but have no cardbus function. : > : >Looks like it can't route interrupts. Can you send me a dmesg from a : >boot -v? : > : >Warner : > : > : > : > : wish i could, it dont have the floppy or cdburner and the network card : of course dont work : without card bus. Its basically a brick just sitting here now. Well, you could do the following: Build an OLDCARD kernel. Boot it until you get it working (may need ISA interrupts). then you can test boot the GENERIC kernels until you get the information I've requested. Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 09:26:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3374137B405 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 09:26:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA0443F85 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 09:26:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19DRgJ-0007hd-00 for ; Wed, 07 May 2003 18:22:11 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19DRc2-0007GT-00 for ; Wed, 07 May 2003 18:17:46 +0200 From: "Jesse D. Guardiani" Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 12:19:11 -0400 Organization: WingNET Internet Services Lines: 54 Message-ID: References: <200305071538.IAA04908@mina.soco.agilent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.1 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 16:26:47 -0000 Darryl Okahata wrote: > "Jesse D. Guardiani" wrote: > My previous laptop was a Dell Inspiron 7500 and, while I did > consider getting another Dell as a replacement, my Dell laptop wasn't > exactly problem-free: > > * DVDROM died after a year-and-a-half or so. I ended up paying to have > this fixed, but I've forgotten if Dell's warranty did not cover this > (I had a 3-year warranty), or if I just could not wait. > > * Battery died after 1-2 years (sorry, it was a while back). > Admittedly, this isn't too unusual for laptops .... ;-( Not covered > by warranty. > > * The plastic over the right-side display hinge cracked and broke off. > (If I recall correctly, the entire hinge became broken, and so the > display was largely supported by only the left-side hinge.) Fixed > under warranty. > > * A large, vertical-column-shaped area (~1.5-2" wide) became > "discolored" on the display (from top to bottom). My guess is that > the display connector was getting tarnished, and reseating it would > probably have fixed it. (However, the laptop was out-of-warranty, I > didn't feel like disassembling the laptop, and so I used this as an > excuse to dump my 3+ year-old laptop. ;-) That is certainly useful info. I appreciate it. > > On the plus side, Dell's repair service was quite good (I only used it > once, though). I've heard a lot of horror stories about Sony's, and so > I now try to avoid Sony whenever possible. > > Although I did consider Dell, I ended up getting an IBM Thinkpad, > largely because I found a deal that I couldn't pass up. It's very well- > built. Also, replacement parts "should" be easy to find, although, as I > seem to have one of the "rarer" Thinkpads (an A31), I'm not sure if this > is true for me. How long have you had the Thinkpad? And do you know where I might purchase one besides On-line? (Bestbuy and Circuit City don't carry them) > -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 09:43:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44FBB37B401 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 09:43:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from boreas.isi.edu (boreas.isi.edu [128.9.160.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA1D43F93 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 09:43:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from larse@ISI.EDU) Received: from isi.edu (nik.isi.edu [128.9.168.58]) by boreas.isi.edu (8.11.6p2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h47GhS119904; Wed, 7 May 2003 09:43:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3EB937B0.6010206@isi.edu> Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 09:43:28 -0700 From: Lars Eggert Organization: USC Information Sciences Institute User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4a) Gecko/20030429 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jesse@wingnet.net References: <87brygq8jm.fsf@fuckup.hack.org> <16056.18138.287510.281869@idiom.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms010508050802000003030403" cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 16:43:35 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms010508050802000003030403 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jesse D. Guardiani wrote: > > I have yet to hear from a single sole who actually owns a Sony or Dell and > isn't happy with it. Sounds like a bunch of "buy IBM" propoganda to me. FWIW, I've been using a Dell Latitude C600 for about two years now, and I'd recommend it mostly because of the no-fuss repair service. If you travel a lot with it, or just lug it around a lot, things will break. Mine has had the motherboard, hard drive, screen, keyboard assembly, graphics card, power adaptor and pretty much all plastic pieces replaced by now. We have a second one that has fared a little better, but has also had multiple service calls. With next-business day service, this isn't a big issue, but I am sure glad we got extended warranty. Otherwise this thing would be a doorstop by now. It was bought through Dell Educational, maybe that affects service. Lars PS: I really like the IBMs, too, but I can't stand the trackpoint... -- Lars Eggert USC Information Sciences Institute --------------ms010508050802000003030403 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIJtjCC AzgwggKhoAMCAQICEGZFcrfMdPXPY3ZFhNAukQEwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEEBQAwgdExCzAJBgNV BAYTAlpBMRUwEwYDVQQIEwxXZXN0ZXJuIENhcGUxEjAQBgNVBAcTCUNhcGUgVG93bjEaMBgG A1UEChMRVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcxKDAmBgNVBAsTH0NlcnRpZmljYXRpb24gU2Vydmlj ZXMgRGl2aXNpb24xJDAiBgNVBAMTG1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBDQTErMCkG CSqGSIb3DQEJARYccGVyc29uYWwtZnJlZW1haWxAdGhhd3RlLmNvbTAeFw0wMDA4MzAwMDAw MDBaFw0wNDA4MjcyMzU5NTlaMIGSMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTEVMBMGA1UECBMMV2VzdGVybiBD YXBlMRIwEAYDVQQHEwlDYXBlIFRvd24xDzANBgNVBAoTBlRoYXd0ZTEdMBsGA1UECxMUQ2Vy 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Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender )encrypted SMTP for ; 7 May 2003 17:03:55 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx ([216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h47H3mp0005306; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:03:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.4 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5896D609E682954B8B3DB4BB513EDCEE01AF80DC@trinity.iskon.local> Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 13:03:56 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Damjan Marion cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: RE: ACPI and IRQ problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 17:03:52 -0000 On 07-May-2003 Damjan Marion wrote: > > I have Acer TM 620 notebook with onboard fxp NIC that failed to work on > FreeBSD. > When I bring fxp up all userland is frozen and I got "fxp0: device > timeout" message repeating. > > Seems that most devices are using IRQ 10 and I suspect ACPI. Disabling > ACPI doesn't help so I tried also to correct ACPI DSDT but without > success. > > I would appreciate any help with this problem. Do you have PNP OS set to YES? -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 10:52:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9441037B40B for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 10:52:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A6A043FA3 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 10:52:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19DSyt-00068N-00 for ; Wed, 07 May 2003 19:45:27 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19DSrH-0005Qa-00 for ; Wed, 07 May 2003 19:37:35 +0200 From: "Jesse D. Guardiani" Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 13:38:57 -0400 Organization: WingNET Internet Services Lines: 66 Message-ID: References: <87brygq8jm.fsf@fuckup.hack.org> <16056.18138.287510.281869@idiom.com> <3EB937B0.6010206@isi.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.1 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 17:52:51 -0000 Lars Eggert wrote: > Jesse D. Guardiani wrote: >> >> I have yet to hear from a single sole who actually owns a Sony or Dell >> and isn't happy with it. Sounds like a bunch of "buy IBM" propoganda to >> me. > > FWIW, I've been using a Dell Latitude C600 for about two years now, and > I'd recommend it mostly because of the no-fuss repair service. > > If you travel a lot with it, or just lug it around a lot, things will > break. Mine has had the motherboard, hard drive, screen, keyboard > assembly, graphics card, power adaptor and pretty much all plastic > pieces replaced by now. We have a second one that has fared a little > better, but has also had multiple service calls. I think I'm definately going to stay away from Dell then. I think I might bite the bullet and get an IBM after hearing what everyone has to say about Sony and Dell. I actually looked around on the internet for IBM pricing today and yesterday. I actually found one that is nearly what I what customized ThinkPad A31 2652Q5U for $2,197.80 with the following features: 15.0" SXGA+ (1400x1050) TFT Pentium 4 M class 2.0Ghz w 512Kb L2 cache 40 Gb ATA 100 HD 512M DDR SDRAM XP Professional (hey, I can't get it without windows...) CDRW/DVD Combo III Integrate Wi-Fi (assume 802.11b?) (who knows if it works with FreeBSD though...) 32Mb ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 (definately supported under Xfree86!) Integrated 10/100 and V.92 (not sure if the modem would work though) 3 yr onsite repair 9x5/next business day (sweet) Free Leather Case/Travel Surge Protector No 16" screen, only 32M graphics memory instead of 64M and no DVD burner... But maybe if I wait a few months that will change. I can be patient. > > With next-business day service, this isn't a big issue, but I am sure > glad we got extended warranty. Otherwise this thing would be a doorstop > by now. It was bought through Dell Educational, maybe that affects > service. > > Lars > > PS: I really like the IBMs, too, but I can't stand the trackpoint... I don't care for it either. I'll probably get a wireless optical mouse for desktop work. -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 12:08:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 841BF37B401 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 12:08:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postal2.es.net (postal2.es.net [198.128.3.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB52543F93 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 12:08:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal2.es.net (Postal Node 2) with ESMTP id MUA74016; Wed, 07 May 2003 12:08:02 -0700 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 67B4B5D08; Wed, 7 May 2003 12:08:01 -0700 (PDT) To: jesse@wingnet.net In-Reply-To: Message from "Jesse D. Guardiani" of "Wed, 07 May 2003 09:33:30 EDT." Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 12:08:01 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20030507190801.67B4B5D08@ptavv.es.net> cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 19:08:12 -0000 > From: "Jesse D. Guardiani" > Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 09:33:30 -0400 > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > I don't know about that. I looked at the Toshibas yesterday at Bestbuy. > They're made of the same grade plastic that the Sony is made of. Perhaps > things have changed a bit in the last 3 years. Try the Toshiba keyboard before going this way. I found it to be the worst I had ever used. While I love the IBM keyboard, the Dell is not bad. No experience with Sony. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 12:23:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED0D37B401 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 12:23:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpproxy2.mitre.org (smtpproxy2.mitre.org [192.80.55.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D4D243F93 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 12:23:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jandrese@mitre.org) Received: from avsrv2.mitre.org (avsrv2.mitre.org [128.29.154.4]) by smtpproxy2.mitre.org (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h47JNkNe023929 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 15:23:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MAILHUB1 (mailhub1.mitre.org [129.83.20.31]) by smtpsrv2.mitre.org (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h47JNimp015667 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 15:23:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mm112324-2k.mitre.org (128.29.3.65) by mailhub1.mitre.org with SMTP id 2317627; Wed, 07 May 2003 15:23:40 -0400 Message-ID: <3EB95D3A.6010800@mitre.org> Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 15:23:38 -0400 From: Jason Andresen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <87brygq8jm.fsf@fuckup.hack.org> <16056.18138.287510.281869@idiom.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 19:23:52 -0000 Jesse D. Guardiani wrote: > Eric De Mund wrote: > > >>Hello, >> >>I don't recall the first requester's name, but, hello. I always ask >>people if they're going to be carrying the machine here and there or >>are, instead, going to be using it in one place. If the machine is going >>to be travelling back and forth to work or back and forth to school on a >>regular basis, I tell them to go down to their local mom-and-pop compu- >>ter repair place and talk to pop. Or mom. > > > I really don't know of a single "mom-and-pop" place around here that sells > laptops. In my experience older folks are terrified of the things. > > Truthfully, I don't know anyone around here that sells IBMs either. > > > >>Have them tell you what brands >>and models you should avoid. And then ask them why. >> >>When I did this in 2000, I learned that Dell laptops and, to an even >>greater degree, Sony laptops were flimsy, flimsy, flimsy. > > > > I have yet to hear from a single sole who actually owns a Sony or Dell and > isn't happy with it. Sounds like a bunch of "buy IBM" propoganda to me. > > I know a programmer who owns a Dell laptop and is VERY happy with it. > > > >>They suffered >>a lot of internal breakage because the boxes were not solidly construct- >>ed. The manufacturers skimped on materials and strength, and the results >>were just what you'd expect: expensive repairs that just weren't possi- >>ble for the end-user to do himself. >> >>On the other end of the spectrum, IBM ThinkPads and Toshiba laptops >>were, according to pop, built like tanks. > > > I don't know about that. I looked at the Toshibas yesterday at Bestbuy. > They're made of the same grade plastic that the Sony is made of. Perhaps > things have changed a bit in the last 3 years. Well, my workplace loves these Dell Latitudes. I've had two now, an older 400Mhz version and a newer 1.2Ghz version. Additionally, I've used several of the older (<400Mhz) versions of this laptop (we reuse old equipment in the labs). The 400 Mhz version (it has a 90 degree angle for the little joint that sticks up where the screen attaches) was a piece of junk. The keyboard screws fell out (and the keyboard was jumpy as heck), the fan was constantly in danger of failing (it seemed to rub no matter what I did), and the whole thing ran hot. I never dropped the laptop or abused it and it still seemed ready to fall apart when I traded it in. The new 1.2Ghz version seems to have fixed some of the problems. The troublesome fan has been replaced by a blower that intakes from the bottom of the case. If you have this in your lap, you'd better sit with your legs tightly together, because if you block the intake hole the laptop heats up in short order. On that note, the laptop gets rather warm even when properly ventalated. The whole case feels a fair bit sturdier than the old case, and I havn't had anything fall off yet. The older (<400 Mhz) laptops are actually pretty nice too, and dirt cheap. They were built fairly solid and still use all of the same accessories (drive bays, batteries, AC adaptors) that the modern laptops do. If you buy one, you can buy a couple of the modern batteries (the ones that came with it will be dead anyway) and get hours and hours of use out of your laptop. FreeBSD will support all of the hardware too. It's not very good for heavy computation, but for coding and web browsing they're just fine (although you will want to put more RAM in them generally). -- \ |_ _|__ __|_ \ __| Jason Andresen jandrese@mitre.org |\/ | | | / _| Network and Distributed Systems Engineer _| _|___| _| _|_\___| Office: 703-883-7755 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 12:34:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEE1037B401 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 12:34:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CC1A43F75 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 12:34:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19DUfN-0006ow-00 for ; Wed, 07 May 2003 21:33:25 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19DUf4-0006nY-00 for ; Wed, 07 May 2003 21:33:06 +0200 From: "Jesse D. Guardiani" Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 15:34:31 -0400 Organization: WingNET Internet Services Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <20030507190801.67B4B5D08@ptavv.es.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.1 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 19:34:54 -0000 Kevin Oberman wrote: >> From: "Jesse D. Guardiani" >> Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 09:33:30 -0400 >> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > Try the Toshiba keyboard before going this way. I found it to be the > worst I had ever used. While I love the IBM keyboard, the Dell is not > bad. No experience with Sony. Sonys seem a bit mushy to me. I could get used to it though. -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 13:08:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF2237B408 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.lambertfam.org (www.lambertfam.org [216.223.208.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0347E43F85 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:08:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lambert@lambertfam.org) Received: from laptop.lambertfam.org (laptop.int.lambertfam.org [10.1.0.2]) by mail.lambertfam.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD8F34D1F for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 16:08:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by laptop.lambertfam.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 93E0983DC; Wed, 7 May 2003 16:07:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 16:07:59 -0400 From: Scott Lambert To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030507200759.GA3837@laptop.lambertfam.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <200305071538.IAA04908@mina.soco.agilent.com> <3EB93003.9040502@vagner.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3EB93003.9040502@vagner.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 20:08:07 -0000 On Wed, May 07, 2003 at 12:10:43PM -0400, Laszlo Vagner wrote: > I had very good luck with toshiba, seems like its very stable and > after 3 years everything still works fine, i got it dual booting > freebsd and win2000, the only shortcoming is the lack of serial port > and the lucent winmodem. its is an s2805-401 700mhz P3 with 15 inch > display that is clear and bright. I have the 2805-S201. Mine is a 650MHz Celery with a 13.5" display. That Lucent WinModem works just fine. /usr/ports/comms/ltmdm/ And with the uplcom driver, the serial port is $30 away. This is the one I bought: http://www.jandr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product_Id=1189970 No suspend from resume is my biggest complaint. I haven't had to have it serviced since I bought it in February 2001. It hasn't spent much time on a desk. Most of my use has it in my lap on the couch so I can watch TV while I keep an eye on the network. 802.11b has made this much more comfortable in the past year. When working from the couch, you often get into positions to stay comfortable where taking a hand off the keyboard would have the thing fall off your lap. The trackpoint is great for that. Basically it has been hard used and still lives. I have even bought the OnTheStick keyboards from http://www.pckeyboard.com/ so that I don't have to waste time reaching for the mouse on my other systems. It has been used for about 5 hours per day average and I've hauled it around the NYC subways, tossed it in the back of the Mustang and flown with it. It goes everywhere I go. If it's not travelling, it's running so that I don't have to waste time booting it up to fix something at work. I also ssh back into it from work so that I can read my personal e-mail. I've worn the paint off until it has heart shaped palm prints on the wrist rest. I had to use clear nail polish to replace the "F" and "J" key bumps for touch home row location. They wore off after about a year. The only scare I've had with it was when I dropped it, in the laptop bag, a couple of weeks ago. The 802.11b PCMCIA card was not recognized when I next booted it up. After disassembly, I found the the slot module had come out of the connector on the motherboard. After snapping it back in place, there have been no further problems. > needs a cd burner though. Now that I have a digital camera, I agree with you. Here's hoping /usr/ports/devel/libusb gets better soon so that gphoto2 will work with the Kodak DX3900. Until then, the CF to PCMCIA adapter is doing just fine. Another Toshiba datapoint: My girlfriend's 5 year old (+?) Satellite 2535CDS's only problem is the lid hinge friction is almost gone. -- Scott Lambert KC5MLE Unix SysAdmin lambert@lambertfam.org From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 13:19:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C74937B401 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:19:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.de [213.165.65.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 676D243F93 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:19:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 6432 invoked by uid 65534); 7 May 2003 20:19:31 -0000 Received: from p50910713.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO mail.gsinet.sittig.org) (80.145.7.19) by mail.gmx.net (mp009-rz3) with SMTP; 07 May 2003 22:19:31 +0200 Received: (qmail 13095 invoked from network); 7 May 2003 19:52:45 -0000 Received: from shell.gsinet.sittig.org (192.168.11.153) by mail.gsinet.sittig.org with SMTP; 7 May 2003 19:52:45 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by shell.gsinet.sittig.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id h47Jqg913091 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Wed, 7 May 2003 21:52:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sittig) Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 21:52:42 +0200 From: Gerhard Sittig To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030507215242.V26888@shell.gsinet.sittig.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Subject: WLAN w/ RealTek chips? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 20:19:41 -0000 Browsing through the newly released German c't magazine I noticed a rather cheap offer for PCMCIA WLAN cards (EUR 25,-). The "spec" in the commercial and on the website reads like a generic WiFi product (802.11b, 2.4GHz, 128bit WEP, 1/2/5.5/11 MBit). But the "RealTek chipset" mentioned makes me stop and wonder. What are the chances of FreeBSD support for these cards? `grep -r -i realtek src/share/man/man4` in a -CURRENT sandbox (cvs up'ed last Thursday) only pointed to the ethernet drivers (RealTek 8029 in ed.4, RTL 8002 in rdp.4, and RealTek 8129/8139 and MPX5030 clones in rl.4). `grep -r -i realtek src/sys/dev` only hits on ed/if_ed_pci.c (RTL8029), mii/miidevs (PHYs), mii/rlphy.c (the RealTek PHY), sound/pcm/ac97.c (huh, RealTek produces AC'97 codecs?), and usb/if_axe.c (USB ethernet). Reading the wlan driver manpages does not hint me any further. FYI, here are the revisions of the manpages I read: $FreeBSD: src/share/man/man4/an.4,v 1.17 2003/02/24 02:20:20 trhodes Exp $ $FreeBSD: src/share/man/man4/awi.4,v 1.12 2003/02/15 17:12:53 trhodes Exp $ $FreeBSD: src/share/man/man4/wi.4,v 1.42 2003/04/10 17:04:03 shiba Exp $ $FreeBSD: src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/ray.4,v 1.9 2002/01/21 12:36:12 mpp Exp $ For those interested: visit http://www.innet24.de/ and follow the Netzwerk -> Wireless -> "ALL0182 Wireless PCMCIA Adapter" route. Yes, ALLNET is a local OEM vendor, so the label doesn't mean too much. But I'm quite satisfied with what I've seen from them so far (NICs and switches). And I still some kind of hope that the "RealTek" is just a typo -- but the price is not the same as for Prism2/2.5/3 cards so this could/must really be some newer/cheaper/different chipset. Hmmm ... BTW do I not know how to read the pile of words at the "ALL0272 Wireless 54 Mbit PCMCIA Adapter" description (54MBit/s with Intersil chips?). And the "ALL0192 Wireless PCMCIA Adapter V.3.0" seems to be the Prism3 card. http://www.allnet.de/ isn't too informative either. virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 13:49:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA6C537B404 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:49:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.iskon.hr (mail.iskon.hr [213.191.128.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1266443FA3 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:49:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Damjan.Marion@iskon.hr) Received: (qmail 16789 invoked from network); 7 May 2003 22:48:48 +0200 Received: from trinity.iskon.hr (HELO trinity.iskon.local) (213.191.128.86) by mail.iskon.hr with SMTP; 7 May 2003 22:48:48 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 22:48:59 +0200 Message-ID: <5896D609E682954B8B3DB4BB513EDCEE012CDC15@trinity.iskon.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: ACPI and IRQ problems Thread-Index: AcMUuqfRAmThLJdzQXiYrChmecW/ZAAHq4OQ From: "Damjan Marion" To: "John Baldwin" cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: RE: ACPI and IRQ problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 20:49:04 -0000 > From: John Baldwin [mailto:jhb@FreeBSD.org] > On 07-May-2003 Damjan Marion wrote: > > > > I have Acer TM 620 notebook with onboard fxp NIC that failed to work on > > FreeBSD. > > When I bring fxp up all userland is frozen and I got "fxp0: device > > timeout" message repeating. > > > > Seems that most devices are using IRQ 10 and I suspect ACPI. Disabling > > ACPI doesn't help so I tried also to correct ACPI DSDT but without > > success. > > > > I would appreciate any help with this problem. >=20 > Do you have PNP OS set to YES? My bios don't have that option or something similar.=20 It is bios without any advanced options developed by Wistron. Damjan From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 13:53:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C2837B404 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ohsmtp03.ogw.rr.com (ohsmtp03.ogw.rr.com [65.24.7.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 755F743F3F for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:53:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chops@cinci.rr.com) Received: from cinci.rr.com (cvg-27-164-225.cinci.rr.com [24.27.164.225]) by ohsmtp03.ogw.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h47Kqx6E015687; Wed, 7 May 2003 16:53:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3EB9722C.8060005@cinci.rr.com> Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 16:53:00 -0400 From: Mike B User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030429 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gerhard Sittig References: <20030507215242.V26888@shell.gsinet.sittig.org> In-Reply-To: <20030507215242.V26888@shell.gsinet.sittig.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WLAN w/ RealTek chips? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 20:53:03 -0000 I would like to know if they plan to support this chipset in the future as well, since I recently bought one. It works well in windows, seems to be a quality piece. Gerhard Sittig wrote: >Browsing through the newly released German c't magazine I noticed >a rather cheap offer for PCMCIA WLAN cards (EUR 25,-). The "spec" >in the commercial and on the website reads like a generic WiFi >product (802.11b, 2.4GHz, 128bit WEP, 1/2/5.5/11 MBit). But the >"RealTek chipset" mentioned makes me stop and wonder. > >What are the chances of FreeBSD support for these cards? > >`grep -r -i realtek src/share/man/man4` in a -CURRENT sandbox >(cvs up'ed last Thursday) only pointed to the ethernet drivers >(RealTek 8029 in ed.4, RTL 8002 in rdp.4, and RealTek 8129/8139 >and MPX5030 clones in rl.4). `grep -r -i realtek src/sys/dev` >only hits on ed/if_ed_pci.c (RTL8029), mii/miidevs (PHYs), >mii/rlphy.c (the RealTek PHY), sound/pcm/ac97.c (huh, RealTek >produces AC'97 codecs?), and usb/if_axe.c (USB ethernet). > >Reading the wlan driver manpages does not hint me any further. >FYI, here are the revisions of the manpages I read: >$FreeBSD: src/share/man/man4/an.4,v 1.17 2003/02/24 02:20:20 trhodes Exp $ >$FreeBSD: src/share/man/man4/awi.4,v 1.12 2003/02/15 17:12:53 trhodes Exp $ >$FreeBSD: src/share/man/man4/wi.4,v 1.42 2003/04/10 17:04:03 shiba Exp $ >$FreeBSD: src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/ray.4,v 1.9 2002/01/21 12:36:12 mpp Exp $ > > >For those interested: visit http://www.innet24.de/ and follow >the Netzwerk -> Wireless -> "ALL0182 Wireless PCMCIA Adapter" >route. Yes, ALLNET is a local OEM vendor, so the label doesn't >mean too much. But I'm quite satisfied with what I've seen from >them so far (NICs and switches). And I still some kind of hope >that the "RealTek" is just a typo -- but the price is not the >same as for Prism2/2.5/3 cards so this could/must really be some >newer/cheaper/different chipset. Hmmm ... > > >BTW do I not know how to read the pile of words at the "ALL0272 >Wireless 54 Mbit PCMCIA Adapter" description (54MBit/s with >Intersil chips?). And the "ALL0192 Wireless PCMCIA Adapter >V.3.0" seems to be the Prism3 card. http://www.allnet.de/ isn't >too informative either. > > >virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 >Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net > > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 14:04:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B955937B401 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 14:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail16.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 256DB43F75 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 14:04:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 26863 invoked from network); 7 May 2003 21:04:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender )encrypted SMTP for ; 7 May 2003 21:04:27 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx ([216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h47L4Dp0006135; Wed, 7 May 2003 17:04:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.4 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5896D609E682954B8B3DB4BB513EDCEE012CDC15@trinity.iskon.local> Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 17:04:21 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Damjan Marion cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: RE: ACPI and IRQ problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 21:04:21 -0000 On 07-May-2003 Damjan Marion wrote: > > >> From: John Baldwin [mailto:jhb@FreeBSD.org] >> On 07-May-2003 Damjan Marion wrote: >> > >> > I have Acer TM 620 notebook with onboard fxp NIC that failed to work > on >> > FreeBSD. >> > When I bring fxp up all userland is frozen and I got "fxp0: device >> > timeout" message repeating. >> > >> > Seems that most devices are using IRQ 10 and I suspect ACPI. > Disabling >> > ACPI doesn't help so I tried also to correct ACPI DSDT but without >> > success. >> > >> > I would appreciate any help with this problem. >> >> Do you have PNP OS set to YES? > > My bios don't have that option or something similar. > It is bios without any advanced options developed by Wistron. Hmm, you might be screwed until we are a PNP OS then. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 19:36:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF46737B401 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 19:36:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parmenides.zen.co.uk (parmenides.zen.co.uk [212.23.8.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D707543FB1 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 19:36:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tony@ubik.demon.co.uk) Received: (qmail 19458 invoked from network); 8 May 2003 02:36:23 -0000 Received: from protagoras.zen.co.uk (212.23.8.61) by parmenides.zen.co.uk with QMQP; 8 May 2003 02:36:23 -0000 Received: from dsl-217-155-183-134.zen.co.uk (HELO ubik.demon.co.uk) (217.155.183.134) by protagoras.zen.co.uk with SMTP; 8 May 2003 02:36:23 -0000 X-Zen-Trace: 217.155.183.134 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 02:36:52 +0000 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org From: Anthony Naggs References: <20030507215242.V26888@shell.gsinet.sittig.org> In-Reply-To: <20030507215242.V26888@shell.gsinet.sittig.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 U Subject: Re: WLAN w/ RealTek chips? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 02:36:26 -0000 In article <20030507215242.V26888@shell.gsinet.sittig.org>, Gerhard Sittig writes >Browsing through the newly released German c't magazine I noticed >a rather cheap offer for PCMCIA WLAN cards (EUR 25,-). The "spec" >in the commercial and on the website reads like a generic WiFi >product (802.11b, 2.4GHz, 128bit WEP, 1/2/5.5/11 MBit). But the >"RealTek chipset" mentioned makes me stop and wonder. The RealTek RTL8180 Wireless LAN part was launched at the end of last year/early this year. It looks like this is one of the first products to use the chip. >What are the chances of FreeBSD support for these cards? It used to be easy to get RealTek datasheets, but there seem to be none on their website now. They do at least have source code for a Linux driver on their web site, so there is some 'reference' material to work from. Other Taiwanese companies are rushing to bring out WLAN chipsets too. For instance the AdmTek ADM8211, SiS SiS160 & Inprocomm IPN2120. I can't see either datasheets or example driver source code for any of these. [snip] >For those interested: visit http://www.innet24.de/ and follow >the Netzwerk -> Wireless -> "ALL0182 Wireless PCMCIA Adapter" >route. ... > >BTW do I not know how to read the pile of words at the "ALL0272 >Wireless 54 Mbit PCMCIA Adapter" description (54MBit/s with >Intersil chips?). ... Looks like it uses Intersil (Prism) 802.11g (54Mb/s) chipset, and mentions compatibility with 802.11b (11Mb/s) networks. ttfn -- Tony Naggs From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 23:52:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01DCF37B401 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 23:52:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.iskon.hr (mail.iskon.hr [213.191.128.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BC81743FBF for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 23:52:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Damjan.Marion@iskon.hr) Received: (qmail 6362 invoked from network); 8 May 2003 08:51:51 +0200 Received: from trinity.iskon.hr (HELO trinity.iskon.local) (213.191.128.86) by mail.iskon.hr with SMTP; 8 May 2003 08:51:51 +0200 Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 08:52:03 +0200 Message-ID: <5896D609E682954B8B3DB4BB513EDCEE01AF80DE@trinity.iskon.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 Thread-Topic: ACPI and IRQ problems Thread-Index: AcMU3D/NOhnzBESXR6ClXGh4o9637gAUfO/A From: "Damjan Marion" To: "John Baldwin" cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: RE: ACPI and IRQ problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 06:52:08 -0000 > From: John Baldwin [mailto:jhb@FreeBSD.org]=20 > On 07-May-2003 Damjan Marion wrote: > >> From: John Baldwin [mailto:jhb@FreeBSD.org] On 07-May-2003 Damjan=20 > >> Marion wrote: > >> > > >> > I have Acer TM 620 notebook with onboard fxp NIC that failed to=20 > >> > work > > on > >> > FreeBSD. > >> > When I bring fxp up all userland is frozen and I got=20 > "fxp0: device=20 > >> > timeout" message repeating. > >> > > >> > Seems that most devices are using IRQ 10 and I suspect ACPI. > > Disabling > >> > ACPI doesn't help so I tried also to correct ACPI DSDT=20 > but without=20 > >> > success. > >> > > >> > I would appreciate any help with this problem. > >>=20 > >> Do you have PNP OS set to YES? > >=20 > > My bios don't have that option or something similar.=20 > > It is bios without any advanced options developed by Wistron. >=20 > Hmm, you might be screwed until we are a PNP OS then. >=20 When we will be PNP OS? Damjan From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 00:12:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8574337B401 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 00:12:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-send.myrealbox.com (smtp-send.myrealbox.com [192.108.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FBD243FBD for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 00:12:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd_mail@myrealbox.com) Received: from BAYSHORE_GSMITH freebsd_mail@smtp-send.myrealbox.com [63.195.114.87]$ on Novell NetWare; Thu, 08 May 2003 00:12:07 -0700 Message-ID: <200305080012070407.2E66E21F@smtp.myrealbox.com> In-Reply-To: <3EB95D3A.6010800@mitre.org> References: <87brygq8jm.fsf@fuckup.hack.org> <16056.18138.287510.281869@idiom.com> <3EB95D3A.6010800@mitre.org> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.30.00.00 (4) Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 00:12:07 -0700 From: "Greg Smith" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd_mail@myrealbox.com List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 07:12:07 -0000 Jason Andresen wrote: >Well, my workplace loves these Dell Latitudes. I've had two now, an >older 400Mhz version and a newer 1.2Ghz version. Additionally, I've >used several of the older (<400Mhz) versions of this laptop (we reuse >old equipment in the labs). Just keep in mind that Latitudes are the high quality corporate line, and Inspirons are the "other" line. The Latitudes are actually sold by a separate legal entity which serves corporate customers. (At least that is what they told me when they demanded sales tax.) Greg From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 06:23:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8025B37B401 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 06:23:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rtsserver2.aua.gr (rtsserver2.aua.gr [143.233.187.221]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 787FB43F85 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 06:23:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anonymous@rtsserver2.aua.gr) Received: (qmail 6459 invoked by uid 33); 8 May 2003 13:53:27 -0000 Date: 8 May 2003 13:53:27 -0000 From: Alej Lekatsas To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Trabakoulas v2.18 (Averof v2.4) Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain Subject: wi question X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 13:23:20 -0000 Is the a way to control the transmit output power on wi card ? I know it is possble with linux and an prism 2-2.5 based card __________________________________________________________________ Message sent by Vorras Messaging Software - http://www.vorras.com/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 06:36:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 879F337B401 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 06:36:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6819243F3F for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 06:36:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19DlXc-0006o6-00 for ; Thu, 08 May 2003 15:34:32 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19DlXb-0006nv-00 for ; Thu, 08 May 2003 15:34:31 +0200 From: "Jesse D. Guardiani" Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 09:35:58 -0400 Organization: WingNET Internet Services Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <87brygq8jm.fsf@fuckup.hack.org> <16056.18138.287510.281869@idiom.com> <3EB95D3A.6010800@mitre.org> <200305080012070407.2E66E21F@smtp.myrealbox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.1 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 13:36:02 -0000 Greg Smith wrote: > Jason Andresen wrote: > >>Well, my workplace loves these Dell Latitudes. I've had two now, an >>older 400Mhz version and a newer 1.2Ghz version. Additionally, I've >>used several of the older (<400Mhz) versions of this laptop (we reuse >>old equipment in the labs). > > Just keep in mind that Latitudes are the high quality corporate line, > and Inspirons are the "other" line. Yeah. They're more expensive too. Not quite as expensive as the IBMs, but pricey nevertheless. I think I'd rather just go with IBM after everything that has been said here. > > The Latitudes are actually sold by a separate legal entity which serves > corporate customers. (At least that is what they told me when they > demanded sales tax.) > > Greg > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 06:56:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B444137B401 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 06:56:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snoopy.gwr.com (snoopy.gwr.com [216.130.10.238]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09DE543FB1 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 06:56:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from welch@igillc.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=rune ident=[yof08jPmRkVWFNmkIHz0jRfy8YrHn71X]) by snoopy.gwr.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19Dm4y-0000NY-00; Thu, 08 May 2003 10:09:01 -0400 From: "Arun Welch" To: , Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 08:56:23 -0500 Message-ID: <005701c31569$9cfa61f0$c77ba8c0@rune> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: RE: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 13:56:22 -0000 > I have yet to hear from a single sole who actually owns a > Sony or Dell and isn't happy with it. Sounds like a bunch of > "buy IBM" propoganda to me. > I'll never buy another Dell. MTBF on mine is less than 6 months, and every repair takes at least 3 weeks, despite the so-called next-business-day repair contract I bought. One of my client's bought 10 laptops for a project a year ago, and 3 of them are now doorstops (and will probably remain so, as they've given up calling service in on them). *Everyone* I know who has a Dell has had a hardware problem on theirs at least once a year, and the standard response from their service department is "Reformat the hard drive and reinstall the OS" before they'll deal with the actual issue (the last case in point, a CD drive that went TU. After we refused to reload the OS they shipped another CD, and the replacement worked fine. It's in a removable caddy, after all, how hard was that?). ...arun From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 06:59:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9449437B401 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 06:59:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp804.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp804.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 04ED343F93 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 06:59:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fscked@pacbell.net) Received: from adsl-66-124-232-159.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO pacbell.net) (fscked@pacbell.net@66.124.232.159 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 May 2003 13:59:10 -0000 Message-ID: <3EBA622E.E555348F@pacbell.net> Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 06:57:02 -0700 From: richard childers / kg6hac X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jesse@wingnet.net References: <87brygq8jm.fsf@fuckup.hack.org> <16056.18138.287510.281869@idiom.com> <200305080012070407.2E66E21F@smtp.myrealbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 13:59:11 -0000 Can we drop this pathetic subject or move on to something equally valuable, like whether FreeBSD is better, or Linux, and if so, which one? Thanks. -- richard "Jesse D. Guardiani" wrote: > Greg Smith wrote: > > > Jason Andresen wrote: > > > >>Well, my workplace loves these Dell Latitudes. I've had two now, an > >>older 400Mhz version and a newer 1.2Ghz version. Additionally, I've > >>used several of the older (<400Mhz) versions of this laptop (we reuse > >>old equipment in the labs). > > > > Just keep in mind that Latitudes are the high quality corporate line, > > and Inspirons are the "other" line. > > Yeah. They're more expensive too. Not quite as expensive as the IBMs, > but pricey nevertheless. I think I'd rather just go with IBM after > everything that has been said here. > > > > > The Latitudes are actually sold by a separate legal entity which serves > > corporate customers. (At least that is what they told me when they > > demanded sales tax.) > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- > Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator > WingNET Internet Services, > P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 > 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) > http://www.wingnet.net > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 07:10:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C1E837B401 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 07:10:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from green.eng.utoledo.edu (smartsys.eng.utoledo.edu [131.183.18.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92DE443FB1 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 07:10:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rafege@mail.com) Received: from smtp.eng.utoledo.edu ([131.183.21.44])h48EAK70012207 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:10:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200305081410.h48EAK70012207@green.eng.utoledo.edu> Received: by smtp.eng.utoledo.edu (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 8 May 2003 10:10:20 -0400 Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 10:10:20 -0400 From: rafege@mail.com (G.E. Rafe) To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 14:10:22 -0000 I've been following the current thread on laptop recommendations, and thought to add my observations regarding the 4 Toshibas we've owned since the fall of 1997, all of which have had some version of FreeBSD-RELEASE running on them. Only one of them (Satellite 4030CDT) required a trip back to Toshiba for warranty service due to failing IBM disk drive (well, actually, two trips, since they didn't replace the drive the first time out). The total turn-around time was within a few days in both cases. I've since put more memory & a larger disk in that system and my wife (a French medievalist) is quite happy with its stability (up since December with daily APM suspend/resume cycles) and functionality (Netscape 7, WordPerfect 8, & OpenOffice for Linux). As a desktop replacement, I've been happy with the Satellite Pro 4600, which has been very FreeBSD-friendly (except for the Winmodem). My only "complaint" -- 1024x768 on the LCD is getting a little too constraining. I've been looking at the Satellite Pro 6100 as the next replacement, but was curious as to whether the USB floppy can be used to boot the system (since that spindle is missing from the system). Any comments? I'm also intrigued by IBM's newly announced Thinkpad G40 series, which is being billed as a "desktop replacement". I would be interested in reading from the -mobile communit of Thinkpad users what they make of this series in terms of FreeBSD-friendliness, based either on direct observation or interpretation of the published specs. -- Gary E. RAFE, Ph.D. rafeg@mail.com From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 07:37:44 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5F8B37B404 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 07:37:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03AA143F75 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 07:37:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19DmSB-0003J8-00 for ; Thu, 08 May 2003 16:32:59 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19DmMV-0002vg-00 for ; Thu, 08 May 2003 16:27:07 +0200 From: "Jesse D. Guardiani" Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 10:28:33 -0400 Organization: WingNET Internet Services Lines: 73 Message-ID: References: <87brygq8jm.fsf@fuckup.hack.org> <16056.18138.287510.281869@idiom.com> <200305080012070407.2E66E21F@smtp.myrealbox.com> <3EBA622E.E555348F@pacbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.1 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 14:37:45 -0000 richard childers / kg6hac wrote: > Can we drop this pathetic subject or move on to something equally > valuable, like whether FreeBSD is better, or Linux, and if so, which one? Sure, we can drop it. I don't think it's even close to a "pathetic subject" though. I've learned a lot from this thread. > > Thanks. > > -- richard > > > > "Jesse D. Guardiani" wrote: > >> Greg Smith wrote: >> >> > Jason Andresen wrote: >> > >> >>Well, my workplace loves these Dell Latitudes. I've had two now, an >> >>older 400Mhz version and a newer 1.2Ghz version. Additionally, I've >> >>used several of the older (<400Mhz) versions of this laptop (we reuse >> >>old equipment in the labs). >> > >> > Just keep in mind that Latitudes are the high quality corporate line, >> > and Inspirons are the "other" line. >> >> Yeah. They're more expensive too. Not quite as expensive as the IBMs, >> but pricey nevertheless. I think I'd rather just go with IBM after >> everything that has been said here. >> >> > >> > The Latitudes are actually sold by a separate legal entity which serves >> > corporate customers. (At least that is what they told me when they >> > demanded sales tax.) >> > >> > Greg >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> > "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> -- >> Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator >> WingNET Internet Services, >> P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 >> 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) >> http://www.wingnet.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 07:39:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92CC637B401 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 07:39:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail13.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F306543F85 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 07:39:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 25969 invoked from network); 8 May 2003 14:39:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender )encrypted SMTP for ; 8 May 2003 14:39:27 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx ([216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h48EdLp0008618; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:39:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.4 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5896D609E682954B8B3DB4BB513EDCEE01AF80DE@trinity.iskon.local> Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 10:39:28 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Damjan Marion cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: RE: ACPI and IRQ problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 14:39:25 -0000 On 08-May-2003 Damjan Marion wrote: > >> From: John Baldwin [mailto:jhb@FreeBSD.org] >> On 07-May-2003 Damjan Marion wrote: >> >> From: John Baldwin [mailto:jhb@FreeBSD.org] On 07-May-2003 Damjan >> >> Marion wrote: >> >> > >> >> > I have Acer TM 620 notebook with onboard fxp NIC that failed to >> >> > work >> > on >> >> > FreeBSD. >> >> > When I bring fxp up all userland is frozen and I got >> "fxp0: device >> >> > timeout" message repeating. >> >> > >> >> > Seems that most devices are using IRQ 10 and I suspect ACPI. >> > Disabling >> >> > ACPI doesn't help so I tried also to correct ACPI DSDT >> but without >> >> > success. >> >> > >> >> > I would appreciate any help with this problem. >> >> >> >> Do you have PNP OS set to YES? >> > >> > My bios don't have that option or something similar. >> > It is bios without any advanced options developed by Wistron. >> >> Hmm, you might be screwed until we are a PNP OS then. >> > > When we will be PNP OS? When we fix our PCI code to properly allocate resources. :( -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 07:53:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49BC637B401 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 07:53:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 889D143FA3 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 07:53:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19DmiS-0004qq-00 for ; Thu, 08 May 2003 16:49:48 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Dmbj-00048v-00 for ; Thu, 08 May 2003 16:42:51 +0200 From: "Jesse D. Guardiani" Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 10:44:18 -0400 Organization: WingNET Internet Services Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <200305081410.h48EAK70012207@green.eng.utoledo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.1 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 14:53:52 -0000 G.E. Rafe wrote: > I'm also intrigued by IBM's newly announced Thinkpad G40 series, > which is being billed as a "desktop replacement". I'd go for the A series personally. The G series doesn't seem to have an M class P4, and it appears to have fixed drive bays. I think ACPI is broken in the A31 and A31p BIOS right now though... -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 09:43:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B183A37B405 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 09:43:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com (msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com [192.25.240.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D8143FBD for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 09:43:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from darrylo@soco.agilent.com) Received: from relcos2.cos.agilent.com (relcos2.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.237]) by msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1193C170F0; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:43:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by relcos2.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACEFF655; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:43:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) SMKit7.1.1_Agilent) with ESMTP id JAA27320; Thu, 8 May 2003 09:43:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200305081643.JAA27320@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: jesse@wingnet.net In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 07 May 2003 12:19:11 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 09:43:20 -0700 From: Darryl Okahata cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Darryl Okahata List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 16:43:24 -0000 "Jesse D. Guardiani" wrote: > How long have you had the Thinkpad? And do you know where I might purchase > one besides On-line? (Bestbuy and Circuit City don't carry them) I've had it since mid-January or so. Sorry, I don't know of any brick-and-mortar stores that carry them. Just to give a more balanced view (lest others think that we're all IBM zealots), my Thinkpad A31 is a nice, solid notebook, but it's not completely without issues/problems: * The A31 does not come with a floppy. You can get an external floppy, but it's an USB floppy. This is not an issue for me (I can still boot from CDROM), but it's an issue for some. * If you want to dual-boot Windows and FreeBSD, and still keep the special IBM software that allows you to quickly reinstall Windows from an hidden partition (it's very nice), you'll have to specially-install FreeBSD, as the IBM software appears to use a "boot track" instead of a "boot sector". The normal FreeBSD approach of installing a new boot sector *will* screw things up (for the IBM software, not FreeBSD). Note that you don't have to preserve the IBM software. You can always wipe the disk clean and install FreeBSD onto the entire disk. It's only if you want to dual-boot where this becomes a problem. And, it's definitely an issue, as some (many? most? all?) Thinkpads DO NOT COME WITH WINDOWS RECOVERY CDROMS. Unless you pay extra ($20-$30???) and order the recovery CDROMs from IBM (I think they're "free" if you get them within the first 30 days after getting a Thinkpad), the only way to "reinstall" windows is via the special recovery partition (and using it REQUIRES an intact/unchanged boot sector). [ Just to clarify: you can't change the code in the boot sector, but you can change the partition table. You can resize partitions and repartition the disk, but you must not replace the boot code if you want to keep the IBM recovery software. If you don't care about the recovery software, you can, of course, blow away the boot sector and replace it with something else. ] Here's a procedure for making an IBM A31 Thinkpad dual-bootable: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=70352+75495+/usr/local/www/db/text/2003/freebsd-mobile/20030413.freebsd-mobile * With 5.0-RELEASE, ACPI is broken. I haven't tried the latest -current with the recent ACPI updates, however, although I am using the latest IBM A31 BIOS. * APM seems to work, but there are issues: I can't get the laptop to hibernate (suspend-to-disk), and suspending from X11 causes the resume to "hang" (LCD display becomes "blotchy" without displaying any text or graphics). The latter is possibly fixed with newer versions of XFree86 (I'm using 4.2.1, and need to upgrade), and the workaround is to switch to a vty before suspending. [ For some people, using a kernel with "options SC_NO_SUSPEND_VTYSWITCH" fixes the "suspend from X11" problem for them. It does not work for me. ] * Under WinXP pro (ick), disconnecting the AC while the laptop is going into suspend mode (suspend-to-RAM, not disk) seems to eventually result in an OS crash/hang. The laptop may (or may not) successfully resume, but a crash/hang seems to occur eventually. [ I can't help but wonder if this is an ACPI issue. ] * Under WinXP pro (ick), there is a feature where the laptop will go into hibernation (suspend-to-disk) if it's been in suspend mode (suspend-to-RAM) for a specified period of time. This seems to work only if the suspend mode was entered while the battery was being used; if the suspend is entered while on AC, the hibernation does not occur (but, it does seem that a forced hibernation does occur when the batteries are just about drained). -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 09:53:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8E8037B401 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 09:53:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postal3.es.net (postal3.es.net [198.128.3.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3CA543F85 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 09:53:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal3.es.net (Postal Node 3) with ESMTP id MUA74016; Thu, 08 May 2003 09:53:24 -0700 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id E90BA5D04; Thu, 8 May 2003 09:53:23 -0700 (PDT) To: Darryl Okahata In-Reply-To: Message from Darryl Okahata <200305081643.JAA27320@mina.soco.agilent.com> Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 09:53:23 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20030508165323.E90BA5D04@ptavv.es.net> cc: jesse@wingnet.net cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 16:53:27 -0000 > Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 09:43:20 -0700 > From: Darryl Okahata > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > "Jesse D. Guardiani" wrote: > > > How long have you had the Thinkpad? And do you know where I might purchase > > one besides On-line? (Bestbuy and Circuit City don't carry them) > > I've had it since mid-January or so. Sorry, I don't know of any > brick-and-mortar stores that carry them. > > Just to give a more balanced view (lest others think that we're all > IBM zealots), my Thinkpad A31 is a nice, solid notebook, but it's not > completely without issues/problems: > > * The A31 does not come with a floppy. You can get an external floppy, > but it's an USB floppy. This is not an issue for me (I can still boot > from CDROM), but it's an issue for some. If you buy the port replicator, you can plug a standard floppy drive into it. (That's how I connect my floppy to my T30.) > * If you want to dual-boot Windows and FreeBSD, and still keep the > special IBM software that allows you to quickly reinstall Windows from > an hidden partition (it's very nice), you'll have to specially-install > FreeBSD, as the IBM software appears to use a "boot track" instead of > a "boot sector". The normal FreeBSD approach of installing a new boot > sector *will* screw things up (for the IBM software, not FreeBSD). > > Note that you don't have to preserve the IBM software. You can always > wipe the disk clean and install FreeBSD onto the entire disk. It's > only if you want to dual-boot where this becomes a problem. And, > it's definitely an issue, as some (many? most? all?) Thinkpads DO NOT > COME WITH WINDOWS RECOVERY CDROMS. Unless you pay extra ($20-$30???) > and order the recovery CDROMs from IBM (I think they're "free" if you > get them within the first 30 days after getting a Thinkpad), the only > way to "reinstall" windows is via the special recovery partition (and > using it REQUIRES an intact/unchanged boot sector). For some period after you buy a ThinkPad (1 year?) IBM has shipped the CD free on request. IF YOU GET A THINKPAD, ALWAYS REQUEST THIS! > * With 5.0-RELEASE, ACPI is broken. I haven't tried the latest -current > with the recent ACPI updates, however, although I am using the latest > IBM A31 BIOS. > Still broken, as far as I can tell, but getting closer. > * APM seems to work, but there are issues: I can't get the laptop to > hibernate (suspend-to-disk), and suspending from X11 causes the resume > to "hang" (LCD display becomes "blotchy" without displaying any text > or graphics). The latter is possibly fixed with newer versions of > XFree86 (I'm using 4.2.1, and need to upgrade), and the workaround is > to switch to a vty before suspending. Nope. Still broken. This is common to all ATI Radeon Mobility M7 systems from any vendor. You can recover the display by switching to a vty, turning the display off and turning it back on and switching back to X. I would strongly recommend going to XFree86 4.3. The new Radeon driver is much improved. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 09:59:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F65437B404 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 09:59:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ece.cmu.edu (ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.136.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7373143F3F for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 09:59:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from allbery@ece.cmu.edu) Received: from rushlight (allbery@allbery.dsl.telerama.com [205.201.8.182]) (authenticated) by ece.cmu.edu (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h48Gws324342; Thu, 8 May 2003 12:58:54 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon S. Allbery " KF8NH To: Kevin Oberman In-Reply-To: <20030508165323.E90BA5D04@ptavv.es.net> References: <20030508165323.E90BA5D04@ptavv.es.net> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1052413131.35041.2.camel@rushlight.kf8nh.apk.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 Date: 08 May 2003 12:58:52 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 16:59:04 -0000 On Thu, 2003-05-08 at 12:53, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > From: Darryl Okahata > > * The A31 does not come with a floppy. You can get an external floppy, > > but it's an USB floppy. This is not an issue for me (I can still boot > > from CDROM), but it's an issue for some. > > If you buy the port replicator, you can plug a standard floppy drive into > it. (That's how I connect my floppy to my T30.) Does IBM no longer make the UltraBay2000 floppy? We got those for our T30s; they appear as standard (non-USB) floppies, as far as I can tell. -- brandon s allbery [openafs/solaris/japh/freebsd] allbery@kf8nh.apk.net system administrator [linux/heimdal/too many hats] allbery@ece.cmu.edu electrical and computer engineering KF8NH carnegie mellon university [better check the oblivious first -ke6sls] From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 10:00:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C817837B401 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:00:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com (msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com [192.25.240.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3023243F75 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:00:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from darrylo@soco.agilent.com) Received: from relcos1.cos.agilent.com (relcos1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.239]) by msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB5AA17104; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:59:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by relcos1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E25653B; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:59:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) SMKit7.1.1_Agilent) with ESMTP id JAA27876; Thu, 8 May 2003 09:59:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200305081659.JAA27876@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: "Kevin Oberman" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 08 May 2003 09:53:23 PDT." <20030508165323.E90BA5D04@ptavv.es.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 09:59:58 -0700 From: Darryl Okahata cc: jesse@wingnet.net cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Darryl Okahata List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 17:00:01 -0000 "Kevin Oberman" wrote: > For some period after you buy a ThinkPad (1 year?) IBM has shipped the > CD free on request. IF YOU GET A THINKPAD, ALWAYS REQUEST THIS! Yes, definitely. When I did this (a week or two after getting my Thinkpad), the support guy told me the limit was "30 days". I don't think it's "1 year". > > * With 5.0-RELEASE, ACPI is broken. I haven't tried the latest -current > > with the recent ACPI updates, however, although I am using the latest > > IBM A31 BIOS. > > > Still broken, as far as I can tell, but getting closer. Darn. Thanks for the info. > Nope. Still broken. This is common to all ATI Radeon Mobility M7 systems > from any vendor. You can recover the display by switching to a vty, > turning the display off and turning it back on and switching back to X. Double darn. -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com http://www.soco.agilent.com/~darrylo/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 10:03:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF99237B429 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:03:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-send.myrealbox.com (smtp-send.myrealbox.com [192.108.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CCDB43FAF for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:03:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd_mail@myrealbox.com) Received: from BAYSHORE_GSMITH freebsd_mail@smtp-send.myrealbox.com [63.195.114.87]$ on Novell NetWare; Thu, 08 May 2003 10:03:37 -0700 Message-ID: <200305081003360290.308467BC@smtp.myrealbox.com> In-Reply-To: <20030508165323.E90BA5D04@ptavv.es.net> References: <20030508165323.E90BA5D04@ptavv.es.net> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.30.00.00 (4) Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 10:03:36 -0700 From: "Greg Smith" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd_mail@myrealbox.com List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 17:03:38 -0000 Kevin wrote: >Darryl wrote: >> Note that you don't have to preserve the IBM software. You can always >> wipe the disk clean and install FreeBSD onto the entire disk. It's >> only if you want to dual-boot where this becomes a problem. And, >> it's definitely an issue, as some (many? most? all?) Thinkpads DO NOT >> COME WITH WINDOWS RECOVERY CDROMS. Unless you pay extra ($20-$30???) >> and order the recovery CDROMs from IBM (I think they're "free" if you >> get them within the first 30 days after getting a Thinkpad), the only >> way to "reinstall" windows is via the special recovery partition (and >> using it REQUIRES an intact/unchanged boot sector). > >For some period after you buy a ThinkPad (1 year?) IBM has shipped the >CD free on request. IF YOU GET A THINKPAD, ALWAYS REQUEST THIS! The last times I bought a ThinkPad they told me 30 days for free, but regardless it makes sense to get it right away for free. Note that if you have the CD you don't need to preserve the convenient recovery partition. The Windows recovery will work just as well with the CD, and will give you the option to restore the recovery partition as well, although the CD might not be traveling with you when you most need it. Greg From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 10:07:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF10237B404 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:07:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postal3.es.net (postal3.es.net [198.128.3.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AF34440A2 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:07:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal3.es.net (Postal Node 3) with ESMTP id MUA74016; Thu, 08 May 2003 10:07:17 -0700 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id EE2785D04; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:07:16 -0700 (PDT) To: "Brandon S. Allbery " KF8NH In-Reply-To: Message from "Brandon S. Allbery " KF8NH <1052413131.35041.2.camel@rushlight.kf8nh.apk.net> Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 10:07:16 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20030508170716.EE2785D04@ptavv.es.net> cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 17:07:53 -0000 > From: "Brandon S. Allbery " KF8NH > Date: 08 May 2003 12:58:52 -0400 > > On Thu, 2003-05-08 at 12:53, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > From: Darryl Okahata > > > * The A31 does not come with a floppy. You can get an external floppy, > > > but it's an USB floppy. This is not an issue for me (I can still boot > > > from CDROM), but it's an issue for some. > > > > If you buy the port replicator, you can plug a standard floppy drive into > > it. (That's how I connect my floppy to my T30.) > > Does IBM no longer make the UltraBay2000 floppy? We got those for our > T30s; they appear as standard (non-USB) floppies, as far as I can tell. I assume that they do, but I didn't buy one. I just plug in either the floppy that came with my really old 560 or the one that came with my old 600E. Both work fine on my port replicator. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 10:11:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65C8937B401 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:11:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [130.64.1.215]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93CE343F93 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:11:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 19Dov5-0007cL-00 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Thu, 08 May 2003 13:10:59 -0400 Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 13:10:59 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030508171059.GB18476@pir.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <200305081643.JAA27320@mina.soco.agilent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200305081643.JAA27320@mina.soco.agilent.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 17:11:01 -0000 Darryl Okahata probably said: > I've had it since mid-January or so. Sorry, I don't know of any > brick-and-mortar stores that carry them. I got my X30 in early January and don't know of any physical stores that carry them either. > * The A31 does not come with a floppy. You can get an external floppy, > but it's an USB floppy. This is not an issue for me (I can still boot > from CDROM), but it's an issue for some. I believe you can use the Ultrabay 2000 floppy with the T20 cable on an A31, just as you can on the X30, to get a real external floppy drive rather than the USB one plugged into the parallel port. > * If you want to dual-boot Windows and FreeBSD, and still keep the > special IBM software that allows you to quickly reinstall Windows from > an hidden partition (it's very nice), you'll have to specially-install > FreeBSD, as the IBM software appears to use a "boot track" instead of > a "boot sector". The normal FreeBSD approach of installing a new boot > sector *will* screw things up (for the IBM software, not FreeBSD). Huh. I didn't work out how to keep the IBM recovery software and didn't care too much about it since I got recovery CDs for it. > it's definitely an issue, as some (many? most? all?) Thinkpads DO NOT > COME WITH WINDOWS RECOVERY CDROMS. Unless you pay extra ($20-$30???) > and order the recovery CDROMs from IBM (I think they're "free" if you > get them within the first 30 days after getting a Thinkpad), the only The day my X30 arrived I called IBM, told them it didn't come with recovery CDs and I wanted a set. They arrived at my door two days later completely free of charge. > * APM seems to work, but there are issues: I can't get the laptop to > hibernate (suspend-to-disk), I can, at least with the X30 and several others. You have to create a suspend to disk partition with the IBM version of phdisk in the right place (below 8Gb on disk). You can use the standalone floppy to do it; http://www-3.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/MIGR-4PESMK.html or the program itself; http://www-3.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-4HT3R8 from 'Message-ID: <20030105090529.GJ17859@pir.net>' I sent to -mobile; ] I used the seperate floppy version of this (which is just their ] version of phdisk) to create a suspend to disk partition on my X30. ] ] I resized the XP NTFS partition down (with partition magic 8), created ] the suspend partition with the floppy from IBM (the utility put it ] right after the NTFS partition and I made it big enough for the full ] 1gb of memory the machine can take) and then installed FreeBSD from ] CD. ] ] It now dual boots XP in NTFS on the first partition), 2nd partition is ] suspend to disk, 3rd partition is FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE. I'm even using ] the XP bootloader to boot FreeBSD ;) ] ] FreeBSD suspends to memory and disk fine, as long as there isn't a ] compact flash card in the CF slot (if there is it makes a be-boop ] noise and just turns the screen off). It doesn't use the default BIOS ] save to disk screen, it has a snazzy thinkpad screen ... and writes ] out to disk a lot faster than my Z505 ever did. ] XP suspends to memory and disk fine, although it still uses it's own ] hibernation file in the NTFS partition so I've wasted a bit of disk. ] Eh. > Andx suspending from X11 causes the resume to "hang" (LCD display > becomes "blotchy" without displaying any text or graphics). The > latter is possibly fixed with newer versions of XFree86 (I'm using > 4.2.1, and need to upgrade), and the workaround is to switch to a > vty before suspending. Hmm, what graphics chipset is that machine ? The Intel I830MG in mine goes through suspend/resume fine with XF86 4.3.0 (latest version of fixes from ports). > * Under WinXP pro (ick), there is a feature where the laptop will go > into hibernation (suspend-to-disk) if it's been in suspend mode > (suspend-to-RAM) for a specified period of time. This seems to work > only if the suspend mode was entered while the battery was being used; > if the suspend is entered while on AC, the hibernation does not occur > (but, it does seem that a forced hibernation does occur when the > batteries are just about drained). That may be changable in the BIOS (there is a BIOS setting for if it should go to hibernation while suspended and when) or with the ps2.exe utility. P. -- pir pir-sig@pir.net pir-sig@net.tufts.edu From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 14:02:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1254E37B401; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:02:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C74A343FAF; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:02:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from arno@heho.snv.jussieu.fr) Received: from heho.snv.jussieu.fr (heho.snv.jussieu.fr [134.157.184.22]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.12.9/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id h48L2Yru038349 ; Thu, 8 May 2003 23:02:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from heho.snv.jussieu.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h48L2Yqx005625 ; Thu, 8 May 2003 23:02:34 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from arno@localhost) by heho.snv.jussieu.fr (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h48L2XED005622; Thu, 8 May 2003 23:02:33 +0200 (MEST) To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org From: arno@heho.snv.jussieu.fr Date: 08 May 2003 23:02:33 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 54 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Antivirus: scanned by sophie at shiva.jussieu.fr cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: mmake / maake (Toshiba Satelite 6000 X11 keyboard weirdness) X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 21:02:39 -0000 --=-=-= Hello, I rrun -curreent on a Toshiba sattellite Pro 6000 for over a month with no particular problem, other than a very irrittating "keyboard echo" when in X11 mode. so when I think to type "make", I very often get "mmake" or "maake" but *never* "mmmake" or "maaaake", so I think it hhas nothing to do with keyboard autorepeat ... It happens in xterms, mozilla, opera, emacs, ... I tried vaarious opttions : - disablingg ACPI makkess no difference - stripped down XF86Config - variouss SC_* and KBD_* kernel-conffig options (NB, options MAXCONS=4 maakes that I cannot type text at all, but this is also true forr my desktop -current which otherwise behaves OK) Please ffind attachedd dmesg andd uname outtput, kernel-cconfig, XF86Config and XFree86.0.log. If someone has another idea to test ... Thanx a lot. Regards, Arno (NB, I ddid not correct typingg errors (and I am aa slow typer))) -- Arno J. Klaassen INSERM U483 9, Quai St Bernard 75005 Paris arno@ccr.jussieu.fr --=-=-= Content-Type: application/octet-stream Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=uname-a Content-Description: uname -a FreeBSD M 5.1-BETA FreeBSD 5.1-BETA #0: Thu May 8 16:03:13 CEST 2003 toor@M:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/Sat-current i386 --=-=-= Content-Type: application/octet-stream Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=dmesg-a Content-Description: dmesg -a Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.1-BETA #0: Thu May 8 16:03:13 CEST 2003 toor@M:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/Sat-current Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0xc056e000. Preloaded elf module "/boot/kernel/acpi.ko" at 0xc056e2bc. Calibrating clock(s) ... i8254 clock: 1228967 Hz 1228967 Hz differs from default of 1193182 Hz by more than 1% Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Calibrating TSC clock ... TSC clock: 995963304 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 995963304 Hz CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Mobile CPU 1000MHz (995.96-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6b1 Stepping = 1 Features=0x383f9ff real memory = 653656064 (623 MB) Physical memory chunk(s): 0x0000000000001000 - 0x000000000009efff, 647168 bytes (158 pages) 0x0000000000595000 - 0x0000000026443fff, 636153856 bytes (155311 pages) avail memory = 629006336 (599 MB) bios32: Found BIOS32 Service Directory header at 0xc00f00b0 bios32: Entry = 0xf98e9 (c00f98e9) Rev = 0 Len = 1 pcibios: PCI BIOS entry at 0xf0000+0x97ab pnpbios: Found PnP BIOS data at 0xc00f0260 pnpbios: Entry = f0000:8d8 Rev = 1.0 pnpbios: Event flag at 510 pnpbios: OEM ID c936f351 Other BIOS signatures found: null: mem: Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled random: tap0: bpf attached npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard pci_open(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x80000084 pci_open(1a): mode1res=0x80000000 (0x80000000) pci_cfgcheck: device 0 [class=060000] [hdr=00] is there (id=164410b9) pcibios: BIOS version 2.10 Using $PIR table, 7 entries at 0xc00f01d0 PCI-Only Interrupts: none Location Bus Device Pin Link IRQs embedded 0 2 A 0x59 11 embedded 0 6 A 0x08 11 embedded 0 17 A 0x01 11 embedded 0 17 B 0x02 11 embedded 0 10 A 0x04 11 embedded 1 0 A 0x03 11 embedded 0 16 A 0x03 11 embedded 0 16 B 0x04 11 embedded 0 18 A 0x01 11 acpi_bus_number: root bus has no _BBN, assuming 0 AcpiOsDerivePciId: bus 0 dev 7 func 0 acpi0: power button is handled as a fixed feature programming model. ACPI timer looks BAD min = 2, max = 8, width = 6 ACPI timer looks BAD min = 3, max = 7, width = 4 ACPI timer looks BAD min = 3, max = 7, width = 4 ACPI timer looks BAD min = 2, max = 8, width = 6 ACPI timer looks BAD min = 2, max = 8, width = 6 ACPI timer looks BAD min = 2, max = 8, width = 6 ACPI timer looks BAD min = 3, max = 8, width = 5 ACPI timer looks BAD min = 3, max = 8, width = 5 ACPI timer looks BAD min = 3, max = 7, width = 4 ACPI timer looks BAD min = 2, max = 8, width = 6 Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0xee08-0xee0b on acpi0 mss_probe: no address given, try 0x530 mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) acpi_cpu0: port 0x530-0x537 on acpi0 mss_probe: no address given, try 0x530 mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_probe: no address given, try 0x530 mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) acpi_tz0: port 0x530-0x537 on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 ---- initial configuration ------------------------ \\_SB_.PCI0.FNC0.LNKA irq 11: [ 3 4 5 6 7 10 11] low,level,sharable 0.17.0 \\_SB_.PCI0.FNC0.LNKB irq 11: [ 3 4 5 6 7 10 11] low,level,sharable 0.17.1 \\_SB_.PCI0.FNC0.LNKD irq 11: [ 3 4 5 6 7 10 11] low,level,sharable 0.10.0 \\_SB_.PCI0.FNC0.LNKC irq 11: [ 3 4 5 6 7 10 11] low,level,sharable 0.16.0 \\_SB_.PCI0.FNC0.LNKD irq 11: [ 3 4 5 6 7 10 11] low,level,sharable 0.16.1 \\_SB_.PCI0.FNC0.LNKH irq 11: [ 3 4 5 6 7 10 11] low,level,sharable 0.6.0 \\_SB_.PCI0.FNC0.LNKA irq 11: [ 3 4 5 6 7 10 11] low,level,sharable 0.18.0 \\_SB_.PCI0.FNC0.LNKG irq 11: [ 3 4 5 6 7 10 11] low,level,sharable 0.2.0 ---- before setting priority for links ------------ ---- before fixup boot-disabled links ------------- ---- after fixup boot-disabled links -------------- ---- arbitrated configuration --------------------- \\_SB_.PCI0.FNC0.LNKA irq 11: [ 3 4 5 6 7 10 11] low,level,sharable 0.17.0 \\_SB_.PCI0.FNC0.LNKB irq 11: [ 3 4 5 6 7 10 11] low,level,sharable 0.17.1 \\_SB_.PCI0.FNC0.LNKD irq 11: [ 3 4 5 6 7 10 11] low,level,sharable 0.10.0 \\_SB_.PCI0.FNC0.LNKC irq 11: [ 3 4 5 6 7 10 11] low,level,sharable 0.16.0 \\_SB_.PCI0.FNC0.LNKD irq 11: [ 3 4 5 6 7 10 11] low,level,sharable 0.16.1 \\_SB_.PCI0.FNC0.LNKH irq 11: [ 3 4 5 6 7 10 11] low,level,sharable 0.6.0 \\_SB_.PCI0.FNC0.LNKA irq 11: [ 3 4 5 6 7 10 11] low,level,sharable 0.18.0 \\_SB_.PCI0.FNC0.LNKG irq 11: [ 3 4 5 6 7 10 11] low,level,sharable 0.2.0 pci0: on pcib0 pci0: physical bus=0 map[10]: type 3, range 32, base f0000000, size 26, enabled found-> vendor=0x10b9, dev=0x1644, revid=0x01 bus=0, slot=0, func=0 class=06-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 cmdreg=0x0007, statreg=0xa210, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) powerspec 1 supports D0 D3 current D0 found-> vendor=0x10b9, dev=0x5247, revid=0x00 bus=0, slot=1, func=0 class=06-04-00, hdrtype=0x01, mfdev=0 cmdreg=0x0007, statreg=0x0400, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=0x08 (2000 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) map[10]: type 1, range 32, base f7eff000, size 12, enabled found-> vendor=0x10b9, dev=0x5237, revid=0x03 bus=0, slot=2, func=0 class=0c-03-10, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 cmdreg=0x0007, statreg=0x0290, cachelnsz=8 (dwords) lattimer=0x40 (1920 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x50 (20000 ns) intpin=a, irq=11 powerspec 2 supports D0 D3 current D0 map[20]: type 4, range 32, base 0000eff0, size 4, enabled found-> vendor=0x10b9, dev=0x5229, revid=0xc3 bus=0, slot=4, func=0 class=01-01-f0, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 cmdreg=0x0005, statreg=0x0290, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x40 (1920 ns), mingnt=0x02 (500 ns), maxlat=0x04 (1000 ns) intpin=a, irq=255 powerspec 2 supports D0 D3 current D0 map[10]: type 4, range 32, base 0000ed00, size 8, enabled map[14]: type 1, range 32, base f7efe000, size 12, enabled found-> vendor=0x10b9, dev=0x5451, revid=0x01 bus=0, slot=6, func=0 class=04-01-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 cmdreg=0x0007, statreg=0x0290, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x40 (1920 ns), mingnt=0x02 (500 ns), maxlat=0x18 (6000 ns) intpin=a, irq=11 powerspec 2 supports D0 D1 D2 D3 current D0 found-> vendor=0x10b9, dev=0x1533, revid=0x00 bus=0, slot=7, func=0 class=06-01-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 cmdreg=0x000f, statreg=0x0210, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) powerspec 1 supports D0 D3 current D0 found-> vendor=0x10b9, dev=0x7101, revid=0x00 bus=0, slot=8, func=0 class=06-80-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 cmdreg=0x0000, statreg=0x0200, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) map[10]: type 1, range 32, base f7efd000, size 12, enabled map[14]: type 4, range 32, base 0000eb40, size 6, enabled map[18]: type 1, range 32, base f7ec0000, size 17, enabled found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x1229, revid=0x0d bus=0, slot=10, func=0 class=02-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 cmdreg=0x0007, statreg=0x0290, cachelnsz=8 (dwords) lattimer=0x40 (1920 ns), mingnt=0x08 (2000 ns), maxlat=0x38 (14000 ns) intpin=a, irq=11 powerspec 2 supports D0 D1 D2 D3 current D0 found-> vendor=0x1179, dev=0x0617, revid=0x32 bus=0, slot=17, func=0 class=06-07-00, hdrtype=0x02, mfdev=1 cmdreg=0x0000, statreg=0x0490, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x40 (1920 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) intpin=a, irq=255 powerspec 1 supports D0 D3 current D0 found-> vendor=0x1179, dev=0x0617, revid=0x32 bus=0, slot=17, func=1 class=06-07-00, hdrtype=0x02, mfdev=1 cmdreg=0x0000, statreg=0x0490, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x40 (1920 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) intpin=b, irq=255 powerspec 1 supports D0 D3 current D0 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base f7ebfe00, size 9, enabled found-> vendor=0x1179, dev=0x0805, revid=0x03 bus=0, slot=18, func=0 class=08-80-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 cmdreg=0x0002, statreg=0x0210, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) intpin=a, irq=11 powerspec 2 supports D0 D1 D2 D3 current D0 agp0: mem 0xf0000000-0xf3ffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 agp0: allocating GATT for aperture of size 64M pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pcib1: secondary bus 1 pcib1: subordinate bus 1 pcib1: I/O decode 0xf000-0xfff pcib1: memory decode 0xf7f00000-0xfdffffff pcib1: prefetched decode 0xfff00000-0xfffff ---- initial configuration ------------------------ \\_SB_.PCI0.FNC0.LNKC irq 11: [ 3 4 5 6 7 10 11] low,level,sharable 1.0.0 ---- before setting priority for links ------------ ---- before fixup boot-disabled links ------------- ---- after fixup boot-disabled links -------------- ---- arbitrated configuration --------------------- \\_SB_.PCI0.FNC0.LNKC irq 11: [ 3 4 5 6 7 10 11] low,level,sharable 1.0.0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: physical bus=1 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base fc000000, size 25, enabled map[14]: type 1, range 32, base fbc00000, size 22, enabled map[18]: type 1, range 32, base f8000000, size 25, enabled map[1c]: type 1, range 32, base f7ff8000, size 15, enabled found-> vendor=0x1023, dev=0x8820, revid=0x82 bus=1, slot=0, func=0 class=03-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 cmdreg=0x0007, statreg=0x0230, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x08 (240 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) intpin=a, irq=11 powerspec 2 supports D0 D1 D2 D3 current D0 pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) ohci0: mem 0xf7eff000-0xf7efffff irq 11 at device 2.0 on pci0 usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: SMM does not respond, resetting usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: AcerLabs OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered umass0: TEAC TEAC FD-05PUB, rev 1.10/0.00, addr 2 umass0:0:0:-1: Attached to scbus0 atapci0: port 0xeff0-0xefff at device 4.0 on pci0 ata0: pre reset mask=03 ostat0=50 ostat2=00 ata0-master: ATAPI 00 00 ata0-slave: ATAPI 00 00 ata0: after reset mask=03 stat0=50 stat1=00 ata0-master: ATA 01 a5 ata0: devices=01 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: pre reset mask=03 ostat0=50 ostat2=00 ata1-master: ATAPI 14 eb ata1-slave: ATAPI 14 eb ata1: after reset mask=03 stat0=00 stat1=00 ata1: devices=0c ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pcm0: port 0xed00-0xedff mem 0xf7efe000-0xf7efefff irq 11 at device 6.0 on pci0 pcm0: pcm0: Codec features headphone, 18 bit DAC, 18 bit ADC, 5 bit master volume, AKM 3D Audio pcm0: sndbuf_setmap 7a0000, 1000; 0xc4bec000 -> 7a0000 pcm0: sndbuf_setmap 77d000, 1000; 0xc4be9000 -> 77d000 pcm0: sndbuf_setmap 75b000, 1000; 0xc4be7000 -> 75b000 pcm0: sndbuf_setmap 739000, 1000; 0xc4be5000 -> 739000 pcm0: sndbuf_setmap 737000, 1000; 0xc4be3000 -> 737000 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pci0: at device 8.0 (no driver attached) fxp0: port 0xeb40-0xeb7f mem 0xf7ec0000-0xf7edffff,0xf7efd000-0xf7efdfff irq 11 at device 10.0 on pci0 fxp0: using memory space register mapping fxp0: Ethernet address 00:00:39:bd:7b:b1 fxp0: PCI IDs: 8086 1229 1179 0001 000d fxp0: Dynamic Standby mode is disabled miibus0: on fxp0 inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp0: bpf attached cbb0: at device 17.0 on pci0 cardbus0: on cbb0 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 pcib0: matched entry for 0.17.INTA (source \\_SB_.PCI0.FNC0.LNKA) pcib0: slot 17 INTA is routed to irq 11 cbb1: at device 17.1 on pci0 cardbus1: on cbb1 pccard1: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb1 pcib0: matched entry for 0.17.INTB (source \\_SB_.PCI0.FNC0.LNKB) pcib0: slot 17 INTB is routed to irq 11 pci0: at device 18.0 (no driver attached) unknown: not probed (disabled) acpi_lid0: on acpi0 acpi_cmbat0: on acpi0 acpi_cmbat1: on acpi0 acpi_acad0: on acpi0 mss_probe: no address given, try 0x530 mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_probe: no address given, try 0x530 mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_probe: no address given, try 0x530 mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_probe: no address given, try 0x530 mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_probe: no address given, try 0x530 mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_probe: no address given, try 0x530 mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_probe: no address given, try 0x530 mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_probe: no address given, try 0x530 mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_probe: no address given, try 0x530 mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_probe: no address given, try 0x530 mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) unknown: not probed (disabled) mss_probe: no address given, try 0x530 mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 atkbd: the current kbd controller command byte 0047 atkbd: keyboard ID 0x41ab (2) kbd0 at atkbd0 kbd0: atkbd0, AT 101/102 (2), config:0x1, flags:0x3d0000 psm0: unable to allocate IRQ psmcpnp0 irq 12 on acpi0 psm0: current command byte:0047 psm0: flags 0x100 irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0-00, 2 buttons psm0: config:00000100, flags:00000000, packet size:3 psm0: syncmask:00, syncbits:00 sio0: irq maps: 0x201 0x211 0x201 0x201 sio0 port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A ppc0: using extended I/O port range ppc0: ECP SPP ECP+EPP SPP ppc0 port 0x778-0x77a,0x378-0x37f irq 7 drq 3 on acpi0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/15 bytes threshold ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 lp0: bpf attached lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 unknown: not probed (disabled) unknown: not probed (disabled) unknown: not probed (disabled) mss_probe: no address given, try 0x530 mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_probe: no address given, try 0x530 mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_probe: no address given, try 0x530 mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_probe: no address given, try 0x530 mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_probe: no address given, try 0x530 mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_probe: no address given, try 0x530 mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_probe: no address given, try 0x530 mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_probe: no address given, try 0x530 mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_probe: no address given, try 0x530 mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_probe: no address given, try 0x530 mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_probe: no address given, try 0x530 mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_probe: no address given, try 0x530 mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_probe: no address given, try 0x530 mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_probe: no address given, try 0x530 mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) unknown: not probed (disabled) mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) unknown: not probed (disabled) mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) unknown: not probed (disabled) unknown: not probed (disabled) unknown: not probed (disabled) mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) ata: ata0 already exists; skipping it ata: ata1 already exists; skipping it atkbdc: atkbdc0 already exists; skipping it ppc: ppc0 already exists; skipping it sio: sio0 already exists; skipping it Trying Read_Port at 203 Trying Read_Port at 243 Trying Read_Port at 283 Trying Read_Port at 2c3 Trying Read_Port at 303 Trying Read_Port at 343 Trying Read_Port at 383 Trying Read_Port at 3c3 sc: sc0 already exists; skipping it vga: vga0 already exists; skipping it isa_probe_children: disabling PnP devices isa_probe_children: probing non-PnP devices orm0: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" ### [arg]: arg optional #Option "ShadowFB" # [] #Option "VGAClocks" # [] #Option "SWcursor" # [] #Option "PciRetry" # [] #Option "NoAccel" "True" # [] #Option "SetMClk" # #Option "MUXThreshold" # #Option "ShadowFB" # [] #Option "Rotate" # [] #Option "VideoKey" # #Option "NoMMIO" # [] #Option "NoPciBurst" "True" # [] #Option "MMIOonly" # [] #Option "CyberShadow" # [] #Option "CyberStretch" # [] #Option "XvHsync" # #Option "XvVsync" # #Option "XvBskew" # #Option "XvRskew" # Identifier "Card0" Driver "trident" VendorName "Trident" BoardName "CyberBlade/XP/DSTN/Ai1" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1024x768" "1280x1024" "1400x1050" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection EndSection --=-=-= Content-Type: application/octet-stream Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=XFree86.0.log Content-Description: XFree86.0.log XFree86 Version 4.3.0 Release Date: 27 February 2003 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 5.1 i386 [ELF] Build Date: 08 May 2003 Before reporting problems, check http://www.XFree86.Org/ to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Thu May 8 17:46:33 2003 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config" (==) ServerLayout "XFree86 Configured" (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0" (**) | |-->Device "Card0" (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0" (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0" (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105" (**) XKB: model: "pc105" (**) Option "XkbLayout" "fr" (**) XKB: layout: "fr" (==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled (WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/freefont/" does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/webfonts/" does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (**) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/URW/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/bitstream-vera/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/" (**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) (--) using VT number 9 (II) Module ABI versions: XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.2 XFree86 Video Driver: 0.6 XFree86 XInput driver : 0.4 XFree86 Server Extension : 0.2 XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.4 (II) Loader running on freebsd (II) LoadModule: "bitmap" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a (II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.4 (II) Loading font Bitmap (II) LoadModule: "pcidata" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a (II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.6 (II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1 (II) PCI: Config type is 1 (II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x00000000, mode1Res1 = 0x80000000 (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex) (II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 10b9,1644 card 0000,0000 rev 01 class 06,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 10b9,5247 card 0000,0000 rev 00 class 06,04,00 hdr 01 (II) PCI: 00:02:0: chip 10b9,5237 card 1179,0004 rev 03 class 0c,03,10 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:04:0: chip 10b9,5229 card 1179,0004 rev c3 class 01,01,f0 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:06:0: chip 10b9,5451 card 1179,0001 rev 01 class 04,01,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:07:0: chip 10b9,1533 card 1179,0004 rev 00 class 06,01,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:08:0: chip 10b9,7101 card 1179,0001 rev 00 class 06,80,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:0a:0: chip 8086,1229 card 1179,0001 rev 0d class 02,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:11:0: chip 1179,0617 card fffc,0000 rev 32 class 06,07,00 hdr 82 (II) PCI: 00:11:1: chip 1179,0617 card fffc,0000 rev 32 class 06,07,00 hdr 82 (II) PCI: 00:12:0: chip 1179,0805 card 1179,0001 rev 03 class 08,80,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 1023,8820 card 1179,0001 rev 82 class 03,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: End of PCI scan (II) Host-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (0,0,4), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set) (II) Bus 0 I/O range: [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] (II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] (II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] (II) PCI-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set) (II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0xf7f00000 - 0xfdffffff (0x6100000) MX[B] (II) PCI-to-ISA bridge: (II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:7:0), (0,-1,-1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set) (II) PCI-to-CardBus bridge: (II) Bus 3: bridge is at (0:17:0), (0,3,3), BCTRL: 0x0400 (VGA_EN is cleared) (II) PCI-to-CardBus bridge: (II) Bus 4: bridge is at (0:17:1), (0,4,4), BCTRL: 0x0400 (VGA_EN is cleared) (--) PCI:*(1:0:0) Trident Microsystems CyberBlade XPAi1 rev 130, Mem @ 0xfc000000/25, 0xfbc00000/22, 0xf8000000/25, 0xf7ff8000/15 (II) Addressable bus resource ranges are [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] [1] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] (II) OS-reported resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [6] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xf0000000 from 0xffffffff to 0xefffffff (II) Active PCI resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0xf7ebfe00 - 0xf7ebffff (0x200) MX[B]E [1] -1 0 0xf7ec0000 - 0xf7efffff (0x40000) MX[B]E [2] -1 0 0xf7efd000 - 0xf7efdfff (0x1000) MX[B]E [3] -1 0 0xf7efe000 - 0xf7efffff (0x2000) MX[B]E [4] -1 0 0xf7eff000 - 0xf7efffff (0x1000) MX[B]E [5] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xefffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO [6] -1 0 0xf7ff8000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x8000) MX[B](B) [7] -1 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf9ffffff (0x2000000) MX[B](B) [8] -1 0 0xfbc00000 - 0xfbffffff (0x400000) MX[B](B) [9] -1 0 0xfc000000 - 0xfdffffff (0x2000000) MX[B](B) [10] -1 0 0x0000eb40 - 0x0000eb7f (0x40) IX[B]E [11] -1 0 0x0000ed00 - 0x0000edff (0x100) IX[B]E [12] -1 0 0x0000eff0 - 0x0000efff (0x10) IX[B]E (II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xf7ec0000 from 0xf7efffff to 0xf7edffff (II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xf7efe000 from 0xf7efffff to 0xf7efefff (II) Active PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps: [0] -1 0 0xf7ebfe00 - 0xf7ebffff (0x200) MX[B]E [1] -1 0 0xf7ec0000 - 0xf7edffff (0x20000) MX[B]E [2] -1 0 0xf7efd000 - 0xf7efdfff (0x1000) MX[B]E [3] -1 0 0xf7efe000 - 0xf7efefff (0x1000) MX[B]E [4] -1 0 0xf7eff000 - 0xf7efffff (0x1000) MX[B]E [5] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xefffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO [6] -1 0 0xf7ff8000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x8000) MX[B](B) [7] -1 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf9ffffff (0x2000000) MX[B](B) [8] -1 0 0xfbc00000 - 0xfbffffff (0x400000) MX[B](B) [9] -1 0 0xfc000000 - 0xfdffffff (0x2000000) MX[B](B) [10] -1 0 0x0000eb40 - 0x0000eb7f (0x40) IX[B]E [11] -1 0 0x0000ed00 - 0x0000edff (0x100) IX[B]E [12] -1 0 0x0000eff0 - 0x0000efff (0x10) IX[B]E (II) OS-reported resource ranges after removing overlaps with PCI: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [6] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) All system resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0xf7ebfe00 - 0xf7ebffff (0x200) MX[B]E [6] -1 0 0xf7ec0000 - 0xf7edffff (0x20000) MX[B]E [7] -1 0 0xf7efd000 - 0xf7efdfff (0x1000) MX[B]E [8] -1 0 0xf7efe000 - 0xf7efefff (0x1000) MX[B]E [9] -1 0 0xf7eff000 - 0xf7efffff (0x1000) MX[B]E [10] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xefffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO [11] -1 0 0xf7ff8000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x8000) MX[B](B) [12] -1 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf9ffffff (0x2000000) MX[B](B) [13] -1 0 0xfbc00000 - 0xfbffffff (0x400000) MX[B](B) [14] -1 0 0xfc000000 - 0xfdffffff (0x2000000) MX[B](B) [15] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [16] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [17] -1 0 0x0000eb40 - 0x0000eb7f (0x40) IX[B]E [18] -1 0 0x0000ed00 - 0x0000edff (0x100) IX[B]E [19] -1 0 0x0000eff0 - 0x0000efff (0x10) IX[B]E (II) LoadModule: "extmod" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libextmod.a (II) Module extmod: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 Server Extension ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension SHAPE (II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD (II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS (II) Loading extension SYNC (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (II) Loading extension XC-MISC (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension (II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA (II) Loading extension DPMS (II) Loading extension FontCache (II) Loading extension TOG-CUP (II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information (II) Loading extension XVideo (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation (II) Loading extension X-Resource (II) LoadModule: "glx" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a (II) Module glx: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading sub module "GLcore" (II) LoadModule: "GLcore" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a (II) Module GLcore: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension GLX (II) LoadModule: "dri" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a (II) Module dri: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading sub module "drm" (II) LoadModule: "drm" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/freebsd/libdrm.a (II) Module drm: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI (II) LoadModule: "dbe" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.a (II) Module dbe: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 Server Extension ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER (II) LoadModule: "freetype" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.a (II) Module freetype: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 2.0.2 Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.4 (II) Loading font FreeType (II) LoadModule: "bitmap" (II) Reloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a (II) Loading font Bitmap (II) LoadModule: "speedo" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libspeedo.a (II) Module speedo: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.1 Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.4 (II) Loading font Speedo (II) LoadModule: "type1" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libtype1.a (II) Module type1: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.2 Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.4 (II) Loading font Type1 (II) Loading font CID (II) LoadModule: "trident" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/trident_drv.o (II) Module trident: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 Video Driver ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.6 (II) LoadModule: "mouse" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o (II) Module mouse: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 XInput Driver ABI class: XFree86 XInput driver, version 0.4 (II) TRIDENT: driver for Trident chipsets: tvga9000, tvga9000i, tvga8900c, tvga8900d, tvga9200cxr, tgui9400cxi, cyber9320, cyber9388, cyber9397, cyber9397dvd, cyber9520, cyber9525dvd, cyberblade/e4, tgui9420dgi, tgui9440agi, tgui9660, tgui9680, providia9682, providia9685, cyber9382, cyber9385, 3dimage975, 3dimage985, blade3d, cyberbladei7, cyberbladei7d, cyberbladei1, cyberbladei1d, cyberbladeAi1, cyberbladeAi1d, bladeXP, cyberbladeXPAi1 (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0 (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device (--) Chipset cyberbladeXPAi1 found (II) resource ranges after xf86ClaimFixedResources() call: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0xf7ebfe00 - 0xf7ebffff (0x200) MX[B]E [6] -1 0 0xf7ec0000 - 0xf7edffff (0x20000) MX[B]E [7] -1 0 0xf7efd000 - 0xf7efdfff (0x1000) MX[B]E [8] -1 0 0xf7efe000 - 0xf7efefff (0x1000) MX[B]E [9] -1 0 0xf7eff000 - 0xf7efffff (0x1000) MX[B]E [10] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xefffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO [11] -1 0 0xf7ff8000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x8000) MX[B](B) [12] -1 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf9ffffff (0x2000000) MX[B](B) [13] -1 0 0xfbc00000 - 0xfbffffff (0x400000) MX[B](B) [14] -1 0 0xfc000000 - 0xfdffffff (0x2000000) MX[B](B) [15] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [16] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [17] -1 0 0x0000eb40 - 0x0000eb7f (0x40) IX[B]E [18] -1 0 0x0000ed00 - 0x0000edff (0x100) IX[B]E [19] -1 0 0x0000eff0 - 0x0000efff (0x10) IX[B]E (II) resource ranges after probing: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0xf7ebfe00 - 0xf7ebffff (0x200) MX[B]E [6] -1 0 0xf7ec0000 - 0xf7edffff (0x20000) MX[B]E [7] -1 0 0xf7efd000 - 0xf7efdfff (0x1000) MX[B]E [8] -1 0 0xf7efe000 - 0xf7efefff (0x1000) MX[B]E [9] -1 0 0xf7eff000 - 0xf7efffff (0x1000) MX[B]E [10] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xefffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO [11] -1 0 0xf7ff8000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x8000) MX[B](B) [12] -1 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf9ffffff (0x2000000) MX[B](B) [13] -1 0 0xfbc00000 - 0xfbffffff (0x400000) MX[B](B) [14] -1 0 0xfc000000 - 0xfdffffff (0x2000000) MX[B](B) [15] 0 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B] [16] 0 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B] [17] 0 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B] [18] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [19] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [20] -1 0 0x0000eb40 - 0x0000eb7f (0x40) IX[B]E [21] -1 0 0x0000ed00 - 0x0000edff (0x100) IX[B]E [22] -1 0 0x0000eff0 - 0x0000efff (0x10) IX[B]E [23] 0 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B] [24] 0 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B] (II) Setting vga for screen 0. (**) TRIDENT(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32 (II) Loading sub module "vgahw" (II) LoadModule: "vgahw" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvgahw.a (II) Module vgahw: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.6 (II) TRIDENT(0): vgaHWGetIOBase: hwp->IOBase is 0x03d0, hwp->PIOOffset is 0x0000 (II) Loading sub module "ramdac" (II) LoadModule: "ramdac" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libramdac.a (II) Module ramdac: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.6 (==) TRIDENT(0): RGB weight 888 (==) TRIDENT(0): Default visual is TrueColor (==) TRIDENT(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) (==) TRIDENT(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xFC000000 (--) TRIDENT(0): IO registers at 0xFBC00000 (II) Loading sub module "vbe" (II) LoadModule: "vbe" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvbe.a (II) Module vbe: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.1.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.6 (II) Loading sub module "int10" (II) LoadModule: "int10" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libint10.a (II) Module int10: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.6 (II) TRIDENT(0): initializing int10 (==) TRIDENT(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x20000) was already clear (==) TRIDENT(0): Write-combining range (0xc0000,0x40000) was already clear (II) TRIDENT(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000 (==) TRIDENT(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear (II) TRIDENT(0): VESA BIOS detected (II) TRIDENT(0): VESA VBE Version 2.0 (II) TRIDENT(0): VESA VBE Total Mem: 16384 kB (II) TRIDENT(0): VESA VBE OEM: Trident CYBER 8820 (II) TRIDENT(0): VESA VBE OEM Software Rev: 2.0 (II) TRIDENT(0): VESA VBE OEM Vendor: TRIDENT MICROSYSTEMS INC. (II) TRIDENT(0): VESA VBE OEM Product: CYBER 8820 (II) TRIDENT(0): VESA VBE OEM Product Rev: KTT 7.1 (13.19) (II) Loading sub module "ddc" (II) LoadModule: "ddc" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libddc.a (II) Module ddc: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.6 f000:386d: 01 ILLEGAL EXTENDED X86 OPCODE! (II) TRIDENT(0): VESA VBE DDC not supported (==) TRIDENT(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear (==) TRIDENT(0): Write-combining range (0xfbc00000,0x20000) was already clear (--) TRIDENT(0): Revision is 131 (--) TRIDENT(0): Found CyberBladeXPAi1 chip (--) TRIDENT(0): RAM type is SGRAM (--) TRIDENT(0): Using HW cursor (--) TRIDENT(0): VideoRAM: 16384 kByte (--) TRIDENT(0): TFT Panel 1024x768 found (--) TRIDENT(0): Memory Clock is 60.00 MHz (==) TRIDENT(0): Min pixel clock is 12 MHz (--) TRIDENT(0): Max pixel clock is 115 MHz (II) TRIDENT(0): Monitor0: Using hsync range of 31.50-64.30 kHz (II) TRIDENT(0): Monitor0: Using vrefresh range of 50.00-100.00 Hz (II) TRIDENT(0): Clock range: 12.00 to 115.00 MHz (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "320x175" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "320x200" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "360x200" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "320x240" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "320x240" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "320x240" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "320x240" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (hsync out of range) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Removing mode (1152x864) larger than the LCD panel (1024x768) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "1152x864" (unknown reason) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "576x432" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Removing mode (1280x960) larger than the LCD panel (1024x768) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "1280x960" (unknown reason) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "1280x960" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Removing mode (1280x1024) larger than the LCD panel (1024x768) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (unknown reason) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "640x512" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "640x512" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "640x512" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "1792x1344" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "896x672" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "1792x1344" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "896x672" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "1856x1392" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "928x696" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "1856x1392" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "928x696" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "416x312" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Removing mode (1152x768) larger than the LCD panel (1024x768) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "1152x768" (unknown reason) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "576x384" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "700x525" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "700x525" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Removing mode (1600x1024) larger than the LCD panel (1024x768) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "1600x1024" (unknown reason) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "800x512" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (--) TRIDENT(0): Virtual size is 1024x768 (pitch 1024) (**) TRIDENT(0): *Default mode "1024x768": 78.8 MHz, 60.1 kHz, 75.1 Hz (II) TRIDENT(0): Modeline "1024x768" 78.80 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync (**) TRIDENT(0): Default mode "1024x768": 75.0 MHz, 56.5 kHz, 70.1 Hz (II) TRIDENT(0): Modeline "1024x768" 75.00 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (**) TRIDENT(0): Default mode "1024x768": 65.0 MHz, 48.4 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) TRIDENT(0): Modeline "1024x768" 65.00 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (**) TRIDENT(0): Default mode "1024x768": 44.9 MHz, 35.5 kHz, 87.1 Hz (I) (II) TRIDENT(0): Modeline "1024x768" 44.90 1024 1032 1208 1264 768 768 776 817 interlace +hsync +vsync (**) TRIDENT(0): Default mode "832x624": 57.3 MHz, 49.7 kHz, 74.6 Hz (II) TRIDENT(0): Modeline "832x624" 57.28 832 864 928 1152 624 625 628 667 -hsync -vsync (**) TRIDENT(0): Default mode "800x600": 56.3 MHz, 53.7 kHz, 85.1 Hz (II) TRIDENT(0): Modeline "800x600" 56.30 800 832 896 1048 600 601 604 631 +hsync +vsync (**) TRIDENT(0): Default mode "800x600": 49.5 MHz, 46.9 kHz, 75.0 Hz (II) TRIDENT(0): Modeline "800x600" 49.50 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync (**) TRIDENT(0): Default mode "800x600": 50.0 MHz, 48.1 kHz, 72.2 Hz (II) TRIDENT(0): Modeline "800x600" 50.00 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync (**) TRIDENT(0): Default mode "800x600": 40.0 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 60.3 Hz (II) TRIDENT(0): Modeline "800x600" 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (**) TRIDENT(0): Default mode "800x600": 36.0 MHz, 35.2 kHz, 56.2 Hz (II) TRIDENT(0): Modeline "800x600" 36.00 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync (**) TRIDENT(0): Default mode "640x480": 36.0 MHz, 43.3 kHz, 85.0 Hz (II) TRIDENT(0): Modeline "640x480" 36.00 640 696 752 832 480 481 484 509 -hsync -vsync (**) TRIDENT(0): Default mode "640x480": 31.5 MHz, 37.5 kHz, 75.0 Hz (II) TRIDENT(0): Modeline "640x480" 31.50 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync (**) TRIDENT(0): Default mode "640x480": 31.5 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 72.8 Hz (II) TRIDENT(0): Modeline "640x480" 31.50 640 664 704 832 480 489 491 520 -hsync -vsync (**) TRIDENT(0): Default mode "640x480": 25.2 MHz, 31.5 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) TRIDENT(0): Modeline "640x480" 25.20 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (**) TRIDENT(0): Default mode "720x400": 35.5 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 85.0 Hz (II) TRIDENT(0): Modeline "720x400" 35.50 720 756 828 936 400 401 404 446 -hsync +vsync (**) TRIDENT(0): Default mode "640x400": 31.5 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 85.1 Hz (II) TRIDENT(0): Modeline "640x400" 31.50 640 672 736 832 400 401 404 445 -hsync +vsync (**) TRIDENT(0): Default mode "640x350": 31.5 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 85.1 Hz (II) TRIDENT(0): Modeline "640x350" 31.50 640 672 736 832 350 382 385 445 +hsync -vsync (==) TRIDENT(0): DPI set to (75, 75) (II) Loading sub module "fb" (II) LoadModule: "fb" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a (II) Module fb: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 ANSI C Emulation, version 0.2 (II) Loading sub module "i2c" (II) LoadModule: "i2c" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libi2c.a (II) Module i2c: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.2.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.6 (II) Loading sub module "xaa" (II) LoadModule: "xaa" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libxaa.a (II) Module xaa: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.1.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.6 (II) Loading sub module "ddc" (II) LoadModule: "ddc" (II) Reloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libddc.a (--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp (II) do I need RAC? No, I don't. (II) resource ranges after preInit: [0] 0 0 0xf7ff8000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x8000) MX[B] [1] 0 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf9ffffff (0x2000000) MX[B] [2] 0 0 0xfbc00000 - 0xfbffffff (0x400000) MX[B] [3] 0 0 0xfc000000 - 0xfdffffff (0x2000000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [5] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [6] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [7] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [8] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [9] -1 0 0xf7ebfe00 - 0xf7ebffff (0x200) MX[B]E [10] -1 0 0xf7ec0000 - 0xf7edffff (0x20000) MX[B]E [11] -1 0 0xf7efd000 - 0xf7efdfff (0x1000) MX[B]E [12] -1 0 0xf7efe000 - 0xf7efefff (0x1000) MX[B]E [13] -1 0 0xf7eff000 - 0xf7efffff (0x1000) MX[B]E [14] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xefffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO [15] -1 0 0xf7ff8000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x8000) MX[B](B) [16] -1 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf9ffffff (0x2000000) MX[B](B) [17] -1 0 0xfbc00000 - 0xfbffffff (0x400000) MX[B](B) [18] -1 0 0xfc000000 - 0xfdffffff (0x2000000) MX[B](B) [19] 0 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B](OprU) [20] 0 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B](OprU) [21] 0 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B](OprU) [22] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [23] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [24] -1 0 0x0000eb40 - 0x0000eb7f (0x40) IX[B]E [25] -1 0 0x0000ed00 - 0x0000edff (0x100) IX[B]E [26] -1 0 0x0000eff0 - 0x0000efff (0x10) IX[B]E [27] 0 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B](OprU) [28] 0 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B](OprU) (==) TRIDENT(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x10000) was already clear (==) TRIDENT(0): Write-combining range (0xfbc00000,0x20000) was already clear (==) TRIDENT(0): Write-combining range (0xfc000000,0x1000000) (II) Loading sub module "int10" (II) LoadModule: "int10" (II) Reloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libint10.a (II) TRIDENT(0): Initializing int10 (==) TRIDENT(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x20000) was already clear (II) TRIDENT(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000 (==) TRIDENT(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear (II) TRIDENT(0): Overriding Horizontal timings. (II) TRIDENT(0): Shadow off (II) TRIDENT(0): H-timing shadow registers: 0xa3 0x00 0x84 0x94 (II) TRIDENT(0): H-timing registers: 0xa3 0x7f 0x7f 0x00 0x84 0x94 (II) TRIDENT(0): V-timing shadow registers: 0x24 0xf5 0x03 0x09 0x24 (0x08) (II) TRIDENT(0): V-timing registers: 0x24 0xf5 0x03 0x09 0xff 0x00 0x24 (II) TRIDENT(0): Setting BIOS Mode Regs: 3b 63 (II) TRIDENT(0): Found Clock 65.00 n=219 m=23 k=1 (II) TRIDENT(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA) Screen to screen bit blits Solid filled rectangles 8x8 mono pattern filled rectangles Solid Horizontal and Vertical Lines Offscreen Pixmaps Setting up tile and stipple cache: 32 128x128 slots 10 256x256 slots (==) TRIDENT(0): Backing store disabled (==) TRIDENT(0): Silken mouse enabled (II) TRIDENT(0): Trident Video Flags: VID_ZOOM_INV VID_OFF_SHIFT_4 (==) RandR enabled (II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM (II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension (II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST (II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD (II) Initializing built-in extension LBX (II) Initializing built-in extension XC-APPGROUP (II) Initializing built-in extension SECURITY (II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA (II) Initializing built-in extension XFree86-Bigfont (II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER (II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR (**) Option "Protocol" "PS/2" (**) Mouse0: Protocol: "PS/2" (**) Option "CorePointer" (**) Mouse0: Core Pointer (**) Option "Device" "/dev/psm0" (**) Mouse0: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50 (==) Mouse0: Buttons: 3 (II) Keyboard "Keyboard0" handled by legacy driver (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse0" (type: MOUSE) (WW) fcntl(7, O_ASYNC): Inappropriate ioctl for device Warning: font renderer for ".pcf" already registered at priority 0 Warning: font renderer for ".pcf.Z" already registered at priority 0 Warning: font renderer for ".pcf.gz" already registered at priority 0 Warning: font renderer for ".snf" already registered at priority 0 Warning: font renderer for ".snf.Z" already registered at priority 0 Warning: font renderer for ".snf.gz" already registered at priority 0 Warning: font renderer for ".bdf" already registered at priority 0 Warning: font renderer for ".bdf.Z" already registered at priority 0 Warning: font renderer for ".bdf.gz" already registered at priority 0 Warning: font renderer for ".pmf" already registered at priority 0 (II) 3rd Button detected: disabling emulate3Button --=-=-=-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 14:16:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B294737B4C4; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:16:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F29543F85; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:16:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from arno@heho.snv.jussieu.fr) Received: from heho.snv.jussieu.fr (heho.snv.jussieu.fr [134.157.184.22]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.12.9/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id h48LGdru046088 ; Thu, 8 May 2003 23:16:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from heho.snv.jussieu.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h48LGdqx005709 ; Thu, 8 May 2003 23:16:39 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from arno@localhost) by heho.snv.jussieu.fr (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h48LGdkq005706; Thu, 8 May 2003 23:16:39 +0200 (MEST) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: From: arno@heho.snv.jussieu.fr Date: 08 May 2003 23:16:39 +0200 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lines: 7 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Antivirus: scanned by sophie at shiva.jussieu.fr cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mmake / maake (Toshiba Satelite 6000 X11 keyboard weirdness) X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 21:16:42 -0000 Follow-up to myself : - I did a portupgrade -fR XFree86-Server after the last world - keyboard works OK when booting Windows 2000 Arno From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 14:39:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5663237B401; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:39:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from horse09.daimi.au.dk (horse09.daimi.au.dk [130.225.18.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B75BF43F93; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:39:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhazn@daimi.au.dk) Received: (from rhazn@localhost) by horse09.daimi.au.dk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h48LdBQ09000; Thu, 8 May 2003 23:39:11 +0200 Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 23:39:11 +0200 From: Peter Gade Jensen To: arno@heho.snv.jussieu.fr Message-ID: <20030508213911.GA8706@horse09.daimi.au.dk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 33AF B563 58F1 04AB 417E AA69 06C6 32AC 5AD1 6815 X-GPG-URL: http://daimi.au.dk/~rhazn/gpgkey.asc cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mmake / maake (Toshiba Satelite 6000 X11 keyboard weirdness) X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 21:39:16 -0000 On Thu, May 08, 2003 at 11:02:33PM +0200, arno@heho.snv.jussieu.fr wrote: > I rrun -curreent on a Toshiba sattellite Pro 6000 for over > a month with no particular problem, other than a very > irrittating "keyboard echo" when in X11 mode. The ever so irritating toshiba-keyboard-fuckup. Put the following in a file, chmod +x it and load it from ~/.xinitrc when you start X. You need to install xkbset though. if [ -x /usr/X11R6/bin/xkbset ]; then xkbset m xkbset exp =m xkbset sl 5 xkbset exp =sl xkbset -f slowaccept xkbset exp =f =slowaccept fi /Peter -- If God had a beard, he'd be a UNIX programmer. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 14:52:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B45C937B401; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:52:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9267A43F93; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:52:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from arno@heho.snv.jussieu.fr) Received: from heho.snv.jussieu.fr (heho.snv.jussieu.fr [134.157.184.22]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.12.9/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id h48Lqnru066974 ; Thu, 8 May 2003 23:52:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from heho.snv.jussieu.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h48Lqnqx005914 ; Thu, 8 May 2003 23:52:49 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from arno@localhost) by heho.snv.jussieu.fr (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h48LqnOf005911; Thu, 8 May 2003 23:52:49 +0200 (MEST) To: Peter Gade Jensen References: <20030508213911.GA8706@horse09.daimi.au.dk> From: arno@heho.snv.jussieu.fr Date: 08 May 2003 23:52:49 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20030508213911.GA8706@horse09.daimi.au.dk> Message-ID: Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Antivirus: scanned by sophie at shiva.jussieu.fr cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mmake / maake (Toshiba Satelite 6000 X11 keyboard weirdness) X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 21:52:56 -0000 Peter, > On Thu, May 08, 2003 at 11:02:33PM +0200, arno@heho.snv.jussieu.fr wrote: > > I rrun -curreent on a Toshiba sattellite Pro 6000 for over > > a month with no particular problem, other than a very > > irrittating "keyboard echo" when in X11 mode. > > The ever so irritating toshiba-keyboard-fuckup. > Put the following in a file, chmod +x it and load it from ~/.xinitrc > when you start X. You need to install xkbset though. > > if [ -x /usr/X11R6/bin/xkbset ]; then > xkbset m > xkbset exp =m > xkbset sl 5 > xkbset exp =sl > xkbset -f slowaccept > xkbset exp =f =slowaccept > fi yes! Thanx a lot (I should have asked much earlier ^_^) Arno From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 14:57:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7766137B401 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:57:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com (msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com [192.25.240.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A942D43FAF for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:57:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from darrylo@soco.agilent.com) Received: from relcos2.cos.agilent.com (relcos2.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.237]) by msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7374A170AC for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 15:57:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by relcos2.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22DB4724 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 15:57:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) SMKit7.1.1_Agilent) with ESMTP id OAA02552 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200305082157.OAA02552@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 08 May 2003 10:03:36 PDT." <200305081003360290.308467BC@smtp.myrealbox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 14:57:39 -0700 From: Darryl Okahata Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Darryl Okahata List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 21:57:42 -0000 "Greg Smith" wrote: > Note that if you have the CD you don't need to preserve the convenient > recovery partition. The Windows recovery will work just as well with > the CD, and will give you the option to restore the recovery partition > as well, although the CD might not be traveling with you when you most > need it. In this case, I think you're best off just restoring windows from the CD, without restoring the recovery partition. IIRC (and I'm not 100% sure), I think restoring the recovery partition causes the entire disk to be repartitioned, blowing away any existing FreeBSD partition. I think the entire drive also gets re-dedicated to windows (with the exception of the recovery partition). -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 14:59:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6304F37B401 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:59:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ece.cmu.edu (ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.136.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C0243F75 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:59:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from allbery@ece.cmu.edu) Received: from rushlight (allbery@allbery.dsl.telerama.com [205.201.8.182]) (authenticated) by ece.cmu.edu (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h48Lxl319195; Thu, 8 May 2003 17:59:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon S. Allbery " KF8NH To: Darryl Okahata In-Reply-To: <200305082157.OAA02552@mina.soco.agilent.com> References: <200305082157.OAA02552@mina.soco.agilent.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1052431185.35649.9.camel@rushlight.kf8nh.apk.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 Date: 08 May 2003 17:59:46 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 21:59:52 -0000 On Thu, 2003-05-08 at 17:57, Darryl Okahata wrote: > the CD, without restoring the recovery partition. IIRC (and I'm not > 100% sure), I think restoring the recovery partition causes the entire > disk to be repartitioned, blowing away any existing FreeBSD partition. > I think the entire drive also gets re-dedicated to windows (with the > exception of the recovery partition). Yes. -- brandon s allbery [openafs/solaris/japh/freebsd] allbery@kf8nh.apk.net system administrator [linux/heimdal/too many hats] allbery@ece.cmu.edu electrical and computer engineering KF8NH carnegie mellon university [better check the oblivious first -ke6sls] From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 16:26:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2D1437B401; Thu, 8 May 2003 16:26:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.altadena.net (ns.altadena.net [207.151.161.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 014C843FB1; Thu, 8 May 2003 16:26:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pete@ns.altadena.net) Received: from ns.altadena.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns.altadena.net (8.12.8p1/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h48NQGRe062228; Thu, 8 May 2003 16:26:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pete@ns.altadena.net) Received: (from pete@localhost) by ns.altadena.net (8.12.8p1/8.12.3/Submit) id h48NQD6K062227; Thu, 8 May 2003 16:26:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pete) From: Pete Carah Message-Id: <200305082326.h48NQD6K062227@ns.altadena.net> To: mobile@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 16:26:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Shared-key auth on Orinoco card X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 23:26:18 -0000 Shared-key auth doesn't work on my (any, if I believe the source code) Orinoco built-in 802.11b card. Going through the wi source, it looks like it only works on one version of one manufacturer (3com?). Is there any plan to do something with this? (or is it one more thing that isn't known about the "hermes" chipset?) Windoze (XP home) handles this situation fine, so I know the card is capable of it. (then again, windoze handles the Sierra card fine too; I have it sort of working in bsd but it is SLOW. And Sierra won't release their card's API even WITH a NDA.) -- Pete From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 16:28:44 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 709A037B404 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 16:28:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A59F43F75 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 16:28:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (vince@localhost.WURLDLINK.NET [127.0.0.1]) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.12.9/8.11.3) with ESMTP id h48NSe76034659; Thu, 8 May 2003 13:28:40 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost)h48NSdxa034654; Thu, 8 May 2003 13:28:39 -1000 (HST) Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 13:28:39 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: Greg Smith In-Reply-To: <200305081003360290.308467BC@smtp.myrealbox.com> Message-ID: <20030508132739.T10468-100000@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 23:28:44 -0000 On Thu, 8 May 2003, Greg Smith wrote: > > Kevin wrote: > >Darryl wrote: > >> Note that you don't have to preserve the IBM software. You can > always > >> wipe the disk clean and install FreeBSD onto the entire disk. > It's > >> only if you want to dual-boot where this becomes a problem. And, > >> it's definitely an issue, as some (many? most? all?) Thinkpads DO > NOT > >> COME WITH WINDOWS RECOVERY CDROMS. Unless you pay extra > ($20-$30???) > >> and order the recovery CDROMs from IBM (I think they're "free" if > you > >> get them within the first 30 days after getting a Thinkpad), the > only > >> way to "reinstall" windows is via the special recovery partition > (and > >> using it REQUIRES an intact/unchanged boot sector). > > > >For some period after you buy a ThinkPad (1 year?) IBM has shipped the > >CD free on request. IF YOU GET A THINKPAD, ALWAYS REQUEST THIS! > > The last times I bought a ThinkPad they told me 30 days for free, but > regardless it makes sense to get it right away for free. > > Note that if you have the CD you don't need to preserve the convenient > recovery partition. The Windows recovery will work just as well with > the CD, and will give you the option to restore the recovery partition > as well, although the CD might not be traveling with you when you most > need it. > > Greg I think the 30 days is only for software support and installation issues. The CD you can get for up to the amount of time your warranty is good for. On my 770Z, I can get the CD like anytime before 3 years is up. Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 17:54:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8630F37B401; Thu, 8 May 2003 17:54:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from volatile.chemikals.org (cae88-48-006.sc.rr.com [24.88.48.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7697F43FBD; Thu, 8 May 2003 17:54:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Received: from localhost (morganw@localhost [127.0.0.1]) h490sSHx038901; Thu, 8 May 2003 20:54:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 20:54:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Wesley Morgan To: arno@heho.snv.jussieu.fr In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030508205152.R36663@volatile.chemikals.org> References: <20030508213911.GA8706@horse09.daimi.au.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mmake / maake (Toshiba Satelite 6000 X11 keyboard weirdness) X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 00:54:35 -0000 On Thu, 8 May 2003 arno@heho.snv.jussieu.fr wrote: > Peter, > > > if [ -x /usr/X11R6/bin/xkbset ]; then > > xkbset m > > xkbset exp =m > > xkbset sl 5 > > xkbset exp =sl > > xkbset -f slowaccept > > xkbset exp =f =slowaccept > > fi > > yes! Thanx a lot (I should have asked much earlier ^_^) The culprit is xkb. If you don't need it (which you probably don't), put the line in your ServerFlags section: Option "XkbDisable" This will correct the problem. I'm not sure how well those xkbset rules work, but if they are anything like AccessX, when your system is under very high load you will find your keyboard quite nonfunctional as well as moderate load forcing you to type very slowly. -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 21:51:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1982E37B401 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 21:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E331443FAF for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 21:51:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.8/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h494ogTl025141; Thu, 8 May 2003 22:51:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 22:50:22 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20030508.225022.02275677.imp@bsdimp.com> To: alej@agriroot.aua.gr From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wi question X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 04:51:09 -0000 In message: Alej Lekatsas writes: : Is the a way to control the transmit output power on wi card ? Yes. However, it isn't in the tree because I don't want to enable people's breaking the law. However, there's some power level code in NetBSD (soon) that allows one to nail the power at a higher level which can be useful w/o exceeding what the card is calibrated to. Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 00:20:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8082337B401 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 00:20:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp3.vol.cz (smtp3.vol.cz [195.250.128.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2183343F93 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 00:20:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pav@oook.cz) Received: from [172.19.10.16] (e0-a3.b1.lan.prg.vol.cz [195.122.204.155]) by smtp3.vol.cz (8.12.6p2/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h497KkDx090174; Fri, 9 May 2003 09:20:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pav@oook.cz) From: Pav Lucistnik To: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20030508.225022.02275677.imp@bsdimp.com> References: <20030508.225022.02275677.imp@bsdimp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO8859-2 Organization: Message-Id: <1052464845.73097.3.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.4 Date: 09 May 2003 09:20:45 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wi question X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 07:20:58 -0000 V pá, 09. 05. 2003 v 06.50, M. Warner Losh napsal: > : Is the a way to control the transmit output power on wi card ? > > Yes. However, it isn't in the tree because I don't want to enable > people's breaking the law. However, there's some power level code in > NetBSD (soon) that allows one to nail the power at a higher level > which can be useful w/o exceeding what the card is calibrated to. We would love to *lower* power level of our cards... Can you make the patch available? -- Pav Lucistnik Fate it seems is not without a sense of irony. (the matrix) From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 00:34:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A32837B401 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 00:34:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns3.safety.net (ns3.safety.net [216.40.201.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B5743F93 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 00:34:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cbiffle@safety.net) Received: from localhost (rs.rackshack.net.safety.net [216.40.201.32]) by ns3.safety.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h497Y9A11822; Fri, 9 May 2003 00:34:10 -0700 From: "Cliff L. Biffle" To: Pav Lucistnik Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 00:34:17 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <20030508.225022.02275677.imp@bsdimp.com> <1052464845.73097.3.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> In-Reply-To: <1052464845.73097.3.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305090034.17432.cbiffle@safety.net> cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wi question X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 07:34:14 -0000 On Friday 09 May 2003 12:20 am, Pav Lucistnik wrote: > We would love to *lower* power level of our cards... Can you make the > patch available? This won't affect your tx power, but if you're trying to lower power -consumption-, we do have the powersave ifconfig command. ifconfig wi0 powersave #starts ifconfig wi0 -powersave #stops -Cliff L. Biffle From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 01:03:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A800337B42A for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 01:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from foem.leiden.webweaving.org (fia224-72.dsl.hccnet.nl [62.251.72.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C5743F93 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 01:03:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dirkx@webweaving.org) Received: from foem (IDENT:chuckwebweaving.org@foem [10.11.0.2]) h4980KxW099736; Fri, 9 May 2003 10:00:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from dirkx@webweaving.org) Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 10:00:20 +0200 (CEST) From: Dirk-Willem van Gulik X-X-Sender: dirkx@foem To: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20030508.225022.02275677.imp@bsdimp.com> Message-ID: <20030509095608.O50944-100000@foem> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wi question X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 08:03:42 -0000 On Thu, 8 May 2003, M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: > Alej Lekatsas writes: > : Is the a way to control the transmit output power on wi card ? > > Yes. However, it isn't in the tree because I don't want to enable > people's breaking the law. However, there's some power level code in Actually Warner, that usually works the -other- direction. I.e. you want to be able to reduce the output when you are using a good directional antenna. Part of this is to comply with the 100mWatt EIRP regulation of ISM. But more so to not over saturate a receiver at the other end or make aggregation points possible. We regularly at www.wirelessleiden.net are forced to swap a Senao card for a WMP11 just so that we reduce the power on a link. So right now; given that almost all cards output (a lot) less than 100mWatt and that one or two connectors will easily half that - and given that most people us directional antenna's - the legal argument would argue for certanly the ability to -lower- the output of cards. Not worry about people setting it higher. Dw From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 01:17:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F136F37B401 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 01:17:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay4.mail.uk.psi.net (relay4.mail.uk.psi.net [154.32.111.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E25443FBD for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 01:17:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmlb@dmlb.org) Received: from gate.ttpcom.com ([193.119.175.2] helo=vader) by relay4.mail.uk.psi.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 19E34Q-0004kv-00 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Fri, 9 May 2003 09:17:34 +0100 Received: from ([193.119.172.14]) by vader; Fri, 09 May 2003 09:06:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from matrix [193.119.172.14] by matrix.ttpcom.com (SMTPD32-7.07) id A51972D1014C; Fri, 09 May 2003 09:21:45 +0100 Received: FROM DJK1Comp BY matrix ; Fri May 09 09:21:45 2003 +0100 Message-ID: <025401c31603$750e4bd0$a7ac77c1@DJK1Comp> From: "Duncan Barclay" To: Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 09:17:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Subject: FreeBSD and Centrino X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 08:17:38 -0000 Hi Just bought a Centrino based laptop. Has anyone had ay further luck with them, someone in April claimed 4.8 would not boot on a Sony Z1MP. Also anyone working on a driver for the 802.11b included? If not I'll try and get the docs and roll my sleeves up. Duncan -- _________________ Duncan Barclay | dmlb@dmlb.org | dmlb@freebsd.org| From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 01:29:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C91F37B401 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 01:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rtsserver2.aua.gr (rtsserver2.aua.gr [143.233.187.221]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F1A6543F75 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 01:29:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anonymous@rtsserver2.aua.gr) Received: (qmail 8945 invoked by uid 33); 9 May 2003 08:59:55 -0000 Date: 9 May 2003 08:59:55 -0000 From: Alej Lekatsas To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Trabakoulas v2.18 (Averof v2.4) Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: wi question X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 08:29:47 -0000 > Yes. However, it isn't in the tree because I don't want to enable > people's breaking the law. However, there's some power level code in > NetBSD (soon) that allows one to nail the power at a higher level > which can be useful w/o exceeding what the card is calibrated to. > > Warner > I would actually like to lower the output power in order to put a better directional antenna. If I put it now I would be breaking the law :) . I think that there are many who would like to lower output power. Thanks __________________________________________________________________ Message sent by Vorras Messaging Software - http://www.vorras.com/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 07:10:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF24237B401 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 07:10:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0ADF43FCB for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 07:10:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19E8Ym-0008CR-00 for ; Fri, 09 May 2003 16:09:16 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19E8Yl-0008CH-00 for ; Fri, 09 May 2003 16:09:15 +0200 From: "Jesse D. Guardiani" Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 10:10:44 -0400 Organization: WingNET Internet Services Lines: 15 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.1 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Working ACPI and Cardbus? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 14:10:49 -0000 Howdy. Does anyone know of a (preferably IBM) laptop or laptop series with good working ACPI and Cardbus? Ghetto would be fine. I don't need a whole lot of power for this application. Thanks. -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 07:21:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A830737B401 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 07:21:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrea.pop4.net (216-234-109-11.ded.det2.hexcom.net [216.234.109.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AC3F644013 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 07:21:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vev@michvhf.com) Received: (qmail 41862 invoked by uid 1008); 9 May 2003 14:21:07 -0000 Received: from vev@michvhf.com by www.pop4.net with qmail-scanner-0.96 (uvscan: v4.1.40/v4156. . Clean. Processed in 2.540263 secs); 09 May 2003 14:21:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO paprika.michvhf.com) (67.36.71.182) by 0 with SMTP; 9 May 2003 14:21:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 13981 invoked by uid 1001); 9 May 2003 14:21:01 -0000 Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 10:21:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Vince Vielhaber To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <025401c31603$750e4bd0$a7ac77c1@DJK1Comp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Centrino X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 14:21:06 -0000 On Fri, 9 May 2003, Duncan Barclay wrote: > Just bought a Centrino based laptop. Has anyone had ay further luck with > them, someone in April claimed 4.8 would not boot on a Sony Z1MP. > > Also anyone working on a driver for the 802.11b included? If not I'll try > and get the docs and roll my sleeves up. I've seen quite a few people mention that the 802.11b card inside their laptop isn't supported. Usually those things are just mini-pci cards. Has anyone given any thought (or tried) to putting in an orinoco or prism based mini-pci card in it's place? Vince. -- Fast, inexpensive internet service 56k and beyond! http://www.pop4.net/ http://www.meanstreamradio.com http://www.unknown-artists.com Internet radio: It's not file sharing, it's just radio. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 07:25:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9746837B404 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 07:25:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrea.pop4.net (216-234-109-11.ded.det2.hexcom.net [216.234.109.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D7EC843F85 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 07:25:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vev@michvhf.com) Received: (qmail 42547 invoked by uid 1008); 9 May 2003 14:25:26 -0000 Received: from vev@michvhf.com by www.pop4.net with qmail-scanner-0.96 (uvscan: v4.1.40/v4156. . Clean. Processed in 3.587329 secs); 09 May 2003 14:25:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO paprika.michvhf.com) (67.36.71.182) by 0 with SMTP; 9 May 2003 14:25:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 14110 invoked by uid 1001); 9 May 2003 14:25:19 -0000 Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 10:25:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Vince Vielhaber To: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: WDS (wireless distribution) revisited X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 14:25:22 -0000 Have there been any further thoughts to adding WDS to the wi driver? Vince. -- Fast, inexpensive internet service 56k and beyond! http://www.pop4.net/ http://www.meanstreamradio.com http://www.unknown-artists.com Internet radio: It's not file sharing, it's just radio. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 07:32:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC5D37B401 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 07:32:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p3.saignon.net (66-146-166-52.skyriver.net [66.146.166.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F2AF43F75 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 07:32:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tony@saign.com) Received: (qmail 38994 invoked by uid 89); 9 May 2003 14:24:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO burned) (tony@saign.com@66.146.166.50) by 66-146-166-52.skyriver.net with SMTP; 9 May 2003 14:24:38 -0000 From: "Tony Saign" To: "'Vince Vielhaber'" , Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 07:32:48 -0700 Message-ID: <000001c31637$e01809f0$1e01a8c0@burned> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Subject: RE: FreeBSD and Centrino X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 14:32:58 -0000 The Intel 2100 miniPCI card is a symbol based chipset. Swapping miniPCI cards would be the cheapest quickest resolution. Intel has no plans to offer a driver for these currently. -Tony -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Vince Vielhaber Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 7:21 AM To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Centrino On Fri, 9 May 2003, Duncan Barclay wrote: > Just bought a Centrino based laptop. Has anyone had ay further luck > with them, someone in April claimed 4.8 would not boot on a Sony Z1MP. > > Also anyone working on a driver for the 802.11b included? If not I'll > try and get the docs and roll my sleeves up. I've seen quite a few people mention that the 802.11b card inside their laptop isn't supported. Usually those things are just mini-pci cards. Has anyone given any thought (or tried) to putting in an orinoco or prism based mini-pci card in it's place? Vince. -- Fast, inexpensive internet service 56k and beyond! http://www.pop4.net/ http://www.meanstreamradio.com http://www.unknown-artists.com Internet radio: It's not file sharing, it's just radio. _______________________________________________ freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 07:33:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF6E37B408 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 07:33:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [130.64.1.215]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0144643F3F for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 07:33:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 19E8vl-0000rI-00 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Fri, 09 May 2003 10:33:01 -0400 Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 10:33:01 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030509143301.GA2198@pir.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Subject: MPI350 problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 14:33:03 -0000 I've been using my Cisco MPI350 wireless mini pci card in my IBM X30 since Doug A. committed fixes for it working through suspend/resume quite happily ... until yesterday. I tried to switch from wired to wireless and the machine hung. This had happened once before when I returned from work and had forgotten to remove the work wireless configuration before suspending, but this time I'd done nothing odd. I havn't used the wireless card too much recently since the machine has sat in it's docking station at home a lot of the time. Changes I've made recently have been under XP (upgrading the cisco card driver and firmware - but it failed before the firmware update) the BIOS for the machine (but backing out the BIOS update hasn't improved matters) and updating to today's -STABLE. If I try and use (send packets over it, or even ifconfig -a once the interface is up and configures) the MPI350 card now I get RID read/write failures (after a long pause of the machine being completely unresponsive). It works long enough to get an IP address via DHCP most of the time, then hangs for a long time, gives RID errors and then comes back to life until the next time I try to access the interface. I've tried backing out as many changes as I can find, including going back to a -STABLE kernel as of over a month ago with no change. The errors I've seen are; an0: port 0x6000-0x60ff mem 0xd0400000-0xd07fffff,0xd0200000-0xd0203fff irq 5 at device 2.0 on pci1 an0: got RSSI <-> dBM map an0: Ethernet address: 00:02:8a:29:7b:45 [..] an0: failed to write RID 1 ff11 ff11 68 1000 2, 60 an0: failed to set ssid list an0: failed to read RID ff50 0 8800 1000 2, 3 an0: failed to read RID ff50 0 8800 1000 2, 3 an0: failed to read RID ff50 0 8800 1000 2, 3 an0: failed to read RID ff11 0 8800 1000 2, 3 The 350 pcmcia card I have works just fine. The MPI350 works just fine under XP. The other mini pci card I have works on in the slot under BSD. This smells like an irq/memory conflict to me, but I've moved the irq config as much as I can (so it shares an irq with as little as it can) and moved other things around to no benefit whatsoever and 'vmstat -i' doesn't show an irq storm. Any clues ? P. -- pir pir-sig@pir.net pir-sig@net.tufts.edu From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 11:24:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B10B37B401 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 11:24:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns3.safety.net (ns3.safety.net [216.40.201.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B40DD43F75 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 11:24:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cbiffle@safety.net) Received: from localhost (rs.rackshack.net.safety.net [216.40.201.32]) by ns3.safety.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h49IOUA08421; Fri, 9 May 2003 11:24:30 -0700 From: "Cliff L. Biffle" To: Vince Vielhaber , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 11:24:44 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305091124.44740.cbiffle@safety.net> Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Centrino X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 18:24:34 -0000 On Friday 09 May 2003 07:21 am, Vince Vielhaber wrote: > On Fri, 9 May 2003, Duncan Barclay wrote: > > Just bought a Centrino based laptop. Has anyone had ay further luck with > > them, someone in April claimed 4.8 would not boot on a Sony Z1MP. > > > > Also anyone working on a driver for the 802.11b included? If not I'll try > > and get the docs and roll my sleeves up. > > I've seen quite a few people mention that the 802.11b card inside their > laptop isn't supported. Usually those things are just mini-pci cards. > Has anyone given any thought (or tried) to putting in an orinoco or prism > based mini-pci card in it's place? 'Course, this wouldn't work for the Centrino, which uses its own, integrated wlan chip. -Cliff L. Biffle From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 12:16:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C17E37B40E for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 12:16:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postal3.es.net (postal3.es.net [198.128.3.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78CF143F93 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 12:16:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal3.es.net (Postal Node 3) with ESMTP id MUA74016; Fri, 09 May 2003 12:16:18 -0700 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id ECC4E5D04; Fri, 9 May 2003 12:16:17 -0700 (PDT) To: "Cliff L. Biffle" In-Reply-To: Message from "Cliff L. Biffle" <200305091124.44740.cbiffle@safety.net> Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 12:16:17 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20030509191617.ECC4E5D04@ptavv.es.net> cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Centrino X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 19:16:21 -0000 > From: "Cliff L. Biffle" > Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 11:24:44 -0700 > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > On Friday 09 May 2003 07:21 am, Vince Vielhaber wrote: > > On Fri, 9 May 2003, Duncan Barclay wrote: > > > Just bought a Centrino based laptop. Has anyone had ay further luck with > > > them, someone in April claimed 4.8 would not boot on a Sony Z1MP. > > > > > > Also anyone working on a driver for the 802.11b included? If not I'll try > > > and get the docs and roll my sleeves up. > > > > I've seen quite a few people mention that the 802.11b card inside their > > laptop isn't supported. Usually those things are just mini-pci cards. > > Has anyone given any thought (or tried) to putting in an orinoco or prism > > based mini-pci card in it's place? > > 'Course, this wouldn't work for the Centrino, which uses its own, integrated > wlan chip. ??? The only two Centrinos I've looked at use a mini-PCI Intel/PRO wireless card. At least one vendor offers a Cisco card as an alternative (which makes it non-Centrino.) R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 12:56:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D14437B401 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 12:56:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p3.saignon.net (66-146-166-52.skyriver.net [66.146.166.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF6A943F93 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 12:56:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tony@saign.com) Received: (qmail 39790 invoked by uid 89); 9 May 2003 19:48:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO frankenmobl) (tony@saign.com@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 May 2003 19:48:25 -0000 From: "Tony Saign" To: "'Kevin Oberman'" , "'Cliff L. Biffle'" Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 12:56:29 -0700 Message-ID: <000501c31665$188f0540$71d2f10a@frankenmobl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <20030509191617.ECC4E5D04@ptavv.es.net> Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD and Centrino X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 19:56:45 -0000 All the Centrino systems I've seen use a miniPCI card. Pretty good marketing on Intel's part, since everyone is under the impression it's built into the system board! -Tony -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Oberman Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 12:16 PM To: Cliff L. Biffle Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Centrino > From: "Cliff L. Biffle" > Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 11:24:44 -0700 > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > On Friday 09 May 2003 07:21 am, Vince Vielhaber wrote: > > On Fri, 9 May 2003, Duncan Barclay wrote: > > > Just bought a Centrino based laptop. Has anyone had ay further > > > luck with them, someone in April claimed 4.8 would not boot on a > > > Sony Z1MP. > > > > > > Also anyone working on a driver for the 802.11b included? If not > > > I'll try and get the docs and roll my sleeves up. > > > > I've seen quite a few people mention that the 802.11b card inside > > their laptop isn't supported. Usually those things are just > > mini-pci cards. Has anyone given any thought (or tried) to putting > > in an orinoco or prism based mini-pci card in it's place? > > 'Course, this wouldn't work for the Centrino, which uses its own, > integrated > wlan chip. ??? The only two Centrinos I've looked at use a mini-PCI Intel/PRO wireless card. At least one vendor offers a Cisco card as an alternative (which makes it non-Centrino.) R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 _______________________________________________ freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 13:18:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 172CC37B401 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 13:18:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mf2.bredband.net (mf2.bredband.net [195.54.106.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F22B43F3F for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 13:18:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from webmaster@maximillian.nu) Received: from maximillian ([213.113.162.28]) by mf2.bredband.net with ESMTP id <20030509201838.OMKA273.mf2@maximillian> for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 22:18:38 +0200 From: "Markku Kokko" To: Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 22:18:46 +0200 Message-ID: <015601c31668$32433120$0400a8c0@maximillian> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Subject: Lucent IEEE 802.11b - busy bit won't clear X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 20:18:41 -0000 Hi everyone I have this Wave LAN card: May 7 19:38:36 hostname /kernel: pccard: card inserted, slot 0 May 7 19:38:42 hostname pccardd[46]: Card "Lucent Technologies"("WaveLAN/IEEE") [Version 01.01] [] matched "Lucent Technologies" ("WaveLAN/IEEE") [(null)] [(null)] May 7 19:38:47 hostname /kernel: wi0 at port 0x240-0x27f irq 3 slot 0 on pccard0 May 7 19:38:47 hostname /kernel: wi0: 802.11 address: 00:60:1d:03:25:6f May 7 19:38:47 hostname /kernel: wi0: using Lucent Technologies, WaveLAN/IEEE May 7 19:38:47 hostname /kernel: wi0: Lucent Firmware: Station 8.10.01 May 7 19:38:47 hostname pccardd[46]: wi0: Lucent Technologies (WaveLAN/IEEE) inserted. This is running in my FreeBSD box as an AP. Every now and then the card goes wild and throws errors at me. It also hangs the whole computer for a while, goes very laggy. The errors I get are, and a lot of those: wi0: watchdog timeout wi0: wi_cmd: busy bit won't clear. wi0: wi_cmd: busy bit won't clear. wi0: wi_cmd: busy bit won't clear. wi0: wi_cmd: busy bit won't clear. wi0: init failed and so on.. I've seen some talk about a patch long time ago that should fix this problem, but I can't seem to find that patch anywhere. Is there a patch and anyone that might know where to find it, how to apply it? Any other suggestions are very welcome. If you need more info, I'll send it to you. Please reply to me too, as I am not a member of this mailing list. Here is: uname -a FreeBSD hostname.com 4.8-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE #0: Tue Apr 29 18:45:38 CEST 2003 user@hostname.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/Insomnia i386 Here is my dmesg.boot > cat /var/run/dmesg.boot Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE #0: Tue Apr 29 18:45:38 CEST 2003 user@hostname.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/Insomnia Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (451.03-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x652 Stepping = 2 Features=0x183f9ff real memory = 335478784 (327616K bytes) config> di sio1 config> di sio0 config> di ppc0 config> di bt0 config> di aic0 config> di aha0 config> di adv0 config> q avail memory = 320794624 (313276K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0520000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc052009c. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk Using $PIR table, 8 entries at 0xc00fde50 npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0xe0000000-0xe3ffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at 0.0 irq 11 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xd000-0xd01f at device 7.2 on pci0 pci_cfgintr_virgin: using routable PCI-only interrupt 5 pci_cfgintr: ROUTE_INTERRUPT failed. uhci0: Could not allocate irq device_probe_and_attach: uhci0 attach returned 6 chip0: port 0x5000-0x500f at device 7.3 on pci0 rl0: port 0xd400-0xd4ff mem 0xea000000-0xea0000ff irq 10 at device 9.0 on pci0 rl0: Ethernet address: 00:50:22:80:a0:42 miibus0: on rl0 rlphy0: on miibus0 rlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto dc0: port 0xd800-0xd8ff mem 0xea001000-0xea0010ff irq 5 at device 10.0 on pci0 dc0: Ethernet address: 00:80:ad:71:78:e6 miibus1: on dc0 dcphy0: on miibus1 dcphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto atapci1: port 0xec00-0xecff,0xe800-0xe803,0xe400-0xe407,0xe000-0xe003,0xdc00-0xdc07 irq 7 at device 11.0 on pci0 ata2: at 0xdc00 on atapci1 ata3: at 0xe400 on atapci1 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> pcic0: at port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 on isa0 pcic0: Polling mode pccard0: on pcic0 pccard1: on pcic0 IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding enabled, default to deny, unlimited logging ad0: 6150MB [13330/15/63] at ata0-master UDMA33 ad4: 78533MB [159560/16/63] at ata2-master UDMA100 ad5: 43979MB [89355/16/63] at ata2-slave UDMA33 acd0: CDROM at ata1-master PIO4 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a pccard: card inserted, slot 0 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 14:24:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A96C237B401 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 14:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.65.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 46A0543F93 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 14:24:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 28530 invoked by uid 65534); 9 May 2003 21:24:00 -0000 Received: from p508BE661.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO oak.pohoyda.family) (80.139.230.97) by mail.gmx.net (mp007-rz3) with SMTP; 09 May 2003 23:24:00 +0200 Received: from oak.pohoyda.family (oak.pohoyda.family [127.0.0.1]) by oak.pohoyda.family (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h49LNwkD003568; Fri, 9 May 2003 23:23:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net) Received: (from apog@localhost) by oak.pohoyda.family (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id h49LNqnH003562; Fri, 9 May 2003 23:23:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net) X-Authentication-Warning: oak.pohoyda.family: apog set sender to alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net using -f Sender: alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net To: jesse@wingnet.net References: <200305071538.IAA04908@mina.soco.agilent.com> From: Alexander Pohoyda Date: 09 May 2003 23:23:52 +0200 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87he8395lj.fsf@oak.pohoyda.family> Lines: 22 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 21:24:03 -0000 Hi Jesse, "Jesse D. Guardiani" writes: > How long have you had the Thinkpad? And do you know where I might purchase I'm using one of my ThinkPads for about two years now. It's ThinkPad 600. I have got it as a 3-years-old crap from a windows user. Maxed memory, bigger HDD, PCMCIA WiFi, and notebook is ready to read mail, news, to browse and telnet to more powerful machine at work. What I absolutely love about it is a Keyboard, and a high quality material of the body (had problem with paint on the front panel, however.) FreeBSD friendly, got to run all devices and buses (not out-of-the-box, though.) I have bought another used ThinkPad (600E) some time ago. :-) I just like it. -- Alexander Pohoyda From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 16:17:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A918737B401 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 16:17:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [130.64.1.215]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E1043FA3 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 16:17:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 19EH7g-0004cP-00 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Fri, 09 May 2003 19:17:52 -0400 Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 19:17:52 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030509231752.GB17714@pir.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <20030509143301.GA2198@pir.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030509143301.GA2198@pir.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Subject: Re: MPI350 problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 23:17:53 -0000 Peter Radcliffe probably said: > I've tried backing out as many changes as I can find, including going > back to a -STABLE kernel as of over a month ago with no change. > > The errors I've seen are; > > an0: port 0x6000-0x60ff mem > 0xd0400000-0xd07fffff,0xd0200000-0xd0203fff irq 5 at device 2.0 on pci1 > an0: got RSSI <-> dBM map > an0: Ethernet address: 00:02:8a:29:7b:45 > [..] > an0: failed to write RID 1 ff11 ff11 68 1000 2, 60 > an0: failed to set ssid list > an0: failed to read RID ff50 0 8800 1000 2, 3 > an0: failed to read RID ff50 0 8800 1000 2, 3 > an0: failed to read RID ff50 0 8800 1000 2, 3 > an0: failed to read RID ff11 0 8800 1000 2, 3 > > The 350 pcmcia card I have works just fine. The MPI350 works just fine > under XP. The other mini pci card I have works on in the slot under > BSD. and the answer is that the new firmware rev for the card doesn't work with the FreeBSD driver. It seems that IBM's driver update for XP installs new firmware which broke things. After a pointer From Doug A. I've downgraded the firmware and it works again. P. -- pir pir-sig@pir.net pir-sig@net.tufts.edu From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 16:48:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19C2F37B401; Fri, 9 May 2003 16:48:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow034o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21D8D43F93; Fri, 9 May 2003 16:48:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from arno@heho.snv.jussieu.fr) Received: from mail pickup service by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 9 May 2003 12:31:23 +0100 Received: from mx2.freebsd.org ([216.136.204.119]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Thu, 8 May 2003 22:17:38 +0100 Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E8556EB8; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:16:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F72A37B401; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:16:57 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B294737B4C4; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:16:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F29543F85; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:16:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from arno@heho.snv.jussieu.fr) Received: from heho.snv.jussieu.fr (heho.snv.jussieu.fr [134.157.184.22]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.12.9/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id h48LGdru046088 ; Thu, 8 May 2003 23:16:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from heho.snv.jussieu.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h48LGdqx005709 ; Thu, 8 May 2003 23:16:39 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from arno@localhost) by heho.snv.jussieu.fr (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h48LGdkq005706; Thu, 8 May 2003 23:16:39 +0200 (MEST) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: From: arno@heho.snv.jussieu.fr Date: 08 May 2003 23:16:39 +0200 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lines: 7 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Antivirus: scanned by sophie at shiva.jussieu.fr X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mmake / maake (Toshiba Satelite 6000 X11 keyboard weirdness) X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 23:48:48 -0000 Follow-up to myself : - I did a portupgrade -fR XFree86-Server after the last world - keyboard works OK when booting Windows 2000 Arno _______________________________________________ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 18:01:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE81E37B401 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 18:01:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web40609.mail.yahoo.com (web40609.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.78.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 12C8F43F3F for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 18:01:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from foxmoy@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030510010127.91633.qmail@web40609.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [32.100.236.23] by web40609.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 09 May 2003 18:01:27 PDT Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 18:01:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Bernie Doehner To: jch@xmission.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: doconnor@gsoft.com.au cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: toshiba tecra 8000 and lucent modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 01:01:28 -0000 Hi Daniel, Scott, Jason, I have a Tecra 8100 (which I understand is quite similar to the 8000), that I have been fighting with to get the internal modem working. Running 4.6.2-RELEASE. First I tried version 1.4_3 of the ltmdm port and nothing happened when I ran the installed /usr/local/etc/ltmdm.sh start script. I then updated to 1.4_5, from the ports collection that comes with 4.8-RELEASE, but haven't upgraded the OS on the laptop yet, and still NOTHING. I found the BIOS setup on this laptop rather confusing and lacking in detail. Any recommendations on settings for "Configure Devices by OS" vs. Configure All Devices"? Settings for COM1, settings for internal modem (what's the secondary IRQ used for????), such as to improve the chances of ltmdm working? What is the version of the port that should work with 4.6.2-RELEASE and 4.8-RELEASE? Thanks in advance, Bernie __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 19:40:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 341E437B401 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 19:40:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from office.hotel-accommodation.net (pool-wnet-30-38.pacific.net.th [203.152.30.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 25ED043FD7 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 19:40:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cws@miraclenet.co.th) Received: (qmail 69198 invoked from network); 10 May 2003 02:40:47 -0000 Received: from localhost.intranet1 (HELO 10.0.0.77) (127.0.0.1) by 0 with SMTP; 10 May 2003 02:40:47 -0000 Received: from 10.0.0.31 (SquirrelMail authenticated user cws) by miranda.net0.intranet with HTTP; Sat, 10 May 2003 09:40:47 +0700 (ICT) Message-ID: <1139.10.0.0.31.1052534447.squirrel@miranda.net0.intranet> Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 09:40:47 +0700 (ICT) From: "Chatchawan Wongsiriprasert" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: Re: mmake / maake (Toshiba Satelite 6000 X11 keyboard weirdness) X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 02:40:50 -0000 The problem may come from XFree86. I got the solution from Samuel Tardieu web page at http://www.rfc1149.net/freebsd-portege-4010.html.en ------------------------- However, XFree86 4.2.0 is not usable as is: it sets the keyboard in raw mode but is unable to interpret multiple key release events. It results into multiple key presses, such as in thisss exaamplllle. The right fix would be to patch XFree86 so that it handles those events correctly (as does the console FreeBSD driver, as well as the Linux one). However, in the meantime, you should install the x11/accessx port and use the following command in your ~/.xinitrc: ax +bouncekeys bouncedelay 20 -timeout -------------------------- His solution work fine for me on my Satellite Pro 6100, see it at http://freebie.miraclenet.co.th/notebook/satellitepro-6100/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 22:44:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A709437B401 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 22:44:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from windmill-en0.garlic.com (windmill-en0.garlic.com [208.195.160.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3393E43FCB for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 22:44:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from madriax@garlic.com) Received: from someone (189.sm7.dialup.garlic.net [216.139.3.189]) by windmill-en0.garlic.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id h4A5iqi56838 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 22:44:53 -0700 Message-Id: <200305100544.h4A5iqi56838@windmill-en0.garlic.com> From: "Remington L." To: Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 22:44:41 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 11.0.4920 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Thread-Index: AcMWtyDu8olzXByGR8qFbvkBpblkcgAABU6g Subject: Im reading... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 05:44:54 -0000 Im reading a lot on this list about people looking for laptops with great FreeBSD support. Does such a list exist? I am thinking of creating one assuming there isn't one already. Any comments? Suggestions? From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 10 00:07:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 965CC37B401 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 00:07:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1444F43F3F for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 00:07:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h4A775IW034729; Sat, 10 May 2003 16:37:08 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Bernie Doehner , jch@xmission.com Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 09:04:16 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <20030510010127.91633.qmail@web40609.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20030510010127.91633.qmail@web40609.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305100904.17350.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -1.5 () CARRIAGE_RETURNS,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.16 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: toshiba tecra 8000 and lucent modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 07:07:22 -0000 On Sat, 10 May 2003 03:01, Bernie Doehner wrote: > I have a Tecra 8100 (which I understand is quite similar to the 8000), that > I have been fighting with to get the internal modem working. > > Running 4.6.2-RELEASE. First I tried version 1.4_3 of the ltmdm port and > nothing happened when I ran the installed /usr/local/etc/ltmdm.sh start > script. > > I then updated to 1.4_5, from the ports collection that comes with > 4.8-RELEASE, but haven't upgraded the OS on the laptop yet, and still > NOTHING. > > I found the BIOS setup on this laptop rather confusing and lacking in > detail. Any recommendations on settings for "Configure Devices by OS" vs. > Configure All Devices"? Settings for COM1, settings for internal modem > (what's the secondary IRQ used for????), such as to improve the chances of > ltmdm working? > > What is the version of the port that should work with 4.6.2-RELEASE and > 4.8-RELEASE? I should work with both versions. Are you sure you have a Lucent Winmodem in that laptop? If you run the script and no kernel messages appear it's because the device driver couldn't find a suitable card to attach to. pciconf -v -l would be useful to see. -- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 9A8C 569F 685A D928 5140 AE4B 319B 41F4 5D17 FDD5 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 10 01:01:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3928037B401 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 01:01:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AB3B43FDF for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 01:01:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from timothy@voidnet.com) Received: from repose (12-210-146-224.client.attbi.com[12.210.146.224]) by attbi.com (sccrmhc03) with SMTP id <20030510080151003000le0be>; Sat, 10 May 2003 08:01:51 +0000 From: Eric Timme To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 03:06:44 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <200305100544.h4A5iqi56838@windmill-en0.garlic.com> In-Reply-To: <200305100544.h4A5iqi56838@windmill-en0.garlic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305100306.44759.timothy@voidnet.com> Subject: Re: Im reading... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 08:01:57 -0000 There are two lists that talk about experiences with laptops and FreeBSD, although neither seem to have a list of the best working ones, just a big list of all of them..seems frustrating keeping up with such a list, since new models come out every few months, and the vendor stops selling the older one =0 http://www.cse.ucsc.edu/~dkulp/fbsd/laptop.html [old one - no longer updated?] http://www.zapatec.com/freebsd/laptop/ [newer one] On Saturday 10 May 2003 12:44 am, Remington L. wrote: > Im reading a lot on this list about people looking for laptops with great > FreeBSD support. Does such a list exist? I am thinking of creating one > assuming there isn't one already. Any comments? Suggestions? > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 10 02:45:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B2537B401; Sat, 10 May 2003 02:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow034o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C13343FD7; Sat, 10 May 2003 02:45:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from arno@heho.snv.jussieu.fr) Received: from mail pickup service by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 9 May 2003 14:34:25 +0100 Received: from mx2.freebsd.org ([216.136.204.119]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Thu, 8 May 2003 22:53:19 +0100 Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9225657859; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:53:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F4337B405; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:53:06 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B45C937B401; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:52:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9267A43F93; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:52:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from arno@heho.snv.jussieu.fr) Received: from heho.snv.jussieu.fr (heho.snv.jussieu.fr [134.157.184.22]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.12.9/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id h48Lqnru066974 ; Thu, 8 May 2003 23:52:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from heho.snv.jussieu.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h48Lqnqx005914 ; Thu, 8 May 2003 23:52:49 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from arno@localhost) by heho.snv.jussieu.fr (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h48LqnOf005911; Thu, 8 May 2003 23:52:49 +0200 (MEST) To: Peter Gade Jensen References: <20030508213911.GA8706@horse09.daimi.au.dk> From: arno@heho.snv.jussieu.fr Date: 08 May 2003 23:52:49 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20030508213911.GA8706@horse09.daimi.au.dk> Message-ID: Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Antivirus: scanned by sophie at shiva.jussieu.fr X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mmake / maake (Toshiba Satelite 6000 X11 keyboard weirdness) X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 09:45:24 -0000 Peter, > On Thu, May 08, 2003 at 11:02:33PM +0200, arno@heho.snv.jussieu.fr wrote: > > I rrun -curreent on a Toshiba sattellite Pro 6000 for over > > a month with no particular problem, other than a very > > irrittating "keyboard echo" when in X11 mode. > > The ever so irritating toshiba-keyboard-fuckup. > Put the following in a file, chmod +x it and load it from ~/.xinitrc > when you start X. You need to install xkbset though. > > if [ -x /usr/X11R6/bin/xkbset ]; then > xkbset m > xkbset exp =m > xkbset sl 5 > xkbset exp =sl > xkbset -f slowaccept > xkbset exp =f =slowaccept > fi yes! Thanx a lot (I should have asked much earlier ^_^) Arno _______________________________________________ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 10 05:45:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA7A37B401 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 05:45:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (imap.gmx.net [213.165.65.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C93043FAF for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 05:45:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 17669 invoked by uid 65534); 10 May 2003 12:45:36 -0000 Received: from p508BD50E.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO oak.pohoyda.family) (80.139.213.14) by mail.gmx.net (mp005-rz3) with SMTP; 10 May 2003 14:45:36 +0200 Received: from oak.pohoyda.family (oak.pohoyda.family [127.0.0.1]) by oak.pohoyda.family (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h4ACjYkN002572; Sat, 10 May 2003 14:45:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net) Received: (from apog@localhost) by oak.pohoyda.family (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id h4ACjVYI002569; Sat, 10 May 2003 14:45:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net) X-Authentication-Warning: oak.pohoyda.family: apog set sender to alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net using -f Sender: alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net To: "Remington L." References: <200305100544.h4A5iqi56838@windmill-en0.garlic.com> From: Alexander Pohoyda Date: 10 May 2003 14:45:30 +0200 In-Reply-To: <200305100544.h4A5iqi56838@windmill-en0.garlic.com> Message-ID: <87y91fj7h1.fsf@oak.pohoyda.family> Lines: 12 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Im reading... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 12:45:40 -0000 "Remington L." writes: > Im reading a lot on this list about people looking for laptops with great > FreeBSD support. Does such a list exist? Yes, there is one and active. http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/ -- Alexander Pohoyda From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 10 07:09:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A248037B404; Sat, 10 May 2003 07:09:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow034o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 463CA43F75; Sat, 10 May 2003 07:09:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhazn@daimi.au.dk) Received: from mail pickup service by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 9 May 2003 14:36:32 +0100 Received: from mx2.freebsd.org ([216.136.204.119]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Thu, 8 May 2003 22:40:34 +0100 Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77BAD5768F; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:39:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BEFC37B401; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:39:28 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5663237B401; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:39:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from horse09.daimi.au.dk (horse09.daimi.au.dk [130.225.18.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B75BF43F93; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:39:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhazn@daimi.au.dk) Received: (from rhazn@localhost) by horse09.daimi.au.dk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h48LdBQ09000; Thu, 8 May 2003 23:39:11 +0200 Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 23:39:11 +0200 From: Peter Gade Jensen To: arno@heho.snv.jussieu.fr Message-ID: <20030508213911.GA8706@horse09.daimi.au.dk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 33AF B563 58F1 04AB 417E AA69 06C6 32AC 5AD1 6815 X-GPG-URL: http://daimi.au.dk/~rhazn/gpgkey.asc X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mmake / maake (Toshiba Satelite 6000 X11 keyboard weirdness) X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 14:09:29 -0000 On Thu, May 08, 2003 at 11:02:33PM +0200, arno@heho.snv.jussieu.fr wrote: > I rrun -curreent on a Toshiba sattellite Pro 6000 for over > a month with no particular problem, other than a very > irrittating "keyboard echo" when in X11 mode. The ever so irritating toshiba-keyboard-fuckup. Put the following in a file, chmod +x it and load it from ~/.xinitrc when you start X. You need to install xkbset though. if [ -x /usr/X11R6/bin/xkbset ]; then xkbset m xkbset exp =m xkbset sl 5 xkbset exp =sl xkbset -f slowaccept xkbset exp =f =slowaccept fi /Peter -- If God had a beard, he'd be a UNIX programmer. _______________________________________________ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 10 07:21:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 003B337B41D for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 07:21:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [66.11.174.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BFEB43F3F for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 07:21:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.unixathome.org [192.168.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B02783D28; Sat, 10 May 2003 10:21:57 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Langille" To: Alexander Pohoyda Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 10:21:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <3EBCD2C5.32622.51F17304@localhost> Priority: normal References: <200305100544.h4A5iqi56838@windmill-en0.garlic.com> In-reply-to: <87y91fj7h1.fsf@oak.pohoyda.family> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Im reading... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 14:21:59 -0000 On 10 May 2003 at 14:45, Alexander Pohoyda wrote: > "Remington L." writes: > > > Im reading a lot on this list about people looking for laptops with great > > FreeBSD support. Does such a list exist? > > Yes, there is one and active. > http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/ Thank you. I've just added my laptop in there and the cards it uses. -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 10 08:43:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB58437B401 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 08:43:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [65.173.111.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF8843FD7 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 08:43:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4AFh7H3004888; Sat, 10 May 2003 09:43:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) with ESMTP id h4AFh4H3004885; Sat, 10 May 2003 09:43:07 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 09:43:04 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: "Daniel O'Connor" In-Reply-To: <200305100904.17350.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> Message-ID: <20030510092809.Y4642@wonkity.com> References: <20030510010127.91633.qmail@web40609.mail.yahoo.com> <200305100904.17350.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: jch@xmission.com cc: Bernie Doehner cc: WATANABE Kiyoshi cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: toshiba tecra 8000 and lucent modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 15:43:10 -0000 On Sat, 10 May 2003, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > On Sat, 10 May 2003 03:01, Bernie Doehner wrote: > > I have a Tecra 8100 (which I understand is quite similar to the 8000), > > that I have been fighting with to get the internal modem working. > > > > Running 4.6.2-RELEASE. First I tried version 1.4_3 of the ltmdm port and > > nothing happened when I ran the installed /usr/local/etc/ltmdm.sh start > > script. On the Tecra 8000, the built-in modem is apparently attached as an ISA device, and the ltmdm code in the port doesn't detect it. A few months back, WATANABE Kiyoshi and I corresponded about this, and he provided an alpha release of a new version that detected the modem and worked. That code may not have made its way into the port yet. (I've added his address to this message.) The modem in the 8100 may also be different from the 8000, at least in the connection details. Since it's not mine to release, I can't provide the patches. However, I can provide the configuration data that works with my Tecra 8000 modem: In /usr/local/etc/ltmdm/ltmdm.conf: hw.ltmdm.enable_isa_nonpnp=1 hw.ltmdm.irq=3 hw.ltmdm.com_addr=0x2f8 hw.ltmdm.base_addr=0x1c00 In the BIOS settings: Configuration: All Devices Built-in Modem = COM2(2F8H/IRQ3) -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 10 14:58:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 916E337B401 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 14:58:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3060243F75 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 14:58:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@freebsd.org) Received: from master.dougb.net (12-234-22-23.client.attbi.com[12.234.22.23]) by attbi.com (rwcrmhc52) with SMTP id <2003051021585005200a7bq5e>; Sat, 10 May 2003 21:58:50 +0000 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 14:58:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Barton To: Vince Vielhaber In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030510145821.M5056@znfgre.qbhto.arg> References: Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-message-flag: Outlook -- Not just for spreading viruses anymore! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WDS (wireless distribution) revisited X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 21:58:51 -0000 On Fri, 9 May 2003, Vince Vielhaber wrote: > > Have there been any further thoughts to adding WDS to the wi driver? I haven't seen any opposition to it, so as soon as you implement that, it will most likely get imported. Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 10 15:31:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C45D37B401 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 15:31:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrea.pop4.net (216-234-109-11.ded.det2.hexcom.net [216.234.109.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2052A43F3F for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 15:31:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vev@michvhf.com) Received: (qmail 43562 invoked by uid 1008); 10 May 2003 22:31:25 -0000 Received: from vev@michvhf.com by www.pop4.net with qmail-scanner-0.96 (uvscan: v4.1.40/v4156. . Clean. Processed in 2.072943 secs); 10 May 2003 22:31:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO paprika.michvhf.com) (67.36.71.182) by 0 with SMTP; 10 May 2003 22:31:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 49015 invoked by uid 1001); 10 May 2003 22:31:18 -0000 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 18:31:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Vince Vielhaber To: Doug Barton In-Reply-To: <20030510145821.M5056@znfgre.qbhto.arg> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WDS (wireless distribution) revisited X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 22:31:23 -0000 On Sat, 10 May 2003, Doug Barton wrote: > On Fri, 9 May 2003, Vince Vielhaber wrote: > > > > > Have there been any further thoughts to adding WDS to the wi driver? > > I haven't seen any opposition to it, so as soon as you implement that, it > will most likely get imported. Everybody loves a smartass. Got a clue where to find the info on it? I don't have any problem adding it. Vince. -- Fast, inexpensive internet service 56k and beyond! http://www.pop4.net/ http://www.meanstreamradio.com http://www.unknown-artists.com Internet radio: It's not file sharing, it's just radio. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 10 15:36:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B72C537B401 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 15:36:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2529743FBD for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 15:36:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@freebsd.org) Received: from master.dougb.net (12-234-22-23.client.attbi.com[12.234.22.23]) by attbi.com (sccrmhc01) with SMTP id <20030510223628001003d09ge>; Sat, 10 May 2003 22:36:28 +0000 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 15:36:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Barton To: Vince Vielhaber In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030510153548.A5056@znfgre.qbhto.arg> References: Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-message-flag: Outlook -- Not just for spreading viruses anymore! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WDS (wireless distribution) revisited X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 22:36:30 -0000 On Sat, 10 May 2003, Vince Vielhaber wrote: > Everybody loves a smartass. Got a clue where to find the info on it? It was recenly discussed on this list, so the archives would be a good place to start. > I don't have any problem adding it. Great news! -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 10 15:44:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDB137B401 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 15:44:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrea.pop4.net (216-234-109-11.ded.det2.hexcom.net [216.234.109.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9C21643FDF for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 15:44:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vev@michvhf.com) Received: (qmail 44361 invoked by uid 1008); 10 May 2003 22:45:00 -0000 Received: from vev@michvhf.com by www.pop4.net with qmail-scanner-0.96 (uvscan: v4.1.40/v4156. . Clean. Processed in 3.81308 secs); 10 May 2003 22:45:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO paprika.michvhf.com) (67.36.71.182) by 0 with SMTP; 10 May 2003 22:44:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 49103 invoked by uid 1001); 10 May 2003 22:44:51 -0000 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 18:44:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Vince Vielhaber To: Doug Barton In-Reply-To: <20030510153548.A5056@znfgre.qbhto.arg> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WDS (wireless distribution) revisited X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 22:44:54 -0000 On Sat, 10 May 2003, Doug Barton wrote: > On Sat, 10 May 2003, Vince Vielhaber wrote: > > > Everybody loves a smartass. Got a clue where to find the info on it? > > It was recenly discussed on this list, so the archives would be a good > place to start. I'm aware of the discussion. It was fairly content free beyond where to find firmware for prism based cards and Warner saying that he wasn't doing anything with it. You might want to check those archives yourself, I make it a point to before I post here. There's alot of useful info there, unfortunately nothing useful about wds. > > I don't have any problem adding it. > > Great news! I thought so too! Vince. -- Fast, inexpensive internet service 56k and beyond! http://www.pop4.net/ http://www.meanstreamradio.com http://www.unknown-artists.com Internet radio: It's not file sharing, it's just radio. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 10 22:13:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D29937B401 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 22:13:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D91E43FBD for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 22:13:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.8/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h4B5DFkA004565; Sat, 10 May 2003 23:13:21 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 23:12:59 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20030510.231259.78708366.imp@bsdimp.com> To: alej@agriroot.aua.gr From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wi question X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 05:13:42 -0000 In message: Alej Lekatsas writes: : I would actually like to lower the output power in order to put a : better directional antenna. If I put it now I would be breaking the : law :) . There's some good work in the pipe that will allow this, but I'm not sure when it will make it into the tree. Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 10 22:14:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 790F837B401 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 22:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B41E643FE3 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 22:14:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.8/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h4B5EJkA004573; Sat, 10 May 2003 23:14:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 23:14:02 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20030510.231402.51859634.imp@bsdimp.com> To: vev@michvhf.com From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: References: <025401c31603$750e4bd0$a7ac77c1@DJK1Comp> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Centrino X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 05:14:20 -0000 In message: Vince Vielhaber writes: : On Fri, 9 May 2003, Duncan Barclay wrote: : : > Just bought a Centrino based laptop. Has anyone had ay further luck with : > them, someone in April claimed 4.8 would not boot on a Sony Z1MP. : > : > Also anyone working on a driver for the 802.11b included? If not I'll try : > and get the docs and roll my sleeves up. : : I've seen quite a few people mention that the 802.11b card inside their : laptop isn't supported. I know that on the Toshiba laptops that I've worked on, the 802.11b internal card worked well. : Usually those things are just mini-pci cards. : Has anyone given any thought (or tried) to putting in an orinoco or prism : based mini-pci card in it's place? They work as far as I know. Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 10 22:15:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8905C37B401 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 22:15:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B84A443FB1 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 22:15:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.8/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h4B5F2kA004590; Sat, 10 May 2003 23:15:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 23:14:47 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20030510.231447.93209267.imp@bsdimp.com> To: vev@michvhf.com From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WDS (wireless distribution) revisited X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 05:15:04 -0000 In message: Vince Vielhaber writes: : Have there been any further thoughts to adding WDS to the wi driver? There are always thoughts. But there are also issues of time, code and documentation. Since I have none of those, they will remain thoughts. Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 10 22:19:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0CF237B401 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 22:19:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 973DD43FF7 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 22:19:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.8/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h4B5FtkA004601; Sat, 10 May 2003 23:19:04 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 23:15:40 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20030510.231540.48530531.imp@bsdimp.com> To: tony@saign.com From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <000001c31637$e01809f0$1e01a8c0@burned> References: <000001c31637$e01809f0$1e01a8c0@burned> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Centrino X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 05:19:06 -0000 In message: <000001c31637$e01809f0$1e01a8c0@burned> "Tony Saign" writes: : The Intel 2100 miniPCI card is a symbol based chipset. : Swapping miniPCI cards would be the cheapest quickest resolution. : Intel has no plans to offer a driver for these currently. The wi driver supports the symbol cards. I've had some good reports of wi working with Centrino. Is this in error? Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 10 22:19:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F0AC37B401; Sat, 10 May 2003 22:19:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B19243FF2; Sat, 10 May 2003 22:19:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.8/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h4B5JBkA004604; Sat, 10 May 2003 23:19:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 23:18:56 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20030510.231856.21931479.imp@bsdimp.com> To: vev@michvhf.com From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: References: <20030510145821.M5056@znfgre.qbhto.arg> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: DougB@freebsd.org cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WDS (wireless distribution) revisited X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 05:19:13 -0000 In message: Vince Vielhaber writes: : Everybody loves a smartass. Got a clue where to find the info on it? : I don't have any problem adding it. Last time I asked, there was an NDA involved that they weren't too keen on giving me. It was a 'bad' NDA in that I couldn't release the source code after, unlike the 'good' NDA that I signed to get the rest of the Prism 2/2.5/3 docs. Warner