From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 16 03:29:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EC3216A4CE; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 03:29:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.hccnet.nl (smtp.hccnet.nl [62.251.0.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC62B4400B; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 03:29:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from d.wylie@hccnet.nl) Received: from upsilon by smtp.hccnet.nl via fia142-13-100.dsl.hccnet.nl [80.100.13.142] with ESMTP id hAGBTNvW012775 (8.12.10/2.03); Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:29:23 +0100 (MET) From: "Dylan Wylie" To: current@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:27:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <3FB76D39.18418.1C9B4D@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20031115.173502.58477622.imp@bsdimp.com> References: <3FB6A344.14489.1B3A005@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.11) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Subject: Re: cardbus no longer working with -CURRENT and ACPI X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:29:26 -0000 On 15 Nov 2003 at 17:35, M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: <3FB6A344.14489.1B3A005@localhost> > "Dylan Wylie" writes: > : List, > : > : Running -CURRENT now gives the following problem on a Compaq Pressario 1600- > : XL144 laptop: > : > : [...] > : cbb0: at device 10.0 on pci0 > : cardbus0: on cbb0 > : pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 > : pcib0: _PRS resource entry has unsupported type 0 > : cbb: Unable to map IRQ... > : device_probe_and_attach: cbb0 attache returned 12 > : [...] > : > : Disabeling ACPI makes it work again. > : However, I'm then getting the 'watchdog time-out, reseting card' thing now, so no net for > : now. > : tried the hw.pci._allow_usupported_io_range="1" option, but doesn't help. > : > : Everything was fine before the 'update'. > : Can't go back to previous kernel due to the statfs structure changes. > > When was the previous kernel? > > Warner > Sorry, ofcourse; October 26 booting with the old kernel still allows some things te be done, such sysctl. The pccard is then also detected correctly (acpi enabled) but the system will drop into single user mode saying:".. /bin/sh on /etc/rc terminated abnormally, going to ingle user mode" The statfs thing I assume. Here's the messages concerning cbb with the kernel of nov 1: [...] cbb0: at device 10.0 on pci0 cbb0: PCI Memory allocated: 88000000 cardbus0: on cbb0 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 pcib0: possible interrupts: 9 pcib0: slot 10 INTA routed to irq 9 via \_SB_.PCI0.PIB_.LNKB cbb0: [MPSAFE] [...] Dylan From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 16 08:51:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5306E16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:51:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail3.panix.com (mail3.panix.com [166.84.1.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 192FA43FA3 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:51:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from panix.com (brillig.panix.com [166.84.1.76]) by mail3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 863A4981F6 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:51:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from teddy.fas.com (pcp01010374pcs.mplsnt01.sc.comcast.net [68.58.176.69]) by panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 678942AA48 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:51:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from stan by teddy.fas.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1ALQ7G-0007me-00 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:51:14 -0500 Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:51:14 -0500 From: stan To: FreeBSD Mobile List Message-ID: <20031116165114.GA29835@teddy.fas.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mobile List Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Editor: gVim X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Kernel-Version: 2.4.21 X-Uptime: 11:44:18 up 23 days, 1:16, 4 users, load average: 0.02, 0.13, 0.32 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Stan Brown Subject: Help getting Compaq Wireless LAN card working X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:51:17 -0000 I am trying to get my Compaq wireless LAN card for my N410C working. I've looked at: http://www.samag.com/documents/s=7121/sam0205a/sam0205a.htm Given that information, I've added the apropriate itmes to my kernle (It's a device awi Prisim chipset, right?). Now when I boot the machine I get the following in dmesg: ugen0: Compaq Computers Compaq WLAN MultiPort W200, rev 1.10/0.00, addr 2 and if config looks like this: fxp0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 205.159.77.8 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 205.159.77.255 ether 00:d0:59:c6:41:bf media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: active lp0: flags=8810 mtu 1500 faith0: flags=8003 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 ppp0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552 So it's the faith0 device, right? But when I run: brown2# wicontrol -f 7 wicontrol: SIOCSWAVELAN: Device not configured So, what steps have I left out? Or am I confused? -- "They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 16 09:22:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47AEB16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:22:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from famine.e-raist.com (69-30-69-105.dq1mn.easystreet.com [69.30.69.105]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EAE143FE0 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:22:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aburke@nullplusone.com) Received: from thebe ([199.26.172.103]) (authenticated bits=0) by famine.e-raist.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAGHLvfL069334; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:22:01 -0800 (PST) From: "Aaron Burke" To: "stan" , Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:21:10 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20031116165114.GA29835@teddy.fas.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: RE: Help getting Compaq Wireless LAN card working X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:22:04 -0000 > Subject: Help getting Compaq Wireless LAN card working > > > I am trying to get my Compaq wireless LAN card for my N410C working. > > I've looked at: > > http://www.samag.com/documents/s=7121/sam0205a/sam0205a.htm > > Given that information, I've added the apropriate itmes to my kernle (It's > a device awi Prisim chipset, right?). Did you rebuild your kernel with the correct driver installed. I have glanced over the site but didnt actually see a note about adding the wi driver (or any other driver), but I didnt look all that well. Is this a PCMCIA card? If so, what does "pccardc dumpcis" say? > Now when I boot the machine I get the following in dmesg: > > ugen0: Compaq Computers Compaq WLAN MultiPort W200, rev 1.10/0.00, addr 2 > and if config looks like this: > > fxp0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet 205.159.77.8 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 205.159.77.255 > ether 00:d0:59:c6:41:bf media: Ethernet autoselect > (10baseT/UTP) > status: active lp0: > flags=8810 > mtu 1500 > faith0: flags=8003 mtu 1500 > lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 ppp0: > flags=8010 > mtu 1500 > sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552 > > So it's the faith0 device, right? No, faith0 is an IPv6-to-IPv4 TCP relay capturing interface. It doesnt appear to be seeing your card. Normally you would have a device like wi0 listed as well. > But when I run: > > brown2# wicontrol -f 7 > wicontrol: SIOCSWAVELAN: Device not configured The machine is not seeing the wireless network card. I dont even have that ethernet card, and I get the exact same message. > > So, what steps have I left out? Or am I confused? Slightly confused. Make sure your kernel configuration has a driver for the wireless ethernet card. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 16 10:01:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C52F16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:01:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from postal2.es.net (proxy.es.net [198.128.3.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E2743FBD for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:01:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal2.es.net (Postal Node 2) with ESMTP (SSL) id MUA74016 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:01:31 -0800 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id E90C45D07 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:01:30 -0800 (PST) To: FreeBSD Mobile List In-Reply-To: Message from stan of "Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:51:14 EST." <20031116165114.GA29835@teddy.fas.com> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:01:30 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20031116180130.E90C45D07@ptavv.es.net> Subject: Re: Help getting Compaq Wireless LAN card working X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:01:34 -0000 > Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:51:14 -0500 > From: stan > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > I am trying to get my Compaq wireless LAN card for my N410C working. > > I've looked at: > > http://www.samag.com/documents/s=7121/sam0205a/sam0205a.htm > > Given that information, I've added the apropriate itmes to my kernle (It's > a device awi Prisim chipset, right?). I think you want the wi driver. You can load it with 'kldload if_wi'. awi is a special driver for the developers to use to try to resolve some issues with a specific chip-set and is only for use if the normal wi driver won't work. I don't think it support Prism chips. > Now when I boot the machine I get the following in dmesg: > > ugen0: Compaq Computers Compaq WLAN MultiPort W200, rev 1.10/0.00, addr 2 ugen is a generic USB device. Is this a USB connected wireless? > and if config looks like this: > > fxp0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet 205.159.77.8 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 205.159.77.255 > ether 00:d0:59:c6:41:bf media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) > status: active lp0: flags=8810 > mtu 1500 > faith0: flags=8003 mtu 1500 > lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 ppp0: flags=8010 > mtu 1500 > sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552 > > So it's the faith0 device, right? No. faith0 is the IPv4 to IPv6 pseudo device. You have no wireless device. It should configure as wi0 if it's a PCCard. I'm not too sure about what it will look like if it's USB. > But when I run: > > brown2# wicontrol -f 7 > wicontrol: SIOCSWAVELAN: Device not configured > > So, what steps have I left out? Or am I confused? Just a bit confused. If this does not fix things, please include a full dmesg output and full kernel config or pointer to where they can be found. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 16 14:22:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26CC16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:22:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail3.panix.com (mail3.panix.com [166.84.1.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC59743F85 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:22:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from panix.com (brillig.panix.com [166.84.1.76]) by mail3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 349BF98272 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:22:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from teddy.fas.com (pcp01010374pcs.mplsnt01.sc.comcast.net [68.58.176.69]) by panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 002922AA48 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:22:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from stan by teddy.fas.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1ALVHa-0001cr-00 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:22:14 -0500 Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:22:14 -0500 From: stan To: FreeBSD Mobile List Message-ID: <20031116222214.GA6153@teddy.fas.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mobile List References: <20031116165114.GA29835@teddy.fas.com> <20031116180130.E90C45D07@ptavv.es.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031116180130.E90C45D07@ptavv.es.net> X-Editor: gVim X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Kernel-Version: 2.4.21 X-Uptime: 17:15:21 up 23 days, 6:47, 1 user, load average: 0.09, 0.05, 0.01 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Stan Brown Subject: Re: Help getting Compaq Wireless LAN card working X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 22:22:17 -0000 On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 10:01:30AM -0800, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:51:14 -0500 > > From: stan > > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > > > I am trying to get my Compaq wireless LAN card for my N410C working. > > > > I've looked at: > > > > http://www.samag.com/documents/s=7121/sam0205a/sam0205a.htm > > > > Given that information, I've added the apropriate itmes to my kernle (It's > > a device awi Prisim chipset, right?). > > I think you want the wi driver. You can load it with 'kldload > if_wi'. awi is a special driver for the developers to use to try to > resolve some issues with a specific chip-set and is only for use if > the normal wi driver won't work. I don't think it support Prism chips. > > > Now when I boot the machine I get the following in dmesg: > > > > ugen0: Compaq Computers Compaq WLAN MultiPort W200, rev 1.10/0.00, addr 2 > > ugen is a generic USB device. Is this a USB connected wireless? > Looks like that is the problem. It appears the FreeBSD does not support wireless adapters on teh USB _ye_ (I hope?). Anyone know if anyone is working on this? -- "They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 16 15:52:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C02F16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:52:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from arginine.spc.org (arginine.spc.org [195.206.69.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5E1B43FDD for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:52:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bms@spc.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arginine.spc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 940B76542A for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:52:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from arginine.spc.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (arginine.spc.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26235-03 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:52:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from saboteur.dek.spc.org (unknown [82.147.19.91]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by arginine.spc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9CD96530D for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:52:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: by saboteur.dek.spc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 845741A; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:52:15 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:52:15 +0000 From: Bruce M Simpson To: FreeBSD Mobile List Message-ID: <20031116235215.GL80765@saboteur.dek.spc.org> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mobile List References: <20031116165114.GA29835@teddy.fas.com> <20031116180130.E90C45D07@ptavv.es.net> <20031116222214.GA6153@teddy.fas.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031116222214.GA6153@teddy.fas.com> Subject: Re: Help getting Compaq Wireless LAN card working X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:52:27 -0000 On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 05:22:14PM -0500, stan wrote: > Looks like that is the problem. It appears the FreeBSD does not support > wireless adapters on teh USB _ye_ (I hope?). > > Anyone know if anyone is working on this? Google for Stuart Walsh's atwi(4) driver. BMS From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 17 09:22:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB2A16A4CE for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 09:22:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.kukulies.org (www.kukulies.org [213.146.112.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F9443FE1 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 09:22:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kuku@www.kukulies.org) Received: from www.kukulies.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.kukulies.org (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAHHLwoR078509 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:21:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from kuku@www.kukulies.org) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by www.kukulies.org (8.12.10/8.12.6/Submit) id hAHHLvWP078508 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:21:57 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:21:57 +0100 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20031117172157.GA78470@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: help - hosed my system -need -current kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:22:03 -0000 I did a build world (make world) on a today's -current cvsup - maybe I should have done buildworld or something that works smoother. Anyway I was nearly through wothout a kernel been built yet and the binaries were already installed. You know what happens then. invalid system call and core dumps on nearly every /bin/binary. I had planned in case of failure to counter this by booting a live CD, mount the source tree and get through building a new kernel from a mounted src environment. But the 5.0 system I had on CD had problems recognizing my second FreeBSD partition on the bay drive of my Dell Inspiron 8000. I could mount /dev/ad2s1 (ad2s2 is a NTFS) and it did not see /dev/ad2s3 (Under 5.1 and 5.1-current I was able to mount /dev/ad2s3) Anyway, what I urgently need is a -current kernel with a /boot or any other advice to pull myself by my own hairs out of this soup? Can anybody help me? -- Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku_at_physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 17 10:27:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1A1A16A4CE for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:27:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (sea2-f22.sea2.hotmail.com [207.68.165.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03D5943F75 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:27:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lee_ver_mx@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:27:20 -0800 Received: from 200.52.181.188 by sea2fd.sea2.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:27:19 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.52.181.188] X-Originating-Email: [lee_ver_mx@hotmail.com] From: "Lee Mx" To: kuku@kukulies.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:27:19 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Nov 2003 18:27:20.0741 (UTC) FILETIME=[701FC550:01C3AD38] Subject: Re: help - hosed my system -need -current kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:27:23 -0000 >From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" >To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org >Subject: help - hosed my system -need -current kernel >Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:21:57 +0100 > >I did a build world (make world) on a today's -current cvsup - maybe I >should have done buildworld or something that works smoother. cvsup make buildworld make buildkernel make installkernel reboot make installworld mergemaster Is the way to go, I think. I had a very similar problem to yours on one machine but I had another that I did as above so I just copied the new kernel form the machine that was update correctly to the one I had screwed up. It then ran fine but since I hadn't finished an installworld I still seemed to have binaries that gave me a signal 11 so I couldn't do an installworld. I just used scp -rp and copied /bin /sbin /usr/bin /usr/sbin /lib /usr/lib from the good machine and everything worked perfectly. I was then able to do a new cvsup - make world and kernel with no problem. I've been updating it daily just to be sure. I hope this helps. > >Anyway I was nearly through wothout a kernel been built yet >and the binaries were already installed. You know what happens then. >invalid system call and core dumps on nearly every /bin/binary. > >I had planned in case of failure to counter this by booting a live CD, >mount >the source tree and get through building a new kernel from a mounted >src environment. > >But the 5.0 system I had on CD had problems recognizing my >second FreeBSD partition on the bay drive of my Dell Inspiron 8000. >I could mount /dev/ad2s1 (ad2s2 is a NTFS) and it did not see >/dev/ad2s3 (Under 5.1 and 5.1-current I was able to mount /dev/ad2s3) > >Anyway, what I urgently need is a -current kernel with a /boot >or any other advice to pull myself by my own hairs out of this soup? > >Can anybody help me? > >-- >Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku_at_physik.rwth-aachen.de >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" _________________________________________________________________ MSN Shopping upgraded for the holidays! Snappier product search... http://shopping.msn.com From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 17 17:55:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A644616A4D4 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:55:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay01.kbs.net.au (relay01.kbs.net.au [203.220.32.149]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E2B43F75 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:55:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from timopie@dodo.com.au) Received: from [203.194.42.251] (helo=tori.amos.org) by relay01.kbs.net.au with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1ALv5E-0003fm-00 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:55:12 +1100 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 11:56:49 +1000 From: Timothy Opie To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20031118115649.58e3574f.timopie@dodo.com.au> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.8) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: BSD support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:55:15 -0000 Hi all, I am patiently saving money to purchase a laptop, hopefully by the end of this year. I would like to know if there are any laptop manufacturers that specificially support BSD, and by supporting they choose specific default hardware configurations that will give the least problems on BSD. I did a BSD-Google search for laptop and notebook, and noticed that Dell came up more than any other company. I have been contemplating getting the Dell Inspiron 5150. Does anyone have any comments on this model, or can anyone recommend a more BSD friendly laptop? Cheers, Tim _______________________________________________________ / Need to deal with core dumps? cat *.core > /dev/dsp \ / Timothy Opie timopie@fastmail.fm / / http://www.granularsynthesis.com / \___Then later you can granulate them!!! ;)_____________/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 17 19:35:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93E4616A4CE for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:35:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from ozlabs.org (ozlabs.org [203.10.76.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7359D43FAF for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:35:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (blackwater.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E4E02BD32 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:34:59 +1100 (EST) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 46DE1511FC; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:04:57 +1030 (CST) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:04:57 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Timothy Opie Message-ID: <20031118033457.GE32042@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20031118115649.58e3574f.timopie@dodo.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ao0agQACI2PjKWpV" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031118115649.58e3574f.timopie@dodo.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Laptops for FreeBSD (was: BSD support?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 03:35:04 -0000 --ao0agQACI2PjKWpV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] Single line paragraphs. On Tuesday, 18 November 2003 at 11:56:49 +1000, Timothy Opie wrote: > > Hi all, > > I am patiently saving money to purchase a laptop, hopefully by the > end of this year. I would like to know if there are any laptop > manufacturers that specificially support BSD, and by supporting they > choose specific default hardware configurations that will give the > least problems on BSD. > > I did a BSD-Google search for laptop and notebook, and noticed that > Dell came up more than any other company. I have been contemplating > getting the Dell Inspiron 5150. > > Does anyone have any comments on this model, or can anyone recommend > a more BSD friendly laptop? I believe the 5150 is OK. I have a 5100 which has given me some problems with X, but the 5150 is marginally different. The Ethernet chip (Broadcom 4400) is only supported in -CURRENT. Greg -- When replying to this message, please take care not to mutilate the original text. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/email.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --ao0agQACI2PjKWpV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/uZNhIubykFB6QiMRAgFtAJ90iPqXWshlX8Pc6YlBDPrrnQZkVQCeOv+2 3TD1m/HZfT/6ShZt207zS08= =Tkjz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ao0agQACI2PjKWpV-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 01:23:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD1C16A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:23:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.devrandom.org.uk (82-68-135-38.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.68.135.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C4143FB1 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:23:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from howells@kde.org) Received: from localhost.invalid (0-c-6e-e5-27-1.middleearth [192.168.1.194]) by mail.devrandom.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81A6F133A9 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:23:08 +0000 (GMT) From: Chris Howells Organization: K Desktop Environment To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:23:01 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.93 References: <20031118115649.58e3574f.timopie@dodo.com.au> In-Reply-To: <20031118115649.58e3574f.timopie@dodo.com.au> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 5863 DF82 C34D 7291 CC63 CA1B 17C2 2ED7 3379 5A2C MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200311180923.06256.howells@kde.org> Subject: Re: BSD support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:23:18 -0000 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On Tuesday 18 November 2003 01:56, Timothy Opie wrote: > I did a BSD-Google search for laptop and notebook, and noticed that Dell > came up more than any other company. I have been contemplating getting the > Dell Inspiron 5150. Personally I can _strongly_ recommend that you do _not_ buy Dell. I ended u= p=20 taking them to court over a laptop which didn't work from the start, which= =20 they refused to to anything about when they heard it was running Linux... = =20 even though it was quite clearly a hardware problem. I guess with FreeBSD a conversation with "Dell support" (in quotes because = I=20 believe it to be somewhat of any oxymoron) would go along the lines of "Fre= e=20 what? Can't do anything about that, we only support the hardware, you have = to=20 be able to get the problem under Windows XP for us to do anything". http://developer.kde.org/~howells/inspiron =2D --=20 Cheers, Chris Howells -- chris@chrishowells.co.uk, howells@kde.org Web: http://chrishowells.co.uk, PGP ID: 0x33795A2C KDE/Qt/C++/PHP Developer: http://www.kde.org =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/ueT6F8Iu1zN5WiwRAnZBAJ0URuWItQaNMz5N4+bRkpQzw8jFIgCeNZe+ kF8tBl7123ozq86kSPmqfUE=3D =3Df73l =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 01:53:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E2716A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:53:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from marley.bwbohh.net (marley.bwbohh.net [209.123.207.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3985B43F3F for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:53:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john@utzweb.net) Received: from john.utzweb.net.utzweb.net (12-211-116-59.client.attbi.com [12.211.116.59]) by marley.bwbohh.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A592653D8B for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 00:38:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:05:22 -0800 Message-ID: <8665hi9sh9.wl@utweb.net> From: John L.Utz III To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.10.1 (Watching The Wheels-pre) SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.3 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Unebigory=F2mae?=) APEL/10.3 Emacs/21.2 (i386--freebsd) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: flash firware upgrade for PRISM/INTERSIL from FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:53:08 -0000 Hi; My netgear MA311 card used to work pretty well in 4.8, but 4.9-RELEASE and the immediately previous snapshots dont/didnt work so well with my card; specifically a wake from sleep fails to relight the card properly, and it wont work again ( wi timeout.. ) without a reboot. so, given that my firware is pretty old (station 1.0.6 or thereabouts), it seems reasonable to upgrade to the latest version. important question is how? i blew away my win98 portion on my last FreeBSD upgrade because i realized that the only time i ever booted win98 was the last time that i installed it :-). thus, the traditional boot to windows and run the upgrade that way is right out. well, at least a significant pain in the rear... so i notice that linux has some tools to do this, but they appear to be kernel aware: http://linux.junsun.net/intersil-prism/.... Linux-based prism2_srec flashing steps Jouni Malinen made a few bug fixes and improvement to prism2_srec around Aug 2/3, 2003. Now prism2_srec can flash both primary firmware and station firmware. 1. Download hostap package from CVS or a release that is dated after Aug 3, 2003. 2. Enable PRISM2_DOWNLOAD_SUPPORT and PRISM2_NON_VOLATILE_DOWNLOAD in driver/modules/hostap_config.h. You simply just uncomment those two define's. 3. Compile the driver and install them to the kernel using your favorite method. do we have anything like that in our neighborhood? does this work on our stuff? From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 03:13:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD0616A4CF for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 03:13:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhub02.unibe.ch (mailhub02.unibe.ch [130.92.9.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B5743FE3 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 03:13:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roth@lara.unibe.ch) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhub02.unibe.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C42F76454; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:13:40 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailhub02.unibe.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailhub02 [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with LMTP id 05049-01-36; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:13:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from asterix.unibe.ch (asterix.unibe.ch [130.92.64.4]) by mailhub02.unibe.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B93D76452; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:13:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from lara.unibe.ch (lara [130.92.64.90]) by asterix.unibe.ch (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id hAIBDd511286; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:13:39 +0100 (MET) Received: (from roth@localhost) by lara.unibe.ch (8.12.9+Sun/8.12.9/Submit) id hAIBDcuC020407; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:13:38 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:13:38 +0100 From: Tobias Roth To: Chris Howells Message-ID: <20031118111338.GA20387@lara.unibe.ch> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Howells , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <20031118115649.58e3574f.timopie@dodo.com.au> <200311180923.06256.howells@kde.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200311180923.06256.howells@kde.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: SunOS lara 5.9 Generic_112233-04 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-5_10 X-Virus-checked: by University of Berne cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 11:13:46 -0000 On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 09:23:01AM +0000, Chris Howells wrote: > Personally I can _strongly_ recommend that you do _not_ buy Dell. I ended up > taking them to court over a laptop which didn't work from the start, which > they refused to to anything about when they heard it was running Linux... > even though it was quite clearly a hardware problem. well, your fault. i also had problems with a dell which were clearly hardware problems. i bought a 4150 in high summer and it would not complete a single buildworld. i called dell two or three times, never said anything about FreeBSD, just that it didn't work and that it was a hardware problem. i also told them i switched the drive to a different laptop and everything worked there, so it HAD to be a hardware problem specific to that machine. they believed it and took back the machine. i got a full refund, even postal fees. the only caveat was that i had to wait two months and call them a few times until i got my money back. my 4100 however, which has a Pentium III, not IV as the 4150, is still running perfectly. so my advice, buy one of those Centrino Pentium M models, they should not get as hot as a standard mobile PIV. dell is nice, and offers a lot for the price. i personally favour IBM but only because I get huge discounts, which brings them down right into the dell pricerange. i would not pay full price for them. and the other advice, get as much guarantee as you can. that's important for every brand, especially dell. greets, t. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 05:12:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8EB816A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 05:12:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.devrandom.org.uk (82-68-135-38.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.68.135.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A16B243FD7 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 05:12:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from howells@kde.org) Received: from secure.devrandom.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.devrandom.org.uk (Postfix) with SMTP id 54086133A9 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:12:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 138.253.231.145 (SquirrelMail authenticated user chris) by secure.devrandom.org.uk with HTTP; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:12:38 -0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <2764.138.253.231.145.1069161158.squirrel@secure.devrandom.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <20031118111338.GA20387@lara.unibe.ch> References: <20031118115649.58e3574f.timopie@dodo.com.au> <200311180923.06256.howells@kde.org> <20031118111338.GA20387@lara.unibe.ch> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:12:38 -0000 (GMT) From: "Chris Howells" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: BSD support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:12:44 -0000 > On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 09:23:01AM +0000, Chris Howells wrote: > well, your fault. Hardly. I was 18, buying my first laptop of my own (rather than using parents hardware), and I didn't particularly want to lie to them, because I believed that they were a good reputable company. How wrong I was. Quite clearly now I have learnt my lesson and would certainly have lied (and I will never buy from them again). And telling them that I had taken the hard disk out and tried it in a different machine would not have been an option: the hard disk was not removable and they would have told me that doing so had voided my warranty. Cheers, Chris Howells From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 05:53:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 865DC16A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 05:53:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhub02.unibe.ch (mailhub02.unibe.ch [130.92.9.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7883143FDF for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 05:53:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roth@lara.unibe.ch) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhub02.unibe.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 976197646E; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:53:02 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailhub02.unibe.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailhub02 [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with LMTP id 27268-01-96; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:53:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from asterix.unibe.ch (asterix.unibe.ch [130.92.64.4]) by mailhub02.unibe.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id E40CE76407; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:53:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from lara.unibe.ch (lara [130.92.64.90]) by asterix.unibe.ch (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id hAIDr0526454; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:53:00 +0100 (MET) Received: (from roth@localhost) by lara.unibe.ch (8.12.9+Sun/8.12.9/Submit) id hAIDqxMU020608; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:52:59 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:52:59 +0100 From: Tobias Roth To: Chris Howells Message-ID: <20031118135259.GA20592@lara.unibe.ch> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Howells , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <20031118115649.58e3574f.timopie@dodo.com.au> <200311180923.06256.howells@kde.org> <20031118111338.GA20387@lara.unibe.ch> <2764.138.253.231.145.1069161158.squirrel@secure.devrandom.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2764.138.253.231.145.1069161158.squirrel@secure.devrandom.org.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: SunOS lara 5.9 Generic_112233-04 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-5_10 X-Virus-checked: by University of Berne cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:53:05 -0000 On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 01:12:38PM -0000, Chris Howells wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 09:23:01AM +0000, Chris Howells wrote: > > > well, your fault. > > Hardly. I was 18, buying my first laptop of my own (rather than using > parents hardware), and I didn't particularly want to lie to them, because > I believed that they were a good reputable company. How wrong I was. Quite > clearly now I have learnt my lesson and would certainly have lied (and I > will never buy from them again). hehe. i didn't mean this as an offense. but one thing i learned that most support people do not believe you when you tell them that you are positive that the problem is a hardware fault (and i guess they are right not to believe everyone, as i imagine there are many people calling tech support who do not have a clue). they usually tell you to reinstall windows, and i guess that is a good idea, provided you actually runs windows. so i tend to tell them that i tried two different machines, two different operating systems and two spare parts of every peripheral. that usually makes them surrender :-) From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 06:08:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC0016A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 06:08:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay.poste.it (levigalo.cs.poste.it [62.241.4.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA51643FD7 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 06:08:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrea.franceschini@postecom.it) Received: from knute.cs.poste.it (192.168.44.146) by relay.poste.it (6.7.015) id 3FA846930002CC26 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:07:58 +0100 Received: from knute.cs.poste.it (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by knute.cs.poste.it (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAIE6e9w007028 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:06:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andrea.franceschini@postecom.it) Received: (from andrea@localhost) by knute.cs.poste.it (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id hAIE6eJ8007027 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:06:40 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: knute.cs.poste.it: andrea set sender to andrea.franceschini@postecom.it using -f Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:06:39 +0100 From: Andrea Franceschini To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20031118140639.GA2963@postecom.it> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <000e01d0cf60$d9cec080$0200a8c0@purple> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000e01d0cf60$d9cec080$0200a8c0@purple> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Subject: Firmware Upgrade for DWL-660 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:08:03 -0000 Hi All, I have a DWL-660 wireless card, It is recognized by the kernel (FreeBSD 5.1) but It only works in ad-hoc mode. When I try to put it in bss mode with a FreeBSD based hostap I see the led flashing for few minutes and the "Current BSSID:" field changing from "44:44:44:44:44" to the MAC address of the AP. After a while the led turns off and "Current BSSID:" change again to the old value. All this repeats again and again without getting associated. So ,as a first step, I'm trying to upgrade firmware version. But D-link doesn't provide the neither firmware nor the tools to upgrade, third parties tools (like orinoco's one) doesn't even recognize the card. Has someone any hints about upgrading the firmware on Lucent based cards? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 07:06:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0307816A4CF for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:06:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from inception.quiecom.com (inception.quiecom.com [216.127.82.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B55243FBD for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:06:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fish@fish-mail.com) X-ClientAddr: 208.44.60.32 Received: from [10.1.132.30] (internet-user.jwt.com [208.44.60.32]) (authenticated) by inception.quiecom.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAIEsB010528; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:54:12 -0500 From: Fish To: Chris Howells In-Reply-To: <200311180923.06256.howells@kde.org> References: <20031118115649.58e3574f.timopie@dodo.com.au> <200311180923.06256.howells@kde.org> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1069167586.689.28.camel@current> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:59:48 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-38.8, required 5, BAYES_01, EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION, IN_REP_TO, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_XIMIAN) cc: timopie@dodo.com.au cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:06:32 -0000 On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 04:23, Chris Howells wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > > On Tuesday 18 November 2003 01:56, Timothy Opie wrote: > > I did a BSD-Google search for laptop and notebook, and noticed that Dell > > came up more than any other company. I have been contemplating getting the > > Dell Inspiron 5150. > > Personally I can _strongly_ recommend that you do _not_ buy Dell. I ended up > taking them to court over a laptop which didn't work from the start, which > they refused to to anything about when they heard it was running Linux... > even though it was quite clearly a hardware problem. > > I guess with FreeBSD a conversation with "Dell support" (in quotes because I > believe it to be somewhat of any oxymoron) would go along the lines of "Free > what? Can't do anything about that, we only support the hardware, you have to > be able to get the problem under Windows XP for us to do anything". That's (at least in my case) not what happened when I had to call Dell support with a hardware issue on my Inspiron 8200. I'd had the machine for about a year, and the DVD-ROM had become increasingly unreliable. It finally called them about it when it got to the point where sometimes you could mount a disc, and sometimes you couldn't, but no matter what you certainly weren't going to read the disc. I call Dell support up, tell them I have a faulty DVD-ROM, and that it will not read any CD/DVD. They ask me some Windows-specific questions (driver versions, service pack, et cetera) and I told them I wasn't running Windows. At this point, it started going the way you'd expect, and they told me they didn't support FreeBSD, and that they couldn't help me. I told them that I didn't need software support, as it was a hardware issue, and explained that the machine refused to read a disc to the point where it wouldn't boot from a Windows install CD even if I wanted it to. They said okay, it's a hardware issue, you'll have your new drive tomorrow. Sorry if I got a bit verbose there, but I wanted to put forth that Dell is capable of providing reasonable hardware support, if you give them no other choice. Fish From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 07:32:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AADC16A55F for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:32:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp802.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp802.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A553443FAF for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:32:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fscked@pacbell.net) Received: from adsl-64-171-188-243.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO pacbell.net) (fscked@pacbell.net@64.171.188.243 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Nov 2003 15:32:36 -0000 Message-ID: <3FBA3B47.4040301@pacbell.net> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:31:19 -0800 From: richard childers / kg6hac User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Howells References: <20031118115649.58e3574f.timopie@dodo.com.au> <200311180923.06256.howells@kde.org> In-Reply-To: <200311180923.06256.howells@kde.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: re: Dell Computers X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:32:56 -0000 Speaking of crooked companies ... I've had some problems with Dell, also. I'm kind of surprised that no one has pointed out that Dell uses the same 'Crooked E' logo in their name that Enron used. Surely there is a connection there. And, yet, the media do not seem to find it of interest. Maybe you have to kick them in the 'shin'. (-: That's probably because the connection between the two companies is so obvious that, were it ever to become a subject for public attention, it might result in a major realignment of political priorities. It's worth contemplating how much Dell equipment has been incorporated into the US government's infrastructure ... and where. Regards, Richard Childers / Senior Engineer Daemonized Networking Services https://www.daemonized.com (415) 759-5571 Chris Howells wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >Hi, > >On Tuesday 18 November 2003 01:56, Timothy Opie wrote: > > >>I did a BSD-Google search for laptop and notebook, and noticed that Dell >>came up more than any other company. I have been contemplating getting the >>Dell Inspiron 5150. >> >> > >Personally I can _strongly_ recommend that you do _not_ buy Dell. I ended up >taking them to court over a laptop which didn't work from the start, which >they refused to to anything about when they heard it was running Linux... >even though it was quite clearly a hardware problem. > > > > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 07:54:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB9116A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:54:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from andrea.pop4.net (skidway.pop4.net [216.234.109.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CDFC343FA3 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:54:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vev@michvhf.com) Received: (qmail 59160 invoked by uid 1008); 18 Nov 2003 15:54:08 -0000 Received: from vev@michvhf.com by www.pop4.net with qmail-scanner-0.96 (uvscan: v4.1.40/v4156. . Clean. Processed in 0.619104 secs); 18 Nov 2003 15:54:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO paprika.michvhf.com) (67.36.71.182) by 0 with SMTP; 18 Nov 2003 15:54:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 40450 invoked by uid 1001); 18 Nov 2003 15:54:10 -0000 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:54:10 -0500 (EST) From: Vince Vielhaber To: richard childers / kg6hac In-Reply-To: <3FBA3B47.4040301@pacbell.net> Message-ID: References: <20031118115649.58e3574f.timopie@dodo.com.au> <200311180923.06256.howells@kde.org> <3FBA3B47.4040301@pacbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org cc: Chris Howells Subject: re: Dell Computers X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:54:13 -0000 On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, richard childers / kg6hac wrote: > It's worth contemplating how much Dell equipment has been incorporated > into the US government's infrastructure ... and where. I'm alot less worried about Dell equipment used by the US govt than I am about them using windows! Vince. -- Fast, inexpensive internet service 56k and beyond! http://www.pop4.net/ http://www.meanstreamradio.com http://www.unknown-artists.com Online radio: It's not file sharing, it's just radio. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 08:13:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A21116A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:13:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BC6543FD7 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:13:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAIGDJeG057831; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:13:20 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:11:55 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20031118.091155.15900219.imp@bsdimp.com> To: roth@iam.unibe.ch From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20031118135259.GA20592@lara.unibe.ch> References: <20031118111338.GA20387@lara.unibe.ch> <2764.138.253.231.145.1069161158.squirrel@secure.devrandom.org.uk> <20031118135259.GA20592@lara.unibe.ch> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org cc: howells@kde.org Subject: Re: BSD support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:13:24 -0000 In message: <20031118135259.GA20592@lara.unibe.ch> Tobias Roth writes: : so i tend to tell them that i tried two different machines, two different : operating systems and two spare parts of every peripheral. that usually : makes them surrender :-) Yes. I've hit the "So, you sound like a computer professional." conversation tidbit on the Indian Telecenter cheat sheet several times. I try not to lie, but I'll often not tell the whole truth. It is the same thing that if someone asks me how I'm doing. I'd usually tell them something like "lousy" but wouldn't tell them the details if they are personal ("I ran into the table last night and racked myself and now I have a big bruise on my penis"). It is the same with tech support. They just need to know that the disk drive is failing, they don't need to know the details. Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 08:32:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1E8216A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:32:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from moo.sysabend.org (moo.sysabend.org [66.111.41.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EECE843F75 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:32:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ragnar@sysabend.org) Received: by moo.sysabend.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F4F1702; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:32:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moo.sysabend.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E19938; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:32:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:32:51 -0800 (PST) From: Jamie Bowden To: Tobias Roth In-Reply-To: <20031118135259.GA20592@lara.unibe.ch> Message-ID: <20031118083017.A26361-100000@moo.sysabend.org> X-representing: Only myself. X-badge: We don't need no stinking badges. X-obligatory-profanity: Fuck X-moo: Moo. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org cc: Chris Howells Subject: Re: BSD support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:32:52 -0000 On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Tobias Roth wrote: > On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 01:12:38PM -0000, Chris Howells wrote: > so i tend to tell them that i tried two different machines, two > different operating systems and two spare parts of every peripheral. > that usually makes them surrender :-) This is not unique to Dell. The only places I can call and get parts same day shipped to me without question are Sun, SGI, and Cisco currently. This is a benefit of paying for support at certain levels though, which I personally would not be able to afford. Jamie Bowden -- "It was half way to Rivendell when the drugs began to take hold" Hunter S Tolkien "Fear and Loathing in Barad Dur" Iain Bowen From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 09:00:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D316316A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:00:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.kukulies.org (www.kukulies.org [213.146.112.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C5043FCB for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:00:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kuku@www.kukulies.org) Received: from www.kukulies.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.kukulies.org (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAIH08oR095895; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:00:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from kuku@www.kukulies.org) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by www.kukulies.org (8.12.10/8.12.6/Submit) id hAIH06Y9095894; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:00:06 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:00:06 +0100 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" To: richard childers / kg6hac Message-ID: <20031118170005.GA95739@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> References: <20031118115649.58e3574f.timopie@dodo.com.au> <200311180923.06256.howells@kde.org> <3FBA3B47.4040301@pacbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FBA3B47.4040301@pacbell.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org cc: Chris Howells Subject: Re: Dell Computers X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:00:13 -0000 On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 07:31:19AM -0800, richard childers / kg6hac wrote: > Speaking of crooked companies ... I've had some problems with Dell, also. > I bought a Dell Inspiron 8000 in August 2001 with DVD Reader and CDRW (two drives), a 1600x1200 XGA display, Gefore2Go and a couple of extras. After the warranty period had expired, as it has to happen, the display gave up the ghost (fading intensity etc. - I reported here or somewhere else). For 700 Eur (that was about the same in Dollars a few months ago) I got a brand new display plus a full one year warranty for the whole computer. Now this time the luck was on my side: first off, the built in hard disk went broke (although very painful for the data loss) and I got it replaced in a 24h bring in service. Next, and that happened 10 days ago, the DVD drive started to fail. First the symptom was only in Windows 2000 which I had as a second OS on the HD and when calling their support on the phone they asked me if I could insert the diagnosis disk (which I hadn't - it had been stolen with several other CD in a CD brief case from my car a year ago). OK they asked, can you boot from a CD. First I could (one time) and from that they concluded that it must be a problem with windows and I should re-install it. After I finished the phone conversation I noticed that now the booting of the CD also failed and after I told them that a brand new original MS Windows XP/Pro CD did not boot, they believed me and I got the DVD drive repaired. Although I didn't lie in this case I agree with Warner, it's better to tell not always the whole story. All in all I cannot say that Dell is a bad choice. They are steep in price but their service isn't that bad. Despite of the ACPCI hacks and NVidia quirks I had to go through recently I can say that, at least the Inspiron Series is well suited for FreeBSD. I have heard of stories far worse with Linux and other brands. -- Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku_at_physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 09:05:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEAA416A4CF for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:05:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from tqgrp.com (wsip-66-210-115-146.ri.ri.cox.net [66.210.115.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA6D43FE3 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:05:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tim@tqgroup.com) Received: from [192.168.3.53] (ego-osx.tazznetworks.com [192.168.3.53]) by tqgrp.com (8.12.9/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hAIH5J0D000653 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:05:19 -0500 (EST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:05:17 -0500 From: Tim Ranieri To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: test: please ignore X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:05:21 -0000 Sorry for the test From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 09:06:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA75D16A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:06:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from gs166.sp.cs.cmu.edu (GS166.SP.CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.205.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C14543FBD for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:06:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dpelleg@gs166.sp.cs.cmu.edu) Sender: dpelleg@gs166.sp.cs.cmu.edu To: Timothy Opie References: <20031118115649.58e3574f.timopie@dodo.com.au> From: Dan Pelleg Date: 18 Nov 2003 12:05:35 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20031118115649.58e3574f.timopie@dodo.com.au> Message-ID: Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:06:26 -0000 Timothy Opie writes: > Hi all, > > I am patiently saving money to purchase a laptop, hopefully by the end of this year. I would like to know if there are any laptop manufacturers that specificially support BSD, and by supporting they choose specific default hardware configurations that will give the least problems on BSD. > > I did a BSD-Google search for laptop and notebook, and noticed that Dell came up more than any other company. I have been contemplating getting the Dell Inspiron 5150. > I noticed that too when doing google/bsd searches. Part of this is due to the fact that the Dell site has a directory called "bsd", presumably some internal acronym unrelated to BSD. Google mis-classifies those pages as BSD-related. For example, the following is a first-page hit for "laptop": http://www.dell.com/us/en/bsd/products/model_latit_latit_d800.htm -- Dan Pelleg From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 09:30:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B015816A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:30:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from tazznetworks.com (wsip-66-210-115-146.ri.ri.cox.net [66.210.115.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7251B43F93 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:30:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from idb@tazznetworks.com) content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4712.0 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 09:22:21 -0500 Message-ID: <120DB10316D2B946A3A1BEFB82324BB12F07C1@kodos.tazznetworks.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: IBM T23 and wifi problem Thread-Index: AcOp7De0MuanmnfDTMGj8/Y3tSF1qw+AD0APQ- From: "Dean I. Bogdanovic" To: Subject: IBM T23 and wifi problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:30:12 -0000 I have been running 5.1 release for a while and I was not able to configure wifi card on it, but I was not concerned about it. Since recently I got a wireless router for home, that became an issue. I tried to find info on the web (mighty google) and followed the found information from there. As the last step I upgraded to 5.1 current in hope to solve the problem, but no luck. HW IBM t23 Lucent Orinoco Silver Card Linksys Network PC card v3 802.11 b This is what I done so far: in the 5.1 release I used config file that you posted in May this year as the starting point. With generic and changed kernel config I could not get the card to be recognized here is from the message log although the cardbus adapter was recognized kernel: cbb0: +ADw-TI1420 PCI-CardBus Bridge+AD4- mem 0x50000000-0x50000fff irq 9 at device 0.0 on pci2 kernel: cardbus0: +ADw-CardBus bus+AD4- on cbb0 kernel: pccard0: +ADw-16-bit PCCard bus+AD4- on cbb0 kernel: cbb0: +AFs-MPSAFE+AF0- kernel: cbb1: +ADw-TI1420 PCI-CardBus Bridge+AD4- mem 0x51000000-0x51000fff irq 5 at device 0.1 on pci2 kernel: cardbus1: +ADw-CardBus bus+AD4- on cbb1 kernel: pccard1: +ADw-16-bit PCCard bus+AD4- on cbb1 kernel: cbb1: +AFs-MPSAFE+AF0- kernel: pci2: +ADw-simple comms+AD4- at device 2.0 (no driver attached) I saw this later in the log Nov 10 08:08:05 volta kernel: cbb0: Unsupported card type detected Nov 10 08:08:05 volta kernel: cbb1: Unsupported card type detected where no card was in the slots. After I tried upgrading to current and same thing happend. Then I tried with OLDCARD config, but still when I insert the cards, they are not recognized When I run the pccardc dumpcis 0 slots found If anyone could give me some hints or directions on this problem I would appreciate it a lot Also I have a question for the list admin. I am trying to post to the list, but it is bouncing. The reason I am seeing is that my host is not Thank you in advance Dean Key fingerprint +AD0- D222 7786 C06A AA37 3E1D 7907 A0DA 3D43 BCA6 E313 +AD0APQA9AD0APQA9AD0APQA9AD0APQA9AD0APQA9AD0APQA9AD0APQA9AD0APQA9AD0APQA9AD0APQA9AD0APQA9AD0APQA9AD0APQA9AD0APQA9AD0APQA9AD0APQ- In the beginning, there was The Word. And The Word was Content-type: text/plain From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 09:50:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B36D016A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:50:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from rosebud.alerce.com (w092.z064001164.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.164.92]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A8A43FB1 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:50:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hartzell@rosebud.alerce.com) Received: from rosebud.alerce.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rosebud.alerce.com (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAIHofhi001197; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:50:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hartzell@rosebud.alerce.com) Received: (from hartzell@localhost) by rosebud.alerce.com (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id hAIHodua001193; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:50:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hartzell) From: George Hartzell MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16314.23535.359923.958868@rosebud.alerce.com> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:50:39 -0800 To: Tobias Roth In-Reply-To: <20031118111338.GA20387@lara.unibe.ch> References: <20031118115649.58e3574f.timopie@dodo.com.au> <200311180923.06256.howells@kde.org> <20031118111338.GA20387@lara.unibe.ch> X-Mailer: VM 7.14 under 21.4 (patch 14) "Reasonable Discussion" XEmacs Lucid cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org cc: Chris Howells Subject: Re: BSD support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: hartzell@kestrel.alerce.com List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:50:48 -0000 Tobias Roth writes: > [...] > so my advice, buy one of those Centrino Pentium M models, they should > not get as hot as a standard mobile PIV. dell is nice, and offers a lot > for the price. [...] I'd love to see a list (or just a series of me-too's) of Centrino laptops and their FreeBSD compatibility. For example, does the ACPI/APM work (suspend, hibernate)? Video? Wireless (probably not...)? g. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 09:58:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D21E16A4CF for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:58:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from flashmail.com (mail.flashmail.com [216.239.161.152]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26AFD43FDD for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:58:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmusits@flashmail.com) Received: from [192.168.0.6] (unverified [68.171.165.131]) by flashmail.com (SurgeMail 1.5e) with ESMTP id 14936886 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:01:41 -0800 From: Jason Scott Musits To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1069178129.218.12.camel@.sbtnvt.adelphia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 Date: 18 Nov 2003 12:55:29 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com Subject: Thinkpad 600E and sound X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:58:13 -0000 Hey all, I've been trying to get sound working on my Thinkpad 600E with FreeBDS 4.8 but to no avail. I seem to be having the same problem as Boris http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/163/2002/8/0/9447156/. I have changed the appropriate lines in /sys/conf/files and am using the line: device pcm0 at isa? port 0x52c irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x10 in my kernel configuration file. If anyone has any ideas it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Jason From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 11:25:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3275C16A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 11:25:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from electricrain.com (electricrain.com [64.71.143.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 758C643FD7 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 11:25:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fuzzy@electricrain.com) Received: (qmail 30347 invoked by uid 540); 18 Nov 2003 19:25:02 -0000 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 11:25:02 -0800 From: Chris Doherty To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20031118192502.GD17016@zot.electricrain.com> References: <1069178129.218.12.camel@.sbtnvt.adelphia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1069178129.218.12.camel@.sbtnvt.adelphia.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: XEmacs X-Koan: mu. X-Message-Flag: This message contains absolutely no malicious code. Organization: The Inside Foundation Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and sound X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: chris-freebsd@randomcamel.net List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:25:06 -0000 On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 12:55:29PM -0500, Jason Scott Musits said: > Hey all, > > I've been trying to get sound working on my Thinkpad 600E with FreeBDS > 4.8 but to no avail. I seem to be having the same problem as Boris > http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/163/2002/8/0/9447156/. I have > changed the appropriate lines in /sys/conf/files and am using the line: > device pcm0 at isa? port 0x52c irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x10 > in my kernel configuration file. If anyone has any ideas it would be > greatly appreciated. I have a 600E running -STABLE, and sound works with just these options: device pcm options PNPBIOS and maybe some BIOS tweak that I've forgotten about. :-) this yields the following line at boot: pcm0: at port 0x530-0x53f,0x388-0x38b,0x220-0x233 irq 5 drq 1,0 on isa0 one thing to be aware of is that pcm and APM do not play nice together: if you suspend the machine, sound will be broken until the next reboot. I doubt it's biting you now, of course. chris ------------------------------- Chris Doherty chris [at] randomcamel.net "I think," said Christopher Robin, "that we ought to eat all our provisions now, so we won't have so much to carry." -- A. A. Milne ------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 12:59:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAEF616A4CF for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:59:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10E7D43F3F for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:59:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AMCwt-0004ww-00 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:59:47 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from sea.gmane.org ([80.91.224.252]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AMCws-0004wo-00 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:59:46 +0100 Received: from news by sea.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AMCws-0003N6-00 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:59:46 +0100 From: Jesse Guardiani Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:59:46 -0500 Organization: WingNET Lines: 35 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.2 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: usb v1.1 external 2.0" hard disk problems with FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:59:52 -0000 Howdy list, I'm running FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE. I just bought a generic USB 1.1/2.0/firewire external drive enclosure for my 32gb Travelstar 12.5mm hard drive. The device shows up like this: Nov 18 14:06:16 trevarthan kernel: umass0: Acer Labs USB 2.0 Storage Device, rev 2.00/1.03, addr 3 Nov 18 14:06:16 trevarthan kernel: da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 Nov 18 14:06:17 trevarthan kernel: da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device Nov 18 14:06:17 trevarthan kernel: da0: 1.000MB/s transfers Nov 18 14:06:17 trevarthan kernel: da0: 30520MB (62506080 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 3890C) But `ls -al /dev/da*` reveals no slices: crw-r-----  1 root  operator    4,  22 Nov 18 13:35 /dev/da0 The hard disk inside this enclosure was formatted with a 10gig FAT32 partition. It works fine in a Coolmax Gemini 2.5" USB 2.0/1.1 drive enclosure, and it works fine in this enclosure as long as I'm running Windows XP. But it just doesn't want to work under FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE for some reason... Does anyone have any clues to help get this drive working? Thanks! -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 13:03:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43FBB16A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:03:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail6.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B49743FDD for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:03:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 24137 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2003 21:03:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender )encrypted SMTP for ; 18 Nov 2003 21:03:55 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAIL3pFn019694; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:03:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.4 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3FB6A344.14489.1B3A005@localhost> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:03:50 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: Dylan Wylie X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) cc: current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: RE: cardbus no longer working with -CURRENT and ACPI X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:03:59 -0000 On 15-Nov-2003 Dylan Wylie wrote: > List, > > Running -CURRENT now gives the following problem on a Compaq Pressario 1600- > XL144 laptop: > > [...] > cbb0: at device 10.0 on pci0 > cardbus0: on cbb0 > pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 > pcib0: _PRS resource entry has unsupported type 0 > cbb: Unable to map IRQ... > device_probe_and_attach: cbb0 attache returned 12 > [...] Umm. ARGH! Can you try this: Index: acpi_pcib.c =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/cvs/src/sys/dev/acpica/acpi_pcib.c,v retrieving revision 1.33 diff -u -r1.33 acpi_pcib.c --- acpi_pcib.c 14 Nov 2003 21:36:09 -0000 1.33 +++ acpi_pcib.c 18 Nov 2003 19:40:31 -0000 @@ -287,7 +287,7 @@ } /* type-check the resource we've got */ - if (prsres->Id != ACPI_RSTYPE_IRQ || prsres->Id != ACPI_RSTYPE_EXT_IRQ) { + if (prsres->Id != ACPI_RSTYPE_IRQ && prsres->Id != ACPI_RSTYPE_EXT_IRQ) { device_printf(pcib, "_PRS resource entry has unsupported type %d\n", prsres->Id); goto out; -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 13:40:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25BA616A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:40:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from arginine.spc.org (arginine.spc.org [195.206.69.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0778F43FD7 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:40:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bms@spc.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arginine.spc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F16965476; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:40:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from arginine.spc.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (arginine.spc.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 50703-03-7; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:40:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from saboteur.dek.spc.org (unknown [82.147.19.91]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by arginine.spc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EBEB65292; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:40:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: by saboteur.dek.spc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 12F181C; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:40:36 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:40:36 +0000 From: Bruce M Simpson To: Jesse Guardiani Message-ID: <20031118214036.GF89189@saboteur.dek.spc.org> Mail-Followup-To: Jesse Guardiani , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: usb v1.1 external 2.0" hard disk problems with FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:40:52 -0000 On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 03:59:46PM -0500, Jesse Guardiani wrote: > I'm running FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE. I just bought a generic > USB 1.1/2.0/firewire external drive enclosure for my 32gb > Travelstar 12.5mm hard drive. I began hacking a uata (USB->ATA) bridge driver with sos's help today. It might help you. Some of the cheaper enclosures use USB->ATA bridge chips which aren't handled by the standard umass driver. Before anyone asks, these are evil, and don't talk SCSI/UFI/etc, they talk ATA task file register over USB, so branching off ata is more appropriate; I should be able to leverage most of the existing ATAng code base for this. BMS From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 14:18:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9811A16A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:18:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5A7F43F3F for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:18:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AMEBC-0005en-00 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 23:18:38 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from sea.gmane.org ([80.91.224.252]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AMEBA-0005ef-00 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 23:18:37 +0100 Received: from news by sea.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AMEBA-0003In-00 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 23:18:36 +0100 From: Jesse Guardiani Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:18:36 -0500 Organization: WingNET Lines: 53 Message-ID: References: <20031118214036.GF89189@saboteur.dek.spc.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.2 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Re: usb v1.1 external 2.0" hard disk problems with FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:18:41 -0000 Bruce M Simpson wrote: > On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 03:59:46PM -0500, Jesse Guardiani wrote: >> I'm running FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE. I just bought a generic >> USB 1.1/2.0/firewire external drive enclosure for my 32gb >> Travelstar 12.5mm hard drive. > > I began hacking a uata (USB->ATA) bridge driver with sos's help today. > > It might help you. I seriously doubt it. :) I don't mind C coding a bit, but I'm afraid I don't know where to start here. Can anyone walk me through a low level troubleshooting process? Do I have to have CAMDEBUG in my kernel? (not a problem if I DO, but I don't right now) I'd personally like to know why the /dev/da0sN device isn't being created. I think identifying the reason for it not being created > Some of the cheaper enclosures use USB->ATA bridge > chips which aren't handled by the standard umass driver. Might be the case here. Windows XP detects it as a "USB to ATAPI" bridge though. The Coolmax Gemini enclosure (the one that works with FreeBSD) is detected by Windows XP as a genuine "USB to IDE" device. > Before anyone asks, these are evil, and don't talk SCSI/UFI/etc, they > talk ATA task file register over USB, so branching off ata is more > appropriate; I should be able to leverage most of the existing ATAng > code base for this. Well, I'd be happy to help you test if we can somehow confirm that my device is indeed one of these ugly USB->ATA devices. I'm not 100% convinced though. Take a look at these two posts that have exactly the same dmesg: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2003-August/008504.html http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hardware/2003-July/000393.html The last fellow shows that his drive works perfectly under Linux with SCSI emulation. -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 14:59:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D5C416A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:59:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from flashmail.com (mail.flashmail.com [216.239.161.152]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A31143FE3 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:59:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmusits@flashmail.com) Received: from [192.168.0.6] (unverified [68.171.165.131]) by flashmail.com (SurgeMail 1.5e) with ESMTP id 15134322 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:02:45 -0800 From: Jason Scott Musits To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1069196190.318.25.camel@.sbtnvt.adelphia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 Date: 18 Nov 2003 17:56:30 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com Subject: Thinkpad 600E and sound X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:59:13 -0000 I tried the configuration Chris suggested: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2003-November/002346.html and I still didn't have any luck. dmesg gives me the following lines: csa0: mem 0x50000000-0x500fffff,0x50100000-0x50100fff irq 11 at device 6.0 on pci0 csa: card is Unknown/invalid SSID (CS4610) device_probe_and_attach: csa0 attach returned 6 And when I try to run mpg123 I get the following error: Can't open /dev/dsp If I try and run XMMS I get this error: ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp): Device not configured Anyone have any ideas? Thanks in advance, Jason From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 15:31:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0C0216A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:31:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from aristo.essus.net (pc96.konin.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl [217.99.114.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819BE43FAF for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:31:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nexus@essus.net) Received: by aristo.essus.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0707D10B70; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 00:28:49 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 00:28:49 +0100 From: Bohdan Horst To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20031118232849.GA18364@essus.net> References: <1069178129.218.12.camel@.sbtnvt.adelphia.net> <20031118192502.GD17016@zot.electricrain.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031118192502.GD17016@zot.electricrain.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and sound X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 23:31:17 -0000 On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 11:25:02AM -0800, Chris Doherty wrote: > On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 12:55:29PM -0500, Jason Scott Musits said: > > Hey all, > > > > I've been trying to get sound working on my Thinkpad 600E with FreeBDS > > 4.8 but to no avail. I seem to be having the same problem as Boris > > http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/163/2002/8/0/9447156/. I have > > changed the appropriate lines in /sys/conf/files and am using the line: > > device pcm0 at isa? port 0x52c irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x10 > > in my kernel configuration file. If anyone has any ideas it would be > > greatly appreciated. > > I have a 600E running -STABLE, and sound works with just these options: > > device pcm > options PNPBIOS > > and maybe some BIOS tweak that I've forgotten about. :-) this yields the > following line at boot: > > pcm0: at port 0x530-0x53f,0x388-0x38b,0x220-0x233 irq 5 drq > 1,0 on isa0 > > > one thing to be aware of is that pcm and APM do not play nice together: if > you suspend the machine, sound will be broken until the next reboot. I > doubt it's biting you now, of course. > KERNEL: [...] #device pcm [...] loader.conf: [...] snd_csa_load="YES" [...] dmesg: [...] csa0: mem 0x50000000-0x500fffff,0x50100000-0x50100fff irq 7 at device 6.0 on pci0 csa: card is Thinkpad 600X/A20/T20 pcm0: on csa0 pcm0: [...] rc.suspend: [...] logger -t apmd suspend at `date +'%Y%m%d %H:%M:%S'` kldunload snd_csa sync && sync && sync [...] rc.resume: [...] logger -t apmd resumed at `date +'%Y%m%d %H:%M:%S'` kldload snd_csa mixer vol 85 pcm 85 [...] and works fine for me :))) -- / irl: Bohdan 'Nexus' Horst | irc: Nexus \ {----------------------v-------^---------------} \ http://irc.pl/nexus | mailto: nexus&irc.pl / From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 16:50:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6027E16A4CF for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:50:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from postal3.es.net (postal3.es.net [198.128.3.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A3743FDF for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:50:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal3.es.net (Postal Node 3) with ESMTP (SSL) id MUA74016; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:50:29 -0800 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 767B95D08; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:50:29 -0800 (PST) To: Jason Scott Musits In-Reply-To: Message from Jason Scott Musits <1069196190.318.25.camel@.sbtnvt.adelphia.net> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:50:29 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20031119005029.767B95D08@ptavv.es.net> cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and sound X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 00:50:32 -0000 > From: Jason Scott Musits > Date: 18 Nov 2003 17:56:30 -0500 > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > I tried the configuration Chris suggested: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2003-November/002346.html > and I still didn't have any luck. dmesg gives me the following lines: > csa0: mem 0x50000000-0x500fffff,0x50100000-0x50100fff > irq 11 at device 6.0 on pci0 > csa: card is Unknown/invalid SSID (CS4610) > device_probe_and_attach: csa0 attach returned 6 > > And when I try to run mpg123 I get the following error: > Can't open /dev/dsp > > If I try and run XMMS I get this error: > ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp): Device not configured > > Anyone have any ideas? This indicates that the sound system is being connected as a PCI device and that won't work. Are you sure you made the correct patch to /sys/conf/files? I don't have my 600E here, so I can't tell exactly what the proper output of the device probe is, but I do remember that this message indicated and incorrect attachment. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 16:52:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D76316A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:52:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from postal2.es.net (proxy.es.net [198.128.3.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3819E43FBD for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:52:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal2.es.net (Postal Node 2) with ESMTP (SSL) id MUA74016; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:52:18 -0800 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 54C425D07; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:52:18 -0800 (PST) To: Bohdan Horst In-Reply-To: Message from Bohdan Horst of "Wed, 19 Nov 2003 00:28:49 +0100." <20031118232849.GA18364@essus.net> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:52:18 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20031119005218.54C425D07@ptavv.es.net> cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and sound X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 00:52:21 -0000 > Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 00:28:49 +0100 > From: Bohdan Horst > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 11:25:02AM -0800, Chris Doherty wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 12:55:29PM -0500, Jason Scott Musits said: > > > Hey all, > > > > > > I've been trying to get sound working on my Thinkpad 600E with FreeBDS > > > 4.8 but to no avail. I seem to be having the same problem as Boris > > > http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/163/2002/8/0/9447156/. I have > > > changed the appropriate lines in /sys/conf/files and am using the line: > > > device pcm0 at isa? port 0x52c irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x10 > > > in my kernel configuration file. If anyone has any ideas it would be > > > greatly appreciated. > > > > I have a 600E running -STABLE, and sound works with just these options: > > > > device pcm > > options PNPBIOS > > > > and maybe some BIOS tweak that I've forgotten about. :-) this yields the > > following line at boot: > > > > pcm0: at port 0x530-0x53f,0x388-0x38b,0x220-0x233 irq 5 drq > > 1,0 on isa0 > > > > > > one thing to be aware of is that pcm and APM do not play nice together: if > > you suspend the machine, sound will be broken until the next reboot. I > > doubt it's biting you now, of course. > > > > KERNEL: > [...] > #device pcm > [...] > > loader.conf: > [...] > snd_csa_load="YES" > [...] > > dmesg: > [...] > csa0: mem 0x50000000-0x500fffff,0x50100000-0x50100fff irq 7 at device 6.0 on pci0 > csa: card is Thinkpad 600X/A20/T20 > pcm0: on csa0 > pcm0: > [...] > > rc.suspend: > [...] > logger -t apmd suspend at `date +'%Y%m%d %H:%M:%S'` > kldunload snd_csa > sync && sync && sync > [...] > > rc.resume: > [...] > logger -t apmd resumed at `date +'%Y%m%d %H:%M:%S'` > kldload snd_csa > mixer vol 85 pcm 85 > [...] > > and works fine for me :))) > > -- > / irl: Bohdan 'Nexus' Horst | irc: Nexus \ > {----------------------v-------^---------------} > \ http://irc.pl/nexus | mailto: nexus&irc.pl / > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Note that the sound system on the 600E is very different from the 600X Loading SND_CSA will not work on the 600E. The 600E is very weird in how it interfaces the sound chip. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 19:06:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F90116A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:06:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail7.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89CC343FD7 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:06:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@code-fu.com) Received: (qmail 11052 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2003 03:06:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO code-fu.com) ([66.92.151.60]) (envelope-sender )encrypted SMTP for ; 19 Nov 2003 03:06:21 -0000 Message-ID: <3FBADE2E.8050803@code-fu.com> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:06:22 -0500 From: "Michael A. Smith" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031109 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: timopie@dodo.com.au, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: BSD support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 03:06:22 -0000 > I am patiently saving money to purchase a laptop, hopefully by the end > of this year. I would like to know if there are any laptop > manufacturers that specificially support BSD, and by supporting they > choose specific default hardware configurations that will give the > least problems on BSD. I have a bottom-of-the-line Sony Vaio (PCG-FX101). I got it new a few years ago (it's a Celeron 600). I installed FreeBSD on it the day I brought it home and it's been great. It was the cheapest Vaio I could get, and doesn't have too many bells and whistles (no memory stick, but it's got UBS and FireWire, etc...). Video was never a problem. Sound was supported in the FreeBSD version released just after I bought it. I'm running 4.9-STABLE on it now and everything's supported but the modem (it sees the FireWire bus, but I've never used it). I'd suggest looking for slightly older hardware -- stuff that's in the middle of the price range or lower. It has a better chance of being supported, and is cheaper. I'd definitely recommend my Vaio. -- Michael A. Smith Programmer at Large From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 21:00:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6415616A4CE; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:00:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from perrin.nxad.com (internal.nxad.com [69.1.70.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 574CC43FBF; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:00:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sean@nxad.com) Received: by perrin.nxad.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B2CB52106A; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:59:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:59:46 -0800 From: Sean Chittenden To: Eugene Message-ID: <20031119045946.GA58883@perrin.nxad.com> References: <200311181553.16274.eugene3@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200311181553.16274.eugene3@web.de> X-PGP-Key: finger seanc@FreeBSD.org X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3849 3760 1AFE 7B17 11A0 83A6 DD99 E31F BC84 B341 X-Web-Homepage: http://sean.chittenden.org/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: mobile@FreeBSD.org cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org cc: net@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: bsd-airtools update to 0.3 important for freebsd5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 05:00:26 -0000 > http://dachb0den.com/users/h1kari/work/.0-day/bsd-airtools-v0.3.tgz > > that one works without any problems so far on my machine # uname -a FreeBSD localhost 5.1-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT #0: Mon Nov 17 15:08:10 PST 2003 sean@localhost:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/POSDELLAPTOP i386 # dmesg -a | grep wi0 wi0: at port 0x100-0x13f irq 11 function 0 config 1 on pccard0 wi0: 802.11 address: 00:30:ab:11:f6:88 wi0: using RF:PRISM2 MAC:HFA3841 CARD:HWB3163 rev.A wi0: Intersil Firmware: Primary (0.3.0), Station (0.8.3) wi0: 11b rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps # dstumbler wi0 -o [dstumbler fires up and works beautifully] Sweet! Where'd you find this version of bsd-airtools? Regardless, the port has been updated, thank you. -sc ____________________________________ / dstumbler is back in the hizouse!! \ \ (or some such laughable nonsense) / ------------------------------------ \ , , \ /( )` \ \ \___ / | /- _ `-/ ' (/\/ \ \ /\ / / | ` \ O O ) / | `-^--'`< ' (_.) _ ) / `.___/` / `-----' / <----. __ / __ \ <----|====O)))==) \) /==== <----' `--' `.__,' \ | | \ / ______( (_ / \______ ,' ,-----' | \ `--{__________) \/ -- Sean Chittenden From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 19 04:59:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10DA16A4CE for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 04:59:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [66.92.160.223]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1099243FDF for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 04:59:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mdodd@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [66.92.160.223]) by sasami.jurai.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAJCxKFW044621; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:59:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mdodd@FreeBSD.ORG) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:59:20 -0500 (EST) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" X-X-Sender: winter@sasami.jurai.net To: Chris Doherty In-Reply-To: <20031118192502.GD17016@zot.electricrain.com> Message-ID: <20031119075757.B14655@sasami.jurai.net> References: <1069178129.218.12.camel@.sbtnvt.adelphia.net> <20031118192502.GD17016@zot.electricrain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and sound X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:59:23 -0000 On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Chris Doherty wrote: > one thing to be aware of is that pcm and APM do not play nice together: > if you suspend the machine, sound will be broken until the next reboot. > I doubt it's biting you now, of course. I ran into this in -CURRENT and fixed it so its no longer the case there. If you apply the change to -STABLE and test it I'll commit it there too. -- 10 40 80 C0 00 FF FF FF FF C0 00 00 00 00 10 AA AA 03 00 00 00 08 00 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 19 06:57:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EBD516A4CE for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:57:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mxsf15.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf15.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.215]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC64F43F85 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:57:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pb1170@charter.net) Received: from 10.133.164.222 (c66.190.98.214.ts46v-01.rckwll.tx.charter.com [66.190.98.214])hAJEspc3025394 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:54:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from pb1170@charter.net) From: Patrick Burnett To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Organization: Message-Id: <1069253560.9193.26.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2-3mdk Date: 19 Nov 2003 08:52:40 -0600 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: ThinkPad 560 support X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:57:22 -0000 Hi Gang, I have an original IBM TP 560...not 560E or 560X...just plain jane 560. 2640-20U...72mb RAM...2.1gb HDD...P133 CPU. Just a basic little machine. All I'd like to do is get the thing running to where I can take it downstairs and surf and stuff using my wireless card...nothing fancy at all. I've been able to get the OS (4.9R) installed via floppy image and FTP install...it initialized the PCMCIA controller and found my Orinoco Gold card so wireless is not an issue. The main issue is trying to get X loaded, configured, and running. I've tried loading XFree86 3.3.6 and 4.3.0 both and haven't had any luck as of yet. The xf86config that has come closest to producing any meaningful result has consisted of selecting the Trident Cyber9385 driver and using Hsync 25-79 and Vsync 20-76 for the monitor. If anyone has any insight or any good reference material then I'd be most appreciative. Thanks to all, Pat From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 19 08:09:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6A0616A4CF for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:09:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [66.92.160.223]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7B8C43FB1 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:09:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mdodd@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [66.92.160.223]) by sasami.jurai.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAJG9MFW061738; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:09:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mdodd@FreeBSD.ORG) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:09:22 -0500 (EST) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" X-X-Sender: winter@sasami.jurai.net To: Patrick Burnett In-Reply-To: <1069253560.9193.26.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <20031119110815.D14655@sasami.jurai.net> References: <1069253560.9193.26.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ThinkPad 560 support X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:09:25 -0000 On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Patrick Burnett wrote: > If anyone has any insight or any good reference material then I'd be > most appreciative. I'll dig out my old config file this evening. I recall having to run an old XServer though. You can use the newest X11 libs with the old server without any problems. -- 10 40 80 C0 00 FF FF FF FF C0 00 00 00 00 10 AA AA 03 00 00 00 08 00 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 19 08:57:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A952B16A4CE for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:57:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from electricrain.com (electricrain.com [64.71.143.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C45D43FDD for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:57:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fuzzy@electricrain.com) Received: (qmail 20539 invoked by uid 540); 19 Nov 2003 16:57:19 -0000 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:57:19 -0800 From: Chris Doherty To: "Matthew N. Dodd" Message-ID: <20031119165719.GI17016@zot.electricrain.com> References: <1069178129.218.12.camel@.sbtnvt.adelphia.net> <20031118192502.GD17016@zot.electricrain.com> <20031119075757.B14655@sasami.jurai.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031119075757.B14655@sasami.jurai.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: XEmacs X-Koan: mu. X-Message-Flag: This message contains absolutely no malicious code. Organization: The Inside Foundation cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and sound X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: chris-freebsd@randomcamel.net List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:57:23 -0000 On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 07:59:20AM -0500, Matthew N. Dodd said: > On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Chris Doherty wrote: > > one thing to be aware of is that pcm and APM do not play nice together: > > if you suspend the machine, sound will be broken until the next reboot. > > I doubt it's biting you now, of course. > > I ran into this in -CURRENT and fixed it so its no longer the case there. > If you apply the change to -STABLE and test it I'll commit it there too. if you let me know what files were changed I'll try and take a look at it, but when I brought it up on the list a year or two ago, I thought Warner Losh more or less said it would be fixed in -CURRENT and miserable to impossible to fix in -STABLE. unfortunately the closest thing I can find is this: http://redirx.com/?92i . Chris ------------------------------- Chris Doherty chris [at] randomcamel.net "I think," said Christopher Robin, "that we ought to eat all our provisions now, so we won't have so much to carry." -- A. A. Milne ------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 19 10:39:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFEF816A4CE for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:39:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from dopey.dopey.hopto.org (host140.dsl1.blackfoot.net [12.32.44.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE8C43FEC for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:39:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@milneweb.com) Received: from dopey.hopto.org (localhost.dopey.hopto.org [127.0.0.1]) by dopey.dopey.hopto.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5BB6113 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:50:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from 192.168.2.211 (SquirrelMail authenticated user pete) by dopey.hopto.org with HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:50:48 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <2491.192.168.2.211.1069267848.squirrel@dopey.hopto.org> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:50:48 -0700 (MST) From: "Peter Milne" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: sony pcg-z505lsk pcmcia dvd rom X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:39:15 -0000 I am running 5.1 -RELEASE. Would love to get the dvd drive to work. I get the following and have tried with/without acpi enabled. $ dmesg | grep da0 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: 1.000MB/s transfers da0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ CAPACITY. CDB: 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): NOT READY asc:3a,0 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Medium not present (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Unretryable error Opened disk da0 -> 6 Any hints as to what can be done with this. I have tried a couple cd's in the drive as well. I am mounting as #mount /dev/da0 /mnt Thank you, -- ~~~Pete~~~ http://milneweb.com http://nomorevirus.com From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 03:47:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B9616A4CE for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 03:47:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from bsd.ultra-secure.de (bsd.ultra-secure.de [62.146.20.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF1143FDF for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 03:47:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rainer@ultra-secure.de) Received: (qmail 92123 invoked by uid 80); 20 Nov 2003 11:47:06 -0000 Received: from 217.233.101.84 (SquirrelMail authenticated user rainer@ultra-secure.de) by www.ultra-secure.de with HTTP; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:47:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <33206.217.233.101.84.1069328826.squirrel@www.ultra-secure.de> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:47:06 +0100 (CET) From: "Rainer Duffner" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: FreeBSD 5 and Netgear WG511 cardbus card ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:47:10 -0000 Hi, I got a Netgear WG511 pc-card wireless NIC. I was under the presumption that it would use an ath(4)-driver compatible chipset... Obviously, I was wrong: it's a newer Prism chipset. http://www.prism54.org/ Some kind of driver seems to exist for Linux. Has anybody got an news on the FreeBSD status for this hardware ? Thanks. Rainer -- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 05:49:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6445F16A4CE for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 05:49:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [66.92.160.223]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A77344005 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 05:49:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mdodd@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [66.92.160.223]) by sasami.jurai.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAKDnhFW094557; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:49:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mdodd@FreeBSD.ORG) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:49:43 -0500 (EST) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" X-X-Sender: winter@sasami.jurai.net To: Patrick Burnett In-Reply-To: <1069253560.9193.26.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <20031120084750.D14655@sasami.jurai.net> References: <1069253560.9193.26.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ThinkPad 560 support X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:49:45 -0000 On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Patrick Burnett wrote: > If anyone has any insight or any good reference material then I'd be > most appreciative. You'll want the XF86_SVGA binary from XFree86 3.3.6 or so. ftp://ftp.jurai.net/users/winter/XF86Config.TP560 -- 10 40 80 C0 00 FF FF FF FF C0 00 00 00 00 10 AA AA 03 00 00 00 08 00 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 07:00:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6221A16A50D for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 07:00:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1753E43F75 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 07:00:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AMqIB-0005uc-00 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:00:23 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from sea.gmane.org ([80.91.224.252]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AMqAb-0005ms-00 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:52:33 +0100 Received: from news by sea.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AMqAb-0007sw-00 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:52:33 +0100 From: Jesse Guardiani Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:52:32 -0500 Organization: WingNET Lines: 62 Message-ID: References: <20031118214036.GF89189@saboteur.dek.spc.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.2 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Re: usb v1.1 external 2.0" hard disk problems with FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:00:25 -0000 Jesse Guardiani wrote: > Bruce M Simpson wrote: > >> On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 03:59:46PM -0500, Jesse Guardiani wrote: >>> I'm running FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE. I just bought a generic >>> USB 1.1/2.0/firewire external drive enclosure for my 32gb >>> Travelstar 12.5mm hard drive. >> >> I began hacking a uata (USB->ATA) bridge driver with sos's help today. >> >> It might help you. > > I seriously doubt it. :) I don't mind C coding a bit, but I'm afraid > I don't know where to start here. > > Can anyone walk me through a low level troubleshooting process? Do I > have to have CAMDEBUG in my kernel? (not a problem if I DO, but I don't > right now) > > I'd personally like to know why the /dev/da0sN device isn't being created. > I think identifying the reason for it not being created > > >> Some of the cheaper enclosures use USB->ATA bridge >> chips which aren't handled by the standard umass driver. > > Might be the case here. Windows XP detects it as a "USB to ATAPI" bridge > though. The Coolmax Gemini enclosure (the one that works with FreeBSD) > is detected by Windows XP as a genuine "USB to IDE" device. > > >> Before anyone asks, these are evil, and don't talk SCSI/UFI/etc, they >> talk ATA task file register over USB, so branching off ata is more >> appropriate; I should be able to leverage most of the existing ATAng >> code base for this. > > Well, I'd be happy to help you test if we can somehow confirm that my > device is indeed one of these ugly USB->ATA devices. I'm not 100% > convinced though. Take a look at these two posts that have exactly the > same dmesg: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2003-August/008504.html > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hardware/2003-July/000393.html > > The last fellow shows that his drive works perfectly under Linux with SCSI > emulation. > Well, what does this list think? Should I ask this question on -CURRENT? Should I contact the umass driver maintainer directly? Should I file a PR? What is the proper course of action? -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 07:25:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D142616A4CE for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 07:25:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from exchange.wan.no (exchange.wan.no [80.86.128.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F44C43FBF for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 07:25:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sten.daniel.sorsdal@wan.no) Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:25:52 +0100 Message-ID: <0AF1BBDF1218F14E9B4CCE414744E70F07DF77@exchange.wanglobal.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: BSD support? thread-index: AcOtdyepCuGD06mAQRKzNwr4U60dlQB+MJsw From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sten_Daniel_S=F8rsdal?= To: "Timothy Opie" , Subject: RE: BSD support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:25:55 -0000 >=20 > Hi all, >=20 > I am patiently saving money to purchase a laptop, hopefully=20 > by the end of this year. I would like to know if there are=20 > any laptop manufacturers that specificially support BSD, and=20 > by supporting they choose specific default hardware=20 > configurations that will give the least problems on BSD. >=20 > I did a BSD-Google search for laptop and notebook, and=20 > noticed that Dell came up more than any other company. I have=20 > been contemplating getting the Dell Inspiron 5150. >=20 > Does anyone have any comments on this model, or can anyone=20 > recommend a more BSD friendly laptop? >=20 > Cheers, > Tim >=20 >=20 Personally i own a Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo M (1ghz celery) and i run = 5-CURRENT. The only problems i've had with it is that it requires ACPI to boot=20 (some weird non existing flash blocks the kernel in endless timeout = loop). The only things i've had troubles with is; ACPI (lidclosing and standby breaks - everything else seems to work). Havent had the chance to fix the modem drivers (not recognized, i only = got mobile phone). Everything else works very well and i cant complain about the = performance. I recommend Fujitsu-Siemens, they have yet to disappoint me. (all my = coworkers are also happy). // Sten From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 11:43:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1329016A4CE for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:43:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AB32E43F85 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:43:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shamanix@gmx.de) Received: (qmail 7047 invoked by uid 65534); 20 Nov 2003 19:43:23 -0000 Received: from cdm-208-180-211-217.gtwn.cox-internet.com (EHLO [192.168.254.243]) (208.180.211.217) by mail.gmx.net (mp026) with SMTP; 20 Nov 2003 20:43:23 +0100 X-Authenticated: #3274503 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:43:18 -0600 From: "Tommy Heaney" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20031120194324.AB32E43F85@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: Dell Latitude C600 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:43:26 -0000 First off, hello everyone, this is my first post to the list. I am relatively new to *nix, have made a few installations but haven't gotten much further then the basics. My question is concerning a FreeBSD 5.0 RC2 (need to update) installation on my Dell Latitude C600. I am wondering what kind of configurations I need to make in order to be able to put the laptop to sleep. In Windows, I could press the power button and the machine would sleep. Another problem has been when I close the display and open it back up, the machine appears to still be on but the screen never comes back. My next question is, what kind of power management utilities are available? I use Fluxbox window manager (and sometimes KDE). I'd like to be able to see how much battery power is left. Hopefully someone with the same configuration (C600) can give me some help. Thanks, -Tommy From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 12:10:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03C716A4CE for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:10:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mpool.solaris.ru (mpool.solaris.ru [194.85.25.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E59743FE5 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:10:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kirill@mpool.solaris.ru) Received: from mpool.solaris.ru (localhost.solaris.ru [127.0.0.1]) by mpool.solaris.ru (8.12.3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAKKAAng080203 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:10:10 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from kirill@mpool.solaris.ru) Received: (from kirill@localhost) by mpool.solaris.ru (8.12.3/8.12.6/Submit) id hAKKAAhv080201 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:10:10 +0300 (MSK) Resent-From: kirill@solaris.ru Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:10:10 +0300 Resent-Message-ID: <20031120201010.GA79725@solaris.ru> Resent-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:09:01 +0300 From: Kirill Bezzubets To: Tommy Heaney Message-ID: <20031120200901.GB98313@solaris.ru> References: <20031120194324.AB32E43F85@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031120194324.AB32E43F85@mx1.FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Subject: Re: Dell Latitude C600 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:10:16 -0000 On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 01:43:18PM -0600, Tommy Heaney wrote: > First off, hello everyone, this is my first post to the list. I am > relatively new to *nix, have made a few installations but haven't gotten > much further then the basics. > > My question is concerning a FreeBSD 5.0 RC2 (need to update) installation on > my Dell Latitude C600. I am wondering what kind of configurations I need to > make in order to be able to put the laptop to sleep. Actually, I've never tried it on C600 but on C500 it worked well, the same as for CP/CPi... first of all, download this: http://www.kirill.spb.ru/DSDT.aml If that won't help try to find better DSDT at http://acpi.sourceforge.net/dsdt/index.php and put it into /boot, then add following to /boot/loader.conf acpi_dsdt_load="YES" # DSDT Overriding acpi_dsdt_type="acpi_dsdt" # Don't change this acpi_dsdt_name="/boot/DSDT.aml" Of course, you should load "acpi.ko" at startup. > In Windows, I could > press the power button and the machine would sleep. Power button? Not sleep button? > Another problem has > been when I close the display and open it back up, the machine appears to > still be on but the screen never comes back. Try the latest BIOS update available from Dell. It's their bug since they implemented ACPI: BIOS tries to initialise external monitor even there's none of. Try pressing + (CRT/LCD) and everything should be OK. Better way is yet to upgrade your BIOS to latest available. > My next question is, what kind > of power management utilities are available? In console you can use "apm -l" (ACPI provides some backward compatibility with APM) > I use Fluxbox window manager > (and sometimes KDE). I'd like to be able to see how much battery power is > left. Hopefully someone with the same configuration (C600) can give me some > help. > I prefer Enlightenment, so I can't say for sure, but most utilities using APM interface should work. -- BR, Kirill Bezzubets CASE-RIPE CASE-RIPN CTO / Head Of N.O.C. mailto:kirill@solaris.ru Solaris ISP & Telecommunications Co. Ltd http://www.solaris.ru From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 17:17:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C359916A4CE for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:17:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com [24.94.166.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F71B43FCB for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:17:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hamilton@pobox.com) Received: from woodstock.nethamilton.net (CPE-65-26-246-5.wi.rr.com [65.26.246.5])hAL1HshL006952 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:17:54 -0600 (CST) Received: by woodstock.nethamilton.net (Postfix, from userid 500) id C6C384750; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:17:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:17:53 -0600 From: Jon Hamilton To: mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20031121011753.GA87224@woodstock.nethamilton.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Odd sound problem - Pavillion ze4500 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 01:17:56 -0000 I've got a recently acquired HP Pavillion ze4540 which is so far working quite well, but with a couple of lingering issues. Most interesting to me is that sound only partially works. If I compile in pcm, the sound hardware gets detected and is used - but only for "sound using" applications like xmms and such. The "system beep" is nowhere to be heard (beep from xterm, or even the pccard beep when the hardware is inserted). Without the pcm driver loaded, the system beep functions normally, but obviously I don't have the benefit of playing dvd's, mp3's, etc. The behavior is the same across both -STABLE and -CURRENT, and with or without PNPBIOS in -stable. Here's a snippet from a verbose boot with pcm compiled in (the entire dmesg is available at http://www.nethamilton.net/bootv.html : pcm0: port 0x1000-0x10ff irq 5 at device 6.0 on pci0 pcm0: pcm0: Codec features reserved, headphone, 18 bit DAC, 18 bit ADC, 5 bit master volume, no 3D Stereo Enhancement pcm0: Primary codec extended features variable rate PCM, AMAP pcm0: sndbuf_setmap d8d4000, 1000; 0xc1060000 -> d8d4000 pcm0: sndbuf_setmap d8d7000, 1000; 0xc1063000 -> d8d7000 pcm0: sndbuf_setmap d8f9000, 1000; 0xc1065000 -> d8f9000 pcm0: sndbuf_setmap d8dc000, 1000; 0xc1068000 -> d8dc000 pcm0: sndbuf_setmap d8be000, 1000; 0xc106a000 -> d8be000 I tried the OSS sound module and it works fine in all regards, so I've got that as a fallback if it comes to that. Here's ``cat /dev/sndstat'' with the OSS module loaded: OSS/FreeBSD 3.9.8b (C) 4Front Technologies 1996-2003 License serial number: E00000008 This Open Sound System copy is licensed for limited evaluation use only. You can order the permanent OSS license using the 'Order permanent OSS license' function of soundconf command. Alternatively use our ordering page at http://www.opensound.com/order.html. License will expire after: 12/2003 Drivers: ALL *** Activity time of this evaluation version is limited *** Kernel: FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE #11: Wed Nov 19 18:13:10 CST 2003 hamilton@maria:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SWINE Card config: Trident 4DWave MIDI port Trident 4DWave at 0x1000 irq 5 Audio devices: 0: ALI M5451 (DUPLEX) 1: ALI M5451 (playback only) 2: ALI M5451 (playback only) 3: ALI M5451 (playback only) 4: ALI M5451 (playback only) 5: ALI M5451 (playback only) 6: ALI M5451 (playback only) 7: ALI M5451 (playback only) Synth devices: Midi devices: Timers: 0: System clock Mixers: 0: ALI M5451 (CXT29/0x43585429) and the same with pcm: FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Installed devices: pcm0: at io 0x1000 irq 5 (4p/1r/0v channels duplex) My kernel config file is at http://www.nethamilton.net/swine/SWINE.html I appreciate any suggestions or pointers. -- Jon Hamilton hamilton@pobox.com From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 21:44:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E96C516A4CE for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:44:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from cardinal.mail.pas.earthlink.net (cardinal.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 528B443F3F for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:44:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlippert362@earthlink.net) Received: from scooter.psp.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.78.185]) by cardinal.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AN45O-0004J7-00 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:44:06 -0800 Message-ID: <21506549.1069393451981.JavaMail.root@scooter.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:44:11 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: Thomas Lippert To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Earthlink Zoo Mail 1.0 Subject: Dumping a panic during boot kernel over firewire X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Thomas Lippert List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:44:15 -0000 Hi all, What is the procedure for dumping a kernel over firewire. Maybe i am being dense, but i can't find the "kern.firewire.fwmem_node=[node_id]" in sysctl. Trying to set it gives me a " sysctl: unknown oid 'kern.firewire.fwmem_node' " message. output of uname -a is "FreeBSD ovid.dhcppc5 4.9-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE #5: Wed Nov 19 19:12:21 PST 2003 clippert@ovid.dhcppc5:/usr/src/sys/compile/OVID i386" I am hoping to someday figure out or at least provide the output for why it is that this laptop crashes early in boot on my laptop. Searching the mail list archives and googling have turned up no leads other than to say that it is possible. Thanks in advance, -Thomas From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 21 07:52:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5609516A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:52:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.kukulies.org (www.kukulies.org [213.146.112.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB1B243FBF for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:52:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kuku@www.kukulies.org) Received: from www.kukulies.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.kukulies.org (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hALFqSoR029910 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:52:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from kuku@www.kukulies.org) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by www.kukulies.org (8.12.10/8.12.6/Submit) id hALFqNeh029909 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:52:23 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:52:23 +0100 (CET) From: "C. Kukulies" Message-Id: <200311211552.hALFqNeh029909@www.kukulies.org> To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: nvidia - again X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:52:33 -0000 I cvsuped a -current from Nov 17th, built world and kernel but nvidia.ko was defunct after that. The famous black screen lock and reboot. I tried to compile the port using WITH_FREEBSD_AGP="YES" to no avail. Then I'm getting a message the X cannot find glx and nvidia drivers. To I have to do a portsupgrade? Is there a new nvidia driver available? -- Chris (lost without X ) Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku_at_physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 21 11:39:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C12F16A4CE; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:39:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0CC43FDD; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:39:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paulbeard@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id hALJd6Sc013211; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:39:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.8] (12-231-115-57.client.attbi.com [12.231.115.57]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin08/MantshX 3.0) with ESMTP id hALJd5xO000270; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:39:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20031121094707.G89525@gandalf.eilio.com> References: <20031121094707.G89525@gandalf.eilio.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <5D38740A-1C5A-11D8-A4CF-000A95BBCCF8@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: paul beard Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:39:04 -0800 To: Philip Hallstrom X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) cc: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Motherboard survey... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:39:13 -0000 On Nov 21, 2003, at 9:53 AM, Philip Hallstrom wrote: > Hi all - > > I'm wanting to build my own computer to run FreeBSD, but don't > have the slightest idea (well, maybe the slightest :) what motherboard > to > buy. I'd like one that has built-in lan/audio that works in FreeBSD, > but > in my searching efforts I've turned up very little. > > I know the handbook lists chip sets and whatnot, but trying to figure > out > what chip set is on a given board isn't always easy -- at least not > for me. > > So... I wrote a survey app that I'm hoping lots of you will fill out. > It > let's you pick the brand/model of motherboard, then indicate what > onboard > features work (lan, audio, video, usb, firewire, ide, sata, scsi, raid, > smp), lets you provide some overall "satisfaction" ratings, and then > provide any additional comments. > > As a side effect you can input your laptop information which seems to > be a > frequently asked source of questions. > > If I get enough responses I'd like to expand this to include other > things > such as DVD players, USB peripherals, etc. that have varying levels of > support in FreeBSD. Perhaps turn it into a companion to the > HARDWARE.TXT > document... > > Anyway.. here it is: > > http://www.eilio.com/freebsd-motherboards/ > This is very nice, and I think it will be helpful to a lot of people who want to move to FreeBSD. I especially like the idea of laptop users being able to contribute. This is a topic that has come up many times on the mobile@ list and I think a structured form where components can be detailed (works/broken) is a great idea. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 21 13:50:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B5A716A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:50:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04DA643FE3 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:50:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ANJAt-0003Sb-00 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:50:47 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from sea.gmane.org ([80.91.224.252]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ANJAq-0003ST-00 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:50:44 +0100 Received: from news by sea.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ANJAq-0001xC-00 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:50:44 +0100 From: Jesse Guardiani Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:50:42 -0500 Organization: WingNET Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <20031121094707.G89525@gandalf.eilio.com> <5D38740A-1C5A-11D8-A4CF-000A95BBCCF8__12654.3489205234$1069443645@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.2 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Re: FreeBSD Motherboard survey... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:50:51 -0000 paul beard wrote: > > On Nov 21, 2003, at 9:53 AM, Philip Hallstrom wrote: [...] >> http://www.eilio.com/freebsd-motherboards/ >> > > This is very nice, and I think it will be helpful to a lot of people > who want to move to FreeBSD. I especially like the idea of laptop users > being able to contribute. This is a topic that has come up many times > on the mobile@ list and I think a structured form where components can > be detailed (works/broken) is a great idea. Yeah, slick format. I've added my IBM Thinkpad A30p to the list for kicks. -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 21 15:13:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7512B16A4CE; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:13:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from gandalf.eilio.com (gandalf.eilio.com [216.211.130.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B63743FF3; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:13:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from philip@eilio.com) X-Sender-IP: 216.211.130.9 Received: from gandalf.eilio.com (gandalf.eilio.com [216.211.130.9]) by gandalf.eilio.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hALNDH1Z095992; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:13:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from philip@eilio.com) Received: from localhost (philip@localhost)hALNDHAq095989; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:13:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from philip@eilio.com) X-Authentication-Warning: gandalf.eilio.com: philip owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:13:17 -0800 (PST) From: Philip Hallstrom To: paul beard In-Reply-To: <5D38740A-1C5A-11D8-A4CF-000A95BBCCF8@mac.com> Message-ID: <20031121151128.D95740@gandalf.eilio.com> References: <20031121094707.G89525@gandalf.eilio.com> <5D38740A-1C5A-11D8-A4CF-000A95BBCCF8@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Motherboard survey... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:13:18 -0000 > On Nov 21, 2003, at 9:53 AM, Philip Hallstrom wrote: > > > Hi all - > > > > So... I wrote a survey app that I'm hoping lots of you will fill out. > > It let's you pick the brand/model of motherboard, then indicate what > > onboard features work (lan, audio, video, usb, firewire, ide, sata, > > scsi, raid, smp), lets you provide some overall "satisfaction" > > ratings, and then provide any additional comments. > > > > As a side effect you can input your laptop information which seems to > > be a frequently asked source of questions. > > > > If I get enough responses I'd like to expand this to include other > > things such as DVD players, USB peripherals, etc. that have varying > > levels of support in FreeBSD. Perhaps turn it into a companion to the > > HARDWARE.TXT document... > > > > Anyway.. here it is: > > > > http://www.eilio.com/freebsd-motherboards/ > > > > This is very nice, and I think it will be helpful to a lot of people > who want to move to FreeBSD. I especially like the idea of laptop users > being able to contribute. This is a topic that has come up many times > on the mobile@ list and I think a structured form where components can > be detailed (works/broken) is a great idea. I'm glad you like it. And thanks for cc'ing the mobile group. Completely spaced on that. If any of you have any comments on other features you'd like to see (infrared just came to mind) please by all means send me an email with your thoughts. I've got pretty limited hardware and haven't used FreeBSD on a laptop ever so might be missing things. I'd love for this to take off and become a repository of sorts... -philip From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 21 16:50:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5654A16A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:50:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from ran.psg.com (ip166.usw253.dsl-acs2.sea.iinet.com [209.20.253.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B9443F93 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:50:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=ran.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1ANLyM-0005vC-Ei; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:50:02 -0800 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:50:01 -0800 To: Lars References: <3FAA2761.8090808@ecad.org> <200311060618.59528.rodperson@comcast.net> <3FAA3663.5000304@ecad.org> <20031106123347.GA17013@gmx.at> Message-Id: cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: thinkpad R40 freebsd preperation questions... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 00:50:10 -0000 > I also have an IBM TP R40. i just got my T40p > I started the computer and let WinXP startup, convert it's partition > to NTFS and install itself. yup > Then I resized the partition with Partition Magic. so. what if i want a hibernate partition? any tricks? i had to leave room for it on my dell. randy From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 21 16:58:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9726316A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:58:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [130.64.1.215]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E82043F75 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:58:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 1ANM6g-0000D3-00 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:58:38 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:58:38 -0500 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20031122005838.GA28176@pir.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <3FAA2761.8090808@ecad.org> <200311060618.59528.rodperson@comcast.net> <3FAA3663.5000304@ecad.org> <20031106123347.GA17013@gmx.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Subject: Re: thinkpad R40 freebsd preperation questions... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 00:58:39 -0000 Randy Bush probably said: > so. what if i want a hibernate partition? any tricks? i had to leave > room for it on my dell. Probably the same thing. I've posted the steps I went through on my X30 a couple of times already; <20030105090529.GJ17859@pir.net> You can use IBM's standalone floppy version of phdisk.exe to create the suspend to disk partition. P. -- pir From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 22 03:50:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFA8616A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 03:50:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhub02.unibe.ch (mailhub02-skge0.unibe.ch [130.92.9.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D7D443FD7 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 03:50:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roth@lara.unibe.ch) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhub02.unibe.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02D05764C5; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:50:46 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailhub02.unibe.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailhub02 [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with LMTP id 21453-01-74; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:50:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from asterix.unibe.ch (asterix.unibe.ch [130.92.64.4]) by mailhub02.unibe.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F83764C1; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:50:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from lara.unibe.ch (lara [130.92.64.90]) by asterix.unibe.ch (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id hAMBoj507421; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:50:45 +0100 (MET) Received: (from roth@localhost) by lara.unibe.ch (8.12.9+Sun/8.12.9/Submit) id hAMBoi0Y026961; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:50:44 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:50:43 +0100 From: Tobias Roth To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20031122115043.GA26944@lara.unibe.ch> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, Randy Bush References: <3FAA2761.8090808@ecad.org> <200311060618.59528.rodperson@comcast.net> <3FAA3663.5000304@ecad.org> <20031106123347.GA17013@gmx.at> <20031122005838.GA28176@pir.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031122005838.GA28176@pir.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: SunOS lara 5.9 Generic_112233-04 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-5_10 X-Virus-checked: by University of Berne Subject: Re: thinkpad R40 freebsd preperation questions... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:50:48 -0000 On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 07:58:38PM -0500, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > Randy Bush probably said: > > so. what if i want a hibernate partition? any tricks? i had to leave > > room for it on my dell. > > Probably the same thing. I've posted the steps I went through on my X30 > a couple of times already; <20030105090529.GJ17859@pir.net> > > You can use IBM's standalone floppy version of phdisk.exe to create the > suspend to disk partition. if i remeber correctly, hibernation partitions will not work. instead you have to use that ibm floppy to create a hibernation file. it will be created on the first available FAT partition. so you might want to think twice before converting the Win XP partition to NTFS. if you do that, you will need to make an ordinary FAT partition and then create the hibernation file therein. greets, t. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 22 10:08:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC28616A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:08:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [130.64.1.215]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA73343FE0 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:08:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 1ANcB5-0007WL-00 ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 13:08:15 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 13:08:15 -0500 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20031122180815.GB28508@pir.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, Randy Bush References: <3FAA2761.8090808@ecad.org> <200311060618.59528.rodperson@comcast.net> <3FAA3663.5000304@ecad.org> <20031106123347.GA17013@gmx.at> <20031122005838.GA28176@pir.net> <20031122115043.GA26944@lara.unibe.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031122115043.GA26944@lara.unibe.ch> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Subject: Re: thinkpad R40 freebsd preperation questions... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:08:16 -0000 Tobias Roth probably said: > if i remeber correctly, hibernation partitions will not > work. Not true. > instead you have to use that ibm floppy to create a hibernation > file. it will be created on the first available FAT partition. so > you might want to think twice before converting the Win XP partition > to NTFS. if you do that, you will need to make an ordinary FAT > partition and then create the hibernation file therein. Files may also work, if you have a FAT partition, but the suspend to disk partition certainly does work (even if you have a FAT partition) and the XP installation on my X30 automatically converts itself to NTFS (the recovery CD install finishes the install and then converts to NTFS) so on this particular machine I didn't have the choice. I would assume that other modern IBMs runing XP are the same. I have an X30 with an NTFS partition and a suspend to disk partition. Both work just fine. P. -- pir From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 22 11:17:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7ED116A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:17:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [130.64.1.215]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFF4D43FE9 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:17:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 1ANdFm-0000CU-00 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:17:10 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:17:10 -0500 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20031122191709.GD28508@pir.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <3FAA2761.8090808@ecad.org> <200311060618.59528.rodperson@comcast.net> <3FAA3663.5000304@ecad.org> <20031106123347.GA17013@gmx.at> <20031122005838.GA28176@pir.net> <20031122115043.GA26944@lara.unibe.ch> <20031122180815.GB28508@pir.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Subject: Re: thinkpad R40 freebsd preperation questions... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:17:12 -0000 Randy Bush probably said: > brand new t40p with 60gb drive had only one partition, and it was > 54gp. i figure recovery stuff etc. is hidden above the 54g, but > don't really know (plan to beg for the cdroms on monday). Yes, there is a hidden partition above that for windows recovery. Since I have the CDs and I do backups I just nuked it. > but there was no visible (with freebsd fdisk or partition magic) > hibernate partition. XP will use a file in the NTFS partition to suspend to disk (not via the BIOS). FreeBSD cannot, so if you want FreeBSD to suspend to disk you need something else for it to suspend to - I use a suspend to disk partition. P. -- pir From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 22 12:30:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0883216A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:30:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B4A7C43FB1 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:30:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shamanix@gmx.de) Received: (qmail 19322 invoked by uid 65534); 22 Nov 2003 20:30:31 -0000 Received: from cdm-208-180-211-217.gtwn.cox-internet.com (EHLO [192.168.254.243]) (208.180.211.217) by mail.gmx.net (mp009) with SMTP; 22 Nov 2003 21:30:31 +0100 X-Authenticated: #3274503 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:30:28 -0600 From: "Tommy Heaney" To: mobile@freebsd.org Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20031122203032.B4A7C43FB1@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: SPAM!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:30:34 -0000 I noticed that the day I joined this list that I began recieiving about 10 virus spam messages, which I have never gotten before. I am pretty sure it is as a result of joining the mailing list, so whatever people need to do to make sure they aren't being used to mass mail viruses or that the list isn't vulnerable to leaking email addresses, please do. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 22 13:12:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C47AA16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 13:12:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.gmx.net (imap.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6125543FAF for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 13:12:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andreas.kohn@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 3569 invoked by uid 65534); 22 Nov 2003 21:12:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (EHLO [172.16.32.190]) (212.204.32.190) by mail.gmx.net (mp003) with SMTP; 22 Nov 2003 22:12:08 +0100 X-Authenticated: #2431876 From: Andreas Kohn To: Tommy Heaney In-Reply-To: <20031122203032.B4A7C43FB1@mx1.FreeBSD.org> References: <20031122203032.B4A7C43FB1@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-7ELvUKJg1/NP6/+VsclI" Message-Id: <1069535527.722.15.camel@klamath> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:12:07 +0100 cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SPAM!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:12:10 -0000 --=-7ELvUKJg1/NP6/+VsclI Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 2003-11-22 at 21:30, Tommy Heaney wrote: > I noticed that the day I joined this list that I began recieiving about 1= 0 > virus spam messages, which I have never gotten before. I am pretty sure= it > is as a result of joining the mailing list, so whatever people need to do= to > make sure they aren't being used to mass mail viruses or that the list is= n't > vulnerable to leaking email addresses, please do. Hi, the archives of this list are available through numerous websites. It should not be surprising that some email address gathering bot found your address via those pages.=20 Regards, --=20 Andreas Kohn --=-7ELvUKJg1/NP6/+VsclI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA/v9EnYucd7Ow1ygwRAmLMAJ9aJ1htY9+xeTQ8pd+opFy9sv3DigCdFXLF bOuKhbfMyBs34QuPrfjRTME= =UJdF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-7ELvUKJg1/NP6/+VsclI-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 22 15:56:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 871E116A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:56:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from barrichello.cs.ucr.edu (barrichello.cs.ucr.edu [138.23.169.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC9843FE3 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:56:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trep@cs.ucr.edu) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by barrichello.cs.ucr.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84FE8909D348 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:56:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from angeldust.chaos (wg02.ucr.edu [138.23.2.197]) by barrichello.cs.ucr.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75995909D345 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:56:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from angeldust.chaos (localhost.chaos [127.0.0.1]) by angeldust.chaos (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAMNuC6B005151 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:56:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trep@cs.ucr.edu) Received: (from nil@localhost) by angeldust.chaos (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id hAMNuC8L005150 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:56:12 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: angeldust.chaos: nil set sender to trep@cs.ucr.edu using -f Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:56:12 -0800 From: Thomas Repantis To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20031122235612.GC4757@angeldust.chaos> References: <20031122203032.B4A7C43FB1@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <1069535527.722.15.camel@klamath> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="DIOMP1UsTsWJauNi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1069535527.722.15.camel@klamath> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Homepage: http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~trep X-Kallisti: 23 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-46.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE_2, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MUTT,X_AUTH_WARNING autolearn=ham version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Subject: Re: SPAM!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 23:56:38 -0000 --DIOMP1UsTsWJauNi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can't this archiving take place in a more intelligent manner? For example= =20 using "user host.org", instead of "user at host.org", "user[at]host.org" or= =20 (Goddess forbid!) user@host.org. I think it's embarrassing the fact that in the official archives one can se= e=20 the last of the forementioned options! If you think this is a reasonable idea, whom should we contact? The mailma= n=20 authors, the freebsd.org webmaster, someone else? Cheers,=20 Thomas On Sat, Nov 22, 2003 at 10:12:07PM +0100, Andreas Kohn wrote: > On Sat, 2003-11-22 at 21:30, Tommy Heaney wrote: > > I noticed that the day I joined this list that I began recieiving about= 10 > > virus spam messages, which I have never gotten before. I am pretty su= re it > > is as a result of joining the mailing list, so whatever people need to = do to > > make sure they aren't being used to mass mail viruses or that the list = isn't > > vulnerable to leaking email addresses, please do. >=20 > Hi, >=20 > the archives of this list are available through numerous websites. It > should not be surprising that some email address gathering bot found > your address via those pages.=20 >=20 > Regards, > --=20 > Andreas Kohn --=20 "One ought, every day at least, to hear a little song, read a good poem,=20 see a fine picture, and -if possible- speak a few reasonable words." =20 -- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe --DIOMP1UsTsWJauNi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/v/ect+QwXYyWj/oRAsmoAJ9ADsK7wiXZy5VWwk6QkV/faaGdqQCgio4x Mp6T3rCuXkhJo0aQdEPRSew= =lSU3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --DIOMP1UsTsWJauNi-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 22 16:29:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F0316A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:29:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E14B343F93 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:29:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andreas.kohn@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 21603 invoked by uid 65534); 23 Nov 2003 00:29:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (EHLO [172.16.32.190]) (212.204.32.190) by mail.gmx.net (mp025) with SMTP; 23 Nov 2003 01:29:14 +0100 X-Authenticated: #2431876 From: Andreas Kohn To: Thomas Repantis In-Reply-To: <20031122235612.GC4757@angeldust.chaos> References: <20031122203032.B4A7C43FB1@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <20031122235612.GC4757@angeldust.chaos> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-Ekyu35KDvg3plqAmi5+7" Message-Id: <1069547316.722.30.camel@klamath> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 01:28:36 +0100 cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SPAM!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 00:29:24 -0000 --=-Ekyu35KDvg3plqAmi5+7 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > On Sat, Nov 22, 2003 at 10:12:07PM +0100, Andreas Kohn wrote: > > On Sat, 2003-11-22 at 21:30, Tommy Heaney wrote: > > > I noticed that the day I joined this list that I began recieiving abo= ut 10 > > > virus spam messages, which I have never gotten before. I am pretty = sure it > > > is as a result of joining the mailing list, so whatever people need t= o do to > > > make sure they aren't being used to mass mail viruses or that the lis= t isn't > > > vulnerable to leaking email addresses, please do. > >=20 > > Hi, > >=20 > > the archives of this list are available through numerous websites. It > > should not be surprising that some email address gathering bot found > > your address via those pages.=20 > >=20 On Sun, 2003-11-23 at 00:56, Thomas Repantis wrote: > Can't this archiving take place in a more intelligent manner? For exampl= e=20 > using "user host.org", instead of "user at host.org", "user[at]host.org" = or=20 > (Goddess forbid!) user@host.org. What would that change? It would just be another form of saying "user@host.org" without saying "user@host.org".=20 >=20 > I think it's embarrassing the fact that in the official archives one can = see=20 > the last of the forementioned options! >=20 > If you think this is a reasonable idea, whom should we contact? The mail= man=20 > authors, the freebsd.org webmaster, someone else? >=20 > Cheers,=20 > Thomas >=20 >=20 If this really is such a problem, I would suggest mailing the mailman authors, and trying to get the FreeBSD.org's mailman updated afterwards. But I don't think that this would help stopping spam. More than one archive exists(which is good, because google finds answers better :) ). Personally I think using some sort of spam filters should work quite well. With only the filters of GMX FreeMail I am able to filter out most spam, with more customized filters it should be possible to have a largely spam-free mail experience. Regards, --=20 Andreas Kohn --=-Ekyu35KDvg3plqAmi5+7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA/v/80Yucd7Ow1ygwRAt5pAJ0WO2xKBPuo0PO5O88/i6MbkGpjQQCeKjef 7GMhf4tBbY96jgzSLXYMe50= =Oadb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-Ekyu35KDvg3plqAmi5+7-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 22 17:37:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3812816A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:37:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from barrichello.cs.ucr.edu (barrichello.cs.ucr.edu [138.23.169.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA60543FD7 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:37:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trep@cs.ucr.edu) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by barrichello.cs.ucr.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6366909D35E for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:37:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from angeldust.chaos (wg02.ucr.edu [138.23.2.197]) by barrichello.cs.ucr.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C948909D363 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:37:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from angeldust.chaos (localhost.chaos [127.0.0.1]) by angeldust.chaos (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAN1aq6B005786 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:36:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trep@cs.ucr.edu) Received: (from nil@localhost) by angeldust.chaos (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id hAN1aqrn005785 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:36:52 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: angeldust.chaos: nil set sender to trep@cs.ucr.edu using -f Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:36:52 -0800 From: Thomas Repantis To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20031123013652.GB5637@angeldust.chaos> References: <20031122203032.B4A7C43FB1@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <1069535527.722.15.camel@klamath> <20031122235612.GC4757@angeldust.chaos> <1069547316.722.30.camel@klamath> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Pd0ReVV5GZGQvF3a" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1069547316.722.30.camel@klamath> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Homepage: http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~trep X-Kallisti: 23 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-46.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE_2, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MUTT,X_AUTH_WARNING autolearn=ham version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Subject: Re: SPAM!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 01:37:23 -0000 --Pd0ReVV5GZGQvF3a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Nov 23, 2003 at 01:28:36AM +0100, Andreas Kohn wrote: > On Sun, 2003-11-23 at 00:56, Thomas Repantis wrote: > > Can't this archiving take place in a more intelligent manner? For exam= ple=20 > > using "user host.org", instead of "user at host.org", "user[at]host.org= "=20 > > or (Goddess forbid!) user@host.org. >=20 > What would that change? It would just be another form of saying > "user@host.org" without saying "user@host.org".=20 I cannot think of an easy way for a robot to detect "user host.org" or=20 "user host org", without harvesting many irrelevant things. On the other= =20 hand "user@host.org" is blatantly obvious, even for a robot. =20 > Personally I think using some sort of spam filters should work quite > well.=20 I use filtering myself, but this is fighting the problem at its very end. Thomas --=20 "One ought, every day at least, to hear a little song, read a good poem,=20 see a fine picture, and -if possible- speak a few reasonable words." =20 -- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe --Pd0ReVV5GZGQvF3a Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/wA80t+QwXYyWj/oRArTmAJ9+yYSFBIKxWTgsHYDzGkkgO+Hb1ACeIrNe lO4UY7i1Xz3eR/UXxRG3y0o= =+gJS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Pd0ReVV5GZGQvF3a-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 22 19:01:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5664916A4CE; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:01:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from rosebud.alerce.com (w092.z064001164.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.164.92]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0520143FD7; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:01:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hartzell@rosebud.alerce.com) Received: from rosebud.alerce.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rosebud.alerce.com (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAN31FA1002920; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:01:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hartzell@rosebud.alerce.com) Received: (from hartzell@localhost) by rosebud.alerce.com (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id hAN31FOC002917; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:01:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hartzell) From: George Hartzell MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16320.8955.485537.857428@rosebud.alerce.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:01:15 -0800 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailer: VM 7.14 under 21.4 (patch 14) "Reasonable Discussion" XEmacs Lucid Subject: Sony PCG-GRX570 laptop, panic on boot w/ 5.1R and -current X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: hartzell@kestrel.alerce.com List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 03:01:23 -0000 I've been trying to install something 5-ish on a Sony PCG-GRX570 laptop. I started off trying to boot off of the 5.1 release CD, normally, w/out acpi, and safe. Every option panic-ed, with essentially the same message (see below), although it followed a different driver depending on how it was booted. Then I installed 4.7 (since I had the CD), cvsup-ed my repository, and cvs up'ed /usr/src to the 5-current. I followed the section on moving from 4 to 5-current in UPDATING to build the world, etc.... I had to work around a bit of previously reported 4.7/5 weirdness in /usr/include, but it went w/out any trouble. When I reached the point where I was supposed to boot the new kernel in single user mode, the 5-current kernel paniced: miibus0: in fxp0 inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode cpuid = 0; apic id = 00 fault virtual address = 0x63696d20 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0659df3 stack pointer = 0x10:0xc0c217ac frame pointer = 0x10:0xc0c217cc code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 0 (swapper) kernel: type 12 trap, code=0 Stopped at ithread_add_handler+0x163: movl %ebx,0(%eax) db> I've seen several similar reports in the archives for late last summer. The general answer seemed to be that people were having hardware trouble. I don't think that is the case in my case, unless -current is doing something very strange, since the same machine runs well enough under 4.7 to buildworld and buildkernel, and the same hardware has been running Suse and Win2000. How can I help get this solved? g. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 22 19:50:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4733D16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:50:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mxsf28.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf28.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF3843FB1 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:50:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pb1170@charter.net) Received: from 10.133.164.222 (c66.190.98.214.ts46v-01.rckwll.tx.charter.com [66.190.98.214])hAN3k3m7010537 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:46:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from pb1170@charter.net) From: Patrick Burnett To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Organization: Message-Id: <1069559026.10538.3.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2-3mdk Date: 22 Nov 2003 21:43:46 -0600 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Dell Latitude C600 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 03:50:52 -0000 OK Gang, I think I'm about to take the plunge on a refurbed Latitude C600 and consequently load FBSD on it. I had one at my last job and loved it, but have never seen anything other than Redmond OS on it. I've read on some compatibility pages that it's a good little Linux and/or FBSD machine. Can anyone chip in his/her two cents and let me know if I'm making a good purchase or wasting my time? TIA, Pat From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 22 20:12:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9708316A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:12:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from sizone.org (mortar.sizone.org [65.126.154.242]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B73C443F85 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:12:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dgilbert@daveg.ca) Received: by sizone.org (Postfix, from userid 66) id C7DB03016B; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 04:12:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: by canoe.dclg.ca (Postfix, from userid 101) id AEF121D1F01; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 23:12:39 -0500 (EST) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16320.13239.539819.64945@canoe.dclg.ca> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 23:12:39 -0500 To: dell-d800@eicat.ca, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 14) "Reasonable Discussion" XEmacs Lucid Subject: Dell Inspirion 1100 display woes. X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 04:12:36 -0000 As I've posted before, the Inspirion 1100 from Dell only has 842k of memory available for the display ... effectively limiting the display to 8 bit colour. I've tried a number of things, including fetching the current development version of XFree86 to fix things. It would appear that the new version of X has some code that tries to fix things, but still fails. Recently I found a hack on the web ... that under linux aparently fixes things. I've put a copy of the code at: http://strike.dclg.ca/~dgilbert/845patch.tar.gz The code in question appears to try to patch a portion of BIOS in RAM such that things work. The instructions with this code implied that it had to be run as part of the bootup process each boot ... so it's obviously only interacting with the RAM image. Anyways... is there a way to do this in FreeBSD? Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Independent Contractor. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dave@daveg.ca | equal if and only if they | |http://daveg.ca | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================