From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 00:10:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D2D37B401; Sun, 8 Jun 2003 00:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [64.251.88.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB9AB43FBF; Sun, 8 Jun 2003 00:10:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4906EAE4A2; Sun, 8 Jun 2003 00:10:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20030608071001.4906EAE4A2@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 00:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2003-05-18 - 2003-06-07 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 07:10:05 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . These are the articles posted during this period: 21-May : Postfix - virtual domains (part II) A bit more detail on the options http://freebsddiary.org/postfix-virtual-domains.php?2 -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/ - practical examples FreshPorts - http://www.FreshPorts.org/ - the place for ports FreshSource - http://www.FreshSource.org/ - the place for source From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 01:23:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A23137B415 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2003 01:23:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gmx.net (ADSL166-146.advancedsl.com.ar [200.63.166.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C4FFA43FA3 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2003 01:23:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from emprende@gmx.net) From: "Amalia Lafuente" To: Sender: "Amalia Lafuente" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 05:25:02 -0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20030608082350.C4FFA43FA3@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: JVw X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 08:23:52 -0000 rJoF From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 05:14:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20AB737B401 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2003 05:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-send.myrealbox.com (smtp-send.myrealbox.com [192.108.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B7F43F93 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2003 05:14:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael.ireland@myrealbox.com) Received: from eufj3484@fj2gf3f.com michael.ireland@smtp-send.myrealbox.com [203.48.58.101]$ on Novell NetWare; Mon, 09 Jun 2003 05:14:30 -0700 From: "M. Ireland" To: Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 21:37:02 GMT X-Mailer: Vivian Mail [327.0209010] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <20030609121427.B7B7F43F93@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: Does this list do anything ?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 12:14:28 -0000 Greetings !! I have signed up for this, over a fortnight ago and all I get= every day is the same listing, as below : ----------------- >Send freebsd-newbies mailing list submissions to >=09freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >=09http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >=09freebsd-newbies-request@freebsd.org > >You can reach the person managing the list at >=09freebsd-newbies-owner@freebsd.org > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more= specific >than "Re: Contents of freebsd-newbies digest..." > Now, I am very much the newbie, so I was wondering, have I done= anything wrong in the signing up on this list ?? Thanks for any help in advance. M. Ireland. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 08:33:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A8237B408 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2003 08:33:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-send.myrealbox.com (smtp-send.myrealbox.com [192.108.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1170743F75 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2003 08:33:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mimerki@myrealbox.com) Received: from Rozinante mimerki@smtp-send.myrealbox.com [66.189.184.4] $ on Novell NetWare; Mon, 09 Jun 2003 08:33:20 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Marcia Barrett Nice To: "M. Ireland" , Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 08:33:19 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <20030609121427.B7B7F43F93@mx1.FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20030609121427.B7B7F43F93@mx1.FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <03060908331902.00408@Rozinante> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Does this list do anything ?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 15:33:22 -0000 On Monday 09 June 2003 02:37 pm, M. Ireland wrote Does this list do anything ??: | Greetings !! | | I have signed up for this, over a fortnight ago and all I get every day | is the same listing, as below : | ----------------- | | >Send freebsd-newbies mailing list submissions to | > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org | > | >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit | > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies | >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to | > freebsd-newbies-request@freebsd.org | > | >You can reach the person managing the list at | > freebsd-newbies-owner@freebsd.org | > | >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific | >than "Re: Contents of freebsd-newbies digest..." | | Now, I am very much the newbie, so I was wondering, have I done anything | wrong in the signing up on this list ?? | | Thanks for any help in advance. | | M. Ireland. | You appear to have signed up for the digest version of the list. This means that you'll receive one big message daily rather than however many individual messages are sent. The -newbies list tends to be very quiet, so it's not surprising that you haven't been getting much else (though I could swear people have been talking on this list in the last 2 weeks, but I could be wrong). Feel free to try to start a conversation. Most technical questions should be taken to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org list, but if you are looking for just helpful hints or advice feel free to ask here. (Also, while technical questions will be redirected to the -questions list, it's not like you'll get thrown off the list for asking them.) Marci -- Oh thou of noble birth meditate upon thy own tutelary deity." -The Tibetan Book of the Dead From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 09:25:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38B4C37B401 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 09:25:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1-0.chcgil.ameritech.net (mail1-0.chcgil.ameritech.net [206.141.192.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F42043F85 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 09:25:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from snoopy248th@ameritech.net) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([67.39.255.117]) by mail1-0.chcgil.ameritech.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.17 201-229-119) with ESMTP <20030612162506.OYCC21870.mail1-0.chcgil.ameritech.net@[192.168.1.2]> for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:25:06 -0500 From: Kris Kerwin To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:24:51 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200306121124.51535.snoopy248th@ameritech.net> Subject: Starting daemons at boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: snoopy248th@ameritech.net List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 16:25:08 -0000 Just wondering how I can start kdm and xfs, as well as other daemons, at boot without having to log in as root and type it manually. Thanks. Kris Kerwin From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 10:29:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C212337B401 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 10:29:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thor.acuson.com (thor.acuson.com [157.226.71.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F346143FBF for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 10:29:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DavidJohnson@Siemens.com) Received: from mvaexch02.acuson.com (mvaexch02.acuson.com [157.226.230.209]) by thor.acuson.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 (built Feb 21 2002)) with ESMTP id <0HGD00MOOPVLX0@thor.acuson.com> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 10:28:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 10:17:45 -0700 Received: from dhcp-46-117.acuson.com ([157.226.46.117]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id JQ7NDPM0; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 10:19:03 -0700 Content-return: allowed Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 10:29:16 -0700 From: Johnson David In-reply-to: <200306121124.51535.snoopy248th@ameritech.net> To: snoopy248th@ameritech.net, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-id: <200306121029.16619.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> Organization: Siemens Medical Systems MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 References: <200306121124.51535.snoopy248th@ameritech.net> Subject: Re: Starting daemons at boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 17:30:00 -0000 On Thursday 12 June 2003 04:24 am, Kris Kerwin wrote: > Just wondering how I can start kdm and xfs, as well as other daemons, > at boot without having to log in as root and type it manually. > Thanks. The documentation is your friend! If you installed the documentation, you can find your answers at: kdm - /usr/share/doc/handbook/x-xdm.html xfs - /usr/share/doc/handbook/x-fonts.html (I'm not sure how xfs is being started on my system, because I am not doing it manually, but it is being run) If you did not install the documenation, it is still available online at www.freebsd.org. David From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 13:29:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F9737B401 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 13:29:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from herzl.customer.speedlink.de (herzl.customer.loomes.de [212.40.165.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1219743FB1 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 13:29:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lists@bsdberlin.org) Received: from smtp.bsdberlin.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by herzl.customer.speedlink.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 82DB4FA1D for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 22:25:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <2750.1055449509.webmail@smtp.bsdberlin.org> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 22:25:09 +0200 (CEST) From: "Danny Koenig" To: X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Mailer: BSDUGB-Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Starting daemons at boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 20:29:34 -0000 Hi Kerwin, On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, Kris Kerwin wrote: > Just wondering how I can start kdm and xfs, as well as other daemons, at boot > without having to log in as root and type it manually. Thanks. put all your *.sh scripts into /usr/local/etc/rc.d or edit /etc/rc.local Greez Danny -- BSD User Group Berlin, Germany http://www.bsdberlin.org From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 01:15:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BC3E37B401 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 01:15:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (sea1-dav49.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.162.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7BEB43F93 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 01:15:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rnehora@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 01:15:40 -0700 Received: from 64.163.31.157 by sea1-dav49.sea1.hotmail.com with DAV; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 08:15:40 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [64.163.31.157] X-Originating-Email: [rnehora@hotmail.com] From: "Rick" To: Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 01:15:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jun 2003 08:15:40.0539 (UTC) FILETIME=[FA3E9CB0:01C33183] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Blackbox Error Message X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 08:15:41 -0000 Running Freebsd 4.8 =20 I'm receiving the following error message each time I try and start = blackbox: =20 BaseDisplay::BaseDisplay: connection to X server failed. =20 Any help would be greatly appreciated Rick From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 01:35:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3244D37B401 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 01:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bubo.vslib.cz (bubo.vslib.cz [147.230.16.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9276043F3F for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 01:35:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from martin.vana@vslib.cz) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bubo.vslib.cz (Postfix) with SMTP id CCFB4CC1DD for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 10:35:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from a415a (a415a.kolej.vslib.cz [147.230.152.27]) by bubo.vslib.cz (Postfix) with SMTP id 28ABDCC1CA for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 10:35:18 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <002901c33185$f62a8920$1b98e693@kolej.vslib.cz> From: "=?iso-8859-2?B?TWFydGluIFbh8mE=?=" To: "bsdnewbies" Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 10:29:52 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: secure remote login from win X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 08:35:20 -0000 Hi, I'm trying to connect to my freebsd /5.1/ box via SecureCrt from win98. I'm sure that I do remember root password but it always kick me out with 'bad password' in both SSH1 and SSH2. Do I have to configure root to be accessible from outside? thank you Martin From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 01:39:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F0E37B401 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 01:39:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from etna.obsidian.co.za (etna.obsidian.co.za [196.36.119.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D3EC43F3F for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 01:39:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeandre@itvs.co.za) Received: from etna.obsidian.co.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by etna.obsidian.co.za (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5D8d3qt007708; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 10:39:03 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost)h5D8d3i6007706; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 10:39:03 +0200 Received: from tarcil (tarcil [172.16.1.14]) by flash.itvs.co.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21338; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:10:08 +0200 Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 10:35:36 +0200 (SAST) From: Jeandre du Toit X-X-Sender: jeandre@localhost.localdomain To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Martin_V=E1=F2a?= In-Reply-To: <002901c33185$f62a8920$1b98e693@kolej.vslib.cz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT cc: bsdnewbies Subject: Re: secure remote login from win X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 08:39:10 -0000 Does it work when you SSH to a normal user and then su? On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, Martin Váòa wrote: > Hi, > I'm trying to connect to my freebsd /5.1/ box via SecureCrt from win98. I'm > sure that I do remember root password but it always kick me out with 'bad > password' in both SSH1 and SSH2. > Do I have to configure root to be accessible from outside? > thank you > Martin > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 02:34:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 134E137B401 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 02:34:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from herzl.customer.speedlink.de (herzl.customer.loomes.de [212.40.165.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D75443FBD for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 02:34:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lists@bsdberlin.org) Received: from smtp.bsdberlin.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by herzl.customer.speedlink.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 73F8DFA1D; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:29:56 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <36294.1055496596.webmail@smtp.bsdberlin.org> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:29:56 +0200 (CEST) From: "Danny Koenig" To: In-Reply-To: <002901c33185$f62a8920$1b98e693@kolej.vslib.cz> References: <002901c33185$f62a8920$1b98e693@kolej.vslib.cz> X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Mailer: BSDUGB-Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: secure remote login from win X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 09:34:23 -0000 > I'm trying to connect to my freebsd /5.1/ box via SecureCrt from win98. > I'm sure that I do remember root password but it always kick me out with > 'bad password' in both SSH1 and SSH2. > Do I have to configure root to be accessible from outside? Do you use the default configuration by sshd on your freebsd box? Generally I use Putty to connect from Win to any SSHD (http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/). Also PermitRootLogin must be set to "YES" in the sshd_config. If you want to change to SuperUser with su, the currently user must be in gid 'wheel'. Danny -- God? Root? Where is the difference? From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 03:02:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F33037B401 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 03:02:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fox.noc.fr.clara.net (fox.noc.fr.clara.net [212.43.195.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 074FA43F93 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 03:02:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fox@fr.clara.net) Received: by fox.noc.fr.clara.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C425E3372A; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:02:00 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:02:00 +0200 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030613100200.GA10042@fr.clara.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-Opinion-System: Perlons peu, perlons bien. X-NCC-Regid: fr.clara X-Uptime: 2 days 18:05 From: fox@fr.clara.net (Fox) Subject: fdisk X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 10:02:04 -0000 Hi there, is there a way I can get fdisk to give an output in the 'fdisk -l' linux style ? Regards. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 03:11:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C3137B401 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 03:11:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from herzl.customer.speedlink.de (herzl.customer.loomes.de [212.40.165.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3245043F93 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 03:11:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lists@bsdberlin.org) Received: from smtp.bsdberlin.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by herzl.customer.speedlink.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 5183FFA1D; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:07:13 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <49580.1055498833.webmail@smtp.bsdberlin.org> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:07:13 +0200 (CEST) From: "Danny Koenig" To: In-Reply-To: <20030613100200.GA10042@fr.clara.net> References: <20030613100200.GA10042@fr.clara.net> X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Mailer: BSDUGB-Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fdisk X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 10:11:40 -0000 > > Hi there, > > is there a way I can get fdisk to give an output in the 'fdisk -l' > linux style ? What is the Output by doing 'fdisk -l' under linux? Danny -- God? Root? Where is the difference? From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 03:15:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E45E337B401 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 03:15:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fox.noc.fr.clara.net (fox.noc.fr.clara.net [212.43.195.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5494E43F75 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 03:15:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fox@fr.clara.net) Received: by fox.noc.fr.clara.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 509603372A; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:15:47 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:15:47 +0200 To: Danny Koenig Message-ID: <20030613101547.GB10042@fr.clara.net> References: <20030613100200.GA10042@fr.clara.net> <49580.1055498833.webmail@smtp.bsdberlin.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <49580.1055498833.webmail@smtp.bsdberlin.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-Opinion-System: Perlons peu, perlons bien. X-NCC-Regid: fr.clara X-Uptime: 2 days 18:05 From: fox@fr.clara.net (Fox) cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fdisk X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 10:15:51 -0000 Le Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 12:07:13PM +0200, Danny Koenig ecrivait: > > > > Hi there, > > > > is there a way I can get fdisk to give an output in the 'fdisk -l' > > linux style ? > > What is the Output by doing 'fdisk -l' under linux? Here is an example: root@fox :/home/fox#fdisk -l Disque /dev/hda: 20.4 Go, 20485785600 octets 255 têtes, 63 secteurs/piste, 2490 cylindres Unités = cylindres de 16065 * 512 = 8225280 octets Périphérique Amorce Begining End Blocs Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 608 4883728+ 83 Linux /dev/hda2 609 627 152617+ 82 Linux swap /dev/hda3 628 1235 4883760 83 Linux /dev/hda4 1236 2490 10080787+ 83 Linux root@fox :/home/fox# -- fox@fr.clara.net Claranet France -- From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 03:20:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7F3937B401 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 03:20:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fox.noc.fr.clara.net (fox.noc.fr.clara.net [212.43.195.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE1543FAF for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 03:20:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fox@fr.clara.net) Received: by fox.noc.fr.clara.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7E5EC3372A; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:20:54 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:20:54 +0200 To: Danny Koenig Message-ID: <20030613102054.GA10070@fr.clara.net> References: <20030613100200.GA10042@fr.clara.net> <49580.1055498833.webmail@smtp.bsdberlin.org> <20030613101547.GB10042@fr.clara.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20030613101547.GB10042@fr.clara.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-Opinion-System: Perlons peu, perlons bien. X-NCC-Regid: fr.clara X-Uptime: 2 days 18:08 From: fox@fr.clara.net (Fox) cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fdisk X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 10:20:58 -0000 Le Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 12:15:47PM +0200, Fox ecrivait: > Le Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 12:07:13PM +0200, Danny Koenig ecrivait: > > > > > > Hi there, > > > > > > is there a way I can get fdisk to give an output in the 'fdisk -l' > > > linux style ? > > > > What is the Output by doing 'fdisk -l' under linux? > Here is an example: > > root@fox :/home/fox#fdisk -l > > Disque /dev/hda: 20.4 Go, 20485785600 octets > 255 têtes, 63 secteurs/piste, 2490 cylindres > Unités = cylindres de 16065 * 512 = 8225280 octets > > Périphérique Amorce Begining End Blocs Id System > /dev/hda1 * 1 608 4883728+ 83 Linux > /dev/hda2 609 627 152617+ 82 Linux swap > /dev/hda3 628 1235 4883760 83 Linux > /dev/hda4 1236 2490 10080787+ 83 Linux > root@fox :/home/fox# 'disklabel -r' seems to do *quite* what I want in fact. -- fox@fr.clara.net Claranet France -- From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 03:34:30 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1BF537B401 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 03:34:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from herzl.customer.speedlink.de (herzl.customer.loomes.de [212.40.165.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33FC243F85 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 03:34:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lists@bsdberlin.org) Received: from smtp.bsdberlin.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by herzl.customer.speedlink.de (Postfix) with SMTP id DF293FA1D; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:30:03 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <54890.1055500203.webmail@smtp.bsdberlin.org> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:30:03 +0200 (CEST) From: "Danny Koenig" To: In-Reply-To: <20030613101547.GB10042@fr.clara.net> References: <20030613100200.GA10042@fr.clara.net> <49580.1055498833.webmail@smtp.bsdberlin.org> <20030613101547.GB10042@fr.clara.net> X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Mailer: BSDUGB-Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fdisk X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 10:34:31 -0000 >> What is the Output by doing 'fdisk -l' under linux? > Here is an example: > > root@fox :/home/fox#fdisk -l > > Disque /dev/hda: 20.4 Go, 20485785600 octets > 255 têtes, 63 secteurs/piste, 2490 cylindres > Unités = cylindres de 16065 * 512 = 8225280 octets > > Périphérique Amorce Begining End Blocs Id System > /dev/hda1 * 1 608 4883728+ 83 Linux > /dev/hda2 609 627 152617+ 82 Linux swap > /dev/hda3 628 1235 4883760 83 Linux > /dev/hda4 1236 2490 10080787+ 83 Linux > root@fox :/home/fox# An more similar output is 'df -h'. Or see manual for more commands of df(1). Danny -- God? Root? Where is the difference? From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 03:36:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5ABF37B401 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 03:36:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fox.noc.fr.clara.net (fox.noc.fr.clara.net [212.43.195.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16F0A43FBD for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 03:36:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fox@fr.clara.net) Received: by fox.noc.fr.clara.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2DECB3372A; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:36:50 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:36:50 +0200 To: Danny Koenig Message-ID: <20030613103650.GA10285@fr.clara.net> References: <20030613100200.GA10042@fr.clara.net> <49580.1055498833.webmail@smtp.bsdberlin.org> <20030613101547.GB10042@fr.clara.net> <54890.1055500203.webmail@smtp.bsdberlin.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <54890.1055500203.webmail@smtp.bsdberlin.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-Opinion-System: Perlons peu, perlons bien. X-NCC-Regid: fr.clara X-Uptime: 2 days 18:38 From: fox@fr.clara.net (Fox) cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fdisk X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 10:36:53 -0000 Le Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 12:30:03PM +0200, Danny Koenig ecrivait: > >> What is the Output by doing 'fdisk -l' under linux? > > Here is an example: > > > > root@fox :/home/fox#fdisk -l > > > > Disque /dev/hda: 20.4 Go, 20485785600 octets > > 255 têtes, 63 secteurs/piste, 2490 cylindres > > Unités = cylindres de 16065 * 512 = 8225280 octets > > > > Périphérique Amorce Begining End Blocs Id System > > /dev/hda1 * 1 608 4883728+ 83 Linux > > /dev/hda2 609 627 152617+ 82 Linux swap > > /dev/hda3 628 1235 4883760 83 Linux > > /dev/hda4 1236 2490 10080787+ 83 Linux > > root@fox :/home/fox# > > An more similar output is 'df -h'. Or see manual for more commands of df(1). df does not give you the Blocs, begining and ending cylenders. disklabel seems to be good to me, thanx. -- fox@fr.clara.net Claranet France -- From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 11:57:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF39637B401 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:57:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thor.acuson.com (ac17859.acuson.com [157.226.71.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 891C343F85 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:57:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DavidJohnson@Siemens.com) Received: from mvaexch02.acuson.com (mvaexch02.acuson.com [157.226.230.209]) by thor.acuson.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 (built Feb 21 2002)) with ESMTP id <0HGF002BWOL9M0@thor.acuson.com> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:55:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:45:08 -0700 Received: from dhcp-46-117.acuson.com ([157.226.46.117]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id JQ7N1KLL; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:46:28 -0700 Content-return: allowed Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:56:46 -0700 From: Johnson David In-reply-to: To: Rick , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-id: <200306131156.46608.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> Organization: Siemens Medical Systems MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 References: Subject: Re: Blackbox Error Message X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 18:57:26 -0000 On Friday 13 June 2003 01:15 am, Rick wrote: > I'm receiving the following error message each time I try and start > blackbox: > > BaseDisplay::BaseDisplay: connection to X server failed. Do you have X running? If you do, send the question on to -questions instead of here. You you don't have it running, that's your problem. See Handbook for using X. David From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 19:10:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F40AB37B404 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 19:10:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75C5F43FBD for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 19:10:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (sue@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5E2AFUp043698 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 19:10:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5E2AFXx043691 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 19:10:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 19:10:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <200306140210.h5E2AFXx043691@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies FAK X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 02:10:16 -0000 FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://people.freebsd.org/~sue/newbies/fak.html FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. It is particularly important to send all installation questions and answers to FreeBSD-Questions so that they only appear in one place. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for FreeBSD help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. We can help people to use the FreeBSD mailing lists and resources, or to interact more productively with the broader FreeBSD community. These are not support questions, and not technical, so we deal with them here. Everyone can help with these new user orientation requests. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. 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