From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 27 00:10:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9728537B401; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 00:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [64.251.88.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F7D43F3F; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 00:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 68119AE468; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 00:10:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20030727071001.68119AE468@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 00:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2003-07-06 - 2003-07-26 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 07:10:02 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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These are the articles posted during this period: 13-Jul : Phorum v3.4 -installation and configuration And we'll also cover conversion from MySQL to PostgreSQL http://freebsddiary.org/phorum-upgrade-3.4.3a.php?2 -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/ - practical examples FreshPorts - http://www.FreshPorts.org/ - the place for ports FreshSource - http://www.FreshSource.org/ - the place for source From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 27 06:38:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E822637B401 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 06:38:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-da-2.dns-solutions.net (mail-da-2.dns-solutions.net [69.12.112.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 39D2343F85 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 06:38:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@vcommunities.net) Received: (qmail 49864 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2003 13:38:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO equilibrium) (mvondung@vcommunities.net@212.144.73.253) by mail-da-2.dns-solutions.net - 212.144.73.253 with SMTP; 27 Jul 2003 13:38:42 -0000 From: "Michael Vondung" To: Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 15:38:28 +0200 Message-ID: <003901c35444$618129f0$fd4990d4@equilibrium> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Subject: Sharing Internet access with a XP box. X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:38:46 -0000 Greetings, After well over a decade with MS products, I'm in the (very) early = stages of switching platforms. After looking at various Linux distros, I came to = the conclusion that FreeBSD (and its more mature community) is the better = choice for me. I must admit, though, that I'm rather overwhelmed, so please = bear with my hopelessly incorrect terminology and the painful lack of = knowledge. :) I've installed FreeBSD 4.8 on a second machine (a P3/700/256M with a 20 = GB HD). The installation (I did several, just to familiarize myself with = the various options) went smooth. The machine it is on does not have a = direct connect to the internet. I bought a network card (Intel PRO/100M Desktop adapter, which was properly recognised by FreeBSD -- a new experience to actually check compatibility lists before purchasing a piece of = hardware) for the FreeBSD machine, and connected it to my XP workstation (a P4/2.6G/512M with currently 80 GB, which has an Intel PRO/100 VE adapter on-board) with a crossed cable. This workstation runs Windows XP Pro, = and connects to the Internet via a dial-up ISDN connection (FritzCard). It = does not have a static IP address, and it is *not* permanently connected to = the 'net. My next "bigger" step is that I'd like FreeBSD to use/share the Internet connection of the XP machine so that I can download ports and packages, = and learn more about maintaining the system. Ideally, the FreeBSD box should "know" whether the XP machine is currently connected to the 'net. This sounds simply, but I already declare defeat at this point because I = don't even know where to start. This is actually the "destination", and I first tried something easier: = to run a telnet client on the XP machine and connect to it from the BSD = box. I assigned a fictive IP address to the Ethernet card in the FreeBSD box (1.2.3.4) and tried to telnet to that address. (At this point you can = tell that I never worked with LANs.) Then I tried to telnet to the dynamic address the XP box currently had (why, I don't know!). Neither idea had = any success. So, in addition to my actual question (the "shared" Internet access), I actually don't have an idea how to make both machines "talk" = with each other, regardless of any Internet connection. Like I said, I do = sound hopelessly helpless. :) On a side note, my "actual goal" is to eventually turn the FreeBSD box = into a local IMAP/NNTP server that gets data through the Internet connection = of the XP machine. The mail/news programs on the XP machine would then get their data from the FreeBSD box. It would probably be much easier if the FreeBSD box connected to the net directly, however, this isn't possible because it does not have a free PCI slot, and I can't "stuff" another = ISDN card into it (I'd also prefer not have to buy another one). "Down the road", my plan is to get a second 40 or 80 GB HD for my = (current) XP box and put FreeBSD on it and then dual-boot. The reason I want the "other" PC to function as "external" IMAP server is so that I will eventually be able to maintain mail via both XP and BSD, without ending = up with different mail databases. (I need Outlook as well as a native = Windows environment for job-related reasons, so I can't do without XP for some = time, but would like to also be able to do mail under FreeBSD. Having mail = stored on a different computer that operates as an IMAP server is the best idea = I can come up with. This is purely theoretical.) Anyway, this is the destination and unlikely to be accomplished any time soon, seeing how I get stuck at the very basic "challenges" already. My thanks for suggestions, thoughts and help in advance, -Michael From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 27 14:04:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 427DA37B404 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 14:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pursued-with.net (adsl-66-125-9-242.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net [66.125.9.242]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DAE443F93 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 14:04:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Kevin_Stevens@pursued-with.net) Received: from pursued-with.net ([192.168.168.101]) by pursued-with.net (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6RL5VpL003265; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 14:05:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Kevin_Stevens@pursued-with.net) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 14:04:08 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) To: "Michael Vondung" From: Kevin Stevens In-Reply-To: <003901c35444$618129f0$fd4990d4@equilibrium> Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sharing Internet access with a XP box. X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 21:04:09 -0000 On Sunday, Jul 27, 2003, at 06:38 US/Pacific, Michael Vondung wrote: > I've installed FreeBSD 4.8 on a second machine (a P3/700/256M with a > 20 GB > HD). The installation (I did several, just to familiarize myself with > the > various options) went smooth. The machine it is on does not have a > direct > connect to the internet. I bought a network card (Intel PRO/100M > Desktop > adapter, which was properly recognised by FreeBSD -- a new experience > to > actually check compatibility lists before purchasing a piece of > hardware) > for the FreeBSD machine, and connected it to my XP workstation (a > P4/2.6G/512M with currently 80 GB, which has an Intel PRO/100 VE > adapter > on-board) with a crossed cable. This workstation runs Windows XP Pro, > and > connects to the Internet via a dial-up ISDN connection (FritzCard). It > does > not have a static IP address, and it is *not* permanently connected to > the > 'net. > > My next "bigger" step is that I'd like FreeBSD to use/share the > Internet > connection of the XP machine so that I can download ports and > packages, and > learn more about maintaining the system. Ok. This is mostly a Windows XP ICS (Internet Connection Sharing) issue. You should first read the Windows documentation on setting up ICS to make an IP address available on that Intel Ethernet interface. You would prefer it to be a single fixed address rather than assigned from a DHCP scope on the XP box, because it makes the configuration somewhat simpler on the BSD side for a beginner. > Ideally, the FreeBSD box should > "know" whether the XP machine is currently connected to the 'net.'' Why is that a goal? > This > sounds simply, but I already declare defeat at this point because I > don't > even know where to start. > This is actually the "destination", and I first tried something > easier: to > run a telnet client on the XP machine and connect to it from the BSD > box. I You would be better advised to use an SSH client for two reasons: first, telnet is deprecated and you might as well learn what you'll be more likely to use in the future; second, because ssh is already supported on FreeBSD and you have to jump through a couple of hoops to enable telnet. PuTTY is a wonderful ssh (and telnet) program that runs on all flavors of Windows. It is free, fast, effective, small in size, does not embed itself in the registry, and is the first hit found on Google for the search terms "putty ssh". Regardless of any future involvement in FreeBSD it's a good addition to your XP machine. > assigned a fictive IP address to the Ethernet card in the FreeBSD box > (1.2.3.4) and tried to telnet to that address. (At this point you can > tell > that I never worked with LANs.) Then I tried to telnet to the dynamic > address the XP box currently had (why, I don't know!). Neither idea > had any > success. First, you can't just use random IP addresses. Second, XP doesn't run a telnet "answering" program by default (neither does FreeBSD, as mentioned above). A program that sits around waiting to respond to requests is usually called a service under Windows, or a daemon under Unix-ish operating systems; or, more generically, a server. Since you weren't running a telnet server on XP there was nothing there to "answer" your telnet session request. (Assuming it was received, which it probably wasn't because you made up the address). > So, in addition to my actual question (the "shared" Internet > access), I actually don't have an idea how to make both machines > "talk" with > each other, regardless of any Internet connection. Like I said, I do > sound > hopelessly helpless. :) The most common test for connectivity is the "ping" program, across all platforms using TCP/IP. Telnet or SSH are "higher level" programs; there can be a number of things beyond basic network connectivity that they need in order to work, as we saw above. It's generally a good idea to start network troubleshooting by trying to ping (by IP address, not name) a remote host. The first step is to assign an appropriate address/netmask to the XP Intel NIC, the ICS setup should help with this. It would probably begin with 10.0., 172.16., or 192.168. These encompass the address ranges set aside for private use. The ICS service will translate from these addresses to the "public" address assigned to your ISDN interface. Once that is done, assign an appropriate address/netmask to the BSD machine's interface, using fixed addressing or DHCP depending on how you set up ICS as mentioned above. Now you should be able to ping. > On a side note, my "actual goal" is to eventually turn the FreeBSD box > into > a local IMAP/NNTP server that gets data through the Internet > connection of > the XP machine. The mail/news programs on the XP machine would then get > their data from the FreeBSD box. Quite reasonable. When you get to that point, I suggest looking at "leafnode" for NNTP, and the IMAP server that comes with pine (uw-imap), or dammit-I-can't-remember-the=other-big-one-someone-chime-in-here! ;) -- NB: just remembered, it's "cyrus". > It would probably be much easier if the > FreeBSD box connected to the net directly, however, this isn't possible > because it does not have a free PCI slot, and I can't "stuff" another > ISDN > card into it (I'd also prefer not have to buy another one). It actually would be easier, or at least most common, if your internet connection terminated on a router/switch with separate ports connected to the two machines. However, while these devices are now extremely cheap for Ethernet connected equipment (coming from a cable or DSL modem); they are NOT particularly cheap for an ISDN user. If you ever switch from ISDN you should reassess. > "Down the road", my plan is to get a second 40 or 80 GB HD for my > (current) > XP box and put FreeBSD on it and then dual-boot. Most people are happier having both machines active, perhaps sharing a single monitor/keyboard/mouse. > The reason I want the > "other" PC to function as "external" IMAP server is so that I will > eventually be able to maintain mail via both XP and BSD, without > ending up > with different mail databases. (I need Outlook as well as a native > Windows > environment for job-related reasons, so I can't do without XP for some > time, > but would like to also be able to do mail under FreeBSD. Having mail > stored > on a different computer that operates as an IMAP server is the best > idea I > can come up with. This is purely theoretical.) That's how I do it. Mail is delivered to/from my FreeBSD server (soon to go away and be replaced with a Mac G5 tower running OS X, but the functionality will be the same), and accessed by IMAP via: XP machine running Outlook, W2K laptop running Outlook Express, Mac PowerBook running OS X/Mail, pine (a terminal-based email and newsreader), and squirrelmail, a web server that runs on FreeBSD and provides a web-based (Hotmail-like) interface I can access remotely from the Internet. All the mail stays where it should and I don't have issues with multiple copies, read mail appearing as new on other machines, etc. > My thanks for suggestions, thoughts and help in advance, You need to bulk up your understanding of basic TCP/IP configuration issues a bit or you're going to get frustrated. You should understand the terms: IP address; subnet mask, default gateway/default route, port, DNS, host name, DHCP and protocol; approximately in that order. KeS From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 27 16:48:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A4537B401 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 16:48:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.orbitel.bg (smtp.orbitel.bg [195.24.32.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2F34143F85 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 16:48:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bivol@vip.bg) Received: (qmail 28953 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2003 23:48:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bivol) (193.108.24.73) by mail.orbitel.bg with SMTP; 27 Jul 2003 23:48:48 -0000 From: "Peter An. Zyumbilev" To: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 02:53:43 +0300 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 Importance: Normal Subject: X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 23:48:50 -0000 From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 27 21:27:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD33A37B401 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 21:27:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.oisca.org (french-southern.fs.ksi.ne.jp [164.46.152.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D4F43FBD for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 21:27:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from r_ikeda@oisca.org) Received: from Logistics.OISCA (f254.ac121.FreeBit.NE.JP [43.244.121.254]) (authenticated) by mail.oisca.org (8.11.6p2/8.11.3) with ESMTP id h6S4RtE30405 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 13:27:56 +0900 Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 13:26:22 +0900 From: "Rommel B. Ikeda" To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20030728132622.420ea290.r_ikeda@oisca.org> Organization: OISCA-International X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Lost-Need Help on Ports, Packages, CVSup, and AnonCVS X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 04:27:59 -0000 Dear Friends, I do not know if this is the right place to ask but since I am a Newbie I thought I should start looking for answers here and maybe move on to wherever you might be able to guide me... I am trying to configure my system that I can be able to input Japanese Characters in my system... I read in David Thiel's page (http://redundancy.redundancy.org/fbsd_japanese.html) on how to do things...in his page were instructions to compile files needed to accomplish my needs. I was able to compile "Canna" and "Eterm" using my Ports but when I tried to compile "kinput2-canna," there was an Error Code 1 and gave me advice to download the package and compile it...I downloaded the package but when I use pkg_add a warning said the it needs a "fontconfig.2.2.1" package as one of it's dependent...So I downloaded the said package and I tried to compile it...but it says that an older package "fontconfig.2.2.0" is already installed...when I tried to pkg_delete it...it said that it is needed by other programs so it can not be deleted...unfortunately this is the end of the line for me...I am afraid that I do not know what to do next... With regards to CVSup and AnonCVS, I tried to use CVSup once but it seems to me that this is quite difficult for me at present...due to my little knowledge on everything or shall I say Unix...I have read in the Handbook that there is another option for me to get my ports updated...which is AnonCVS...I have not thoroughly read it yet but I have already decided to try it and if I get right I might move ahead in using CVSup in the future... I am sorry that this has turned out to be a long Email...I hope to hear from anyone who can give me comments, advices, or help regarding this matter... Thank you very much.. Rommel B. Ikeda From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 30 15:36:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 929D637B401 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:36:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-3.tiscali.it (mail-3.tiscali.it [195.130.225.149]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1A5443F85 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:36:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from xxcrisxx@tiscali.it) Received: from [213.3.36.15] by mail-3.tiscali.it with HTTP; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:56:20 +0200 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:56:20 +0200 Message-ID: <3F1E20580000E668@mail-3.tiscali.it> From: xxcrisxx@tiscali.it To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: 5.0 and support for USB 2.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:36:32 -0000 Hello to all list I'm a newbie of freebsd (I used linux for a couple of years),I had just assembled my new computer (Gigabyte 7VAXP with athlon XP2500+ ), I instal= led a 5.0 release and is working fine and I'd like to know if I can set the kernel to support usb 2.0 or I have to install the freebsd 5.1 , I saw th= at is not so stable but I have this USB esternal modem ISDN (DrayTek Vigor 128) and I don't know how to fix it , the sound card(AC97 Realtek ALC650)= as well is not reconized but I think I can fix it . Sorry for my English and thank you in advance for your answers :-) Cristiano __________________________________________________________________ Partecipa al concorso Tiscali "collegati e vinci", il primo premio e' un viaggio per 2 persone a Zanzibar! http://point.tiscali.it/numerounico/ From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 30 17:00:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A014C37B47B for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:00:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zeus.acuson.com (ac17860.acuson.com [157.226.71.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5E0E43FBD for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:00:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DavidJohnson@Siemens.com) Received: from mvaexch02 ([157.226.230.209]:1194 helo=mvaexch02.acuson.com) by zeus.acuson.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19i0rl-0002DC-4s; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:00:21 -0700 Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:00:02 -0700 Received: from dhcp-46-117.acuson.com ([157.226.46.117]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 36GPFCPY; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 16:59:19 -0700 From: Johnson David To: xxcrisxx@tiscali.it, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Organization: Siemens Medical Systems Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 16:59:30 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 References: <3F1E20580000E668@mail-3.tiscali.it> In-Reply-To: <3F1E20580000E668@mail-3.tiscali.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200307301659.31264.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> X-Scanner: exiscan for exim4 (http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/) *19i0rl-0002DC-4s*udnTuCYqsN2* X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: Re: 5.0 and support for USB 2.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 00:00:23 -0000 On Wednesday 30 July 2003 02:56 pm, xxcrisxx@tiscali.it wrote: > Hello to all list > > I'm a newbie of freebsd (I used linux for a couple of years),I had > just assembled my new computer (Gigabyte 7VAXP with athlon XP2500+ ), > I installed a 5.0 release and is working fine and I'd like to know if > I can set the kernel to support usb 2.0 or I have to install the > freebsd 5.1 , I saw that is not so stable but I have this USB > esternal modem ISDN (DrayTek Vigor 128) and I don't know how to fix > it , the sound card(AC97 Realtek ALC650)as well is not reconized but > I think I can fix it . This question really should go to the -questions list, but since I just did a bit of research on this an hour ago, I'll state some of the general stuff. USB 2.0 uses the ECHI controller. The driver for this first appeared in FreeBSD 5.1, and" is not finished and is quite buggy." So don't expect much off of USB 2.0 for a while. However, every USB 2.0 motherboard that I am aware of also supports USB 1 through OHCI or UHCI. These work quite well. Your USB modem should support being connected to OHCI/UHCI, since most people still have USB 1. But check your modem documentation or the manufacturer's website. David From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 31 11:51:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73D3E37B401 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:51:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thor.misn.com (jupiter.misn.com [64.240.20.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C30F43F75 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:51:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from copling@fidnet.com) Received: from yourze8cxvr8tt (66-43-33-59.misn.com [66.43.33.59]) by thor.misn.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) with SMTP id h6VIpYp16080 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:51:34 -0500 Message-ID: <000a01c35795$749cc2c0$358dfea9@yourze8cxvr8tt> From: "Ken Copling" To: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:56:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-ECS-MailScanner: Found to be clean Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 18:51:46 -0000 hello is there a command that allows me to hook up to the net through = the text consoles i know i can use kppp through kde an gnome has its own = to but I hate having to start up x just to be able to surf the web From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 31 12:07:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A7C837B401 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:07:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web40609.mail.yahoo.com (web40609.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.78.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E2E4343FAF for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:07:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from deesto@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030731190754.74799.qmail@web40609.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [143.48.14.233] by web40609.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:07:54 PDT Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:07:54 -0700 (PDT) From: John DeStefano To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20030731190135.35E2637B40B@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: Ken Copling Subject: Re: X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 19:07:55 -0000 "Ken Copling" wrote: >hello is there a command that allows me to hook up to the net through the text >consoles i know i can use kppp through kde an gnome has its own to but I hate having >to start up x just to be able to surf the web For console, text-only surfing, give lynx a try: lynx www.yahoo.com or "man lynx" for more info. ~John --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 31 12:09:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F354F37B401 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:09:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C08BB43F3F for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:09:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DocValde@gmx.de) Received: (qmail 19065 invoked by uid 65534); 31 Jul 2003 19:09:45 -0000 Received: from port-212-202-3-242.reverse.qsc.de (EHLO master) (212.202.3.242) by mail.gmx.net (mp005) with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 21:09:45 +0200 Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 21:09:44 +0200 From: Malte von dem Hagen X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Educational X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <197604930.20030731210944@gmx.de> To: "Ken Copling" In-Reply-To: <000a01c35795$749cc2c0$358dfea9@yourze8cxvr8tt> References: <000a01c35795$749cc2c0$358dfea9@yourze8cxvr8tt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Subjects make sense was: X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Malte von dem Hagen List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 19:09:48 -0000 Hallo Ken Copling, am Donnerstag, 31. Juli 2003 um 20:56:26 schrieben Sie: > hello is there a command that allows me to hook up to the net through the > text consoles i know i can use kppp through kde an gnome has its own to > but I hate having to start up x just to be able to surf the web 1. This is freebsd-newbies and not freebsd-questions. The second would be a better place for your question. 2. A line in an email should not be longer than 72 characters. If it is longer, it gets unreadable. 3. You should look for another email-client. 4. Please use dots and commata and so on in your writing. The way you do it, i cannot get the sense of your words. Same for capital letters at the beginning of a sentence. 5. Please put a subject on your mail. 6. What do you want, to "hook up to the net" or to "surf the web"? The "Internet" is a lot more than the "World Wide Web". 7. You may want to check /usr/ports/www/lynx Regards, (<- It does not hurt to be polite!) Malte PS && offtopic: I vote for a "internet license" to get before being allowed to pollute the net. -- Malte von dem Hagen DocValde@gmx.de http://www.docvalde.net/ From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 31 13:18:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BF4237B408 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:18:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web14601.mail.yahoo.com (web14601.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3463F43F75 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:18:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from plageotakes@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030731201802.53488.qmail@web14601.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.165.59.149] by web14601.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:18:02 PDT Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:18:02 -0700 (PDT) From: peter lageotakes To: Ken Copling , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <000a01c35795$749cc2c0$358dfea9@yourze8cxvr8tt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 20:18:03 -0000 Try: lynx or links. Both are excellent text mode browsers. elinks may also suit your needs, however I havent tried it yet. FYI: links has an option -g switch for graphical (just in case). Pete --- Ken Copling wrote: > hello is there a command that allows me to hook up > to the net through the text consoles i know i can > use kppp through kde an gnome has its own to but I > hate having to start up x just to be able to surf > the web > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 31 18:06:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B4A37B401; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 18:06:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zeus.acuson.com (ac17860.acuson.com [157.226.71.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B98543F93; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 18:06:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DavidJohnson@Siemens.com) Received: from mvaexch02 ([157.226.230.209]:1711 helo=mvaexch02.acuson.com) by zeus.acuson.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19iONe-000634-3L; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 18:06:50 -0700 Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 18:06:30 -0700 Received: from dhcp-46-117.acuson.com ([157.226.46.117]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 36GPFT73; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 18:05:49 -0700 From: Johnson David To: Greg Lehey Organization: Siemens Medical Systems Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 18:06:02 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 References: <20030721041519.4165.qmail@web40603.mail.yahoo.com> <200307211051.33797.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> <20030731072840.GA713@adelaide.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <20030731072840.GA713@adelaide.lemis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200307311806.02726.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> X-Scanner: exiscan for exim4 (http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/) *19iONe-000634-3L*piGL2pwtiF2* X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ask about BSD's history. X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 01:06:53 -0000 On Thursday 31 July 2003 12:28 am, Greg Lehey wrote: > Well, no, BSD never contained System V code. You're thinking of AT&T > Research UNIX. The CSRG (Computer Sciences Research Group) had been > removing AT&T code. Turns out I was wrong on just about every point! Another reason not to trust the answers given on the -newbies list, even if they're matters of history instead of technical answers :-) David From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 1 04:25:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FEA237B401 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 04:25:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp015.mail.yahoo.com (smtp015.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BB31E43F75 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 04:25:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from breogan77@telefonica.net) Received: from pat02.net.mundo-r.com (HELO telefonica.net) (breogan77@212.51.33.94 with plain) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 2003 11:25:54 -0000 Message-ID: <3F2A4E45.60806@telefonica.net> Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 13:25:57 +0200 From: Iago User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; es-ES; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: es-es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.76.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 11:25:55 -0000 From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 1 09:39:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FFB437B401 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 09:39:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B44BD43F93 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 09:39:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aj@siegel-tech.net) Received: from trekster (12-253-232-62.client.attbi.com[12.253.232.62](untrusted sender)) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <20030801163925011007d91ie> (Authid: leereinhart); Fri, 1 Aug 2003 16:39:25 +0000 From: Aaron Siegel To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 10:39:16 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 References: <000a01c35795$749cc2c0$358dfea9@yourze8cxvr8tt> In-Reply-To: <000a01c35795$749cc2c0$358dfea9@yourze8cxvr8tt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200308011039.16660.aj@siegel-tech.net> Subject: Re: PPP setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 16:39:27 -0000 Hello The handbook explains how to setup a PPP connection that can be initialized from the console. /usr/share/doc/handbook/userppp.html On Thursday 31 July 2003 12:56 pm, Ken Copling wrote: > hello is there a command that allows me to hook up to the net through the > text consoles i know i can use kppp through kde an gnome has its own to but > I hate having to start up x just to be able to surf the web > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 1 19:10:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DCFE37B401 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 19:10:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8286543F3F for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 19:10:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (sue@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h722AGUp016658 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 19:10:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h722AGt9016656 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 19:10:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 19:10:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <200308020210.h722AGt9016656@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies FAK X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 02:10:17 -0000 FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://people.freebsd.org/~sue/newbies/fak.html FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. It is particularly important to send all installation questions and answers to FreeBSD-Questions so that they only appear in one place. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for FreeBSD help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. We can help people to use the FreeBSD mailing lists and resources, or to interact more productively with the broader FreeBSD community. These are not support questions, and not technical, so we deal with them here. Everyone can help with these new user orientation requests. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ Mailing list membership To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Use the easy form at http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies to subscribe to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list, or to change your subscription details if you are already a member. To Unsubscribe from FreeBSD-Newbies: To stop receiving list emails, simply follow the unsubscribe link that appears at the bottom of each email you receive from the mailing list. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org is distributed to all members of the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 2 08:18:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1D437B401 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 08:18:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail47.fg.online.no (mail47-s.fg.online.no [148.122.161.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3226B43FBD for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 08:18:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from manavado@frisurf.no) Received: from tocom (ti200720a141-0111.dialup.online.no [130.67.156.111]) by mail47.fg.online.no (8.9.3p2/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA10995 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 17:18:16 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <000c01c35958$b5343ec0$6f9c4382@tocom> From: "Lal Manavado" To: Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 17:46:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: re-Subjects make sense! X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 15:18:20 -0000 Hallo Malte, One can't agreemore with the sentiments you've expressed here. All too often, sloppiness and incoherent 'use' of language is claimed a 'right' by many a grass root. Moreover, such denizens of the planet also seem to consider crudeness and lack of politeness as a sign of their 'toughness'. Thank you for pointing out and commenting on some things, which has been something a trifle overdue. Sincerely, L.M. ----- Original Message ----- From: Malte von dem Hagen < DocValde@gmx.de> To: Ken Copling < copling@fidnet.com> Cc: < freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 12:09 PM Subject: Re: Subjects make sense was: > Hallo Ken Copling, > am Donnerstag, 31. Juli 2003 um 20:56:26 schrieben Sie: > > > hello is there a command that allows me to hook up to the net = through the > > text consoles i know i can use kppp through kde an gnome has its own = to > > but I hate having to start up x just to be able to surf the web > > 1. This is freebsd-newbies and not freebsd-questions. The second would > be a better place for your question. > > 2. A line in an email should not be longer than 72 characters. If it = is > longer, it gets unreadable. > > 3. You should look for another email-client. > > 4. Please use dots and commata and so on in your writing. The way you = do > it, i cannot get the sense of your words. Same for capital letters = at > the beginning of a sentence. > > 5. Please put a subject on your mail. > > 6. What do you want, to "hook up to the net" or to "surf the web"? > The "Internet" is a lot more than the "World Wide Web". > > 7. You may want to check /usr/ports/www/lynx > > Regards, (<- It does not hurt to be polite!) > > Malte > > PS && offtopic: I vote for a "internet license" to get before being > allowed to pollute the net. > -- > Malte von dem Hagen > > DocValde@gmx.de > http://www.docvalde.net/ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >=20 From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 2 17:11:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EB5237B401 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 17:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1.libero.it (smtp1.libero.it [193.70.192.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C83843FB1 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 17:11:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gmario.tamagnone@libero.it) Received: from ppp-183-159.25-151.libero.it (151.25.159.183) by smtp1.libero.it (7.0.012) (authenticated as gmario.tamagnone@libero.it) id 3ECB938A016D8612 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sun, 3 Aug 2003 02:11:33 +0200 From: giamma To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 02:11:33 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200308030211.33632.gmario.tamagnone@libero.it> Subject: loadable kernel modules X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 00:11:37 -0000 Hi, i'm a newbie for FreeBSD and I've just installed the 5.0 on my box. Here is the problem: I've an internal modem on COM3, and after running sysinstall I've discovered that i've only 2 serial ports (cuaa0 and cuua1) corresponding to COM1 and COM2. How can I do to set up a new serial port on COM3? I must rebuild my kernel? Or edit /etc/rc.serial? Or i have to use mknod? Thanks in advance for your help!!! Greetings, Gianmario Tamagnone. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 2 17:34:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 156C637B401 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 17:34:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailandnews.com (smw01.shanjemail.com [209.81.157.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25FAC43F75 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 17:34:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nicolich@mailandnews.com) Received: from [67.73.51.234] (nicolich@mailandnews.com) by mailandnews.com; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 20:31:48 -0400 X-WM-Posted-At: mailandnews.com; Sat, 2 Aug 03 20:31:48 -0400 Message-ID: <200308021732520390.00EE498E@mailandnews.com> In-Reply-To: <200308030211.33632.gmario.tamagnone@libero.it> References: <200308030211.33632.gmario.tamagnone@libero.it> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.30.00.00 (3) Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 17:32:52 -0800 From: "Eric 'Nick' Nicolich" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: loadable kernel modules X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 00:34:19 -0000 On 8/3/03 at 2:11 AM giamma wrote: > Hi, i'm a newbie for FreeBSD and I've just installed the 5.0 on my > box. Here is the problem: I've an internal modem on COM3, and after > running sysinstall I've discovered that i've only 2 serial ports > (cuaa0 and cuua1) corresponding to COM1 and COM2. How can I do to set > up a new serial port on COM3? You most likely have a "non-controller" modem, either a winmodem or an HCF modem. Unfortunately, these modems require proprietary Windows software to operate and are not compatible with FreeBSD. At least that's been my eperience. Nick From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 2 20:24:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4701237B401 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 20:24:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.cotse.com (mailhost.cotse.com [216.112.42.58]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2099843FA3 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 20:24:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@jyroscop.cotse.net) Received: from www.cotse.net (www [216.112.42.60]) by mailhost.cotse.com (5.7.4/5.7.4) with ESMTP id h733OjXl050359; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 23:24:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from freebsd@jyroscop.cotse.net) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.cotse.net (5.7.4/5.7.4) id h733OioZ047282; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 23:24:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Cotse Members Webmail (authenticated user jyroscop) by www.cotse.net with HTTP; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 23:24:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 23:24:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Abuse-To: abuse@cotse.com From: "Stephen L Martin" To: In-Reply-To: <000c01c35958$b5343ec0$6f9c4382@tocom> References: <000c01c35958$b5343ec0$6f9c4382@tocom> X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: www.cotse.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Subjects make sense! X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 03:24:51 -0000 Here is the link that every poster should know. http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html > Hallo Malte, > > One can't agreemore with the sentiments you've expressed here. > All too often, sloppiness and incoherent 'use' of language is claimed a > 'right' by many a grass root. > Moreover, such denizens of the planet also seem to consider > crudeness and lack of politeness as a sign of their 'toughness'. > Thank you for pointing out and commenting on some things, > which has been something a trifle overdue. > > Sincerely, > > L.M. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Malte von dem Hagen < > DocValde@gmx.de> > > To: Ken Copling < > copling@fidnet.com> > > Cc: < > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org> > > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 12:09 PM > Subject: Re: Subjects make sense was: > >> Hallo Ken Copling, >> am Donnerstag, 31. Juli 2003 um 20:56:26 schrieben Sie: >> >> > hello is there a command that allows me to hook up to the net >> through > the >> > text consoles i know i can use kppp through kde an gnome has its own >> to but I hate having to start up x just to be able to surf the web >> >> 1. This is freebsd-newbies and not freebsd-questions. The second would >> be a better place for your question. >> >> 2. A line in an email should not be longer than 72 characters. If it >> is >> longer, it gets unreadable. >> >> 3. You should look for another email-client. >> >> 4. Please use dots and commata and so on in your writing. The way you >> do >> it, i cannot get the sense of your words. Same for capital letters >> at the beginning of a sentence. >> >> 5. Please put a subject on your mail. >> >> 6. What do you want, to "hook up to the net" or to "surf the web"? >> The "Internet" is a lot more than the "World Wide Web". >> >> 7. You may want to check /usr/ports/www/lynx >> >> Regards, (<- It does not hurt to be polite!) >> >> Malte >> >> PS && offtopic: I vote for a "internet license" to get before being >> allowed to pollute the net. >> -- >> Malte von dem Hagen >> >> > DocValde@gmx.de >> > http://www.docvalde.net/