From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 16 00:10:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60FAC16A4D0; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:10:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [66.154.97.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3D3843F85; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:10:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E6D5AE090; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:10:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nezlok.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29203-02; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:10:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5D802AE05B; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:10:01 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20031116081001.5D802AE05B@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:10:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at unixathome.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2003-10-26 - 2003-11-15 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:10:23 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/ - practical examples FreshPorts - http://www.FreshPorts.org/ - the place for ports FreshSource - http://www.FreshSource.org/ - the place for source From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 10:12:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E0716A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:12:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from nature.Berkeley.EDU (nature.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.253.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D71643FAF for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:12:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gvrdolja@nature.Berkeley.EDU) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nature.Berkeley.EDU (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2506E26135D for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:12:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from nature.Berkeley.EDU ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nature.Berkeley.EDU [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12578-01 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:12:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by nature.Berkeley.EDU (Postfix, from userid 7458) id 39BD026136B; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:12:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nature.Berkeley.EDU (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF3926C24D for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:12:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:12:45 -0800 (PST) From: Gordon Vrololjak To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at nature.berkeley.edu Subject: updating question X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:12:54 -0000 Hello, I'm just starting to play with FreeBSD 5.1. I've set it up, but have a question about security updates. I am more familiar with redhat linux where I check for new rpm's on their update site and then install them using rpm. For BSD, I noticed they have a port collection, which you can update with cvsup. Also they have an errata section on the web where you can download and install security patches. I tried to install the cvs security patch, but after downloading, and following the instructions, it says context diff error... all the error output is below the text of this message. My main question is that I want to run a secure stable system on the internet, running ftp, apache httpd, and some other small apps. What is the method in BSD that I should be using to keep up with the updates/security issues? Thanks for your help. Any advice appreciated. Here is the full text of the error: freebsd# patch < /home/gordon/cvs.patch Hmm... Looks like a new-style context diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |Index: contrib/cvs/src/server.c |=================================================================== |RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/contrib/cvs/src/server.c,v |retrieving revision 1.13.2.2 |diff -c -r1.13.2.2 server.c |*** server.c 28 Oct 2001 21:32:10 -0000 1.13.2.2 |--- server.c 4 Feb 2003 13:16:15 -0000 -------------------------- File to patch: No file found--skip this patch? [n] y Skipping patch... Hunk #1 ignored at 984. Hunk #2 ignored at 999. Hunk #3 ignored at 4738. 3 out of 3 hunks ignored--saving rejects to server.c.rej done \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Gordon Ante Vrdoljak Electron Microscope Lab ICQ 23243541 http://nature.berkeley.edu/~gvrdolja 26 Giannini Hall gvrdolja@nature.berkeley.edu UC Berkeley phone (510) 642-2085 Berkeley CA 94720-3330 fax (510) 643-6207 cell (510) 290-6793 From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 19 06:36:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5F6D16A4CE for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:36:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mxsf17.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf17.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBE3843FA3 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:36:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pb1170@charter.net) Received: from 10.133.164.222 (c66.190.98.214.ts46v-01.rckwll.tx.charter.com [66.190.98.214])hAJEYFYL002089 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:34:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from pb1170@charter.net) From: Patrick Burnett To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Organization: Message-Id: <1069252323.9193.11.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2-3mdk Date: 19 Nov 2003 08:32:03 -0600 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Make commands X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:36:10 -0000 Greeting fellow newbies and vaunted list monitors. I'm trying to find something, a tutorial or whatever, that accurately describes what options go along with the "make" command, ergo 'make all install clean' or 'make deinstall', et al. All I'm finding are tutorials on how to build makefiles, which is good info, but not quite what I'm needing. Any tips?? Thanks for the help, Pat From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 19 07:02:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29BE016A4CE for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:02:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from web60104.mail.yahoo.com (web60104.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.118.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2BB6843FAF for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:02:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lonely_dwarf@yahoo.fr) Message-ID: <20031119150238.45890.qmail@web60104.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [192.54.193.25] by web60104.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:02:38 CET Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:02:38 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?villoing=20florian?= To: Patrick Burnett , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1069252323.9193.11.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Make commands X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:02:42 -0000 --- Patrick Burnett a écrit : > Greeting fellow newbies and vaunted list monitors. > > I'm trying to find something, a tutorial or > whatever, that accurately > describes what options go along with the "make" > command, ergo 'make all > install clean' or 'make deinstall', et al. All I'm > finding are > tutorials on how to build makefiles, which is good > info, but not quite > what I'm needing. > > Any tips?? > Both things are related since a Makefile is a script interpreted by the make program in which you specify different targets such as "make", "make install",... and what is to be done for each of them. As you mentioned "make install", "make deinstall", "make clean", I suppose you need information about how to install ports. If this is the case have a look at the handbook. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html > Thanks for the help, > Pat Florian ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en français ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 19 08:10:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2938016A4CE for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:10:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from twix.hotpop.com (twix.hotpop.com [204.57.55.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD4343FD7 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:10:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from harshad.sharma@hotpop.com) Received: from hotpop.com (kubrick.hotpop.com [204.57.55.16]) by twix.hotpop.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D9981A18D5E for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:05:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [61.1.88.182]) by smtp-3.hotpop.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 732D5A100A6 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:05:55 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Harshad Sharma To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:28:55 +0530 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200311191835.22302.harshad.sharma@bigfoot.com> X-HotPOP: ----------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com ----------------------------------------------- Subject: Support requested for Kernel Bug (ref: kernel/52383) X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:10:02 -0000 To: =09 The FreeBSD Developers Family, First of all let me thank you for the wonderful work that you are doing. I am a student of Computer Science doing my Bachelor in Computer Science. I am pretty new to the FreeBSD revolution, and hence am best described as a total newbie. I have installed FreeBSD 5.0 that I got with a book. My digital camera supports the UMASS mode and produces the following error when connected to the USB port. >=09umass0: Residue incorrect, was 0, should've been 512 I am aware that you have already addressed the bug (kern/52383) But I am unable to fix the bug as per the guidelines given in the report. I have tried to recompile the kernel with the following changes in the files and regenerated the headers as stated in "usbdevs": =09/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/umass.c >=09{ USB_VENDOR_NIKON, USB_PRODUCT_NIKON_DSC_E2000, RID_WILDCARD, > UMASS_PROTO_ATAPI | UMASS_PROTO_BBB, >=09 IGNORE_RESIDUE >=09}, =09/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/usbdevs >=09product NIKON DSC_E2000=09=090x8888=09Digital Camera E2000 I suspect that I am somehow not getting the product name correct and hence FreeBSD does not recognise the camera as the device stated above. Please can you guide me? I will be grateful to you for any help. Can you also please provide a valid hex number to be assigned to the above-mentioned product? The camera is Nikon's "CoolPix 2000". If I am supposed to send in more information, please let me know, I shall be glad to be of use to the team. Should I upgrade to the 5.1 current version to solve this problem? Is there any way to use the command line interface to ignore the residue since many such products may cause FreeBSD to cough out errors and it may not be practical to wait for adding quirks for every such device. Another query - is it possible to drop the USB support from the kernel and just compile the usb.ko and experiment with the code? I tried to comment-out the USB support but FreeBSD seems to ignore that. When I try to "kldload usb.ko" I get the message that the "kldload: can't load usb.ko: File exists". Or is it possible to compile only that part of the kernel which is change= d to bring the compilation time from 1 hour to a little lower? (My processo= r is 333MHz Pentium II.) Best of Luck for all your undertakings! With regards and admiration, Harshad Sharma harshad.sharma@hotpop.com http://www.harshadsharma.tk P.S. The dmesg output is attached below: Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 =09The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE #4: Tue Nov 18 20:41:50 IST 2003 hashu@localhost:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HASHU Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0xc06e0000. Preloaded elf module "/boot/kernel/acpi.ko" at 0xc06e00a8. Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 334092865 Hz CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (334.09-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0x650 Stepping =3D 0 =20 Features=3D0x183f9ff real memory =3D 134152192 (127 MB) avail memory =3D 122937344 (117 MB) Initializing GEOMetry subsystem Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard ACPI-0625: *** Info: GPE Block0 defined as GPE0 to GPE15 Using $PIR table, 5 entries at 0xc00fdd00 acpi0: power button is handled as a fixed feature programming model. Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x4008-0x400b on acpi0 acpi_cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0x5000-0x500f,0x4000-0x4041,0xcf8-0xcf= f on=20 acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0xe8000000-0xebffff= ff at=20 device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 = on=20 pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xe000-0xe01f irq 1= 0 at=20 device 7.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pci0: at device 7.3 (no driver attached) pcm0: port 0xe400-0xe4ff irq 11 at device 8.0 on pci0 fdc0: port=20 0x3f7,0x3f2-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 sio0 port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0 port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 orm0: From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 19 08:10:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C53416A4CE for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:10:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from twix.hotpop.com (twix.hotpop.com [204.57.55.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F56943F93 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from harshad.sharma@hotpop.com) Received: from hotpop.com (kubrick.hotpop.com [204.57.55.16]) by twix.hotpop.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 65DECA1B34F for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:06:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [61.1.88.182]) by smtp-3.hotpop.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CD5AA1B34F for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:06:00 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Harshad Sharma To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:40:35 +0530 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200311192131.24742.harshad.sharma@hotpop.com> X-HotPOP: ----------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com ----------------------------------------------- Subject: Support requested for Kernel Bug (ref: kernel/52383) X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:10:03 -0000 To: =09 The FreeBSD Developers Family, First of all let me thank you for the wonderful work that you are doing. I am a student of Computer Science doing my Bachelor in Computer Science. I am pretty new to the FreeBSD revolution, and hence am best described as a total newbie. I have installed FreeBSD 5.0 that I got with a book. My digital camera supports the UMASS mode and produces the following error when connected to the USB port. >=09umass0: Residue incorrect, was 0, should've been 512 I am aware that you have already addressed the bug (kern/52383) But I am unable to fix the bug as per the guidelines given in the report. I have tried to recompile the kernel with the following changes in the files and regenerated the headers as stated in "usbdevs": =09/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/umass.c >=09{ USB_VENDOR_NIKON, USB_PRODUCT_NIKON_DSC_E2000, RID_WILDCARD, > UMASS_PROTO_ATAPI | UMASS_PROTO_BBB, >=09 IGNORE_RESIDUE >=09}, =09/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/usbdevs >=09product NIKON DSC_E2000=09=090x8888=09Digital Camera E2000 I suspect that I am somehow not getting the product name correct and hence FreeBSD does not recognise the camera as the device stated above. Please can you guide me? I will be grateful to you for any help. Can you also please provide a valid hex number to be assigned to the above-mentioned product? The camera is Nikon's "CoolPix 2000". If I am supposed to send in more information, please let me know, I shall be glad to be of use to the team. Should I upgrade to the 5.1 current version to solve this problem? Is there any way to use the command line interface to ignore the residue since many such products may cause FreeBSD to cough out errors and it may not be practical to wait for adding quirks for every such device. Another query - is it possible to drop the USB support from the kernel and just compile the usb.ko and experiment with the code? I tried to comment-out the USB support but FreeBSD seems to ignore that. When I try to "kldload usb.ko" I get the message that the "kldload: can't load usb.ko: File exists". Or is it possible to compile only that part of the kernel which is change= d to bring the compilation time from 1 hour to a little lower? (My processo= r is 333MHz Pentium II.) Best of Luck for all your undertakings! With regards and admiration, Harshad Sharma harshad.sharma@hotpop.com http://www.harshadsharma.tk P.S. The dmesg output is attached below: Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 =09The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE #4: Tue Nov 18 20:41:50 IST 2003 hashu@localhost:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HASHU Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0xc06e0000. Preloaded elf module "/boot/kernel/acpi.ko" at 0xc06e00a8. Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 334092865 Hz CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (334.09-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0x650 Stepping =3D 0 =20 Features=3D0x183f9ff real memory =3D 134152192 (127 MB) avail memory =3D 122937344 (117 MB) Initializing GEOMetry subsystem Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard ACPI-0625: *** Info: GPE Block0 defined as GPE0 to GPE15 Using $PIR table, 5 entries at 0xc00fdd00 acpi0: power button is handled as a fixed feature programming model. Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x4008-0x400b on acpi0 acpi_cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0x5000-0x500f,0x4000-0x4041,0xcf8-0xcf= f on=20 acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0xe8000000-0xebffff= ff at=20 device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 = on=20 pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xe000-0xe01f irq 1= 0 at=20 device 7.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pci0: at device 7.3 (no driver attached) pcm0: port 0xe400-0xe4ff irq 11 at device 8.0 on pci0 fdc0: port=20 0x3f7,0x3f2-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 sio0 port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0 port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 orm0: From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 19 10:26:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F77516A4CE for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:26:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeus.acuson.com (ac17860.acuson.com [157.226.71.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AA9443FBD for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:26:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DavidJohnson@Siemens.com) Received: from mvaexch02 ([157.226.230.209]:1577 helo=mvaexch02.acuson.com) by zeus.acuson.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1AMX1q-0005Di-5L; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:26:14 -0800 Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:21:29 -0800 Received: from dhcp-46-145.acuson.com ([157.226.46.145]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2657.72) id VDNNF218; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:20:33 -0800 From: Johnson David To: Harshad Sharma , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Organization: Siemens Medical Systems Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:24:21 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <200311191835.22302.harshad.sharma@bigfoot.com> In-Reply-To: <200311191835.22302.harshad.sharma@bigfoot.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200311191024.21604.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> X-Scanner: exiscan for exim4 (http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/) *1AMX1q-0005Di-5L*o0dRo6bUvck* Subject: Re: Support requested for Kernel Bug (ref: kernel/52383) X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:26:22 -0000 On Wednesday 19 November 2003 07:58 am, Harshad Sharma wrote: > To: > The FreeBSD Developers Family, > > First of all let me thank you for the wonderful work that you are > doing. I am a student of Computer Science doing my Bachelor in > Computer Science. I am pretty new to the FreeBSD revolution, and > hence am best described as a total newbie. I have installed FreeBSD > 5.0 that I got with a book. My digital camera supports the UMASS mode > and produces the > following error when connected to the USB port. > > > umass0: Residue incorrect, was 0, should've been 512 You have sent this "support request" to the wrong mailing list. This is freebsd-newbies, which is essentially a place for newbies to chat with each other. Technical questions are inappropriate. Please resend to the freebsd-questions or the appropriate hardware list. Thank you, David Johnson From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 19 11:08:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0AB516A4CE for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:08:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (sea1-f155.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.163.155]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C706243F75 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:08:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from crollins666@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:08:43 -0800 Received: from 216.19.22.118 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:08:43 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.19.22.118] X-Originating-Email: [crollins666@hotmail.com] From: "clayton rollins" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:08:43 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Nov 2003 19:08:43.0983 (UTC) FILETIME=[8D13EDF0:01C3AED0] Subject: Technical/support questions on -newbies X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:08:46 -0000 Hi list, As I'm sure we've all noticed, a lot of questions get asked here that should be re-written, sent to -questions, and/or sent to -hackers. As pointed out in tha FAK, I believe there are monitors around who's responsibility it is to re-direct these misguided mails. I'm concerned, however, that it doesn't get done in quite a few cases. (I've redirected people who've been waiting a week for this small advice.) I know there are plenty of concerns here, like not wanting to be a prude, etc. There are more serious concerns on the other end, like wrong advice, or a person who never gets their question answered and walks away from the community, thinking we're all too stuck-up to talk to them. If there are monitors around, taking care of this, I would like to make two small requests, that their redirections/advice get CC'ed to the list, and, if possible, that these matters be taken care of faster than it currently seems to be done. In addition to saving me some trouble searching archives, this method might help to catch a new subscriber, before they ask a support question here. (I know the FAK is sent on a regular basis, but question/answer sessions are more frequent; a newbie might be confused by the list content.) If there aren't available people for this (or, if it's just Sue, and she wants help), I would be happy to take care of it. If anyone from the community wants to discuss this offer, to hash out guidelines for re-direction/advice, or whatever, contact me. Peace, Clayton Rollins _________________________________________________________________ Is there a gadget-lover on your gift list? MSN Shopping has lined up some good bets! http://shopping.msn.com From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 19 11:32:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 011EE16A4CE for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:32:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (sea1-f134.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.163.134]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48F6E43FCB for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:32:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from crollins666@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:32:48 -0800 Received: from 216.19.22.118 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:32:48 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.19.22.118] X-Originating-Email: [crollins666@hotmail.com] From: "clayton rollins" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:32:48 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Nov 2003 19:32:48.0925 (UTC) FILETIME=[EA5494D0:01C3AED3] Subject: Re: Technical/support questions on -newbies X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:32:50 -0000 I hate to reply to my own email, but I forgot a crucial part of what I wanted to say... On Nov. 19 "clayton rollins" wrote: >If there aren't available people for this (or, if it's just Sue, and >she wants help), I would be happy to take care of it. If anyone >from the community wants to discuss this offer, to hash out >guidelines for re-direction/advice, or whatever, contact me. Or, remove the section of the FAK that states "The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. ", and let the list take care of it. >Peace, >Clayton Rollins _________________________________________________________________ Set yourself up for fun at home! Get tips on home entertainment equipment, video game reviews, and more here. http://special.msn.com/home/homeent.armx From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 19 12:18:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C731216A4CE for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:18:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52C2A43FE3 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:18:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@welearn.com.au) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) hAJKIBV1019083 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 07:18:11 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hAJKIBsc019082 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 07:18:11 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 07:18:10 +1100 From: Sue Blake To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20031120071810.B749@welearn.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: Sue Blake , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from crollins666@hotmail.com on Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 07:08:43PM +0000 X-PGP-Fingerprint: E9A3 7B97 C563 DBB1 979E BC04 D2A2 9DA3 1274 7885 Subject: Re: Technical/support questions on -newbies X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:18:19 -0000 On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 07:08:43PM +0000, clayton rollins wrote: > Hi list, > > As I'm sure we've all noticed, a lot of questions get asked here > that should be re-written, sent to -questions, and/or sent to > -hackers. Oops, not to -hackers, just to -questions :-) FreeBSD-questions offers support for everybody, without exception, but -hackers is a collaboration space for FreeBSD develpers. They wouldn't like newbies straying over there for help. > As pointed out in tha FAK, I believe there are monitors around > who's responsibility it is to re-direct these misguided mails. Those "monitors" are the culturally advanced newbies, such as yourself. As a non-newbie, I don't really belong here, just as I don't belong in the -hackers community except as an observer. One of the most important roles of freebsd-newbies is to help people get in the swing of how our community works. In FreeBSD mailing lists, everyone is responsible for supporting the list charter, and whatever else the list is there to do. It's a community, not a service. One thing that's worse than asking help questions here is putting answers here! Do help out with advice on how to be a good community member or how to use the mailing lists or where to find self-help docco, but no FreeBSD support answers. There are a few reasons why it is important that answers NOT be sent to -newbies. Apart from being against the charter, it's also good to let -questions be the only archive to search for past answers. Also answers here just encourage more Q&A. Also if you know enough to answer, you should know better, and if you don't, you don't! Also -questions community checks answers, but here they are not checked, which is very bad for newbies confusion. Newbies need the best answers. If you don't want the people on -questions to see your answer, it is cruel to throw it at a newbie and other newbie onlookers. By all means, take it upon yourselves to help resolve this. We like to have everyone pitch in, that way there's no bosses and everyone belongs. Besides, I'm not around much these days, and -newbies was never meant to be where you're told what to do, beyond meeting the list charter. If newbies is not run by and for the community of newbies, it has failed. When a help question appears in -newbies I like to simply send my reply to -questions with a cc to the asker. They will then get a cc on any followup. Sending an extra copy to -newbies would be bad, it would encourage even more confusing discussion on -newbies, so don't do that. Remember to change the To:/Cc: header. Then if you see an unsanswered help request, maybe someone answered it elsewhere. You can check -questions. As we do for trolls, everyone needs to learn to silently ignore inappropriately posted questions. The whole group must do this to make it work. If an answer is not up to the srutiny of those on -questions, we certainly don't want that answer to be given to a newbie, at least not without peer review (like it gets in -questions). Most people genuinely want to help others, but some take it too far. We can't tolerate anyone playing "big fish" wannabee support guru in our pond. Some people will try that on, and it must be stopped. This is not a vehicle for showing the world how much you think you know, at newbies' expense! But it's quite OK to give your advice on -questions where your gems will be seen by thousands of adoring fans, and by helpful more experienced supporters. They always need more support helpers on -questions, and every newbie has something to offer. They will help you to become a better helper. Please, everyone pitch in to make -newbies work as it should. If it doesn't work out, we could lose this list one day. Remember who you're talking to, the really new people are very vulnerable and don't yet understand how we do things. Mistakes are easier to tolerate in -newbies than elsewhere. It's up to you all to tell them gently so they don't get a firmer reminder elsewhere, to show that we understand and to make them realise how much we like having them around. This is the first lesson in becoming a FreeBSD community member. It is yours to share, every one of you. Please do so. -- Regards, -*Sue*- Newbies List Aunty From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 19 12:21:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE8D416A4CE for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:21:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D689543F3F for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:21:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@welearn.com.au) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) hAJKLhV1019109; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 07:21:43 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hAJKLhGb019108; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 07:21:43 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 07:21:43 +1100 From: Sue Blake To: clayton rollins Message-ID: <20031120072143.C749@welearn.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: Sue Blake , clayton rollins , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from crollins666@hotmail.com on Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 07:32:48PM +0000 X-PGP-Fingerprint: E9A3 7B97 C563 DBB1 979E BC04 D2A2 9DA3 1274 7885 cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Technical/support questions on -newbies X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:21:49 -0000 On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 07:32:48PM +0000, clayton rollins wrote: > > I hate to reply to my own email, but I forgot a crucial part of what I > wanted to say... > > On Nov. 19 "clayton rollins" wrote: > > >If there aren't available people for this (or, if it's just Sue, and > >she wants help), I would be happy to take care of it. If anyone > >from the community wants to discuss this offer, to hash out > >guidelines for re-direction/advice, or whatever, contact me. > > Or, remove the section of the FAK that states "The best thing to > do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore > it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these > problems out privately. ", and let the list take care of it. OK, thanks, obviously it hasn't been happening quite that way and it could do with a small edit. -- Regards, -*Sue*- From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 19 12:44:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B3A916A4CE for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:44:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeus.acuson.com (ac17860.acuson.com [157.226.71.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36D4643FCB for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:44:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DavidJohnson@Siemens.com) Received: from mvaexch02 ([157.226.230.209]:1784 helo=mvaexch02.acuson.com) by zeus.acuson.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1AMZBu-00017k-5C; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:44:46 -0800 Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:40:00 -0800 Received: from dhcp-46-145.acuson.com ([157.226.46.145]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2657.72) id VDNNFKV5; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:39:05 -0800 From: Johnson David To: Sue Blake , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Organization: Siemens Medical Systems Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:42:54 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <20031120071810.B749@welearn.com.au> In-Reply-To: <20031120071810.B749@welearn.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200311191242.54419.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> X-Scanner: exiscan for exim4 (http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/) *1AMZBu-00017k-5C*W80m3skQjJA* Subject: Re: Technical/support questions on -newbies X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:44:52 -0000 On Wednesday 19 November 2003 12:18 pm, Sue Blake wrote: > Those "monitors" are the culturally advanced newbies, such as > yourself. As a non-newbie, I don't really belong here, just as I > ... Now I'm tempted to put "culturally advanced newbie" on my business cards and name plate :-) David From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 19 13:03:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BC6316A4CE for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:03:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (sea1-f95.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.163.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A99943FE3 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:03:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from crollins666@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:03:14 -0800 Received: from 216.19.22.118 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:03:13 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.19.22.118] X-Originating-Email: [crollins666@hotmail.com] From: "clayton rollins" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:03:13 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Nov 2003 21:03:14.0264 (UTC) FILETIME=[8C159D80:01C3AEE0] Subject: Re: Technical/support questions on -newbies X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:03:15 -0000 On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 Sue Blake wrote: >On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 07:08:43PM +0000, clayton rollins wrote: > > Hi list, > > > As I'm sure we've all noticed, a lot of questions get asked here > > that should be re-written, sent to -questions, and/or sent to > > -hackers. > >Oops, not to -hackers, just to -questions :-) >FreeBSD-questions offers support for everybody, without exception, >but -hackers is a collaboration space for FreeBSD develpers. >They wouldn't like newbies straying over there for help. Ok, here you might want to edit the -newbies *about* page (if you can). It states: "Support questions should be sent to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org. Technical questions should be sent to freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org. (NOT to the newbies list please)" (the one at http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies ) You're right, the majority of newbie questions would definitely not be welcome there :). I think I've seen a few device driver questions here that might be appropriate there. Even in that case, it would be safer to go through -questions first, to make sure it isn't a faq. Peace, Clayton PS. Thanks for giving me (us) a feeling of a little more control over whether or not I (we) should respond to these situations. Personally, I just didn't want to step on any toes. _________________________________________________________________ Need a shot of Hank Williams or Patsy Cline? The classic country stars are always singing on MSN Radio Plus. Try one month free! http://join.msn.com/?page=offers/premiumradio From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 19 16:05:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3440F16A4CE for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:05:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.covadmail.net (mx05.covadmail.net [63.65.120.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 158E343FAF for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:05:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from denyocum1@covad.net) Received: (covad.net 407 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2003 00:05:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dendesk) (66.134.132.186) by sun-qmail03 with SMTP; 20 Nov 2003 00:05:38 -0000 Message-ID: <007e01c3aefa$0e84d830$6501a8c0@dendesk> From: "Dennis M. Yocum" To: Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:05:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: newbee help on freebsd email server setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:05:45 -0000 hello still a newbee too i would like to ask a few questions in setting up my mailserver environment is simple.....intel based solely running freebsd 4.7 right = now wnd sendmail 8.12.6 and qpopper 4.0.4 all are running without error.....i think the host command is replying correctly my remote dns service a and mx records are fine ping to the name resolves correctly host-names file modified with names inetd running modules without error messages mailserver sees internet ok here is the problem i cant track down.....when i send mail to an account = set up on mailserver (thru adduser)=20 and using an remote source email server.....when i use a pc through = windows 2000 running outlook express i cannot retrieve the mail...it = comes back with error message 550 host unknown.... can anyone steer me in the right direction.....checked freebsd = handbook....freebsd in 24 hours....and usual sites faq... thanks den From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 19 16:43:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B5F16A4CE; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:43:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (sea1-f116.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.163.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59D0943F93; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:43:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from crollins666@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:43:38 -0800 Received: from 216.19.22.118 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:43:37 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.19.22.118] X-Originating-Email: [crollins666@hotmail.com] From: "clayton rollins" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:43:37 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Nov 2003 00:43:38.0256 (UTC) FILETIME=[5632A900:01C3AEFF] cc: denyocum1@covad.net cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Fwd: newbee help on freebsd email server setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:43:39 -0000 This belongs on -questions; forwarding there. (To Dennis: you don't need to worry about registering to -questions, as you should be CC'ed any replies. You might want to read the style guide here: http://www.lemis.com/email.html and the general guide here: http://www.lemis.com/questions.html .) Original Message Nov. 19, 2003 "Dennis M. Yocum" wrote hello still a newbee too i would like to ask a few questions in setting up my mailserver environment is simple.....intel based solely running freebsd 4.7 right now wnd sendmail 8.12.6 and qpopper 4.0.4 all are running without error.....i think the host command is replying correctly my remote dns service a and mx records are fine ping to the name resolves correctly host-names file modified with names inetd running modules without error messages mailserver sees internet ok here is the problem i cant track down.....when i send mail to an account set up on mailserver (thru adduser) and using an remote source email server.....when i use a pc through windows 2000 running outlook express i cannot retrieve the mail...it comes back with error message 550 host unknown.... can anyone steer me in the right direction.....checked freebsd handbook....freebsd in 24 hours....and usual sites faq... thanks den _________________________________________________________________ Gift-shop online from the comfort of home at MSN Shopping! No crowds, free parking. http://shopping.msn.com From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 11:33:30 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7BD616A4CF for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:33:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (bay1-dav60.bay1.hotmail.com [65.54.244.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249E643F93 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:33:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ajaxmunroe@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:33:27 -0800 Received: from 69.14.9.79 by bay1-dav60.bay1.hotmail.com with DAV; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:33:27 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [69.14.9.79] X-Originating-Email: [ajaxmunroe@hotmail.com] From: "Ajax Munroe" To: Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:33:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Nov 2003 19:33:27.0730 (UTC) FILETIME=[2BDF8120:01C3AF9D] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:33:31 -0000 Friends, I have tried to install Freebsd on my laptop at least twelve = times, the only problem I encounter is with xfree86. here is a quick = rundown of the scenario: everything goes as planned until I reboot, then = type startx and each time I get the same error message (xfree86 crashed) = well, not in those exact words but you get the message. I have read as = much documentation as I could as far as Freebsd and the x-window-system = are concerned. here are the specs on the laptop I desperatly want to = install Freebsd on: =20 IBM T21. 2647-8BU Generic flatpanel LCD monitor 1024 = X 768 8 MB video memory Savage IX driver <(BSD detects = this) TFT-active matrix 14.1 in. Please, If someone could just email me a little more = information on how to set the specifications for X on my model I would = greatly appreciate it.=20 = Thank you for producing FREEBSD! = ajaxmunroe@yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 12:10:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B1E16A4CE for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:10:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from server.rucus.ru.ac.za (server.rucus.ru.ac.za [146.231.115.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D942C43FE3 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:10:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oxo@rucus.ru.ac.za) Received: (qmail 28038 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2003 20:10:28 -0000 Received: from shell-em0.rucus.ru.ac.za (oxo@10.0.0.1) by server-em0.rucus.ru.ac.za with QMQP; 20 Nov 2003 20:10:28 -0000 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:10:28 +0200 From: John Oxley To: Ajax Munroe Message-ID: <20031120201028.GD35131@rucus.ru.ac.za> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:10:38 -0000 On Thu 2003-11-20 (14:33), Ajax Munroe wrote: > Friends, > > I have tried to install Freebsd on my laptop at least twelve times, the only problem I encounter is with xfree86. here is a quick rundown of the scenario: everything goes as planned until I reboot, then type startx and each time I get the same error message (xfree86 crashed) well, not in those exact words but you get the message. I have read as much documentation as I could as far as Freebsd and the x-window-system are concerned. here are the specs on the laptop I desperatly want to install Freebsd on: > > IBM T21. > 2647-8BU > Generic flatpanel LCD monitor 1024 X 768 > 8 MB video memory > Savage IX driver <(BSD detects this) > TFT-active matrix > 14.1 in. > > Please, If someone could just email me a little more information on how to set the specifications for X on my model I would greatly appreciate it. If you would paste the error message that X displays on the standard output when it crashes, it might help us out a bit. To configure X, the tool that works best for me is xf86config, but you might also try xf86cfg or 'X -configure' but YMMV. wrt to your emails, please could you set your editor to wrap at 64 characters. -Ox -- /~\ The ASCII ASCII stupid question, get a EBCDIC ANSI. \ / Ribbon Campaign John Oxley X Against HTML http://oxo.rucus.net/ / \ Email! oxo rucus.ru.ac.za "Personally, I'd rather pay for my freedom than live in a bitmapped, pop-up-happy dungeon like NT." -- Thomas Scoville From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 12:22:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8B8416A4CE for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:22:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mclean.mail.mindspring.net (mclean.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E03BC43FDF for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:22:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ron@bouncebk.com) Received: from user-119ajn2.biz.mindspring.com ([66.149.78.226] helo=bouncebk.com) by mclean.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AMvKC-0000lQ-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:22:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBD228F.3070603@bouncebk.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:22:39 -0600 From: RonMcCy User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:22:50 -0000 Ajax Munroe wrote: >Friends, > > I have tried to install Freebsd on my laptop at least twelve times, the only problem I encounter is with xfree86. here is a quick rundown of the scenario: everything goes as planned until I reboot, then type startx and each time I get the same error message (xfree86 crashed) well, not in those exact words but you get the message. I have read as much documentation as I could as far as Freebsd and the x-window-system are concerned. here are the specs on the laptop I desperatly want to install Freebsd on: > > IBM T21. > 2647-8BU > Generic flatpanel LCD monitor 1024 X 768 > 8 MB video memory > Savage IX driver <(BSD detects this) > TFT-active matrix > 14.1 in. > > Please, If someone could just email me a little more information on how to set the specifications for X on my model I would greatly appreciate it. > > Thank you for producing FREEBSD! ajaxmunroe@yahoo.com >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > You say that BSD is detecting your video card....this is good....but.... I've had problems too if the display is not set up right or the color depth is wrong. I've configuring Xfree through stand/sysinstall and then Configure. You can set Vertical and Horizontal freq. there as well as color depth. Good Luck. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 16:09:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 743EB16A4CE for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:09:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail002.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail002.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077EA43FEA for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:09:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from schofieldp@optusnet.com.au) Received: from optusnet.com.au (c210-49-85-180.rochd3.qld.optusnet.com.au [210.49.85.180]) (authenticated)hAL08wW02443 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:08:58 +1100 Message-ID: <3FBD57CE.5010804@optusnet.com.au> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:09:50 +1000 From: Paul Schofield User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20031001 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.76.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:09:01 -0000 Ajax Munroe wrote: >Friends, > > I have tried to install Freebsd on my laptop at least twelve times, the only problem I encounter is with xfree86. here is a quick rundown of the scenario: everything goes as planned until I reboot, then type startx and each time I get the same error message (xfree86 crashed) well, not in those exact words but you get the message. I have read as much documentation as I could as far as Freebsd and the x-window-system are concerned. here are the specs on the laptop I desperatly want to install Freebsd on: > > IBM T21. > 2647-8BU > Generic flatpanel LCD monitor 1024 X 768 > 8 MB video memory > Savage IX driver <(BSD detects this) > TFT-active matrix > 14.1 in. > > Please, If someone could just email me a little more information on how to set the specifications for X on my model I would greatly appreciate it. > > Thank you for producing FREEBSD! ajaxmunroe@yahoo.com >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > I run Linux on a T20 which is the same as a T21 with a slower cpu. Here are my XF86Config sections for device, screen and server layout. Hope this helps. # ********************************************************************** # Device sections # ********************************************************************** Section "Device" Option "HWCursor" Option "UseBIOS" Option "ShadowStatus" Identifier "S3 Savage (generic)" Driver "savage" VendorName "S3" BoardName "Savage/IX-MV" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Screen sections # ********************************************************************** Section "Screen" Identifier "screen1" Device "S3 Savage (generic)" Monitor "Generic|Generic LCD Panel 1024x768" DefaultColorDepth 24 Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x400" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 32 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Server Layout sections # ********************************************************************** Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "layout1" Screen 0 "screen1" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 16:33:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0005E16A4CE for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:33:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5D4F43FEC for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:32:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from ec.rr.com (cpe-024-211-231-149.ec.rr.com [24.211.231.149]) hAL0Wwse005687; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:32:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3FBC6013.30907@ec.rr.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 01:32:51 -0500 From: Jason User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031205 Thunderbird/0.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Schofield References: <3FBD57CE.5010804@optusnet.com.au> In-Reply-To: <3FBD57CE.5010804@optusnet.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:33:01 -0000 Paul Schofield wrote: > Ajax Munroe wrote: > >> Friends, >> >> I have tried to install Freebsd on my laptop at least twelve >> times, the only problem I encounter is with xfree86. here is a quick >> rundown of the scenario: everything goes as planned until I reboot, >> then type startx and each time I get the same error message (xfree86 >> crashed) well, not in those exact words but you get the message. I >> have read as much documentation as I could as far as Freebsd and the >> x-window-system are concerned. here are the specs on the laptop I >> desperatly want to install Freebsd on: >> IBM T21. >> 2647-8BU >> Generic flatpanel LCD monitor >> 1024 X 768 >> 8 MB video memory >> Savage IX driver <(BSD detects >> this) >> TFT-active matrix >> 14.1 in. >> >> Please, If someone could just email me a little more >> information on how to set the specifications for X on my model I >> would greatly appreciate it. >> >> Thank you for producing FREEBSD! ajaxmunroe@yahoo.com >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> >> > I run Linux on a T20 which is the same as a T21 with a slower cpu. > Here are my XF86Config sections for device, screen and server layout. > Hope this helps. > > # ********************************************************************** > # Device sections > # ********************************************************************** > > Section "Device" > Option "HWCursor" > Option "UseBIOS" > Option "ShadowStatus" > Identifier "S3 Savage (generic)" > Driver "savage" > VendorName "S3" > BoardName "Savage/IX-MV" > BusID "PCI:1:0:0" > EndSection > > # ********************************************************************** > # Screen sections > # ********************************************************************** > > Section "Screen" > Identifier "screen1" > Device "S3 Savage (generic)" > Monitor "Generic|Generic LCD Panel 1024x768" > DefaultColorDepth 24 Chang to DefaultDepth 24 > Subsection "Display" > Depth 8 > Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x400" > ViewPort 0 0 > EndSubsection > Subsection "Display" > Depth 16 > Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > ViewPort 0 0 > EndSubsection > Subsection "Display" > Depth 24 > Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > ViewPort 0 0 > EndSubsection > Subsection "Display" > Depth 32 > Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > ViewPort 0 0 > EndSubsection > EndSection > > # ********************************************************************** > # Server Layout sections > # ********************************************************************** > > Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "layout1" > Screen 0 "screen1" 0 0 > InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer" > InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard" > EndSection > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Were there any errors msgs? From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 19:08:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6DE116A4CF for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:08:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bedog1.net (mail.bedog1.net [141.151.225.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D5ED43FE1 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:08:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stewart@mail.bedog1.net) Received: from bedog1.net (ras2_port1.bedog1.net [141.151.235.1]) id hAL3C7t02180 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:12:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBD81B1.8070707@bedog1.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:08:33 -0500 From: Ed Stewart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030225 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Hi X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 03:08:37 -0000 Hello, My name is Ed and I am new to this list and also new to FreeBSD, I have a good bit of linux experence and so far it has helped although I have had a rough time getting the install done right and to get X working like I want. Later, Ed -- This email composed using RedHat Linux 9.0 Linux: Limited only by your imagination and your ability to learn. In God we trust! Check out our linux group's website http://www.bedog1.net/~catawbapath/ From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 19:31:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544D316A4CE for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:31:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.richardflanagan.com.au (gateway.richardflanagan.com.au [203.149.71.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DD8243FD7 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:31:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from akozak@richardflanagan.com.au) Received: from akozak (akozak.richardflanagan.com.au [192.168.0.21]) by mail.richardflanagan.com.au (Postfix) with SMTP id 7364D218C0A; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:32:54 +1000 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3FBD897A.000005.01168@akozak> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:41:46 +1000 Content-Type: Multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_MLNO6RO0000000000000" X-Mailer: IncrediMail (2001184) From: "Andrew Kozak" References: <3FBD81B1.8070707@bedog1.net> X-FID: PLAINTXT-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-Priority: 3 To: X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: FreeBSD Newbies Subject: Re: Hi X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 03:31:15 -0000 --------------Boundary-00=_MLNO6RO0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hiya Ed=0D =0D Best send this one of to -questions, there has been some heated debate ov= er this issue in here this week :) Also, what is the problem you are having = ? You will need to list your error log, let us know what's happening and th= e output of uname -a helps too. (we don't help out much in here, mostly cau= se we are all newbies and prolly will give the wrong advice anyway, even tho= ugh all mails are answered with best intentions, the people at -questions are heaps more experienced than us at this stuff - this channel is mostly cha= t and sharing experiences)=0D =0D BTW, welcome to the community. It can be a little frustrating at first, b= ut my experince has been - It's worth it. Great OS.=0D =0D Cheers=0D Andy=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: Ed Stewart=0D Date: Friday, 21 November 2003 01:12:16 PM=0D To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org=0D Subject: Hi=0D =0D Hello, My name is Ed and I am new to this list and also new to FreeBSD,=0D I have a good bit of linux experence and so far it has helped although I=0D have had a rough time getting the install done right and to get X=0D working like I want. Later, Ed=0D --=0D This email composed using RedHat Linux 9.0=0D Linux: Limited only by your imagination and your ability to learn.=0D In God we trust!=0D Check out our linux group's website http://www.bedog1.net/~catawbapath/=0D =0D _______________________________________________=0D freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list=0D http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies=0D To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= "=0D =0D =2E --------------Boundary-00=_MLNO6RO0000000000000-- From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 20:08:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94D8216A4CE for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:08:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (sea1-f114.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.163.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF0843FD7 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:08:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from crollins666@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:08:03 -0800 Received: from 216.19.22.118 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 04:08:03 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.19.22.118] X-Originating-Email: [crollins666@hotmail.com] From: "clayton rollins" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 04:08:03 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Nov 2003 04:08:03.0742 (UTC) FILETIME=[0F690BE0:01C3AFE5] cc: stewart@mail.bedog1.net Subject: Re: Hi X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 04:08:04 -0000 On Nov, 20, 2003 "Andrew Kozak" wrote: >Hiya Ed > >Best send this one of to -questions, there has been some heated debate over >this issue in here this week :) Also, what is the problem you are having ? >You will need to list your error log, let us know what's happening and the >output of uname -a helps too. (we don't help out much in here, mostly cause >we are all newbies and prolly will give the wrong advice anyway, even >though >all mails are answered with best intentions, the people at -questions are >heaps more experienced than us at this stuff - this channel is mostly chat >and sharing experiences) > >BTW, welcome to the community. It can be a little frustrating at first, but >my experince has been - It's worth it. Great OS. > >Cheers >Andy > >-------Original Message------- > >From: Ed Stewart >Date: Friday, 21 November 2003 01:12:16 PM >To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org >Subject: Hi > >Hello, My name is Ed and I am new to this list and also new to FreeBSD, >I have a good bit of linux experence and so far it has helped although I >have had a rough time getting the install done right and to get X >working like I want. Later, Ed Hi Ed, First off, welcome to the community. We all (I'm sure) hope you're pleased with the product and services offered by FreeBSD, and hope you'll eventually become a member of the (our) community. About sysinstall and the various XFConfig tools, they can be a pain during that first install; once you get used to them, you'll be installing on all sorts of hardware :). Of course, if you have a few months/years free, you could update these tools. (Just kidding, mostly. If you really are interested in such, there was a session on freebsd-hackers discussing the problems and workable solutions a few months ago. Search the archive here: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/ .) Of course, as Andy pointed out, if you're hoping for technical support you'll have to write -questions, and you'll have to include more info. (Generally, you should send at least the full error from the command line and any relevant text from the log.) Bottom line: A Big Fat Welcome. Peace, Clayton Rollins _________________________________________________________________ Share holiday photos without swamping your Inbox. Get MSN Extra Storage now! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 20:25:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B316216A4CE for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:25:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns1.stormbox.net (security.officer.stormbox.net [202.136.6.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9FD543FF3 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:25:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from djstudio@ittalk.org) Received: from ad202.166.31.39.magix.com.sg ([202.166.31.39] helo=planetsghome) by ns1.stormbox.net with asmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AN2qT-0001od-Rj for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:24:37 +0800 Message-ID: <042301c3b06d$da148e90$041da6ca@planetsghome> From: "-+= RiCHaRd =+-" To: Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:27:14 -0800 Organization: www.stormbox.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ns1.stormbox.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ittalk.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: cvs X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: -+= RiCHaRd =+- List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 04:25:45 -0000 i would like to know the cvs commands to update the binaries of Freebsd = 3.0< and a url of a list of cvs servers would be appreciated thanks richard From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 08:27:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E9C316A4CE for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:27:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from web21504.mail.yahoo.com (web21504.mail.yahoo.com [66.163.169.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8413843FEA for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:27:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from than_shwe2003@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20031120162726.73208.qmail@web21504.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.122.18.213] by web21504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:27:26 PST Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:27:26 -0800 (PST) From: KHIN KHIN To: FreeBSD-Newbies@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 04:55:10 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: I am learning about FreeBSD. X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:27:28 -0000 I am from Myanmar.Internet is expensive in my country. So I am only using Government web mail. I am really interested in OS. That's why I really want to lear FreeBSD. Reply me smk007@mail4u.com.mm --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 21 05:03:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38E8516A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:03:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from 194-185-53-242.f5.ngi.it (194-185-53-242.f5.ngi.it [194.185.53.242]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80C5443FDF for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:03:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@remotelab.org) Received: from remotelab.org (einstein.lab [192.168.168.2]) hALD3Npc020066; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:03:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mark@remotelab.org) Message-ID: <3FBE0D1B.8040703@remotelab.org> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:03:23 +0100 From: Marco Trentini User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031013 Thunderbird/0.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: smk007@mail4u.com.mm References: <20031120162726.73208.qmail@web21504.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031120162726.73208.qmail@web21504.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD-Newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I am learning about FreeBSD. X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: mark@remotelab.org List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:03:31 -0000 KHIN KHIN wrote: > I am from Myanmar.Internet is expensive in my country. So I am only using Government web mail. I am really interested in OS. That's why I really want to lear FreeBSD. > > Reply me smk007@mail4u.com.mm Hi, the FreeBSD Handbook is a good starting point. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html Good luck! -- Marco Trentini mark@remotelab.org http://www.remotelab.org/ From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 21 06:10:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B66C16A4CE; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 06:10:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE03743FAF; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 06:10:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.no-ip.com ([66.30.200.37]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2003112114100401400oqftke>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:10:04 +0000 Received: by be-well.no-ip.com (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 285523A; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:10:04 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, denyocum1@covad.net, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 21 Nov 2003 09:10:04 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <444qwxizib.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 11 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Fwd: newbee help on freebsd email server setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:10:05 -0000 > here is the problem i cant track down.....when i send mail to an > account set up on mailserver (thru adduser) and using an remote > source email server.....when i use a pc through windows 2000 > running outlook express i cannot retrieve the mail...it comes back > with error message 550 host unknown.... Outlook Express is probably trying to use POP or some other mailbox protocol (maybe IMAP) to download the messages. Sendmail has nothing to do with it at this level; you need a POP server to allow POP downloading of messages. There are several in the ports system. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 21 09:47:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B7C516A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:47:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from scanmail3.cableone.net (scanmail3.cableone.net [24.116.0.123]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56DFC43FE1 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:47:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lute@cableone.net) Received: from scanmail3.cableone.net ([10.116.0.123]) by scanmail3.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:47:35 -0700 Received: from scanmail3.cableone.net [24.116.0.123] by scanmail3.cableone.net (SMTPD32-7.04) id A1A7DE600B6; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:47:35 -0700 Received: from agnes (24-116-60-169.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.60.169]) by mail.cableone.net with SMTP (MailShield v2.04 - WIN32 Jul 17 2001 17:12:42); Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:47:34 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:54:08 -0600 From: Lute Mullenix To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, smk007@mail4u.com.mm Message-Id: <20031121105408.0efafeab.lute@cableone.net> In-Reply-To: <20031120162726.73208.qmail@web21504.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031120162726.73208.qmail@web21504.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.6claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SMTP-HELO: agnes X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: lute@cableone.net X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: 24-116-60-169.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.60.169] Subject: Re: I am learning about FreeBSD. X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:47:47 -0000 On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:27:26 -0800 (PST) KHIN KHIN insisted: > > I am from Myanmar.Internet is expensive in my country. So I am only > using Government web mail. I am really interested in OS. That's why > I really want to learn FreeBSD. > > Reply me smk007@mail4u.com.mm > > Hi, I see that someone already suggested the handbook, which is free and available online, so you can download it, or if you choose the option have it installed on your hard drive when you install FreeBSD. The book that really got me up to speed with FreeBSD though is the one listed below. FreeBSD An Open-Source Operating System For Your Personal Computer, written by Annelise Anderson. I wish you the best of luck. -- Lute ************************ * Power Provided * * by * * FreeBSD 5.1 RELEASE * ************************ From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 21 17:56:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F7EB16A4D0 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:56:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx69.mysite4now.com (mx69.mysite4now.com [216.250.116.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5279743FF3 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:56:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kblists@mazenalzogbi.com) Received: from [217.164.209.158] by mx69.mysite4now.com [216.250.116.69] with SmartMax MailMax for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:49:06 -0800 X-SmartMax-AuthUser: From: "Mazen S. Alzogbi" To: Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 01:55:13 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Thread-Index: AcOvsPmDIRpCQbiiT46R5kiIuwmNKg== Message-ID: <1069364948.17410@mx69.mysite4now.com> Subject: Total newbie: What's after installation? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 01:56:12 -0000 Hi, It's my first time using FreeBSD so wish me luck! :) I installed the OS, logged on as "root" and I have now the prompt in front of me, now what? I installed Gnome but the system didn't reboot using the Gnome interface. How can I make it do that? TIA, -Mazen From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 21 18:21:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0226616A4CE; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:21:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1847F43F75; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:21:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from daleco.biz ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:24:32 -0600 Message-ID: <3FBEC834.9030303@daleco.biz> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:21:40 -0600 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030920 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Mazen S. Alzogbi" References: <1069364948.17410@mx69.mysite4now.com> In-Reply-To: <1069364948.17410@mx69.mysite4now.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Nov 2003 02:24:32.0828 (UTC) FILETIME=[C3D487C0:01C3B09F] cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Total newbie: What's after installation? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 02:21:41 -0000 [cross-posted in attempt to change forums....] Mazen S. Alzogbi wrote: >Hi, >It's my first time using FreeBSD so wish me luck! :) > >I installed the OS, logged on as "root" and I have now the prompt in front >of me, now what? I installed Gnome but the system didn't reboot using the >Gnome interface. > Luck is heretofore wished! And, if you've much experience with other CLI environments, prepare yourself for one that's rich with possibilities, even without a GUI. I can read the web, write docs, e-mail, listen to CD's or mp3, without my GUI if I wish. And try 'host xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx' on that "other system" from Redmond! (/me grins evilly) >How can I make it do that? > >TIA, > >-Mazen > > > There's been some discussion lately about asking questions on -newbies instead of -questions. I'm trying to move your your message there, also. But I'll give it a shot. If you've done your XFree configuration, you might try $startx This will process your ~/.xinitrc file, and at the very least should start the X Window system. Placing the line: exec gnome-session at the end of .xinitrc is one way to start the Gnome environment. You can use this file to start anything you wish when X starts ... other WM's, or specific X windows programs, including there geometry and other options.... GDM or any number of other various "DM's" (display managers) that run under X (kdm, xdm, etc.) would be another way of getting things going. I don't use a graphic display manager. "startx" from the shell's always been good enough for me. Or, if you want, you could modify your ~/.login to run "startx", which in turn would run a Gnome-session if so ordered by .xinitrc .... Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 21 18:25:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B3816A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:25:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from web40609.mail.yahoo.com (web40609.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.78.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B76F343FEA for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:25:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from patterner@rocketmail.com) Message-ID: <20031122022534.38474.qmail@web40609.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.19.10.119] by web40609.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:25:34 PST Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:25:34 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Readle To: "Mazen S. Alzogbi" , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1069364948.17410@mx69.mysite4now.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Total newbie: What's after installation? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: patterner@rocketmail.com List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 02:25:36 -0000 First thing's first, create a user besides root and use that user to log in. The command for this is "adduser". To find out more about the command use "man adduser". Second, once you've created the new user, log in with it and type "startx" which should bring you into your Gnome interface if it's been installed correctly. Third, read the Handbook, live the Handbook, BE the Handbook. :) chris --- "Mazen S. Alzogbi" wrote: > Hi, > It's my first time using FreeBSD so wish me luck! :) > > I installed the OS, logged on as "root" and I have now the prompt in > front > of me, now what? I installed Gnome but the system didn't reboot using > the > Gnome interface. How can I make it do that? > > TIA, > > -Mazen > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 21 19:10:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F66516A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:10:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9B9243FB1 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:10:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (sue@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAM3A9FY052590 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:10:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id hAM3A9N4052584 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:10:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:10:09 -0800 (PST) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <200311220310.hAM3A9N4052584@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies FAK X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 03:10:10 -0000 FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://people.freebsd.org/~sue/newbies/fak.html FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. It is particularly important to send all installation questions and answers to FreeBSD-Questions so that they only appear in one place. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for FreeBSD help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. We can help people to use the FreeBSD mailing lists and resources, or to interact more productively with the broader FreeBSD community. These are not support questions, and not technical, so we deal with them here. Everyone can help with these new user orientation requests. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ Mailing list membership To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Use the easy form at http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies to subscribe to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list, or to change your subscription details if you are already a member. To Unsubscribe from FreeBSD-Newbies: To stop receiving list emails, simply follow the unsubscribe link that appears at the bottom of each email you receive from the mailing list. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org is distributed to all members of the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 21 21:10:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22C9616A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:10:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C588C43F93 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:10:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-newbies@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ANQ2X-00072T-00 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 06:10:37 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from sea.gmane.org ([80.91.224.252]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ANPka-0006tl-00 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 05:52:04 +0100 Received: from news by sea.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ANPka-0002G9-00 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 05:52:04 +0100 From: Robert S Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:52:03 +1100 Organization: Home Lines: 13 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.2 Sender: news Subject: Boot with kdm - keyboard won't work X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: robert_s@emailme.net.au List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 05:10:41 -0000 I've just installed a spanking new installation of FreeBSD 5.1 on my system. All went without a hitch EXCEPT I have configured kdm to start from /etc/rc.local. This file looks like this: #!/bin/sh /usr/local/bin/kdm If I let my system start up, it gets into the kdm screen, but nothing will happen when I use the keyboard! This includes entering username, password, and using ctrl-alt-number combinations. If I boot into safe mode, remount / as read-write then enter # kdm, everything works fine! I've been using linux for some time but have never seen this one before. Any ideas? From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 21 21:59:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AE8F16A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:59:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (bay1-dav30.bay1.hotmail.com [65.54.244.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BD1743FDD for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:59:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from taca98@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:59:35 -0800 Received: from 66.92.99.129 by bay1-dav30.bay1.hotmail.com with DAV; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 05:59:34 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [66.92.99.129] X-Originating-Email: [taca98@hotmail.com] From: "kanematsu" To: Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 00:59:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Nov 2003 05:59:35.0016 (UTC) FILETIME=[CE222E80:01C3B0BD] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: clock runs very fast on 5.1R X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: kanematsu List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 05:59:36 -0000 Clock on my server runs very fast. It is about twice faster,=20 and I think it is not good for a server. I'm running 5.1R. =20 The problem did not occur under 4.4R, 4.7R, or 4.8R=20 on the same PC. I know FreeBSD doesn't read time=20 from CMOS Clock. Right after rebooting the machine,=20 date command shows me a correct time because of=20 xntpd in rc.conf. The PC has AMD 350 MHz IBM Aptiva. =20 I pasted information of Timercounter =1B$B!H=1B(Bi8254=1B$B!I=1B(B and = =1B$B!H=1B(BTSC=1B$B!I=1B(B=20 from dmesg.today below. =20 Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights = reserved. FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE #15: Thu Nov 20 00:54:10 EST 2003 root@abc.abc.com:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/KERNELABC Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0xc043c000. Preloaded elf module "/boot/kernel/acpi.ko" at 0xc043c1cc. Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 349180042 Hz CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (349.18-MHz 586-class CPU) =20 I added each line below on my kernel and configured as someone=20 suggested me but it didn=1B$B!G=1B(Bt work.=20 =20 #options CLK_USE_TSC_CALIBRATION =20 =20 #options TIMER_FREQ=3D2359004 =20 #options CLK_USE_i8254_CALIBRATION =20 =20 Also, someone suggested me that I might modify clock.c file in=20 /usr/src/sys/i386/isa/ but I didn=1B$B!G=1B(Bt know how to modify it. =20 Does anyone have any idea or know where should I ask? Kanematsu From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 22 07:21:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB98016A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 07:21:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mxsf16.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf16.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEBFD43FBD for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 07:21:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mbueide@charter.net) Received: from mbueide ([68.114.183.41])hAMFIjHA067758; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:18:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mbueide@charter.net) Received: by mbueide (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:12:04 -0700 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:12:04 -0700 From: mike bueide To: Sue Blake Message-ID: <20031122151204.GA9128@charter.net> Mail-Followup-To: Sue Blake , Newbies References: <20031120071810.B749@welearn.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031120071810.B749@welearn.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: Newbies Subject: Re: Technical/support questions on -newbies X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:21:33 -0000 On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 07:18:10AM +1100, Sue Blake wrote: > On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 07:08:43PM +0000, clayton rollins wrote: > > Hi list, > > > > As I'm sure we've all noticed, a lot of questions get asked here > > that should be re-written, sent to -questions, and/or sent to > > -hackers. > > > When a help question appears in -newbies I like to simply send my > reply to -questions with a cc to the asker. They will then > get a cc on any followup. Sending an extra copy to -newbies > would be bad, it would encourage even more confusing > discussion on -newbies, so don't do that. Remember to change > the To:/Cc: header. Then if you see an unsanswered help request, > maybe someone answered it elsewhere. You can check -questions. > As we do for trolls, everyone needs to learn to silently ignore > inappropriately posted questions. The whole group must do this > to make it work. Suppose two or three "monitors" followed this advise at the same time. Would two or three copies of the original message appearing on -questions be appreciated? Perhaps just responding privately to the original poster to redirect their query to -questions is the best route. > Please, everyone pitch in to make -newbies work as it should. > If it doesn't work out, we could lose this list one day. > Remember who you're talking to, the really new people are very > vulnerable and don't yet understand how we do things. Mistakes are > easier to tolerate in -newbies than elsewhere. It's up to you all > to tell them gently so they don't get a firmer reminder elsewhere, > to show that we understand and to make them realize how much we > like having them around. Well said. -- Michael Bueide * Gering, Nebraska mbueide (at) charter (dot) net . From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 22 09:46:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8566616A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:46:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from freenet2.afn.org (freenet2.afn.org [128.227.163.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8912943FB1 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:46:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from afn49349@afn.org) Received: from freenet1.afn.org (freenet1.afn.org [128.227.163.11]) by freenet2.afn.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMHkGQ32312 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:46:16 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:46:16 -0500 (EST) From: LM To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: SCSI DVD-R X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:46:18 -0000 Does anyone know of a company still making SCSI DVD-R units? I have a SCSI CD-R and it works beautifully with FreeBSD. Would like to add a DVD-R and I definitely want to use a SCSI connection. Any products I've located on the web all say out of stock. Does anyone know where to purchase a SCSI DVD-R? Help in locating one would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 22 12:17:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53AB816A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:17:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from web40613.mail.yahoo.com (web40613.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.78.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 96F2F43FCB for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:17:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from patterner@rocketmail.com) Message-ID: <20031122201733.41323.qmail@web40613.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.101.101.61] by web40613.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:17:33 PST Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:17:33 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Readle To: "Mazen S. Alzogbi" , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20031122022534.38474.qmail@web40609.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Total newbie: What's after installation? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: patterner@rocketmail.com List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:17:36 -0000 Doh, I didn't notice the message was on newbies....my apologies to all. *chagrined smile* chris --- Chris Readle wrote: > First thing's first, create a user besides root and use that user to log > in. The command for this is "adduser". To find out more about the > command use "man adduser". > > Second, once you've created the new user, log in with it and type > "startx" > which should bring you into your Gnome interface if it's been installed > correctly. > > Third, read the Handbook, live the Handbook, BE the Handbook. :) > > chris > > --- "Mazen S. Alzogbi" wrote: > > Hi, > > It's my first time using FreeBSD so wish me luck! :) > > > > I installed the OS, logged on as "root" and I have now the prompt in > > front > > of me, now what? I installed Gnome but the system didn't reboot using > > the > > Gnome interface. How can I make it do that? > > > > TIA, > > > > -Mazen > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now > http://companion.yahoo.com/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 22 12:35:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00CB216A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:35:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from av2.stonline.sk (av2.stonline.sk [213.81.152.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C947043FD7 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:35:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danger@wilbury.sk) Received: from smtp.stonline.sk ([192.168.4.63]) by av2.stonline.sk (8.12.10/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMKZex6006421 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:35:40 +0100 Received: from telecom-213-195-76.telecom.sk (telecom-213-195-76.telecom.sk [213.81.195.76]) by smtp2.stonline.sk (STOnline ESMTP Server) with ESMTP id <0HOR006IFT7EBV@smtp2.stonline.sk> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:35:40 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:36:06 +0100 From: DanGer In-reply-to: <20031122201733.41323.qmail@web40613.mail.yahoo.com> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-id: <200311222136.06121.danger@wilbury.sk> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <20031122201733.41323.qmail@web40613.mail.yahoo.com> X-RAVMilter-Version: 8.4.3(snapshot 20030212) (av2.stonline.sk) Subject: Re: Total newbie: What's after installation? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: danger@wilbury.sk List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:35:46 -0000 Hi i'm using Kmail and i want to know how to set up it to add some line at the end of my mail automatically. i can't found it in settings maybe i have to write some script or what...some ideas? Thanks