From owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 19:58:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A64437B401 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 19:58:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from donkey.sinodynamics.com.tw (donkey.sinodynamics.com.tw [203.69.20.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84A2743F85 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 19:58:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Andy.Tien@sinodynamics.com.tw) Received: from libra (libra.sinodynamics.com.tw [192.168.0.3]) by donkey.sinodynamics.com.tw (8.11.6/8.9.3) with SMTP id h482w5v16136 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:58:06 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from Andy.Tien@sinodynamics.com.tw) Message-ID: <001001c3150d$a63d4fe0$0300a8c0@sinodynamics.com.tw> From: "Andy Tien" To: Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 10:58:04 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Smallest kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-small@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 02:58:11 -0000 Hi folks, Every one know way to make the smallest kernel which can fit into a = 1.44M floppy diskette?=20 I recently make the image into a ISO image burn into a CD-R, but the = old PC can not boot from a CD-ROM, so I will go back using the floppy = diskette to boot. I try to reduce many options but the image still = bigger than 1.44M , other capacity like 1.48M or 1.72M can not boot or = diskette failure regularly.=20 Best Regards From owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 23:49:30 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9474B37B404 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 23:49:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.svzserv.kemerovo.su (www.svzserv.kemerovo.su [213.184.65.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 661EA43FB1 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 23:49:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eugen@kuzbass.ru) Received: from kuzbass.ru (kost [213.184.65.82])h486nIFi066363; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:49:23 +0800 (KRAST) (envelope-from eugen@kuzbass.ru) Message-ID: <3EB9FDCA.8D314C35@kuzbass.ru> Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 14:48:42 +0800 From: Eugene Grosbein Organization: SVZServ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Tien References: <001001c3150d$a63d4fe0$0300a8c0@sinodynamics.com.tw> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Smallest kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-small@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 06:49:30 -0000 Andy Tien wrote: > > Hi folks, > Every one know way to make the smallest kernel which can fit into a 1.44M floppy diskette? > I recently make the image into a ISO image burn into a CD-R, but the old PC can not boot from a CD-ROM, so I will go back using the floppy diskette to boot. I try to reduce many options but the image still bigger than 1.44M , other capacity like 1.48M or 1.72M can not boot or diskette failure regularly. You should use PicoBSD to boot from floppy. It will compress a kernel and boot it afterwards. See /usr/src/release/picobsd. Eugene From owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 00:03:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B9537B401 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 00:03:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from donkey.sinodynamics.com.tw (donkey.sinodynamics.com.tw [203.69.20.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B979643FDD for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 00:03:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Andy.Tien@sinodynamics.com.tw) Received: from libra (libra.sinodynamics.com.tw [192.168.0.3]) h4872rv24284; Thu, 8 May 2003 15:02:53 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from Andy.Tien@sinodynamics.com.tw) Message-ID: <001601c3152f$cf71e520$0300a8c0@sinodynamics.com.tw> From: "Andy Tien" To: "Eugene Grosbein" References: <001001c3150d$a63d4fe0$0300a8c0@sinodynamics.com.tw> <3EB9FDCA.8D314C35@kuzbass.ru> Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 15:02:36 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 cc: small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Smallest kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-small@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 07:03:04 -0000 I have enjoy the picoBSD for a while, but in FreeBSD 5.0 beside bridge mode , I never succeed compile a image can fit into a 1.44M floppy diskette. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eugene Grosbein" To: "Andy Tien" Cc: Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 2:48 PM Subject: Re: Smallest kernel > Andy Tien wrote: > > > > Hi folks, > > Every one know way to make the smallest kernel which can fit into a 1.44M floppy diskette? > > I recently make the image into a ISO image burn into a CD-R, but the old PC can not boot from a CD-ROM, so I will go back using the floppy diskette to boot. I try to reduce many options but the image still bigger than 1.44M , other capacity like 1.48M or 1.72M can not boot or diskette failure regularly. > > You should use PicoBSD to boot from floppy. > It will compress a kernel and boot it afterwards. > > See /usr/src/release/picobsd. > > Eugene > From owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 00:21:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90BB537B401 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 00:21:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.svzserv.kemerovo.su (www.svzserv.kemerovo.su [213.184.65.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84C0E43F85 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 00:21:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eugen@kuzbass.ru) Received: from kuzbass.ru (kost [213.184.65.82])h487LmFi069049; Thu, 8 May 2003 15:21:48 +0800 (KRAST) (envelope-from eugen@kuzbass.ru) Message-ID: <3EBA0567.26ACC98D@kuzbass.ru> Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 15:21:11 +0800 From: Eugene Grosbein Organization: SVZServ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Tien References: <001001c3150d$a63d4fe0$0300a8c0@sinodynamics.com.tw> <3EB9FDCA.8D314C35@kuzbass.ru> <001601c3152f$cf71e520$0300a8c0@sinodynamics.com.tw> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Smallest kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-small@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 07:21:52 -0000 Andy Tien wrote: > > I have enjoy the picoBSD for a while, but in FreeBSD 5.0 beside bridge > mode , I never succeed compile a image can fit into a 1.44M floppy > diskette. I have not touch 5.0 yet, sorry. You could try CFLAGS=-O2 -Os to minimize code. Eugene From owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 01:13:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF0F037B401 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 01:13:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from donkey.sinodynamics.com.tw (donkey.sinodynamics.com.tw [203.69.20.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABE9043FD7 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 01:13:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andytien@donkey.sinodynamics.com.tw) Received: (from root@localhost) by donkey.sinodynamics.com.tw (8.11.6/8.9.3) id h488DY426746; Thu, 8 May 2003 16:13:34 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from andytien) Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 16:13:34 +0800 (CST) From: Andy Tien Message-Id: <200305080813.h488DY426746@donkey.sinodynamics.com.tw> To: Andy.Tien@sinodynamics.com.tw, eugen@kuzbass.ru In-Reply-To: <3EBA0567.26ACC98D@kuzbass.ru> cc: small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Smallest kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-small@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 08:13:43 -0000 Hi Don't be sorry I am happy some guy reply me question ? Best Regards