From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 20:56:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1001B16A4CE for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 20:56:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toxic.magnesium.net (toxic.magnesium.net [207.154.84.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B556E43D3F for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 20:56:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adamw@magnesium.net) Received: by toxic.magnesium.net (Postfix, from userid 1252) id 96472DA874; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 13:56:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 16:56:10 -0400 From: Adam Weinberger To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20040915205610.GE16757@toxic.magnesium.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Editor: Vim 6.2 http://www.vim.org X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5 http://www.mutt.org X-URL: http://www.vectors.cx X-ASL: 6/m/behind you User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: Thought you'd enjoy this... X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 20:56:11 -0000 Figured this list would get a kick out of this: Said to me as I was walking out of Cell Physiology And Biochemistry: Girl: "I heard you say that you do work for FreeBSD. Isn't that the Satanic thing that Kevin Mitnick got arrested for?" Me: "Why yes, yes it is." Girl: "Cooooool! Have you met Anton LaVey?" # Adam -- Adam Weinberger adamw@magnesium.net || adamw@FreeBSD.org adamw@vectors.cx || adamw@gnome.org http://www.vectors.cx From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 21:04:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0A0816A4CE for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 21:04:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toxic.magnesium.net (toxic.magnesium.net [207.154.84.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82A1943D1F for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 21:04:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adamw@magnesium.net) Received: by toxic.magnesium.net (Postfix, from userid 1252) id 6704BDA85E; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 14:04:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:04:46 -0400 From: Adam Weinberger To: "Person, Roderick" Message-ID: <20040915210446.GG16757@toxic.magnesium.net> References: <4BA256918ACE7449BD7896E65711C88B06248452@1UPMC-MSX8.isdip.upmc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4BA256918ACE7449BD7896E65711C88B06248452@1UPMC-MSX8.isdip.upmc.edu> X-Editor: Vim 6.2 http://www.vim.org X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5 http://www.mutt.org X-URL: http://www.vectors.cx X-ASL: 6/m/behind you User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Thought you'd enjoy this... X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 21:04:48 -0000 Yes, but according to /., so is *BSD. # Adam >> (09.15.2004 @ 1658 PST): Person, Roderick said, in 1.0K: << > LOL!!! > > That is the best! But isn't LaVey Dead? > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Adam > > Weinberger > > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 4:56 PM > > To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.org > > Subject: Thought you'd enjoy this... > > > > > > Figured this list would get a kick out of this: > > > > Said to me as I was walking out of Cell Physiology And Biochemistry: > > Girl: "I heard you say that you do work for FreeBSD. Isn't > > that the Satanic > > thing that Kevin Mitnick got arrested for?" > > Me: "Why yes, yes it is." > > Girl: "Cooooool! Have you met Anton LaVey?" > > > > # Adam > > > > > > -- > > Adam Weinberger > > adamw@magnesium.net || adamw@FreeBSD.org > > adamw@vectors.cx || adamw@gnome.org > > http://www.vectors.cx > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >> end of "RE: Thought you'd enjoy this..." from Person, Roderick << -- Adam Weinberger adamw@magnesium.net || adamw@FreeBSD.org adamw@vectors.cx || adamw@gnome.org http://www.vectors.cx From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 21:25:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF6B16A4CE; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 21:25:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mooseriver.com (h-66-166-146-73.snvacaid.covad.net [66.166.146.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD4B43D45; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 21:25:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jgrosch@mooseriver.com) Received: by mooseriver.com (Postfix, from userid 200) id 685FD170A5; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 14:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 14:25:11 -0700 From: Josef Grosch To: Adam Weinberger Message-ID: <20040915212511.GA11671@mooseriver.com> References: <20040915205610.GE16757@toxic.magnesium.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040915205610.GE16757@toxic.magnesium.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: Moose River, LLC cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thought you'd enjoy this... X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jgrosch@MooseRiver.com List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 21:25:11 -0000 --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 04:56:10PM -0400, Adam Weinberger wrote: > Figured this list would get a kick out of this: >=20 > Said to me as I was walking out of Cell Physiology And Biochemistry: > Girl: "I heard you say that you do work for FreeBSD. Isn't that the Satan= ic > thing that Kevin Mitnick got arrested for?" > Me: "Why yes, yes it is." > Girl: "Cooooool! Have you met Anton LaVey?" Did you have the heart to explain to her that Anton LaVey has been dead for 6 years now? Josef --=20 Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 5.2.1 jgrosch@MooseRiver.com | Micro$oft free world | Berkeley, Ca. --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFBSLM3y8prLS1GYSERAn9TAJ4/U8WiSYeOt8LtHhKmrkcvDuoDiwCgg+dI tL2muZYafgmGnSJwboiXqyc= =KF70 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH-- From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 00:28:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id 8128416A4CF; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 00:28:18 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 00:28:18 +0000 From: Kris Kennaway To: Josef Grosch Message-ID: <20040916002818.GA70401@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20040915205610.GE16757@toxic.magnesium.net> <20040915212511.GA11671@mooseriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040915212511.GA11671@mooseriver.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: Adam Weinberger Subject: Re: Thought you'd enjoy this... X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 00:28:18 -0000 On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 02:25:11PM -0700, Josef Grosch wrote: > On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 04:56:10PM -0400, Adam Weinberger wrote: > > Figured this list would get a kick out of this: > > > > Said to me as I was walking out of Cell Physiology And Biochemistry: > > Girl: "I heard you say that you do work for FreeBSD. Isn't that the Satanic > > thing that Kevin Mitnick got arrested for?" > > Me: "Why yes, yes it is." > > Girl: "Cooooool! Have you met Anton LaVey?" > > Did you have the heart to explain to her that Anton LaVey has been dead for > 6 years now? So? :) Kris From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 01:57:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED29D16A4CE; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 01:57:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F1843D31; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 01:57:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Wed, 15 Sep 2004 20:57:10 -0500 Message-ID: <4148F29D.5020105@daleco.biz> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 20:55:41 -0500 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040712 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway References: <20040915205610.GE16757@toxic.magnesium.net> <20040915212511.GA11671@mooseriver.com> <20040916002818.GA70401@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20040916002818.GA70401@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Sep 2004 01:57:15.0781 (UTC) FILETIME=[7D963B50:01C49B90] cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: Josef Grosch cc: Adam Weinberger Subject: Re: Thought you'd enjoy this... X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 01:57:17 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: >On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 02:25:11PM -0700, Josef Grosch wrote: > > >>On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 04:56:10PM -0400, Adam Weinberger wrote: >> >> >>>Figured this list would get a kick out of this: >>> >>>Said to me as I was walking out of Cell Physiology And Biochemistry: >>>Girl: "I heard you say that you do work for FreeBSD. Isn't that the Satanic >>>thing that Kevin Mitnick got arrested for?" >>>Me: "Why yes, yes it is." >>>Girl: "Cooooool! Have you met Anton LaVey?" >>> >>> >>Did you have the heart to explain to her that Anton LaVey has been dead for >>6 years now? >> >> > >So? :) > >Kris > > Does this mean he still has a commit bit? :-p KDK ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Truth was the first casualty of the information superhighway." --- someone From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 13:27:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0360716A4CE; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 13:27:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toxic.magnesium.net (toxic.magnesium.net [207.154.84.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E023843D2D; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 13:27:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adamw@magnesium.net) Received: by toxic.magnesium.net (Postfix, from userid 1252) id 83415DA85E; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 06:27:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:27:16 -0400 From: Adam Weinberger To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20040916132716.GH16757@toxic.magnesium.net> References: <20040915205610.GE16757@toxic.magnesium.net> <20040915212511.GA11671@mooseriver.com> <20040916002818.GA70401@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040916002818.GA70401@hub.freebsd.org> X-Editor: Vim 6.2 http://www.vim.org X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5 http://www.mutt.org X-URL: http://www.vectors.cx X-ASL: 6/m/behind you User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: Josef Grosch Subject: Re: Thought you'd enjoy this... X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 13:27:18 -0000 >> (09.15.2004 @ 2028 PST): Kris Kennaway said, in 0.6K: << > On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 02:25:11PM -0700, Josef Grosch wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 04:56:10PM -0400, Adam Weinberger wrote: > > > Figured this list would get a kick out of this: > > > > > > Said to me as I was walking out of Cell Physiology And Biochemistry: > > > Girl: "I heard you say that you do work for FreeBSD. Isn't that the Satanic > > > thing that Kevin Mitnick got arrested for?" > > > Me: "Why yes, yes it is." > > > Girl: "Cooooool! Have you met Anton LaVey?" > > > > Did you have the heart to explain to her that Anton LaVey has been dead for > > 6 years now? > > So? :) > > Kris >> end of "Re: Thought you'd enjoy this..." from Kris Kennaway << Yeah, given his line of work, I can't imagine as how a thing like death would cause him any problem. # Adam -- Adam Weinberger adamw@magnesium.net || adamw@FreeBSD.org adamw@vectors.cx || adamw@gnome.org http://www.vectors.cx From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 23:08:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2AE616A4CE; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 23:08:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns0.secureanonymous.com (tjhawkins.com [64.232.254.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3FCE43D1D; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 23:08:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from timh@tjhawkins.com) Received: from cdm-66-76-83-77.fayt.cox-internet.com ([66.76.83.77] helo=yourw92p4bhlzg) by ns0.secureanonymous.com with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1C8nOn-0005Ya-Ha; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 17:09:42 -0500 Message-ID: <00d001c49dd4$7382dc40$6401a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> From: To: , , Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 18:08:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ns0.secureanonymous.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tjhawkins.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Please explain. X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 23:08:51 -0000 2 Major Issues: - FreeBSD has a processor affinity design issue - The core kernel issues with FreeBSD is the horrible threading support.There is so much crap in FreeBSD kernel. The multithreading issue in freebsd has been delayed for nearly 6 years. They have just made work arounds, not fixing the actual problem. It seems that the only real BSD that has made big progress on the core issues is DragonflyBSD. It appears that FreeBSD have a clear Multi-threading lock-in issue that needs to be fixed. Not work arounds. According to many freebsd developers nobody simply wants to fix this, is it true that the current smp work are just 'work-arounds' not real fixing? The only thing holding FreeBSD back is the Multithreading issue. Please clarify this.