From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 14:04:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8424716A4CE for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:04:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E13F43D45 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:04:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i0IM4cip066191; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:04:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i0IM4bwn066190; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:04:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:04:37 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Michael Dosser Message-ID: <20040118220437.GD65333@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20040115152737.GA36960@alt.strg.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040115152737.GA36960@alt.strg.at> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: which graphic card ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 22:04:44 -0000 On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 04:27:37PM +0100, Michael Dosser wrote: > I'm yust curious: which graphic card do you use for a amd > athlon64 workstation? Are there any advices/recommendations (xfree)? Well tested are Matrox G4[05]0 and nVidia GeForce{3,4}. I have no ATI experience on FreeBSD/amd64. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 14:29:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C7116A4CE for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:29:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D658643D41 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:29:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i0IMTXip076563; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:29:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i0IMTWrN076562; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:29:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:29:32 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Robert Cousins Message-ID: <20040118222932.GG65333@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20040114200042.1AE8716A4FB@hub.freebsd.org> <4005FA53.3000301@RCousins.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4005FA53.3000301@RCousins.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Query about ext[32]fs X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 22:29:36 -0000 On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 06:26:27PM -0800, Robert Cousins wrote: > Hello: > Does anyone know if the ext[23]fs code works for AMD64? > I'm in the process of building a triple boot machine (XP, Linux, FreeBSD) > and it appears that the best option for sharing data between the > environments > is ext[23]fs since there is now 3rd party support for ext2fs under XP. I don't know of anyone that has tested it. Please let us know what you find out. > My obvious fallback is FAT which is obviously less functional from > FreeBSD and Linux. fat32 acutally, which at least gives you long file names. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 14:31:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B10316A4D2 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:31:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49F6E43D39 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:31:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i0IMViip076586; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:31:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i0IMVig3076585; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:31:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:31:44 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: James Van Artsdalen Message-ID: <20040118223144.GH65333@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <200401142141.i0ELfG05011807@bigtex.jrv.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200401142141.i0ELfG05011807@bigtex.jrv.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CPU throttling X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 22:31:46 -0000 On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 03:41:16PM -0600, James Van Artsdalen wrote: > Is CPU throttling possible with AMD64? Nope. We don't have a Cool&Quiet PowerNOW driver. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 14:42:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10CE616A4CE for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:42:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBEBA43D31 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:42:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i0IMgDip076793; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:42:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i0IMgCwa076792; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:42:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:42:12 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Chris BeHanna Message-ID: <20040118224212.GI65333@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <200401141043.04455.chris@behanna.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200401141043.04455.chris@behanna.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cost of a Bare-Bones Box? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 22:42:21 -0000 On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 10:43:04AM -0500, Chris BeHanna wrote: > Is it possible to build an Opteron-based box for under a grand, if > I re-use my existing NIC, hard disks, and video board (will they even > work?): > > Adaptec 3950U2B hosting a pair of LVD drives > Adaptec 2400A IDE RAID hosting a quartet of WD 120GB Sp. Editions > ATI Radeon 7200 (aka Radeon VIVO) > Netgear FA310TX serving the outside world > Netgear FA302T serving the inside LAN All of this will work. > Can I re-use my 500W ATX power supply? Depends. What power connections does it have? At least the normal 20-pin power + 4-pin secondary power? That is the mininum requirement. > What about my 1GB stick of registered PC2100 ECC? Yes. > Can I get an SMP mobo and just stick one CPU on it for now? Yes. Also note that not all opteron mobos are SMP. I quite like the 1P Tyan Tomcat K8S s2850. > Can I re-use my tower ATX case? Yes (depending on which board you get). You can also build an Athlon64 machine, which would be cheaper and let you use un-registered/buffered RAM. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 14:44:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A0816A4CE for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:44:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39C8E43D39 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:44:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i0IMiFip076839; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:44:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i0IMiEeL076838; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:44:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:44:14 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Will Saxon Message-ID: <20040118224414.GJ65333@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <0E972CEE334BFE4291CD07E056C76ED8CBBE10@bragi.housing.ufl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0E972CEE334BFE4291CD07E056C76ED8CBBE10@bragi.housing.ufl.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cost of a Bare-Bones Box? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 22:44:18 -0000 On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 10:50:20AM -0500, Will Saxon wrote: > Your RAM is too slow, and I don't know if you can run the memory bus > asynchronously, so if it were me I would figure on buying more RAM. Huh? I don't follow, why is running PC2100 in any AMD64 machine running the memory bus asynchronously?? PC1600 memory will work fine any any AMD64 mobo, so will PC2100 and PC2700. You'll need the latest BIOS's and a rev.C CPU to run DDR400. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 14:53:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D49C16A4CE for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:53:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996B343D41 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:53:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i0IMreip076937; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:53:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i0IMre4X076936; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:53:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:53:40 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: James Van Artsdalen Message-ID: <20040118225340.GK65333@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <200401141043.04455.chris@behanna.org> <200401142331.i0ENVj11015359@bigtex.jrv.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200401142331.i0ENVj11015359@bigtex.jrv.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cost of a Bare-Bones Box? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 22:53:44 -0000 On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 05:31:45PM -0600, James Van Artsdalen wrote: > You might be able to save some money by using an Athlon64 CPU and > motherboard instead of Opteron, but registered DIMM might not work. Registered(buffered) DIMM's will not work in Athlon64 motherboards. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 14:55:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3DC716A4CE; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:55:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from wn1.sci.kun.nl (wn1.sci.kun.nl [131.174.8.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 083CC43D4C; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:55:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from adridg@sci.kun.nl) Received: from wn4.sci.kun.nl by wn1.sci.kun.nl via wn4.sci.kun.nl [131.174.8.3] with ESMTP id i0IMt64M016541 (8.12.10/3.58); Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:55:06 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:55:06 +0100 (MET) From: Adriaan de Groot To: "David O'Brien" In-Reply-To: <20040118223144.GH65333@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CPU throttling X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: adridg@cs.kun.nl List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 22:55:09 -0000 On Sun, 18 Jan 2004, David O'Brien wrote: > On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 03:41:16PM -0600, James Van Artsdalen wrote: > > Is CPU throttling possible with AMD64? > > Nope. We don't have a Cool&Quiet PowerNOW driver. I had C&Q turned on in the BIOS of my Asus k8v, and coupled with the zalman 7000cu cooler, the behavior was as follows: 0) at boot, spin fan at 2500rpm for 5min 1) shut off fan entirely (damn frightening!) 2) wait for CPU temp. to reach 50 degrees 3) switch on fan at 2500rpm 4) wait for CPU temp. to reach 30 degrees 5) goto 1 it actually worked reasonably well, and the lockups i experienced every other day could just as easily have been panics as overheating :) i haven't tried it recently, though. -- Adriaan de Groot adridg@cs.kun.nl Kamer A6020 024-3652272 GPG Key Fingerprint 934E 31AA 80A7 723F 54F9 50ED 76AC EE01 FEA2 A3FE http://www.cs.kun.nl/~adridg/research/ From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 14:58:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E71316A4CF for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:58:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF6743D45 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:58:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i0IMvxip077029; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:58:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i0IMvx07077028; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:57:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:57:59 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Adriaan de Groot Message-ID: <20040118225759.GL65333@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20040118223144.GH65333@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CPU throttling X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 22:58:10 -0000 On Sun, Jan 18, 2004 at 11:55:06PM +0100, Adriaan de Groot wrote: > On Sun, 18 Jan 2004, David O'Brien wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 03:41:16PM -0600, James Van Artsdalen wrote: > > > Is CPU throttling possible with AMD64? > > > > Nope. We don't have a Cool&Quiet PowerNOW driver. > > I had C&Q turned on in the BIOS of my Asus k8v, AMD Q&Q(tm) is something different than what your mobo is doing. C&Q controlls VID/FID (p-state) changing. One needs a driver for it. > and coupled with the > zalman 7000cu cooler, the behavior was as follows: > > 0) at boot, spin fan at 2500rpm for 5min > 1) shut off fan entirely (damn frightening!) > 2) wait for CPU temp. to reach 50 degrees > 3) switch on fan at 2500rpm > 4) wait for CPU temp. to reach 30 degrees > 5) goto 1 Yes, this is simply the mobo running the fan at the slowest speed that will keep the CPU w/in vendor specified operating temps. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 23:42:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEFD316A4CE; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:42:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from 21322530218.direct.eti.at (21322530218.direct.eti.at [213.225.30.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 006C843D2D; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:42:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tilman@arved.de) Received: from huckfinn-xl1.arved.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i0J7gCH6041162; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 08:42:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tilman@arved.de) Received: (from tilman@localhost) by huckfinn-xl1.arved.de (8.12.10/8.12.6/Submit) id i0J7gCpv041161; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 08:42:12 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: huckfinn-xl1.arved.de: tilman set sender to tilman@arved.de using -f Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 08:42:12 +0100 From: Tilman Linneweh To: "David O'Brien" Message-ID: <20040119074212.GK65933@huckfinn.arved.de> References: <20040115152737.GA36960@alt.strg.at> <20040118220437.GD65333@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OzxllxdKGCiKxUZM" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040118220437.GD65333@dragon.nuxi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: Michael Dosser cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: which graphic card ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 07:42:17 -0000 --OzxllxdKGCiKxUZM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * David O'Brien [Sun, Jan 18, 2004 at 02:04:37PM -0800]: > On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 04:27:37PM +0100, Michael Dosser wrote: > > I'm yust curious: which graphic card do you use for a amd=20 > > athlon64 workstation? Are there any advices/recommendations (xfree)? >=20 > Well tested are Matrox G4[05]0 and nVidia GeForce{3,4}. I have no ATI > experience on FreeBSD/amd64. > I use an none0@pci1:0:0: class=3D0x030000 card=3D0x596412ab chip=3D0x59641002 rev=3D= 0x01 hdr=3D0x00 vendor =3D 'ATI Technologies' device =3D 'Radeon 9200 Series' class =3D display subclass =3D VGA which works fine with FreeBSD mchammer.arved.de 5.2-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT #1: Fri Dec 19 02= :37:25 CET 2003 root@mchammer.arved.de:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MCHAMMER a= md64 (XFree does not recognize the ChipID, but with "ChipID 0x514D" X works) regards tilman =20 --OzxllxdKGCiKxUZM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAC4pQfCLDn4B6xToRArbcAJ97tsWx4n1w5pXAXwvbdncd/3O8YwCeMp9t DReZLP9qU/a6d8eb7FcLrgg= =XBO/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OzxllxdKGCiKxUZM-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 11:02:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F1A16A4CE for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:02:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B02ED43D75 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:01:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0JJ1SFR061827 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:01:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i0JJ1SSJ061821 for freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:01:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:01:28 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200401191901.i0JJ1SSJ061821@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Subject: Current problem reports assigned to you X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 19:02:50 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2003/11/26] amd64/59713 amd64 Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BD7016A4CE; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:25:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A26CB43D39; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:25:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i0JJPgFR069585; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:25:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i0JJPg9O069581; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:25:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:25:42 -0800 (PST) From: "David E. O'Brien" Message-Id: <200401191925.i0JJPg9O069581@freefall.freebsd.org> To: obrien@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: amd64/61440: /usr/ports/net/tightvnc does not install on amd64 fbsd 5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 19:25:43 -0000 Synopsis: /usr/ports/net/tightvnc does not install on amd64 fbsd 5.2 Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-amd64->freebsd-ports Responsible-Changed-By: obrien Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Jan 19 11:25:32 PST 2004 Responsible-Changed-Why: This is really a ports issue. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=61440 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 11:53:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3973616A4CE for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:53:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from everest.sethbc.org (r107647.resnet.cornell.edu [128.253.186.248]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C7243D49 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:53:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sethbc@sethbc.org) Received: from sethbc.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by everest.sethbc.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 224D03F418 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:52:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from 128.253.186.248 (SquirrelMail authenticated user sethbc) by sethbc.org with HTTP; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:52:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <49202.128.253.186.248.1074541973.squirrel@sethbc.org> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:52:53 -0500 (EST) From: sethbc@sethbc.org To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: DRM/DRI Support for ATI Cards X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 19:53:23 -0000 I was wondering if anyone has tried to build the DRM module for the ATI Radeon's on amd64. The module complains of relocation errors, but cannot be compiled with -fPIC either. The errors for the DRM module without -fPIC in CFLAGS are as follows: ld -Bshareable -d -warn-common -o radeon.ko radeon.kld ld: radeon.kld: relocation R_X86_64_32S can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC radeon.kld: could not read symbols: Bad value *** Error code 1 the errors when compiled with -fPIC in CFLAGS are as follows: everest# make Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/src/sys/modules/drm/radeon @ -> /usr/src/sys machine -> /usr/src/sys/amd64/include awk -f @/tools/makeobjops.awk @/kern/device_if.m -h awk -f @/tools/makeobjops.awk @/kern/bus_if.m -h awk -f @/tools/makeobjops.awk @/dev/pci/pci_if.m -h touch opt_drm.h cc -O -fPIC -pipe -D_KERNEL -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I- -I. -I@ -I@/../include -I/usr/include -finline-limit=20000 -fno-common -mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone -mfpmath=387 -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -msoft-float -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -c /usr/src/sys/modules/drm/radeon/../../../dev/drm/radeon_cp.c cc1: sorry, unimplemented: code model kernel not supported in PIC mode cc1: error: code model `kernel' not supported in the 64 bit mode *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/drm/radeon. in grepping through the source code it looked fairly portable, but i'm not familiar enough with the FreeBSD kernel to even hazard a guess at how this would be fixed. If someone else would take a look at it for me I'd be eternally grateful (well eternally seems like kind of a long time, but grateful anyway). Thanks, seth From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 12:32:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1ACE16A4CE; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:32:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from everest.sethbc.org (r107647.resnet.cornell.edu [128.253.186.248]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9D5943D4C; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:32:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sethbc@sethbc.org) Received: from sethbc.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by everest.sethbc.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E326C3F418; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:32:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from 128.253.186.248 (SquirrelMail authenticated user sethbc) by sethbc.org with HTTP; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:32:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <49336.128.253.186.248.1074544352.squirrel@sethbc.org> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:32:32 -0500 (EST) From: sethbc@sethbc.org To: olgeni@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: ETerm on AMD64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 20:32:33 -0000 I built x11/eterm on my amd64, and the build procedure went fine, but running it now i'm getting random corruption on the screen as i scroll through the term output. I can forward a screenshot if need be, basically just little squares everwhere. If anyone has any ideas how to solve this problem, please let me know. seth From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 14:42:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 584B716A4CE for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:42:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from everest.sethbc.org (r107647.resnet.cornell.edu [128.253.186.248]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7098143D1D for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:42:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sethbc@sethbc.org) Received: from sethbc.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by everest.sethbc.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BA9DD3F418 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 17:42:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from 128.253.186.248 (SquirrelMail authenticated user sethbc) by sethbc.org with HTTP; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 17:42:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <49414.128.253.186.248.1074552149.squirrel@sethbc.org> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 17:42:29 -0500 (EST) From: sethbc@sethbc.org To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: gdb and/or gaim on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 22:42:30 -0000 one last thing before i call it a day :-P I've been trying to debug gaim, it builds, but its unable to create the proper socket. The reason behind this is that a linked list isn't being populated with the right information, so the sa_family portion of the sockaddr is 0x00'd out instead of AF_INET Anyway, its really hard to debug this stuff without a debugger though, i was wondering what the status was of a gdb-6.0 based debugger. I think i saw that Peter had a binary going, but it was never released. If anyone would chime in on either of these subjects (fixing gaim, or gdb) feel free to do so. Thanks again, seth From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 20:16:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FB4316A4CE for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 20:16:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp2.server.rpi.edu (smtp2.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44EF543D5C for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 20:16:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from higgsr@rpi.edu) Received: from webmail.rpi.edu (webmail.rpi.edu [128.113.26.21]) by smtp2.server.rpi.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i0K4G1O1007782 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 23:16:01 -0500 Message-Id: <200401200416.i0K4G1O1007782@smtp2.server.rpi.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org From: higgsr@rpi.edu X-Originating-Ip: 24.29.50.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 23:16:01 EST X-Mailer: EMUmail 4.00 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . canit . ca) Subject: status of mozilla X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: higgsr@rpi.edu List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 04:16:03 -0000 Hello, I updated my ports collection yesterday and saw updates to mozilla. So I built and installed it. Everything works great except that I am unable to resize the mozilla windows. I am using fvwm2. Have I overlooked something or is this a problem with mozilla? I realize that there are probably still a bunch of 64 bit issues with mozilla. Thanks, Ray Higgs From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 20 01:46:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B0616A4CE for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 01:46:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from pandora.cs.kun.nl (pandora.cs.kun.nl [131.174.33.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E42643D4C for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 01:46:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from adridg@cs.kun.nl) Received: from localhost by pandora.cs.kun.nl id i0K9kQ65011911 (8.12.10/3.58); Tue, 20 Jan 2004 10:46:26 +0100 (MET) From: Adriaan de Groot To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 10:44:48 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.50 References: <49414.128.253.186.248.1074552149.squirrel@sethbc.org> In-Reply-To: <49414.128.253.186.248.1074552149.squirrel@sethbc.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200401201044.48954.adridg@cs.kun.nl> Subject: Re: gdb and/or gaim on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 09:46:30 -0000 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 19 January 2004 23:42, sethbc@sethbc.org wrote: > Anyway, its really hard to debug this stuff without a debugger though, i > was wondering what the status was of a gdb-6.0 based debugger. I think i > saw that Peter had a binary going, but it was never released. beans.ebn.kun.nl$gdb --version GNU gdb 20031116 Copyright 2003 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain condition= s. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "x86_64-freebsd". Search the archives, Seth. You'll find the advice to get a snapshot of gdb = 6=20 and compile it. I did, and it worked out of the box; I don't seem to recall= =20 any hoops I had to jump through. =2D --=20 pub 1024D/FEA2A3FE 2002-06-18 Adriaan de Groot If the door is ajar, can we fill it with door-jamb? =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFADPiQdqzuAf6io/4RAhfiAJ9Scie7g49mTPCUyJnuqM2JmLpMngCeL7mn TQPswbhGH6uirCdjrmz4hDg=3D =3DKM0i =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 20 09:10:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C44616A4F0 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 09:10:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 737CF43D82 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 09:10:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gofda-freebsd-amd64@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AizOY-00008v-00 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 18:10:30 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from sea.gmane.org ([80.91.224.252]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AiyUg-0007zq-00 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:12:46 +0100 Received: from news by sea.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AiyUg-0001sS-00 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:12:46 +0100 From: Marc Bevand Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:11:44 +0100 Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <17426.6989030459$1073697945@news.gmane.org> <20040113070204.GA764@curacao.n2it.nl> <200401141224.i0ECObwr093993@bigtex.jrv.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040120 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en In-Reply-To: <200401141224.i0ECObwr093993@bigtex.jrv.org> Sender: news Subject: Re: ATA (Re: AMD64 support in 5.x versions) X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:10:51 -0000 James Van Artsdalen wrote: > > [...] > Highpoint sells an RR-1820 PCI-X (64-bit 133 MHz) serial ATA controller > but I cannot get them to send me any technical documentation and > cannot get it to work with Windows with the supplied drivers. Silicon > Image has a 3124 chip which is PCI-X and ought to be able to directly > address more than 4 GB of RAM but I don't know of any card that uses > this yet. Intel has a PCI-X SATA controller [1] too, but I am not aware of any product using it. There is also Marvell which has some PCI-X SATA chips [2]. Here is a product using them [3]. [1] http://www.intel.com/design/storage/serialata/gd31244.htm [2] http://www.marvell.com/products/storage/sata/index.jsp [3] http://www.supermicro.com/PRODUCT/Accessories/DAC-SATA-MV8.htm -- Marc Bevand - System and IT Security Engineer - SmartJog Phone: +33.1.49.96.63.19 Cell: +33.6.63.97.45.26 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 20 23:34:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DAC316A4CE for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 23:34:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from cs.huji.ac.il (cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.16.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECE6443D54 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 23:34:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danny@cs.huji.ac.il) Received: from pampa.cs.huji.ac.il ([132.65.80.32] ident=danny) by cs.huji.ac.il with esmtp id 1AjCsa-000PNo-M4 for freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:34:24 +0200 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.6.3 04/04/2003 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:34:24 +0200 From: Danny Braniss Message-Id: Subject: panic lost? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 07:34:29 -0000 cpu_switch.S calls panic, should it not be __panic? danny From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 12:12:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8310216A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:12:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from curacao.n2it.nl (62-177-157-186.bbeyond.nl [62.177.157.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D4143D1D for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:12:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billsf@curacao.n2it.nl) Received: by curacao.n2it.nl (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 604F62105; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 21:12:03 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 21:12:03 +0100 From: Bill Squire To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040121201203.GA45365@curacao.n2it.nl> References: <200401200416.i0K4G1O1007782@smtp2.server.rpi.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200401200416.i0K4G1O1007782@smtp2.server.rpi.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: status of mozilla X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 20:12:07 -0000 On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 11:16:01PM -0500, higgsr@rpi.edu wrote: > Hello, > > I updated my ports collection yesterday and saw updates to mozilla. So I > built and installed it. Everything works great except that I am unable to > resize the mozilla windows. I am using fvwm2. Have I overlooked something > or is this a problem with mozilla? I realize that there are probably still > a bunch of 64 bit issues with mozilla. > > Thanks, > Ray Higgs > Hi Ray and all, Mozilla works well and the window resizes with no problems. Below is what I did and some notes on what I'm doing elsewhere. You got me to try it. Compiled mozilla-gtk2-1.6_1 with the flags that usually work. (more later) Works great, very fast and except for the lack of java and some forms of javascript, there are no obvious bugs and a good first im- pression. GTK has worked in 64bit (AFAIK) from the beginning. If you are using Motif, that could be the problem. (QT is also excellent in 64bit.) I run Gnome panel inside KDE. While some KDE apps don't perform that well, generally a Gnome equivalent one will. While xpdf is a bit shaky and often goes out in a core-dump, gpdf is perfect. For that occasional .doc file, antiword is especially good and very simple. AbiWord compiles but that's about all -- very disappointing compared to its i386 counterpart. In general, I use DPIC, -pipe (sometimes with a base -O) and -D__amd64__ which is sometimes missed in makefiles when needed. For CXXFLAGS -fPIC is allays safe and often makes the difference. The classic examples do work but can produce allot of warnings, like -fmemoize-lookups -fsave-memoized which only (AFAIK) speed up the compile. Sure, nobody needs it, but java would be nice. (for mozilla and beyond) I'm trying but messing with that is madness. Sun certainly must be able to help. (and i party with some of Sun's founders) On the kernel hacking, linprocfs works except for the Linux OS info which could be pre-set anyways. Linux ABI support 'appears' just around the corner but 64bit Linux first! (Almost anything Unix compiles 64bit.) While I did have a 32bit compat setup, things changed and i question how interesting such a direction is. (If 32bit applications can run even close to 64bit, then its interesting.) My personal observation is that its easy to make mistakes working 32bit binaries in the amd64 that freeze the machine. Per- haps there is a standard way to be developed? I've had my Alpha for years and are still happy with it today. While it is quite different than CISC systems, I've learned lots over the years. (ev56, 21164 @ 533MHz) I'd love more Alpha's but they are too expensive relative to the amd64. Bill From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 13:44:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E0016A4EC for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:44:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.acadiau.ca (hades.acadiau.ca [131.162.201.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0125343D78 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:44:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from 039320p@acadiau.ca) Received: from localhost (webmail.acadiau.ca [131.162.201.20]) by hades.acadiau.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 600998C04B7 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 17:44:20 -0400 (AST) Received: from dyna172-94.acadiau.ca (dyna172-94.acadiau.ca [131.162.172.94]) as user 039320p@relay.acadiau.ca by webmail.acadiau.ca with HTTP; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 17:44:20 -0400 Message-ID: <1074721460.400ef2b452e09@webmail.acadiau.ca> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 17:44:20 -0400 From: Murray Patterson <039320p@acadiau.ca> To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 4.0-cvs X-Originating-IP: 131.162.172.94 Subject: a few questions about ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 21:44:45 -0000 Hi, I'm trying to get octave, scilab and emacs working for my machine. I first got them from their respective sites and tried to compile and install them for my system, with no success. Then I tried the ports for these: /usr/ports/ math/octave, /usr/ports/math/scilab, and /usr/ports/editors/emacs to see if that would work (not expecting any success), and these failed. So I guess the first question is: Why did the 5.2 iso's include those ports to begin with, when they don't work (I chose to get the ports collection from CD when I installed from CD)? So anyway, I then looked around the freebsd site for ports and came upon: ftp://ftp1.us.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-5.2-release/ and sure enough the ports math/octave, math/scilab, editor/emacs don't exist. So I'm guessing that becuase this ftp site will always contain the most up-to-date ports for the amd64 architecture (am I right?), then I should just keep looking here to see if a port for any of these programs exists in the future. If anyone can shed any light on any of these issues it would be great. Thanks, Murray From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 13:58:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75BD616A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:58:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C2643D4C for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:58:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (IDENT:brdavis@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.12.10/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i0LLwGaT003324; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:58:16 -0800 Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.12.10/8.12.3/Submit) id i0LLwGpF003323; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:58:16 -0800 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:58:16 -0800 From: Brooks Davis To: Murray Patterson <039320p@acadiau.ca> Message-ID: <20040121215816.GB21939@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <1074721460.400ef2b452e09@webmail.acadiau.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OwLcNYc0lM97+oe1" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1074721460.400ef2b452e09@webmail.acadiau.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) on odin.ac.hmc.edu cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a few questions about ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 21:58:22 -0000 --OwLcNYc0lM97+oe1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 05:44:20PM -0400, Murray Patterson wrote: > Hi, =20 > > I'm trying to get octave, scilab and emacs working for my machine. > I first got them from their respective sites and tried to compile > and install them for my system, with no success. Then I tried the > ports for these: /usr/ports/ math/octave, /usr/ports/math/scilab, and > /usr/ports/editors/emacs to see if that would work (not expecting any > success), and these failed. So I guess the first question is: Why > did the 5.2 iso's include those ports to begin with, when they don't > work (I chose to get the ports collection from CD when I installed > from CD)? The ports collection contains ports which worked on at least one of the 5+ FreeBSD architectures at some time in the past. There is a mechanism for marking ports which are currently broken or which only work on certain platformas, but meta-data like that isn't always up to date, especialy on platforms like amd-64 which are very new. > So anyway, I then looked around the freebsd site for ports and came upon:= =20 > =20 > ftp://ftp1.us.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-5.2-release/ = =20 > =20 > and sure enough the ports math/octave, math/scilab, editor/emacs =20 > don't exist. So I'm guessing that becuase this ftp site will always =20 > contain the most up-to-date ports for the amd64 architecture (am I =20 > right?), then I should just keep looking here to see if a port for =20 > any of these programs exists in the future. If anyone can shed any =20 > light on any of these issues it would be great. =20 This URL represents a snapshot of ports which built at release time. It will not change (except to be deleted in another couple releases). In theory, working ports will eventually result in packages appearing in: ftp://ftp1.us.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-5-current/ or later .../packages-5-stable/ but I'm not sure what the rate at which they will be built is. They also won't work until someone who cares about them figures out what is wrong and fixes them. This ranges from trivial to extreamly difficult. -- Brooks -- Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --OwLcNYc0lM97+oe1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFADvX2XY6L6fI4GtQRAvTFAJ4n4Dcq9DNmyQYSSnAhR7hLIzmivQCgz3o6 INdVg2tA66SIbimCgU0djIk= =J4Tp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OwLcNYc0lM97+oe1-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 14:18:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C7D16A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:18:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from pandora.cs.kun.nl (pandora.cs.kun.nl [131.174.33.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F22043D2F for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:17:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from adridg@cs.kun.nl) Received: from localhost by pandora.cs.kun.nl id i0LMHi65010518 (8.12.10/3.58); Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:17:44 +0100 (MET) From: Adriaan de Groot To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:17:35 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.50 References: <1074721460.400ef2b452e09@webmail.acadiau.ca> <20040121215816.GB21939@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> In-Reply-To: <20040121215816.GB21939@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200401212317.40273.adridg@cs.kun.nl> Subject: Re: a few questions about ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:18:17 -0000 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 21 January 2004 22:58, Brooks Davis wrote: > On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 05:44:20PM -0400, Murray Patterson wrote: > > I'm trying to get octave, scilab and emacs working for my machine. > > The ports collection contains ports which worked on at least one of > the 5+ FreeBSD architectures at some time in the past. There is a The ports collection for amd64 is wonky at best right now. Some things will= =20 compile and then fail, some won't even compile. YMMV, and as Brooks points= =20 out, the metadata is not up-to-date for amd64 (perhaps because not all the= =20 ports have even been tried yet). Emacs is LISP. LISP is evil. Your average LISP interpreter wouldn't think=20 twice about randomly shuffling the 32 bits in an int to get a pointer to a= =20 memory allocation node. That said, I believe James van Artsdalen had some=20 success getting emacs up and running, check the archives of this group. Many other compile issues can be dealt with fairly simply. pointer-to-int=20 casts show up easily and generally you can replace int by long in the=20 datastrcutures and things will work out OK (though binary file format=20 compatibility is toast then).=20 va_alist and friends are a lot harder to deal with (POSE, the Palm Emulator= ,=20 has this problem). In the end, your best bet is to muck about in work/ in your ports tree, sor= t=20 it out yourself, and mail the port maintainer and possibly the upstream as= =20 well. Failing that, sending accurate compile-failure logs can sometimes hel= p=20 too. =2D --=20 pub 1024D/FEA2A3FE 2002-06-18 Adriaan de Groot If the door is ajar, can we fill it with door-jamb? =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFADvqEdqzuAf6io/4RAl2xAJ48PEQj9xopAVlUiQXy5XFVXakDVgCgp13S fm1jR3k1+hkYYcbTbT488pY=3D =3DhhXB =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 22 03:22:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1759916A4CE for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 03:22:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from bigtex.jrv.org (rrcs-sw-24-73-246-106.biz.rr.com [24.73.246.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9AC43D46 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 03:22:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from james@bigtex.jrv.org) Received: from bigtex.jrv.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bigtex.jrv.org (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id i0MBM2o8020094 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 22 Jan 2004 05:22:03 -0600 (CST) Received: (from james@localhost) by bigtex.jrv.org (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) id i0MBM2tW020091; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 05:22:02 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 05:22:02 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200401221122.i0MBM2tW020091@bigtex.jrv.org> From: James Van Artsdalen To: 039320p@acadiau.ca In-reply-to: <1074721460.400ef2b452e09@webmail.acadiau.ca> (message from Murray Patterson on Wed, 21 Jan 2004 17:44:20 -0400) References: <1074721460.400ef2b452e09@webmail.acadiau.ca> cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a few questions about ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:22:06 -0000 > Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 17:44:20 -0400 > From: Murray Patterson <039320p@acadiau.ca> > > I'm trying to get octave, scilab and emacs working for my machine. The first thing to do is search http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-amd64 and see if someone else has gotten the port to work. There is a patch for emacs in there. The authors of octave or scilab may know of someone already working on the issues for AMD64. If no one has a fix you should probably send the port maintainer a note describing what happened so they can tag the port as not working under AMD64. I did send my emacs changes to the port maintainer but I don't know if they have appeared yet or not. As a rule of thumb I look to see if a program runs on Alpha. If so then it's likely that most of the tedious work in pointer/int and varargs has already been done. PS. "cvsup" is still a problem. Peter Wemm has one that works in text mode and you should use it to update you ports tree. Search the mailing list archive for the URL for it. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 22 04:13:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A166016A4CE for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 04:13:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from ms1.din.or.jp (ms1.din.or.jp [210.135.65.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 180D143D41 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 04:13:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from satoshi@din.or.jp) Received: from localhost (ppd01-0a17.din.or.jp [210.135.83.117]) by ms1.din.or.jp (8.11.7+Sun/3.7W) with ESMTP id i0MCDOn18198 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:13:24 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:15:40 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20040122.211540.730553513.satoshi@din.or.jp> To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org From: Satoshi Sato In-Reply-To: <20040117.162716.640900528.satoshi@din.or.jp> References: <0E972CEE334BFE4291CD07E056C76ED8CBBE15@bragi.housing.ufl.edu> <20040117.162716.640900528.satoshi@din.or.jp> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.2 on XEmacs 21.1.14 (Cuyahoga Valley) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: trouble with K8T Master2-FAR (dual Opteron) X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:13:27 -0000 Hello... I wrote Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 16:27:16 +0900 (JST) > Now I think, this is not amd64 problem. May be. I'll try i386 CD. I tried FreeBSD 5.2R/i386 install CD. I could boot normally. > If yours is 1.0, I'll try it. I down-graded to 1.0, but panic after "avail memory" still occur... Now, I'm subscribing freebsd-current ML. I could found some report like mine. So, I'll ask help at freebsd-current ML, too. Thanks for all suggestions. ---- Satoshi Sato From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 22 20:16:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35C8F16A4CE for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 20:16:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from server.rcrusoe.com (mailgate.rcrusoe.com [206.137.29.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A84E943D31 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 20:16:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from psturm@computervoice.com) Received: from paulsapt ([68.75.169.33]) by server.rcrusoe.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:15:31 -0600 Message-ID: <000c01c3e168$9014b370$21a94b44@paulsapt> From: "Paul Sturm" To: Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:22:50 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jan 2004 04:15:31.0351 (UTC) FILETIME=[8A3B0270:01C3E167] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Panic loading asr X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Sturm List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 04:16:39 -0000 I am trying to install the 5.2 for AMD64 on a Tyan S2882 dual processor = with 4GB of RAM. The kernel panic when loading the asr driver form my = Adaptec ZCR 2015S RAID. I have loaded 4.9 and 5.2 i386 with no problems = on the exact same machine. FWIW I also installed SuSE 9.0 i386 without a = problem, but when I tried SuSE 9.0 AMD64, it panicked with a page fault = loding the dpt_i2o driver. Any ideas? My ultimate objective is to = benchmark MySQL on 4.9, 5.2 i386, 5.2 amd64, as well as Suse in 32 and = 64 bit mode using the latest 2.4 and 2.6 kernels. Paul From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 22 22:44:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D96F616A4CE for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:44:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp3.server.rpi.edu (smtp3.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2271643D46 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:44:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from higgsr@rpi.edu) Received: from webmail.rpi.edu (webmail.rpi.edu [128.113.26.21]) by smtp3.server.rpi.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i0N6iAwC002949 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 01:44:10 -0500 Message-Id: <200401230644.i0N6iAwC002949@smtp3.server.rpi.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org From: higgsr@rpi.edu X-Originating-Ip: 24.29.54.98 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 1:44:10 EST X-Mailer: EMUmail 4.00 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . canit . ca) Subject: Re: freebsd-amd64 Digest, Vol 33, Issue 4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: higgsr@rpi.edu List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 06:44:13 -0000 > On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 11:16:01PM -0500, higgsr@rpi.edu wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I updated my ports collection yesterday and saw updates to mozilla. So > I > > built and installed it. Everything works great except that I am unable > to > > resize the mozilla windows. I am using fvwm2. Have I overlooked > something > > or is this a problem with mozilla? I realize that there are probably > still > > a bunch of 64 bit issues with mozilla. > > > > Thanks, > > Ray Higgs > > > > Hi Ray and all, > > Mozilla works well and the window resizes with no problems. Below is what > > I did and some notes on what I'm doing elsewhere. > > You got me to try it. Compiled mozilla-gtk2-1.6_1 with the flags that > usually > work. (more later) Works great, very fast and except for the lack of java > and > some forms of javascript, there are no obvious bugs and a good first im- > pression. GTK has worked in 64bit (AFAIK) from the beginning. If you are > using Motif, that could be the problem. (QT is also excellent in 64bit.) > > I run Gnome panel inside KDE. While some KDE apps don't perform that > well, > generally a Gnome equivalent one will. While xpdf is a bit shaky and > often goes out in a core-dump, gpdf is perfect. For that occasional .doc > file, antiword is especially good and very simple. AbiWord compiles but > that's about all -- very disappointing compared to its i386 counterpart. > > > In general, I use DPIC, -pipe (sometimes with a base -O) and -D__amd64__ > which is sometimes missed in makefiles when needed. For CXXFLAGS -fPIC is > allays safe and often makes the difference. The classic examples do work > but can produce allot of warnings, like -fmemoize-lookups -fsave-memoized > which only (AFAIK) speed up the compile. > > Sure, nobody needs it, but java would be nice. (for mozilla and beyond) > I'm trying but messing with that is madness. Sun certainly must be able > to help. (and i party with some of Sun's founders) > > On the kernel hacking, linprocfs works except for the Linux OS info which > could be pre-set anyways. Linux ABI support 'appears' just around the > corner > but 64bit Linux first! (Almost anything Unix compiles 64bit.) While I did > have a 32bit compat setup, things changed and i question how interesting > such a direction is. (If 32bit applications can run even close to 64bit, > then its interesting.) My personal observation is that its easy to make > mistakes working 32bit binaries in the amd64 that freeze the machine. > Per- > haps there is a standard way to be developed? I've had my Alpha for years > and are still happy with it today. While it is quite different than CISC > systems, I've learned lots over the years. (ev56, 21164 @ 533MHz) I'd > love > more Alpha's but they are too expensive relative to the amd64. > > Bill I originally installed mozilla from /usr/ports/www/mozilla, which gave me mozilla-1.6_1,2. Tonight I installed the GTK version (mozilla-gtk2-1.6_1) and everything works great, including window resizing! If you had not pointed out the version that you tried, I probably would have struggled through the rest of semester (school always seems to consume me) with a tall, narrow window. Thanks Bill! Ray From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 15:32:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9756C16A4CE; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:32:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org [192.58.184.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4626543D48; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:31:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i0NNVev9057309; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:31:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id i0NNVe7B057308; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:31:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:31:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200401232331.i0NNVe7B057308@cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org> X-Authentication-Warning: cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org: des set sender to Tinderbox using -f Sender: Tinderbox From: Tinderbox To: current@freebsd.org, amd64@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Subject: [current tinderbox] failure on amd64/amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:32:10 -0000 TB --- 2004-01-23 23:31:40 - tinderbox 2.2 running on cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org TB --- 2004-01-23 23:31:40 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for amd64/amd64 TB --- 2004-01-23 23:31:40 - cvsupping the source tree TB --- /usr/local/bin/cvsup -1 -g -L 2 /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/supfile TB --- 2004-01-23 23:31:40 - Can't exec "/usr/local/bin/cvsup": No such file or directory at /home/des/bin/tinderbox line 199. TB --- 2004-01-23 23:31:40 - child: exec(): No such file or directory TB --- 2004-01-23 23:31:40 - tinderbox aborted TB --- 2004-01-23 23:31:40 - TB --- /usr/local/bin/cvsup returned exit code 1 TB --- 2004-01-23 23:31:40 - TB --- ERROR: unable to cvsup the source tree TB --- 2004-01-23 23:31:40 - tinderbox aborted From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 15:39:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60E4616A4CE; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:39:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org [192.58.184.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E217C43D31; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:38:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i0NNcvv9057390; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:38:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id i0NNcvxN057389; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:38:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:38:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200401232338.i0NNcvxN057389@cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org> X-Authentication-Warning: cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org: des set sender to Tinderbox using -f Sender: Tinderbox From: Tinderbox To: current@freebsd.org, amd64@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Subject: [current tinderbox] failure on amd64/amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:39:47 -0000 TB --- 2004-01-23 23:38:57 - tinderbox 2.2 running on cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org TB --- 2004-01-23 23:38:57 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for amd64/amd64 TB --- 2004-01-23 23:38:57 - cvsupping the source tree TB --- /home/des/bin/cvsup -1 -g -L 2 /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/supfile TB --- 2004-01-23 23:38:57 - TB --- /home/des/bin/cvsup returned exit code 1 TB --- 2004-01-23 23:38:57 - TB --- ERROR: unable to cvsup the source tree TB --- 2004-01-23 23:38:57 - tinderbox aborted From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 17:52:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 734DC16A4CE for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 17:52:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from omega.metrics.com (ns.metrics.com [204.138.110.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E47F43D49 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 17:52:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tomh@waterloo.equitrac.com) Received: from syncro.metrics.com ([192.168.96.20]) by omega.metrics.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA26932 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 20:52:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by SYNCRO with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 20:51:43 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Haapanen, Tom" To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 20:51:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Subject: K8S Pro/Adaptec 2100S panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 01:52:57 -0000 I just picked up my new server today (Tyan K8S Pro, 2x Opteron 242, 2 GB DDR, 4x 36 GB SCSI on Adaptec 2100S), and promptly downloaded the hot-off-the-press 5.2-RELEASE mini CD image. Things appear to boot at first, but by the time the system gets to the SCSI RAID, things go bad. I get (typed by hand, 100% accuracy not guaranteed) ... asr0: 0xfa000000-0xfbffffff irq 27 at device 3 on pci2 asr0: major=154 fatal trap 9: general protection fault while in kernel mode cpuid = 0; apic id = 00 [...] current process = 0 (swapper) trap number = 9 panic: general protection fault cpuid = 0 uptime = 1s Shutting down ACPI [...] It looks like the asr driver is definitely not happy. Can it be made to work? And, if not, what is my alternative for a reasonably-priced hardware RAID adapter? Tom From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 24 05:52:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 327C816A4CE for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 05:52:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from server.rcrusoe.com (mailgate.rcrusoe.com [206.137.29.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D367443D2D for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 05:52:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from psturm@computervoice.com) Received: from paulsapt ([68.75.175.239]) by server.rcrusoe.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sat, 24 Jan 2004 07:50:22 -0600 Message-ID: <000601c3e282$0aefcf20$efaf4b44@paulsapt> From: "Paul Sturm" To: Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 07:57:44 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2004 13:50:22.0929 (UTC) FILETIME=[0339E410:01C3E281] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: K8S Pro/Adaptec 2100S panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Sturm List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:52:35 -0000 Tom, I am experiencing the same problem with the Adaptec 2015S ZCR RAID. asr = works fine in the 32 bit builds (4.9 and 5.2). Paul