From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 5 12:19:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B8516A4CE; Sun, 5 Sep 2004 12:19:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from Kain.sumuk.de (Kain.sumuk.de [213.221.86.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E5943D46; Sun, 5 Sep 2004 12:19:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vincent@sumuk.de) Received: from Goliath.earth.sol (Goliath.earth.sol [192.168.1.6]) by Kain.sumuk.de (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i85CJ9Lb082563; Sun, 5 Sep 2004 14:19:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from vincent@sumuk.de) Received: from Goliath.earth.sol (localhost.earth.sol [127.0.0.1]) by Goliath.earth.sol (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i85CJ9HS071637; Sun, 5 Sep 2004 14:19:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from vincent@Goliath.earth.sol) Received: (from vincent@localhost) by Goliath.earth.sol (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i85CJ9MS071636; Sun, 5 Sep 2004 14:19:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from vincent) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 14:19:09 +0200 From: Martin Heinen To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20040905121909.GA71348@sumuk.de> References: <20040902115754.GA3031@hub.freebsd.org> <20040903100634.GA12037@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <20040903103147.GA12219@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040903103147.GA12219@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Maintaining two bibliographies X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 12:19:12 -0000 On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 01:31:47PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > Is a rewrite of this chapter too disruptive a change to make close to a > release like we're now for the translation teams? Fine with me, please go ahead. -- Marxpitn From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 5 13:26:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40D3F16A4CE for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2004 13:26:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32C0F43D3F for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2004 13:26:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i85DQZMJ014632 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2004 13:26:35 GMT (envelope-from www@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i85DQYXN014631 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 5 Sep 2004 13:26:34 GMT (envelope-from www) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 13:26:34 GMT From: World Wide Web Owner Message-Id: <200409051326.i85DQYXN014631@www.freebsd.org> To: 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Fixed. -- | Hiroki SATO ----Security_Multipart(Sun_Sep__5_22_36_30_2004_180)-- Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBOxZhTyzT2CeTzy0RAnpoAJ0az6zqacqZJV6oRER2O+WuOOkX4wCg3QEh cqK+mFA33lYrLgSB5INvSGg= =nZav -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----Security_Multipart(Sun_Sep__5_22_36_30_2004_180)---- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 5 17:12:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD6AF16A4CE for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2004 17:12:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.eos.ocn.ne.jp (eos.ocn.ne.jp [222.146.51.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7129B43D72 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2004 17:12:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from delta.allbsd.org (p41145-adsao12honb4-acca.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp [219.161.230.145]) by smtp.eos.ocn.ne.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74DE12BC0 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2004 02:12:51 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (alph.allbsd.org [192.168.0.10]) by delta.allbsd.org (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i85HCPbT016690 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2004 02:12:26 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 02:10:54 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20040906.021054.90164860.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> To: doc@FreeBSD.org From: Hiroki Sato X-PGPkey-fingerprint: BDB3 443F A5DD B3D0 A530 FFD7 4F2C D3D8 2793 CF2D X-Mailer: Mew version 4.0.68 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="--Security_Multipart(Mon_Sep__6_02_10_55_2004_066)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: HEADS UP: doc/ tree tagging schedule X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 17:12:52 -0000 ----Security_Multipart(Mon_Sep__6_02_10_55_2004_066)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Just a reminder, here is doc/ related schedule for 5.3-RELEASE (see also http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.3R/schedule.html): 09/17: The doc/ tree slush begins. The purpose of the doc/ slush is to slow down the rate of change in that tree in order to allow the translation teams time to finalize their work and to avoid last-minute breakage for the 5.3-RELEASE. If we can resolve problems before this expected date, doc/ slush could start earlier (09/10 at earliest). As usual, doc/ slush is not a real freeze and requires no formal commit approval procedure for your commit, but you are kindly requested not to commit large, structural changes during that period. 09/24: The doc/ tagging for 5.3-RELEASE (RELEASE_5_3_0) is expected on September 24. For commit policy during 5.3R release engineering cycle, please read http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.3R/policy.html carefully. Documentation fixes are encouraged to be submitted as a PR and to be reviewed, and changes for docs in src/ (e.g. manual pages) should be committed the parent branch (currently HEAD) first. Especially if you think you will work on TODO items in http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.3R/todo.html, please contact doc@FreeBSD.org mailing-list and/or the responsible persons listed, and follow the policy in order to sort out outstanding problems. If you have trivial change (such as typo fix) which does not need to be reviewed closely, or you are not familiar with send-pr, feel free to submit your idea/suggestion/patch to doc@FreeBSD.org. If you are one of the committers and do not know if committing your patch is reasonable or not, please ask re@ (for src/) or doceng@ (for doc/). Basically, when it is small and do not need any technical review, you can commit it onto HEAD now. Thank you for your cooperation and keep up the good work! -- | Hiroki SATO ----Security_Multipart(Mon_Sep__6_02_10_55_2004_066)-- Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBO0ifTyzT2CeTzy0RAkOfAJsH7UiZWzd+xT1mGkW/joI8VBuZpwCdF9GS JFrx2V+dq4N/GfnuwUtIn3w= =fUbX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----Security_Multipart(Mon_Sep__6_02_10_55_2004_066)---- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 5 19:53:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 558BF16A4CE; Sun, 5 Sep 2004 19:53:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsdmall.com (ns1.freebsdmall.com [69.50.233.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4771D43D39; Sun, 5 Sep 2004 19:53:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: by mail.freebsdmall.com (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 882FD1CC2C; Sun, 5 Sep 2004 12:59:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 12:59:32 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040905195932.GG1107@freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D cc: doceng@freebsd.org Subject: More thoughts about slides X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 19:53:42 -0000 I've written a stylesheet layer on top of Norm's default slides stylesheet to render DocBook slides documents in a similar style to my usual OpenOffice template (faded daemon on a white background, blue header, see www.freebsd.org/~murray). We could have multiple stylesheet layers in the tree with a make variable to specify how the user would like the slides rendered. For example, Robert Watson's template (red/orange) would also be easy to write in XSL-FO. I'm writing slides for a presentation that I will give later this week at LinuxExpo Shanghai. That means the slides will contain : * What is FreeBSD? * Who uses FreeBSD? * FreeBSD Development Model (implicit comparison to Linux) * Differences with Linux * FreeBSD Release / Branch Terminology * Recent FreeBSD Releases * FreeBSD 5.3 etc.. Of these, most will be reusable by other presentations in the future. However, I'll probably talk about Linux more than would be the case if it weren't a Linux conference, or maybe the order or depth of those topics would be different. What is the best way to organize and encourage the re-use of these slides? One possibility is just to commit the presentation into one directory and make future presentation authors cut and paste the slide they want to reuse into their new presentation. In that case, I would commit the presentation to : doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/slides/200400909-linuxexpo (or similar). Another option would be to still commit a document into that directory, that s the more shareable slides from a 'common' directory : doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/slides/200400909-linuxexpo doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/slides/common/whatisfreebsd.xml doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/slides/common/freebsdreleases.xml doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/slides/common/freebsdvslinux.xml The files in the 'common' directory would pass through an intermediate stage in the build, so that they can include the contents of various variables (current release, last release date, some features from the release notes, etc..) from other XML/XSL parts of our documentation set. As far as tools, I've recently added support for USE_FOP and USE_XEP since PassiveTeX does not support the background-image property that I wanted for my stylesheet layer. XEP seems to be the clear leader for generating PDF output, but it is a commercial product. Apache's free FOP tool (java) is quite good. Any thoughts or suggestions about this process? If you're in the habit of giving presentations about FreeBSD, what would you look for to consider a DocBook/XML based solution over other (WYSIWYG) tools? Other ideas about ontology and creating a directory hierarchy that encourages more sharing of data between the Handbook, release notes, web site, slides, and other areas of our doc set? Thanks! - Murray From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 5 20:33:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C044D16A4CE; Sun, 5 Sep 2004 20:33:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC0C43D1D; Sun, 5 Sep 2004 20:33:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i85KXooZ047835; Sun, 5 Sep 2004 22:33:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i85KXo2A047834; Sun, 5 Sep 2004 22:33:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 22:33:50 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Murray Stokely Message-ID: <20040905203350.GB46611@abigail.blackend.org> References: <20040905195932.GG1107@freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040905195932.GG1107@freebsdmall.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.10-PRERELEASE cc: doceng@freebsd.org cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: More thoughts about slides X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 20:33:54 -0000 On Sun, Sep 05, 2004 at 12:59:32PM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote: [...] > As far as tools, I've recently added support for USE_FOP and USE_XEP > since PassiveTeX does not support the background-image property that I > wanted for my stylesheet layer. XEP seems to be the clear leader for > generating PDF output, but it is a commercial product. Apache's free > FOP tool (java) is quite good. > > Any thoughts or suggestions about this process? If you're in the > habit of giving presentations about FreeBSD, what would you look for > to consider a DocBook/XML based solution over other (WYSIWYG) tools? [...] I use to do slides with prosper, it's very flexible and just uses the vanilla teTeX port; therefore no problem to generate the pdf file. I would use DocBook slides just for very simple slides without animation, graphics or sophisticated layout. In fact last time I looked in DocBook slides, I realised that it'd require a lot of work to do a custom complicated layout. It's why we really need some good templates to use. Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 5 23:28:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90B4316A4CE; Sun, 5 Sep 2004 23:28:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from b.mail.sonic.net (b.mail.sonic.net [64.142.19.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A41243D3F; Sun, 5 Sep 2004 23:28:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bmah@freebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.2.126] (adsl-64-142-31-109.sonic.net [64.142.31.109]) (authenticated bits=0) by b.mail.sonic.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i85NSUZF031972 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sun, 5 Sep 2004 16:28:31 -0700 From: "Bruce A. Mah" To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-nhL/WcP0jxyRvbtB5oFS" Message-Id: <1094426835.767.50.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 16:27:15 -0700 cc: "Bruce A. Mah" Subject: RFC: 5.3 Migration Guide X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 23:28:31 -0000 --=-nhL/WcP0jxyRvbtB5oFS Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy-- I've volunteered to rework the 5.X Early Adopters Guide into a Migration Guide. The focus of this document is less about discouraging unwary users and more about what kinds of changes users might encounter when they move from 4.X to 5.X. I'd like to solicit a pre-commit review on the document at: http://people.freebsd.org/~bmah/pub/article.html A PDF rendering, as well as SGML source, also live in the same directory. The area I'm the most shaky on is the source upgrade procedure, which is basically an annotated version of the procedure in src/UPDATING. I haven't done this procedure in a *long* time, and I'm kind of short on scratch systems (=3D> none) at the moment for testing the procedure. In retrospect, I didn't actually plan on including this section, and I might have been less eager to take on this task if I'd know it was coming. :-) trhodes and scottl provided some helpful feedback on an earlier draft of this document. Thanks for any comments... Bruce. PS. This document will basically replace the EAG for 5.3. On HEAD, we should probably disable or kill the EAG. It's served its purpose (I think) and when it comes back in time for 6.0, it probably won't bear much resemblance to its current incarnation. --=-nhL/WcP0jxyRvbtB5oFS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBO6DT2MoxcVugUsMRAvItAJ9Pvp9D0TqBsJlgvA3qkSnd7FS9SQCggqqQ IOYn6j27ZsLku9aobnQbzdo= =jHfL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-nhL/WcP0jxyRvbtB5oFS-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 6 00:06:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C754116A4CE; Mon, 6 Sep 2004 00:06:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from meitner.wh.uni-dortmund.de (meitner.wh.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.129.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58DC343D1D; Mon, 6 Sep 2004 00:06:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Received: from lofi.dyndns.org (pc2-105.intern.meitner [10.3.12.105]) by meitner.wh.uni-dortmund.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DDD9167510; Mon, 6 Sep 2004 02:06:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kiste.my.domain (lofi@kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8606LVm026931 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 6 Sep 2004 02:06:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) From: Michael Nottebrock To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 02:06:13 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <1094426835.767.50.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1094426835.767.50.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1198545.tutqnPKgsl"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200409060206.21145.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new cc: "Bruce A. Mah" cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: 5.3 Migration Guide X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 00:06:26 -0000 --nextPart1198545.tutqnPKgsl Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 06 September 2004 01:27, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > Howdy-- > > I've volunteered to rework the 5.X Early Adopters Guide into a Migration > Guide. The focus of this document is less about discouraging unwary > users and more about what kinds of changes users might encounter when > they move from 4.X to 5.X. > > I'd like to solicit a pre-commit review on the document at: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~bmah/pub/article.html Nice document! One thing I'm missing: The pthread libraries change probably requires people to recompile things=20 linked to it if they're migrating from 4.x - users updating from 5.x-Releas= es=20 can get away with setting up libmap.conf (maybe this is true for updating=20 from 4.x as well, can some threads expert comment on it?). =2D-=20 ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org --nextPart1198545.tutqnPKgsl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBO6n9Xhc68WspdLARApQcAJ9MRs1U9pRuoWZqgWJ03Vf19Flo/gCbBd3K i6pvZ7bCs0vQjH0nUb1ZESM= =Srb4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1198545.tutqnPKgsl-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 6 00:24:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD04F16A4CE; Mon, 6 Sep 2004 00:24:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (rrcs-midsouth-24-172-16-118.biz.rr.com [24.172.16.118]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204C643D5A; Mon, 6 Sep 2004 00:24:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (shumai.marcuscom.com [192.168.1.4]) i860LZA0060735; Sun, 5 Sep 2004 20:21:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) From: Joe Marcus Clarke To: Michael Nottebrock In-Reply-To: <200409060206.21145.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> References: <1094426835.767.50.camel@localhost> <200409060206.21145.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-Bt+T2m5IVKDP4xcekUuz" Organization: MarcusCom, Inc. Message-Id: <1094430249.25711.8.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 20:24:09 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on creme-brulee.marcuscom.com cc: "Bruce A. Mah" cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: 5.3 Migration Guide X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 00:24:19 -0000 --=-Bt+T2m5IVKDP4xcekUuz Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 20:06, Michael Nottebrock wrote: > On Monday 06 September 2004 01:27, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > Howdy-- > > > > I've volunteered to rework the 5.X Early Adopters Guide into a Migratio= n > > Guide. The focus of this document is less about discouraging unwary > > users and more about what kinds of changes users might encounter when > > they move from 4.X to 5.X. > > > > I'd like to solicit a pre-commit review on the document at: > > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~bmah/pub/article.html >=20 > Nice document! >=20 > One thing I'm missing: >=20 > The pthread libraries change probably requires people to recompile things= =20 > linked to it if they're migrating from 4.x - users updating from 5.x-Rele= ases=20 > can get away with setting up libmap.conf (maybe this is true for updating= =20 > from 4.x as well, can some threads expert comment on it?). Users should really rebuild ALL ports when upgrading from 4.X to 5.3-RELEASE. Only simple applications that only rely on libraries in compat4x will work correctly. Others, for example GTK+ apps, may link to both libc_r.so.4 and libpthread.so.1. That could spell disaster. I would also mention /usr/ports/UPDATING in this document. There are a lot of useful hints in there when it comes to upgrading things such as Perl and X (as well as the recently recent KDE 3.3). Plus, it would give this file much needed publicity. Joe --=20 PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc --=-Bt+T2m5IVKDP4xcekUuz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBO64pb2iPiv4Uz4cRAttYAJ9fgoC+f4xhvptDynTkiaRSk04iXgCfbyxD AGKh6EPJ19IezIQGZRYeRaw= =9N1n -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-Bt+T2m5IVKDP4xcekUuz-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 6 07:30:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF0616A4CE; Mon, 6 Sep 2004 07:30:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 444B743D39; Mon, 6 Sep 2004 07:30:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@linux.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])i867URqO028346; Mon, 6 Sep 2004 10:30:28 +0300 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) i867UEgN054583; Mon, 6 Sep 2004 10:30:14 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@linux.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)i867UEMo054573; Mon, 6 Sep 2004 10:30:14 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@linux.gr) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 10:30:14 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Bruce A. Mah" Message-ID: <20040906073014.GA13651@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <1094426835.767.50.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1094426835.767.50.camel@localhost> cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: 5.3 Migration Guide X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 07:30:33 -0000 On 2004-09-05 16:27, "Bruce A. Mah" wrote: > > I'd like to solicit a pre-commit review on the document at: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~bmah/pub/article.html In section 4: On the i386 and pc98 platforms, a UserConfig utility exists on 4.X to allow boot-time configuration of ISA devices when booting from installation media. Under FreeBSD 5.X, this functionality has been replaced in part by the device.hints(5) mechanism (it allows specifying the same parameters, but with a very different interface). Do you think we should add a note about why the change was made? Having to learn something new regarding boot-time kernel configuration is probably going to raise a few complaints, but at least we can explain in a few short words why the change was made :-) From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 6 10:58:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2F0416A4CE for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2004 10:58:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from marlabs.com (mail01.austin.marlabs.com [204.1.4.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4CF943D31 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2004 10:58:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from virusalert@marlabs.com) Received: (qmail 32662 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2004 10:22:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) ([127.0.0.1]) (envelope-sender ) by marlabs.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 6 Sep 2004 10:22:46 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 05:22:46 -0500 (CDT) From: virusalert@marlabs.com To: Message-Id: Subject: VIRUS (W32/Netsky-P) IN MAIL TO YOU (from (?)) 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Powered By Marlabs http://www.marlabs.com From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 6 11:01:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12B6416A4CE for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2004 11:01:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4E2343D45 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2004 11:01:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i86B1INj093447 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2004 11:01:18 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i86B1Fwt093442 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 6 Sep 2004 11:01:15 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 11:01:15 GMT Message-Id: <200409061101.i86B1Fwt093442@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 11:01:19 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The problem is understood and a solution is being sought. f - feedback Further work requires additional information from the originator or the community - possibly confirmation of the effectiveness of a proposed solution. p - patched A patch has been committed, but some issues (MFC and / or confirmation from originator) are still open. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on, due to lack of information or resources. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested -- or when fixing the problem is abandoned. Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s [1999/10/04] i386/14135 doc lpt1 nolonger exists after 3.2-RELEASE s [2000/07/19] docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags o [2001/05/24] docs/27605 doc Cross-document references () s [2002/03/08] docs/35678 doc docproj Makefiles for web are broken for o [2002/03/21] docs/36168 doc -pthread/_THREAD_SAFE docs missing in gcc o [2002/09/14] docs/42762 doc ppp.8 has no description of $env and ~use o [2002/11/15] docs/45303 doc Bug in PDF DocBook rendering o [2003/12/29] docs/60679 doc pthreads documentation does not describe o [2004/01/19] docs/61558 doc New SMC 2602W cards, using the ADM8211, a o [2004/01/20] docs/61605 doc Improve documentation for i386 disk geome o [2004/02/10] docs/62665 doc setting up X display subsystem function i o [2004/03/10] docs/64063 doc Size of block in File System Quota docume o [2004/08/18] docs/70616 doc incompleteness and error in su(1) man pag o [2004/08/25] docs/70952 doc Handbook section 16.6.2 has bad example o [2004/09/04] docs/71359 doc /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf contain 15 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2001/02/02] docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) o [2001/04/02] docs/26286 doc *printf(3) etc should gain format string o [2001/07/26] docs/29245 doc top(1) manpage doesn't understand SMP a [2001/08/23] docs/30008 doc This document should be translated, comme p [2001/09/27] docs/30873 doc ``ip'' man page does not specify byte ord o [2001/10/07] docs/31109 doc replace gif images w/ png ones due to pat o [2002/01/05] docs/33589 doc Patch to doc.docbook.mk to post process . o [2002/01/14] docs/33852 doc split(1) man page implies that input file o [2002/01/14] docs/33877 doc Documentet behaviour of SF_flags for non- a [2002/02/16] docs/35011 doc There are no commands called "diskless" o o [2002/02/22] docs/35222 doc mailing list archive URL regexp suboptima o [2002/03/06] docs/35608 doc mt(1) page uses "setmark" without explana o [2002/03/06] docs/35609 doc mt(1) page needs explanation of "long era o [2002/03/06] docs/35612 doc ps(1) page "state" description doesn't me o [2002/03/07] docs/35642 doc lo(4) page maybe should document optional o [2002/03/07] docs/35644 doc lo(4) page presumes familiarity with prin o [2002/03/07] docs/35646 doc cp(1) page needs a "Bugs" section. o [2002/03/07] docs/35648 doc rc.conf; add note about "flags" to both f o [2002/03/08] docs/35686 doc blackhole(4) page seems to contradict its o [2002/03/08] docs/35687 doc /etc/nsmb.conf missing mention of readers o [2002/03/10] docs/35732 doc adduser(8) page has obsolete reference an o [2002/03/16] docs/35943 doc at(1) config files are misplaced in /var/ o [2002/03/16] docs/35953 doc hosts.equiv(5) manual is confusing or wro o [2002/03/28] docs/36432 doc Proposal for doc/share/mk: make folded bo o [2002/03/29] docs/36449 doc symlink(7) manual doesn't mention trailin s [2002/05/07] docs/37843 doc manual for pthread_setschedparam is wrong o [2002/05/18] docs/38225 doc change "CDROM" to "CD-ROM" o [2002/05/25] docs/38556 doc EPS file of beastie, as addition to exist o [2002/05/27] docs/38620 doc Committers Guide and CVS o [2002/05/31] docs/38772 doc firewall_type feature not mentioned on Ha o [2002/06/07] docs/38982 doc developers-hanbook/Jail fix p [2002/06/08] docs/39044 doc The man page for rot13(6) never mentions o [2002/06/13] docs/39213 doc No rc(4) man page o [2002/06/15] docs/39348 doc kenv fetch of hostname requires dhcp/boot o [2002/06/19] docs/39530 doc access(2) man page has unnecessarily broa o [2002/06/25] docs/39824 doc Various tweaks for doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/bo o [2002/07/10] docs/40423 doc Keyboard(4)'s definition of parameters to o [2002/07/11] docs/40443 doc Update books/faq/book.sgml for USB .ko's o [2002/07/21] docs/40851 doc [PATCH] "mergemaster -p" in UPDATING's "C o [2002/07/28] docs/41089 doc pax -B option does not mention interactio o [2002/08/02] docs/41270 doc confusing directions for kernelconfig cha o [2002/08/19] docs/41791 doc Documentation formatting error o [2002/08/20] docs/41807 doc natd -punch_fw "bug" o [2002/08/20] docs/41820 doc Device driver confusion in Handbook (2.3) a [2002/08/27] docs/42058 doc Documentation: Installing Oracle 8i onto o [2002/10/04] docs/43651 doc stab(5) incorrectly states to include jus o [2002/10/09] docs/43861 doc non-trivial typo in wicontrol man page o [2002/10/11] docs/43941 doc Rationale for Upgrade Sequence o [2002/10/15] docs/44074 doc ln(1) manual clarifications [patch] o [2002/10/23] docs/44400 doc ipfw(8) has contradictions in bridged and o [2002/10/24] docs/44435 doc sysctl manpage: add example for tcsh o [2002/10/29] docs/44594 doc Handbook doesn't mention drivers.flp for o [2002/12/02] docs/45940 doc burncd missing info o [2002/12/11] docs/46196 doc Missing return value in (set_)menu_format o [2002/12/16] docs/46291 doc correlation between HZ kernel config para o [2002/12/16] docs/46295 doc please add information to Nvi recovery em o [2003/01/06] docs/46793 doc DEVICE_POLLING can not be used with SMP, o [2003/01/28] docs/47575 doc Clarify requirements for IPFW2 in STABLE o [2003/01/28] docs/47594 doc [PATH] passwd(5) incorrectly states allow o [2003/01/30] docs/47690 doc builtin(1) manpage is wrong about externa o [2003/01/31] docs/47705 doc wc(1) manpage has poor explanations. f [2003/02/02] docs/47818 doc ln(1) manpage is confusing f [2003/02/07] docs/48038 doc [PATCH] add Tips and Tricks section into o [2003/02/28] docs/48767 doc wrong key numbers for left/right windows o [2003/03/06] docs/48980 doc [PATCH] nsgmls -s errors and sect. 3.2.1 o [2003/03/23] docs/50211 doc [PATCH] Fix textfile creation o [2003/04/03] docs/50573 doc return values for res_query/res_search/re o [2003/04/07] docs/50677 doc [PATCH] update doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/ o [2003/04/10] docs/50773 doc NFS problems by jumbo frames to mention i o [2003/05/06] docs/51875 doc atkbd(4) adjustment o [2003/05/06] docs/51891 doc DIAGNOSTICS in ed driver manpage don't ma o [2003/05/07] docs/51921 doc ls(1) manpage lacks some information abou o [2003/05/11] docs/52071 doc [PATCH] Add more information about soft u o [2003/05/25] docs/52672 doc Porter's Handbook: couple of corrections o [2003/06/13] docs/53303 doc mount(2) man page error o [2003/06/21] docs/53575 doc Change to Handbook Section 20.9 o [2003/06/21] docs/53596 doc Updates to mt manual page o [2003/06/25] docs/53732 doc quota output and man page do not document o [2003/07/13] docs/54451 doc [patch] i386_{get|set}_ldt manual page is o [2003/07/26] docs/54879 doc man 1 jot, -r description o [2003/08/12] docs/55482 doc DUMP has access to block devices in a JAI o [2003/08/17] docs/55653 doc chflags.1 - note that not all tools chfla o [2003/09/24] docs/57153 doc S_IRWXU missing in fstat(2) man page? o [2003/09/30] docs/57388 doc INSTALL.TXT enhancement: mention ok promp o [2003/10/04] docs/57569 doc error on gensetdefs(8) man page o [2003/10/13] docs/57926 doc amd.conf.5 poorly format as it has both m o [2003/10/13] docs/57974 doc man page apropos for select macros (FD_SE o [2003/10/13] docs/57978 doc Type miss of GPIB in Hardware Notes o [2003/10/16] docs/58111 doc Handbook 12.4.3 Rebuilding ATA RAID1 Arra o [2003/10/28] docs/58615 doc update for Vinum chapter of Handbook: des o [2003/10/30] docs/58710 doc killpg(2) contains an error regarding sen o [2003/11/07] docs/59044 doc doc.docbook.mk does not properly handle a o [2003/11/19] docs/59477 doc Outdated Info Documents at http://docs.fr o [2003/11/21] docs/59565 doc [PATCH] FAQ doesn't cover definition of g o [2003/11/24] docs/59649 doc Outdated 4.4BSD Documents at http://docs. o [2003/11/30] docs/59835 doc ipfw(8) man page does not warn about acce o [2003/12/23] docs/60529 doc resolver(5) man page is badly out of date o [2003/12/24] docs/60544 doc getenv(3) manpage doesn't state the retur o [2004/01/08] docs/61070 doc Installation docs misleading: PResizer i o [2004/01/13] docs/61301 doc [patch] Manpage patch for aue(4) to enabl o [2004/01/21] docs/61667 doc Obsolete documentation on FreeBSD PnP o [2004/01/25] docs/61859 doc Incorrect informaiton about trace command o [2004/01/25] docs/61878 doc LSI megaraid 150-x cards not included in o [2004/02/04] docs/62364 doc Misleading information in the handbook o [2004/02/05] docs/62402 doc easily circumventable Blade150 problem o [2004/02/06] docs/62412 doc one of the diskless boot methods describe o [2004/02/12] docs/62719 doc cross-reference pccardd and devd o [2004/02/12] docs/62724 doc host(1) manpage does not include informat o [2004/02/16] docs/62914 doc Reference development(7) in other parts o o [2004/02/22] docs/63215 doc Wrong prototypes in mi_switch(9) (ref doc o [2004/03/03] docs/63676 doc [patch] Fix some tag errors. o [2004/03/03] docs/63719 doc lptcontrol(8) manpage omits -s from a lis o [2004/03/05] docs/63808 doc No manpage for devfs.conf o [2004/03/27] docs/64807 doc Handbook section on NAT incomplete o [2004/04/02] docs/65065 doc improper language ntpd man pages o [2004/04/13] docs/65477 doc Installation Instruction fail to mention o [2004/04/14] docs/65530 doc minor improvement to getgrent.3 o [2004/04/22] docs/65895 doc incorrect "omshell" link in "dhclient" ma o [2004/04/26] docs/65988 doc incorrect references to ppp.conf in handb o [2004/04/29] docs/66091 doc ppp(8) docs out-of-date for -CURRENT o [2004/05/04] docs/66264 doc [patch] libexec/rtld/rtld.1 typo fixes no o [2004/05/04] docs/66265 doc [patch] Document what -f and LD_TRACE_LOA o [2004/05/05] docs/66296 doc [patch] contrib/amd/amq/amq.8 uses log_op o [2004/05/07] docs/66343 doc unlisted supported card on man page for w o [2004/05/09] docs/66426 doc handbook update (desktop section): web br o [2004/05/10] docs/66483 doc [patch] share/man/man4/csa.4 grammar nits o [2004/05/17] docs/66768 doc 4_RELENG share/man/man4/ng_one2many.4 MFC o [2004/05/17] docs/66770 doc [patch] share/man/man4/ng_pppoe.4 tyops, o [2004/05/23] docs/67078 doc [patch] MFC of a rtld(1) man page is inco f [2004/06/10] docs/67806 doc Let 5.x users know how to boot into singl o [2004/06/13] docs/67893 doc boot.8's -m description is insufficient. o [2004/06/28] docs/68453 doc [patch] rc.subr.8 o [2004/07/02] docs/68606 doc Porter's Handbook: document how to write o [2004/07/09] docs/68843 doc Dates on rc.subr(8) & rc(8) are whack. o [2004/07/09] docs/68845 doc The .At macro produces unexpected results o [2004/07/19] docs/69271 doc Porter's Handbook: hint on proper pkg-mes o [2004/07/21] docs/69383 doc disklabel = bsdlabel in 5.X or later o [2004/08/03] docs/69968 doc minor clarification in mac glossary o [2004/08/09] docs/70217 doc Suggested rewrite of docproj/sgml.sgml o [2004/08/11] docs/70310 doc [PATCH] Add information about DragonFly o [2004/08/16] docs/70506 doc re_format(7) contains many extra '=' o [2004/08/17] docs/70583 doc [PATCH] Update freebsd-glossary o [2004/08/19] docs/70652 doc New man page: portindex(5) o [2004/08/23] docs/70856 doc List of flags and their aliases in `man 1 o [2004/08/24] docs/70916 doc msync.2 manpage update o [2004/08/25] docs/70943 doc remove -k from gdb.1 manual 146 problems total. 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Mah" cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: 5.3 Migration Guide X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 18:27:03 -0000 --Boundary-00=_SwKPBJAGFNOId5W Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 05 September 2004 07:27 pm, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > Howdy-- > > I've volunteered to rework the 5.X Early Adopters Guide into a Migration > Guide. The focus of this document is less about discouraging unwary > users and more about what kinds of changes users might encounter when > they move from 4.X to 5.X. > > I'd like to solicit a pre-commit review on the document at: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~bmah/pub/article.html > OK, you asked :-). Attached are suggested cosmetic changes to the English. If this is premature, my apologies to all for wasting the bandwidth. -LenZ- > A PDF rendering, as well as SGML source, also live in the same > directory. > > The area I'm the most shaky on is the source upgrade procedure, which is > basically an annotated version of the procedure in src/UPDATING. I > haven't done this procedure in a *long* time, and I'm kind of short on > scratch systems (=> none) at the moment for testing the procedure. In > retrospect, I didn't actually plan on including this section, and I > might have been less eager to take on this task if I'd know it was > coming. :-) > > trhodes and scottl provided some helpful feedback on an earlier draft of > this document. > > Thanks for any comments... > > Bruce. > > PS. This document will basically replace the EAG for 5.3. On HEAD, we > should probably disable or kill the EAG. It's served its purpose (I > think) and when it comes back in time for 6.0, it probably won't bear > much resemblance to its current incarnation. --Boundary-00=_SwKPBJAGFNOId5W Content-Type: text/x-diff; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="article.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="article.diff" --- article.sgml Mon Sep 6 14:00:00 2004 +++ changed_article.sgml Mon Sep 6 13:58:03 2004 @@ -62,42 +62,42 @@ Introduction &os; &release.5branchpoint; marks the beginning of a new - &os.stable; series of releases. From this point - forward, releases in the &release.5x; series will be targeted - towards production usage, in much the same way as the prior + &os.stable; series of releases. After this, + releases in the &release.5x; series will be targeted + towards production usage in much the same way as the prior &release.4x; series of releases. - This article addresses a number of topics and issues that - are of interest to users updating from a &release.4x; release to + This article addresses a number of topics and issues + of interest to users updating from a &release.4x; release to &release.5branchpoint;. It begins with a brief overview of current release engineering practices and then describes some of the new features available with the &os; &release.5x; series. - Perhaps the most crucial section of this document lists issues + Perhaps the most important section lists issues where major changes have taken place, user-visible behavior has changed, or external software interfaces have been modified. Last are some notes on upgrading existing &os; &release.4x; - systems to &os; &release.5branchpoint;, both from binaries or - source. + systems to &os; &release.5branchpoint;, from binaries or + from source. An Overview of the &os; Release Process - &os; employs a model of development that relies on multiple - development branches within the source code repository. The main branch is called + &os; employs a development model relying on multiple + branches within the source code repository. The main branch is called CURRENT, and is referred to in the CVS repository with the HEAD tag. New features are - committed first to this branch; although this means that CURRENT - is the first to see new functionality, it also means that it + committed first to this branch; although CURRENT + is the first to see new functionality, it also occasionally suffers from breakages as new features are added and debugged. Most &os; releases are made from one of several - STABLE branches. Features are only added to - these branches after some amount of testing in CURRENT. For the + STABLE branches. Features are added to + these branches omly after some amount of testing in CURRENT. For the past two years, - the only STABLE branch was under active development + the only STABLE branch under active development was known as 4-STABLE, and all of the &os; &release.4x; releases were based on it. This branch has the tag RELENG_4 in the @@ -115,12 +115,12 @@ (specifically, during the 5.3 release cycle). This delay gave time for the development team to complete needed architectural changes, stabilize the system, finalize various interfaces, and - in general create a good starting point for the remaining + create a good starting point for the remaining &release.5x; releases. Aside from general improvements and bug fixes, a major - priority for development on the 5-STABLE development branch is - the preservation of ABI/API compatibility. Any changes that + priority on the 5-STABLE development branch is + the preservation of ABI (Application Binary Interface)/API (Application Program Interface) compatibility. Any changes that could break backward compatibility (including kernel or library interfaces) are strongly discouraged, and will not be permitted except as a last-resort solution to a critical problem. @@ -128,19 +128,20 @@ The past two stable branches (3-STABLE and 4-STABLE) were created very soon after their respective dot-oh releases (their branchpoints were 3.1 and 4.0, respectively). In hindsight, this - practice did not give sufficient time for either CURRENT + did not give sufficient time for either CURRENT to stabilize before the new branches were created. This in turn resulted in wasted effort porting bug - fixes between branches, as well as some architectural changes + fixes between branches, as well as creating some architectural changes that could not be ported between branches at all. The next release from CURRENT will likely be 6.0-RELEASE, - created from CVS HEAD. As of the 5.3 release - date, there is no firm date for 6.0, although this release is + created from CVS HEAD. There is no firm date for 6.0, + as of the 5.3 release + date, although it is expected sometime in 2006. A limited amount of development will continue on the - 4-STABLE development branch. At least one more release (4.11) is + 4-STABLE development branch, with at least one more release (4.11) planned at some point after 5.3-RELEASE. For especially conservative users, it may be reasonable to continue using the &release.4x; releases for a time. The @@ -164,7 +165,7 @@ A large attraction of &os; &release.5x; is a number of new features, generally involving - large architectural changes that were not feasible to port back to + large architectural changes it was not feasible to port back to the &os; 4-STABLE development branch. (By contrast, many self-contained enhancements, such as new device drivers or userland utilities, have already been ported.) A brief, but not @@ -173,7 +174,7 @@ SMPng: The next generation support for - SMP machines (work in progress). + SMP (Shared Memory Multiprocessor) machines (work in progress). Ongoing work aims to perform fine-grained locking of various kernel subsystems to increase the number of threads of execution that can be running in the kernel. Particular @@ -216,7 +217,7 @@ GEOM: A flexible, modular framework for transformation of disk I/O requests. This system supports a number of features - related to disks and volumes, such as: Recognition of disk + related to disks and volumes, including: Recognition of disk partitions, the &man.gbde.4; disk encryption facility, various levels of RAID functionality, network export of disk devices (with &man.ggated.8 and related utilities), and @@ -233,7 +234,7 @@ UFS2: A new UFS2 on-disk format has been added, which supports extended per-file attributes and larger file sizes. UFS2 is now the default format for &man.newfs.8;. - On all platforms except for pc98, filesystems created from + On all platforms except pc98, filesystems created from within &man.sysinstall.8; will use UFS2 by default. @@ -248,7 +249,7 @@ New hardware support: Support for more hardware devices, such as Cardbus and Bluetooth devices and IEEE 802.11a/b/g - network interfaces based on Atheros chipsets. In addition, + network interfaces based on Atheros chipsets. Also, on the i386 architecture, some network devices not explicitly supported by &os; drivers may be supported using vendor drivers for µsoft; &windows; and the @@ -265,10 +266,10 @@ Notable Changes Some of the differences between &os; &release.4x; and - &release.5x; deserve some special mention, because they involve + &release.5x; deserve special mention because they involve major architectural changes, or break backwards compatibility in some way. While these changes are unlikely to cause a loss of - data, they may cause some confusion for the unwary. Some + data, they could cause some confusion for the unwary. Some notable examples are: @@ -277,9 +278,9 @@ Several parts of &os;'s base system functionality have - been removed to the &os; Ports Collection, typically because + been moved to the &os; Ports Collection, usually because they are easier to maintain in that form or because they - were not really found to be essential parts of the system. + were not really essential parts of the system. The most noticeable example of this is Perl (available in the &os; Ports Collection as - Because of changes in kernel data structures and - ABIs/APIs, many third-party binary device drivers require - modifications to work correctly under &os; &release.5x;. In + Changes in kernel data structures and APBs/APIs meant + many third-party binary device drivers had to be modified before they would + work correctly under &os; &release.5x; + In some (hopefully rare) cases, user-visible data structures - have changed, requiring recompiling of applications or - reinstallation of ports/packages. As with the case for the + have changed, requiring recompilation of applications or + reinstallation of ports/packages. As with the &release.4x; release train, the &os; development team has - made it a goal not to allow incompatible changes in future + the goal of not to allowing incompatible changes in future releases on the &release.5x; branch. - Some parts of the &os; base system have fallen into a - state of disrepair due to a lack of users and maintainers. - These have been removed. Specific examples include the + A shortage of users and maintainers caused some parts of the &os; + base system to fall into disrepair. + These have been removed. Examples include the generation of a.out-style executables, Note that execution of a.out @@ -332,18 +334,17 @@ On the i386 and pc98 platforms, a UserConfig utility - exists on &release.4x; to allow boot-time configuration of + exists on &release.4x; allowing boot-time configuration of ISA devices when booting from installation media. Under &os; &release.5x;, this functionality has been replaced in - part by the &man.device.hints.5; mechanism (it allows - specifying the same parameters, but with a very different + part by the &man.device.hints.5; mechanism (the same parameters, can be specified, but with a very different interface). MAKEDEV is no longer available, nor is it required. FreeBSD &release.5x; uses a device - filesystem, which automatically creates device nodes on + filesystem, automatically creating device nodes on demand. More information can be found in the &man.devfs.5; manual page. @@ -354,7 +355,7 @@ it is also the default for file systems created using the disk labeling screen within &man.sysinstall.8;. Because &os; &release.4x; only understands UFS1 (not UFS2), disk - partitions that need to be accessed by both &release.5x; and + partitions that must be accessed by both &release.5x; and &release.4x; must be created with UFS1. This can be specified using the option to &man.newfs.8;, or on the disk labeling screen in @@ -368,27 +369,25 @@ - Due to the upgraded GCC - compiler, C++ programs generally need to be recompiled and - reinstalled. This requirement comes from changes in the C++ - ABI. + Changes in the C++ ABI in the upgraded GCC + generally require that C++ programs be recompiled and + reinstalled. - With the exception of C++ programs described above, it + With the exception of C++ programs as described above, it is generally possible to run old &release.4x; executables - under &release.5x;, but this requires the - compat4x distribution to be installed + under &release.5x;, if the + compat4x distribution is installed (this distribution can also be installed with the misc/compat4x port or package). - This statement extends to the case of ports and packages as - well, although there are a number of known cases of backward - incompatibility. As an example, the statfs + structure require the recompilation of the devel/gnomevfs2, mail/postfix, and security/cfs ports need to be - recompiled due to changes in the statfs - structure. + role="package">security/cfs ports. + @@ -396,10 +395,10 @@ The &xorg; implementation of the X Window System is the default for &os; &release.5x; - beginning with 5.3-RELEASE. As of this writing, + beginning with 5.3-RELEASE. At this writing, &xfree86; remains the default for &os; &release.4x;. More information on the differences - between these different versions, as well as upgrade + between these versions, as well as upgrade information for existing systems, can be found in the The X Window System chapter in the &os; Handbook. @@ -446,9 +445,9 @@ advantage of new functionality (most notably, the UFS2 defaults). - As of this writing, the binary upgrade option in + At this writing, the binary upgrade option in &man.sysinstall.8; has not been well-tested for - cross-major-version upgrades. Using this feature is not + cross-major-version upgrades. Use of this feature is not recommended. Several changes may be of interest to those users @@ -456,18 +455,18 @@ Installation floppies (on platforms that support them, such i386 and pc98), are organized somewhat differently than on prior releases. On &release.4x; releases, the floppy set - contained a stripped-down kernel that contained - enough functionality to install the system. This arrangement - was necessary to allow the kernel to fit on a single floppy - disk, but the kernel lacked the device drivers required by - certain hardware configurations. Beginning with &os; + contained a stripped-down kernel with + enough functionality to install the system. This + allowed the kernel to fit on a single floppy + disk, but it lacked the device drivers required by + some hardware configurations. Beginning with &os; 5.3-RELEASE, the installation floppies contain a standard GENERIC kernel segmented across multiple - disks. This kernel has a much more complete set of drivers + disks. it has a much more complete set of drivers and features. The boot loader prompts for the insertion of additional disks as required. Users downloading floppy images - (perhaps to perform a network-based installation) should take - note of the fact the the floppy disk set now includes three + (perhaps to perform a network-based installation) should + note that the the floppy disk set now includes three disks: boot.flp, kern1.flp, and kern2.flp. @@ -475,9 +474,8 @@ CDROM-based installations on the i386 architecture now use a no-emulation boot loader. This allows, among other things, the use of a GENERIC kernel, - rather than the stripped-down kernels used on the floppy - images in previous versions. In - general, any system capable of booting the µsoft; + rather than the stripped-down kernels of floppy + images of previous versions. Generally,any system that can boot the µsoft; &windowsnt; 4, &windows2k;, or &windowsxp; installation CDROMs should be able to boot the &os; &release.5x; CDROMs. @@ -487,42 +485,41 @@ Source Upgrades - In general, many users and developers have found it easier + Many users and developers have found it easier to backup all their data and configuration files (a wise precaution in any case), perform a binary installation - (such as from CDROM), and restore their data. Compared to a - source upgrade, the binary upgrade removes the need to deal - with leftover files and programs on the disk, and allows the - system to take advantage of new filesystem features such as the - UFS2 filesystem layout. + (such as from CDROM), and restore their data. This allows + the system to take advantage of new files systems features + like the UFS2 filesystem layout. Unlike a source upgrade, + there is no need to deal with leftover files and programs + on the disk. Users unfamiliar with the buildworld/installworld procedures for updating &os; from source should not - attempt this procedure, but should instead perform a binary + attempt a source upgrade, but should instead perform a binary installation after backing up all data. - The source-based upgrade procedure relies on building and - installing a set of binaries, compiled from source on the + A source-based upgrade builds and + installs set of binaries compiled from source on the local machine. It is based on the buildworld/installworld procedure often used by advanced &os; users to track changes along a development branch (such as &os.stable; or - &os.current;). In general, this procedure involves more - effort than the binary upgrade procedure listed in the - previous system, but may be useful when a system's + &os.current;). In general, this involves more + effort than the binary upgrade procedure, but may be useful when a system's configuration files are complex or have been highly - customized. Another scenario where this procedure is useful - is that of a remote system where an administrator has remote + customized. Source upgrade can also be useful + when there is a remote system where an administrator has remote console access but no physical access (and therefore cannot insert installation media). Reading src/UPDATING is absolutely essential. The section entitled To upgrade in-place from 4.x-stable to current contains a step-by-step update - procedure. This procedure must be followed exactly, without - making use of the shortcuts that some users + procedure which must be followed exactly, without + using of the shortcuts that some users occasionally employ. An annotated list of these steps is presented below: @@ -530,7 +527,7 @@ Make backups. - The importance of this step cannot be overstated. It + The importance of this cannot be overstated. It is important to make backups of all user data and configuration files. Level zero dumps with &man.dump.8; are an excellent way to do this, although there are of @@ -540,15 +537,12 @@ Fix /etc/fstab if required. - This item probably only affects very old &os;/i386 and - &os;/pc98 systems. - On systems that use MBR-style disk slices (such as the - i386), &os; used to support compatibility - slices, where disk partition names could take the - form /dev/ad0a (without specifying a - slice name explicitly). These are no longer supported; + Compatibility slices, where disk + partition names can take the form /dev/ad0a + (without specifying a slice name explicitly) are no longer supported; disk partitions must be named according to the form - /dev/ad0s1a. + /dev/ad0s1a. This probably only affects very old &os;/i386 and + &os;/pc98 systems. Note that compatibility slices have generally not been used since &os; @@ -564,7 +558,7 @@ release and security fix branch, use the RELENG_5_3 tag. When using CVS to check out the source tree, it is important to pass the - flag to CVS so that it prunes away + flag to CVS so to prune away empty directories. @@ -576,7 +570,7 @@ If CPUTYPE is defined in /etc/make.conf, it should be defined - using the ?= operator, so that the + using the ?= operator, so the buildworld process can override this variable if necessary. @@ -591,11 +585,11 @@ the resulting kernel is compiled with the toolchain built in the buildworld step above. Manually using &man.config.8; to set up a kernel build area and - attempting to build a kernel will not work in this case. + attempting to build a kernel will not work. Although building (and later installing) a custom - kernel at this point is feasible, upgrading using the - GENERIC kernel and installing to a + kernel is feasible at this point, upgrading using the + GENERIC kernel and installing a custom kernel configuration later may be less error-prone. @@ -614,8 +608,8 @@ &prompt.root; cd /usr/src/sys/boot ; make STRIP="" install - While optional, this step is highly recommended. At this - point, it is also recommended to disable third-party + This step, though optional, is highly recommended. + We also recommend disabling third-party modules (such as those for VMware) to prevent crashes caused by changes in kernel ABIs or other incompatibilities. @@ -650,7 +644,7 @@ &prompt.root; mergemaster -p - This step is necessary in order to give some new files + This step must be performed to give some new files the correct usernames and groupnames. @@ -659,8 +653,8 @@ &prompt.root; rm -rf /usr/include/g++ - This step is required so that future compilations do - not accidentally pick up old header files from the + This keeps future compilations from + accidentally picking up old header files from the GCC 2.95 C++ compiler. @@ -675,7 +669,7 @@ &prompt.root; mergemaster -i - This step is especially important. It is required to + This especially important step is required to make the startup and configuration files /etc consistent with the new kernel and world. @@ -688,8 +682,7 @@ After upgrading the base system, upgrades to some non-base-system components are generally - needed to restore normal functionality. As previously - mentioned, Perl is no longer a part + needed to restore normal functionality. Perl is no longer a part of the base system and should be installed from the Ports Collection (specifically, the lang/perl5.8 port) or from a @@ -705,8 +698,8 @@ As mentioned in a prior section, &xorg; is the default implementation of the X Window System. The Ports Collection - (as well as packages) rely on this change for the purpose of - satisfying dependencies. To convert the installed windowing + (and packages) rely on this change to satisfy dependencies. + To convert the installed windowing system from &xfree86; to &xorg;, refer to the Installing @@ -719,10 +712,10 @@ Summary - This article presented some of the more notable new features - in &os; &release.5x;, and listed some areas that of particular + This article presents some of the more notable new features + in &os; &release.5x;, and lists some areas of particular concern to those users upgrading existing &os; &release.4x; - systems. It also presented two sets of upgrade instructions, + systems. It also presents two sets of upgrade instructions, one using binaries from installation media and one based on recompiling the base system from source code. --Boundary-00=_SwKPBJAGFNOId5W-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 01:06:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D3EB16A4CE; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 01:06:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from a.mail.sonic.net (a.mail.sonic.net [64.142.16.245]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6052243D3F; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 01:06:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bmah@freebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.2.126] (adsl-64-142-31-109.sonic.net [64.142.31.109]) (authenticated bits=0) by a.mail.sonic.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8716nME020155 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 6 Sep 2004 18:06:49 -0700 From: "Bruce A. Mah" To: Len Zettel In-Reply-To: <200409061427.30634.zettel@acm.org> References: <1094426835.767.50.camel@localhost> <200409061427.30634.zettel@acm.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-ZEMM/j+OMwIG2hfA0gwY" Message-Id: <1094519134.3249.6.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 18:05:34 -0700 cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: 5.3 Migration Guide X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 01:06:51 -0000 --=-ZEMM/j+OMwIG2hfA0gwY Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2004-09-06 at 11:27, Len Zettel wrote: > OK, you asked :-). Attached are suggested cosmetic changes > to the English. If this is premature, my apologies to all for wasting th= e > bandwidth.=20 Not a waste at all...thanks for tightening up the writing. I tend to be a little verbose sometimes. I might take a little time to work through this patch...there were one or two problems that I might solve a little bit differently, but I want most of your changes. Thanks! Bruce. --=-ZEMM/j+OMwIG2hfA0gwY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBPQld2MoxcVugUsMRArPPAJ9IVmNQLZvXs4d7InTFbCZOQ6wytACgsZ5b YUXfHVz+lXb+DaBJMjzkGfI= =gCm8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-ZEMM/j+OMwIG2hfA0gwY-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 01:56:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA64116A4CE; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 01:56:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from b.mail.sonic.net (b.mail.sonic.net [64.142.19.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF6E43D1F; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 01:56:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bmah@freebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.2.126] (adsl-64-142-31-109.sonic.net [64.142.31.109]) (authenticated bits=0) by b.mail.sonic.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i871uGFs004574 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 6 Sep 2004 18:56:17 -0700 From: "Bruce A. Mah" To: Joe Marcus Clarke In-Reply-To: <1094430249.25711.8.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> References: <1094426835.767.50.camel@localhost> <200409060206.21145.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> <1094430249.25711.8.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-dt3+4ySRrcJb9ZfJEySs" Message-Id: <1094522101.3249.12.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 18:55:01 -0700 cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: Michael Nottebrock Subject: Re: RFC: 5.3 Migration Guide X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 01:56:18 -0000 --=-dt3+4ySRrcJb9ZfJEySs Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 17:24, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 20:06, Michael Nottebrock wrote: > > The pthread libraries change probably requires people to recompile thin= gs=20 > > linked to it if they're migrating from 4.x - users updating from 5.x-Re= leases=20 > > can get away with setting up libmap.conf (maybe this is true for updati= ng=20 > > from 4.x as well, can some threads expert comment on it?). >=20 > Users should really rebuild ALL ports when upgrading from 4.X to > 5.3-RELEASE. Only simple applications that only rely on libraries in > compat4x will work correctly. Others, for example GTK+ apps, may link > to both libc_r.so.4 and libpthread.so.1. That could spell disaster. Hmmm...OK, that's more conservative than I was originally led to believe. I'll try something like "in general, executables should be recompiled; simple apps might work; in particular C++ and threaded apps *do* need to be recompiled". (Use your imagination to turn that into real English.) > I would also mention /usr/ports/UPDATING in this document. There are a > lot of useful hints in there when it comes to upgrading things such as > Perl and X (as well as the recently recent KDE 3.3). Plus, it would > give this file much needed publicity. Thanks for mentioning that; I'd forgotten. I'll put a reference to this and ports/CHANGES at the end of section 4. Thanks, guys! Bruce. --=-dt3+4ySRrcJb9ZfJEySs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBPRT02MoxcVugUsMRAhyCAJsHHmClPM0I6ksiJOZymqchiZk1lgCfYh+E ItA37JFNNGBKX+ttmrtLcaI= =YHrG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-dt3+4ySRrcJb9ZfJEySs-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 02:00:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99EFD16A4CE; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 02:00:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from b.mail.sonic.net (b.mail.sonic.net [64.142.19.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86CB643D62; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 02:00:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bmah@freebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.2.126] (adsl-64-142-31-109.sonic.net [64.142.31.109]) (authenticated bits=0) by b.mail.sonic.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8720MAj005224 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 6 Sep 2004 19:00:23 -0700 From: "Bruce A. Mah" To: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: <20040906073014.GA13651@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <1094426835.767.50.camel@localhost> <20040906073014.GA13651@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-UxGdsIHjwLETpYjpyigo" Message-Id: <1094522346.3249.17.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 18:59:07 -0700 cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: 5.3 Migration Guide X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 02:00:23 -0000 --=-UxGdsIHjwLETpYjpyigo Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2004-09-06 at 00:30, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: [UserConfig went away] > Do you think we should add a note about why the change was made? Having > to learn something new regarding boot-time kernel configuration is > probably going to raise a few complaints, but at least we can explain in > a few short words why the change was made :-) Good idea. Now I get to learn more about this change so I can explain it. :-) Thanks! Bruce. PS. A belated welcome back! --=-UxGdsIHjwLETpYjpyigo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBPRXq2MoxcVugUsMRAmwMAKCC4A4otk0A12yMJH2mdHELWm1UYgCfaeO9 L6//LsKH9sH4xdc1JkRRqy8= =0s+c -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-UxGdsIHjwLETpYjpyigo-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 02:06:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D323E16A4CE; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 02:06:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F4C843D58; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 02:06:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zettel@acm.org) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (bgp966574bgs.derbrn01.mi.comcast.net[68.41.108.205]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2004090702064401600nakuve>; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 02:06:44 +0000 From: Len Zettel To: "Bruce A. Mah" Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 22:07:12 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <1094426835.767.50.camel@localhost> <200409061427.30634.zettel@acm.org> <1094519134.3249.6.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1094519134.3249.6.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200409062207.12805.zettel@acm.org> cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: 5.3 Migration Guide X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 02:06:45 -0000 On Monday 06 September 2004 09:05 pm, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > On Mon, 2004-09-06 at 11:27, Len Zettel wrote: > > OK, you asked :-). Attached are suggested cosmetic changes > > to the English. If this is premature, my apologies to all for wasting > > the bandwidth. > > Not a waste at all...thanks for tightening up the writing. I tend to be > a little verbose sometimes. I might take a little time to work through > this patch...there were one or two problems that I might solve a little > bit differently, but I want most of your changes. > Given something as subjective as writing style, I am only making suggestions... > Thanks! > Y' walcome - glad to help! -LenZ- > Bruce. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 15:14:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A342E16A4CE; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 15:14:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web.portaone.com (mail.russia.cz [195.70.151.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8260543D3F; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 15:14:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sobomax@portaone.com) Received: from [192.168.0.20] (portacare.portaone.com [195.140.247.242]) (authenticated bits=0) by web.portaone.com (8.12.8p2/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i87FEo62071502 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 7 Sep 2004 17:14:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sobomax@portaone.com) Message-ID: <413DD059.8070308@portaone.com> Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 18:14:33 +0300 From: Maxim Sobolev Organization: Porta Software Ltd User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (Windows/20040803) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Bruce A. Mah" References: <1094426835.767.50.camel@localhost> <200409060206.21145.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> <1094430249.25711.8.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <1094522101.3249.12.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1094522101.3249.12.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Joe Marcus Clarke cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: 5.3 Migration Guide X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 15:14:55 -0000 Bruce A. Mah wrote: > On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 17:24, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > >>On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 20:06, Michael Nottebrock wrote: > > >>>The pthread libraries change probably requires people to recompile things >>>linked to it if they're migrating from 4.x - users updating from 5.x-Releases >>>can get away with setting up libmap.conf (maybe this is true for updating >>>from 4.x as well, can some threads expert comment on it?). >> >>Users should really rebuild ALL ports when upgrading from 4.X to >>5.3-RELEASE. Only simple applications that only rely on libraries in >>compat4x will work correctly. Others, for example GTK+ apps, may link >>to both libc_r.so.4 and libpthread.so.1. That could spell disaster. > > > Hmmm...OK, that's more conservative than I was originally led to > believe. I'll try something like "in general, executables should be > recompiled; simple apps might work; in particular C++ and threaded apps > *do* need to be recompiled". (Use your imagination to turn that into > real English.) Actually this is inaccurate. Existing 4.x binaries will continue working with 4.x libraries, but if you try to compile some new binaries that need to be linked to either C++ or pthreads libraries, those new binaries won't work. Even worse things will happed if you try to recompile or update to the new version and reinstall some old libraries that use C++ code or pthreads and don't recompile binaries or libraries that use those them - all of the dependent binaries stop working. Something along the lines: You can use your existing installed applications compiled on 4.x after migration, but remember that once you need to update some installed application to the new version or install new ones you have to recompile every package installed on your machine. This should be done in dependency order - the easiest way to do it is to create list of all installed packages, remove all packages and recompile/reinstall everything from scratch. -Maxim > > >>I would also mention /usr/ports/UPDATING in this document. There are a >>lot of useful hints in there when it comes to upgrading things such as >>Perl and X (as well as the recently recent KDE 3.3). Plus, it would >>give this file much needed publicity. > > > Thanks for mentioning that; I'd forgotten. I'll put a reference to this > and ports/CHANGES at the end of section 4. > > Thanks, guys! > > Bruce. > From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 17:50:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7B9616A4CE; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 17:50:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC1043D31; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 17:50:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id i87Hq6xa003370; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 10:52:06 -0700 Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0/Submit) id i87Hq6ch003369; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 10:52:06 -0700 Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 10:52:06 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: "Bruce A. Mah" Message-ID: <20040907175206.GC17387@odin.ac.hmc.edu> References: <1094426835.767.50.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tNQTSEo8WG/FKZ8E" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1094426835.767.50.camel@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=8.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on odin.ac.hmc.edu cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: 5.3 Migration Guide X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 17:50:35 -0000 --tNQTSEo8WG/FKZ8E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 05, 2004 at 04:27:15PM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > Howdy-- >=20 > I've volunteered to rework the 5.X Early Adopters Guide into a Migration > Guide. The focus of this document is less about discouraging unwary > users and more about what kinds of changes users might encounter when > they move from 4.X to 5.X. >=20 > I'd like to solicit a pre-commit review on the document at: >=20 > http://people.freebsd.org/~bmah/pub/article.html >=20 > A PDF rendering, as well as SGML source, also live in the same > directory. >=20 > The area I'm the most shaky on is the source upgrade procedure, which is > basically an annotated version of the procedure in src/UPDATING. I > haven't done this procedure in a *long* time, and I'm kind of short on > scratch systems (=3D> none) at the moment for testing the procedure. In > retrospect, I didn't actually plan on including this section, and I > might have been less eager to take on this task if I'd know it was > coming. :-) >=20 In the source upgrade section, item 9 (preseedrandom) should no longer be necessicary. It's harmless, and possiably slightly helpful, but not necessicary since markm has the rng act seeded by default. I'd personally suggest wording the "don't do a source update" bit more strongly, though I'm not sure how. Maybe a suggestion to see this as an opportunity to set up that backup infrastructure you've been meaning to install for the last decade. :-) -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --tNQTSEo8WG/FKZ8E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBPfVFXY6L6fI4GtQRAuYMAKDLy6tRkpKk6Wd4r49qAiMoHLyY/ACfRj95 dVqesR4j8olVkEEstG/TPDQ= =y8IL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tNQTSEo8WG/FKZ8E-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 19:28:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CD7F16A4CE; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 19:28:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.village.org [168.103.84.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F19943D54; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 19:28:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i87JQo8w036017; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 13:26:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 13:27:16 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20040907.132716.71088896.imp@bsdimp.com> To: bmah@freebsd.org From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <1094426835.767.50.camel@localhost> References: <1094426835.767.50.camel@localhost> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: 5.3 Migration Guide X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 19:28:26 -0000 Having just done a 4.10 -> current upgrade... In message: <1094426835.767.50.camel@localhost> "Bruce A. Mah" writes: : http://people.freebsd.org/~bmah/pub/article.html ... : Thanks for any comments... Item #1: good Item #2: o FreeBSD/alpha unaffected o Many users added disks and used the compat partitions because they were easy, so the problem is likely wide spread. o Dangerously dedicated users are not impacted, but as always DD isn't guaranteed to work. Item #3: o Mention RELENG_5 as well. Item #4: o Make sure that MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX isn't defined in /etc/make.conf Item #5: o Add a caution that says that if you do upgrade from old kernel configuration files, to make sure that GENERIC is used as a template due to the number of devices and options that have been added. o Mention COMPAT_FREEBSD4 is required here. Item #6: o Hints are needed for systems that have custom ISA non PNP cards (with custom hints benig needed) o Hints are also needed for non PNPBIOS systems. o Hints are also needed for PNPBIOS systems to get floppies right (this is a bug that may be fixed). o An empty file is sufficient for modern hardware. Item #7: o I'd split this in two. o I'd give the magic for unfucking yourself by showing how to boot the new kernel with the old boot blocks. Item #8: o you *MUST* do a fsck -p before mount -uw / (note: I always -uw rather than -u). o I'd recommend against mount -a /, but instead mount -af ufs /. NFS requires special care and setup. o You ************M**U**S**T************ go into single user mode at this point. At the very least you must reboot with a new kernel. The new kernel will mostly work in multi-user mode, but you might be screwed by the ifconfig changes or a number of other binary changes between 4 and 5. Item #9: o Not needed. While it is useful to keep in the general updating document, I think it would be too confusing. I was able to upgrade w/o it. Item #10: o I found that doing this before rebooting was better because you are in a saner environment. It doesn't hurt anything (heck, you could do it before buildworld even). Item #11: o Ditto #10. Item #12: o You forgot the very important foot note about having 30MB free on /, purging /tmp, etc. These items are absolutely essential for a successful upgrade experience. Item #13: o This step is *NON*OPTIONAL*. Not only is it important, you are totally fucked if you don't do it. Item #14 (not yet present): o You *MUST* install compatibility libraries before rebooting. While most things work well enough w/o doing this step, it is essential for the paranoid. o rm -rf /etc/periodic (unless you've hacked anything in it) will go a long way towards reducing RMS. I followed the above advise, and had no problems at all. I'd also recommend portupgrade strongly (in force mode), although I know that some people hate it with a passion. I'd also recommend having a 'script' that takes all these items and presents them w/o annotation. I'd also recommend doing this from a serial console if possible. If you are using nextboot, disable it for the upgrade. Can't think of anything else... Hope this is enough :-) Warner From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 19:28:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3523716A4CE; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 19:28:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.village.org [168.103.84.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D182743D2D; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 19:28:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i87JRl7b036018; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 13:27:48 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 13:28:15 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20040907.132815.51857293.imp@bsdimp.com> To: michaelnottebrock@gmx.net From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <200409060206.21145.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> References: <1094426835.767.50.camel@localhost> <200409060206.21145.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: bmah@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: 5.3 Migration Guide X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 19:28:27 -0000 In message: <200409060206.21145.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> Michael Nottebrock writes: : On Monday 06 September 2004 01:27, Bruce A. Mah wrote: : > Howdy-- : > : > I've volunteered to rework the 5.X Early Adopters Guide into a Migration : > Guide. The focus of this document is less about discouraging unwary : > users and more about what kinds of changes users might encounter when : > they move from 4.X to 5.X. : > : > I'd like to solicit a pre-commit review on the document at: : > : > http://people.freebsd.org/~bmah/pub/article.html : : Nice document! : : One thing I'm missing: : : The pthread libraries change probably requires people to recompile things : linked to it if they're migrating from 4.x - users updating from 5.x-Releases : can get away with setting up libmap.conf (maybe this is true for updating : from 4.x as well, can some threads expert comment on it?). You should recompile everything as part of this upgrade. You can still use libc_r on -current (I have binaries I'm still using and haven't upgraded). You should likely do so, as well as recompile C++ programs. Warner From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 19:37:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A27A516A4FC; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 19:37:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.village.org [168.103.84.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3321E43D55; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 19:37:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i87JbDZF036150; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 13:37:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 13:37:41 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20040907.133741.32720508.imp@bsdimp.com> To: bmah@freebsd.org From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20040907.132716.71088896.imp@bsdimp.com> References: <1094426835.767.50.camel@localhost> <20040907.132716.71088896.imp@bsdimp.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: 5.3 Migration Guide X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 19:37:32 -0000 Oh, there's a few more things: 1) There is no #1 2) /etc/rc.conf needs to be updated. Most things that used to be on by default relating to network are now off. 3) /modules and /kernel* likely should be removed once you get things upgraded. There's some other files that can be removed as well, but the current archives are full of *that* discussion. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 19:39:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9675E16A4CF; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 19:39:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from it.buh.tecnik93.com (it.buh.tecnik93.com [81.196.204.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0120B43D3F; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 19:39:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from itetcu@people.tecnik93.com) Received: from it.buh.tecnik93.com (localhost.buh.tecnik93.com [127.0.0.1]) by it.buh.tecnik93.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 54C1E199; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 22:39:07 +0300 (EEST) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 22:39:07 +0300 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu To: "M. Warner Losh" Message-ID: <20040907223907.66e707b5@it.buh.tecnik93.com> In-Reply-To: <20040907.132716.71088896.imp@bsdimp.com> References: <1094426835.767.50.camel@localhost> <20040907.132716.71088896.imp@bsdimp.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12a (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: bmah@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: 5.3 Migration Guide X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 19:39:15 -0000 On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 13:27:16 -0600 (MDT) "M. Warner Losh" wrote: > Having just done a 4.10 -> current upgrade... > > In message: <1094426835.767.50.camel@localhost> > "Bruce A. Mah" writes: > : http://people.freebsd.org/~bmah/pub/article.html > ... > : Thanks for any comments... > [ ... ] > Item #8: > o you *MUST* do a fsck -p before mount -uw / (note: I always > -uw rather than -u). why ? Thanks, -- IOnut Unregistered ;) FreeBSD 5.3-BETA3 "user" Try sysctl debug.witness_watch=0 and prepare to fly :-) From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 19:56:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54AA916A4CF; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 19:56:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4C343D46; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 19:56:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@linux.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a043.otenet.gr [212.205.215.43]) i87Ju4E9003853; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 22:56:08 +0300 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i87Js9Am006288; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 22:54:09 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@linux.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i87Js61n006287; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 22:54:06 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@linux.gr) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 22:54:06 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Brooks Davis Message-ID: <20040907195406.GB5958@gothmog.gr> References: <1094426835.767.50.camel@localhost> <20040907175206.GC17387@odin.ac.hmc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040907175206.GC17387@odin.ac.hmc.edu> Phone: +30-2610-312145 Mobile: +30-6944-116520 cc: "Bruce A. Mah" cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: 5.3 Migration Guide X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 19:56:19 -0000 On 2004-09-07 10:52, Brooks Davis wrote: > I'd personally suggest wording the "don't do a source update" bit more > strongly, though I'm not sure how. Maybe a suggestion to see this as an > opportunity to set up that backup infrastructure you've been meaning to > install for the last decade. :-) Actually, somewhat experienced users can bring a 4.7-REL system to CURRENT using source upgrades if they read UPDATING carefully. I've done it a couple of times (during weekend breaks) on my workstation at work as an experiment, to see if upgrades from 4.X to CURRENT still work. I have to agree though that source upgrades are not recommended, since this way the disks cannot be newfs'd to UFS2 and a lot of cleaning up has to be done after the upgrade to make sure there are no stale files left around. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 20:00:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FECB16A4D3; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 20:00:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C6A843D73; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 20:00:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@linux.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a043.otenet.gr [212.205.215.43]) i87K0T00014831; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 23:00:31 +0300 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i87Jwcvi006366; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 22:58:38 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@linux.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i87JwchH006365; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 22:58:38 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@linux.gr) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 22:58:38 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Ion-Mihai Tetcu Message-ID: <20040907195838.GC5958@gothmog.gr> References: <1094426835.767.50.camel@localhost> <20040907.132716.71088896.imp@bsdimp.com> <20040907223907.66e707b5@it.buh.tecnik93.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040907223907.66e707b5@it.buh.tecnik93.com> Phone: +30-2610-312145 Mobile: +30-6944-116520 cc: bmah@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: 5.3 Migration Guide X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 20:00:55 -0000 On 2004-09-07 22:39, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: > > Item #8: > > o you *MUST* do a fsck -p before mount -uw / (note: I always > > -uw rather than -u). > > why ? I remember a post of Kirk McKusick forwarded by someone to one of the lists that mentioned why this is necessary. Some of the filesystem metadata and/or superblock information is kept in different places now. The mount won't fail if you try it without having run fsck before, but disk usage reporting tools like du and df will print wrong information until you *do* run the fsck. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 20:16:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA3416A4CE; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 20:16:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from it.buh.tecnik93.com (it.buh.tecnik93.com [81.196.204.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A6843D4C; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 20:16:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from itetcu@people.tecnik93.com) Received: from it.buh.tecnik93.com (localhost.buh.tecnik93.com [127.0.0.1]) by it.buh.tecnik93.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4B6D4199; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 23:15:58 +0300 (EEST) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 23:15:57 +0300 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20040907231557.0bf68d45@it.buh.tecnik93.com> In-Reply-To: <20040907195838.GC5958@gothmog.gr> References: <1094426835.767.50.camel@localhost> <20040907.132716.71088896.imp@bsdimp.com> <20040907223907.66e707b5@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20040907195838.GC5958@gothmog.gr> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12a (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: bmah@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: 5.3 Migration Guide X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 20:16:03 -0000 On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 22:58:38 +0300 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2004-09-07 22:39, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: > > > Item #8: > > > o you *MUST* do a fsck -p before mount -uw / (note: I always > > > -uw rather than -u). > > > > why ? > > I remember a post of Kirk McKusick forwarded by someone to one of the > lists that mentioned why this is necessary. Some of the filesystem > metadata and/or superblock information is kept in different places now. > The mount won't fail if you try it without having run fsck before, but > disk usage reporting tools like du and df will print wrong information > until you *do* run the fsck. I think I remember now, thanks Hmm, just figured out I didn't touch a 4.x for about 2 years now. -- IOnut Unregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" 5.3BETA - try `sysctl debug.witness_watch=0` and prepare to fly :-) From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 20:26:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADCBB16A4CE; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 20:26:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from b.mail.sonic.net (b.mail.sonic.net [64.142.19.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98F4B43D55; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 20:26:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bmah@freebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.0.85] (dns.packetdesign.com [65.192.41.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by b.mail.sonic.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i87KQHPO004998 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 7 Sep 2004 13:26:18 -0700 From: "Bruce A. Mah" To: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20040907.132716.71088896.imp@bsdimp.com> References: <1094426835.767.50.camel@localhost> <20040907.132716.71088896.imp@bsdimp.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-N7jKqwlousBMNaUrs3Tm" Message-Id: <1094588700.755.27.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 13:25:01 -0700 cc: "Bruce A. Mah" cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: 5.3 Migration Guide X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 20:26:24 -0000 --=-N7jKqwlousBMNaUrs3Tm Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2004-09-07 at 12:27, M. Warner Losh wrote: > Having just done a 4.10 -> current upgrade... [lots of useful info] > I followed the above advise, and had no problems at all. I'd also > recommend portupgrade strongly (in force mode), although I know that > some people hate it with a passion. > =09 > I'd also recommend having a 'script' that takes all these items and > presents them w/o annotation. obrien sent one to re@ that was later forwarded to me, not sure what's going on with it. > I'd also recommend doing this from a serial console if possible. >=20 > If you are using nextboot, disable it for the upgrade. >=20 > Can't think of anything else... Hope this is enough :-) That's great, thanks! I'll be (mostly) AFK for a few days, but will hopefully get to make another pass on this on the weekend. One concern I had was that by duplicating what's in src/UPDATING, there's the opportunity for these to be inconsistent (or appear to be inconsistent from the viewpoint of people who might not know the difference). Originally I just had a reference to src/UPDATING.=20 Whatever the end state is, this document and src/UPDATING should be consistent...clearly there is more time to work that out. Thanks again! Bruce. PS. current@ and doc@ members, please continue discussions, I'll catch up later. --=-N7jKqwlousBMNaUrs3Tm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBPhkc2MoxcVugUsMRAmkYAJ4msCyK7bZnV0EQtEDIIRgVElyDKwCeKfEp wHXClBmPyfvQXzEDT53hPOY= =Pjl7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-N7jKqwlousBMNaUrs3Tm-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 23:00:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87E6C16A4CE for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 23:00:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6507F43D39 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 23:00:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i87N0hUA074535 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 23:00:43 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i87N0hIR074506; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 23:00:43 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 23:00:43 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200409072300.i87N0hIR074506@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Gavin Atkinson Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 253FC16A4CE for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 22:56:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-gw0.york.ac.uk (mail-gw0.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.245]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 601EB43D1F for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 22:56:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ga9@buffy.york.ac.uk) Received: from buffy.york.ac.uk (buffy.york.ac.uk [144.32.226.160]) by mail-gw0.york.ac.uk (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i87MuNlo016657 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 23:56:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from buffy.york.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by buffy.york.ac.uk (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i87MuNpt001624 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 23:56:23 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ga9@buffy.york.ac.uk) Received: (from ga9@localhost) by buffy.york.ac.uk (8.13.1/8.12.11/Submit) id i87MuN38001623; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 23:56:23 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ga9) Message-Id: <200409072256.i87MuN38001623@buffy.york.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 23:56:23 +0100 (BST) From: Gavin Atkinson To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/71476: Filling in some glossary items X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gavin Atkinson List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 23:00:43 -0000 >Number: 71476 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Filling in some glossary items >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Sep 07 23:00:42 GMT 2004 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gavin Atkinson >Release: FreeBSD 5.3-BETA2 i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD buffy.york.ac.uk 5.3-BETA2 FreeBSD 5.3-BETA2 #9: Mon Sep 6 15:59:27 BST 2004 root@buffy.york.ac.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 >Description: Updates to the glossary file >How-To-Repeat: N/A >Fix: Index: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/glossary/freebsd-glossary.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/cvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/glossary/freebsd-glossary.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.18 diff -u -r1.18 freebsd-glossary.sgml --- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/glossary/freebsd-glossary.sgml 25 Aug 2004 08:44:53 -0000 1.18 +++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/glossary/freebsd-glossary.sgml 7 Sep 2004 22:44:25 -0000 @@ -93,7 +93,10 @@ ACPI Machine Language AML - + Pseudocode, interpreted by a virtual machine within an + ACPI-compliant operating system, providing a + layer between the underlying hardware and the documented + interface presented to the OS. @@ -101,7 +104,7 @@ ACPI Source Language ASL - + The programming language AML is written in. @@ -117,7 +120,14 @@ Advanced Configuration and Power Interface ACPI - + A specification which provides an abstraction of the + interface the hardware presents to the operating system, so + that the operating system should need to know nothing about + the underlying hardware to make the most of it. ACPI + evolves and supercedes the functionality provided previously by + APM, PNPBIOS and other technologies, and + provides facilities for controlling power consumption, machine + suspension, device enabling and disabling, etc. @@ -694,7 +704,8 @@ Intel’s ASL compiler IASL - + Intel’s compiler for converting ASL into + AML. @@ -975,7 +986,8 @@ Message Of The Day MOTD - + A message, usually shown on login, and often used to + distribute information to users of the system. @@ -1195,6 +1207,7 @@ + PR @@ -1233,7 +1246,9 @@ Physical Address Extensions PAE - + A method of enabling access to up to 64 GB of RAM on + systems which only physically have a 32-bit wide address space + (and therefore would be limited to 4 GB without PAE). @@ -1332,7 +1347,8 @@ Process ID PID - + A number, unique to a particular process on a system, + which identifies it and allows actions to be taken against it. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 23:04:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 477DA16A4CE; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 23:04:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.village.org [168.103.84.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C28743D1F; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 23:04:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i87N46xT038434; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 17:04:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 17:04:34 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20040907.170434.90120280.imp@bsdimp.com> To: bmah@freebsd.org From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <1094588700.755.27.camel@localhost> References: <1094426835.767.50.camel@localhost> <20040907.132716.71088896.imp@bsdimp.com> <1094588700.755.27.camel@localhost> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: 5.3 Migration Guide X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 23:04:28 -0000 In message: <1094588700.755.27.camel@localhost> "Bruce A. Mah" writes: : On Tue, 2004-09-07 at 12:27, M. Warner Losh wrote: : > Having just done a 4.10 -> current upgrade... : : [lots of useful info] : : > I followed the above advise, and had no problems at all. I'd also : > recommend portupgrade strongly (in force mode), although I know that : > some people hate it with a passion. : > : > I'd also recommend having a 'script' that takes all these items and : > presents them w/o annotation. : : obrien sent one to re@ that was later forwarded to me, not sure what's : going on with it. We should commit it, after suitable testing period. Warner From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 23:04:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1776B16A4CF; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 23:04:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.village.org [168.103.84.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F7B943D4C; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 23:04:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i87N3Hhl038432; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 17:03:17 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 17:03:44 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20040907.170344.112623695.imp@bsdimp.com> To: itetcu@people.tecnik93.com From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20040907223907.66e707b5@it.buh.tecnik93.com> References: <1094426835.767.50.camel@localhost> <20040907.132716.71088896.imp@bsdimp.com> <20040907223907.66e707b5@it.buh.tecnik93.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: bmah@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: 5.3 Migration Guide X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 23:04:29 -0000 In message: <20040907223907.66e707b5@it.buh.tecnik93.com> Ion-Mihai Tetcu writes: : > Item #8: : > o you *MUST* do a fsck -p before mount -uw / (note: I always : > -uw rather than -u). : : why ? It updates summary information in the super blocks, and fixes any dirty file systems. Warner From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 23:24:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E31B016A4CE; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 23:24:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp3.server.rpi.edu (smtp3.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6361843D2D; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 23:24:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp3.server.rpi.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id i87NNwZU013193; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 19:23:59 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20040907.132716.71088896.imp@bsdimp.com> References: <1094426835.767.50.camel@localhost> <20040907.132716.71088896.imp@bsdimp.com> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 19:23:57 -0400 To: "M. Warner Losh" , bmah@freebsd.org From: Garance A Drosihn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . canit . ca) cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: 5.3 Migration Guide X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 23:24:09 -0000 At 1:27 PM -0600 9/7/04, M. Warner Losh wrote: > >I'd also recommend having a 'script' that takes all these items >and presents them w/o annotation. When writing the UPDATING.64BTT file, I wrote it such that: grep '#\- ' UPDATING.64BTT gave a list of all the interesting commands that were in the document, with very minimal comments. Also with differing indent-levels to mark where the reboots occurred. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 23:37:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B8216A4CE; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 23:37:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.village.org [168.103.84.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2174643D1F; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 23:37:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i87NarqN038776; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 17:36:53 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 17:37:21 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20040907.173721.98858100.imp@bsdimp.com> To: drosih@rpi.edu From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: References: <1094426835.767.50.camel@localhost> <20040907.132716.71088896.imp@bsdimp.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: bmah@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: 5.3 Migration Guide X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 23:37:27 -0000 In message: Garance A Drosihn writes: : At 1:27 PM -0600 9/7/04, M. Warner Losh wrote: : > : >I'd also recommend having a 'script' that takes all these items : >and presents them w/o annotation. : : When writing the UPDATING.64BTT file, I wrote it such that: : : grep '#\- ' UPDATING.64BTT : : gave a list of all the interesting commands that were in the : document, with very minimal comments. Also with differing : indent-levels to mark where the reboots occurred. Interesting idea... Warner From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 10:09:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6E6516A4CE; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 10:09:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4D843D3F; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 10:09:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ceri@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (ceri@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i88A9JGb070822; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 10:09:19 GMT (envelope-from ceri@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from ceri@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i88A9Ji7070818; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 10:09:19 GMT (envelope-from ceri) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 10:09:19 GMT From: Ceri Davies Message-Id: <200409081009.i88A9Ji7070818@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ceri@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, ceri@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/71476: Filling in some glossary items X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 10:09:19 -0000 Synopsis: Filling in some glossary items Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->ceri Responsible-Changed-By: ceri Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Sep 8 10:09:03 GMT 2004 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll get this committed. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=71476 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 13:47:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DED216A4CE; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 13:47:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-gw0.york.ac.uk (mail-gw0.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.245]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE0543D31; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 13:47:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gavin.atkinson@ury.york.ac.uk) Received: from buffy.york.ac.uk (buffy.york.ac.uk [144.32.226.160]) by mail-gw0.york.ac.uk (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i88DlRlo013972; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 14:47:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from buffy.york.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by buffy.york.ac.uk (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i88DlQRY004118; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 14:47:26 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from gavin.atkinson@ury.york.ac.uk) Received: (from ga9@localhost) by buffy.york.ac.uk (8.13.1/8.12.11/Submit) id i88Dl9rf004117; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 14:47:09 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from gavin.atkinson@ury.york.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: buffy.york.ac.uk: ga9 set sender to gavin.atkinson@ury.york.ac.uk using -f From: Gavin Atkinson To: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20040907.132716.71088896.imp@bsdimp.com> References: <1094426835.767.50.camel@localhost> <20040907.132716.71088896.imp@bsdimp.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1094651228.3634.4.camel@buffy.york.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 14:47:08 +0100 X-York-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-York-MailScanner-From: gavin.atkinson@ury.york.ac.uk cc: bmah@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: 5.3 Migration Guide X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 13:47:36 -0000 On Tue, 2004-09-07 at 20:27, M. Warner Losh wrote: > Having just done a 4.10 -> current upgrade... > > In message: <1094426835.767.50.camel@localhost> > "Bruce A. Mah" writes: > : http://people.freebsd.org/~bmah/pub/article.html > ... > : Thanks for any comments... > Item #6: > o Hints are needed for systems that have custom ISA non PNP > cards (with custom hints benig needed) > o Hints are also needed for non PNPBIOS systems. > o Hints are also needed for PNPBIOS systems to get floppies > right (this is a bug that may be fixed). > o An empty file is sufficient for modern hardware. I believe, at the very minimum, the file must still contain the hint.sc.0.foo hints for the video console to be usable. > Item #8: > o you *MUST* do a fsck -p before mount -uw / (note: I always > -uw rather than -u). Will this make any difference? At the moment, fsck will still be the old (4.X) binary... Gavin From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 16:13:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D7FD16A4CE; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 16:13:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D1AD43D2D; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 16:13:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ceri@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (ceri@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i88GD0BV012590; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 16:13:00 GMT (envelope-from ceri@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from ceri@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i88GD0G4012586; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 16:13:00 GMT (envelope-from ceri) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 16:13:00 GMT From: Ceri Davies Message-Id: <200409081613.i88GD0G4012586@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ceri@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, ceri@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/70583: [PATCH] Update freebsd-glossary X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 16:13:00 -0000 Synopsis: [PATCH] Update freebsd-glossary Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->ceri Responsible-Changed-By: ceri Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Sep 8 16:12:29 GMT 2004 Responsible-Changed-Why: I have another glossary PR on the tasklist, so get this one too. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=70583 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 20:17:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD71B16A4CE for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 20:17:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc2-cdif3-6-0-cust204.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.67.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B6043D1F for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 20:17:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.42 (FreeBSD)) id 1C58sr-000Els-6n for doc@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2004 21:17:37 +0100 Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 21:17:37 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: doc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20040908201737.GG44674@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , doc@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="kA1LkgxZ0NN7Mz3A" Content-Disposition: inline X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: Ceri Davies Subject: i.e. vs. e.g. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 20:17:38 -0000 --kA1LkgxZ0NN7Mz3A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All, Apologies in advance for coming over all schoolmaster like, but I've noticed a few instances where I believe that people are confusing the terms "i.e." and "e.g.", and so here's a little reminder/summary: i.e. can be read as "that is to say". e.g. can be read as "for example". For example, contrast@ "I like monkeys, i.e. the hairy things with tails" with "I like monkeys, e.g., white-faced capuchin and squirrel monkeys". Also note that "e.g." is nearly always followed by a comma, whereas "i.e." is not. Thanks, Ceri --=20 It is not tinfoil, it is my new skin. I am a robot. --kA1LkgxZ0NN7Mz3A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBP2jgocfcwTS3JF8RApy7AJ4+8ZZCyuvxcI4p0tApCuQTfhfnGgCfdD0l ER8yjU9CbibZO3itof67usE= =cjrT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --kA1LkgxZ0NN7Mz3A-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 20:28:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C7316A4CE for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 20:28:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp108.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp108.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B9ADD43D2F for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 20:28:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from valentinrr@yahoo.es) Received: from unknown (HELO yahoo.es) (valentinrr@82.223.47.214 with plain) by smtp108.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Sep 2004 20:28:28 -0000 Message-ID: <413F6B5F.4050809@yahoo.es> Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 22:28:15 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Valent=EDn_Reviriego_Risco?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20040908 X-Accept-Language: es, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: suscribe X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 20:28:28 -0000 suscribe From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 20:30:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39EB816A4CE for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 20:30:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from redqueen.elvandar.org (cust.94.120.adsl.cistron.nl [195.64.94.120]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80E3743D46 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 20:30:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from remko@elvandar.org) Received: from [10.0.2.122] (nimrod.elvandar.intranet [10.0.2.122]) by redqueen.elvandar.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED28710685E; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 22:30:29 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <413F6BE8.3060001@elvandar.org> Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 22:30:32 +0200 From: Remko Lodder X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Valent=EDn_Reviriego_Risco?= References: <413F6B5F.4050809@yahoo.es> In-Reply-To: <413F6B5F.4050809@yahoo.es> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at elvandar.org cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: suscribe X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 20:30:34 -0000 Valentín Reviriego Risco wrote: > suscribe Hi Valentin, if you read the footer below (marked by the > ) you can see how you can subscribe (follow the second line in the footer) Cheers > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Kind regards, Remko Lodder |remko@elvandar.org Reporter DSINet |remko@dsinet.org Projectleader Mostly-Harmless |remko@mostly-harmless.nl From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 20:33:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB2B116A4CE; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 20:33:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zaphod.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A85243D4C; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 20:33:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@zaphod.nitro.dk) Received: by zaphod.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 3000) id 0D7DC11AE0; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 22:33:27 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 22:33:27 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Ceri Davies , doc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20040908203327.GA3227@zaphod.nitro.dk> References: <20040908201737.GG44674@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040908201737.GG44674@submonkey.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: i.e. vs. e.g. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 20:33:30 -0000 --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yOn 2004.09.08 21:17:37 +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: >=20 > All, >=20 > Apologies in advance for coming over all schoolmaster like, but I've > noticed a few instances where I believe that people are confusing the > terms "i.e." and "e.g.", and so here's a little reminder/summary: >=20 > i.e. can be read as "that is to say". >=20 > e.g. can be read as "for example". Perhaps time time for a "English FreeBSD doc-people/dummies" article? Actually I think it could be a nice thing, with some tips (like the one above) and links to other resources, e.g. about commas, since there are a lot of non-native English speakers (like me) who are often in doubt, or often forget. But of course there are many things that would be nice to have... P.S. If there are any errors in the text above it's only to make a point... really! ;-). --=20 Simon L. Nielsen FreeBSD Documentation Team --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBP2yXh9pcDSc1mlERAm6NAKCi2ocpOTRbX4xBO0Q/UuU5Nx8SNQCfX9vr YIaRX6qUIEKJ0QLsF5YUdZM= =c2tI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 21:27:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDD216A4CE; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 21:27:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEEB043D46; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 21:27:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (linimon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i88LRiZ3046052; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 21:27:44 GMT (envelope-from linimon@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from linimon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i88LRiMX046048; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 21:27:44 GMT (envelope-from linimon) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 21:27:44 GMT From: Mark Linimon Message-Id: <200409082127.i88LRiMX046048@freefall.freebsd.org> To: linimon@FreeBSD.org, qa@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/42977: request: document the fact that the FreeBSD installer doesn't probe past EISA slot 10. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 21:27:45 -0000 Synopsis: request: document the fact that the FreeBSD installer doesn't probe past EISA slot 10. Responsible-Changed-From-To: qa->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: linimon Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Sep 8 21:27:12 GMT 2004 Responsible-Changed-Why: Reclassify this as a doc PR, since the Audit-Trail claims that the code is doing The Right Thing (in general). http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=42977 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 22:19:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A764F16A4CE for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 22:19:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc2-cdif3-6-0-cust204.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.67.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7004A43D1F for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 22:19:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.42 (FreeBSD)) id 1C5AnF-000FMB-MF for doc@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2004 23:19:57 +0100 Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 23:19:57 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: doc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20040908221957.GI44674@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , doc@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nYySOmuH/HDX6pKp" Content-Disposition: inline X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: Ceri Davies Subject: Excuse me? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 22:19:58 -0000 --nYySOmuH/HDX6pKp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The FDP Primer word list contains both "FreeBSD Ports Collection" and "ports collection". Whuh? Ceri --=20 It is not tinfoil, it is my new skin. I am a robot. --nYySOmuH/HDX6pKp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBP4WNocfcwTS3JF8RAlHKAJ0QCTq2Hd3xZ07Ywoi12cyi9U3fwACgn2vV 3zLZPPI46Z17YU3uecpmcN0= =iG0z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nYySOmuH/HDX6pKp-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 23:50:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FE7F16A4CF; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 23:50:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 82-168-140-74-bbxl.xdsl.tiscali.nl (82-168-140-74-bbxl.xdsl.tiscali.nl [82.168.140.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 715D043D49; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 23:50:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rene@82-168-140-74-bbxl.xdsl.tiscali.nl) Received: from 82-168-140-74-bbxl.xdsl.tiscali.nl (atmosphere.local [127.0.0.1])i88Nomkx007538; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 01:50:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rene@82-168-140-74-bbxl.xdsl.tiscali.nl) Received: (from rene@localhost)i88Nomw7007537; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 01:50:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rene) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 01:50:48 +0200 From: Rene Ladan To: Ceri Davies Message-ID: <20040908235048.GA7442@82-168-140-74-bbxl.xdsl.tiscali.nl> References: <20040908221957.GI44674@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040908221957.GI44674@submonkey.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Excuse me? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 23:50:22 -0000 --HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 11:19:57PM +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: >=20 > The FDP Primer word list contains both "FreeBSD Ports Collection" and > "ports collection". Whuh? > You're correct. I came accross it when translating some documents to Dutch. Maybe one of these above can be made into an SGML entity, so that everybody can use the "correct" (and only) one. Rene > Ceri > --=20 > It is not tinfoil, it is my new skin. I am a robot. --HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBP5rXbWa3bO9NFoMRAtxoAJ4/5TQiEYgWY3srjBTPBRG8zmYwIgCg6hLa 2o+0Kb3iY4A3KSAzfqxQG+Y= =ohfJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 00:27:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 364B716A4CE; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 00:27:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [65.173.111.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BF2343D54; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 00:27:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i890RDp4001053; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 18:27:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with ESMTP id i890RDXc001050; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 18:27:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 18:27:13 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Ceri Davies In-Reply-To: <20040908201737.GG44674@submonkey.net> Message-ID: <20040908182322.L1034@wonkity.com> References: <20040908201737.GG44674@submonkey.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 08 Sep 2004 18:27:13 -0600 (MDT) cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: i.e. vs. e.g. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 00:27:15 -0000 On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Ceri Davies wrote: > Apologies in advance for coming over all schoolmaster like, but I've > noticed a few instances where I believe that people are confusing the > terms "i.e." and "e.g.", and so here's a little reminder/summary: > > i.e. can be read as "that is to say". > > e.g. can be read as "for example". 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(InternetNow Sdn Bhd) *Scanner Engine powered by Norman Virus Control \--------------------------------------------------------------------------/ From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 05:45:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E037416A4CE; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 05:45:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from auk2.snu.ac.kr (auk2.snu.ac.kr [147.46.100.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79E3943D55; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 05:45:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spamrefuse@yahoo.com) Received: from [147.46.44.181] (spamrefuse@yahoo.com) by auk2.snu.ac.kr (Terrace Internet Messaging Server) with ESMTP id 2004090914:44:47:831780.2881.2863565744 for ; Thu, 09 Sep 2004 14:44:47 +0900 (KST) Message-ID: <413FEDDA.50203@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 14:44:58 +0900 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040901 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <20040908185641.GB22069@pir.net> In-Reply-To: <20040908185641.GB22069@pir.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TERRACE-SPAMMARK: NO (SR:4.10) (by Terrace) Subject: Re: headless install frozen. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 05:45:01 -0000 Peter Radcliffe wrote: > oscar wicks probably said: > >>1.-made Boot Floppies using, to Boot into a Serial Console (both floppies >>made with dd command) >>using this on kern.flp: >> >># echo "/boot/loader -h" > boot.config > > > I think you want; > # echo "-Dh" > /boot.config If this is indeed a better boot.config, then the handbook needs a modification. Section 2.12.1 still recommends to use # echo "/boot/loader -h" > boot.config Rob. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 07:51:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885B216A4CE for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 07:51:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc2-cdif3-6-0-cust204.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.67.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F06A43D4C for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 07:51:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.42 (FreeBSD)) id 1C5JiE-000HQi-0N; Thu, 09 Sep 2004 08:51:22 +0100 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 08:51:21 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Warren Block Message-ID: <20040909075121.GJ44674@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Warren Block , doc@freebsd.org References: <20040908201737.GG44674@submonkey.net> <20040908182322.L1034@wonkity.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nhYGnrYv1PEJ5gA2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040908182322.L1034@wonkity.com> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: i.e. vs. e.g. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 07:51:25 -0000 --nhYGnrYv1PEJ5gA2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 06:27:13PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Ceri Davies wrote: >=20 > >Apologies in advance for coming over all schoolmaster like, but I've > >noticed a few instances where I believe that people are confusing the > >terms "i.e." and "e.g.", and so here's a little reminder/summary: > > > > i.e. can be read as "that is to say". > > > > e.g. can be read as "for example". >=20 > The FDP says to avoid contractions. Maybe these should be avoided in=20 > the same way. I think that would be overkill, and if we stopped doing things that we did wrong occasionally then there wouldn't be much of FreeBSD left ;-) I was "just saying" really. Ceri --=20 It is not tinfoil, it is my new skin. I am a robot. --nhYGnrYv1PEJ5gA2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBQAt5ocfcwTS3JF8RAlTwAJsHvQMCtp2n4+hyzd1+wnDvWz+I8QCdGttN ZyfCepmI8sdKjxNwIr8a7H0= =5QhI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nhYGnrYv1PEJ5gA2-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 15:29:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9859C16A4CE for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 15:29:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail5.speakeasy.net (mail5.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6118843D39 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 15:29:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 31470 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2004 15:29:16 -0000 Received: from dsl027-160-063.atl1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) encrypted SMTP for ; 9 Sep 2004 15:29:16 -0000 Received: from [10.50.40.210] (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i89FT93W007884; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 11:29:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 10:47:24 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20040908201737.GG44674@submonkey.net> <20040908182322.L1034@wonkity.com> <20040909075121.GJ44674@submonkey.net> In-Reply-To: <20040909075121.GJ44674@submonkey.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200409091047.25148.jhb@FreeBSD.org> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on server.baldwin.cx cc: Ceri Davies cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: i.e. vs. e.g. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 15:29:17 -0000 On Thursday 09 September 2004 03:51 am, Ceri Davies wrote: > On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 06:27:13PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > > On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Ceri Davies wrote: > > >Apologies in advance for coming over all schoolmaster like, but I've > > >noticed a few instances where I believe that people are confusing the > > >terms "i.e." and "e.g.", and so here's a little reminder/summary: > > > > > > i.e. can be read as "that is to say". > > > > > > e.g. can be read as "for example". > > > > The FDP says to avoid contractions. Maybe these should be avoided in > > the same way. > > I think that would be overkill, and if we stopped doing things that we > did wrong occasionally then there wouldn't be much of FreeBSD left ;-) > > I was "just saying" really. The reason for avoiding contractions though is to avoid confusing non-native readers, and I think that that's a good argument for spelling out i.e. as "that is", and e.g. as "for example" as well unless this type of idiom is common to more than just English. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 15:29:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C53B16A4CF for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 15:29:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail5.speakeasy.net (mail5.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 612F343D49 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 15:29:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 31470 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2004 15:29:16 -0000 Received: from dsl027-160-063.atl1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) encrypted SMTP for ; 9 Sep 2004 15:29:16 -0000 Received: from [10.50.40.210] (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i89FT93W007884; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 11:29:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 10:47:24 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20040908201737.GG44674@submonkey.net> <20040908182322.L1034@wonkity.com> <20040909075121.GJ44674@submonkey.net> In-Reply-To: <20040909075121.GJ44674@submonkey.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200409091047.25148.jhb@FreeBSD.org> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on server.baldwin.cx cc: Ceri Davies cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: i.e. vs. e.g. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 15:29:17 -0000 On Thursday 09 September 2004 03:51 am, Ceri Davies wrote: > On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 06:27:13PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > > On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Ceri Davies wrote: > > >Apologies in advance for coming over all schoolmaster like, but I've > > >noticed a few instances where I believe that people are confusing the > > >terms "i.e." and "e.g.", and so here's a little reminder/summary: > > > > > > i.e. can be read as "that is to say". > > > > > > e.g. can be read as "for example". > > > > The FDP says to avoid contractions. Maybe these should be avoided in > > the same way. > > I think that would be overkill, and if we stopped doing things that we > did wrong occasionally then there wouldn't be much of FreeBSD left ;-) > > I was "just saying" really. The reason for avoiding contractions though is to avoid confusing non-native readers, and I think that that's a good argument for spelling out i.e. as "that is", and e.g. as "for example" as well unless this type of idiom is common to more than just English. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 15:40:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A39A716A4CE for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 15:40:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898D543D4C for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 15:40:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i89FeG0t096832 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 15:40:16 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i89FeGib096831; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 15:40:16 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 15:40:16 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200409091540.i89FeGib096831@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, David Wolfskill Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DE8016A4CE; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 15:32:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (adsl-63-193-123-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.123.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00DCE43D2D; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 15:32:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i89FWTX8015998; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 08:32:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@bunrab.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i89FWT4A015997; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 08:32:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david) Message-Id: <200409091532.i89FWT4A015997@bunrab.catwhisker.org> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 08:32:29 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wolfskill To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 cc: jmb@FreeBSD.org Subject: docs/71529: (Strongly!) suggested change to listed address for postmaster@ X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: David Wolfskill List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 15:40:16 -0000 >Number: 71529 >Category: docs >Synopsis: (Strongly!) suggested change to listed address for postmaster@ >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Sep 09 15:40:16 GMT 2004 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: David Wolfskill >Release: FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE i386 >Organization: Wolfskill & Dowling Residence >Environment: System: FreeBSD bunrab.catwhisker.org 4.10-STABLE FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE #75: Sun Sep 5 05:16:39 PDT 2004 root@freebeast.catwhisker.org:/common/S1/obj/usr/src/sys/BUNRAB i386 >Description: Under "Postmaster," doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/article.sgml currently shows Jonathan's name & address address as well as mine. There are a couple of issues; the first is that Jonathan has effectively retired from postmaster@FreeBSD.org, effective January 2003. (However, "jmb" still shows up in the expansion for the "postmaster" alias on hub.) That, however, is not the focus of this PR. I mention it in passing, and am Cc:ing Jonathan, in case he wants to pipe up. The focus is that while the names may be useful, the given addresses are somewhat less so, and may be misleading: mx1.freebsd.org is (and has been) set up to treat mail to postmaster@ as "special" -- there are several circumstances such that if someone tries to send mail to jmb@freebsd.org or dhw@freebsd.org, the attempt will fail, while an otherwise equivalent attempt to send mail to postmaster@freebsd.org will succeed. This is by design and intent, per RFC 2821, section 4.5.1. Further, the mail that is addressed to postmaster@freebsd.org that gets to me does so via the address "freebsd-pm@catwhisker.org" -- in my MTA rules and filters on mx.catwhisker.org, I make an effort to accept mail addressed to freebsd-pm@ just as I do for postmaster@ -- and those rules are a lot less strict than those I have for non-postmaster aliases. Thus, with the situation as it now is, someone having trouble sending mail to one of the FreeBSD.org mailing lists might be inclined to send mail to dhw@ and jmb@ (individually -- as happened today), and be just as unable to send mail to those addresses as to the mailing list. So the person then ends up sending mail from some other address that does not exhibit the problem, finding some other way to contact us, or giving up. I believe that changing the given email address(es) to just "postmaster@FreeBSD.org" would better serve folks in need of contacting Postmaster and suggest that the docs be changed to reflect that. >How-To-Repeat: n/a >Fix: Sorry; I don't have the docbook-fu for this. :-( >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 15:52:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B64916A4CE; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 15:52:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA8FC43D69; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 15:52:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost.pittgoth.com (acs-24-154-239-170.zoominternet.net [24.154.239.170]) (authenticated bits=0) by pittgoth.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i89FqM0p076884 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 9 Sep 2004 11:52:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 11:53:01 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: Joe Marcus Clarke Message-Id: <20040909115301.50ca3158@localhost.pittgoth.com> In-Reply-To: <1094430249.25711.8.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> References: <1094426835.767.50.camel@localhost> <200409060206.21145.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> <1094430249.25711.8.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "Bruce A. Mah" cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RFC: 5.3 Migration Guide X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 15:52:25 -0000 On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 20:24:09 -0400 Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 20:06, Michael Nottebrock wrote: > > On Monday 06 September 2004 01:27, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > > Howdy-- > > > > > > I've volunteered to rework the 5.X Early Adopters Guide into a Migration > > > Guide. The focus of this document is less about discouraging unwary > > > users and more about what kinds of changes users might encounter when > > > they move from 4.X to 5.X. > > > > > > I'd like to solicit a pre-commit review on the document at: > > > > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~bmah/pub/article.html > > > > Nice document! > > > > One thing I'm missing: > > > > The pthread libraries change probably requires people to recompile things > > linked to it if they're migrating from 4.x - users updating from 5.x-Releases > > can get away with setting up libmap.conf (maybe this is true for updating > > from 4.x as well, can some threads expert comment on it?). > > Users should really rebuild ALL ports when upgrading from 4.X to > 5.3-RELEASE. Only simple applications that only rely on libraries in > compat4x will work correctly. Others, for example GTK+ apps, may link > to both libc_r.so.4 and libpthread.so.1. That could spell disaster. > > I would also mention /usr/ports/UPDATING in this document. There are a > lot of useful hints in there when it comes to upgrading things such as > Perl and X (as well as the recently recent KDE 3.3). Plus, it would > give this file much needed publicity. > CC: trimmed This could be accomplished almost flawlessly using portupgrade's -a (all) and -f (force upgrade) flags. When I build a custom release for test purposes, I use this with the build package option to get packages for my CD. This cuts down on port build times n'at. -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 15:57:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5365416A4CE; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 15:57:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc2-cdif3-6-0-cust204.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.67.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE4C343D55; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 15:57:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.42 (FreeBSD)) id 1C5RIs-0005MG-FM; Thu, 09 Sep 2004 16:57:42 +0100 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 16:57:42 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: John Baldwin Message-ID: <20040909155742.GL44674@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , John Baldwin , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Warren Block References: <20040908201737.GG44674@submonkey.net> <20040908182322.L1034@wonkity.com> <20040909075121.GJ44674@submonkey.net> <200409091047.25148.jhb@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="U3s59FfKcByyGl+j" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200409091047.25148.jhb@FreeBSD.org> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: i.e. vs. e.g. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 15:57:44 -0000 --U3s59FfKcByyGl+j Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 10:47:24AM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > On Thursday 09 September 2004 03:51 am, Ceri Davies wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 06:27:13PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > > > On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Ceri Davies wrote: > > > >Apologies in advance for coming over all schoolmaster like, but I've > > > >noticed a few instances where I believe that people are confusing the > > > >terms "i.e." and "e.g.", and so here's a little reminder/summary: > > > > > > > > i.e. can be read as "that is to say". > > > > > > > > e.g. can be read as "for example". > > > > > > The FDP says to avoid contractions. Maybe these should be avoided in > > > the same way. > > > > I think that would be overkill, and if we stopped doing things that we > > did wrong occasionally then there wouldn't be much of FreeBSD left ;-) > > > > I was "just saying" really. >=20 > The reason for avoiding contractions though is to avoid confusing non-nat= ive=20 > readers, and I think that that's a good argument for spelling out i.e. as= =20 > "that is", and e.g. as "for example" as well unless this type of idiom is= =20 > common to more than just English. There's no need to stop using these parts of the language just because people sometimes use them incorrectly. Non-native speakers who have never seen these terms before will have bigger problems. Ceri --=20 It is not tinfoil, it is my new skin. I am a robot. --U3s59FfKcByyGl+j Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBQH12ocfcwTS3JF8RAi6uAJ0U7GO7AY38wF1gWqN8Nx6oFka1ewCfSnMv EMZy8B5+O+rh+MIHUVvcTeM= =dxrz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --U3s59FfKcByyGl+j-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 16:30:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 846A716A4CE for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 16:30:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B7B043D45 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 16:30:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i89GUIAR003322 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 16:30:18 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i89GUIFp003309; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 16:30:18 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 16:30:18 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200409091630.i89GUIFp003309@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Joel Dahl Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FC1616A4CE for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 16:28:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av9-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (av9-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61E1943D2D for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 16:28:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joel@automatvapen.se) Received: by av9-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 0A4B237EFB; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 18:28:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.92]) by av9-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC97837E69 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 18:28:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dude.automatvapen.se (t7o55p22.telia.com [81.225.220.22]) by smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 033EC37E45 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 18:28:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: by dude.automatvapen.se (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 9 Sep 2004 18:28:14 +0200 Message-Id: <20040909162809.033EC37E45@smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 18:28:14 +0200 From: "Joel Dahl" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/71533: [PATCH] FAQ update: SMP is enabled by default since 5.2. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joel Dahl List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 16:30:18 -0000 >Number: 71533 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] FAQ update: SMP is enabled by default since 5.2. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Sep 09 16:30:18 GMT 2004 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Joel Dahl >Release: FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD dude.automatvapen.se 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 #1: Sat Jul 10 16:52:28 CEST 2004 root@dude.automatvapen.se:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WORKSTATION i386 >Description: SMP is enabled by default in FreeBSD since 5.2. This patch corrects the FAQ. >How-To-Repeat: n/a >Fix: --- faqsmp.diff begins here --- --- book.sgml Sun Sep 5 16:26:40 2004 +++ new.book.sgml Wed Sep 8 22:30:43 2004 @@ -2265,11 +2265,13 @@ - Yes. SMP is not enabled in the - GENERIC kernel, so you must recompile - your kernel to enable SMP. Take a look at - /sys/i386/conf/LINT to learn what - options to put in your kernel config file. + Yes. SMP is enabled by default in the + GENERIC kernel since &os; 5.2. + + In &os; 4.X, SMP is not enabled in the default + kernel, so you must recompile your kernel to enable SMP. Take + a look at /sys/i386/conf/LINT to learn + what options to put in your kernel config file. --- faqsmp.diff ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 18:45:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97CAB16A4CE; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 18:45:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A6443D54; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 18:45:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (linimon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i89Ij5Ji016470; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 18:45:05 GMT (envelope-from linimon@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from linimon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i89Ij5mN016465; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 18:45:05 GMT (envelope-from linimon) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 18:45:05 GMT From: Mark Linimon Message-Id: <200409091845.i89Ij5mN016465@freefall.freebsd.org> To: linimon@FreeBSD.org, alex@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/27843: [PATCH] make.conf WITH_* variables aren't documented. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 18:45:05 -0000 Synopsis: [PATCH] make.conf WITH_* variables aren't documented. Responsible-Changed-From-To: alex->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: linimon Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Sep 9 18:44:22 GMT 2004 Responsible-Changed-Why: alex has given up his commit bit, so reset Responsible to the mailing list. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=27843 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 07:00:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F06316A4D0 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 07:00:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from central.switch.ch (central.switch.ch [130.59.11.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CBFC43D64 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 07:00:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from carbone@switch.ch) Received: from user20.vpn.switch.ch ([130.59.23.20] helo=switch.ch) by central.switch.ch with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1C5fOM-0005AB-00; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 09:00:19 +0200 Message-ID: <41414E28.8080302@switch.ch> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 08:48:08 +0200 From: Rocco Carbone User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020903 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.org, mirror@switch.ch X-Enigmail-Version: 0.63.3.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Swiss SunSITE changes the name X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 07:00:45 -0000 Hello FreeBSD SWITCHmirror replaces the mirror service on Swiss SunSITE. On the page , could you please replace the reference to Swiss SunSITE with the one to SWITCHmirror? The correct links for our mirror are now: http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/FreeBSD/ ftp://mirror.switch.ch/mirror/FreeBSD/ The new contact address is: mirror@switch.ch it replaces the old address: archive@sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch Country: Switzerland Kind regards, Rocco __________ SWITCH - The Swiss Academic and Research Network ___________ Rocco Carbone, SWITCH, Limmatquai 138, CH-8001 Zurich, Switzerland carbone@switch.ch From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 08:13:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6FC516A4CE for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 08:13:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gandalf.online.bg (gandalf.online.bg [217.75.128.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3BFB343D53 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 08:12:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roam@ringlet.net) Received: (qmail 17565 invoked from network); 10 Sep 2004 08:10:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO straylight.m.ringlet.net) (217.75.134.254) by gandalf.online.bg with SMTP; 10 Sep 2004 08:10:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 40189 invoked by uid 1000); 10 Sep 2004 08:13:24 -0000 Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 11:13:24 +0300 From: Peter Pentchev To: John Baldwin Message-ID: <20040910081323.GB2296@straylight.m.ringlet.net> Mail-Followup-To: John Baldwin , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Ceri Davies References: <20040908201737.GG44674@submonkey.net> <20040908182322.L1034@wonkity.com> <20040909075121.GJ44674@submonkey.net> <200409091047.25148.jhb@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="H1spWtNR+x+ondvy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200409091047.25148.jhb@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org cc: Ceri Davies Subject: Re: i.e. vs. e.g. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 08:13:00 -0000 --H1spWtNR+x+ondvy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 10:47:24AM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > On Thursday 09 September 2004 03:51 am, Ceri Davies wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 06:27:13PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > > > On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Ceri Davies wrote: > > > >Apologies in advance for coming over all schoolmaster like, but I've > > > >noticed a few instances where I believe that people are confusing the > > > >terms "i.e." and "e.g.", and so here's a little reminder/summary: > > > > > > > > i.e. can be read as "that is to say". > > > > > > > > e.g. can be read as "for example". > > > > > > The FDP says to avoid contractions. Maybe these should be avoided in > > > the same way. > > > > I think that would be overkill, and if we stopped doing things that we > > did wrong occasionally then there wouldn't be much of FreeBSD left ;-) > > > > I was "just saying" really. >=20 > The reason for avoiding contractions though is to avoid confusing non-nat= ive=20 > readers, and I think that that's a good argument for spelling out i.e. as= =20 > "that is", and e.g. as "for example" as well unless this type of idiom is= =20 > common to more than just English. I have a gut feeling that pretty much all languages probably have "predefined", often-used contractions for "that is" and "for example"; I can certainly vouch for Bulgarian and Russian. Also, at least "e.g." is very widely used in virtually all grammar textbooks and dictionaries, so we can safely assume that non-native speakers ought to know what it stands for :) Thus, expanding those two or even avoiding their use in newly-written documentation could be kind of overkill IMHO, even though I heartily agree with Ceri that misusing them can lead to confuzzlement on part of the reader. G'luck, Peter --=20 Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@cnsys.bg roam@FreeBSD.org PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 If I had finished this sentence, --H1spWtNR+x+ondvy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBQWIj7Ri2jRYZRVMRAgvjAJ9fUsiymmyQeL88nlYQEKqnX0b24ACfVERp OoNaxUZI1qpfzs/+3gjV1hc= =NZv4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --H1spWtNR+x+ondvy-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 08:28:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D2A616A4CF for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 08:28:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd.org.cn (dns3.freebsd.org.cn [61.129.66.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E65E843D1D for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 08:28:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from delphij@frontfree.net) Received: (qmail 52182 invoked by uid 0); 10 Sep 2004 08:25:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO beastie.frontfree.net) (219.239.98.7) by mail.freebsd.org.cn with SMTP; 10 Sep 2004 08:25:09 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.frontfree.net [127.0.0.1]) by beastie.frontfree.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9046713213B; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 16:28:36 +0800 (CST) Received: from beastie.frontfree.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (beastie.frontfree.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00266-10; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 16:28:28 +0800 (CST) Received: by beastie.frontfree.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8B479131B7C; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 16:28:25 +0800 (CST) To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org From: Xin LI X-send-pr-version: 3.113 X-GNATS-Notify: Message-Id: <20040910082825.8B479131B7C@beastie.frontfree.net> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 16:28:25 +0800 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at frontfree.net cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: [PATCH] Add support files for the FreeBSD Simplified Chinese Documentation efforts X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Xin LI List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 08:28:48 -0000 >Submitter-Id: current-users >Originator: Xin LI >Organization: The FreeBSD Simplified Chinese Project >Confidential: no >Synopsis: [PATCH] Add support files for the FreeBSD Simplified Chinese Documentation efforts >Severity: critical >Priority: high >Category: docs >Class: change-request >Release: FreeBSD 5.2-delphij i386 >Environment: System: FreeBSD beastie.frontfree.net 5.2-delphij FreeBSD 5.2-delphij #0: Tue Aug 17 14:22:25 CST 2004 delphij@beastie.frontfree.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BEASTIE i386 >Description: The attached files were chacked out on September 10, 2004 from the local repository of the FreeBSD Simplified Chinese Project. It adds the support infrasture of Simplified Chinese Project's Documentation efforts to the official FreeBSD Documentation Project. A latest snapshot of our translation result is available in the following URLs: http://www.freebsd.org.cn/snap/doc/zh_CN.GB2312/books/handbook http://www.freebsd.org.cn/snap/zh_CN/ >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Extract the following shar(1) archive into doc/ and add them into the documentation project repository. --- cnproj-base.shar begins here --- # This is a shell archive. Save it in a file, remove anything before # this line, and then unpack it by entering "sh file". 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Fri, 10 Sep 2004 08:28:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd.org.cn (dns3.freebsd.org.cn [61.129.66.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E677243D5E for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 08:28:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from delphij@frontfree.net) Received: (qmail 52182 invoked by uid 0); 10 Sep 2004 08:25:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO beastie.frontfree.net) (219.239.98.7) by mail.freebsd.org.cn with SMTP; 10 Sep 2004 08:25:09 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.frontfree.net [127.0.0.1]) by beastie.frontfree.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9046713213B; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 16:28:36 +0800 (CST) Received: from beastie.frontfree.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (beastie.frontfree.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00266-10; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 16:28:28 +0800 (CST) Received: by beastie.frontfree.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8B479131B7C; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 16:28:25 +0800 (CST) Message-Id: <20040910082825.8B479131B7C@beastie.frontfree.net> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 16:28:25 +0800 (CST) From: Xin LI To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: docs/71553: [PATCH] Add support files for the FreeBSD Simplified Chinese Documentation efforts X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Xin LI List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 08:30:27 -0000 >Number: 71553 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] Add support files for the FreeBSD Simplified Chinese Documentation efforts >Confidential: no >Severity: critical >Priority: high >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Sep 10 08:30:26 GMT 2004 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Xin LI >Release: FreeBSD 5.2-delphij i386 >Organization: The FreeBSD Simplified Chinese Project >Environment: System: FreeBSD beastie.frontfree.net 5.2-delphij FreeBSD 5.2-delphij #0: Tue Aug 17 14:22:25 CST 2004 delphij@beastie.frontfree.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BEASTIE i386 >Description: The attached files were chacked out on September 10, 2004 from the local repository of the FreeBSD Simplified Chinese Project. It adds the support infrasture of Simplified Chinese Project's Documentation efforts to the official FreeBSD Documentation Project. A latest snapshot of our translation result is available in the following URLs: http://www.freebsd.org.cn/snap/doc/zh_CN.GB2312/books/handbook http://www.freebsd.org.cn/snap/zh_CN/ >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Extract the following shar(1) archive into doc/ and add them into the documentation project repository. --- cnproj-base.shar begins here --- # This is a shell archive. Save it in a file, remove anything before # this line, and then unpack it by entering "sh file". Note, it may # create directories; files and directories will be owned by you and # have default permissions. # # This archive contains: # # doc # doc/zh_CN.GB2312 # doc/zh_CN.GB2312/share # doc/zh_CN.GB2312/share/mk # doc/zh_CN.GB2312/share/mk/doc.local.mk # doc/zh_CN.GB2312/share/sgml # doc/zh_CN.GB2312/share/sgml/articles.ent # doc/zh_CN.GB2312/share/sgml/authors.ent # doc/zh_CN.GB2312/share/sgml/books.ent # doc/zh_CN.GB2312/share/sgml/catalog # doc/zh_CN.GB2312/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl # doc/zh_CN.GB2312/share/sgml/l10n.ent # doc/zh_CN.GB2312/share/sgml/mailing-lists.ent # doc/zh_CN.GB2312/share/sgml/mirrors-local.xsl # doc/zh_CN.GB2312/share/sgml/teams.ent # doc/zh_CN.GB2312/share/sgml/trademarks.ent # doc/zh_CN.GB2312/share/sgml/transtable-local.xsl # doc/zh_CN.GB2312/share/sgml/transtable.xml # echo c - doc mkdir -p doc > /dev/null 2>&1 echo c - doc/zh_CN.GB2312 mkdir -p doc/zh_CN.GB2312 > /dev/null 2>&1 echo c - doc/zh_CN.GB2312/share mkdir -p doc/zh_CN.GB2312/share > /dev/null 2>&1 echo c - doc/zh_CN.GB2312/share/mk mkdir -p doc/zh_CN.GB2312/share/mk > /dev/null 2>&1 echo x - doc/zh_CN.GB2312/share/mk/doc.local.mk sed 's/^X//' >doc/zh_CN.GB2312/share/mk/doc.local.mk << 'END-of-doc/zh_CN.GB2312/share/mk/doc.local.mk' X# $FreeBSD$ X XSP_ENCODING?= ${LANGCODE:C,^.*\.,,} X END-of-doc/zh_CN.GB2312/share/mk/doc.local.mk echo c - doc/zh_CN.GB2312/share/sgml mkdir -p doc/zh_CN.GB2312/share/sgml > /dev/null 2>&1 echo x - doc/zh_CN.GB2312/share/sgml/articles.ent sed 's/^X//' >doc/zh_CN.GB2312/share/sgml/articles.ent << 'END-of-doc/zh_CN.GB2312/share/sgml/articles.ent' X X X X%man; X X%freebsd; X X X%authors; X X X%teams; X X X%mailing-lists; X X%newsgroups; X X X%trademarks; X X%l10n; X X%l10n-common; X X%urls; END-of-doc/zh_CN.GB2312/share/sgml/articles.ent echo x - doc/zh_CN.GB2312/share/sgml/authors.ent sed 's/^X//' >doc/zh_CN.GB2312/share/sgml/authors.ent << 'END-of-doc/zh_CN.GB2312/share/sgml/authors.ent' X X X X Xclive@FreeBSD.org"> X Xclsung@FreeBSD.org"> X Xdavidxu@FreeBSD.org"> X Xfoxfair@FreeBSD.org"> X Xhsu@FreeBSD.org"> X Xijliao@FreeBSD.org"> X Xkeichii@FreeBSD.org"> X Xkevlo@FreeBSD.org"> X Xleeym@FreeBSD.org"> X Xvanilla@FreeBSD.org"> X X X X Xalu@FreeBSD.org.cn"> X Xdelphij@FreeBSD.org.cn"> X Xld@FreeBSD.org.cn"> END-of-doc/zh_CN.GB2312/share/sgml/authors.ent echo x - doc/zh_CN.GB2312/share/sgml/books.ent sed 's/^X//' >doc/zh_CN.GB2312/share/sgml/books.ent << 'END-of-doc/zh_CN.GB2312/share/sgml/books.ent' X X X X%man; X X%bookinfo; X X%freebsd; X X X%authors; X X X%teams; X X X%mailing-lists; X X%newsgroups; X X X%trademarks; X X%l10n; X X%l10n-common; 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From: Peter Pentchev To: David Wolfskill Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org, jmb@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/71529: (Strongly!) suggested change to listed address for postmaster@ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 12:00:44 +0300 On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 08:32:29AM -0700, David Wolfskill wrote: > > >Number: 71529 > >Category: docs > >Synopsis: (Strongly!) suggested change to listed address for postmaster@ > >Originator: David Wolfskill > >Description: > Under "Postmaster," doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/article.sgml > currently shows Jonathan's name & address address as well as mine. [snip] > I believe that changing the given email address(es) to just > "postmaster@FreeBSD.org" would better serve folks in need of contacting > Postmaster and suggest that the docs be changed to reflect that. What do you think about the following three patches? You can see them and the resulting versions of the Contributors article at http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/pm/ First patch: add 'reachable via' at the end: Index: article.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/article.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.433 diff -u -r1.433 article.sgml --- article.sgml 8 Aug 2004 13:43:53 -0000 1.433 +++ article.sgml 10 Sep 2004 08:35:53 -0000 @@ -510,8 +510,10 @@ Postmaster - &a.dhw;, - &a.jmb; + David Wolfskill, + Jonathan M. Bresler + Both are reachable via the + postmaster@FreeBSD.org address. ---------------- Second patch: add a 'Postmaster team' prologue: Index: article.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/article.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.433 diff -u -r1.433 article.sgml --- article.sgml 8 Aug 2004 13:43:53 -0000 1.433 +++ article.sgml 10 Sep 2004 08:38:15 -0000 @@ -510,8 +510,10 @@ Postmaster - &a.dhw;, - &a.jmb; + FreeBSD.org Postmaster team + postmaster@FreeBSD.org, which includes: + David Wolfskill, + Jonathan M. Bresler -------------- Third patch: remove jmb@, add 'reachable via': Index: article.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/article.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.433 diff -u -r1.433 article.sgml --- article.sgml 8 Aug 2004 13:43:53 -0000 1.433 +++ article.sgml 10 Sep 2004 08:39:39 -0000 @@ -510,8 +510,8 @@ Postmaster - &a.dhw;, - &a.jmb; + David Wolfskill, reachable via the + postmaster@FreeBSD.org address. Any other suggestions on wording this are welcome :) G'luck, Peter -- Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@cnsys.bg roam@FreeBSD.org PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 If you think this sentence is confusing, then change one pig. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 09:07:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41F6416A4CF for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 09:07:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd.org.cn (dns3.freebsd.org.cn [61.129.66.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7892B43D58 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 09:07:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from delphij@frontfree.net) Received: (qmail 52458 invoked by uid 0); 10 Sep 2004 09:04:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO beastie.frontfree.net) (219.239.98.7) by mail.freebsd.org.cn with SMTP; 10 Sep 2004 09:04:24 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.frontfree.net [127.0.0.1]) by beastie.frontfree.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585D213133D; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 17:07:53 +0800 (CST) Received: from beastie.frontfree.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (beastie.frontfree.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01883-02; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 17:07:45 +0800 (CST) Received: by beastie.frontfree.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C6EC513113C; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 17:07:44 +0800 (CST) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 17:07:44 +0800 From: Xin LI To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20040910090744.GA2881@frontfree.net> References: <20040910082825.8B479131B7C@beastie.frontfree.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040910082825.8B479131B7C@beastie.frontfree.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-key-ID/Fingerprint: 0xCAEEB8C0 / 43B8 B703 B8DD 0231 B333 DC28 39FB 93A0 CAEE B8C0 X-GPG-Public-Key: http://www.delphij.net/delphij.asc X-Operating-System: FreeBSD beastie.frontfree.net 5.2-delphij FreeBSD 5.2-delphij #0: Tue Aug 17 14:22:25 CST 2004 delphij@beastie.frontfree.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BEASTIE i386 X-URL: http://www.delphij.net X-By: delphij@beastie.frontfree.net X-Location: Beijing, China X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at frontfree.net cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/71553: [PATCH] Add support files for the FreeBSD Simplified Chinese Documentation efforts X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 09:07:56 -0000 --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Updated archive of the cnproj-base.shar is here: http://cvs.freebsd.org.cn/~delphij/cnproj-base.shar (This caught up with teams.ent,v 1.15 from English version) Please let me know which version is being committed, thanks! Cheers, --=20 Xin LI http://www.delphij.net/ See complete headers for GPG key and other information. --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBQW7gOfuToMruuMARAlY4AJ9DWo54ZP6XeSpJWSsKoH5KD+Os/QCfTjev x/pWWApM5MBxxvwFobKgMi4= =0S/Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 09:10:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAA5A16A4CF for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 09:10:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF5F543D53 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 09:10:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8A9A7dG043559 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 09:10:07 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8A9A7mB043558; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 09:10:07 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 09:10:07 GMT Message-Id: <200409100910.i8A9A7mB043558@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Xin LI Subject: Re: docs/71553: [PATCH] Add support files for the FreeBSD Simplified Chinese Documentation efforts X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Xin LI List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 09:10:08 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/71553; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Xin LI To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/71553: [PATCH] Add support files for the FreeBSD Simplified Chinese Documentation efforts Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 17:07:44 +0800 --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Updated archive of the cnproj-base.shar is here: http://cvs.freebsd.org.cn/~delphij/cnproj-base.shar (This caught up with teams.ent,v 1.15 from English version) Please let me know which version is being committed, thanks! Cheers, --=20 Xin LI http://www.delphij.net/ See complete headers for GPG key and other information. --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBQW7gOfuToMruuMARAlY4AJ9DWo54ZP6XeSpJWSsKoH5KD+Os/QCfTjev x/pWWApM5MBxxvwFobKgMi4= =0S/Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 09:30:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED8716A4CE; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 09:30:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 613AE43D55; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 09:30:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from blackend@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (blackend@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i8A9UqIF044439; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 09:30:52 GMT (envelope-from blackend@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from blackend@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8A9UqaG044435; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 09:30:52 GMT (envelope-from blackend) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 09:30:52 GMT From: Marc Fonvieille Message-Id: <200409100930.i8A9UqaG044435@freefall.freebsd.org> To: blackend@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, blackend@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/71553: [PATCH] Add support files for the FreeBSD Simplified Chinese Documentation efforts X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 09:30:52 -0000 Synopsis: [PATCH] Add support files for the FreeBSD Simplified Chinese Documentation efforts Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->blackend Responsible-Changed-By: blackend Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Sep 10 09:29:51 GMT 2004 Responsible-Changed-Why: I will take care of this one. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=71553 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 10:10:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3318B16A4CE for ; 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Fri, 10 Sep 2004 10:08:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9633243D4C for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 10:08:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8AA8HpS064595 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 10:08:17 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8AA8HOL064594; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 10:08:17 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200409101008.i8AA8HOL064594@www.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 10:08:17 GMT From: Willem van Engen To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-2.3 Subject: docs/71555: how to run matlab on 5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 10:10:21 -0000 >Number: 71555 >Category: docs >Synopsis: how to run matlab on 5.2 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Sep 10 10:10:20 GMT 2004 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Willem van Engen >Release: 5.2-CURRENT >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD jeremy 5.2-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT #0: Wed Jul 21 10:00:48 CEST 2004 root@jeremy:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/JEREMY i386 >Description: Following FreeBSD's handbook procedure to get matlab running doesn't work here on 5.2-CURRENT with linux_base-7.1_7, giving many errors like: [: -ne: unary operator expected both trying to start the license manager and matlab. License manager cannot be run, and matlab doesn't start because of that. >How-To-Repeat: on 5.2-CURRENT with linux_base-7.1_7, install matlab using the installer. Follow procedure of FreeBSD's handbook for running it on FreeBSD, try to start the license manager (/usr/local/etc/rc.d/flexlm.sh). >Fix: 0. Skip the handbook's license manager startup section (sorry guys) 1. brandelf -t Linux the binaries in $MATLABROOT/etc/glnx86 2. Remove scripts $MATLABROOT/etc/lm* 3. Create symlink from glnx86/lm_boot to $MATLABROOT/etc/lm_boot. 4. Create new startup script /usr/local/etc/rc.d/flexlm.sh as shown below 5. chmod +x of script. like handbook says 6. Run `/usr/local/etc/rc.d/flexlm.sh start` [note: it still needs some su-wrapping for running it as a normal user] I'm not sure if this is the Right Way (tm) to run it, but at least it works, independently from linux_base version (as it completely bypasses shell scripts and starts the binaries directly). I'll forward this pr to freebsd-emulation too. --- begin flexlm.sh --- #!/bin/sh # Verified for matlab R12 MATLABROOT=/usr/local/matlab LICENSE=$MATLABROOT/etc/license.dat case "$1" in start) # Now start daemon. Logging is still an issue if [ -f $MATLABROOT/etc/glnx86/lmgrd ]; then $MATLABROOT/etc/glnx86/lmgrd -c $LICENSE && echo 'MATLAB_lmgrd' fi ;; stop) # Quit 'm if [ -f $MATLABROOT/etc/glnx86/lmdown ]; then $MATLABROOT/etc/glnx86/lmdown -c $LICENSE -q && echo 'MATLAB_lmgrd' fi ;; *) echo "Usage: $0 {start|stop}" exit 1 ;; esac exit 0 --- end flexlm.sh --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 12:50:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E7B216A4CF for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 12:50:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81F5543D4C for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 12:50:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8ACoNTT065117 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 12:50:23 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8ACoNG4065116; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 12:50:23 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 12:50:23 GMT Message-Id: <200409101250.i8ACoNG4065116@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Jonathan M Bresler Subject: Re: docs/71529: (Strongly!) suggested change to listed address for postmaster@ X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jonathan M Bresler List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 12:50:23 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/71529; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Jonathan M Bresler To: Peter Pentchev Cc: David Wolfskill , bug-followup@FreeBSD.org, jmb@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/71529: (Strongly!) suggested change to listed address for postmaster@ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 08:47:38 -0400 (EDT) Actually, I would recommend removing my name, Jonathan Bresler, from the documentation regarding postmaster. David has been fulfilling that role very well for a significant period of time. I have left myself in the /etc/aliases file, as a backup should David have questions or be unavailable for some reason. At this point perhaps that is no longer needed as well. jmb On Fri, 10 Sep 2004, Peter Pentchev wrote: > On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 08:32:29AM -0700, David Wolfskill wrote: > > > > >Number: 71529 > > >Category: docs > > >Synopsis: (Strongly!) suggested change to listed address for postmaster@ > > >Originator: David Wolfskill > > >Description: > > Under "Postmaster," doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/article.sgml > > currently shows Jonathan's name & address address as well as mine. > [snip] > > I believe that changing the given email address(es) to just > > "postmaster@FreeBSD.org" would better serve folks in need of contacting > > Postmaster and suggest that the docs be changed to reflect that. > > What do you think about the following three patches? You can see them > and the resulting versions of the Contributors article at > http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/pm/ > > First patch: add 'reachable via' at the end: > > Index: article.sgml > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/article.sgml,v > retrieving revision 1.433 > diff -u -r1.433 article.sgml > --- article.sgml 8 Aug 2004 13:43:53 -0000 1.433 > +++ article.sgml 10 Sep 2004 08:35:53 -0000 > @@ -510,8 +510,10 @@ > Postmaster > > > - &a.dhw;, > - &a.jmb; > + David Wolfskill, > + Jonathan M. Bresler > + Both are reachable via the > + postmaster@FreeBSD.org address. > > > > ---------------- > > Second patch: add a 'Postmaster team' prologue: > > Index: article.sgml > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/article.sgml,v > retrieving revision 1.433 > diff -u -r1.433 article.sgml > --- article.sgml 8 Aug 2004 13:43:53 -0000 1.433 > +++ article.sgml 10 Sep 2004 08:38:15 -0000 > @@ -510,8 +510,10 @@ > Postmaster > > > - &a.dhw;, > - &a.jmb; > + FreeBSD.org Postmaster team > + postmaster@FreeBSD.org, which includes: > + David Wolfskill, > + Jonathan M. Bresler > > > > -------------- > > Third patch: remove jmb@, add 'reachable via': > > Index: article.sgml > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/article.sgml,v > retrieving revision 1.433 > diff -u -r1.433 article.sgml > --- article.sgml 8 Aug 2004 13:43:53 -0000 1.433 > +++ article.sgml 10 Sep 2004 08:39:39 -0000 > @@ -510,8 +510,8 @@ > Postmaster > > > - &a.dhw;, > - &a.jmb; > + David Wolfskill, reachable via the > + postmaster@FreeBSD.org address. > > > > Any other suggestions on wording this are welcome :) > > G'luck, > Peter > > -- > Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@cnsys.bg roam@FreeBSD.org > PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc > Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 > If you think this sentence is confusing, then change one pig. > > From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 13:50:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E00E16A4D1 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 13:50:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 387E443D1F for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 13:50:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8ADoQKs071705 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 13:50:26 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8ADoQY6071704; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 13:50:26 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 13:50:26 GMT Message-Id: <200409101350.i8ADoQY6071704@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: David Wolfskill Subject: Re: docs/71529: (Strongly!) suggested change to listed address for postmaster@ X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: David Wolfskill List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 13:50:26 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/71529; it has been noted by GNATS. From: David Wolfskill To: david@catwhisker.org, roam@ringlet.net Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org, jmb@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/71529: (Strongly!) suggested change to listed address for postmaster@ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 06:46:35 -0700 (PDT) >Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 12:00:44 +0300 >From: Peter Pentchev >To: David Wolfskill >Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org, jmb@FreeBSD.org >Subject: Re: docs/71529: (Strongly!) suggested change to listed address for postmaster@ >On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 08:32:29AM -0700, David Wolfskill wrote: [PR about postmaster@FreeBSD.org email address documentation] >What do you think about the following three patches? You can see them >and the resulting versions of the Contributors article at >http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/pm/ My current favorite is the 2nd -- the one with the "Postmaster Team Prologue". It's clear and unambiguous; it's easily changed as the membership of the team changes. In the first patch, I think I'd be slightly more inclined to use "Each is reachable" vs. "Both are reachable" (in case something based on the first patch is finally selected). But then, if jmb decides to not be listed, that makes things awkward: one doesn't write "each" to refer to the only element of a set or member of a team. And "both" only works as long as there are precisely 2 members of the team. The 3rd patch doesn't strike me as being easily adapted to changes in the size of the team. >Any other suggestions on wording this are welcome :) :-) Just recall Victor Borge's line (referring to the English language): "It's *your* language; I'm just trying to *use* it!" >If you think this sentence is confusing, then change one pig. :-) I recall reading that line in one of Hofstadter's columns -- I think it was in his "Metamagical Themas" column in Scientific American (successor column to Martin Gardner's "Mathematical Games". Thanks! Peace, david -- David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org Evidence of curmudgeonliness: becoming irritated with the usage of the word "speed" in contexts referring to quantification of network performance, as opposed to "bandwidth" or "latency." From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 14:10:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F276016A4CE for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:10:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A2043D49 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:10:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8AEAXk2077201 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:10:33 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8AEAXfL077200; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:10:33 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:10:33 GMT Message-Id: <200409101410.i8AEAXfL077200@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Peter Pentchev Subject: Re: docs/71529: (Strongly!) suggested change to listed address for postmaster@ X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Peter Pentchev List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:10:34 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/71529; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Peter Pentchev To: David Wolfskill Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org, jmb@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/71529: (Strongly!) suggested change to listed address for postmaster@ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 17:09:13 +0300 On Fri, Sep 10, 2004 at 06:46:35AM -0700, David Wolfskill wrote: > >Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 12:00:44 +0300 > >From: Peter Pentchev > >To: David Wolfskill > >Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org, jmb@FreeBSD.org > >Subject: Re: docs/71529: (Strongly!) suggested change to listed address for postmaster@ > > >On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 08:32:29AM -0700, David Wolfskill wrote: > > [PR about postmaster@FreeBSD.org email address documentation] > > >What do you think about the following three patches? You can see them > >and the resulting versions of the Contributors article at > >http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/pm/ > > My current favorite is the 2nd -- the one with the "Postmaster > Team Prologue". It's clear and unambiguous; it's easily changed as the > membership of the team changes. All right then - so, combined with jmb's reply, this would yield the following patch, added as the fourth patch now at http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/pm/ with the result at http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/pm/contrib-pm-team-dhw.html#STAFF-WHO Index: article.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/article.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.433 diff -u -r1.433 article.sgml --- article.sgml 8 Aug 2004 13:43:53 -0000 1.433 +++ article.sgml 10 Sep 2004 13:55:34 -0000 @@ -510,8 +510,9 @@ Postmaster - &a.dhw;, - &a.jmb; + FreeBSD.org Postmaster team + postmaster@FreeBSD.org, which includes: + David Wolfskill > >Any other suggestions on wording this are welcome :) > > :-) Just recall Victor Borge's line (referring to the English > language): "It's *your* language; I'm just trying to *use* it!" Yeah, only it's not mine - or did you mean it the other way round? :) > >If you think this sentence is confusing, then change one pig. > > :-) I recall reading that line in one of Hofstadter's columns -- I > think it was in his "Metamagical Themas" column in Scientific American > (successor column to Martin Gardner's "Mathematical Games". Give the man a cigar! I've been using Hofstadter's sample sentences in email sigs for some time now; the full list that I'm using is available at http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/misc/hoflines.txt :) G'luck, Peter -- Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@cnsys.bg roam@FreeBSD.org PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 If the meanings of 'true' and 'false' were switched, then this sentence wouldn't be false. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 14:40:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4836716A4CE for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:40:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B44243D45 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:40:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8AEeRSk078142 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:40:27 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8AEeQ5j078141; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:40:27 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:40:27 GMT Message-Id: <200409101440.i8AEeQ5j078141@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: David Wolfskill Subject: Re: docs/71529: (Strongly!) suggested change to listed address for postmaster@ X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: David Wolfskill List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:40:27 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/71529; it has been noted by GNATS. From: David Wolfskill To: david@catwhisker.org, roam@ringlet.net Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org, jmb@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/71529: (Strongly!) suggested change to listed address for postmaster@ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 07:30:41 -0700 (PDT) >Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 17:09:13 +0300 >From: Peter Pentchev >To: David Wolfskill >Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org, jmb@FreeBSD.org >Subject: Re: docs/71529: (Strongly!) suggested change to listed address for postmaster@ >> [PR about postmaster@FreeBSD.org email address documentation] >All right then - so, combined with jmb's reply, this would yield the >following patch, added as the fourth patch now at >http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/pm/ with the result at >http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/pm/contrib-pm-team-dhw.html#STAFF-WHO Yup. >> :-) Just recall Victor Borge's line (referring to the English >> language): "It's *your* language; I'm just trying to *use* it!" >Yeah, only it's not mine - or did you mean it the other way round? :) The latter -- Borge was Danish. :-) >> >If you think this sentence is confusing, then change one pig. >> .... Hofstadter .... >Give the man a cigar! I've been using Hofstadter's sample sentences in >email sigs for some time now; the full list that I'm using is available >at http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/misc/hoflines.txt :) I had noticed, but hadn't overcome the inertia enough to get around to commenting. :-} [I actually bought a copy of _Goedel, Escher, Bach: An Eternel Golden Braid_ for a young lady some years ago. And she married me anyway....] Peace, david -- David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org Evidence of curmudgeonliness: becoming irritated with the usage of the word "speed" in contexts referring to quantification of network performance, as opposed to "bandwidth" or "latency." From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 14:52:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B3DF16A4CE; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:52:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4886643D49; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:52:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roam@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (roam@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i8AEqgTP078591; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:52:42 GMT (envelope-from roam@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from roam@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8AEqg2X078587; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:52:42 GMT (envelope-from roam) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:52:42 GMT From: Peter Pentchev Message-Id: <200409101452.i8AEqg2X078587@freefall.freebsd.org> To: david@catwhisker.org, roam@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/71529: (Strongly!) suggested change to listed address for postmaster@ X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:52:42 -0000 Synopsis: (Strongly!) suggested change to listed address for postmaster@ State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: roam State-Changed-When: Fri Sep 10 14:52:20 GMT 2004 State-Changed-Why: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=71529 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 14:53:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E989916A4CF; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:53:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C760943D31; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:53:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roam@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (roam@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i8AEr8xf078645; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:53:08 GMT (envelope-from roam@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from roam@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8AEr8mR078641; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:53:08 GMT (envelope-from roam) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:53:08 GMT From: Peter Pentchev Message-Id: <200409101453.i8AEr8mR078641@freefall.freebsd.org> To: david@catwhisker.org, roam@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, roam@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/71529: (Strongly!) suggested change to listed address for postmaster@ X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:53:09 -0000 Synopsis: (Strongly!) suggested change to listed address for postmaster@ State-Changed-From-To: closed->analyzed State-Changed-By: roam State-Changed-When: Fri Sep 10 14:52:47 GMT 2004 State-Changed-Why: Oops. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->roam Responsible-Changed-By: roam Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Sep 10 14:52:47 GMT 2004 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take care of this. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=71529 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 18:40:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A250C16A4CE; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 18:40:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 530C043D2D; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 18:40:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i8AIen5u046630; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 20:40:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8AIeni9046629; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 20:40:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 20:40:49 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20040910184049.GA46394@abigail.blackend.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.10-PRERELEASE cc: doceng@FreeBSD.org Subject: REMINDER: doc/ slush scheduled on 09/17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 18:40:53 -0000 --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi all, This is just a reminder to say that the doc/ tree slush will start on 09/17. The purpose of the doc/ slush is to slow down the rate of changes in that tree in order to allow the translation teams time to finalize their work and to avoid last-minute breakage for the 5.3-RELEASE. More informations about commit policy can be found in "FreeBSD 5.3 Code Freeze Policy" document: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.3R/policy.html Thank you for your cooperation! Marc --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBQfUv81T1MWxkgcoRAkI8AJ9fDTaSs8o4mqhJrgCn046bKJkWVgCeLKvk FWgmj9fchCuVuz0cJGQNGbE= =V/Ik -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 19:00:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FBBB16A4D4 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 19:00:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E489B43D60 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 19:00:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8AJ0Wna009614 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 19:00:32 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8AJ0WHj009612; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 19:00:32 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 19:00:32 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200409101900.i8AJ0WHj009612@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Joel Dahl Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 712CB16A4CE for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 19:00:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av9-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av9-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3DEF43D39 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 19:00:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joel@automatvapen.se) Received: by av9-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id A695237F13; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 21:00:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.102]) by av9-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8425C37EBD for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 21:00:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dude.automatvapen.se (t6o955p20.telia.com [212.181.189.140]) by smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9AA0A37E44 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 21:00:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: by dude.automatvapen.se (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 10 Sep 2004 21:00:15 +0200 Message-Id: <20040910190007.9AA0A37E44@smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 21:00:15 +0200 From: "Joel Dahl" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/71566: [PATCH] FAQ update: Mention that doscmd is gone X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joel Dahl List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 19:00:43 -0000 >Number: 71566 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] FAQ update: Mention that doscmd is gone >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Sep 10 19:00:32 GMT 2004 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Joel Dahl >Release: FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD dude.automatvapen.se 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 #1: Sat Jul 10 16:52:28 CEST 2004 root@dude.automatvapen.se:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WORKSTATION i386 >Description: As I understand it, doscmd was removed from the base system a while ago and the FAQ does not mention this change. The attached patch makes the FAQ aware of this. Note that this only applies for 5.3. doscmd exists in 5.2.1. The original commit message: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?200403232227.i2NMRQn5042762 >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- doscmd.diff begins here --- --- book.sgml Sun Sep 5 16:26:40 2004 +++ new.book.sgml Fri Sep 10 20:47:23 2004 @@ -11149,9 +11149,14 @@ - Yes, you can use the integrated - doscmd DOS emulation program to - run a subset of DOS commands. + Yes, you can use emulators/doscmd, a DOS emulation + program, available in the &os; Ports Collection. + + + The doscmd program used to be an + integrated part of &os;, but was removed as of 5.3. + If doscmd will not suffice, the add-on utility Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 03:05:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4313F16A4CE for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 03:05:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1539D43D49 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 03:05:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8B351dd066121 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 03:05:01 GMT (envelope-from www@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8B351uG066119 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 03:05:01 GMT (envelope-from www) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 03:05:01 GMT From: World Wide Web Owner Message-Id: <200409110305.i8B351uG066119@www.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD web build failed on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 03:05:02 -0000 /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=KOI8-R /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -d /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/ia64/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -ino.include.historic -D /usr/obj/w/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/ia64 -c /w/www/build/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/ia64/../../../ru_RU.KOI8-R/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/ia64/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -t sgml /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/ia64/article.sgml /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml $(/usr/bin/xargs < HTML.manifest) *** Error code 1 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article.html || (/bin/rm -f article.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml article.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=KOI8-R /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -d /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/i386/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -ino.include.historic -D /usr/obj/w/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/i386 -c /w/www/build/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/i386/../../../ru_RU.KOI8-R/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/i386/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -t sgml /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/i386/article.sgml /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml $(/usr/bin/xargs < HTML.manifest) *** Error code 1 (ignored) ===> relnotes/CURRENT/installation/pc98 /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=KOI8-R /usr/local/bin/jade -V nochunks -ioutput.html -d /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/pc98/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -ino.include.historic -D /usr/obj/w/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/pc98 -c /w/www/build/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/pc98/../../../ru_RU.KOI8-R/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/pc98/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -t sgml /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/pc98/article.sgml > article.html || (/bin/rm -f article.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml article.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=KOI8-R /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -d /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/pc98/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -ino.include.historic -D /usr/obj/w/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/pc98 -c /w/www/build/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c 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%generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -ino.include.historic -D /usr/obj/w/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/sparc64 -c /w/www/build/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/sparc64/../../../ru_RU.KOI8-R/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/sparc64/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -t sgml /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/sparc64/article.sgml /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml $(/usr/bin/xargs < HTML.manifest) *** Error code 1 (ignored) ===> relnotes/CURRENT/early-adopter ===> relnotes/5-STABLE/relnotes ===> relnotes/5-STABLE/relnotes/alpha /bin/rm -f docbook.css /bin/cat /w/www/build/doc/share/misc/docbook.css > docbook.css /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=KOI8-R /usr/local/bin/jade -V nochunks -ioutput.html -d /w/www/build/relnotes5/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/relnotes/alpha/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -V %generate-article-toc% -ino.include.historic -D /usr/obj/w/www/build/relnotes5/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/relnotes/alpha -c /w/www/build/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes5/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/relnotes/alpha/../../../ru_RU.KOI8-R/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes5/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/relnotes/alpha/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -t sgml /w/www/build/relnotes5/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/relnotes/alpha/article.sgml > article.html || (/bin/rm -f article.html && false) /usr/local/bin/jade:/w/www/build/relnotes5/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/relnotes/alpha/../common/../common/new.sgml:110:7:E: general entity "release.prev.historic" not defined and no default entity *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/relnotes5/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/relnotes/alpha. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/relnotes5/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/relnotes. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/relnotes5/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/ru/relnotes. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/ru. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en. 6083.31 real 4041.01 user 384.72 sys From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 06:35:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E085316A4CF for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 06:35:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF45B43D5A for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 06:35:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (www@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8B6Z72S046010 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 06:35:07 GMT (envelope-from www@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8B6Z70W046009 for freebsd-doc; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 06:35:07 GMT (envelope-from www) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 06:35:07 GMT From: WWW pseudo-user Message-Id: <200409110635.i8B6Z70W046009@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD web build failed on freefall.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 06:35:08 -0000 /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=KOI8-R /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -d /c/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/ia64/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -ino.include.historic -D /usr/obj/c/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/ia64 -c /c/www/build/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/share/sgml/catalog -c /c/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /c/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/ia64/../../../ru_RU.KOI8-R/share/sgml/catalog -c /c/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/ia64/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -t sgml /c/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/ia64/article.sgml /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml $(/usr/bin/xargs < HTML.manifest) *** Error code 1 (ignored) ===> relnotes/CURRENT/installation/i386 /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=KOI8-R /usr/local/bin/jade -V nochunks -ioutput.html -d /c/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/i386/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -ino.include.historic -D /usr/obj/c/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/i386 -c /c/www/build/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/share/sgml/catalog -c /c/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /c/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/i386/../../../ru_RU.KOI8-R/share/sgml/catalog -c /c/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/i386/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -t sgml /c/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/i386/article.sgml > article.html || (/bin/rm -f article.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml article.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=KOI8-R /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -d /c/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/i386/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -ino.include.historic -D /usr/obj/c/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/i386 -c /c/www/build/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/share/sgml/catalog -c /c/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /c/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/i386/../../../ru_RU.KOI8-R/share/sgml/catalog -c /c/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/i386/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -t sgml /c/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/i386/article.sgml /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml $(/usr/bin/xargs < HTML.manifest) *** Error code 1 (ignored) ===> relnotes/CURRENT/installation/pc98 /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=KOI8-R /usr/local/bin/jade -V nochunks -ioutput.html -d /c/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/pc98/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -ino.include.historic -D /usr/obj/c/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/pc98 -c /c/www/build/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/share/sgml/catalog -c /c/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /c/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/pc98/../../../ru_RU.KOI8-R/share/sgml/catalog -c /c/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/pc98/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -t sgml /c/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/pc98/article.sgml > article.html || (/bin/rm -f article.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml article.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=KOI8-R /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -d /c/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/pc98/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -ino.include.historic -D /usr/obj/c/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/pc98 -c /c/www/build/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/share/sgml/catalog -c /c/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /c/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/pc98/../../../ru_RU.KOI8-R/share/sgml/catalog -c /c/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/pc98/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -t sgml /c/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/pc98/article.sgml /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml $(/usr/bin/xargs < HTML.manifest) *** Error code 1 (ignored) ===> relnotes/CURRENT/installation/sparc64 /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=KOI8-R /usr/local/bin/jade -V nochunks -ioutput.html -d /c/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/sparc64/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -ino.include.historic -D /usr/obj/c/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/sparc64 -c /c/www/build/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/share/sgml/catalog -c /c/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /c/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/sparc64/../../../ru_RU.KOI8-R/share/sgml/catalog -c /c/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/sparc64/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -t sgml /c/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/sparc64/article.sgml > article.html || (/bin/rm -f a rticle.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml article.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=KOI8-R /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -d /c/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/sparc64/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -ino.include.historic -D /usr/obj/c/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/sparc64 -c /c/www/build/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/share/sgml/catalog -c /c/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /c/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/sparc64/../../../ru_RU.KOI8-R/share/sgml/catalog -c /c/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/sparc64/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -t sgml /c/www/build/relnotes/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/installation/sparc64/article.sgml /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml $(/usr/bin/xargs < HTML.manifest) *** Error code 1 (ignored) ===> relnotes/CURRENT/early-adopter ===> relnotes/5-STABLE/relnotes ===> relnotes/5-STABLE/relnotes/alpha /bin/rm -f docbook.css /bin/cat /c/www/build/doc/share/misc/docbook.css > docbook.css /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=KOI8-R /usr/local/bin/jade -V nochunks -ioutput.html -d /c/www/build/relnotes5/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/relnotes/alpha/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -V %generate-article-toc% -ino.include.historic -D /usr/obj/c/www/build/relnotes5/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/relnotes/alpha -c /c/www/build/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/share/sgml/catalog -c /c/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /c/www/build/relnotes5/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/relnotes/alpha/../../../ru_RU.KOI8-R/share/sgml/catalog -c /c/www/build/relnotes5/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/relnotes/alpha/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -t sgml /c/www/build/relnotes5/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/relnotes/alpha/article.sgml > article.html || (/bin/rm -f article.html && false) /usr/local/bin/jade:/c/www/build/relnotes5/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/relnotes/alpha/../common/../common/new.sgml:110:7:E: general entity "release.prev.historic" not defined and no default entity *** Error code 1 Stop in /c/www/build/relnotes5/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/relnotes/alpha. *** Error code 1 Stop in /c/www/build/relnotes5/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/relnotes. *** Error code 1 Stop in /c/www/build/relnotes5/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R. *** Error code 1 Stop in /c/www/build/www/ru/relnotes. *** Error code 1 Stop in /c/www/build/www/ru. *** Error code 1 Stop in /c/www/build/www/en. 4342.32 real 2533.67 user 169.84 sys From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 07:34:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 065B216A4CE for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 07:34:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C262743D48 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 07:34:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from d@diefree.com) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (c-24-6-31-57.client.comcast.net[24.6.31.57]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <20040911073428013004t6h9e>; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 07:34:29 +0000 Message-ID: <4142AAF7.9030301@diefree.com> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 00:36:23 -0700 From: Dan Hulme User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Error in documentation X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 07:34:30 -0000 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-ipv6.html ------------------------------ List the Generic Tunneling interfaces that will be configured, for example gif0: gif_interfaces="gif0" To configure the interface with a local endpoint of MY_IPv4_ADDR to a remote endpoint of REMOTE_IPv4_ADDR: gif_config_gif0="MY_IPv4_ADDR REMOTE_IPv4_ADDR" To apply the IPv6 address you have been assigned for use as your IPv6 tunnel endpoint, add: ------------------------------- This should be gifconfig_gif0 (not gif_config_gif0) as this is what network.subr looks for. -Dan From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 08:41:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6521816A4CE for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 08:41:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from beaver.trit.org (beaver.trit.org [69.107.245.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B89743D49 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 08:41:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dima@trit.org) Received: by beaver.trit.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DD0B390D659; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 08:41:23 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 08:41:23 +0000 From: Dima Dorfman To: Dan Hulme Message-ID: <20040911084123.GB67890@trit.org> References: <4142AAF7.9030301@diefree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4142AAF7.9030301@diefree.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-PGP-Key: 69FAE582 (http://www.trit.org/~dima/dima.asc) X-PGP-Fingerprint: B340 8338 7DA3 4D61 7632 098E 0730 055B 69FA E582 cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Error in documentation X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 08:41:24 -0000 Dan Hulme wrote: > gifconfig_gif0 (not gif_config_gif0) Fixed, thanks! From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 15:50:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA77616A4CE for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 15:50:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A241A43D45 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 15:50:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8BFoEDn003987 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 15:50:14 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8BFoEKs003986; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 15:50:14 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 15:50:14 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200409111550.i8BFoEKs003986@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Linh Pham Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A7216A4CE for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 15:42:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte244.dsl-acs2.sea.iinet.com [209.20.244.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC4F243D1F for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 15:42:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from question@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C2F5545039; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 08:38:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <20040911153853.C2F5545039@q.closedsrc.org> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 08:38:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/71595: URL listed in hme(4) no longer valid and needs to be updated X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Linh Pham List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 15:50:16 -0000 >Number: 71595 >Category: docs >Synopsis: URL listed in hme(4) no longer valid and needs to be updated >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Sep 11 15:50:14 GMT 2004 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Linh Pham >Release: FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p8 i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD q.internal.closedsrc.org 5.2.1-RELEASE-p8 FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p8 #2: Sat Jun 5 19:22:58 PDT 2004 question@q.internal.closedsrc.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/Q i386 >Description: The URL listed in the SEE ALSO section of hme(4) for the FEPS User's Guide is no longer valid due to Sun re-organizing their site directory structure. I found the current location of the PDF and have attached a patch to update hme(4) >How-To-Repeat: man 4 hme >Fix: --- hme.4.diff begins here --- --- /usr/src/share/man/man4/hme.4 Tue Jun 10 11:53:15 2003 +++ hme.4.new Sat Sep 11 08:32:44 2004 @@ -94,7 +94,7 @@ .%T "STP2002QFP Fast Ethernet, Parallel Port, SCSI (FEPS) User's Guide" .%D April 1996 .%A Sun Microelectronics -.%O http://www.sun.com/microelectronics/manuals/STP2002QFP-UG.pdf +.%O http://www.sun.com/oem/products/manuals/STP2002QFP-UG.pdf .Re .Sh HISTORY The --- hme.4.diff ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 16:00:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 329E816A4E4 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:00:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A0943D1D for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:00:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8BG0jBA005057 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:00:45 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8BG0jDj005056; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:00:45 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:00:45 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200409111600.i8BG0jDj005056@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Linh Pham Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80DCF16A4CE for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:00:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte244.dsl-acs2.sea.iinet.com [209.20.244.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55FDC43D53 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:00:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from question@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A579D4503A; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 08:56:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <20040911155659.A579D4503A@q.closedsrc.org> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 08:56:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/71600: ti(4) - dud URL for Alteon documentation X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Linh Pham List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:00:46 -0000 >Number: 71600 >Category: docs >Synopsis: ti(4) - dud URL for Alteon documentation >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Sep 11 16:00:44 GMT 2004 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Linh Pham >Release: FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p8 i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD q.internal.closedsrc.org 5.2.1-RELEASE-p8 FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p8 #2: Sat Jun 5 19:22:58 PDT 2004 question@q.internal.closedsrc.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/Q i386 >Description: In the SEE ALSO section of ti(4), there is a URL that refers to the Alteon NIC manuals. The URL is invalid and documentation on the AceNIC cards are no longer after Nortel acquired Alteon. The attach patch removes the URL and the referring text from the man page. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- ti.4.diff begins here --- --- /usr/src/share/man/man4/ti.4 Mon Sep 8 12:57:19 2003 +++ ti.4.new Sat Sep 11 08:52:00 2004 @@ -302,8 +302,6 @@ .Xr jumbo 9 , .Xr zero_copy 9 .Rs -.%T Alteon Gigabit Ethernet/PCI NIC manuals -.%O http://sanjose.alteon.com/open.shtml .Re .Sh HISTORY The --- ti.4.diff ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 16:19:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 021EE16A4CF; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:19:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D287743D58; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:19:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (simon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i8BGJWK2009828; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:19:32 GMT (envelope-from simon@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from simon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8BGJWfT009824; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:19:32 GMT (envelope-from simon) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:19:32 GMT From: "Simon L. Nielsen" Message-Id: <200409111619.i8BGJWfT009824@freefall.freebsd.org> To: question+freebsdpr@closedsrc.org, simon@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/71595: URL listed in hme(4) no longer valid and needs to be updated X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:19:33 -0000 Synopsis: URL listed in hme(4) no longer valid and needs to be updated State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: simon State-Changed-When: Sat Sep 11 16:17:59 GMT 2004 State-Changed-Why: This has already been fixed in hme.4 version 1.2, but thanks for the submission anyway. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=71595 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 16:52:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD3E16A4CE for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:52:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from internet.potentialtech.com (h-66-167-251-6.phlapafg.covad.net [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A82BC43D39 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:52:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from working.potentialtech.com (pa-plum-cmts1e-68-68-113-64.pittpa.adelphia.net [68.68.113.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by internet.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B971769A71 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 12:52:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 12:52:38 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: doc@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20040911125238.6d61f9d8.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Organization: Potential Technologies X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Something wrong with the online man pages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:52:41 -0000 Am I the only one who's seeing raw HTML here, or has something gotten borked with the online man pages? http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=periodic&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+5.2.1-RELEASE+and+Ports&format=html -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 17:44:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16D6516A4CE; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:44:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc2-cdif3-6-0-cust204.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.67.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB13443D48; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:44:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.42 (FreeBSD)) id 1C6Bux-000Oj2-TZ; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 18:44:07 +0100 Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 18:44:07 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Bill Moran Message-ID: <20040911174407.GY44674@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Bill Moran , doc@freebsd.org, wosch@FreeBSD.org, kuriyama@FreeBSD.org References: <20040911125238.6d61f9d8.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="hLTC+yGFJlatjToQ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040911125238.6d61f9d8.wmoran@potentialtech.com> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: wosch@FreeBSD.org cc: doc@freebsd.org cc: kuriyama@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Something wrong with the online man pages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:44:09 -0000 --hLTC+yGFJlatjToQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Sep 11, 2004 at 12:52:38PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote: >=20 > Am I the only one who's seeing raw HTML here, or has something gotten > borked with the online man pages? > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dperiodic&apropos=3D0&sektion= =3D0&manpath=3DFreeBSD+5.2.1-RELEASE+and+Ports&format=3Dhtml I think the clue is here: exec /usr/bin/lockf -t 60 /tmp/man.cgi.lock /usr/bin/man failed but I can't see why this would be failing. CC to kuriyama and wosch to see if they have any clues. Ceri --=20 It is not tinfoil, it is my new skin. I am a robot. --hLTC+yGFJlatjToQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBQzlnocfcwTS3JF8RAocMAKCLhfc+A3nK2L7JFlY8VkeBuhwU2wCePnBp yFhYr5B+7oP344X1OSqnLes= =R6wz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --hLTC+yGFJlatjToQ-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 17:52:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBFF916A4CF for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:52:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from max71.rrze.uni-erlangen.de (max71.rrze.uni-erlangen.de [131.188.3.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A753543D54 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:52:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Jochen.Kaiser@rrze.uni-erlangen.de) Received: from devil.rrze.uni-erlangen.de (devil.rrze.uni-erlangen.de [131.188.3.178]) by max71.rrze.uni-erlangen.de with ESMTP for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 19:52:00 +0200 Received: from devil.rrze.uni-erlangen.de (devil.rrze.uni-erlangen.de [127.0.0.1])i8BHq007057444 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 19:52:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from unrz111@devil.rrze.uni-erlangen.de) Received: (from unrz111@localhost)i8BHq0gj057443 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 19:52:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from unrz111) From: Jochen Kaiser Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 19:52:00 +0200 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20040911175200.GB57265@devil.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Spam-DCC: rrze-dcc:spamela 1202; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64-rrze_33 (2004-01-11) on spamela.rrze.uni-erlangen.de X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=ham X-Spam-Relays-untrusted: X-Spam-RBL: X-Spam-Relays-trusted: [ ip=131.188.3.178 rdns=devil.rrze.uni-erlangen.de helo=devil.rrze.uni-erlangen.de by=max71.rrze.uni-erlangen.de ident= ] X-Spam-Eval: ham X-Spam-RRZE-Info: Diese Mail wurde einer automatischen Spam-Analyse unterzogen, siehe: http://www.rrze.uni-erlangen.de/dienste/e-mail/spam-analyse/ Subject: broken link on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:52:26 -0000 hi, http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/consulting.html seems missing. great job, JK -- Dipl. Inf. Jochen Kaiser, GPG 0x3C93A870, phone +49 9131 85-28681 Network Administration mailto:jochen.kaiser@rrze.uni-erlangen.de Regionales Rechenzentrum Universitaet Erlangen-Nuernberg, Germany http://ipv6.rrze.uni-erlangen.de/~unrz111 private:jnkaiser@gmx.de From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 18:08:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D62A16A4CE for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 18:08:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc2-cdif3-6-0-cust204.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.67.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41E2B43D5A for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 18:08:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.42 (FreeBSD)) id 1C6CIY-000OoR-Av; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 19:08:30 +0100 Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 19:08:30 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Jochen Kaiser Message-ID: <20040911180830.GZ44674@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Jochen Kaiser , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20040911175200.GB57265@devil.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uOZhbHG+Ruum37TI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040911175200.GB57265@devil.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: broken link on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 18:08:31 -0000 --uOZhbHG+Ruum37TI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Sep 11, 2004 at 07:52:00PM +0200, Jochen Kaiser wrote: > hi, >=20 > http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/consulting.html >=20 > seems missing. It doesn't exist anymore - try http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/consult.html. Ceri --=20 It is not tinfoil, it is my new skin. I am a robot. --uOZhbHG+Ruum37TI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBQz8eocfcwTS3JF8RAtxSAKCx73c3rvSv5lM/loo5lGzd+LAgxgCfX2/K rxsT9jgpo6wmsQp/i01k5n8= =CwKg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uOZhbHG+Ruum37TI-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 20:51:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDF8316A4CE; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 20:51:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DBF843D1F; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 20:51:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from mailhost.cs.tu-berlin.de (postfix@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.3p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA04630; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:51:17 +0200 (MEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhost.cs.tu-berlin.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03ADF219; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:51:16 +0200 (MEST) Received: from mailhost.cs.tu-berlin.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bueno [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10224) with ESMTP id 14682-43; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:51:16 +0200 (MEST) Received: from fiesta.cs.tu-berlin.de (fiesta.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.4]) by mailhost.cs.tu-berlin.de (Postfix) with ESMTP; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:51:16 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from wosch@localhost)i8BKpGRw018457; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:51:16 +0200 (MEST) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:51:16 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Ceri Davies , Bill Moran , doc@FreeBSD.org, wosch@FreeBSD.org, kuriyama@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20040911205116.GA16827@fiesta.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <20040911125238.6d61f9d8.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20040911174407.GY44674@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040911174407.GY44674@submonkey.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cs.tu-berlin.de Subject: Re: Something wrong with the online man pages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 20:51:19 -0000 On 2004-09-11 18:44:07 +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: > On Sat, Sep 11, 2004 at 12:52:38PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote: > > > > Am I the only one who's seeing raw HTML here, or has something gotten > > borked with the online man pages? > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=periodic&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+5.2.1-RELEASE+and+Ports&format=html > > I think the clue is here: > > exec /usr/bin/lockf -t 60 /tmp/man.cgi.lock /usr/bin/man failed > > but I can't see why this would be failing. > > CC to kuriyama and wosch to see if they have any clues. fixed. -Wolfram -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org