From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 12 02:19:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4FF16A4CE for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 02:19:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from Neo-Vortex.Ath.Cx (203-217-85-229.dyn.iinet.net.au [203.217.85.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FCD943D2F for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 02:19:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@Neo-Vortex.Ath.Cx) Received: from localhost.Neo-Vortex.got-root.cc (Neo-Vortex@localhost.Neo-Vortex.got-root.cc [127.0.0.1]) by Neo-Vortex.Ath.Cx (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8C2Jf5x001978 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 12:19:41 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from root@Neo-Vortex.Ath.Cx) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 12:19:41 +1000 (EST) From: Neo-Vortex To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040912121750.A1970@Neo-Vortex.Ath.Cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: documentation error X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 02:19:45 -0000 handbook/ipsec.html ``If a packet leaves from A.B.C.D, and that packet is encapsulating another packet, and it is destined for W.X.Y.Z, then encrypt it, using the necessary security associations.'' ``If a packet arrives from W.X.Y.Z, and that packet is encapsulating another packet, and it is destined for A.B.C.D, then encrypt it, using the necessary security associations.'' should be ``If a packet leaves from A.B.C.D, and that packet is encapsulating another packet, and it is destined for W.X.Y.Z, then encrypt it, using the necessary security associations.'' ``If a packet arrives from W.X.Y.Z, and that packet is encapsulating another packet, and it is destined for A.B.C.D, then decrypt it, using the necessary security associations.'' (swapping of encrypt to decrypt in the second one) From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 12 04:15:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5113316A4CF; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 04:15:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from black.imgsrc.co.jp (black.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.147]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B21AF43D3F; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 04:15:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by black.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id A19D750B8C; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 13:15:30 +0900 (JST) Received: from black.imgsrc.co.jp (black.imgsrc.co.jp [IPv6:2001:218:422:2::9999]) by black.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D46750B81; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 13:15:29 +0900 (JST) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 13:15:29 +0900 Message-ID: <7mwtz0nmvy.wl@black.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: Ceri Davies , Bill Moran , doc@FreeBSD.org, wosch@FreeBSD.org, kuriyama@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <20040911205116.GA16827@fiesta.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <20040911125238.6d61f9d8.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20040911174407.GY44674@submonkey.net> <20040911205116.GA16827@fiesta.cs.tu-berlin.de> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.10.1 (Watching The Wheels) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.6 (Marutamachi) APEL/10.6 Emacs/21.3 (i386--freebsd) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd 0.1 Subject: Re: Something wrong with the online man pages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 04:15:33 -0000 At Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:51:16 +0200, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > > > Am I the only one who's seeing raw HTML here, or has something gotten > > > borked with the online man pages? > > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=periodic&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+5.2.1-RELEASE+and+Ports&format=html > > > > I think the clue is here: > > > > exec /usr/bin/lockf -t 60 /tmp/man.cgi.lock /usr/bin/man failed > > > > but I can't see why this would be failing. > > > > CC to kuriyama and wosch to see if they have any clues. > > fixed. -Wolfram Grrr, sorry. I've modified to use lockf to avoid request bomb for man.cgi. It seems robots is crowling man.cgi and cvsweb.cgi tree and load avg is 50-60 on www at that time. -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. // FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 12 05:24:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 621BB16A4CE for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 05:24:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B41043D1F for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 05:24:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bidjan@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 74so120535rnl for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:24:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.24.17 with SMTP id 17mr519372rnx; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:24:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.22.30 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:24:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 01:24:13 -0400 From: Pablo Mora To: doc@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pablo Mora List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 05:24:14 -0000 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 12 12:06:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AF0516A4CE for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 12:06:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc2-cdif3-6-0-cust204.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.67.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9526C43D3F for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 12:06:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.42 (FreeBSD)) id 1C6T85-0001t0-Om; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 13:06:49 +0100 Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 13:06:49 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Neo-Vortex Message-ID: <20040912120649.GA44674@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Neo-Vortex , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <20040912121750.A1970@Neo-Vortex.Ath.Cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="eLx2Oic5rP1+EtIt" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040912121750.A1970@Neo-Vortex.Ath.Cx> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: documentation error X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 12:06:51 -0000 --eLx2Oic5rP1+EtIt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 12, 2004 at 12:19:41PM +1000, Neo-Vortex wrote: > handbook/ipsec.html >=20 > ``If a packet leaves from A.B.C.D, and that packet is encapsulating > another packet, and it is destined for W.X.Y.Z, then encrypt it, using the > necessary security associations.'' >=20 > ``If a packet arrives from W.X.Y.Z, and that packet is encapsulating > another packet, and it is destined for A.B.C.D, then encrypt it, using the > necessary security associations.'' >=20 > should be >=20 > ``If a packet leaves from A.B.C.D, and that packet is encapsulating > another packet, and it is destined for W.X.Y.Z, then encrypt it, using the > necessary security associations.'' >=20 > ``If a packet arrives from W.X.Y.Z, and that packet is encapsulating > another packet, and it is destined for A.B.C.D, then decrypt it, using the > necessary security associations.'' >=20 > (swapping of encrypt to decrypt in the second one) Corrected - thank you. Ceri --=20 It is not tinfoil, it is my new skin. I am a robot. --eLx2Oic5rP1+EtIt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBRDvZocfcwTS3JF8RAiFDAJ4zH9fow6HxfGN419s5ZEmThdamSgCeI+oc XRHTQWzehqssc+BT4e842LA= =/ixW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --eLx2Oic5rP1+EtIt-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 12 13:36:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07EDF16A4CE for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 13:36:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zaphod.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB8243D45 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 13:36:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@zaphod.nitro.dk) Received: by zaphod.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 3000) id EDC6D11AE0; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 15:36:15 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 15:36:15 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Rocco Carbone Message-ID: <20040912133615.GC771@zaphod.nitro.dk> References: <41414E28.8080302@switch.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="A6N2fC+uXW/VQSAv" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41414E28.8080302@switch.ch> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: doc@FreeBSD.org cc: mirror@switch.ch Subject: Re: Swiss SunSITE changes the name X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 13:36:18 -0000 --A6N2fC+uXW/VQSAv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2004.09.10 08:48:08 +0200, Rocco Carbone wrote: > SWITCHmirror replaces the mirror service on Swiss SunSITE. >=20 > On the page=20 > ,=20 >=20 > could you please replace the reference to Swiss SunSITE with the one to= =20 > SWITCHmirror? I can't see any reference to Swiss SunSITE on that page, only to ftp://ftp.ch.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ so what specificly should be changed? --=20 Simon L. Nielsen FreeBSD Documentation Team --A6N2fC+uXW/VQSAv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBRFDPh9pcDSc1mlERAmqyAKCf+Fl3vATz5CVHjOSG5UFMuQy86gCgt9vF nTvDUFw+LAfPuMD76JwWiQ8= =slxC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --A6N2fC+uXW/VQSAv-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 12 13:48:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68CF016A4CE; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 13:48:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A07243D4C; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 13:48:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (simon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i8CDmsN6084037; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 13:48:54 GMT (envelope-from simon@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from simon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8CDmrhm084033; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 13:48:53 GMT (envelope-from simon) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 13:48:53 GMT From: "Simon L. Nielsen" Message-Id: <200409121348.i8CDmrhm084033@freefall.freebsd.org> To: joel@automatvapen.se, simon@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/71533: [PATCH] FAQ update: SMP is enabled by default since 5.2. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 13:48:54 -0000 Synopsis: [PATCH] FAQ update: SMP is enabled by default since 5.2. State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: simon State-Changed-When: Sun Sep 12 13:48:10 GMT 2004 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks for the submission! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=71533 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 12 17:24:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E13F416A4CE for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 17:24:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gronouski.mail.atl.earthlink.net (gronouski.mail.atl.earthlink.net [199.174.114.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADA6D43D1F for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 17:24:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aaron@the-gibsons.org) Received: from node-d8e93855-dca-onnet.us.uu.net ([216.233.59.86] helo=aaron) by gronouski.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1C6Y5S-00053d-00 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 10:24:27 -0700 From: "Aaron Gibson" To: Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 13:24:26 -0400 Organization: The Gibsons Message-ID: <000001c498ed$5acf1b50$6501a8c0@aaron> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-ELNK-Trace: d7899d5d4e85587a99d3fcd8b549784b6e7758a42d7f30c99ce41ff20fb9dd75b18fe82ad8504d75350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: 2.12 Advanced Installation Guide (Headless Install) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: aaron@the-gibsons.org List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 17:24:28 -0000 After modifying kern.flp for release 4.10 with a boot.config file = containing the text: /boot/loader -h the system will not boot from the floppy. When a monitor is attached to = view the output that is not re-directed to the serial console the following output is displayed: =20 /boot.config: /boot/loader -h =20 The system hangs at this point and does not proceed any further. =20 Please advise. =20 Thanks Aaron Gibson From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 12 19:27:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E691516A4CE for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 19:27:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc2-cdif3-6-0-cust204.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.67.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A457C43D2D for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 19:27:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.42 (FreeBSD)) id 1C6a0t-0000e1-64; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 20:27:51 +0100 Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 20:27:51 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Aaron Gibson Message-ID: <20040912192751.GA1538@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Aaron Gibson , doc@FreeBSD.org References: <000001c498ed$5acf1b50$6501a8c0@aaron> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000001c498ed$5acf1b50$6501a8c0@aaron> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 2.12 Advanced Installation Guide (Headless Install) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 19:27:53 -0000 --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 12, 2004 at 01:24:26PM -0400, Aaron Gibson wrote: > After modifying kern.flp for release 4.10 with a boot.config file contain= ing > the text: >=20 > /boot/loader -h >=20 > the system will not boot from the floppy. When a monitor is attached to v= iew > the output that is not re-directed to the serial console the following > output is displayed: /boot.config should contain nothing other than the options, i.e.: # cat /boot.config -h # Where did you see the advice telling you to enter "/boot/loader -h" in that file? It needs correcting. Ceri --=20 It is not tinfoil, it is my new skin. I am a robot. --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBRKM2ocfcwTS3JF8RAmq9AJ9WwowmnrssxdmcMTlFQGiEAFAiAQCfX03m b69B/PqlVl0PCUf/v9T9l54= =PLwy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 12 20:02:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC36A16A4CE; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 20:02:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 921B043D2D; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 20:02:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (simon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i8CK2D8f024199; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 20:02:13 GMT (envelope-from simon@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from simon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8CK2Dm7024195; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 20:02:13 GMT (envelope-from simon) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 20:02:13 GMT From: "Simon L. Nielsen" Message-Id: <200409122002.i8CK2Dm7024195@freefall.freebsd.org> To: simon@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, simon@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/70616: incompleteness and error in su(1) man page X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 20:02:13 -0000 Synopsis: incompleteness and error in su(1) man page Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->simon Responsible-Changed-By: simon Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Sep 12 20:02:06 GMT 2004 Responsible-Changed-Why: I will take this. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=70616 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 12 20:07:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C57E16A4D3 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 20:07:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nic.ach.sch.gr (nic.sch.gr [194.63.238.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9F643D48 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 20:07:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (qmail 16807 invoked by uid 207); 12 Sep 2004 20:07:34 -0000 Received: from keramida@freebsd.org by nic by uid 201 with qmail-scanner-1.21 (sophie: 3.04/2.19/3.81. Clear:RC:1(81.186.70.47):. Processed in 8.39212 secs); 12 Sep 2004 20:07:34 -0000 Received: from dialup47.ach.sch.gr (HELO gothmog.gr) ([81.186.70.47]) (envelope-sender ) by nic.sch.gr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 12 Sep 2004 20:07:24 -0000 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i8CIEPkm001701; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 21:14:25 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i8CIEPnu001700; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 21:14:25 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 21:14:25 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: John Baldwin , Ceri Davies Message-ID: <20040912181425.GC1047@gothmog.gr> References: <20040908201737.GG44674@submonkey.net> <20040908182322.L1034@wonkity.com> <20040909075121.GJ44674@submonkey.net> <200409091047.25148.jhb@FreeBSD.org> <20040910081323.GB2296@straylight.m.ringlet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040910081323.GB2296@straylight.m.ringlet.net> Phone: +30-2610-312145 Mobile: +30-6944-116520 cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: i.e. vs. e.g. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 20:07:37 -0000 On 2004-09-10 11:13, Peter Pentchev wrote: > > The reason for avoiding contractions though is to avoid confusing > > non-native readers, and I think that that's a good argument for > > spelling out i.e. as "that is", and e.g. as "for example" as well > > unless this type of idiom is common to more than just English. > > I have a gut feeling that pretty much all languages probably have > "predefined", often-used contractions for "that is" and "for example"; > I can certainly vouch for Bulgarian and Russian. Same for Greek. We have at least 3 similar "well-known" contractions; one of them is used as a substitute of both `i.e.' and `e.g.'. I don't think that we should avoid altogether the use of i.e./e.g. Adding a note to the FDP Primer, with the excellent explanation of their different meaning that Ceri posted earlier on this thread, is definitely a good idea though. Just my $0.02, Giorgos From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 12 20:45:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E56AC16A4CE for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 20:45:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zaphod.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92A6043D39 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 20:45:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@zaphod.nitro.dk) Received: by zaphod.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 3000) id C884E11AE0; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 22:45:25 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 22:45:25 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Mark Johnston Message-ID: <20040912204525.GK771@zaphod.nitro.dk> References: <200408301910.55379.mjohnston@skyweb.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3eH4Qcq5fItR5cpy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200408301910.55379.mjohnston@skyweb.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hardware note auto-generation - status? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 20:45:28 -0000 --3eH4Qcq5fItR5cpy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2004.08.30 19:10:55 -0500, Mark Johnston wrote: > What's up, -doc? * Hey, sorry about the delay in answering your mail. > In summarizing the cvs-src commits lately, I've noticed a fair bit of wor= k=20 > going into retrofitting the man pages to support auto-generation of hardw= are=20 > notes. I'm afraid I haven't followed the doc@ list since that was a WIBN= I=20 > instead of a WIP, so I'm not sure of the status of the project. I would = like=20 > to mention it in the cvs-src summary when it's all through; is there a=20 > certain src commit I should be watching for to tip me off when it's done?= =20 Well, it's progressing fairly well at the moment, but there is still some way to go before it's done. The goal is still to auto generate listings for most devices that has a manual page for the 5.3 release. > Alternatively, would it be possible for someone involved to drop me a bri= ef=20 > note when a mention would be most appropriate? Sure, I can do that. It will probably be sometime around 5.3-RELEASE. > BTW, I'm not averse to mentioning other significant doc@ commits, althoug= h I=20 > don't have time to follow the doc cvs. If there are commits or general= =20 > changes that you'd like to see me note in a summary, please drop me a mai= l. =20 OK - this could also be a good way for other contributors to help the doc project out a bit (hint hint, to whoever other doc@ people that read this :-) ). Actually I think it's worth nothing the DocBook slides murray@ added (in doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/slides/) this week. E.g.: Murray Stokely (murray) added some general slides about FreeBSD that can be used when doing presentations about FreeBSD. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?200409071215.i87CFCgD024825 > * Sorry, you've probably heard it a million times. :) He, I actually hadn't heard that one before :-). --=20 Simon L. Nielsen FreeBSD Documentation Team --3eH4Qcq5fItR5cpy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBRLVlh9pcDSc1mlERAjBnAJ9MEklJK6UFVLfGd9D9YsYBrCSVfQCfdjQh SP2Zn5qIycLxdS9z0sPK/HM= =r3S3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3eH4Qcq5fItR5cpy-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 01:50:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A68716A4CE for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 01:50:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2007B43D1F for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 01:50:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8D1oPPC062644 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 01:50:25 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8D1oO37062643; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 01:50:24 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 01:50:24 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200409130150.i8D1oO37062643@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, "Thomas T. Veldhouse" Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F00D16A4CE for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 01:44:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6503F43D3F for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 01:44:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8D1iZVC031800 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 01:44:35 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8D1NHPU014287; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 01:23:18 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200409130123.i8D1NHPU014287@www.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 01:23:18 GMT From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-2.3 Subject: docs/71691: PF related files missing .... X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 01:50:25 -0000 >Number: 71691 >Category: docs >Synopsis: PF related files missing .... >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: update >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Sep 13 01:50:24 GMT 2004 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Thomas T. Veldhouse >Release: 5.3-BETA4 >Organization: Veldy.net >Environment: FreeBSD ekg.veldy.net 5.3-BETA4 FreeBSD 5.3-BETA4 #0: Sun Sep 12 02:04:54 CDT 2004 veldy@ekg.veldy.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FUGGLE i386 >Description: The /etc/pf.conf file indicates that examples and related documentation should exist under /usr/share/pf, but it does not [exist anywhere]. Also, Max Laier indicated that perhaps /etc/pf.conf be moved [perhaps to /etc/pf.conf.example?] so that mergemaster doesn't accidentally blow away a perfectly good /etc/pf.conf file. >How-To-Repeat: N/A >Fix: Put examples and related doco in /usr/share/pf [and /usr/share/examples/pf]. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 05:30:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C3EB16A4CE for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 05:30:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2952A43D6E for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 05:30:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8D5UcRD092313 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 05:30:38 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8D5UcjH092312; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 05:30:38 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 05:30:38 GMT Message-Id: <200409130530.i8D5UcjH092312@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Paul Armstrong Subject: Re: docs/70652: New man page: portindex(5) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Armstrong List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 05:30:38 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/70652; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Paul Armstrong To: Oliver Eikemeier Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/70652: New man page: portindex(5) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 22:30:04 -0700 On Sat, Aug 21, 2004 at 12:29:51PM +0200, Oliver Eikemeier wrote: > >The following apply to > >.Pa INDEX-5 > >only: > > Really? There is no code in `describe' that differs depending on > OSVERSION. Besides, methods to refresh the INDEX should be mentioned > (make index, make fetchindex), some internals (make describe) and > applications (make search) Is this better? \" \" Copyright (c) 2004 Paul Armstrong \" \" All rights reserved. \" \" Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without \" modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions \" are met: \" 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright \" notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. \" 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright \" notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the \" documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. \" \" THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE DEVELOPERS ``AS IS'' AND ANY EXPRESS OR \" IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES \" OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED. \" IN NO EVENT SHALL THE DEVELOPERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, \" INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT \" NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, \" DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY \" THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT \" (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF \" THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE. \" \" $FreeBSD$ \" Dd August 14, 2004 Dt PORTINDEX 5 Os Sh NAME Nm INDEX Nd pre-compiled information about the ports tree Sh SYNOPSYS Nm /usr/ports/INDEX Nm /usr/ports/INDEX-5 Sh DESCRIPTION The Nm file can be used to quickly search through the available ports using the Nm Makefile in the base of the ports tree. Sh FILE FORMAT The file Pa /usr/ports/INDEX-5 (or Pa /usr/ports/INDEX on FreeBSD <= 4) contains the following fields seperated by a pipe (``|''): \"http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-ports/2004-June/013462.html Bl -tag -compact -width indent It Cm \&name The name of the port It Cm \&path The full path to the port It Cm \&install prefix The default install prefix It Cm \&short description A short description It Cm \&full description The path to the full description It Cm \&maintainer email The email address of the maintainer It Cm \&index The collections this port is part of It Cm \&build dependancies Other ports required to build this port It Cm \&run dependancies Other ports required for this port to run It Cm \&website The project website for the port It Cm \&e-deps Other ports required to extract this port It Cm \&p-deps Other ports required to patch this port It Cm \&f-deps Other ports required to fetch this port El Sh USAGE The following targets in the ports Nm Makefile apply to the Nm file. Bl -tag -compact -width indent It Cm fetchindex fetches the latest copy of the index file from http://www.freebsd.org/ports/ It Cm index creates a version based on the local ports tree It Cm search key= searches the ports tree for ports containing Cm in any part of the port description It Cm search name= searches the ports tree for ports containing Cm in the port name It Cm print-index prints out the contents of the Nm file in a neat format El Sh FILES Bl -tag -width -compact It Pa /usr/ports/INDEX-5 The INDEX file (FreeBSD >= 5) It Pa /usr/ports/INDEX The INDEX file (FreeBSD <= 4) It Pa /usr/ports/Tools/make_index The main routines for building the Nm file. It Pa /usr/ports/Makefile The toplevel Makefile used to generate the Nm file. It Pa /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk This include provides the describe function for building short descriptions of each port. El Sh ENVIRONMENT Bl -tag -width -compact It Ev INDEX_JOBS The number of concurrent jobs to run when building the Nm file It Ev INDEX_QUIET Don't print the warning at the end of the build It Ev INDEX_VERBOSE Print out each port as it is processed El Sh EXAMPLES Bd -literal vim-6.3.15|/usr/ports/editors/vim|/usr/local|Vi "workalike", with many additional features|/usr/ports/editors/vim/pkg-descr|obrien@FreeBSD.org|editors|libiconv-1.9.2_1|libiconv-1.9.2_1|http://www.vim.org/||| Ed Sh SEE ALSO Xr ports 7 Xr cvsup 1 Sh AUTHORS An -nosplit This man page was originated by An Paul Armstrong Aq psa+freebsd@otoh.org . From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 05:51:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC5316A4CE; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 05:51:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF32E43D5D; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 05:51:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (linimon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i8D5p6ps005955; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 05:51:06 GMT (envelope-from linimon@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from linimon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8D5p6iP005951; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 05:51:06 GMT (envelope-from linimon) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 05:51:06 GMT From: Mark Linimon Message-Id: <200409130551.i8D5p6iP005951@freefall.freebsd.org> To: linimon@FreeBSD.org, chern@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/33724: [patch] a very minor documentation error X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 05:51:07 -0000 Old Synopsis: a very minor documentation error New Synopsis: [patch] a very minor documentation error Responsible-Changed-From-To: chern->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: linimon Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Sep 13 05:50:40 GMT 2004 Responsible-Changed-Why: With bugmeister hat on, reassign from recently inactive committer. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=33724 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 06:58:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FC5916A4CE; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 06:58:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E466843D2F; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 06:58:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (simon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i8D6w55q018381; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 06:58:05 GMT (envelope-from simon@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from simon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8D6w5jN018377; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 06:58:05 GMT (envelope-from simon) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 06:58:05 GMT From: "Simon L. Nielsen" Message-Id: <200409130658.i8D6w5jN018377@freefall.freebsd.org> To: simon@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, mlaier@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/71691: PF related files missing .... X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 06:58:06 -0000 Synopsis: PF related files missing .... Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->mlaier Responsible-Changed-By: simon Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Sep 13 06:57:45 GMT 2004 Responsible-Changed-Why: Over to pf maintainer. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=71691 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 10:20:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 021A716A4CE for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:20:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFD5643D58 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:20:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8DAKN3K045735 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:20:23 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8DAKNO1045732; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:20:23 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:20:23 GMT Message-Id: <200409131020.i8DAKNO1045732@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Peter Pentchev Subject: Re: docs/71566: [PATCH] FAQ update: Mention that doscmd is gone X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Peter Pentchev List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:20:24 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/71566; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Peter Pentchev To: Joel Dahl Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/71566: [PATCH] FAQ update: Mention that doscmd is gone Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:13:32 +0300 On Fri, Sep 10, 2004 at 09:00:15PM +0200, Joel Dahl wrote: > > >Number: 71566 > >Category: docs > >Synopsis: [PATCH] FAQ update: Mention that doscmd is gone > >Arrival-Date: Fri Sep 10 19:00:32 GMT 2004 > >Originator: Joel Dahl > >Description: > As I understand it, doscmd was removed from the base system > a while ago and the FAQ does not mention this change. > The attached patch makes the FAQ aware of this. [snip] > > >How-To-Repeat: > > >Fix: [snip patch] What do you think about the following rewording of the note? Index: book.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/dcvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.646 diff -u -r1.646 book.sgml --- book.sgml 12 Sep 2004 18:38:47 -0000 1.646 +++ book.sgml 13 Sep 2004 10:11:56 -0000 @@ -11153,9 +11153,15 @@ - Yes, you can use the integrated - doscmd DOS emulation program to - run a subset of DOS commands. + Yes, you can use emulators/doscmd, a DOS emulation + program, available in the &os; Ports Collection. + + + The doscmd program used to be an + integrated part of &os;, but was removed before the release of + &os; 5.3. + If doscmd will not suffice, the add-on utility Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD58516A4CE for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:01:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B918F43D2D for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:01:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8DB14Ii047920 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:01:04 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8DB13ua047894 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:01:03 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:01:03 GMT Message-Id: <200409131101.i8DB13ua047894@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:01:05 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The problem is understood and a solution is being sought. f - feedback Further work requires additional information from the originator or the community - possibly confirmation of the effectiveness of a proposed solution. p - patched A patch has been committed, but some issues (MFC and / or confirmation from originator) are still open. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on, due to lack of information or resources. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested -- or when fixing the problem is abandoned. Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s [2000/07/19] docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags o [2001/05/24] docs/27605 doc Cross-document references () s [2002/03/08] docs/35678 doc docproj Makefiles for web are broken for o [2002/03/21] docs/36168 doc -pthread/_THREAD_SAFE docs missing in gcc o [2002/09/14] docs/42762 doc ppp.8 has no description of $env and ~use o [2002/11/15] docs/45303 doc Bug in PDF DocBook rendering o [2003/12/29] docs/60679 doc pthreads documentation does not describe o [2004/01/19] docs/61558 doc New SMC 2602W cards, using the ADM8211, a o [2004/01/20] docs/61605 doc Improve documentation for i386 disk geome o [2004/02/10] docs/62665 doc setting up X display subsystem function i o [2004/03/10] docs/64063 doc Size of block in File System Quota docume o [2004/08/25] docs/70952 doc Handbook section 16.6.2 has bad example o [2004/09/04] docs/71359 doc /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf contain o [2004/09/11] docs/71600 doc ti(4) - dud URL for Alteon documentation 14 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s [1999/10/04] docs/14135 doc lpt1 nolonger exists after 3.2-RELEASE o [2001/02/02] docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) o [2001/04/02] docs/26286 doc *printf(3) etc should gain format string s [2001/06/03] docs/27843 doc [PATCH] make.conf WITH_* variables aren't o [2001/07/26] docs/29245 doc top(1) manpage doesn't understand SMP a [2001/08/23] docs/30008 doc This document should be translated, comme p [2001/09/27] docs/30873 doc ``ip'' man page does not specify byte ord o [2001/10/07] docs/31109 doc replace gif images w/ png ones due to pat o [2002/01/05] docs/33589 doc Patch to doc.docbook.mk to post process . o [2002/01/09] docs/33724 doc [patch] a very minor documentation error o [2002/01/14] docs/33852 doc split(1) man page implies that input file o [2002/01/14] docs/33877 doc Documentet behaviour of SF_flags for non- a [2002/02/16] docs/35011 doc There are no commands called "diskless" o o [2002/02/22] docs/35222 doc mailing list archive URL regexp suboptima o [2002/03/06] docs/35608 doc mt(1) page uses "setmark" without explana o [2002/03/06] docs/35609 doc mt(1) page needs explanation of "long era o [2002/03/06] docs/35612 doc ps(1) page "state" description doesn't me o [2002/03/07] docs/35642 doc lo(4) page maybe should document optional o [2002/03/07] docs/35644 doc lo(4) page presumes familiarity with prin o [2002/03/07] docs/35646 doc cp(1) page needs a "Bugs" section. o [2002/03/07] docs/35648 doc rc.conf; add note about "flags" to both f o [2002/03/08] docs/35686 doc blackhole(4) page seems to contradict its o [2002/03/08] docs/35687 doc /etc/nsmb.conf missing mention of readers o [2002/03/10] docs/35732 doc adduser(8) page has obsolete reference an o [2002/03/16] docs/35943 doc at(1) config files are misplaced in /var/ o [2002/03/16] docs/35953 doc hosts.equiv(5) manual is confusing or wro o [2002/03/28] docs/36432 doc Proposal for doc/share/mk: make folded bo o [2002/03/29] docs/36449 doc symlink(7) manual doesn't mention trailin s [2002/05/07] docs/37843 doc manual for pthread_setschedparam is wrong o [2002/05/18] docs/38225 doc change "CDROM" to "CD-ROM" o [2002/05/25] docs/38556 doc EPS file of beastie, as addition to exist o [2002/05/27] docs/38620 doc Committers Guide and CVS o [2002/05/31] docs/38772 doc firewall_type feature not mentioned on Ha o [2002/06/07] docs/38982 doc developers-hanbook/Jail fix p [2002/06/08] docs/39044 doc The man page for rot13(6) never mentions o [2002/06/13] docs/39213 doc No rc(4) man page o [2002/06/15] docs/39348 doc kenv fetch of hostname requires dhcp/boot o [2002/06/19] docs/39530 doc access(2) man page has unnecessarily broa o [2002/06/25] docs/39824 doc Various tweaks for doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/bo o [2002/07/10] docs/40423 doc Keyboard(4)'s definition of parameters to o [2002/07/11] docs/40443 doc Update books/faq/book.sgml for USB .ko's o [2002/07/21] docs/40851 doc [PATCH] "mergemaster -p" in UPDATING's "C o [2002/07/28] docs/41089 doc pax -B option does not mention interactio o [2002/08/02] docs/41270 doc confusing directions for kernelconfig cha o [2002/08/19] docs/41791 doc Documentation formatting error o [2002/08/20] docs/41807 doc natd -punch_fw "bug" o [2002/08/20] docs/41820 doc Device driver confusion in Handbook (2.3) a [2002/08/27] docs/42058 doc Documentation: Installing Oracle 8i onto o [2002/09/20] docs/42977 doc request: document the fact that the FreeB o [2002/10/04] docs/43651 doc stab(5) incorrectly states to include jus o [2002/10/09] docs/43861 doc non-trivial typo in wicontrol man page o [2002/10/11] docs/43941 doc Rationale for Upgrade Sequence o [2002/10/15] docs/44074 doc ln(1) manual clarifications [patch] o [2002/10/23] docs/44400 doc ipfw(8) has contradictions in bridged and o [2002/10/24] docs/44435 doc sysctl manpage: add example for tcsh o [2002/10/29] docs/44594 doc Handbook doesn't mention drivers.flp for o [2002/12/02] docs/45940 doc burncd missing info o [2002/12/11] docs/46196 doc Missing return value in (set_)menu_format o [2002/12/16] docs/46291 doc correlation between HZ kernel config para o [2002/12/16] docs/46295 doc please add information to Nvi recovery em o [2003/01/06] docs/46793 doc DEVICE_POLLING can not be used with SMP, o [2003/01/28] docs/47575 doc Clarify requirements for IPFW2 in STABLE o [2003/01/28] docs/47594 doc [PATH] passwd(5) incorrectly states allow o [2003/01/30] docs/47690 doc builtin(1) manpage is wrong about externa o [2003/01/31] docs/47705 doc wc(1) manpage has poor explanations. f [2003/02/02] docs/47818 doc ln(1) manpage is confusing f [2003/02/07] docs/48038 doc [PATCH] add Tips and Tricks section into o [2003/02/28] docs/48767 doc wrong key numbers for left/right windows o [2003/03/06] docs/48980 doc [PATCH] nsgmls -s errors and sect. 3.2.1 o [2003/03/23] docs/50211 doc [PATCH] Fix textfile creation o [2003/04/03] docs/50573 doc return values for res_query/res_search/re o [2003/04/07] docs/50677 doc [PATCH] update doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/ o [2003/04/10] docs/50773 doc NFS problems by jumbo frames to mention i o [2003/05/06] docs/51875 doc atkbd(4) adjustment o [2003/05/06] docs/51891 doc DIAGNOSTICS in ed driver manpage don't ma o [2003/05/07] docs/51921 doc ls(1) manpage lacks some information abou o [2003/05/11] docs/52071 doc [PATCH] Add more information about soft u o [2003/05/25] docs/52672 doc Porter's Handbook: couple of corrections o [2003/06/13] docs/53303 doc mount(2) man page error o [2003/06/21] docs/53575 doc Change to Handbook Section 20.9 o [2003/06/21] docs/53596 doc Updates to mt manual page o [2003/06/25] docs/53732 doc quota output and man page do not document o [2003/07/13] docs/54451 doc [patch] i386_{get|set}_ldt manual page is o [2003/07/26] docs/54879 doc man 1 jot, -r description o [2003/08/12] docs/55482 doc DUMP has access to block devices in a JAI o [2003/08/17] docs/55653 doc chflags.1 - note that not all tools chfla o [2003/09/24] docs/57153 doc S_IRWXU missing in fstat(2) man page? o [2003/09/30] docs/57388 doc INSTALL.TXT enhancement: mention ok promp o [2003/10/04] docs/57569 doc error on gensetdefs(8) man page o [2003/10/13] docs/57926 doc amd.conf.5 poorly format as it has both m o [2003/10/13] docs/57974 doc man page apropos for select macros (FD_SE o [2003/10/13] docs/57978 doc Type miss of GPIB in Hardware Notes o [2003/10/16] docs/58111 doc Handbook 12.4.3 Rebuilding ATA RAID1 Arra o [2003/10/28] docs/58615 doc update for Vinum chapter of Handbook: des o [2003/10/30] docs/58710 doc killpg(2) contains an error regarding sen o [2003/11/07] docs/59044 doc doc.docbook.mk does not properly handle a o [2003/11/19] docs/59477 doc Outdated Info Documents at http://docs.fr o [2003/11/21] docs/59565 doc [PATCH] FAQ doesn't cover definition of g o [2003/11/24] docs/59649 doc Outdated 4.4BSD Documents at http://docs. o [2003/11/30] docs/59835 doc ipfw(8) man page does not warn about acce o [2003/12/23] docs/60529 doc resolver(5) man page is badly out of date o [2003/12/24] docs/60544 doc getenv(3) manpage doesn't state the retur o [2004/01/08] docs/61070 doc Installation docs misleading: PResizer i o [2004/01/13] docs/61301 doc [patch] Manpage patch for aue(4) to enabl o [2004/01/21] docs/61667 doc Obsolete documentation on FreeBSD PnP o [2004/01/25] docs/61859 doc Incorrect informaiton about trace command o [2004/01/25] docs/61878 doc LSI megaraid 150-x cards not included in o [2004/02/04] docs/62364 doc Misleading information in the handbook o [2004/02/05] docs/62402 doc easily circumventable Blade150 problem o [2004/02/06] docs/62412 doc one of the diskless boot methods describe o [2004/02/12] docs/62719 doc cross-reference pccardd and devd o [2004/02/12] docs/62724 doc host(1) manpage does not include informat o [2004/02/16] docs/62914 doc Reference development(7) in other parts o o [2004/02/22] docs/63215 doc Wrong prototypes in mi_switch(9) (ref doc o [2004/03/03] docs/63676 doc [patch] Fix some tag errors. o [2004/03/03] docs/63719 doc lptcontrol(8) manpage omits -s from a lis o [2004/03/05] docs/63808 doc No manpage for devfs.conf o [2004/03/27] docs/64807 doc Handbook section on NAT incomplete o [2004/04/02] docs/65065 doc improper language ntpd man pages o [2004/04/13] docs/65477 doc Installation Instruction fail to mention o [2004/04/14] docs/65530 doc minor improvement to getgrent.3 o [2004/04/22] docs/65895 doc incorrect "omshell" link in "dhclient" ma o [2004/04/26] docs/65988 doc incorrect references to ppp.conf in handb o [2004/04/29] docs/66091 doc ppp(8) docs out-of-date for -CURRENT o [2004/05/04] docs/66264 doc [patch] libexec/rtld/rtld.1 typo fixes no o [2004/05/04] docs/66265 doc [patch] Document what -f and LD_TRACE_LOA o [2004/05/05] docs/66296 doc [patch] contrib/amd/amq/amq.8 uses log_op o [2004/05/07] docs/66343 doc unlisted supported card on man page for w o [2004/05/09] docs/66426 doc handbook update (desktop section): web br o [2004/05/10] docs/66483 doc [patch] share/man/man4/csa.4 grammar nits o [2004/05/17] docs/66768 doc 4_RELENG share/man/man4/ng_one2many.4 MFC o [2004/05/17] docs/66770 doc [patch] share/man/man4/ng_pppoe.4 tyops, o [2004/05/23] docs/67078 doc [patch] MFC of a rtld(1) man page is inco f [2004/06/10] docs/67806 doc Let 5.x users know how to boot into singl o [2004/06/13] docs/67893 doc boot.8's -m description is insufficient. o [2004/06/28] docs/68453 doc [patch] rc.subr.8 o [2004/07/02] docs/68606 doc Porter's Handbook: document how to write o [2004/07/09] docs/68843 doc Dates on rc.subr(8) & rc(8) are whack. o [2004/07/09] docs/68845 doc The .At macro produces unexpected results o [2004/07/19] docs/69271 doc Porter's Handbook: hint on proper pkg-mes o [2004/07/21] docs/69383 doc disklabel = bsdlabel in 5.X or later o [2004/08/03] docs/69968 doc minor clarification in mac glossary o [2004/08/09] docs/70217 doc Suggested rewrite of docproj/sgml.sgml o [2004/08/11] docs/70310 doc [PATCH] Add information about DragonFly o [2004/08/16] docs/70506 doc re_format(7) contains many extra '=' o [2004/08/19] docs/70652 doc New man page: portindex(5) o [2004/08/23] docs/70856 doc List of flags and their aliases in `man 1 o [2004/08/24] docs/70916 doc msync.2 manpage update o [2004/08/25] docs/70943 doc remove -k from gdb.1 manual o [2004/09/10] docs/71555 doc how to run matlab on 5.2 o [2004/09/10] docs/71566 doc [PATCH] FAQ update: Mention that doscmd i 151 problems total. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 13:18:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D100316A4CE; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:18:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3EB843D48; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:18:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (dd@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i8DDIdLw069420; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:18:39 GMT (envelope-from dd@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8DDIdJp069416; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:18:39 GMT (envelope-from dd) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:18:39 GMT From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <200409131318.i8DDIdJp069416@freefall.freebsd.org> To: question+freebsdpr@closedsrc.org, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/71600: ti(4) - dud URL for Alteon documentation X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:18:40 -0000 Synopsis: ti(4) - dud URL for Alteon documentation State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Mon Sep 13 13:18:31 GMT 2004 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=71600 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 13:45:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 397DA16A4CE for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:45:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailrelay2.megawebservers.com (mailrelay2-3.megawebservers.com [216.251.32.113]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D771E43D41 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:45:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from info@umbrella.name) Received: from web174.megawebservers.com (web174.megawebservers.com [216.251.35.174])i8DDj4js016706 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:45:04 -0400 Received: from web174.megawebservers.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) ESMTP id i8DDj4nc002787 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:45:04 -0400 Received: (from webmail.hostlane.com@localhost)i8DDj4VO002786; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:45:04 -0400 Message-Id: <200409131345.i8DDj4VO002786@web174.megawebservers.com> X-Authentication-Warning: web174.megawebservers.com: webmail.hostlane.com set sender to info@umbrella.name using -f To: Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:45:04 -0000 From: X-Mailer: TWIG 2.7.5 Subject: Offer New Stuff for FreeBSD Documentation Engineering Team X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:45:05 -0000 We have invented a new tool for people to read online documentations easier than ever before - readers can highlight text on web pages. Of course, it works on FREEBSD/REDHAT LINUX/WINDOWS's default web browser and does not require installing any plugin - zero security risk: http://editive.com Can you put a link like "Make Notes on This Page" on every huge page? After completing this great tool, we began to seek for partners and soon realized the best partners are websites of the open-source community - because these websites do want to improve readers' experience and are glad to try new things(after testing, of course). At last - even though you might have heard this for N times - thank you for FREEBSD. editive is running on FREEBSD. Sincerely, FREEBSD is the most secure system, because Guninski considered a FREEBSD bug as the best bug in his career - man, this guy is the biggest star in the security field who have found about 50 remote compromise in Internet Explorer. well, i'm also an IE hacker, and I'll try to hack FREEBSD after hitting my 50th ie remote compromise. :-) Best Wishes, From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 13:51:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62FBD16A4CE; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:51:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02F6E43D2F; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:51:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roam@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (roam@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i8DDpitj070574; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:51:44 GMT (envelope-from roam@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from roam@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8DDpi9v070570; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:51:44 GMT (envelope-from roam) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:51:44 GMT From: Peter Pentchev Message-Id: <200409131351.i8DDpi9v070570@freefall.freebsd.org> To: j_guojun@lbl.gov, roam@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/14135: lpt1 nolonger exists after 3.2-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:51:45 -0000 Synopsis: lpt1 nolonger exists after 3.2-RELEASE State-Changed-From-To: suspended->closed State-Changed-By: roam State-Changed-When: Mon Sep 13 13:49:19 GMT 2004 State-Changed-Why: I think the hints example at the top of the ppc(4) manual page and the Handbook's Section 12.5, "Device Hints", do a pretty good job of describing the current situation now, so this PR ought to be closed. Thanks for bringing it up in the first place! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=14135 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 16:09:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD6E16A4CE for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:09:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av11-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (av11-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BBDA43D31 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:09:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joel@automatvapen.se) Received: by av11-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id C8A89382A5; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 18:09:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.92]) by av11-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74273814D; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 18:09:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [213.66.34.1] (t11o955p1.telia.com [213.66.34.1]) by smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8976237E44; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 18:09:22 +0200 (CEST) From: Joel Dahl To: Peter Pentchev In-Reply-To: <200409131020.i8DAKNO1045732@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <200409131020.i8DAKNO1045732@freefall.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1095086809.523.4.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 18:09:37 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/71566: [PATCH] FAQ update: Mention that doscmd is gone X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:09:28 -0000 Hmm, yes, the patch looks better with your adjustment. Thanks! Joel From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 16:19:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0962B16A4CE; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:19:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE63F43D5F; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:19:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roam@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (roam@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i8DGJIGK090685; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:19:18 GMT (envelope-from roam@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from roam@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8DGJIEY090681; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:19:18 GMT (envelope-from roam) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:19:18 GMT From: Peter Pentchev Message-Id: <200409131619.i8DGJIEY090681@freefall.freebsd.org> To: joel@automatvapen.se, roam@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/71566: [PATCH] FAQ update: Mention that doscmd is gone X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:19:19 -0000 Synopsis: [PATCH] FAQ update: Mention that doscmd is gone State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: roam State-Changed-When: Mon Sep 13 16:19:09 GMT 2004 State-Changed-Why: Update committed, thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=71566 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 20:20:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A9C316A4CE for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:20:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1672043D62 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:20:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id i8DKL7rh006232 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:21:07 -0700 Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0/Submit) id i8DKL78K006231 for doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:21:07 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:21:07 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040913202107.GA5175@odin.ac.hmc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+QahgC5+KEYLbs62" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=8.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on odin.ac.hmc.edu Subject: review request: 2TB disk limit in disks chapter X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:20:25 -0000 --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable People are starting to build disk arrays larger then 2TB and then finding they can't label them. I'd like to add some text like the following to the handbook section on adding disks. A table of capabilities would probably be useful and could be an intresting project for someone who wanted to do a little research, but I'm specificaly trying to address bsdlabel at this point. Please review my changes below. Thanks, Brooks Index: chapter.sgml =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/dcvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/disks/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.220 diff -u -p -r1.220 chapter.sgml --- chapter.sgml 25 Aug 2004 10:33:59 -0000 1.220 +++ chapter.sgml 13 Sep 2004 20:14:19 -0000 @@ -202,6 +202,12 @@ case, the drive will be added simply as /dev/da1e. =20 + Due to the use of 32-bit integers to store the number of sectors= ,=20 + &man.bsdlabel.8, &man.disklabel.8, &man.fdisk.8, and + sunlabel are all limited to 2^32-1 + sectors. This usually translates to a 2TB limit on disk size. + For larger disks, &man.gpt.8 partitions may be used. + Using &man.sysinstall.8; --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBRgEzXY6L6fI4GtQRAs9fAKCM5Cbd9WUu6PZkDjLhKQlL96gHoACfa7Vm 9Awtbaq2EmLxR85dQwmbCv0= =vv/r -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 20:50:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECAFB16A4CE for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:50:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zaphod.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C9E643D2F for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:50:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@zaphod.nitro.dk) Received: by zaphod.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 3000) id 9882011AB1; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:49:58 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:49:58 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Brooks Davis Message-ID: <20040913204958.GE766@zaphod.nitro.dk> References: <20040913202107.GA5175@odin.ac.hmc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="eqp4TxRxnD4KrmFZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040913202107.GA5175@odin.ac.hmc.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: review request: 2TB disk limit in disks chapter X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:50:03 -0000 --eqp4TxRxnD4KrmFZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2004.09.13 13:21:07 -0700, Brooks Davis wrote: > People are starting to build disk arrays larger then 2TB and then > finding they can't label them. I'd like to add some text like the > following to the handbook section on adding disks. A table of Great, documenting this is very useful! > capabilities would probably be useful and could be an intresting project > for someone who wanted to do a little research, but I'm specificaly > trying to address bsdlabel at this point. >=20 > Please review my changes below. All the entities should be closed, e.g. "&man.bsdlabel.8" should be "&man.bsdlabel.8;". > Index: chapter.sgml > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > RCS file: /home/dcvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/disks/chapter.sgm= l,v > retrieving revision 1.220 > diff -u -p -r1.220 chapter.sgml > --- chapter.sgml 25 Aug 2004 10:33:59 -0000 1.220 > +++ chapter.sgml 13 Sep 2004 20:14:19 -0000 > @@ -202,6 +202,12 @@ > case, the drive will be added simply as > /dev/da1e. > =20 > + Due to the use of 32-bit integers to store the number of secto= rs,=20 I think there is trailing whitespace on this line (unless it's just my MUA/editor). > + &man.bsdlabel.8, &man.disklabel.8, &man.fdisk.8, and Isn't disklabel just a link to the local label (bsdlabel/sunlabel etc.) now? > + sunlabel are all limited to 2^32-1 You should also use a manual page entity for sunlabel. > + sectors. This usually translates to a 2TB limit on disk size. > + For larger disks, &man.gpt.8 partitions may be used. Shouldn't that be "2TB limits on partition size.", since you can AFAIR? make multiple <2TB partitions on one "disk"(/RAID)? --=20 Simon L. Nielsen FreeBSD Documentation Team --eqp4TxRxnD4KrmFZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBRgf2h9pcDSc1mlERAkMeAJ0dEIWhg/ThxqniH9hhynLTPdWquQCfeeC2 r3eF14AWqkBCPBMGY1BBaAA= =R8zc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --eqp4TxRxnD4KrmFZ-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 21:13:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BA3116A4CE; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 21:13:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDACC43D45; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 21:13:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id i8DLDkMD015011; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 14:13:47 -0700 Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0/Submit) id i8DLDkpU015010; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 14:13:46 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 14:13:46 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: "Simon L. Nielsen" Message-ID: <20040913211346.GB11005@odin.ac.hmc.edu> References: <20040913202107.GA5175@odin.ac.hmc.edu> <20040913204958.GE766@zaphod.nitro.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0ntfKIWw70PvrIHh" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040913204958.GE766@zaphod.nitro.dk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=8.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on odin.ac.hmc.edu cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: review request: 2TB disk limit in disks chapter X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 21:13:04 -0000 --0ntfKIWw70PvrIHh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 10:49:58PM +0200, Simon L. Nielsen wrote: > On 2004.09.13 13:21:07 -0700, Brooks Davis wrote: > > People are starting to build disk arrays larger then 2TB and then > > finding they can't label them. I'd like to add some text like the > > following to the handbook section on adding disks. A table of >=20 > Great, documenting this is very useful! >=20 > > capabilities would probably be useful and could be an intresting project > > for someone who wanted to do a little research, but I'm specificaly > > trying to address bsdlabel at this point. > >=20 > > Please review my changes below. >=20 > All the entities should be closed, e.g. "&man.bsdlabel.8" should be > "&man.bsdlabel.8;". Doh. > > Index: chapter.sgml > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > RCS file: /home/dcvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/disks/chapter.s= gml,v > > retrieving revision 1.220 > > diff -u -p -r1.220 chapter.sgml > > --- chapter.sgml 25 Aug 2004 10:33:59 -0000 1.220 > > +++ chapter.sgml 13 Sep 2004 20:14:19 -0000 > > @@ -202,6 +202,12 @@ > > case, the drive will be added simply as > > /dev/da1e. > > =20 > > + Due to the use of 32-bit integers to store the number of sec= tors,=20 >=20 > I think there is trailing whitespace on this line (unless it's just my > MUA/editor). Yah, I've fixed that here. > > + &man.bsdlabel.8, &man.disklabel.8, &man.fdisk.8, and >=20 > Isn't disklabel just a link to the local label (bsdlabel/sunlabel > etc.) now? The rest of the file seems to list both of them and the limitation applies to 4.x where there is only disklabel. I don't have a strong oppinion on this one. > > + sunlabel are all limited to 2^32-1 >=20 > You should also use a manual page entity for sunlabel. Fixed. > > + sectors. This usually translates to a 2TB limit on disk size. > > + For larger disks, &man.gpt.8 partitions may be used. >=20 > Shouldn't that be "2TB limits on partition size.", since you can AFAIR? > make multiple <2TB partitions on one "disk"(/RAID)? It's more complicated then that, which means I need to revise this documentation. In bsdlabel, the size of the disk in sectors is also recorded capping the format at 2TB. In fdisk, the format appears to limit the partition size to 2TB and the offset to 2TB so around 4TB. This doesn't work at the moment because fdisk doesn't correctly use 64-bit types internally. sunlabel appears to allow up to 16TB disks with 2TB partitions. Here's a new version. -- Brooks Index: chapter.sgml =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/dcvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/disks/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.220 diff -u -p -r1.220 chapter.sgml --- chapter.sgml 25 Aug 2004 10:33:59 -0000 1.220 +++ chapter.sgml 13 Sep 2004 21:12:20 -0000 @@ -202,6 +202,15 @@ case, the drive will be added simply as /dev/da1e. =20 + Due to the use of 32-bit integers to store the number of sectors + &man.bsdlabel.8; is limited to 2^32-1 sectors per disk or 2TB + in most cases. The &man.fdisk.8; format is allows a starting + sector of no more than 2^32-1 and a length of no more than 2^32-1, + limiting partitions to 2TB and disks to 4TB in most cases. The + &man.sunlabel.8; format is limited to 2^32-1 sectors per parition + and 8 partitions for a total of 16TB. larger disks, &man.gpt.8 + partitions may be used. + Using &man.sysinstall.8; --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --0ntfKIWw70PvrIHh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBRg2KXY6L6fI4GtQRAqZrAKCKSDLNzerzguVjMVocHfYp/uOL7ACdH89v lp5SG03crCtIUkM5cPPbKV4= =FwXN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0ntfKIWw70PvrIHh-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 22:07:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143DF16A4CE for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:07:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zaphod.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B56343D48 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:07:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@zaphod.nitro.dk) Received: by zaphod.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 3000) id 976E011AB1; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 00:07:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 00:07:21 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Brooks Davis Message-ID: <20040913220721.GF766@zaphod.nitro.dk> References: <20040913202107.GA5175@odin.ac.hmc.edu> <20040913204958.GE766@zaphod.nitro.dk> <20040913211346.GB11005@odin.ac.hmc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="N1GIdlSm9i+YlY4t" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040913211346.GB11005@odin.ac.hmc.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: review request: 2TB disk limit in disks chapter X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:07:24 -0000 --N1GIdlSm9i+YlY4t Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2004.09.13 14:13:46 -0700, Brooks Davis wrote: > On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 10:49:58PM +0200, Simon L. Nielsen wrote: > > On 2004.09.13 13:21:07 -0700, Brooks Davis wrote: > > > > > + &man.bsdlabel.8, &man.disklabel.8, &man.fdisk.8, and > >=20 > > Isn't disklabel just a link to the local label (bsdlabel/sunlabel > > etc.) now? >=20 > The rest of the file seems to list both of them and the limitation > applies to 4.x where there is only disklabel. I don't have a strong > oppinion on this one. Yes, it seems some parts there should be revised wrt. to making bsdlabel the default (and perhaps to document the sunlabel etc. also) but thats for another time... I think there should just be a short note that it's called disklabel in 4.X - I added a suggestion below. > > > + sectors. This usually translates to a 2TB limit on disk size. > > > + For larger disks, &man.gpt.8 partitions may be used. > >=20 > > Shouldn't that be "2TB limits on partition size.", since you can AFAIR? > > make multiple <2TB partitions on one "disk"(/RAID)? >=20 > It's more complicated then that, which means I need to revise this > documentation. In bsdlabel, the size of the disk in sectors is also > recorded capping the format at 2TB. In fdisk, the format appears to > limit the partition size to 2TB and the offset to 2TB so around 4TB. > This doesn't work at the moment because fdisk doesn't correctly use > 64-bit types internally. sunlabel appears to allow up to 16TB disks with > 2TB partitions. Ok, fun fun :-/. > Index: chapter.sgml > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > RCS file: /home/dcvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/disks/chapter.sgm= l,v > retrieving revision 1.220 > diff -u -p -r1.220 chapter.sgml > --- chapter.sgml 25 Aug 2004 10:33:59 -0000 1.220 > +++ chapter.sgml 13 Sep 2004 21:12:20 -0000 > @@ -202,6 +202,15 @@ > case, the drive will be added simply as > /dev/da1e. > =20 > + Due to the use of 32-bit integers to store the number of secto= rs > + &man.bsdlabel.8; is limited to 2^32-1 sectors per disk or 2TB Perhaps "&man.bsdlabel.8; (called &man.disklabel.8; in &os; 4.X) is..." > + in most cases. The &man.fdisk.8; format is allows a starting ^^ that should probably b= e removed. > + sector of no more than 2^32-1 and a length of no more than 2^32-1, > + limiting partitions to 2TB and disks to 4TB in most cases. The > + &man.sunlabel.8; format is limited to 2^32-1 sectors per parition s/parition/partition/ > + and 8 partitions for a total of 16TB. larger disks, &man.gpt.8 s/. larger/. For larger/ and a missing ; in the entity. > + partitions may be used. > + OK, I think I'm done playing doc pendant today ;). --=20 Simon L. Nielsen FreeBSD Documentation Team --N1GIdlSm9i+YlY4t Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBRhoZh9pcDSc1mlERArUoAJwMzpDI5RVAOuYbcMFOjOjmJ7G5vwCeMPtF L2p1kZdNLoOAdW2pBw6cqCI= =t8RE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --N1GIdlSm9i+YlY4t-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 22:40:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05AE116A4D2 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:40:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80CB643D76 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:40:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8DMeTJl031054 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:40:29 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8DMeT3c031053; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:40:29 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:40:29 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200409132240.i8DMeT3c031053@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Gavin Atkinson Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8790016A4CE for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:32:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-gw0.york.ac.uk (mail-gw0.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.245]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52EE43D4C for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:32:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ga9@buffy.york.ac.uk) Received: from buffy.york.ac.uk (buffy.york.ac.uk [144.32.226.160]) by mail-gw0.york.ac.uk (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8DMVwlo006115 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 23:31:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from buffy.york.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by buffy.york.ac.uk (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8DMVvWd062149 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 23:31:57 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ga9@buffy.york.ac.uk) Received: (from ga9@localhost) by buffy.york.ac.uk (8.13.1/8.12.11/Submit) id i8DMVvgB062148; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 23:31:57 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ga9) Message-Id: <200409132231.i8DMVvgB062148@buffy.york.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 23:31:57 +0100 (BST) From: Gavin Atkinson To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/71712: Updates to the explaining-bsd article X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gavin Atkinson List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:40:40 -0000 >Number: 71712 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Updates to the explaining-bsd article >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Sep 13 22:40:29 GMT 2004 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gavin Atkinson >Release: FreeBSD 5.3-BETA2 i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD buffy.york.ac.uk 5.3-BETA2 FreeBSD 5.3-BETA2 #9: Mon Sep 6 15:59:27 BST 2004 root@buffy.york.ac.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 >Description: Various updates to the explaining-bsd article to fix URLs, bring it up-to-date with current situation, and reword a couple of sentances. Second patch contains white-space only changes. The patches don't conflict and can be applied successfully in either order, although applying the whitespace patch first is probably best to not affect the hunk offsets. >How-To-Repeat: N/A >Fix: (Patches also at http://www.devrandom.co.uk/freebsd/explbsdws.diff for the whitespace changes, and http://www.devrandom.co.uk/freebsd/explbsd.diff for the content changes) Index: article.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/cvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/explaining-bsd/article.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.14 diff -u -r1.14 article.sgml --- article.sgml 31 Aug 2004 06:51:40 -0000 1.14 +++ article.sgml 13 Sep 2004 22:04:05 -0000 @@ -34,7 +34,7 @@ synonymous with Operating System, but it is not the only open source &unix; operating system. According to the Internet + url="http://www.leb.net/hzo/ioscount/data/r.9904.txt">Internet Operating System Counter, as of April 1999 31.3% of the world's network connected machines run Linux. 14.6% run BSD &unix;. Some of the world's largest web operations, such as The C library, the base API for the system. - + The BSD C library is based on code from Berkeley, not the GNU project. - + Utilities such as shells, file utilities, compilers and linkers. - + Some of the utilities are derived from the GNU project, others are not. @@ -177,9 +177,9 @@ Why is BSD not better known? - + For a number of reasons, BSD is relatively unknown: - + The BSD developers are often more interested in polishing their @@ -459,11 +459,11 @@ - + How does the BSD license differ from the GNU Public license? - + Linux is available under the GNU General Public License (GPL), which is designed to eliminate closed @@ -500,17 +500,17 @@ What does this all mean in practice? Who should use BSD, who should use Linux? - + This is a very difficult question to answer. Here are some guidelines: - + If it ain't broke, don't fix it: If you already use an open source operating system, and you are happy with it, there is probably no good reason to change. - + BSD systems, in particular FreeBSD, can have notably higher performance than Linux. But this is not across the board. In many @@ -540,7 +540,7 @@ Who provides support, service, and training for BSD? - + BSDi have always supported BSD/OS, and they have recently announced support contracts for FreeBSD. Index: article.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/cvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/explaining-bsd/article.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.14 diff -u -r1.14 article.sgml --- article.sgml 31 Aug 2004 06:51:40 -0000 1.14 +++ article.sgml 13 Sep 2004 22:18:23 -0000 @@ -21,6 +21,7 @@ &tm-attrib.freebsd; + &tm-attrib.amd; &tm-attrib.apple; &tm-attrib.linux; &tm-attrib.opengroup; @@ -39,8 +40,8 @@ world's network connected machines run Linux. 14.6% run BSD &unix;. Some of the world's largest web operations, such as Yahoo!, run BSD. The world's - busiest FTP server, ftp.cdrom.com, uses BSD to + busiest FTP server of 1999 (now defunct), ftp.cdrom.com, used BSD to transfer 1.4 TB of data a day. Clearly this is not a niche market: BSD is a well-kept secret. @@ -93,8 +94,9 @@ The X Window system, which handles graphical display. The X Window system used in most versions of BSD is maintained - by a separate project, the - &xfree86; project. + by one of two separate projects, either the + &xfree86; project or the + X.Org project. This is the same code as Linux uses. BSD does not normally specify a graphical desktop such as GNOME or KDE, though these are available. @@ -246,7 +248,8 @@ No one person or corporation owns BSD. It is created and distributed by a community of highly technical and committed contributors all over the world. Some of the components of BSD are - Open Source projects managed by a different project maintainer. + Open Source projects in their own right and managed by different + project maintainers. @@ -255,7 +258,7 @@ The BSD kernels are developed and updated following the Open Source development model. Each project maintains a publicly accessible source tree under the - Concurrent Versions + Concurrent Versions System (CVS), which contains all source files for the project, including documentation and other incidental files. CVS allows users to check out (in other words, to @@ -312,7 +315,7 @@ No one person controls the content of the system. In - practice, this difference is overrated, since the Chief Architect + practice, this difference is overrated, since the Principal Architect can require that code be backed out, and even in the Linux project several people are permitted to make changes. @@ -411,7 +414,10 @@ FreeBSD aims for high performance and ease of use by end users, and is a favourite of web content providers. It runs - on PCs and Compaq's Alpha processors. The FreeBSD project has + on a number of platforms, including i386 based systems (PCs), + systems based on the AMD 64-bit processors, &ultrasparc; based systems, + systems based on Compaq's Alpha processors and systems based around + the NEC PC-98 specification. The FreeBSD project has significantly more users than the other projects. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 22:48:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35AF916A4CE; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:48:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F2E843D1F; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:48:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ceri@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (ceri@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i8DMm7Vg031227; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:48:07 GMT (envelope-from ceri@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from ceri@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8DMm7ww031223; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:48:07 GMT (envelope-from ceri) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:48:07 GMT From: Ceri Davies Message-Id: <200409132248.i8DMm7ww031223@freefall.freebsd.org> To: gavin.atkinson@ury.york.ac.uk, ceri@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, ceri@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/71712: Updates to the explaining-bsd article X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:48:08 -0000 Synopsis: Updates to the explaining-bsd article State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: ceri State-Changed-When: Mon Sep 13 22:47:05 GMT 2004 State-Changed-Why: >From a quick scan, these can very likely be committed as they are. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->ceri Responsible-Changed-By: ceri Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Sep 13 22:47:05 GMT 2004 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll shepherd these changes into CVS. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=71712 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 03:42:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 142F316A52C for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 03:42:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cybox.com (www.cybox.com [206.168.112.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C6743D75 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 03:42:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brian@cybox.com) Received: from [199.45.247.12] (vc4-2-0-127c.dsl.netrack.net [199.45.247.12]) by cybox.com (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8E3gjGW004169; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 21:42:45 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <2071E0FA-0600-11D9-9FC5-000A95908F0E@cybox.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Brian Herman Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 21:42:39 -0600 To: doc@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: Eric Robison Subject: Problem with IPSEC in handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 03:42:51 -0000 I have found a bug in the IPSEC section of the freebsd handbook: In the document: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ipsec.html Section 14.11.2 The Problem - states: There's no standard for what constitutes a VPN. VPNs can be implemented using a number of different technologies, each of which have their own strengths and weaknesses. This article presents a number of scenarios, and strategies for implementing a VPN for each scenario. Then begins: 14.11.3 Scenario #1: Two networks, connected to the Internet, to behave as one However, this html page ends without ever going into any other scenarios. 14.11.2 implies there should be at least 11.3, 11.4, and perhaps more. The links at the bottom of this page go forward to 14.12 - Open SSH and backward to 14.10 - OpenSSL So I can't tell if the IPSEC document 14.11 is incomplete, or if it simply has improper links in it. Thanks for taking a look at this. - Brian ---------- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 09:32:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2723016A4D0 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 09:32:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gandalf.online.bg (gandalf.online.bg [217.75.128.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5AA7543D5E for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 09:32:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roam@ringlet.net) Received: (qmail 32072 invoked from network); 14 Sep 2004 09:30:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO straylight.m.ringlet.net) (217.75.134.254) by gandalf.online.bg with SMTP; 14 Sep 2004 09:30:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 30709 invoked by uid 1000); 14 Sep 2004 09:33:03 -0000 Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 12:33:03 +0300 From: Peter Pentchev To: "Simon L. Nielsen" Message-ID: <20040914093303.GD1140@straylight.m.ringlet.net> Mail-Followup-To: "Simon L. Nielsen" , doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20040913202107.GA5175@odin.ac.hmc.edu> <20040913204958.GE766@zaphod.nitro.dk> <20040913211346.GB11005@odin.ac.hmc.edu> <20040913220721.GF766@zaphod.nitro.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="J5MfuwkIyy7RmF4Q" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040913220721.GF766@zaphod.nitro.dk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: review request: 2TB disk limit in disks chapter X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 09:32:35 -0000 --J5MfuwkIyy7RmF4Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 12:07:21AM +0200, Simon L. Nielsen wrote: > On 2004.09.13 14:13:46 -0700, Brooks Davis wrote: [snip] > > + partitions may be used. > > + >=20 > OK, I think I'm done playing doc pendant today ;). ^^^^^^^ I sure hope you are; watching you hanging up there on the chandelier was starting to give me a massive headache! :P G'luck, Peter --=20 Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@cnsys.bg roam@FreeBSD.org PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 "yields falsehood, when appended to its quotation." yields falsehood, when = appended to its quotation. --J5MfuwkIyy7RmF4Q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBRrrO7Ri2jRYZRVMRArvpAJ9M7OZVuwW48LOe4qTWEIF+blhNdQCgpGIQ jejsEGyaQ3ktO4JXO1yMr6A= =QmfO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --J5MfuwkIyy7RmF4Q-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 15:50:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB2AE16A4D3 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 15:50:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4637E43D5A for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 15:50:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8EFoIgW066983 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 15:50:18 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8EFoI1H066982; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 15:50:18 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 15:50:18 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200409141550.i8EFoI1H066982@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Gavin Atkinson Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD88316A4CE for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 15:49:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-gw1.york.ac.uk (mail-gw1.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.246]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3060443D31 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 15:49:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ga9@buffy.york.ac.uk) Received: from buffy.york.ac.uk (buffy.york.ac.uk [144.32.226.160]) by mail-gw1.york.ac.uk (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8EFn0qR009885 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:49:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from buffy.york.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by buffy.york.ac.uk (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8EFn0IF067271 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:49:00 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ga9@buffy.york.ac.uk) Received: (from ga9@localhost) by buffy.york.ac.uk (8.13.1/8.12.11/Submit) id i8EFn01Z067270; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:49:00 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ga9) Message-Id: <200409141549.i8EFn01Z067270@buffy.york.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:49:00 +0100 (BST) From: Gavin Atkinson To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/71730: [patch] fsinfo(8) man page missing information X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gavin Atkinson List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 15:50:27 -0000 >Number: 71730 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [patch] fsinfo(8) man page missing information >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Sep 14 15:50:17 GMT 2004 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gavin Atkinson >Release: FreeBSD 5.3-BETA2 i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD buffy.york.ac.uk 5.3-BETA2 FreeBSD 5.3-BETA2 #9: Mon Sep 6 15:59:27 BST 2004 root@buffy.york.ac.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 >Description: The man page for fsinfo(8) misses a few important bits of information, because the mark-up for the crossreferences is wrong. As a result, the description contains: The fsinfo utility takes a set of system configuration information, and generates a coordinated set of , and mountd(8) configuration files. rather than The fsinfo utility takes a set of system configuration information, and generates a coordinated set of amd(8) , mount(8) and mountd(8) configura- tion files. >How-To-Repeat: man 8 fsinfo >Fix: The fix is to revert half of the changes made in revision 1.8 of the file. This file is in contrib, however it seems to have had other changes made to it since the import anyway, so I don't believe this matters. (Patch also available at http://www.devrandom.co.uk/freebsd/fsinfo.8.diff) Index: src/contrib/amd/fsinfo/fsinfo.8 =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/cvs/src/contrib/amd/fsinfo/fsinfo.8,v retrieving revision 1.10 diff -u -r1.10 fsinfo.8 --- src/contrib/amd/fsinfo/fsinfo.8 6 Jul 2004 13:16:46 -0000 1.10 +++ src/contrib/amd/fsinfo/fsinfo.8 14 Sep 2004 15:15:33 -0000 @@ -64,9 +64,9 @@ .Nm utility takes a set of system configuration information, and generates a coordinated set of -.I amd +.Xr amd 8 , -.I mount +.Xr mount 8 and .Xr mountd 8 configuration files. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 16:07:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA7CE16A4D6; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:07:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gronouski.mail.atl.earthlink.net (gronouski.mail.atl.earthlink.net [199.174.114.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B46043D39; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:07:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aaron@the-gibsons.org) Received: from node-d8e93855-dca-onnet.us.uu.net ([216.233.59.86] helo=aaron) by gronouski.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1C7Fpl-0004kd-00; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 09:07:09 -0700 From: "Aaron Gibson" To: "'Ceri Davies'" Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 12:07:06 -0400 Organization: The Gibsons Message-ID: <000e01c49a74$e37a6670$6501a8c0@aaron> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <20040912192751.GA1538@submonkey.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal X-ELNK-Trace: d7899d5d4e85587a99d3fcd8b549784b6e7758a42d7f30c924aa9e4e0939de763c5f589186c9070a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: RE: 2.12 Advanced Installation Guide (Headless Install) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: aaron@the-gibsons.org List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:07:11 -0000 Ceri- =20 I obtained the advice to set /boot/loader -h in the boot.config file = from the below URL: =20 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-advance= d.h tml =20 Note that after further investigation I found my problem to be a = incorrect setting in the BIOS. I was successful in creating a headless system (actually 2) with the initial command. If you would like I can send you a description of the exact process that = I had to go through on each box to get it to work. One system was the 5.1 release the other was the 4.10 release. =20 =20 Your response and help is greatly appreciated. =20 Thanks Aaron =20 -----Original Message----- From: Ceri Davies [mailto:setantae@submonkey.net] On Behalf Of Ceri = Davies Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 3:28 PM To: Aaron Gibson Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 2.12 Advanced Installation Guide (Headless Install) =20 =20 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 16:09:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87CED16A4CE; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:09:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68ABE43D2F; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:09:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ceri@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (ceri@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i8EG9F4S072397; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:09:15 GMT (envelope-from ceri@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from ceri@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8EG9F39072393; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:09:15 GMT (envelope-from ceri) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:09:15 GMT From: Ceri Davies Message-Id: <200409141609.i8EG9F39072393@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ceri@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, mbr@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/71730: [patch] fsinfo(8) man page missing information X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:09:15 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] fsinfo(8) man page missing information Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->mbr Responsible-Changed-By: ceri Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Sep 14 16:08:00 GMT 2004 Responsible-Changed-Why: Over to Martin who handled the last import, and therefore will know if it's OK for this manpage to be updated locally again. Martin, if you're happy with this but don't want to handle it yourself, then chuck this back at us doc folks. Thanks. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=71730 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 16:13:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B6916A4CE for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:13:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc2-cdif3-6-0-cust204.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.67.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12F3043D1F for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:13:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.42 (FreeBSD)) id 1C7Fw1-000DqZ-7s; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:13:37 +0100 Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:13:37 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Aaron Gibson Message-ID: <20040914161337.GK1538@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Aaron Gibson , doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20040912192751.GA1538@submonkey.net> <000e01c49a74$e37a6670$6501a8c0@aaron> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="e5bfZ/T2xnjpUIbw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000e01c49a74$e37a6670$6501a8c0@aaron> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 2.12 Advanced Installation Guide (Headless Install) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:13:40 -0000 --e5bfZ/T2xnjpUIbw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 12:07:06PM -0400, Aaron Gibson wrote: > Ceri- >=20 > I obtained the advice to set /boot/loader -h in the boot.config file from > the below URL: >=20 > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-advance= d.html Thanks Aaron - I don't believe that this is correct: Here is where you must set the floppy to boot into a serial console. You have to make a file called boot.config containing /boot/loader -h. All this does is pass a flag to the bootloader to boot into a serial console. =20 # echo "/boot/loader -h" > boot.config I've always used just "-h" here; I'll test it and update it if necessary. You're saying that it *does* work though? Thanks for the response. Ceri --=20 It is not tinfoil, it is my new skin. I am a robot. --e5bfZ/T2xnjpUIbw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBRxiwocfcwTS3JF8RAlC4AJ9UlnSqaQ0XZo6lEjuxo+ASUm434ACfRHer k4H25gJkkbRBDgPMR1/dOKM= =7yxG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --e5bfZ/T2xnjpUIbw-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 16:39:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6046C16A4CE for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:39:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web50306.mail.yahoo.com (web50306.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1046643D31 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:39:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jwes_sm@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20040914163922.24999.qmail@web50306.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.82.243.74] by web50306.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 09:39:22 PDT Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 09:39:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Justin Smith To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Thanks X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:39:23 -0000 I just want to thank all of the FreeBSD document writers for their hard work. I know that much work goes into this. FreeBSD is unmatched in the quality of its documentation! Thank you! Justin _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 16:43:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 307A516A4CE for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:43:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9B4C43D31 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:43:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost.pittgoth.com (acs-24-154-239-170.zoominternet.net [24.154.239.170]) (authenticated bits=0) by pittgoth.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8EGhE0p015062 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 14 Sep 2004 12:43:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 12:43:54 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: Justin Smith Message-Id: <20040914124354.0259213a@localhost.pittgoth.com> In-Reply-To: <20040914163922.24999.qmail@web50306.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040914163922.24999.qmail@web50306.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Thanks X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:43:17 -0000 On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 09:39:22 -0700 (PDT) Justin Smith wrote: > > I just want to thank all of the FreeBSD document writers for their hard > work. I know that much work goes into this. > > FreeBSD is unmatched in the quality of its documentation! Thank you! Thanks for the nice comments! :) -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 17:00:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9DF16A4CF for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:00:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C5D43D1F for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:00:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8EH0Fo7073953 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:00:15 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8EH0FfT073952; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:00:15 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:00:15 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200409141700.i8EH0FfT073952@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Linh Pham Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5226816A4CE for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:54:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte244.dsl-acs2.sea.iinet.com [209.20.244.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DD3743D48 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:54:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from question@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 413C245039; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 09:51:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <20040914165113.413C245039@q.closedsrc.org> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 09:51:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/71735: Update Road Map for 5-STABLE: ia64 and schedule dates X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Linh Pham List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:00:15 -0000 >Number: 71735 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Update Road Map for 5-STABLE: ia64 and schedule dates >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Sep 14 17:00:14 GMT 2004 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Linh Pham >Release: FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p8 i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD q.internal.closedsrc.org 5.2.1-RELEASE-p8 FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p8 #2: Sat Jun 5 19:22:58 PDT 2004 question@q.internal.closedsrc.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/Q i386 >Description: In the "Introduction and Background" section of the article, ia64 needs to be replaced with the more common IA-64 where IA-64 is mentioned as an architecture and not a platform port. Also the dates listed in the "Schedule" section do not seem to line up with the dates provided by the releng pages. 5.3-RC2 is not listed in the releng release process, so I left it commented out until a date has been decided upon or if RC2 is even needed. Not sure if the dates in the patch are exact or not. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- 5-roadmap_article.sgml.diff begins here --- --- article.sgml.old Tue Sep 14 09:26:40 2004 +++ article.sgml Tue Sep 14 09:40:46 2004 @@ -43,7 +43,7 @@ After nearly three years of work, &os; 5.0 was released in January of 2003. Features like the GEOM block layer, Mandatory Access Controls, - ACPI, &sparc64; and ia64 platform support, and UFS snapshots, background + ACPI, &sparc64; and IA-64 platform support, and UFS snapshots, background filesystem checks, and 64-bit inode sizes make it an exciting operating system for both desktop and enterprise users. However, some important features are not complete. The foundations for fine-grained locking @@ -611,16 +611,16 @@ Dec 16, 2003: 5.2-RELEASE - Mar 1, 2004: 5.3-BETA, general code freeze + Aug 22, 2004: 5.3-BETA, general code freeze - Mar 15, 2004: 5.3-RC1, &t.releng.5; and &t.releng.5.3; branched + Sep 24, 2004: 5.3-RC1, &t.releng.5; and &t.releng.5.3; branched - + - Mar 29, 2004: 5.3-RELEASE + Oct 3, 2004: 5.3-RELEASE --- 5-roadmap_article.sgml.diff ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 17:58:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D16E616A4CE for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:58:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gronouski.mail.atl.earthlink.net (gronouski.mail.atl.earthlink.net [199.174.114.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A9643D39 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:58:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aaron@the-gibsons.org) Received: from node-d8e93855-dca-onnet.us.uu.net ([216.233.59.86] helo=aaron) by gronouski.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1C7HZ1-0004s9-00; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 10:57:59 -0700 From: "Aaron Gibson" To: "'Ceri Davies'" Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 13:57:58 -0400 Organization: The Gibsons Message-ID: <001b01c49a84$5f30a2c0$6501a8c0@aaron> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <20040914161337.GK1538@submonkey.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal X-ELNK-Trace: d7899d5d4e85587a99d3fcd8b549784b6e7758a42d7f30c980cf8c6df1dd822451be8f51d0394a13350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: RE: 2.12 Advanced Installation Guide (Headless Install) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: aaron@the-gibsons.org List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:58:08 -0000 Ceri- I did have to do one other step. Placing the /boot/loader -h line in = the boot.config file on the floppy did direct output to the serial console, = but I had to manually modify the /etc/ttys file to enable login from the = serial console. I couldn't find a way to do this during the install or post install configuration of the box. So, I did have to reboot with a = screen and keyboard to make the modification of the /etc/ttys file. =20 Thanks Aaron -----Original Message----- From: Ceri Davies [mailto:setantae@submonkey.net] On Behalf Of Ceri = Davies Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 12:14 PM To: Aaron Gibson Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 2.12 Advanced Installation Guide (Headless Install) On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 12:07:06PM -0400, Aaron Gibson wrote: > Ceri- >=20 > I obtained the advice to set /boot/loader -h in the boot.config file = from > the below URL: >=20 > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-advance= d.h tml Thanks Aaron - I don't believe that this is correct: Here is where you must set the floppy to boot into a serial console. = You have to make a file called boot.config containing /boot/loader -h. = All this does is pass a flag to the bootloader to boot into a serial console. =20 # echo "/boot/loader -h" > boot.config I've always used just "-h" here; I'll test it and update it if necessary. You're saying that it *does* work though? Thanks for the response. Ceri --=20 It is not tinfoil, it is my new skin. I am a robot. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 18:11:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABB1216A4CE for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:11:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc2-cdif3-6-0-cust204.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.67.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 568F243D46 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:11:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.42 (FreeBSD)) id 1C7HmN-000Ekf-E0; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 19:11:47 +0100 Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 19:11:47 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Aaron Gibson Message-ID: <20040914181147.GS1538@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Aaron Gibson , doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20040914161337.GK1538@submonkey.net> <001b01c49a84$5f30a2c0$6501a8c0@aaron> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ugCSa1rMkiCAmd9S" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <001b01c49a84$5f30a2c0$6501a8c0@aaron> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 2.12 Advanced Installation Guide (Headless Install) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:11:48 -0000 --ugCSa1rMkiCAmd9S Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 01:57:58PM -0400, Aaron Gibson wrote: > Ceri- >=20 > I did have to do one other step. Placing the /boot/loader -h line in the > boot.config file on the floppy did direct output to the serial console, b= ut > I had to manually modify the /etc/ttys file to enable login from the seri= al > console. I couldn't find a way to do this during the install or post > install configuration of the box. So, I did have to reboot with a screen > and keyboard to make the modification of the /etc/ttys file. =20 Thanks again Aaron. You should be able to edit /etc/ttys via the Syscons menu in sysinstall (on i386, alpha and amd64 anyway) according to the code, although it would perhaps be nice if sysinstall did this for you if you had booted headless. I haven't checked but I assume that this is missing from the instructions in the handbook; if that's the case then I'll update that too. Ceri --=20 It is not tinfoil, it is my new skin. I am a robot. --ugCSa1rMkiCAmd9S Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBRzRjocfcwTS3JF8RAvUhAJ0W7KuOgEKEJSWrk0pxENpRvrPbEwCgrZp4 AIsSZ1c63s1MDBADrgwfSeE= =AWZB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ugCSa1rMkiCAmd9S-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 18:30:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8578A16A4CF for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:30:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C9B43D41 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:30:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8EIUOil085208 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:30:24 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8EIUO8C085198; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:30:24 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:30:24 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200409141830.i8EIUO8C085198@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Joel Dahl Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39EF416A4CE for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:28:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av11-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (av11-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65E2643D41 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:28:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joel@automatvapen.se) Received: by av11-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 0D7F037E9E; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:28:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.92]) by av11-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F012B37E52 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:28:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dude.automatvapen.se (t2o955p94.telia.com [195.252.52.214]) by smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E14B937E44 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:28:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: by dude.automatvapen.se (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:28:34 +0200 Message-Id: <20040914182816.E14B937E44@smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:28:34 +0200 From: "Joel Dahl" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/71737: [PATCH] FAQ update: Binary drivers from Nvidia X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joel Dahl List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:30:24 -0000 >Number: 71737 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] FAQ update: Binary drivers from Nvidia >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Sep 14 18:30:23 GMT 2004 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Joel Dahl >Release: FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD dude.automatvapen.se 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 #1: Sat Jul 10 16:52:28 CEST 2004 root@dude.automatvapen.se:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WORKSTATION i386 >Description: The part in the FAQ that mentions the binary drivers from Nvidia is not correct. It states that the last supported version of FreeBSD is 4.7, but the new drivers support 4.9+ (STABLE) and 5.2.1+ (CURRENT). The attached patch fixes this. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- nvidia.diff begins here --- --- book.sgml Mon Sep 13 19:33:32 2004 +++ new.book.sgml Tue Sep 14 20:17:41 2004 @@ -8254,14 +8254,17 @@ The availability of 3D acceleration depends on the - version of &xfree86; you are using and the type of video chip - you have. If you have an NVIDIA chip, you can use the binary - drivers provided for FreeBSD 4.7 on the - - Drivers section of their website. For other cards - with &xfree86;-4, including the Matrox G200/G400, ATI Rage - 128/Radeon, and 3dfx Voodoo 3, 4, 5, and Banshee, - information on hardware acceleration is available on the + version of &xfree86; or X.org you are using and the type of + video chip you have. If you have an NVIDIA chip, you can use + the binary drivers provided on the + + Drivers section of their website. Read the + documentation for more information about the supported + versions of FreeBSD. For other cards with &xfree86;-4 or + X.org, including the Matrox G200/G400, ATI Rage 128/Radeon, + and 3dfx Voodoo 3, 4, 5, and Banshee, information on hardware + acceleration is available on the XFree86-4 Direct Rendering on FreeBSD page. Users of --- nvidia.diff ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 19:10:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F242D16A4CF; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 19:10:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C41C843D58; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 19:10:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i8EJA7X4093285; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 19:10:07 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8EJA7Q9093284; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 19:10:07 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 19:10:07 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200409141910.i8EJA7Q9093284@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Cc: ezk@cs.sunysb.edu, obrien@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Mikhail Teterin Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 115F116A4CE for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 19:03:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from corbulon.video-collage.com (corbulon.video-collage.com [64.35.99.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E2B43D54 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 19:02:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mi@corbulon.video-collage.com) Received: from corbulon.video-collage.com (mi@localhost.video-collage.com [127.0.0.1])i8EJ2vm1038197 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 15:02:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi@corbulon.video-collage.com) Received: (from mi@localhost)i8EJ2vno038196; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 15:02:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi) Message-Id: <200409141902.i8EJ2vno038196@corbulon.video-collage.com> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 15:02:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Mikhail Teterin To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 X-GNATS-Notify: ezk@cs.sunysb.edu, obrien@FreeBSD.org Subject: docs/71739: amd.8 points to old web-page X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 19:10:08 -0000 >Number: 71739 >Category: docs >Synopsis: amd.8 points to old web-page >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Sep 14 19:10:07 GMT 2004 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Mikhail Teterin >Release: FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE i386 >Organization: Virtual Estates, Inc. >Environment: >Description: Not only is our version (6.0.7) of am-utils several years behind (6.0.9 is available since January 2003) the link to the package's web-page is now broken. The author moved to a different college and the correct URL is now: http://www.fsl.cs.sunysb.edu/project-am-utils.html This may be worth changing in amd.8 even before importing the newer sources (6.1b4 or 6.0.8). >How-To-Repeat: man amd search for http. Try to use the link. >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 19:29:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A6A16A4CE for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 19:29:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 641F843D1F for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 19:29:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i8EJTcR1007212; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:29:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8EJTbAR007211; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:29:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:29:37 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Brian Herman Message-ID: <20040914192937.GA7165@abigail.blackend.org> References: <2071E0FA-0600-11D9-9FC5-000A95908F0E@cybox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2071E0FA-0600-11D9-9FC5-000A95908F0E@cybox.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.10-PRERELEASE cc: Eric Robison cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Problem with IPSEC in handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 19:29:52 -0000 On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 09:42:39PM -0600, Brian Herman wrote: > I have found a bug in the IPSEC section of the freebsd handbook: > > In the document: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ipsec.html > > Section 14.11.2 The Problem - states: > > There's no standard for what constitutes a VPN. VPNs can be implemented > using a number of different technologies, each of which have their own > strengths and weaknesses. This article presents a number of scenarios, > and strategies for implementing a VPN for each scenario. > > Then begins: > 14.11.3 Scenario #1: Two networks, connected to the Internet, to behave > as one > > However, this html page ends without ever going into any other > scenarios. 14.11.2 implies there should be at least 11.3, 11.4, and > perhaps more. > > The links at the bottom of this page go forward to > 14.12 - Open SSH > and backward to > 14.10 - OpenSSL > > So I can't tell if the IPSEC document 14.11 is incomplete, or if it > simply has improper links in it. Thanks for taking a look at this. > It's wellknown issues :( I mentioned these problems months ago. Since I do not have any idea of what are the other scenarios, I will just "axe" the mention to other ones. Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 01:27:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27DF116A4CE for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 01:27:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A946A43D1F for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 01:27:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8F1RKQh047596 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 01:27:20 GMT (envelope-from www@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8F1RKlc047595 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 01:27:20 GMT (envelope-from www) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 01:27:20 GMT From: World Wide Web Owner Message-Id: <200409150127.i8F1RKlc047595@www.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD web build failed on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 01:27:21 -0000 /usr/local/bin/xsltproc -o events.html /w/www/build/www/en/events/events.xsl /w/www/build/www/en/events/events.xml /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml events.html ===> events/2002 ===> events/2003 ===> FAQ ===> handbook ===> tutorials ===> internal /usr/bin/perl5 /w/www/build/www/en/internal/homepage.pl > homepage.inc /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' homepage.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/en/internal > homepage.html || (/bin/rm -f homepage.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml homepage.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) ===> java ===> java/dists ===> java/docs ===> java/links ===> copyright ===> search ===> projects ===> projects/busdma ===> projects/c99 ===> projects/gnats4 ===> projects/mips ===> projects/bigdisk ===> prstats ===> prstats/../../tools/prstats ./go.tcl /c/gnats unable to convert date-time string "Tue Sep 14 22:12:23 EEST 2004" while executing "clock scan [lrange $a 1 end" (procedure "PR" line 10) invoked from within "PR $pr" ("foreach" body line 2) invoked from within "foreach pr [glob $gnatsdir] { PR $pr } " (file "./go.tcl" line 46) *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/tools/prstats. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en/prstats. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en. 217.97 real 128.00 user 8.74 sys From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 05:25:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B890D16A4CF for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 05:25:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD12743D55 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 05:25:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (www@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8F5PDje066090 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 05:25:13 GMT (envelope-from www@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8F5PDGw066089 for freebsd-doc; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 05:25:13 GMT (envelope-from www) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 05:25:13 GMT From: WWW pseudo-user Message-Id: <200409150525.i8F5PDGw066089@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD web build failed on freefall.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 05:25:13 -0000 /usr/local/bin/xsltproc -o events.html /c/www/build/www/en/events/events.xsl /c/www/build/www/en/events/events.xml /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml events.html ===> events/2002 ===> events/2003 ===> FAQ ===> handbook ===> tutorials ===> internal /usr/bin/perl5 /c/www/build/www/en/internal/homepage.pl > homepage.inc /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' homepage.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/en/internal > homepage.html || (/bin/rm -f homepage.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml homepage.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) ===> java ===> java/dists ===> java/docs ===> java/links ===> copyright ===> search ===> projects ===> projects/busdma ===> projects/c99 ===> projects/gnats4 ===> projects/mips ===> projects/bigdisk ===> prstats ===> prstats/../../tools/prstats ./go.tcl /c/gnats unable to convert date-time string "Tue Sep 14 22:12:23 EEST 2004" while executing "clock scan [lrange $a 1 end" (procedure "PR" line 10) invoked from within "PR $pr" ("foreach" body line 2) invoked from within "foreach pr [glob $gnatsdir] { PR $pr } " (file "./go.tcl" line 46) *** Error code 1 Stop in /c/www/build/www/tools/prstats. *** Error code 1 Stop in /c/www/build/www/en/prstats. *** Error code 1 Stop in /c/www/build/www/en. 146.09 real 74.80 user 2.18 sys From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 08:24:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED43916A4CE for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 08:24:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns.eu.org (ns.eu.org [137.194.2.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5180143D2F for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 08:24:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from autoreg@EU.org) Received: by ns.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 1025) id 3384A28BC8; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 10:24:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Loop: ns.eu.org From: hostmaster@EU.org To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20040915082422.3384A28BC8@ns.eu.org> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 10:24:22 +0200 (CEST) Subject: your message X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: dns-manager@eu.org List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 08:24:24 -0000 No valid request has been found in your message. Please fill-in and resend the following template: ******************* Please DO NOT REMOVE Version Number ******************** Domain Version Number: E1.0 ********* Send the completed form by E-mail to DNS-MANAGER@EU.org ********** DOMAIN REGISTRATION FORM Before applying, be sure that you agree with the domain policy (see at end). _________________________________________________________________ rt. (N)ew (M)odify (D)elete....: dm. Complete Domain Name.......: Organization Using Domain Name (fill only for new domains or contact change) (if you are an individual, fill the organization name with your name) om. Organization Name..........: oa. Address (line 1)...........: op. Address (line 2)...........: oc. Address (line 3)...........: os. Address (line 4)...........: on. Country....................: Administrative Contact (fill only for new domains or contact change) ah. NIC Handle (if known)......: am. Name (First Last)..........: ao. Organization Name..........: aa. Address (line 1)...........: ap. Address (line 2)...........: ac. Address (line 3)...........: as. Address (line 4)...........: an. Country....................: at. Phone Number...............: ae. E-Mailbox..................: Technical Contact (fill only for new domains or contact change) (skip if same as administrative contact) th. NIC Handle (if known)......: tm. Name (First Last)..........: to. Organization Name..........: ta. Address (line 1)...........: tp. Address (line 2)...........: tc. Address (line 3)...........: ts. Address (line 4)...........: tn. Country....................: tt. Phone Number...............: te. E-Mailbox..................: Technical information Resource Record Type rr. NS, CNAME, MX, Wilcard MX..: If you are requesting a NS record Fill f1...fX and i1...iX respectively with the fully qualified domain names and (only if necessary) the IP addresses for your domain servers; put the primary at the top of the list. You don't need to fill all lines. IP addresses are only needed when the domain names for the servers are within the requested domain. If you are requesting a MX (or wildcard-MX) record Fill f1..fX. The names you supply must point to an address (A type) record. The lowest precedence MX should be listed first. If you are requesting a CNAME record Only fill f1. It must exist and must not point to a CNAME record. Primary Server f1. Server Hostname............: i1. Server Netaddress..........: Secondary Server(s) (copy as many times as needed) f2. Server Hostname............: i2. Server Netaddress..........: The party requesting registration of this name certifies that, to her/his knowledge, the use of this name does not violate trademark or other statutes. Registering a domain name does not confer any legal rights to that name and any disputes between parties over the rights to use a particular name are to be settled between the contending parties using normal legal methods. (See RFC 1591) --------------------------------- cut here --------------------------------- EU.ORG GENERAL POLICY The following recursively applies to _all_ subdomains of EU.org. There are additional rules for direct subdomains. Commercial sites Though the service is mostly geared towards non-profit and not-for-profit organizations and individuals, small commercial sites are accepted, but they are _VERY STRONGLY_ asked to do so only as a very last resort, unless of course they support EU.org goals. Non-European sites Since Europe is not the only place where national NIC policies are a problem, non-european sites are welcome. Administrative authorizations It is advised that owners of subdomains obtain necessary administrative authorizations from the site(s) hosting their nameservers or machines in the domain. Subdomains Subdomain managers willing to provide registration to third parties in their domain have an obligation to: Provide registration for free or for a minimal fee The registration fee, if any, _MUST_ be minimal and must only cover costs in _DIRECT RELATION_ with the registration and management of the zone file(s) and server(s). Using registration fees to fund any of the following is explicitly excluded : + software development work (even DNS-related); + wages; + paperwork. Registration in a given subdomain can be reserved to the members of an organization with a subscription fee, but the subdomain registration should not be the primary service provided by the organization to its paying members. Be equitable to all groups in the domain that request domain names Compliance to Internet standards Subdomain owners must comply with Internet standards (RFCs). This includes, but is not limited to: * name of subdomains * e-mail software * nameserver software Trademarks InterNIC rules regarding trademarks apply: Registering a domain name does not confer any legal rights to that name and any disputes between parties over the rights to use a particular name are to be settled between the contending parties using normal legal methods (See RFC 1591). _________________________________________________________________ POLICY FOR EU.ORG The following only applies to domains registered _directly within_ EU.org. The general policy also applies. Non-proliferation The domain manager reserves the right to refuse any domain creation directly in EU.org if it is estimated that registration in an existing subdomain of EU.org (country delegation, for example) would be acceptable. The goal is to avoid the creation of a flat and unmanageable namespace. Type of records To minimize administration, only domain delegation (_NS_ records) is provided. If you want other types of resource records, you will have to request a domain delegation for the desired zone and manage the new zone yourself. This implies that you need access to a machine running a name server. Sites willing to provide this service for third parties can contact hostmaster@EU.org. Subdomain names Only subdomains of 4 characters or more will be registered automatically. 3 character names are normally reserved for internal use and future extensions, but can be allocated on a case-by-case basis preferably to non-profit associations, european organizations, and so on. 2 character names are reserved to ISO country codes (country delegations) and internal use. Write to hostmaster@EU.org if you have good reasons to ask for such a domain (for example if you want to get a delegation for a country domain). _________________________________________________________________ OPEN DOMAINS AND POLICIES In addition to _EU.org_ itself, the following subdomains are already reserved and open to registration. The idea is to avoid creating a flat and unmanageable namespace in EU.org. Registration directly in EU.org is possible, but it is advised that you register in one of the following subdomains instead. The policies for these domains are the same as the general policy for EU.org, with the addition that _MX_, _wildcard MX_ and _CNAME_ records are allowed. If the country (or other, like NET.eu.org for example) of your dreams is not in the list below, don't hesitate to write to hostmaster@EU.org to request that it is created and open to registration. The reason it is not present is probably that no one requested it yet. International domains EDU.eu.org Educational sites NET.eu.org Network-related eu.org Organizations There is no ORG.eu.org for organizations; EU.org itself is supposed to serve that purpose. EEC countries already delegated: + FR.eu.org + NL.eu.org + Other countries will be opened on request. _________________________________________________________________ RESOURCE RECORD TYPES When you register your domain, you can ask for one of the following record types. They are listed in order of increasing complexity and needed resources. CNAME A _CNAME_ is an alias to a name of your choice that you can change any time you want. It can be used, for example, to obtain a provider-independent address for dialup users. It has the drawback of being "hidden", for example your mail addresses will be rewritten with the "real" name, not the alias you requested in EU.org. On the other hand, it needs no configuration change except here in EU.org. For example, suppose your mail address is currently _you@cheapnet.fr_ and you'd like it to be _you@mynet.fr.eu.org_ (notice that the username, left of @, will not change). You only need to fill a request for domain _mynet.fr.eu.org_, type _CNAME_, and put _cheapnet.fr_ as Name1. MX This is a "mail exchanger" record that is used to direct mail to a particular machine. To use this, you need the destination machine to be configured to recognize your new address. This obviously implies that the administrator of the target machine must agree. Wildcard MX Exactly the same as the above, except it also gets mail for subdomains. The destination machine should be able to deal with this, of course. NS Full domain delegation, the method that gives you the most control over your domain. To use this, you need at least two permanently connected machines running a nameserver configured with your domain. _________________________________________________________________ HOW TO REGISTER YOUR DOMAIN Registering means you agree to comply with the rules explained in the policies relevant for the domain you register in. 1. Read the general policy; 2. Choose a record type suited to your needs and your possibilities; 3. Choose an open domain to register in, according to the record type you want. _Try to avoid registration directly under EU.org_; 4. If you really, really want to register directly in EU.org, check the policy for direct subdomains; there are intentionally more constraints; 5. If you want a full domain delegation, configure your nameserver(s); 6. Fill and submit the registration form. The form (and your nameserver configuration, if it applies) will be checked for errors and you will immediately be presented with the results; 7. Iterate, correcting errors until your request is accepted; 8. Wait for an e-mail reply indicating that your request has been validated. This step requires human intervention and can take a few days. _________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 11:50:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD8A516A4CE for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 11:50:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E93143D5D for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 11:50:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8FBoUGf012410 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 11:50:30 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8FBoUEm012409; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 11:50:30 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 11:50:30 GMT Message-Id: <200409151150.i8FBoUEm012409@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Gavin Atkinson Subject: Re: docs/62402: easily circumventable Blade150 problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gavin Atkinson List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 11:50:30 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/62402; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Gavin Atkinson To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, lodewijk@cope.nl Cc: Subject: Re: docs/62402: easily circumventable Blade150 problem Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 12:46:34 +0100 Hi, Can you try with a more recent version of FreeBSD (as 5.3 is about to be released) and report if this is still a problem? If it is, this PR may be better filed in the Sparc64 category as a bug to fix rather than something to document. Gavin From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 15:39:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F64016A4E1; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 15:39:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc2-cdif3-6-0-cust204.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.67.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 331E343D2F; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 15:39:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.42 (FreeBSD)) id 1C7bsG-000Mim-Pp; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 16:39:12 +0100 Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 16:39:12 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: WWW pseudo-user Message-ID: <20040915153912.GA1538@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , WWW pseudo-user , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org References: <200409150525.i8F5PDGw066089@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zGa1rFMfQatMxgJk" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200409150525.i8F5PDGw066089@freefall.freebsd.org> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD web build failed on freefall.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 15:39:14 -0000 --zGa1rFMfQatMxgJk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 05:25:13AM +0000, WWW pseudo-user wrote: > =3D=3D=3D> prstats/../../tools/prstats > ./go.tcl /c/gnats > unable to convert date-time string "Tue Sep 14 22:12:23 EEST 2004" > while executing > "clock scan [lrange $a 1 end" > (procedure "PR" line 10) > invoked from within > "PR $pr" > ("foreach" body line 2) > invoked from within > "foreach pr [glob $gnatsdir] { > PR $pr > } > " > (file "./go.tcl" line 46) Fixed. Ceri --=20 It is not tinfoil, it is my new skin. I am a robot. --zGa1rFMfQatMxgJk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBSGIgocfcwTS3JF8RAhoQAKC+mIMJIgwSQzhqLlu0DiC/MA2/vwCcD36U EYBO3TIq7elfZKP0DRvI6e0= =96dH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zGa1rFMfQatMxgJk-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 17:00:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C8216A4CF for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:00:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A8A43D1F for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:00:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8FH0kIZ051390 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:00:46 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8FH0k0v051387; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:00:46 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:00:46 GMT Message-Id: <200409151700.i8FH0k0v051387@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Gavin Atkinson Subject: Re: docs/42977: request: document the fact that the FreeBSD installer doesn't probe past EISA slot 10. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gavin Atkinson List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:00:47 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/42977; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Gavin Atkinson To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, bofh@ox.cx Cc: Subject: Re: docs/42977: request: document the fact that the FreeBSD installer doesn't probe past EISA slot 10. Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:52:33 +0100 This issue has been documented in the Troubleshooting section of the i386 notes for a while now and can therefore probably be closed. e.g. section 4.3.12 of http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.6R/installation-i386.html From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 00:20:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0648516A4CF for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 00:20:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28F2F43D31 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 00:20:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8G0KPiA004655 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 00:20:25 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8G0KPc7004654; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 00:20:25 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 00:20:25 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200409160020.i8G0KPc7004654@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Guy Harris Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8266C16A4CE for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 00:15:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77AB343D2D for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 00:15:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8G0Ffix066631 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 00:15:41 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8G0FfpN066630; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 00:15:41 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200409160015.i8G0FfpN066630@www.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 00:15:41 GMT From: Guy Harris To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-2.3 Subject: docs/71782: mount_nfs man page is a bit out of date X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 00:20:26 -0000 >Number: 71782 >Category: docs >Synopsis: mount_nfs man page is a bit out of date >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Sep 16 00:20:24 GMT 2004 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Guy Harris >Release: 5.2.1 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: The mount_nfs man page claims that NFS-over-TCP is mainly a BSD thing: -T Use TCP transport instead of UDP. This is recommended for servers that are not on the same LAN cable as the client. (NB: This is NOT supported by most non-BSD servers.) and BUGS Due to the way that Sun RPC is implemented on top of UDP (unreliable datagram) transport, tuning such mounts is really a black art that can only be expected to have limited success. For clients mounting servers that are not on the same LAN cable or that tend to be overloaded, TCP transport is strongly recommended, but unfortunately this is restricted to mostly 4.4BSD servers. which is somewhat out-of-date now. It also seems to think the "-r" and "-w" flags are mainly used for cranking I/O sizes down for use with UDP-only servers on lossy networks, which might lead some to think you can't use it to crank the sizes *up* on, for example, NFS-over-TCP connections. The NetBSD mount_nfs man page says for "-T": -T Use TCP transport instead of UDP. This is recommended for servers that are not on the same physical network as the client. Not all NFS servers, especially not old ones, support this. and doesn't have that BUGS item. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 14:51:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A499516A4CE for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 14:51:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.ktnet.kg (mail.ktnet.kg [213.145.129.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 243F243D53 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 14:51:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from diogenes@ktnet.kg) Received: from homestudio (213-145-130-41.ktnet.kg [213.145.130.41]) by mail.ktnet.kg (8.12.5/8.12.9) with SMTP id i8GEp4qX019608 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 20:51:06 +0600 Message-ID: <000801c49bfc$f71c7e00$298291d5@homestudio> From: "Home Studio" To: Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 20:53:42 +0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: FreeBSD Minimum Install ISO-image r5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 14:51:15 -0000 Hi there! Sorry to interrupt you, but I can't find an information what is included = in *subj*. Can you help me (eg place readme file in the cataloque)? Or if this info does exist, I am awfully sorry! Please let me know where = to find... Thanks a lot and best regards, \diogenes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 16:32:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8614316A4CE; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 16:32:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64E7243D46; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 16:32:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (linimon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i8GGWhEK033834; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 16:32:43 GMT (envelope-from linimon@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from linimon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8GGWhjr033830; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 16:32:43 GMT (envelope-from linimon) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 16:32:43 GMT From: Mark Linimon Message-Id: <200409161632.i8GGWhjr033830@freefall.freebsd.org> To: bofh@ox.cx, linimon@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/42977: request: document the fact that the FreeBSD installer doesn't probe past EISA slot 10. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 16:32:43 -0000 Synopsis: request: document the fact that the FreeBSD installer doesn't probe past EISA slot 10. State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: linimon State-Changed-When: Thu Sep 16 16:32:17 GMT 2004 State-Changed-Why: This information is now documented in the Troubleshooting section. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=42977 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 16:37:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4883816A4CE for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 16:37:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gandalf.online.bg (gandalf.online.bg [217.75.128.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C86FD43D45 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 16:37:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roam@ringlet.net) Received: (qmail 9924 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2004 16:34:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO straylight.m.ringlet.net) (217.75.134.254) by gandalf.online.bg with SMTP; 16 Sep 2004 16:34:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 5965 invoked by uid 1000); 16 Sep 2004 16:37:50 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 19:37:50 +0300 From: Peter Pentchev To: Home Studio Message-ID: <20040916163750.GA1592@straylight.m.ringlet.net> Mail-Followup-To: Home Studio , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org References: <000801c49bfc$f71c7e00$298291d5@homestudio> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000801c49bfc$f71c7e00$298291d5@homestudio> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Minimum Install ISO-image r5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 16:37:20 -0000 --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Sep 16, 2004 at 08:53:42PM +0600, Home Studio wrote: > Hi there! >=20 > Sorry to interrupt you, but I can't find an information what is > included in *subj*. Can you help me (eg place readme file in the > cataloque)? >=20 > Or if this info does exist, I am awfully sorry! Please let me know > where to find... >=20 > Thanks a lot and best regards, What exactly is it that you want to know about the 5.2.1 mini-ISO? :) If you are asking about where to fetch it from, try: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/5.2.1/5.2.1-RELE= ASE-i386-miniinst.iso =2E.or any of the mirrors. If your question is 'what is it', the mini-install ISO image is a CD image for installing the FreeBSD base system only, no ports or packages. The base system sources (/usr/src) are included, though. Hope that helps! G'luck, Peter --=20 Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@cnsys.bg roam@FreeBSD.org PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 I am the meaning of this sentence. --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBScFe7Ri2jRYZRVMRAhU/AJ9wEXrAJLJ9iRjhX1ndEr/RKrE/0ACgiuby YF9S3kE+dY7ZTQQuapQd9XE= =KtBt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 21:30:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D3616A4CF for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 21:30:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6E9843D48 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 21:30:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8GLUHS5051673 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 21:30:17 GMT (envelope-from www@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8GLUHqE051671 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 21:30:17 GMT (envelope-from www) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 21:30:17 GMT From: World Wide Web Owner Message-Id: <200409162130.i8GLUHqE051671@www.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD web build failed on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 21:30:18 -0000 /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=ISO-8859-1 /usr/local/bin/jade -V nochunks -ioutput.html -d /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/sparc64/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -V %generate-article-toc% -ino.include.historic -D /usr/obj/w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/sparc64 -c /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/sparc64/../../../en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/sparc64/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/sparc64/../../../share/sgml /catalog-auto -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/sparc64/../../../share/sgml/catalog-auto -t sgml /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/sparc64/article.sgml > article.html || (/bin/rm -f article.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml article.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=ISO-8859-1 /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -d /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/sparc64/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -V %generate-article-toc% -ino.include.historic -D /usr/obj/w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/sparc64 -c /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/sparc64/../../../en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/sparc64/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/sparc64/../../../share /sgml/catalog-auto -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/sparc64/../../../share/sgml/catalog-auto -t sgml /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/sparc64/article.sgml /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml $(/usr/bin/xargs < HTML.manifest) *** Error code 1 (ignored) ===> relnotes/CURRENT/en_US.ISO8859-1/readme ===> relnotes/CURRENT/en_US.ISO8859-1/errata ===> relnotes/CURRENT/en_US.ISO8859-1/installation ===> relnotes/CURRENT/en_US.ISO8859-1/installation/alpha ===> relnotes/CURRENT/en_US.ISO8859-1/installation/amd64 ===> relnotes/CURRENT/en_US.ISO8859-1/installation/ia64 ===> relnotes/CURRENT/en_US.ISO8859-1/installation/i386 ===> relnotes/CURRENT/en_US.ISO8859-1/installation/pc98 ===> relnotes/CURRENT/en_US.ISO8859-1/installation/sparc64 ===> relnotes/5-STABLE/share/sgml /usr/bin/perl /w/www/build/relnotes5/doc/share/sgml/../../share/misc/man2hwnotes.pl -a /w/www/build/relnotes5/doc/share/sgml/../../share/misc/dev.archlist.txt -o dev-auto.sgml /w/www/build/relnotes5/doc/share/sgml/../../../man4/*.4 /w/www/build/relnotes5/doc/share/sgml/../../../man4/man4.*/*.4 ===> relnotes/5-STABLE/en_US.ISO8859-1 ===> relnotes/5-STABLE/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes ===> relnotes/5-STABLE/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha ===> relnotes/5-STABLE/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/amd64 ===> relnotes/5-STABLE/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/ia64 ===> relnotes/5-STABLE/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/i386 ===> relnotes/5-STABLE/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/pc98 ===> relnotes/5-STABLE/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/sparc64 ===> relnotes/5-STABLE/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware ===> relnotes/5-STABLE/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha cd /w/www/build/relnotes5/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha/../../../share/sgml && make dev-auto.sgml `dev-auto.sgml' is up to date. /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=ISO-8859-1 /usr/local/bin/jade -V nochunks -ioutput.html -d /w/www/build/relnotes5/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -V %generate-article-toc% -ino.include.historic -D /usr/obj/w/www/build/relnotes5/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha -c /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes5/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha/../../../en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes5/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -c /w/www/build/relnotes5/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha/../../../share/sgml/cata log-auto -c /w/www/build/relnotes5/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha/../../../share/sgml/catalog-auto -t sgml /w/www/build/relnotes5/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha/article.sgml > article.html || (/bin/rm -f article.html && false) /usr/local/bin/jade:/w/www/build/relnotes5/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha/../common/../common/dev.sgml:1336:5:E: general entity "hwlist.ng.ubt" not defined and no default entity *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/relnotes5/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/relnotes5/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/relnotes5/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/relnotes5/doc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en/relnotes. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en. 386.28 real 322.68 user 36.56 sys From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 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from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0999E16A4CE for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 06:09:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.eos.ocn.ne.jp (eos.ocn.ne.jp [222.146.51.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B218143D1F for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 06:09:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from delta.allbsd.org (p43012-adsao12honb4-acca.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp [219.161.232.12]) by smtp.eos.ocn.ne.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92B803EF2 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:09:48 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (alph.allbsd.org [192.168.0.10]) by delta.allbsd.org (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i8H68FbT085097 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:08:16 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:07:33 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20040917.150733.78703836.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> To: doc@FreeBSD.org From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <20040906.021054.90164860.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> References: <20040906.021054.90164860.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> 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Thank you for your cooperation and keep up the good work! -- | Hiroki SATO ----Security_Multipart(Fri_Sep_17_15_07_33_2004_271)-- Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBSn8lTyzT2CeTzy0RAg/7AJ9Oh9gUPpVlUNFj/LV81IUBxyPaJACeLuzU YBN0KMRoYLGfmj/u+gpRVI8= =bUys -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----Security_Multipart(Fri_Sep_17_15_07_33_2004_271)---- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 08:37:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB0E16A4CE for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 08:37:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from people.fsn.hu (people.fsn.hu [195.228.252.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4958043D49 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 08:37:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bra@fsn.hu) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by people.fsn.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE518447E for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:37:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from people.fsn.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (people.fsn.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 40688-04-6 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:37:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [172.16.129.72] (fw.axelero.hu [195.228.243.120]) by people.fsn.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0FCC84486 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:37:38 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <414AA24F.7020704@fsn.hu> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:37:35 +0200 From: Attila Nagy User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040823 X-Accept-Language: hu, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at fsn.hu Subject: CVSROOT checkout? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 08:37:50 -0000 Hello, I would like to checkout the FreeBSD CVSROOT from CVS, but I cannot find it. Some years ago I was able to do this from anoncvs.freebsd.org, but currently it refuses CVS pserver access. From the following page: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/anoncvs.html neither "USA: freebsdanoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs (ssh only - no password)" and "setenv CVSROOT :pserver:anoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs % cvs login At the prompt, enter the password ``anoncvs''." does not work. Is this normal and just the document lags behind reality? Thanks, -- Attila Nagy e-mail: Attila.Nagy@fsn.hu Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 371 3536 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=download cell.: +3630 306 6758 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 08:42:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E89216A4CE for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 08:42:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from valentine.liquidneon.com (valentine.liquidneon.com [216.38.206.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED0EE43D2D for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 08:42:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from so14k@so14k.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by valentine.liquidneon.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54217831; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 02:42:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from valentine.liquidneon.com ([216.38.206.180]) by localhost (valentine.liquidneon.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 87204-04; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 02:42:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from webmail.liquidneon.com (valentine.liquidneon.com [216.38.206.180]) by valentine.liquidneon.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9CC481D; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 02:42:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 199.201.236.2 (SquirrelMail authenticated user so14k@so14k.com); by webmail.liquidneon.com with HTTP; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 02:42:36 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <40449.199.201.236.2.1095410556.squirrel@199.201.236.2> In-Reply-To: <414AA24F.7020704@fsn.hu> References: <414AA24F.7020704@fsn.hu> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 02:42:36 -0600 (MDT) From: "Brad Davis" To: "Attila Nagy" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at liquidneon.com cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVSROOT checkout? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 08:42:38 -0000 On Fri, September 17, 2004 2:37 am, Attila Nagy said: > Hello, > > I would like to checkout the FreeBSD CVSROOT from CVS, but I cannot find > it. > > Some years ago I was able to do this from anoncvs.freebsd.org, but > currently it refuses CVS pserver access. > > From the following page: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/anoncvs.html > > neither > "USA: freebsdanoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs (ssh only - no > password)" > > and > > "setenv CVSROOT :pserver:anoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs > % cvs login > At the prompt, enter the password ``anoncvs''." > > does not work. > try: CVSROOT=freebsdanoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs cvs co blah it says ssh only so leave out the :pserver: part. Regards, Brad Davis From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 08:47:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B15616A4CE for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 08:47:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd.org.cn (dns3.freebsd.org.cn [61.129.66.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C61F043D2D for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 08:47:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from delphij@frontfree.net) Received: (qmail 4097 invoked by uid 0); 17 Sep 2004 08:44:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO beastie.frontfree.net) (219.239.98.7) by mail.freebsd.org.cn with SMTP; 17 Sep 2004 08:44:00 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.frontfree.net [127.0.0.1]) by beastie.frontfree.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FFED131159; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 16:47:42 +0800 (CST) Received: from beastie.frontfree.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (beastie.frontfree.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02685-01; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 16:47:36 +0800 (CST) Received: by beastie.frontfree.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id ED99F130E88; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 16:47:35 +0800 (CST) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 16:47:35 +0800 From: Xin LI To: Attila Nagy Message-ID: <20040917084735.GA2141@frontfree.net> References: <414AA24F.7020704@fsn.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <414AA24F.7020704@fsn.hu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-key-ID/Fingerprint: 0xCAEEB8C0 / 43B8 B703 B8DD 0231 B333 DC28 39FB 93A0 CAEE B8C0 X-GPG-Public-Key: http://www.delphij.net/delphij.asc X-Operating-System: FreeBSD beastie.frontfree.net 5.3-delphij FreeBSD 5.3-delphij #4: Mon Sep 13 12:44:05 CST 2004 delphij@beastie.frontfree.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BEASTIE i386 X-URL: http://www.delphij.net X-By: delphij@beastie.frontfree.net X-Location: Beijing, China X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at frontfree.net cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: CVSROOT checkout? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 08:47:48 -0000 --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 10:37:35AM +0200, Attila Nagy wrote: > I would like to checkout the FreeBSD CVSROOT from CVS, but I cannot find = it. >=20 > Some years ago I was able to do this from anoncvs.freebsd.org, but=20 > currently it refuses CVS pserver access. >=20 > From the following page: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/anoncvs.html >=20 > neither > "USA: freebsdanoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs (ssh only - no=20 > password)" >=20 > and >=20 > "setenv CVSROOT :pserver:anoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs > % cvs login > At the prompt, enter the password ``anoncvs''." >=20 > does not work. >=20 > Is this normal and just the document lags behind reality? I think you may want setenv CVSROOT :ext:anoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs Instead. This should work in this case. Note that with ssh you don't need a cvs login any more. Maybe we should document about how to use a SSH anoncvs? Cheers, --=20 Xin LI http://www.delphij.net/ See complete headers for GPG key and other information. --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBSqSn/cVsHxFZiIoRAkuvAJ0SePN21v3q1piLElBx/UZKpL8SEwCfU1ut FaF6zTvBWZzeiAuj0ua+tUk= =gI19 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 08:49:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6316916A4CE for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 08:49:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from people.fsn.hu (people.fsn.hu [195.228.252.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B283B43D3F for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 08:49:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bra@fsn.hu) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by people.fsn.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4E28447A; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:49:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from people.fsn.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (people.fsn.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 43153-01-2; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:48:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [172.16.129.72] (fw.axelero.hu [195.228.243.120]) by people.fsn.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78D4884486; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:48:25 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <414AA4D4.4090009@fsn.hu> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:48:20 +0200 From: Attila Nagy User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040823 X-Accept-Language: hu, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brad Davis References: <414AA24F.7020704@fsn.hu> <40449.199.201.236.2.1095410556.squirrel@199.201.236.2> In-Reply-To: <40449.199.201.236.2.1095410556.squirrel@199.201.236.2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at fsn.hu cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVSROOT checkout? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 08:49:18 -0000 Brad Davis wrote: > try: CVSROOT=freebsdanoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs > cvs co blah > it says ssh only so leave out the :pserver: part. I must be on crack, last time I tried, it asked for a password. BTW, I still would like to know, how could I access the contents of the "real" CVSROOT, which drives the development server. Years ago it was available on the public servers, and those scripts were really good (ACLs, etc). So I'm looking for the cfg.pm, avail and other stuff which the committers sometimes hack on the cvs-all lists. It seems that the structure somewhat changed and those scripts are only on the main CVS server, not the public ones. -- Attila Nagy e-mail: Attila.Nagy@fsn.hu Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 371 3536 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=download cell.: +3630 306 6758 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 08:51:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A9D316A4CE for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 08:51:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from valentine.liquidneon.com (valentine.liquidneon.com [216.38.206.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 100DB43D41 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 08:51:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from so14k@so14k.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by valentine.liquidneon.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A690831; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 02:51:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from valentine.liquidneon.com ([216.38.206.180]) by localhost (valentine.liquidneon.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 87217-06; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 02:51:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from webmail.liquidneon.com (valentine.liquidneon.com [216.38.206.180]) by valentine.liquidneon.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C65B81D; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 02:51:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 199.201.236.2 (SquirrelMail authenticated user so14k@so14k.com); by webmail.liquidneon.com with HTTP; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 02:51:47 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <40573.199.201.236.2.1095411107.squirrel@199.201.236.2> In-Reply-To: <20040917084735.GA2141@frontfree.net> References: <414AA24F.7020704@fsn.hu> <20040917084735.GA2141@frontfree.net> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 02:51:47 -0600 (MDT) From: "Brad Davis" To: "Xin LI" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at liquidneon.com cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVSROOT checkout? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 08:51:48 -0000 On Fri, September 17, 2004 2:47 am, Xin LI said: > On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 10:37:35AM +0200, Attila Nagy wrote: >> I would like to checkout the FreeBSD CVSROOT from CVS, but I cannot find >> it. >> >> Some years ago I was able to do this from anoncvs.freebsd.org, but >> currently it refuses CVS pserver access. >> >> From the following page: >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/anoncvs.html >> >> neither >> "USA: freebsdanoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs (ssh only - no >> password)" >> >> and >> >> "setenv CVSROOT :pserver:anoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs >> % cvs login >> At the prompt, enter the password ``anoncvs''." >> >> does not work. >> >> Is this normal and just the document lags behind reality? > > I think you may want > setenv CVSROOT :ext:anoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs > > Instead. This should work in this case. Note that with ssh you > don't need a cvs login any more. > > Maybe we should document about how to use a SSH anoncvs? Yeah, I'll add that to my list.. Regards, Brad Davis From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 08:55:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D04416A4CE for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 08:55:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd.org.cn (dns3.freebsd.org.cn [61.129.66.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DA22343D3F for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 08:55:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from delphij@frontfree.net) Received: (qmail 4150 invoked by uid 0); 17 Sep 2004 08:51:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO beastie.frontfree.net) (219.239.98.7) by mail.freebsd.org.cn with SMTP; 17 Sep 2004 08:51:29 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.frontfree.net [127.0.0.1]) by beastie.frontfree.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E2E13155C; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 16:55:12 +0800 (CST) Received: from beastie.frontfree.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (beastie.frontfree.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02685-05; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 16:55:05 +0800 (CST) Received: by beastie.frontfree.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E12EE1311FD; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 16:55:04 +0800 (CST) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 16:55:04 +0800 From: Xin LI To: Attila Nagy Message-ID: <20040917085504.GA1749@frontfree.net> References: <414AA24F.7020704@fsn.hu> <40449.199.201.236.2.1095410556.squirrel@199.201.236.2> <414AA4D4.4090009@fsn.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SUOF0GtieIMvvwua" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <414AA4D4.4090009@fsn.hu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-key-ID/Fingerprint: 0xCAEEB8C0 / 43B8 B703 B8DD 0231 B333 DC28 39FB 93A0 CAEE B8C0 X-GPG-Public-Key: http://www.delphij.net/delphij.asc X-Operating-System: FreeBSD beastie.frontfree.net 5.3-delphij FreeBSD 5.3-delphij #4: Mon Sep 13 12:44:05 CST 2004 delphij@beastie.frontfree.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BEASTIE i386 X-URL: http://www.delphij.net X-By: delphij@beastie.frontfree.net X-Location: Beijing, China X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at frontfree.net cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVSROOT checkout? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 08:55:18 -0000 --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 10:48:20AM +0200, Attila Nagy wrote: >=20 > Brad Davis wrote: > >try: CVSROOT=3Dfreebsdanoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs > >cvs co blah > >it says ssh only so leave out the :pserver: part. > I must be on crack, last time I tried, it asked for a password. >=20 > BTW, I still would like to know, how could I access the contents of the= =20 > "real" CVSROOT, which drives the development server. >=20 > Years ago it was available on the public servers, and those scripts were= =20 > really good (ACLs, etc). >=20 > So I'm looking for the cfg.pm, avail and other stuff which the=20 > committers sometimes hack on the cvs-all lists. >=20 > It seems that the structure somewhat changed and those scripts are only= =20 > on the main CVS server, not the public ones. Oh... The FreeBSD Project has decided to separate its CVS repositories into four - src, doc, ports, projects respectively. There are now four actual "CVSROOT"'s so to avoid conflicits they are called CVSROOT-src, CVSROOT-ports and so forth when you check out from a CVS repository and CVSROOT was changed to a combined one that contains necessary information for checkouts (e.g. modules, etc). So you may want to have: cvs co CVSROOT-src instead of cvs co CVSROOT if you want the CVSROOT source for the src repository. Cheers, --=20 Xin LI http://www.delphij.net/ See complete headers for GPG key and other information. --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBSqZo/cVsHxFZiIoRArqzAJ96SlBllEVa0iqG7+9xQ2gSItn+UgCdECzc SAD33StmeFPfoB1Lozk9R90= =ltlv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 08:56:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F372F16A4CE for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 08:56:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from eddie.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F8E843D49 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 08:56:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@eddie.nitro.dk) Received: by eddie.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7FA8E119E9E; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:56:29 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:56:29 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Attila Nagy Message-ID: <20040917085628.GC49446@eddie.nitro.dk> References: <414AA24F.7020704@fsn.hu> <40449.199.201.236.2.1095410556.squirrel@199.201.236.2> <414AA4D4.4090009@fsn.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1ccMZA6j1vT5UqiK" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <414AA4D4.4090009@fsn.hu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVSROOT checkout? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 08:56:31 -0000 --1ccMZA6j1vT5UqiK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2004.09.17 10:48:20 +0200, Attila Nagy wrote: > Brad Davis wrote: > >try: CVSROOT=3Dfreebsdanoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs > >cvs co blah > >it says ssh only so leave out the :pserver: part. > I must be on crack, last time I tried, it asked for a password. >=20 > BTW, I still would like to know, how could I access the contents of the= =20 > "real" CVSROOT, which drives the development server. >=20 > Years ago it was available on the public servers, and those scripts were= =20 > really good (ACLs, etc). >=20 > So I'm looking for the cfg.pm, avail and other stuff which the=20 > committers sometimes hack on the cvs-all lists. >=20 > It seems that the structure somewhat changed and those scripts are only= =20 > on the main CVS server, not the public ones. It's because there really are 4 CVS repositories now, which are just exported as one though the cvsup mirror system. E.g. the CVSROOT for src/ is exported as CVSROOT-src/ . Try having a look at http://cvsweb.FreeBSD.org/ . --=20 Simon L. Nielsen FreeBSD Documentation Team --1ccMZA6j1vT5UqiK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBSqa8h9pcDSc1mlERAt6RAKCWzyxp8Qhiqx/Ye+5SGrx6HtulFACferPj JwceDPjxkRQcLw3YPT25dVQ= =Rgek -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --1ccMZA6j1vT5UqiK-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 09:02:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26BD916A4CE; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:02:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from people.fsn.hu (people.fsn.hu [195.228.252.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43BF343D49; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:02:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bra@fsn.hu) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by people.fsn.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8037E8448E; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 11:02:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from people.fsn.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (people.fsn.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 44097-02; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 11:01:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [172.16.129.72] (fw.axelero.hu [195.228.243.120]) by people.fsn.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6018F8448A; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 11:01:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <414AA7D2.5080704@fsn.hu> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 11:01:06 +0200 From: Attila Nagy User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040823 X-Accept-Language: hu, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Simon L. Nielsen" References: <414AA24F.7020704@fsn.hu> <40449.199.201.236.2.1095410556.squirrel@199.201.236.2> <414AA4D4.4090009@fsn.hu> <20040917085628.GC49446@eddie.nitro.dk> In-Reply-To: <20040917085628.GC49446@eddie.nitro.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at fsn.hu cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVSROOT checkout? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:02:09 -0000 Simon L. Nielsen wrote: > It's because there really are 4 CVS repositories now, which are just > exported as one though the cvsup mirror system. E.g. the CVSROOT for > src/ is exported as CVSROOT-src/ . > Try having a look at http://cvsweb.FreeBSD.org/ . Great, that's what I was looking for. Thank you! -- Attila Nagy e-mail: Attila.Nagy@fsn.hu Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 371 3536 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=download cell.: +3630 306 6758 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 09:11:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988CF16A4CE for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:11:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd.org.cn (dns3.freebsd.org.cn [61.129.66.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5130443D53 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:11:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from delphij@frontfree.net) Received: (qmail 4267 invoked by uid 0); 17 Sep 2004 09:07:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO beastie.frontfree.net) (219.239.98.7) by mail.freebsd.org.cn with SMTP; 17 Sep 2004 09:07:37 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.frontfree.net [127.0.0.1]) by beastie.frontfree.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D510131ADD; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 17:11:20 +0800 (CST) Received: from beastie.frontfree.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (beastie.frontfree.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04017-02; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 17:11:14 +0800 (CST) Received: by beastie.frontfree.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E28A2131ADC; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 17:11:13 +0800 (CST) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 17:11:13 +0800 From: Xin LI To: Brad Davis Message-ID: <20040917091113.GA1239@frontfree.net> References: <414AA24F.7020704@fsn.hu> <20040917084735.GA2141@frontfree.net> <40573.199.201.236.2.1095411107.squirrel@199.201.236.2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wac7ysb48OaltWcw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <40573.199.201.236.2.1095411107.squirrel@199.201.236.2> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-key-ID/Fingerprint: 0xCAEEB8C0 / 43B8 B703 B8DD 0231 B333 DC28 39FB 93A0 CAEE B8C0 X-GPG-Public-Key: http://www.delphij.net/delphij.asc X-Operating-System: FreeBSD beastie.frontfree.net 5.3-delphij FreeBSD 5.3-delphij #4: Mon Sep 13 12:44:05 CST 2004 delphij@beastie.frontfree.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BEASTIE i386 X-URL: http://www.delphij.net X-By: delphij@beastie.frontfree.net X-Location: Beijing, China X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at frontfree.net cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVSROOT checkout? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:11:23 -0000 --wac7ysb48OaltWcw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 02:51:47AM -0600, Brad Davis wrote: >=20 > On Fri, September 17, 2004 2:47 am, Xin LI said: > > I think you may want > > setenv CVSROOT :ext:anoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs > > > > Instead. This should work in this case. Note that with ssh you > > don't need a cvs login any more. > > > > Maybe we should document about how to use a SSH anoncvs? >=20 > Yeah, I'll add that to my list.. Hmm... and I'll catch up with it in the Simplified Chinese translation :-) Cheers, --=20 Xin LI http://www.delphij.net/ See complete headers for GPG key and other information. --wac7ysb48OaltWcw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBSqox/cVsHxFZiIoRAswNAJ4g4uiNfDeZ/Gumunhoy9EptN/ZcwCZAZA/ X7WZbayTU3il0l+/IyOSgXI= =tm5F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wac7ysb48OaltWcw-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 14:51:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD9A16A4CE for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 14:51:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp2.pochta.ru (smtp2.pochta.ru [81.211.64.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C356943D5A for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 14:51:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from demetry@hotbox.ru) Received: from mit (core.prodintorg.ru [83.217.10.136]) (author=demetry@hotbox.ru authenticated bits=0)i8GEpVxW018559 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 18:51:32 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from demetry@hotbox.ru) X-Author: demetry@hotbox.ru from mit (core.prodintorg.ru [83.217.10.136]) via Free Mail POCHTA.RU Message-ID: <000301c49bfc$a9646790$300aa8c0@Prointor.local> From: =?koi8-r?B?4s/M2NvBy8/XIOTNydTSyco=?= To: Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 18:51:23 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4942.400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4942.400 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 12:05:26 +0000 Subject: Document not found - http://www.freebsd.org/ru/releases/4.10R/announce.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 14:51:37 -0000 The file http://www.freebsd.org/ru/releases/4.10R/announce.html does not exist at this server. You are coming from http://www.freebsd.org/ru/projects/newbies.html. http://www.freebsd.org/ru/projects/newbies.html From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 12:30:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B38F16A4D2 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 12:30:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from volginfo.ru (ns.volginfo.ru [217.23.84.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26AA943D31 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 12:30:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from den@FreeBSD.org) Received: from FreeBSD.org (llp-13.vistcom.ru [217.23.84.68]) by volginfo.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AC6F200E; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 16:30:21 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <414AD8D7.9000400@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 16:30:15 +0400 From: Denis Peplin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040205 X-Accept-Language: ru, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?KOI8-R?Q?=E2=CF=CC=D8=DB=C1=CB=CF=D7_=E4=CD=C9=D4=D2=C9=CA?= References: <000301c49bfc$a9646790$300aa8c0@Prointor.local> In-Reply-To: <000301c49bfc$a9646790$300aa8c0@Prointor.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Document not found - http://www.freebsd.org/ru/releases/4.10R/announce.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 12:30:27 -0000 Hello! We have no translated announces yet. I will fix link. Thanks for reporting! =E2=CF=CC=D8=DB=C1=CB=CF=D7 =E4=CD=C9=D4=D2=C9=CA wrote: > The file=20 > http://www.freebsd.org/ru/releases/4.10R/announce.html=20 > does not exist at this server. You are coming from=20 > http://www.freebsd.org/ru/projects/newbies.html.=20 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 15:05:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E7A316A4CF for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:05:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd.org.cn (dns3.freebsd.org.cn [61.129.66.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0968843D31 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:05:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from delphij@frontfree.net) Received: (qmail 6060 invoked by uid 0); 17 Sep 2004 15:01:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO beastie.frontfree.net) (219.239.98.7) by mail.freebsd.org.cn with SMTP; 17 Sep 2004 15:01:53 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.frontfree.net [127.0.0.1]) by beastie.frontfree.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F3E131D2A for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 23:05:36 +0800 (CST) Received: from beastie.frontfree.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (beastie.frontfree.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02035-01 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 23:05:31 +0800 (CST) Received: by beastie.frontfree.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 89E41131BB8; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 23:05:30 +0800 (CST) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 23:05:30 +0800 From: Xin LI To: doc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20040917150530.GA3906@frontfree.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-key-ID/Fingerprint: 0xCAEEB8C0 / 43B8 B703 B8DD 0231 B333 DC28 39FB 93A0 CAEE B8C0 X-GPG-Public-Key: http://www.delphij.net/delphij.asc X-Operating-System: FreeBSD beastie.frontfree.net 5.3-delphij FreeBSD 5.3-delphij #4: Mon Sep 13 12:44:05 CST 2004 delphij@beastie.frontfree.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BEASTIE i386 X-URL: http://www.delphij.net X-By: delphij@beastie.frontfree.net X-Location: Beijing, China X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at frontfree.net Subject: [Please review] Structure of the Handbook's Simplified Chinese translation X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:05:42 -0000 --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear folks, Here is the Simplified Chinese translation source (SGML, etc) files for review. http://people.freebsd.org/~delphij/doc_CNPROJ_20040917.tbz (this is about 520KB) And an extracted version: http://people.freebsd.org/~delphij/doc/ A fully rendered version is available at: http://www.freebsd.org.cn/snap/doc/zh_CN.GB2312/books/handbook Please note that the extracted version is slightly different from the tarball, as it was exported with "-kb" option so $FreeBSD$ won't be expanded. Because the limitation of time there are still some sections that is not translated. This includes: Chapter 9. Printing, sections 4-7 Chapter 15. Mandatory Access Control Chapter 17. Vinum, sections 17.7 - 17.9 Chapter 22. E-mail, sections 22.8, 22.11-13 Chapter 23. Network Services, sections 23.3 - 23.10 I have proceeded Chapter 15 like the way that French translation has done, however, other sections are left as-is with the original English text. Should I remove the English text before committing them, or it's just ok to keep them as-is? Thanks in advance! Cheers, --=20 Xin LI http://www.delphij.net/ See complete headers for GPG key and other information. --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBSv06/cVsHxFZiIoRAtMeAJ9phJRpOpw3yOni88ZuAXOmuNYXNwCfeN18 889UYXKGO/7osORCMCNB0DE= =a4bj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 15:29:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28A0E16A4CE for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:29:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from volginfo.ru (ns.volginfo.ru [217.23.84.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F98243D48 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:29:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from den@FreeBSD.org) Received: from FreeBSD.org (llp-13.vistcom.ru [217.23.84.68]) by volginfo.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id D311D200E; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:29:12 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <414B02C1.4060705@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:29:05 +0400 From: Denis Peplin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040205 X-Accept-Language: ru, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Xin LI References: <20040917150530.GA3906@frontfree.net> In-Reply-To: <20040917150530.GA3906@frontfree.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [Please review] Structure of the Handbook's Simplified Chinese translation X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:29:10 -0000 Hello! Xin LI wrote: > I have proceeded Chapter 15 like the way that French translation has > done, however, other sections are left as-is with the original English > text. Should I remove the English text before committing them, or > it's just ok to keep them as-is? I vote for removing non-translated stuff and add something like Sect Name * Not translated yet. In Russian FDP we have one Handbook chapter, where this approach is used: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/handbook/linuxemu.html And it is possible to translate docs not only chapter-by-chapter, but section-by-section too. Your work will available without waiting while for all chapter to be translated. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 16:41:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF78116A4CE for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 16:41:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00F1C43D53 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 16:41:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (host5.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.229])i8HGf3jZ004192; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:41:04 +0300 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) i8HGeuK3057893; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:40:56 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost)i8HGeu14057892; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:40:56 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:40:55 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Xin LI Message-ID: <20040917164055.GA10754@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <20040917150530.GA3906@frontfree.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040917150530.GA3906@frontfree.net> cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Please review] Structure of the Handbook's Simplified Chinese translation X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 16:41:07 -0000 On 2004-09-17 23:05, Xin LI wrote: > Here is the Simplified Chinese translation source (SGML, etc) files for > review. [...] > And an extracted version: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~delphij/doc/ See below... > Should I remove the English text before committing them, or > it's just ok to keep them as-is? If you are referring to large chunks of English text that are left intact then yes, remove it before committing. Leaving the original text unchanged only to completely replace it a few weeks later is going to be a waste of disk space at the repository servers (and the CVSup mirrors, and the bandwidth used by those who use the mirrors, and the disk space of local copies of the CVS tree, etc). This will probably create a bit more work for you though, especially if the removed parts require "placeholders" to be put in the place of the original English text and filled later on. Fear not. I can help you with that, if you need any sort of assistance. 1. Wrapping the source of SGML documents. ----------------------------------------- Some of the SGML sources are not wrapped at all and have very long lines. I'm not sure if wrapping is at all possible in the encoding you use. I'm afraid my knowledge of Chinese is entirely non-existent. If wrapping is possible though, it would be nice to have. If not for any other reason to avoid having to scroll horizontally to the end of a HUGE line when viewing the CVS tree over the web (cvsweb.freebsd.org). 2. Commented out material in the Makefiles. ------------------------------------------- In some of the Makefiles you can trim the commented out stuff without causing problems to the build. For example here: http://people.freebsd.org/~delphij/doc/zh_CN.GB2312/books/Makefile The Makefile reads: # Original Revision: 1.12 # $FreeBSD: doc/zh_CN.GB2312/books/Makefile,v 1.1.1000.2 2004/08/07 04:33:46 delphij Exp $ #SUBDIR = arch-handbook #SUBDIR+= corp-net-guide #SUBDIR+= design-44bsd #SUBDIR+= developers-handbook #SUBDIR+= faq #SUBDIR+= fdp-primer SUBDIR = handbook #SUBDIR+= porters-handbook ROOT_SYMLINKS= handbook #faq DOC_PREFIX?= ${.CURDIR}/../.. .include "${DOC_PREFIX}/share/mk/doc.project.mk" Since the commented out stuff is not going to be used until much later on, when they relevant books have been translated, you should probably write this as: # Original Revision: 1.12 # $FreeBSD$ SUBDIR = handbook ROOT_SYMLINKS= handbook DOC_PREFIX?= ${.CURDIR}/../.. .include "${DOC_PREFIX}/share/mk/doc.project.mk" Similar changes can be done to most of the rest of the Makefiles in the extracted copy that I can see online now. > Thanks in advance! Great job! Keep up the good work :))) Regards, Giorgos From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 17:23:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 826D816A4EB for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 17:23:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 758CA43D2D for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 17:23:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8HHNpCt098468 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 17:23:51 GMT (envelope-from www@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8HHNpIZ098467 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 17:23:51 GMT (envelope-from www) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 17:23:51 GMT From: World Wide Web Owner Message-Id: <200409171723.i8HHNpIZ098467@www.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD web build failed on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 17:23:51 -0000 ===> docproj ===> news ===> news/1993 ===> news/1996 ===> news/1997 ===> news/1998 ===> news/1999 ===> news/2000 ===> news/2001 ===> news/2002 ===> news/status ===> advocacy ===> events Generating curdate.xml /usr/local/bin/xsltproc -o events.html /w/www/build/www/en/events/events.xsl /w/www/build/www/en/events/events.xml /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml events.html ===> events/2002 ===> events/2003 ===> FAQ ===> handbook ===> tutorials ===> internal /usr/bin/perl5 /w/www/build/www/en/internal/homepage.pl > homepage.inc /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' homepage.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/en/internal > homepage.html || (/bin/rm -f homepage.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml homepage.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) ===> java ===> java/dists ===> java/docs ===> java/links ===> copyright ===> search ===> projects ===> projects/busdma ===> projects/c99 ===> projects/gnats4 ===> projects/mips ===> projects/bigdisk /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' index.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/en/projects/bigdisk > index.html || (/bin/rm -f index.html && false) /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm:0:203:13:E: general entity "a.pjd" not defined and no default entity *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en/projects/bigdisk. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en/projects. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en. 6.05 real 1.17 user 1.61 sys From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 17:38:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE3416A4CE; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 17:38:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B9B943D48; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 17:38:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i8HHcUN2027966; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:38:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8HHcTuN027965; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:38:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:38:29 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: World Wide Web Owner Message-ID: <20040917173829.GB20843@abigail.blackend.org> References: <200409171723.i8HHNpIZ098467@www.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200409171723.i8HHNpIZ098467@www.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.10-PRERELEASE cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD web build failed on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 17:38:34 -0000 On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 05:23:51PM +0000, World Wide Web Owner wrote: [...] > /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm:0:203:13:E: general entity "a.pjd" not defined and no default entity > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /w/www/build/www/en/projects/bigdisk. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /w/www/build/www/en/projects. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /w/www/build/www/en. > 6.05 real 1.17 user 1.61 sys Fixed. Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 18:03:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473B816A4CE for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:03:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mato.luukku.com (mato.luukku.com [193.209.83.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0186C43D2D for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:03:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from koston@iki.fi) Received: from localhost (mta3-o.i.luukku.com [10.0.1.132]) by mta3-o.i.luukku.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988F0FF8D9 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 21:03:39 +0300 (EEST) Received: from norsu.kameli.org (ip213-185-39-27.laajakaista.mtv3.fi [213.185.39.27]) by mato.luukku.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6AF8E22EE88 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 21:03:39 +0300 (EEST) Received: by norsu.kameli.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 17 Sep 2004 21:03:12 +0000 From: "Atte Peltomaki" Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 21:03:12 +0000 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040917210312.GA70203@norsu.kameli.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: snd_*(4) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:03:41 -0000 Hi folks, I started working on the missing device specific sound driver manual pages some time ago. Since then, I've got a new job and so far it has taken pretty much all my time. I dunno if I'm able to finish any more pages before deadline, but I'm sure I won't be doing sound(4) itself. What I have now finished is in http://kameli.org/man/ so feel free to pick one as reference and write the rest :-) I think my brains are coming out my ears.. I'm going for the third new programming language now.. Atte Peltomaki http://kameli.org From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 18:30:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8855616A4CE for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:30:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D0D343D41 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:30:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8HIUBKo029272 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:30:11 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8HIUBpR029269; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:30:11 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:30:11 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200409171830.i8HIUBpR029269@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Joel Dahl Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D2E416A4D0 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:27:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av8-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av8-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C1343D4C for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:27:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joel@automatvapen.se) Received: by av8-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 8CE463836F; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 20:27:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.102]) by av8-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AEDD37EAB for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 20:27:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dude.automatvapen.se (t2o955p72.telia.com [195.252.52.192]) by smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 70A7F37E42 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 20:27:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: by dude.automatvapen.se (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 17 Sep 2004 20:27:45 +0200 Message-Id: <20040917182720.70A7F37E42@smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 20:27:45 +0200 From: "Joel Dahl" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/71826: [PATCH] Whitespace cleanup X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joel Dahl List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:30:11 -0000 >Number: 71826 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] Whitespace cleanup >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Sep 17 18:30:10 GMT 2004 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Joel Dahl >Release: FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD dude.automatvapen.se 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 #1: Sat Jul 10 16:52:28 CEST 2004 root@dude.automatvapen.se:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WORKSTATION i386 >Description: The attached patch fixes some whitespaces in doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/multimedia/chapter.sgml >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- whitespace.diff begins here --- --- chapter.sgml Fri Sep 17 19:45:34 2004 +++ new.chapter.sgml Fri Sep 17 20:18:48 2004 @@ -127,7 +127,7 @@ Setting Up the Sound Card - + Configuring the System @@ -836,7 +836,7 @@ Adaptor #0: "Savage Streams Engine" number of ports: 1 port base: 43 - operations supported: PutImage + operations supported: PutImage supported visuals: depth 16, visualID 0x22 depth 16, visualID 0x23 @@ -1247,7 +1247,7 @@ same time, takes some of the more fine-grained control away from the user. The xine video player performs best on XVideo interfaces. - + By default, xine player will start up in a graphical user interface. The menus can then be used to open a specific file: @@ -1327,7 +1327,7 @@ and use a few different applications. This section exists to give the reader pointers to such additional information. - The + The MPlayer documentation is very technically informative. These documents should probably be consulted by anyone wishing @@ -1427,7 +1427,7 @@ Alternatively, you may statically compile the support for the TV card in your kernel, in that case add the following lines to your kernel configuration: - + device bktr device iicbus device iicbb --- whitespace.diff ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 18:50:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7AF416A4CE for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:50:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E3343D45 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:50:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8HIoBVu030040 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:50:11 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8HIoBs7030039; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:50:11 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:50:11 GMT Message-Id: <200409171850.i8HIoBs7030039@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Marc Fonvieille Subject: Re: docs/71826: [PATCH] Whitespace cleanup X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marc Fonvieille List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:50:11 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/71826; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Marc Fonvieille To: Joel Dahl Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/71826: [PATCH] Whitespace cleanup Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 20:42:45 +0200 On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 08:27:45PM +0200, Joel Dahl wrote: > >Description: > The attached patch fixes some whitespaces in > doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/multimedia/chapter.sgml > This was often discussed in past (consult the freebsd-doc archives). With often the same result: when it's not "mandatory", we leave the things in this state. Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 19:07:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E73516A4CF; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:07:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from a.mail.sonic.net (a.mail.sonic.net [64.142.16.245]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7895C43D4C; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:07:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bmah@freebsd.org) Received: from tomcat.kitchenlab.org (adsl-64-142-31-107.sonic.net [64.142.31.107]) by a.mail.sonic.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8HJ7pwA006814 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 17 Sep 2004 12:07:51 -0700 Received: from tomcat.kitchenlab.org (localhost.kitchenlab.org [127.0.0.1]) by tomcat.kitchenlab.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i8HJ7oPQ067227; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 12:07:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@freebsd.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by tomcat.kitchenlab.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i8HJ7n7h067226; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 12:07:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: tomcat.kitchenlab.org: bmah set sender to bmah@freebsd.org using -f From: "Bruce A. Mah" To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1094426835.767.50.camel@localhost> References: <1094426835.767.50.camel@localhost> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-dV6F4/DnG9lrmeT8BTfS" Message-Id: <1095448068.36272.27.camel@tomcat.kitchenlab.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 12:07:49 -0700 cc: "Bruce A. Mah" cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: 5.3 Migration Guide X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:07:51 -0000 --=-dV6F4/DnG9lrmeT8BTfS Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 16:27, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > I've volunteered to rework the 5.X Early Adopters Guide into a Migration > Guide. The focus of this document is less about discouraging unwary > users and more about what kinds of changes users might encounter when > they move from 4.X to 5.X. I've committed this to FreeBSD CVS by dropping this on top of the old EAG on the RELENG_5 branch. Thanks to everyone who gave their feedback! Bruce. --=-dV6F4/DnG9lrmeT8BTfS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBSzYE2MoxcVugUsMRAjEwAJ9M5XY9uAos8iIfKXQly24ME4i3SwCgqFU3 rcZM1v4Vn4hJuPMgh1t4ZkM= =YpAG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-dV6F4/DnG9lrmeT8BTfS-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 19:20:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E340216A4D0 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:20:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B7F43D45 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:20:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8HJKVug036841 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:20:31 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8HJKVFU036840; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:20:31 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:20:31 GMT Message-Id: <200409171920.i8HJKVFU036840@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Joel Dahl Subject: Re: docs/71826: [PATCH] Whitespace cleanup X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joel Dahl List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:20:32 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/71826; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Joel Dahl To: Marc Fonvieille Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/71826: [PATCH] Whitespace cleanup Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 21:19:46 +0200 On Fri, 2004-09-17 at 20:42, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 08:27:45PM +0200, Joel Dahl wrote: > > >Description: > > The attached patch fixes some whitespaces in > > doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/multimedia/chapter.sgml > > > > This was often discussed in past (consult the freebsd-doc archives). > With often the same result: when it's not "mandatory", we leave the > things in this state. > > Marc Hm, yes, I just found a couple of threads where this was discussed. Joel From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 23:28:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B6D16A4CE for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 23:28:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from daemon.li (daemon.li [213.203.244.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1261343D3F for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 23:28:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josef@daemon.li) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by daemon.li with local; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 23:28:25 +0000 Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 23:28:25 +0000 From: Josef El-Rayes To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040917232825.GA22079@daemon.li> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=_daemon.li-22826-1095463705-0001-2" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Subject: [review] dutch handbook ready chapters X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 23:28:27 -0000 This is a MIME-formatted message. If you see this text it means that your E-mail software does not support MIME-formatted messages. --=_daemon.li-22826-1095463705-0001-2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi friends! the dutch documentation project is getting along quite fast and it is time to get the first chapters into cvs tree. i would be very happy if someone finds the time and checks through the handbook for style (and for our dutch speaking friends) and content issues. the following chapters are ready to get reviewed: -> introduction -> configuration and tuning -> booting process -> colophon -> preface -> book.sgml the rest is not 100% ready yet and will be replace by 'place holders' (indicating the work in progress). the source is available at [1], the built html version at[2]. thanks, josef [1] http://people.freebsd.org/~josef/stuff/nl_NL.ISO8859-1.tar.gz [2] http://people.freebsd.org/~josef/stuff/handbook/ --=20 Josef El-Rayes (__) Email: josef@daemon.li \\\'',)=20 Web: http://daemon.li/ \/ \ ^ FreeBSD: josef@FreeBSD.org .\._/_) --=_daemon.li-22826-1095463705-0001-2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iQEVAwUBQUtzGFnFItmnnbU8AQLz8Qf+MFaq9IgT9kV45frf5qemuPBIMNYVnT4v GYI75eCOW7fZw8UfkuDzktrqnfJhtJOEEkeS9i37CYoSURsqPZjaRH5KREBSkKpQ 9uqiPD7HVUsiRFMoZ2jUmDt5TL/HOAEc6YVNVv8welTK0zIykGatnhR5/S0o4X+X 1WSMaFmsEelUOcYzDhsETPSBNyg1nvZ5zDYxNKAEjc7XoaxaRbiPSYAYGnP0xDus h5AXvSlOfR+7yCUy1dY+zRSK4LVH0XWeaIS1FVF+TtQKAdm9h1ghoeb5RA4PqJv4 k/ufBVEzS73MQMznNYNpL1E8ZqYu9MfVa+u+7CmhvVtdB0/+6xBu2g== =3v+P -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=_daemon.li-22826-1095463705-0001-2-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 02:36:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2273216A4D0 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 02:36:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp3.ispsnet.net (smtp3.ispsnet.net [64.63.240.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8161143D3F for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 02:36:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owensby@access4less.net) Received: from access4less.net (unverified [4.152.69.203]) by smtp3.ispsnet.net (Joe 1) with ESMTP id 18921591 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 22:00:54 -0400 Message-ID: <414B9F0B.2080604@access4less.net> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 22:35:55 -0400 From: Dean F Owensby User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031208 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ipfw doc link dead? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 02:36:03 -0000 is it me, or it? i got a 400 bad request error: > http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/packet_filtering.html luck -O. -- Dean F Owensby Norfolk, Virginia USofA owensby@access4less.net w00t! From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 07:01:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C054416A4CF for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 07:01:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd.org.cn (dns3.freebsd.org.cn [61.129.66.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4976443D48 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 07:01:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from delphij@frontfree.net) Received: (qmail 14097 invoked by uid 0); 18 Sep 2004 06:58:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO beastie.frontfree.net) (219.239.98.7) by mail.freebsd.org.cn with SMTP; 18 Sep 2004 06:58:08 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.frontfree.net [127.0.0.1]) by beastie.frontfree.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED8813106A; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:01:51 +0800 (CST) Received: from beastie.frontfree.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (beastie.frontfree.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00717-07; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:01:46 +0800 (CST) Received: by beastie.frontfree.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0C5B2130FC5; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:01:45 +0800 (CST) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:01:45 +0800 From: Xin LI To: Denis Peplin Message-ID: <20040918070145.GA2847@frontfree.net> References: <20040917150530.GA3906@frontfree.net> <414B02C1.4060705@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <414B02C1.4060705@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-key-ID/Fingerprint: 0xCAEEB8C0 / 43B8 B703 B8DD 0231 B333 DC28 39FB 93A0 CAEE B8C0 X-GPG-Public-Key: http://www.delphij.net/delphij.asc X-Operating-System: FreeBSD beastie.frontfree.net 5.3-delphij FreeBSD 5.3-delphij #4: Mon Sep 13 12:44:05 CST 2004 delphij@beastie.frontfree.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BEASTIE i386 X-URL: http://www.delphij.net X-By: delphij@beastie.frontfree.net X-Location: Beijing, China X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at frontfree.net cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [Please review] Structure of the Handbook's Simplified Chinese translation X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 07:01:59 -0000 --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 07:29:05PM +0400, Denis Peplin wrote: > Hello! >=20 > I vote for removing non-translated stuff and add something like >=20 > > Sect Name * >=20 > Not translated yet. > >=20 > In Russian FDP we have one Handbook chapter, where this approach is > used: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/handbook/linuxemu.html >=20 > And it is possible to translate docs not only chapter-by-chapter, > but section-by-section too. Your work will available without waiting > while for all chapter to be translated. Ok, I'll do this. Cheers, --=20 Xin LI http://www.delphij.net/ See complete headers for GPG key and other information. --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBS91Z/cVsHxFZiIoRAo0FAKCAIoqA/DQqOtDSvnDKwg8OCT9eegCfV23a 5nODGipc4AVK1lJq2UiKrck= =9oVC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 07:09:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AABB16A4CE for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 07:09:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd.org.cn (dns3.freebsd.org.cn [61.129.66.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9126443D2F for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 07:09:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from delphij@frontfree.net) Received: (qmail 14162 invoked by uid 0); 18 Sep 2004 07:05:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO beastie.frontfree.net) (219.239.98.7) by mail.freebsd.org.cn with SMTP; 18 Sep 2004 07:05:51 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.frontfree.net [127.0.0.1]) by beastie.frontfree.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09857131225; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:09:35 +0800 (CST) Received: from beastie.frontfree.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (beastie.frontfree.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01245-02; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:09:29 +0800 (CST) Received: by beastie.frontfree.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A39951311E1; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:09:28 +0800 (CST) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:09:28 +0800 From: Xin LI To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20040918070928.GB2847@frontfree.net> References: <20040917150530.GA3906@frontfree.net> <20040917164055.GA10754@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="H+4ONPRPur6+Ovig" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040917164055.GA10754@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-key-ID/Fingerprint: 0xCAEEB8C0 / 43B8 B703 B8DD 0231 B333 DC28 39FB 93A0 CAEE B8C0 X-GPG-Public-Key: http://www.delphij.net/delphij.asc X-Operating-System: FreeBSD beastie.frontfree.net 5.3-delphij FreeBSD 5.3-delphij #4: Mon Sep 13 12:44:05 CST 2004 delphij@beastie.frontfree.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BEASTIE i386 X-URL: http://www.delphij.net X-By: delphij@beastie.frontfree.net X-Location: Beijing, China X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at frontfree.net cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Please review] Structure of the Handbook's Simplified Chinese translation X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 07:09:40 -0000 --H+4ONPRPur6+Ovig Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Giorgos, On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 07:40:55PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 > Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:40:55 +0300 > From: Giorgos Keramidas > To: Xin LI > Cc: doc@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: [Please review] Structure of the Handbook's Simplified Chine= se translation > In-Reply-To: <20040917150530.GA3906@frontfree.net> > X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at frontfree.net >=20 > On 2004-09-17 23:05, Xin LI wrote: > > Here is the Simplified Chinese translation source (SGML, etc) files for > > review. [...] > > And an extracted version: > > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~delphij/doc/ >=20 > If you are referring to large chunks of English text that are left > intact then yes, remove it before committing. Leaving the original text > unchanged only to completely replace it a few weeks later is going to be > a waste of disk space at the repository servers (and the CVSup mirrors, > and the bandwidth used by those who use the mirrors, and the disk space > of local copies of the CVS tree, etc). >=20 [...] > > Thanks in advance! >=20 > Great job! Keep up the good work :))) I would say "Thank you very much" for your suggestions. For the wrapping issue - I have noticed this too late as the newly translat= ed sections were mostly well-wrapped. I will manage to do the clean-ups as so= on as possible :-) Cheers, --=20 Xin LI http://www.delphij.net/ See complete headers for GPG key and other information. --H+4ONPRPur6+Ovig Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBS98o/cVsHxFZiIoRAlqtAJ0XFPYyPybE8j13yCFw8rDb2lDSNACcDP+a bA3v45XhybPjX47GNXjQI4c= =ibAD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --H+4ONPRPur6+Ovig-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 07:10:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4186F16A4D5 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 07:10:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DE2843D39 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 07:10:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8I7ALVd042066 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 07:10:21 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8I7ALXS042065; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 07:10:21 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 07:10:21 GMT Message-Id: <200409180710.i8I7ALXS042065@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Joel Dahl Subject: Re: docs/71826: [PATCH] Whitespace cleanup X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joel Dahl List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 07:10:22 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/71826; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Joel Dahl To: Marc Fonvieille Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/71826: [PATCH] Whitespace cleanup Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 09:05:42 +0200 While here, just one small note about "7.4.2.1.1 Building MPlayer": "However, if you need the XviD codec, you have to specify the WITH_XVID option in the command line." Should be: "However, if you need the XviD codec, you have to specify the WITH_XVID option on the command line." Joel From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 07:14:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198B716A4CE for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 07:14:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.eos.ocn.ne.jp (eos.ocn.ne.jp [222.146.51.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF5A243D1F for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 07:14:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from delta.allbsd.org (p43012-adsao12honb4-acca.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp [219.161.232.12]) by smtp.eos.ocn.ne.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB5AC1B8E for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 16:14:21 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (alph.allbsd.org [192.168.0.10]) by delta.allbsd.org (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i8I7E7bT093954 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 16:14:07 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 16:13:09 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20040918.161309.35654157.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> To: doc@FreeBSD.org From: Hiroki Sato X-PGPkey-fingerprint: BDB3 443F A5DD B3D0 A530 FFD7 4F2C D3D8 2793 CF2D X-Mailer: Mew version 4.0.68 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="--Security_Multipart(Sat_Sep_18_16_13_09_2004_323)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: HEADS UP: doc/ slush begins X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 07:14:23 -0000 ----Security_Multipart(Sat_Sep_18_16_13_09_2004_323)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, As announced, the doc/ tree is now in a slush. Please postpone all non-essential changes until after the doc/ tree is tagged (currently scheduled for 24 September, 2004). While this is not a real freeze, if you need to commit a relatively large change to fix or improve our documentation for 5.3-RELEASE, please put a note for translators onto your commit log. Thank you for your help. -- | Hiroki SATO ----Security_Multipart(Sat_Sep_18_16_13_09_2004_323)-- Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBS+AITyzT2CeTzy0RAqs7AKCYvZbg2HaNrnCJkMiIaSftYo1+cwCglMuR FBOkkTv4PByHsnkgkNzYiu8= =Hg/C -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----Security_Multipart(Sat_Sep_18_16_13_09_2004_323)---- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 07:40:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 037F116A4CF for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 07:40:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4E9F43D54 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 07:40:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8I7ePVc042879 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 07:40:25 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8I7ePS9042878; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 07:40:25 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 07:40:25 GMT Message-Id: <200409180740.i8I7ePS9042878@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Marc Fonvieille Subject: Re: docs/71826: [PATCH] Whitespace cleanup X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marc Fonvieille List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 07:40:26 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/71826; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Marc Fonvieille To: Joel Dahl Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/71826: [PATCH] Whitespace cleanup Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 09:34:21 +0200 On Sat, Sep 18, 2004 at 09:05:42AM +0200, Joel Dahl wrote: > While here, just one small note about "7.4.2.1.1 Building MPlayer": > > "However, if you need the XviD codec, you have to specify the WITH_XVID > option in the command line." > > Should be: > > "However, if you need the XviD codec, you have to specify the WITH_XVID > option on the command line." > > Well Please could you use the right place for that? You added in the audit trail something which has nothing to do with the PR. And btw I'm not guilty of the whitespaces :)) Please try to use the PR followup in the right way, Thanks. Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 07:41:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 506C916A4CE for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 07:41:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88EA743D2F for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 07:41:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i8I7fpvC061049; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 09:41:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8I7fpZR061048; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 09:41:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 09:41:51 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Joel Dahl Message-ID: <20040918074151.GB60807@abigail.blackend.org> References: <200409180710.i8I7ALXS042065@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200409180710.i8I7ALXS042065@freefall.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.10-PRERELEASE cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/71826: [PATCH] Whitespace cleanup X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 07:41:54 -0000 On Sat, Sep 18, 2004 at 07:10:21AM +0000, Joel Dahl wrote: > The following reply was made to PR docs/71826; it has been noted by GNATS. > > From: Joel Dahl > To: Marc Fonvieille > Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org > Subject: Re: docs/71826: [PATCH] Whitespace cleanup > Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 09:05:42 +0200 > > While here, just one small note about "7.4.2.1.1 Building MPlayer": > > "However, if you need the XviD codec, you have to specify the WITH_XVID > option in the command line." > > Should be: > > "However, if you need the XviD codec, you have to specify the WITH_XVID > option on the command line." > It's "in", it follows "Additionally, a number of options can be specified in the make command line,..." scheme. Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 08:42:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E948A16A4CE for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 08:42:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av10-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (av10-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD67E43D49 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 08:42:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joel@automatvapen.se) Received: by av10-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 84CC4381D4; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 10:42:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.92]) by av10-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 724D737FF3 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 10:42:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [81.225.221.22] (t9o55p22.telia.com [81.225.221.22]) by smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9EC337E43 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 10:42:56 +0200 (CEST) From: Joel Dahl To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1095497003.16701.64.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 10:43:23 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Xorg and X.org used in documentation X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 08:42:59 -0000 Which is correct? We use both in our docs, for example, chapter 5 in the handbook (The X Window System) uses Xorg, but chapter 11 in the faq (The X Window System and Virtual Consoles) uses X.org. As a reference, http://www.x.org seems to prefer X.org. Joel From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 09:29:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6610616A4CE for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 09:29:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B5EC43D31 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 09:29:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i8I9T6WY062358; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 11:29:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8I9T6Cx062357; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 11:29:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 11:29:05 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Joel Dahl Message-ID: <20040918092905.GC60807@abigail.blackend.org> References: <1095497003.16701.64.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1095497003.16701.64.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.10-PRERELEASE cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Xorg and X.org used in documentation X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 09:29:14 -0000 On Sat, Sep 18, 2004 at 10:43:23AM +0200, Joel Dahl wrote: > Which is correct? We use both in our docs, for example, chapter 5 in the > handbook (The X Window System) uses Xorg, but chapter 11 in the faq (The > X Window System and Virtual Consoles) uses X.org. > > As a reference, http://www.x.org seems to prefer X.org. > As written on the mentioned site, the X server of the X.Org Foundation is called Xorg (for example see http://freedesktop.org/~xorg/X11R6.7.0/doc/RELNOTES3.html#4 or one of my mail posted in august regarding the 5.3 TODO list). I defined an entity to prevent that confusion. In the FAQ some spelling are correct some others not. Even some X.Org docs are not consistent on this point but they do not use "X.org". Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 10:52:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0426E16A4CE; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 10:52:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from redqueen.elvandar.org (cust.94.120.adsl.cistron.nl [195.64.94.120]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B99D843D58; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 10:52:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from remko@elvandar.org) Received: from [10.0.2.122] (nimrod.elvandar.intranet [10.0.2.122]) by redqueen.elvandar.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA30A10685E; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:52:32 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <414C1371.5040400@elvandar.org> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:52:33 +0200 From: Remko Lodder X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Xin LI References: <20040917150530.GA3906@frontfree.net> <414B02C1.4060705@FreeBSD.org> <20040918070145.GA2847@frontfree.net> In-Reply-To: <20040918070145.GA2847@frontfree.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at elvandar.org cc: Denis Peplin cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [Please review] Structure of the Handbook's Simplified Chinese translation X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 10:52:36 -0000 Xin LI wrote: > On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 07:29:05PM +0400, Denis Peplin wrote: > >>Hello! >> >>I vote for removing non-translated stuff and add something like >> >> >> Sect Name * >> >> Not translated yet. >> >> >>In Russian FDP we have one Handbook chapter, where this approach is >>used: >>http://www.freebsd.org/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/handbook/linuxemu.html >> >>And it is possible to translate docs not only chapter-by-chapter, >>but section-by-section too. Your work will available without waiting >>while for all chapter to be translated. > > > Ok, I'll do this. > > Cheers, Hi, Perhaps we need to think of a consistent matter for use-ing placeholders. Currently the Dutch project, had generated placeholders like the German project does. * <translated title> Where the para thingy's are only used when the section does not have subsections (for example if a sect1 has a sect2 and no sect3, there will be a in the sect2 statement). But as we continue with this, it seems logically to me that we do that all in the same way, so there can be a topic then that says: All untranslated chapters are marked as (whatever we decide). Instead of, for this project all things are * bla and for this project it's bla * Any thoughts? :-) Cheers -- Kind regards, Remko Lodder |remko@elvandar.org Reporter DSINet |remko@dsinet.org Projectleader Mostly-Harmless |remko@mostly-harmless.nl From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 11:30:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C005B16A4CF for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 11:30:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA0F43D1D for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 11:30:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8IBUEKf078352 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 11:30:14 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8IBUEvx078351; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 11:30:14 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 11:30:14 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200409181130.i8IBUEvx078351@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Joel Dahl Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9FE516A4CE for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 11:26:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av6-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av6-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 512A243D1F for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 11:26:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joel@automatvapen.se) Received: by av6-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 7BF2038256; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 13:26:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.101]) by av6-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C3537E9B for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 13:26:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dude.automatvapen.se (t4o955p13.telia.com [195.252.53.133]) by smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with SMTP id DD33537E44 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 13:26:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: by dude.automatvapen.se (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 18 Sep 2004 13:26:50 +0200 Message-Id: <20040918112622.DD33537E44@smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 13:26:50 +0200 From: "Joel Dahl" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/71862: [PATCH] FAQ update: Use entity &xorg; instead of X.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joel Dahl List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 11:30:14 -0000 >Number: 71862 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] FAQ update: Use entity &xorg; instead of X.org >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Sep 18 11:30:14 GMT 2004 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Joel Dahl >Release: FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD dude.automatvapen.se 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 #1: Sat Jul 10 16:52:28 CEST 2004 root@dude.automatvapen.se:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WORKSTATION i386 >Description: The X server from The X Foundation is called Xorg. Therefore, use the entity &xorg; added by blackend instead of X.org in the FAQ. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- xorg.diff begins here --- --- book.sgml Fri Sep 17 19:45:34 2004 +++ new.book.sgml Sat Sep 18 13:06:17 2004 @@ -7169,8 +7169,9 @@ The X Window System is the most widely available windowing system capable of running on &unix; or &unix; like systems, including - &os;. X.org administers - the X protocol + &os;. The X.Org + Foundation administers the X protocol standards. The current release of the specification is 11.6, so you will often see references shortened to X11R6 or even just X11. @@ -7196,7 +7197,7 @@ &xfree86; which is maintained by The XFree86 Project, Inc. This software was installed by default on - &os; versions up until 4.10 and 5.2. Although X.org + &os; versions up until 4.10 and 5.2. Although &xorg; itself maintained an implementation during that time period, it was basically only provided as a reference platform, as it had suffered greatly from bitrot over @@ -7206,7 +7207,7 @@ that project over issues including the pace of code changes, future directions, and interpersonal conflicts, and are now contributing - code directly to X.org instead. At that time, X.org updated its + code directly to &xorg; instead. At that time, &xorg; updated its source tree to the last &xfree86; release before its subsequent licensing change (XFree86 version 4.3.99.903), incorporated many changes that had previously been maintained separately, @@ -7217,11 +7218,11 @@ offload more work onto the graphics cards (with the goal of increased performance) and make it more modular (with the goal of increased maintainability, and thus faster - releases as well as easier configuration). X.org intends to + releases as well as easier configuration). &xorg; intends to incorporate the freedesktop.org changes in its future releases. As of July 2004, in &os.current;, - &xfree86; has been replaced with X.org as the default + &xfree86; has been replaced with &xorg; as the default implementation. The &xfree86; ports (x11/XFree86-4 and subports) remain in the ports collection and are still @@ -7243,8 +7244,8 @@ The following paragraphs refer to the &xfree86; implementation, but most should also be applicable - to the X.org implementation as well. While the default - configuration filename for the X.org implementation is + to the &xorg; implementation as well. While the default + configuration filename for the &xorg; implementation is xorg.conf, it will search for XF86Config if it cannot find it. @@ -7253,11 +7254,11 @@ - Will my existing applications run with the X.org suite? + Will my existing applications run with the &xorg; suite? - The X.org software is written to the same X11R6 specification + The &xorg; software is written to the same X11R6 specification that &xfree86; is, so basic applications should work unchanged. A few lesser-used protocols have been deprecated (XIE, PEX, and @@ -7283,11 +7284,11 @@ - Why did &os; choose to go with the X.org ports by default? + Why did &os; choose to go with the &xorg; ports by default? - The X.org developers claim that their goal is to release + The &xorg; developers claim that their goal is to release more often and incorporate new features more quickly. If they are able to do so, this will be very attractive. Also, their software still uses the traditional X license, while &xfree86; --- xorg.diff ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 12:24:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6982E16A4CE for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:24:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from redqueen.elvandar.org (cust.94.120.adsl.cistron.nl [195.64.94.120]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CABEB43D1F for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:24:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from remko@elvandar.org) Received: from [10.0.2.122] (nimrod.elvandar.intranet [10.0.2.122]) by redqueen.elvandar.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C5C910685E for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 14:24:53 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <414C2915.8000309@elvandar.org> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 14:24:53 +0200 From: Remko Lodder X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at elvandar.org Subject: Question regarding 'placeholders' (Translations) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:24:56 -0000 Hi there, I asked in a reply to Xin Li and Denis Peplin, i want to define a correct and global agreement on how we as translation teams should use placeholders. The Dutch Project follows the style of the German Project, while the Russian Project does that in another way. How do the German/Dutch projects handle the placeholders? Like this: * Translated title How does the Russian Project handle this? Translated title * Can we please decide what works best, and use that globally? I added a little thing to my personal fdp-primer regarding this, since i think it should also be documented. Since this is my first try in writing such a thing, i would like you (doc team) to give comments on it ;) The diff is below: (Ofcourse the correct syntax should reflect whatever we agree upon). Thanks, Remko (Dutch Project) --- chapter_orig.sgml Sat Aug 14 14:35:33 2004 +++ chapter.sgml Sat Sep 18 14:20:02 2004 @@ -442,6 +442,32 @@ --> + + + + How should i handle untranslated documents when i want to + import them into the &os; cvs tree? + + + + If you have untranslated documents, or documents which are + not yet reviewed, you should use so called + placeholders. The correct syntax for using + those placeholders is: + + <sect1> + <title>* Translated title</title> + + <para></para> + </sect1> + + The para statements are used to fill the sections. If + they do not exist it will result in a failing build. If + you have a sect2 or deeper statement in your chapter, please + put the para statements in the deepest section. + + + -- Kind regards, Remko Lodder |remko@elvandar.org Reporter DSINet |remko@dsinet.org Projectleader Mostly-Harmless |remko@mostly-harmless.nl From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 12:48:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02CCF16A4CE; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:48:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from daemon.li (daemon.li [213.203.244.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9857143D5D; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:48:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josef@daemon.li) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by daemon.li with local; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:47:59 +0000 Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:47:59 +0000 From: Josef El-Rayes To: Remko Lodder Message-ID: <20040918124759.GA25840@daemon.li> References: <20040917150530.GA3906@frontfree.net> <414B02C1.4060705@FreeBSD.org> <20040918070145.GA2847@frontfree.net> <414C1371.5040400@elvandar.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=_daemon.li-25850-1095511679-0001-2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <414C1371.5040400@elvandar.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i cc: Denis Peplin cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [Please review] Structure of the Handbook's Simplified Chinese translation X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:48:01 -0000 This is a MIME-formatted message. If you see this text it means that your E-mail software does not support MIME-formatted messages. --=_daemon.li-25850-1095511679-0001-2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Remko Lodder : > Perhaps we need to think of a consistent matter for use-ing=20 > placeholders. [...] > But as we continue with this, it seems logically to me that we=20 > do that > all in the same way thats a good idea, i think we should define a default placeholder look and put it into the FDP. greets, josef --=20 Josef El-Rayes (__) Email: josef@daemon.li \\\'',)=20 Web: http://daemon.li/ \/ \ ^ FreeBSD: josef@FreeBSD.org .\._/_) --=_daemon.li-25850-1095511679-0001-2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iQEVAwUBQUwuflnFItmnnbU8AQIw1AgAnHWIwBZeCxR3871e4/3l9GUIja6zl6Z/ XsJWnSFwhXGIoApuuzxTVEJX0pTLJCJt6nd7EkD/WagPAqHgAXbTPL3jW4RWsomT WO2FaDqW8vJvl92hoZuiYy9srzG+Ub4fkdE8xAfucf4nbfkjoYvhkvjDajILw0u5 SQSaqBik5Z7G5gEsJ3nUfRhfoCFKKERDUhHo4E/Om0fGCIhjhJcR9Fcmn2jVKpk3 nPR8HrFA5sw26Po8/PLC61C9FfiazjEPMeoh9XaKjYMrQVu+lGsrYTGDSRK2WKiU sgeuUKJ0UN+bkYz+vkwwTGGUAiQ3BCI3p9BvZy66uqop0m+t8GLdhg== =frMq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=_daemon.li-25850-1095511679-0001-2-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 12:51:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A4E16A4CE for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:51:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from daemon.li (daemon.li [213.203.244.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797D043D5D for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:51:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josef@daemon.li) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by daemon.li with local; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:51:01 +0000 Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:51:01 +0000 From: Josef El-Rayes To: Remko Lodder Message-ID: <20040918125101.GB25840@daemon.li> References: <414C2915.8000309@elvandar.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=_daemon.li-25907-1095511861-0001-2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <414C2915.8000309@elvandar.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question regarding 'placeholders' (Translations) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:51:03 -0000 This is a MIME-formatted message. If you see this text it means that your E-mail software does not support MIME-formatted messages. --=_daemon.li-25907-1095511861-0001-2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Remko Lodder : > How do the German/Dutch projects handle the placeholders? >=20 > Like this: >=20 > > * Translated title >=20 > > >=20 > How does the Russian Project handle this? >=20 > > Translated title * >=20 > > >=20 there should also be a note on each placeholder that says 'please note this page is not translated yet, for the original english version please check at ... if you like to help out translating this chapter please contact ' something like that. greets, josef --=20 Josef El-Rayes (__) Email: josef@daemon.li \\\'',)=20 Web: http://daemon.li/ \/ \ ^ FreeBSD: josef@FreeBSD.org .\._/_) --=_daemon.li-25907-1095511861-0001-2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iQEVAwUBQUwvNFnFItmnnbU8AQKMaQgAiXUyBEcNGnmQJjqtC9Zgc9heUnhJAq88 SuRdxTOiu4AWjnW19/NLNU1eaBaVrU1Aikh4kkKsk83SJebuvHJO746eJ63Y8fY9 nGUWyOZjSFnIkE6MPbiOT+YIrPvP0l6O4fOxaWHGvW+sMPU9LjZCpAVvaR/Un+IB jzpmZxSC4d85CnEF/Au/5Vw7R+1DMa64Tx+A4Cynia7Ywbu/OliknqDrcw1ye+MR 7DKQybH9wF3dcE1zEOiydtf0+8sq4yUQ56psAARktgkG9+L/i/zCv+CNrOnrf1Do +XWdbAt7K3Dc9V+dL6bDXgB2idcaSvkWYqMU4t/YASdPxzeFFM6Hsw== =eG0u -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=_daemon.li-25907-1095511861-0001-2-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 13:00:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C6E116A4CE; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 13:00:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from redqueen.elvandar.org (cust.94.120.adsl.cistron.nl [195.64.94.120]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3880C43D48; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 13:00:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from remko@elvandar.org) Received: from [10.0.2.122] (nimrod.elvandar.intranet [10.0.2.122]) by redqueen.elvandar.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F2510685E; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:00:46 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <414C317F.6010607@elvandar.org> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:00:47 +0200 From: Remko Lodder X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Josef El-Rayes References: <414C2915.8000309@elvandar.org> <20040918125101.GB25840@daemon.li> In-Reply-To: <20040918125101.GB25840@daemon.li> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at elvandar.org cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question regarding 'placeholders' (Translations) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 13:00:51 -0000 Josef El-Rayes wrote: > there should also be a note on each placeholder that says > 'please note this page is not translated yet, for the original > english version please check at ... > if you like to help out translating this chapter please > contact ' > > something like that. > > greets, josef So that would make it something like this? Note that the wrapping perhaps 'fscks' the diff output Only i did not mention the 'original version can be found here' thingy since there must be an entity for that or something which makes that easier to refer to.. or am i incorrect? --- chapter_orig.sgml Sat Aug 14 14:35:33 2004 +++ chapter.sgml Sat Sep 18 14:59:29 2004 @@ -442,6 +442,33 @@ --> + + + + How should i handle untranslated documents when i want to + import them into the &os; cvs tree? + + + + If you have untranslated documents, or documents which are + not yet reviewed, you should use so called + placeholders. The correct syntax for using + those placeholders is: + + <sect1> + <title>* Translated title</title> + + <para>Translated: This document is not yet translated, if you want to help out please contact + the responsible person 'emailaddr'</para> + </sect1> + + The para statements are used to fill the sections. If + they do not exist it will result in a failing build. If + you have a sect2 or deeper statement in your chapter, please + put the para statements in the deepest section. + + + -- Kind regards, Remko Lodder |remko@elvandar.org Reporter DSINet |remko@dsinet.org Projectleader Mostly-Harmless |remko@mostly-harmless.nl From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 13:32:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0413D16A4E8 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 13:32:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC0FF43D46 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 13:32:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i8IDWmch065102; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:32:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8IDWmAQ065101; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:32:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:32:47 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Remko Lodder Message-ID: <20040918133247.GD60807@abigail.blackend.org> References: <414C2915.8000309@elvandar.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <414C2915.8000309@elvandar.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.10-PRERELEASE cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question regarding 'placeholders' (Translations) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 13:32:59 -0000 On Sat, Sep 18, 2004 at 02:24:53PM +0200, Remko Lodder wrote: > Hi there, > > I asked in a reply to Xin Li and Denis Peplin, i want to define > a correct and global agreement on how we as translation teams > should use placeholders. > > The Dutch Project follows the style of the German Project, > while the Russian Project does that in another way. > > How do the German/Dutch projects handle the placeholders? > > Like this: > > > * Translated title > > > > > How does the Russian Project handle this? > > > Translated title * > > > > [...] I don't think it's a good idea. We should let translation teams use what they think is the best solution. And a translation team could even decide to just not add skeleton for non-translated section/chapter. And from my point of view Translated title * or * Translated title are just not good cause confusing and not enough clear when you look at the TOC. I really think we should let teams make the choice on this point. Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 13:37:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F186D16A4CE for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 13:37:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FAFD43D45 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 13:37:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i8IDb0sq065186; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:37:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8IDb06r065185; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:37:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:36:59 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040918133659.GE60807@abigail.blackend.org> References: <414C2915.8000309@elvandar.org> <20040918133247.GD60807@abigail.blackend.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040918133247.GD60807@abigail.blackend.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.10-PRERELEASE cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question regarding 'placeholders' (Translations) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 13:37:03 -0000 On Sat, Sep 18, 2004 at 03:32:47PM +0200, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > > I don't think it's a good idea. We should let translation teams use > what they think is the best solution. And a translation team could even > decide to just not add skeleton for non-translated section/chapter. > [...] I remember I added chapter skeletons in the French Handbook only to deal with some xref to allow the build without the pain of having to change the xref id. Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 14:30:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7790116A4FE; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 14:30:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from daemon.li (daemon.li [213.203.244.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AE9043D31; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 14:30:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josef@daemon.li) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by daemon.li with local; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 14:30:37 +0000 Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 14:30:37 +0000 From: Josef El-Rayes To: Marc Fonvieille Message-ID: <20040918143037.GC25840@daemon.li> References: <414C2915.8000309@elvandar.org> <20040918133247.GD60807@abigail.blackend.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <20040918133247.GD60807@abigail.blackend.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question regarding 'placeholders' (Translations) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 14:30:39 -0000 Marc Fonvieille : > I don't think it's a good idea. We should let translation teams use > what they think is the best solution. And a translation team could even > decide to just not add skeleton for non-translated section/chapter. and why? i dont see any argument that speaks against consistency. -josef --=20 Josef El-Rayes (__) Email: josef@daemon.li \\\'',)=20 Web: http://daemon.li/ \/ \ ^ FreeBSD: josef@FreeBSD.org .\._/_) From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 15:23:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9915316A4CE; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:23:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E41B43D31; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:23:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i8IFNjPT066258; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 17:23:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8IFNiSG066257; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 17:23:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 17:23:44 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Josef El-Rayes Message-ID: <20040918152344.GF60807@abigail.blackend.org> References: <414C2915.8000309@elvandar.org> <20040918133247.GD60807@abigail.blackend.org> <20040918143037.GC25840@daemon.li> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040918143037.GC25840@daemon.li> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.10-PRERELEASE cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Question regarding 'placeholders' (Translations) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:23:50 -0000 On Sat, Sep 18, 2004 at 02:30:37PM +0000, Josef El-Rayes wrote: > Marc Fonvieille : > > I don't think it's a good idea. We should let translation teams use > > what they think is the best solution. And a translation team could even > > decide to just not add skeleton for non-translated section/chapter. > > and why? i dont see any argument that speaks against consistency. > One argument was in the part you did not quote :) With the "placeholders" you want to use, in the TOC you cannot see easily what things are not translated. And as I said translation teams may want to use their own scheme, do not forget each language has its rules, preferences, uses etc. It has nothing to do with consistency. The French team uses Non-translated title ** Traduction en Cours ** for the Handbook, which is easy to note in a TOC, etc. It's a choice, easy to read and to understand, easier than * Translated title. But if people want to use something else for their translation, it's their choice. And about skeletons, I don't see why people would have to add 20 chapters skeletons when they are not needed, it would just be a waste of space. But if the translators want to add or don't want to add them, let them free to decide their way, and define their own rules. There are enough important rules to respect, this one would not be a good one and some teams would not follow it... The original problem was just the fact the english text of non-translated part should not kept for obvious reason of space/bandwidth space. *This* point should be mentioned somewhere, if it's not already done. Then people are free to use the way they prefer: skeletons or not, custom placeholders etc. Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 09:21:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 516BF16A4CE for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 09:21:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from is.mail2000.com.tw (info.mail2000.com.tw [210.200.181.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3AAA243D1F for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 09:21:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from semin@mail2000.com.tw) Received: from 210.200.181.213V3.20M(44309:0:AUTH_RELAY) (envelope-from ); Sat, 18 Sep 2004 17:21:41 +0800 (CST) Received: By OpenMail Mailer;Sat, 18 Sep 2004 17:21:38 +0800 (CST) From: "semin@NZ" Message-ID: <1095499298.16446.semin@mail2000.com.tw> To: doc@FreeBSD.org Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 17:21:38 +0800 (CST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:36:03 +0000 Subject: Dead links in FAQ document (Commercial high-performance X servers) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: semin@mail2000.com.tw List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 09:21:44 -0000 In=20the=20FAQ=20document:=20'6.4.=20Are=20there=20any=20commercial=20high-p= erformance=20X=20servers?'=20it=20mentioned: ############################################################################= ### # #Yes,=20Xi=20Graphics=20and=20Metro=20Link=20sell=20Accelerated-X=20product=20= for=20FreeBSD=20and=20other=20#Intel=20based=20systems. # ############################################################################= ### But=20actually,=20the=20'Metro=20Link'=20has=20been=20deadlink;=20on=20the=20= other=20hand,=20'Xi=20Graphics'=20won't=20provide=20the=20FreeBSD=20version=20= has=20been=20dropped=20from=20standard=20list.(http://www.xig.com/Pages/Summ= it/OSsupport.html) Best=20regards, Sam From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 14:23:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC3E16A4CE for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 14:23:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58CA843D46 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 14:23:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Steve@lexi.net.au) Received: from lexi.net.au (c211-28-196-114.thoms2.vic.optusnet.com.au [211.28.196.114])i8IENPv8018579 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:23:27 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:26:27 +1000 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Message-ID: <3502912D8AAD14418D405EE4BE6BB359E450@nemesis.lexi.net.au> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Document not found - http://www.freebsd.org/doc/IT.ISO8859-15/books/handbook/userppp.html Thread-Index: AcSdi3tcy3pWsRCqRmWp3WJ1ikMFRA== From: "Steve Pyrros" To: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:36:03 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Document not found - http://www.freebsd.org/doc/IT.ISO8859-15/books/handbook/userppp.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 14:23:29 -0000 Why are all the searches for ppp in Italian??????????? =20 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 16:16:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C56316A4CE for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 16:16:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF68343D46 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 16:16:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Sat, 18 Sep 2004 11:16:36 -0500 Message-ID: <414C5F62.60109@daleco.biz> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 11:16:34 -0500 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040712 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Pyrros References: <3502912D8AAD14418D405EE4BE6BB359E450@nemesis.lexi.net.au> In-Reply-To: <3502912D8AAD14418D405EE4BE6BB359E450@nemesis.lexi.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Sep 2004 16:16:37.0155 (UTC) FILETIME=[DF630730:01C49D9A] cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Document not found - http://www.freebsd.org/doc/IT.ISO8859-15/books/handbook/userppp.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 16:16:37 -0000 Steve Pyrros wrote: >Why are all the searches for ppp in Italian??????????? > > Well, the URL in your message subject is referencing the Italian translation of the FreeBSD Handbook. Would http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/userppp.html work better for you? Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 16:24:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C226016A4CE; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 16:24:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from valentine.liquidneon.com (valentine.liquidneon.com [216.38.206.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8BA43D39; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 16:24:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from so14k@so14k.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by valentine.liquidneon.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9296E7F0; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 10:24:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from valentine.liquidneon.com ([216.38.206.180]) by localhost (valentine.liquidneon.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10684-02; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 10:24:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from webmail.liquidneon.com (valentine.liquidneon.com [216.38.206.180]) by valentine.liquidneon.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F17C2796; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 10:24:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 199.201.236.2 (SquirrelMail authenticated user so14k@so14k.com); by webmail.liquidneon.com with HTTP; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 10:24:19 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <10215.199.201.236.2.1095524659.squirrel@199.201.236.2> In-Reply-To: <20040918.161309.35654157.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> References: <20040918.161309.35654157.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 10:24:19 -0600 (MDT) From: "Brad Davis" To: "Hiroki Sato" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at liquidneon.com cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: doc/ slush begins X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 16:24:20 -0000 On Sat, September 18, 2004 1:13 am, Hiroki Sato said: > Hi all, > > As announced, the doc/ tree is now in a slush. Please postpone all > non-essential changes until after the doc/ tree is tagged (currently > scheduled for 24 September, 2004). > > While this is not a real freeze, if you need to commit a relatively > large change to fix or improve our documentation for 5.3-RELEASE, > please put a note for translators onto your commit log. Hi, I have a complete rewrite of the Firewall section. I have been trying to work with Tom, but I think he is busy doing other stuff. I would like to see this make it in before the 5.3 release. If anyone is interested I have patches and the HTML output here: http://freebsd.so14k.com/firewall/ It needs to be merged against the current version of the handbook, but that shouldn't be too hard. Regards, Brad Davis From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 20:26:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F5916A4CF; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 20:26:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC0143D45; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 20:26:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (64-144-75-99.client.dsl.net [64.144.75.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by pittgoth.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8IKQgex003040 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 18 Sep 2004 16:26:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 16:27:18 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: "Brad Davis" Message-Id: <20040918162718.50dce0f1@localhost> In-Reply-To: <10215.199.201.236.2.1095524659.squirrel@199.201.236.2> References: <20040918.161309.35654157.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> <10215.199.201.236.2.1095524659.squirrel@199.201.236.2> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Hiroki Sato cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: doc/ slush begins X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 20:26:45 -0000 On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 10:24:19 -0600 (MDT) "Brad Davis" wrote: > > On Sat, September 18, 2004 1:13 am, Hiroki Sato said: > > Hi all, > > > > As announced, the doc/ tree is now in a slush. Please postpone all > > non-essential changes until after the doc/ tree is tagged (currently > > scheduled for 24 September, 2004). > > > > While this is not a real freeze, if you need to commit a relatively > > large change to fix or improve our documentation for 5.3-RELEASE, > > please put a note for translators onto your commit log. > > Hi, > > I have a complete rewrite of the Firewall section. I have been trying to > work with Tom, but I think he is busy doing other stuff. I would like to > see this make it in before the 5.3 release. If anyone is interested I have > patches and the HTML output here: > > http://freebsd.so14k.com/firewall/ > > It needs to be merged against the current version of the handbook, but > that shouldn't be too hard. Currently I'm in Washington D.C. with DES working on the BIND9 import, amungst other things. If someone from doc could give this work a decent pass then I'll be extremely happy. Thanks, -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 21:10:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28DFE16A4CE; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 21:10:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from valentine.liquidneon.com (valentine.liquidneon.com [216.38.206.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E55A543D39; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 21:10:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from so14k@so14k.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by valentine.liquidneon.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB958844; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:10:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from valentine.liquidneon.com ([216.38.206.180]) by localhost (valentine.liquidneon.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14265-06; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:10:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from webmail.liquidneon.com (valentine.liquidneon.com [216.38.206.180]) by valentine.liquidneon.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E2FB843; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:10:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 199.201.236.2 (SquirrelMail authenticated user so14k@so14k.com); by webmail.liquidneon.com with HTTP; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:10:09 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <12393.199.201.236.2.1095541809.squirrel@199.201.236.2> In-Reply-To: <20040918162718.50dce0f1@localhost> References: <20040918.161309.35654157.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> <10215.199.201.236.2.1095524659.squirrel@199.201.236.2> <20040918162718.50dce0f1@localhost> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:10:09 -0600 (MDT) From: "Brad Davis" To: "Tom Rhodes" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at liquidneon.com cc: Hiroki Sato cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: doc/ slush begins X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 21:10:11 -0000 On Sat, September 18, 2004 2:27 pm, Tom Rhodes said: > On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 10:24:19 -0600 (MDT) > "Brad Davis" wrote: > >> >> On Sat, September 18, 2004 1:13 am, Hiroki Sato said: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > As announced, the doc/ tree is now in a slush. Please postpone all >> > non-essential changes until after the doc/ tree is tagged (currently >> > scheduled for 24 September, 2004). >> > >> > While this is not a real freeze, if you need to commit a relatively >> > large change to fix or improve our documentation for 5.3-RELEASE, >> > please put a note for translators onto your commit log. >> >> Hi, >> >> I have a complete rewrite of the Firewall section. I have been trying to >> work with Tom, but I think he is busy doing other stuff. I would like to >> see this make it in before the 5.3 release. If anyone is interested I >> have >> patches and the HTML output here: >> >> http://freebsd.so14k.com/firewall/ >> >> It needs to be merged against the current version of the handbook, but >> that shouldn't be too hard. > > Currently I'm in Washington D.C. with DES working on the BIND9 > import, amungst other things. If someone from doc could give > this work a decent pass then I'll be extremely happy. Sure you are ;P Regards, Brad Davis