From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 26 11:01:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E54516A4FF for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 11:01:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1718043D2D for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 11:01:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3QI1MPK045301 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 11:01:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i3QI1MWf045295 for emulation@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 11:01:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 11:01:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200404261801.i3QI1MWf045295@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: emulation@FreeBSD.org Subject: Current problem reports assigned to you X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 18:01:23 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2003/06/28] kern/53874 emulation /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base isn't wor 1 problem total. Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2000/09/21] kern/21463 emulation Linux compatability mode should not allow o [2000/11/13] kern/22826 emulation Memory limits have no effect in linux com o [2000/12/14] misc/23561 emulation Linux compatibility mode does not support o [2001/03/28] kern/26171 emulation not work Linux-emulator, but hi is work i 4 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2000/06/19] misc/19391 emulation Evilness with Linux Terminus, causes X to o [2002/08/11] kern/41543 emulation Easier wine/w23 support p [2002/09/04] kern/42404 emulation TIOCSCTTY not implemented in linuxulator o [2002/11/26] kern/45785 emulation Linux WineX seems to require a few new li 4 problems total. 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From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 29 06:11:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4BBE16A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 06:11:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69ACE43D49 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 06:11:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i3TDB8xZ007505 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:11:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id i3TDB3jA088343; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:11:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16528.65255.326986.106534@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:11:03 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Subject: user mode linux? X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:11:11 -0000 Has anybody succeeded in running user mode linux on FreeBSD? Not user-mode bsd, but user-mode linux. I do some linux driver development at work, and it would be very handy to have linux running in a vm on my desktop. [vmware is not an option, as we've already interfaced our hardware simulator to uml, so we can do firmware and driver development under uml] The first problem I have is really stumping me. The linux kernel (http://uml.linode.com/linux-2.4.19-5.bz2) is failing to start very early. Its creating a 1785856 byte sparse file and failing to mmap it: 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL linux_llseek(0x3,0,0x1b4000,0xbfbfe280,0) 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET linux_llseek 0 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL write(0x3,0xbfbfe2d7,0x1) 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 GIO fd 3 wrote 1 byte "\0" 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET write 1 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL linux_fcntl64(0x3,0x2,0x1) 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET linux_fcntl64 0 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL linux_mmap(0xbfbfe2d0) 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET linux_mmap -1 errno 12 Cannot allocate memory 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 PSIG SIGSEGV SIG_DFL 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 NAMI "linux-2.4.19-5.core" According to a printf from the linux_mmap(), the arguments look reasonable: mmap: 0, 1785856, 3, 0x00000001, 3, 0 I think this works out to: mmap(NULL, 1785856, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_SHARED, 3, 0) But I just can't see why this should fail. If anybody can point out what I'm missing, I'd appreciate it. I've included the full kdump, just in case.. FWIW, this was done on a ~1 month old -current. -stable gets a bit further, but also dies in a later mmap(). Thanks, Drew 2974 ktrace RET linux_brk 0 2974 ktrace CALL linux_olduname(0xbfbfe667,0xbfbfe524,0xbfbfe52c) 2974 ktrace NAMI "./linux-2.4.19-5" 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET linux_olduname 0 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL linux_fcntl64(0,0x1,0) 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET linux_fcntl64 0 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL linux_fcntl64(0x1,0x1,0) 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET linux_fcntl64 0 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL linux_fcntl64(0x2,0x1,0) 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET linux_fcntl64 0 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL linux_newuname(0xbfbfe300) 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET linux_newuname 0 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL geteuid 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET geteuid 1387/0x56b 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL linux_getuid 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET linux_getuid 1387/0x56b 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL getegid 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET getegid 0 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL linux_getgid 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET linux_getgid 0 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL linux_brk(0) 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET linux_brk -1608359936/0xa0226000 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL linux_brk(0xa0226020) 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET linux_brk -1608359904/0xa0226020 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL linux_brk(0xa0227000) 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET linux_brk -1608355840/0xa0227000 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL linux_getpid 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET linux_getpid 2974/0xb9e 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL linux_rt_sigprocmask(0x2,0xbfbfe450,0,0x8) 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET linux_rt_sigprocmask 0 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL linux_execve(0xbfbfe690,0xa02262f0,0xbfbfe560) 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 NAMI "./linux-2.4.19-5" 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET linux_execve 0 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL linux_fcntl64(0,0x1,0) 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET linux_fcntl64 0 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL linux_fcntl64(0x1,0x1,0) 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET linux_fcntl64 0 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL linux_fcntl64(0x2,0x1,0) 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET linux_fcntl64 0 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL linux_newuname(0xbfbfe200) 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET linux_newuname 0 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL geteuid 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET geteuid 1387/0x56b 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL linux_getuid 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET linux_getuid 1387/0x56b 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL getegid 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET getegid 0 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL linux_getgid 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET linux_getgid 0 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL linux_brk(0) 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET linux_brk -1608359936/0xa0226000 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL linux_brk(0xa0226020) 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET linux_brk -1608359904/0xa0226020 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL linux_brk(0xa0227000) 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET linux_brk -1608355840/0xa0227000 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL linux_getpid 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET linux_getpid 2974/0xb9e 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL linux_rt_sigprocmask(0x2,0xbfbfe350,0,0x8) 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET linux_rt_sigprocmask 0 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL linux_getrlimit(0x3,0xbfbfe340) 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET linux_getrlimit 0 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL gettimeofday(0xbfbfd1f8,0) 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET gettimeofday 0 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL linux_getpid 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET linux_getpid 2974/0xb9e 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL linux_open(0xbfbfd2b0,0xc2,0x180) 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 NAMI "/compat/linux/var/tmp" 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 NAMI "/var/tmp/vm_file-iogmcl" 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET linux_open 3 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL linux_unlink(0xbfbfd2b0) 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 NAMI "/compat/linux/var/tmp/vm_file-iogmcl" 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 NAMI "/var/tmp/vm_file-iogmcl" 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET linux_unlink 0 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL fchmod(0x3,0x1ff) 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET fchmod 0 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL linux_llseek(0x3,0,0x1b4000,0xbfbfe280,0) 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET linux_llseek 0 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL write(0x3,0xbfbfe2d7,0x1) 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 GIO fd 3 wrote 1 byte "\0" 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET write 1 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL linux_fcntl64(0x3,0x2,0x1) 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET linux_fcntl64 0 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL linux_mmap(0xbfbfe2d0) 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET linux_mmap -1 errno 12 Cannot allocate memory 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 PSIG SIGSEGV SIG_DFL 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 NAMI "linux-2.4.19-5.core" From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 29 13:27:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C10716A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:27:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cableone.net (scanmail2.cableone.net [24.116.0.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5646243D46 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:27:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kitbsdlist2@HotPOP.com) Received: from vixen42. (unverified [24.119.123.61]) by smail2.cableone.net (SurgeMail 1.5d2) with ESMTP id 5547982 for multiple; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:16:12 -0700 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:24:51 -0500 From: Vulpes Velox To: Andrew Gallatin Message-Id: <20040429132451.2b72ad01@vixen42.> In-Reply-To: <16528.65255.326986.106534@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> References: <16528.65255.326986.106534@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: user mode linux? X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 20:27:23 -0000 On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:11:03 -0400 (EDT) Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > Not really my area of knowledge, but I would suspect a possible unimplemented function call or something to the like... or a change in one... check dmesg after you run it... it will some times spit out info if this is the case... From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 29 14:01:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF8516A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:01:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.antelecom.net (mail.antelecom.net [66.102.192.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36D5F43D5A for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:01:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eternal@antelecom.net) Received: from pud (unverified [68.184.118.15]) 63862516 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:01:06 -700 PDT Message-ID: <005001c42e46$96f2cee0$0700a8c0@aoldsl.net> From: "eternal" To: Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:02:59 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Vpipe: Scanner said clean (/usr/local/rav/bin/ravdmail) X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 0, in=4, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 68.184.118.15 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: wine on freebsd4.9? X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 21:01:53 -0000 anyone out there with any experience with getting wine to work on = freebsd 4.9? i've tried the port that i got on the disc1 iso, and it = cant install anything without error (except starcraft, but the game wont = accept keyboard input, and using the mouse to scroll around in the game = causes it to scroll around the actual desktop...). i have tried = building wine-20040408, as well as from cvs -with either gcc32 or gcc33 = - and they both fail to make (i have the make output in a file if anyone = is interested). last night, i installed linux_base-8, and i now have = rpm support on my box... should i try installing a wine port for = redhat8, or try to build wine from linux source? please, i am trying so = desperatly to get away from micro$oft, and just need a little help... thanks in advance, shaun From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 29 14:07:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9B7A16A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:07:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 622DF43D9E for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:07:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i3TL76xZ029070 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:07:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id i3TL719s088815; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:07:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16529.28277.65629.71283@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:07:01 -0400 (EDT) To: Vulpes Velox In-Reply-To: <20040429132451.2b72ad01@vixen42.> References: <16528.65255.326986.106534@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20040429132451.2b72ad01@vixen42.> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: user mode linux? X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 21:07:07 -0000 Vulpes Velox writes: > On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:11:03 -0400 (EDT) > Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > > > > > > > Not really my area of knowledge, but I would suspect a possible > unimplemented function call or something to the like... or a change in > one... check dmesg after you run it... it will some times spit out > info if this is the case... Alas, its not that simple. mmap() is simply failing. Nothing is printed to console. Drew From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 29 14:17:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB5C16A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ren.fdy2.net (fdy2.demon.co.uk [80.177.11.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0AC643D67 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:17:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rjs@ren.fdy2.net) Received: by ren.fdy2.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 491F11F7B; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 22:17:07 +0100 (BST) From: Robert Swindells To: gallatin@cs.duke.edu In-reply-to: <16529.28277.65629.71283@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> (message from Andrew Gallatin on Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:07:01 -0400 (EDT)) Message-Id: <20040429211707.491F11F7B@ren.fdy2.net> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 22:17:07 +0100 (BST) cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: user mode linux? X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 21:17:10 -0000 Andrew Gallatin wrote: >Alas, its not that simple. mmap() is simply failing. Nothing is >printed to console. Is it trying to mmap() to an address that is already used by malloc or shared libraries ? Robert Swindells From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 29 14:42:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7738616A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C6D43D31 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:42:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i3TLg5xZ003407 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:42:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id i3TLfxlb088848; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:41:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16529.30375.713069.15455@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:41:59 -0400 (EDT) To: Robert Swindells In-Reply-To: <20040429211707.491F11F7B@ren.fdy2.net> References: <16529.28277.65629.71283@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20040429211707.491F11F7B@ren.fdy2.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: user mode linux? X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 21:42:08 -0000 Robert Swindells writes: > > Andrew Gallatin wrote: > >Alas, its not that simple. mmap() is simply failing. Nothing is > >printed to console. > > Is it trying to mmap() to an address that is already used by malloc > or shared libraries ? According to the debugging output I enabled, its doing: mmap: 0, 1785856, 3, 0x00000001, 3, 0 I think this corresponds to: mmap(NULL, 1785856, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_SHARED, 3, 0) Ie, mapping an address of 0 shared should get you back whatever the system feels like giving you. In fact, I've written a toy test program to duplicate the system calls involved with this file, and I can't seem to make a toy linux binary fail.. Thats what makes me think I'm missing something earlier on in the trace. Drew From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 29 17:04:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AACBA16A4CF for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:04:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.xcllnt.net (209-128-86-226.bayarea.net [209.128.86.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7221D43D5A for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:04:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) Received: from ns1.xcllnt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns1.xcllnt.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3U04bS5039115; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:04:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@ns1.xcllnt.net) Received: (from marcel@localhost) by ns1.xcllnt.net (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i3U04b4g039114; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:04:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:04:37 -0700 From: Marcel Moolenaar To: Andrew Gallatin Message-ID: <20040430000437.GB39055@ns1.xcllnt.net> References: <16528.65255.326986.106534@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <16528.65255.326986.106534@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: user mode linux? X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 00:04:44 -0000 On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 09:11:03AM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > The first problem I have is really stumping me. The linux kernel > (http://uml.linode.com/linux-2.4.19-5.bz2) is failing to start very > early. Its creating a 1785856 byte sparse file and failing to mmap > it: > > 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL linux_llseek(0x3,0,0x1b4000,0xbfbfe280,0) > 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET linux_llseek 0 > 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL write(0x3,0xbfbfe2d7,0x1) > 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 GIO fd 3 wrote 1 byte > "\0" > 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET write 1 > 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL linux_fcntl64(0x3,0x2,0x1) > 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET linux_fcntl64 0 > 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 CALL linux_mmap(0xbfbfe2d0) > 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 RET linux_mmap -1 errno 12 Cannot allocate > memory > 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 PSIG SIGSEGV SIG_DFL > 2974 linux-2.4.19-5 NAMI "linux-2.4.19-5.core" Two things you might wan to look into: 1. Is there an issue with mmap(2)'ing sparse files? 2. Are limits being hit (most notably RLIMIT_DATA)? -- Marcel Moolenaar USPA: A-39004 marcel@xcllnt.net From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 29 19:33:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC7A16A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pr93.lublin.sdi.tpnet.pl (pr93.lublin.sdi.tpnet.pl [217.97.36.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 16A1743D2F for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:33:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michal@pasternak.w.lub.pl) Received: (qmail 49772 invoked by uid 1001); 30 Apr 2004 02:33:40 -0000 Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 04:33:40 +0200 From: Michal Pasternak To: eternal Message-ID: <20040430023340.GA49718@pasternak.w.lub.pl> References: <005001c42e46$96f2cee0$0700a8c0@aoldsl.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <005001c42e46$96f2cee0$0700a8c0@aoldsl.net> cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wine on freebsd4.9? X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Michal Pasternak List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 02:33:22 -0000 eternal [Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 05:02:59PM -0700]: > anyone out there with any experience with getting wine to work on freebsd > 4.9? i've tried the port that i got on the disc1 iso, and it cant install > anything without error (except starcraft, but the game wont accept keyboard > input, and using the mouse to scroll around in the game causes it to scroll > around the actual desktop...). Well, yes, that's how it looks in general, at least that's how it did for me. To run anything, you sometimes have to combine native/emulated DLL settings in ~/.wine/config; sometimes an already installed Windows OS is handy; sometimes you might want to use CrossOver Office plugin from CodeWeavers, which is told to make things simpler. > i have tried building wine-20040408, as well > as from cvs -with either gcc32 or gcc33 - and they both fail to make (i have > the make output in a file if anyone is interested). Don't use gcc32. Yes, ports@freebsd.org perhaps will be interested (of course if that was cvsupped ports tree). > last night, i installed > linux_base-8, and i now have rpm support on my box... should i try > installing a wine port for redhat8, You could do that, why not. For some time I've used binary Linux version of OpenOffice.org, for example, just because the native version was just being ported, and Linux binaries worked in a more stable way. > or try to build wine from linux source? There's no such thing as Linux source :) Wine for FreeBSD and Wine for Linux is built from a single source tree (as far as I know!) > please, i am trying so desperatly to get away from micro$oft, and just need > a little help... Have you tried VMware yet? It is a bit heavier than wine, but chances are it will work much better... ... unless you want to play games on it; in this case you might want to use Linux with VMware. Take care, -- Michal Pasternak :: http://pasternak.w.lub.pl :: http://winsrc.sf.net Here's my obfuscated Python signature code, to indicate I'm a Python guy: >>> print u'micha\u0142 pasternak'.encode("iso8859-2") From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 30 07:42:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B324316A4CE for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 07:42:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EAC443D41 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 07:42:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i3UEgexZ003295 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 30 Apr 2004 10:42:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id i3UEgXOQ089962; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 10:42:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16530.26073.555667.482789@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 10:42:33 -0400 (EDT) To: Marcel Moolenaar In-Reply-To: <20040430000437.GB39055@ns1.xcllnt.net> References: <16528.65255.326986.106534@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20040430000437.GB39055@ns1.xcllnt.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: user mode linux? X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 14:42:41 -0000 Marcel Moolenaar writes: > > Two things you might wan to look into: > 1. Is there an issue with mmap(2)'ing sparse files? > 2. Are limits being hit (most notably RLIMIT_DATA)? > I think I've "figured it out" to the extent I can. The mmap is done like this: linux_mmap_common(0, 1785856, 3, 0x00000801, 3, 0x0) The failure happens due to this check in vm_map_findspace(): if (start > map->max_offset) When I print things out here, I see: start = 0xc0001000, map->min_offset = 0x0, map->max_offset = 0xbfc00000 This "start" is the addr that was chosen in mmap() for non-MAP_FIXED mappings: if (addr == 0 || (addr >= round_page((vm_offset_t)vms->vm_taddr) && addr < round_page((vm_offset_t)vms->vm_daddr + lim_max(td->td_proc, RLIMIT_DATA)))) addr = round_page((vm_offset_t)vms->vm_daddr + lim_max(td->td_proc, RLIMIT_DATA)); I can work around this with a hack in linux_mmap_common() to set the address to 4K so that this code never runs, but I'd really like to understand what's happening... Hmm.. Another work around is to break into ddb and *reduce* maxdsize from the default 512MB to 256MB: db> e maxdsiz maxdsiz: 20000000 db> w maxdsiz 10000000 Thanks, Drew Index: i386/linux/linux_machdep.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/linux/linux_machdep.c,v retrieving revision 1.41 diff -u -r1.41 linux_machdep.c --- i386/linux/linux_machdep.c 4 Feb 2004 21:52:54 -0000 1.41 +++ i386/linux/linux_machdep.c 30 Apr 2004 14:19:21 -0000 @@ -539,6 +539,9 @@ (void *)bsd_args.addr, bsd_args.len, bsd_args.prot, bsd_args.flags, bsd_args.fd, (int)bsd_args.pos); #endif + if (((bsd_args.flags & MAP_FIXED) == 0) && (bsd_args.addr == 0)) + bsd_args.addr = 4096; + error = mmap(td, &bsd_args); #ifdef DEBUG if (ldebug(mmap)) From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 1 12:34:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2633C16A4CE for ; Sat, 1 May 2004 12:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B2D43D5C for ; Sat, 1 May 2004 12:34:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i41JYcxZ021269 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 1 May 2004 15:34:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id i41JYXJa094720; Sat, 1 May 2004 15:34:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16531.64457.287692.950839@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 15:34:33 -0400 (EDT) To: iedowse@maths.tcd.ie X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: re: vmware2 patch for -CURRENT X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 19:34:40 -0000 Ian, Your patch for vmware2 posted to -emulation a few weeks back worked fine for me.. (I needed to dig up my old vmware2 license to run usermode linux..) There were 2 quirks which I don't think have anything to do with your patch o - I have a UP system (-current from April 3) using IOAPIC with a UP kernel. This confused vmware (and caused a kernel panic) until I booted with hint.apic.0.disabled=1. I think we need to do a little more work to get the apic address, and not make it conditional on SMP. o - linux-base 8.x is too new to run vmware2. Due to a change in the nice ABI in glibc, if you run vmware2 with newer libs, it will crash, complaining that AIO is not implemented. This has nothing to do with your patch, but I wanted to get it into the archives, as it took me an hour or two of running strings on the linux libc and Googling before I pulled the /compat/linux/lib directory from an old 4.x with linux_base-6.1 installed. Anyway, please consider your patches tested. But we still need a ports comitter... Drew From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 1 14:36:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18EA116A4CE; Sat, 1 May 2004 14:36:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lakermmtao02.cox.net (lakermmtao02.cox.net [68.230.240.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F8B943D64; Sat, 1 May 2004 14:36:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from ip68-14-60-78.no.no.cox.net ([68.14.60.78]) by lakermmtao02.cox.netESMTP <20040501213641.URZP21610.lakermmtao02.cox.net@ip68-14-60-78.no.no.cox.net>; Sat, 1 May 2004 17:36:41 -0400 Received: from ip68-14-60-78.no.no.cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i41LagKA047779; Sat, 1 May 2004 16:36:42 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads@ip68-14-60-78.no.no.cox.net) Received: (from conrads@localhost)i41Laa0i047778; Sat, 1 May 2004 16:36:37 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.5 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 16:36:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Conrad Sabatier To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org cc: emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Kudos to Linux emulation authors/maintainers X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: conrads@cox.net List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 21:36:52 -0000 I've recently been putting the Linux emulator through some pretty rigorous trials under -current, and I just wanted to express my appreciation and admiration for the fine job you folks have done with this thing. I replaced my original install of emulators/linux_base with emulators/linux_base-debian, then really put it through some paces with apt-get, dselect and friends, running in a chrooted /compat/linux/ (/bin/bash) environment, actually succeeding in upgrading to the latest unstable base, and adding a fair number of .debs along the way, all of which are working splendidly. I just had to write to say how very impressed I am. Great work, people! -- Conrad Sabatier - "In Unix veritas" From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 1 14:36:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18EA116A4CE; Sat, 1 May 2004 14:36:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lakermmtao02.cox.net (lakermmtao02.cox.net [68.230.240.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F8B943D64; Sat, 1 May 2004 14:36:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from ip68-14-60-78.no.no.cox.net ([68.14.60.78]) by lakermmtao02.cox.netESMTP <20040501213641.URZP21610.lakermmtao02.cox.net@ip68-14-60-78.no.no.cox.net>; Sat, 1 May 2004 17:36:41 -0400 Received: from ip68-14-60-78.no.no.cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i41LagKA047779; Sat, 1 May 2004 16:36:42 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads@ip68-14-60-78.no.no.cox.net) Received: (from conrads@localhost)i41Laa0i047778; Sat, 1 May 2004 16:36:37 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.5 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 16:36:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Conrad Sabatier To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org cc: emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Kudos to Linux emulation authors/maintainers X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: conrads@cox.net List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 21:36:52 -0000 I've recently been putting the Linux emulator through some pretty rigorous trials under -current, and I just wanted to express my appreciation and admiration for the fine job you folks have done with this thing. I replaced my original install of emulators/linux_base with emulators/linux_base-debian, then really put it through some paces with apt-get, dselect and friends, running in a chrooted /compat/linux/ (/bin/bash) environment, actually succeeding in upgrading to the latest unstable base, and adding a fair number of .debs along the way, all of which are working splendidly. I just had to write to say how very impressed I am. Great work, people! -- Conrad Sabatier - "In Unix veritas" From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 1 14:46:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05BF516A4CE for ; Sat, 1 May 2004 14:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lakermmtao10.cox.net (lakermmtao10.cox.net [68.230.240.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8672843D49 for ; Sat, 1 May 2004 14:46:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from ip68-14-60-78.no.no.cox.net ([68.14.60.78]) by lakermmtao10.cox.netESMTP <20040501214649.YUOH18696.lakermmtao10.cox.net@ip68-14-60-78.no.no.cox.net> for ; Sat, 1 May 2004 17:46:49 -0400 Received: from ip68-14-60-78.no.no.cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i41LkmBH047894 for ; Sat, 1 May 2004 16:46:48 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads@ip68-14-60-78.no.no.cox.net) Received: (from conrads@localhost)i41LkhTP047893 for freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org; Sat, 1 May 2004 16:46:43 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.5 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 16:46:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Conrad Sabatier To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kudos to Linux emulation authors/maintainers X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: conrads@cox.net List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 21:46:52 -0000 Sorry for the double posting; I thought freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org and emulation@freebsd.org were unique addresses (the latter being the address listed in /usr/src/MAINTAINERS). -- Conrad Sabatier - "In Unix veritas"