From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 03:48:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767BC16A4CE for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2004 03:48:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.salzburg-online.at (smtp.salzburg-online.at [213.153.32.159]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEE6243D48 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2004 03:48:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from clemens_ml@darkness.at) Received: from argos.campus-sbg.at ([62.99.152.178] helo=darkness.at) by smtp.salzburg-online.at with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.24) id 1Azwm1-0001jL-OY for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Sun, 07 Mar 2004 12:48:49 +0100 Message-ID: <404B0C21.2030209@darkness.at> Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 12:48:49 +0100 From: Draschl clemens User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20030925 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: nforce2 ata-problems with 4.9-stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 11:48:51 -0000 hi, seems, ran into the same problem mentioned at http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=freebsd-questions&m=107029826206576&w=2 configuration: Board: MSI K7N2-Delta nForce2 FSB400 256MB DDR-Ram AMD 1000 FreeBSD hydra.darkness.at 4.9-STABLE FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE #2: Thu Dec 18 17:35:52 CET 2003 root@hydra.darkness.at:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HYDRA i386 atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 9.0 on pci0 ad0: 38166MB [77545/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100 ad2: 114440MB [232514/16/63] at ata1-master UDMA100 ad3: 114440MB [232514/16/63] at ata1-slave UDMA100 since the last make-world the system hangs during boot with the error-msg: ad3: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting ata1: resetting devices Notice: This only occurs with the newly built kernel with sources from 3rd of March. The last kernel was built at 18th of Dec. No problems during boot-up. I tried to switch off the disks in the BIOS, but that didn't help. The discovery messages of the harddisks changed from ad0: 38166MB [77545/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100 ^^^^^^^ to: ad0: 38166MB [77545/16/63] at ata0-master BIOSDMA ^^^^^^^ switching off the DMA-mode in the BIOS also didn't solve the problem. I know about the troubles regarding nVidia not publishing the specs for their chipset. Sound and network isn't very critical als i use an Intel-based NIC, but the ATA-problems are confusing me. Now I'm runnin' a kernel from 18th Dec and a userland from 3rd March... I played with atacontrol a little bit as a "last hope" but nothing. Maybe someone can explain this, or do I really have to buy an additional ATA-controller and connect the two 120GB-drives in a Master/Master-configuration? Or did I forgot something to take care about. A diff between my tweaked kernel and GENERIC available through mail, although the changes don't affect the ata-subsystem, but the networking section. so long, greets clemens From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 16:28:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE93816A4CE for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2004 16:28:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 446B443D3F for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2004 16:28:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from ec.rr.com (cpe-024-211-231-149.ec.rr.com [24.211.231.149]) i280SFs1005264 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2004 19:28:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <404BBE5D.9020504@ec.rr.com> Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 19:29:17 -0500 From: Jason User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20040210 Thunderbird/0.4 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: memory controller driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 00:28:18 -0000 I would like to know where they are. I have been looking in the source but I don't see any. Are they needed at all? Jason From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 19:51:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF1516A4CE for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2004 19:51:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from power.connexus.net.au (power.connexus.net.au [203.12.22.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9803C43D31 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2004 19:51:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from adrianl@connexus.net.au) Received: from NOTEBOOK.connexus.net.au (adrian [203.12.22.37] (may be forged)) by power.connexus.net.au (8.12.4/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i293pRCC001830 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2004 14:51:27 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from adrianl@connexus.net.au) XAntiVirus: This e-mail has been scanned for viruses via the Connexus Internet Service Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.0.20040309145106.01f9cc50@mail.connexus.net.au> X-Sender: adrianl@mail.connexus.net.au (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 14:51:28 +1100 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org From: "Adrian @ Connexus" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Best IDE RAID5 solution for FreeBSD 5.2 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 03:51:55 -0000 Hi, I'm having lots of trouble with 3ware RAID cards and would like to know what other people are using.. I basically just need to be able to rebuild degraded arrays remotely (from FreeBSD) as I don't always have console access to the machines and can't power-cycle them. I have various versions of the 3Ware cards (mainly 7006). After a while one of the drives will degrade. If I rebuild it, the same drive just degrades again soon after. I've replaced everything from the HD to RAID card, motherboard and cables - but in the end I have to format the array and rebuild the machine from scratch but then after a while it starts doing the same thing.. This is happening on FreeBSD versions 4.8->5.2 and across completely different hardware (though I've only ever used Maxtor IDE drives). Any help / suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, Adrian. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 05:54:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC32616A4CE for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2004 05:54:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from gate.vostok-inc.com (unknown [217.23.190.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D196C43D49 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2004 05:54:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rust@vinet.ru) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (gate.vostok-inc.com [217.23.190.106] (may be forged)) by gate.vostok-inc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i29DqVRx005677 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2004 16:52:35 +0300 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 16:52:22 +0300 From: rust X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62/Beta5) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <174698690593.20040309165222@vinet.ru> To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.001 () BAYES_44 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Subject: Digi AccelePort 4r 920 driver support in puc? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: rust List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 13:54:34 -0000 Hello freebsd-hardware, I have Digi AccelePort 4r 920 and it work fine on Linux But now I install FreeBSD 5.2 and there are no support for this multiport card #pciconf -l -v pci0@pci3:1:0: class=0x078000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x0026114f rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Digi International' device = 'AccelePort 4r 920' class = simple comms # pciconf -r pci3:1:0 0:0xfF 0026114f 02000103 07800001 00000000 df800000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 dfdf0000 00000000 00000000 00000111 04030f0a 0010012c 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 or #pciconf -r -b pci3:1:0 0:0xfF 4f 11 26 00 03 01 00 02 01 00 80 07 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 df 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 df df 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 11 01 00 00 0a 0f 03 04 2c 01 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 I add in pucdata.c { "Digiboard XR 920", NULL, { 0x114f, 0x0026, 0, 0 }, { 0xffff, 0xffff, 0, 0 }, { { PUC_PORT_TYPE_COM, 0x10, 0x00, COM_FREQ}, }, but unsuccefully - in dmesg i have puc0: mem 0xdf800000-0xdfbfffff irq 17 at device 1.0 on pci3 puc0: could not get resource How i make support in puc for Digi card?? -- Best regards, rust mailto:rust@vinet.ru From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 11:46:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8207E16A4CE for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2004 11:46:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from alcanet.com.au (mail2.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6850843D45 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2004 11:46:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au) Received: from sydsmtp02.alcatel.com.au (IDENT:root@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])i29JkZkq019781; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 06:46:35 +1100 Received: from gsmx07.alcatel.com.au ([139.188.20.247]) by sydsmtp02.alcatel.com.au (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.12) with ESMTP id 2004031006463403:261418 ; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 06:46:34 +1100 Received: from gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i29JkXHQ062187; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 06:46:33 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au) Received: (from jeremyp@localhost) by gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id i29JkVnl062185; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 06:46:31 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 06:46:30 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: rust Message-ID: <20040309194630.GU10121@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: rust , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org References: <174698690593.20040309165222@vinet.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <174698690593.20040309165222@vinet.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on SYDSMTP02/AlcatelAustralia(Release 5.0.12 |February 13, 2003) at 10/03/2004 06:46:34 AM,|February 13, 2003) at 10/03/2004 06:46:35 AM, Serialize complete at 10/03/2004 06:46:35 AM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Digi AccelePort 4r 920 driver support in puc? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 19:46:43 -0000 On 2004-Mar-09 16:52:22 +0300, rust wrote: >I have Digi AccelePort 4r 920 and it work fine on Linux > >But now I install FreeBSD 5.2 and there are no support for this >multiport card Try digi(4): "kldload digi". >How i make support in puc for Digi card?? You can't. Use digi(4) instead. -- Peter Jeremy From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 13:21:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5CD116A4CE for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2004 13:21:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail53.messagelabs.com (mail53.messagelabs.com [216.82.255.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 894E443D31 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2004 13:21:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jason.dictos@yosemitetech.com) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: jason.dictos@yosemitetech.com X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-53.messagelabs.com!1078867290!1234455 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.15; banners=yosemitetech.com,-,- Received: (qmail 30149 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2004 21:21:31 -0000 Received: from mail.tapeware.com (HELO yt-internet.tapeware.com) (4.21.59.10) by server-6.tower-53.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 9 Mar 2004 21:21:31 -0000 Received: by mail.tapeware.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Tue, 9 Mar 2004 13:24:40 -0800 Message-ID: From: Jason Dictos To: "'freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org'" Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 13:24:36 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain Subject: How to use int 13 while BSD is running X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 21:21:31 -0000 Hello, I'm investigating what resources are out there for accessing bios addressable devices while BSD is up and running. The situation is this, currently we licenses Caldera DOS for a program we wrote which uses the int13 extensions to manipulate the systems hard drive (i.e. to recover partition tables and what not). This forces our application to be written in 16 bit mode, but it does allows us to not have to worry about loading any driver which would be hardware specific to access the hard drive. Is there any way to write a driver for BSD which would put the processor into real mode, therefore allowing us to use the int 13 api of the bios to read and write hard drives? That way we could package a stripped down BSD kernel which loaded our driver and gave our application access to hard disks without having to load any device driver. Apologies in advance if this is the wrong mailing list, -Jason ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 07:42:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D078716A4CE for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 07:42:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com (mailout01.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A28143D45 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 07:42:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lu.schreier@t-online.de) Received: from fwd00.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1B15rG-0006ke-00; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 16:42:58 +0100 Received: from 192.168.1.131 (XNgGmrZLgeTeCZanjp6gmayULNdz+dg1j7ABxnf-RK7N41y+GkZ7gR@[217.235.187.163]) by fwd00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1B15qo-1TNBaa0; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 16:42:30 +0100 From: lu.schreier@t-online.de (Ludwig Schreier) To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 16:48:23 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200403111646.02640.lu.schreier@t-online.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Seen: false X-ID: XNgGmrZLgeTeCZanjp6gmayULNdz+dg1j7ABxnf-RK7N41y+GkZ7gR Subject: About the IBM R40e notebook and its harddrive, making strange sounds. X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 15:42:59 -0000 Hi community, it isn't easy to describe and actually it is not a serious problem, but what is the UFS (Unix File System, FFS even?) doing every few minutes? My harddrive (I believe its a IBM harddrive, since the whole notebook is IBM) makes strange sounds every 1-2 minutes if there is _no_ great load or system activity. Don't laugh, but something like: "dack, dack." A frequent routine check ... ? I have read a bit about how harddrives work and what's in them, because I am interessted in such things and what exactly is the reading header doing ? If the harddrive is driven by NTFS i.e., no sounds will occure. So the question is - because no major errors of hardware occured yet - does this mean something to my harddrive or is it just how UFS is working with it? Thanks for help on this! :) -- Ludwig Schreier lu.schreier@t-online.de GnuPG KeyID: 0x024A112A From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 10:15:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4057716A4CE for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 10:15:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail3.speakeasy.net (mail3.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C2FA43D58 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 10:15:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 22081 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2004 18:15:38 -0000 Received: from dsl027-160-063.atl1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) encrypted SMTP for ; 10 Mar 2004 18:15:38 -0000 Received: from 10.50.40.205 (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i2AIFD28030405; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:15:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) From: John Baldwin To: Jason Dictos Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 10:52:13 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200403101052.13098.jhb@FreeBSD.org> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on server.baldwin.cx cc: "'freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: How to use int 13 while BSD is running X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 18:15:40 -0000 On Tuesday 09 March 2004 04:24 pm, Jason Dictos wrote: > Hello, > > I'm investigating what resources are out there for accessing bios > addressable devices while BSD is up and running. The situation is this, > currently we licenses Caldera DOS for a program we wrote which uses the > int13 extensions to manipulate the systems hard drive (i.e. to recover > partition tables and what not). This forces our application to be written > in 16 bit mode, but it does allows us to not have to worry about loading > any driver which would be hardware specific to access the hard drive. Is > there any way to write a driver for BSD which would put the processor into > real mode, therefore allowing us to use the int 13 api of the bios to read > and write hard drives? That way we could package a stripped down BSD kernel > which loaded our driver and gave our application access to hard disks > without having to load any device driver. > > Apologies in advance if this is the wrong mailing list, Look at the loader in src/sys/boot. It is a 32-bit C app that uses BIOS calls to access the disk. It uses a psuedo-kernel called BTX to manage interrupts in vm86 mode and run BIOS code in vm86 mode. You can probably port your software to being a custom loader that uses boot2 to boot off of a floppy. You can also use cdboot to boot a loader off of a CD or pxeboot to boot a loader image over the network. The loader uses libstand which provides several useful things like malloc/free, some basic filesystem support, etc. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 10:19:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41BD616A4CE for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 10:19:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail54.messagelabs.com (mail54.messagelabs.com [216.82.244.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9FFD143D5A for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 10:19:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jason.dictos@yosemitetech.com) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: jason.dictos@yosemitetech.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-54.messagelabs.com!1078942783!1056498 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.15; banners=yosemitetech.com,-,- Received: (qmail 11679 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2004 18:19:44 -0000 Received: from mail.tapeware.com (HELO yt-internet.tapeware.com) (4.21.59.10) by server-8.tower-54.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 10 Mar 2004 18:19:44 -0000 Received: by mail.tapeware.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 10:22:53 -0800 Message-ID: From: Jason Dictos To: 'John Baldwin' , Jason Dictos Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 10:22:52 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain cc: "'freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: How to use int 13 while BSD is running X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 18:19:46 -0000 Thanks for the reply, however I'm looking for a more DMPI style interface while in protected mode. If we didn't need to be in protected mode, then I'd just leave it the way it is-us booting into DR DOS and using inline assembly to access int 13. However what we're trying to do is move to a 32 bit kernel environment, while still retaining access to realmode interrupts. -Jason -----Original Message----- From: John Baldwin [mailto:jhb@FreeBSD.org] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 7:52 AM To: Jason Dictos Cc: 'freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org' Subject: Re: How to use int 13 while BSD is running On Tuesday 09 March 2004 04:24 pm, Jason Dictos wrote: > Hello, > > I'm investigating what resources are out there for accessing bios > addressable devices while BSD is up and running. The situation is > this, currently we licenses Caldera DOS for a program we wrote which > uses the > int13 extensions to manipulate the systems hard drive (i.e. to recover > partition tables and what not). This forces our application to be > written in 16 bit mode, but it does allows us to not have to worry > about loading any driver which would be hardware specific to access > the hard drive. Is there any way to write a driver for BSD which would > put the processor into real mode, therefore allowing us to use the int > 13 api of the bios to read and write hard drives? That way we could > package a stripped down BSD kernel which loaded our driver and gave > our application access to hard disks without having to load any device driver. > > Apologies in advance if this is the wrong mailing list, Look at the loader in src/sys/boot. It is a 32-bit C app that uses BIOS calls to access the disk. It uses a psuedo-kernel called BTX to manage interrupts in vm86 mode and run BIOS code in vm86 mode. You can probably port your software to being a custom loader that uses boot2 to boot off of a floppy. You can also use cdboot to boot a loader off of a CD or pxeboot to boot a loader image over the network. The loader uses libstand which provides several useful things like malloc/free, some basic filesystem support, etc. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 14:33:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829E016A4CF for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 14:33:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail3.speakeasy.net (mail3.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8E843D46 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 14:33:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 2054 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2004 22:33:07 -0000 Received: from dsl027-160-063.atl1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) encrypted SMTP for ; 10 Mar 2004 22:33:07 -0000 Received: from 10.50.40.205 (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i2AMWt2B031666; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 17:33:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) From: John Baldwin To: Jason Dictos Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 17:30:07 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200403101730.07604.jhb@FreeBSD.org> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on server.baldwin.cx cc: "'freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: How to use int 13 while BSD is running X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 22:33:11 -0000 On Wednesday 10 March 2004 01:22 pm, Jason Dictos wrote: > Thanks for the reply, however I'm looking for a more DMPI style interface > while in protected mode. If we didn't need to be in protected mode, then > I'd just leave it the way it is-us booting into DR DOS and using inline > assembly to access int 13. However what we're trying to do is move to a 32 > bit kernel environment, while still retaining access to realmode > interrupts. The loader runs in protected mode. Basically, BTX is a small kernel that allows for a single protected mode task. That task can make BIOS calls, the real mode interrupt handlers are still used for device interrupts, etc. For example, see src/sys/boot/i386/libi386/biosdisk.c to see how it uses int13 to talk to the disks but from within a 32-bit protected mode app written in C. > -Jason > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Baldwin [mailto:jhb@FreeBSD.org] > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 7:52 AM > To: Jason Dictos > Cc: 'freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org' > Subject: Re: How to use int 13 while BSD is running > > On Tuesday 09 March 2004 04:24 pm, Jason Dictos wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I'm investigating what resources are out there for accessing bios > > addressable devices while BSD is up and running. The situation is > > this, currently we licenses Caldera DOS for a program we wrote which > > uses the > > int13 extensions to manipulate the systems hard drive (i.e. to recover > > partition tables and what not). This forces our application to be > > written in 16 bit mode, but it does allows us to not have to worry > > about loading any driver which would be hardware specific to access > > the hard drive. Is there any way to write a driver for BSD which would > > put the processor into real mode, therefore allowing us to use the int > > 13 api of the bios to read and write hard drives? That way we could > > package a stripped down BSD kernel which loaded our driver and gave > > our application access to hard disks without having to load any device > > driver. > > > Apologies in advance if this is the wrong mailing list, > > Look at the loader in src/sys/boot. It is a 32-bit C app that uses BIOS > calls to access the disk. It uses a psuedo-kernel called BTX to manage > interrupts in vm86 mode and run BIOS code in vm86 mode. You can probably > port your software to being a custom loader that uses boot2 to boot off of > a floppy. You can also use cdboot to boot a loader off of a CD or pxeboot > to boot a loader image over the network. The loader uses libstand which > provides several useful things like malloc/free, some basic filesystem > support, etc. > > -- > John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power > Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > ______________________________________________________________________ > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > ______________________________________________________________________ -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 15:16:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 468C816A4CE for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 15:16:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail65.messagelabs.com (mail65.messagelabs.com [216.82.244.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9BEB443D31 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 15:16:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jason.dictos@yosemitetech.com) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: jason.dictos@yosemitetech.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-65.messagelabs.com!1078960573!1099989 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.15; banners=yosemitetech.com,-,- Received: (qmail 6949 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2004 23:16:13 -0000 Received: from mail.tapeware.com (HELO yt-internet.tapeware.com) (4.21.59.10) by server-2.tower-65.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 10 Mar 2004 23:16:13 -0000 Received: by mail.tapeware.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 15:19:22 -0800 Message-ID: From: Jason Dictos To: 'John Baldwin' , Jason Dictos Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 15:19:22 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain cc: "'freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: How to use int 13 while BSD is running X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 23:16:17 -0000 So if this BTX kernel is running in protected mode, when it issues its bios calls does it switch to real mode and then back to protected mode? What are these vm86 functions? -Jason -----Original Message----- From: John Baldwin [mailto:jhb@FreeBSD.org] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 2:30 PM To: Jason Dictos Cc: 'freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org' Subject: Re: How to use int 13 while BSD is running On Wednesday 10 March 2004 01:22 pm, Jason Dictos wrote: > Thanks for the reply, however I'm looking for a more DMPI style > interface while in protected mode. If we didn't need to be in > protected mode, then I'd just leave it the way it is-us booting into > DR DOS and using inline assembly to access int 13. However what we're > trying to do is move to a 32 bit kernel environment, while still > retaining access to realmode interrupts. The loader runs in protected mode. Basically, BTX is a small kernel that allows for a single protected mode task. That task can make BIOS calls, the real mode interrupt handlers are still used for device interrupts, etc. For example, see src/sys/boot/i386/libi386/biosdisk.c to see how it uses int13 to talk to the disks but from within a 32-bit protected mode app written in C. > -Jason > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Baldwin [mailto:jhb@FreeBSD.org] > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 7:52 AM > To: Jason Dictos > Cc: 'freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org' > Subject: Re: How to use int 13 while BSD is running > > On Tuesday 09 March 2004 04:24 pm, Jason Dictos wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I'm investigating what resources are out there for accessing bios > > addressable devices while BSD is up and running. The situation is > > this, currently we licenses Caldera DOS for a program we wrote which > > uses the > > int13 extensions to manipulate the systems hard drive (i.e. to > > recover partition tables and what not). This forces our application > > to be written in 16 bit mode, but it does allows us to not have to > > worry about loading any driver which would be hardware specific to > > access the hard drive. Is there any way to write a driver for BSD > > which would put the processor into real mode, therefore allowing us > > to use the int > > 13 api of the bios to read and write hard drives? That way we could > > package a stripped down BSD kernel which loaded our driver and gave > > our application access to hard disks without having to load any > > device > > driver. > > > Apologies in advance if this is the wrong mailing list, > > Look at the loader in src/sys/boot. It is a 32-bit C app that uses BIOS > calls to access the disk. It uses a psuedo-kernel called BTX to > manage interrupts in vm86 mode and run BIOS code in vm86 mode. You > can probably port your software to being a custom loader that uses > boot2 to boot off of a floppy. You can also use cdboot to boot a > loader off of a CD or pxeboot to boot a loader image over the network. > The loader uses libstand which provides several useful things like > malloc/free, some basic filesystem support, etc. > > -- > John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ > "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > ______________________________________________________________________ > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > ______________________________________________________________________ -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. 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For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 15:30:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B41D16A4CF for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 15:30:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail55.messagelabs.com (mail55.messagelabs.com [216.82.240.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F6F243D49 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 15:30:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jason.dictos@yosemitetech.com) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: jason.dictos@yosemitetech.com X-Msg-Ref: server-11.tower-55.messagelabs.com!1078961443!1175046 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.15; banners=yosemitetech.com,-,- Received: (qmail 12293 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2004 23:30:43 -0000 Received: from mail.tapeware.com (HELO yt-internet.tapeware.com) (4.21.59.10) by server-11.tower-55.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 10 Mar 2004 23:30:43 -0000 Received: by mail.tapeware.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 15:33:52 -0800 Message-ID: From: Jason Dictos To: 'John Baldwin' , Jason Dictos Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 15:33:52 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain cc: "'freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: How to use int 13 while BSD is running X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 23:30:47 -0000 HI John, I think I am beginning to understand your original reply to my email. I think following your suggestions of using our code in a modified boot loader environment to pull the data we need from a bios addressable discs is the best idea so far. I wonder what kind of memory restrictions apply in this mode, our application would have to be stripped down to a single threaded app, possibly with a custom init flag for this mode, but then again our kernel would have to be custom compiled for this mode, just like it is now for dos mode. Now that I think about it, other then being able to compile in 32 bit mode, I wonder what kind of advantages this mode would give us from our current dos mode? We still have to seriously shrink it down and link into custom libraries to support this mode. -Jason -----Original Message----- From: John Baldwin [mailto:jhb@FreeBSD.org] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 2:30 PM To: Jason Dictos Cc: 'freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org' Subject: Re: How to use int 13 while BSD is running On Wednesday 10 March 2004 01:22 pm, Jason Dictos wrote: > Thanks for the reply, however I'm looking for a more DMPI style > interface while in protected mode. If we didn't need to be in > protected mode, then I'd just leave it the way it is-us booting into > DR DOS and using inline assembly to access int 13. However what we're > trying to do is move to a 32 bit kernel environment, while still > retaining access to realmode interrupts. The loader runs in protected mode. Basically, BTX is a small kernel that allows for a single protected mode task. That task can make BIOS calls, the real mode interrupt handlers are still used for device interrupts, etc. For example, see src/sys/boot/i386/libi386/biosdisk.c to see how it uses int13 to talk to the disks but from within a 32-bit protected mode app written in C. > -Jason > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Baldwin [mailto:jhb@FreeBSD.org] > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 7:52 AM > To: Jason Dictos > Cc: 'freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org' > Subject: Re: How to use int 13 while BSD is running > > On Tuesday 09 March 2004 04:24 pm, Jason Dictos wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I'm investigating what resources are out there for accessing bios > > addressable devices while BSD is up and running. The situation is > > this, currently we licenses Caldera DOS for a program we wrote which > > uses the > > int13 extensions to manipulate the systems hard drive (i.e. to > > recover partition tables and what not). This forces our application > > to be written in 16 bit mode, but it does allows us to not have to > > worry about loading any driver which would be hardware specific to > > access the hard drive. Is there any way to write a driver for BSD > > which would put the processor into real mode, therefore allowing us > > to use the int > > 13 api of the bios to read and write hard drives? That way we could > > package a stripped down BSD kernel which loaded our driver and gave > > our application access to hard disks without having to load any > > device > > driver. > > > Apologies in advance if this is the wrong mailing list, > > Look at the loader in src/sys/boot. It is a 32-bit C app that uses BIOS > calls to access the disk. It uses a psuedo-kernel called BTX to > manage interrupts in vm86 mode and run BIOS code in vm86 mode. You > can probably port your software to being a custom loader that uses > boot2 to boot off of a floppy. You can also use cdboot to boot a > loader off of a CD or pxeboot to boot a loader image over the network. > The loader uses libstand which provides several useful things like > malloc/free, some basic filesystem support, etc. > > -- > John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ > "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > ______________________________________________________________________ > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > ______________________________________________________________________ -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. 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For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 15:35:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAC1A16A4CE for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 15:35:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail55.messagelabs.com (mail55.messagelabs.com [216.82.240.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 56C0A43D2F for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 15:35:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jason.dictos@yosemitetech.com) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: jason.dictos@yosemitetech.com X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-55.messagelabs.com!1078961725!1175261 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.15; banners=yosemitetech.com,-,- Received: (qmail 12074 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2004 23:35:25 -0000 Received: from mail.tapeware.com (HELO yt-internet.tapeware.com) (4.21.59.10) by server-14.tower-55.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 10 Mar 2004 23:35:25 -0000 Received: by mail.tapeware.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 15:38:35 -0800 Message-ID: From: Jason Dictos To: 'John Baldwin' , Jason Dictos Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 15:38:34 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain cc: "'freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: How to use int 13 while BSD is running X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 23:35:30 -0000 So there are two basic goals that I am trying to achomplish here: 1. Read data from the disc we booted off of without worrying about having the right drivers running (in most cases this will be a ide cdrom image, or a tape drive emulating a cdrom [hp obdr]). 2. Write and modify the hosts boot disk (could be scsi, could be ide, must be bios addressable), once again without having to worry about having the right drivers running. 3. Do all this in a fully multi threaded 32 bit bsd environment. Are there any bios drivers for BSD that simply ensure a bios disk will be detected in a readable/writeable fassion? -Jason -----Original Message----- From: John Baldwin [mailto:jhb@FreeBSD.org] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 2:30 PM To: Jason Dictos Cc: 'freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org' Subject: Re: How to use int 13 while BSD is running On Wednesday 10 March 2004 01:22 pm, Jason Dictos wrote: > Thanks for the reply, however I'm looking for a more DMPI style > interface while in protected mode. If we didn't need to be in > protected mode, then I'd just leave it the way it is-us booting into > DR DOS and using inline assembly to access int 13. However what we're > trying to do is move to a 32 bit kernel environment, while still > retaining access to realmode interrupts. The loader runs in protected mode. Basically, BTX is a small kernel that allows for a single protected mode task. That task can make BIOS calls, the real mode interrupt handlers are still used for device interrupts, etc. For example, see src/sys/boot/i386/libi386/biosdisk.c to see how it uses int13 to talk to the disks but from within a 32-bit protected mode app written in C. > -Jason > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Baldwin [mailto:jhb@FreeBSD.org] > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 7:52 AM > To: Jason Dictos > Cc: 'freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org' > Subject: Re: How to use int 13 while BSD is running > > On Tuesday 09 March 2004 04:24 pm, Jason Dictos wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I'm investigating what resources are out there for accessing bios > > addressable devices while BSD is up and running. The situation is > > this, currently we licenses Caldera DOS for a program we wrote which > > uses the > > int13 extensions to manipulate the systems hard drive (i.e. to > > recover partition tables and what not). This forces our application > > to be written in 16 bit mode, but it does allows us to not have to > > worry about loading any driver which would be hardware specific to > > access the hard drive. Is there any way to write a driver for BSD > > which would put the processor into real mode, therefore allowing us > > to use the int > > 13 api of the bios to read and write hard drives? That way we could > > package a stripped down BSD kernel which loaded our driver and gave > > our application access to hard disks without having to load any > > device > > driver. > > > Apologies in advance if this is the wrong mailing list, > > Look at the loader in src/sys/boot. It is a 32-bit C app that uses BIOS > calls to access the disk. It uses a psuedo-kernel called BTX to > manage interrupts in vm86 mode and run BIOS code in vm86 mode. You > can probably port your software to being a custom loader that uses > boot2 to boot off of a floppy. You can also use cdboot to boot a > loader off of a CD or pxeboot to boot a loader image over the network. > The loader uses libstand which provides several useful things like > malloc/free, some basic filesystem support, etc. > > -- > John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ > "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > ______________________________________________________________________ > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > ______________________________________________________________________ -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. 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For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 21:00:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9565516A4CE for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 21:00:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2711743D1D for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 21:00:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from ec.rr.com (cpe-024-211-231-149.ec.rr.com [24.211.231.149]) i2B4xvs1025302; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 23:59:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <404FF295.8080601@ec.rr.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 00:01:09 -0500 From: Jason User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20040210 Thunderbird/0.4 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ludwig Schreier References: <200403111646.02640.lu.schreier@t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <200403111646.02640.lu.schreier@t-online.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: About the IBM R40e notebook and its harddrive, making strange sounds. X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 05:00:02 -0000 Ludwig Schreier wrote: >Hi community, > >it isn't easy to describe and actually it is not a serious problem, but what >is the UFS (Unix File System, FFS even?) doing every few minutes? > >My harddrive (I believe its a IBM harddrive, since the whole notebook is IBM) >makes strange sounds every 1-2 minutes if there is _no_ great load or system >activity. > >Don't laugh, but something like: > >"dack, dack." > >A frequent routine check ... ? > >I have read a bit about how harddrives work and what's in them, because I am >interessted in such things and what exactly is the reading header doing ? > >If the harddrive is driven by NTFS i.e., no sounds will occure. > >So the question is - because no major errors of hardware occured yet - does >this mean something to my harddrive or is it just how UFS is working with it? > >Thanks for help on this! :) > > > My ideas: 1.My first thought would be its ibm. If you remember reading about ibm drives dieing for no reason, it was because the heads would drift when idle and could hit the platter surface. To remedy this ibm released an updated bios for there drives that would randomly or every so often move the heads around when idle to keep the heads from drifting. 2.The drive maybe truly idle under bsd and not ntfs because winxp(is that what you have?) sechdules stuff and does stuff all the time. Or maybe the its the other way around? 3.It could be that the proper power settings are not set under bsd? XP stops the drive so there is no sounds, but bsd does not so now and then if a process needs the drive you get the "dack" access? Would "dack" be the normal sound for your drive, or is it only under this no load state? Also if you read up on soft updates and other drive settings you should find that as a feature of some setting drive writes are stored up and set in order in group to optimize performance. Thats all I got. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 21:26:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1B7116A4CE for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 21:26:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from salvador.pacific.net.sg (salvador.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D9E8543D1D for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 21:26:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 4496 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2004 05:26:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maxwell2.pacific.net.sg) (203.120.90.192) by with SMTP; 11 Mar 2004 05:26:24 -0000 Received: from pacific.net.sg ([210.24.203.19]) by maxwell2.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id <20040311052624.JXSW1277.maxwell2.pacific.net.sg@pacific.net.sg>; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 13:26:24 +0800 Message-ID: <404FF880.8090903@pacific.net.sg> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 13:26:24 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: oceanare pte ltd User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jason References: <200403111646.02640.lu.schreier@t-online.de> <404FF295.8080601@ec.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <404FF295.8080601@ec.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Ludwig Schreier cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: About the IBM R40e notebook and its harddrive, making strange sounds. X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 05:26:28 -0000 Hi, Jason wrote: >> My harddrive (I believe its a IBM harddrive, since the whole notebook >> is IBM) makes strange sounds every 1-2 minutes if there is _no_ great >> load or system activity. >> >> Don't laugh, but something like: >> >> "dack, dack." >> > 1.My first thought would be its ibm. If you remember reading about ibm > drives dieing for no reason, it was because the heads would drift when It is more the 3 1/2" drives. > Would "dack" be the normal sound for your drive, or is it only under It sounds like the normal operating sound. I have one 20 GB IBM drive since 2 years. The noise makes you jump but the drive still works. I moved it between notebooks and operating systems. It is always the same sound but it looks to me that the noise is less under FreeBSD. Erich From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 21:52:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CF3116A4CE for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 21:52:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail65.messagelabs.com (mail65.messagelabs.com [216.82.244.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B06843D1D for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 21:52:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jason.dictos@yosemitetech.com) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: jason.dictos@yosemitetech.com X-Msg-Ref: server-13.tower-65.messagelabs.com!1078984356!1108189 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.15; banners=yosemitetech.com,-,- Received: (qmail 17905 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2004 05:52:36 -0000 Received: from mail.tapeware.com (HELO yt-internet.tapeware.com) (4.21.59.10) by server-13.tower-65.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 11 Mar 2004 05:52:36 -0000 Received: by mail.tapeware.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 21:55:46 -0800 Message-ID: From: Jason Dictos To: 'John Baldwin ' , Jason Dictos Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 21:55:44 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: Checked X-Msg-Ref: Checked X-StarScan-Version: Checked X-SpamReason: Checked X-Spam-Checker-Version: Checked Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" cc: "''freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org' '" Subject: RE: How to use int 13 while BSD is running X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 05:52:38 -0000 Hello again. I did some reading on the pentium processor manual, and I think I finally understand what the set of vm86 functions do. They use the intel processors virtual 8086 processor compatability mode to issue virtual interrups. My question is now, what prevents such int 13 type interrups using the vm86 set of apis (as found in biosdisk.c, in the BTX loader code) from working from working in a standard BSD running system? -Jason -----Original Message----- From: John Baldwin To: Jason Dictos Cc: 'freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org' Sent: 3/10/2004 2:30 PM Subject: Re: How to use int 13 while BSD is running On Wednesday 10 March 2004 01:22 pm, Jason Dictos wrote: > Thanks for the reply, however I'm looking for a more DMPI style interface > while in protected mode. If we didn't need to be in protected mode, then > I'd just leave it the way it is-us booting into DR DOS and using inline > assembly to access int 13. However what we're trying to do is move to a 32 > bit kernel environment, while still retaining access to realmode > interrupts. The loader runs in protected mode. Basically, BTX is a small kernel that allows for a single protected mode task. That task can make BIOS calls, the real mode interrupt handlers are still used for device interrupts, etc. For example, see src/sys/boot/i386/libi386/biosdisk.c to see how it uses int13 to talk to the disks but from within a 32-bit protected mode app written in C. > -Jason > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Baldwin [mailto:jhb@FreeBSD.org] > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 7:52 AM > To: Jason Dictos > Cc: 'freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org' > Subject: Re: How to use int 13 while BSD is running > > On Tuesday 09 March 2004 04:24 pm, Jason Dictos wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I'm investigating what resources are out there for accessing bios > > addressable devices while BSD is up and running. The situation is > > this, currently we licenses Caldera DOS for a program we wrote which > > uses the > > int13 extensions to manipulate the systems hard drive (i.e. to recover > > partition tables and what not). This forces our application to be > > written in 16 bit mode, but it does allows us to not have to worry > > about loading any driver which would be hardware specific to access > > the hard drive. Is there any way to write a driver for BSD which would > > put the processor into real mode, therefore allowing us to use the int > > 13 api of the bios to read and write hard drives? That way we could > > package a stripped down BSD kernel which loaded our driver and gave > > our application access to hard disks without having to load any device > > driver. > > > Apologies in advance if this is the wrong mailing list, > > Look at the loader in src/sys/boot. It is a 32-bit C app that uses BIOS > calls to access the disk. It uses a psuedo-kernel called BTX to manage > interrupts in vm86 mode and run BIOS code in vm86 mode. You can probably > port your software to being a custom loader that uses boot2 to boot off of > a floppy. You can also use cdboot to boot a loader off of a CD or pxeboot > to boot a loader image over the network. The loader uses libstand which > provides several useful things like malloc/free, some basic filesystem > support, etc. > > -- > John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power > Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > ______________________________________________________________________ > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > ______________________________________________________________________ -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. 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For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 02:26:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@www.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D378416A4CE for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 02:26:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from server.rucus.ru.ac.za (server.rucus.ru.ac.za [146.231.115.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EFCDF43D31 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 02:26:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from guy@rucus.ru.ac.za) Received: (qmail 8862 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2004 10:26:33 -0000 Received: from shell-em0.rucus.ru.ac.za (guy@10.0.0.1) by server-em0.rucus.ru.ac.za with QMQP; 11 Mar 2004 10:26:33 -0000 Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 12:26:33 +0200 From: Guy Antony Halse To: freebsd-hardware@lists.freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040311102632.GA23078@rucus.ru.ac.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: D-Link DGE-550SX gigabit fibre NIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:26:53 -0000 Hi Does anyone know conclusively if the D-Link DGE-550SX gigabit fibre NIC works with FreeBSD (specifically FreeBSD 5.2)? My guess is that it should work with the nge(4) driver since, so far as I can tell, its the same chipset as the DGE-500T. It'd be nice to know this for sure before I go out and buy one though. I know I could go for other gigabit fibre NICs that are definitely known to work, such as the Intel PRO 1000/XF, but the difference in cost between the two makes finding this out worthwhile :) Thanks, - Guy -- Systems Manager, IT Division, Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa Email: G.Halse@ru.ac.za Web: http://mombe.org/ IRC: rm-rf@irc.zanet.net *** ANSI Standard Disclaimer *** J.A.P.H From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 09:52:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD23616A4CE for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 09:52:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from consystor2.razik.de (pD954811E.dip.t-dialin.net [217.84.129.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70DA743D41 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 09:52:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lukas@razik.de) Received: from consystor (consystor.razik.de [192.168.0.1]) by consystor2.razik.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA01214 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 18:52:00 +0100 From: lukas@razik.de To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 18:53:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4050B593.3628.237BFC@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Subject: 5.2.1-RELEASE hangs after 'agp0: mem 0-0x7ffffff at device 0.0 on pci0' X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 17:52:34 -0000 My system (laptop): CPU: P4 3.06GHz (HT enabled) Chipset: Intel 82865G/PE/P, 828485P DRAM Controller Graphic adapter: GF FX Go5350 Hi!!! If I try to boot from the '5.2.1-RELEASE-i386-miniinst.iso' the kernel hangs after outputting this message (with verbose logging): agp0: mem 0-0x7ffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 agp0: allocating GATT for aperture of size 128M Is there a way to start the kernel without AGP support? I had the same problem with NetBSD 1.6.2 but after disabling APM and AGP all works fine... Thnx! Lukas From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 10:06:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E405516A52C for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:06:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail6.speakeasy.net (mail6.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4DF43D41 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:06:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 21294 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2004 18:05:59 -0000 Received: from dsl027-160-063.atl1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) encrypted SMTP for ; 11 Mar 2004 18:05:59 -0000 Received: from 10.50.40.205 (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i2BI5h2D036973; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 13:05:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) From: John Baldwin To: Jason Dictos Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 12:32:42 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200403111232.42294.jhb@FreeBSD.org> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on server.baldwin.cx cc: "''freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org' '" Subject: Re: How to use int 13 while BSD is running X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 18:06:01 -0000 On Thursday 11 March 2004 12:55 am, Jason Dictos wrote: > Hello again. > > I did some reading on the pentium processor manual, and I think I > finally understand what the set of vm86 functions do. They use the intel > processors virtual 8086 processor compatability mode to issue virtual > interrups. My question is now, what prevents such int 13 type interrups > using the vm86 set of apis (as found in biosdisk.c, in the BTX loader code) > from working from working in a standard BSD running system? Well, for one thing, the BIOS drivers for your hardware are going to want working interrupts, and running in a full BSD kernel isn't going to give you that. Since BTX routes all interrupts via vm86 mode back to the original real mode interrupt handlers, it still works ok for any device that has a BIOS. It might be possible to achieve this with a BSD kernel but it would be a pain. One problem is that you don't know what IRQs the hardware is using. Note that the BTX user app has a mostly flat address space that allows it to get to everything above 0x10000 (I think that's the number, might be 0xa000). Trying to get multithreading plus vm86 interrupt handlers is going to require a good bit of work either way (either trying to let the kernel do vm86 interrupts or trying to extend BTX to allow multiple tasks). -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 18:11:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 114F716A4CE for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 18:11:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9987143D53 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 18:11:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from ec.rr.com (cpe-024-211-231-149.ec.rr.com [24.211.231.149]) i2C2BkkF026146; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 21:11:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <40511CAD.4070609@ec.rr.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 21:13:01 -0500 From: Jason User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20040210 Thunderbird/0.4 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lukas@razik.de References: <4050B593.3628.237BFC@localhost> In-Reply-To: <4050B593.3628.237BFC@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.2.1-RELEASE hangs after 'agp0: mem 0-0x7ffffff at device 0.0 on pci0' X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 02:11:50 -0000 lukas@razik.de wrote: >My system (laptop): >CPU: P4 3.06GHz (HT enabled) >Chipset: Intel 82865G/PE/P, 828485P DRAM Controller >Graphic adapter: GF FX Go5350 > > >Hi!!! > >If I try to boot from the '5.2.1-RELEASE-i386-miniinst.iso' the kernel hangs after outputting this message (with >verbose logging): >agp0: mem 0-0x7ffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 >agp0: allocating GATT for aperture of size 128M > >Is there a way to start the kernel without AGP support? >I had the same problem with NetBSD 1.6.2 but after disabling APM and AGP all works fine... > > >Thnx! >Lukas > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > That depends, is agp compiled in? If so you need to go into single user mode or safe mode and recompile. If it is a module just go to the boot prompt and stop agp from loading, then after you boot you can edit the loader.conf file so it never loads. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 01:59:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E364216A4CE for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 01:59:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.octapharma.se (smtp.octapharma.se [195.198.168.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A56D143D45 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 01:59:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Mikael.Gunnarsson@octapharma.se) Received: from sestosrv004p.ad.octapharma.se ([195.198.13.61] unverified) by smtp.octapharma.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 12 Mar 2004 11:02:05 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 10:58:59 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: About the IBM R40e notebook and its harddrive, making strange sounds. Thread-Index: AcQHKXPEHD/tTUliTpe2aW5e6bK/1QA7paMQ From: "Gunnarsson, Mikael" To: "Erich Dollansky" , "Jason" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Mar 2004 10:02:05.0359 (UTC) FILETIME=[12AA93F0:01C40819] cc: Ludwig Schreier cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: RE: About the IBM R40e notebook and its harddrive, making strange sounds. X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 09:59:03 -0000 > > Would "dack" be the normal sound for your drive, or is it > only un= der > > It sounds like the normal operating sound. I have one 20 GB I= BM > drive since 2 years. The noise makes you jump but the drive still = > works. I moved it between notebooks and operating systems. It is > = always the same sound but it looks to me that the noise is less > under= FreeBSD. I get the same weird clacking sound from my Thinkpad 240 wit= h a 6GB drive (most likely IBM too). It made me worried the first times, = but now I've had the machine for couple of months and it hasn't shown any= problems.. The previous owner used NT4 on the machine, but she never com= plained about any sound, so I don't know if it existed then or she just n= ever mentioned it.. M This email and any files transmitted with it ar= e confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entit= y to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error pl= ease notify the system manager. This message contains confidential inform= ation and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the n= amed addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail= . From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 02:32:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF20016A4CE for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 02:32:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from osiris.ipform.ru (osiris.itlegion.ru [212.248.52.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1C7443D1F for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 02:32:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) Received: from artem (artem.office.ipform.ru [192.168.0.12]) by osiris.ipform.ru (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id i2CAWUJ3083415 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 13:32:31 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) X-AntiVirus: Checked by Dr.Web (http://www.drweb.net) Message-ID: <002f01c4081c$bd720810$0c00a8c0@artem> From: "Artem Koutchine" To: References: Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 13:28:18 +0300 Organization: IT Legion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Multiprocessor system VS one processor system X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 10:32:33 -0000 Hi! I need to understand something very clear. As I understand FreeBSD (as of 4.9) runs one process per one CPU. This means, that if i have dual systems with 500Mhz CPUs one process can never run faster than on a single 500Mhz CPU. However, if i substitute those two CPUs with one 1000Mhz, that one process will run twice as fast than on dual 500Mhz, however, to box will become a bit less responsive, because in a dual box when one CPU is loaded, another one may have some spare time to respond. However, in case of very loaded box both CPUs a extremely loaded and the box will be as responsive as single 1000Mhz CPU box 100% loaded. So, according to what i just said there is not real reason to setup a dual CPU box under FREEBSD unless you want to have 5000Mhz box, but there is no CPU with such speed, so you put two 2500Mhz CPU in it and if you are running a lot of processes with short run periods you will get overal perfomance somewhere near 5000Mhz. However, when i subsituted two 500Mhz CPUs with 1500Mhz one (even with less 2nd level cache) on a heavy loaded web server i notice that sites started to load faster. So, it seems as one 3X Mhz CPU is faster that two X MHz CPUs, at least for web server with sql base and many perl scripts. So, there are two questions: 1) Am I right or am wrong? 2) Does FreeBSD 5.X run one process only on one CPU or it can run on thread of a process on one CPU and another thread on another CPU? Regards, Artem From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 02:39:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8CEE16A4CE for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 02:39:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from gunfright.epcdirect.co.uk (gunfright.epcdirect.co.uk [195.10.242.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5DC743D41 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 02:39:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-hw@epcdirect.co.uk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gunfright.epcdirect.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA6415507; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 10:39:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gunfright.epcdirect.co.uk ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 89511-10; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 10:39:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lfarr (host213-122-199-248.in-addr.btopenworld.com [213.122.199.248]) by gunfright.epcdirect.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1060D1551B; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 10:39:09 +0000 (GMT) From: "Lawrence Farr" To: "'Artem Koutchine'" , Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 10:39:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <002f01c4081c$bd720810$0c00a8c0@artem> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Thread-Index: AcQIHWOFbSi0oqFpSHijJjhQlXSiowAAJMMQ Message-Id: <20040312103909.1060D1551B@gunfright.epcdirect.co.uk> X-Virus-Scanned: by GunFright.EPCDirect.co.uk Subject: RE: Multiprocessor system VS one processor system X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 10:39:14 -0000 I think you need to take into account everything else that changed as well, memory speed, disk controllers etc. Lawrence Farr EPC Direct Limited > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of > Artem Koutchine > Sent: 12 March 2004 10:28 > To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org > Subject: Multiprocessor system VS one processor system > > Hi! > > I need to understand something very clear. > > As I understand FreeBSD (as of 4.9) runs one process > per one CPU. This means, that if i have dual systems > with 500Mhz CPUs one process can never run faster > than on a single 500Mhz CPU. However, if i substitute > those two CPUs with one 1000Mhz, that one process will run > twice as fast than on dual 500Mhz, however, to box will > become a bit less responsive, because in a dual box > when one CPU is loaded, another one may have some > spare time to respond. However, in case of very loaded > box both CPUs a extremely loaded and the box will > be as responsive as single 1000Mhz CPU box 100% loaded. > So, according to what i just said there is not real reason to > setup a dual CPU box under FREEBSD unless you want to > have 5000Mhz box, but there is no CPU with such speed, so > you put two 2500Mhz CPU in it and if you are running a lot > of processes with short run periods you will get overal > perfomance somewhere near 5000Mhz. However, when i > subsituted two 500Mhz CPUs with 1500Mhz one (even with > less 2nd level cache) on a heavy loaded web server i notice > that sites started to load faster. So, it seems as > one 3X Mhz CPU is faster that two X MHz CPUs, at least > for web server with sql base and many perl scripts. > > So, there are two questions: > 1) Am I right or am wrong? > 2) Does FreeBSD 5.X run one process only on one CPU > or it can run on thread of a process on one CPU and another > thread on another CPU? > > Regards, > Artem > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 05:51:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4588016A4CE for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 05:51:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB5B43D4C for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 05:51:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lgusenet@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.no-ip.com ([66.30.196.44]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2004031213512701100ghbtme>; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 13:51:31 +0000 Received: by be-well.no-ip.com (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 37B7C12; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 08:51:27 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: lukas@razik.de References: <4050B593.3628.237BFC@localhost> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 12 Mar 2004 08:51:27 -0500 In-Reply-To: <4050B593.3628.237BFC@localhost> Message-ID: <44ad2mnpgg.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 37 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.2.1-RELEASE hangs after 'agp0: mem 0-0x7ffffff at device 0.0 on pci0' X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 13:51:32 -0000 lukas@razik.de writes: > My system (laptop): > CPU: P4 3.06GHz (HT enabled) > Chipset: Intel 82865G/PE/P, 828485P DRAM Controller > Graphic adapter: GF FX Go5350 > > > Hi!!! > > If I try to boot from the '5.2.1-RELEASE-i386-miniinst.iso' the kernel hangs after outputting this message (with > verbose logging): > agp0: mem 0-0x7ffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 > agp0: allocating GATT for aperture of size 128M > > Is there a way to start the kernel without AGP support? No. This is something of a problem, because some AGP implementations (including the one on my laptop) will lock up or crash during the AGP probe. In my case, I confirmed that the AGP device was definitely flaky, because the CPU locked up on a simple register read. I corresponded a bit with FreeBSD's main AGP developer, but we didn't get much of anywhere. I documented the problems in my system at http://be-well.ilk.org:8088/systuff/laptop-problems.html One thing you can do is start the install from floppies, which have a more minimal kernel, without AGP. If that ever changes, some of us will have a real problem. I don't really understand why AGP should be in the GENERIC kernel, anyway, since it loads fine as a module, but I don't want to make too much of a fuss. After all, I *did* get my system going, albeit through a procedure that's clearly too much to expect of a first-time user. > I had the same problem with NetBSD 1.6.2 but after disabling APM and AGP all works fine... Try disabling ACPI on FreeBSD 5.2.1. That may leave your AGP chip a little less confused... From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 07:20:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EAD216A4CE for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 07:20:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from melon.pingpong.net (82.milagro.bahnhof.net [195.178.168.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA1043D2D for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 07:20:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from girgen@pingpong.net) Received: from melon.pingpong.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by melon.pingpong.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i2CFKXsv090571 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 16:20:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from girgen@pingpong.net) X-Real-To: Received: (from nobody@localhost) by melon.pingpong.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id i2CFKXef090570 for hardware@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 16:20:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from girgen@pingpong.net) X-Authentication-Warning: melon.pingpong.net: nobody set sender to girgen@pingpong.net using -f Received: from 81.milagro.bahnhof.net (81.milagro.bahnhof.net [195.178.168.81]) by webmail.pingpong.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 16:20:32 +0100 Message-ID: <1079104832.4051d540d64ba@webmail.pingpong.net> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 16:20:32 +0100 From: Palle Girgensohn To: hardware@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.1 / FreeBSD-4.8 X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-PINGPONG: Found to be clean Subject: S-ATA on ASUS A7N8X-E & FreeBSD 4.9? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 15:20:35 -0000 Hi, Can I run S-ATA on the mentioned motherboard, using FreeBSD 4.9? It has a Silicon Image Sil 3112A controller. It seems from the specs that I *have* to run RAID. Is this so? I didn't plan to RAID, just simple S-ATA in this case. /Palle From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 07:29:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2B6F16A4E9 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 07:29:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from dd2314.kasserver.com (dd2314.kasserver.com [81.209.184.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 903B043D31 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 07:29:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from outi@outi.echsi.de) Received: from outi.echsi.de (unknown [217.6.14.10]) by dd2314.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D4848DEED; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 16:29:20 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4051D745.6020308@outi.echsi.de> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 16:29:09 +0100 From: Patrick Hurrelmann User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (Windows/20040207) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Palle Girgensohn References: <1079104832.4051d540d64ba@webmail.pingpong.net> In-Reply-To: <1079104832.4051d540d64ba@webmail.pingpong.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: S-ATA on ASUS A7N8X-E & FreeBSD 4.9? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 15:29:27 -0000 Palle Girgensohn wrote: > Hi, > > Can I run S-ATA on the mentioned motherboard, using FreeBSD 4.9? It has a > Silicon Image Sil 3112A controller. > > It seems from the specs that I *have* to run RAID. Is this so? I didn't plan > to RAID, just simple S-ATA in this case. > > /Palle > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > simple sata-functionality should work. raid will not work with this chipset. but please correct me if i'm wrong. patrick From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 08:15:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35C2F16A4CE for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 08:15:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from durian.pingpong.net (81.milagro.bahnhof.net [195.178.168.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B23B43D2F for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 08:15:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from girgen@pingpong.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by durian.pingpong.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i2CGF78E000458; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 17:15:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from girgen@pingpong.net) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 17:15:07 +0100 From: Palle Girgensohn To: Patrick Hurrelmann Message-ID: <1880000.1079108107@durian.pingpong.net> In-Reply-To: <4051D745.6020308@outi.echsi.de> References: <1079104832.4051d540d64ba@webmail.pingpong.net> <4051D745.6020308@outi.echsi.de> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.0 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: S-ATA on ASUS A7N8X-E & FreeBSD 4.9? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 16:15:11 -0000 What driver should I put in the kernel? FreeBSD-4.9 does not find it with my config. /Palle --On Friday, March 12, 2004 16:29:09 +0100 Patrick Hurrelmann wrote: > Palle Girgensohn wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Can I run S-ATA on the mentioned motherboard, using FreeBSD 4.9? It has >> a Silicon Image Sil 3112A controller. >> >> It seems from the specs that I *have* to run RAID. Is this so? I didn't >> plan to RAID, just simple S-ATA in this case. >> >> /Palle >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > simple sata-functionality should work. raid will not work with this > chipset. > > but please correct me if i'm wrong. > > patrick > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 09:02:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56F3D16A4CF for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 09:02:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from cobra.acceleratedweb.net (cobra-gw.acceleratedweb.net [207.99.79.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BB03143D45 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 09:02:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: (qmail 53054 invoked by uid 110); 12 Mar 2004 17:02:12 -0000 Received: from ool-18baaf5c.dyn.optonline.net (HELO win2kpc1) (24.186.175.92) by cobra.acceleratedweb.net with SMTP; 12 Mar 2004 17:02:12 -0000 From: "Simon" To: "Artem Koutchine" , "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 12:02:43 -0500 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2661) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2195;4) In-Reply-To: <002f01c4081c$bd720810$0c00a8c0@artem> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20040312170213.BB03143D45@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: Multiprocessor system VS one processor system X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 17:02:14 -0000 While FreeBSD 4.9 can only run one process per CPU, in a multi-user environment, you will have multiple processes running on multiple CPUs at the same time. You can't do this with 1 CPU, even if that one CPU is faster. Of course, an outdated dual CPU server is not a lot faster than a 2x+ faster newer single CPU server. FreeBSD 5.x is going to change this all, read: http://www.lemis.com/grog/SMPng/Singapore/paper.pdf -Simon On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 13:28:18 +0300, Artem Koutchine wrote: >Hi! > >I need to understand something very clear. > >As I understand FreeBSD (as of 4.9) runs one process >per one CPU. This means, that if i have dual systems >with 500Mhz CPUs one process can never run faster >than on a single 500Mhz CPU. However, if i substitute >those two CPUs with one 1000Mhz, that one process will run >twice as fast than on dual 500Mhz, however, to box will >become a bit less responsive, because in a dual box >when one CPU is loaded, another one may have some >spare time to respond. However, in case of very loaded >box both CPUs a extremely loaded and the box will >be as responsive as single 1000Mhz CPU box 100% loaded. >So, according to what i just said there is not real reason to >setup a dual CPU box under FREEBSD unless you want to >have 5000Mhz box, but there is no CPU with such speed, so >you put two 2500Mhz CPU in it and if you are running a lot >of processes with short run periods you will get overal >perfomance somewhere near 5000Mhz. However, when i >subsituted two 500Mhz CPUs with 1500Mhz one (even with >less 2nd level cache) on a heavy loaded web server i notice >that sites started to load faster. So, it seems as >one 3X Mhz CPU is faster that two X MHz CPUs, at least >for web server with sql base and many perl scripts. > >So, there are two questions: >1) Am I right or am wrong? >2) Does FreeBSD 5.X run one process only on one CPU >or it can run on thread of a process on one CPU and another >thread on another CPU? > >Regards, >Artem >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 09:13:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A24B516A4CE for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 09:13:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from copper.ucsc.edu (copper.ucsc.edu [128.114.129.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E7AA43D1D for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 09:13:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brianm@moffetimages.com) Received: by copper.ucsc.edu (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.8) with PIPE id 2152416; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 09:13:29 -0800 Received: from [128.114.20.94] (HELO moffetimages.com) by copper.ucsc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 2152405; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 09:13:17 -0800 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 09:13:43 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) To: "Simon" From: Brian D.Moffet In-Reply-To: <20040312170213.BB03143D45@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <9D5B14F0-7448-11D8-80C3-000A957CD220@moffetimages.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-UCSC-CATS-MailScanner-Information: This message was scanned by Mailscanner X-UCSC-CATS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UCSC-CATS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-4.9, required 8, BAYES_00 -4.90) cc: Artem Koutchine cc: "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Multiprocessor system VS one processor system X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 17:13:31 -0000 If I remember correctly, FreeBSD (4.8 I believe) will run multiple threads of one process on multiple CPUs, correct? Or am I seeing something very odd on my multi-thread test (with 2 CPUs)? Brian On Friday, March 12, 2004, at 09:02 AM, Simon wrote: > > While FreeBSD 4.9 can only run one process per CPU, in a multi-user > environment, you will have multiple processes running on multiple CPUs > at the same time. You can't do this with 1 CPU, even if that one CPU > is faster. Of course, an outdated dual CPU server is not a lot faster > than > a 2x+ faster newer single CPU server. -- Brian D. Moffet -- Film and Digital Media Dept. 1156 High Street, Santa Cruz CA 95064 831-459-4242 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 09:36:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F26416A4CE for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 09:36:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta1.lbl.gov (mta1.lbl.gov [128.3.41.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B66B43D41 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 09:36:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from j_guojun@lbl.gov) Received: from mta1.lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mta1.lbl.gov (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i2CHabwb023820 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 09:36:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from lbl.gov (gracie.lbl.gov [131.243.2.175]) by mta1.lbl.gov (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i2CHabam023815; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 09:36:37 -0800 (PST) Sender: jin@lbl.gov Message-ID: <4051F524.619DAACD@lbl.gov> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 09:36:36 -0800 From: "Jin Guojun [DSD]" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: zh, zh-CN, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Brian D.Moffet" References: <9D5B14F0-7448-11D8-80C3-000A957CD220@moffetimages.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Artem Koutchine cc: "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Multiprocessor system VS one processor system X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 17:36:40 -0000 I do not think FreeBSD has yet supported SMP thread, which I hoped to happen for a long time. -Jin "Brian D.Moffet" wrote: > If I remember correctly, FreeBSD (4.8 I believe) will run multiple > threads of one process on multiple CPUs, correct? Or am I seeing > something very odd on my multi-thread test (with 2 CPUs)? > > Brian > > On Friday, March 12, 2004, at 09:02 AM, Simon wrote: > > > > > While FreeBSD 4.9 can only run one process per CPU, in a multi-user > > environment, you will have multiple processes running on multiple CPUs > > at the same time. You can't do this with 1 CPU, even if that one CPU > > is faster. Of course, an outdated dual CPU server is not a lot faster > > than > > a 2x+ faster newer single CPU server. > > -- > Brian D. Moffet -- Film and Digital Media Dept. > 1156 High Street, Santa Cruz CA 95064 > 831-459-4242 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 10:01:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DE9D16A4CE for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 10:01:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from copper.ucsc.edu (copper.ucsc.edu [128.114.129.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10A6A43D45 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 10:01:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brianm@moffetimages.com) Received: by copper.ucsc.edu (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.8) with PIPE id 2153296; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 10:01:34 -0800 Received: from [128.114.20.94] (HELO moffetimages.com) by copper.ucsc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 2153297; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 10:01:26 -0800 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 10:01:52 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) To: "Jin Guojun [DSD]" From: Brian D.Moffet In-Reply-To: <4051F524.619DAACD@lbl.gov> Message-Id: <57373EA4-744F-11D8-80C3-000A957CD220@moffetimages.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-UCSC-CATS-MailScanner-Information: This message was scanned by Mailscanner X-UCSC-CATS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UCSC-CATS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-4.9, required 8, BAYES_00 -4.90) cc: Artem Koutchine cc: "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Multiprocessor system VS one processor system X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 18:01:34 -0000 Curious, Hmm, if that's true, then I'll have to check and see what is going on. I have a program which gains about 30 percent increase in speed by turning on threads with a dual-CPU FreeBSD 4.8 system. It's a simple mandelbrot generator, with two threads, one starting at the beginning going forward, and one starting at the end and going backward. Brian On Friday, March 12, 2004, at 09:36 AM, Jin Guojun [DSD] wrote: > I do not think FreeBSD has yet supported SMP thread, which I hoped > to happen for a long time. -- Brian D. Moffet -- Film and Digital Media Dept. 1156 High Street, Santa Cruz CA 95064 831-459-4242 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 13:46:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15CBC16A4D0 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 13:46:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.newlines.ru (unknown [195.54.211.132]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB0743D41 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 13:46:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anton@nikiforov.ru) Received: from mail.newlines.ru (root@localhost) by mail.newlines.ru (8.12.10/8.12.9) with SMTP id i2CLkbFA099067 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 21:46:37 GMT (envelope-from anton@nikiforov.ru) Received: from nikiforov.ru (florent-mashin.rmt.ru [81.13.8.34]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.newlines.ru (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i2CLkaRA098962; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 21:46:36 GMT (envelope-from anton@nikiforov.ru) Message-ID: <40522FB6.2080105@nikiforov.ru> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 00:46:30 +0300 From: Anton Nikiforov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; ru-RU; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040307 X-Accept-Language: ru-ru, ru, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms080009070401080707000204" Subject: Unknown hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: anton@nikiforov.ru List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 21:46:39 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms080009070401080707000204 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear All! Can someone help me with the following hardware found in my Compaq Presario 2585: (OS is FreeBSD-5.2.1-p1, i tried 4.9 before, but some hardware even should not work there like a BlueTooth adapter and WiFi) pci1: at device 5.0 (no driver attached) VESA: v2.0, 131008k memory, flags:0x1, mode table:0xc077ec82 (1000022) VESA: ATI RS200M Is this normal? My friend have NEC notebook with the same Radion card, and he is loading i128.ko driver and everything become fine, while i canot fix this with i128 or radeon moduls. Looks like this should be a Connexant 56K MiniPCI modem, but what should i do to have a /dev/cuaaX and /dev/ttyX to access this modem? pci0: at device 8.0 (no driver attached) This is WiFi adapter (if i'm right) it should be Boardcom 802.11b/g MiniPCI but ath driver is not working with it. pci0: at device 9.0 (no driver attached) I cannon understand what is this. I have uhci and ohci devices compiled into the kernel and two usb buses (3 connectors) are working just fine, but what is this for? pci0: at device 11.2 (no driver attached) Why do i need this bridge? And what it is for? Maybe for docking? pci0: at device 17.0 (no driver attached) In addition - i have ALPM that do not want to initialize clearly, alpm0: port 0xbc00-0xbcff at device 17.0 on pci0 alpm0: failed to enable port mapping! alpm0: Could not allocate Bus space device_probe_and_attach: alpm0 attach returned 6 And acpi that cannot correctly show battery/power status. 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Fri, 12 Mar 2004 14:33:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.des.no (flood.des.no [217.116.83.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D76D43D31; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 14:33:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: by smtp.des.no (Pony Express, from userid 666) id 4AD54530E; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 23:33:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from dwp.des.no (des.no [80.203.228.37]) by smtp.des.no (Pony Express) with ESMTP id E444A530A; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 23:33:19 +0100 (CET) Received: by dwp.des.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id C325F33CA6; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 23:33:19 +0100 (CET) To: anton@nikiforov.ru References: <40522FB6.2080105@nikiforov.ru> From: des@des.no (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?q?Sm=F8rgrav?=) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 23:33:19 +0100 In-Reply-To: <40522FB6.2080105@nikiforov.ru> (Anton Nikiforov's message of "Sat, 13 Mar 2004 00:46:30 +0300") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.090024 (Oort Gnus v0.24) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on flood.des.no X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.63 cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unknown hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 22:33:28 -0000 Anton Nikiforov writes: > Looks like this should be a Connexant 56K MiniPCI modem, but what > should i do to have a /dev/cuaaX and /dev/ttyX to access this modem? > pci0: at device 8.0 (no driver attached) We don't support WinModems. > This is WiFi adapter (if i'm right) it should be Boardcom 802.11b/g > MiniPCI but ath driver is not working with it. > pci0: at device 9.0 (no driver attached) You have to use the Windows driver for that one (-CURRENT has NDIS support). > I cannon understand what is this. I have uhci and ohci devices > compiled into the kernel and two usb buses (3 connectors) are working > just fine, but what is this for? > pci0: at device 11.2 (no driver attached) USB 2.0 (ehci) > And acpi that cannot correctly show battery/power status. Hrmf, I'd say try -CURRENT; if that still doesn't help, post your DSDT. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 18:10:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD7116A4CE for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 18:10:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from amsfep17-int.chello.nl (amsfep17-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E48F843D41 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 18:10:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from girgen@pingpong.net) Received: from palle.girgensohn.se ([213.89.137.38]) by amsfep17-int.chello.nlESMTP <20040313021044.JAVZ9102.amsfep17-int.chello.nl@palle.girgensohn.se>; Sat, 13 Mar 2004 03:10:44 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palle.girgensohn.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i2D2Ag0k003779; Sat, 13 Mar 2004 03:10:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from girgen@pingpong.net) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 03:10:42 +0100 From: Palle Girgensohn To: Palle Girgensohn , Patrick Hurrelmann Message-ID: <4030000.1079143842@palle.girgensohn.se> In-Reply-To: <1880000.1079108107@durian.pingpong.net> References: <1079104832.4051d540d64ba@webmail.pingpong.net> <4051D745.6020308@outi.echsi.de> <1880000.1079108107@durian.pingpong.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.0 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: S-ATA on ASUS A7N8X-E & FreeBSD 4.9? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 02:10:47 -0000 I've checked around, and it seems there is nothing in 4.9 to support it, but well in 5.2.x. /Palle --On fredag, mars 12, 2004 17.15.07 +0100 Palle Girgensohn wrote: > What driver should I put in the kernel? FreeBSD-4.9 does not find it with > my config. > > /Palle > > --On Friday, March 12, 2004 16:29:09 +0100 Patrick Hurrelmann > wrote: > >> Palle Girgensohn wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Can I run S-ATA on the mentioned motherboard, using FreeBSD 4.9? It has >>> a Silicon Image Sil 3112A controller. >>> >>> It seems from the specs that I *have* to run RAID. Is this so? I didn't >>> plan to RAID, just simple S-ATA in this case. >>> >>> /Palle >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >> >> >> simple sata-functionality should work. raid will not work with this >> chipset. >> >> but please correct me if i'm wrong. >> >> patrick >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 18:20:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA0F416A4CE; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 18:20:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from amsfep17-int.chello.nl (amsfep17-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A338E43D2F; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 18:20:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from girgen@pingpong.net) Received: from palle.girgensohn.se ([213.89.137.38]) by amsfep17-int.chello.nlESMTP <20040313022021.JDPG9102.amsfep17-int.chello.nl@palle.girgensohn.se>; Sat, 13 Mar 2004 03:20:21 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palle.girgensohn.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i2D2KLYK003794; Sat, 13 Mar 2004 03:20:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from girgen@pingpong.net) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 03:20:21 +0100 From: Palle Girgensohn To: stable@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: <6700000.1079144421@palle.girgensohn.se> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.0 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Backporting S-ATA driver SiI 3112a to FreeBSD-STABLE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 02:20:23 -0000 Hi, I've received a bunch of ASUS A7N8X-E deluxe together with Serial ATA hard disks. I had planned to run 4.9 on this combo, but it seems the Serial ATA support for this driver does not exist before 5.x or so. The controller is a SiI 3112a from Silicon Image. Is there any chance of backporting this driver to -STABLE? At a glance, it seems like a lot of work? We will use these machines as developer workstations, and need them to have the same major FreeBSD revision as our customer servers, so we must really run FreeBSD 4.x. Hence, I have two choices, either backporting the SiS 3112a driver from -CURRENT, or trying to get the store to accept trading the harddisks for plain old parallel ATA ones. Also, I've read a few pretty bad judgements about this controller from some individuals. Is this true in any way? Suggestions and input appreciated. Thanks, Palle From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 20:29:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C9A16A4CE; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 20:29:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.svzserv.kemerovo.su (www.svzserv.kemerovo.su [213.184.65.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1833B43D1D; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 20:29:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eugen@kuzbass.ru) Received: from kuzbass.ru (kost [213.184.65.82])i2D4T5UM061399; Sat, 13 Mar 2004 11:29:06 +0700 (KRAT) (envelope-from eugen@kuzbass.ru) Message-ID: <40528DDD.CB8E3287@kuzbass.ru> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 11:28:13 +0700 From: Eugene Grosbein Organization: SVZServ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 50Hz vertical refresh rate text mode with VO-enabled video cards X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 04:29:10 -0000 Hi! Is there someone interested in fixing the problem? Here is a small patch: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=43930 Eugene Grosbein P.S. I'm not subscribed to the list. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 23:59:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46CC416A4CE; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 23:59:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-out-02.utu.fi (smtp-out-02.utu.fi [130.232.202.172]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACCEE43D31; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 23:59:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from ispro.net.tr (perpetual.yok.utu.fi [130.232.138.155]) by smtp02.mess.utu.fi (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003)) with ESMTPS id <0HUI001SK8UOJ3@smtp02.mess.utu.fi>; Sat, 13 Mar 2004 09:59:13 +0200 (EET) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 09:59:17 +0200 From: Evren Yurtesen In-reply-to: <6700000.1079144421@palle.girgensohn.se> To: Palle Girgensohn Message-id: <4052BF55.3070900@ispro.net.tr> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030808 References: <6700000.1079144421@palle.girgensohn.se> cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backporting S-ATA driver SiI 3112a to FreeBSD-STABLE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 07:59:16 -0000 Well, Sil3112a is quite crappy sata controller :) I think it wouldnt worth backporting the driver at all. I have had exactly the same mainboard and I got sick of the SATA errors I get, and just trashed the board and got a new one. I am now happy :) Your best option seams to be changing your drives to PATA. This will save you from some future problems like losing data also :) Evren Palle Girgensohn wrote: > Hi, > > I've received a bunch of ASUS A7N8X-E deluxe together with Serial ATA > hard disks. I had planned to run 4.9 on this combo, but it seems the > Serial ATA support for this driver does not exist before 5.x or so. The > controller is a SiI 3112a from Silicon Image. > > Is there any chance of backporting this driver to -STABLE? At a glance, > it seems like a lot of work? > > We will use these machines as developer workstations, and need them to > have the same major FreeBSD revision as our customer servers, so we must > really run FreeBSD 4.x. Hence, I have two choices, either backporting > the SiS 3112a driver from -CURRENT, or trying to get the store to accept > trading the harddisks for plain old parallel ATA ones. > > Also, I've read a few pretty bad judgements about this controller from > some individuals. Is this true in any way? > > Suggestions and input appreciated. > > Thanks, > Palle > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 13 05:03:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 942F316A4CF; Sat, 13 Mar 2004 05:03:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from grosbein.pp.ru (grgw.svzserv.kemerovo.su [213.184.64.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2045443D2F; Sat, 13 Mar 2004 05:03:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.pp.ru) Received: from grosbein.pp.ru (eugen@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grosbein.pp.ru (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i2DD3FFf000749; Sat, 13 Mar 2004 20:03:15 +0700 (KRAT) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.pp.ru) Received: (from eugen@localhost) by grosbein.pp.ru (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i2DD3FQo000748; Sat, 13 Mar 2004 20:03:15 +0700 (KRAT) (envelope-from eugen) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 20:03:15 +0700 From: Eugene Grosbein To: hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040313130315.GA734@grosbein.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <40528DDD.CB8E3287@kuzbass.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 50Hz vertical refresh rate text mode with VO-enabled X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 13:03:19 -0000 > Is there someone interested in fixing the problem? > Here is a small patch: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=43930 Sorry, cut & paste error. Right URL: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=64198 Eugene Grosbein From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 13 08:34:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84A0916A4CE for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2004 08:34:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from sushi.rural-networks.com (sushi.rural-networks.com [62.128.181.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4428D43D45 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2004 08:34:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr) Received: from hexanet.fr (localhost.rural-networks.com [127.0.0.1]) i2DGXwtg051185 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2004 17:34:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 17:33:58 +0100 From: Christophe Prevotaux To: hardware@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20040313173358.7fa30563.c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr> Organization: HEXANET Sarl X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.8) X-NCC-RegID: fr.hexanet Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Digium X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 16:34:14 -0000 Hi, Is there a driver for FreeBSD STABLE or CURRENT for=20 the Wildcard TE405P or TE410P made by Digium ?=20 -- =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Christophe Prevotaux Email : c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr HEXANET SARL URL : http://www.hexanet.fr/ Z.A.C Les Charmilles Tel : +33 (0)3 26 79 30 05=20 3 All=E9e Thierry Sabine Direct: +33 (0)3 26 61 77 72=20 BP202 Fax : +33 (0)3 26 79 30 06 51686 Reims Cedex 2 =20 FRANCE HEXANET Network Operation Center =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 13 09:56:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A55516A4CE; Sat, 13 Mar 2004 09:56:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from meitner.wh.uni-dortmund.de (meitner.wh.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.129.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B6BF43D2D; Sat, 13 Mar 2004 09:56:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Received: from lofi.dyndns.org (pc2-105.intern.meitner [10.3.12.105]) by meitner.wh.uni-dortmund.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 431FE167587; Sat, 13 Mar 2004 18:56:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.8.4] (kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i2DHuMSb022995 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 13 Mar 2004 18:56:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) From: Michael Nottebrock To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 18:56:19 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.1 References: <6700000.1079144421@palle.girgensohn.se> In-Reply-To: <6700000.1079144421@palle.girgensohn.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Boundary-02=_Gt0UAPtPBhcL0yB"; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200403131856.22241.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new cc: hardware@freebsd.org cc: Palle Girgensohn Subject: Re: Backporting S-ATA driver SiI 3112a to FreeBSD-STABLE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 17:56:26 -0000 --Boundary-02=_Gt0UAPtPBhcL0yB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday 13 March 2004 03:20, Palle Girgensohn wrote: > Also, I've read a few pretty bad judgements about this controller from so= me > individuals. Is this true in any way? Very. The company even has a history in awful ata hardware - remember the=20 CMD640? It still has a quite prominent place in the Linux kernel config... =2D-=20 ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org --Boundary-02=_Gt0UAPtPBhcL0yB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBAU0tGXhc68WspdLARAnLeAJ4iVD9M08TWDdI9ztQPE71QGatH3gCfSEHW N752zdSYSs4sKSfHmtalTgA= =usWT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Boundary-02=_Gt0UAPtPBhcL0yB-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 13 13:01:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 754A416A4CE for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2004 13:01:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mars.webnext.com (mars.webnext.com [213.161.193.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15D5043D2F for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2004 13:01:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from apignard@frontier.fr) Received: from alfarn-153ede4f.frontier.fr (alfortville-6-82-66-251-138.fbx.proxad.net [82.66.251.138]) by mars.webnext.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F259BE56; Sat, 13 Mar 2004 22:01:25 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <6.0.3.0.2.20040313220140.074eae60@213.161.193.184> X-Sender: arnaud@213.161.193.184 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.3.0 Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 22:02:59 +0100 To: Christophe Prevotaux , hardware@freebsd.org From: Arnaud Pignard In-Reply-To: <20040313173358.7fa30563.c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr> References: <20040313173358.7fa30563.c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Digium X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 21:01:33 -0000 Hi, No. Also Asterisk is not very stable currently on FreeBSD (if it's for use= =20 with Asterisk). Regards, At 17:33 13/03/2004, Christophe Prevotaux wrote: >Hi, > >Is there a driver for FreeBSD STABLE or CURRENT for >the Wildcard TE405P or TE410P made by Digium ? > >-- >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >Christophe Prevotaux Email : c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr >HEXANET SARL URL : http://www.hexanet.fr/ >Z.A.C Les Charmilles Tel : +33 (0)3 26 79 30 05 >3 All=E9e Thierry Sabine Direct: +33 (0)3 26 61 77 72 >BP202 Fax : +33 (0)3 26 79 30 06 >51686 Reims Cedex 2 >FRANCE HEXANET Network Operation Center >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"