From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 25 06:36:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D9316A4CE for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 06:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wax.groove.nu (213.237.91.103.adsl.brh.worldonline.dk [213.237.91.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE3A43D39 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dvp@wax.groove.nu) Received: by wax.groove.nu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 99CE279A; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 15:37:30 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 15:37:30 +0200 From: "Daniel V. Pedersen" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040425133730.GA18858@wax.groove.nu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Boot hangs on a Embedded System box fra Lex Systems (CV860A) after loader NPX0. X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 13:36:58 -0000 ... anyone experienced this problem? I've tried tinker with different options but after a soft reset it hangs. Funny thing is, if i do a `boot kernel' from the loader it boots fine. Ps. Sorry if this question should have been posted to a different list. /Dan. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 25 20:23:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7775C16A4CE for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 20:23:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ebb.errno.com (ebb.errno.com [66.127.85.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 370B543D5E for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 20:23:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Received: from [66.127.85.89] ([66.127.85.89]) (authenticated bits=0) by ebb.errno.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id i3Q3N0WR046271 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 25 Apr 2004 20:23:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) In-Reply-To: References: <44658B20-9610-11D8-AAEB-000A95AD0668@errno.com> <6.0.3.0.0.20040424142123.07bf3db0@64.7.153.2> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v613) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <089AEBC9-9731-11D8-BD30-000A95AD0668@errno.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Sam Leffler Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 20:23:06 -0700 To: Mike Tancsa X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FAST_IPSEC bug fix X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 03:23:01 -0000 On Apr 25, 2004, at 7:39 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote: > On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 12:58:14 -0700, in sentex.lists.freebsd.hackers > you wrote: >> >> Running FAST IPSEC w/o h/w crypto is still faster than KAME IPsec. >> See >> the results in my BSDCon paper. >> >> Sam > > But there is no one to maintain and merge bugfixes into FAST_IPSEC > from KAME The KAME stack might be slower, but there is active > (relative to FAST_IPSEC) development. You said that because of a bug w/ the hifn card that you cannot/will not use FAST IPsec. I said that's not a reason to not use it, that even w/o hardware acceleration it's still faster than KAME. Unfortunately the policy is that I cannot MFC something w/o it first going in -current. I'll try to test the change under -current this week but if someone else could do it then a commit would happen sooner. Sam From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 25 20:38:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A3CC16A4CE for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 20:38:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp3b.sentex.ca (smtp3b.sentex.ca [205.211.164.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34A1743D4C for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 20:38:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from avscan2.sentex.ca (avscan2.sentex.ca [199.212.134.19]) by smtp3b.sentex.ca (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3Q3bvoJ004993; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 23:37:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by avscan2.sentex.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198DA59C99; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 23:37:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from avscan2.sentex.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (avscan2.sentex.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 10276-14; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 23:37:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lava.sentex.ca (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by avscan2.sentex.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 018BF59C94; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 23:37:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from simian.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [192.168.43.27]) by lava.sentex.ca (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3Q3budF060766; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 23:37:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <6.0.3.0.0.20040425232714.08d1a250@64.7.153.2> X-Sender: mdtpop@64.7.153.2 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.3.0 Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 23:39:32 -0400 To: Sam Leffler From: Mike Tancsa In-Reply-To: <089AEBC9-9731-11D8-BD30-000A95AD0668@errno.com> References: <44658B20-9610-11D8-AAEB-000A95AD0668@errno.com> <6.0.3.0.0.20040424142123.07bf3db0@64.7.153.2> <089AEBC9-9731-11D8-BD30-000A95AD0668@errno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at (avscan2) sentex.ca cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FAST_IPSEC bug fix X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 03:38:01 -0000 At 11:23 PM 25/04/2004, Sam Leffler wrote: > But there is no one to maintain and merge bugfixes into FAST_IPSEC >>from KAME The KAME stack might be slower, but there is active >>(relative to FAST_IPSEC) development. > >You said that because of a bug w/ the hifn card that you cannot/will not >use FAST IPsec. I said that's not a reason to not use it, that even w/o >hardware acceleration it's still faster than KAME. Sorry, I meant to add that the old_sa issue killed it for us in conjunction with the HiFn bug and the limitation of the newer Soekris cards to only 100 sites, we had to move back to KAME. We still have a number of remote Soekris boxes deployed using FAST_IPSEC with our patches deployed and they work well and will continue to use them as is. >Unfortunately the policy is that I cannot MFC something w/o it first going >in -current. I'll try to test the change under -current this week but if >someone else could do it then a commit would happen sooner. I *completely* understand and I really dont mean to seem to be complaining or anything because I am certainly not. I was going to try and put together a -current box later this week to try and test it so that I can at least report back that it works. ---Mike From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 26 06:34:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2615B16A4CE for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 06:34:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.bsd.net (mail.bsd.net [195.30.248.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0295343D5A for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 06:34:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from list-freebsd@lists.42x.org) Received: (qmail 21880 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2004 13:33:59 -0000 X-BSD-Qmail-VirusScan: scanned by Sophos Anti-Virus v3.80 FILE NOT INFECTED: [1082986439.21876-0.daemon.bsd.net] X-BSD-Remote-Host-Info: free.bsd.net - 193.149.36.81 Received: from free.bsd.net (193.149.36.81) by mail.bsd.net with QMQP; 26 Apr 2004 13:33:59 -0000 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 15:33:59 +0200 From: Martin Hasenbein To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040426133359.GA39298@bsd.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i-nntp3 Subject: Shuttle SB51G and Wireless LAN Module PN11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 13:34:03 -0000 Hi, my current workstation is the above mentioned Shuttle SB51G, which is running very good at all. Now I wanted to setup a wireless LAN and thought about adding the wireless LAN module PN11 to my shuttle. This module is build with a PRISM 3 chipset, which should work under FreeBSD. But the module is connected via USB to the shuttle. Does anybody know, if this works, or can give me tips on how to make it work?! Thank you very much in advance!! Ciao, -Martin. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 26 07:04:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4230D16A4CE for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 07:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exchange-1.cadmus.com (exchange-1.cadmus.com [204.253.55.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD4C143D67 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 07:04:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from AndrewJ@cadmus.com) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6375.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 10:04:50 -0400 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: looking for a FreeBSD hardware solution for a web server farm Thread-Index: AZ3F2L08fEeK0gAAEAC8SUKlqlUUwg== From: "Andrew, Juan" To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: looking for a FreeBSD hardware solution for a web server farm X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 14:04:51 -0000 Hi I am looking for a FreeBSD 4.6 hardware solutions for a web server farm. = My servers spec are as follow: 1) FreeBSD 4.6 2) Xeon 2.8 GHz 3) 2048 MB RAM 4) 36GB SCSI 5) 2 GB Network Does anyone know about any hardware solution (SUN or HP or anyother ) = that it works under these specs thanks for all your help Juan R Andrew Cadmus Specialty Publications Sr. Digital Integration Specialist 804-261-3032 direct Cadmus MediaWorks Division From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 26 07:10:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A80916A4CE for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 07:10:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.freebsdsystems.com (mx1.FreeBSDsystems.COM [69.90.68.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A869C43D5A for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 07:10:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lnb@FreeBSDsystems.COM) Received: (qmail 66480 invoked by uid 3011); 26 Apr 2004 14:09:57 -0000 Received: from lnb@FreeBSDsystems.COM by mx1.freebsdsystems.com by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.21 (clamscan: 0.54. f-prot: 3.12/. Clear:RC:1(216.235.9.82):. Processed in 0.02733 secs); 26 Apr 2004 14:09:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.5?) (lnb@216.235.9.82) by mx1.freebsdsystems.com with SMTP; 26 Apr 2004 14:09:57 -0000 From: Lanny Baron To: "Andrew, Juan" In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Organization: FreeBSD Systems, Inc. Message-Id: <1082988637.9995.4.camel@panda> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 10:10:37 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: looking for a FreeBSD hardware solution for a web server farm X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 14:10:45 -0000 Hi Andrew, We build customized Servers. Take a look at http://www.FreeBSDsystems.com Regards, Lanny On Mon, 2004-04-26 at 10:04, Andrew, Juan wrote: > Hi > > I am looking for a FreeBSD 4.6 hardware solutions for a web server farm. My servers spec are as follow: > > 1) FreeBSD 4.6 > 2) Xeon 2.8 GHz > 3) 2048 MB RAM > 4) 36GB SCSI > 5) 2 GB Network > > Does anyone know about any hardware solution (SUN or HP or anyother ) that it works under these specs > > thanks for all your help > > > Juan R Andrew > Cadmus Specialty Publications > Sr. Digital Integration Specialist > 804-261-3032 direct > Cadmus MediaWorks Division > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= Lanny Baron Proud to be 100% FreeBSD http://www.FreeBSDsystems.COM =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 26 07:32:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6881C16A4CE for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 07:32:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailbox.wingercom.dk (mailbox.wingercom.dk [81.19.240.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CA6543D2F for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 07:32:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from per@xterm.dk) Received: from mailbox.wingercom.dk (localhost.wingercom.dk [127.0.0.1]) by mailbox.wingercom.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id B2D8D931FC for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 16:36:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 62.242.151.142 (SquirrelMail authenticated user per) by mailbox.wingercom.dk with HTTP; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 16:36:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <34222.62.242.151.142.1082990207.squirrel@mailbox.wingercom.dk> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 16:36:47 +0200 (CEST) From: "Per Engelbrecht" To: X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.5) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [Fwd: Re: looking for a FreeBSD hardware solution for a web server farm] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 14:32:06 -0000 Hi Juan I'm not sure what you mean by '2 GB Network'. If you're looking for some exotic high-powered nic, then look at; http://www.myri.com/ or http://www.astutenetworks.com/content/product/superhba.htm Are you sure you mean FreeBSD 4.6 ? If yes, then why - if I may be so bold to ask. RELENG_4_6_RELEASE is'nt even updated anymore, if I recall it right. If you're going to by new hardware from one of the big manufactures, then why choose SUN hardware for a BSD installation ? (unless you have an urge to $pend money) About the rest of your spec., you'll have to visit a few site yourself e.g. www.ibm.com, www.hp.com et al. There's nothing exotic about your spec. and all the manufactures can meet you needs. I have not come across a single IBM/COMPAQ/HP server-box that did'nt run FreeBSD out-of-the-box. Allright, allright, allright. Yes I've had two problems! One with a Compaq WOL card and second, with an IBM RAID-controller. Both looong ago. respectfully /per per@xterm.dk > Hi > > I am looking for a FreeBSD 4.6 hardware solutions for a web server > farm. My servers spec are as follow: > > 1) FreeBSD 4.6 > 2) Xeon 2.8 GHz > 3) 2048 MB RAM > 4) 36GB SCSI > 5) 2 GB Network > > Does anyone know about any hardware solution (SUN or HP or anyother > ) that it works under these specs > > thanks for all your help > > > Juan R Andrew > Cadmus Specialty Publications > Sr. Digital Integration Specialist > 804-261-3032 direct > Cadmus MediaWorks Division > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 26 08:21:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A45E16A4CE for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 08:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gaff.hhhr.ision.net (gaff.hhhr.ision.net [195.180.9.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB1343D4C for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 08:21:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ohoyer@ohoyer.de) Received: from gaff.hhhr.ision.net (ohoyer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gaff.hhhr.ision.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3QFLbDQ055743; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 17:21:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ohoyer@ohoyer.de) Received: from localhost (ohoyer@localhost)i3QFLZQ4055740; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 17:21:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ohoyer@ohoyer.de) X-Authentication-Warning: gaff.hhhr.ision.net: ohoyer owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 17:21:35 +0200 (CEST) From: Olaf Hoyer Sender: ohoyer@gaff.hhhr.ision.net To: "Andrew, Juan" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040426171939.U55433@gaff.hhhr.ision.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: looking for a FreeBSD hardware solution for a web server farm X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 15:21:37 -0000 On Mon, 26 Apr 2004, Andrew, Juan wrote: > Hi > > I am looking for a FreeBSD 4.6 hardware solutions for a web server farm. My servers spec are as follow: > > 1) FreeBSD 4.6 > 2) Xeon 2.8 GHz > 3) 2048 MB RAM > 4) 36GB SCSI > 5) 2 GB Network > > Does anyone know about any hardware solution (SUN or HP or anyother ) that it works under these specs Well, Sun V60x or 65x will do, they are relabelled Intel OEM boxes, or HP 380 G3, nice thing, also quite sturdy. Only disadvantage is, that you don't get snmp agents for that box, but the ilo also reports most of the hardware issues via web interface. I'd also recommend going to 4.9 or 4.10 when its available, some driver have undergone some updating... Just my 0.02 Euro... Olaf -- Olaf Hoyer ohoyer@gaff.hhhr.ision.net Fuerchterliche Erlebniss geben zu raten, ob der, welcher sie erlebt, nicht etwas Fuerchterliches ist. (Nietzsche, Jenseits von Gut und Boese) From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 26 08:48:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5195216A4CE for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 08:48:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ran.psg.com (ip166.usw253.dsl-acs2.sea.iinet.com [209.20.253.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3D843D3F for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 08:48:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=ran.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1BI8Lf-000CSa-LJ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 08:48:47 -0700 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16525.12127.51047.896076@ran.psg.com> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 08:48:47 -0700 To: Lanny Baron References: <1082988637.9995.4.camel@panda> cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org cc: "Andrew, Juan" Subject: Re: looking for a FreeBSD hardware solution for a web server farm X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 15:48:54 -0000 > We build customized Servers. as do a lot of other good folk, such as ASA Computers . but, as the others do not spam the mailing list, we buy from them and blacklist you. randy From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 26 09:22:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2230B16A613 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 09:22:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailbox.wingercom.dk (mailbox.wingercom.dk [81.19.240.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 296F943D1D for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 09:22:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from per@xterm.dk) Received: from mailbox.wingercom.dk (localhost.wingercom.dk [127.0.0.1]) by mailbox.wingercom.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id D60A2931B3; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 18:26:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 62.242.151.142 (SquirrelMail authenticated user per) by mailbox.wingercom.dk with HTTP; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 18:26:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <33986.62.242.151.142.1082996769.squirrel@mailbox.wingercom.dk> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 18:26:09 +0200 (CEST) From: "Per Engelbrecht" To: In-Reply-To: <1082993433.9995.27.camel@panda> References: <1082993433.9995.27.camel@panda> X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.5) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: looking for a FreeBSD hardware solution for a web X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 16:22:22 -0000 Hi Lanny Since you're addressing me directly, it's only fair that I give you the answer - and Randy quite frankly, that black-list-comment was'nt called for. When I wrote to Olaf I did'nt have your company in mind, period! Yes, I've seen your site before and yes I support the BSD community both as a privat per$on, and through my job as sys.adm. at a hosting company. I even have the privilege of being board-member at the bsd-dk.dk (europe>scandinavia>denmark) Of course I'll remember you when I answer mails in the future. My mistake. By the way, do you have any local retailers in .dk or just nearby e.g. .se, .de ?? When I need a box (and I use just as many OpenBSD installations as I do FreeBSD) I expect to have it within days! Can you do that ? I need to know if I'm going to do any advocacy for you. respectfully /per per@xterm.dk > I am just wondering why you would tell someone to go to the > companies you mention below when it is our company, FreeBSD > Systems, that supports FreeBSD as in breaking the 4gb memory and > other fixes we have paid FreeBSD core team members for and then > gave that code back to the > FreeBSD community. > > It is stuff like what is seen below that makes us think 'why > support the FreeBSD community when the community does not wish to > support us'. > > Just my 3 cents > > Lanny > > > On Mon, 2004-04-26 at 10:36, Per Engelbrecht wrote: >> Hi Juan >> I'm not sure what you mean by '2 GB Network'. If you're looking >> for some exotic high-powered nic, then look at; >> http://www.myri.com/ >> or >> http://www.astutenetworks.com/content/product/superhba.htm >> >> Are you sure you mean FreeBSD 4.6 ? >> If yes, then why - if I may be so bold to ask. RELENG_4_6_RELEASE >> is'nt even updated anymore, if I recall it right. >> >> If you're going to by new hardware from one of the big >> manufactures, then why choose SUN hardware for a BSD installation >> ? (unless you have an urge to $pend money) >> About the rest of your spec., you'll have to visit a few site >> yourself e.g. www.ibm.com, www.hp.com et al. >> There's nothing exotic about your spec. and all the manufactures >> can meet you needs. >> I have not come across a single IBM/COMPAQ/HP server-box that >> did'nt run FreeBSD out-of-the-box. >> Allright, allright, allright. Yes I've had two problems! One with >> a Compaq WOL card and second, with an IBM RAID-controller. Both >> looong ago. >> >> >> >> respectfully >> /per >> per@xterm.dk >> >> >> >> >> > Hi >> > >> > I am looking for a FreeBSD 4.6 hardware solutions for a web >> > server farm. My servers spec are as follow: >> > >> > 1) FreeBSD 4.6 >> > 2) Xeon 2.8 GHz >> > 3) 2048 MB RAM >> > 4) 36GB SCSI >> > 5) 2 GB Network >> > >> > Does anyone know about any hardware solution (SUN or HP or >> > anyother ) that it works under these specs >> > >> > thanks for all your help >> > >> > >> > Juan R Andrew >> > Cadmus Specialty Publications >> > Sr. Digital Integration Specialist >> > 804-261-3032 direct >> > Cadmus MediaWorks Division >> > _______________________________________________ >> > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> > "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- > =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= > Lanny Baron > Proud to be 100% FreeBSD > http://www.FreeBSDsystems.COM > =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 26 09:23:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2848C16A613 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 09:23:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [66.11.174.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E905A43D3F for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 09:23:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.unixathome.org [192.168.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4F723D32; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 12:23:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Langille" To: Randy Bush Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 12:23:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <408CFF39.14076.2E7BE6C0@localhost> Priority: normal References: <16525.12127.51047.896076@ran.psg.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body cc: "Andrew, Juan" cc: Lanny Baron cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: looking for a FreeBSD hardware solution for a web server farm X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 16:23:23 -0000 Randy wrote: > > Lanny wrote > > > > We build customized Servers. > as do a lot of other good folk, such as ASA Computers > . but, as the others do not > spam the mailing list, we buy from them and blacklist > you. Lanny's post was not spam by any stretch of the imagination. -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ BSDCan - http://www.bsdcan.org/ From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 26 17:58:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D36A16A4CE for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 17:58:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ack.Berkeley.EDU (ack.berkeley.edu [128.32.206.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C9AD43D31 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 17:58:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mhunter@ack.Berkeley.EDU) Received: (from mhunter@localhost) by ack.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.11.3) id i3R0wl813768 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 17:58:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 17:58:47 -0700 From: Mike Hunter To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040427005847.GA13666@ack.Berkeley.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Core dump with tip (ucom0 -> external modem) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 00:58:48 -0000 Hey everybody, (I posted this to hackers, but I thought maybe this would be a good place for it too...there's a PS at the bottom.) I am trying to set up a FBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE machine to be able to dial a number via tip as described here: http://docs.freebsd.org/doc/5.1-RELEASE/usr/share/doc/faq/serial.html (That page is a bit out of date, at least in that it says it applies to FBSD 2, 3, and 4.) My HW setup is an old pentium box with a USB to Serial cable attaching to a USR external 56k Modem. I added this to my /etc/remote tip115200|Dial any phone number at 115200 bps:\ :dv=/dev/ucom0:br#115200:at=hayes:pa=none:du: tip57600|Dial any phone number at 57600 bps:\ :dv=/dev/ucom0:br#57600:at=hayes:pa=none:du: cu115200|Use cu to dial any number at 115200bps:\ :dv=/dev/ucom0:br#57600:at=hayes:pa=none:du: tip9600|Dial any phone number at 9600 bps:\ :dv=/dev/ucom0:br#9600:at=hayes:pa=none:du: But the suggested command gives me core: tip -115200 23645 Segmentation fault (core dumped) Same result with -57600, -9600 and with cu syntax I have an entry for the usb serial device: usb1:dv=/dev/ucom0:br#9600:pa=none: And if I say tip usb1 I can issue dialer commands manually and it works. The ultimate goal here is having somebody be able to run a shell-script named "dial-funkybox" and have it dial and connect them. Sorry if I left out something important. Any thoughts? Thanks, Mike PS I tried grabbing minicom as a tip replacement to work around the problem. The splendid problem I get with minicom is that it dials, and I can hear the modems train, but the auto-dialer window never goes away...*sigh* From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 26 19:42:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 310BE16A4CE for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 19:42:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay1-dav57.bay1.hotmail.com [65.54.244.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B8BC43D31 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 19:42:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dhavalca@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 19:42:55 -0700 Received: from 66.185.84.71 by bay1-dav57.adinternal.hotmail.com with DAV; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 02:42:55 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [66.185.84.71] X-Originating-Email: [dhavalca@hotmail.com] X-Sender: dhavalca@hotmail.com From: "dhaval shah" To: Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 22:42:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Apr 2004 02:42:55.0942 (UTC) FILETIME=[58311E60:01C42C01] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: Driver for Intel 82801AA (ICH) SMBus controller (fwd) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 02:42:56 -0000 hi i m dhaval shah and my email address is dhavalca@hotmail.com . I dont = have a driver for sound card and when tried to go add hardwere wizard = they promt me to add hardware for SM Bus Controller. My sound card is of = lagacy company. I m not sure that this SM bus controller has to do = anything with my sound card driver. can u help me on this one. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 27 08:33:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0183116A4CE for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 08:33:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (u46n208.hfx.eastlink.ca [24.222.46.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A285243D1D for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 08:33:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AF95035CD7; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:33:57 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABF2535977 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:33:57 -0300 (ADT) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:33:57 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040427123236.P60328@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: AMD Server comparable to Intel/Xeon ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 15:33:59 -0000 I'm looking at picking up the following: Intel Technology Server Chassis Intel SC1300 1U Rack MainBoard: Intel SE7501WV2SCSI Ram memory: 4 x 1 GB Processor: 2 x Xeon 3.06 Ghz Discos Duros: 3x Seagate ST336607KLC Intel: SRCZR <- Zero Channel RAID, does that exist for the AMD platforms? CD-ROM: 52x Floppy: 3.5" Monitor, Mouse & Keyboard: Not Included Now, I've been hearing alot of how AMD tends to perform better, but I have zero experience with AMD ... I'm curious as to what those with experience with AMD would be considered: 1. equivalent in power to the Xeon 3.06Ghz 2. a rackmount/motherboard they would recommend for a server Thanks ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 27 09:11:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D63DB16A4CE for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:11:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2.tsgincorporated.com (mail.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B86A43D5A for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:11:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from micheal@tsgincorporated.com) Received: from micheal (micheal.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.77]) i3RGBKpl093744; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 11:11:24 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from micheal@tsgincorporated.com) Message-ID: <04c401c42c72$79f91f40$4df24243@tsgincorporated.com> From: "Micheal Patterson" To: "Marc G. Fournier" , References: <20040427123236.P60328@ganymede.hub.org> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 11:12:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: Re: AMD Server comparable to Intel/Xeon ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:11:29 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 10:33 AM Subject: AMD Server comparable to Intel/Xeon ... ? > > I'm looking at picking up the following: > > Intel Technology Server > Chassis Intel SC1300 1U Rack > MainBoard: Intel SE7501WV2SCSI > Ram memory: 4 x 1 GB > Processor: 2 x Xeon 3.06 Ghz > Discos Duros: 3x Seagate ST336607KLC > Intel: SRCZR <- Zero Channel RAID, does that exist for the AMD platforms? > CD-ROM: 52x > Floppy: 3.5" > Monitor, Mouse & Keyboard: Not Included > > > Now, I've been hearing alot of how AMD tends to perform better, but I have > zero experience with AMD ... I'm curious as to what those with experience > with AMD would be considered: > > 1. equivalent in power to the Xeon 3.06Ghz > 2. a rackmount/motherboard they would recommend for a server > > Thanks ... > ---- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) > Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 I can't speak of anything over 2400+ since I'm running dual 2400XP's in Tyan Tiger mainboards. They seem to do real well for us. They're in my mx'rs, dns, nfs, and web servers. -- Micheal Patterson TSG Network Administration 405-917-0600 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 27 09:23:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3319F16A4CE for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:23:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from salvador.pacific.net.sg (salvador.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 06EA743D54 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:23:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 28898 invoked from network); 27 Apr 2004 16:23:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maxwell6.pacific.net.sg) (203.120.90.212) by salvador with SMTP; 27 Apr 2004 16:23:30 -0000 Received: from pacific.net.sg ([210.24.202.28]) by maxwell6.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id <20040427162330.MIMU1186.maxwell6.pacific.net.sg@pacific.net.sg>; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 00:23:30 +0800 Message-ID: <408E87F2.3010409@pacific.net.sg> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 00:18:58 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: oceanare pte ltd User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040409 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Marc G. Fournier" References: <20040427123236.P60328@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <20040427123236.P60328@ganymede.hub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD Server comparable to Intel/Xeon ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:23:33 -0000 Hi, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > I'm looking at picking up the following: > > Intel Technology Server > Chassis Intel SC1300 1U Rack > MainBoard: Intel SE7501WV2SCSI > Ram memory: 4 x 1 GB > Processor: 2 x Xeon 3.06 Ghz > Discos Duros: 3x Seagate ST336607KLC > Intel: SRCZR <- Zero Channel RAID, does that exist for the AMD platforms? > CD-ROM: 52x > Floppy: 3.5" > Monitor, Mouse & Keyboard: Not Included > > > Now, I've been hearing alot of how AMD tends to perform better, but I have > zero experience with AMD ... I'm curious as to what those with experience > with AMD would be considered: > > 1. equivalent in power to the Xeon 3.06Ghz It depends of how much you want to spend. We use Tyan Thunder K7 boards with Athlon MP CPUs. There are different versions available with LAN und SCSI on board. The Thunder K8 family is for the Opteron CPU. Some of the machines run FreeBSD 4.x and 5.2. > 2. a rackmount/motherboard they would recommend for a server The Thunder family is designed for this. Erich From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 27 09:27:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 531F216A4CE for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2.tsgincorporated.com (ns2.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB87D43D2F for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:27:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from micheal@tsgincorporated.com) Received: from micheal (micheal.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.77]) i3RGRlsV066670; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 11:27:47 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from micheal@tsgincorporated.com) Message-ID: <04d801c42c74$c3df8250$4df24243@tsgincorporated.com> From: "Micheal Patterson" To: "Marc G. Fournier" , Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 11:29:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: Re: AMD Server comparable to Intel/Xeon ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:27:50 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Micheal Patterson" To: "Marc G. Fournier" ; Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 11:12 AM Subject: Re: AMD Server comparable to Intel/Xeon ... ? > I can't speak of anything over 2400+ since I'm running dual 2400XP's in Tyan > Tiger mainboards. They seem to do real well for us. They're in my mx'rs, > dns, nfs, and web servers. > Correction, 2400+MP's. I hate when I do that. -- Micheal Patterson TSG Network Administration 405-917-0600 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 27 11:29:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0990C16A4CE for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 11:29:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ack.Berkeley.EDU (ack.berkeley.edu [128.32.206.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D36D643D60 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 11:29:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mhunter@ack.Berkeley.EDU) Received: (from mhunter@localhost) by ack.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.3/8.11.3) id i3RITOS22061 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 11:29:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 11:29:24 -0700 From: Mike Hunter To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040427182924.GB21687@ack.Berkeley.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040427005847.GA13666@ack.Berkeley.EDU> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: plot.thickness++ (Re: Core dump with tip (ucom0 -> external modem)) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 18:29:25 -0000 I got an interesting clue by trying ECU. Check this out: ECU is a dialer type program. I told it to use /dev/ucom0 to dial my desk phone number, and it showed itself trying to issue a bunch of commands to the modem, but each time they came back and said "missed expected carriage return". It eventually gave up, but my phone then started ringing! Dialing on /dev/ucom0 at 9600 baud (10:24:25) Trying ecu dialer /usr/local/lib/ecu/ucom0.mi: No such file or directory modem init string not found (using default 'ATE1Q0V1') modem dial string not found (using default 'ATDT') ATE1Q0V1 missed expected carriage return got nothing ATE1Q0V1 missed expected carriage return got nothing ATE1Q0V1 missed expected carriage return got nothing ATE1Q0V1 missed expected carriage return got nothing /usr/local/lib/ecu/ucom0.mi: No such file or directory modem init string not found (using default 'ATE1Q0V1') modem dial string not found (using default 'ATDT') ATE1Q0V1 missed expected carriage return got nothing ATE1Q0V1 missed expected carriage return got nothing ATE1Q0V1 missed expected carriage return got nothing ATE1Q0V1 missed expected carriage return got nothing ATDT23645 missed expected carriage return Cannot talk to modem When it was over, I did a tip on the same device and it spewed a bunch of garbage at me: OK AT OK ATQ0V1E1 OK ATE1Q0V1 OK AT OK ATQ0V1E1 OK ATE1Q0V1 OK AT OK ATQ0V1E1 OK ATE1Q0V1 OK ATE1Q0V1 OK AT OK ATQ0V1E1 OK ATE1Q0V1 OK AT OK ATQ0V1E1 OK ATE1Q0V1 OK AT OK ATQ0V1E1 OK ATE1Q0 So all the commands were going through, but somehow being buffered...? Any knobs I can play with to help with this situation? Thanks, Mike From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 28 13:51:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB55916A4CF for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 13:51:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bremen.shuttle.de (bremen.shuttle.de [194.95.249.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1784043D2D for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 13:51:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from schweikh@schweikhardt.net) Received: by bremen.shuttle.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 7DCD83BDE6; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 22:51:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hal9000.schweikhardt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i3SKpOqd008304 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 22:51:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schweikh@hal9000.schweikhardt.net) Received: (from schweikh@localhost)i3SKpOWV008303 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 22:51:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schweikh) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 22:51:24 +0200 From: Jens Schweikhardt To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040428205124.GA8123@schweikhardt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Need a mainboard recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 20:51:34 -0000 hello, world\n I've been trying to find my Perfect Board(TM), but had no luck browsing various vendor's product pages. It seems that always one of my non-negotiable features is missing: 1. Single CPU 2. FSB800 3. At least 1 PCI-X (64bit) slot 4. AGP slot (on board ATI RAGE with 8M and no DVI like on Tyan is right out) In case you wonder: I want to build a fast desktop machine, whithout the 133MB/s bottleneck that a 32bit PCI slot has (for U320 SCSI with 4 fast disks). Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 28 14:08:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85CCC16A4CE for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 14:08:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailbox.wingercom.dk (mailbox.wingercom.dk [81.19.240.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC24343D53 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 14:08:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from per@xterm.dk) Received: from mailbox.wingercom.dk (localhost.wingercom.dk [127.0.0.1]) by mailbox.wingercom.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 4F6F493226; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 23:12:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 62.242.151.142 (SquirrelMail authenticated user per) by mailbox.wingercom.dk with HTTP; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 23:12:44 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <36877.62.242.151.142.1083186764.squirrel@mailbox.wingercom.dk> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 23:12:44 +0200 (CEST) From: "Per Engelbrecht" To: In-Reply-To: <20040428205124.GA8123@schweikhardt.net> References: <20040428205124.GA8123@schweikhardt.net> X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.5) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need a mainboard recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 21:08:56 -0000 Hi Jens Supermicro boards are no-nonsens, high quality, rocksteady and (compared to Intel) reasonable in price. The comparison with Intel is based on the fact, that supermicro produce boards with Intel 7501, 7505 and the rest of Intel's chipset. They have a big matrix for comparison on their site. Even Intel use supermicro as an reference in benchmark/performance for their chipset. I/we use these boards with FreeBSD, OpenBSD and NetBSD as servers in a hosting company. I doubt that their workstation-boards should be anything but just as good. respectfully /per per@xterm.dk > hello, world\n > > I've been trying to find my Perfect Board(TM), but had no luck > browsing various vendor's product pages. It seems that always one > of my non-negotiable features is missing: > > 1. Single CPU > 2. FSB800 > 3. At least 1 PCI-X (64bit) slot > 4. AGP slot (on board ATI RAGE with 8M and no DVI like on Tyan > is right out) > > In case you wonder: I want to build a fast desktop machine, > whithout the 133MB/s bottleneck that a 32bit PCI slot has (for U320 > SCSI with 4 fast disks). > > Regards, > > Jens > -- > Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ > SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 28 14:18:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 529B416A4CE for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 14:18:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bremen.shuttle.de (bremen.shuttle.de [194.95.249.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F393043D3F for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 14:18:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from schweikh@schweikhardt.net) Received: by bremen.shuttle.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id E54803BCD4; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 23:18:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hal9000.schweikhardt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i3SLHvcR008827; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 23:17:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schweikh@hal9000.schweikhardt.net) Received: (from schweikh@localhost)i3SLHvXp008826; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 23:17:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schweikh) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 23:17:57 +0200 From: Jens Schweikhardt To: Per Engelbrecht Message-ID: <20040428211757.GA8806@schweikhardt.net> References: <20040428205124.GA8123@schweikhardt.net> <36877.62.242.151.142.1083186764.squirrel@mailbox.wingercom.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <36877.62.242.151.142.1083186764.squirrel@mailbox.wingercom.dk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need a mainboard recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 21:18:03 -0000 On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 11:12:44PM +0200, Per Engelbrecht wrote: # Hi Jens # Supermicro boards are no-nonsens, high quality, rocksteady and # (compared to Intel) reasonable in price. ... # > 1. Single CPU # > 2. FSB800 # > 3. At least 1 PCI-X (64bit) slot # > 4. AGP slot (on board ATI RAGE with 8M and no DVI like on Tyan # > is right out) It appears the supermicro P4SCT fits my bill. Thanks for the pointer! Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 28 14:24:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF1316A4CE for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 14:24:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cableone.net (scanmail2.cableone.net [24.116.0.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 742A943D31 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 14:24:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kitbsdlist2@HotPOP.com) Received: from vixen42. (unverified [24.119.123.61]) by smail2.cableone.net (SurgeMail 1.5d2) with ESMTP id 5354256 for multiple; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 14:13:36 -0700 Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 14:22:12 -0500 From: Vulpes Velox To: Jens Schweikhardt Message-Id: <20040428142212.3cef5f0c@vixen42.> In-Reply-To: <20040428205124.GA8123@schweikhardt.net> References: <20040428205124.GA8123@schweikhardt.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need a mainboard recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 21:24:48 -0000 On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 22:51:24 +0200 Jens Schweikhardt wrote: > hello, world\n > > I've been trying to find my Perfect Board(TM), but had no luck > browsing various vendor's product pages. It seems that always one of > my non-negotiable features is missing: > > 1. Single CPU > 2. FSB800 > 3. At least 1 PCI-X (64bit) slot > 4. AGP slot (on board ATI RAGE with 8M and no DVI like on Tyan is > right out) > > In case you wonder: I want to build a fast desktop machine, whithout > the 133MB/s bottleneck that a 32bit PCI slot has (for U320 SCSI with > 4 fast disks). I would suggest checking into a board by Gigabyte, I've had good luck with them. I've found them to be nicely priced and stable. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 28 23:48:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F94A16A4CE for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 23:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dd2626.kasserver.com (dd2626.kasserver.com [81.209.184.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB09843D31 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 23:48:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from outi@bytephobia.de) Received: from bytephobia.de (pD958E07F.dip.t-dialin.net [217.88.224.127]) by dd2626.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12EC45795F; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 08:47:58 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4090A4FF.9010505@bytephobia.de> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 08:47:27 +0200 From: Patrick Hurrelmann User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (X11/20040409) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jens Schweikhardt References: <20040428205124.GA8123@schweikhardt.net> In-Reply-To: <20040428205124.GA8123@schweikhardt.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need a mainboard recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 06:48:32 -0000 Jens Schweikhardt wrote: > hello, world\n > > I've been trying to find my Perfect Board(TM), but had no luck browsing various > vendor's product pages. It seems that always one of my non-negotiable features > is missing: > > 1. Single CPU > 2. FSB800 > 3. At least 1 PCI-X (64bit) slot > 4. AGP slot (on board ATI RAGE with 8M and no DVI like on Tyan is right out) > > In case you wonder: I want to build a fast desktop machine, whithout the > 133MB/s bottleneck that a 32bit PCI slot has (for U320 SCSI with 4 fast > disks). > > Regards, > > Jens have a look at asus' serverboards: PSCH-L PSCH-SR NRL-LS533 NRL-LS i don't know exactly which of them has onboard video or a 800mhz fsb, but all are server/workstation boards with highperfoamnce and 64bit or pci-x slots. Patrick From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 29 06:59:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD24616A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 06:59:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (u46n208.hfx.eastlink.ca [24.222.46.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FE0743D39 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 06:59:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id ADDD23A676; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:59:40 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A027E39413 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:59:40 -0300 (ADT) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:59:40 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040429105811.I60328@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: SCSI drive recommendation in 1U box ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:59:40 -0000 I'm looking to put together a series of 1U boxes that will act as web/mail servers ... its been mentioned to me that the Cheetahs run a wee bit hot for 1U boxes ... can anyone recommend experiences with either those drives, or others, in a 1U environment that they'd recommend? Thanks ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 29 07:10:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA97516A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 07:10:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from santiago.pacific.net.sg (santiago.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BADC143D5A for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 07:09:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 21441 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2004 14:09:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maxwell2.pacific.net.sg) (203.120.90.192) by santiago with SMTP; 29 Apr 2004 14:09:53 -0000 Received: from pacific.net.sg ([210.24.202.28]) by maxwell2.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id <20040429140952.BWON1277.maxwell2.pacific.net.sg@pacific.net.sg>; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 22:09:52 +0800 Message-ID: <40910B82.4070907@pacific.net.sg> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 22:04:50 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: oceanare pte ltd User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040409 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Marc G. Fournier" References: <20040429105811.I60328@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <20040429105811.I60328@ganymede.hub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCSI drive recommendation in 1U box ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:10:00 -0000 Hi, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > I'm looking to put together a series of 1U boxes that will act as web/mail > servers ... its been mentioned to me that the Cheetahs run a wee bit hot > for 1U boxes ... can anyone recommend experiences with either those > drives, or others, in a 1U environment that they'd recommend? > we have both Seagates and Fujitsus running. We did not have any failures with both types within the last two years. We have had some failures with IBM SCSI drives. Just make sure that the drives are within the airflow. I personally prefere the Fujitsu SCSI drives since the Eighties. Erich From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 29 09:07:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C170F16A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:07:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cobra.acceleratedweb.net (cobra-gw.acceleratedweb.net [207.99.79.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 19FC643D1F for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:07:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: (qmail 5850 invoked by uid 110); 29 Apr 2004 16:07:16 -0000 Received: from ool-18baaf5c.dyn.optonline.net (HELO win2kpc1) (24.186.175.92) by cobra.acceleratedweb.net with SMTP; 29 Apr 2004 16:07:16 -0000 From: "Simon" To: "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" , "Marc G. Fournier" Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 12:08:19 -0400 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2661) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2195;4) In-Reply-To: <20040429105811.I60328@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20040429160718.19FC643D1F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: SCSI drive recommendation in 1U box ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:07:19 -0000 Hot? no they don't, the very old ones do, but not the 5-7 generation. Also make sure your 1U chassis are properly designed to have enough airflow as mentioned in previous reply by Erich. Finally, all drives fail with given enough time and abuse, so if you need uptime, use RAID. You can fit 2-4 drives in a single 1U chassis, so you can run RAID 1, 5, 1+0, 0+1, etc... By the way, Hitachi just came out with 300GB SCSI drives; 4 such drives in RAID 5 will give you ~900GB, nuts. -Simon On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:59:40 -0300 (ADT), Marc G. Fournier wrote: > >I'm looking to put together a series of 1U boxes that will act as web/mail >servers ... its been mentioned to me that the Cheetahs run a wee bit hot >for 1U boxes ... can anyone recommend experiences with either those >drives, or others, in a 1U environment that they'd recommend? > >Thanks ... > >---- >Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) >Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 29 09:36:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E854C16A4D0 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (u46n208.hfx.eastlink.ca [24.222.46.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABBFF43D58 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:36:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 070D8362FE; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:36:28 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED92635B65; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:36:27 -0300 (ADT) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:36:27 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Simon In-Reply-To: <20040429160720.25C7B9A7802@hub.org> Message-ID: <20040429133411.H60328@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20040429160720.25C7B9A7802@hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: SCSI drive recommendation in 1U box ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:36:29 -0000 On Thu, 29 Apr 2004, Simon wrote: > > Hot? no they don't, the very old ones do, but not the 5-7 generation. > Also make sure your 1U chassis are properly designed to have enough > airflow as mentioned in previous reply by Erich. Finally, all drives fail > with given enough time and abuse, so if you need uptime, use RAID. > You can fit 2-4 drives in a single 1U chassis, so you can run RAID 1, > 5, 1+0, 0+1, etc... By the way, Hitachi just came out with 300GB SCSI > drives; 4 such drives in RAID 5 will give you ~900GB, nuts. Any recommendations on chassis for the Tyan Thunder 7xPro? As for RAID, RAID5 is automatic on all our servers ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 29 20:27:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B10416A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 20:27:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cathednet.wa.edu.au (mail.cathednet.wa.edu.au [203.36.44.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC35A43D2D for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 20:27:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Hutton.Benjamin@cathednet.wa.edu.au) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:21:01 +0800 Message-ID: <495C82713D471144831724987B4326A36A2682@mail.cathednet.wa.edu.au> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Storcon on 5.2.1 thread-index: AcQuYwDJTYcM6eQ8T5ChP0OKA/FF/g== From: "Hutton, Benjamin" To: Subject: Storcon on 5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 03:27:14 -0000 I'm currently running 5.2.1 with an SRCZCR Intel RAID Controller. The iir drivers working fine, but I can't get storcon to work as it says = "No Controller Found." when I run it. Can this work on 5.x or do I have to roll back to the 4.x tree? Benjamin Hutton Systems Administrator Bunbury Catholic College From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 29 21:28:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55AE616A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 21:28:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web61301.mail.yahoo.com (web61301.mail.yahoo.com [216.155.196.144]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D2B6743D41 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 21:28:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from richard_bejtlich@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20040430042825.95824.qmail@web61301.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.50.168.243] by web61301.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 21:28:25 PDT Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 21:28:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Bejtlich To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Firewire and USB 2.0 combo cards X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 04:28:26 -0000 Hello, I'm looking for Firewire and USB 2.0 combo cards for my laptop and servers. Can anyone report success using either of these products with FreeBSD 5.2.1 or later? Adaptec DuoConnect for Notebooks (Cardbus) http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/product/proddetail.html?prodkey=AUA-1411 Adaptec DuoConnect (PCI) http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/product/proddetail.html?prodkey=AUA-3020 I'd like to hook up a Plextor 708UF (http://www.plextor.com/english/products/708UF.html) to the laptop and servers for backups, etc., and also an external FIrewire or USB 2.0 hard drive for extra storage. If not this equipment, any other recommendations? Thank you, Richard http://www.taosecurity.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 30 02:38:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2978116A4CE; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 02:38:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dd2626.kasserver.com (dd2626.kasserver.com [81.209.184.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C6F43D39; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 02:38:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from outi@bytephobia.de) Received: from bytephobia.de (pD95F0562.dip.t-dialin.net [217.95.5.98]) by dd2626.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98DD91FF54; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:37:37 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <40921E4B.3080609@bytephobia.de> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:37:15 +0200 From: Patrick Hurrelmann User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (X11/20040409) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Prism54 Chipsets Supported? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 09:38:04 -0000 Hi, I am currently using a Dell TrueMobile 1300 (Broadcom) on my Dell Latitude D600 Notebook. Thanks to Bill Pauls awesome work it is performs very well for daily und "normal" wireless lan usage. But i want to run some tools, that are only available fo wi-cards. Is Prism54-Chipset already supported? I read something that a driver for linux exists on www.prism54.org. will it make it to freebsd or is it highly unlikely? Some on the lists posted, that he has replaced his card with an ath-based one. Maybe ath is an alternative to wi, but i'd relly prefer wi (802.11g or a is a must have). thanks Patrick From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 30 03:09:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59E6216A4CE; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 03:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from coruscant.rfc1149.org (coruscant.rfc1149.org [217.160.130.147]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B661943D49; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 03:09:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from arne@rfc2549.org) Received: by coruscant.rfc1149.org (Postfix, from userid 110) id 8D5BF3FB3; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:09:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kamino.rfc1149.org (kamino.rfc1149.org [2001:8d8:81:11::2]) by coruscant.rfc1149.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F5813CBE; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:09:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: by kamino.rfc1149.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9616E35; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:09:50 +0200 (CEST) To: Patrick Hurrelmann In-Reply-To: <40921E4B.3080609@bytephobia.de> (Patrick Hurrelmann's message of "Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:37:15 +0200") References: <40921E4B.3080609@bytephobia.de> From: Arne Schwabe Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:09:50 +0200 Message-ID: <867jvxbwup.fsf@kamino.rfc1149.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on coruscant.rfc1149.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 X-Spam-Level: cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Prism54 Chipsets Supported? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 10:09:55 -0000 Patrick Hurrelmann writes: > Hi, > > I am currently using a Dell TrueMobile 1300 (Broadcom) on my Dell > Latitude D600 Notebook. Thanks to Bill Pauls awesome work it is > performs very well for daily und "normal" wireless lan usage. > > But i want to run some tools, that are only available fo wi-cards. > Is Prism54-Chipset already supported? I read something that a driver > for linux exists on www.prism54.org. will it make it to freebsd or is > it highly unlikely? > > Some on the lists posted, that he has replaced his card with an > ath-based one. Maybe ath is an alternative to wi, but i'd relly prefer > wi (802.11g or a is a must have). I think that the prism54 is not support. But Atheros Chips have a/b/g (They were the first a chipsets) Arne -- Ah, the beauty of OSS. Hundreds of volunteers worldwide volunteering their time inventing and implementing new exciting ways of old fashioned wheels. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 30 04:10:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37A9F16A4CE; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 04:10:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spmler3.mail.eds.com (spmler3.mail.eds.com [194.128.225.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E1D143D67; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 04:10:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thomas.sparrevohn@eds.com) Received: from spmlir3.mail.eds.com (spmlir3.mail.eds.com [205.191.69.43]) by spmler3.mail.eds.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i3UBA9uT010171; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:10:10 +0100 Received: from spmlir3.mail.eds.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i3UB9qgq016047; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:09:52 +0100 Received: from ukspm104.exemhub.exch.eds.com ([204.230.90.155]) i3UB9qId016032; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:09:52 +0100 Received: by ukspm104.exemhub.exch.eds.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:09:50 +0100 Message-ID: <2946E9F05C8DD511A7DC0002A5608CE401233E64@gbchm201.exgb01.exch.eds.com> From: "Sparrevohn, Thomas" To: "'Arne Schwabe'" , Patrick Hurrelmann Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:09:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Prism54 Chipsets Supported? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:10:17 -0000 It reminds me - It seems that the 80211 part of the driver does not support "authmode shared" mode? Are there any plans for in support of that? Or are that a good reason for the lack of it - e.g. legal etc? -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Arne Schwabe Sent: 30 April 2004 11:10 To: Patrick Hurrelmann Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; freebsd-current@freebsd.org; freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Prism54 Chipsets Supported? Patrick Hurrelmann writes: > Hi, > > I am currently using a Dell TrueMobile 1300 (Broadcom) on my Dell > Latitude D600 Notebook. Thanks to Bill Pauls awesome work it is > performs very well for daily und "normal" wireless lan usage. > > But i want to run some tools, that are only available fo wi-cards. Is > Prism54-Chipset already supported? I read something that a driver for > linux exists on www.prism54.org. will it make it to freebsd or is it > highly unlikely? > > Some on the lists posted, that he has replaced his card with an > ath-based one. Maybe ath is an alternative to wi, but i'd relly prefer > wi (802.11g or a is a must have). I think that the prism54 is not support. But Atheros Chips have a/b/g (They were the first a chipsets) Arne -- Ah, the beauty of OSS. Hundreds of volunteers worldwide volunteering their time inventing and implementing new exciting ways of old fashioned wheels. _______________________________________________ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 30 04:18:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F243516A4CE for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 04:18:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.interbgc.com (mail.interbgc.com [217.9.224.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 972BC43D5F for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 04:18:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nike_d@cytexbg.com) Received: (qmail 3645 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2004 11:18:00 -0000 Received: from nike_d@cytexbg.com by keeper.interbgc.com by uid 1002 with qmail-scanner-1.14 (uvscan: v4.1.60/v4335. spamassassin: 2.63. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:18:04 -0000 This is a MIME GnuPG-signed message. If you see this text, it means that your E-mail or Usenet software does not support MIME signed messages. --=_mimegpg-phobos.totalterror.net-670-1083323878-0022 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sparrevohn, Thomas writes: > It reminds me - It seems that the 80211 part of the driver does not support > "authmode shared" mode? Are there any plans for in support of that? Or are > that a good reason for the lack of it - e.g. legal etc? > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Arne Schwabe > Sent: 30 April 2004 11:10 > To: Patrick Hurrelmann > Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; freebsd-current@freebsd.org; > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Prism54 Chipsets Supported? > > > Patrick Hurrelmann writes: > >> Hi, >> >> I am currently using a Dell TrueMobile 1300 (Broadcom) on my Dell >> Latitude D600 Notebook. Thanks to Bill Pauls awesome work it is >> performs very well for daily und "normal" wireless lan usage. >> >> But i want to run some tools, that are only available fo wi-cards. Is >> Prism54-Chipset already supported? I read something that a driver for >> linux exists on www.prism54.org. will it make it to freebsd or is it >> highly unlikely? >> >> Some on the lists posted, that he has replaced his card with an >> ath-based one. Maybe ath is an alternative to wi, but i'd relly prefer >> wi (802.11g or a is a must have). > > I think that the prism54 is not support. But Atheros Chips have a/b/g (They > were the first a chipsets) > > Arne > -- > Ah, the beauty of OSS. Hundreds of volunteers worldwide volunteering their > time inventing and implementing new exciting ways of old fashioned wheels. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > As far as i remember, a while ago someone pointed out that in fact authmode shared is less secure than open mode. So this shouldn't be much of a problem :) --Niki Denev --=_mimegpg-phobos.totalterror.net-670-1083323878-0022 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBAkjXmHNAJ/fLbfrkRAtGUAKCCWkqXiF1FVdNRlxBXN5JOsFo45gCdGcA9 Blv12rVolqoyj7irARf9hZ8= =DN0Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=_mimegpg-phobos.totalterror.net-670-1083323878-0022-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 30 04:45:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADB7F16A50A; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 04:45:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spmler2.mail.eds.com (spmler2.mail.eds.com [194.128.225.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A05C43D78; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 04:45:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thomas.sparrevohn@eds.com) Received: from spmlir3.mail.eds.com (spmlir3.mail.eds.com [205.191.69.43]) i3UBj3IZ027564; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:45:04 +0100 Received: from spmlir3.mail.eds.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i3UBiH4i031751; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:44:17 +0100 Received: from ukspm103.exemhub.exch.eds.com ([204.230.90.153]) i3UBiHOX031725; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:44:17 +0100 Received: by ukspm103.exemhub.exch.eds.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:44:17 +0100 Message-ID: <2946E9F05C8DD511A7DC0002A5608CE401233E66@gbchm201.exgb01.exch.eds.com> From: "Sparrevohn, Thomas" To: "'Niki Denev'" , "Sparrevohn, Thomas" Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:44:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain cc: Patrick Hurrelmann cc: 'Arne Schwabe' cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Prism54 Chipsets Supported? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:45:14 -0000 It really does not depend on the reality of how secure a shared mode is ;-) but of what the local immutable policy is ;-) -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Niki Denev Sent: 30 April 2004 12:18 To: Sparrevohn, Thomas Cc: Patrick Hurrelmann; 'Arne Schwabe'; freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Prism54 Chipsets Supported? Sparrevohn, Thomas writes: > It reminds me - It seems that the 80211 part of the driver does not > support "authmode shared" mode? Are there any plans for in support of > that? Or are that a good reason for the lack of it - e.g. legal etc? > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Arne Schwabe > Sent: 30 April 2004 11:10 > To: Patrick Hurrelmann > Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; freebsd-current@freebsd.org; > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Prism54 Chipsets Supported? > > > Patrick Hurrelmann writes: > >> Hi, >> >> I am currently using a Dell TrueMobile 1300 (Broadcom) on my Dell >> Latitude D600 Notebook. Thanks to Bill Pauls awesome work it is >> performs very well for daily und "normal" wireless lan usage. >> >> But i want to run some tools, that are only available fo wi-cards. Is >> Prism54-Chipset already supported? I read something that a driver for >> linux exists on www.prism54.org. will it make it to freebsd or is it >> highly unlikely? >> >> Some on the lists posted, that he has replaced his card with an >> ath-based one. Maybe ath is an alternative to wi, but i'd relly prefer >> wi (802.11g or a is a must have). > > I think that the prism54 is not support. But Atheros Chips have a/b/g > (They were the first a chipsets) > > Arne > -- > Ah, the beauty of OSS. Hundreds of volunteers worldwide volunteering their > time inventing and implementing new exciting ways of old fashioned wheels. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > As far as i remember, a while ago someone pointed out that in fact authmode shared is less secure than open mode. So this shouldn't be much of a problem :) --Niki Denev