From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 18 07:10:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6178016A4CF for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 07:10:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fuf.mingrone.org (fuf.mingrone.org [204.251.2.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EC01543D48 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 07:10:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joey@mingrone.org) Received: (qmail 6809 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2004 07:10:27 -0000 Received: from fuf.mingrone.org (HELO localhost) (204.251.2.34) by fuf.mingrone.org with SMTP; 18 Jul 2004 07:10:27 -0000 From: Joey Mingrone To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 04:09:55 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-UID: 19 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200407180409.55686.joey@mingrone.org> Subject: NDISulator with Intel 2200 b/g on 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 (some success ...almost working) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 07:10:30 -0000 Hi all, Here are the steps I took: I built a new kernel with "options KSTACK_PAGES=8" to accommodate the large alloc the w22n51.sys driver makes on the kernel stack I added the following directories from CURRENT under my source tree: src/sys/compat/ndis sys/modules/ndis sys/modules/if_ndis src/sys/dev/if_ndis src/usr.sbin/ndiscvt In /sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c I had to comment out the following lines to get everything to build: #include kdb_enter("ntoskrnl_debugger(): breakpoint"); cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/ndiscvt make make install cd /sys/modules/ndis make make install I put w22n51.sys and w22n51.INF in /sys/modules/if_ndis. If anyone is looking for these file they can be found inside this zip: http://www.powernotebooks.com/Support/intel_2200_wlan.zip cd /sys/modules/if_ndis ndiscvt -i w22n51.INF -s w22n51.sys -o ndis_driver_data.h make I got an an error: "make: don't know how to make pccarddevs.h. Stop", so I removed pccarddevs.h from /sys/modules/if_ndis/Makefile an it built okay. make install kldload -v ndis -> Loaded ndis, id=3 kldload -v if_ndis -> worked sometimes, other times the command would just hang, but the system would still be usable when kldload if_ndis did work, the output would look like: ndis0: mem 0xff9ee000-0xff9eef ff irq 11 at device 2.0 on pci2 ndis0: NDIS API version: 5.1 ndis0: 11b rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps ndis0: 11g rates: 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps Loaded if_ndis, id=7 Then ifconfig -a would show: bge0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 options=1b inet6 fe80::20e:a6ff:fec4:a0b1%bge0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet 192.168.0.4 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 ether 00:0e:a6:c4:a0:b1 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active plip0: flags=8810 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 ndis0: flags=8802 mtu 1500 ether 00:0e:35:1f:df:57 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect status: no carrier ssid "" channel -1 authmode OPEN powersavemode OFF powersavesleep 100 wepmode OFF weptxkey 1 Next I did: wicontrol -i ndis0 -l output: 0 stations: ifconfig ndis0 inet 192.168.0.5 netmask 255.255.255.0 ssid 5270-4 Sometimes this would output: ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists Other times it would work. I think doing "ifconfig bge0 down" first helped. now the output from "ifconfig -a" looked like: bge0: flags=8802 mtu 1500 options=1b inet6 fe80::20e:a6ff:fec4:a0b1%bge0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet 192.168.0.4 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 ether 00:0e:a6:c4:a0:b1 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active plip0: flags=8810 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 ndis0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet6 fe80::20e:35ff:fe1f:df57%ndis0 prefixlen 64 duplicated scopeid 0x4 inet 192.168.0.5 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 ether 00:0e:35:1f:df:57 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (OFDM/54Mbps) status: associated ssid 5270-4 1:5270-4 channel 6 authmode OPEN powersavemode OFF powersavesleep 100 wepmode OFF weptxkey 1 wicontrol -i ndis0 -l: 1 station: ap[0]: netname (SSID): [ 5270-4 ] BSSID: [ 00:0f:66:36:cb:e8 ] Channel: [ 6 ] Quality/Signal/Noise [signal]: [ 115 / 115 / 0 ] [dBm]: [ 115 / -34 / -149 ] BSS Beacon Interval [msec]: [ 0 ] Capinfo: [ ] Now I unplugged bge0 and successfully pinged 192.168.0.x addresses on the local LAN using the ndis0. So that's what successfully worked. Here's are some of the problems: Even with a defaultrouter entry in rc.conf, nothing outside the local LAN could be reached. Trying to loading the two ndis kernel modules from /boot/loader.conf wouldn't allow the system to boot. I hope that all makes sense. Joey From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 18 10:02:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76E4016A4CF for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 10:02:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fuf.mingrone.org (fuf.mingrone.org [204.251.2.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E293243D1F for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 10:01:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joey@mingrone.org) Received: (qmail 37162 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2004 10:01:57 -0000 Received: from fuf.mingrone.org (HELO localhost) (204.251.2.34) by fuf.mingrone.org with SMTP; 18 Jul 2004 10:01:57 -0000 From: Joey Mingrone To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 07:01:55 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <200407180409.55686.joey@mingrone.org> In-Reply-To: <200407180409.55686.joey@mingrone.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-UID: 22 Message-Id: <200407180701.55899.joey@mingrone.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: NDISulator with Intel 2200 b/g on 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 10:02:00 -0000 On July 18, 2004 04:09, Joey Mingrone wrote: > Hi all, > > Here are the steps I took: > > I built a new kernel with "options KSTACK_PAGES=8" to accommodate the large > alloc the w22n51.sys driver makes on the kernel stack > > I added the following directories from CURRENT under my source tree: > src/sys/compat/ndis > sys/modules/ndis > sys/modules/if_ndis > src/sys/dev/if_ndis > src/usr.sbin/ndiscvt > > In /sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c I had to comment out the following > lines to get everything to build: > #include > kdb_enter("ntoskrnl_debugger(): breakpoint"); > > cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/ndiscvt > make > make install > > cd /sys/modules/ndis > make > make install > > I put w22n51.sys and w22n51.INF in /sys/modules/if_ndis. > If anyone is looking for these file they can be found inside this zip: > http://www.powernotebooks.com/Support/intel_2200_wlan.zip > > cd /sys/modules/if_ndis > ndiscvt -i w22n51.INF -s w22n51.sys -o ndis_driver_data.h > make > > I got an an error: "make: don't know how to make pccarddevs.h. Stop", so I > removed pccarddevs.h from /sys/modules/if_ndis/Makefile an it built okay. > > make install > > kldload -v ndis -> Loaded ndis, id=3 > kldload -v if_ndis -> worked sometimes, other times the command would just > hang, but the system would still be usable > > when kldload if_ndis did work, the output would look like: > ndis0: mem > 0xff9ee000-0xff9eef > ff irq 11 at device 2.0 on pci2 > ndis0: NDIS API version: 5.1 > ndis0: 11b rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps > ndis0: 11g rates: 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps > Loaded if_ndis, id=7 > > Then ifconfig -a would show: > > bge0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > options=1b > inet6 fe80::20e:a6ff:fec4:a0b1%bge0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 > inet 192.168.0.4 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 > ether 00:0e:a6:c4:a0:b1 > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status: active > plip0: flags=8810 mtu 1500 > lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 > inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 > inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 > ndis0: flags=8802 mtu 1500 > ether 00:0e:35:1f:df:57 > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect > status: no carrier > ssid "" > channel -1 authmode OPEN powersavemode OFF powersavesleep 100 > wepmode OFF weptxkey 1 > > Next I did: > > wicontrol -i ndis0 -l > output: 0 stations: > > ifconfig ndis0 inet 192.168.0.5 netmask 255.255.255.0 ssid 5270-4 > > Sometimes this would output: > ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists > > Other times it would work. I think doing "ifconfig bge0 down" first > helped. > > now the output from "ifconfig -a" looked like: > > bge0: flags=8802 mtu 1500 > options=1b > inet6 fe80::20e:a6ff:fec4:a0b1%bge0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 > inet 192.168.0.4 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 > ether 00:0e:a6:c4:a0:b1 > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status: active > plip0: flags=8810 mtu 1500 > lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 > inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 > inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 > ndis0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet6 fe80::20e:35ff:fe1f:df57%ndis0 prefixlen 64 duplicated > scopeid 0x4 > inet 192.168.0.5 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 > ether 00:0e:35:1f:df:57 > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (OFDM/54Mbps) > status: associated > ssid 5270-4 1:5270-4 > channel 6 authmode OPEN powersavemode OFF powersavesleep 100 > wepmode OFF weptxkey 1 > > wicontrol -i ndis0 -l: > 1 station: > ap[0]: > netname (SSID): [ 5270-4 ] > BSSID: [ 00:0f:66:36:cb:e8 ] > Channel: [ 6 ] > Quality/Signal/Noise [signal]: [ 115 / 115 / 0 ] > [dBm]: [ 115 / -34 / -149 ] > BSS Beacon Interval [msec]: [ 0 ] > Capinfo: [ ] > > Now I unplugged bge0 and successfully pinged 192.168.0.x addresses on the > local LAN using the ndis0. > > So that's what successfully worked. Here's are some of the problems: > > Even with a defaultrouter entry in rc.conf, nothing outside the local LAN > could be reached. > > Trying to loading the two ndis kernel modules from /boot/loader.conf > wouldn't allow the system to boot. > > I hope that all makes sense. > > Joey > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I hope my previous post was somewhat understandable. ....posting at 4:30 isn't such a good idea. So now it's after 6:00 and I'm replying to myself... I've managed to get a the driver working. I can ping outside hosts. What I did was disable everything to do with bge0 in rc.conf and when the system booted I just did: dhclient ndis0 (etc/dhclient.conf has: interface "ndis0" { media "ssid 5270-4"; }) and the modules were loaded automatically. Putting: ndis_load="YES" if_ndis_load="YES" if /boot/loader/conf fails with the following errors in /var/run/dmesg.boot had: Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0xc0a5d000. Preloaded elf module "/boot/kernel/if_ndis.ko" at 0xc0a5d1cc. Preloaded elf module "/boot/kernel/ndis.ko" at 0xc0a5d278. Preloaded elf module "/boot/kernel/wlan.ko" at 0xc0a5d324. Preloaded elf module "/boot/kernel/rc4.ko" at 0xc0a5d3d0. Preloaded elf module "/boot/kernel/acpi.ko" at 0xc0a5d478 ndis0: mem 0xff9ee000-0xff9eefff irq 11 at device 2.0 on pci2 ndis0: NDIS API version: 5.1 ndis0: NDIS ERROR: c00013a7 (unknown error) ndis0: NDIS NUMERRORS: 2 ndis0: argptr: 0x4e4f4c41 ndis0: argptr: 0x2cf ndis0: NDIS ERROR: c00013a7 (unknown error) ndis0: NDIS NUMERRORS: 2 ndis0: argptr: 0x4e4f4c41 ndis0: argptr: 0x2cf ndis0: NDIS ERROR: c00013a7 (unknown error) ndis0: NDIS NUMERRORS: 2 ndis0: argptr: 0x4e4f4c41 ndis0: argptr: 0x2cf ndis0: NDIS ERROR: c00013a7 (unknown error) ndis0: NDIS NUMERRORS: 2 ndis0: argptr: 0x4e4f4c41 ndis0: argptr: 0x2cf ndis0: NDIS ERROR: c00013a7 (unknown error) ndis0: NDIS NUMERRORS: 2 ndis0: argptr: 0x4e4f4c41 ndis0: argptr: 0x2cf ndis0: NDIS ERROR: c00013a7 (unknown error) ndis0: NDIS NUMERRORS: 2 ndis0: argptr: 0x4e4f4c41 ndis0: argptr: 0x2cf ndis0: NDIS ERROR: c00013a7 (unknown error) ndis0: NDIS NUMERRORS: 2 ndis0: argptr: 0x4e4f4c41 ndis0: argptr: 0x2cf ndis0: NDIS ERROR: c00013a7 (unknown error) ndis0: NDIS NUMERRORS: 2 ndis0: argptr: 0x4e4f4c41 ndis0: argptr: 0x184 ndis0: NDIS ERROR: c000138d (unknown error) ndis0: NDIS NUMERRORS: 0 ndis0: init handler failed device_probe_and_attach: ndis0 attach returned 6 I'm also seeing the following errors after running dhclient although the interface still get's an ip and everything seems to work: ndis0: couldn't retrieve channel info: 19 ndis0: couldn't retrieve channel info: 19 ndis0: couldn't retrieve channel info: 19 ndis0: link up Jul 18 05:34:01 karlsruhe kernel: ndis0: DAD detected duplicate IPv6 address f780:0104::021e:32ff:fe2f:df27: NS in/out=1/1, NA in=0 Jul 18 05:34:01 karlsruhe kernel: ndis0: DAD complete for f780:0104::021e:32ff:fe2f:df27 - duplicate found Jul 18 05:34:01 karlsruhe kernel: ndis0: manual intervention required Joey From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 20:42:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED0216A4D1 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 20:42:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4BCD943D3F for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 20:42:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from torstenvl@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 72so344460rnf for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 13:42:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.77.69 with SMTP id z69mr221683rna; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 13:42:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <126eac48040719134269856435@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 16:42:03 -0400 From: Josh Ockert To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Analog Devices AD1981B Codec Chip X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 20:42:04 -0000 Has anyone gotten sound to work using the AD1981B AC97 Codec chip? I have gotten it working under Gentoo using the i810_audio driver, but not under FreeBSD using snd_pcm. I have tried both loading the snd_pcm module, and compiling with device pcm and options PNPBIOS to no avail. After I do that I boot the new kernel and do cd /dev sh MAKEDEV snd0 but no sound devices appear. I do cat /dev/sndstat and it reports no devices installed. Please help :-( PS -- My laptop is a Toshiba Satellite A45-S120 in case it matters. Full specs: http://cdgenp01.csd.toshiba.com//content/product/pdf_files/detailed_specs/satellite_A45-S120.pdf From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 11:17:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB3B316A4CE for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 11:17:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gualeguaychu.gov.ar (host172.200-117-58.telecom.net.ar [200.117.58.172]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE3F43D5A for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 11:17:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rjpereyra@gualeguaychu.gov.ar) Received: by gualeguaychu.gov.ar (Postfix, from userid 1061) id 22DFD492D; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 08:16:53 -0300 (ART) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 08:16:52 -0300 From: Roberto Pereyra To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040720111652.GA40890@gualeguaychu.gov.ar> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Subject: Digi AccelePort 8r 920 freebsd support X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 11:17:35 -0000 Hi all ! Does have Digi AccelePort 8r 920 freebsd support ? I must use Freebsd 4.10 or 5.2x series ? Thanks in advance. roberto From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 21:50:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7839716A4CE for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 21:50:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from alcanet.com.au (mail2.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4952743D3F for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 21:50:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au) Received: from gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (IDENT:root@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])i6KLob3l027439; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 07:50:37 +1000 Received: from gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i6KLobks077295; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 07:50:37 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au) Received: (from pjeremy@localhost) by gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id i6KLoaHJ077294; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 07:50:36 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 07:50:36 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: Roberto Pereyra Message-ID: <20040720215036.GZ297@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: Roberto Pereyra , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org References: <20040720111652.GA40890@gualeguaychu.gov.ar> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040720111652.GA40890@gualeguaychu.gov.ar> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Digi AccelePort 8r 920 freebsd support X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 21:50:44 -0000 On 2004-Jul-20 08:16:52 -0300, Roberto Pereyra wrote: >Does have Digi AccelePort 8r 920 freebsd support ? It should be supported by digi(4) in 5.x. There's no support in 4.x -- Peter Jeremy From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 21:55:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C98CB16A4CE for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 21:55:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [63.229.157.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5626C43D62 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 21:55:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from runaround.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.org@lariat.org [63.229.157.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA24419 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 15:55:24 -0600 (MDT) X-message-flag: Warning! Use of Microsoft Outlook renders your system susceptible to Internet worms. Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20040720145450.0604eb18@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 15:54:52 -0600 To: hardware@freebsd.org From: Brett Glass Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Dell PERC RAID controller X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 21:55:30 -0000 Dell has recently announced that the firmware in some of its PERC RAID controllers is faulty and should be upgraded. I have a client who's running a FreeBSD system with one of these controllers. Unfortunately, Dell doesn't consider FreeBSD to be a "supported" operating system, and is offering CD-ROMs that install new firmware only for Windows or Red Hat Linux. It is unclear how they expect one to upgrade under a different OS. What do folks here know about the problems (which Dell didn't describe in detail)? Is the new firmware compatible with FreeBSD's drivers? How can one update the firmware from FreeBSD (run their Linux update under Linux emulation, perhaps)? One of the problems I'm facing, while researching this, is that Dell uses the name "PERC" for controllers that are actually made by at least two third party manufacturers. The messages that this one generates at boot time are: amr0: mem 0xfeb00000-0xfeb0ffff irq 7 at device 4.0 on pci0 amr0: Firmware 1.72, BIOS 3.27, 32MB RAM ... amrd0: on amr0 amrd0: 51834MB (106156032 sectors) RAID 5 (optimal) Any help in upgrading the faulty firmware would be MUCH appreciated. I don't subscribe to this list full-time, so please copy my address on followups. --Brett Glass From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 07:28:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02C6A16A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 07:28:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dd2626.kasserver.com (dd2626.kasserver.com [81.209.184.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E41043D1F for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 07:28:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from outi@bytephobia.de) Received: from duality.bytephobia.de (pD958E560.dip.t-dialin.net [217.88.229.96]) by dd2626.kasserver.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 34A345954C; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 09:28:40 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 09:34:33 +0200 From: Patrick Hurrelmann To: Brett Glass Message-Id: <20040721093433.68df6787@duality.bytephobia.de> In-Reply-To: <6.1.1.1.2.20040720145450.0604eb18@localhost> References: <6.1.1.1.2.20040720145450.0604eb18@localhost> Organization: private X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dell PERC RAID controller X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: outi@bytephobia.de List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 07:28:43 -0000 On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 15:54:52 -0600 Brett Glass wrote: > Dell has recently announced that the firmware in some of its PERC > RAID controllers is faulty and should be upgraded. I have a client > who's running a FreeBSD system with one of these controllers. > Unfortunately, Dell doesn't consider FreeBSD to be a "supported" > operating system, and is offering CD-ROMs that install new firmware > only for Windows or Red Hat Linux. It is unclear how they expect > one to upgrade under a different OS. > > What do folks here know about the problems (which Dell didn't > describe in detail)? Is the new firmware compatible with FreeBSD's > drivers? How can one update the firmware from FreeBSD (run their > Linux update under Linux emulation, perhaps)? > > One of the problems I'm facing, while researching this, is that > Dell uses the name "PERC" for controllers that are actually made by > at least two third party manufacturers. The messages that this one > generates at boot time are: > > amr0: mem 0xfeb00000-0xfeb0ffff irq 7 at device 4.0 on pci0 > amr0: Firmware 1.72, BIOS 3.27, 32MB RAM > > ... > > amrd0: on amr0 > amrd0: 51834MB (106156032 sectors) RAID 5 (optimal) > > Any help in upgrading the faulty firmware would be MUCH > appreciated. I don't subscribe to this list full-time, so please > copy my address on followups. > > --Brett Glass Hi, try upgrading with floppy images. we've upgraded all our dell-server (era-cards, system-bios + firmware, raid firmware on different PERC's) by floppys. you can download the images and prepare them somewhere else. i took the redhat images and used dd on my freebsd-box to write them to floppys. all went well. but you can use some old windows-machine, too. Patrick -- =========================================================================== Patrick Hurrelmann | "Programming today is a race between software Mannheim, Germany | engineers striving to build bigger and better | idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying outi at bytephobia.de | to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, www.bytephobia.de | the Universe is winning." - Rich Cook From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 18:02:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B123116A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 18:02:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from corp.xe.com (ws-gw.tor.xe.net [216.220.37.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1077B43D45 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 18:02:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from beric.farmer@xe.com) Received: from [192.168.1.102] ([192.168.1.102]) by corp.xe.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i6LI2g33065599; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 14:02:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from beric.farmer@xe.com) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 14:02:42 -0400 From: Beric Farmer To: Brett Glass Message-ID: <6B8A29C7C35B1EF902FF4FFD@[192.168.1.102]> In-Reply-To: <6.1.1.1.2.20040720145450.0604eb18@localhost> References: <6.1.1.1.2.20040720145450.0604eb18@localhost> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.5 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: undef - Sender Whitelisted (beric.farmer@xe.com: ) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . canit . ca) cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dell PERC RAID controller X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 18:02:44 -0000 Hi Brett. --On July 20, 2004 3:54 PM -0600 Brett Glass wrote: > > What do folks here know about the problems (which Dell didn't describe in > detail)? Is the new firmware compatible with FreeBSD's drivers? How can > one update the firmware from FreeBSD (run their Linux update under Linux > emulation, perhaps)? > I don't know if this will help or not, but we have two Dell PE 2450's with the PERC 3/Si controller (which I believe was manufactured by Adaptec). On both, we've had the controller lock up, hanging the machine. All drives and the RAID container itself were fine. Unfortunately, one of these times, the file system was corrupted beyond repair. It was somewhat frustrating that the RAID controller turned out to fail more frequently than a stand-alone hard drive. (Although, three of the eight 9GB Seagate SCSI drives that shipped with the systems have failed since we purchased them less than four years ago.) One other problem I experienced with the controller happened after one of the drives failed. The controller continued properly running on three drives of a four drive RAID 5 array, but when we hot-swapped the failed drive, the controller failed to automatically rebuild the array. It took a couple of hours of trial and error and a couple calls to Dell tech support to get the array to rebuild. I can't remember which version of FreeBSD the systems were running at the time the problems occurred. After having these problems, we decided a firmware upgrade for the controller couldn't hurt. We simply downloaded the update from Dell and applied it (it was a floppy-based upgrade). Since then, we have had no controller lock-ups, and when a drive failed, the controller automatically rebuilt the array when the failed drive was hot-swapped. However, we upgraded to a newer release of FreeBSD at the same time we upgraded the firmware, so I don't know if the OS played a role or not. Hope this is useful. Beric From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 10:05:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B369E16A4CE; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 10:05:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from osiris.itlegion.ru (osiris.itlegion.ru [212.248.52.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A95043D54; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 10:05:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) Received: from artem ([192.168.0.12]) by osiris.itlegion.ru (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id i6MA4mrk089620; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 14:04:48 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) X-AntiVirus: Checked by Dr.Web [version: 4.31a, engine: 4.31b, virus records: 52459, updated: 22.07.2004] Message-ID: <014f01c46fd3$577710e0$0c00a8c0@artem> From: "Artem Koutchine" To: Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 14:04:54 +0400 Organization: IT Legion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Is it possible to migrate raid 5 array to another controller? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 10:05:07 -0000 Hello! If i am running raid5 on 3ware can i use the same disk array as raid5 on, for example, high point controller without rebuilding the array, just reattching disks to a new controller? Basically, i am asking if raid5 is a industrially standard or every manufacturer adds something to its specs. Artem From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 12:35:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59B3A16A4CE; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 12:35:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from osiris.itlegion.ru (osiris.itlegion.ru [212.248.52.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EF4243D1F; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 12:35:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) Received: from artem ([192.168.0.12]) by osiris.itlegion.ru (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id i6MCZM0g091028; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 16:35:22 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) X-AntiVirus: Checked by Dr.Web [version: 4.31a, engine: 4.31b, virus records: 52459, updated: 22.07.2004] Message-ID: <01e801c46fe8$60091400$0c00a8c0@artem> From: "Artem Koutchine" To: Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 16:35:26 +0400 Organization: IT Legion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Anybody tried RocketRAID 1820A? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 12:35:31 -0000 Does anyone know how good it is? Does command queueing helps a lot? Are the drivers stable? Is it true hardware raid5? Regards, Artem From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 15:54:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C72216A4CE for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 15:54:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from godzilla.vipstructures.com (godzilla.vipstructures.com [216.175.208.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3479043D49 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 15:54:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from etoll@vipstructures.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.vipstructures.com [127.0.0.1]) by godzilla.vipstructures.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6408928480 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 11:54:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from godzilla.vipstructures.com ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 38023-04 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 11:54:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mothra.vipstructures.com (mothra.vipstructures.com [192.168.1.3]) by godzilla.vipstructures.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7E8928440 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 11:54:53 -0400 (EDT) content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 11:54:53 -0400 Message-ID: <9BC86C67C3AF7646B9C5382020457A944E4C2A@VIP10-WIN2K> From: "Eric Toll" To: "Artem Koutchine" X-Antivirus: checked by Norton Anti Virus X-MTA-Mailer: Postfix 2 by Wietse Venema - http://www.postfix.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on godzilla.vipstructures.com cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Is it possible to migrate raid 5 array to another controller? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 15:54:56 -0000 =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org=20 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of=20 > Artem Koutchine > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 6:05 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org > Subject: Is it possible to migrate raid 5 array to another controller? >=20 > Hello! >=20 > If i am running raid5 on 3ware can i use the same disk array as > raid5 on, for example, high point controller without=20 > rebuilding the array, just reattching disks to a new=20 > controller? Basically, i am asking if raid5 is a industrially=20 > standard or every manufacturer adds something to its specs. >=20 > Artem Hmm, I'm thinking no. In order for the new controler to work it needs = to be setup. When new it has no config. You'd need to create a logical = drive stripe size, array size etc from the new controller bios point of view.=20 Make sure these settings are exactly the same setup as the old = controller is using. Usually creating a logical drive (RAID X) Is a destructive process. I = could be wrong. =20 Get a good backup first before changing controllers, then try it, and = you'll have Nothing but time to loose. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 16:12:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5826616A4CE for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 16:12:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.newlines.ru (mail.newlines.ru [195.54.211.132]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFCE043D49 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 16:12:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anton@nikiforov.ru) Received: from mail.newlines.ru (root@localhost) by mail.newlines.ru (8.12.10/8.12.9) with SMTP id i6MGBfm9061439 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 16:11:56 GMT (envelope-from anton@nikiforov.ru) Received: from [192.168.20.3] (florent-mashin.rmt.ru [81.13.8.34]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.newlines.ru (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i6MGB0Jd060366 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 16:11:35 GMT (envelope-from anton@nikiforov.ru) Message-ID: <40FFE6FF.5010901@nikiforov.ru> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 20:10:39 +0400 From: Anton Nikiforov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040630 X-Accept-Language: ru, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org References: <9BC86C67C3AF7646B9C5382020457A944E4C2A@VIP10-WIN2K> In-Reply-To: <9BC86C67C3AF7646B9C5382020457A944E4C2A@VIP10-WIN2K> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms010007070908060107050800" Subject: Re: Is it possible to migrate raid 5 array to another controller? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: anton@nikiforov.ru List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 16:12:14 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms010007070908060107050800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eric Toll wrote: > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org >>[mailto:owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of >>Artem Koutchine >>Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 6:05 AM >>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org >>Subject: Is it possible to migrate raid 5 array to another controller? >> >>Hello! >> >>If i am running raid5 on 3ware can i use the same disk array as >>raid5 on, for example, high point controller without >>rebuilding the array, just reattching disks to a new >>controller? Basically, i am asking if raid5 is a industrially >>standard or every manufacturer adds something to its specs. >> >>Artem > > > Hmm, I'm thinking no. In order for the new controler to work it needs to > be setup. When new it has no config. You'd need to create a logical drive > stripe size, array size etc from the new controller bios point of view. > Make sure these settings are exactly the same setup as the old controller is using. > Usually creating a logical drive (RAID X) Is a destructive process. I could be wrong. > Get a good backup first before changing controllers, then try it, and you'll have > Nothing but time to loose. > Hello! I could sertify that you cannot use the same drive on another controller without destruction of the data. Even if the controller storing volume's data on the disks in RAID. All controllers have their own DDF (Disk data format) so they wount read disk from another controllers properly. 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Thu, 22 Jul 2004 16:36:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from supermarine.crossflight.co.uk (supermarine.crossflight.co.uk [195.172.72.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 838A943D4C for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 16:36:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from guy@crossflight.co.uk) Received: from mailscan1.crossflight.co.uk (mailscan1.crossflight.co.uk [195.172.72.202])i6MGa08g069779 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 17:36:00 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from guy@crossflight.co.uk) Received: from [195.172.72.7] (unverified) by mailscan1.crossflight.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.3.1) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 17:35:59 +0100 Message-ID: <40FFECEF.7040008@crossflight.co.uk> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 17:35:59 +0100 From: Guy Dawson Organization: Crossflight Limited User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.2 (Windows/20040707) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Toll References: <9BC86C67C3AF7646B9C5382020457A944E4C2A@VIP10-WIN2K> In-Reply-To: <9BC86C67C3AF7646B9C5382020457A944E4C2A@VIP10-WIN2K> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.63-supermarine_global_rules_20040702b X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63-supermarine_global_rules_20040702b (2004-01-11) on supermarine.crossflight.co.uk cc: Artem Koutchine cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is it possible to migrate raid 5 array to another controller? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 16:36:04 -0000 Eric Toll wrote: > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org >>[mailto:owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of >>Artem Koutchine >>Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 6:05 AM >>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org >>Subject: Is it possible to migrate raid 5 array to another controller? >> >>Hello! >> >>If i am running raid5 on 3ware can i use the same disk array as >>raid5 on, for example, high point controller without >>rebuilding the array, just reattching disks to a new >>controller? Basically, i am asking if raid5 is a industrially >>standard or every manufacturer adds something to its specs. >> >>Artem > > > Hmm, I'm thinking no. In order for the new controler to work it needs to > be setup. When new it has no config. You'd need to create a logical drive > stripe size, array size etc from the new controller bios point of view. > Make sure these settings are exactly the same setup as the old controller is using. > Usually creating a logical drive (RAID X) Is a destructive process. I could be wrong. > Get a good backup first before changing controllers, then try it, and you'll have > Nothing but time to loose. I'm agreeing no. There's no standard for how a controller should write RAID meta data to the disks in the array. We have moved disks from one Compaq RAID controller to a newer model but that's because Compaq does, in part, have it's own internal standard for storing meta data. Guy -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Guy Dawson I.T. 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We strongly recommend that you check this email with your own virus software as Crossflight Limited will not be held responsible for any damage caused by viruses as a result of opening this email. ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 17:04:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B9CA16A4CE for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 17:04:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp2.linkline.com (smtp2.linkline.com [64.30.215.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5311D43D2D for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 17:04:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sclements@linkline.com) Received: from samclementsde (host-66-59-225-129.lcinet.net [66.59.225.129]) by smtp2.linkline.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06BFA116; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 10:04:19 -0700 (PDT) From: "Samuel Clements" To: "'Guy Dawson'" , "'Eric Toll'" Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 10:04:20 -0700 Organization: linkLINE Communications, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <40FFECEF.7040008@crossflight.co.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2149 Thread-Index: AcRwCiB4BrluJExqS8KKyq+9/QSMXQAA2p/w Message-Id: <20040722170419.06BFA116@smtp2.linkline.com> cc: 'Artem Koutchine' cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Is it possible to migrate raid 5 array to another controller? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: sclements@linkline.com List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 17:04:21 -0000 > I'm agreeing no. There's no standard for how a controller should > write RAID meta data to the disks in the array. We have moved disks > from one Compaq RAID controller to a newer model but that's because > Compaq does, in part, have it's own internal standard for storing > meta data. With the only possible exception to this being controllers from manufacturers that have been purchased from someone else. Eg: from an ICP Vortex to an Intel, but even then it'd only be specific models. -Sam From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 18:09:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB7DF16A4CE for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 18:09:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B08643D31 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 18:09:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kwortman@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id m68so42618rne for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 11:09:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.90.2 with SMTP id n2mr182779rnb; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 11:09:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 11:09:13 -0700 From: Kevin Wortman To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: USB sound card causes system lockup X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 18:09:19 -0000 Hi, I posted this to -questions and didn't get any responses, so I thought I'd try -hardware. I am trying to get a Creative Sound Blaster MP3+ USB sound card to work under 5.2.1. I added snd_uaudio_load="YES" to /boot/loader.conf, and dmesg shows the device being found: uaudio_add_selector: NOT IMPLEMENTED uaudio0: audio rev 1.00 pcm0: on uaudio0 There are /dev/dsp* and /dev/mixer entries, and usbdevs shows addr 1: OHCI root hub, SiS addr 2: USB Audio, Creative addr 1: OHCI root hub, SiS addr 1: OHCI root hub, SiS addr 2: ORTEK USB Combo Keyboard, ORTEK However any time I interact with the sound card, for example starting esd, the system locks up hard. Will not respond to CTRL-ALT-Backspace or -Delete or pings. Any suggestions? Thanks, Kevin Wortman From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 00:16:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97DDD16A4CF for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 00:16:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx1.freebsdsystems.com (mx1.FreeBSDsystems.COM [69.90.68.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8FF43D45 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 00:15:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lnb@FreeBSDsystems.COM) Received: (qmail 56665 invoked by uid 3011); 23 Jul 2004 00:14:51 -0000 Received: from lnb@FreeBSDsystems.COM by mx1.freebsdsystems.com by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.21 (clamscan: 0.54. f-prot: 3.12/. Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.631783 secs); 23 Jul 2004 00:14:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.freebsdsystems.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.freebsdsystems.com with SMTP; 23 Jul 2004 00:14:50 -0000 Received: from port-213-148-158-35.static.qsc.de ([213.148.158.35]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user lnb@freebsdsystems.com) by mail.freebsdsystems.com with HTTP; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 20:14:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1026.213.148.158.35.1090541690.squirrel@mail.freebsdsystems.com> In-Reply-To: <01e801c46fe8$60091400$0c00a8c0@artem> References: <01e801c46fe8$60091400$0c00a8c0@artem> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 20:14:50 -0400 (EDT) From: "Lanny Baron" To: "Artem Koutchine" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anybody tried RocketRAID 1820A? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 00:16:00 -0000 If you want a good RAID controller, use Intel SRCZCR. It does RAID-5 and if you had a defective controller and the controller was replaced, your RAID would be intact. I am speaking of SCSI RAID. Hope that helps. Lanny > Does anyone know how good it is? Does command > queueing helps a lot? Are the drivers stable? Is it true > hardware raid5? > > Regards, > Artem > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= Lanny Baron Proud to be 100% FreeBSD http://www.FreeBSDsystems.COM North American Toll Free: 1.877.963.1900 European Toll Free http://www.freebsdsystems.com/toll_fr.html =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 00:22:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F2D716A4CF for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 00:22:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cube.gelatinous.com (rdns.106.161.62.64.fre.communitycolo.net [64.62.161.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D4D843D48 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 00:22:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scott@gelatinous.com) Received: (qmail 52322 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2004 00:22:29 -0000 Received: from dsl093-129-198.sfo4.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO tinny.home.foo) (66.93.129.198)SMTP; 23 Jul 2004 00:22:29 -0000 From: "Scott T. Smith" To: Lanny Baron In-Reply-To: <1026.213.148.158.35.1090541690.squirrel@mail.freebsdsystems.com> References: <01e801c46fe8$60091400$0c00a8c0@artem> <1026.213.148.158.35.1090541690.squirrel@mail.freebsdsystems.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1090542145.26328.77.camel@tinny.home.foo> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 17:22:26 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Artem Koutchine cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anybody tried RocketRAID 1820A? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 00:22:31 -0000 On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 17:14, Lanny Baron wrote: > If you want a good RAID controller, use Intel SRCZCR. It does RAID-5 and > if you had a defective controller and the controller was replaced, your > RAID would be intact. > > I am speaking of SCSI RAID. isn't the 1820A a SATA RAID controller? >From glancing at the Linux source for the driver, I assume it is not a true hardware RAID controller. But at half the price of the 3ware controller, and with the added benefit of PCI-X, it may be worth considering anyways. Scott From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 03:21:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 234FB16A4CE for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 03:21:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (sea1-f157.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.163.157]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D85EC43D4C for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 03:21:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tpen0010@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 20:21:21 -0700 Received: from 207.237.44.20 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 03:21:21 GMT X-Originating-IP: [207.237.44.20] X-Originating-Email: [tpen0010@hotmail.com] X-Sender: tpen0010@hotmail.com From: "Michael Roberts" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 23:21:21 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jul 2004 03:21:21.0611 (UTC) FILETIME=[206A89B0:01C47064] Subject: Project Evil -- ndis with 2200bg with dstumbler/dweputils X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 03:21:24 -0000 hi, i've been trying to get the intel pro/wireless 2200bg working with dstumbler/bsd-airtools, and have not had much success. i have the ndis wrapper successfully compiled in, and running commands like "wicontrol -i ndis0 -l" gives good output. however, running dwepdump or dstumbler doesn't give any output. so am i doing something wrong, or does ndis not work with those programs? if so, are there any other similar programs which do? much thanks. _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 04:12:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F1C16A4CE for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 04:12:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [63.229.157.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D44543D2F for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 04:12:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from runaround.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.org@lariat.org [63.229.157.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA04167; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 22:12:09 -0600 (MDT) X-message-flag: Warning! Use of Microsoft Outlook renders your system susceptible to Internet worms. Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20040722220519.0951b4e0@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 22:12:08 -0600 To: outi@bytephobia.de From: Brett Glass In-Reply-To: <20040721093433.68df6787@duality.bytephobia.de> References: <6.1.1.1.2.20040720145450.0604eb18@localhost> <20040721093433.68df6787@duality.bytephobia.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dell PERC RAID controller X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 04:12:21 -0000 At 01:34 AM 7/21/2004, Patrick Hurrelmann wrote: >Hi, > >try upgrading with floppy images. we've upgraded all our dell-server (era-cards, system-bios + firmware, raid firmware on different PERC's) by floppys. > >you can download the images and prepare them somewhere else. i took the redhat images and used dd on my freebsd-box to write them to floppys. We've asked Dell for the Red Hat and Windows upgrade CDs. Because they're CDs, and we're not dealing with old Apple or Sun machines, they will almost certainly be in the standard 9660 format. Will there be a file there that's just a straight byte-by-byte image of the sectors of a bootable upgrade floppy? (I hope so; in that case, I could take it to nearly any machine -- including a DOS machine with rawrite or fdimage -- and make a diskette.) --Brett From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 08:17:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD55F16A4CE for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 08:17:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from eddie.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE7543D4C for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 08:17:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@eddie.nitro.dk) Received: by eddie.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6CC14117EC; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:17:54 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:17:54 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Michael Roberts Message-ID: <20040723081753.GB45938@eddie.nitro.dk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pvezYHf7grwyp3Bc" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Project Evil -- ndis with 2200bg with dstumbler/dweputils X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 08:17:56 -0000 --pvezYHf7grwyp3Bc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2004.07.22 23:21:21 -0400, Michael Roberts wrote: > i've been trying to get the intel pro/wireless 2200bg working with=20 > dstumbler/bsd-airtools, and have not had much success. i have the ndis= =20 > wrapper successfully compiled in, and running commands like "wicontrol -i= =20 > ndis0 -l" gives good output. however, running dwepdump or dstumbler=20 > doesn't give any output. >=20 > so am i doing something wrong, or does ndis not work with those programs?= =20 > if so, are there any other similar programs which do? NDIS (the API) does not have support for packet sniffing, so dstumbler and similar tools cannot work with the NDIS wrapper. Bill Paul wrote a longer explanation about why a few weeks ago to some list (probably current@, but I'm not sure). --=20 Simon L. Nielsen FreeBSD Documentation Team --pvezYHf7grwyp3Bc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBAMmxh9pcDSc1mlERAuDvAKDFuIDCcqFBOus9EVOqwAFNu5JdHACfVYik iooODom6+UbUtPUxEuftnAw= =Fsy6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pvezYHf7grwyp3Bc-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 14:28:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328B116A4CE; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 14:28:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (u46n208.hfx.eastlink.ca [24.222.46.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C66143D46; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 14:28:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 41F6F3BBE6; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 11:28:08 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E9B93BB5C; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 11:28:08 -0300 (ADT) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 11:28:08 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040723112232.D909@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Intel SCRZCR Controller on Tyan K7XPro Motherboard ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 14:28:08 -0000 According to the Tyan web site "Adaptec and Intel Zero-Channel RAID ready" ... has anyone successfully gotten the above MB working with the above controller? We just built a new system, everything appears to work great until we plug in the ZCR, at which point, as the techie describes: "When I boot the server up with that raid card in the proper slot, it just powers itself off immediately." Now, I'm pretty much ready to say to hell with it and go with s/w RAID, but I want to make sure we haven't overlooked something obvious here first ... Thoughts? Advice? Thanks ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 17:50:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC85016A4CE for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 17:50:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from error404.nls.net (error404.nls.net [216.144.36.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CAFE43D2F for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 17:50:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ketrien@error404.nls.net) Received: from eiterra.error404.nls.net (eiterra.achedra.org [192.168.0.100]) by error404.nls.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6NHogkp096674; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 13:50:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ketrien@error404.nls.net) Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20040723134345.02ce5508@error404.nls.net> X-Sender: ketrien@error404.nls.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 13:48:16 -0400 To: Brett Glass From: "Ketrien I. Saihr-Kesenchedra" In-Reply-To: <6.1.1.1.2.20040722220519.0951b4e0@localhost> References: <6.1.1.1.2.20040720145450.0604eb18@localhost> <20040721093433.68df6787@duality.bytephobia.de> <6.1.1.1.2.20040722220519.0951b4e0@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dell PERC RAID controller X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 17:50:44 -0000 At 12:12 AM 7/23/2004, you wrote: >Will there be a file there that's just a straight byte-by-byte image of >the sectors of a bootable upgrade floppy? (I hope so; in that case, I >could take it to nearly any machine -- including a DOS machine with >rawrite or fdimage -- and make a diskette.) There's probably not a boot image on the CD, if that's what you mena. However, if there's a binary image of the update, depending on how they did it, it should be easy enough to write an updater for FreeBSD. If it actually runs on the on-card processors, writing something to flash them under FreeBSD would be almost trivial. (The i960's just need to be reset, and then dump it into a specific register. ARMs should have a similar capability.) -Ketrien I. Saihr-Kesenchedra # Maybe this world is another planet's hell. --Aldous Huxley Feanor smiles, "We, of course, are enlightened and s/Maybe t/T" From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 20:31:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8111116A50B; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 20:31:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (sea1-f157.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.163.157]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 699D243D3F; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 20:31:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tpen0010@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 13:31:18 -0700 Received: from 207.237.44.20 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 20:31:17 GMT X-Originating-IP: [207.237.44.20] X-Originating-Email: [tpen0010@hotmail.com] X-Sender: tpen0010@hotmail.com From: "Michael Roberts" To: simon@FreeBSD.org Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 16:31:17 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jul 2004 20:31:18.0145 (UTC) FILETIME=[02054F10:01C470F4] cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Project Evil -- ndis with 2200bg with dstumbler/dweputils X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 20:31:18 -0000 thanks for your reply. i looked around for the post you mentioned, but i couldn't find it. do you have any more recollection as to where it would be? thx for any help. mike >From: "Simon L. Nielsen" >To: Michael Roberts >CC: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Project Evil -- ndis with 2200bg with dstumbler/dweputils >Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:17:54 +0200 > >On 2004.07.22 23:21:21 -0400, Michael Roberts wrote: > > > i've been trying to get the intel pro/wireless 2200bg working with > > dstumbler/bsd-airtools, and have not had much success. i have the ndis > > wrapper successfully compiled in, and running commands like "wicontrol >-i > > ndis0 -l" gives good output. however, running dwepdump or dstumbler > > doesn't give any output. > > > > so am i doing something wrong, or does ndis not work with those >programs? > > if so, are there any other similar programs which do? > >NDIS (the API) does not have support for packet sniffing, so dstumbler >and similar tools cannot work with the NDIS wrapper. Bill Paul wrote a >longer explanation about why a few weeks ago to some list (probably >current@, but I'm not sure). > >-- >Simon L. Nielsen >FreeBSD Documentation Team ><< attach3 >> _________________________________________________________________ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page – FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 21:09:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFAF016A4CE for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 21:09:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zaphod.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5689F43D3F for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 21:09:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@zaphod.nitro.dk) Received: by zaphod.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 3000) id 1BCB7119B1; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 23:09:03 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 23:09:02 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Michael Roberts Message-ID: <20040723210902.GB740@zaphod.nitro.dk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="b5gNqxB1S1yM7hjW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Project Evil -- ndis with 2200bg with dstumbler/dweputils X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 21:09:05 -0000 --b5gNqxB1S1yM7hjW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2004.07.23 16:31:17 -0400, Michael Roberts wrote: > thanks for your reply. i looked around for the post you mentioned, but i > couldn't find it. do you have any more recollection as to where it would > be? thx for any help. I think I was thinking of another mail, but the one I could find: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?20040602014700.D3A3216A4CF which I think explains the main points. > >From: "Simon L. Nielsen" > >To: Michael Roberts > >CC: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org > >Subject: Re: Project Evil -- ndis with 2200bg with dstumbler/dweputils > >Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:17:54 +0200 > > > >On 2004.07.22 23:21:21 -0400, Michael Roberts wrote: > > > >> i've been trying to get the intel pro/wireless 2200bg working with > >> dstumbler/bsd-airtools, and have not had much success. i have the ndis > >> wrapper successfully compiled in, and running commands like "wicontrol > >-i > >> ndis0 -l" gives good output. however, running dwepdump or dstumbler > >> doesn't give any output. > >> > >> so am i doing something wrong, or does ndis not work with those > >programs? > >> if so, are there any other similar programs which do? > > > >NDIS (the API) does not have support for packet sniffing, so dstumbler > >and similar tools cannot work with the NDIS wrapper. Bill Paul wrote a > >longer explanation about why a few weeks ago to some list (probably > >current@, but I'm not sure). --=20 Simon L. Nielsen FreeBSD Documentation Team --b5gNqxB1S1yM7hjW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBAX5uh9pcDSc1mlERAjUnAJ9xZIsSfNXE5LkONtbdPQ/IJZ5ULgCgk/wg XygoNRO3LeJTT6bblh2fOf0= =7g4G -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --b5gNqxB1S1yM7hjW-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 22:07:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB60516A4CE; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 22:07:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (sea1-f159.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.163.159]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8A2643D2F; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 22:07:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tpen0010@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 15:07:04 -0700 Received: from 207.237.44.20 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 22:07:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [207.237.44.20] X-Originating-Email: [tpen0010@hotmail.com] X-Sender: tpen0010@hotmail.com From: "Michael Roberts" To: simon@FreeBSD.org Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 18:07:04 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jul 2004 22:07:04.0476 (UTC) FILETIME=[6319D5C0:01C47101] cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Project Evil -- ndis with 2200bg with dstumbler/dweputils X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 22:07:05 -0000 thanks for your help, that explains alot, actually. ah well, time to go buy a prism2 card... mike >From: "Simon L. Nielsen" >To: Michael Roberts >CC: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Project Evil -- ndis with 2200bg with dstumbler/dweputils >Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 23:09:02 +0200 > >On 2004.07.23 16:31:17 -0400, Michael Roberts wrote: > > thanks for your reply. i looked around for the post you mentioned, but >i > > couldn't find it. do you have any more recollection as to where it >would > > be? thx for any help. > >I think I was thinking of another mail, but the one I could find: >http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?20040602014700.D3A3216A4CF which I >think explains the main points. > > > >From: "Simon L. Nielsen" > > >To: Michael Roberts > > >CC: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org > > >Subject: Re: Project Evil -- ndis with 2200bg with dstumbler/dweputils > > >Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:17:54 +0200 > > > > > >On 2004.07.22 23:21:21 -0400, Michael Roberts wrote: > > > > > >> i've been trying to get the intel pro/wireless 2200bg working with > > >> dstumbler/bsd-airtools, and have not had much success. i have the >ndis > > >> wrapper successfully compiled in, and running commands like >"wicontrol > > >-i > > >> ndis0 -l" gives good output. however, running dwepdump or dstumbler > > >> doesn't give any output. > > >> > > >> so am i doing something wrong, or does ndis not work with those > > >programs? > > >> if so, are there any other similar programs which do? > > > > > >NDIS (the API) does not have support for packet sniffing, so dstumbler > > >and similar tools cannot work with the NDIS wrapper. Bill Paul wrote a > > >longer explanation about why a few weeks ago to some list (probably > > >current@, but I'm not sure). > >-- >Simon L. Nielsen >FreeBSD Documentation Team ><< attach3 >> _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 22:39:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BF1916A4CE; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 22:39:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gaff.hhhr.ision.net (gaff.hhhr.ision.net [195.180.9.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D20D943D2F; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 22:39:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ohoyer@ohoyer.de) Received: from gaff.hhhr.ision.net (ohoyer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gaff.hhhr.ision.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6NMdVf5018593; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 00:39:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ohoyer@ohoyer.de) Received: from localhost (ohoyer@localhost)i6NMdTlL018590; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 00:39:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ohoyer@ohoyer.de) X-Authentication-Warning: gaff.hhhr.ision.net: ohoyer owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 00:39:29 +0200 (CEST) From: Olaf Hoyer Sender: ohoyer@gaff.hhhr.ision.net To: "Marc G. Fournier" In-Reply-To: <20040723112232.D909@ganymede.hub.org> Message-ID: <20040724003645.V18285@gaff.hhhr.ision.net> References: <20040723112232.D909@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel SCRZCR Controller on Tyan K7XPro Motherboard ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 22:39:26 -0000 On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > According to the Tyan web site "Adaptec and Intel Zero-Channel RAID ready" > ... has anyone successfully gotten the above MB working with the above > controller? > > We just built a new system, everything appears to work great until we plug > in the ZCR, at which point, as the techie describes: "When I boot the > server up with that raid card in the proper slot, it just powers itself > off immediately." > > Now, I'm pretty much ready to say to hell with it and go with s/w RAID, > but I want to make sure we haven't overlooked something obvious here first > ... Hmm, a quick shot: Is it the same zero-Channel card that Intel also sells for the Sun Fire 65x series? Then its basically a ICP-Vortex design, and I remember, that on Intel Mainboards you need to plug it in a special slot, because it only works in that slot properly. Got some time ago a 65x for a short time to test, and that card worked properly with 4.9R and 5.2.1R. HTH Olaf -- Olaf Hoyer ohoyer@gaff.hhhr.ision.net Fuerchterliche Erlebniss geben zu raten, ob der, welcher sie erlebt, nicht etwas Fuerchterliches ist. (Nietzsche, Jenseits von Gut und Boese) From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 18:49:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A43516A4CF for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 18:49:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from haggis.it.ca (haggis.it.ca [216.126.86.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1562B43D2D for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 18:49:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from paul@haggis.it.ca) Received: from haggis.it.ca (paul@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by haggis.it.ca (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6OInVFr026988 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 14:49:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from paul@haggis.it.ca) Received: (from paul@localhost) by haggis.it.ca (8.12.11/8.12.6/Submit) id i6OInUUR026987 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 14:49:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from paul) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 14:49:30 -0400 From: Paul Chvostek To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040724184930.GA22085@it.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Multi-Tech Systems ISO3334 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 18:49:32 -0000 I just acquired a card apparently manufactured by Multi-Tech Systems Inc (http://www.multitech.com/), model number ISI3334/4. I'm hoping it can be used as a multi-port serial card, but documentation seems to suggest that it has on-board V.34 modems, which would make it useful only for FAX applications, as far as I can tell. I see commentary on mailing lists that indicate folks are using similar cards in Linux, so it's possible that driver support is at least "out there". Is the ISI3334 compatible with anything supported by FreeBSD? Thanks. -- Paul Chvostek From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 24 18:51:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01DD216A4CE for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 18:51:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from haggis.it.ca (haggis.it.ca [216.126.86.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B5A43D2D for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 18:51:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from paul@haggis.it.ca) Received: from haggis.it.ca (paul@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by haggis.it.ca (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6OIpj4c027524 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 14:51:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from paul@haggis.it.ca) Received: (from paul@localhost) by haggis.it.ca (8.12.11/8.12.6/Submit) id i6OIpjWh027523 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 14:51:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from paul) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 14:51:45 -0400 From: Paul Chvostek To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040724185145.GC22085@it.ca> References: <20040724184930.GA22085@it.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040724184930.GA22085@it.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: Multi-Tech Systems IS[OI]3334 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 18:51:47 -0000 On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 02:49:30PM -0400, Paul Chvostek wrote: > Subject: Multi-Tech Systems ISO3334 ? Doh. ISI3334, of course. -- Paul Chvostek