From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 00:31:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA14F16A4CE for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 00:31:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.emediaone.net (orion.emediaone.net [203.208.226.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF4643D39 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 00:31:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jett@angdatingdaan.org) Received: from mail.emediaone.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.emediaone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C0D245089 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 08:33:43 +0800 (SGT) Received: from mail.angdatingdaan.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.emediaone.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 4303645086 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 08:33:43 +0800 (SGT) Received: from devnull.chikka.com ([203.190.72.108]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user jett@angdatingdaan.org) by mail.angdatingdaan.org with HTTP; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 08:33:43 +0800 (SGT) Message-ID: <33061.203.190.72.108.1097541223.squirrel@mail.angdatingdaan.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 08:33:43 +0800 (SGT) From: "Jett Tayer" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: Add/Del users X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 00:31:32 -0000 you can use the cut and get just all the users and put it in a file. remove root,nobody,etc... and just leave all the users you want to add cut -d ":" /etc/passwd > /path/to/myusers.file then do a for loop something like: for i in `/bin/cat /path/to/myusers.file` do pw useradd $i done hope this helps! /Jett > > Weve been migrating some our servers from BSD/OS to FreeBSD. Main issue > I'm running into is add/del/changing users. The old app we used under > BSD/OS is not ported to FreeBSD (its a custom C cgi) author long gone, > some of the header files needed to compile said cgi's not around, missing > some source too so a port is out. > > Ive done a simple cgi that calls pw that took me a few days to put > together in my spare time. > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 11:52:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D28316A4CE for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:52:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay3-f18.bay3.hotmail.com [65.54.169.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F4043D2F for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:52:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tearrs@msn.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 04:52:00 -0700 Received: from 202.147.171.66 by by3fd.bay3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:51:35 GMT X-Originating-IP: [202.147.171.66] X-Originating-Email: [tearrs@msn.com] X-Sender: tearrs@msn.com From: "Umar Draz" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:51:35 +0500 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Oct 2004 11:52:00.0978 (UTC) FILETIME=[E25CAB20:01C4B051] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Question about Syslogd (urgent) X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:52:01 -0000 HI Dear Members! i have a Freebsd 4.10 Machine there i have configure DNS (chroot) , apache+php+mysql (chroot) enviornment also i have configure ipfilter for firewall. i have a question about syslogd i already mentiond that i have configure DNS with chroot and apache+php+mysql with chroot for dns i have add this line in my rc.conf syslogd_flags="-s -l /var/named/dev/log" for apache i have add this line in my rc.conf syslogd_flags="-l /opt/httpd/dev/log" for ipfilter firewall i have add this line in my rc.conf syslogd_flags="-ss" now my question is that this method is ok or wrong because when i see my /opt/httpd/dev directory there is no log and same like in /var/named/dev so plz help me what i can to do for because i have a one machine and i want run (DNS with chroot, apache+php+mysql with chroot and also ipfilter firewall) thanks and regards umar Draz _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! 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References 1. http://g.msn.com/8HMAEN/2743??PS=47575 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 19:04:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C60516A4CE for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 19:04:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from whitehall.lin-tech.net (whitehall.lin-tech.net [66.118.35.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F32BC43D3F for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 19:04:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@buckhorn.net) Received: from [209.169.69.87] (lfkn-adsl-209-169-69-87.txucom.net [209.169.69.87]) by whitehall.lin-tech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FE86FDB4; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:05:02 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <416C2AD0.4040405@buckhorn.net> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:04:48 -0500 From: Bob Martin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8a3) Gecko/20040926 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Umar Draz References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd and fprot cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question about Syslogd (urgent) X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 19:04:59 -0000 When you jail a process, you must log to a directory inside of the jailed space. If Apache is in /opt/httpd, then the logs must also be there. You also need to be sure that the user the process runs under has write permissions to the file/directory. (e.g. the bind user has write permissions to the DNS log directory) Bob Martin Umar Draz wrote: > HI Dear Members! > > i have a Freebsd 4.10 Machine there i have configure DNS (chroot) , > apache+php+mysql (chroot) enviornment also i have configure ipfilter > for firewall. > > i have a question about syslogd > > i already mentiond that i have configure DNS with chroot and > apache+php+mysql with chroot > > for dns i have add this line in my rc.conf > syslogd_flags="-s -l /var/named/dev/log" > > for apache i have add this line in my rc.conf > syslogd_flags="-l /opt/httpd/dev/log" > > for ipfilter firewall i have add this line in my rc.conf > syslogd_flags="-ss" > > now my question is that this method is ok or wrong because when i see > my /opt/httpd/dev directory there is no log and same like in > /var/named/dev > > so plz help me what i can to do for because i have a one machine and i > want run (DNS with chroot, apache+php+mysql with chroot and also > ipfilter firewall) > > thanks and regards > > umar Draz > _________________________________________________________________ > > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! [1]MSN Messenger > Download today it's FREE! > > References > > 1. http://g.msn.com/8HMAEN/2743??PS=47575 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 21:22:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B414216A4CE for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 21:22:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from soyouz2.netaktiv.com (ns2.netaktiv.com [80.67.170.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E75443D2D for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 21:22:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bortzmeyer@nic.fr) Received: by soyouz2.netaktiv.com (Postfix, from userid 10) id 46914A7BD6; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 23:22:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from sources.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.sources.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A91A148D1 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 23:20:51 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 (debian 2.5-1) with nmh-1.0.4+dev From: Stephane Bortzmeyer To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 23:20:51 +0200 Message-Id: <20041012212051.5A91A148D1@mail.sources.org> Subject: Documentation of big "mail systems"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 21:22:03 -0000 I'm currently writing a proposal for a webmail service for, say, 50 000 to 500 000 users. I'm looking for description of existing "big mail" systems, using technologies like scalemail (http://scalemail.sourceforge.net/), specially with an emphasis on the storage subsystem for the servers (my weak point, I don't really have enough experience with SAN, NAS, and so on). Of course, with a FreeBSD (and free software) bias :-) I do not need general advice (such as "Postfix rules, Exim sucks" or "Maildirs are faster") but actual description of existing and running systems. Googling seems inefficient for that purpose and I presume that many interesting papers are only in closed and paying conference proceedings :-( From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 21:50:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E2416A4CE for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 21:50:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F73343D1F for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 21:50:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vladgalu@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 74so497127rnk for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:50:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.165.75 with SMTP id n75mr2071402rne; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:50:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.39.1.10 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:50:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <79722fad04101214505dd69738@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 00:50:08 +0300 From: Vlad GALU To: Stephane Bortzmeyer In-Reply-To: <20041012212051.5A91A148D1@mail.sources.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041012212051.5A91A148D1@mail.sources.org> cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Documentation of big "mail systems"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Vlad GALU List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 21:50:09 -0000 On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 23:20:51 +0200, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > I'm currently writing a proposal for a webmail service for, say, 50 > 000 to 500 000 users. I'm looking for description of existing "big > mail" systems, using technologies like scalemail > (http://scalemail.sourceforge.net/), specially with an emphasis on the > storage subsystem for the servers (my weak point, I don't really have > enough experience with SAN, NAS, and so on). > > Of course, with a FreeBSD (and free software) bias :-) > > I do not need general advice (such as "Postfix rules, Exim sucks" or > "Maildirs are faster") but actual description of existing and running > systems. Googling seems inefficient for that purpose and I presume > that many interesting papers are only in closed and paying conference > proceedings :-( > I've been running a system with ~2,500,000 e-mail accounts for about two years. It uses qmail and a specially crafted version of vpopmail. We modified vpopmail so it uses the sqlrelay API instead of the original one, so we could proxy all the database requests through a single connection. The Maildirs are stored on another machine, with fast fibrechannel disks. For POP/IMAP we use Courier-IMAP, which uses vpopmail as a storage backend. The system is perfectly scalable. Our number of users has known a very abrupt growth in the last 7-8 months, but it behaved really nice. Database machines can be indefinitely upgraded. Storage devices can be added. As a personal notice, disk I/O would be more efficient with Postfix, but we chose vpopmail's management flexibility instead. We extended its API and rewrote the information it kept about every account (some user prefs among other stuff). The relay machines use qmqp to relay mails in a round-robin fashion to four machines that act as outgoing default gateways, thus dramatically improving the performance on the storing machines. I can't see this going down in less than 7-8 years. P.S. the vpopmail backend is PostgreSQL. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- If it's there, and you can see it, it's real. If it's not there, and you can see it, it's virtual. If it's there, and you can't see it, it's transparent. If it's not there, and you can't see it, you erased it. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 00:38:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3801B16A4CE for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 00:38:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gak.upnix.net (gak.upnix.net [216.194.85.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFC6743D3F for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 00:38:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@upnix.com) Received: from bawls.upnix.net ([209.82.103.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by gak.upnix.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9D0cvWP002117 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 18:38:57 -0600 (MDT) From: Chris Cameron Organization: UpNIX Internet To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 18:39:16 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20041012212051.5A91A148D1@mail.sources.org> In-Reply-To: <20041012212051.5A91A148D1@mail.sources.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200410121839.16513.chris@upnix.com> Subject: Re: Documentation of big "mail systems"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 00:38:59 -0000 http://www.gangofone.com/~npc/doc/mail_arch.html It's -old-, but I had it handy. On October 12, 2004 03:20 pm, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > I'm currently writing a proposal for a webmail service for, say, 50 > 000 to 500 000 users. I'm looking for description of existing "big > mail" systems, using technologies like scalemail > (http://scalemail.sourceforge.net/), specially with an emphasis on > the storage subsystem for the servers (my weak point, I don't really > have enough experience with SAN, NAS, and so on). > > Of course, with a FreeBSD (and free software) bias :-) > > I do not need general advice (such as "Postfix rules, Exim sucks" or > "Maildirs are faster") but actual description of existing and running > systems. Googling seems inefficient for that purpose and I presume > that many interesting papers are only in closed and paying conference > proceedings :-( From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 07:31:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0EC716A4CE for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 07:31:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rena.mysmt.net (rena.mysmt.net [82.150.137.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E03D443D45 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 07:31:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from erik@microcontroller.nl) Received: (qmail 79893 invoked by uid 1003); 13 Oct 2004 07:31:00 -0000 Received: from erik@microcontroller.nl by rena.mysmt.net by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.21 (clamdscan: 0.70-rc. spamassassin: 2.63. Clear:RC:1(213.84.50.76):. Processed in 0.057263 secs); 13 Oct 2004 07:31:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.14?) (microcon@microcontroller.nl@213.84.50.76) by 82-150-137-14.mysmt.net with SMTP; 13 Oct 2004 07:31:00 -0000 From: "Erik @ Microcontroller.nl" To: Stephane Bortzmeyer In-Reply-To: <20041012212051.5A91A148D1@mail.sources.org> References: <20041012212051.5A91A148D1@mail.sources.org> Message-Id: <1097652393.14810.2.camel@tessa.mysmt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:26:33 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Documentation of big "mail systems"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 07:31:05 -0000 maybe you should contact this matt@tnpi.biz man, he build huge systems as well.. -Erik. On Tue, 2004-10-12 at 23:20, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > I'm currently writing a proposal for a webmail service for, say, 50 > 000 to 500 000 users. I'm looking for description of existing "big > mail" systems, using technologies like scalemail > (http://scalemail.sourceforge.net/), specially with an emphasis on the > storage subsystem for the servers (my weak point, I don't really have > enough experience with SAN, NAS, and so on). > > Of course, with a FreeBSD (and free software) bias :-) > > I do not need general advice (such as "Postfix rules, Exim sucks" or > "Maildirs are faster") but actual description of existing and running > systems. Googling seems inefficient for that purpose and I presume > that many interesting papers are only in closed and paying conference > proceedings :-( > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Erik @ Microcontroller.nl From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 10:11:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F409516A4CE for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:11:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mutare.noc.clara.net (mutare.noc.clara.net [195.8.70.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC02743D41 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:11:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ollie@mutare.noc.clara.net) Received: from ollie by mutare.noc.clara.net with local (Exim 4.42) id 1CHg6T-0006hr-F6; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:11:29 +0100 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:11:29 +0100 From: Ollie Cook To: Stephane Bortzmeyer Message-ID: <20041013101129.GD12125@mutare.noc.clara.net> References: <20041012212051.5A91A148D1@mail.sources.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041012212051.5A91A148D1@mail.sources.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE i386 X-NCC-RegID: uk.claranet Sender: Ollie Cook cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Documentation of big "mail systems"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:11:39 -0000 On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 11:20:51PM +0200, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > systems. Googling seems inefficient for that purpose and I presume > that many interesting papers are only in closed and paying conference > proceedings :-( The following paper may be of use: http://www.nndg.york.ac.uk/staff/yann/lsm.ps Ollie -- Ollie Cook Systems Architect, Claranet UK ollie@uk.clara.net +44 20 7685 8065 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 18:05:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF5C216A4CF for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 18:05:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gvr.gvr.org (gvr-gw.gvr.org [80.126.103.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F91F43D45 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 18:05:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from guido@gvr.org) Received: by gvr.gvr.org (Postfix, from userid 657) id CFE4038; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:05:15 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:05:15 +0200 From: Guido van Rooij To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041013180515.GA65509@gvr.gvr.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Subject: intel asp 2150 X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 18:05:16 -0000 I cannot seem to install FBSD on this system. I flashed to bios version 14.3 (latest from Intel). But no matter what I try, install cdrom will boot after loading the kernel and printing the copyright notice like this: Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.3-BETA7 #0: Sat Oct 2 21:01:00 UTC 2004 root@wv1u.samsco.home:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled It happens with FBSD 4.8, 5.2, 5.3-beta7 (with and without acpi). When running a W2K install cd, things go fine... I tried a lot of different BIOS settings, but nothing seems to help. If there is anyone succesfully running FBSD on such a system, could he please mail me the kernel config, the BIOS settings and whatever was necessary to get it to run? -Guido From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 17:39:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9856D16A4CE for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 17:39:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from outmx005.isp.belgacom.be (outmx005.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.2.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD1AF43D5A for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 17:39:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jo@umask.net) Received: from outmx005.isp.belgacom.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) with ESMTP id i9EHdDhc010337 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 19:39:13 +0200 (envelope-from ) Received: from ernie.lan.net (118.48-200-80.adsl.skynet.be [80.200.48.118]) with ESMTP id i9EHd7eK010292 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 19:39:07 +0200 (envelope-from ) Received: from jgeraert by ernie.lan.net with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CI9ZD-0000Zi-B2 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 19:39:07 +0200 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 19:39:07 +0200 From: Jo Geraerts To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041014173907.GA2186@ernie.lan.net> References: <20041012212051.5A91A148D1@mail.sources.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041012212051.5A91A148D1@mail.sources.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040818i Sender: Jo Geraerts Subject: Re: Documentation of big "mail systems"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 17:39:16 -0000 hi, On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 11:20:51PM +0200, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > I'm currently writing a proposal for a webmail service for, say, 50 > 000 to 500 000 users. I'm looking for description of existing "big > mail" systems, using technologies like scalemail > (http://scalemail.sourceforge.net/), specially with an emphasis on the > storage subsystem for the servers (my weak point, I don't really have > enough experience with SAN, NAS, and so on). i would seriously consider a qmail-ldap system as backend. Especially the clustering feature is very nice. With this clustering you can simply use off-the-shelf hardware and balance the mailboxes over the mailstores ( as i call them.) a mail may enter the cluster at any system and it will be queued on the right system. qmail-ldap has also a password check for courier-imap which redirects the imap session to the right mailstore. so it behaves as a single system with lots of mailstorage but you don't need pricy nas/san systems. Another advantage is that it scales pretty good since you dont have a single point ( like a nas) where everything comes together. i've a mail setup with 1 MX server, 2 mailstores and a relay server which servers about 130 000 people with simple commodity hardware: dual p3, 1 gig mem and 2 IDE harddisks. The dual processor is a little bit oversized but we use the same server for everything. if you want advanced filtering and anti-spam features, put postfix/exim/... in front of the qmail-ldap cluster. ( qmail-scanner is so not done on large systems, since it requires a perl invocation per connection) As webmail i use squirrelmail, but i think i made the wrong choice. The problem with this setup is that it makes a imap connection for every pagerequest. If I had to redesign a new webmail system, i think i would use something that supports persistent imap connections ( some kind of servlet or zope application) best regards, jo -- /****************************************************************** * Geraerts Jo * Politics: * * jo@umask.net * Poly: many * * http://umask.net * Ticks: blood sucking parasites * ******************************************************************/ From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 20:50:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93AE716A4CE for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 20:50:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.powertech.no (smtp1.powertech.no [195.159.0.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD8043D39 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 20:50:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from frode@nordahl.net) Received: from [192.168.1.34] (ti211110a080-4065.bb.online.no [80.212.207.225]) by smtp1.powertech.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA9382E2; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 22:50:18 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <20041014173907.GA2186@ernie.lan.net> References: <20041012212051.5A91A148D1@mail.sources.org> <20041014173907.GA2186@ernie.lan.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Frode Nordahl Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 22:50:16 +0200 To: Jo Geraerts X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Documentation of big "mail systems"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 20:50:20 -0000 On Oct 14, 2004, at 19:39, Jo Geraerts wrote: > As webmail i use squirrelmail, but i think i made the wrong choice. The > problem with this setup is that it makes a imap connection for every > pagerequest. If I had to redesign a new webmail system, i think i would > use something that supports persistent imap connections ( some kind of > servlet or zope application) Have a look at /usr/ports/mail/up-imapproxy (http://www.imapproxy.org/), helps alot! Squirrelmail is also very CPU and memory hungry when opening large mailboxes, doing Thread sorts and such. One sollution to the problem is to use UW-IMAP's MBX format, as it is indexed and supports shared READ-WRITE access. No more problems with long logon times due to large mailboxes or locking! Mvh, Frode Nordahl > best regards, > > > jo > > -- > /****************************************************************** > * Geraerts Jo * Politics: * > * jo@umask.net * Poly: many * > * http://umask.net * Ticks: blood sucking parasites * > ******************************************************************/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 15 03:36:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46FC216A4CE for ; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 03:36:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.emediaone.net (orion.emediaone.net [203.208.226.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9378243D45 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 03:36:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jett@angdatingdaan.org) Received: from mail.emediaone.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.emediaone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97FDF4506E; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:38:57 +0800 (SGT) Received: from mail.angdatingdaan.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.emediaone.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 56C414504A; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:38:57 +0800 (SGT) Received: from devnull.chikka.com ([203.190.72.108]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user jett@angdatingdaan.org) by mail.angdatingdaan.org with HTTP; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:38:57 +0800 (SGT) Message-ID: <34513.203.190.72.108.1097811537.squirrel@mail.angdatingdaan.org> In-Reply-To: <20041014173907.GA2186@ernie.lan.net> References: <20041012212051.5A91A148D1@mail.sources.org> <20041014173907.GA2186@ernie.lan.net> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:38:57 +0800 (SGT) From: "Jett Tayer" To: "Jo Geraerts" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Documentation of big "mail systems"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 03:36:24 -0000 well can u share us some howtos similar to your setup? > > hi, > > > On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 11:20:51PM +0200, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: >> I'm currently writing a proposal for a webmail service for, say, 50 >> 000 to 500 000 users. I'm looking for description of existing "big >> mail" systems, using technologies like scalemail >> (http://scalemail.sourceforge.net/), specially with an emphasis on the >> storage subsystem for the servers (my weak point, I don't really have >> enough experience with SAN, NAS, and so on). > > i would seriously consider a qmail-ldap system as backend. Especially the > clustering feature is very nice. With this clustering you can simply use > off-the-shelf hardware and balance the mailboxes over the mailstores ( > as i call them.) From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 17:08:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D97E16A4CE for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 17:08:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from plesk02.europronet.ba (plesk02.europronet.ba [80.65.162.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA8A43D3F for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 17:08:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alen@smartnet.ba) Received: (qmail 15590 invoked by uid 2520); 14 Oct 2004 14:14:48 -0000 Received: from alen@smartnet.ba by plesk.epn.ba by uid 2020 with qmail-scanner-1.22st (clamdscan: 0.75.1 perlscan: ???. Clear:RC:1(80.65.162.66):. Processed in 0.084421 secs); 14 Oct 2004 14:14:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO alens1) (80.65.162.66) by 24.u7.da.ru with SMTP; 14 Oct 2004 14:14:48 -0000 Message-ID: <1d0a01c4b1f8$fe1aee00$fb00a8c0@alens1> From: "Alen Sarkinovic" To: Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 16:20:44 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 12:20:33 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: pppoed error message? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 17:08:36 -0000 Anyone solve this problem? From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 15 17:25:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA08B16A4E4 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:25:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from elephant.cnchost.com (elephant.cnchost.com [207.155.252.97]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7294243D1D for ; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:25:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kgupta@edgefocus.com) Received: from karang (ws130.advancel.com [207.88.142.131] (may be forged)) by elephant.cnchost.com id NAA05940; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 13:25:10 -0400 (EDT) [ConcentricHost SMTP Relay 1.17] Errors-To: Message-ID: <000e01c4b2dd$c6dc7630$3e2aa8c0@edgefocus.com> From: "Karan Gupta" To: Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:38:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: forwarding X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:25:14 -0000 Hey fBSD gurus, Heres what im looking for=20 If i goto the following link http://router_ext_ip:2020 it takes me to = a box that can be accessed on the internal network (NAT) = http:/192.168.42.4/abc.html Im using FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE, with natd & an IPFW firewall. thnx Karan Gupta (949) 202-9797 kgupta@edgefocus.com EdgeFocus Inc 17981 Skypark Cr. Suite A Irvine CA 92614 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 15 17:33:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D341E16A4CF for ; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:33:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail2.numachi.com (mail2.numachi.com [198.175.254.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D92EC43D31 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:33:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reichert@numachi.com) Received: (qmail 29819 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2004 17:33:43 -0000 Received: from natto.numachi.com (198.175.254.216) by mail2.numachi.com with SMTP; 15 Oct 2004 17:33:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 21212 invoked by uid 1001); 15 Oct 2004 17:33:42 -0000 Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 13:33:42 -0400 From: Brian Reichert To: Karan Gupta Message-ID: <20041015173342.GC278@numachi.com> References: <000e01c4b2dd$c6dc7630$3e2aa8c0@edgefocus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000e01c4b2dd$c6dc7630$3e2aa8c0@edgefocus.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: forwarding X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:33:44 -0000 On Fri, Oct 15, 2004 at 10:38:21AM -0700, Karan Gupta wrote: > Hey fBSD gurus, > Heres what im looking for > If i goto the following link http://router_ext_ip:2020 it takes me to a box that can be accessed on the internal network (NAT) http:/192.168.42.4/abc.html > Im using FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE, with natd & an IPFW firewall. You want to do more than remap hosts/ports, you want URLs to be re-written. You'll need something operating at a higher layer then ipfw; consider squid or an apache httpd accelerator to remap URLs around. Good luck... > thnx > Karan Gupta > (949) 202-9797 > kgupta@edgefocus.com > EdgeFocus Inc > 17981 Skypark Cr. Suite A > Irvine CA 92614 -- Brian Reichert 37 Crystal Ave. #303 Daytime number: (603) 434-6842 Derry NH 03038-1713 USA BSD admin/developer at large From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 15 17:48:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31F6816A4CE for ; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:48:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vineyard.net (k1.vineyard.net [204.17.195.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D78FE43D5D for ; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:48:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ericx_lists@vineyard.net) Received: from localhost (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by vineyard.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70774915A3 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 13:48:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vineyard.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (king1.vineyard.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 83814-01-3 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 13:48:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vineyard.net (cheesenip.vineyard.net [204.17.195.113]) by vineyard.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 073B291574 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 13:48:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <41700D64.4010300@vineyard.net> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 13:48:20 -0400 From: "Eric W. Bates" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (X11/20040208) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-king1 at Vineyard.NET Subject: Gracefully stopping jailed processes X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:48:23 -0000 I've got a copy of mysql running in a FreeBSD 5.2 jail and I would like to close it gracefully rather than just have the jail itself die. Is there a way via the standard rc.subr jail routine to hook a script to run just before the kill is sent to the jail? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 16 10:54:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA2B916A4CE for ; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 10:54:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cell.sick.ru (cell.sick.ru [217.72.144.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D48C743D39 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 10:54:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from glebius@freebsd.org) Received: from cell.sick.ru (glebius@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cell.sick.ru (8.12.11/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i9GAsJvT060772 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 14:54:20 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from glebius@freebsd.org) Received: (from glebius@localhost) by cell.sick.ru (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i9GAsJwj060771; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 14:54:19 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from glebius@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: cell.sick.ru: glebius set sender to glebius@freebsd.org using -f Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 14:54:19 +0400 From: Gleb Smirnoff To: Alen Sarkinovic Message-ID: <20041016105419.GA60738@cell.sick.ru> References: <1d0a01c4b1f8$fe1aee00$fb00a8c0@alens1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1d0a01c4b1f8$fe1aee00$fb00a8c0@alens1> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pppoed error message? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 10:54:22 -0000 On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 04:20:44PM +0200, Alen Sarkinovic wrote: A> Anyone solve this problem? Which problem? %) -- Totus tuus, Glebius. GLEBIUS-RIPN GLEB-RIPE