From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 05:12:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00AC216A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 05:12:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxsf13.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf13.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A98F43D1F for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 05:12:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thunderlove@charter.net) Received: from mxip08.cluster1.charter.net (mxip08a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.138])i7M5Ch2p028936 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 01:12:43 -0400 Received: from ts46-02-qdr3280.mdfrd.or.charter.com (HELO [192.168.1.101]) (68.116.58.217) by mxip08.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 22 Aug 2004 01:12:42 -0400 X-Ironport-AV: i="3.84,99,1091419200"; d="scan'208"; a="224267092:sNHT13119928" Message-ID: <41282B49.7080802@charter.net> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 22:12:41 -0700 From: Geoff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040821 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org" References: <41276EEE.D102A5AC@holley.uklinux.net> <4127995E.30906@charter.net> <20040822012404.385.qmail@gawab.com> In-Reply-To: <20040822012404.385.qmail@gawab.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Emon Subject: Re: File manager X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org" List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 05:12:45 -0000 Emon wrote: > Hello everyone > > Hello everone, I am a newbie, I have just installed > FreeBSD(4.10)), and would appreciate some guidance. > > First of all, is there any user friendly File Manager Like > Midnight Commander(or anything else)? > > Second, I did creat a user, but I didn't know which group to put > it in, so I kept that field empty, now if I try to su to root, > it say that I am not in the right goup(wheel). what does it > mean? How do I solve this? > > Thanks > misc/mc is midnight commander -- I'm not running 4.1, so I cannot with certainty it's available to you, but I would presume so. pkg_add -r mc should work. Second, 'wheel' -- its a security feature. check out the FAQs under 'system administration'. (on the freebsd homepage) To add a user to the group, the easiest way is to simply edit '/etc/group' directly: From: wheel:*:0:root To: wheel:*:0:root,emon (or whatever your user name is) The change will take effect next time you log in as 'emon' Lastly, when posting to this list, send the email to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org -- otherwise, the list doesn't see it! Geoff From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 07:08:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6390816A4CE; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 07:08:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [66.154.97.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E7043D48; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 07:08:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5420E587D; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 00:10:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nezlok.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04825-03; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 00:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 625FA587A; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 00:10:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20040822071002.625FA587A@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 00:10:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at unixathome.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2004-08-01 - 2004-08-21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 07:08:54 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 01:48:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2313016A4CE for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 01:48:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gawab.com (v2.gawab.com [204.97.230.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C7A5E43D46 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 01:48:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jadukor@gawab.com) Received: (qmail 25707 invoked by uid 1004); 23 Aug 2004 01:48:16 -0000 Message-ID: <20040823014816.25706.qmail@gawab.com> References: <41276EEE.D102A5AC@holley.uklinux.net> <4127995E.30906@charter.net> <20040822012404.385.qmail@gawab.com> <41282B49.7080802@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <41282B49.7080802@charter.net> Received: from 69.88.7.186 by gawab.com with HTTP; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 01:48:15 GMT From: "Emon" To: "freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org" Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 01:48:15 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [69.88.7.186] Subject: Re: File manager X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 01:48:17 -0000 Thanks everyone It was a pleasure asking for assistance form you guys. Thanks again From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 20:57:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B5CB16A4CE for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 20:57:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.176]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B31343D5E for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 20:57:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@xtsy.de) Received: from [212.227.126.179] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1BzLsD-00074r-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:57:01 +0200 Received: from [80.140.224.250] (helo=work) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1BzLsC-0007Zt-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:57:00 +0200 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:48:55 +0200 From: "Marcel.lautenbach" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.04.7) Business Organization: XTSY X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <116429367.20040823224855@xtsy.de> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:09d3dc163080560c6eb0588e74d6b604 Subject: xdm an tty's X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Marcel.lautenbach" List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 20:57:02 -0000 Hi folks, well, I just started up with FreeBSD. Otherwise I would not be writing to this group :-) So, up to date I am rather limited in my knowldege :-) And here is my first problem: I have set up a running and functional FreeBSD 4.10 System in an VMware enviroment. Well, I came to a pioint where it is said you could autostart xdm by eddeting the /etc/ttys for tty8 and set on the xdm -daemon. So far, so good. Now, I start the system and automacially xdm starts up. I just have to login and can run my favourite Desktop, e.g. KDE. Well, but how can I switch in xdm to another tty. Generally I can use the F-Keys in combination with ALT to switch. But when I am in xdm and I do not want to login-in via xdm and start KDE, how can I swith. When I us ALT-F2 for instance I don't get tty1. Al it says ist that my login is not correct after the second try, because I am in the user/password fields. Can someone helmp me with this matter? I would defenitely appreciate it :-) -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Marcel.lautenbach mailto:freebsd@xtsy.de From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 21:05:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1243A16A4CF for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 21:05:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9225D43D58 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 21:05:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:01:28 -0500 Message-ID: <412A5BFC.5040506@daleco.biz> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:05:00 -0500 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040712 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Marcel.lautenbach" References: <116429367.20040823224855@xtsy.de> In-Reply-To: <116429367.20040823224855@xtsy.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Aug 2004 21:01:29.0182 (UTC) FILETIME=[5C49DFE0:01C48954] cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xdm an tty's X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 21:05:04 -0000 Marcel.lautenbach wrote: >Hi folks, > >well, I just started up with FreeBSD. Otherwise I would not be writing >to this group :-) > >So, up to date I am rather limited in my knowldege :-) > >And here is my first problem: I have set up a running and functional >FreeBSD 4.10 System in an VMware enviroment. > >Well, I came to a pioint where it is said you could autostart xdm by >eddeting the /etc/ttys for tty8 and set on the xdm -daemon. > >So far, so good. Now, I start the system and automacially xdm starts >up. I just have to login and can run my favourite Desktop, e.g. KDE. > >Well, but how can I switch in xdm to another tty. Generally I can use >the F-Keys in combination with ALT to switch. But when I am in xdm and I do not want to >login-in via xdm and start KDE, how can I swith. When I us ALT-F2 for >instance I don't get tty1. Al it says ist that my login is not correct >after the second try, because I am in the user/password fields. Can someone helmp me with this matter? >I would defenitely appreciate it :-) > > > Well, I start gdm on ttyv0; Using CTL-ALT-F(x) gets me to the other virtual consoles. CTL-ALT-F9 gets me back to X. YMMV, but I HTH, Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 21:28:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 015E116A4CE for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 21:28:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A0A843D31 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 21:28:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@xtsy.de) Received: from [212.227.126.206] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1BzMMU-00071H-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 23:28:18 +0200 Received: from [80.140.224.250] (helo=work) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1BzMMU-0004Ad-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 23:28:18 +0200 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 23:19:23 +0200 From: "Marcel.lautenbach" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.04.7) Business Organization: XTSY X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1203339466.20040823231923@xtsy.de> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <412A5BFC.5040506@daleco.biz> References: <116429367.20040823224855@xtsy.de> <412A5BFC.5040506@daleco.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:09d3dc163080560c6eb0588e74d6b604 Subject: Re: xdm an tty's X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Marcel.lautenbach" List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 21:28:20 -0000 Guten Tag Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P., am Montag, 23. August 2004 um 23:05 schrieben Sie: KDKDSP> Marcel.lautenbach wrote: >>Hi folks, >> >>well, I just started up with FreeBSD. Otherwise I would not be writing >>to this group :-) >> >>So, up to date I am rather limited in my knowldege :-) >> >>And here is my first problem: I have set up a running and functional >>FreeBSD 4.10 System in an VMware enviroment. >> >>Well, I came to a pioint where it is said you could autostart xdm by >>eddeting the /etc/ttys for tty8 and set on the xdm -daemon. >> >>So far, so good. Now, I start the system and automacially xdm starts >>up. I just have to login and can run my favourite Desktop, e.g. KDE. >> >>Well, but how can I switch in xdm to another tty. Generally I can use >>the F-Keys in combination with ALT to switch. But when I am in xdm and I do not want to >>login-in via xdm and start KDE, how can I swith. When I us ALT-F2 for >>instance I don't get tty1. Al it says ist that my login is not correct >>after the second try, because I am in the user/password fields. >>Can someone helmp me with this matter? >>I would defenitely appreciate it :-) >> >> >> KDKDSP> Well, I start gdm on ttyv0; Using CTL-ALT-F(x) gets KDKDSP> me to the other virtual consoles. CTL-ALT-F9 gets KDKDSP> me back to X. YMMV, but I HTH, KDKDSP> Kevin Kinsey KDKDSP> DaleCo, S.P. Hi folks, I have installed FreeBSD 4.9 yesterday, in an vmware enviroment. So far, everything works fine, but I don't get the x-server running. I've configured everything so far. But there seem to be some problems with the videocard. standard vga is not accepted by FreeBSD included vmware drivers. I tried a litte around, but it won't work. On my other, "real" computer I had no difficulties runnig the x-server and kde for instance. So, is there anyone who maybe has some experience with this matter? I would really appreciate some help. Thanks in andvance Marcel -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Marcel.lautenbach mailto:freebsd@xtsy.de From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 22:01:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA2316A4F4 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:01:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E28E643D4C for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:01:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shadowman00x@videotron.ca) Received: from iceonfire85 ([24.37.36.210]) by VL-MO-MR001.ip.videotron.ca (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003)) with SMTP id <0I2X000BH6ES53@VL-MO-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 17:59:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 17:59:25 -0400 From: Chiheb Djabri To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-id: <00d501c4895c$76c16980$d2242518@iceonfire85> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Partitionning Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:01:06 -0000 Hello I am New To Freebsd. I tried to create partitions for Freebsd using FDISK but It does not detect my disk correctly. The thing is I have a 37 Gb of Hard Drive; 5 Gb are allocated for Windows 98 (FAT32), ~23,5Gb for Windows XP (NTFS) and I have the rest of Disk partitionioned with Gentoo. I thought to use this partitions for Freesbd. That's what appears on Fdisk screen: Disk name:ad0 DISK Geometry: 4865 cyls/255heads/63 sectors= 78156225 sectors (38162 MB) Offset Size (ST) End Name PType Desc subty Flags 0 63 63 - 12 unused 0 63 10249407 10249469 ad0s1 7 fat 11 10249470 67890690 78140159 ad0s2 4 extended DOS, LBA 15 78140160 25200 78165359 - 12 unused 0 Besides I received a message as ad0 geometry is incorrect Can somebody help me please? Thanks From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 00:04:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F195A16A4CE for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 00:04:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90AC943D6B for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 00:04:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@xtsy.de) Received: from [212.227.126.206] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1BzOnS-0000Vf-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 02:04:18 +0200 Received: from [80.140.224.250] (helo=work) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1BzOnS-0003Ad-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 02:04:18 +0200 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 02:04:50 +0200 From: "Marcel.lautenbach" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.04.7) Business Organization: XTSY X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <696104610.20040824020450@xtsy.de> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <412A665A.3070006@daleco.biz> References: <116429367.20040823224855@xtsy.de> <412A5BFC.5040506@daleco.biz> <1203339466.20040823231923@xtsy.de> <412A665A.3070006@daleco.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:09d3dc163080560c6eb0588e74d6b604 Subject: Re: xdm an tty's X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Marcel.lautenbach" List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 00:04:20 -0000 Guten Tag Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P., am Montag, 23. August 2004 um 23:49 schrieben Sie: KDKDSP> Marcel.lautenbach wrote: >>Hi folks, >> >>I have installed FreeBSD 4.9 yesterday, in an vmware enviroment. So >>far, everything works fine, but I don't get the x-server running. I've >>configured everything so far. But there seem to be some problems with the >>videocard. standard vga is not accepted by FreeBSD included vmware >>drivers. I tried a litte around, but it won't work. On my other, >>"real" computer I had no difficulties runnig the x-server and kde for >>instance. >> >>So, is there anyone who maybe has some experience with this matter? >> >>I would really appreciate some help. >> >>Thanks in andvance >> >>Marcel >> >> KDKDSP> Hi again, Marcel. KDKDSP> I have no experience with vmware. I imagine that your KDKDSP> best option for help from "experts" would be to send KDKDSP> the message above, with a more descriptive title (X KDKDSP> server won't work with vmware? or something like that) KDKDSP> to questions@freebsd.org. KDKDSP> Technically, the "newbies@" list isn't for technical help, KDKDSP> and not many people read it anyway. KDKDSP> KDK Hi Kevin, well, then I will try your advice. Thank's alot for your help :-) -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Marcel.lautenbach mailto:freebsd@xtsy.de From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 01:31:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 004C216A4CE for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 01:31:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fidel.freesurf.fr (fidel.freesurf.fr [212.43.206.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D38043D41 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 01:31:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ogautherot@freesurf.fr) Received: from [62.240.248.116] (62-240-248-116.adsl.freesurf.fr [62.240.248.116]) by fidel.freesurf.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B7C2A6BA1; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 03:31:11 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <412A9A5A.5000207@freesurf.fr> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 03:31:06 +0200 From: Olivier Gautherot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040812 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chiheb Djabri References: <00d501c4895c$76c16980$d2242518@iceonfire85> In-Reply-To: <00d501c4895c$76c16980$d2242518@iceonfire85> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Partitionning Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 01:31:14 -0000 Hi Chiheb! Chiheb Djabri wrote: >Hello > >I am New To Freebsd. I tried to create partitions for Freebsd using FDISK but It does not detect my disk correctly. The thing is I have a 37 Gb of Hard Drive; 5 Gb are allocated for Windows 98 (FAT32), ~23,5Gb for Windows XP (NTFS) and I have the rest of Disk partitionioned with Gentoo. I thought to use this partitions for Freesbd. That's what appears on Fdisk screen: > >Disk name:ad0 >DISK Geometry: 4865 cyls/255heads/63 sectors= 78156225 sectors (38162 MB) > > >Offset Size (ST) End Name PType Desc subty Flags >0 63 63 - 12 unused 0 >63 10249407 10249469 ad0s1 7 fat 11 >10249470 67890690 78140159 ad0s2 4 extended DOS, LBA 15 >78140160 25200 78165359 - 12 unused 0 > >Besides I received a message as ad0 geometry is incorrect >Can somebody help me please? > > I've already come across "incorrect" partitioning with the Linux fdisk. It seems to allocate half cyclinders for whatever reason. I would recommend to rerun the partitioning using the FreeBSD installation program. Note that, until the installation is committed, the disk is not modified so no data is lost. Hope it helps Olivier From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 06:21:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E5016A4CE for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 06:21:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay.mplik.ru (relay.mplik.ru [212.23.64.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7CB1843D31 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 06:21:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alexxisr@mail.ru) Received: from relay.mplik.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by d162.mplik.ru (Postfix) with SMTP id 53EAACCC89; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 12:21:41 +0600 (YEKST) Received: from compy.mydom (34-ats73-as2.dialup.mplik.ru [213.140.126.34]) by relay.mplik.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A879CCBA4; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 12:18:09 +0600 (YEKST) Received: from alexx (helo=localhost) by compy.mydom with local-esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BzUXS-0004HU-En; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 12:12:10 +0600 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 12:12:10 +0600 (YEKST) From: =?koi8-r?B?8s/T08nIyc4g4czFy9PFyg==?= To: Olivier Gautherot In-Reply-To: <412A9A5A.5000207@freesurf.fr> Message-ID: <20040824120847.T16436@compy.mydom> References: <00d501c4895c$76c16980$d2242518@iceonfire85> <412A9A5A.5000207@freesurf.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.500009, version=0.12.3 X-Sagator-Scanner: 0.4.9-0rc1; drop(clamd()) deliver(BogoFilter()) cc: Chiheb Djabri cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Partitionning Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 06:21:45 -0000 I read somewhere that the problem is in improper mode (CHS/LBA). But when i switch it in BIOS from auto, OS can`t even boot up. And how to say FreeBSD proper mode i don`t know. --------------------------------------- Bye Alexis Rossikhin alexxisr@mail.ru --------------------------------------- On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, Olivier Gautherot wrote: > Hi Chiheb! > > Chiheb Djabri wrote: > > >Hello > > > >I am New To Freebsd. I tried to create partitions for Freebsd using FDISK but It does not detect my disk correctly. The thing is I have a 37 Gb of Hard Drive; 5 Gb are allocated for Windows 98 (FAT32), ~23,5Gb for Windows XP (NTFS) and I have the rest of Disk partitionioned with Gentoo. I thought to use this partitions for Freesbd. That's what appears on Fdisk screen: > > > >Disk name:ad0 > >DISK Geometry: 4865 cyls/255heads/63 sectors= 78156225 sectors (38162 MB) > > > > > >Offset Size (ST) End Name PType Desc subty Flags > >0 63 63 - 12 unused 0 > >63 10249407 10249469 ad0s1 7 fat 11 > >10249470 67890690 78140159 ad0s2 4 extended DOS, LBA 15 > >78140160 25200 78165359 - 12 unused 0 > > > >Besides I received a message as ad0 geometry is incorrect > >Can somebody help me please? > > > > > > I've already come across "incorrect" partitioning with the Linux fdisk. > It seems to allocate half cyclinders for whatever reason. > I would recommend to rerun the partitioning using the FreeBSD > installation program. Note that, until the installation is committed, > the disk is not modified so no data is lost. > > Hope it helps > Olivier > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 00:30:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DF9916A4CE for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 00:30:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web15607.mail.cnb.yahoo.com (web15607.mail.cnb.yahoo.com [202.165.102.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 165EA43D39 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 00:30:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yeweimailbox-maillist@yahoo.com.cn) Message-ID: <20040824003020.44002.qmail@web15607.mail.cnb.yahoo.com> Received: from [218.4.149.25] by web15607.mail.cnb.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 08:30:20 CST Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 08:30:20 +0800 (CST) From: To: "Marcel.lautenbach" , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <696104610.20040824020450@xtsy.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 12:13:31 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: xdm an tty's X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: yeweimailbox-maillist@yahoo.com.cn List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 00:30:23 -0000 Hi Marcel, I think you should install the VMware tool for FreeBSD, then config the X-Server by /stand/systall, and select the video card "VMWare ...". It's video card type for VMWare. Hope this help. Ye Wei "Marcel.lautenbach" wrote: Guten Tag Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P., am Montag, 23. August 2004 um 23:49 schrieben Sie: KDKDSP> Marcel.lautenbach wrote: >>Hi folks, >> >>I have installed FreeBSD 4.9 yesterday, in an vmware enviroment. So >>far, everything works fine, but I don't get the x-server running. I've >>configured everything so far. But there seem to be some problems with the >>videocard. standard vga is not accepted by FreeBSD included vmware >>drivers. I tried a litte around, but it won't work. On my other, >>"real" computer I had no difficulties runnig the x-server and kde for >>instance. >> >>So, is there anyone who maybe has some experience with this matter? >> >>I would really appreciate some help. >> >>Thanks in andvance >> >>Marcel >> >> KDKDSP> Hi again, Marcel. KDKDSP> I have no experience with vmware. I imagine that your KDKDSP> best option for help from "experts" would be to send KDKDSP> the message above, with a more descriptive title (X KDKDSP> server won't work with vmware? or something like that) KDKDSP> to questions@freebsd.org. KDKDSP> Technically, the "newbies@" list isn't for technical help, KDKDSP> and not many people read it anyway. KDKDSP> KDK Hi Kevin, well, then I will try your advice. Thank's alot for your help :-) -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Marcel.lautenbach mailto:freebsd@xtsy.de _______________________________________________ freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Regards, Ye Wei --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? 150ÍòÇúMP3·è¿ñËÑ£¬´øÄú´³ÈëÒôÀÖµîÌà ÃÀÅ®Ã÷ÐÇÓ¦Óо¡ÓУ¬ËѱéÃÀͼ¡¢ÑÞͼºÍ¿áͼ 1G¾ÍÊÇ1000Õ×£¬ÑÅ»¢µçÓÊ×ÔÖúÀ©ÈÝ£¡ From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 00:33:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E85716A4CE for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 00:33:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web15604.mail.cnb.yahoo.com (web15604.mail.cnb.yahoo.com [202.165.102.58]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8DD8943D1D for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 00:33:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yeweimailbox-maillist@yahoo.com.cn) Message-ID: <20040824003324.46340.qmail@web15604.mail.cnb.yahoo.com> Received: from [218.4.149.25] by web15604.mail.cnb.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 08:33:24 CST Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 08:33:24 +0800 (CST) From: To: Chiheb Djabri , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <00d501c4895c$76c16980$d2242518@iceonfire85> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 12:13:31 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: Partitionning Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: yeweimailbox-maillist@yahoo.com.cn List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 00:33:26 -0000 Hi, I have the some question:) I think you can safely skip these messge.:) Ye Wei Chiheb Djabri wrote: Hello I am New To Freebsd. I tried to create partitions for Freebsd using FDISK but It does not detect my disk correctly. The thing is I have a 37 Gb of Hard Drive; 5 Gb are allocated for Windows 98 (FAT32), ~23,5Gb for Windows XP (NTFS) and I have the rest of Disk partitionioned with Gentoo. I thought to use this partitions for Freesbd. That's what appears on Fdisk screen: Disk name:ad0 DISK Geometry: 4865 cyls/255heads/63 sectors= 78156225 sectors (38162 MB) Offset Size (ST) End Name PType Desc subty Flags 0 63 63 - 12 unused 0 63 10249407 10249469 ad0s1 7 fat 11 10249470 67890690 78140159 ad0s2 4 extended DOS, LBA 15 78140160 25200 78165359 - 12 unused 0 Besides I received a message as ad0 geometry is incorrect Can somebody help me please? 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(v2.04.7) Business Organization: XTSY X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <31223192.20040825185555@xtsy.de> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:09d3dc163080560c6eb0588e74d6b604 Subject: where is my pipe :-( X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Marcel.lautenbach" List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 16:55:22 -0000 hi folks, well, first of all, i got my first problem solved. changing the hot-keys in vmware gave me the ability to switch with CRT-ALT-F(x) between my virtual display, except when i am in an xdm session. but now i have something strange again. i have my kde-desktop running and i am in an xterm or konsole session. well, trying s.th. like printenv | sort didn't work. well, technically it worked, but i don't get my "|" signe typed in. when i change to my bare console on tt2 for instance i have not problems typing in the command above. but typing a | in a window running xterm or konsole within the k-desktop didn't work. actually it seems that my <>| key does not function. but, i have changed my keyboard-layout in an xfree-config progress and even in kde, but i don't get it :-( maybe s.o. can help? for furhter information: i am using a german keyboard layout. thanks Marcel -- mailto:freebsd@xtsy.de From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 19:58:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F0E216A4CE for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:58:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20DF443D69 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:58:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@xtsy.de) Received: from [212.227.126.209] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1C03uM-0007Q2-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 21:58:10 +0200 Received: from [80.140.244.242] (helo=WORK) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1C03uM-0002sb-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 21:58:10 +0200 Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 21:58:44 +0200 From: "Marcel.lautenbach" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.04.7) Business Organization: XTSY X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <801213900.20040825215844@xtsy.de> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:09d3dc163080560c6eb0588e74d6b604 Subject: changing the shell and editor X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Marcel.lautenbach" List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:58:11 -0000 hi again, well, i've tried a bit playin with the /etc/master.passwd, adduser, vipw an so on. now i use the bash shell. but, i am not able to change my enviroment variables anymore. trying "set EDITOR emacs" did not work. when ich echo my editor variable, it is empty. though i have changed my shell back to csh in the /etc/master.password file, when i log on i still use the bash. rebooting the system or kill -1 1 didn't do any good. i am getting confused now a bit. acually changes in the master.passwd file should take effect in any case, shouldn't they? pleas help. mailto:freebsd@xtsy.de From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 01:01:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBEFA16A4CE for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 01:01:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay10-f21.bay10.hotmail.com [64.4.37.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D086143D54 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 01:01:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sfx440@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 18:01:39 -0700 Received: from 200.68.145.94 by by10fd.bay10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 01:01:39 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.68.145.94] X-Originating-Email: [sfx440@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sfx440@hotmail.com From: =?iso-8859-1?B?vyA/?= To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 20:01:39 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Aug 2004 01:01:39.0762 (UTC) FILETIME=[3E7D6120:01C48B08] Subject: Incorrect Super block X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 01:01:40 -0000 Hi: Im a newbie using FreeBSD, i have installed it and now im am running a small samba server to lear to use it. i have two hard disk, one with freebsd and some free space an one with debian linux in an ext2 partition. I tried to mount the linux partition but i cant, the error mensage is "incorrect super block", im usig the command "mount /dev/ad1s3 /mnt". Im using freebsd 5.2.1. How can i solve this? I want to add the free space in the disk where freebsd is installed but the fdisk show an error, i read the manual but i dont know what to do. sorry im not an native english speaker, excuse me. Hablo español si hay alguien que me ayude gracias. Dak. _________________________________________________________________ Charla con tus amigos en línea mediante MSN Messenger: http://messenger.latam.msn.com/ From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 02:58:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A89E16A4CE for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 02:58:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web52908.mail.yahoo.com (web52908.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7F59E43D31 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 02:58:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eduhuertas@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20040826025813.50606.qmail@web52908.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.230.149.4] by web52908.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 21:58:13 CDT Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 21:58:13 -0500 (CDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Eduardo=20Huertas?= To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Incorrect Super block X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 02:58:15 -0000 --- ¿ ? escribió: > Hi: > > Im a newbie using FreeBSD, i have installed it and > now im am running a small > samba server to lear to use it. i have two hard > disk, one with freebsd and > some free space an one with debian linux in an ext2 > partition. I tried to > mount the linux partition but i cant, the error > mensage is "incorrect super > block", im usig the command "mount /dev/ad1s3 /mnt". > Im using freebsd 5.2.1. > How can i solve this? > > I want to add the free space in the disk where > freebsd is installed but the > fdisk show an error, i read the manual but i dont > know what to do. > > sorry im not an native english speaker, excuse me. > Hablo español si hay alguien que me ayude gracias. > > Dak. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Charla con tus amigos en línea mediante MSN > Messenger: > http://messenger.latam.msn.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hola Dak Primero que todo, esta lista no es para preguntas técnicas. Debes utilizar freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Luego, el kernel generic de freebsd no incluye la opción del file system ext2fs, por lo que debes generar un nuevo kernel con la opción: option ext2fs Al tener el nuevo kernel debes reiniciar tu sistema y luego intentar montar: mount_ext2fs /dev/ad1s3 /mnt Si aún tienes problemas intenta en la lista que te mencioné arriba. -edu- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Información de Estados Unidos y América Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. Visítanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 06:21:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94EBF16A4CE for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 06:21:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from poczta.wup-katowice.pl (wup.katowice.pik-net.pl [213.216.66.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D17243D3F for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 06:21:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from arek@wup-katowice.pl) Received: from poczta.wup-katowice.pl (localhost.wup-katowice.pl [127.0.0.1]) by poczta.wup-katowice.pl (Postfix) with SMTP id B30CC7E860; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 08:27:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [213.216.67.82] (arek.wup-katowice.pl [213.216.67.82]) by poczta.wup-katowice.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8617E85F; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 08:27:31 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <412D81A0.5080908@wup-katowice.pl> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 08:22:24 +0200 From: Arek Czereszewski User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.8a2) Gecko/20040714 X-Accept-Language: pl, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Marcel.lautenbach" References: <801213900.20040825215844@xtsy.de> In-Reply-To: <801213900.20040825215844@xtsy.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: changing the shell and editor X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: arek@wup-katowice.pl List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 06:21:36 -0000 Marcel.lautenbach wrote: > hi again, > > well, i've tried a bit playin with the /etc/master.passwd, adduser, > vipw an so on. > > now i use the bash shell. but, i am not able to change my enviroment > variables anymore. trying "set EDITOR emacs" did not work. when ich > echo my editor variable, it is empty. though i have changed my shell > back to csh in the /etc/master.password file, when i log on i still > use the bash. Command set VARIABLE work in t/csh In bash you must export env. variables. $ export EDITOR=ee But this work only in this session For permanent sets use ~/.bash_profile More info about bash you have in manual page. > rebooting the system or kill -1 1 didn't do any good. i am getting > confused now a bit. acually changes in the master.passwd file should > take effect in any case, shouldn't they? Regards Arek -- Arek Czereszewski | jid: aro(at)chrome.pl arek(at)wup-katowice.pl | gg: 1349941 "*nix is like a wigwam: no windows, no gates, apache inside." From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 06:21:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22FCA16A4E0 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 06:21:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gatecrasher.dyndns.org (pool-138-88-72-53.res.east.verizon.net [138.88.72.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A89343D68 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 06:21:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gewasiuk@gatecrasher.dyndns.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) i7Q6LiiH001681 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 02:21:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gewasiuk@gatecrasher.dyndns.org) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 02:21:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Gordon Ewasiuk To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <801213900.20040825215844@xtsy.de> Message-ID: <20040826021642.Q1668@gatecrasher.dyndns.org> References: <801213900.20040825215844@xtsy.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gatecrasher.dyndns.org Subject: Re: changing the shell and editor X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 06:21:48 -0000 On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, Marcel.lautenbach wrote: > well, i've tried a bit playin with the /etc/master.passwd, adduser, > vipw an so on. > > now i use the bash shell. but, i am not able to change my enviroment > variables anymore. trying "set EDITOR emacs" did not work. when ich > echo my editor variable, it is empty. though i have changed my shell > back to csh in the /etc/master.password file, when i log on i still > use the bash. > > rebooting the system or kill -1 1 didn't do any good. i am getting > confused now a bit. acually changes in the master.passwd file should > take effect in any case, shouldn't they? greetings marcel, try using 'pw' to change your shell: pw user mod $username -s /bin/$shell also, when i set variables in bash: [myserver]$ echo $SHELL /bin/bash [myserver]$ name=marcel [myserver]$ echo $name marcel regards, -gordon From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 06:33:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA8216A4CF for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 06:33:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96BB643D39 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 06:33:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Thu, 26 Aug 2004 01:29:54 -0500 Message-ID: <412D8435.3090101@daleco.biz> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 01:33:25 -0500 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040712 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: arek@wup-katowice.pl References: <801213900.20040825215844@xtsy.de> <412D81A0.5080908@wup-katowice.pl> In-Reply-To: <412D81A0.5080908@wup-katowice.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Aug 2004 06:29:55.0073 (UTC) FILETIME=[19CF5710:01C48B36] cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: changing the shell and editor X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 06:33:28 -0000 Arek Czereszewski wrote: > > Command set VARIABLE work in t/csh > Actually, isn't is "setenv": [/home/kadmin/c++/archive] [1:30] % setenv FOO BAR [/home/kadmin/c++/archive] [1:30] % echo $FOO BAR [/home/kadmin/c++/archive] [1:30] % set FOOD BAR [/home/kadmin/c++/archive][1:30] % echo $FOOD [/home/kadmin/c++/archive][1:30] Hmm, FOOD BAR ... I'm getting hungry ;-) KDK From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 06:44:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8792816A4CE for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 06:44:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AA1A43D6E for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 06:44:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gr4y.fox@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 75so125171rnl for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 23:44:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.102.54 with SMTP id z54mr2056516rnb; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 23:44:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.162.17 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 23:44:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 00:44:32 -0600 From: Cody Rioux To: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." In-Reply-To: <412D8435.3090101@daleco.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <801213900.20040825215844@xtsy.de> <412D81A0.5080908@wup-katowice.pl> <412D8435.3090101@daleco.biz> cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: changing the shell and editor X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Cody Rioux List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 06:44:33 -0000 It is the setenv command if you are using csh or one of its variants, however he said that he was using bash, so you would need to export the variable using the export command, I belive he already has the problem solved though. :) On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 01:33:25 -0500, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote: > Arek Czereszewski wrote: > > > > > Command set VARIABLE work in t/csh > > > > Actually, isn't is "setenv": > > [/home/kadmin/c++/archive] [1:30] > % setenv FOO BAR > > [/home/kadmin/c++/archive] [1:30] > % echo $FOO > BAR > > [/home/kadmin/c++/archive] [1:30] > % set FOOD BAR > > [/home/kadmin/c++/archive][1:30] > % echo $FOOD > > [/home/kadmin/c++/archive][1:30] > > Hmm, FOOD BAR ... > > I'm getting hungry ;-) > > KDK > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 08:30:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CC8B16A4CE for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 08:30:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fidel.freesurf.fr (fidel.freesurf.fr [212.43.206.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2A3843D49 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 08:30:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ogautherot@freesurf.fr) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (62-240-248-119.adsl.freesurf.fr [62.240.248.119]) by fidel.freesurf.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1347C2A4857; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:30:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <412D9FB1.5010603@freesurf.fr> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:30:41 +0200 From: Olivier Gautherot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040812 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Marcel.lautenbach" References: <801213900.20040825215844@xtsy.de> In-Reply-To: <801213900.20040825215844@xtsy.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: changing the shell and editor X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 08:30:49 -0000 Hi Marcel! >hi again, > >well, i've tried a bit playin with the /etc/master.passwd, adduser, >vipw an so on. > >now i use the bash shell. but, i am not able to change my enviroment >variables anymore. trying "set EDITOR emacs" did not work. when ich >echo my editor variable, it is empty. though i have changed my shell >back to csh in the /etc/master.password file, when i log on i still >use the bash. > >rebooting the system or kill -1 1 didn't do any good. i am getting >confused now a bit. acually changes in the master.passwd file should >take effect in any case, shouldn't they? > >pleas help. > > Just a dumb question: did you try logging out and back in? You need to do that to refresh for sure your environment (reboot not necessary: it's not Windows :-) ). Also, if you use the bash/csh command "set", it will affect only the current shell. Nested invocations won't be affected. Try "setenv" in csh or "export" in bash. Hope it helps Olivier From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 15:06:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA3516A4CF for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 15:06:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D68C43D31 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 15:06:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@xtsy.de) Received: from [212.227.126.206] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1C0LpA-0004cV-00; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:06:00 +0200 Received: from [80.140.244.242] (helo=WORK) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1C0LpA-0006nT-00; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:06:00 +0200 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:07:22 +0200 From: "Marcel.lautenbach" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.04.7) Business Organization: XTSY X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <348666661.20040826170722@xtsy.de> To: Olivier Gautherot In-Reply-To: <412D9FB1.5010603@freesurf.fr> References: <801213900.20040825215844@xtsy.de> <412D9FB1.5010603@freesurf.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:09d3dc163080560c6eb0588e74d6b604 cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: changing the shell and editor X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Marcel.lautenbach" List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 15:06:04 -0000 Guten Tag Olivier Gautherot, am Donnerstag, 26. August 2004 um 10:30 schrieben Sie: OG> Hi Marcel! >>hi again, >> >>well, i've tried a bit playin with the /etc/master.passwd, adduser, >>vipw an so on. >> >>now i use the bash shell. but, i am not able to change my enviroment >>variables anymore. trying "set EDITOR emacs" did not work. when ich >>echo my editor variable, it is empty. though i have changed my shell >>back to csh in the /etc/master.password file, when i log on i still >>use the bash. >> >>rebooting the system or kill -1 1 didn't do any good. i am getting >>confused now a bit. acually changes in the master.passwd file should >>take effect in any case, shouldn't they? >> >>pleas help. >> >> OG> Just a dumb question: did you try logging out and back in? OG> You need to do that to refresh for sure your environment OG> (reboot not necessary: it's not Windows :-) ). OG> Also, if you use the bash/csh command "set", it will affect only OG> the current shell. Nested invocations won't be affected. OG> Try "setenv" in csh or "export" in bash. OG> Hope it helps OG> Olivier hi folks, well, problem is solved. i tried the export in bash. i was just wondering why there was nothing in my $SHELL or $EDITOR variabel when using the set. export worked. nevertheless i tend to stick with vipw and chsh. they are rather good, for me personal. and, vipw rewrites the database for the password-file. so, it's kind of secure :-) and i think i will store my little changes in the bash-profile :-) so, thanks all for your help :-) From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 16:01:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF8F16A4CE for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:01:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0694243D69 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:01:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Thu, 26 Aug 2004 11:02:22 -0500 Message-ID: <412E0972.3030405@daleco.biz> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 11:01:54 -0500 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040712 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cody Rioux References: <801213900.20040825215844@xtsy.de> <412D81A0.5080908@wup-katowice.pl> <412D8435.3090101@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Aug 2004 16:02:22.0857 (UTC) FILETIME=[12AF3F90:01C48B86] cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: changing the shell and editor X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:01:57 -0000 Cody Rioux wrote: >It is the setenv command if you are using csh or one of its variants, >however he said that he was using bash, so you would need to export >the variable using the export command, I belive he already has the >problem solved though. :) > > > Well, yes; but "he who?" If you read carefully the message below, you see that I was replying to Arek Czereszewski (hope I spelled that correctly) who stated that "Command set VARIABLE work in t/csh". I was simply noting the truth that in csh/tcsh, you have to "setenv" ... as you see from the example, "set" doesn't work here (in tcsh)... :-) KDK >On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 01:33:25 -0500, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. > wrote: > > >>Arek Czereszewski wrote: >> >> >> >>>Command set VARIABLE work in t/csh >>> >>> >>> >>Actually, isn't is "setenv": >> >> [/home/kadmin/c++/archive] [1:30] >> % setenv FOO BAR >> >> [/home/kadmin/c++/archive] [1:30] >> % echo $FOO >> BAR >> >> [/home/kadmin/c++/archive] [1:30] >> % set FOOD BAR >> >> [/home/kadmin/c++/archive][1:30] >> % echo $FOOD >> >> [/home/kadmin/c++/archive][1:30] >> >>Hmm, FOOD BAR ... >> >>I'm getting hungry ;-) >> >>KDK >> >> From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 16:51:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5751116A4CE for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:51:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC03443D39 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:51:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gr4y.fox@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 73so141574rnk for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 09:51:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.72 with SMTP id u72mr2566660rna; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 09:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.162.17 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 09:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:51:45 -0600 From: Cody Rioux To: Olivier Gautherot In-Reply-To: <412D9FB1.5010603@freesurf.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <801213900.20040825215844@xtsy.de> <412D9FB1.5010603@freesurf.fr> cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: changing the shell and editor X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Cody Rioux List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:51:52 -0000 An alternative to logging out and back in is having root run the command "rehash". On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:30:41 +0200, Olivier Gautherot wrote: > Hi Marcel! > > > >hi again, > > > >well, i've tried a bit playin with the /etc/master.passwd, adduser, > >vipw an so on. > > > >now i use the bash shell. but, i am not able to change my enviroment > >variables anymore. trying "set EDITOR emacs" did not work. when ich > >echo my editor variable, it is empty. though i have changed my shell > >back to csh in the /etc/master.password file, when i log on i still > >use the bash. > > > >rebooting the system or kill -1 1 didn't do any good. i am getting > >confused now a bit. acually changes in the master.passwd file should > >take effect in any case, shouldn't they? > > > >pleas help. > > > > > > Just a dumb question: did you try logging out and back in? > You need to do that to refresh for sure your environment > (reboot not necessary: it's not Windows :-) ). > > Also, if you use the bash/csh command "set", it will affect only > the current shell. Nested invocations won't be affected. > Try "setenv" in csh or "export" in bash. > > Hope it helps > Olivier > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 19:53:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8234516A4CE for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 19:53:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 244E043D41 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 19:53:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from madtux@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id v30so254520rnb for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 12:53:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.206.56 with SMTP id d56mr508760rng; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 12:53:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.8.47 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 12:53:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6ddb7bf8040826125337f556d4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 15:53:34 -0400 From: Kevin Reiter To: "Marcel.lautenbach" In-Reply-To: <801213900.20040825215844@xtsy.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <801213900.20040825215844@xtsy.de> cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: changing the shell and editor X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Kevin Reiter List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 19:53:39 -0000 On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 21:58:44 +0200, Marcel.lautenbach wrote: > now i use the bash shell. but, i am not able to change my enviroment > variables anymore. trying "set EDITOR emacs" did not work. when ich > echo my editor variable, it is empty. though i have changed my shell > back to csh in the /etc/master.password file, when i log on i still > use the bash. If you want to use bash (as I do) and set all your environmental variables, here's the .bashrc I use: # .bashrc # Excerpts from "The Complete FreeBSD" umask 022 export EDITOR=/usr/bin/ee export MANPATH=/usr/share/man:/usr/local/man export PAGER=less export SHELL=/usr/local/bin/bash export PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/X1 1R6/bin # Get my favorite prompt: PS1="\u@\h [\w]\\$ " PS2="\u@\h \! " # Make sure I have a $DISPLAY: if [ "$DISPLAY" = "" ]; then export DISPLAY=:0 fi # Custom aliases go here: alias ls='ls -CFG' # -- End .bashrc -- For the bash shell, you'll need .bashrc and .bash_profile in your $HOME If you want colorized dir listings, like in Linux, you'll also need .dir_colors in addition to the other 2. I've uploaded samples (the ones I use) to http://penguinnetwerx.net/bsdfiles/bash_files.tar You'll need to make them executable in order for them to work upon your next login. You don't need to edit any other files in order to set environmental variables on your box except for those files. You might also want to rename all the other shell files (.profile, etc.) in your homedir, unless you plan on switching back and forth between shells. HTH ~/kevin From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 11:13:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20EFD16A4CE for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 11:13:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0E943D76 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 11:13:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@xtsy.de) Received: from [212.227.126.208] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1C0efn-0007gN-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:13:35 +0200 Received: from [80.140.234.223] (helo=WORK) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1C0efn-0004xg-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:13:35 +0200 Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:15:27 +0200 From: "Marcel.lautenbach" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.04.7) Business Organization: XTSY X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1683214902.20040827131527@xtsy.de> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:09d3dc163080560c6eb0588e74d6b604 Subject: keyboard - how to konfigure for local settings? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Marcel.lautenbach" List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 11:13:37 -0000 hi again, well, after my problems with my shellt and its einviroment variables a ran into a new one. i am using a german keyboard. so, i would like to use the german keymap :-) but, i think i have done s.th. wrong or missed s.th. i have set the keyboard type in my X-configuration and in sysinstall. even in KDE i have used the german keyboard layout. but, that won't work with bash or emacs. i couldn't use the <> and öä keys. so, i have read a bit and set the LC_ALL variabel to "de_DE.ISO8859-1" now, I can use my öä and <> key but vor öä i get 2 different signs. one is the % and the other ist the mathematical sum-sign. in emacs on an tty none of these key works. in (X)emacs i can use öä but not <>. so, i am rather confused here by now. i hope s.o. can help :-) -- mailto:freebsd@xtsy.de From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 11:32:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95C4316A4CE for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 11:32:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0970043D66 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 11:32:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@xtsy.de) Received: from [212.227.126.179] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1C0exi-0001lu-00; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:32:06 +0200 Received: from [80.140.234.223] (helo=WORK) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1C0exi-0004bH-00; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:32:06 +0200 Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:33:57 +0200 From: "Marcel.lautenbach" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.04.7) Business Organization: XTSY X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <58129086.20040827133357@xtsy.de> To: Kevin Reiter In-Reply-To: <6ddb7bf8040826125337f556d4@mail.gmail.com> References: <801213900.20040825215844@xtsy.de> <6ddb7bf8040826125337f556d4@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:09d3dc163080560c6eb0588e74d6b604 cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: changing the shell and editor X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Marcel.lautenbach" List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 11:32:11 -0000 Guten Tag Kevin Reiter, am Donnerstag, 26. August 2004 um 21:53 schrieben Sie: KR> On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 21:58:44 +0200, Marcel.lautenbach wrote: >> now i use the bash shell. but, i am not able to change my enviroment >> variables anymore. trying "set EDITOR emacs" did not work. when ich >> echo my editor variable, it is empty. though i have changed my shell >> back to csh in the /etc/master.password file, when i log on i still >> use the bash. KR> If you want to use bash (as I do) and set all your environmental KR> variables, here's the .bashrc I use: KR> # .bashrc KR> # Excerpts from "The Complete FreeBSD" KR> umask 022 KR> export EDITOR=/usr/bin/ee KR> export MANPATH=/usr/share/man:/usr/local/man KR> export PAGER=less KR> export SHELL=/usr/local/bin/bash KR> export KR> PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/X1 KR> 1R6/bin KR> # Get my favorite prompt: KR> PS1="\u@\h [\w]\\$ " KR> PS2="\u@\h \! " KR> # Make sure I have a $DISPLAY: KR> if [ "$DISPLAY" = "" ]; then KR> export DISPLAY=:0 KR> fi KR> # Custom aliases go here: KR> alias ls='ls -CFG' KR> # -- End .bashrc -- KR> For the bash shell, you'll need .bashrc and .bash_profile in your $HOME KR> If you want colorized dir listings, like in Linux, you'll also need KR> .dir_colors in addition to the other 2. I've uploaded samples (the KR> ones I use) to http://penguinnetwerx.net/bsdfiles/bash_files.tar KR> You'll need to make them executable in order for them to work upon KR> your next login. You don't need to edit any other files in order to KR> set environmental variables on your box except for those files. You KR> might also want to rename all the other shell files (.profile, etc.) KR> in your homedir, unless you plan on switching back and forth between KR> shells. KR> HTH KR> ~/kevin hey kevin, well, i have copied your dir_color file in my home directory, made it executable and also copied to my /etc folder later, but either way, i don't get a colored listing :-( what did i do wrong? -- mailto:freebsd@xtsy.de From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 12:21:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEF0F16A4CE for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 12:21:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D19143D2D for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 12:21:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Fri, 27 Aug 2004 07:25:04 -0500 Message-ID: <412F274D.2050807@daleco.biz> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 07:21:33 -0500 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040712 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Marcel.lautenbach" References: <801213900.20040825215844@xtsy.de> <6ddb7bf8040826125337f556d4@mail.gmail.com> <58129086.20040827133357@xtsy.de> In-Reply-To: <58129086.20040827133357@xtsy.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Aug 2004 12:25:04.0966 (UTC) FILETIME=[E1E8B660:01C48C30] cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: changing the shell and editor X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 12:21:37 -0000 Marcel.lautenbach wrote: >Guten Tag Kevin Reiter, > > >hey kevin, > >well, i have copied your dir_color file in my home directory, made it >executable and also copied to my /etc folder later, but either way, i >don't get a colored listing :-( >what did i do wrong? > > > Well, different Kevin here. And different shell. However, it works for me thusly (remember, this is tcsh, you'll have to translate): setenv CLICOLOR alias ls ls -FG Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 19:01:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A40C416A4CE for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 19:01:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail2.plainhost.com (mail2.plainhost.com [208.179.130.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1B12C43D39 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 19:01:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from soporte@diotronic.co.cr) Received: (qmail 4923 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2004 19:05:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO servidor) (soporte@diotronic.co.cr@200.12.239.2) by mail2.plainhost.com with SMTP; 27 Aug 2004 19:05:35 -0000 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Soporte_|_Diotronic_de_Centroam=E9rica_S.A.?= To: Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:01:48 -0600 Organization: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Diotronic_de_Centroam=E9rica_S.A.?= Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Thread-Index: AcSMaE1hhHShv4SlQlqXjQVzw351ng== Subject: DHCP refresh X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 19:01:33 -0000 Hi! How do I refresh the DHCP for an interface? Thanks. Harry Barrantes Diotronic de Centroam=E9rica S.A. Ingenier=EDa en Redes, Electr=F3nica e Internet Tel.: (506) 223-0780 Fax: (506) 233-4193 Tel. Movil: (506) 841-5957 E-mail: soporte@diotronic.co.cr Website: www.diotronic.co.cr From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 19:10:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F8B816A4CE for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 19:10:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6288B43D46 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 19:10:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sue@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (sue@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7RJAQGR024947 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 19:10:26 GMT (envelope-from sue@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i7RJAQnC024932 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 19:10:26 GMT (envelope-from sue) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 19:10:26 GMT From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <200408271910.i7RJAQnC024932@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies FAK X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 19:10:27 -0000 FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. 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It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. 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Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org is distributed to all members of the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 28 14:56:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA1316A4CE for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 14:56:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pd5mo3so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0BFD43D5D for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 14:56:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dfarmour@myrealbox.com) Received: from pd4mr5so.prod.shaw.ca (pd4mr5so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.50])2003))freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 08:49:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml8so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.152]) by pd4mr5so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0I3500F1PVUDWX60@pd4mr5so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 08:49:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from elaine (S01060020ed775794.gv.shawcable.net [24.108.145.214]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I3500A0CVUCA3@l-daemon> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 08:49:25 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 07:51:45 -0700 From: dfarmour@myrealbox.com In-reply-to: <20040828120055.67C8816A4F0@hub.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-id: <41303991.14906.111195@localhost> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21b) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Priority: normal Subject: Re: Digest, Vol 75, Issue 6... 14k? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 14:56:27 -0000 hello, to quote peggy lee: is this all there is? ;c) > Send freebsd-newbies mailing list submissions to > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > freebsd-newbies-request@freebsd.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > freebsd-newbies-owner@freebsd.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of freebsd-newbies digest..." > to quote bugs bunny: tha-a-a-t's ALL, folks! From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 28 18:03:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BEB416A4CE for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 18:03:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20CB043D46 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 18:03:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Sat, 28 Aug 2004 13:06:45 -0500 Message-ID: <4130C8D8.30802@daleco.biz> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 13:03:04 -0500 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040712 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dfarmour@myrealbox.com References: <41303991.14906.111195@localhost> In-Reply-To: <41303991.14906.111195@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Aug 2004 18:06:46.0008 (UTC) FILETIME=[C7E53780:01C48D29] cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Digest, Vol 75, Issue 6... 14k? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 18:03:10 -0000 dfarmour@myrealbox.com wrote: >hello, > >to quote peggy lee: is this all there is? ;c) > > > >><> >> >> > >to quote bugs bunny: tha-a-a-t's ALL, folks! > > :-) "All the news that's fit to print??" Hmm, my "newbies" box has ~20 messages in the last 7 days. Don't know what's up with the digest version .... If you're really troubled by this, I can forward 'em all to ya ... ;-) Kevin Kinsey