From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 12 06:21:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1867616A4CE for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 06:21:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp802.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp802.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9BCDA43D1D for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 06:21:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) (jtinnin@pacbell.net@64.171.1.210 with login) by smtp802.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Sep 2004 06:21:48 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 23:21:59 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <200409072315.i87NFbcx005721@in.flite.net> In-Reply-To: <200409072315.i87NFbcx005721@in.flite.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200409112321.59332.krinklyfig@spymac.com> Subject: Re: General Unix Learning X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: krinklyfig@spymac.com List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 06:21:49 -0000 On Tuesday 07 September 2004 12:15 pm, "hide110" wrote: > Please forgive me if this is not the right place to turn but, I > figure you all would be able to share your wisdom with me. > > I am a Windows user and I've hated it for the past few years. I can relate, though I still keep it around for games and sometimes sound production stuff (which is really better on a Mac ...). I don't like Windows, but it still has its uses for me. > The > Unix experience I have accrued has mainly been working from a shell > account; nothing really in detail about the actual operating system > or installation. I have considered FreeBSD & Linux, but really, for a > desktop system do you guys think it's viable for a nearly pure unix > newbie to tinker around with BSD? Or would it be easier to start > with Linux & eventually port over to BSD? Well, I never took to Linux like some people, though I used it occasionally over the years and basically understood it, but when I discovered FreeBSD, everything was suddenly so much more logical - it made so much more sense. It's not as "user-friendly" as many Linux distros, but the way everything fits together - from the complete system approach to the ports system - makes it much easier to maintain and less hassle all around. Even Linux made more sense after I started learning FreeBSD. It does require some commitment on your part to learn it, but it's time well spent. Like others have mentioned, FreeBSD is more of a "pure" Unix-like OS than Linux is, but this means if you learn it you'll understand Unix (and by extension other *nixes) much better. > Normally I'd take my own advice (if you want to use BSD, use BSD, if > you want to use Linux at the end of the day, use that) but I'm just > trying to be practical with all learning curves taken into > consideration. Try both - seriously, and you should try more than one Linux distro, too. I have Slackware, Win2k and FreeBSD on one machine - FreeBSD gets the most use, though Win gets fired up when I want to play a game (some good games have been written for *nix, but Win is still the only serious gaming platform). When it comes down to it, if you're going to use a window manager or desktop, it will look pretty much the same on any system - KDE on FreeBSD looks the same as it does on Linux, but what's underneath is what counts. Linux does have an edge with hardware support, but quite a lot of hardware works on FreeBSD. I'm running on a 2GHz AthlonXP on an Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe with an 8xAGP ATI Radeon 9600XT. For a while, I didn't have 3D support in FreeBSD (though it worked in Linux), but after upgrading to 5.3 beta3 I now have it - this was not a big deal even when it wasn't there, as I don't play many games in *nix. As far as Linux, if you want to go the easy route, try Mandrake or SuSE. If you want "pure" Linux, try Slackware, and some of the other hardcore people tend to distros like Debian and Gentoo - the latter is interesting, as it uses an installation helper called portage, which was inspired by BSD's ports. Although some people swear by it, I'd avoid anything-Red Hat (e.g., Fedora). RPMs are a nightmare. And after you've tried at least a couple distros of Linux, try FreeBSD and compare. It may not be right for you, but you might not want to use anything else after you do ... hey, happened to me ;) > My deepest apologies if I should not be asking something like this > here. But any replies would be terribly appreciated. No, this is great - we finally have some on-topic conversation! W00t! - jt From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 12 07:05:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5F316A4CF; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 07:05:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [66.154.97.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B0743D2D; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 07:05:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB7F5864; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 00:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nezlok.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 83257-04; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 00:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E5CAD56F9; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 00:10:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20040912071002.E5CAD56F9@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 00:10:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at unixathome.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2004-08-22 - 2004-09-11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 07:05:16 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . These are the articles posted during this period: 3-Sep : Disk cloning with Acronis True Image I wanted to use dd, but True Image did the job! http://freebsddiary.org/disk-cloning.php?2 1-Sep : Using a jail as a virtual machine Sharing the hardware, without the risk http://freebsddiary.org/jail.php?2 -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 07:52:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C4916A4CE for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 07:52:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from in.flite.net (in.flite.net [207.203.36.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3058543D41 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 07:52:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hide110@us-it.net) Received: from mail.us-it.net (web1.webave.net [207.203.36.9] (may be forged)) by in.flite.net (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with SMTP id i8E7qKcx011377 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 03:52:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from hide110@us-it.net) Message-Id: <200409140752.i8E7qKcx011377@in.flite.net> From: "hide110" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 03:52:20 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: US-IT Webmail / v1.0 Subject: Setting up Internet X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 07:52:22 -0000 Sorry for the silly question, maybe I just haven't really been reading up enough, but I have never really delved much into networks. Here's my current setup, all my systems are connected to a small home office router which is in turn connected to a cable modem. With my Windows machines I just plug a cat5 into an empty slot and it's automatically assigned an IP. Some are setup as static based on MAC and some not; regardless whenever it's plugged in it will autodetect. During the FreeBSD installation it does not seem to pull any information down when I choose DHCP, I foolishly did not enter in the required fields, & just went on to setup XWindows. Where do I modify my network settings? What command would I use? Can anyone point me in the right direction for getting my internet setup? From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 10:38:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 219AB16A4CE for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 10:38:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from xxl.rdsbv.ro (xxl.rdsbv.ro [82.77.46.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3EF343D2D for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 10:38:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from petre.bandac@rdsnet.ro) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by xxl.rdsbv.ro (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A3460CF; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 13:39:52 +0300 (EEST) Received: from xxl.rdsbv.ro ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (xxl.rdsbv.ro [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29515-02; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 13:39:50 +0300 (EEST) Received: from xxl.rdsbv.ro (localhost.rdsbv.ro [127.0.0.1]) by xxl.rdsbv.ro (Postfix) with SMTP; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 13:39:50 +0300 (EEST) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 13:39:50 +0300 From: Petre Bandac To: "Rune Nielsen" Message-Id: <20040914133950.21a1dec5@xxl.rdsbv.ro> In-Reply-To: <00c901c49415$141ee690$6802a8c0@IT1> References: <00c901c49415$141ee690$6802a8c0@IT1> Organization: Romania Data Systems - Brasov Branch X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) Y-Originating-Environment: a place full of shit Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at xxl.rdsbv.ro cc: FreeBSD Help Subject: Re: PostFix or what? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 10:38:43 -0000 postfix, of course with http://high5.net/postfixadmin/ as the webtool you wanted plus an extra bonus of amavisd+clamav+spamassassin @ http://flakshack.com/anti-spam/ hope you'll have the patience petre On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 15:26:11 +0200 Anno Domini, the honourable Rune Nielsen wrote using one of his keyboards: > Hi, > > What mailserver do you prefer? > -it is a must that the users is authensicateing through MySQL, and if > posible, then it would be great with a webadmin tool to administrate > the server with. > > Rune. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Petre Bandac Network Engineer Romania Data Systems - Brasov Branch Tel: +4068474134 Fax: +4068474135 Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such a case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 14:43:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD1016A4CE for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 14:43:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D32943D46 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 14:43:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Tue, 14 Sep 2004 09:46:24 -0500 Message-ID: <414703A2.1000507@daleco.biz> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 09:43:46 -0500 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040712 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hide110 References: <200409140752.i8E7qKcx011377@in.flite.net> In-Reply-To: <200409140752.i8E7qKcx011377@in.flite.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Sep 2004 14:46:26.0368 (UTC) FILETIME=[9CA77400:01C49A69] cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Setting up Internet X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 14:43:51 -0000 hide110 wrote: >Sorry for the silly question, maybe I just haven't really been reading up >enough, but I have never really delved much into networks. Here's my current >setup, all my systems are connected to a small home office router which is in >turn connected to a cable modem. With my Windows machines I just plug a cat5 >into an empty slot and it's automatically assigned an IP. Some are setup as >static based on MAC and some not; regardless whenever it's plugged in it will >autodetect. > >During the FreeBSD installation it does not seem to pull any information down >when I choose DHCP, I foolishly did not enter in the required fields, & just >went on to setup XWindows. Where do I modify my network settings? What >command would I use? Can anyone point me in the right direction for getting >my internet setup? > > Obligatory answer: send your ?? to questions@freebsd.org, which is the more applicable forum. Friendly answer, newb to newb: edit /etc/rc.conf. Here's a sample of mine: # NETWORK CONFIG hostname="foobar.daleco.biz" ifconfig_sis0="192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0" You could just as easily have { ifconfig_sis0="DHCP" } there to pull your info from the router. You may also need { defaultrouter=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx } (i.e. the IP of your router) --- I don't generally run FBSD via DHCP, and am therefore not sure if you'll get your default route set or not. I *think* you will.... HTH, KDK From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 14:50:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 858A916A4CE for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 14:50:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from iglobalnetworks.com (mail.iglobalnetworks.com [63.208.1.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F27DD43D31 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 14:50:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@iglobalnetworks.com) Received: from chris ([24.73.90.32]) by iglobalnetworks.com with MailEnable ESMTP; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:00:24 -0400 From: "Chris Lynch" To: Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 10:59:45 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2739.300 In-Reply-To: <414703A2.1000507@daleco.biz> Subject: RE: Setting up Internet X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 14:50:31 -0000 Don't forget you can also su to root and at the prompt type: /stand/sysinstall This will provide you with the menu you saw during installation. Otherwise, you can vi the /etc/rc.conf file for your network settings. I recommend doing /stand/sysinstall , as later you can view the /etc/rc.conf. Also, man rc.conf will give more information. Chris -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:44 AM To: hide110 Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Setting up Internet hide110 wrote: >Sorry for the silly question, maybe I just haven't really been reading up >enough, but I have never really delved much into networks. Here's my current >setup, all my systems are connected to a small home office router which is in >turn connected to a cable modem. With my Windows machines I just plug a cat5 >into an empty slot and it's automatically assigned an IP. Some are setup as >static based on MAC and some not; regardless whenever it's plugged in it will >autodetect. > >During the FreeBSD installation it does not seem to pull any information down >when I choose DHCP, I foolishly did not enter in the required fields, & just >went on to setup XWindows. Where do I modify my network settings? What >command would I use? Can anyone point me in the right direction for getting >my internet setup? > > Obligatory answer: send your ?? to questions@freebsd.org, which is the more applicable forum. Friendly answer, newb to newb: edit /etc/rc.conf. Here's a sample of mine: # NETWORK CONFIG hostname="foobar.daleco.biz" ifconfig_sis0="192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0" You could just as easily have { ifconfig_sis0="DHCP" } there to pull your info from the router. You may also need { defaultrouter=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx } (i.e. the IP of your router) --- I don't generally run FBSD via DHCP, and am therefore not sure if you'll get your default route set or not. I *think* you will.... HTH, KDK _______________________________________________ freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 18:05:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DDF916A4CE for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:05:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail1.dslextreme.com (mail1.dslextreme.com [66.51.199.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D2A2443D58 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:05:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmlewis@dslextreme.com) Received: (qmail 15106 invoked from network); 14 Sep 2004 18:05:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.dslextreme.com) (66.51.199.92) by 192.168.8.25 with SMTP; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:05:53 +0000 Message-ID: <459caf8e8a2706aceb8a.20040914110554.wzyrjvf@www.dslextreme.com> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:05:54 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joshua Lewis" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org User-Agent: DSL Extreme Webmail (www.dslextreme.com) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: DNS config problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jmlewis@dslextreme.com List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:05:55 -0000 I don't think I have set up Bind9 correctly and I was hoping someone could point out any mistakes I may have made. I have tried to follow the examples in the handbook. I even bought DNS and BIND from O'riley. I don't really know how to troubleshoot a DNS issue yet. I know of the tools I just don't understand them yet. I have a MS DNS server running fine as my secondary and when I try to troubleshoot it I can't tell if I am getting a response from my MS system or my FBSD system. Ultimately I would like to make this bind system my primary. Once that is done I have made arrangements for an off site system to act as my secondary for redundancy and I can eliminate the MS system all together. Should I post my config info here or is that just a real bad idea? I mean anyone can get what they want from the internet I just don't know if posting it here is like inviting someone to crack my system. Also I currently only have one FreeBSD system. I am trying to run multiple services on this one system Mail, DNS, WWW, SQL. It is a pretty beefy system and will have no problem handling the load. I just want to hide the hostname of the system when I can. I only have the one customer hitting the system and it is a real small company. This system is overkill for them so I am trying to utilize the system to the best of my ability. I know in a perfect world I should have them each running on separate systems however that is not feasible right now. I was thinking of getting some old P1 systems and moving DNS over to that. Any other recommendations are welcome. Here is what I have. Please be gentile. apollo# ll /etc/namedb/ total 18 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 427 May 25 14:28 PROTO.localhost-v6.rev -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 423 May 25 14:28 PROTO.localhost.rev -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 492 Sep 10 16:21 localhost-v6.rev -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 488 Sep 10 16:21 localhost.rev -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1032 May 25 14:28 make-localhost -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 133 Sep 10 16:45 named.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2602 May 25 14:28 named.root drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Sep 10 16:57 prideindesign.com apollo# more named.conf options { directory "/etc/namedb"; zone "prideindesign.com"{ type master; file "prideindesign.com/prideindesign.com.rev"; }; zone "250.159.66.in-addr.arpa" { type master; file "prideindesign.com/250.159.66.in-addr.arpa.bak"; }; apollo# ll prideindesign.com/ total 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 649 Sep 14 06:58 250.159.66.in-addr.arpa -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 978 Sep 14 06:57 prideindesign.com.rev apollo# more 250.159.66.in-addr.arpa $TTL 3600 250.159.66.in-addr.arpa. IN SOA ns1.prideindesign.com. admin.prideindesign.com. ( 200409131 ; Serial 10800 ; Refresh 3600 ; Retry 604800 ; Expire 3600 ) ; Minimum @ IN NS ns1.prideindesign.com. @ IN NS ns2.prideindesign.com. 221 IN PTR ns1.prideindesign.com. 218 IN PTR ns2.prideindesign.com. 221 IN PTR mail.prideindesign.com. 221 IN PTR prideindesign.com. 221 IN PTR www.prideindesign.com. 221 IN PTR imap.prideindesign.com. apollo# more prideindesign.com.rev $TTL 3600 prideindesign.com. IN SOA ns1.prideindesign.com. admin.prideindesign.com. ( 2004091301 ; Serial 10800 ; Refresh 3600 ; Retry 604800 ; Expire 86400 ) ; Minimum TTL ; ; DNS Servers ; prideindesign.com. IN NS ns1.prideindesign.com. prideindesign.com. IN NS ns2.prideindesign.com. ; ; Machine Names ; localhost IN A 127.0.0.1 prideindesig.com. IN A 66.159.250.221 ns1.prideindesign.com. IN A 66.159.250.221 ns2.prideindesign.com. IN A 66.159.250.218 mail.prideindesign.com. IN A 66.159.250.221 ; ; Aliases ; www.prideindesign.com. IN CNAME prideindesign.com. imap.prideindesign.com. IN CNAME mail.prideindesign.com. smtp.prideindeign.com. IN CNAME mail.prideindesign.com. ; MX Record prideindesign.com. IN MX 10 mail.prideindesign.com. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 18:24:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C936916A4CE for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:24:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B7F743D48 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:24:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Tue, 14 Sep 2004 13:26:54 -0500 Message-ID: <41473751.7050601@daleco.biz> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 13:24:17 -0500 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040712 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jmlewis@dslextreme.com References: <459caf8e8a2706aceb8a.20040914110554.wzyrjvf@www.dslextreme.com> In-Reply-To: <459caf8e8a2706aceb8a.20040914110554.wzyrjvf@www.dslextreme.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Sep 2004 18:26:55.0086 (UTC) FILETIME=[6995A0E0:01C49A88] cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS config problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:24:19 -0000 Joshua Lewis wrote: >I don't think I have set up Bind9 correctly and I was hoping someone could >point out any mistakes I may have made. > I'm no expert, either. Using dig, nslookup, host, and so on, I did find one error. Somewhere you have a record pointing to a "somehost.local" as an NS. That won't work ;) Try "dig yourdomain.com" and see for yourself... Also, your ISP (dslextreme?) seems to be handling your reverse DNS, so you don't need to mess with that ... nobody out here will ever see it, I don't think. Why don't you head over to dnsreport.com and enter your domain name there? Neat tool, will tell you more than I can.... Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 19:48:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A81A316A4CE for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 19:48:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fidel.freesurf.fr (fidel.freesurf.fr [212.43.206.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0C6743D3F for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 19:47:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olivier@gautherot.net) Received: from [212.43.209.94] (du-209-94.nat.adsl.claranet.fr [212.43.209.94]) by fidel.freesurf.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0502A4902; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:47:58 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <41474AEA.2020707@gautherot.net> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:47:54 +0200 From: Olivier Gautherot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040812 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jmlewis@dslextreme.com, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <459caf8e8a2706aceb8a.20040914110554.wzyrjvf@www.dslextreme.com> In-Reply-To: <459caf8e8a2706aceb8a.20040914110554.wzyrjvf@www.dslextreme.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: DNS config problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 19:48:00 -0000 Greetings Joshua! In short, a magical wand and a cast should get you sorted out... unless you ask for a more scientific approach on the freebsd-questions list ;-) Sorry, obligatory disclaimer... :-) Joshua Lewis wrote: >I don't think I have set up Bind9 correctly and I was hoping someone could >point out any mistakes I may have made. I have tried to follow the >examples in the handbook. I even bought DNS and BIND from O'riley. > > So you're definitely the wizard on this list... :-) >I don't really know how to troubleshoot a DNS issue yet. I know of the >tools I just don't understand them yet. I have a MS DNS server running >fine as my secondary and when I try to troubleshoot it I can't tell if I >am getting a response from my MS system or my FBSD system. > > A command you can try is traceroute, which will show you what your system does to resolve the name. nslookup should also give you some valuable inputs. >Should I post my config info here or is that just a real bad idea? I mean >anyone can get what they want from the internet I just don't know if >posting it here is like inviting someone to crack my system. > > Again, I would advise to do it on a more expert list if you decide to do so (although it is probably wiser to send it on request). >Also I currently only have one FreeBSD system. I am trying to run multiple >services on this one system Mail, DNS, WWW, SQL. It is a pretty beefy >system and will have no problem handling the load. I just want to hide the >hostname of the system when I can. I only have the one customer hitting >the system and it is a real small company. This system is overkill for >them so I am trying to utilize the system to the best of my ability. I >know in a perfect world I should have them each running on separate >systems however that is not feasible right now. I was thinking of getting >some old P1 systems and moving DNS over to that. Any other recommendations >are welcome. > > I have an old 486 motherboard sitting around if you wish... :-) Seriously, one thing you can do is set up some jails for your mail and WWW (possibly SQL too). This way, if someone hacks you web server, the rest of you system should remain safe. Just make Apache claim it is running on a Windows machine and, by the time the hackers find out that it was a joke, they will probably be sitting in a psychiatric hospital after a nervous breakdown :-) Cheers Olivier From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 20:40:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D5EF16A4CE for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:40:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from in.flite.net (in.flite.net [207.203.36.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F04BA43D31 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:40:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hide110@us-it.net) Received: from mail.us-it.net (web1.webave.net [207.203.36.9] (may be forged)) by in.flite.net (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with SMTP id i8EKeacx002644 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:40:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from hide110@us-it.net) Message-Id: <200409142040.i8EKeacx002644@in.flite.net> From: "hide110" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:40:36 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: US-IT Webmail / v1.0 Subject: Generic Laptop Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:40:38 -0000 Just curious, I know I can check the hardware lists for compatibilities, but for a decent laptop running BSD, what model/manufacturers have you all enjoyed using? I'm thinking a Toshiba Satellite, or perhaps an IBM thinkpad. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 20:48:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5E8F16A4CE for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:48:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mooseriver.com (h-66-166-146-73.snvacaid.covad.net [66.166.146.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF5843D2D for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:48:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jgrosch@mooseriver.com) Received: by mooseriver.com (Postfix, from userid 200) id 800E517074; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 13:48:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 13:48:59 -0700 From: Josef Grosch To: hide110 Message-ID: <20040914204859.GA45088@mooseriver.com> References: <200409142040.i8EKeacx002644@in.flite.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200409142040.i8EKeacx002644@in.flite.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: Moose River, LLC cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Generic Laptop Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jgrosch@MooseRiver.com List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:49:00 -0000 --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 04:40:36PM +0000, hide110 wrote: > Just curious, I know I can check the hardware lists for compatibilities, = but > for a decent laptop running BSD, what model/manufacturers have you all > enjoyed using? I'm thinking a Toshiba Satellite, or perhaps an IBM think= pad. I have had a lot of luck with IBM thinkpads. The T221, T22, T23 and T40 really do the job. I would avoid the Sony Viao.=20 Josef --=20 Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 5.2.1 jgrosch@MooseRiver.com | Micro$oft free world | Berkeley, Ca. --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFBR1k7y8prLS1GYSERAugLAJ0RSuxJRtwi2MbXHLCoPGoz0+mptgCfamax oa+wiiV9Hsl02fab1UFHVn4= =B83N -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N-- From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 21:09:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FA6916A4CE for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:09:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail4.dslextreme.com (mail4.dslextreme.com [66.51.199.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 47A5043D2D for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:09:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmlewis@dslextreme.com) Received: (qmail 3614 invoked from network); 14 Sep 2004 21:09:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.dslextreme.com) (66.51.199.92) by 192.168.8.81 with SMTP; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:09:54 +0000 Message-ID: <1734a1393ea75f3a9c9fa.20040914140955.wzyrjvf@www.dslextreme.com> In-Reply-To: <41473751.7050601@daleco.biz> References: <459caf8e8a2706aceb8a.20040914110554.wzyrjvf@www.dslextreme.com> <41473751.7050601@daleco.biz> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 14:09:55 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joshua Lewis" To: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: DSL Extreme Webmail (www.dslextreme.com) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal cc: freeBSD-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS config problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jmlewis@dslextreme.com List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:09:55 -0000 > Why don't you head over to dnsreport.com and enter your domain > name there? Neat tool, will tell you more than I can.... This looks like a good tool to use. Thanks. Thank you, Joshua Lewis Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. > Joshua Lewis wrote: > >>I don't think I have set up Bind9 correctly and I was hoping someone >> could >>point out any mistakes I may have made. >> > I'm no expert, either. Using dig, nslookup, host, and so on, I did > find one error. Somewhere you have a record pointing to a > "somehost.local" as an NS. That won't work ;) Try > "dig yourdomain.com" and see for yourself... > > Also, your ISP (dslextreme?) seems to be handling your reverse > DNS, so you don't need to mess with that ... nobody out here will > ever see it, I don't think. > > Why don't you head over to dnsreport.com and enter your domain > name there? Neat tool, will tell you more than I can.... > > Kevin Kinsey > > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 01:33:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F5616A4CE for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 01:33:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CBF243D2D for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 01:33:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robg.list@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 78so127947rnk for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:33:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.96.16 with SMTP id t16mr160898rnb; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:33:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.83.59 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:33:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5c389d3b04091418337c4b7afd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:33:38 -0400 From: robg To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Setting env. var and keeping it when logging in? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: robg List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 01:33:45 -0000 hi, id like PURE_PASSWDFILE=/usr/local/etc/pureftpd.passwd PURE_DBFILE=/usr/local/etc/pureftpd.pdb i did: setenv PURE_PASSWDFILE /usr/local/etc/pureftpd.passwd setenv PURE_DBFILE /usr/local/etc/pureftpd.pdb but when i relogin, they dissapear from `printenv`.. how do i keep it? thanks -- robg robg.list@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 03:07:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BFD116A4CE for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 03:07:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gatecrasher.dyndns.org (pool-138-88-72-53.res.east.verizon.net [138.88.72.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95BB843D2D for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 03:07:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gordon.ewasiuk@verizon.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) i8F37Z1f010084 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 23:07:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gordon.ewasiuk@verizon.net) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 23:07:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Gordon Ewasiuk X-X-Sender: gewasiuk@gatecrasher.dyndns.org To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200409142040.i8EKeacx002644@in.flite.net> Message-ID: <20040914230555.I10080@gatecrasher.dyndns.org> References: <200409142040.i8EKeacx002644@in.flite.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Generic Laptop Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: gordon.ewasiuk@verizon.net List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 03:07:46 -0000 On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, hide110 wrote: > Just curious, I know I can check the hardware lists for compatibilities, but > for a decent laptop running BSD, what model/manufacturers have you all > enjoyed using? I'm thinking a Toshiba Satellite, or perhaps an IBM thinkpad. http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/ http://www.cse.ucsc.edu/~dkulp/fbsd/laptop.html First two links from google for 'freebsd' and 'laptop'. :P From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 03:17:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E3F016A4CF for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 03:17:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fidel.freesurf.fr (fidel.freesurf.fr [212.43.206.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51BC343D1D for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 03:17:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olivier@gautherot.net) Received: from [212.43.209.94] (du-209-94.nat.adsl.claranet.fr [212.43.209.94]) by fidel.freesurf.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA262A492C; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 05:17:35 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4147B44C.3030106@gautherot.net> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 05:17:32 +0200 From: Olivier Gautherot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040812 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: robg References: <5c389d3b04091418337c4b7afd@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5c389d3b04091418337c4b7afd@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Setting env. var and keeping it when logging in? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 03:17:38 -0000 Hi Rob! robg wrote: >hi, > >id like > >PURE_PASSWDFILE=/usr/local/etc/pureftpd.passwd >PURE_DBFILE=/usr/local/etc/pureftpd.pdb > >i did: > >setenv PURE_PASSWDFILE /usr/local/etc/pureftpd.passwd >setenv PURE_DBFILE /usr/local/etc/pureftpd.pdb > >but when i relogin, they dissapear from `printenv`.. how do i keep it? > >thanks > > Just a dumb question: did you insert these lines in your .cshrc or .tcshrc? (assuming you use csh or tcsh as your login shell). Your environment disappears when you log out (that's normal behavior) Cheers Olivier From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 00:21:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 630E116A4CF for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 00:21:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E8F243D49 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 00:21:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marcus.vinicius.ferreira@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 78so300581rnk for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:21:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.96.12 with SMTP id t12mr1103366rnb; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:21:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.78.36 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:21:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 21:21:00 -0300 From: Marcus Vinicius Ferreira To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marcus Vinicius Ferreira List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 00:21:01 -0000 -- Marcus Vinicius Ferreira From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 01:43:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9462F16A4CE; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 01:43:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asclepius.uwa.edu.au (asclepius3.uwa.edu.au [130.95.128.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23A9543D1D; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 01:43:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rays@cms.uwa.edu.au) Received: from asclepius (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by asclepius (Postfix) with SMTP id 27A4D3673BA; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:43:26 +0800 (WST) X-UWA-Client-IP: 130.95.234.2 (UWA) Received: from surgery.uwa.edu.au (surgery.uwa.edu.au [130.95.234.2]) by asclepius.uwa.edu.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1363B3672DF; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:43:26 +0800 (WST) Received: from rays.cms.uwa.edu.au (rays.surgery.uwa.edu.au [130.95.234.8]) by surgery.uwa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA13417; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:43:25 +0800 (WST) Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.0.20040916091034.01bb8c78@130.95.234.2> X-Sender: rays@130.95.234.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:42:54 +0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: Ray Smith Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Supported Hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 01:43:27 -0000 Hi all, Apologies for the cross posting. I have just received a box with the an Intel SE7210TP1 motherboard, and was wondering if anyone has been able to get FreeBSD running on it? I could'nt find it in the supported list of hardware, but though I would give it a go anyway. I have installed 5.2.1 but have run in to problems with the networking. There are two built in network cards an Intel PRO/100+ 82551QM, and an Intel PRO/1000 82547EI. Both seem to be detected, and I can set up the network parameters, but neither seem to work. I am able to ping internally, but nothing leaves the box. This is my first attempt at installing FreeBSD, so hopefully there's something I have missed, or is my hardware not yet supported? Any suggestions? Best reagrds, Ray. ----- Ray Smith Centre for Musculoskeletal Studies School of Surgery & Pathology University of Western Australia (CRICOS Provider No. 00126G) Royal Perth Hospital Medical Research Foundation Bldg Rear 50 Murray St, Perth, Western Australia, 6000 Ph: +61 8 9224 0307 Fax: +61 8 9224 0204 Email: rays@cms.uwa.edu.au From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 12:48:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4773916A4CE; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 12:48:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE6B643D2F; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 12:48:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Thu, 16 Sep 2004 07:48:14 -0500 Message-ID: <41498B8C.3050109@daleco.biz> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 07:48:12 -0500 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040712 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ray Smith References: <6.0.1.1.0.20040916091034.01bb8c78@130.95.234.2> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.0.20040916091034.01bb8c78@130.95.234.2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Sep 2004 12:48:14.0703 (UTC) FILETIME=[6E84BFF0:01C49BEB] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Supported Hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 12:48:16 -0000 Ray Smith wrote: > Hi all, > > Apologies for the cross posting. > Accepted. Obligatory disclaimer is that it's really not an "on topic" post for the "newbies" list; the charter for that list suggests rather strongly that technical issues be discussed on questions@... While I'm at it ;-), it's good etiquette to wrap your email's lines at about 72 characters because some guys are actually reading the lists with text mode displays and the like. So, hello, welcome to FreeBSD, glad to have you! Thanks for a well-worded question, and I've fixed your lines for you and removed the cross-post to newbies ....consider yourself chastised? :-) > I have just received a box with the an Intel SE7210TP1 motherboard, > and was wondering if anyone has been able to get FreeBSD running > on it? I could'nt find it in the supported list of hardware, but though > I would give it a go anyway. I have installed 5.2.1 but have run in to > problems with the networking. There are two built in network cards > an Intel PRO/100+ 82551QM, and an Intel PRO/1000 82547EI. Both > seem to be detected, and I can set up the network parameters, but > neither seem to work. I am able to ping internally, but nothing leaves > the box. > > This is my first attempt at installing FreeBSD, so hopefully there's > something I have missed, or is my hardware not yet supported? Any > suggestions? Well, first another disclaimer: I have no such box, but it seems likely that it's supported. If the "supported hardware" page on the website doesn't give information, the next step would likely be to read the manpage for the appropriate driver. Example: in this box I have one RealTek NIC, which uses the "rl" driver, so I can do "man 4 rl" at the prompt and read up on the driver --- about the first thing that is covered is which cards are supported by the driver. Try that first, if you haven't, for your cards. The next thing to check for is pilot error (sorry, but it happens to everybody at one time or another, I would wager). The sentence "I am able to ping internally but nothing leaves the box" seems a tad unusual, and as a result I'd sure like to see the output of "ifconfig" and "netstat -rn", for starters. Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 16:26:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3617816A4CE for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 16:26:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ihemail1.lucent.com (ihemail1.lucent.com [192.11.222.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4AFF43D46 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 16:26:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dgunther@lucent.com) Received: from nj7460exch001h.wins.lucent.com (h135-17-42-36.lucent.com [135.17.42.36]) by ihemail1.lucent.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8GGPwfR014594 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 11:25:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: by NJ7460EXCH001H with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 12:25:58 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Gunther, Dean (Dean)" To: jmlewis@dslextreme.com, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 12:25:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: RE: DNS config problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 16:26:03 -0000 What I would do is start nslookup in interactive mode by running nslookup Then once inside nslookup you can set the server you wish to query by typing server= You can also see what is going on with the query by setting the debug level set d2 This will give you a lot of output as to what query was sent to what server to be able to resolve your query so you will want to be able to scroll the screen to see the queries and their responses. You should not have a localhost record in your prideindesign.com zone. You should create a separate zone db.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa with a zone file similar to the one below: =========================================================================== ; Local server zone information: 0.0.127.in-addr.arpa ;=========================================================================== @ IN SOA dmguntherbsd.company.com. email.company.com. ( 1 ; Serial No. 21600 ; Refresh 3600 ; Retry 604800 ; Expire 86400 ) ; Minimum ; IN NS dmguntherbsd.company.com. 1 IN PTR localhost. As long as you have the zone company.com and an A record for dmguntherbsd in that zone. Give that a shot and let me know if that helps. Dean -----Original Message----- From: Joshua Lewis [mailto:jmlewis@dslextreme.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 2:06 PM To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: DNS config problems I don't think I have set up Bind9 correctly and I was hoping someone could point out any mistakes I may have made. I have tried to follow the examples in the handbook. I even bought DNS and BIND from O'riley. I don't really know how to troubleshoot a DNS issue yet. I know of the tools I just don't understand them yet. I have a MS DNS server running fine as my secondary and when I try to troubleshoot it I can't tell if I am getting a response from my MS system or my FBSD system. Ultimately I would like to make this bind system my primary. Once that is done I have made arrangements for an off site system to act as my secondary for redundancy and I can eliminate the MS system all together. Should I post my config info here or is that just a real bad idea? I mean anyone can get what they want from the internet I just don't know if posting it here is like inviting someone to crack my system. Also I currently only have one FreeBSD system. I am trying to run multiple services on this one system Mail, DNS, WWW, SQL. It is a pretty beefy system and will have no problem handling the load. I just want to hide the hostname of the system when I can. I only have the one customer hitting the system and it is a real small company. This system is overkill for them so I am trying to utilize the system to the best of my ability. I know in a perfect world I should have them each running on separate systems however that is not feasible right now. I was thinking of getting some old P1 systems and moving DNS over to that. Any other recommendations are welcome. Here is what I have. Please be gentile. apollo# ll /etc/namedb/ total 18 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 427 May 25 14:28 PROTO.localhost-v6.rev -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 423 May 25 14:28 PROTO.localhost.rev -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 492 Sep 10 16:21 localhost-v6.rev -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 488 Sep 10 16:21 localhost.rev -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1032 May 25 14:28 make-localhost -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 133 Sep 10 16:45 named.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2602 May 25 14:28 named.root drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Sep 10 16:57 prideindesign.com apollo# more named.conf options { directory "/etc/namedb"; zone "prideindesign.com"{ type master; file "prideindesign.com/prideindesign.com.rev"; }; zone "250.159.66.in-addr.arpa" { type master; file "prideindesign.com/250.159.66.in-addr.arpa.bak"; }; apollo# ll prideindesign.com/ total 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 649 Sep 14 06:58 250.159.66.in-addr.arpa -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 978 Sep 14 06:57 prideindesign.com.rev apollo# more 250.159.66.in-addr.arpa $TTL 3600 250.159.66.in-addr.arpa. IN SOA ns1.prideindesign.com. admin.prideindesign.com. ( 200409131 ; Serial 10800 ; Refresh 3600 ; Retry 604800 ; Expire 3600 ) ; Minimum @ IN NS ns1.prideindesign.com. @ IN NS ns2.prideindesign.com. 221 IN PTR ns1.prideindesign.com. 218 IN PTR ns2.prideindesign.com. 221 IN PTR mail.prideindesign.com. 221 IN PTR prideindesign.com. 221 IN PTR www.prideindesign.com. 221 IN PTR imap.prideindesign.com. apollo# more prideindesign.com.rev $TTL 3600 prideindesign.com. IN SOA ns1.prideindesign.com. admin.prideindesign.com. ( 2004091301 ; Serial 10800 ; Refresh 3600 ; Retry 604800 ; Expire 86400 ) ; Minimum TTL ; ; DNS Servers ; prideindesign.com. IN NS ns1.prideindesign.com. prideindesign.com. IN NS ns2.prideindesign.com. ; ; Machine Names ; localhost IN A 127.0.0.1 prideindesig.com. IN A 66.159.250.221 ns1.prideindesign.com. IN A 66.159.250.221 ns2.prideindesign.com. IN A 66.159.250.218 mail.prideindesign.com. IN A 66.159.250.221 ; ; Aliases ; www.prideindesign.com. IN CNAME prideindesign.com. imap.prideindesign.com. IN CNAME mail.prideindesign.com. smtp.prideindeign.com. IN CNAME mail.prideindesign.com. ; MX Record prideindesign.com. IN MX 10 mail.prideindesign.com. _______________________________________________ freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 19:10:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A2416A4E7 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:10:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 485E143D54 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:10:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sue@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (sue@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8HJAGt6036573 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:10:16 GMT (envelope-from sue@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8HJAFXT036560 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:10:15 GMT (envelope-from sue) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:10:15 GMT From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <200409171910.i8HJAFXT036560@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies FAK X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:10:25 -0000 FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. 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Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org is distributed to all members of the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 00:02:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A49716A4CE for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 00:02:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 368D643D4C for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 00:02:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robg.list@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 79so139073rnk for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 17:02:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.171.66 with SMTP id t66mr21209rne; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 17:02:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.83.59 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 17:02:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5c389d3b04091717026c45b109@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 20:02:14 -0400 From: robg To: f-questions , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: HTT on 4.10 not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: robg List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 00:02:19 -0000 Hi: Could someone tell me how to get hyperthreading on 4.10 working correctly? I have a P4 2.8GHz w/ HT enabled and `dmesg` shows: CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz (2795.24-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf33 Stepping = 3 Features=0xbfebfbff Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs real memory = 1065287680 (1040320K bytes) avail memory = 1031405568 (1007232K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0556000. Warning: Pentium 4 CPU: PSE disabled Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled but running `top` shows last pid: 7301; load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 up 0+21:36:00 20:01:56 22 processes: 2 running, 20 sleeping CPU states: 0.8% user, 0.0% nice, 2.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 97.3% idle Mem: 107M Active, 533M Inact, 91M Wired, 34M Cache, 111M Buf, 229M Free Swap: 2048M Total, 2048M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 7096 hlds 10 0 62508K 56596K RUN 2:15 1.07% 1.07% hlds_i686 so I don't think its being used, could someone tell me how to get it working in 4.10? Thank you -- robg robg.list@gmail.com