From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 14 00:18:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 575C016A4CE for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 00:18:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2CDA43D46 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 00:18:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shiretu@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so675319wri for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2004 16:18:38 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Vem0TlMo+EDb2Sl7IB5JhPbwsGOcg4lfbRknNSmrTZB/G6swnU99a63WOawi7DVTaOJe20iOxsR0Scr0uDeLActrRvKayOQEqTSSOMROqEM6Smp6pXbbd56O3+zbzvzl/yU2sPLKOcU041QkXwDBL14FkK7/vFNakws46yFfJt8= Received: by 10.54.1.66 with SMTP id 66mr156948wra; Sat, 13 Nov 2004 16:18:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.5.25 with HTTP; Sat, 13 Nov 2004 16:18:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 00:18:38 +0000 From: Eugen-Andrei Gavriloaie To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Installing the man pages X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eugen-Andrei Gavriloaie List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 00:18:39 -0000 Hi, Have one question... I recently installed freebsd. The installation was minimal except i added the ports collection. Done that because I wanted to be able to cvsupdate and after that be able to install software of my choice. The problem is i didn't install man pages, so if i issue "man ls" for example it won't work. A quick solution is to install man pages from the CD. But i wonder... Is it possible to install the man pages using the port collection? Tx -- Andrei Gavriloaie ____________________________________________ Programator e-Mail_ : shiretu@gmail.com Mobil___:+40722537658 From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 14 01:22:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73AC816A4CE for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 01:22:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gaff.hhhr.ision.net (gaff.hhhr.ision.net [195.180.9.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3550E43D41 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 01:22:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ohoyer@ohoyer.de) Received: from gaff.hhhr.ision.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gaff.hhhr.ision.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iAE1MNNe051306; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 02:22:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ohoyer@ohoyer.de) Received: from localhost (ohoyer@localhost)iAE1MMdG051303; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 02:22:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ohoyer@ohoyer.de) X-Authentication-Warning: gaff.hhhr.ision.net: ohoyer owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 02:22:22 +0100 (CET) From: Olaf Hoyer Sender: ohoyer@gaff.hhhr.ision.net To: Eugen-Andrei Gavriloaie In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20041114021815.W51246@gaff.hhhr.ision.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing the man pages X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 01:22:26 -0000 On Sun, 14 Nov 2004, Eugen-Andrei Gavriloaie wrote: > Hi, > Have one question... > > I recently installed freebsd. The installation was minimal except i > added the ports collection. Done that because I wanted to be able to > cvsupdate and after that be able to install software of my choice. The > problem is i didn't install man pages, so if i issue "man ls" for > example it won't work. A quick solution is to install man pages from > the CD. But i wonder... Is it possible to install the man pages using > the port collection? No, as ports deal only with extra programs, and not with part of the base system itself. System within the base are installes from CD, or when you upgrade the system using cvs(up), then they reside underneath /usr/src HTH Olaf -- Olaf Hoyer ohoyer@ohoyer.de Fuerchterliche Erlebniss geben zu raten, ob der, welcher sie erlebt, nicht etwas Fuerchterliches ist. (Nietzsche, Jenseits von Gut und Boese) From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 14 02:32:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5E8416A4CE for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 02:32:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F5BF43D3F for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 02:32:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sat, 13 Nov 2004 20:28:48 -0600 Message-ID: <4196C3BB.2000209@daleco.biz> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 20:32:27 -0600 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041023 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eugen-Andrei Gavriloaie References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Nov 2004 02:28:48.0640 (UTC) FILETIME=[AC30D800:01C4C9F1] cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing the man pages X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 02:32:23 -0000 Eugen-Andrei Gavriloaie wrote: >Hi, >Have one question... > >I recently installed freebsd. The installation was minimal except i >added the ports collection. Done that because I wanted to be able to >cvsupdate and after that be able to install software of my choice. The >problem is i didn't install man pages, so if i issue "man ls" for >example it won't work. A quick solution is to install man pages from >the CD. But i wonder... Is it possible to install the man pages using >the port collection? > >Tx > > You will have to either: a. grab the full sources via CVS, Cvsup, or CTM, then buildworld, etc. This is covered in much detail in the handbook; IIRC, the chapter is called "The Cutting Edge" .... In this instance, buildworld and installworld would suffice to install the man pages, but unless you are quite sure what you are doing, it would be best to do the whole routine. If by some chance you got source that wasn't the same as your installed system, then installing "world" with a kernel built from different sources could cause some problems. b. as root, while connected to the Internet, use sysinstall(8) as follows: choose 'Configure' choose 'Distributions' choose 'man' Hit "OK" ... Probably the second choice would be easier to accomplish. HTH, Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 14 07:58:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD8D16A53F; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 07:58:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [66.154.97.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6516043D2F; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 07:58:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE1425558; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 00:10:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nezlok.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 40235-07; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 00:10:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A5EEF5535; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 00:10:02 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20041114081002.A5EEF5535@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 00:10:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at unixathome.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2004-10-24 - 2004-11-13 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 07:58:17 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 14 14:34:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BDD316A4CE for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 14:34:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F14043D5C for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 14:34:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shiretu@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so116198wra for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 06:34:45 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=EFPWDRKCLFMyVE9JB5Hxwbf8tHk6nNr+idhRI4YZkEF2sK/IJ6au4YTwrM45zyazvVG+iINv3PAuHbBl+EJpwkSjf1xDwInpTMLeGLkU9L7hqRMQijnfbMoz431EkTEN/yHpC8SmOKBmXNsq2oM66mYjnEHjQMhpeThDmMiJQLM= Received: by 10.54.18.27 with SMTP id 27mr342418wrr; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 06:34:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.5.25 with HTTP; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 06:34:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 14:34:45 +0000 From: Eugen-Andrei Gavriloaie To: ohoyer@ohoyer.de In-Reply-To: <20041114120103.D3DC316A4D0@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041114120103.D3DC316A4D0@hub.freebsd.org> cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-newbies Digest, Vol 86, Issue 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eugen-Andrei Gavriloaie List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 14:34:46 -0000 > > Hi, > > Have one question... > > > > I recently installed freebsd. The installation was minimal except i > > added the ports collection. Done that because I wanted to be able to > > cvsupdate and after that be able to install software of my choice. The > > problem is i didn't install man pages, so if i issue "man ls" for > > example it won't work. A quick solution is to install man pages from > > the CD. But i wonder... Is it possible to install the man pages using > > the port collection? > > No, as ports deal only with extra programs, and not with part of the > base system itself. System within the base are installes from CD, or > when you upgrade the system using cvs(up), then they reside underneath > /usr/src > > HTH > Olaf > > -- > Olaf Hoyer ohoyer@ohoyer.de > Fuerchterliche Erlebniss geben zu raten, > ob der, welcher sie erlebt, nicht etwas Fuerchterliches ist. > (Nietzsche, Jenseits von Gut und Boese) I will try this sollution. It is the best IMHO From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 14 20:04:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B5116A4CE for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 20:04:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web11411.mail.yahoo.com (web11411.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7F47D43D2F for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 20:04:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gavriloaie_andrei@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 39916 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Nov 2004 20:04:56 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=sZXjCX7y+CDhqxJVB59xmobyxnsUpHkRPvWXgCUtgBjYxJqATbcrfOiyBu96EvLZozh0Y99UQH1czDXyzm+ULjQtPnH0utNlD+VxXdCIKw3npRinEtHgU0NsOLjC1Or47DS6QXIEdw18gWfVnz3hGpDkafCeOzI1I4rtpd/L0rE= ; Message-ID: <20041114200456.39914.qmail@web11411.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.85.0.66] by web11411.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 12:04:56 PST Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 12:04:56 -0800 (PST) From: Gavriloaie Andrei To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: can't open pseudo-tty X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 20:04:56 -0000 Hi, Have some problems starting rxvt, xterm etc... from X. The bottom line error is always this: "can't open pseudo-tty" Before compiling my kernel and build world all things worked fine. After that i keep receiving that error. Any idea why? Thank you __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 15 12:19:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DFC616A4CE for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 12:19:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ptb-relay03.plus.net (ptb-relay03.plus.net [212.159.14.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E92D43D1D for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 12:19:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gbentley@uk2.net) Received: from [81.174.174.115] (helo=custompc) by ptb-relay03.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1CTfpW-0001as-4E for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 12:19:34 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20041115122316.008217d0@mail.uk2.net> X-Preferences: Plain Text/No HTML X-Mailer: Interstat v2.0.9 Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 12:23:16 +0000 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: Graham Bentley In-Reply-To: <20041115120102.679B816A4D4@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: FreeBSD as Desktop X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 12:19:38 -0000 Hi All, I have just got 5.3 loaded on a desktop machine. This is a learning curve as I have a collegue who has an old Mac and I am trying to convert them over the the PC platform. I need to replicate some of the same applications and so far have :- XFCE4 as the WM / Desktop (does nice job of looking Mac like and seems prety bloat free :) The Gimp and QV for Graphics Abi Word for Docs (Don't really need full OO) Acrobat for PDF Firefox - Nice browser, seems quicker than NS but would be willing to try alternatives if you recommend it ? OK for email - what is the closest thing to KMail that doesnt require all the QT / K stuff to be loaded ? I have tried Mahogany and Mullberry but they both crash at certain points and seem a bit unstable. The emphasis is on smaller / lighter and dont really need calender like Evolution. Thunderbird seems a bit clunky. Would welcome suggestions :) Also, any apps that are not as obvious that may be usefull in an office environment - thanks for suggestions. Graham Custom PC North West Open Source Solutions http://www.cpcnw.co.uk From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 15 13:05:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 686DC16A4D1 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 13:05:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail9.messagelabs.com (mail9.messagelabs.com [194.205.110.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1B0C443D39 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 13:05:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Michael.Walker2@capita.co.uk) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: Michael.Walker2@capita.co.uk X-Msg-Ref: server-34.tower-9.messagelabs.com!1100523938!13918212!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.4.2; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [193.130.89.132] Received: (qmail 4794 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2004 13:05:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ems-capmime.enterprise.capita.zone) (193.130.89.132) by server-34.tower-9.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 15 Nov 2004 13:05:38 -0000 Received: from capitawemnt07.central.ad.capita.co.uk (unverified) by ems-capmime.enterprise.capita.zone ; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 13:05:43 +0000 Received: by capitawemnt07.central.ad.capita.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 13:03:24 -0000 Message-ID: From: "Walker, Michael" To: Graham Bentley , "FreeBSD-Newbies (E-mail)" Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 13:05:32 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: RE: FreeBSD as Desktop X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 13:05:42 -0000 > OK for email - what is the closest thing to KMail that > doesnt require all the QT / K stuff to be loaded ? I have > tried Mahogany and Mullberry but they both crash at > certain points and seem a bit unstable. The emphasis > is on smaller / lighter and dont really need calender > like Evolution. Thunderbird seems a bit clunky. Would > welcome suggestions :) > > Also, any apps that are not as obvious that may be > usefull in an office environment - thanks for suggestions. > > Graham I have personally never used KMail, but for a lightweight console client try mutt or pine. Pine AFAIK has had some serious security issues in the past, but I am not aware of its current state in regard to security. And I have never had any issues with mutt. HTH Mick Walker ********************************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may be subject to legal privilege, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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The Capita Group and its subsidiaries accept no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. *********************************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 15 13:51:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6394816A4CE for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 13:51:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91.asp.att.net [204.127.203.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7FA743D54 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 13:51:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from radioguy@uni.edu) Received: from rei.dave.cedar-falls.ia.us (12-219-24-19.client.mchsi.com[12.219.24.19]) by sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91) with SMTP id <20041115135128m9100ce24be>; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 13:51:28 +0000 Received: by rei.dave.cedar-falls.ia.us (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 15 Nov 2004 07:56:03 -0600 Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 07:56:03 -0600 From: Dave Vollenweider To: Graham Bentley Message-ID: <20041115135603.GA19308@rei.dave.cedar-falls.ia.us> References: <20041115120102.679B816A4D4@hub.freebsd.org> <3.0.6.32.20041115122316.008217d0@mail.uk2.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20041115122316.008217d0@mail.uk2.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD as Desktop X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 13:51:30 -0000 You might want to give Sylpheed a try. I've been using that one for months and never had a problem with it. It's lightweight yet provides most if not all the features of other GUI email clients. If you insist on making it look the same as everything else, i.e. using GTK2 instead of GTK1, go with the sylpheed-gtk2 port. That's what I'm using and I haven't had any problems with it. - Dave V. On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 12:23:16PM +0000, Graham Bentley wrote: > > Hi All, > > I have just got 5.3 loaded on a desktop machine. > > This is a learning curve as I have a collegue who > has an old Mac and I am trying to convert them > over the the PC platform. > > I need to replicate some of the same applications > and so far have :- > > XFCE4 as the WM / Desktop (does nice job of looking > Mac like and seems prety bloat free :) > > The Gimp and QV for Graphics > > Abi Word for Docs (Don't really need full OO) > > Acrobat for PDF > > Firefox - Nice browser, seems quicker than NS but > would be willing to try alternatives if you recommend > it ? > > OK for email - what is the closest thing to KMail that > doesnt require all the QT / K stuff to be loaded ? I have > tried Mahogany and Mullberry but they both crash at > certain points and seem a bit unstable. The emphasis > is on smaller / lighter and dont really need calender > like Evolution. Thunderbird seems a bit clunky. Would > welcome suggestions :) > > Also, any apps that are not as obvious that may be > usefull in an office environment - thanks for suggestions. > > Graham > > > > > > > > > Custom PC North West > Open Source Solutions > http://www.cpcnw.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 15 13:51:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D2C16A4CE for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 13:51:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from net.netophilia.net (ns.netophilia.net [66.96.216.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6417B43D45 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 13:51:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd-lists@netophilia.net) Received: by net.netophilia.net (Postfix, from userid 1005) id 7D6951159E; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 08:51:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 08:51:47 -0500 From: Dan Kilbourne To: Graham Bentley Message-ID: <20041115135147.GA56063@netophilia.net> References: <20041115120102.679B816A4D4@hub.freebsd.org> <3.0.6.32.20041115122316.008217d0@mail.uk2.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20041115122316.008217d0@mail.uk2.net> Organization: netophilia.net Visit: http://netophilia.net User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD as Desktop X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 13:51:49 -0000 Graham Bentley extolled: > > OK for email - what is the closest thing to KMail that > doesnt require all the QT / K stuff to be loaded ? I have > tried Mahogany and Mullberry but they both crash at > certain points and seem a bit unstable. The emphasis > is on smaller / lighter and dont really need calender > like Evolution. Thunderbird seems a bit clunky. Would > welcome suggestions :) > > Also, any apps that are not as obvious that may be > usefull in an office environment - thanks for suggestions. > > Graham > If you are looking for a lightweight mail app, I recommend either sylpheed (http://sylpheed.good-day.net/) or balsa (http://balsa.gnome.org/ - depends on gnome though). I used to use them when I would attempt to use a gui mailer - usually lasted about 24 hours before I was back with mutt :) As for other apps, it really depends on your needs. Most people seem to really like gaim (http://gaim.sourceforge.net/), xmms (http://www.xmms.org), although those are not so much about productivity. I personally use mostly console apps, such as mp3blaster and naim, so I cannot offer much more. -- ___ Dan From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 15 16:18:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A7BD16A4CE for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 16:18:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bwmail.corp.baxwood.com (mail1.baxwood.com [209.172.184.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930F343D45 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 16:18:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tsullivan@baxterwoodman.com) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 10:19:52 -0600 Message-ID: <8568FFD8B2D518499160B43B382844C938DD71@bwmail.corp.baxwood.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: ssh/tcp: bind: Address already in use Thread-Index: AcTJVHWIM0vsRxahRu25tASthFX+BwB2kwqw From: "Trevor B. Sullivan" To: "Charles.Tips.[ceo].SilentCircuit" , Subject: RE: ssh/tcp: bind: Address already in use X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 16:18:01 -0000 I'm having this same problem with the same version of FreeBSD(5.2.1). I only noticed it after I enabled the sshd daemon. I haven't modified much of anything, so I don't see how I could have caused this...would be happy if someone had a solution. :-) Trevor -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Charles.Tips.[ceo].SilentCircuit Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 1:38 AM To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: ssh/tcp: bind: Address already in use var/log/messages has this every 10 minutes. Is it because sshd might be running out of inetd? If so what would be the solution to this? Thank you for any help. I am running freeBSD 5.2.1 p10 .Charlie _______________________________________________ freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 15 19:18:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 974A716A4CE for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 19:18:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3635C43D5A for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 19:18:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from madtux@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so310519wra for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 11:18:42 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=m08FP/5mGNST/PkP/mI/AVVeRo7hSSfit/e04aYUbNMELJMwLjHTbahM54+2dODfyVJc4Mn+5UzfEMrM9t0IEie+nc9mDvYFNxoNpiWWmREW31iN+TA51W0RRcl1yAjIpk9ATDb41LREnHo/tvj0wfA6H9JsL6iRvDBOCCAF774= Received: by 10.54.43.44 with SMTP id q44mr199114wrq; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 11:18:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.29.23 with HTTP; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 11:18:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6ddb7bf804111511184434cbb9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 14:18:42 -0500 From: Kevin Reiter To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20041115135147.GA56063@netophilia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041115120102.679B816A4D4@hub.freebsd.org> <3.0.6.32.20041115122316.008217d0@mail.uk2.net> <20041115135147.GA56063@netophilia.net> Subject: Re: FreeBSD as Desktop X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Kevin Reiter List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 19:18:43 -0000 Sylpheed+claws has been working fine for me for a few years now (Linux/FreeBSD/Win32) and it works with both my POP accounts as well as my IMAP accounts. Sourceforge I believe hosts both sylpheed and sylpheed+claws. -Kevin -- A PC without Windows is like a cup of coffee without ketchup. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 15 20:59:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9115A16A4CE for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 20:59:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B5D643D41 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 20:59:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 15 Nov 2004 14:56:21 -0600 Message-ID: <419918D2.7030503@daleco.biz> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 15:00:02 -0600 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041023 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Trevor B. Sullivan" References: <8568FFD8B2D518499160B43B382844C938DD71@bwmail.corp.baxwood.com> In-Reply-To: <8568FFD8B2D518499160B43B382844C938DD71@bwmail.corp.baxwood.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Nov 2004 20:56:21.0843 (UTC) FILETIME=[8FCCAA30:01C4CB55] cc: "Charles.Tips.\[ceo\].SilentCircuit" cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh/tcp: bind: Address already in use X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 20:59:55 -0000 Charles.Tips wrote: >> var/log/messages has this every 10 minutes. Is it because sshd might be >> running out of inetd? If so what would be the solution to this? Thank >> you for any help. I am running freeBSD 5.2.1 p10 >> >> .Charlie > > { At this point I include the standard newbies@ disclaimer that the subject is better suited for the questions@ list .... } Trevor B. Sullivan wrote: > I'm having this same problem with the same version of FreeBSD(5.2.1). I > only noticed it after I enabled the sshd daemon. I haven't modified much > of anything, so I don't see how I could have caused this...would be > happy if someone had a solution. :-) > > Trevor Hmm, are you running sshd from inetd as well? sshd(8) is enabled by adding: sshd_enable="YES" to /etc/rc.conf. It is started at bootup and it seems likely that running it from inetd as well would cause an error message such as the one(s) you are describing. Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 16 20:31:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A768316A4D0 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 20:31:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.100.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5877D43D53 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 20:31:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.cis.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id iAGKVG46043040 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:31:19 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <200411162031.iAGKVG46043040@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:31:16 -0600 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Putting a Bell Character in the CSH Prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 20:31:19 -0000 I am not exactly a newby to FreeBSD, but this is certainly a newby question in that I am not sure where to look for the answer. I want the prompt string in the .cshrc file to contain a Bell or ASCII 7 character. Normally, this is no problem. If one is using the C-shell, a prompt string like set prompt="\a\!# " I am using a VT100 emulator and it can certainly receive bells. If I type a CTRL-G on the keyboard, I hear a beep. It is only when I receive the prompt string that it is not a bell but ^G. If I use the bash shell, I get a bell. What might be effecting the C-shell's output in this way? From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 17 09:47:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B60916A4CE for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:47:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay101-f14.bay101.hotmail.com [64.4.56.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2956743D2F for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:47:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from moh_bana@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 01:47:01 -0800 Received: from 172.140.107.85 by by101fd.bay101.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:47:00 GMT X-Originating-IP: [172.140.107.85] X-Originating-Email: [moh_bana@hotmail.com] X-Sender: moh_bana@hotmail.com From: "Moh Bana" To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:47:00 +0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Nov 2004 09:47:01.0343 (UTC) FILETIME=[631A2EF0:01C4CC8A] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: CD's ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:47:10 -0000 Which cd is just required to install Freebsd ... i downloaded the 5.3 iso's, their seems to be some confusion their 4 cd's? 2 ISO's ranging from 600mb + and one boot cd that is 20-30mb Is the freebsd with X .... that big? From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 17 11:43:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9586D16A4CE for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 11:43:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sneezy.bossbox.com (sneezy.bossbox.com [83.245.10.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB97743D2D for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 11:43:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brian@sneezy.bossbox.com) Received: from [83.245.10.35] (emboss.office.bossbox.com [83.245.10.35]) by sneezy.bossbox.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iAHBWcmn061002; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 11:32:38 GMT (envelope-from brian@sneezy.bossbox.com) Message-ID: <419B38C3.6070103@sneezy.bossbox.com> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 11:40:51 +0000 From: Brian User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Moh Bana References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on sneezy.bossbox.com cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CD's ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 11:43:02 -0000 Moh Bana wrote: > Which cd is just required to install Freebsd ... i downloaded the 5.3 > iso's, their seems to be some confusion their 4 cd's? > > 2 ISO's ranging from 600mb + > and one boot cd that is 20-30mb > > > Is the freebsd with X .... that big? Everything depends on what you wish to install and how you wish to do it. If you look at the mail archives this question has been answered recently with details of every iso. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 17 13:31:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E892716A4D0 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 13:31:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mg5.xecu.net (mg5.xecu.net [216.127.136.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E6743D58 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 13:31:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@onlineworksolutions.com) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mg5.xecu.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93FE542A7C2 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 08:31:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mg5.xecu.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mg5.xecu.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 42903-01 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 08:31:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from sam (unknown [216.127.150.230]) by mg5.xecu.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 5F53242A7DB for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 08:31:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <012d01c4cca9$c8b215b0$0100a8c0@sam> From: "Martin Gross Onlineworksolutions.com" To: Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 08:29:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at xecu.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: usb ethernet adapters X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 13:31:53 -0000 Hi, I'm loading up Freebsd 5.0 on a laptop, Toshiba Tecra 8100, and was = going to use the USB, and a USB Ethernet Adapter, Linksys USB 20, to = network to my gateway box. Anybody ever done this, I think I need a = driver, Freebsd is not recognizing the USB Ethernet Adapter. Thanks so = much for your thoughts? Martin Gross From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 17 14:58:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB6316A4CE for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 14:58:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from in.flite.net (in.flite.net [207.203.36.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84CDA43D1F for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 14:58:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hide110@us-it.net) Received: from mail.us-it.net (web1.webave.net [207.203.36.9] (may be forged)) by in.flite.net (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with SMTP id iAHEw76T041049 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:58:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from hide110@us-it.net) Message-Id: <200411171458.iAHEw76T041049@in.flite.net> From: "hide110" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:58:06 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: US-IT Webmail / v1.0 Subject: How to join a Windows NT domain? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 14:58:09 -0000 Hi, at the company I work for, it is virtually an all Windows environment. I have been running FreeBSD 5.3 on my desktop and was curious as to how to join a domain so I may access other pcs, printers etc? If you could please explain or point me to some good documentation for this I would be more than obliged. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 17 15:02:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4A116A4CE for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 15:02:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fidel.freesurf.fr (fidel.freesurf.fr [212.43.206.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8591F43D4C for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 15:02:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olivier@gautherot.net) Received: from freesurf.fr (jose.freesurf.fr [212.43.206.13]) by fidel.freesurf.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 8AD602A5CA9; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:02:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from 194.98.178.34 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ogautherot) by jose.freesurf.fr with HTTP; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:02:20 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <35717.194.98.178.34.1100703740.squirrel@jose.freesurf.fr> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:02:20 +0100 (CET) From: "Olivier Gautherot" To: X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <012d01c4cca9$c8b215b0$0100a8c0@sam> References: <012d01c4cca9$c8b215b0$0100a8c0@sam> Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.5) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: usb ethernet adapters X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: olivier@gautherot.net List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 15:02:22 -0000 Hi Martin! If I may ask, is there any good reason to choose release 5.0 right now? It is out dated and release 5.3 is out and working - with a wider range of supported devices. If you're not too far into the installation and can start all over, I would recommend the upgrade. Cheers Olivier > Hi, > > I'm loading up Freebsd 5.0 on a laptop, Toshiba Tecra 8100, and was > going to use the USB, and a USB Ethernet Adapter, Linksys USB 20, to > network to my gateway box. Anybody ever done this, I think I need a > driver, Freebsd is not recognizing the USB Ethernet Adapter. Thanks so > much for your thoughts? > > Martin Gross > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 17 15:05:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 275C516A4CE for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 15:05:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fidel.freesurf.fr (fidel.freesurf.fr [212.43.206.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E190A43D4C for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 15:05:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olivier@gautherot.net) Received: from freesurf.fr (jose.freesurf.fr [212.43.206.13]) by fidel.freesurf.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 4378A2A5E86; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:05:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from 194.98.178.34 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ogautherot) by jose.freesurf.fr with HTTP; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:05:13 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <35991.194.98.178.34.1100703913.squirrel@jose.freesurf.fr> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:05:13 +0100 (CET) From: "Olivier Gautherot" To: X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <200411171458.iAHEw76T041049@in.flite.net> References: <200411171458.iAHEw76T041049@in.flite.net> Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.5) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to join a Windows NT domain? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: olivier@gautherot.net List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 15:05:14 -0000 Hi! > Hi, at the company I work for, it is virtually an all Windows > environment. I have been running FreeBSD 5.3 on my desktop and was > curious as to how to join a domain so I may access other pcs, printers > etc? If you could please explain or point me to some good > documentation for this I would be more than obliged. Sounds like Samba is there for you. Make sure you get the doc as it can be a bit tedious. I just hope you don't have too many WinXP machines around: they tend to be relunctant to talk to anyone but Microsoft counterparts... Hope it helps Olivier From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 17 16:38:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C82A216A4CE for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:38:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7094D43D1D for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:38:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from geekout@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id b11so935398rne for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 08:38:35 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=macFfOGeZCbLevQmmuhLvpYDprTmhcztfgfiWrKpTM9CmHLtT+hc7Q67dyRTfrVUYLsp8RkfLtyE8LE5wWi5JEVPusmTtsDE02dlSo6MZ+x4WNDzjWgVXEsH1t50Gv9Jmp2OiEmP26jFDnud26Dr2gsmPBinqDhNHX1hA1TM298= Received: by 10.38.125.40 with SMTP id x40mr1054101rnc; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 08:38:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.72.54 with HTTP; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 08:38:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6e01203b0411170838f37436c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:38:35 -0700 From: Tyler Gee To: olivier@gautherot.net In-Reply-To: <35991.194.98.178.34.1100703913.squirrel@jose.freesurf.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200411171458.iAHEw76T041049@in.flite.net> <35991.194.98.178.34.1100703913.squirrel@jose.freesurf.fr> cc: hide110@us-it.net cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to join a Windows NT domain? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Tyler Gee List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:38:36 -0000 Also check out sharity-light (-lite?) in the ports, it is a very simple way to connect that doesn't offer as many features as Samba, but if all you need is to open a directory and copy a file it should work. -wtgee On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:05:13 +0100 (CET), Olivier Gautherot wrote: > Hi! > > > Hi, at the company I work for, it is virtually an all Windows > > environment. I have been running FreeBSD 5.3 on my desktop and was > > curious as to how to join a domain so I may access other pcs, printers > > etc? If you could please explain or point me to some good > > documentation for this I would be more than obliged. > > Sounds like Samba is there for you. Make sure you get the doc as it can be > a bit tedious. I just hope you don't have too many WinXP machines around: > they tend to be relunctant to talk to anyone but Microsoft counterparts... > > Hope it helps > Olivier > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 17 16:45:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA40216A4CE for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:45:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21A3143D2D for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:45:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:45:11 -0600 Message-ID: <419B801B.8060003@daleco.biz> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:45:15 -0600 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041023 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Moh Bana References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Nov 2004 16:45:11.0997 (UTC) FILETIME=[CE4C26D0:01C4CCC4] cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CD's ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:45:09 -0000 Moh Bana wrote: > Which cd is just required to install Freebsd ... i downloaded the 5.3 > iso's, their seems to be some confusion their 4 cd's? > > 2 ISO's ranging from 600mb + > and one boot cd that is 20-30mb > > > Is the freebsd with X .... that big? > > Probably not. FreeBSD without X might be 400MB+. That said, it really depends on a lot of factors, since FBSD is so customizable. Before I go on, two disclaimers. 1] newbies@ isn't a place for technicalquestions, and 2] I don't use the ISO's myself.... Now, to debug those, 1] maybe your ?? isn't so technical, and 2] the naming scheme of the ISO's isn't that hard. Bootonly is what it says. A bootable CDROM with the installer, and maybe some other stuff; but you'll need to be ready to grab the code from another source (like via FTP). "miniinst" is a CD that gets you the "minimum" installation of FreeBSD; what's called "the base system". No GUI; nothing that's not maintained by the Project itself. You could make an SMTP server with it, an FTP server, NTP server, a shell server, or ... well, you can't do much else that I can think of*, but the point is, it's FreeBSD, the system is operable, and you can add just about anything you want from there. The CD contains the installer, the binaries and manpages, crypto, contributed (GNU and other) software (including the compiler), in short, everything that's maintained by the Project itself (i.e., nothing from the ports tree). Also, no documentation except the aforementioned manual pages. "Disc 1" and "Disc 2" contain enough to get you going pretty big time. In addition to the "base system", you can expect full source code tree, the full ports tree, and enough tarballs in /usr/ports/distfiles to build X, a bunch of window managers and DE's, servers of every description, a number of programming languages, system utilities, networking tools, games, etc., etc. HTH, Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. *FreeBSD maintains Sendmail, NTP, OpenSSH, and FTPD in the source tree, along with a bunch of other stuff. If you know much about 'Nix-like OSes, you can get going with a minimum install. I don't know of anyone who uses a minimum install only ... hmm, unless it's for one of the aforementioned, or a gateway, or a router, or a firewall .. which I seem to have forgotten in the above. In short, the reason there's 4 CD's is because there's a lot of flexibility in FBSD ... and probably, the reason there aren't more is because you've gotta keep things simple somehow ... From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 17 17:02:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 752CB16A4CE for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 17:02:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10EE643D41 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 17:02:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from geekout@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id b11so937997rne for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:02:18 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=DfjOlR6eKsHJMxO0HCCt0vC+LbZjmFGe63vsWLY5monywp+fxemNI1punPWnHLrNKCXvsvrhklxq45RWZN+5S8gUIIxZVg0G8Rn3p7sHajBxD1fImnTL0YCm70WCqns/HEQioPverGzzWMQLbDgA70my8Gn8Bn5rjFe7kQSCCQs= Received: by 10.38.81.30 with SMTP id e30mr576350rnb; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:02:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.72.54 with HTTP; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:02:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6e01203b04111709026b1f1ad@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:02:17 -0700 From: Tyler Gee To: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." In-Reply-To: <419B801B.8060003@daleco.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <419B801B.8060003@daleco.biz> cc: Moh Bana cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CD's ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Tyler Gee List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 17:02:19 -0000 I tend to install based off of the mini disc, harden the system, then cvsup and start pulling in and installing everything else. Also, I think if you are going to be installing -current, you might as well do the boot only disc and then do and FTP install, that way you are actually getting the most current -current. If you are doing a stable install you might want to just get disc1 and disc2 -wtgee On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:45:15 -0600, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote: > Moh Bana wrote: > > > Which cd is just required to install Freebsd ... i downloaded the 5.3 > > iso's, their seems to be some confusion their 4 cd's? > > > > 2 ISO's ranging from 600mb + > > and one boot cd that is 20-30mb > > > > > > Is the freebsd with X .... that big? > > > > > > Probably not. FreeBSD without X might be 400MB+. That > said, it really depends on a lot of factors, since FBSD is > so customizable. > > Before I go on, two disclaimers. 1] newbies@ isn't > a place for technicalquestions, and 2] I don't use the > ISO's myself.... > > Now, to debug those, 1] maybe your ?? isn't so technical, and > 2] the naming scheme of the ISO's isn't that hard. > > Bootonly is what it says. A bootable CDROM with the installer, > and maybe some other stuff; but you'll need to be ready to > grab the code from another source (like via FTP). > > "miniinst" is a CD that gets you the "minimum" installation of > FreeBSD; what's called "the base system". No GUI; nothing > that's not maintained by the Project itself. You could make > an SMTP server with it, an FTP server, NTP server, a shell server, > or ... well, you can't do much else that I can think of*, but the > point is, it's FreeBSD, the system is operable, and you can add > just about anything you want from there. The CD contains the > installer, the binaries and manpages, crypto, contributed (GNU > and other) software (including the compiler), in short, everything > that's maintained by the Project itself (i.e., nothing from the ports > tree). Also, no documentation except the aforementioned manual > pages. > > "Disc 1" and "Disc 2" contain enough to get you going pretty big time. > In addition to the "base system", you can expect full source code tree, > the full ports tree, and enough tarballs in /usr/ports/distfiles to build > X, a bunch of window managers and DE's, servers of every description, > a number of programming languages, system utilities, networking tools, > games, etc., etc. > > HTH, > > Kevin Kinsey > DaleCo, S.P. > > *FreeBSD maintains Sendmail, NTP, OpenSSH, and FTPD in > the source tree, along with a bunch of other stuff. If you know > much about 'Nix-like OSes, you can get going with a minimum > install. I don't know of anyone who uses a minimum install only ... > hmm, unless it's for one of the aforementioned, or a gateway, > or a router, or a firewall .. which I seem to have forgotten in the > above. In short, the reason there's 4 CD's is because there's > a lot of flexibility in FBSD ... and probably, the reason there > aren't more is because you've gotta keep things simple > somehow ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 17 18:02:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B611E16A4CE for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 18:02:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E0543D3F for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 18:02:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from geekout@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id b11so944011rne for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:02:53 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=LvFt3VjYti2jAhlcoY9fUWISkCDxCOr1QFHjjUJnRZ9O9PoN16uh81L+CtnAdOMjshv5YSO35RciQ0cZCxbd602UmDNI2crB7AHg8y/4NWwSHysGEkTuS6D8ZVijPee7s4SmW5ZSw2rPQfXXDDnTOEJ71E2tnIZBjyrq8VaxGhg= Received: by 10.38.68.47 with SMTP id q47mr384535rna; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:02:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.72.54 with HTTP; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:02:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6e01203b0411171002737cff49@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 11:02:53 -0700 From: Tyler Gee To: Moh Bana , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: Subject: Re: CD's ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Tyler Gee List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 18:02:54 -0000 http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&c2coff=1&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=md5sum+windows&btnG=Search I have never downloaded from a BitTorrent so I am not sure how that would change things. I wouldn't inherently trust it because that means it is not coming from an official source and someone could basically be planting a security hole in your distribution that you would never find. -wtgee On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 17:54:59 +0000, Moh Bana wrote: > > > > > How do i check if the dowloaded files are not corrupt .... Theirs a file > called > CHECKSUM.MD5 how i verify this with Wndows. > > Thanks alot. If i downloaded the files from Bit torrent would the checksums > be different thus causing an error? e.g i donwloaded Disc1 from FTP server > and 2 from Bit torrent. > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: Tyler Gee > Reply-To: Tyler Gee > To: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." > CC: Moh Bana , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: CD's ? > Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:02:17 -0700 > > > > I tend to install based off of the mini disc, harden the system, then > cvsup and start pulling in and installing everything else. > > Also, I think if you are going to be installing -current, you might as > well do the boot only disc and then do and FTP install, that way you > are actually getting the most current -current. If you are doing a > stable install you might want to just get disc1 and disc2 > > -wtgee > > > On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:45:15 -0600, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. > wrote: > > Moh Bana wrote: > > > > > Which cd is just required to install Freebsd ... i downloaded the 5.3 > > > iso's, their seems to be some confusion their 4 cd's? > > > > > > 2 ISO's ranging from 600mb + > > > and one boot cd that is 20-30mb > > > > > > > > > Is the freebsd with X .... that big? > > > > > > > > > > Probably not. FreeBSD without X might be 400MB+. That > > said, it really depends on a lot of factors, since FBSD is > > so customizable. > > > > Before I go on, two disclaimers. 1] newbies@ isn't > > a place for technicalquestions, and 2] I don't use the > > ISO's myself.... > > > > Now, to debug those, 1] maybe your ?? isn't so technical, and > > 2] the naming scheme of the ISO's isn't that hard. > > > > Bootonly is what it says. A bootable CDROM with the installer, > > and maybe some other stuff; but you'll need to be ready to > > grab the code from another source (like via FTP). > > > > "miniinst" is a CD that gets you the "minimum" installation of > > FreeBSD; what's called "the base system". No GUI; nothing > > that's not maintained by the Project itself. You could make > > an SMTP server with it, an FTP server, NTP server, a shell server, > > or ... well, you can't do much else that I can think of*, but the > > point is, it's FreeBSD, the system is operable, and you can add > > just about anything you want from there. The CD contains the > > installer, the binaries and manpages, crypto, contributed (GNU > > and other) software (including the compiler), in short, everything > > that's maintained by the Project itself (i.e., nothing from the ports > > tree). Also, no documentation except the aforementioned manual > > pages. > > > > "Disc 1" and "Disc 2" contain enough to get you going pretty big time. > > In addition to the "base system", you can expect full source code tree, > > the full ports tree, and enough tarballs in /usr/ports/distfiles to build > > X, a bunch of window managers and DE's, servers of every description, > > a number of programming languages, system utilities, networking tools, > > games, etc., etc. > > > > HTH, > > > > Kevin Kinsey > > DaleCo, S.P. > > > > *FreeBSD maintains Sendmail, NTP, OpenSSH, and FTPD in > > the source tree, along with a bunch of other stuff. If you know > > much about 'Nix-like OSes, you can get going with a minimum > > install. I don't know of anyone who uses a minimum install only ... > > hmm, unless it's for one of the aforementioned, or a gateway, > > or a router, or a firewall .. which I seem to have forgotten in the > > above. In short, the reason there's 4 CD's is because there's > > a lot of flexibility in FBSD ... and probably, the reason there > > aren't more is because you've gotta keep things simple > > somehow ... > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 17 22:38:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 695B916A4EA for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 22:38:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay10-dav19.bay10.hotmail.com [64.4.37.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39C3443D2D for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 22:38:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kenzo_chin@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 14:38:01 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 12.28.96.114 by BAY10-DAV19.phx.gbl with DAV; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 22:37:35 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [12.28.96.114] X-Originating-Email: [kenzo_chin@hotmail.com] X-Sender: kenzo_chin@hotmail.com From: "Kenzo" To: "Tyler Gee" , References: <200411171458.iAHEw76T041049@in.flite.net> <35991.194.98.178.34.1100703913.squirrel@jose.freesurf.fr> <6e01203b0411170838f37436c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:35:41 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Nov 2004 22:38:01.0824 (UTC) FILETIME=[187F6600:01C4CCF6] cc: hide110@us-it.net cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to join a Windows NT domain? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 22:38:02 -0000 If you're into gui try LinNeighborhood http://www.bnro.de/~schmidjo/index.html It should also be in the ports. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tyler Gee" To: Cc: ; Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:38 AM Subject: Re: How to join a Windows NT domain? > Also check out sharity-light (-lite?) in the ports, it is a very > simple way to connect that doesn't offer as many features as Samba, > but if all you need is to open a directory and copy a file it should > work. > > -wtgee > > > On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:05:13 +0100 (CET), Olivier Gautherot > wrote: > > Hi! > > > > > Hi, at the company I work for, it is virtually an all Windows > > > environment. I have been running FreeBSD 5.3 on my desktop and was > > > curious as to how to join a domain so I may access other pcs, printers > > > etc? If you could please explain or point me to some good > > > documentation for this I would be more than obliged. > > > > Sounds like Samba is there for you. Make sure you get the doc as it can be > > a bit tedious. I just hope you don't have too many WinXP machines around: > > they tend to be relunctant to talk to anyone but Microsoft counterparts... > > > > Hope it helps > > Olivier > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 19 19:10:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BE4A16A4CF for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 19:10:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5428C43D1D for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 19:10:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sue@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (sue@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iAJJASwi018595 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 19:10:28 GMT (envelope-from sue@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id iAJJARQA018566 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 19:10:27 GMT (envelope-from sue) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 19:10:27 GMT From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <200411191910.iAJJARQA018566@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies FAK X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 19:10:28 -0000 FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://people.freebsd.org/~sue/newbies/fak.html FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. It is particularly important to send all installation questions and answers to FreeBSD-Questions so that they only appear in one place. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for FreeBSD help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. We can help people to use the FreeBSD mailing lists and resources, or to interact more productively with the broader FreeBSD community. These are not support questions, and not technical, so we deal with them here. Everyone can help with these new user orientation requests. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ Mailing list membership To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Use the easy form at http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies to subscribe to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list, or to change your subscription details if you are already a member. To Unsubscribe from FreeBSD-Newbies: To stop receiving list emails, simply follow the unsubscribe link that appears at the bottom of each email you receive from the mailing list. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org is distributed to all members of the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 19 23:56:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B2416A4CE for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 23:56:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ganzman.no-ip.org (cable-181-97.inter.net.il [80.230.181.97]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B480743D31 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 23:56:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ganzman@ganzman.no-ip.org) Received: from [192.168.100.230] (HELO localhost) by ganzman.no-ip.org (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.5) with SMTP id 1820043 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 23:54:04 -0500 Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 20:49:13 +0200 From: Ron Ganzer To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20041119204913.44e1bebc@localhost> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12b (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.10) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ed2k traffic is causing network problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 23:56:49 -0000 *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* hi all, i use aMule 1.2.8 . and my users use various ed2k clients. it has come to the point where ed2k traffic is blocking EVERITHING and causing my connection to be swaped. i need a simple way to limit the ed2k traffic (down&up) either by firewall or by any other mean thanks Ron Ganzer From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 20 01:17:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE46916A4CE for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 01:17:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6698F43D1F for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 01:17:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from geekout@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so95154wra for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 17:17:35 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=galUNZPQx35iTMBhedPlklmH9XIZ6Bd0xPnLBlggnHoA7Pz92DYksxY/IrY0W79FVzp8iakz7VtOU2dXhgBC0MGIbZwTLzTpaTcqdb0GhlkXxHjpuocNxksEevzlAU9saNiN9Ps3M11tst+BHxPJDNxR7qhNYqDyjAkHPF5uteE= Received: by 10.54.29.38 with SMTP id c38mr1417440wrc; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 17:17:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.46.37 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 17:17:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6e01203b041119171768ae28a2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 18:17:34 -0700 From: Tyler Gee To: Ron Ganzer In-Reply-To: <20041119204913.44e1bebc@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041119204913.44e1bebc@localhost> cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ed2k traffic is causing network problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Tyler Gee List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 01:17:35 -0000 Check out pf [1], specifically Load Balancing [2]. That is the OpenBSD page (they wrote it) but it has been ported to FreeBSD [1] http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/ [2] http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/pools.html -wtgee On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 20:49:13 +0200, Ron Ganzer wrote: > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* > hi all, > > i use aMule 1.2.8 . > and my users use various ed2k clients. > it has come to the point where ed2k traffic is blocking EVERITHING and causing my connection to be swaped. > > i need a simple way to limit the ed2k traffic (down&up) > either by firewall or by any other mean > > thanks > Ron Ganzer > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 20 11:18:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D15BF16A4CE for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 11:18:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp812.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp812.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3F5DD43D31 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 11:18:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) (krinklyfig@pacbell.net@64.173.25.106 with plain) by smtp812.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Nov 2004 11:18:50 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, Tyler Gee Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 03:18:50 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 References: <6e01203b0411171002737cff49@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6e01203b0411171002737cff49@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200411200318.51186.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: Moh Bana Subject: Re: CD's ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: krinklyfig@spymac.com List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 11:18:51 -0000 On Wednesday 17 November 2004 10:02 am, Tyler Gee wrote: > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&c2coff=1&client=firefox-a&r >ls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=md5sum+windows&btnG=Search > > I have never downloaded from a BitTorrent so I am not sure how that > would change things. I wouldn't inherently trust it because that > means it is not coming from an official source and someone could > basically be planting a security hole in your distribution that you > would never find. Well, the way it works is files are divided into pieces, and each is hash checked (depends on the client, but most do this) - clients act concurrently as servers even as a file is being downloaded, as chunks of the file become available. I suppose it's possible to beat the hash checking, but it's fairly trivial to verify the files with a good degree of certainty once they're done. The torrents themselves are hosted on a core developer's page on the fbsd site. I have downloaded all the 386 ISOs to help seed them and take part in this (even though I updated through cvsup from 5.2.1 through all the betas to 5.3), as it does lessen the strain on the mirrors - plus, I'm not really a programmer, so I want to do something to help out. - jt > > -wtgee > > On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 17:54:59 +0000, Moh Bana wrote: > > How do i check if the dowloaded files are not corrupt .... Theirs a file > > called > > CHECKSUM.MD5 how i verify this with Wndows. > > > > Thanks alot. If i downloaded the files from Bit torrent would the > > checksums be different thus causing an error? e.g i donwloaded Disc1 > > from FTP server and 2 from Bit torrent. > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > From: Tyler Gee > > Reply-To: Tyler Gee > > To: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." > > CC: Moh Bana , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: CD's ? > > Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:02:17 -0700 > > > > > > > > I tend to install based off of the mini disc, harden the system, then > > cvsup and start pulling in and installing everything else. > > > > Also, I think if you are going to be installing -current, you might as > > well do the boot only disc and then do and FTP install, that way you > > are actually getting the most current -current. If you are doing a > > stable install you might want to just get disc1 and disc2 > > > > -wtgee > > > > > > On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:45:15 -0600, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. > > > > wrote: > > > Moh Bana wrote: > > > > Which cd is just required to install Freebsd ... i downloaded the > > > > 5.3 iso's, their seems to be some confusion their 4 cd's? > > > > > > > > 2 ISO's ranging from 600mb + > > > > and one boot cd that is 20-30mb > > > > > > > > > > > > Is the freebsd with X .... that big? > > > > > > Probably not. FreeBSD without X might be 400MB+. That > > > said, it really depends on a lot of factors, since FBSD is > > > so customizable. > > > > > > Before I go on, two disclaimers. 1] newbies@ isn't > > > a place for technicalquestions, and 2] I don't use the > > > ISO's myself.... > > > > > > Now, to debug those, 1] maybe your ?? isn't so technical, and > > > 2] the naming scheme of the ISO's isn't that hard. > > > > > > Bootonly is what it says. A bootable CDROM with the installer, > > > and maybe some other stuff; but you'll need to be ready to > > > grab the code from another source (like via FTP). > > > > > > "miniinst" is a CD that gets you the "minimum" installation of > > > FreeBSD; what's called "the base system". No GUI; nothing > > > that's not maintained by the Project itself. You could make > > > an SMTP server with it, an FTP server, NTP server, a shell server, > > > or ... well, you can't do much else that I can think of*, but the > > > point is, it's FreeBSD, the system is operable, and you can add > > > just about anything you want from there. The CD contains the > > > installer, the binaries and manpages, crypto, contributed (GNU > > > and other) software (including the compiler), in short, everything > > > that's maintained by the Project itself (i.e., nothing from the ports > > > tree). Also, no documentation except the aforementioned manual > > > pages. > > > > > > "Disc 1" and "Disc 2" contain enough to get you going pretty big time. > > > In addition to the "base system", you can expect full source code tree, > > > the full ports tree, and enough tarballs in /usr/ports/distfiles to > > > build X, a bunch of window managers and DE's, servers of every > > > description, a number of programming languages, system utilities, > > > networking tools, games, etc., etc. > > > > > > HTH, > > > > > > Kevin Kinsey > > > DaleCo, S.P. > > > > > > *FreeBSD maintains Sendmail, NTP, OpenSSH, and FTPD in > > > the source tree, along with a bunch of other stuff. If you know > > > much about 'Nix-like OSes, you can get going with a minimum > > > install. I don't know of anyone who uses a minimum install only ... > > > hmm, unless it's for one of the aforementioned, or a gateway, > > > or a router, or a firewall .. which I seem to have forgotten in the > > > above. In short, the reason there's 4 CD's is because there's > > > a lot of flexibility in FBSD ... and probably, the reason there > > > aren't more is because you've gotta keep things simple > > > somehow ... > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 20 17:36:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A0D16A4CE for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 17:36:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from flabnapple.net (Flabnapple.Net [204.87.183.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E22ED43D48 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 17:36:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@rzweb.com) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (c-24-5-6-87.client.comcast.net [24.5.6.87]) by flabnapple.net (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iAKHajJP019038 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 09:36:45 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: Ron Gilbert Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 09:36:27 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Subject: sshd timeout X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 17:36:48 -0000 I am trying to figure out how to keep a remote ssh session from being timed out by my FreeBSD (5.3) server. I've done a lot of searching on the subject, and everyone points to ClientAliveInterval, ClientAliveCountMax and KeepAlive in sshd_config. Problem is, these setting don't help since they seem to be about connections closing, not leaving a terminal session idle. My problem is I've ssh'd in from my Mac to my FreeBSD server, and I need that ssh window to stay open forever. Right now it closes after about 30 minutes of nothing being sent either way. Sometimes I get a "Connection closed" error, and sometimes the Mac terminal window just hangs and I have to close it. I have the same problem when shh'ing in from a Windows machine using Putty, except Putty has a option to send NUL chars every X minutes to keep the session alive, which works, but I would rather just keep the server from timing it out, and I don't use a Widows machine anymore. Is there a way to fix this? Ron From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 20 19:08:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8A7216A4CE for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 19:08:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CB4243D31 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 19:08:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdfsse@optonline.net) Received: from [192.168.0.28] (ool-43532b7b.dyn.optonline.net [67.83.43.123]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <0I7H00640RU5T2@mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 14:08:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 14:08:28 -0500 From: bsdfsse To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-id: <419F962C.3030103@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) Subject: Any thoughts on fanless PC from "Cappuccino PC" ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 19:08:31 -0000 I built a low-powered FreeBSD server for my house, now I have this nagging fear that it will somehow burst in to flames while I am not around. It's in a tower case that I've been re-using for various builds for a few years, but its so loud that I have to put it (and 2 other machines) in to my closet. Maybe its the heat the 3 machines generate, but I find myself not trusting them, shutting them all down whenever I am gone for more than a day. I'd like a nice silent machine I can keep an eye on. I found this Cappuccino PC site after googling for an American version of a British site called "Hush PC". I'm actually tired of building my machines, so a pre-built one is ideal. Anyone have any experience with FreeBSD 4.x or 5.x on one of these machines?: http://www.cappuccinopc.com/solutions/fanless.asp Also, would a computer from London work in America? The Hush PC's looked pretty good. I think they have different electrical plugs over there, that could be a fire hazard. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 20 21:13:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AE5316A4D0 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 21:13:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from flabnapple.net (Flabnapple.Net [204.87.183.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D25DE43D4C for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 21:13:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@rzweb.com) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (c-24-5-6-87.client.comcast.net [24.5.6.87]) by flabnapple.net (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iAKLD5JP022193 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 13:13:05 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ron Gilbert Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 13:12:50 -0800 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Subject: Re: sshd timeout X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 21:13:10 -0000 I think this is my fault some how. It works on my other server with: ClientAliveInterval=15 ClientAliveCountMax=3 so I must have something else conflicting with it. Ron On Nov 20, 2004, at 9:36 AM, Ron Gilbert wrote: > I am trying to figure out how to keep a remote ssh session from being > timed out by my FreeBSD (5.3) server. > > I've done a lot of searching on the subject, and everyone points to > ClientAliveInterval, ClientAliveCountMax and KeepAlive in sshd_config. > Problem is, these setting don't help since they seem to be about > connections closing, not leaving a terminal session idle. > > My problem is I've ssh'd in from my Mac to my FreeBSD server, and I > need that ssh window to stay open forever. Right now it closes after > about 30 minutes of nothing being sent either way. > > Sometimes I get a "Connection closed" error, and sometimes the Mac > terminal window just hangs and I have to close it. I have the same > problem when shh'ing in from a Windows machine using Putty, except > Putty has a option to send NUL chars every X minutes to keep the > session alive, which works, but I would rather just keep the server > from timing it out, and I don't use a Widows machine anymore. > > Is there a way to fix this? > > Ron > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 20 21:38:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17ACE16A4CE for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 21:38:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E23D43D41 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 21:38:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xtalsinger@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from localhost ([82.39.74.76]) by smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sat, 20 Nov 2004 21:39:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by [127.0.0.1] with ESMTP (SpamPal v1.57) sender ; 20 Nov 2004 21:38:30 +0100 From: Dave To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 21:38:28 +0000 Message-ID: <2sdvp0pedcdasp08nihgkkjlsv7pvmbjaj@4ax.com> References: <419F962C.3030103@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <419F962C.3030103@optonline.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Nov 2004 21:39:00.0429 (UTC) FILETIME=[58E6A7D0:01C4CF49] Subject: Re: Any thoughts on fanless PC from "Cappuccino PC" ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtalsinger@blueyonder.co.uk List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 21:38:33 -0000 On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 14:08:28 -0500, you wrote: >Anyone have any experience with FreeBSD 4.x or 5.x on one of these >machines?: > > http://www.cappuccinopc.com/solutions/fanless.asp No, sorry. >Also, would a computer from London work in America? Most PSUs are switchable between 220v and 110v but it would be worth checking. > The Hush PC's looked >pretty good. I think they have different electrical plugs over there, >that could be a fire hazard. No, the plugs are not a fire hazard. Trying to fit it into the wrong type of socket will probably be fruitless and if successfull almost certainly would be a fire hazard ;-) Just cut it off and fit the correct one if you feel competant to do so, otherwise just buy a local power lead with the correct plug on it.. Ah...just checked the cappuccino site. If that's the type of PC you are thinking of importing from UK to USA you'll almost certainly have to source an external PSU locally. The "power bricks" those things use are not usually switchable between differing local mains supplies. Another point. Bear in mind any customs duties on import of goods as well as any local sales taxes. I generally find that US prices are lower than UK prices so importing from UK to USA + taxes may make this prohibitively expensive compared with buying locally. >Thanks! You're welcome Dave -- Any speling misteaks are the reult of a bad insallation of mod_spelink. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 20 22:09:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93F1916A4CE for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 22:09:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gate.fan.priv.at (fan.priv.at [213.129.233.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AECB443D49 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 22:09:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alex@gate.fan.priv.at) Received: from gate.fan.priv.at (alex@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gate.fan.priv.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iAKM5JIS011149; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 23:05:19 +0100 (CET) Received: (from alex@localhost) by gate.fan.priv.at (8.12.10/8.12.1/Submit) id iAKM5J5o013486; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 23:05:19 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 23:05:19 +0100 From: "Alex D'Elia" To: bsdfsse Message-ID: <20041120220519.GC4609@fan.priv.at> References: <419F962C.3030103@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <419F962C.3030103@optonline.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i X-Operating-System: OpenBSD 3.0 X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.68-1, clamav-milter version 0.67a cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any thoughts on fanless PC from "Cappuccino PC" ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 22:09:16 -0000 * bsdfsse [041120 20:08]: > > I built a low-powered FreeBSD server for my house, now I have this > nagging fear that it will somehow burst in to flames while I am not > around. It's in a tower case that I've been re-using for various builds > for a few years, but its so loud that I have to put it (and 2 other > machines) in to my closet. > > Maybe its the heat the 3 machines generate, but I find myself not > trusting them, shutting them all down whenever I am gone for more than a > day. I'd like a nice silent machine I can keep an eye on. I found this > Cappuccino PC site after googling for an American version of a British > site called "Hush PC". > > I'm actually tired of building my machines, so a pre-built one is ideal. > > Anyone have any experience with FreeBSD 4.x or 5.x on one of these > machines?: > > http://www.cappuccinopc.com/solutions/fanless.asp > > Also, would a computer from London work in America? The Hush PC's looked > pretty good. I think they have different electrical plugs over there, > that could be a fire hazard. > > Thanks! High there :) I also built one myself with an EPIA VIA NEHEMIAH 1.2GHz installed all the system with X and gnome. It runs fine ( for a low powered CPU ) but I must say its working better with a linux gentoo than freebsd, probably because gentoo has a packaging system similar to FreeBSD :^) and because of the docs and epiawiki. But I think that with some hacking around you might get the same out of it with freebsd. The problem is still that you cant really use it as a workstation if you are meant to install mplayer and want to see videos. But its a great low powered silent and neat machines... and they are really affordable. We are actually working on a project on that, hopefully soon we might tell your more :) anyway, prebuilt is ofcourse a nice thing when you dont want hack around anymore. But changing a plug is not that big job. adios, alex -- ** acme aka Alex D'Elia --> root.acme.com ** ** private:: alex@fan.priv.at ** work:: acme@sil.at ** ** mobile_at: +43 699 12034633 ** mobile_it: +39 328 4029914 ** USATEL: +1 646 4851628