From owner-freebsd-openoffice@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 11:03:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-openoffice@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 442D516A4CF for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:03:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C95A43D41 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:03:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6QB3DNx028204 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:03:13 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i6QB3Chu028198 for openoffice@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:03:12 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:03:12 GMT Message-Id: <200407261103.i6QB3Chu028198@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: openoffice@FreeBSD.org Subject: Current problem reports assigned to you X-BeenThere: freebsd-openoffice@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting OpenOffice to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:03:13 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a [2003/05/11] ports/52068 openoffice portupgrade of editors/openoffice .org-1. a [2003/05/12] ports/52087 openoffice error while building japanese/openoffice o [2004/01/23] ports/61760 openoffice OpenOffice-1.1 still stalls in install on o [2004/03/24] ports/64678 openoffice openoffice 1.1 upgrade fails due to JDK c o [2004/05/31] ports/67413 openoffice OpenOffice 1.1 PDF Export is BROKEN 5 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2004/03/29] ports/64908 openoffice Wrong russian encoding after saving new f o [2004/04/03] ports/65115 openoffice incomplete distinfo o [2004/05/10] ports/66480 openoffice openoffice-1.1.1 port uses root's $HOME f 3 problems total. From owner-freebsd-openoffice@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 02:46:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-openoffice@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8374616A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 02:46:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from satie.private.org (qclgw.qcl.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.70.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE2243D55 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 02:46:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chat95@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by satie.private.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6T2kFwI000956; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:46:16 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from chat95@mac.com) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:46:15 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20040729.114615.730554918.chat95@mac.com> To: scott@sremick.net From: Nakata Maho In-Reply-To: <20040722133023.73782.qmail@web41115.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040722133023.73782.qmail@web41115.mail.yahoo.com> Organization: private X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on XEmacs 21.4.14 (Reasonable Discussion) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: openoffice@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: OO 1.1.1 on FreeBSD requires Moz 1.0.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-openoffice@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting OpenOffice to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 02:46:50 -0000 In Message-ID: <20040722133023.73782.qmail@web41115.mail.yahoo.com> "Scott I. Remick" wrote: > Hello... I have Mozilla 1.7 already installed from ports (FreeBSD 5.2.1). I > also have OpenOffice 1.1.0 already isntalled. OpenOffice 1.1.1 is requiring > Mozilla 1.0.2 and tries to build it when I try and do a portupgrade. Is yes. we need mozila runtime and include files, etc. > there any way to have OO 1.1.1 be happy with my already-installed Mozilla > 1.7 so I don't have to have 1.0.2 AND 1.7 installed (and wait for 1.0.2 to > build, which takes a long time)? there's a plan to upgrade mozilla to 1.7. however this doesn't mean compilation time will be reduced :( --nakata maho From owner-freebsd-openoffice@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 03:51:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-openoffice@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 710D716A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 03:51:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sentry.granch.ru (sentry.granch.ru [212.20.5.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1A743D45 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 03:51:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shelton@sentry.granch.ru) Received: from [212.20.5.55] (IDENT:1000@sentry.granch.ru [212.20.5.55]) by sentry.granch.ru (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6T3p435015455 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:51:06 +0700 (NOVST) (envelope-from shelton@sentry.granch.ru) From: "Rashid N. Achilov" Organization: Granch Ltd. To: openoffice@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:51:04 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20040722133023.73782.qmail@web41115.mail.yahoo.com> <20040729.114615.730554918.chat95@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <20040729.114615.730554918.chat95@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200407291051.04126.shelton@sentry.granch.ru> X-Spam-Control: Normal message X-Kaspersky-Checking: Passed Subject: Re: OO 1.1.1 on FreeBSD requires Moz 1.0.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-openoffice@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting OpenOffice to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 03:51:08 -0000 On Thursday 29 July 2004 09:46, Nakata Maho wrote: I > > also have OpenOffice 1.1.0 already isntalled. OpenOffice 1.1.1 is requiring > > Mozilla 1.0.2 and tries to build it when I try and do a portupgrade. Is > yes. we need mozila runtime and include files, etc. Are you need mozilla runtime and includes only to allow connect to mozilla addressbook? When I tried to build OOo 1.1.1 on 4.9-STABLE, I have done some patch to OOo port to exclude mozilla from build process... > > > there any way to have OO 1.1.1 be happy with my already-installed Mozilla > > 1.7 so I don't have to have 1.0.2 AND 1.7 installed (and wait for 1.0.2 to > > build, which takes a long time)? > > there's a plan to upgrade mozilla to 1.7. however this doesn't mean > compilation time will be reduced :( I think, it can be switchable (like WITH_MOZILLA_AB=yes) -- With Best Regards. Rashid N. Achilov (RNA1-RIPE), Web: http://granch.ru/~shelton Granch Ltd. system administrator, e-mail: achilov [at] granch [dot] ru PGP: 83 CD E2 A7 37 4A D5 81 D6 D6 52 BF C9 2F 85 AF 97 BE CB 0A From owner-freebsd-openoffice@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 05:57:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-openoffice@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB93F16A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 05:57:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from satie.private.org (qclgw.qcl.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.70.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C337C43D48 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 05:57:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chat95@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by satie.private.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6T5uowI002562; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:56:52 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from chat95@mac.com) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:56:49 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20040729.145649.596523001.chat95@mac.com> To: shelton@sentry.granch.ru From: Nakata Maho In-Reply-To: <200407291051.04126.shelton@sentry.granch.ru> References: <20040722133023.73782.qmail@web41115.mail.yahoo.com> <20040729.114615.730554918.chat95@mac.com> <200407291051.04126.shelton@sentry.granch.ru> Organization: private X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on XEmacs 21.4.14 (Reasonable Discussion) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: openoffice@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OO 1.1.1 on FreeBSD requires Moz 1.0.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-openoffice@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting OpenOffice to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 05:57:26 -0000 In Message-ID: <200407291051.04126.shelton@sentry.granch.ru> "Rashid N. Achilov" wrote: Hm, you don't seem to need mozilla connectivity :) > > there's a plan to upgrade mozilla to 1.7. however this doesn't mean > > compilation time will be reduced :( > > I think, it can be switchable (like WITH_MOZILLA_AB=yes) yes, you are right. there is historical reason that I don't include such option. there is configure option that handels mozilla connectivity, however, unfortunately --enable-mozlla=no enabled mozilla, and --enable-mozilla=yes disables mozilla, a long long days :) ago. so I don't include this to avoid confusion. Once I recieved an e-mail about it and explained somewher I forgot. Thanks, --nakata maho From owner-freebsd-openoffice@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 04:45:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-openoffice@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 105B716A4CE; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 04:45:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from satie.private.org (qclgw.qcl.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.70.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1522043D66; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 04:45:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chat95@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by satie.private.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6U4j1xu000675; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:45:01 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from chat95@mac.com) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:45:01 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20040730.134501.730549265.chat95@mac.com> To: ports@freebsd.org, openoffice@freebsd.org From: Nakata Maho Organization: private X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on XEmacs 21.4.14 (Reasonable Discussion) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: mbr@freebsd.org Subject: OpenOffice will be updated soon X-BeenThere: freebsd-openoffice@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting OpenOffice to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 04:45:47 -0000 Dear OpenOffice.org freaks, I'll update OpenOffice.org port soon. /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-1.1 -> OpenOffice.org 1.1.2 /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-1.1-devel -> OpenOffice.org 1.1.3 (developer ver. cws_srx645_ooo113fix2, checkout at 2004/7/29 16:00 JST) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- o remove some obsolated description in Makefile (We don't test OOo under earlier than 5, we need maintainer) o have separated mozilla Makefile (since Makefile itself is too long). o Remove default LANG setting and CJK enhancement. -> Changes in OOo should be minimal. o Remove GIF LZW patent patch. GIF patent is expired all around the world. o Build process of OOo will be changed drastically, to reduce the amount of time for building localized packages (33 localized langs total) I'm not sure localized ports may work or not at the moment. formerly, building OOo took 5.5h with ccache, 5.2.1-RELEASE and Pentium M 1.6. So full 33 localized build took 33*5.5h! However, now once all localized build have done (take 6h), other build will end in 5 min. o build process: o make OOo package for English version with solver and sdk make WITH_CCACHE=yes package package-rename solver sdk deinstall clean o make OOo localized package (change LOCALIZED_LANG=XX to build your fav. lang, see files/Makefile.local for XX) make LOCALIZED_LANG=ja WITH_CCACHE=yes package package-rename deinstall o make all localized packages make ALL_LOCALIZED_LANGS=yes -> builds all language at once (but do not install anything!) make TWEAK_L10N=yes LOCALIZED_LANG=ja pre-everything make LOCALIZED_LANG=ja WITH_CCACHE=yes package package-rename deinstall -> make japanese localized package(TWEAK_L10N=yes is important. cheats) make TWEAK_L10N=yes LOCALIZED_LANG=ar pre-everything make LOCALIZED_LANG=ar WITH_CCACHE=yes package package-rename deinstall ... o status of these ports : http://porting.openoffice.org/freebsd/ Packages are available for 5.2.1-RELEASE and 4.10-STABLE o http://oootranslation.services.openoffice.org/pub/OpenOffice.org/ooomisc/FreeBSD/ Target of platform is FreeBSD/i386 5.2.1-RELEASE. Feedbacks are appreciated. --nakata maho From owner-freebsd-openoffice@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 05:12:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-openoffice@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E85C116A4CE; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 05:12:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta10.adelphia.net (mta10.adelphia.net [68.168.78.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C69643D49; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 05:12:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from johnmary@adelphia.net) Received: from 68-169-191-150.losaca.adelphia.net ([68.169.191.150]) by mta10.adelphia.netESMTP <20040730051201.OCRK6319.mta10.adelphia.net@68-169-191-150.losaca.adelphia.net>; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 01:12:01 -0400 Received: by 68-169-191-150.losaca.adelphia.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8F82E61B0; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 22:12:00 -0700 (PDT) From: John Merryweather Cooper To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 22:11:51 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20040730.134501.730549265.chat95@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <20040730.134501.730549265.chat95@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200407292211.59957.john_m_cooper@yahoo.com> cc: ports@freebsd.org cc: mbr@freebsd.org cc: openoffice@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenOffice will be updated soon X-BeenThere: freebsd-openoffice@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting OpenOffice to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 05:12:13 -0000 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 29 July 2004 09:45 pm, Nakata Maho wrote: > Dear OpenOffice.org freaks, > > I'll update OpenOffice.org port soon. > > /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-1.1 > -> OpenOffice.org 1.1.2 > /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-1.1-devel > -> OpenOffice.org 1.1.3 (developer ver. cws_srx645_ooo113fix2, > checkout at 2004/7/29 16:00 JST) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D- > o remove some obsolated description in Makefile (We don't test > OOo under earlier than 5, we need maintainer) > o have separated mozilla Makefile (since Makefile itself is too long). > o Remove default LANG setting and CJK enhancement. > -> Changes in OOo should be minimal. > o Remove GIF LZW patent patch. GIF patent is expired all around the world. > o Build process of OOo will be changed drastically, to reduce > the amount of time for building localized packages > (33 localized langs total) > I'm not sure localized ports may work or not at the moment. > formerly, building OOo took 5.5h with ccache, 5.2.1-RELEASE > and Pentium M 1.6. So full 33 localized build took 33*5.5h! > However, now once all localized build have done (take 6h), > other build will end in 5 min. > > o build process: > > o make OOo package for English version with solver and sdk > make WITH_CCACHE=3Dyes package package-rename solver sdk deinstall cle= an > > o make OOo localized package (change LOCALIZED_LANG=3DXX to build your > fav. lang, see files/Makefile.local for XX) > > make LOCALIZED_LANG=3Dja WITH_CCACHE=3Dyes package package-rename dein= stall > > o make all localized packages > > make ALL_LOCALIZED_LANGS=3Dyes > -> builds all language at once (but do not install anything!) > make TWEAK_L10N=3Dyes LOCALIZED_LANG=3Dja pre-everything > make LOCALIZED_LANG=3Dja WITH_CCACHE=3Dyes package package-rename > deinstall -> make japanese localized package(TWEAK_L10N=3Dyes is importan= t. > cheats) make TWEAK_L10N=3Dyes LOCALIZED_LANG=3Dar pre-everything > make LOCALIZED_LANG=3Dar WITH_CCACHE=3Dyes package package-rename > deinstall ... > > o status of these ports : http://porting.openoffice.org/freebsd/ > > Packages are available for 5.2.1-RELEASE and 4.10-STABLE > o > http://oootranslation.services.openoffice.org/pub/OpenOffice.org/ooomisc/= =46r >eeBSD/ > > Target of platform is FreeBSD/i386 5.2.1-RELEASE. > > Feedbacks are appreciated. > --nakata maho > The basic problem with targeting to 5.2.1-RELEASE is that it has huge gobs = of=20 obsolete library dependencies. A similar problem exists tracking a 4.x=20 RELEASE verses -STABLE. It would be far, far better mirror the package=20 building mechanism on bento (i.e., build packages for -STABLE and -CURRENT)= =2E =20 As it stands now, although I can override the warnings on pkg_add, the=20 installed OpenOffice is dead as a door nail on -CURRENT (it seems to be=20 looking for libraries that are no longer there). jmc P.S. Having the ability to haul down the packages conveniently and install= =20 them from the ports Makefile for OpenOffice would be a real plus. I also=20 applaud your efforts to de-couple some of the builds out. The build is way= =20 too monolithic (which means that the slightest failure in any one component= =20 and you have just wasted DAYS building the thing). Finally, a dedicated SD= K=20 port is needed so that plugins can be ported (I would like to port the=20 WordPerfect plugin, but there's currently no dependency to point to for the= =20 SDK). =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBCdidvBSBfjNhsrIRAspaAJ9Wb4fc25MNqp8ed28d1z8H7gp1CACfZSmm yi3AovUSMCMT4tY+uIY7meQ=3D =3DfZas =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-openoffice@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 22:13:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-openoffice@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC9E516A4CE for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 22:13:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from box84.elkhouse.de (box84.elkhouse.de [213.9.1.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598C743D3F for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 22:13:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roman@ontographics.com) Received: from 1cust6.vr1.dtm1.alter.net ([149.229.96.6] helo=[192.168.1.3]) by box84.elkhouse.de with asmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BqfZO-0007KV-4F for openoffice@freebsd.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 00:09:42 +0200 From: Roman Kennke To: openoffice@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1091225558.3120.19.camel@moonlight> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 00:12:38 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ugly Java dependency in OOo X-BeenThere: freebsd-openoffice@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting OpenOffice to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 22:13:03 -0000 Hi there, I just wanted to build OOo from ports and found that it depends on the FreeBSD native JDK. The problem I see here is, that this requires me to agree to the Sun Community Source License, which is indeed a very crazy license. I worked around this by just symlinking /usr/local/linux-sun-jdk1.4.2 to /usr/local/jdk1.4.2 and it works equally well. So why not make the OOo port depends on that JDK? Or even better: on the Blackdown-Linux-JDK, so that the user doesn't have to be interrupted and required to download an installer? Of course, I think the best thing would be to leave out these Java dependencies altogether. This is what Debian and Fedora people do. They have patches for that. But for now, I propose to change dependencies on jdk14 to linux-sun-jdk14, which is no big deal IMO, since building jdk14 also requires the linux-jdk. Kind regards, Roman From owner-freebsd-openoffice@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 09:42:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-openoffice@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E1416A4CE for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 09:42:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from woozle.rinet.ru (woozle.rinet.ru [195.54.192.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 407AF43D5C for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 09:42:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by woozle.rinet.ru (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6V9gGmc075819; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 13:42:17 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 13:42:16 +0400 (MSD) From: Dmitry Morozovsky To: Roman Kennke In-Reply-To: <1091225558.3120.19.camel@moonlight> Message-ID: <20040731133902.H58234@woozle.rinet.ru> References: <1091225558.3120.19.camel@moonlight> X-NCC-RegID: ru.rinet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: openoffice@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ugly Java dependency in OOo X-BeenThere: freebsd-openoffice@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting OpenOffice to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 09:42:53 -0000 On Sat, 31 Jul 2004, Roman Kennke wrote: RK> I just wanted to build OOo from ports and found that it depends on the RK> FreeBSD native JDK. The problem I see here is, that this requires me to RK> agree to the Sun Community Source License, which is indeed a very crazy RK> license. I worked around this by just symlinking RK> /usr/local/linux-sun-jdk1.4.2 to /usr/local/jdk1.4.2 and it works RK> equally well. So why not make the OOo port depends on that JDK? Or even RK> better: on the Blackdown-Linux-JDK, so that the user doesn't have to be RK> interrupted and required to download an installer? RK> RK> Of course, I think the best thing would be to leave out these Java RK> dependencies altogether. This is what Debian and Fedora people do. They RK> have patches for that. RK> RK> But for now, I propose to change dependencies on jdk14 to RK> linux-sun-jdk14, which is no big deal IMO, since building jdk14 also RK> requires the linux-jdk. Then at least it should be made optional, because _now_ linux-jdk is required for building native jdk, not OO, and thus we would break the ability to build OO without linux binary compatibility. And, yes, OO dependencies *are* a bit fragile regarding to versions: gcc and jdk are only the most visible ones. Sincerely, D.Marck [DM5020, MCK-RIPE, DM3-RIPN] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *** Dmitry Morozovsky --- D.Marck --- Wild Woozle --- marck@rinet.ru *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-openoffice@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 14:32:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-openoffice@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E659416A4CE for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 14:32:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from box84.elkhouse.de (box84.elkhouse.de [213.9.1.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A696543D69 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 14:32:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roman@ontographics.com) Received: from 1cust6.vr1.dtm1.alter.net ([149.229.96.6] helo=[192.168.1.3]) by box84.elkhouse.de with asmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BqurN-0000tF-20; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 16:29:17 +0200 From: Roman Kennke To: Dmitry Morozovsky In-Reply-To: <20040731133902.H58234@woozle.rinet.ru> References: <1091225558.3120.19.camel@moonlight> <20040731133902.H58234@woozle.rinet.ru> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1091284334.28254.9.camel@moonlight> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 16:32:14 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: openoffice@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ugly Java dependency in OOo X-BeenThere: freebsd-openoffice@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting OpenOffice to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 14:32:41 -0000 Am Sa, den 31.07.2004 schrieb Dmitry Morozovsky um 11:42: > On Sat, 31 Jul 2004, Roman Kennke wrote: > > RK> I just wanted to build OOo from ports and found that it depends on the > RK> FreeBSD native JDK. The problem I see here is, that this requires me to > RK> agree to the Sun Community Source License, which is indeed a very crazy > RK> license. I worked around this by just symlinking > RK> /usr/local/linux-sun-jdk1.4.2 to /usr/local/jdk1.4.2 and it works > RK> equally well. So why not make the OOo port depends on that JDK? Or even > RK> better: on the Blackdown-Linux-JDK, so that the user doesn't have to be > RK> interrupted and required to download an installer? > RK> > RK> Of course, I think the best thing would be to leave out these Java > RK> dependencies altogether. This is what Debian and Fedora people do. They > RK> have patches for that. > RK> > RK> But for now, I propose to change dependencies on jdk14 to > RK> linux-sun-jdk14, which is no big deal IMO, since building jdk14 also > RK> requires the linux-jdk. > > Then at least it should be made optional, because _now_ linux-jdk is required > for building native jdk, not OO, and thus we would break the ability to build > OO without linux binary compatibility. yes. This is not what I am worried about. I don't like to agree to the Sun Community Source License, which is required in order to build the native JDK. I would rather like to go with linux binary compatibility. > And, yes, OO dependencies *are* a bit fragile regarding to versions: gcc and > jdk are only the most visible ones. Yes, I believe that this is not an easy task. BTW: I have checked the situation in NetBSD, it seems that they also have OOo without any Java dependency: ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/packages/pkgsrc/misc/openoffice/README.html Kind regards, Roman From owner-freebsd-openoffice@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 14:44:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-openoffice@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784FE16A4CE for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 14:44:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from panix.ecof.org.br (panix.ecof.org.br [200.18.101.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2DC643D6B for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 14:44:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pan@panix.ecof.org.br) Received: from localhost (localhost.ecof.org.br [127.0.0.1]) by panix.ecof.org.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEF6925A91 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 11:44:15 -0300 (BRT) Received: from panix.ecof.org.br ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (panix.ecof.org.br [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 80068-03 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 11:44:13 -0300 (BRT) Received: from [200.18.101.161] (panixgw.ecof.org.br [200.18.101.161]) by panix.ecof.org.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5B0F25A8F for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 11:44:13 -0300 (BRT) Message-ID: <410BB03D.8010603@panix.ecof.org.br> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 11:44:13 -0300 From: "Carlos F. A. Paniago" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040721 X-Accept-Language: pt-br, pt, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: openoffice@freebsd.org References: <1091225558.3120.19.camel@moonlight> <20040731133902.H58234@woozle.rinet.ru> <1091284334.28254.9.camel@moonlight> In-Reply-To: <1091284334.28254.9.camel@moonlight> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at panix.ecof.org.br Subject: Re: ugly Java dependency in OOo X-BeenThere: freebsd-openoffice@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting OpenOffice to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 14:44:19 -0000 Roman Kennke wrote: >Am Sa, den 31.07.2004 schrieb Dmitry Morozovsky um 11:42: > > >>On Sat, 31 Jul 2004, Roman Kennke wrote: >> >>RK> I just wanted to build OOo from ports and found that it depends on the >>RK> FreeBSD native JDK. The problem I see here is, that this requires me to >>RK> agree to the Sun Community Source License, which is indeed a very crazy >>RK> license. I worked around this by just symlinking >>RK> /usr/local/linux-sun-jdk1.4.2 to /usr/local/jdk1.4.2 and it works >>RK> equally well. So why not make the OOo port depends on that JDK? Or even >>RK> better: on the Blackdown-Linux-JDK, so that the user doesn't have to be >>RK> interrupted and required to download an installer? >>RK> >>RK> Of course, I think the best thing would be to leave out these Java >>RK> dependencies altogether. This is what Debian and Fedora people do. They >>RK> have patches for that. >>RK> >>RK> But for now, I propose to change dependencies on jdk14 to >>RK> linux-sun-jdk14, which is no big deal IMO, since building jdk14 also >>RK> requires the linux-jdk. >> >>Then at least it should be made optional, because _now_ linux-jdk is required >>for building native jdk, not OO, and thus we would break the ability to build >>OO without linux binary compatibility. >> >> > >yes. This is not what I am worried about. I don't like to agree to the >Sun Community Source License, which is required in order to build the >native JDK. I would rather like to go with linux binary compatibility. > > > >>And, yes, OO dependencies *are* a bit fragile regarding to versions: gcc and >>jdk are only the most visible ones. >> >> > >Yes, I believe that this is not an easy task. > >BTW: I have checked the situation in NetBSD, it seems that they also >have OOo without any Java dependency: > >ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/packages/pkgsrc/misc/openoffice/README.html > >Kind regards, >Roman > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-openoffice@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-openoffice >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-openoffice-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > I have a differente opinion. I prefer to use native ports e not to use "linux modules". In that way I prefer to have the native jdk (or the diablo one) not the linux one. If posisble the jdk/jre could be an option (to chose with ou without any kind of jdk/jre that is available). But I don't know how to do this in the ports. The people that are doing the outstanding work to have a port of Openoffice in FreeBSD could consider this? Paniago -- Nome: Carlos Fernando Assis Paniago Email: pan@panix.ecof.org.br e pan@cnpm.embrapa.br Web: http://www.panix.ecof.org.br/ e http://www.cnpm.embrapa.br/ --