From owner-freebsd-perl@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 16 11:05:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-perl@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07FA416A4CE for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:05:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DCE643D2F for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:05:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7GB5opL002005 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:05:50 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i7GB5nYN001995 for perl@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:05:49 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:05:49 GMT Message-Id: <200408161105.i7GB5nYN001995@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: perl@FreeBSD.org Subject: Current problem reports assigned to you X-BeenThere: freebsd-perl@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: maintainer of a number of perl-related ports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:05:51 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. 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From owner-freebsd-perl@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 18 13:36:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-perl@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67D8B16A4CE for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:36:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from files.jawa.at (jawa.at [213.229.17.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BD5E43D45 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:36:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mranner@inode.at) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by files.jawa.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69EF8FDFA for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 15:36:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from files.jawa.at ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (files.jawa.at [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 64058-10 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 15:36:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: by files.jawa.at (Postfix, from userid 60) id 8F367FDF8; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 15:36:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from walgrind.jawa.at (walgrind.jawa.at [192.168.200.56]) by files.jawa.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 084FCFDC4 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 15:36:20 +0200 (CEST) From: Michael Ranner To: perl@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 15:36:17 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200408181536.17831.mranner@inode.at> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on files.jawa.at X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Level: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at jawa.at Subject: p5- Ports with perl5.8.5 breaks with "Your Makefile has been rebuilt" X-BeenThere: freebsd-perl@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: maintainer of a number of perl-related ports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:36:33 -0000 Hello List! Have a fresh installed FreeBSD 5.2.1 system an try to install amavisd-new on it. Perl 5.8.5 installed from ports, now every p5- ports breaks with: Checking for Net::SMTP...ok Checking for Net::Domain...ok Checking for IO::Handle...ok Checking if your kit is complete... Looks good Writing Makefile for Mail ==> Your Makefile has been rebuilt. <== ==> Please rerun the make command. <== false *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/p5-Mail-Tools/work/MailTools-1.62. Can go further if I comment out the "false" in the Makefile generated from Makefile.pl. What can be the problem? -- /\/\ichael Ranner mranner@inode.at - mranner@jawa.at - mranner@bugat.at ----------------------------------------------------- BSD Usergroup Austria - http://www.bugat.at/ -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- GIT/CS/AT dx(-) s+:(++:) a- C++ UBLVS++++$ P++>+++$ L-(+)$ E--- W+++$ N+(++) o-- K- w--()$ O-(--) M@ V-(--) PS+>++ PE(-) Y+ PGP(-) t+ 5+ X+++(++++) R* tv++ b+(++) DI++ D-(--) G- e h--(*) r++ y? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From owner-freebsd-perl@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 18 13:42:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-perl@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCA1716A4CE for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:42:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from plouf.absolight.net (plouf.absolight.net [212.43.217.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D80C43D1F for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:42:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mat@FreeBSD.org) X-Original-To: mranner@inode.at X-Original-To: perl@freebsd.org Received: from [192.168.8.51] (abeillemusiq.net4.nerim.net [62.212.120.194]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by plouf.absolight.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D32B13FF3; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 15:42:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 15:42:32 +0200 From: Mathieu Arnold To: Michael Ranner , perl@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200408181536.17831.mranner@inode.at> References: <200408181536.17831.mranner@inode.at> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="==========46B9EFF0FDB1A29F0BDF==========" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64-abso_2004012301 (2004-01-11) on plouf.absolight.net by root@absolight.fr X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at plouf.absolight.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 tagged_above=-10 required=5 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: p5- Ports with perl5.8.5 breaks with "Your Makefile has been rebuilt" X-BeenThere: freebsd-perl@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: maintainer of a number of perl-related ports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:42:43 -0000 --==========46B9EFF0FDB1A29F0BDF========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline +-le 18/08/2004 15:36 +0200, Michael Ranner a dit : | Hello List! | | Have a fresh installed FreeBSD 5.2.1 system an try to install amavisd-new | on it. Perl 5.8.5 installed from ports, now every p5- ports breaks with: | | Checking for Net::SMTP...ok | Checking for Net::Domain...ok | Checking for IO::Handle...ok | Checking if your kit is complete... | Looks good | Writing Makefile for Mail | ==> Your Makefile has been rebuilt. <== | ==> Please rerun the make command. <== | false | *** Error code 1 | | Stop in /usr/ports/mail/p5-Mail-Tools/work/MailTools-1.62. | | Can go further if I comment out the "false" in the Makefile generated from | Makefile.pl. What can be the problem? You have a problem with your perl installation, you installed it ahead in time, and I guess either your : /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/mach/Config.pm or /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/mach/CORE/config.h are ahead in time, just touch them and it should be ok. -- Mathieu Arnold --==========46B9EFF0FDB1A29F0BDF========== Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (MingW32) iQEVAwUBQSNczlvROjYJ63c1AQIFVwf/dZDsg6lYwMBvseOsdUW2pn42HrSV5oZF /pz7I7wX05HHhy1Yu242utYH8RMAJ4uaOAGdaPmOjDX4VY4n77KO2SQARkIEM48z 3RTFclPxlJRwNiWc6PrVquV4ZUwR2DskZ9ZGuIAh3UObLwgKgNwRrlJKMpCXG/Mo md2UEhZH/9d0NSe2foSZxjnYfhPXyy582LIk608Az6hUzefY3+Uq0dbYK6LCPpBp kCsFCse+RnqWP+ukNBkEG3qVOhJIPGN6R7fBg+TRXLFsKkPRfAFAG3+WyqAAXzCt WzeodTNMjNQhMGsewlhJ83btwx6y885dVkh9CWt0fAkmOXZtYIlDbA== =IvqN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==========46B9EFF0FDB1A29F0BDF==========-- From owner-freebsd-perl@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 19 09:09:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-perl@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3937F16A4CE for ; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 09:09:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from files.jawa.at (jawa.at [213.229.17.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99AEC43D46 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 09:09:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mranner@inode.at) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by files.jawa.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7377EFE10; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 11:09:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from files.jawa.at ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (files.jawa.at [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32990-03; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 11:09:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: by files.jawa.at (Postfix, from userid 60) id 68882FE04; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 11:09:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from walgrind.jawa.at (walgrind.jawa.at [192.168.200.56]) by files.jawa.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C16FDF8; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 11:09:12 +0200 (CEST) From: Michael Ranner To: perl@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 11:09:10 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.1 References: <200408181512.59208.mranner@inode.at> <41235F82.5040907@amis.net> In-Reply-To: <41235F82.5040907@amis.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200408191109.10272.mranner@inode.at> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on files.jawa.at X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,J_CHICKENPOX_34, J_CHICKENPOX_62 autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Level: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at jawa.at cc: Blaz Zupan Subject: Re: Fresh perl install and amavisd-new X-BeenThere: freebsd-perl@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: maintainer of a number of perl-related ports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 09:09:22 -0000 Am Mittwoch, 18. August 2004 15:54 schrieben Sie: > > You must manually add > > > > PERL_VER=5.8.5 > > PERL_VERSION=5.8.5 > > PERL_ARCH=mach > > NOPERL=yo > > NO_PERL=yo > > NO_PERL_WRAPPER=yo > > > > to /etc/make.conf > > > > or run "use.perl port" once after installing perl for the first time from > > ports on a fresh FreeBSD 5 system before running "make install" for > > amavisd-new. > > > > Probably a hint would be nice. > > This is obvious. Otherwise you are not running perl 5.8.X, but are > running your default perl. This is part of the perl setup and does not > belong into the amavis port. # Ok, this is surely right, but may I demonstrate: bash-3.00# cd /usr/ports/security/amavisd-new/ bash-3.00# make install ===> amavisd-new-2.1.0,1 requires perl 5.8.2 or higher. # ok so go I to perl5.8 bash-3.00# cd /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/ bash-3.00# make install # # hundreds lines of output during building # Installation of Perl distribution is finished. Please note, that since Perl is also in the base system, this distribution will not be used by default. # # this ist not true on FreeBSD 5 # If you want this version of Perl to be used by default, please type use.perl port # # This is the necessary line to modify /etc/make.conf which amavisd-new # port reads in. # # Some more pkg-message lines # # Users new to FreeBSD may not read all the pkg-message output, simply trying # perl -v which results in the expected output and they will go further to # build amavisd-new which result in: bash-3.00# cd /usr/ports/security/amavisd-new/ bash-3.00# make ===> amavisd-new-2.1.0,1 requires perl 5.8.2 or higher. but perl -v works as expected. So my idea: Give some hint in amavisd-new which may be the wrong place or fix up the perl ports to give a correct pkg-message for FreeBSD whithout perl in the base distro. Best regards, -- /\/\ichael Ranner mranner@inode.at - mranner@jawa.at - mranner@bugat.at ----------------------------------------------------- BSD Usergroup Austria - http://www.bugat.at/ -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- GIT/CS/AT dx(-) s+:(++:) a- C++ UBLVS++++$ P++>+++$ L-(+)$ E--- W+++$ N+(++) o-- K- w--()$ O-(--) M@ V-(--) PS+>++ PE(-) Y+ PGP(-) t+ 5+ X+++(++++) R* tv++ b+(++) DI++ D-(--) G- e h--(*) r++ y? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From owner-freebsd-perl@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 19 09:20:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-perl@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B9F516A4CE; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 09:20:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from files.jawa.at (jawa.at [213.229.17.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EEEA43D60; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 09:20:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mranner@inode.at) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by files.jawa.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2603CFE1E; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 11:20:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from files.jawa.at ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (files.jawa.at [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32990-04; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 11:20:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: by files.jawa.at (Postfix, from userid 60) id 3EFA1FE04; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 11:20:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from walgrind.jawa.at (walgrind.jawa.at [192.168.200.56]) by files.jawa.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id C74EAFDAC; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 11:19:57 +0200 (CEST) From: Michael Ranner To: Mathieu Arnold Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 11:19:55 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.1 References: <200408181536.17831.mranner@inode.at> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200408191119.55964.mranner@inode.at> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on files.jawa.at X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Level: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at jawa.at cc: perl@freebsd.org Subject: Re: p5- Ports with perl5.8.5 breaks with "Your Makefile has been rebuilt" X-BeenThere: freebsd-perl@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: maintainer of a number of perl-related ports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 09:20:09 -0000 Am Mittwoch, 18. August 2004 15:42 schrieb Mathieu Arnold: > +-le 18/08/2004 15:36 +0200, Michael Ranner a dit : > | Hello List! > | > | Have a fresh installed FreeBSD 5.2.1 system an try to install amavisd-new > | on it. Perl 5.8.5 installed from ports, now every p5- ports breaks with: > | > | Checking for Net::SMTP...ok > | Checking for Net::Domain...ok > | Checking for IO::Handle...ok > | Checking if your kit is complete... > | Looks good > | Writing Makefile for Mail > | ==> Your Makefile has been rebuilt. <== > | ==> Please rerun the make command. <== > | false > | *** Error code 1 > | > | Stop in /usr/ports/mail/p5-Mail-Tools/work/MailTools-1.62. > | > | Can go further if I comment out the "false" in the Makefile generated > | from Makefile.pl. What can be the problem? > > You have a problem with your perl installation, you installed it ahead in > time, and I guess either your : > /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/mach/Config.pm > or > /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/mach/CORE/config.h > are ahead in time, just touch them and it should be ok. Yes, it may be a result of building from an NFS mounted ports tree which runs NTP synchronized, but the time on the local machine is in the past (-7000 NTP offset). So touching the two files after syncing time and "make clean" has fixed the problem. Regards, -- /\/\ichael Ranner mranner@inode.at - mranner@jawa.at - mranner@bugat.at ----------------------------------------------------- BSD Usergroup Austria - http://www.bugat.at/ -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- GIT/CS/AT dx(-) s+:(++:) a- C++ UBLVS++++$ P++>+++$ L-(+)$ E--- W+++$ N+(++) o-- K- w--()$ O-(--) M@ V-(--) PS+>++ PE(-) Y+ PGP(-) t+ 5+ X+++(++++) R* tv++ b+(++) DI++ D-(--) G- e h--(*) r++ y? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From owner-freebsd-perl@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 19 16:21:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-perl@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 073CD16A4E9 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:21:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out-1.mail.amis.net (out-1.mail.amis.net [212.18.32.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3905A43D45 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:21:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from blaz@si.FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (in-4.mail.amis.net [212.18.32.23]) by out-1.mail.amis.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26735B443C; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 18:21:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from in-4.mail.amis.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (in-4.mail.amis.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 60294-02; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 18:21:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from piranha.amis.net (piranha.amis.net [212.18.32.3]) by in-4.mail.amis.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3933A4ADB1E; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 18:21:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from titanic.medinet.si (titanic.medinet.si [212.18.42.5]) by piranha.amis.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AFB8FD89; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 18:21:54 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 18:21:54 +0200 (CEST) From: Blaz Zupan X-X-Sender: blaz@titanic.medinet.si To: Michael Ranner In-Reply-To: <200408191109.10272.mranner@inode.at> Message-ID: <20040819181836.I86733@titanic.medinet.si> References: <200408181512.59208.mranner@inode.at> <41235F82.5040907@amis.net> <200408191109.10272.mranner@inode.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at amis.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5 tests=BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: cc: perl@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fresh perl install and amavisd-new X-BeenThere: freebsd-perl@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: maintainer of a number of perl-related ports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:21:58 -0000 > Installation of Perl distribution is finished. Please note, that > since Perl is also in the base system, this distribution will not > be used by default. > > # > # this ist not true on FreeBSD 5 > # It *is* true. This distribution will not be used by default. If there is nothing in the base system, well you don't have a perl. > > If you want this version of Perl to be used by default, please type > > use.perl port So, you follow this instruction and this is all that is needed. > # Users new to FreeBSD may not read all the pkg-message output, simply trying > # perl -v which results in the expected output and they will go further to > # build amavisd-new which result in: Well, if users will not read the instructions, why do you think they would read the instructions in the amavisd-new pkg-message output? > but perl -v works as expected. It does, but perl is *not* installed. > So my idea: Give some hint in amavisd-new which may be the wrong place or fix > up the perl ports to give a correct pkg-message for FreeBSD whithout perl in > the base distro. There are dozens of ports that depend on perl 5.8 (or perl 5.6). Should every single one of them contain warnings in addition to the warnings being displayed by perl itself? If you try to install amavisd-new, it warns you that you need perl 5.8.X. So, you need to properly install it. If the instructions for perl installation are not good enough, then *they* should be fixed, not the instructions for every single port that depends on perl. Just IMHO. From owner-freebsd-perl@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 20 08:43:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-perl@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9275A16A4CE for ; Fri, 20 Aug 2004 08:43:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from files.jawa.at (jawa.at [213.229.17.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F8C43D41 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 2004 08:43:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mranner@jawa.at) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by files.jawa.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BCE5FE04; Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:43:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from files.jawa.at ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (files.jawa.at [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09671-06; Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:43:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: by files.jawa.at (Postfix, from userid 60) id 2A1DCFDFA; Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:43:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from walgrind.jawa.at (walgrind.jawa.at [192.168.200.56]) by files.jawa.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1A28FDAC; Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:43:23 +0200 (CEST) From: Michael Ranner To: perl@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:43:21 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.1 References: <200408181512.59208.mranner@inode.at> <200408191109.10272.mranner@inode.at> <20040819181836.I86733@titanic.medinet.si> In-Reply-To: <20040819181836.I86733@titanic.medinet.si> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200408201043.21783.mranner@jawa.at> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on files.jawa.at X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,J_CHICKENPOX_34 autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Level: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at jawa.at cc: Blaz Zupan Subject: Re: Fresh perl install and amavisd-new X-BeenThere: freebsd-perl@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: maintainer of a number of perl-related ports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 08:43:34 -0000 Am Donnerstag, 19. August 2004 18:21 schrieb Blaz Zupan: > > Installation of Perl distribution is finished. Please note, that > > since Perl is also in the base system, this distribution will not > > be used by default. > > > > # > > # this ist not true on FreeBSD 5 > > # > > It *is* true. This distribution will not be used by default. If there is > nothing in the base system, well you don't have a perl. "Please note, that since Perl is also in the base system" AFAIK there is no perl in the base system on FreeBSD 5, so this part of the pkg-message is not correct on FreeBSD 5. The part "This distribution will not be used by default" is correct. I know some users who are searching and asking me for the "hidden" perl in the base system on FreeBSD 5 because auf this pkg-message. > > but perl -v works as expected. > > It does, but perl is *not* installed. This is your, my and probably other FreeBSD experts opinion, but if some users may run perl in the command line and can write scripts with #!/usr/local/bin/perl the may think its "installed". > There are dozens of ports that depend on perl 5.8 (or perl 5.6). Should > every single one of them contain warnings in addition to the warnings being > displayed by perl itself? If you try to install amavisd-new, it warns you > that you need perl 5.8.X. So, you need to properly install it. If the > instructions for perl installation are not good enough, then *they* should > be fixed, not the instructions for every single port that depends on perl. > Just IMHO. Sure, amavisd-new was only one example. I think the pkg-message or other instructions for the perl ports should be updated for FreeBSD 5 or maybe the installation can be automated, if there is no other perl on the system, run use.perl port and make the necessary entries in /etc/make.conf automagically. 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