From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 12:22:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 068A116A4D0 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 12:22:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EDB0C43D60 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 12:22:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Gregor.Bittel@GMX.de) Received: (qmail 4763 invoked by uid 65534); 14 Sep 2004 12:22:52 -0000 Received: from pD9FA8EDF.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO 2x_Xeon.BI) (217.250.142.223) by mail.gmx.net (mp005) with SMTP; 14 Sep 2004 14:22:52 +0200 X-Authenticated: #3119465 From: Gregor Bittel To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 14:23:58 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200409141409.12715.Gregor.Bittel@GMX.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Subject: Multiprocessing-mainboards. X-BeenThere: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD SMP implementation group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 12:22:55 -0000 Hello. I'd like to remind you of my small project[1] -- a list[1] of SMP-boards running FreeBSD (in real SMP-mode with two or more physical processors - sorted by CPU-socket/slot). Everyone is invited to add his known-working FreeBSD-SMP-board to this list, especially the older ones - they are very hard to find (and I don't want to buy them all on online-auctions - my room and money are limited ;) Only real MP boards will be listed, that is, only boards with two or more physical processors installed -- running a FreeBSD SMP kernel -- and which can be identified by a specific name or number. For example, the "Tyan Tiger i7505 S2668AN" and the "Tyan Tiger i7505 S2668ANR" are different boards and will be listed as different, each with an own entry). To add a mainboard, please submit (in addition to the exact brand and label) the output of the dmesg(8) and mptable(1) commands, and optionally the "pciconf -l -v" output as well. The BIOS revision would be nice, too. Please take care to remove the host and/or domain name from the dmesg(8) output (only if you don't want it should be public). Any known caveats or remarks that may be helpful to other users are also most welcome! Currently 151 SMP-boards are listed, and my local list contains 633 different boards at the moment (including the 151 on the website). Some words about my person: I started my first FreeBSD-Installation in July 1999 (I ordered a CD-Set from a German Distributor), and since this time I am infected with the FreeBSD-Virus ;) And not to forget: I would like to say "Thank you" - for my favourite Operating System and for reading this mail. best regards, -Gregor. -- Gregor.Bittel@GMX.de [1]= http://www.bnv-bamberg.de/home/ba3294/smp/index.htm From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 23:08:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2AE616A4CE; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 23:08:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns0.secureanonymous.com (tjhawkins.com [64.232.254.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3FCE43D1D; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 23:08:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from timh@tjhawkins.com) Received: from cdm-66-76-83-77.fayt.cox-internet.com ([66.76.83.77] helo=yourw92p4bhlzg) by ns0.secureanonymous.com with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1C8nOn-0005Ya-Ha; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 17:09:42 -0500 Message-ID: <00d001c49dd4$7382dc40$6401a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> From: To: , , Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 18:08:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ns0.secureanonymous.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tjhawkins.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Please explain. X-BeenThere: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD SMP implementation group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 23:08:51 -0000 2 Major Issues: - FreeBSD has a processor affinity design issue - The core kernel issues with FreeBSD is the horrible threading support.There is so much crap in FreeBSD kernel. The multithreading issue in freebsd has been delayed for nearly 6 years. They have just made work arounds, not fixing the actual problem. It seems that the only real BSD that has made big progress on the core issues is DragonflyBSD. It appears that FreeBSD have a clear Multi-threading lock-in issue that needs to be fixed. Not work arounds. According to many freebsd developers nobody simply wants to fix this, is it true that the current smp work are just 'work-arounds' not real fixing? The only thing holding FreeBSD back is the Multithreading issue. Please clarify this.