From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 22 18:46:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5DB116A4CE for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 18:46:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from marvin.muc.de (marvin.muc.de [193.149.48.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 07CFD43D54 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 18:46:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mod-submit@uni-berlin.de) Received: (qmail 8059 invoked by alias); 22 Nov 2004 18:46:36 -0000 Delivered-To: mods-muc-lists-freebsd-smp@moderators.muc.de Received: (qmail 8052 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2004 18:46:36 -0000 Received: from mail.fu-berlin.de (130.133.1.2) by marvin.muc.de with SMTP; 22 Nov 2004 18:46:36 -0000 Received: by Mail.FU-Berlin.DE (Exim 4.42) from curry.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([160.45.10.36]) for muc-lists-freebsd-smp@moderators.muc.de with esmtp id <1CWJCt-0007p3-BP>; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 19:46:35 +0100 Received: by Curry.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (Smail3.2.0.98) from news.uni-berlin.de with bsmtp id ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 19:46:35 +0100 (MET) To: muc-lists-freebsd-smp@moderators.muc.de Path: not-for-mail From: AC Newsgroups: muc.lists.freebsd.smp Date: 22 Nov 2004 18:46:34 GMT Organization: The Tao of Cow Lines: 10 Message-ID: X-Orig-X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de lcQgbOt6H204tuJPGgOsPwnjlxRhre6oQL1up7OPHbdAMIveeC User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.0 (Linux) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 14:19:34 +0000 Subject: SMP on Older Hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: mightymartianca@hotmail.com List-Id: FreeBSD SMP implementation group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 18:46:39 -0000 I've got an old dual processor box (two 233mhz Pentiums) running Linux with a 2.4.22 kernel. I was thinking of trying FreeBSD. Will FreeBSD support this older configuration? -- Aaron Clausen mightymartianca@hotmail.com "My illness is due to my doctor's insistence that I drink milk, a whitish fluid they force down helpless babies." - WC Fields From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 23 19:20:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A47E716A4F5 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:20:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail6.speakeasy.net (mail6.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D4CD43D49 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:20:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 5221 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2004 19:20:14 -0000 Received: from dsl027-160-063.atl1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) encrypted SMTP for ; 23 Nov 2004 19:20:14 -0000 Received: from [10.50.41.235] (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iANJJnrW036800; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 14:20:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.org, mightymartianca@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:43:53 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200411231143.53682.jhb@FreeBSD.org> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on server.baldwin.cx cc: muc-lists-freebsd-smp@moderators.muc.de Subject: Re: SMP on Older Hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD SMP implementation group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:20:35 -0000 On Monday 22 November 2004 01:46 pm, AC wrote: > I've got an old dual processor box (two 233mhz Pentiums) running Linux with > a 2.4.22 kernel. I was thinking of trying FreeBSD. Will FreeBSD support > this older configuration? It should work fine, but the SMP code in 5.x isn't well tested on certain older MP Tables, so there's a chance it might only work with SMP disabled for now until I can fix the problems with older MP Tables. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 23 19:20:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E6FA16A510 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:20:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from marvin.muc.de (marvin.muc.de [193.149.48.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6193F43D3F for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:20:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 28431 invoked by alias); 23 Nov 2004 19:20:17 -0000 Delivered-To: mods-muc-lists-freebsd-smp@moderators.muc.de Received: (qmail 28424 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2004 19:20:17 -0000 Received: from mail6.speakeasy.net (216.254.0.206) by marvin.muc.de with SMTP; 23 Nov 2004 19:20:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 5221 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2004 19:20:14 -0000 Received: from dsl027-160-063.atl1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) encrypted SMTP for ; 23 Nov 2004 19:20:14 -0000 Received: from [10.50.41.235] (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iANJJnrW036800; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 14:20:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.org, mightymartianca@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:43:53 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200411231143.53682.jhb@FreeBSD.org> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on server.baldwin.cx cc: muc-lists-freebsd-smp@moderators.muc.de Subject: Re: SMP on Older Hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD SMP implementation group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:20:36 -0000 On Monday 22 November 2004 01:46 pm, AC wrote: > I've got an old dual processor box (two 233mhz Pentiums) running Linux with > a 2.4.22 kernel. I was thinking of trying FreeBSD. Will FreeBSD support > this older configuration? It should work fine, but the SMP code in 5.x isn't well tested on certain older MP Tables, so there's a chance it might only work with SMP disabled for now until I can fix the problems with older MP Tables. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 23 16:04:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC0B016A4CF for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:04:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from marvin.muc.de (marvin.muc.de [193.149.48.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BDFEA43D55 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:04:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: (qmail 9071 invoked by alias); 23 Nov 2004 16:04:30 -0000 Delivered-To: mods-muc-lists-freebsd-smp@moderators.muc.de Received: (qmail 9064 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2004 16:04:29 -0000 Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (134.173.32.75) by marvin.muc.de with SMTP; 23 Nov 2004 16:04:29 -0000 Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id iANG4ag5031678; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:04:36 -0800 Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0/Submit) id iANG4aRr031677; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:04:36 -0800 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:04:36 -0800 From: Brooks Davis To: AC Message-ID: <20041123160436.GA30833@odin.ac.hmc.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=8.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on odin.ac.hmc.edu X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 13:45:58 +0000 cc: muc-lists-freebsd-smp@moderators.muc.de Subject: Re: SMP on Older Hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD SMP implementation group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:04:32 -0000 --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 06:46:34PM +0000, AC wrote: > I've got an old dual processor box (two 233mhz Pentiums) running Linux wi= th > a 2.4.22 kernel. I was thinking of trying FreeBSD. Will FreeBSD support > this older configuration? It ought to in theory. I'm sure it's not well tested though. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBo1+TXY6L6fI4GtQRAjt9AJ4leYX/exzTMeFv7T44h2nFGvbNLACfVYG/ jN2KuH/Eu22oGOwWntx1h+M= =RwQM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG-- From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 23 18:05:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C7116A4CE for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 18:05:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from marvin.muc.de (marvin.muc.de [193.149.48.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C9A3643D1D for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 18:05:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: (qmail 20622 invoked by alias); 23 Nov 2004 18:05:30 -0000 Delivered-To: mods-muc-lists-freebsd-smp@moderators.muc.de Received: (qmail 20615 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2004 18:05:30 -0000 Received: from cpe0050040655c8-cm00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com (HELO obsecurity.dyndns.org) (69.194.102.143) by marvin.muc.de with SMTP; 23 Nov 2004 18:05:30 -0000 Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 56B5351310; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:09:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:09:35 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: AC Message-ID: <20041123180935.GA91215@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 13:45:58 +0000 cc: muc-lists-freebsd-smp@moderators.muc.de Subject: Re: SMP on Older Hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD SMP implementation group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 18:05:32 -0000 --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 06:46:34PM +0000, AC wrote: > I've got an old dual processor box (two 233mhz Pentiums) running Linux with > a 2.4.22 kernel. I was thinking of trying FreeBSD. Will FreeBSD support > this older configuration? Yes. Kris --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBo3zfWry0BWjoQKURAuA/AJ92uC2dOeWQFoh94dxpn5tx1d75MQCfbTW+ xUmYL2tMBaMT+PxaP40nbMo= =PlCo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7-- From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 25 08:11:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D3D016A4CE for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2004 08:11:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bender.bawue.de (bender.bawue.de [193.7.176.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A327143D69 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2004 08:11:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from migieger@bawue.de) Received: from luva.home (AVelizy-152-1-51-9.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.120.253.9]) by bender.bawue.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFA935C0AA for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2004 09:11:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from luva.home (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by luva.home (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iAP7fO9h002451 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2004 08:41:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from migieger@luva.home) Received: (from migieger@localhost) by luva.home (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id iAP7fOFX002450 for freebsd-smp@freebsd.org; Thu, 25 Nov 2004 08:41:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from migieger) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 08:41:24 +0100 From: Michael Giegerich To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041125074124.GA2375@luva.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/605/Wed Nov 24 15:09:47 2004 clamav-milter version 0.80j on luva.home X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: [5.3R] IBM Netfinity 3500 M20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD SMP implementation group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 08:11:12 -0000 Just reading topic 4.2.16 of the installation instructions for 5.3R: onboard ethernet will not work on (dual?) Net- finities 3500 :-( Will this be resolved (is anybody working on it) in the future? Just in case some IBM guys are reading this list: would somebody working at IBM consider to push/convince the BIOS people to release a BIOS for this machine without the broken MP table? -- M. Giegerich, mail: migieger@web.de, phone: +33.(0)1.39692920 From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 24 22:58:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 141B616A4CE for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 22:58:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from marvin.muc.de (marvin.muc.de [193.149.48.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2313843D46 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 22:58:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mod-submit@uni-berlin.de) Received: (qmail 67065 invoked by alias); 24 Nov 2004 22:58:49 -0000 Delivered-To: mods-muc-lists-freebsd-smp@moderators.muc.de Received: (qmail 67058 invoked from network); 24 Nov 2004 22:58:49 -0000 Received: from mail.fu-berlin.de (130.133.1.2) by marvin.muc.de with SMTP; 24 Nov 2004 22:58:49 -0000 Received: by Mail.FU-Berlin.DE (Exim 4.42) from curry.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([160.45.10.36]) for muc-lists-freebsd-smp@moderators.muc.de with esmtp id <1CX664-000PFv-W2>; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 23:58:49 +0100 Received: by Curry.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (Smail3.2.0.98) from news.uni-berlin.de with bsmtp id ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 23:58:48 +0100 (MET) To: muc-lists-freebsd-smp@moderators.muc.de Path: not-for-mail From: AC Newsgroups: muc.lists.freebsd.smp Date: 24 Nov 2004 22:58:47 GMT Organization: The Tao of Cow Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <20041123160436.GA30833@odin.ac.hmc.edu> X-Orig-X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de ul8vJu7HkbMuClicwj9czwOJd6FHpLId3rNd4X46vFgvSUtguq User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.0 (Linux) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 13:24:13 +0000 Subject: Re: SMP on Older Hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: mightymartianca@hotmail.com List-Id: FreeBSD SMP implementation group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 22:58:52 -0000 On 24 Nov 2004 14:48:40 +0100, Brooks Davis wrote: > > --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 06:46:34PM +0000, AC wrote: >> I've got an old dual processor box (two 233mhz Pentiums) running Linux wi= > th >> a 2.4.22 kernel. I was thinking of trying FreeBSD. Will FreeBSD support >> this older configuration? > > It ought to in theory. I'm sure it's not well tested though. I love resoundingly positive answers :-) I'll give it a try this weekend. thanks for all your answers! -- Aaron Clausen mightymartianca@hotmail.com "My illness is due to my doctor's insistence that I drink milk, a whitish fluid they force down helpless babies." - WC Fields