From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 10 15:04:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0CD16A4CE; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 15:04:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.revolutionsp.com (ganymede.revolutionsp.com [64.246.0.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0A6943D3F; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 15:04:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from klr@6s-gaming.com) Received: from mail.revolutionsp.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.revolutionsp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C4615C95; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 06:00:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from 194.210.13.66 (SquirrelMail authenticated user klr@6s-gaming.com); by mail.revolutionsp.com with HTTP; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 06:00:32 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <36661.194.210.13.66.1102680032.squirrel@194.210.13.66> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 06:00:32 -0600 (CST) From: klr@6s-gaming.com To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: [Fwd: HTT/SMP servers instability on 5.3-STABLE] X-BeenThere: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD SMP implementation group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 15:04:54 -0000 Hi, I have a Dual Xeon 2.4 and a Dual Xeon 2.8 servers running with HyperThreading, ACPI, and SMP enabled. The 2.8 server won't stand for more than 5 days without crashing, and the 2.4 server was up 30 days crashed, now was up 12 days, and crashed. I didn't have a debugging kernel, I'll be building one when the datacenter reboots the server. I also don't have any panic messages.. I have, however, a few questions: - machdep.cpu_idle_hlt - I've seen a lot on google about this sysctl, but still don't fully understand it. What does this sysctl really changes? - HyperThreading - Do I really have a performance increase with HTT turned on? I've heard it can penalize performance because the scheduler isn't optimized for logical CPUs. Does having HTT enabled impacts the stability of the system? - ACPI - I'll be disabling ACPI along with HTT to see if the server doesn't crash for awhile. Is ACPI on 5.3-STABLE (around November 1st, it was pre-release) still a problem? Last but not the least, my 5.3-STABLE version is from a few days before the release. Since I had created a few jails by then, I didn't upgrade the system to use the -RELEASE. Was there any last-standing problem a few days before the release that could be causing my instability problems? Please share some common dual processor system knowledge, perhaps I'm missing something really obvious and making these servers unstable. Regards, Hugo From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 10 16:29:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7766E16A4CE; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 16:29:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.revolutionsp.com (ganymede.revolutionsp.com [64.246.0.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA9D43D2F; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 16:29:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from klr@6s-gaming.com) Received: from mail.revolutionsp.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.revolutionsp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B962E15C95; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 07:24:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from 81.84.175.77 (SquirrelMail authenticated user klr@6s-gaming.com); by mail.revolutionsp.com with HTTP; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 07:24:42 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <56564.81.84.175.77.1102685082.squirrel@81.84.175.77> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 07:24:42 -0600 (CST) From: klr@6s-gaming.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: HTT/SMP servers instability on 5.3-STABLE] X-BeenThere: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD SMP implementation group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 16:29:04 -0000 Hi, I have a Dual Xeon 2.4 and a Dual Xeon 2.8 servers running with HyperThreading, ACPI, and SMP enabled. The 2.8 server won't stand for more than 5 days without crashing, and the 2.4 server was up 30 days crashed, now was up 12 days, and crashed. I didn't have a debugging kernel, I'll be building one when the datacenter reboots the server. I also don't have any panic messages.. I have, however, a few questions: - machdep.cpu_idle_hlt - I've seen a lot on google about this sysctl, but still don't fully understand it. What does this sysctl really changes? - HyperThreading - Do I really have a performance increase with HTT turned on? I've heard it can penalize performance because the scheduler isn't optimized for logical CPUs. Does having HTT enabled impacts the stability of the system? - ACPI - I'll be disabling ACPI along with HTT to see if the server doesn't crash for awhile. Is ACPI on 5.3-STABLE (around November 1st, it was pre-release) still a problem? Last but not the least, my 5.3-STABLE version is from a few days before the release. Since I had created a few jails by then, I didn't upgrade the system to use the -RELEASE. Was there any last-standing problem a few days before the release that could be causing my instability problems? Please share some common dual processor system knowledge, perhaps I'm missing something really obvious and making these servers unstable. Regards, Hugo From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 10 17:36:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFC3816A4CE; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 17:36:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.revolutionsp.com (ganymede.revolutionsp.com [64.246.0.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ACD243D39; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 17:36:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from klr@6s-gaming.com) Received: from mail.revolutionsp.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.revolutionsp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21F6115C95; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 08:32:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from 81.84.175.77 (SquirrelMail authenticated user klr@6s-gaming.com); by mail.revolutionsp.com with HTTP; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 08:32:28 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <56637.81.84.175.77.1102689148.squirrel@81.84.175.77> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 08:32:28 -0600 (CST) From: klr@6s-gaming.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-smp@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: HTT/SMP Dual Xeon systems unstable X-BeenThere: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD SMP implementation group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 17:36:50 -0000 Hi, I'm sorry for typing this mail for the third time, I'm not sure if the other mails did reach the list. The domain I was using to send emails has just expired. Please cc me, as I'm not subscribed to the list with this email. I have a Dual Xeon 2.4 and a Dual Xeon 2.8 servers running with HyperThreading, ACPI, and SMP enabled. The 2.8 server won't stand for more than 5 days without crashing, and the 2.4 server was up 30 days crashed, now was up 12 days, and crashed. I didn't have a debugging kernel, I'll be building one when the datacenter reboots the server. I also don't have any panic messages.. I have, however, a few questions: - machdep.cpu_idle_hlt - I've seen a lot on google about this sysctl, but still don't fully understand it. What does this sysctl really changes? - HyperThreading - Do I really have a performance increase with HTT turned on? I've heard it can penalize performance because the scheduler isn't optimized for logical CPUs. Does having HTT enabled impacts the stability of the system? - ACPI - I'll be disabling ACPI along with HTT to see if the server doesn't crash for awhile. Is ACPI on 5.3-STABLE (around November 1st, it was pre-release) still a problem? Last but not the least, my 5.3-STABLE version is from a few days before the release. Since I had created a few jails by then, I didn't upgrade the system to use the -RELEASE. Was there any last-standing problem a few days before the release that could be causing my instability problems? Please share some common dual processor system knowledge, perhaps I'm missing something really obvious and making these servers unstable. Regards, Hugo