From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 06:14:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A88516A4CE; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 06:14:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from sirius.firepipe.net (sirius.firepipe.net [69.13.116.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C800C43D41; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 06:14:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from will@csociety.org) Received: by sirius.firepipe.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 56A0B17CE3; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 08:14:44 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 09:14:44 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040118141444.GG51708@sirius.firepipe.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8EXHJdkEfksMlRxO" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: buildadm@jp.freebsd.org cc: re@freebsd.org Subject: Fix make release for 4-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:14:45 -0000 --8EXHJdkEfksMlRxO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (not subscribed to stable@ - please cc: - thanks.) Hello, For about 2 months now, 'make release' on 4-STABLE has been broken by overflowing the floppy for BOOTMFS, as shown here: http://snapshots.se.freebsd.org/i386/4.9-STABLE-20040113-SESNAP.log ftp://snapshots.jp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386/4.9-STABLE-200401= 18-JPSNAP.log I have fixed this locally. release: http://snapshots.se.freebsd.org/i386/4.9-STABLE-20040118-SESNAP/ patch: http://firepipe.net/patches/dokern.sh.diff This patch removes the parallel port support and USB mouse and firewire ethernet. Regards, --=20 wca --8EXHJdkEfksMlRxO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFACpTTF47idPgWcsURAnBHAJ9H70/ipdoXcTYqRSF5CAtIQLqxwwCdGpdm sLqGx2Rq6sDV9eRyuHHR1os= =g/UD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8EXHJdkEfksMlRxO-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 06:53:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1AE216A4CE; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 06:53:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from castle.jp.FreeBSD.org (castle.jp.FreeBSD.org [210.226.20.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094D543D1D; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 06:53:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [::1])i0IEpoC92325; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:51:50 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) In-Reply-To: <20040118141444.GG51708@sirius.firepipe.net> References: <20040118141444.GG51708@sirius.firepipe.net> X-User-Agent: Mew/1.94.2 Emacs/21.3 X-FaceAnim: (-O_O-)(O_O- )(_O- )(O- )(- -)( -O)( -O_)( -O_O)(-O_O-) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Dispatcher: imput version 20030322(IM144) Lines: 22 From: Makoto Matsushita To: will@csociety.org Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:51:48 +0900 Message-Id: <20040118235148M.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: re@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fix make release for 4-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:53:12 -0000 will> This patch removes the parallel port support and USB mouse and will> firewire ethernet. My three comments about this: 1) It's hard to decide that we can say goodbye to plip (plip is not provided as a kernel module), since it is supported on 4.x-RELEASE fora long time. 2) Removing 'fwe' shouldn't work here; it is already removed from the boot kernel :-) See src/release/i386/drivers.conf. 3) USB mouse driver can be moved to mfsroot.flp as a kernel module. drivers.conf and associated tools will do that. It seems that there's enough space to put another modules on mfsroot.flp, so move it to there makes no functional changes. Anyway, thank you for trying to fix this issue. -- - Makoto `MAR' Matsushita From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 14:56:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD39D16A4CE for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:56:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from gw.opentable.com (gw.opentable.com [63.89.164.120]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3C37143D2D for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:56:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from efreis@opentable.com) Received: (qmail 56252 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2004 22:56:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.opentable.com) (10.0.0.6) by ns1.opentable.com.ot with SMTP; 18 Jan 2004 22:56:04 -0000 Received: by mail.opentable.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:54:29 -0800 Message-ID: <34BD9C97B714D511B01C00D0B73EC07303EEE65C@mail.opentable.com> From: Elliott Freis To: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:54:28 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: RE: Odd lag/hanging issue with production ftp server - Please hel p AS AP! X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 22:56:12 -0000 Perfect, the solution was indeed to set it to full duplex. My Arrowpoint was set to full duplex, and I did not have the mediaopt set at all. This corrected the lag. Thanks to all who responded, you hit the nail on the head. -Elliott -----Original Message----- From: Sean Winn [mailto:sean@gothic.net.au] Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 8:06 AM To: Elliott Freis Subject: Re: Odd lag/hanging issue with production ftp server - Please help AS AP! Elliott Freis wrote: > I am forwarding this to this list per recommendation. > > > Note on recent test: Trying to do a transfer on the public LAN off the ftp > server, I am only able to get a bursty 20k/s! down from the ftp server. > This was with nfs completely unmounted, ftping from a local drive so its not > an NFS problem. It should get a full 2-3mb a sec at least. It used to. Up > is still full speed. The machine has a Intel pro NIC, direct to a Cisco > ArrowPoint. Both are set to 100 FD. ifconfig_fxp2="inet 66.151.XXX.XXX > netmask 255.255.255.224 media 100baseTX" > ifconfig fxp2 media 100baseTX usually only does half-duplex, not full-duplex ifconfig fxp2 media 100basetx mediaopt full-duplex is probably what you're looking for > Any help GREATLY appreciated, I have exhausted all avenues I can think of, > including hardware swaps. Here is some diag: > > last pid: 49903; load averages: 0.12, 0.20, 0.25 > up 0+15:19:19 14:19:00 > 73 processes: 1 running, 72 sleeping > CPU states: 1.4% user, 0.0% nice, 17.1% system, 2.3% interrupt, 79.2% > idle > Mem: 24M Active, 1233M Inact, 178M Wired, 68M Cache, 163M Buf, 3600K Free > Swap: 1024M Total, 12K Used, 1024M Free > > 353/17120/262144 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): > 271 mbufs allocated to data > 82 mbufs allocated to packet headers > 213/16806/65536 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) > 37892 Kbytes allocated to network (19% of mb_map in use) > 0 requests for memory denied > 0 requests for memory delayed > 0 calls to protocol drain routines > > Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs > Coll > fxp2 1500 00:02:a5:13:fc:b5 30214691 0 22672636 0 > 589096 > fxp2 1500 66.151.XXX.XXX ftp 30150589 - 22683851 > - - > fxp2 1500 fe80:3::202 fe80:3::202:a5ff: 0 - 0 - > - > > >> -----Original Message----- >>From: Elliott Freis >>Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 3:28 PM >>To: 'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG' >>Subject: Odd lag/hanging issue with production ftp server - Please >>help ASAP! >> >> I have been struggling with this one for over a month now. Here is a >>quick layout of my setup: >> >>Primary FTP server: >>Compaq DL380 1.5gb ram >>FreeBSD 4.5 >>3x36gb RAID 5 drives as local boot/storage >>ProFTPd >> >>Array server for FTP: >>AMD Athlon 2200 512mb ram >>FreeBSD 4.8 >>7x36gb Fiber channel drives, RAID 5 via Vinum. >> >>Both machines are connected via a cross-over cable, that has been tested >>good and swapped just in case. The primary storage for FTP is done on the >>Fiber drives via nfs from FTP to Array server. NFS options are -U -3. >> >>My problem is this. As more users connect and store files, the primary >>FTP machine becomes increasingly unresponsive. Currently, I max at about >>350 concurrent FTP connections. The most basic test I have been doing is >>just holding down enter on an SSH session. As you hold enter down, you >>see it visually just hang for a second or more (up to about 5 seconds >>depending on the load). It is even worse if I spam "df -k" for example. >>For part of the time, it responds fine, though its randomly a second to >>multiple seconds. In other words, it is randomly responsive and not >>responsive every 5 seconds or so. During the "hanging" time, ftp sessions >>are also hung. So you see very bursty data transfers. Now thankfully, no >>ftp sessions drop, so we do get the data we need. But this is a terrible >>thing to be happening to a production server. >> >> One other thing of note, this happened to me about 4-5 months ago, but a >>reboot fixed it for some reason. So I concluded it was just a hiccup. >>But it has returned after a different reboot, and won't go away. >> >> Any help in troubleshooting this is very appreciated! Happy new year, >> >> -Elliott >> >>Example of "enter" latency (this is from a LAN connection): >>At shell prompt ">" >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 00:08:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0748416A4CE for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 00:08:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from neuron.tuke.sk (neuron-ai.fei.tuke.sk [147.232.24.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3B3143D2F for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 00:08:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from babjak@neuron.tuke.sk) Received: from babjak by neuron.tuke.sk with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AiUSO-0002Zq-00 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 09:08:24 +0100 Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 09:08:24 +0100 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040119080824.GA9019@neuron.tuke.sk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i From: Jozef Babjak Subject: problem with mounting cd: "cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Invalid argument:" X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: babjak@neuron.tuke.sk List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 08:08:29 -0000 Hi, when I try to mount data cd (not audio), I obtain following error: [root]{~}<8:43:19>mount /cdrom cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Invalid argument [root]{~}<8:43:26> There is a line in the /etc/fstab file for my cd-rom: [root]{~}<8:47:19>grep cdrom /etc/fstab /dev/acd0c /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 [root]{~}<8:47:27> My cdrom is connected like secondary master: [root]{~}<8:48:44>dmesg | grep acd0 acd0: CD-RW at ata1-master UDMA33 [root]{~}<8:49:03> Devices in /dev directory seem to be OK: [root]{~}<8:51:49>ls -l /dev | egrep acd crw-r----- 4 root operator 117, 0 Jan 19 08:40 acd0a crw-r----- 4 root operator 117, 0 Jan 19 08:40 acd0c crw-r----- 4 root operator 117, 0 Jan 19 08:40 racd0a crw-r----- 4 root operator 117, 0 Jan 19 08:40 racd0c [root]{~}<8:52:07> Finally, file-system entries in my kernel config file: options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem [...] device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering Kernel is compiled with this /etc/make.conf file: CPUTYPE=k7 CFLAGS= -O -pipe COPTFLAGS= -O -pipe My system is: [babjak]{~}<8:56:14>uname -a FreeBSD cronin.chtf.stuba.sk 4.9-STABLE FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE #0: Mon Jan 19 08:18:25 CET 2004 root@cronin.chtf.stuba.sk:/usr/src/sys/compile/KERONIN i386 [babjak]{~}<8:58:33> This problem starts after upgrading 4.9-RELEASE to 4.9-STABLE via CVSup /src/sys source tree and make buildworld/buildkernel/installkernel/installworld (kernel and rest system are sync). Before upgrade mentioned above everything worked well. I run 'MAKEDEV all' from mergemaster after installing new kernel & world. I forgot something? Thank you for any advices. Jozef Babjak. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 01:28:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6913716A4CE; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 01:28:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from phantom.cris.net (phantom.cris.net [212.110.130.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6042543D1F; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 01:27:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org.ua) Received: from phantom.cris.net (ru@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phantom.cris.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0J9SRjm041407; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:28:28 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by phantom.cris.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i0J9SKm8041394; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:28:20 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:28:19 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Makoto Matsushita Message-ID: <20040119092819.GA41159@FreeBSD.org.ua> References: <20040118141444.GG51708@sirius.firepipe.net> <20040118235148M.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040118235148M.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: re@freebsd.org cc: will@csociety.org Subject: Re: Fix make release for 4-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 09:28:00 -0000 --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 18, 2004 at 11:51:48PM +0900, Makoto Matsushita wrote: >=20 > will> This patch removes the parallel port support and USB mouse and > will> firewire ethernet. >=20 > My three comments about this: >=20 > 1) It's hard to decide that we can say goodbye to plip (plip is not > provided as a kernel module), since it is supported on 4.x-RELEASE > fora long time. >=20 > 2) Removing 'fwe' shouldn't work here; it is already removed from the > boot kernel :-) See src/release/i386/drivers.conf. >=20 > 3) USB mouse driver can be moved to mfsroot.flp as a kernel module. > drivers.conf and associated tools will do that. It seems that > there's enough space to put another modules on mfsroot.flp, so move > it to there makes no functional changes. >=20 > Anyway, thank you for trying to fix this issue. >=20 Maybe it's time for drivers.flp to appear on RELENG_4? If someone could MFC the support to sysinstall, I could help with release/ bits. Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov FreeBSD committer ru@FreeBSD.org --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAC6MzUkv4P6juNwoRArhyAJ9+CDQkbpTZ6RZ26PD0W8XcVk6hcwCfbEqg XIY5qIJ20i76x2Q9JgHWGa0= =+3fF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 01:47:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D722516A4CE for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 01:47:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from tx1.oucs.ox.ac.uk (tx1.oucs.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.167]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB1A243D48 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 01:47:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from colin.percival@wadham.ox.ac.uk) Received: from scan1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([129.67.1.166] helo=localhost) by tx1.oucs.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AiW0h-0006GD-Iq for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 09:47:55 +0000 Received: from rx1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([129.67.1.165]) by localhost (scan1.oucs.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.166]) (amavisd-new, port 25) with ESMTP id 23950-05 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 09:47:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gateway.wadham.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.161.253]) by rx1.oucs.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AiW0g-0006EA-54 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 09:47:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 6933 invoked by uid 0); 19 Jan 2004 09:47:54 -0000 Received: from colin.percival@wadham.ox.ac.uk by gateway by uid 71 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (sweep: 2.14/3.71. spamassassin: 2.53. 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Processed in 1.360349 secs) Received: from dhcp1131.wadham.ox.ac.uk (HELO piii600.wadham.ox.ac.uk) (163.1.161.131) by gateway.wadham.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 19 Jan 2004 09:47:52 -0000 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.1.20040119094517.04743ea8@imap.sfu.ca> X-Sender: cperciva@imap.sfu.ca (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 09:47:45 +0000 To: Ruslan Ermilov From: Colin Percival In-Reply-To: <20040119092819.GA41159@FreeBSD.org.ua> References: <20040118141444.GG51708@sirius.firepipe.net> <20040118235148M.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <20040119092819.GA41159@FreeBSD.org.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fix make release for 4-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 09:47:59 -0000 At 09:28 19/01/2004, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: >Maybe it's time for drivers.flp to appear on RELENG_4? If someone >could MFC the support to sysinstall, I could help with release/ >bits. I've already mentioned this to re@, but if there's a real need for space-saving, using NetBSD's makefs (ports/sysutils/makefs) saves about 23k on the mfsroot floppy. Colin Percival From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 01:55:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA13716A4CE; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 01:55:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc5.i.0x5.de (reverse-213-146-113-119.dialin.kamp-dsl.de [213.146.113.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B4343D49; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 01:54:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nicolas@dauerreden.de) Received: from pc5.i.0x5.de (nicolas@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pc5.i.0x5.de (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i0J9srqY043738; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 10:54:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nicolas@pc5.i.0x5.de) Received: (from nicolas@localhost) by pc5.i.0x5.de (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id i0J9srI6043737; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 10:54:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nicolas) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 10:54:53 +0100 From: Nicolas Rachinsky To: Ruslan Ermilov Message-ID: <20040119095453.GA43280@pc5.i.0x5.de> Mail-Followup-To: Ruslan Ermilov , Makoto Matsushita , stable@freebsd.org, re@freebsd.org, will@csociety.org References: <20040118141444.GG51708@sirius.firepipe.net> <20040118235148M.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <20040119092819.GA41159@FreeBSD.org.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040119092819.GA41159@FreeBSD.org.ua> X-Powered-by: FreeBSD X-Homepage: http://www.rachinsky.de X-PGP-Keyid: C11ABC0E X-PGP-Fingerprint: 19DB 8392 8FE0 814A 7362 EEBD A53B 526A C11A BC0E X-PGP-Key: http://www.rachinsky.de/nicolas/nicolas_rachinsky.asc X-SECURITY: Never trust a running system User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i cc: Makoto Matsushita cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: re@freebsd.org cc: will@csociety.org Subject: Re: Fix make release for 4-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 09:55:01 -0000 * Ruslan Ermilov [2004-01-19 11:28 +0200]: > On Sun, Jan 18, 2004 at 11:51:48PM +0900, Makoto Matsushita wrote: > > My three comments about this: > > > > 1) It's hard to decide that we can say goodbye to plip (plip is not > > provided as a kernel module), since it is supported on 4.x-RELEASE > > fora long time. > > > > 2) Removing 'fwe' shouldn't work here; it is already removed from the > > boot kernel :-) See src/release/i386/drivers.conf. > > > > 3) USB mouse driver can be moved to mfsroot.flp as a kernel module. > > drivers.conf and associated tools will do that. It seems that > > there's enough space to put another modules on mfsroot.flp, so move > > it to there makes no functional changes. > > > > Anyway, thank you for trying to fix this issue. > > > Maybe it's time for drivers.flp to appear on RELENG_4? If someone > could MFC the support to sysinstall, I could help with release/ > bits. What about splitting the floppies? Splitfs support is already on the 4.9-RELEASE disks. Nicolas From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 02:28:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D70DF16A4CE for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 02:28:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from phantom.cris.net (phantom.cris.net [212.110.130.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 324CA43D54 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 02:28:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org.ua) Received: from phantom.cris.net (ru@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phantom.cris.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0JASljm042318; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:28:53 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by phantom.cris.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i0JASb9a042309; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:28:37 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:28:34 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Colin Percival Message-ID: <20040119102834.GD41159@FreeBSD.org.ua> References: <20040118141444.GG51708@sirius.firepipe.net> <20040118235148M.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <20040119092819.GA41159@FreeBSD.org.ua> <6.0.1.1.1.20040119094517.04743ea8@imap.sfu.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="JwB53PgKC5A7+0Ej" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.1.20040119094517.04743ea8@imap.sfu.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fix make release for 4-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 10:28:44 -0000 --JwB53PgKC5A7+0Ej Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 09:47:45AM +0000, Colin Percival wrote: > At 09:28 19/01/2004, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > >Maybe it's time for drivers.flp to appear on RELENG_4? If someone > >could MFC the support to sysinstall, I could help with release/ > >bits. >=20 > I've already mentioned this to re@, but if there's a real need > for space-saving, using NetBSD's makefs (ports/sysutils/makefs) >=20 Cool! At a glance it looks like what we need to fully support cross-arch releases, as it supports different byte-ordering. It could also be used to get us closer to "fixing" release/ to not require "root" privileges -- it could be a very useful feature for developers with non-root access on fast machine. ;) > saves about 23k on the mfsroot floppy. >=20 I wonder if this 23k difference is on 5-CURRENT or 4-STABLE, or both? If it is on 5-CURRENT only, does the following patch for FreeBSD's newfs(8) make any difference: %%% Index: mkfs.c =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sbin/newfs/mkfs.c,v retrieving revision 1.83 diff -u -r1.83 mkfs.c --- mkfs.c 27 Nov 2003 01:19:23 -0000 1.83 +++ mkfs.c 28 Nov 2003 09:33:11 -0000 @@ -324,7 +324,7 @@ for ( ; sblock.fs_fpg < maxblkspercg; sblock.fs_fpg +=3D sblock.fs_frag) { sblock.fs_ipg =3D roundup(howmany(sblock.fs_fpg, fragsperinode), INOPB(&sblock)); - if (sblock.fs_size / sblock.fs_fpg < MINCYLGRPS) + if (sblock.fs_size / sblock.fs_fpg < (Oflag =3D=3D 2 ? MINCYLGRPS : 1)) break; if (CGSIZE(&sblock) < (unsigned long)sblock.fs_bsize) continue; %%% If you don't bite me, I will try it myself. ;) Also, it would be nice to backport it to FreeBSD. And I suspect it doesn't work with UFS2, does it? (We don't need it for releases presently, but anyway.) Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov FreeBSD committer ru@FreeBSD.org --JwB53PgKC5A7+0Ej Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAC7FSUkv4P6juNwoRAkZwAJ4kV2wUpFnhuBXFt9iepH5ApLoW6wCfZ7gx jW+9kqHxZgwUIL+mMexNEjo= =gxHx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --JwB53PgKC5A7+0Ej-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 02:58:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B1DE16A4CF; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 02:58:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from castle.jp.FreeBSD.org (castle.jp.FreeBSD.org [210.226.20.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED90D43D3F; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 02:58:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [::1]) ESMTP/inet6 id i0JAwSC03191; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 19:58:28 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) In-Reply-To: <20040119095453.GA43280@pc5.i.0x5.de> References: <20040118235148M.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <20040119092819.GA41159@FreeBSD.org.ua> <20040119095453.GA43280@pc5.i.0x5.de> X-User-Agent: Mew/1.94.2 Emacs/21.3 X-FaceAnim: (-O_O-)(O_O- )(_O- )(O- )(- -)( -O)( -O_)( -O_O)(-O_O-) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Dispatcher: imput version 20030322(IM144) Lines: 23 From: Makoto Matsushita To: list@rachinsky.de Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 19:58:26 +0900 Message-Id: <20040119195826X.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> cc: matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org cc: re@freebsd.org cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: will@csociety.org Subject: Re: Fix make release for 4-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 10:58:31 -0000 list> What about splitting the floppies? Splitfs support is already on list> the 4.9-RELEASE disks. That would be a viable option, but the great downside of using splitfs is that all of splitted chunks are required for all users. In the current configuration, drivers.flp is an option; if you don't need to use modules in drivers.flp, you only need two floppies. If the kernel and/or mfsroot image are splitted into, say, three floppies, we have to have three floppies. Yes, floppies are so cheap to buy, but sometimes not handy you know. I believe that some of my friends said to me that "hey, I'm so tired to write THREE floppy images, it's so slow!" It would be technically easy to introduce splitfs for kernel/mfsroot (it is already there), but it also introduce an important design change. We should have enough time to consider that we decide the 3rd floppy image treats a mandatory one. -- - Makoto `MAR' Matsushita From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 03:39:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 744A016A4CE for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 03:39:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from xevious.kicks-ass.net (dsl093-025-119.hou1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.93.25.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE67543D45 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 03:39:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from skquinn@xevious.kicks-ass.net) Received: from xevious.kicks-ass.net (skquinn@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xevious.kicks-ass.net (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id i0JBkw8J015282 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 05:46:58 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from skquinn@xevious.kicks-ass.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by xevious.kicks-ass.net (8.12.10/8.12.6/Submit) id i0JBkvA2015281 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 05:46:57 -0600 (CST) From: "Shawn K. Quinn" To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 05:46:57 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <20040118235148M.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <20040119095453.GA43280@pc5.i.0x5.de> <20040119195826X.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20040119195826X.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200401190546.57312.skquinn@xevious.kicks-ass.net> Subject: Re: Fix make release for 4-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:39:58 -0000 On Monday 2004 January 19 04:58, Makoto Matsushita wrote: > Yes, floppies are so cheap to buy, but sometimes not handy you know. > I believe that some of my friends said to me that "hey, I'm so tired > to write THREE floppy images, it's so slow!" > > It would be technically easy to introduce splitfs for kernel/mfsroot > (it is already there), but it also introduce an important design > change. We should have enough time to consider that we decide the 3rd > floppy image treats a mandatory one. I suspect we will not have to deal with floppies for too much longer. It's pretty obvious that within a couple more years they will be completely replaced by CD-R media or similar things. So, having to use three (or four or five) floppy images is merely a sign that floppy disks are becoming less useful, and should not be viewed as a solution with any permanence. Floppies will certainly be very close to obsolete by 6.0-RELEASE, if not by the time of 5.4-RELEASE or thereabouts. (And, BTW, these days floppies are really not that cheap compared to even CD-RW media, if you evaluate them on a "per megabyte" basis.) -- Shawn K. Quinn From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 03:52:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43BE16A4CE for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 03:52:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from dilbert.firstcallgroup.co.uk (dilbert.firstcallgroup.co.uk [194.200.93.187]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB30C43D54 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 03:52:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from petefrench@keithprowse.com) Received: from petefrench by dilbert.firstcallgroup.co.uk with local (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1AiXx9-0000eU-Vj; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:52:23 +0000 To: skquinn@xevious.kicks-ass.net, stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200401190546.57312.skquinn@xevious.kicks-ass.net> Message-Id: From: Pete French Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:52:23 +0000 Subject: Re: Fix make release for 4-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:52:26 -0000 > It's pretty obvious that within a couple more years they will be > completely replaced by CD-R media or similar things. So, having to use You are assuming that you can boot from the CD-ROM, which isnt true on any of the machines I own for starters. Floppies are still very useful as a bootstapping tool - even Windows XP does it this way after all. It may take 6 floppies, but it enables you to get the OS onto a machine with just a boot floppy. -pcf. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 05:07:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B16BC16A4CE for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 05:07:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from saturn.criticalmagic.com (saturn.criticalmagic.com [68.213.16.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45D0143D41 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 05:07:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from richardcoleman@mindspring.com) Received: from mindspring.com (titan.criticalmagic.com [68.213.16.23]) by saturn.criticalmagic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 725693BD10 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 08:07:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <400BD685.3000906@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 08:07:17 -0500 From: Richard Coleman Organization: Critical Magic, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org References: <20040118235148M.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <20040119095453.GA43280@pc5.i.0x5.de> <20040119195826X.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <200401190546.57312.skquinn@xevious.kicks-ass.net> In-Reply-To: <200401190546.57312.skquinn@xevious.kicks-ass.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Fix make release for 4-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: richardcoleman@mindspring.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:07:04 -0000 Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > On Monday 2004 January 19 04:58, Makoto Matsushita wrote: > >>Yes, floppies are so cheap to buy, but sometimes not handy you know. >>I believe that some of my friends said to me that "hey, I'm so tired >>to write THREE floppy images, it's so slow!" >> >>It would be technically easy to introduce splitfs for kernel/mfsroot >>(it is already there), but it also introduce an important design >>change. We should have enough time to consider that we decide the 3rd >>floppy image treats a mandatory one. > > > I suspect we will not have to deal with floppies for too much longer. > It's pretty obvious that within a couple more years they will be > completely replaced by CD-R media or similar things. So, having to use > three (or four or five) floppy images is merely a sign that floppy > disks are becoming less useful, and should not be viewed as a solution > with any permanence. Floppies will certainly be very close to obsolete > by 6.0-RELEASE, if not by the time of 5.4-RELEASE or thereabouts. > > (And, BTW, these days floppies are really not that cheap compared to > even CD-RW media, if you evaluate them on a "per megabyte" basis.) I agree with you when talking about the desktop environment. But for the server environment with many headless rack-mounted servers, I don't think that will be true any time soon. There are literally hundreds of thousands of such servers out there, and they won't be replaced any time soon. For many such folks, pxeboot is a better option, if available. But not all machines support this (although I suspect this number is much smaller than number of machines without cdrom). Richard Coleman richardcoleman@mindspring.com From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 13:06:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98F8116A4CE for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:06:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD1843D7C for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:06:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kblists@mail.comcast.net) Received: from juno (h00045a2a945a.ne.client2.attbi.com[66.31.245.154]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <20040119210645012003a47he>; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 21:06:45 +0000 Message-ID: <002801c3ded0$2512aa90$0432a8c0@kberrien.isageek.net> From: "Kevin Berrien" To: References: <20040115215208.O386@freeman.4gh.net> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:06:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: Re: 4.9-Stable: Disk error booting from hard drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 21:06:50 -0000 That makes, what, 4 people with the same problem. Errata time I would assume. How does an issue get in the file? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Max Clark" To: Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 5:46 PM Subject: Re: 4.9-Stable: Disk error booting from hard drive > Stuart Barkley wrote: > > See the recent -stable thread "Install bug - 4.9 stable - post install > > circular reboot" > > Thanks, that solved the problem. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 17:43:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51AF416A4CE for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 17:43:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from tx1.oucs.ox.ac.uk (tx1.oucs.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.167]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A98E143D2F for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 17:43:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from colin.percival@wadham.ox.ac.uk) Received: from scan1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([129.67.1.166] helo=localhost) by tx1.oucs.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aikvj-0006nI-ID for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 01:43:47 +0000 Received: from rx1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([129.67.1.165]) by localhost (scan1.oucs.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.166]) (amavisd-new, port 25) with ESMTP id 25975-04 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 01:43:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gateway.wadham.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.161.253]) by rx1.oucs.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aikvj-0006me-4G for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 01:43:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 13899 invoked by uid 0); 20 Jan 2004 01:43:47 -0000 Received: from colin.percival@wadham.ox.ac.uk by gateway by uid 71 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (sweep: 2.14/3.71. spamassassin: 2.53. Clear:. Processed in 1.672715 secs); 20 Jan 2004 01:43:47 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: colin.percival@wadham.ox.ac.uk via gateway X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.16 (Clear:. Processed in 1.672715 secs) Received: from dhcp1131.wadham.ox.ac.uk (HELO piii600.wadham.ox.ac.uk) (163.1.161.131) by gateway.wadham.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 20 Jan 2004 01:43:45 -0000 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.1.20040120013116.0481d2c8@imap.sfu.ca> X-Sender: cperciva@imap.sfu.ca (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 01:43:42 +0000 To: Ruslan Ermilov From: Colin Percival In-Reply-To: <20040119102834.GD41159@FreeBSD.org.ua> References: <20040118141444.GG51708@sirius.firepipe.net> <20040118235148M.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <20040119092819.GA41159@FreeBSD.org.ua> <6.0.1.1.1.20040119094517.04743ea8@imap.sfu.ca> <20040119102834.GD41159@FreeBSD.org.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: Colin Percival Subject: Re: Fix make release for 4-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 01:43:52 -0000 At 10:28 19/01/2004, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: >On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 09:47:45AM +0000, Colin Percival wrote: > > I've already mentioned this to re@, but if there's a real need > > for space-saving, using NetBSD's makefs (ports/sysutils/makefs) > > >Cool! At a glance it looks like what we need to fully support >cross-arch releases, as it supports different byte-ordering. That's what NetBSD uses it for. :) >It could also be used to get us closer to "fixing" release/ to not >require "root" privileges -- it could be a very useful feature for >developers with non-root access on fast machine. ;) Not really -- `make release` needs to chroot, and non-root users can't do that. > > saves about 23k on the mfsroot floppy. > > >I wonder if this 23k difference is on 5-CURRENT or 4-STABLE, or both? >If it is on 5-CURRENT only, does the following patch for FreeBSD's >newfs(8) make any difference: >[snip] >If you don't bite me, I will try it myself. ;) You'd better try it yourself -- I don't have convenient access to a machine for release-building right now. >Also, it would be nice to backport it to FreeBSD. Isn't the port good enough? Many people seem to have an urge to add stuff into base, but all that does is create more work. > And I suspect >it doesn't work with UFS2, does it? (We don't need it for releases >presently, but anyway.) It does: makefs -o version=2 foo.img /path/to/files/ Colin Percival From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 21:58:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D8616A4CE for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 21:58:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.mail.ru (mx2.mail.ru [194.67.23.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 225FC43D2F for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 21:58:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pavelbsd@mail.ru) Received: from [213.242.59.10] (port=2477 helo=host157.int.ptt) by mx2.mail.ru with esmtp id 1AiouH-0003rg-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 08:58:33 +0300 Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 11:01:58 +0500 From: "Pavel S. Shirshov" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <231266275000.20040120110158@mail.ru> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20040115183343.GA89808@shellma.zin.lublin.pl> References: <89836534562.20040115113937@mail.ru> <20040115183343.GA89808@shellma.zin.lublin.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam: Not detected Subject: Re[2]: ping: sendto: No buffer space available X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Pavel S. Shirshov" List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 05:58:37 -0000 Hi Pawel >> Problem - error message "No buffer space available". >> But, >> # netstat -m >> 145/18656/32768 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): >> 144 mbufs allocated to data >> 1 mbufs allocated to packet headers >> 142/628/8192 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) >> 5920 Kbytes allocated to network (24% of mb_map in use) >> 25 requests for memory denied >> 1 requests for memory delayed >> 0 calls to protocol drain routines >> >> Peak was 18656, max 32768. Why i'm got message "No buffer space >> available"? PM> Are You using dummynet? No. I'm using mpd for pptp. ng_pptpgre.c return ENOBUFS - and i'm got message "No buffer space available". Can you tell me about increasing buffer size in ng_pptpgre.c? P.S.:Sorry for bad English -- With best regards Pavel mailto:pavelbsd@mail.ru From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 22:29:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 737AB16A4CE for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 22:29:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from sbk-gw.sibnet.ru (sbk-gw.sibnet.ru [217.70.96.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7715A43D2F for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 22:29:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stranger@sberbank.sibnet.ru) Received: from sbk-gw.sibnet.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sbk-gw.sibnet.ru (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i0K6SwaY032466; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 12:28:58 +0600 (NOVT) (envelope-from stranger@sberbank.sibnet.ru) Received: from localhost (stranger@localhost)i0K6SsZS032460; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 12:28:55 +0600 (NOVT) (envelope-from stranger@sberbank.sibnet.ru) X-Authentication-Warning: sbk-gw.sibnet.ru: stranger owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 12:28:54 +0600 (NOVT) From: "Maxim M. Kazachek" X-X-Sender: stranger@sbk-gw.sibnet.ru To: Pete French In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040120122613.W32377@sbk-gw.sibnet.ru> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.4 required=7.5 tests=AWL,BAYES_01 autolearn=ham version=2.60 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on sbk-gw.sibnet.ru cc: skquinn@xevious.kicks-ass.net cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fix make release for 4-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 06:29:10 -0000 On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Pete French wrote: >> It's pretty obvious that within a couple more years they will be >> completely replaced by CD-R media or similar things. So, having to use > >You are assuming that you can boot from the CD-ROM, which isnt true >on any of the machines I own for starters. Floppies are still very >useful as a bootstapping tool - even Windows XP does it this way >after all. It may take 6 floppies, but it enables you to get the OS >onto a machine with just a boot floppy. > >-pcf. But you need "other" media to install OS from... :-) The time of floppy is going away. It's too expensive now. It's not so much durable. Sincerely, Maxim M. Kazachek mailto:stranger@sberbank.sibnet.ru mailto:stranger@fpm.ami.nstu.ru From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 20 00:40:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3262F16A4CE for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 00:40:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from phantom.cris.net (phantom.cris.net [212.110.130.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2DC143D2F for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 00:40:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org.ua) Received: from phantom.cris.net (ru@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phantom.cris.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0K8evjm056817; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 10:40:58 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by phantom.cris.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i0K8erUo056806; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 10:40:53 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 10:40:52 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Colin Percival Message-ID: <20040120084052.GB56714@FreeBSD.org.ua> References: <20040118141444.GG51708@sirius.firepipe.net> <20040118235148M.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <20040119092819.GA41159@FreeBSD.org.ua> <6.0.1.1.1.20040119094517.04743ea8@imap.sfu.ca> <20040119102834.GD41159@FreeBSD.org.ua> <6.0.1.1.1.20040120013116.0481d2c8@imap.sfu.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IiVenqGWf+H9Y6IX" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.1.20040120013116.0481d2c8@imap.sfu.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fix make release for 4-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 08:40:26 -0000 --IiVenqGWf+H9Y6IX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 01:43:42AM +0000, Colin Percival wrote: > At 10:28 19/01/2004, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > >On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 09:47:45AM +0000, Colin Percival wrote: > >> I've already mentioned this to re@, but if there's a real need > >> for space-saving, using NetBSD's makefs (ports/sysutils/makefs) > >> > >Cool! At a glance it looks like what we need to fully support > >cross-arch releases, as it supports different byte-ordering. >=20 > That's what NetBSD uses it for. :) >=20 > >It could also be used to get us closer to "fixing" release/ to not > >require "root" privileges -- it could be a very useful feature for > >developers with non-root access on fast machine. ;) >=20 > Not really -- `make release` needs to chroot, and non-root users > can't do that. >=20 I know, that's why I wrote "get us closer". ;-) Still, the idea is to implement the "developer" mode "make release" that wouldn't require root privileges, and file system creation is the biggest show stopper. > >> saves about 23k on the mfsroot floppy. > >> > >I wonder if this 23k difference is on 5-CURRENT or 4-STABLE, or both? > >If it is on 5-CURRENT only, does the following patch for FreeBSD's > >newfs(8) make any difference: > >[snip] > >If you don't bite me, I will try it myself. ;) >=20 > You'd better try it yourself -- I don't have convenient access to > a machine for release-building right now. >=20 > >Also, it would be nice to backport it to FreeBSD. >=20 > Isn't the port good enough? Many people seem to have an urge to > add stuff into base, but all that does is create more work. >=20 I somehow don't like the idea to use ports stuff to build src/ bits, so if we decide to switch to using it, it gets probably contributed to src/ anyway. > > And I suspect > >it doesn't work with UFS2, does it? (We don't need it for releases > >presently, but anyway.) >=20 > It does: makefs -o version=3D2 foo.img /path/to/files/ >=20 Cool! Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov FreeBSD committer ru@FreeBSD.org --IiVenqGWf+H9Y6IX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFADOmTUkv4P6juNwoRAlNlAJ0eRMY11GlaGWwYhI0GtwhulTelgQCfTBk4 X/YdJwLPRo4KS3P1oLQy5n0= =3HPZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IiVenqGWf+H9Y6IX-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 20 01:13:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C01016A4CE for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 01:13:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from tx3.oucs.ox.ac.uk (tx3.oucs.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.167]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6C0E43D39 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 01:13:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from colin.percival@wadham.ox.ac.uk) Received: from scan3.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.166] helo=localhost) by tx3.oucs.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Airwq-0008Kp-Or for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 09:13:24 +0000 Received: from rx3.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.165]) by localhost (scan3.oucs.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.166]) (amavisd-new, port 25) with ESMTP id 31712-09 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 09:13:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gateway.wadham.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.161.253]) by rx3.oucs.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Airwq-0008Kg-BR for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 09:13:24 +0000 Received: (qmail 15528 invoked by uid 0); 20 Jan 2004 09:13:24 -0000 Received: from colin.percival@wadham.ox.ac.uk by gateway by uid 71 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (sweep: 2.14/3.71. spamassassin: 2.53. Clear:. Processed in 1.457185 secs); 20 Jan 2004 09:13:24 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: colin.percival@wadham.ox.ac.uk via gateway X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.16 (Clear:. Processed in 1.457185 secs) Received: from dhcp1131.wadham.ox.ac.uk (HELO piii600.wadham.ox.ac.uk) (163.1.161.131) by gateway.wadham.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 20 Jan 2004 09:13:22 -0000 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.1.20040120090951.048628e0@imap.sfu.ca> X-Sender: cperciva@imap.sfu.ca (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 09:11:58 +0000 To: Ruslan Ermilov From: Colin Percival In-Reply-To: <20040120084052.GB56714@FreeBSD.org.ua> References: <20040118141444.GG51708@sirius.firepipe.net> <20040118235148M.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <20040119092819.GA41159@FreeBSD.org.ua> <6.0.1.1.1.20040119094517.04743ea8@imap.sfu.ca> <20040119102834.GD41159@FreeBSD.org.ua> <6.0.1.1.1.20040120013116.0481d2c8@imap.sfu.ca> <20040120084052.GB56714@FreeBSD.org.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fix make release for 4-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 09:13:45 -0000 At 08:40 20/01/2004, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: >On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 01:43:42AM +0000, Colin Percival wrote: > > Isn't the port good enough? Many people seem to have an urge to > > add stuff into base, but all that does is create more work. > >I somehow don't like the idea to use ports stuff to build src/ >bits, so if we decide to switch to using it, it gets probably >contributed to src/ anyway. Release building has been using ports stuff for a long time, so I'm not sure this argument makes sense. Colin Percival From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 20 03:06:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 863C116A4CE for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 03:06:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from phantom.cris.net (phantom.cris.net [212.110.130.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C65F43D31 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 03:06:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org.ua) Received: from phantom.cris.net (ru@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phantom.cris.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0KB6ejm058301; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 13:06:40 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by phantom.cris.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i0KB6c4U058296; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 13:06:38 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 13:06:37 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Colin Percival Message-ID: <20040120110636.GF56714@FreeBSD.org.ua> References: <20040118141444.GG51708@sirius.firepipe.net> <20040118235148M.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <20040119092819.GA41159@FreeBSD.org.ua> <6.0.1.1.1.20040119094517.04743ea8@imap.sfu.ca> <20040119102834.GD41159@FreeBSD.org.ua> <6.0.1.1.1.20040120013116.0481d2c8@imap.sfu.ca> <20040120084052.GB56714@FreeBSD.org.ua> <6.0.1.1.1.20040120090951.048628e0@imap.sfu.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SnV5plBeK2Ge1I9g" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.1.20040120090951.048628e0@imap.sfu.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fix make release for 4-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 11:06:12 -0000 --SnV5plBeK2Ge1I9g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 09:11:58AM +0000, Colin Percival wrote: > At 08:40 20/01/2004, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > >On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 01:43:42AM +0000, Colin Percival wrote: > >> Isn't the port good enough? Many people seem to have an urge to > >> add stuff into base, but all that does is create more work. > > > >I somehow don't like the idea to use ports stuff to build src/ > >bits, so if we decide to switch to using it, it gets probably > >contributed to src/ anyway. >=20 > Release building has been using ports stuff for a long time, > so I'm not sure this argument makes sense. >=20 Not for the (critical) src/ part. Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov FreeBSD committer ru@FreeBSD.org --SnV5plBeK2Ge1I9g Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFADQu8Ukv4P6juNwoRAronAJ449WOWrF/l8673sD8gkSeEGbo67ACeLSVZ e43H6MmoWCOAXQjYbLS2czc= =J9gw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SnV5plBeK2Ge1I9g-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 20 05:26:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B70B116A4CE for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 05:26:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from neuron.tuke.sk (neuron-ai.fei.tuke.sk [147.232.24.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED21443D53 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 05:25:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from babjak@neuron.tuke.sk) Received: from babjak by neuron.tuke.sk with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Aivss-0006KE-00 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 14:25:34 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 14:25:34 +0100 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040120132533.GA24163@neuron.tuke.sk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i From: Jozef Babjak Subject: Where are defaults for kernel variables? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: babjak@neuron.tuke.sk List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 13:26:03 -0000 Hi! Where can I find default values for kernel variables which is tunable in kernel config file? Some values are in LINT file, for example options PMAP_SHPGPERPROC=201 or options KVA_PAGES=260 but are these default values? Jozef. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 20 12:12:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5604C16A4CF for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 12:12:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail4.speakeasy.net (mail4.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D16C043D45 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 12:12:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 32236 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2004 20:12:06 -0000 Received: from dsl027-160-063.atl1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) encrypted SMTP for ; 20 Jan 2004 20:12:06 -0000 Received: from 10.50.41.236 (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0KKC2M0014389; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 15:12:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) From: John Baldwin To: Makoto Matsushita , list@rachinsky.de Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 15:02:18 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <20040118235148M.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <20040119095453.GA43280@pc5.i.0x5.de> <20040119195826X.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20040119195826X.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200401201502.18549.jhb@FreeBSD.org> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) cc: matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org cc: re@freebsd.org cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: will@csociety.org Subject: Re: Fix make release for 4-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:12:25 -0000 On Monday 19 January 2004 05:58 am, Makoto Matsushita wrote: > list> What about splitting the floppies? Splitfs support is already on > list> the 4.9-RELEASE disks. > > That would be a viable option, but the great downside of using splitfs > is that all of splitted chunks are required for all users. > > In the current configuration, drivers.flp is an option; if you don't > need to use modules in drivers.flp, you only need two floppies. If > the kernel and/or mfsroot image are splitted into, say, three > floppies, we have to have three floppies. > > Yes, floppies are so cheap to buy, but sometimes not handy you know. > I believe that some of my friends said to me that "hey, I'm so tired > to write THREE floppy images, it's so slow!" > > It would be technically easy to introduce splitfs for kernel/mfsroot > (it is already there), but it also introduce an important design change. > We should have enough time to consider that we decide the 3rd floppy > image treats a mandatory one. I have splitfs done in a p4 tree. Currently for i386 on current it takes up 3 floppies. One more floppy image is not all that bad, and it removes all the kernel module complication. This is using a GENERIC kernel, so it greatly simplifies release building and requires no more tweaking of BOOTMFS to make stuff "just fit". I'm currently doing some final testing before committing it to HEAD as I've occasionally had problems with the split images being loaded off of floppy. I added a md5 command to the loader today and it verified that the mfsroot and kernel were read ok, however. I have this bad feeling that there is some kind of memory corruption bug in the loader and that the problem goes away if you use a loader that has forth in it. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 20 13:43:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4649916A4CE for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 13:43:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.mho.com (smtp.mho.net [64.58.4.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CF69043D58 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 13:43:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Received: (qmail 62780 invoked by uid 1002); 20 Jan 2004 21:43:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO freebsd.org) (64.58.1.252) by smtp.mho.net with SMTP; 20 Jan 2004 21:43:18 -0000 Message-ID: <400DA085.7080007@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 14:41:25 -0700 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031103 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Baldwin References: <20040118235148M.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <20040119095453.GA43280@pc5.i.0x5.de> <20040119195826X.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <200401201502.18549.jhb@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <200401201502.18549.jhb@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Makoto Matsushita cc: stable@FreeBSD.org cc: ru@FreeBSD.org cc: re@FreeBSD.org cc: will@csociety.org Subject: Re: Fix make release for 4-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 21:43:24 -0000 John Baldwin wrote: > On Monday 19 January 2004 05:58 am, Makoto Matsushita wrote: > >>list> What about splitting the floppies? Splitfs support is already on >>list> the 4.9-RELEASE disks. >> >>That would be a viable option, but the great downside of using splitfs >>is that all of splitted chunks are required for all users. >> >>In the current configuration, drivers.flp is an option; if you don't >>need to use modules in drivers.flp, you only need two floppies. If >>the kernel and/or mfsroot image are splitted into, say, three >>floppies, we have to have three floppies. >> >>Yes, floppies are so cheap to buy, but sometimes not handy you know. >>I believe that some of my friends said to me that "hey, I'm so tired >>to write THREE floppy images, it's so slow!" >> >>It would be technically easy to introduce splitfs for kernel/mfsroot >>(it is already there), but it also introduce an important design change. >>We should have enough time to consider that we decide the 3rd floppy >>image treats a mandatory one. > > > I have splitfs done in a p4 tree. Currently for i386 on current it takes up 3 > floppies. One more floppy image is not all that bad, and it removes all the > kernel module complication. This is using a GENERIC kernel, so it greatly > simplifies release building and requires no more tweaking of BOOTMFS to make > stuff "just fit". I'm currently doing some final testing before committing > it to HEAD as I've occasionally had problems with the split images being > loaded off of floppy. I added a md5 command to the loader today and it > verified that the mfsroot and kernel were read ok, however. I have this bad > feeling that there is some kind of memory corruption bug in the loader and > that the problem goes away if you use a loader that has forth in it. > This is excellent work. Thanks a lot. Scott From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 20 20:44:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CADE916A4CE; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:44:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from castle.jp.FreeBSD.org (castle.jp.FreeBSD.org [210.226.20.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F5443D39; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:44:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [::1])i0L4iTC38360; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:44:29 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) In-Reply-To: <200401201502.18549.jhb@FreeBSD.org> References: <20040119095453.GA43280@pc5.i.0x5.de> <20040119195826X.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <200401201502.18549.jhb@FreeBSD.org> X-User-Agent: Mew/1.94.2 Emacs/21.3 X-FaceAnim: (-O_O-)(O_O- )(_O- )(O- )(- -)( -O)( -O_)( -O_O)(-O_O-) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Dispatcher: imput version 20030322(IM144) Lines: 16 From: Makoto Matsushita To: jhb@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:44:27 +0900 Message-Id: <20040121134427I.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: re@freebsd.org cc: will@csociety.org Subject: Re: Fix make release for 4-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 04:44:31 -0000 First, thank you for your great work! and just one comment: jhb> This is using a GENERIC kernel, so it greatly simplifies release jhb> building and requires no more tweaking of BOOTMFS to make stuff jhb> "just fit". It would be a good decision IMHO. Sometimes casual users are confused that why device xxx is not detected during installation but detected after install. It would be better using the _same_ kernel for both pre-installation time and post-installation (GENERIC) kernel. -- - Makoto `MAR' Matsushita From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 20 21:25:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 705B416A4CE for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 21:25:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.vinita.lt (mail.vinita.lt [217.147.34.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DED643D54 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 21:25:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rolnas@takas.lt) Received: from ctv-217-147-36-211.vinita.lt ([217.147.36.211] helo=rolnas.linux) by mail.vinita.lt with esmtp (powered by Init) id 1AjB3Y-0004lC-00; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 07:37:36 +0200 Received: from rolnas by rolnas.linux with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AjAs5-0000Ip-00; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 07:25:45 +0200 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 07:25:45 +0200 From: Rolandas Naujikas To: "Pavel S. Shirshov" Message-ID: <20040121052545.GA1103@rolnas> References: <231266275000.20040120110158@mail.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <231266275000.20040120110158@mail.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Organization: VU MIF Sender: Rolandas Naujikas cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ping: sendto: No buffer space available X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 05:25:49 -0000 On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 11:01:58AM +0500, Pavel S. Shirshov wrote: > Hi Pawel > > >> Problem - error message "No buffer space available". > >> But, > >> # netstat -m > >> 145/18656/32768 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): > >> 144 mbufs allocated to data > >> 1 mbufs allocated to packet headers > >> 142/628/8192 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) > >> 5920 Kbytes allocated to network (24% of mb_map in use) > >> 25 requests for memory denied > >> 1 requests for memory delayed > >> 0 calls to protocol drain routines > >> > >> Peak was 18656, max 32768. Why i'm got message "No buffer space > >> available"? > > PM> Are You using dummynet? > > No. I'm using mpd for pptp. > ng_pptpgre.c return ENOBUFS - and i'm got message "No buffer space > available". I had sometime this problem. This is probably from PPTP disconnect. When PPP is not connected, but the queue is gooing and the queue length is limited. The resolution is probably reconnect. > Can you tell me about increasing buffer size in ng_pptpgre.c? > > > P.S.:Sorry for bad English > > > > -- > With best regards > Pavel mailto:pavelbsd@mail.ru > > > ------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 20 22:20:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 307B716A4CE for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 22:20:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from bache.ece.cmu.edu (BACHE.ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.129.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A4143D1F for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 22:20:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from allbery@ece.cmu.edu) Received: by bache.ece.cmu.edu (Postfix, from userid 953) id BB4EA97; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 01:20:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from [128.2.138.54] (VPN54.ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.138.54]) by bache.ece.cmu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAE2E7B; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 01:19:52 -0500 (EST) From: "Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH" To: Rolandas Naujikas In-Reply-To: <20040121052545.GA1103@rolnas> References: <231266275000.20040120110158@mail.ru> <20040121052545.GA1103@rolnas> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1074665990.1909.3.camel@pyanfar.ece.cmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 01:19:51 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-38.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_XIMIAN autolearn=ham version=2.50 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: "Pavel S. Shirshov" Subject: Re: ping: sendto: No buffer space available X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 06:20:24 -0000 On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 00:25, Rolandas Naujikas wrote: > > No. I'm using mpd for pptp. > > ng_pptpgre.c return ENOBUFS - and i'm got message "No buffer space > > available". > > I had sometime this problem. This is probably from PPTP disconnect. When > PPP is not connected, but the queue is gooing and the queue length is > limited. The resolution is probably reconnect. Nope; I have a monitor tell me when PPTP connects/disconnects, and I get the ENOBUFS thing while it's connected. Also... while I could see ENOBUFS if the PPTP link got backed up (temporary restriction of bandwidth, etc.) --- I'd prefer some kind of throttling instead of an error return that makes programs die, though, if possible --- it doesn't only affect programs making connections through the PPTP link; *every* network connection is affected. This seems doubly excessive. -- brandon s. allbery [linux,solaris,freebsd,perl] allbery@kf8nh.com system administrator [WAY too many hats] allbery@ece.cmu.edu electrical and computer engineering, carnegie mellon univ. KF8NH From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 20 23:42:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4064416A4CE; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 23:42:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.des.no (flood.des.no [217.116.83.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09DD143D54; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 23:42:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: by smtp.des.no (Pony Express, from userid 666) id D5293530C; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:41:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from dwp.des.no (des.no [80.203.228.37]) by smtp.des.no (Pony Express) with ESMTP id 65682530A; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:41:51 +0100 (CET) Received: by dwp.des.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id D1ACC33C6A; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:41:50 +0100 (CET) To: John Baldwin References: <20040118235148M.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <20040119095453.GA43280@pc5.i.0x5.de> <20040119195826X.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <200401201502.18549.jhb@FreeBSD.org> From: des@des.no (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?q?Sm=F8rgrav?=) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:41:50 +0100 In-Reply-To: <200401201502.18549.jhb@FreeBSD.org> (John Baldwin's message of "Tue, 20 Jan 2004 15:02:18 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.090024 (Oort Gnus v0.24) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.61 (1.212.2.1-2003-12-09-exp) on flood.des.no X-Spam-Level: ss X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.6 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DYNABLOCK, RCVD_IN_SORBS autolearn=no version=2.61 cc: Makoto Matsushita cc: re@freebsd.org cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: will@csociety.org Subject: Re: Fix make release for 4-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 07:42:06 -0000 John Baldwin writes: > [...] I have this = bad > feeling that there is some kind of memory corruption bug in the loader and > that the problem goes away if you use a loader that has forth in it. why use a loader w/o forth? a complete loader with all 4th and conf files takes about 250k, which will definitely fit on the boot floppy, and with splitfs we don't need to worry about there being enough room for the kernel. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 00:19:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D6BF16A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 00:19:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from geminix.org (gen129.n001.c02.escapebox.net [213.73.91.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC76143D46 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 00:19:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gemini@geminix.org) Message-ID: <400E3628.8050601@geminix.org> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:19:52 +0100 From: Uwe Doering Organization: Private UNIX Site User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040119 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20040120132533.GA24163@neuron.tuke.sk> In-Reply-To: <20040120132533.GA24163@neuron.tuke.sk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: from gemini by geminix.org with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1AjDac-000Hlx-00; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:19:54 +0100 Subject: Re: Where are defaults for kernel variables? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:19:57 -0000 Jozef Babjak wrote: > Hi! > > Where can I find default values for kernel variables which is tunable in > kernel config file? Some values are in LINT file, for example > > options PMAP_SHPGPERPROC=201 > > or > > options KVA_PAGES=260 > > but are these default values? No, these are usually not the defaults, just examples. I haven't found a complete list so far. I could be wrong, but I think part of the problem is that the majority of kernel developers doesn't feel obligated to document the variables they introduced somewhere outside the kernel. So if you can't find any third-party documentation about a particular variable you probably have to consult the kernel sources, not only about the default values but also about the semantics of these variables. That's what I did in the past. Uwe -- Uwe Doering | EscapeBox - Managed On-Demand UNIX Servers gemini@geminix.org | http://www.escapebox.net From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 02:02:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15D9C16A4CE; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 02:02:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (joel.tallye.com [216.99.199.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAAB743D41; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 02:02:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sttng359@hosea.tallye.com) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (hosea.tallye.com [127.0.0.1]) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0LA2iZT022906; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 02:02:44 -0800 Received: (from sttng359@localhost) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10/Submit) id i0LA2hj6022904; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 02:02:43 -0800 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 02:02:43 -0800 From: "Loren M. Lang" To: Kevin Berrien Message-ID: <20040121100243.GD21510@alzatex.com> References: <1523970523.1062.6.camel@linuxppc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FFoLq8A0u+X9iRU8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1523970523.1062.6.camel@linuxppc> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Install bug - 4.9 stable - post install circular reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 10:02:51 -0000 --FFoLq8A0u+X9iRU8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 09:10:14AM -0400, Kevin Berrien wrote: > I can confirm an issue posted Dec 3rd, freebsd-stable maillist, titled > "4.9 install buglet". >=20 > I experience this bug running the install (various configurations) 100% > of the time. After install, after system reboot, the boot loader comes > up with F1: FreeBSD, and reboots continually forever. To test, I made 3 > installs without issue using 4.8. So first, I'd like to confirm the bug > report, and ask the following. >=20 > In his "buglet" post, Ian noted the following work around. >=20 > > Work around. Force write in label screen (or rewrite MBR > > and label post reboot) >=20 I just experienced this same bug after installing freebsd 4.9 on monday this week, though I don't remember seeing any message at all, it just rebooted automatically without me doing anything at all. The soulution I found was to boot using the live cd, go into fix-it mode and run disklabel -B /dev/ad0 to reinstall the mbr, and since then freebsd had been running perfectly and is now serving mail to 40+ people. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 >=20 > !DSPAM:400220fa260193583517191! >=20 --=20 I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C =20 --FFoLq8A0u+X9iRU8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFADk5D+vN6RuSjKAwRAncfAJ9ICv3sNUkTBjlzVwOpwQqf7QaAkQCgp+8F 3Jmsszo02Mq08cEnVZ1RPlU= =2eAm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FFoLq8A0u+X9iRU8-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 03:38:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03EAC16A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 03:38:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.des.no (flood.des.no [217.116.83.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCC2D43D1F for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 03:37:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: by smtp.des.no (Pony Express, from userid 666) id A333E530C; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:37:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from dwp.des.no (des.no [80.203.228.37]) by smtp.des.no (Pony Express) with ESMTP id B120F5308; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:37:48 +0100 (CET) Received: by dwp.des.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id 48FC433C6A; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:37:48 +0100 (CET) To: Uwe Doering References: <20040120132533.GA24163@neuron.tuke.sk> <400E3628.8050601@geminix.org> From: des@des.no (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?q?Sm=F8rgrav?=) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:37:48 +0100 In-Reply-To: <400E3628.8050601@geminix.org> (Uwe Doering's message of "Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:19:52 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.090024 (Oort Gnus v0.24) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.61 (1.212.2.1-2003-12-09-exp) on flood.des.no X-Spam-Level: ss X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.6 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DYNABLOCK, RCVD_IN_SORBS autolearn=no version=2.61 cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where are defaults for kernel variables? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:38:00 -0000 Uwe Doering writes: > Jozef Babjak wrote: > > options PMAP_SHPGPERPROC=3D201 > > or options KVA_PAGES=3D260 > > but are these default values? > No, these are usually not the defaults, just examples. I haven't > found a complete list so far. I could be wrong, but I think part of > the problem is that the majority of kernel developers doesn't feel > obligated to document the variables they introduced somewhere outside > the kernel. The defaults are generally computed at boot time as a function of physical memory size. KVA_PAGES is special, though, because it controls the size of the kernel virtual address space, and you can't change it without also changing the linker script and some loader settings. This is documented in the FAQ. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 03:59:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4F7316A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 03:59:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgw.servicefactory.se (mailgw.servicefactory.se [192.71.33.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C48343D4C for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 03:59:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonas@servicefactory.se) Received: from ark.servicefactory.se (ark.servicefactory.se [192.71.33.5]) i0LBxXw22710 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:59:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from servicefactory.se (ark.servicefactory.se [192.71.33.5]) by ark.servicefactory.se (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id i0LBw9mP071745; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:58:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jonas@servicefactory.se) Message-ID: <400E69A4.2090803@servicefactory.se> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:59:32 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jonas_B=FClow?= Organization: Service Factory User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031218 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, sv MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: problem with saving core on FreeBSD-4.9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:59:38 -0000 Hi, When my machine boots after a panic (which happens to frequently lately) it failes to save the kernel core file. This makes it very hard to debug the problem. The machine has 512MB of RAM as you can see. The console output is: .... Checking for core dump: dumplo = 537526272 (1049856 * 512) savecore: reboot after panic: page fault Jan 21 12:30:06 localhost savecore: reboot after panic: page fault savecore: system went down at Wed Jan 21 12:23:45 2004 savecore: writing compressed core to /usr/crash/vmcore.16.gz savecore: /usr/crash/vmcore.16.gz: Illegal seek Jan 21 12:30:06 localhost savecore: /usr/crash/vmcore.16.gz: Illegal seek savecore: WARNING: vmcore may be incomplete .... I have the following flags in rc.conf: dumpdev="/dev/ad0s3b" dumpdir="/usr/crash" savecore_flags="-v -z" Other info: # ls -l /usr/crash/vmcore.16.gz -rw------- 1 root wheel 10 Jan 21 12:30 /usr/crash/vmcore.16.gz #swapinfo Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Type /dev/ad0s3b 1048448 0 1048448 0% Interleaved #df -h /usr/crash Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s3e 28G 20G 5.7G 78% /usr Any suggestions on whats wrong here? Any obvious misstake I'm doing? /jonas From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 04:25:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 222F416A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 04:25:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from geminix.org (gen129.n001.c02.escapebox.net [213.73.91.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91DE43D1D for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 04:25:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gemini@geminix.org) Message-ID: <400E6FC6.6010801@geminix.org> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:25:42 +0100 From: Uwe Doering Organization: Private UNIX Site User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040119 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20040120132533.GA24163@neuron.tuke.sk> <400E3628.8050601@geminix.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from gemini by geminix.org with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1AjHQW-000MnU-00; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:25:44 +0100 Subject: Re: Where are defaults for kernel variables? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:25:47 -0000 Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > Uwe Doering writes: >>Jozef Babjak wrote: >>>options PMAP_SHPGPERPROC=201 >>>or options KVA_PAGES=260 >>>but are these default values? >> >>No, these are usually not the defaults, just examples. I haven't >>found a complete list so far. I could be wrong, but I think part of >>the problem is that the majority of kernel developers doesn't feel >>obligated to document the variables they introduced somewhere outside >>the kernel. > > The defaults are generally computed at boot time as a function of > physical memory size. While there are a number of variables that get derived from the physical memory size (if not overridden), claiming that kernel variable defaults are _generally_ computed at boot time is certainly an exaggeration. There are still tons of variables and C preprocessor defines that have nothing to do with physical memory size, have fixed defaults and have to be set explicitly where necessary. And many of those are unfortunately sparsely documented, if at all. Now, before someone gets me wrong on this, I don't complain about the lack of documentation, since the FreeBSD project is a voluntary effort and I don't have the time to solve this problem, either. I just describe the current state of affairs, as I see it. Uwe -- Uwe Doering | EscapeBox - Managed On-Demand UNIX Servers gemini@geminix.org | http://www.escapebox.net From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 04:46:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95B3A16A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 04:46:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.des.no (flood.des.no [217.116.83.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D2DF43D49 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 04:46:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: by smtp.des.no (Pony Express, from userid 666) id 6ECA5530C; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:46:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from dwp.des.no (des.no [80.203.228.37]) by smtp.des.no (Pony Express) with ESMTP id 7F762530A; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:46:00 +0100 (CET) Received: by dwp.des.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id 5964233C6A; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:46:00 +0100 (CET) To: Uwe Doering References: <20040120132533.GA24163@neuron.tuke.sk> <400E3628.8050601@geminix.org> <400E6FC6.6010801@geminix.org> From: des@des.no (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?q?Sm=F8rgrav?=) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:46:00 +0100 In-Reply-To: <400E6FC6.6010801@geminix.org> (Uwe Doering's message of "Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:25:42 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.090024 (Oort Gnus v0.24) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.61 (1.212.2.1-2003-12-09-exp) on flood.des.no X-Spam-Level: ss X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.6 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DYNABLOCK, RCVD_IN_SORBS autolearn=no version=2.61 cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where are defaults for kernel variables? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:46:17 -0000 Uwe Doering writes: > While there are a number of variables that get derived from the > physical memory size (if not overridden), claiming that kernel > variable defaults are _generally_ computed at boot time is certainly > an exaggeration. The important ones are. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 06:17:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34EFF16A4CF for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 06:17:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from chuggalug.clues.com (chuggalug.demon.co.uk [62.49.17.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F1F43D46 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 06:17:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from geoffb@chuggalug.clues.com) Received: from chuggalug.clues.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chuggalug.clues.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0LECs3N038672 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:12:54 GMT (envelope-from geoffb@chuggalug.clues.com) Received: (from geoffb@localhost) by chuggalug.clues.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i0LECrLq038667 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:12:53 GMT (envelope-from geoffb) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:12:52 +0000 From: Geoff Buckingham To: stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040121141252.GA33168@chuggalug.clues.com> References: <20040120092347.GB149@chuggalug.clues.com> <20040120104554.GC149@chuggalug.clues.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040120104554.GC149@chuggalug.clues.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: cdboot, mfs_root and mount_cd9660 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:17:45 -0000 I have now tried this with a 4.9 /boot and still see the same problem. I also added the atacontrol binary to my mfs_root and tried detachng the ata channel with the cd re-attaching and re-initialising it. I still get the same invalid argument error. As I can't fix this with atacontrol can I assume the problem is with the initialisation of the kernel by the loader rather than the loader leaving the cd in a unknown state? How is the PXEboot which allows mount_cd9660 to work differ from a no emulation cdboot? Moved to stable as I am now 100% 4.x (was using /boot from 5.2 before) On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 10:45:54AM +0000, Geoff Buckingham wrote: > On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 09:23:47AM +0000, Geoff Buckingham wrote: > > > > For reasons I wont bore people with, I am trying to produce a bootable CD > > using /boot from 5.2 (minus kernel and modules) boot a 4.9 kernel and > > mfs_root. > > > > This works fine however once booted trying to mount the iso9660 fs from the > > CD produces the error: > > > > cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Invalid argument > > > > booting the same kernel and mfs_root bits from a 4.9 pxeboot via tftp I am able > > to succesfully mount the same CD on the same hardware (DL 360 G1) > > > > Anyone know what I am doing wrong? > > Should add this is a no emulation boot. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 10:33:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE9DC16A4D3 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 10:33:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail3.speakeasy.net (mail3.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 307D543D3F for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 10:33:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 18909 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2004 18:33:31 -0000 Received: from dsl027-160-063.atl1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) encrypted SMTP for ; 21 Jan 2004 18:33:31 -0000 Received: from 10.50.40.205 (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0LIXOM2019911; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:33:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) From: John Baldwin To: des@des.no (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?q?Sm=F8rgrav?=) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:32:39 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <20040118235148M.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <200401201502.18549.jhb@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200401211332.39442.jhb@FreeBSD.org> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) cc: Makoto Matsushita cc: re@freebsd.org cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: will@csociety.org Subject: Re: Fix make release for 4-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 18:33:35 -0000 On Wednesday 21 January 2004 02:41 am, Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote: > John Baldwin writes: > > [...] I have this > > bad feeling that there is some kind of memory corruption bug in the > > loader and that the problem goes away if you use a loader that has forth > > in it. > > why use a loader w/o forth? a complete loader with all 4th and conf > files takes about 250k, which will definitely fit on the boot floppy, > and with splitfs we don't need to worry about there being enough room > for the kernel. That is on the todo list to possibly change. However, the bug appears to b= e=20 in the ufs(4) driver in libstand, not in the forth stuff (or lack thereof).= =20 Certain test loaders that I build choke after reading in the first 48k (Get= a=20 bogus EOF it seems) of the mfsroot.gz.aa file. Once I track this down I wi= ll=20 commit what I have now. Then I will work on going back to a stock loader a= nd=20 probably sticking an acpi.ko.gz on the boot floppy as well. =2D-=20 John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" =3D http://www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 11:16:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7707116A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:16:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from kraken.magnetinternet.com (kraken.magnetinternet.com [206.190.137.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67AA743D39 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:16:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt.king@magnetinternet.com) Received: from magnetinternet.com (dsl093-041-098.pdx1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.93.41.98])ESMTP id C134691F9C for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:16:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <400ECFF0.9000608@magnetinternet.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:16:00 -0800 From: Matt King User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031205 Thunderbird/0.4 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Weird Lock-Up X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 19:16:02 -0000 So this morning I woke up and went to check mail, and couldn't get to my server. Pinged it, was alive; ssh'd in, still got a login prompt. Logged in, and got: -bash: /etc/profile: Device not configured And the connection was closed. I rebooted the machine and it came back to normal, but this concerns me. Could be it a disk problem? Memory problem? Anyone else have this issue before? Thanks! Matt King magnet | internet http://www.magnetinternet.com From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 11:40:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8267916A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:40:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [66.170.168.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34FC043D31 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:40:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steveb@mercury.jorsm.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C4CE1E1ABA; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:40:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (VaMailArmor-2.0.1.16) id 01011-515DB23F; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:40:26 -0600 Received: by mercury.jorsm.com (Postfix, from userid 4147) id 500D41E1AAE; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:40:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mercury.jorsm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E6551E1AAC; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:40:26 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:40:26 -0600 (CST) From: Stephen Bader To: Matt King In-Reply-To: <400ECFF0.9000608@magnetinternet.com> Message-ID: <20040121133904.J26267-100000@mercury.jorsm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-AntiVirus: checked by Vexira MailArmor (version: 2.0.1.16; VAE: 6.23.0.2; VDF: 6.23.0.38; host: jorsm.com) cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Weird Lock-Up X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 19:40:28 -0000 I had a similiar issue with a machine when the drive that housed / stopped responding. I was able to ping, and get an SSH connection, but it would immediately close my connection. After rebooting, everything was fine. I found in the logs that da0 was timing out. I replaced the drive. -Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stephen Bader JORSM Internet, Regional Internet Services Systems Administrator 7 Area Codes in Chicagoland and NW Indiana steveb@jorsm.com 100Mbps+ Connectivity, 56K-DS3, V.90, ISDN (219) 322-2180 Quality Service, Affordable Prices http://www.jorsm.com Serving Gov, Biz, Indivds Since 1995 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Matt King wrote: > So this morning I woke up and went to check mail, and couldn't get to my > server. Pinged it, was alive; ssh'd in, still got a login prompt. > Logged in, and got: > > -bash: /etc/profile: Device not configured > > And the connection was closed. > > I rebooted the machine and it came back to normal, but this concerns me. > Could be it a disk problem? Memory problem? Anyone else have this > issue before? > > Thanks! > > Matt King > magnet | internet > http://www.magnetinternet.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 14:11:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1E3D16A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:11:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from dword.org (p15091850.pureserver.info [217.160.107.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A090E43D5C for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:11:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daff@dword.org) Received: (qmail 6447 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2004 22:11:16 -0000 Received: from chello080110151164.104.11.univie.teleweb.at (HELO Tirith.arda) (80.110.151.164) by p15091850.pureserver.info with SMTP; 21 Jan 2004 22:11:16 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.arda [127.0.0.1]) by Tirith.arda (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A2110D for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:11:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from Tirith.arda ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Tirith.arda [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21108-07 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:10:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from Pelargir.arda (pelargir.arda [192.168.0.2]) by Tirith.arda (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F23FFA for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:10:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost.arda [127.0.0.1]) by Pelargir.arda (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E15EAE4C for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:10:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from Pelargir.arda ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Pelargir.arda [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18965-04 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:10:45 +0100 (CET) Received: by Pelargir.arda (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 94AC6AD9C; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:10:44 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:10:44 +0100 From: Andreas Ntaflos To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040121221043.GF6014@Pelargir.arda> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE Subject: test X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:11:34 -0000 huhu -- Andreas "daff" Ntaflos | "A cynic is a man who knows the price of daff AT dword DOT org | everything, and the value of nothing." Vienna, AUSTRIA | Oscar Wilde From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 14:27:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E6F16A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:27:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from dword.org (p15091850.pureserver.info [217.160.107.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1A07F43D2D for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:27:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daff@dword.org) Received: (qmail 8322 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2004 22:27:06 -0000 Received: from chello080110151164.104.11.univie.teleweb.at (HELO Tirith.arda) (80.110.151.164) by p15091850.pureserver.info with SMTP; 21 Jan 2004 22:27:06 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.arda [127.0.0.1]) by Tirith.arda (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E78F7 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:00:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from Tirith.arda ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Tirith.arda [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21109-05 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:00:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from Pelargir.arda (pelargir.arda [192.168.0.2]) by Tirith.arda (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BAA2A5 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:00:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost.arda [127.0.0.1]) by Pelargir.arda (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D345AE4C for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:00:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from Pelargir.arda ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Pelargir.arda [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18962-03 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:00:22 +0100 (CET) Received: by Pelargir.arda (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 01956AD9C; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:00:20 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:00:20 +0100 From: Andreas Ntaflos To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040121220020.GD6014@Pelargir.arda> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE Subject: test X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:27:11 -0000 yo -- Andreas "daff" Ntaflos | "A cynic is a man who knows the price of daff AT dword DOT org | everything, and the value of nothing." Vienna, AUSTRIA | Oscar Wilde From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 14:27:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F9E16A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:27:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from dword.org (p15091850.pureserver.info [217.160.107.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 24DC043D1F for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:27:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daff@dword.org) Received: (qmail 8323 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2004 22:27:06 -0000 Received: from chello080110151164.104.11.univie.teleweb.at (HELO Tirith.arda) (80.110.151.164) by p15091850.pureserver.info with SMTP; 21 Jan 2004 22:27:06 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.arda [127.0.0.1]) by Tirith.arda (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B31FE for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:07:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from Tirith.arda ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Tirith.arda [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21110-06 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:06:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from Pelargir.arda (pelargir.arda [192.168.0.2]) by Tirith.arda (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7F25FA for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:06:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost.arda [127.0.0.1]) by Pelargir.arda (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FEB3AE6F for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:06:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from Pelargir.arda ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Pelargir.arda [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18962-04 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:06:54 +0100 (CET) Received: by Pelargir.arda (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C9172AE6C; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:06:52 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:06:52 +0100 From: Andreas Ntaflos To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040121220652.GE6014@Pelargir.arda> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE Subject: test X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:27:11 -0000 tesrt -- Andreas "daff" Ntaflos | "A cynic is a man who knows the price of daff AT dword DOT org | everything, and the value of nothing." Vienna, AUSTRIA | Oscar Wilde From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 14:27:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D43C16A4CF for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:27:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from dword.org (p15091850.pureserver.info [217.160.107.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1EE2143D31 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:27:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daff@dword.org) Received: (qmail 8324 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2004 22:27:06 -0000 Received: from chello080110151164.104.11.univie.teleweb.at (HELO Tirith.arda) (80.110.151.164) by p15091850.pureserver.info with SMTP; 21 Jan 2004 22:27:06 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.arda [127.0.0.1]) by Tirith.arda (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73B39206 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:55:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from Tirith.arda ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Tirith.arda [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21108-06 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:54:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from Pelargir.arda (pelargir.arda [192.168.0.2]) by Tirith.arda (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CC2911 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:54:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost.arda [127.0.0.1]) by Pelargir.arda (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACDDAE4C for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:54:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from Pelargir.arda ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Pelargir.arda [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18969-02 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:54:42 +0100 (CET) Received: by Pelargir.arda (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6285BAD9C; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:54:40 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:54:40 +0100 From: Andreas Ntaflos To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040121215440.GC6014@Pelargir.arda> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE Subject: test X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:27:11 -0000 123 hello test -- Andreas "daff" Ntaflos | "A cynic is a man who knows the price of daff AT dword DOT org | everything, and the value of nothing." Vienna, AUSTRIA | Oscar Wilde From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 14:29:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EA0E16A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:29:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from radix.cryptio.net (radix.cryptio.net [199.181.107.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11D7D43D99 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:28:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from emechler@radix.cryptio.net) Received: from radix.cryptio.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by radix.cryptio.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0LMSiqj031758 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:28:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from emechler@radix.cryptio.net) Received: (from emechler@localhost) by radix.cryptio.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i0LMSib6031757 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:28:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from emechler) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:28:44 -0800 From: Erick Mechler To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040121222844.GZ22199@techometer.net> References: <20040121220652.GE6014@Pelargir.arda> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040121220652.GE6014@Pelargir.arda> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: test X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:29:38 -0000 Please stop this. At Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 11:06:52PM +0100, Andreas Ntaflos said this: :: tesrt :: -- :: Andreas "daff" Ntaflos | "A cynic is a man who knows the price of :: daff AT dword DOT org | everything, and the value of nothing." :: Vienna, AUSTRIA | Oscar Wilde :: _______________________________________________ :: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list :: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable :: To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 14:33:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DCF016A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:33:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [130.64.1.215]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0541E43D77 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:32:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 1AjQs5-0003Ev-00 ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 17:30:49 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 17:30:49 -0500 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040121223049.GB11706@pir.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Andreas Ntaflos References: <20040121215440.GC6014@Pelargir.arda> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040121215440.GC6014@Pelargir.arda> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. cc: Andreas Ntaflos Subject: Re: test X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:33:36 -0000 Andreas Ntaflos probably said: > 123 hello > test Would you mind not wasting the time and bandwidth of hundreds of people ? This isn't a test list, don't use it as one. P. -- pir From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 14:34:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD1016A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:34:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from 23x.net (ATuileries-117-1-15-210.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.51.179.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F1743D80 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:32:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jared@23x.net) Received: from [192.168.123.103] (mantaray.home [192.168.123.103]) by 23x.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i0LMV7X4020034 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:31:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jared@23x.net) X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v609) In-Reply-To: <20040121215440.GC6014@Pelargir.arda> References: <20040121215440.GC6014@Pelargir.arda> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <7AD474B5-4C61-11D8-82DC-000A958F180A@23x.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Image-Url: http://www.23x.net/mail/jared@23x.net From: "Jared ''Danger'' Earle" Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:30:56 +0100 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.609) Subject: Re: test X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:34:11 -0000 On 21 Jan 2004, at 22:54, Andreas Ntaflos wrote: > 123 hello > test > -- That *almost* looks like Bagle virus... -- Jared Earle, Nightfall Games, jared@23x.net - http://www.23x.net "Come on, Romy. You've got to say something nice about my SPORK" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 16:29:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C919716A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:29:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc5.i.0x5.de (reverse-213-146-113-119.dialin.kamp-dsl.de [213.146.113.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E5643D2D for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:29:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nicolas@dauerreden.de) Received: from pc5.i.0x5.de (nicolas@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pc5.i.0x5.de (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i0M0TIqY020754; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:29:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nicolas@pc5.i.0x5.de) Received: (from nicolas@localhost) by pc5.i.0x5.de (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id i0M0TH5d020753; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:29:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nicolas) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:29:17 +0100 From: Nicolas Rachinsky To: Jonas =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=FClow?= Message-ID: <20040122002917.GA20490@pc5.i.0x5.de> Mail-Followup-To: Jonas =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=FClow?= , freebsd-stable References: <400E69A4.2090803@servicefactory.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <400E69A4.2090803@servicefactory.se> X-Powered-by: FreeBSD X-Homepage: http://www.rachinsky.de X-PGP-Keyid: C11ABC0E X-PGP-Fingerprint: 19DB 8392 8FE0 814A 7362 EEBD A53B 526A C11A BC0E X-PGP-Key: http://www.rachinsky.de/nicolas/nicolas_rachinsky.asc X-SECURITY: Never trust a running system User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i cc: freebsd-stable Subject: Re: problem with saving core on FreeBSD-4.9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 00:29:36 -0000 * Jonas Bülow [2004-01-21 12:59 +0100]: > The console output is: > > .... > Checking for core dump: dumplo = 537526272 (1049856 * 512) > savecore: reboot after panic: page fault > Jan 21 12:30:06 localhost savecore: reboot after panic: page fault > savecore: system went down at Wed Jan 21 12:23:45 2004 > savecore: writing compressed core to /usr/crash/vmcore.16.gz > savecore: /usr/crash/vmcore.16.gz: Illegal seek > Jan 21 12:30:06 localhost savecore: /usr/crash/vmcore.16.gz: Illegal seek > savecore: WARNING: vmcore may be incomplete > .... > > I have the following flags in rc.conf: > > dumpdev="/dev/ad0s3b" > dumpdir="/usr/crash" > savecore_flags="-v -z" Try without -z. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 19:34:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7456D16A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 19:34:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from web40902.mail.yahoo.com (web40902.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.78.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4DEE443D45 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 19:34:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from myrna22_2002@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20040122033428.15392.qmail@web40902.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.157.195.194] by web40902.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 19:34:28 PST Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 19:34:28 -0800 (PST) From: Myrna Santos To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: psyBNC X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 03:34:30 -0000 Hi, I'm very desperate right now coz one of my friend from IRC he let me used/borrowed his friend psy and one week after I used - I went to the Internet & surfed something and I was shock coz there's a message pop -up on my computer saying that I'm doing something illegal stuff in the computer monitored by FBI and they have all the evidence to prove which I dont really know coz the ONLY thing I do in the computer is to chat MIRC and I'm scared if that message was a real warning.. Do you think I'm being hack? Please let me know and Please advise me what's the best thing to do Thank you very much..I really appreciate your advise Myrna - New York --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 21:43:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06EF916A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 21:43:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.mho.com (smtp.mho.net [64.58.4.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AC9A143D45 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 21:43:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Received: (qmail 84291 invoked by uid 1002); 22 Jan 2004 05:43:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO freebsd.org) (64.58.1.252) by smtp.mho.net with SMTP; 22 Jan 2004 05:43:10 -0000 Message-ID: <400F627A.60408@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:41:14 -0700 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031103 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Reminder: Call for Bi-Monthly status reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 05:43:14 -0000 All, This is a friendly reminder that submissions for the Bi-Monthly status reports are due on January 24. For those that missed the first announcement: It's time for bi-monthly status reports. This one is a little late due to the excitement of releasing 5.2, so please submit reports for Oct-Dec 2003. As always, the template is at http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-sample.xml, and submissions go to monthly@freebsd.org. While this report is primarily for projects that are in-progress, we would also encourage submissions for projects that are still in their idea and planning phases. It is open to src, ports, and documentation projects that are related to FreeBSD Submissions are due to monthly@freebsd.org by Jan 24. Thanks! Scott Long From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 23:40:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C461016A4CE; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:40:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from transport.cksoft.de (transport.cksoft.de [62.111.66.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84A0D43D3F; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:40:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from transport.cksoft.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by transport.cksoft.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 789271FF90C; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:40:08 +0100 (CET) Received: by transport.cksoft.de (Postfix, from userid 66) id DE9CC1FF931; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:40:06 +0100 (CET) Received: by mail.int.zabbadoz.net (Postfix, from userid 1060) id 9B968154EA; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 07:37:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.int.zabbadoz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91326153AA; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 07:37:08 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 07:37:08 +0000 (UTC) From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" X-X-Sender: bz@e0-0.zab2.int.zabbadoz.net To: stable@freebsd.org, ipfw@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS cksoft-s20020300-20031204bz on transport.cksoft.de Subject: Need committer for missing MfC X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 07:40:13 -0000 Hi, can someone please MfC this: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/netinet/ip_fw2.c.diff?r1=1.50&r2=1.51&f=h TIA -- Bjoern A. Zeeb bzeeb at Zabbadoz dot NeT 56 69 73 69 74 http://www.zabbadoz.net/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 22 00:50:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEBA016A4DE; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 00:50:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay.macomnet.ru (relay.macomnet.ru [195.128.64.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD25343D45; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 00:50:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from maxim@macomnet.ru) Received: from news1.macomnet.ru (5zjeeau2@news1.macomnet.ru [195.128.64.14]) by relay.macomnet.ru (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0M8omo24142854; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:50:48 +0300 (MSK) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:50:48 +0300 (MSK) From: Maxim Konovalov To: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040122115036.U44024@news1.macomnet.ru> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: ipfw@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need committer for missing MfC X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:50:52 -0000 On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, 07:37-0000, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > Hi, > > can someone please MfC this: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/netinet/ip_fw2.c.diff?r1=1.50&r2=1.51&f=h Done. -- Maxim Konovalov, maxim@macomnet.ru, maxim@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 22 03:12:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38C9816A4CE for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 03:12:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgw.servicefactory.se (mailgw.servicefactory.se [192.71.33.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B9B43D1D for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 03:12:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonas@servicefactory.se) Received: from ark.servicefactory.se (ark.servicefactory.se [192.71.33.5]) i0MBCDw05971 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:12:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from servicefactory.se (ark.servicefactory.se [192.71.33.5]) by ark.servicefactory.se (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id i0MBAlmP037866; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:10:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jonas@servicefactory.se) Message-ID: <400FB00D.7060104@servicefactory.se> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:12:13 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jonas_B=FClow?= Organization: Service Factory User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031218 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, sv MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-stable References: <400E69A4.2090803@servicefactory.se> <20040122002917.GA20490@pc5.i.0x5.de> In-Reply-To: <20040122002917.GA20490@pc5.i.0x5.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: problem with saving core on FreeBSD-4.9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:12:19 -0000 Hi, I found http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3Dbin/36136 . It's=20 quite old. Will the fix make it into 4-STABLE? /jonas Nicolas Rachinsky wrote: > * Jonas B=FClow [2004-01-21 12:59 +0100]: >=20 >>The console output is: >> >>.... >>Checking for core dump: dumplo =3D 537526272 (1049856 * 512) >>savecore: reboot after panic: page fault >>Jan 21 12:30:06 localhost savecore: reboot after panic: page fault >>savecore: system went down at Wed Jan 21 12:23:45 2004 >>savecore: writing compressed core to /usr/crash/vmcore.16.gz >>savecore: /usr/crash/vmcore.16.gz: Illegal seek >>Jan 21 12:30:06 localhost savecore: /usr/crash/vmcore.16.gz: Illegal se= ek >>savecore: WARNING: vmcore may be incomplete >>.... >> >>I have the following flags in rc.conf: >> >>dumpdev=3D"/dev/ad0s3b" >>dumpdir=3D"/usr/crash" >>savecore_flags=3D"-v -z" >=20 >=20 > Try without -z. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 22 10:00:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 894C316A4CE; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:00:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com (fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.86.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 390C143D1F; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:00:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mikej@rogers.com) Received: from win2000 ([63.139.3.63]) by fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.comESMTP <20040122175800.UCGD116070.fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@win2000>; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:58:00 -0500 From: "Mike Jakubik" To: , Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:00:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 thread-index: AcPhEZiSYn1kmdmkRAuZ6IIkVZ0a/g== X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH LOGIN at fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com from [63.139.3.63] using ID at Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:58:00 -0500 Message-Id: <20040122175800.UCGD116070.fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@win2000> Subject: cvsup2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 18:00:09 -0000 Has no one noticed that cvsup2.freebsd.org has been down for a few weeks now? From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 22 10:10:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2572016A4CE; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:10:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from sirius.firepipe.net (sirius.firepipe.net [69.13.116.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59EEA43D1D; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from will@csociety.org) Received: by sirius.firepipe.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1A51817DFE; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:10:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:10:00 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: Mike Jakubik Message-ID: <20040122181000.GK51708@sirius.firepipe.net> Mail-Followup-To: Mike Jakubik , current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org References: <20040122175800.UCGD116070.fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@win2000> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040122175800.UCGD116070.fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@win2000> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvsup2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 18:10:02 -0000 On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 01:00:18PM -0500, Mike Jakubik wrote: > Has no one noticed that cvsup2.freebsd.org has been down for a few weeks > now? So use another one? Like maybe cvsup12.freebsd.org? :) Incidentally that server was down for a few weeks once for an upgrade too, last year. Regards, -- wca From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 22 10:17:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B4516A4CF; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:17:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU [128.205.32.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BED6A43D5A; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:17:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kensmith@cse.Buffalo.EDU) Received: from electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (kensmith@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i0MIHiTr029178; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:17:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from kensmith@localhost) by electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) id i0MIHivA029177; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:17:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:17:44 -0500 From: Ken Smith To: Mike Jakubik Message-ID: <20040122181744.GA29063@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> References: <20040122175800.UCGD116070.fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@win2000> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040122175800.UCGD116070.fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@win2000> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvsup2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 18:17:48 -0000 On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 01:00:18PM -0500, Mike Jakubik wrote: > Has no one noticed that cvsup2.freebsd.org has been down for a few weeks > now? The first I heard of it was this morning when the admin let us know it suffered a severe hardware failure and getting a replacement was taking much longer than he hoped. It shouldn't be taking too much longer... -- Ken Smith - From there to here, from here to | kensmith@cse.buffalo.edu there, funny things are everywhere. | - Theodore Geisel | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 22 10:45:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A3816A4CE; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:45:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from fep04-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com (fep04-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.86.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D401B43D31; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:45:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mikej@rogers.com) Received: from win2000 ([63.139.3.63]) by fep04-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.comESMTP <20040122184256.VDFP337997.fep04-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@win2000>; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:42:56 -0500 From: "Mike Jakubik" To: "'Ken Smith'" Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:45:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 thread-index: AcPhE9DJ5XL4qQl/TD+XY+dW7R7vcAAA9/5Q In-Reply-To: <20040122181744.GA29063@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH LOGIN at fep04-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com from [63.139.3.63] using ID at Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:42:56 -0500 Message-Id: <20040122184256.VDFP337997.fep04-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@win2000> cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: RE: cvsup2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 18:45:43 -0000 Thanks for the info. Cvsup2 was my fastest link :) > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Ken Smith > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 1:18 PM > To: Mike Jakubik > Cc: stable@freebsd.org; current@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: cvsup2 > > On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 01:00:18PM -0500, Mike Jakubik wrote: > > > Has no one noticed that cvsup2.freebsd.org has been down for a few > > weeks now? > > The first I heard of it was this morning when the admin let > us know it suffered a severe hardware failure and getting a > replacement was taking much longer than he hoped. It > shouldn't be taking too much longer... > > -- > Ken Smith > - From there to here, from here to | > kensmith@cse.buffalo.edu > there, funny things are everywhere. | > - Theodore Geisel | > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 22 10:50:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AC4416A4CE for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:50:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from ion.gank.org (ion.gank.org [69.55.238.164]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 319F743D31 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:50:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from craig@meoqu.gank.org) Received: from localhost (ion.gank.org [69.55.238.164]) by ion.gank.org (mail) with ESMTP id 2DE482B2E3; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:50:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from ion.gank.org ([69.55.238.164]) by localhost (ion.gank.org [69.55.238.164]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 16396-01-2; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:50:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from owen1492.uf.corelab.com (pix.corelab.com [12.45.169.2]) by ion.gank.org (mail) with ESMTP id CD1CF2B2C6; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:50:40 -0600 (CST) From: Craig Boston To: Will Andrews Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:50:34 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <20040122175800.UCGD116070.fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@win2000> <20040122181000.GK51708@sirius.firepipe.net> In-Reply-To: <20040122181000.GK51708@sirius.firepipe.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200401221250.34134.craig@meoqu.gank.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gank.org cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvsup2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 18:50:43 -0000 On Thursday 22 January 2004 12:10 pm, Will Andrews wrote: > So use another one? Like maybe cvsup12.freebsd.org? :) Sssshhh!!! Don't tell anybody about cvsup12... I like it being really really _FAST_ ;-) (j/k) Craig From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 22 11:49:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F84816A4CE for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:49:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (gilmore.nas.nasa.gov [129.99.33.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C724043D2F for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:49:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tweten@nas.nasa.gov) Received: from gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (IDENT:m9ttBr5iw1gg8nDDYvHHobO6F+nu+jN+@localhost.nas.nasa.gov [127.0.0.1]) i0MJnmiH002722 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:49:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tweten@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.6.3 04/04/2003 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Dave Tweten Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:49:48 -0800 Message-ID: <2721.1074800988@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> Sender: tweten@nas.nasa.gov Subject: OpenSSH Vulnerable Prior to 3.7.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: David.E.Tweten@nasa.gov List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 19:49:49 -0000 I just received a computer security bulletin from another (reliable) source stating that there are indications of an exploit in the wild for versions of OpenSSH prior to 3.7.1. It says the exploit can produce denial of service or administrative control of the target system. Sshd on my FreeBSD-STABLE system from last Saturday says it is version 3.5p1. I understand that FreeBSD patches old versions of OpenSSH instead of substituting new ones, but my question is whether sshd version "OpenSSH_3.5p1 FreeBSD-20030924" has these vulnerabilities fixed. Is it as secure as OpenSSH 3.7.1? -- M/S 258-5 |1024-bit PGP fingerprint:|tweten@nas.nasa.gov NASA Ames Research Center | 41 B0 89 0A 8F 94 6C 59| (650) 604-4416 Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000| 7C 80 10 20 25 C7 2F E6|FAX: (650) 604-4377 Not an official NASA position. You can't even be certain who sent this! From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 22 12:11:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A40916A4CE for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:11:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.des.no (flood.des.no [217.116.83.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE0B343D1F for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:11:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: by smtp.des.no (Pony Express, from userid 666) id D25C3530C; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:11:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from dwp.des.no (des.no [80.203.228.37]) by smtp.des.no (Pony Express) with ESMTP id 66D415308; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:10:52 +0100 (CET) Received: by dwp.des.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id E89BD33C6A; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:10:51 +0100 (CET) To: David.E.Tweten@nasa.gov References: <2721.1074800988@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> From: des@des.no (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?q?Sm=F8rgrav?=) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:10:51 +0100 In-Reply-To: <2721.1074800988@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> (Dave Tweten's message of "Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:49:48 -0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.090024 (Oort Gnus v0.24) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.61 (1.212.2.1-2003-12-09-exp) on flood.des.no X-Spam-Level: ss X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.6 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DYNABLOCK, RCVD_IN_SORBS autolearn=no version=2.61 cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenSSH Vulnerable Prior to 3.7.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 20:11:11 -0000 Dave Tweten writes: > I understand that FreeBSD patches old versions of OpenSSH instead of > substituting new ones, That depends, but upgrading is generally a lot more work (and introduces other risks). It is however highly unlikely that we will ever upgrade OpenSSH in 4.x to 3.7.1, as it does not support Kerberos IV, which we still want to support in 4.x. > but my question is whether sshd version > "OpenSSH_3.5p1 FreeBSD-20030924" has these vulnerabilities fixed. We do not know of any vulnerabilities in FreeBSD-STABLE's OpenSSH. If you have any information we don't, we'd be very much obliged if you could forward it to . > Is it > as secure as OpenSSH 3.7.1? As far as we know, yes. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 22 12:30:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84DF316A4CE for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:30:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from xevious.kicks-ass.net (dsl093-025-119.hou1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.93.25.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 419B243D31 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:30:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from skquinn@xevious.kicks-ass.net) Received: from xevious.kicks-ass.net (skquinn@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xevious.kicks-ass.net (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id i0MKbU8J068149 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:37:30 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from skquinn@xevious.kicks-ass.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by xevious.kicks-ass.net (8.12.10/8.12.6/Submit) id i0MKbSd4068148 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:37:29 -0600 (CST) From: "Shawn K. Quinn" To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:37:28 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <20040122175800.UCGD116070.fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@win2000> <20040122181000.GK51708@sirius.firepipe.net> <200401221250.34134.craig@meoqu.gank.org> In-Reply-To: <200401221250.34134.craig@meoqu.gank.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200401221437.28629.skquinn@xevious.kicks-ass.net> Subject: Re: cvsup2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 20:30:29 -0000 On Thursday 2004 January 22 12:50, Craig Boston wrote: > On Thursday 22 January 2004 12:10 pm, Will Andrews wrote: > > So use another one? Like maybe cvsup12.freebsd.org? :) > > Sssshhh!!! Don't tell anybody about cvsup12... > I like it being really really _FAST_ ;-) I personally use cvsup11 now. I think I switched several times after cvsup2 started reaching capacity some months ago. -- Shawn K. Quinn From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 22 13:34:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96F0116A4CE; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:34:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-67-119-53-122.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [67.119.53.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B84E43D45; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:34:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A0AB366DA6; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:34:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:34:31 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Mike Jakubik Message-ID: <20040122213431.GA73331@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20040122181744.GA29063@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> <20040122184256.VDFP337997.fep04-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@win2000> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="liOOAslEiF7prFVr" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040122184256.VDFP337997.fep04-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@win2000> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: 'Ken Smith' cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvsup2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:34:33 -0000 --liOOAslEiF7prFVr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 01:45:53PM -0500, Mike Jakubik wrote: > Thanks for the info. Cvsup2 was my fastest link :) You can use the fastest_cvsup port to find a replacement in the meantime. Kris --liOOAslEiF7prFVr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAEEHnWry0BWjoQKURApqhAJ9JLnTuDc7woALRMM2VuX5OzwqeagCgmb9U wHlqmEK3aQR646sJ6ETpLFs= =EEo/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --liOOAslEiF7prFVr-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 22 15:13:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B65EC16A4CE for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:13:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.hispeed.ch (mxout.hispeed.ch [62.2.95.247]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BFA643D1D for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:13:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hampi@rootshell.be) Received: from gicco.homeip.net (80-218-74-45.dclient.hispeed.ch [80.218.74.45])i0MNDDMB015422 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:13:13 +0100 Received: from goofy.here (localhost.here [127.0.0.1]) by gicco.homeip.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0MNDHeM075391; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:13:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from hampi@rootshell.be) Received: (from idefix@localhost) by goofy.here (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i0MNDGnv075390; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:13:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from hampi@rootshell.be) X-Authentication-Warning: goofy.here: idefix set sender to hampi@rootshell.be using -f Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:13:16 +0100 From: Hanspeter Roth To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040122231316.GA75352@gicco.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: ipfilter doesn't compile in 5.2-Release X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 23:13:19 -0000 --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hello, I'm trying to configure IPFILTER in 5.2-Release. But the compilation failes: cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=pentiumpro -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../../.. -I../../../contrib/dev/acpica -I../../../contrib/ipfilter -I../../../contrib/dev/ath -I../../../contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -I../../../contrib/ngatm -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -mno-align-long-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -ffreestanding -Werror ../../../contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_fil.c ../../../contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_fil.c: In function `fr_check_wrapper': ../../../contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_fil.c:319: error: `PFIL_OUT' undeclared (first use in this function) I've copied the oppropriate options from /sys/conf/NOTES. How is IPFILTER built? -Hanspeter --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=F5 # # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386 # # For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on # Kernel Configuration Files: # # http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html # # The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the # latest information. # # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the # device lines is also present in the ../../conf/NOTES and NOTES files. # If you are in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first # in NOTES. # # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.394.2.2 2003/12/07 23:52:53 scottl Exp $ machine i386 #pu I486_CPU #pu I586_CPU cpu I686_CPU ident F5 #To statically compile in device wiring instead of /boot/device.hints #hints "GENERIC.hints" #Default places to look for devices. #makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols options SCHED_4BSD #4BSD scheduler options INET #InterNETworking #ptions INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support options UFS_ACL #Support for access control lists options UFS_DIRHASH #Improve performance on big directories options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device options NFSCLIENT #Network Filesystem Client options NFSSERVER #Network Filesystem Server options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as /, requires NFSCLIENT options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem (requires PSEUDOFS) options PSEUDOFS #Pseudo-filesystem framework options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 #Compatible with FreeBSD4 options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev options AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~128k to driver. options AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~215k to driver. # Debugging for use in -current #options DDB #Enable the kernel debugger #options INVARIANTS #Enable calls of extra sanity checking options INVARIANT_SUPPORT #Extra sanity checks of internal structures, required by INVARIANTS #options WITNESS #Enable checks to detect deadlocks and cycles #options WITNESS_SKIPSPIN #Don't run witness on spinlocks for speed # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed #ptions SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel device apic # I/O APIC device isa device eisa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives #evice ataraid # ATA RAID drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives #evice atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives #evice atapist # ATAPI tape drives options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering # SCSI Controllers #evice ahb # EISA AHA1742 family #evice ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices #evice ahd # AHA39320/29320 and onboard AIC79xx devices #evice amd # AMD 53C974 (Tekram DC-390(T)) #evice isp # Qlogic family #evice mpt # LSI-Logic MPT-Fusion #device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic #evice sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets + those of `ncr') #evice trm # Tekram DC395U/UW/F DC315U adapters #evice adv # Advansys SCSI adapters #evice adw # Advansys wide SCSI adapters #evice aha # Adaptec 154x SCSI adapters #evice aic # Adaptec 15[012]x SCSI adapters, AIC-6[23]60. #evice bt # Buslogic/Mylex MultiMaster SCSI adapters #evice ncv # NCR 53C500 #evice nsp # Workbit Ninja SCSI-3 #evice stg # TMC 18C30/18C50 # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required for SCSI) #evice ch # SCSI media changers #evice da # Direct Access (disks) #evice sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) device cd # CD device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) device ses # SCSI Environmental Services (and SAF-TE) # RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem #evice amr # AMI MegaRAID #evice asr # DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID #evice ciss # Compaq Smart RAID 5* #evice dpt # DPT Smartcache III, IV - See NOTES for options #evice iir # Intel Integrated RAID #evice ips # IBM (Adaptec) ServeRAID #evice mly # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID # RAID controllers #evice aac # Adaptec FSA RAID #evice aacp # SCSI passthrough for aac (requires CAM) #evice ida # Compaq Smart RAID #evice mlx # Mylex DAC960 family #evice pst # Promise Supertrak SX6000 #evice twe # 3ware ATA RAID # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc # AT keyboard controller device atkbd # AT keyboard device psm # PS/2 mouse device vga # VGA video card driver device splash # Splash screen and screen saver support # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc # Enable this for the pcvt (VT220 compatible) console driver #device vt #options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt console #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor device agp # support several AGP chipsets # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx # Power management support (see NOTES for more options) #device apm # Add suspend/resume support for the i8254. device pmtimer # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support # Pcmcia and cardbus bridge support device cbb # cardbus (yenta) bridge #device pcic # ExCA ISA and PCI bridges device pccard # PC Card (16-bit) bus device cardbus # CardBus (32-bit) bus # Serial (COM) ports device sio # 8250, 16[45]50 based serial ports # Parallel port device ppc device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer device plip # TCP/IP over parallel device ppi # Parallel port interface device #device vpo # Requires scbus and da # If you've got a "dumb" serial or parallel PCI card that is # supported by the puc(4) glue driver, uncomment the following # line to enable it (connects to the sio and/or ppc drivers): #device puc # PCI Ethernet NICs. #evice de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') #evice em # Intel PRO/1000 adapter Gigabit Ethernet Card #evice txp # 3Com 3cR990 (``Typhoon'') #evice vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'') # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs! device miibus # MII bus support #evice bfe # Broadcom BCM440x 10/100 ethernet #evice bge # Broadcom BCM570xx Gigabit Ethernet #evice dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes #evice fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) #evice pcn # AMD Am79C97x PCI 10/100 (precedence over 'lnc') device re # RealTek 8139C+/8169/8169S/8110S device rl # RealTek 8129/8139 #evice sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'') #evice sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016 #evice sk # SysKonnect SK-984x and SK-982x gigabit ethernet #evice ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX) #evice ti # Alteon Networks Tigon I/II gigabit ethernet #evice tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN #evice tx # SMC EtherPower II (83c170 ``EPIC'') #evice vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II #evice wb # Winbond W89C840F #evice xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') # ISA Ethernet NICs. pccard nics included. #evice cs # Crystal Semiconductor CS89x0 NIC # 'device ed' requires 'device miibus' #evice ed # NE[12]000, SMC Ultra, 3c503, DS8390 cards #evice ex # Intel EtherExpress Pro/10 and Pro/10+ #evice ep # Etherlink III based cards #evice fe # Fujitsu MB8696x based cards #evice ie # EtherExpress 8/16, 3C507, StarLAN 10 etc. #evice lnc # NE2100, NE32-VL Lance Ethernet cards #evice sn # SMC's 9000 series of ethernet chips #evice xe # Xircom pccard ethernet # ISA devices that use the old ISA shims #device le # Wireless NIC cards #evice wlan # 802.11 support #evice an # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. #evice awi # BayStack 660 and others #evice wi # WaveLAN/Intersil/Symbol 802.11 wireless NICs. #device wl # Older non 802.11 Wavelan wireless NIC. # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocate. device random # Entropy device device loop # Network loopback device ether # Ethernet support device sl # Kernel SLIP device ppp # Kernel PPP device tun # Packet tunnel. device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) device md # Memory "disks" device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling device faith # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) # The `bpf' device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! device bpf # Berkeley packet filter # USB support device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface #evice ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device usb # USB Bus (required) #device udbp # USB Double Bulk Pipe devices device ugen # Generic device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" device ukbd # Keyboard device ulpt # Printer device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da device ums # Mouse #evice urio # Diamond Rio 500 MP3 player device uscanner # Scanners # USB Ethernet, requires mii #evice aue # ADMtek USB ethernet #evice axe # ASIX Electronics USB ethernet #evice cue # CATC USB ethernet #evice kue # Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet # FireWire support device firewire # FireWire bus code device sbp # SCSI over FireWire (Requires scbus and da) device fwe # Ethernet over FireWire (non-standard!) device pcm options IPFILTER #ipfilter support options IPFILTER_LOG #ipfilter logging options IPFILTER_DEFAULT_BLOCK #block all packets by default --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 22 15:17:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AED016A4CF for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:17:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-67-119-53-122.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [67.119.53.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17FAB43D2F for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:17:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6046D66E32; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:17:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:17:15 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040122231715.GA75651@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20040122231316.GA75352@gicco.homeip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040122231316.GA75352@gicco.homeip.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: ipfilter doesn't compile in 5.2-Release X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 23:17:17 -0000 --4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 12:13:16AM +0100, Hanspeter Roth wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I'm trying to configure IPFILTER in 5.2-Release. But the compilation > failes: >=20 > cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=3Dpentiumpro -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-extern= s -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast= -qual -fformat-extensions -std=3Dc99 -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../../.. -I../..= /../contrib/dev/acpica -I../../../contrib/ipfilter -I../../../contrib/dev/a= th -I../../../contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -I../../../contrib/ngatm -D_KERNEL -i= nclude opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=3D15000 -fno-strict-aliasing= -mno-align-long-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=3D2 -ffreestanding -We= rror ../../../contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_fil.c > ../../../contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_fil.c: In function `fr_check_wrapper= ': > ../../../contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_fil.c:319: error: `PFIL_OUT' undecla= red (first use in this function) >=20 > I've copied the oppropriate options from /sys/conf/NOTES. >=20 > How is IPFILTER built? >=20 > -Hanspeter Read UPDATING whenever you update your sources. Kris --4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAEFn7Wry0BWjoQKURAtcjAJoDcBnq4icKS7oE0OaQR3SW/lZYDQCfYL9H 5/VBpWHCmyJ8ihjzlk6A2Gs= =u/DH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 22 15:20:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A407416A503 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:20:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7197A43D3F for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:20:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (IDENT:brdavis@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.12.10/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i0MNKSaT007807 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:20:28 -0800 Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.12.10/8.12.3/Submit) id i0MNKSQI007806 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:20:28 -0800 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:20:28 -0800 From: Brooks Davis To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040122232028.GA5845@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <20040122231316.GA75352@gicco.homeip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040122231316.GA75352@gicco.homeip.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) on odin.ac.hmc.edu Subject: Re: ipfilter doesn't compile in 5.2-Release X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 23:20:37 -0000 --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 12:13:16AM +0100, Hanspeter Roth wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I'm trying to configure IPFILTER in 5.2-Release. But the compilation > failes: >=20 > cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=3Dpentiumpro -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-extern= s -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast= -qual -fformat-extensions -std=3Dc99 -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../../.. -I../..= /../contrib/dev/acpica -I../../../contrib/ipfilter -I../../../contrib/dev/a= th -I../../../contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -I../../../contrib/ngatm -D_KERNEL -i= nclude opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=3D15000 -fno-strict-aliasing= -mno-align-long-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=3D2 -ffreestanding -We= rror ../../../contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_fil.c > ../../../contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_fil.c: In function `fr_check_wrapper= ': > ../../../contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_fil.c:319: error: `PFIL_OUT' undecla= red (first use in this function) >=20 > I've copied the oppropriate options from /sys/conf/NOTES. You missed the line four lines below options IPFILTER: options PFIL_HOOKS #required by IPFILTER -- Brooks --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAEFq7XY6L6fI4GtQRAjRZAJ44+8gwttGzcUE9qqQtipaCBhw6ogCeI7Ss tQL6PWxt4gTd7zoOdfuMvYs= =ZBEz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 22 15:56:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5416616A4CE; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:56:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from eden.barryp.org (host-150-32-220-24.midco.net [24.220.32.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C354A43D1D; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:56:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bp@barryp.org) Received: from geo.med.und.nodak.edu ([134.129.166.11] helo=barryp.org) by eden.barryp.org with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.20) id 1Ajog1-0001r1-UR; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:55:58 -0600 Message-ID: <401062E9.7020407@barryp.org> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:55:21 -0600 From: Barry Pederson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <20040122231316.GA75352@gicco.homeip.net> <20040122232028.GA5845@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> In-Reply-To: <20040122232028.GA5845@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.61 (1.212.2.1-2003-12-09-exp) on eden.barryp.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.5 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.61 Subject: Re: ipfilter doesn't compile in 5.2-Release X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 23:56:02 -0000 Brooks Davis wrote: > On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 12:13:16AM +0100, Hanspeter Roth wrote: > >>Hello, >> >>I'm trying to configure IPFILTER in 5.2-Release. But the compilation >>failes: >> >>cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=pentiumpro -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../../.. -I../../../contrib/dev/acpica -I../../../contrib/ipfilter -I../../../contrib/dev/ath -I../../../contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -I../../../contrib/ngatm -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -mno-align-long-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -ffreestanding -Werror ../../../contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_fil.c >>../../../contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_fil.c: In function `fr_check_wrapper': >>../../../contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_fil.c:319: error: `PFIL_OUT' undeclared (first use in this function) >> >>I've copied the oppropriate options from /sys/conf/NOTES. > > > You missed the line four lines below options IPFILTER: > > options PFIL_HOOKS #required by IPFILTER Can we put PFIL_HOOKS in the GENERIC kernel config, so a person doesn't have to recompile the kernel to use IPFilter - like it was back in later versions of 4.x? It seems kind of silly to have the default 5.x install come with a ipfilter kld module sitting there, a knob that can be used in rc.conf to enable it - but it can't be used without jumping through more hoops. Barry From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 22 17:50:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D7216A4CE; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:50:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED1F143D2D; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:50:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Received: from volatile.chemikals.org (cae88-51-165.sc.rr.com [24.88.51.165]) i0N1oIKY013746; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 20:50:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from volatile.chemikals.org (morganw@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i0N1oIDh010257; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 20:50:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Received: from localhost (morganw@localhost)i0N1oHWM010254; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 20:50:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) X-Authentication-Warning: volatile.chemikals.org: morganw owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 20:50:17 -0500 (EST) From: Wesley Morgan To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <20040122213431.GA73331@xor.obsecurity.org> Message-ID: <20040122204918.F8338@volatile.chemikals.org> References: <20040122181744.GA29063@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> <20040122184256.VDFP337997.fep04-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@win2000> <20040122213431.GA73331@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: Mike Jakubik cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: 'Ken Smith' cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvsup2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 01:50:31 -0000 On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 01:45:53PM -0500, Mike Jakubik wrote: > > Thanks for the info. Cvsup2 was my fastest link :) > > You can use the fastest_cvsup port to find a replacement in the > meantime. That's pretty cool! Some enterprising individual should do some segments on "useful ports you dont even know about". Ten thousand ports is a lot to look through! -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 22 19:20:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F3916A4CE; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 19:20:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU [128.205.32.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52AF843D55; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 19:20:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kensmith@cse.Buffalo.EDU) Received: from electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (kensmith@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i0N3KMTr013624; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:20:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from kensmith@localhost) by electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) id i0N3KMpI013623; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:20:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:20:22 -0500 From: Ken Smith To: Mike Jakubik , current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040123032022.GA13424@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> References: <20040122175800.UCGD116070.fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@win2000> <20040122181000.GK51708@sirius.firepipe.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040122181000.GK51708@sirius.firepipe.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: cvsup2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 03:20:31 -0000 On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 01:10:00PM -0500, Will Andrews wrote: > So use another one? Like maybe cvsup12.freebsd.org? :) > Incidentally that server was down for a few weeks once for an > upgrade too, last year. Just FYI, the machine in question should be back up Real Soon Now so we won't be doing this but... If sites know they're going to be down for a while we try to "cover for them" by switching the DNS entries, especially for the ones in the Top Level Domain. Lots of sites (e.g. mine :-) have their own internal cvs mirror setups, and their main site cvsup server doesn't go screaming at the admins when it hasn't been able to reach its upstream site for a while (and who checks /var/log/cvsup.log on a routine basis?). -- Ken Smith - From there to here, from here to | kensmith@cse.buffalo.edu there, funny things are everywhere. | - Theodore Geisel | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 22 19:58:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041D016A4CE for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 19:58:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F18A43D46 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 19:58:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from topaz-out (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by rutger.owt.com (8.11.6p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id i0N3vq220178; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 19:57:53 -0800 From: Kent Stewart To: Kris Kennaway , Mike Jakubik Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 19:57:52 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <20040122181744.GA29063@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> <20040122184256.VDFP337997.fep04-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@win2000> <20040122213431.GA73331@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20040122213431.GA73331@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200401221957.52727.kstewart@owt.com> cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvsup2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 03:58:04 -0000 On Thursday 22 January 2004 01:34 pm, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 01:45:53PM -0500, Mike Jakubik wrote: > > Thanks for the info. Cvsup2 was my fastest link :) > > You can use the fastest_cvsup port to find a replacement in the > meantime. But fastest in the fastest_cvsup sense doesn't accurately represent the shortest cvsup session. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 22 22:50:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71F2A16A4CE for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:50:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from access.inet.co.th (access.inet.co.th [203.151.127.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F43943D1F for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:50:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pirat@access.inet.co.th) Received: from firak.thai-aec.org (TruPPPv92-225-123.inet.co.th [203.151.225.123]) by access.inet.co.th (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id i0N6oCG2067179 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 13:50:13 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from pirat@access.inet.co.th) Received: from firak.thai-aec.org (localhost.thai-aec.org [127.0.0.1]) by firak.thai-aec.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0N6pcrf000504 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 13:51:38 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from pirat@access.inet.co.th) Received: (from pirat@localhost) by firak.thai-aec.org (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i0N6pZQQ000503 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 13:51:35 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from pirat@access.inet.co.th) X-Authentication-Warning: firak.thai-aec.org: pirat set sender to pirat@access.inet.co.th using -f Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 13:51:35 +0700 From: pirat To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20040123065135.GA355@thai-aec.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=tis-620 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD firak.thai-aec.org 4.9-STABLE FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE www-home-page: http://www.thai-aec.org www-FreeBSD-page: http://www.thai.net/makham Subject: SYSERR(root) Can not exec /bin/mail: No such file or directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 06:50:18 -0000 hi sirs, i hvae just noticed that if /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/mailer/local.m4 has a line that says ifdef(`LOCAL_MAILER_PATH',, `define(`LOCAL_MAILER_PATH', /bin/mail)') will result in error at boot time. i simply change that line to ifdef(`LOCAL_MAILER_PATH',, `define(`LOCAL_MAILER_PATH', /usr/bin/mail)') and error disappears after doing make install at /etc/mail. but i do not know of any side effects will happen. my system is [firak] /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/mailer # uname -a FreeBSD firak.thai-aec.org 4.9-STABLE FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE #3: Fri Jan 23 10:25:43 ICT 2004 root@firak.thai-aec.org:/var/obj/usr/src/sys/Firak i386 [firak] /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/mailer # -- with best regards, psr http://www.thai-aec.org http://www.thai.net/makham From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 00:04:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5670816A4CE for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:04:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from gw.catspoiler.org (217-ip-163.nccn.net [209.79.217.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26B7C43D1D for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:04:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from truckman@FreeBSD.org) Received: from FreeBSD.org (mousie.catspoiler.org [192.168.101.2]) by gw.catspoiler.org (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i0N84K7E066462; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:04:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from truckman@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <200401230804.i0N84K7E066462@gw.catspoiler.org> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:04:20 -0800 (PST) From: Don Lewis To: pirat@access.inet.co.th In-Reply-To: <20040123065135.GA355@thai-aec.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: SYSERR(root) Can not exec /bin/mail: No such file or directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 08:04:40 -0000 On 23 Jan, pirat wrote: > hi sirs, > > i hvae just noticed that if /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/mailer/local.m4 has > a line that says > > ifdef(`LOCAL_MAILER_PATH',, `define(`LOCAL_MAILER_PATH', /bin/mail)') > > will result in error at boot time. i simply change that line to > > ifdef(`LOCAL_MAILER_PATH',, `define(`LOCAL_MAILER_PATH', /usr/bin/mail)') > > and error disappears after doing make install at /etc/mail. but i do not > know of any side effects will happen. my system is > > [firak] /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/mailer # uname -a > FreeBSD firak.thai-aec.org 4.9-STABLE FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE #3: Fri Jan 23 10:25:43 > ICT 2004 root@firak.thai-aec.org:/var/obj/usr/src/sys/Firak i386 > [firak] /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/mailer # It looks like your sendmail .mc file (which is used to build your sendmail.cf) is missing the OSTYPE(freebsd4) statement which pulls in /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/ostype/freebsd4.m4, which defines LOCAL_MAILER_PATH as /usr/libexec/mail.local. You'll probably want to use /etc/mail/freebsd.mc as the starting point for your sendmail configuration. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 00:23:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3EA16A4CE; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:23:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from access.inet.co.th (access.inet.co.th [203.151.127.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F57D43D83; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:22:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pirat@access.inet.co.th) Received: from firak.thai-aec.org (TruPPPv92-225-22.inet.co.th [203.151.225.22]) by access.inet.co.th (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id i0N8M9G2077729; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:22:10 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from pirat@access.inet.co.th) Received: from firak.thai-aec.org (localhost.thai-aec.org [127.0.0.1]) by firak.thai-aec.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0N8Nbrf000765; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:23:37 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from pirat@access.inet.co.th) Received: (from pirat@localhost) by firak.thai-aec.org (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i0N8NaN8000764; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:23:36 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from pirat@access.inet.co.th) X-Authentication-Warning: firak.thai-aec.org: pirat set sender to pirat@access.inet.co.th using -f Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:23:36 +0700 From: pirat To: Don Lewis Message-ID: <20040123082336.GB355@thai-aec.org> References: <20040123065135.GA355@thai-aec.org> <200401230804.i0N84K7E066462@gw.catspoiler.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=tis-620 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200401230804.i0N84K7E066462@gw.catspoiler.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD firak.thai-aec.org 4.9-STABLE FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE www-home-page: http://www.thai-aec.org www-FreeBSD-page: http://www.thai.net/makham cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: SYSERR(root) Can not exec /bin/mail: No such file or directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 08:23:24 -0000 On Friday, 23 January 2004 at 0:04:20 -0800, Don Lewis wrote: > Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:04:20 -0800 (PST) > From: Don Lewis > Subject: Re: SYSERR(root) Can not exec /bin/mail: No such file or directory > To: pirat@access.inet.co.th > cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org > > On 23 Jan, pirat wrote: > > hi sirs, > > > > i hvae just noticed that if /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/mailer/local.m4 has > > a line that says > > > > ifdef(`LOCAL_MAILER_PATH',, `define(`LOCAL_MAILER_PATH', /bin/mail)') > > > > will result in error at boot time. i simply change that line to > > > > ifdef(`LOCAL_MAILER_PATH',, `define(`LOCAL_MAILER_PATH', /usr/bin/mail)') > > > > and error disappears after doing make install at /etc/mail. but i do not > > know of any side effects will happen. my system is > > > > [firak] /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/mailer # uname -a > > FreeBSD firak.thai-aec.org 4.9-STABLE FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE #3: Fri Jan 23 10:25:43 > > ICT 2004 root@firak.thai-aec.org:/var/obj/usr/src/sys/Firak i386 > > [firak] /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/mailer # > > It looks like your sendmail .mc file (which is used to build your > sendmail.cf) is missing the > OSTYPE(freebsd4) > statement which pulls in > /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/ostype/freebsd4.m4, > which defines LOCAL_MAILER_PATH as /usr/libexec/mail.local. You'll > probably want to use /etc/mail/freebsd.mc as the starting point for your > sendmail configuration. > yes it has but upon reboot for a few time `can not exec /bin/mail' still show up. and that is why i have to edit local.m4 instead. there is no sendmail.mc but freebsd.mc thanks for your time indeed. -- with best regards, psr http://www.thai-aec.org http://www.thai.net/makham From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 00:56:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5166316A4CE for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:56:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from gw.catspoiler.org (217-ip-163.nccn.net [209.79.217.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD9B43D1F for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:56:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from truckman@FreeBSD.org) Received: from FreeBSD.org (mousie.catspoiler.org [192.168.101.2]) by gw.catspoiler.org (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i0N8uY7E066551; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:56:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from truckman@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <200401230856.i0N8uY7E066551@gw.catspoiler.org> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:56:34 -0800 (PST) From: Don Lewis To: pirat@access.inet.co.th In-Reply-To: <20040123082336.GB355@thai-aec.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: SYSERR(root) Can not exec /bin/mail: No such file or directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 08:56:52 -0000 On 23 Jan, pirat wrote: > On Friday, 23 January 2004 at 0:04:20 -0800, Don Lewis wrote: >> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:04:20 -0800 (PST) >> From: Don Lewis >> Subject: Re: SYSERR(root) Can not exec /bin/mail: No such file or directory >> To: pirat@access.inet.co.th >> cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org >> >> On 23 Jan, pirat wrote: >> > hi sirs, >> > >> > i hvae just noticed that if /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/mailer/local.m4 has >> > a line that says >> > >> > ifdef(`LOCAL_MAILER_PATH',, `define(`LOCAL_MAILER_PATH', /bin/mail)') >> > >> > will result in error at boot time. i simply change that line to >> > >> > ifdef(`LOCAL_MAILER_PATH',, `define(`LOCAL_MAILER_PATH', /usr/bin/mail)') >> > >> > and error disappears after doing make install at /etc/mail. but i do not >> > know of any side effects will happen. my system is >> > >> > [firak] /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/mailer # uname -a >> > FreeBSD firak.thai-aec.org 4.9-STABLE FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE #3: Fri Jan 23 10:25:43 >> > ICT 2004 root@firak.thai-aec.org:/var/obj/usr/src/sys/Firak i386 >> > [firak] /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/mailer # >> >> It looks like your sendmail .mc file (which is used to build your >> sendmail.cf) is missing the >> OSTYPE(freebsd4) >> statement which pulls in >> /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/ostype/freebsd4.m4, >> which defines LOCAL_MAILER_PATH as /usr/libexec/mail.local. You'll >> probably want to use /etc/mail/freebsd.mc as the starting point for your >> sendmail configuration. >> > > yes it has but upon reboot for a few time `can not exec /bin/mail' still > show up. and that is why i have to edit local.m4 instead. > > there is no sendmail.mc but freebsd.mc Do you have a .mc in /etc/mail? If so, the Makefile will pick that instead of freebsd.mc. As long as the .mc file uses OSTYPE(freebsd4) and nothing else overrides LOCAL_MAILER_PATH, the definition of LOCAL_MAILER_PATH in /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/ostype/freebsd4.m4 should override the default in local.m4. For doing final delivery to /var/mail/username you need to use /usr/libexec/mail.local if you are running FreeBSD 4.x, unless you have installed some other local delivery agent such as procmail, etc. This is what I've got in my /etc/mail/freebsd.cf file, which is created from freebsd.mc, on my 4.9-STABLE machine. Mlocal, P=/usr/libexec/mail.local, F=lsDFMAw5:/|@qPSXfmnz9, S=EnvFromSMT P/HdrFromL, R=EnvToL/HdrToL, T=DNS/RFC822/SMTP, A=mail.local -l I have not made any modifications to /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/* From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 01:33:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BF5F16A4CE; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 01:33:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from access.inet.co.th (access.inet.co.th [203.151.127.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C16443DB0; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 01:30:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pirat@access.inet.co.th) Received: from firak.thai-aec.org (TruPPPv92-225-22.inet.co.th [203.151.225.22]) by access.inet.co.th (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id i0N9SxG2085443; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 16:29:00 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from pirat@access.inet.co.th) Received: from firak.thai-aec.org (localhost.thai-aec.org [127.0.0.1]) by firak.thai-aec.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0N9UTrf000892; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 16:30:29 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from pirat@access.inet.co.th) Received: (from pirat@localhost) by firak.thai-aec.org (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i0N9UTYr000891; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 16:30:29 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from pirat@access.inet.co.th) X-Authentication-Warning: firak.thai-aec.org: pirat set sender to pirat@access.inet.co.th using -f Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 16:30:28 +0700 From: pirat To: Don Lewis Message-ID: <20040123093028.GC355@thai-aec.org> References: <20040123082336.GB355@thai-aec.org> <200401230856.i0N8uY7E066551@gw.catspoiler.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=tis-620 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200401230856.i0N8uY7E066551@gw.catspoiler.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD firak.thai-aec.org 4.9-STABLE FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE www-home-page: http://www.thai-aec.org www-FreeBSD-page: http://www.thai.net/makham cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: SYSERR(root) Can not exec /bin/mail: No such file or directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 09:33:44 -0000 hi sirs, On Friday, 23 January 2004 at 0:56:34 -0800, Don Lewis wrote: > Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:56:34 -0800 (PST) > From: Don Lewis > Subject: Re: SYSERR(root) Can not exec /bin/mail: No such file or directory > To: pirat@access.inet.co.th > cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org > > On 23 Jan, pirat wrote: > > On Friday, 23 January 2004 at 0:04:20 -0800, Don Lewis wrote: > >> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:04:20 -0800 (PST) > >> From: Don Lewis > >> Subject: Re: SYSERR(root) Can not exec /bin/mail: No such file or directory > >> To: pirat@access.inet.co.th > >> cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org > >> > >> On 23 Jan, pirat wrote: > >> > hi sirs, > >> > > >> > i hvae just noticed that if /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/mailer/local.m4 has > >> > a line that says > >> > > >> > ifdef(`LOCAL_MAILER_PATH',, `define(`LOCAL_MAILER_PATH', /bin/mail)') > >> > > >> > will result in error at boot time. i simply change that line to > >> > > >> > ifdef(`LOCAL_MAILER_PATH',, `define(`LOCAL_MAILER_PATH', /usr/bin/mail)') > >> > > >> > and error disappears after doing make install at /etc/mail. but i do not > >> > know of any side effects will happen. my system is > >> > > >> > [firak] /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/mailer # uname -a > >> > FreeBSD firak.thai-aec.org 4.9-STABLE FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE #3: Fri Jan 23 10:25:43 > >> > ICT 2004 root@firak.thai-aec.org:/var/obj/usr/src/sys/Firak i386 > >> > [firak] /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/mailer # > >> > >> It looks like your sendmail .mc file (which is used to build your > >> sendmail.cf) is missing the > >> OSTYPE(freebsd4) > >> statement which pulls in > >> /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/ostype/freebsd4.m4, > >> which defines LOCAL_MAILER_PATH as /usr/libexec/mail.local. You'll > >> probably want to use /etc/mail/freebsd.mc as the starting point for your > >> sendmail configuration. > >> > > > > yes it has but upon reboot for a few time `can not exec /bin/mail' still > > show up. and that is why i have to edit local.m4 instead. > > > > Do you have a .mc in /etc/mail? If so, the Makefile will pick > that instead of freebsd.mc. > i rm all of them before doing make > > As long as the .mc file uses OSTYPE(freebsd4) and nothing else > overrides LOCAL_MAILER_PATH, the definition of LOCAL_MAILER_PATH in > /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/ostype/freebsd4.m4 should override the > default in local.m4. > > For doing final delivery to /var/mail/username you need to use > /usr/libexec/mail.local if you are running FreeBSD 4.x, unless you have > installed some other local delivery agent such as procmail, etc. > i use only sendmail. > > This is what I've got in my /etc/mail/freebsd.cf file, which is created > from freebsd.mc, on my 4.9-STABLE machine. > > Mlocal, P=/usr/libexec/mail.local, F=lsDFMAw5:/|@qPSXfmnz9, S=EnvFromSMT > P/HdrFromL, R=EnvToL/HdrToL, > T=DNS/RFC822/SMTP, > A=mail.local -l > currently, my Mlocal is the same as yours. this is quite strange. > > I have not made any modifications to /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/* > i will revert local.m4 back and retry. thanks for your hints and helps indeed. -- with best regards, psr http://www.thai-aec.org http://www.thai.net/makham From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 03:14:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21A5E16A4CE; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 03:14:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.hispeed.ch (mxout.hispeed.ch [62.2.95.247]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E1A43D54; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 03:14:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hampi@rootshell.be) Received: from gicco.homeip.net (217-162-159-68.dclient.hispeed.ch [217.162.159.68])i0NBE5dO005588 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:14:06 +0100 Received: from localhost.here (idefix@gicco.homeip.net [127.0.0.1]) by gicco.homeip.net (8.12.8p2/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i0NBE4r4000622; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:14:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from hampi@rootshell.be) Received: (from idefix@localhost) by localhost.here (8.12.8p2/8.12.8/Submit) id i0NBE3n7000621; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:14:03 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.here: idefix set sender to hampi@rootshell.be using -f Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:14:03 +0100 From: Hanspeter Roth To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040123111403.GA490@gicco.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <20040122231316.GA75352@gicco.homeip.net> <20040122232028.GA5845@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> <401062E9.7020407@barryp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <401062E9.7020407@barryp.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: ipfilter doesn't compile in 5.2-Release X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 11:14:18 -0000 On Jan 22 at 17:55, Barry Pederson spoke: > Brooks Davis wrote: > > >You missed the line four lines below options IPFILTER: > > > >options PFIL_HOOKS #required by IPFILTER > > Can we put PFIL_HOOKS in the GENERIC kernel config, so a person doesn't > have to recompile the kernel to use IPFilter - like it was back in later > versions of 4.x? Or maybe shift PFIL_HOOKS just above IPFILTER in /sys/conf/NOTES, so that it is found first when one searches for IPFILTER. -Hanspeter From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 06:29:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A20DB16A4CE for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 06:29:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from neuron.tuke.sk (neuron-ai.fei.tuke.sk [147.232.24.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0C1843D49 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 06:29:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from babjak@neuron.tuke.sk) Received: from babjak by neuron.tuke.sk with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Ak2Jc-0007xW-00 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:29:44 +0100 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:29:44 +0100 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040123142944.GA29470@neuron.tuke.sk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i From: Jozef Babjak Subject: correct way to cvsup ports for -stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: babjak@neuron.tuke.sk List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 14:29:47 -0000 Hi! A similar topic has been disscused here several days ago, but I still don't understand, how correctly update ports tree via cvsup. I have installed 4.9-release. I upgraded to -stable according to /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile (I have changed only '*default host=...' line, all rest I kept untouched) and I done make world and kernel... I understand well how to upgrade system, but my questions about ports are: 1) Is it ok to upgrade ports, or do I have keep ports instaled from -release CD? 2) If I should upgrade ports, how exactly? Which file from examples I should use and how I need to modify it? There is nothing about ports upgrade in stable-supfile and ports-supfile deals about -current. Is it enough to use cvs-supfile from examples directory, change a cvsup server and comment out 'doc-all' and 'cvsroot-all', isn't it? Sorry for (maybe) stupid questions; I read comments in stable-supfile and handbook, but this is still not clear for me. Jozef From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 06:39:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93F3F16A4D5 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 06:39:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from freebsd.org.ru (sweet.etrust.ru [194.84.67.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0909243D3F for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 06:39:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from osa@freebsd.org.ru) Received: by freebsd.org.ru (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3083639B; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 17:39:09 +0300 (MSK) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 17:39:09 +0300 From: "Sergey A. Osokin" To: Jozef Babjak Message-ID: <20040123143908.GJ35515@freebsd.org.ru> References: <20040123142944.GA29470@neuron.tuke.sk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040123142944.GA29470@neuron.tuke.sk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: correct way to cvsup ports for -stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 14:39:12 -0000 On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 03:29:44PM +0100, Jozef Babjak wrote: > A similar topic has been disscused here several days ago, but I still don't > understand, how correctly update ports tree via cvsup. I have installed > 4.9-release. I upgraded to -stable according to > /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile (I have changed only '*default > host=...' line, all rest I kept untouched) and I done make world and kernel... > I understand well how to upgrade system, but my questions about ports are: > > 1) Is it ok to upgrade ports, or do I have keep ports instaled from -release CD? Upgrade ports - OK. > 2) If I should upgrade ports, how exactly? Which file from examples I should use > and how I need to modify it? Use CVSup and /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile. > There is nothing about ports upgrade in > stable-supfile and ports-supfile deals about -current. Is it enough to use > cvs-supfile from examples directory, change a cvsup server and comment out > 'doc-all' and 'cvsroot-all', isn't it? Please don't change anythink in system-wide files, read cvsup(1) for understand -h key. > Sorry for (maybe) stupid questions; I read comments in stable-supfile and > handbook, but this is still not clear for me. Right a superb clear parts for handbook and then submit'em all via send-pr(1) interface to FreeBSD community. -- Rgdz, /"\ ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN Sergey Osokin aka oZZ, \ / AGAINST HTML MAIL http://ozz.pp.ru/ X AND NEWS / \ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 06:44:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 223C116A4CE for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 06:44:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from falcon.midgard.homeip.net (h201n1fls24o1048.bredband.comhem.se [212.181.162.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E4D1143D66 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 06:43:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: (qmail 8395 invoked by uid 1001); 23 Jan 2004 14:43:31 -0000 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:43:31 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Jozef Babjak Message-ID: <20040123144331.GA8375@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Jozef Babjak , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20040123142944.GA29470@neuron.tuke.sk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040123142944.GA29470@neuron.tuke.sk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: correct way to cvsup ports for -stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 14:44:09 -0000 On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 03:29:44PM +0100, Jozef Babjak wrote: > Hi! > > A similar topic has been disscused here several days ago, but I still don't > understand, how correctly update ports tree via cvsup. I have installed > 4.9-release. I upgraded to -stable according to > /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile (I have changed only '*default > host=...' line, all rest I kept untouched) and I done make world and kernel... > I understand well how to upgrade system, but my questions about ports are: > > 1) Is it ok to upgrade ports, or do I have keep ports instaled from -release CD? It is certainly OK, I would even recommend it. > > 2) If I should upgrade ports, how exactly? Which file from examples I should use > and how I need to modify it? There is nothing about ports upgrade in > stable-supfile and ports-supfile deals about -current. Is it enough to use > cvs-supfile from examples directory, change a cvsup server and comment out > 'doc-all' and 'cvsroot-all', isn't it? Start from /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile change the cvsup server to use, and you should be ready to go. Ignore the references to -current in that file. The ports tree and upgrade procedure is identical between -stable and -current. The cvs-supfile example file is for when you want to get a local copy of the whole CVS repository, and not just the latest files. That can be very useful in some circumstances, but I don't think that is what you want or need at the moment. > > Sorry for (maybe) stupid questions; I read comments in stable-supfile and > handbook, but this is still not clear for me. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 07:02:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4302316A4CE for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 07:02:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from saturn.criticalmagic.com (saturn.criticalmagic.com [68.213.16.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B3AC43D41 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 07:02:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from richardcoleman@mindspring.com) Received: from mindspring.com (titan.criticalmagic.com [68.213.16.23]) by saturn.criticalmagic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5DD03BD10; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:02:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <40113772.5080707@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:02:10 -0500 From: Richard Coleman Organization: Critical Magic, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: babjak@neuron.tuke.sk References: <20040123142944.GA29470@neuron.tuke.sk> In-Reply-To: <20040123142944.GA29470@neuron.tuke.sk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: correct way to cvsup ports for -stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: richardcoleman@mindspring.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:02:06 -0000 If you are talking about updating the ports tree on a single machine via cvsup, then it's easy. Just make a copy of /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile and update the name of the cvsup mirror in this config file (say cvsup3.freebsd.org). Then the command "cvsup -g -L 2 ports-supfile" will get you an updated tree. That's it. If you use portupgrade to manage your ports (recommended), you will then need to execute "portsdb -Uu" to rebuild your INDEX.db file. To answer your question below, there is only one ports tree. So, even if you are following -STABLE for the base code, you will still follow the HEAD tag (-CURRENT) for the ports tree. So you generally cvsup twice, once for /usr/src and once for /usr/ports. The ports tree is generally pretty stable, so it works out just fine. There are refinements to this procedure if you have many machines or want to keep a copy of the whole CVS tree (for looking at CVS logs, etc). Read the development(7) man page for an example. Richard Coleman richardcoleman@mindspring.com Jozef Babjak wrote: > Hi! > > A similar topic has been disscused here several days ago, but I still don't > understand, how correctly update ports tree via cvsup. I have installed > 4.9-release. I upgraded to -stable according to > /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile (I have changed only '*default > host=...' line, all rest I kept untouched) and I done make world and kernel... > I understand well how to upgrade system, but my questions about ports are: > > 1) Is it ok to upgrade ports, or do I have keep ports instaled from -release CD? > > 2) If I should upgrade ports, how exactly? Which file from examples I should use > and how I need to modify it? There is nothing about ports upgrade in > stable-supfile and ports-supfile deals about -current. Is it enough to use > cvs-supfile from examples directory, change a cvsup server and comment out > 'doc-all' and 'cvsroot-all', isn't it? > > Sorry for (maybe) stupid questions; I read comments in stable-supfile and > handbook, but this is still not clear for me. > > Jozef From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 07:32:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10C2616A4CF for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 07:32:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhub2.midco.net (mailhub2.midco.net [24.220.0.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF5C43D2F for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 07:32:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pmes@bis.midco.net) Received: (qmail 2750 invoked by uid 0); 23 Jan 2004 15:32:31 -0000 Received: from host-195-219-220-24.midco.net (HELO bis.midco.net) ([24.220.219.195]) (envelope-sender ) by lvs-pop.midco.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 23 Jan 2004 15:32:31 -0000 Message-ID: <40113E8E.4040608@bis.midco.net> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 09:32:30 -0600 From: Peter Schultz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031215 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway References: <20040122181744.GA29063@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> <20040122184256.VDFP337997.fep04-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@win2000> <20040122213431.GA73331@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20040122213431.GA73331@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvsup2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:32:34 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 01:45:53PM -0500, Mike Jakubik wrote: > >>Thanks for the info. Cvsup2 was my fastest link :) > > > You can use the fastest_cvsup port to find a replacement in the > meantime. > This is most excellent because my cable company won't allow pinging. Is there something similar for finding the fastest ftp mirror? Thanks, Pete... From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 07:50:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 934E716A4CE for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 07:50:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from master.azm.uz.ua (ns.azm.uz.ua [194.42.193.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7795843D54 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 07:50:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ash@azm.uz.ua) Received: from ashway ([217.194.134.26]) by master.azm.uz.ua (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id i0NFoVVX006904 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 17:50:31 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ash@azm.uz.ua) Message-ID: <005b01c3e1c8$be372660$1a86c2d9@ashway> From: "Andrey Sharandakov" To: References: <20040122181744.GA29063@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU><20040122184256.VDFP337997.fep04-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@win2000><20040122213431.GA73331@xor.obsecurity.org> <40113E8E.4040608@bis.midco.net> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 17:51:19 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: make.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:50:40 -0000 Hello! Can anybody send me a working make.conf file for building Freebsd 4.9 world for i386? Thanks. -- Best regards, Andrey Sharandakov From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 08:53:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5E7516A4CE for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 08:53:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-67-119-53-122.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [67.119.53.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA0343D8A for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 08:52:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2306A66DF2; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 08:50:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 08:50:49 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Andrey Sharandakov Message-ID: <20040123165048.GA87436@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <40113E8E.4040608@bis.midco.net> <005b01c3e1c8$be372660$1a86c2d9@ashway> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <005b01c3e1c8$be372660$1a86c2d9@ashway> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 16:53:47 -0000 --x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 05:51:19PM +0200, Andrey Sharandakov wrote: > Hello! >=20 > Can anybody send me a working make.conf file > for building Freebsd 4.9 world for i386? An empty make.conf file is appropriate, if you don't want to customize anything. Kris --x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAEVDoWry0BWjoQKURApNOAJ0SbG6LMFhTfD84Q+7IwOMqKScwjACcCaDk 0Z9rBWyZqVQP5JWbTEiUKAc= =qKFz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 08:57:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CD9316A4CE for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 08:57:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from master.azm.uz.ua (ns.azm.uz.ua [194.42.193.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84C4443D67 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 08:57:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ash@azm.uz.ua) Received: from ashway ([217.194.134.26]) by master.azm.uz.ua (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id i0NGvjVX008243 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:57:45 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ash@azm.uz.ua) Message-ID: <00a101c3e1d2$228948b0$1a86c2d9@ashway> From: "Andrey Sharandakov" To: References: <40113E8E.4040608@bis.midco.net> <005b01c3e1c8$be372660$1a86c2d9@ashway> <20040123165048.GA87436@xor.obsecurity.org> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:58:33 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: Re: make.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 16:57:55 -0000 That's OK! What does this option mean? NOLIBC_R (re-entrant version of libc) - What is it? -- Best regards, Andrey Sharandakov From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 08:59:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B15FC16A4CF for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 08:59:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx.sat.corp.rackspace.com (mx.sat.corp.rackspace.com [64.39.1.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18BE943D77 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 08:59:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from amason@rackspace.com) Received: from mail.rackspace.com (mail.rackspace.com [64.39.2.181]) i0NGv150031906 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:57:01 -0600 Received: from [10.1.101.24] (office101-24.sat.rackspace.com [10.1.101.24]) by mail.rackspace.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0NGx532018990 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:59:05 -0600 From: Art Mason To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20040123142944.GA29470@neuron.tuke.sk> References: <20040123142944.GA29470@neuron.tuke.sk> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Rackspace Managed Hosting Message-Id: <1074877328.37559.27.camel@mizar.rackspace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 11:02:09 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MailScanner: Dd6rvCg9: Found to be clean Subject: Re: correct way to cvsup ports for -stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 16:59:31 -0000 In addition, after running portsdb -Uu (after you've cvsup'ed), running: portversion -l "<" will provide you with a list of outdated installed ports/packages. You can then upgrade each package individually: portupgrade mplayer or upgrade all installed and out-of-date ports/packages: portupgrade -ar You might also want to read over ONLamp's take on this issue: Ports Tricks http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/07/FreeBSD_Basics.html Cleaning Up Ports http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2001/11/29/Big_Scary_Daemons.html Hope this helps, I can't guarantee that this is the absolute "right way", but it's worked for me without fail up to this point. If, however, there are any glaring errors in my procedures, please correct them. Kindest regards. -- Art Mason Technical Support - Team F Rackspace Managed Hosting (800) 961-4454 ext. 1223 amason@rackspace.com On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 08:29, Jozef Babjak wrote: > Hi! > > A similar topic has been disscused here several days ago, but I still don't > understand, how correctly update ports tree via cvsup. I have installed > 4.9-release. I upgraded to -stable according to > /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile (I have changed only '*default > host=...' line, all rest I kept untouched) and I done make world and kernel... > I understand well how to upgrade system, but my questions about ports are: > > 1) Is it ok to upgrade ports, or do I have keep ports instaled from -release CD? > > 2) If I should upgrade ports, how exactly? Which file from examples I should use > and how I need to modify it? There is nothing about ports upgrade in > stable-supfile and ports-supfile deals about -current. Is it enough to use > cvs-supfile from examples directory, change a cvsup server and comment out > 'doc-all' and 'cvsroot-all', isn't it? > > Sorry for (maybe) stupid questions; I read comments in stable-supfile and > handbook, but this is still not clear for me. > > Jozef > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 09:00:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE92016A4CE for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 09:00:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.stack.nl (vaak.stack.nl [131.155.140.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E4043D53 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 08:59:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcolz@stack.nl) Received: from turtle.stack.nl (turtle.stack.nl [2001:610:1108:5010:2e0:81ff:fe22:51d8]) by mailhost.stack.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4011530D#617B91F025; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 17:59:57 +0100 (CET) Received: by turtle.stack.nl (Postfix, from userid 333) id 3C1A51CC71; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 17:59:57 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 17:59:57 +0100 From: Marc Olzheim To: Andrey Sharandakov Message-ID: <20040123165957.GA37248@stack.nl> References: <40113E8E.4040608@bis.midco.net> <005b01c3e1c8$be372660$1a86c2d9@ashway> <20040123165048.GA87436@xor.obsecurity.org> <00a101c3e1d2$228948b0$1a86c2d9@ashway> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00a101c3e1d2$228948b0$1a86c2d9@ashway> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD turtle.stack.nl 5.2-BETA FreeBSD 5.2-BETA X-URL: http://www.stack.nl/~marcolz/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 17:00:02 -0000 On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 06:58:33PM +0200, Andrey Sharandakov wrote: > That's OK! > > What does this option mean? > NOLIBC_R (re-entrant version of libc) - What is it? It's the thread-safe version of libc, including a pthreads-implementation itself. Zlo From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 09:01:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C880116A4CE for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 09:01:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (rrcs-midsouth-24-172-16-118.biz.rr.com [24.172.16.118]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C0043D3F for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 09:00:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from [10.2.1.4] (vpn-client-4.marcuscom.com [10.2.1.4]) i0NGwUsm000252; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 11:58:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) From: Joe Marcus Clarke To: Andrey Sharandakov In-Reply-To: <00a101c3e1d2$228948b0$1a86c2d9@ashway> References: <40113E8E.4040608@bis.midco.net> <005b01c3e1c8$be372660$1a86c2d9@ashway> <20040123165048.GA87436@xor.obsecurity.org> <00a101c3e1d2$228948b0$1a86c2d9@ashway> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-fgaEDjlpLFA8kYc4+xx3" Organization: MarcusCom, Inc. Message-Id: <1074877226.768.15.camel@gyros> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:00:26 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.61 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.61 (1.212.2.1-2003-12-09-exp) on creme-brulee.marcuscom.com cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 17:01:24 -0000 --=-fgaEDjlpLFA8kYc4+xx3 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 11:58, Andrey Sharandakov wrote: > That's OK! >=20 > What does this option mean? > NOLIBC_R (re-entrant version of libc) - What is it? If you plan on using any threaded applications (e.g. Mozilla, GNOME, KDE, etc.). DO NOT define that option. Joe >=20 > -- > Best regards, > Andrey Sharandakov >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --=20 PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc --=-fgaEDjlpLFA8kYc4+xx3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBAEVMqb2iPiv4Uz4cRAtvFAJ4tlwH3XqLabzOKHWjqi6V8RIy9EQCaA/qU 88iXOQQXA0E8Z7ZXb7Lamlo= =fl4e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-fgaEDjlpLFA8kYc4+xx3-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 09:07:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A278616A4D5 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 09:07:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from out005.verizon.net (out005pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E16943D9F for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 09:06:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com ([68.161.129.47]) by out005.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20040123170638.VAQR2677.out005.verizon.net@mac.com>; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 11:06:38 -0600 Message-ID: <40115486.5030300@mac.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:06:14 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrey Sharandakov References: <40113E8E.4040608@bis.midco.net> <005b01c3e1c8$be372660$1a86c2d9@ashway> <20040123165048.GA87436@xor.obsecurity.org> <00a101c3e1d2$228948b0$1a86c2d9@ashway> In-Reply-To: <00a101c3e1d2$228948b0$1a86c2d9@ashway> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out005.verizon.net from [68.161.129.47] at Fri, 23 Jan 2004 11:06:38 -0600 cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 17:07:29 -0000 Andrey Sharandakov wrote: > That's OK! > > What does this option mean? > NOLIBC_R (re-entrant version of libc) - What is it? libc is the basic C library which provides the routines expected by ANSI/POSIX. A re-entrant version of a library is one that is thread-safe. LIBC_R is presumably required by programs which use POSIX threads, aka pthreads. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 09:53:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38F3A16A4DD for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 09:53:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from master.azm.uz.ua (ns.azm.uz.ua [194.42.193.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9174B43D3F for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 09:53:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ash@azm.uz.ua) Received: from ashway ([217.194.134.26]) by master.azm.uz.ua (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id i0NHr7VX009300 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 19:53:14 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ash@azm.uz.ua) Message-ID: <014201c3e1d9$e2fadcb0$1a86c2d9@ashway> From: "Andrey Sharandakov" To: References: <40113E8E.4040608@bis.midco.net><005b01c3e1c8$be372660$1a86c2d9@ashway><20040123165048.GA87436@xor.obsecurity.org> <00a101c3e1d2$228948b0$1a86c2d9@ashway> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 19:53:55 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: Re: make.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 17:53:30 -0000 And what do these options mean? NO_SHAREDOC NOPORTDOCS Thanks. -- Best regards, Andrey Sharandakov From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 10:05:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE6816A4CE for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:05:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from just.puresimplicity.net (just.puresimplicity.net [140.177.207.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B3E43D3F for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:04:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hemi@puresimplicity.net) Received: from just.puresimplicity.net (localhost.puresimplicity.net [127.0.0.1])i0NI1TZa085173 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:01:29 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hemi@just.puresimplicity.net) Received: (from hemi@localhost) by just.puresimplicity.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id i0NI1TfV085172; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:01:29 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hemi) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:01:29 -0600 From: Josh Tolbert To: Andrey Sharandakov Message-ID: <20040123180129.GA85152@just.puresimplicity.net> References: <00a101c3e1d2$228948b0$1a86c2d9@ashway> <014201c3e1d9$e2fadcb0$1a86c2d9@ashway> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <014201c3e1d9$e2fadcb0$1a86c2d9@ashway> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:05:01 -0000 On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 07:53:55PM +0200, Andrey Sharandakov wrote: > And what do these options mean? > > NO_SHAREDOC > NOPORTDOCS > > Thanks. > > -- > Best regards, > Andrey Sharandakov Hi Andrey, These options probably do what /etc/defaults/make.conf says they do. You may consider taking a look at that file. Thanks, Josh -- Josh Tolbert hemi@puresimplicity.net || http://www.puresimplicity.net/~hemi/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 10:07:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED3716A4CE for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:07:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (rrcs-midsouth-24-172-16-118.biz.rr.com [24.172.16.118]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B32743D72 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:05:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from [10.2.1.4] (vpn-client-4.marcuscom.com [10.2.1.4]) i0NI2Ssm000916; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 13:02:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) From: Joe Marcus Clarke To: Andrey Sharandakov In-Reply-To: <014201c3e1d9$e2fadcb0$1a86c2d9@ashway> References: <40113E8E.4040608@bis.midco.net> <005b01c3e1c8$be372660$1a86c2d9@ashway> <20040123165048.GA87436@xor.obsecurity.org> <00a101c3e1d2$228948b0$1a86c2d9@ashway> <014201c3e1d9$e2fadcb0$1a86c2d9@ashway> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-V//6QcvdodiGlRJAzmM5" Organization: MarcusCom, Inc. Message-Id: <1074881065.768.31.camel@gyros> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 13:04:25 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.61 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.61 (1.212.2.1-2003-12-09-exp) on creme-brulee.marcuscom.com cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:07:06 -0000 --=-V//6QcvdodiGlRJAzmM5 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 12:53, Andrey Sharandakov wrote: > And what do these options mean? >=20 > NO_SHAREDOC > NOPORTDOCS >=20 > Thanks. NO_SHAREDOCS is documented in /etc/defaults/make.conf on 4.X and /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf on 5.X. NOPORTDOCS is documented (or rather it's positive PORTDOCS is documented) in /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk. Joe >=20 > -- > Best regards, > Andrey Sharandakov >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --=20 PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc --=-V//6QcvdodiGlRJAzmM5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBAEWIpb2iPiv4Uz4cRApxWAJ4iN4AaCzZJ1eqOLlEI2fCdrafGjgCeLNqI QDCMJFnXEDy+kOEKpdHo8Aw= =nWBA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-V//6QcvdodiGlRJAzmM5-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 10:08:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C89BB16A4CF for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:08:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E562D43D45 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:07:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-stable-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.no-ip.com ([66.30.196.44]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2004012318074901500kdtjke>; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:07:49 +0000 Received: by be-well.no-ip.com (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 35CD111; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 13:07:49 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: "Andrey Sharandakov" References: <40113E8E.4040608@bis.midco.net> <005b01c3e1c8$be372660$1a86c2d9@ashway> <20040123165048.GA87436@xor.obsecurity.org> <00a101c3e1d2$228948b0$1a86c2d9@ashway> <014201c3e1d9$e2fadcb0$1a86c2d9@ashway> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 23 Jan 2004 13:07:49 -0500 In-Reply-To: <014201c3e1d9$e2fadcb0$1a86c2d9@ashway> Message-ID: <44ektqilmy.fsf_-_@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 13 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: [manual pointer] Re: make.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:08:30 -0000 "Andrey Sharandakov" writes: > And what do these options mean? > > NO_SHAREDOC > NOPORTDOCS According to "man make.conf",: NO_SHAREDOCS (bool) Set to not build the 4.4BSD legacy docs. NOPORTDOCS (bool) Set this to disable installing additional documenta- tion with ports. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 10:28:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA86F16A4CE for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:28:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from master.azm.uz.ua (ns.azm.uz.ua [194.42.193.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75EE843D54 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:28:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ash@azm.uz.ua) Received: from ashway ([217.194.134.26]) by master.azm.uz.ua (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id i0NISfVX009964 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 20:28:41 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ash@azm.uz.ua) Message-ID: <016301c3e1de$d6daaaf0$1a86c2d9@ashway> From: "Andrey Sharandakov" To: References: <40113E8E.4040608@bis.midco.net><005b01c3e1c8$be372660$1a86c2d9@ashway><20040123165048.GA87436@xor.obsecurity.org><00a101c3e1d2$228948b0$1a86c2d9@ashway><014201c3e1d9$e2fadcb0$1a86c2d9@ashway> <44ektqilmy.fsf_-_@be-well.ilk.org> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 20:29:29 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: Re: make.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:28:56 -0000 I know it. But... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lowell Gilbert" To: "Andrey Sharandakov" Cc: Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 8:07 PM Subject: [manual pointer] Re: make.conf > "Andrey Sharandakov" writes: > > > And what do these options mean? > > > > NO_SHAREDOC > > NOPORTDOCS > > According to "man make.conf",: > > NO_SHAREDOCS (bool) Set to not build the 4.4BSD legacy docs. What are legacy docs? > > NOPORTDOCS (bool) Set this to disable installing additional documenta- > tion with ports. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 10:47:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2266516A4CF for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:47:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (rrcs-midsouth-24-172-16-118.biz.rr.com [24.172.16.118]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D3143D1D for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:47:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from [10.2.1.4] (vpn-client-4.marcuscom.com [10.2.1.4]) i0NIVcsm001264; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 13:31:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) From: Joe Marcus Clarke To: Andrey Sharandakov In-Reply-To: <016301c3e1de$d6daaaf0$1a86c2d9@ashway> References: <40113E8E.4040608@bis.midco.net> <005b01c3e1c8$be372660$1a86c2d9@ashway> <20040123165048.GA87436@xor.obsecurity.org> <00a101c3e1d2$228948b0$1a86c2d9@ashway> <44ektqilmy.fsf_-_@be-well.ilk.org> <016301c3e1de$d6daaaf0$1a86c2d9@ashway> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-l9dkcsaF/IDu3utEl4iv" Organization: MarcusCom, Inc. Message-Id: <1074882815.768.48.camel@gyros> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 13:33:35 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.61 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.61 (1.212.2.1-2003-12-09-exp) on creme-brulee.marcuscom.com cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:47:46 -0000 --=-l9dkcsaF/IDu3utEl4iv Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 13:29, Andrey Sharandakov wrote: > I know it. But... >=20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: "Lowell Gilbert" > To: "Andrey Sharandakov" > Cc: > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 8:07 PM > Subject: [manual pointer] Re: make.conf >=20 >=20 > > "Andrey Sharandakov" writes: > > > > > And what do these options mean? > > > > > > NO_SHAREDOC > > > NOPORTDOCS > > > > According to "man make.conf",: > > > > NO_SHAREDOCS (bool) Set to not build the 4.4BSD legacy docs. >=20 > What are legacy docs? Take a look at some of the stuff in /usr/share/doc. Specifically, this is the old System Manager's Manual, various whitepapers, and instruction/design manuals. Joe >=20 > > > > NOPORTDOCS (bool) Set this to disable installing additional > documenta- > > tion with ports. > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --=20 PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc --=-l9dkcsaF/IDu3utEl4iv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBAEWj/b2iPiv4Uz4cRAmIiAJ4q4JkLrn7gB085OWdEaEZZMLMGmgCffOvB eemffkt09pxSqTbLZoJFLXo= =nM9j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-l9dkcsaF/IDu3utEl4iv-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 10:57:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04CE016A4CE for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:57:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from master.azm.uz.ua (ns.azm.uz.ua [194.42.193.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55EB043D45 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:57:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ash@azm.uz.ua) Received: from ashway ([217.194.134.26]) by master.azm.uz.ua (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id i0NIvdVX010491 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 20:57:40 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ash@azm.uz.ua) Message-ID: <01aa01c3e1e2$e3209e10$1a86c2d9@ashway> From: "Andrey Sharandakov" To: Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 20:58:26 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: buildworld and installworld X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:57:46 -0000 Hi! 1. How can I change default dir. for buildworld output? (/ust/obj to /some_dir/obj) 2. How can I install (make installworld) world into different dir. then root dir.? -- Best regards, Andrey Sharandakov From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 10:58:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6DB616A4CE for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:58:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from master.azm.uz.ua (ns.azm.uz.ua [194.42.193.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9EA743D4C for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:58:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ash@azm.uz.ua) Received: from ashway ([217.194.134.26]) by master.azm.uz.ua (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id i0NIweVX010537 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 20:58:40 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ash@azm.uz.ua) Message-ID: <01ac01c3e1e3$06af8da0$1a86c2d9@ashway> From: "Andrey Sharandakov" To: References: <40113E8E.4040608@bis.midco.net><005b01c3e1c8$be372660$1a86c2d9@ashway><20040123165048.GA87436@xor.obsecurity.org><00a101c3e1d2$228948b0$1a86c2d9@ashway><44ektqilmy.fsf_-_@be-well.ilk.org><016301c3e1de$d6daaaf0$1a86c2d9@ashway> <1074882815.768.48.camel@gyros> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 20:59:28 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: Re: make.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:58:53 -0000 Thanks to All! -- Best regards, Andrey Sharandakov From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 11:04:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F5916A4CF for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 11:04:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay.macomnet.ru (relay.macomnet.ru [195.128.64.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0271A43D48 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 11:04:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from maxim@macomnet.ru) Received: from news1.macomnet.ru (pghx0wty@news1.macomnet.ru [195.128.64.14]) by relay.macomnet.ru (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0NJ3vo24518066; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 22:03:57 +0300 (MSK) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 22:03:57 +0300 (MSK) From: Maxim Konovalov To: Andrey Sharandakov In-Reply-To: <01aa01c3e1e2$e3209e10$1a86c2d9@ashway> Message-ID: <20040123220108.I56792@news1.macomnet.ru> References: <01aa01c3e1e2$e3209e10$1a86c2d9@ashway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: buildworld and installworld X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 19:04:05 -0000 freebsd-questions@ material. On Fri, 23 Jan 2004, 20:58+0200, Andrey Sharandakov wrote: > Hi! > > 1. How can I change default dir. for buildworld output? > (/ust/obj to /some_dir/obj) make MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/some_dir/obj > 2. How can I install (make installworld) world into different dir. > then root dir.? make DESTDIR=/mnt installworld Hint: more /usr/src/Makefile. -- Maxim Konovalov, maxim@macomnet.ru, maxim@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 11:32:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBD0C16A4CE for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 11:32:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from phantom.cris.net (phantom.cris.net [212.110.130.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF8343D6A for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 11:31:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org.ua) Received: from phantom.cris.net (ru@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phantom.cris.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0NJVYem041395; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 21:31:36 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by phantom.cris.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i0NJVRXw041394; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 21:31:27 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 21:31:23 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Maxim Konovalov Message-ID: <20040123193123.GB41158@FreeBSD.org.ua> References: <01aa01c3e1e2$e3209e10$1a86c2d9@ashway> <20040123220108.I56792@news1.macomnet.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="O5XBE6gyVG5Rl6Rj" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040123220108.I56792@news1.macomnet.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i cc: Andrey Sharandakov cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: buildworld and installworld X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 19:32:54 -0000 --O5XBE6gyVG5Rl6Rj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 10:03:57PM +0300, Maxim Konovalov wrote: > freebsd-questions@ material. >=20 > On Fri, 23 Jan 2004, 20:58+0200, Andrey Sharandakov wrote: >=20 > > Hi! > > > > 1. How can I change default dir. for buildworld output? > > (/ust/obj to /some_dir/obj) >=20 > make MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=3D/some_dir/obj >=20 WRONG! While I've made the above work in -CURRENT, this still doesn't work in RELENG_4 and shouldn't be relied upon. From : # MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX Specifies somewhere other than /usr/obj to root the obj= ect # tree. Note: MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX is an *environment* variable # and works properly only if set as an environment variable, # not as a global or command line variable! # # E.g. use `env MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=3D/somewhere/obj make' Compare: $ pwd /tmp/foo/src $ MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=3D/tmp/foo/obj make -f bsd.obj.mk -V .OBJDIR /tmp/foo/obj/tmp/foo/src $ make MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=3D/tmp/foo/obj -f bsd.obj.mk -V .OBJDIR /tmp/foo/src Passing MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX as a command line variable with ``buildworld'' only works because make(1) enters all command line variables in environment before starting any subprocesses. Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov FreeBSD committer ru@FreeBSD.org --O5XBE6gyVG5Rl6Rj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAEXaLUkv4P6juNwoRAhfVAJ9zgprfK7a6Mw/XFTp1XTQLk6P1NwCfVbyO +K8oQ10NM8d7YSS7NG7xbhI= =CYcG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --O5XBE6gyVG5Rl6Rj-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 12:51:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C1F416A4CE; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:51:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (c211-30-75-229.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au [211.30.75.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45EBE43D91; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:50:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from PeterJeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (localhost.alcatel.com.au [127.0.0.1])i0NKoCe3012047; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 07:50:12 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from jeremyp@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au) Received: (from jeremyp@localhost)i0NKo6tY012046; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 07:50:06 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from jeremyp) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 07:50:05 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= Message-ID: <20040123205005.GB4759@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> References: <20040118235148M.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <20040119095453.GA43280@pc5.i.0x5.de> <20040119195826X.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <200401201502.18549.jhb@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: re@freebsd.org cc: John Baldwin Subject: Re: Fix make release for 4-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 20:51:25 -0000 On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 08:41:50AM +0100, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: >John Baldwin writes: >> [...] I have this bad >> feeling that there is some kind of memory corruption bug in the loader and >> that the problem goes away if you use a loader that has forth in it. I presume this was the trying-to-DMA-across-a-64k-boundary problem that was fixed recently. >why use a loader w/o forth? a complete loader with all 4th and conf >files takes about 250k, which will definitely fit on the boot floppy, >and with splitfs we don't need to worry about there being enough room >for the kernel. "goes away" doesn't mean that the problem isn't there. It just means that there's no obvious problem in John's particular splitfs test case. A proper fix is far preferable to masking the problem and finding the bug is far easier when it clearly manifests itself. FORTH in the install loader is an interesting question. Do the benefits of FORTH in the initial install justify its size? (I don't know the answer to this). I agree that we can do it (with the aid of splitfs) but we don't want to unnecessarily bloat the install image. Firstly, writing and reading floppies is painfully slow, though not slow enough that you can usefully do something else whilst waiting. Secondly, install image bloat translates to a higher minimum RAM requirement and the floppy install is likely to be mostly used in older systems which are likely to have less RAM. The last figure I can remember is 16MB RAM (it doesn't seem to be documented in the -RELEASE Hardware notes). The current 16MB limit means that it is non-trivial to install FreeBSD on any normal 386-based system and increasing it further will start biting 486-based systems. I agree that these systems are obsolete but they are still useful as SOHO- grade routers, simple firewalls, printservers etc. Peter From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 13:21:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B79F216A4CE for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 13:21:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.speakeasy.net (mail1.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75E1343D68 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 13:20:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 7829 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2004 21:20:55 -0000 Received: from dsl027-160-063.atl1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) encrypted SMTP for ; 23 Jan 2004 21:20:55 -0000 Received: from 10.50.40.205 (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0NLKlM2031263; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 16:20:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) From: John Baldwin To: Peter Jeremy , Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?q?Sm=F8rgrav?= Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 16:13:26 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <20040118235148M.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <20040123205005.GB4759@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> In-Reply-To: <20040123205005.GB4759@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200401231613.26241.jhb@FreeBSD.org> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: re@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fix make release for 4-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 21:21:28 -0000 On Friday 23 January 2004 03:50 pm, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 08:41:50AM +0100, Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote: > >John Baldwin writes: > >> [...] I have th= is > >> bad feeling that there is some kind of memory corruption bug in the > >> loader and that the problem goes away if you use a loader that has for= th > >> in it. > > I presume this was the trying-to-DMA-across-a-64k-boundary problem > that was fixed recently. Yes. > >why use a loader w/o forth? a complete loader with all 4th and conf > >files takes about 250k, which will definitely fit on the boot floppy, > >and with splitfs we don't need to worry about there being enough room > >for the kernel. > > "goes away" doesn't mean that the problem isn't there. It just means > that there's no obvious problem in John's particular splitfs test case. > A proper fix is far preferable to masking the problem and finding the > bug is far easier when it clearly manifests itself. > > FORTH in the install loader is an interesting question. Do the > benefits of FORTH in the initial install justify its size? (I don't > know the answer to this). I agree that we can do it (with the aid of > splitfs) but we don't want to unnecessarily bloat the install image. > > Firstly, writing and reading floppies is painfully slow, though not > slow enough that you can usefully do something else whilst waiting. > > Secondly, install image bloat translates to a higher minimum RAM > requirement and the floppy install is likely to be mostly used in > older systems which are likely to have less RAM. The last figure I > can remember is 16MB RAM (it doesn't seem to be documented in the > -RELEASE Hardware notes). The current 16MB limit means that it is > non-trivial to install FreeBSD on any normal 386-based system and > increasing it further will start biting 486-based systems. I agree > that these systems are obsolete but they are still useful as SOHO- > grade routers, simple firewalls, printservers etc. The size of the loader doesn't affect how much memory sysinstall needs for = the=20 install, so adding forth support back in won't affect the minimum memory=20 requirement. =2D-=20 John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" =3D http://www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 15:17:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACAA416A4CE; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:17:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org (triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.org [192.58.184.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC31F43D2F; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:17:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from 9ball.rtp.freebsd.org (9ball.rtp.FreeBSD.Org [172.21.1.6]) i0NNHILO060334; 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Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:18:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org (triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.org [192.58.184.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B7943D5A; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:18:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i0NNIGLO060397; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:18:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id i0NNIGVf060396; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:18:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:18:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200401232318.i0NNIGVf060396@triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org> X-Authentication-Warning: triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org: des set sender to Tinderbox using -f Sender: Tinderbox From: Tinderbox To: stable@freebsd.org, alpha@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Subject: [releng_4_9 tinderbox] failure on alpha/alpha X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:18:25 -0000 TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:16 - tinderbox 2.2 running on triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:16 - starting RELENG_4_9 tinderbox run for alpha/alpha TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:16 - cvsupping the source tree TB --- /usr/local/bin/cvsup -1 -g -L 2 /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4_9/alpha/alpha/supfile TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:16 - TB --- /usr/local/bin/cvsup returned exit code 1 TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:16 - TB --- ERROR: unable to cvsup the source tree TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:16 - tinderbox aborted From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 15:18:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DC2F16A4D0; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:18:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org (triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.org [192.58.184.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F58743D54; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:18:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i0NNIGLO060388; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:18:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id i0NNIGQi060387; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:18:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:18:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200401232318.i0NNIGQi060387@triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org> X-Authentication-Warning: triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org: des set sender to Tinderbox using -f Sender: Tinderbox From: Tinderbox To: stable@freebsd.org, i386@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Subject: [releng_4_8 tinderbox] failure on i386/pc98 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:18:26 -0000 TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:15 - tinderbox 2.2 running on triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:15 - starting RELENG_4_8 tinderbox run for i386/pc98 TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:15 - cvsupping the source tree TB --- /usr/local/bin/cvsup -1 -g -L 2 /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4_8/i386/pc98/supfile TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:16 - TB --- /usr/local/bin/cvsup returned exit code 1 TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:16 - TB --- ERROR: unable to cvsup the source tree TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:16 - tinderbox aborted From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 15:18:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0844A16A4D0; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:18:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org (triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.org [192.58.184.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 700E043D39; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:18:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i0NNIFLO060370; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:18:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id i0NNIFgF060369; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:18:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:18:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200401232318.i0NNIFgF060369@triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org> X-Authentication-Warning: triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org: des set sender to Tinderbox using -f Sender: Tinderbox From: Tinderbox To: stable@freebsd.org, alpha@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Subject: [releng_4_8 tinderbox] failure on alpha/alpha X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:18:27 -0000 TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:14 - tinderbox 2.2 running on triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:14 - starting RELENG_4_8 tinderbox run for alpha/alpha TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:14 - cvsupping the source tree TB --- /usr/local/bin/cvsup -1 -g -L 2 /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4_8/alpha/alpha/supfile TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:15 - TB --- /usr/local/bin/cvsup returned exit code 1 TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:15 - TB --- ERROR: unable to cvsup the source tree TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:15 - tinderbox aborted From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 15:18:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF94E16A4CE; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:18:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org (triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.org [192.58.184.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C782243D5E; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:18:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i0NNIHLO060406; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:18:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id i0NNIH8G060405; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:18:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:18:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200401232318.i0NNIH8G060405@triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org> X-Authentication-Warning: triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org: des set sender to Tinderbox using -f Sender: Tinderbox From: Tinderbox To: stable@freebsd.org, i386@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Subject: [releng_4_9 tinderbox] failure on i386/i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:18:29 -0000 TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:17 - tinderbox 2.2 running on triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:17 - starting RELENG_4_9 tinderbox run for i386/i386 TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:17 - cvsupping the source tree TB --- /usr/local/bin/cvsup -1 -g -L 2 /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4_9/i386/i386/supfile TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:17 - TB --- /usr/local/bin/cvsup returned exit code 1 TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:17 - TB --- ERROR: unable to cvsup the source tree TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:17 - tinderbox aborted From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 15:18:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 877EF16A4EA; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:18:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org (triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.org [192.58.184.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D51A43D5D; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:18:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i0NNIILO060415; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:18:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id i0NNIILR060414; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:18:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:18:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200401232318.i0NNIILR060414@triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org> X-Authentication-Warning: triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org: des set sender to Tinderbox using -f Sender: Tinderbox From: Tinderbox To: stable@freebsd.org, i386@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Subject: [releng_4_9 tinderbox] failure on i386/pc98 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:18:30 -0000 TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:17 - tinderbox 2.2 running on triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:17 - starting RELENG_4_9 tinderbox run for i386/pc98 TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:17 - cvsupping the source tree TB --- /usr/local/bin/cvsup -1 -g -L 2 /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4_9/i386/pc98/supfile TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:18 - TB --- /usr/local/bin/cvsup returned exit code 1 TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:18 - TB --- ERROR: unable to cvsup the source tree TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:18 - tinderbox aborted From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 15:18:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 093A416A4F6; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:18:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org (triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.org [192.58.184.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01BF243D48; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:18:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i0NNIILO060424; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:18:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id i0NNIIs5060423; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:18:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:18:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200401232318.i0NNIIs5060423@triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org> X-Authentication-Warning: triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org: des set sender to Tinderbox using -f Sender: Tinderbox From: Tinderbox To: stable@freebsd.org, alpha@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Subject: [releng_4 tinderbox] failure on alpha/alpha X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:18:31 -0000 TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:18 - tinderbox 2.2 running on triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:18 - starting RELENG_4 tinderbox run for alpha/alpha TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:18 - cvsupping the source tree TB --- /usr/local/bin/cvsup -1 -g -L 2 /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/alpha/alpha/supfile TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:18 - TB --- /usr/local/bin/cvsup returned exit code 1 TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:18 - TB --- ERROR: unable to cvsup the source tree TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:18 - tinderbox aborted From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 15:18:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A989F16A52A; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:18:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org (triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.org [192.58.184.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A35C43D60; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:18:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i0NNIJLO060433; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:18:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id i0NNIJ1K060432; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:18:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:18:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200401232318.i0NNIJ1K060432@triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org> X-Authentication-Warning: triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org: des set sender to Tinderbox using -f Sender: Tinderbox From: Tinderbox To: stable@freebsd.org, i386@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Subject: [releng_4 tinderbox] failure on i386/i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:18:32 -0000 TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:18 - tinderbox 2.2 running on triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:18 - starting RELENG_4 tinderbox run for i386/i386 TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:18 - cvsupping the source tree TB --- /usr/local/bin/cvsup -1 -g -L 2 /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/i386/supfile TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:19 - TB --- /usr/local/bin/cvsup returned exit code 1 TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:19 - TB --- ERROR: unable to cvsup the source tree TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:19 - tinderbox aborted From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 15:18:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E6C116A572; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:18:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org (triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.org [192.58.184.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2068043D66; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:18:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i0NNIJLO060442; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:18:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id i0NNIJHL060441; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:18:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:18:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200401232318.i0NNIJHL060441@triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org> X-Authentication-Warning: triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org: des set sender to Tinderbox using -f Sender: Tinderbox From: Tinderbox To: stable@freebsd.org, i386@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Subject: [releng_4 tinderbox] failure on i386/pc98 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:18:35 -0000 TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:19 - tinderbox 2.2 running on triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:19 - starting RELENG_4 tinderbox run for i386/pc98 TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:19 - cvsupping the source tree TB --- /usr/local/bin/cvsup -1 -g -L 2 /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/supfile TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:19 - TB --- /usr/local/bin/cvsup returned exit code 1 TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:19 - TB --- ERROR: unable to cvsup the source tree TB --- 2004-01-23 23:18:19 - tinderbox aborted From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 23:32:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 353BE16A4CE for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:32:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp1.eunet.yu (smtp1.eunet.yu [194.247.192.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2736743D1F for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:32:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kolicz@eunet.yu) Received: from smtp1.EUnet.yu (root@localhost) by smtp1.eunet.yu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i0O7WbhD021849 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 08:32:37 +0100 Received: from kolic.net (P-2.100.EUnet.yu [213.240.2.100]) by smtp1.eunet.yu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0O7Wa7A021810 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 08:32:37 +0100 Received: by kolic.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 27F0242FF; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 08:30:47 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 08:30:47 +0100 From: Zoran Kolic To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040124073047.GA667@kolic.net> References: <20040123190426.A716A16A4D1@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040123190426.A716A16A4D1@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: SYSERR... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 07:32:41 -0000 > I rm all of them before doing make Don't you have at least "freebsd.mc" and one more "freebsd.submit.mc"? Whatever name is, you could configure it at your wish. As I remember, freebsd makes "make" of "cf" more user friendly than any other system. Probably, the best would be to start from the beginning. Or "rm" means you have it as back-up? ZK From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 24 00:49:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB1D16A4CE for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 00:49:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from access.inet.co.th (access.inet.co.th [203.151.127.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDCBE43D48 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 00:49:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pirat@access.inet.co.th) Received: from firak.thai-aec.org (TruPPPv92-225-33.inet.co.th [203.151.225.33]) by access.inet.co.th (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id i0O8nhG2008469; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 15:49:46 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from pirat@access.inet.co.th) Received: from firak.thai-aec.org (localhost.thai-aec.org [127.0.0.1]) by firak.thai-aec.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0O8pDMd013635; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 15:51:13 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from pirat@access.inet.co.th) Received: (from pirat@localhost) by firak.thai-aec.org (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i0O8p9AW013634; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 15:51:09 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from pirat@access.inet.co.th) X-Authentication-Warning: firak.thai-aec.org: pirat set sender to pirat@access.inet.co.th using -f Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 15:51:09 +0700 From: pirat To: Zoran Kolic Message-ID: <20040124085109.GA2374@thai-aec.org> References: <20040123190426.A716A16A4D1@hub.freebsd.org> <20040124073047.GA667@kolic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=tis-620 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040124073047.GA667@kolic.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD firak.thai-aec.org 4.9-STABLE FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE www-home-page: http://www.thai-aec.org www-FreeBSD-page: http://www.thai.net/makham cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SYSERR... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 08:49:57 -0000 hi sirs, On Saturday, 24 January 2004 at 8:30:47 +0100, Zoran Kolic wrote: > Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 08:30:47 +0100 > From: Zoran Kolic > To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: SYSERR... > > > I rm all of them before doing make > > Don't you have at least > "freebsd.mc" and one > more "freebsd.submit.mc"? > Whatever name is, you > could configure it at > your wish. As I remember, > freebsd makes "make" of "cf" > more user friendly than > any other system. Probably, > the best would be to > start from the beginning. > Or "rm" means you have it as > back-up? > i mean rm `hostname`.mc but not freebsd.mc or any of freebsd stuff thanks indeed. > ZK -- with best regards, psr http://www.thai-aec.org http://www.thai.net/makham From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 24 11:01:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8351716A4CE for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 11:01:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from inlander.singcat.com (69-56-253-162.theplanet.com [69.56.253.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B55E43D1F for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 11:01:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from netmax@mojokerto.org) Received: from dnetcafe.com ([203.130.214.52] helo=billing) by inlander.singcat.com with asmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AkT1k-00027F-Jd for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2004 02:01:05 +0700 From: "Imam Akhadi" To: Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 03:20:19 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <20040122231316.GA75352@gicco.homeip.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 thread-index: AcPhPWKZ7ULPJ0TpS5KsYFI2mHSYEQBb+RvA Message-Id: X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - inlander.singcat.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - mojokerto.org Subject: Can't Install FreeBSD 5.2 Release X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 19:01:11 -0000 I am using Xeon Dual Proc with SCSI Adaptec OnBoard AIC7xxx, I found error first time to install. Kernel FreeSCB list 1,7,8,10,16,9 Untagged Q(2):17 Bla blab la <<<<<<<<<< Dump Card State End >>>>>>>>>> Can anyone help me? From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 24 11:21:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FBAD16A4CE for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 11:21:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from imhotep.yuckfou.org (cust.89.117.adsl.cistron.nl [195.64.89.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 572A243D1F for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 11:21:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nivo@yuckfou.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imhotep.yuckfou.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE112F9 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 20:25:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from imhotep.yuckfou.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (imhotep.yuckfou.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 81122-05 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 20:25:36 +0100 (CET) Received: by imhotep.yuckfou.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BD1AB2F8; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 20:25:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from yuckfou.org (turbata-xp [192.168.2.236]) by localhost.yuckfou.org (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 20:25:33 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4012C5CD.6060801@yuckfou.org> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 20:21:49 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030912 Thunderbird/0.3a X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Nils Vogels X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.0 (Cannonade) X-TMDA-Fingerprint: fqnZDibabrbAQTYdQaCXPfoH5q8 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at yuckfou.org Subject: Re: Can't Install FreeBSD 5.2 Release X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 19:21:56 -0000 Imam Akhadi wrote: >I am using Xeon Dual Proc with SCSI Adaptec OnBoard AIC7xxx, I found error >first time to install. > >Kernel FreeSCB list 1,7,8,10,16,9 >Untagged Q(2):17 >Bla blab la > ><<<<<<<<<< Dump Card State End >>>>>>>>>> > >Can anyone help me? > > Not with that amount of blah blah blah in your message I'm afraid. Please be more specific, what are you doing, which options, which error messages etc, we're not psychic here (but would like to be from time to time! :) ) -- Simple guidelines to happiness: Work like you don't need the money, love like your heart has never been broken and dance like no one can see you. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 24 12:32:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A3616A4CE for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 12:32:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from lakemtao08.cox.net (lakemtao08.cox.net [68.1.17.113]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0672643D48 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 12:32:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kitbsdlists@HotPOP.com) Received: from vixen42 ([68.109.49.234]) by lakemtao08.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with SMTP id <20040124203252.PWV2412.lakemtao08.cox.net@vixen42> for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 15:32:52 -0500 Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:31:31 -0600 From: Vulpes Velox To: stable@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20040124143131.05561828@vixen42.> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.8claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: wierdness with NIS X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 20:32:58 -0000 I just set up NIS on my lan, but can't get any of the client machines to accept logins using it. On the client machine... /usr/home is exported using NFS. +::::::::: is in master.passwd. +:*:: is in group. I can manage to log in using any user exported by NIS or su to them. The wierd part is that I have no probs getting ypcat and yppasswd to work... Any ideas? btw all machines in question are running 4stable. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 24 13:28:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C872E16A4CE for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:28:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E68F43D4C for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:28:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mvh@ix.netcom.com) Received: from lsanca1-ar6-4-62-201-246.lsanca1.elnk.dsl.genuity.net ([4.62.201.246] helo=netcom1.netcom.com) by swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AkVK3-00010B-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:28:07 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by netcom1.netcom.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4633D55B2 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:28:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from netcom1.netcom.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (netcom1.netcom.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 72424-01 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:28:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by netcom1.netcom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8E3E955B7; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:28:05 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Harding To: stable@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20040124212805.8E3E955B7@netcom1.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:28:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ix.netcom.com Subject: RELENG_4 -> RELENG_4_9 sidegrade problem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 21:28:15 -0000 I decided to drop back to 4.9 after running 4-STABLE for a while, and, after doing that, I removed the gettext port, and then rebuilt all of gnome and kde. The weird thing is that samba-devel would not build - it failed in different places with a signal 10. Jan 23 20:07:09 netcom1 /kernel: pid 49412 (cc1), uid 0: exited on signal 10 Jan 23 20:11:48 netcom1 /kernel: pid 64708 (cc1), uid 0: exited on signal 10 Jan 23 20:19:19 netcom1 /kernel: pid 78970 (cc1), uid 0: exited on signal 10 Jan 23 20:23:42 netcom1 /kernel: pid 92596 (cc1), uid 0: exited on signal 10 Jan 23 20:38:05 netcom1 /kernel: pid 9992 (cc1), uid 0: exited on signal 10 This system has been stable for months, and after going back to RELENG_4 samba built no problem. Any problem with either - 4.9 or - "sidegrading" like this? It's possible that there are some leftover files, of course, that caused this, but I don't know what they would be. I had signal 10 problems last year around June, and mouse problems after that, but I think they were BIOS related and I haven't seen either for months. Anyone have any clues/ideas? I am using the cursed VIA/AMD combo, which took a lot of BIOS tweaking to get working well, but it seems stable once dialed in. - Mike H. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 24 13:42:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7013C16A4CE for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:42:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (u46n208.hfx.eastlink.ca [24.222.46.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 304F543D53 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:42:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1F5943789F; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 17:38:10 -0400 (AST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1495C344A9; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 17:38:10 -0400 (AST) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 17:38:10 -0400 (AST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040124172849.L96629@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: mab@red-bean.com Subject: MultiThreaded AOLServer under FreeBSD 4.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 21:42:19 -0000 The OS is a bit old right now, from Sept 20th -STABLE sources, but ... I'm getting a weird circumstance with clients running AOLServer and OpenACS 3.2.5 ... after a few days of running, the process no longer responds to HTTP requests, and the logs fill up with a whack of 'out of file descriptor' messages ... limit on the machine shows I have "descriptors 11095" available ... and using lsof on one of the processes that as restarted on Thursday shows that ~424 files opened, out of which there are 388 KQUEUE: nsd8x 65198 nobody 46u KQUEUE 0x92599b00 count=0, state=0 nsd8x 65198 nobody 47u KQUEUE 0x915d4400 count=0, state=0 nsd8x 65198 nobody 48u KQUEUE 0x8fb8b100 count=0, state=0 Checking another one that has been running longer: mars# lsof -p 98527 | wc -l 1046 mars# lsof -p 98527 | grep KQUEUE | wc -l 1009 What are these KQUEUE files that are open? Is there a 'leak' maybe, where they aren't being closed properly? Checking another server, with -STABLE current to Jan 6th, there still shows >90% of files opened being these KQUEUEs: neptune# lsof -p 84915 | wc -l 456 neptune# lsof -p 84915 | grep KQUEUE | wc -l 420 Thoughts? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 24 13:44:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4867C16A4CE for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:44:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net (falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AF3543D31 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:44:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mvh@ix.netcom.com) Received: from lsanca1-ar6-4-62-201-246.lsanca1.elnk.dsl.genuity.net ([4.62.201.246] helo=netcom1.netcom.com) by falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AkVaB-0000eo-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:44:48 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by netcom1.netcom.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BFBA55B5 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:44:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from netcom1.netcom.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (netcom1.netcom.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 72424-03; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:44:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by netcom1.netcom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0DD0055B3; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:44:45 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Harding To: mvh@ix.netcom.com In-reply-to: <20040124212805.8E3E955B7@netcom1.netcom.com> (message from Mike Harding on Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:28:05 -0800 (PST)) References: <20040124212805.8E3E955B7@netcom1.netcom.com> Message-Id: <20040124214445.0DD0055B3@netcom1.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:44:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ix.netcom.com cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_4 -> RELENG_4_9 sidegrade problem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 21:44:49 -0000 Actually, I was having problems around June 2003 (same problem, signal 10 in cc1) so it's possible that there is code around this date in -stable that got into 4.9 and was later fixed. I'll just keep running RELENG_4 for now, it seems rock-solid. I am just running a few jails now so I would rather have a more "stable" system, release-wise. - Mike H. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 24 13:48:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1717C16A4CE for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:48:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from rsmba.biz (evrtwa1-ar19-4-41-158-208.evrtwa1.dsl-verizon.net [4.41.158.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 835AB43D3F for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:47:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rschi@rsmba.biz) Received: (qmail 636 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2004 21:47:36 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO foghorn.rsmba.biz) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Jan 2004 21:47:36 -0000 Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:47:35 -0800 From: Richard Schilling To: stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040124214735.GE548@foghorn.rsmba.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Balsa 1.4.4 Lines: 21 cc: wine-devel@winehq.com Subject: New Open Source License: Single Supplier Open Source License X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 21:48:01 -0000 I would like to present to you all a new Open Source software license I've written up. It's called the Single Supplier Open Source License. I will be distributing software under this license as well as the traditional Open Source licenses found at opensource.org. You can see a copy of the license and its associated FAQ at http://www.rsmba.biz/licenses . A link on the homepage at rsmba.biz will also direct you there. I will also be working directly with opensource.org to address any issues they have with the license wording. The license has the following features: # Users have freely available access to source code, documentation just like the GPL. # Users may use, modify, and install the software on as many computers as they want within their organization. # Any changes made by the user and others get contributed back into the base product # The developer's right to control who provides services using the product is protected. # The developer's right to control who can distribute the software is protected. # The developer has complete control over the product forking. # The developer and all contributors retain copyright of their individual works. # The software is always downloaded from the same place by the end user even if it's used as part of a larger product, protecting the quality of the software. Please feel free to contact me on or off list about this announcement. Richard Schilling From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 24 14:34:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC9CC16A4CE for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:34:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from lakemtao08.cox.net (lakemtao08.cox.net [68.1.17.113]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9511343D31 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:34:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kitbsdlists@HotPOP.com) Received: from vixen42 ([68.109.49.234]) by lakemtao08.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with SMTP id <20040124223416.BOHO2412.lakemtao08.cox.net@vixen42>; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 17:34:16 -0500 Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 16:32:55 -0600 From: Vulpes Velox To: Vulpes Velox Message-Id: <20040124163255.4a516a7f@vixen42.> In-Reply-To: <20040124143131.05561828@vixen42.> References: <20040124143131.05561828@vixen42.> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.8claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wierdness with NIS X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:34:20 -0000 On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:31:31 -0600 Vulpes Velox wrote: > I just set up NIS on my lan, but can't get any of the client > machines to accept logins using it. > > On the client machine... /usr/home is exported using NFS. +::::::::: > is in master.passwd. +:*:: is in group. > > I can manage to log in using any user exported by NIS or su to them. > The wierd part is that I have no probs getting ypcat and yppasswd to > work... > > > Any ideas? > > btw all machines in question are running 4stable. Solved it... needed to do a pwd_mkdb master.passwd From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 24 17:25:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB57816A4CF for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 17:25:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from out003.verizon.net (out003pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C94543D41 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 17:25:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com ([68.161.129.47]) by out003.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20040125012503.YBND24306.out003.verizon.net@mac.com>; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 19:25:03 -0600 Message-ID: <40131AEA.2000804@mac.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 20:24:58 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Schilling References: <20040124214735.GE548@foghorn.rsmba.biz> In-Reply-To: <20040124214735.GE548@foghorn.rsmba.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out003.verizon.net from [68.161.129.47] at Sat, 24 Jan 2004 19:25:03 -0600 cc: wine-devel@winehq.com cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New Open Source License: Single Supplier Open Source License X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 01:25:06 -0000 Richard Schilling wrote: > I would like to present to you all a new Open Source software license I've written up. [ ... ] One the face of it, Section III, "Distribution Restrictions and Obligations." of your license fails to comply with OSD #1 & 2: "1. Free Redistribution The license shall not restrict any party from selling or giving away the software as a component of an aggregate software distribution containing programs from several different sources. The license shall not require a royalty or other fee for such sale. 2. Source Code The program must include source code, and must allow distribution in source code as well as compiled form...." See http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 24 17:46:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C12D16A4CE for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 17:46:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E9D443D1D for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 17:46:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E790A40822; Sun, 25 Jan 2004 02:45:50 +0100 (CET) From: Cordula's Web To: rschi@rsmba.biz In-reply-to: <20040124214735.GE548@foghorn.rsmba.biz> (message from Richard Schilling on Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:47:35 -0800) X-Mailer: Emacs-21.3.1/FreeBSD-4.9-STABLE References: <20040124214735.GE548@foghorn.rsmba.biz> Message-Id: <20040125014550.E790A40822@fw.farid-hajji.net> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 02:45:50 +0100 (CET) cc: wine-devel@winehq.com cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New Open Source License: Single Supplier Open Source License X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: cpghost@cordula.ws List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 01:46:31 -0000 [This is OT for stable@ and wine-devel@, but let's contribute anyway...] > # Users have freely available access to source code, documentation just like the GPL. Access to source coce, documentation etc... is also possible under the BSD license. Under the [L]GPL, it is mandatory. > # Users may use, modify, and install the software on as many computers as they want within their organization. Right. The number of computers should never matter. > # Any changes made by the user and others get contributed back into the base product This is the main difference between BSD and GPL, and you're using the GPL model here. This is exacly what would prevent commercial vendors from adopting this license. But, okay. > # The developer's right to control who provides services using the product is protected. That's a tough one. As long as the developer is _actively_ maintaining a product, that seems reasonable. But it happens frequently, that many developers loose interest in supporting a product. Locking the community out would be counter-productive, to say the least. > # The developer's right to control who can distribute the software is protected. That's even uglier. Neighter the GPL nor the BSD license would be _that_ restrictive. And see below, in case the developer drops maintenance. > # The developer has complete control over the product forking. Same as above. > # The developer and all contributors retain copyright of their individual works. That is already the case with [L]GPL and BSD licenses. What's new here? > # The software is always downloaded from the same place by the end user even if it's used as part of a larger product, protecting the quality of the software. See above. I'd suggest to add a clause of mandatory maintainership, that would void the exclusive right of the developer/author to maintain and distribute his/her work, if the originator fails to update his/her product after some (yet-to-be-specified) time. Orphaned products could then automatically fall under the BSD license (or GPL, or anything less restrictive as what you're suggesting). > Please feel free to contact me on or off list about this announcement. What are you trying to achieve with this, which can't already be achieved through BSD or [L]GPL licensing schemes? > Richard Schilling -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 24 17:51:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF63916A4CE for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 17:51:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp01.syd.iprimus.net.au (smtp01.syd.iprimus.net.au [210.50.30.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A9EB43D2F for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 17:51:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tim@robbins.dropbear.id.au) Received: from robbins.dropbear.id.au (210.50.45.116) by smtp01.syd.iprimus.net.au (7.0.024) id 400C4DF4001FE4EC; Sun, 25 Jan 2004 12:52:40 +1100 Received: by robbins.dropbear.id.au (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D2BEB41A5; Sun, 25 Jan 2004 12:51:49 +1100 (EST) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 12:51:49 +1100 From: Tim Robbins To: "Marc G. Fournier" Message-ID: <20040125015149.GA2429@cat.robbins.dropbear.id.au> References: <20040124172849.L96629@ganymede.hub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040124172849.L96629@ganymede.hub.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: mab@red-bean.com cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MultiThreaded AOLServer under FreeBSD 4.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 01:51:37 -0000 On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 05:38:10PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > The OS is a bit old right now, from Sept 20th -STABLE sources, but ... > > I'm getting a weird circumstance with clients running AOLServer and > OpenACS 3.2.5 ... after a few days of running, the process no longer > responds to HTTP requests, and the logs fill up with a whack of 'out of > file descriptor' messages ... > > limit on the machine shows I have "descriptors 11095" available ... > and using lsof on one of the processes that as restarted on Thursday shows > that ~424 files opened, out of which there are 388 KQUEUE: [...] Could be this bug: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=58687 Tim From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 24 19:14:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3763216A4CE for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 19:14:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cybcon.com (mail.cybcon.com [216.190.188.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7207D43D1D for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 19:14:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wwoods@cybcon.com) Received: from yogi.cybcon.com (IDENT:wwoods@yogi.cybcon.com [216.190.188.13]) by mail.cybcon.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i0P3ETS15424; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 19:14:29 -0800 Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 19:14:29 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Woods To: "Cordula's Web" In-Reply-To: <20040125014550.E790A40822@fw.farid-hajji.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-CyberConnectics-MailScanner2-Information: Spam/Virus Scanned at CyberConnectics X-CyberConnectics-MailScanner2: Found to be clean X-CyberConnectics-MailScanner2-SpamCheck: cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New Open Source License: Single Supplier Open Source License X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 03:14:46 -0000 On Sun, 25 Jan 2004, Cordula's Web wrote: And this has what do do with FreeBSD Stable ? > [This is OT for stable@ and wine-devel@, but let's contribute anyway...] > > > # Users have freely available access to source code, documentation just like the GPL. > > Access to source coce, documentation etc... is also possible under the > BSD license. Under the [L]GPL, it is mandatory. > > > # Users may use, modify, and install the software on as many computers as they want within their organization. > > Right. The number of computers should never matter. > > > # Any changes made by the user and others get contributed back into the base product > > This is the main difference between BSD and GPL, and you're using > the GPL model here. This is exacly what would prevent commercial > vendors from adopting this license. But, okay. > > > # The developer's right to control who provides services using the product is protected. > > That's a tough one. As long as the developer is _actively_ maintaining > a product, that seems reasonable. But it happens frequently, that many > developers loose interest in supporting a product. Locking the community > out would be counter-productive, to say the least. > > > # The developer's right to control who can distribute the software is protected. > > That's even uglier. Neighter the GPL nor the BSD license would be _that_ > restrictive. And see below, in case the developer drops maintenance. > > > # The developer has complete control over the product forking. > > Same as above. > > > # The developer and all contributors retain copyright of their individual works. > > That is already the case with [L]GPL and BSD licenses. What's new here? > > > # The software is always downloaded from the same place by the end user even if it's used as part of a larger product, protecting the quality of the software. > > See above. > > I'd suggest to add a clause of mandatory maintainership, that would > void the exclusive right of the developer/author to maintain and > distribute his/her work, if the originator fails to update his/her > product after some (yet-to-be-specified) time. Orphaned products could > then automatically fall under the BSD license (or GPL, or anything > less restrictive as what you're suggesting). > > > Please feel free to contact me on or off list about this announcement. > > What are you trying to achieve with this, which can't already be > achieved through BSD or [L]GPL licensing schemes? > > > Richard Schilling > > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 24 23:00:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6736A16A4CE for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 23:00:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.praemunio.com (mail.praemunio.com [66.179.47.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EB82343D2D for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 23:00:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from frank@knobbe.us) Received: from localhost (HELO mail.knobbe.us) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Jan 2004 01:00:13 -0600 Received: from localhost (HELO ??) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Jan 2004 01:00:11 -0600 From: Frank Knobbe To: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200401221437.28629.skquinn@xevious.kicks-ass.net> References: <20040122175800.UCGD116070.fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@win2000> <20040122181000.GK51708@sirius.firepipe.net> <200401221250.34134.craig@meoqu.gank.org> <200401221437.28629.skquinn@xevious.kicks-ass.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-gQG2Gd7I8no31Kwwopk8" Message-Id: <1075014010.789.21.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 01:00:11 -0600 Subject: Re: cvsup2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 07:00:16 -0000 --=-gQG2Gd7I8no31Kwwopk8 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 14:37, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > On Thursday 2004 January 22 12:50, Craig Boston wrote: > > On Thursday 22 January 2004 12:10 pm, Will Andrews wrote: > > > So use another one? Like maybe cvsup12.freebsd.org? :) > > > > Sssshhh!!! Don't tell anybody about cvsup12... > > I like it being really really _FAST_ ;-) >=20 > I personally use cvsup11 now. I think I switched several times after=20 > cvsup2 started reaching capacity some months ago. This may be a silly question, but why doesn't cvsup.freebsd.org list all of the others in a round-robin setup? That way people can still use their preferred servers directly (e.g. cvsup11.), yet load can be distributed amongst all of them by just using cvsup.freebsd.org. 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