From owner-freebsd-firewire@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 20:36:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B833016A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:36:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from meisai.numachi.com (meisai.numachi.com [198.175.254.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ECEA843D3F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:36:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reichert@numachi.com) Received: (qmail 34355 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2005 20:36:07 -0000 Received: from natto.numachi.com (198.175.254.216) by meisai.numachi.com with SMTP; 10 Jan 2005 20:36:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 97272 invoked by uid 1001); 10 Jan 2005 20:36:07 -0000 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:36:07 -0500 From: Brian Reichert To: freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050110203607.GC96401@numachi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: firewire not probing? X-BeenThere: freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Firewire support in FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:36:08 -0000 [I had asked this on hackers- , and it was suggested that I post here, so here goes...] I did some googling on these symtptoms, but couldn't find a good hit. Under FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE, I have a firewire card, that the kernel finds, then ignores. fwohci0: irq 9 at device 0.0 on pci2 fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=1) fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4. fwohci0: EUI64 08:00:28:64:10:00:12:eb fwohci0: invalid speed 7 (fixed to 3). fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S800, 3 ports. fwohci0: Link S800, max_rec 4096 bytes. firewire0: on fwohci0 fwe0: on firewire0 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 0a:00:28:00:12:eb fwe0: Ethernet address: 0a:00:28:00:12:eb fwe0: if_start running deferred for Giant sbp0: on firewire0 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode fwohci0: SID Error fwohci0: unrecoverable error fwohci0: phy int But, ifconfig doesn't reveal fwe0, pciconf doesn't reveal the card, and plugging in a firewire device doesn't plumb a SCSI device. I can't infer from the dmesg output what, per se, is wrong. None of those trailing diagnostic messages are, unto themselves, a showstopper (nread as I can tell). Does anyone have a suggestion as to how I can move forward on this? I can make available a full dmesg, if that would help anyone... -- Brian Reichert 37 Crystal Ave. #303 Daytime number: (603) 434-6842 Derry NH 03038-1713 USA BSD admin/developer at large ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Brian Reichert 37 Crystal Ave. #303 Daytime number: (603) 434-6842 Derry NH 03038-1713 USA BSD admin/developer at large From owner-freebsd-firewire@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 05:52:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A28216A4CE; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:52:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from spatula.dreamhost.com (spatula.dreamhost.com [66.33.205.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4142F43D2D; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:52:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@tntluoma.com) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (user-33qt9b7.dialup.mindspring.com [199.174.165.103]) by spatula.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D96717D021; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:51:59 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <1050E60D-645E-11D9-87A5-000D93AD26C8@tntluoma.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Timothy Luoma Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:51:54 -0500 To: FreeBSD-Questions Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org Subject: How dangerous is HFS+ in FreeBSD 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Firewire support in FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:52:01 -0000 I have an external 60GB Firewire drive currently (stupidly) formatted in HFS+ (Mac OS X "Extended"). I'd like to get all the files off of the drive and onto my FreeBSD machine (which has firewire card installed, although I've yet to try and tackle mounting it). http://people.freebsd.org/~yar/hfs/ was the place to turn, but there are several very ominous warnings about using it for important data. I was curious as to whether this was just one of those "cover your behind" disclaimers or a "really, don't use this for anything important" disclaimers. TjL From owner-freebsd-firewire@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 14:07:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FAB416A4CE; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:07:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from otter3.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C186443D2F; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:07:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from [10.177.171.220] (neutrino.centtech.com [10.177.171.220]) by otter3.centtech.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id j0CE76OJ056191; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:07:06 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Message-ID: <41E52F04.4030001@centtech.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:07:00 -0600 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041110 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Timothy Luoma References: <1050E60D-645E-11D9-87A5-000D93AD26C8@tntluoma.com> In-Reply-To: <1050E60D-645E-11D9-87A5-000D93AD26C8@tntluoma.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org cc: FreeBSD-Questions Questions Subject: Re: How dangerous is HFS+ in FreeBSD 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Firewire support in FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:07:09 -0000 Timothy Luoma wrote: > > I have an external 60GB Firewire drive currently (stupidly) formatted in > HFS+ (Mac OS X "Extended"). I'd like to get all the files off of the > drive and onto my FreeBSD machine (which has firewire card installed, > although I've yet to try and tackle mounting it). > > http://people.freebsd.org/~yar/hfs/ was the place to turn, but there are > several very ominous warnings about using it for important data. I was > curious as to whether this was just one of those "cover your behind" > disclaimers or a "really, don't use this for anything important" > disclaimers. If you are simply recovering your mp3's^H^H^H^H^Hdata, then just mount it read only, copy data, unmount.. After the copy, who cares if it trashes it? Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Sr. Systems Administrator Centaur Technology I have seen the future and it is just like the present, only longer. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-firewire@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 15:23:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B0D16A4CE; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:23:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from knife.dreamhost.com (knife.dreamhost.com [66.33.219.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2007D43D41; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:23:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@tntluoma.com) Received: from [192.168.1.203] (adsl-68-76-44-196.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net [68.76.44.196]) by knife.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B5B4E4C04; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 07:23:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <41E52F04.4030001@centtech.com> References: <1050E60D-645E-11D9-87A5-000D93AD26C8@tntluoma.com> <41E52F04.4030001@centtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Timothy Luoma Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:23:02 -0500 To: Eric Anderson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org cc: FreeBSD-Questions Questions Subject: Re: How dangerous is HFS+ in FreeBSD 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Firewire support in FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:23:07 -0000 On Jan 12, 2005, at 9:07 AM, Eric Anderson wrote: > If you are simply recovering your mp3's^H^H^H^H^Hdata, Heh... actually my iPod is FAT32 because I had it with Windows before I had a Mac. > then just mount it read only, copy data, unmount.. After the copy, who > cares if it trashes it? yeah, read only is a good idea. I decided that rather than messing with HFS+ in FreeBSD (when I'll likely never use it again), I would just enable FTP on FreeBSD and upload the files. It'll take a little longer to do the copy, but I can do it right now and work on other things while it is running, rather than having to learn how to enable HFS+ (which would be good to know, but I've got a lot of other things pressing at the moment, so saving a bit of time today is good). I guess the next question is figuring out what filesystem to use on the drive once all the data I want/need is off of it. TjL From owner-freebsd-firewire@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 20:32:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E7816A4CE; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:32:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.mi.celestial.com (dagney.celestial.com [192.136.111.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9D1E43D2D; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:32:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bill@celestial.com) Received: by mail.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id DE55011E8C8; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:32:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:32:40 -0800 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-Questions Questions Message-ID: <20050112203240.GA30500@alexis.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-Questions Questions References: <1050E60D-645E-11D9-87A5-000D93AD26C8@tntluoma.com> <41E52F04.4030001@centtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: How dangerous is HFS+ in FreeBSD 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: Firewire support in FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:32:42 -0000 On Wed, Jan 12, 2005, Timothy Luoma wrote: > >On Jan 12, 2005, at 9:07 AM, Eric Anderson wrote: > >>If you are simply recovering your mp3's^H^H^H^H^Hdata, > >Heh... actually my iPod is FAT32 because I had it with Windows before I >had a Mac. > >>then just mount it read only, copy data, unmount.. After the copy, who >>cares if it trashes it? > >yeah, read only is a good idea. > >I decided that rather than messing with HFS+ in FreeBSD (when I'll >likely never use it again), I would just enable FTP on FreeBSD and >upload the files. It'll take a little longer to do the copy, but I can >do it right now and work on other things while it is running, rather >than having to learn how to enable HFS+ (which would be good to know, >but I've got a lot of other things pressing at the moment, so saving a >bit of time today is good). I was going to suggest ftp, rsync, scp, or some other network transfer. >I guess the next question is figuring out what filesystem to use on the >drive once all the data I want/need is off of it. The external firewire drives on all our Macs, and at least half the available space on their internal hard drives is partitioned with UFS file systems. Originally I did this to avoid the OS X case insensitivity which bit me in the butt within an hour of my first porting efforts. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Systems, Inc. UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ Memoirs -- Bill Clinton is getting $12 million for his memoirs, and his wife Hillary got $8 million for hers. That's $20 million for memories from two people who for eight years repeatedly testified they couldn't remember anything.