From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 00:00:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D017116A420 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 00:00:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from edwin@mavetju.org) Received: from mail3out.barnet.com.au (mail3out.barnet.com.au [202.83.176.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DD9643D46 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 00:00:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from edwin@mavetju.org) Received: by mail3out.barnet.com.au (Postfix, from userid 27) id D0AB9877CB1; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 10:00:02 +1000 (EST) X-Viruscan-Id: <4351980200000FEFAE3CA5@BarNet> Received: from mail3-auth.barnet.com.au (mail3.barnet.com.au [202.83.176.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.barnet.com.au", Issuer "BarNet Root Certificate Authority" (verified OK)) by mail3.barnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92162877CAD; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 10:00:02 +1000 (EST) Received: from k7.mavetju (edwin-3.int.barnet.com.au [10.10.12.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "edwin.adsl.barnet.com.au", Issuer "BarNet Root Certificate Authority" (not verified)) by mail3-auth.barnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id B938F877CA9; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 10:00:01 +1000 (EST) Received: by k7.mavetju (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8BA38611E; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 10:00:00 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 10:00:00 +1000 From: Edwin Groothuis To: Mike Brown Message-ID: <20051016000000.GH1278@k7.mavetju> References: <200510152250.j9FMo4D5001378@chilled.skew.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200510152250.j9FMo4D5001378@chilled.skew.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: jharris@widomaker.com, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bzip2 port still out of date X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 00:00:04 -0000 On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 04:50:04PM -0600, Mike Brown wrote: > archivers/bzip2 seems to still be languishing at 1.0.3, despite the suggestion at > http://www.freebsd.org/ports/portaudit/197f444f-e8ef-11d9-b875-0001020eed82.html > that there was a 1.0.3_1 due in late June, when the vulnerabilities were reported. > > Since the FreeBSD 4.x base system does not come with bzgrep, I've been using > the bzip2 port. It would be nice to be able to upgrade my installation so I > can stop getting security warnings. Is there a new revision of the port in the > works? > > (Actually, on my system, I employed a temporary workaround:) > > cd /usr/ports/archivers/bzip2 > make deinstall > make DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=yes > cd work/bzip2-1.0.3 > chmod a+rx bzgrep bzdiff bzmore > cp -p bzgrep bzdiff bzmore /usr/local/bin > gzip -c9 bzgrep.1 > /usr/local/man/man1/bzgrep.1.gz > gzip -c9 bzdiff.1 > /usr/local/man/man1/bzdiff.1.gz > gzip -c9 bzmore.1 > /usr/local/man/man1/bzmore.1.gz > > (bzgrep, bzdiff, and bzmore are shell scripts in the port) I have gone through the patches noted in the ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/CERT/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-05:14.bzip2.asc and compared them with the current state of 1.0.3. There was only something missing in bzip2.c. If the maintainer (hi jharris!) is okay with it I will commit the following patch: Index: Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/pcvs/ports/archivers/bzip2/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.40 diff -u -r1.40 Makefile --- Makefile 20 Jul 2005 07:50:43 -0000 1.40 +++ Makefile 15 Oct 2005 23:56:31 -0000 @@ -8,6 +8,7 @@ PORTNAME= bzip2 PORTVERSION= 1.0.3 +PORTREVISION= 1 CATEGORIES= archivers MASTER_SITES= http://www.bzip.org/${PORTVERSION}/ Index: files/patch-bzip2.c =================================================================== RCS file: files/patch-bzip2.c diff -N files/patch-bzip2.c --- /dev/null 1 Jan 1970 00:00:00 -0000 +++ files/patch-bzip2.c 15 Oct 2005 23:56:31 -0000 @@ -0,0 +1,92 @@ +--- bzip2.c.orig Wed Feb 16 03:25:35 2005 ++++ bzip2.c Sun Oct 16 09:47:40 2005 +@@ -312,6 +312,7 @@ + + static void copyFileName ( Char*, Char* ); + static void* myMalloc ( Int32 ); ++static int applySavedFileAttrToOutputFile ( int fd ); + + + +@@ -457,6 +458,10 @@ + ret = fflush ( zStream ); + if (ret == EOF) goto errhandler_io; + if (zStream != stdout) { ++ int fd = fileno ( zStream ); ++ if (fd < 0) goto errhandler_io; ++ ret = applySavedFileAttrToOutputFile ( fd ); ++ if (ret != 0) goto errhandler_io; + ret = fclose ( zStream ); + outputHandleJustInCase = NULL; + if (ret == EOF) goto errhandler_io; +@@ -569,6 +574,12 @@ + + closeok: + if (ferror(zStream)) goto errhandler_io; ++ if ( stream != stdout) { ++ int fd = fileno ( stream ); ++ if (fd < 0) goto errhandler_io; ++ ret = applySavedFileAttrToOutputFile ( fd ); ++ if (ret != 0) goto errhandler_io; ++ } + ret = fclose ( zStream ); + if (ret == EOF) goto errhandler_io; + +@@ -1129,7 +1140,7 @@ + + + static +-void applySavedMetaInfoToOutputFile ( Char *dstName ) ++void applySavedTimeInfoToOutputFile ( Char *dstName ) + { + # if BZ_UNIX + IntNative retVal; +@@ -1138,16 +1149,26 @@ + uTimBuf.actime = fileMetaInfo.st_atime; + uTimBuf.modtime = fileMetaInfo.st_mtime; + +- retVal = chmod ( dstName, fileMetaInfo.st_mode ); +- ERROR_IF_NOT_ZERO ( retVal ); +- + retVal = utime ( dstName, &uTimBuf ); + ERROR_IF_NOT_ZERO ( retVal ); ++# endif ++} ++ ++static ++int applySavedFileAttrToOutputFile ( int fd ) ++{ ++# if BZ_UNIX ++ IntNative retVal; ++ ++ retVal = fchmod ( fd, fileMetaInfo.st_mode ); ++ if (retVal != 0) ++ return retVal; + +- retVal = chown ( dstName, fileMetaInfo.st_uid, fileMetaInfo.st_gid ); ++ (void) fchown ( fd, fileMetaInfo.st_uid, fileMetaInfo.st_gid ); + /* chown() will in many cases return with EPERM, which can + be safely ignored. + */ ++ return 0; + # endif + } + +@@ -1370,7 +1391,7 @@ + + /*--- If there was an I/O error, we won't get here. ---*/ + if ( srcMode == SM_F2F ) { +- applySavedMetaInfoToOutputFile ( outName ); ++ applySavedTimeInfoToOutputFile ( outName ); + deleteOutputOnInterrupt = False; + if ( !keepInputFiles ) { + IntNative retVal = remove ( inName ); +@@ -1548,7 +1569,7 @@ + /*--- If there was an I/O error, we won't get here. ---*/ + if ( magicNumberOK ) { + if ( srcMode == SM_F2F ) { +- applySavedMetaInfoToOutputFile ( outName ); ++ applySavedTimeInfoToOutputFile ( outName ); + deleteOutputOnInterrupt = False; + if ( !keepInputFiles ) { + IntNative retVal = remove ( inName ); Edwin -- Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.mavetju.org edwin@mavetju.org | Weblog: http://weblog.barnet.com.au/edwin/ From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 01:30:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7BF16A41F for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 01:30:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from polandj@garble.org) Received: from mail.garble.org (kmart.garble.org [216.29.181.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6132043D46 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 01:30:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from polandj@garble.org) Received: by mail.garble.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 452B4EA; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 21:30:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.garble.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3829DE6 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 21:30:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 21:30:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Jonathan Poland To: ports@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Subject: The php5 port... X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 01:30:46 -0000 Hi, I've tried googling and reading the docs, but I can't seem to figure out how to get the php port to compile with other options. I want several of the options in the lang/php5 directory turned on (i.e. gd, exif, pcre, etc). The Makefile looks for a PHP_MODNAME variable, which is gleaned from the PKGNAMESUFFIX variable. I see I COULD make my own package with a proper suffix, but that'll only get me one of the many options that I want enabled. What's the trick? Thanks - JP From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 03:31:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F9816A41F for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 03:31:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 918A643D48 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 03:31:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57B971A3C19 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 20:31:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B991E51334; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 23:31:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 23:31:18 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: ports@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20051016033118.GA6974@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: Subject: Package build with non-standard (LOCAL|X11)BASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 03:31:19 -0000 --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline This is just a heads-up that I've started a build with LOCALBASE and X11BASE set to nonstandard values to look for ports that hard-code these (or fail to patch them). If your port has a problem, expect mail from me soon :-) I'll post the unmaintained ports with problems here at the end of the build. Kris --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDUcmGWry0BWjoQKURAgCMAJ0UI5gKFvgsas1zyMpjnLKyi790xACbB0gT SJU0urkdGBc1HOK+eRC4+MU= =AwLv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 04:18:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7331716A420 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 04:18:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from edwin@mavetju.org) Received: from mail3out.barnet.com.au (mail3out.barnet.com.au [202.83.176.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C0543D46 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 04:18:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from edwin@mavetju.org) Received: by mail3out.barnet.com.au (Postfix, from userid 27) id D5A65877CA6; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:18:46 +1000 (EST) X-Viruscan-Id: <4351D4A60000E7C00694D4@BarNet> Received: from mail3-auth.barnet.com.au (mail3.barnet.com.au [202.83.176.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.barnet.com.au", Issuer "BarNet Root Certificate Authority" (verified OK)) by mail3.barnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB9E877CA0 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:18:46 +1000 (EST) Received: from k7.mavetju (edwin-3.int.barnet.com.au [10.10.12.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "edwin.adsl.barnet.com.au", Issuer "BarNet Root Certificate Authority" (not verified)) by mail3-auth.barnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 689C8877C95 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:18:46 +1000 (EST) Received: by k7.mavetju (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D43966106; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:18:44 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:18:44 +1000 From: Edwin Groothuis To: ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051016041844.GA32997@k7.mavetju> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: Subject: ports.tar.gz vs ports.tar.bz2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 04:18:49 -0000 >From ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/ports/ -rw-r--r-- 1 edwin edwin 29151848 Oct 16 13:59 ports.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 edwin edwin 22477868 Oct 16 13:59 ports.tar.bz2 The size difference is over 25%. Not that somebody ever will download these, but still it's a large chunk of data. Edwin -- Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.mavetju.org edwin@mavetju.org | Weblog: http://weblog.barnet.com.au/edwin/ From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 04:19:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA9C716A422 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 04:19:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from edwin@mavetju.org) Received: from mail3out.barnet.com.au (mail3out.barnet.com.au [202.83.176.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F419E43D46 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 04:19:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from edwin@mavetju.org) Received: by mail3out.barnet.com.au (Postfix, from userid 27) id 1E308877C8C; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:19:14 +1000 (EST) X-Viruscan-Id: <4351D4C20000E834510E7D@BarNet> Received: from mail3-auth.barnet.com.au (mail3.barnet.com.au [202.83.176.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.barnet.com.au", Issuer "BarNet Root Certificate Authority" (verified OK)) by mail3.barnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB60A877C57; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:19:13 +1000 (EST) Received: from k7.mavetju (edwin-3.int.barnet.com.au [10.10.12.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "edwin.adsl.barnet.com.au", Issuer "BarNet Root Certificate Authority" (not verified)) by mail3-auth.barnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CC43877C30; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:19:13 +1000 (EST) Received: by k7.mavetju (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 956D86109; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:19:12 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:19:12 +1000 From: Edwin Groothuis To: Jonathan Poland Message-ID: <20051016041912.GI1278@k7.mavetju> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: The php5 port... X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 04:19:21 -0000 On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 09:30:45PM -0400, Jonathan Poland wrote: > I've tried googling and reading the docs, but I can't seem to figure > out how to get the php port to compile with other options. I want > several of the options in the lang/php5 directory turned on (i.e. gd, > exif, pcre, etc). The Makefile looks for a PHP_MODNAME variable, which is > gleaned from the PKGNAMESUFFIX variable. I see I COULD make my own > package with a proper suffix, but that'll only get me one of the many > options that I want enabled. What's the trick? They are in ports/lang/php5-extensions. Run "make config" in the directory and then "make depends". Edwin -- Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.mavetju.org edwin@mavetju.org | Weblog: http://weblog.barnet.com.au/edwin/ From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 06:47:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A0E16A421 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 06:47:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B989A43D53 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 06:47:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from default.chvlva.adelphia.net ([69.160.76.67]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051016064736.PNZY20109.mta9.adelphia.net@default.chvlva.adelphia.net>; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 02:47:36 -0400 Received: by default.chvlva.adelphia.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 81E12B5A1; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 02:47:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 02:47:44 -0400 From: Parv To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20051016064744.GA3289@holestein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Kris Kennaway , ports@FreeBSD.org References: <20051016033118.GA6974@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051016033118.GA6974@xor.obsecurity.org> Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Package build with non-standard (LOCAL|X11)BASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 06:47:38 -0000 in message <20051016033118.GA6974@xor.obsecurity.org>, wrote Kris Kennaway thusly... > > This is just a heads-up that I've started a build with LOCALBASE and > X11BASE set to nonstandard values to look for ports that hard-code > these (or fail to patch them). If your port has a problem, expect > mail from me soon :-) (I am not a maintainer, but) Lovely. - Parv -- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 07:37:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8584A16A41F for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 07:37:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xxjack12xx@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33EEA43D53 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 07:37:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xxjack12xx@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t6so131568wxc for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 00:37:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ELyxjVKhZVinCX0iAHIx5EshQWY7cWGRpJo8DDprFwQMhVqDb3Q13f+6uUBllTJtE4FqeigKsSnkb68sIjglkYnL1AzpHjBP1OVCYQ07iyw5DikwSOLDb7/IxhPqelaXfEgHJWQJXKznJ8jpR7l5FSfKaDuR3Rm1KEHy1SvQlJs= Received: by 10.70.24.10 with SMTP id 10mr1823934wxx; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 00:37:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.32.4 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 00:37:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 00:37:03 -0700 From: "Jack L." To: ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: openssl-beta does not compile X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 07:37:05 -0000 musirc# make install =3D=3D=3D> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found =3D=3D=3D> Extracting for openssl-stable-0.9.8a =3D> Checksum OK for openssl-0.9.8a.tar.gz. =3D=3D=3D> openssl-stable-0.9.8a depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.= 7 - found =3D=3D=3D> Patching for openssl-stable-0.9.8a =3D=3D=3D> openssl-stable-0.9.8a depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.= 7 - found =3D=3D=3D> Applying FreeBSD patches for openssl-stable-0.9.8a =3D=3D=3D> Applying FreeBSD patch /usr/ports/security/openssl-beta/../openssl/files/patch-Configure Hmm... Looks like a unified diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |--- Configure.orig Tue Feb 18 13:15:09 2003 |+++ Configure Wed Feb 19 19:28:01 2003 -------------------------- Patching file Configure using Plan A... Hunk #1 failed at 349. Hunk #2 failed at 394. 2 out of 2 hunks failed--saving rejects to Configure.rej done =3D> Patch patch-Configure failed to apply cleanly. *** Error code 1 From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 07:56:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 287F816A41F for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 07:56:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xxjack12xx@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BFE943D48 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 07:56:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xxjack12xx@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t6so132152wxc for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 00:56:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Di0VcLrX5jMzT8fGNaQiSVOYRCB/+nqwwMlKfBQc3J++GV/KqAtPDxe72s/W4QDSLzW1SKgUgNOojfCAq7/LkrE/T3cwbduRe7YalT15buYEzYgADV/wDHTEER3cA5Ma+nlZAa4Cc+70gvqL5/ffHO6lDCR8Y/Oz7aaQq/U1nz0= Received: by 10.70.50.4 with SMTP id x4mr1827296wxx; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 00:56:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.32.4 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 00:56:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 00:56:08 -0700 From: "Jack L." To: ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: openssh portable is still looking for openssl and not openssl-stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 07:56:09 -0000 =3D=3D=3D> Compressing manual pages for openssl-stable-0.9.7i =3D=3D=3D> Running ldconfig /sbin/ldconfig -m /usr/local/lib =3D=3D=3D> Registering installation for openssl-stable-0.9.7i =3D=3D=3D> SECURITY REPORT: This port has installed the following files which may act as network servers and may therefore pose a remote security risk to the system. /usr/local/bin/openssl /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so.3 /usr/local/lib/libssl.so.3 If there are vulnerabilities in these programs there may be a securit= y risk to the system. FreeBSD makes no guarantee about the security of ports included in the Ports Collection. Please type 'make deinstall' to deinstall the port if this is a concern. For more information, and contact details about the security status of this software, see the following webpage: http://www.openssl.org/ =3D=3D=3D> Cleaning for perl-5.8.7 =3D=3D=3D> Cleaning for openssl-stable-0.9.7i ---> Cleaning out obsolete shared libraries [Updating the pkgdb in /var/db/pkg ... - 323 packages found (-0 +1) . done] ---> Reinstalling 'openssh-portable-overwrite-base-4.2.0.0,1' (security/openssh-portable) ---> Building '/usr/ports/security/openssh-portable' =3D=3D=3D> Cleaning for perl-5.8.7 =3D=3D=3D> Cleaning for openssl-stable-0.9.7i =3D=3D=3D> Cleaning for openssh-portable-overwrite-base-4.2.0.0,1 =3D=3D=3D> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found =3D> openssh-4.2p1.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. =3D> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/OpenSSH/por= table/. openssh-4.2p1.tar.gz 100% of 892 kB 76 kBps 00m= 00s =3D=3D=3D> Extracting for openssh-portable-overwrite-base-4.2.0.0,1 =3D> Checksum OK for openssh-4.2p1.tar.gz. =3D=3D=3D> openssh-portable-overwrite-base-4.2.0.0,1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.7 - found =3D=3D=3D> Patching for openssh-portable-overwrite-base-4.2.0.0,1 =3D=3D=3D> openssh-portable-overwrite-base-4.2.0.0,1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.7 - found =3D=3D=3D> Applying extra patch /usr/ports/security/openssh-portable/files/gss-serv.c.patch Hmm... Looks like a unified diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |--- gss-serv.c.DIST Tue Sep 2 14:56:42 2003 |+++ gss-serv.c Mon Oct 6 17:56:23 2003 -------------------------- Patching file gss-serv.c using Plan A... Hunk #1 succeeded at 138. done =3D=3D=3D> Applying extra patch /usr/ports/security/openssh-portable/files/batch.patch Hmm... Looks like a unified diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |--- Makefile.in.orig Fri Feb 25 18:12:38 2005 |+++ Makefile.in Sat Mar 19 19:53:44 2005 -------------------------- Patching file Makefile.in using Plan A... Hunk #1 succeeded at 230. done =3D=3D=3D> Applying FreeBSD patches for openssh-portable-overwrite-base-4.= 2.0.0,1 =3D=3D=3D> Applying FreeBSD patch /usr/ports/security/openssh-portable/files/patch-auth.c Hmm... Looks like a unified diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |--- auth.c.orig Thu Aug 12 14:40:25 2004 |+++ auth.c Mon Sep 20 05:04:48 2004 -------------------------- Patching file auth.c using Plan A... Hunk #1 succeeded at 221 (offset 13 lines). Hunk #2 succeeded at 506 (offset 23 lines). done =3D=3D=3D> Applying FreeBSD patch /usr/ports/security/openssh-portable/files/patch-auth1.c Hmm... Looks like a unified diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |--- auth1.c.orig Sun Jul 17 04:26:44 2005 |+++ auth1.c Thu Sep 1 11:23:35 2005 -------------------------- Patching file auth1.c using Plan A... Hunk #1 succeeded at 26. Hunk #2 succeeded at 221. Hunk #3 succeeded at 280. done =3D=3D=3D> Applying FreeBSD patch /usr/ports/security/openssh-portable/files/patch-auth2.c Hmm... Looks like a unified diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |--- auth2.c.orig Tue Feb 8 11:52:48 2005 |+++ auth2.c Sat Mar 19 20:50:32 2005 -------------------------- Patching file auth2.c using Plan A... Hunk #1 succeeded at 36. Hunk #2 succeeded at 137. Hunk #3 succeeded at 193. done =3D=3D=3D> Applying FreeBSD patch /usr/ports/security/openssh-portable/files/patch-clientloop.c Hmm... Looks like a unified diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |--- clientloop.c.orig Fri Aug 13 13:18:01 2004 |+++ clientloop.c Mon Sep 20 05:04:48 2004 -------------------------- Patching file clientloop.c using Plan A... Hunk #1 succeeded at 1744 (offset 163 lines). done =3D=3D=3D> Applying FreeBSD patch /usr/ports/security/openssh-portable/files/patch-loginrec.c Hmm... Looks like a unified diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |--- loginrec.c.orig Tue Feb 15 12:19:28 2005 |+++ loginrec.c Sat Mar 19 20:55:59 2005 -------------------------- Patching file loginrec.c using Plan A... Hunk #1 succeeded at 164 with fuzz 2. Hunk #2 succeeded at 674 (offset 1 line). done =3D=3D=3D> Applying FreeBSD patch /usr/ports/security/openssh-portable/files/patch-regress-test-exec.sh Hmm... Looks like a unified diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |--- regress/test-exec.sh.orig Fri Jun 25 05:46:09 2004 |+++ regress/test-exec.sh Tue Aug 17 05:27:49 2004 -------------------------- Patching file regress/test-exec.sh using Plan A... Hunk #1 succeeded at 202 (offset 24 lines). done =3D=3D=3D> Applying FreeBSD patch /usr/ports/security/openssh-portable/files/patch-session.c Hmm... Looks like a unified diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |--- session.c.orig Sun Mar 6 12:38:52 2005 |+++ session.c Sat Mar 19 21:45:32 2005 -------------------------- Patching file session.c using Plan A... Hunk #1 succeeded at 67 (offset 1 line). Hunk #2 succeeded at 420 (offset 1 line). Hunk #3 succeeded at 563 (offset 1 line). Hunk #4 succeeded at 721 (offset 1 line). Hunk #5 succeeded at 768 (offset 1 line). Hunk #6 succeeded at 878 (offset 1 line). Hunk #7 succeeded at 907 (offset 1 line). Hunk #8 succeeded at 1096 (offset 1 line). Hunk #9 succeeded at 1111 (offset 1 line). Hunk #10 succeeded at 1178 (offset 1 line). Hunk #11 succeeded at 1402 (offset 1 line). Hunk #12 succeeded at 1435 (offset 1 line). Hunk #13 succeeded at 1492 (offset 1 line). Hunk #14 succeeded at 1601 (offset 6 lines). Hunk #15 succeeded at 1733 (offset 2 lines). done =3D=3D=3D> Applying FreeBSD patch /usr/ports/security/openssh-portable/files/patch-sshd.c Hmm... Looks like a unified diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |--- sshd.c.orig Wed Jun 26 01:24:19 2002 |+++ sshd.c Thu Jul 25 06:32:37 2002 -------------------------- Patching file sshd.c using Plan A... Hunk #1 succeeded at 53. Hunk #2 succeeded at 1637 with fuzz 2 (offset 224 lines). done =3D=3D=3D> Applying FreeBSD patch /usr/ports/security/openssh-portable/files/patch-sshd_config Hmm... Looks like a unified diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |--- sshd_config.orig Mon May 24 02:36:24 2004 |+++ sshd_config Mon Sep 20 05:04:48 2004 -------------------------- Patching file sshd_config using Plan A... Hunk #1 succeeded at 35 (offset 1 line). Hunk #2 succeeded at 59 (offset 1 line). done =3D=3D=3D> Applying FreeBSD patch /usr/ports/security/openssh-portable/files/patch-sshpty.c Hmm... Looks like a unified diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |--- sshpty.c.orig Wed Jan 21 07:07:17 2004 |+++ sshpty.c Wed Feb 25 11:58:54 2004 -------------------------- Patching file sshpty.c using Plan A... Hunk #1 succeeded at 17. done =3D=3D=3D> openssh-portable-overwrite-base-4.2.0.0,1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so.4 - not found =3D=3D=3D> Verifying install for /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so.4 in /usr/ports/security/openssl =3D=3D=3D> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found =3D=3D=3D> Extracting for openssl-stable-0.9.7i =3D> Checksum OK for openssl-0.9.7i.tar.gz. =3D=3D=3D> openssl-stable-0.9.7i depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.= 7 - found =3D=3D=3D> Patching for openssl-stable-0.9.7i =3D=3D=3D> openssl-stable-0.9.7i depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.= 7 - found =3D=3D=3D> Applying FreeBSD patches for openssl-stable-0.9.7i =3D=3D=3D> Applying FreeBSD patch /usr/ports/security/openssl/files/patch= -Configure Hmm... Looks like a unified diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |--- Configure.orig Tue Feb 18 13:15:09 2003 |+++ Configure Wed Feb 19 19:28:01 2003 -------------------------- Patching file Configure using Plan A... Hunk #1 succeeded at 367 (offset 18 lines). Hunk #2 succeeded at 397 (offset 3 lines). done =3D=3D=3D> Applying FreeBSD patch /usr/ports/security/openssl/files/patch-Makefile.org Hmm... Looks like a unified diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |--- Makefile.org.orig Tue Mar 15 10:46:13 2005 |+++ Makefile.org Wed Mar 23 11:03:41 2005 -------------------------- Patching file Makefile.org using Plan A... Hunk #1 succeeded at 176 (offset 1 line). Hunk #2 succeeded at 195 (offset 1 line). Hunk #3 succeeded at 308 with fuzz 2 (offset 3 lines). Hunk #4 succeeded at 773 (offset -30 lines). Hunk #5 succeeded at 887 (offset 12 lines). done =3D=3D=3D> Applying FreeBSD patch /usr/ports/security/openssl/files/patch= -ad Hmm... Looks like a unified diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |--- crypto/md5/md5.c.orig Thu Apr 9 07:59:29 1998 |+++ crypto/md5/md5.c Sun Dec 27 18:44:33 1998 -------------------------- Patching file crypto/md5/md5.c using Plan A... Hunk #1 succeeded at 88 (offset -6 lines). done =3D=3D=3D> Applying FreeBSD patch /usr/ports/security/openssl/files/patch= -ak Hmm... Looks like a unified diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |--- apps/Makefile.orig Tue Aug 10 11:09:07 2004 |+++ apps/Makefile Tue Oct 26 07:00:51 2004 -------------------------- Patching file apps/Makefile using Plan A... Hunk #1 succeeded at 121 (offset 9 lines). done =3D=3D=3D> Applying FreeBSD patch /usr/ports/security/openssl/files/patch-apps-dgst.c Hmm... Looks like a unified diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |--- apps/dgst.c.orig Thu Aug 5 20:10:46 2004 |+++ apps/dgst.c Tue Oct 26 07:02:30 2004 -------------------------- Patching file apps/dgst.c using Plan A... Hunk #1 succeeded at 387 (offset 24 lines). done =3D=3D=3D> Applying FreeBSD patch /usr/ports/security/openssl/files/patch= -config Hmm... Looks like a unified diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |--- config.orig Thu Mar 20 12:44:31 2003 |+++ config Sun Jul 6 04:39:01 2003 -------------------------- Patching file config using Plan A... Hunk #1 succeeded at 404 (offset 12 lines). Hunk #2 succeeded at 414 (offset 12 lines). Hunk #3 succeeded at 657 (offset 15 lines). done =3D=3D=3D> Applying FreeBSD patch /usr/ports/security/openssl/files/patch-crypto-dso-Makefile Hmm... Looks like a unified diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |--- crypto/dso/Makefile.orig Tue May 11 14:45:17 2004 |+++ crypto/dso/Makefile Fri Nov 5 05:37:11 2004 -------------------------- Patching file crypto/dso/Makefile using Plan A... Hunk #1 succeeded at 23. done =3D=3D=3D> Applying FreeBSD patch /usr/ports/security/openssl/files/patch-doc-crypto-des_modes.pod Hmm... Looks like a unified diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |--- doc/crypto/des_modes.pod.orig Tue Mar 5 16:30:13 2002 |+++ doc/crypto/des_modes.pod Tue Sep 30 18:58:27 2003 -------------------------- Patching file doc/crypto/des_modes.pod using Plan A... Hunk #1 succeeded at 2. done =3D=3D=3D> Applying FreeBSD patch /usr/ports/security/openssl/files/patch-hw_cryptodev.c Hmm... Looks like a unified diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |--- crypto/engine/hw_cryptodev.c.orig Thu Jan 23 09:10:07 2003 |+++ crypto/engine/hw_cryptodev.c Mon Aug 4 05:39:28 2003 -------------------------- Patching file crypto/engine/hw_cryptodev.c using Plan A... Hunk #1 succeeded at 32 (offset -3 lines). done =3D=3D=3D> Applying FreeBSD patch /usr/ports/security/openssl/files/patch-hw_cryptodev.c-aes_256 Hmm... Looks like a unified diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D |RCS file: crypto/engine/hw_cryptodev.c,v |retrieving revision 1.17 |retrieving revision 1.18 |diff -u -p -r1.17 -r1.18 |--- crypto/engine/hw_cryptodev.c 2003/06/03 15:57:44 1.17 |+++ crypto/engine/hw_cryptodev.c 2003/08/07 16:27:47 1.18 -------------------------- Patching file crypto/engine/hw_cryptodev.c using Plan A... Hunk #1 succeeded at 68 with fuzz 2. Hunk #2 succeeded at 127. Hunk #3 succeeded at 204 (offset 2 lines). Hunk #4 succeeded at 236 (offset 2 lines). Hunk #5 succeeded at 397 (offset 2 lines). Hunk #6 succeeded at 415 (offset 2 lines). Hunk #7 succeeded at 520 (offset 2 lines). Hunk #8 succeeded at 533 (offset 2 lines). Hunk #9 succeeded at 585 (offset 2 lines). done =3D=3D=3D> Applying FreeBSD patch /usr/ports/security/openssl/files/patch-hw_cryptodev.c-cloning Hmm... Looks like a unified diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |Index: crypto/engine/hw_cryptodev.c |=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D |RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/crypto/openssl/crypto/engine/hw_cryptodev.c,v |retrieving revision 1.1.1.3 |diff -u -r1.1.1.3 hw_cryptodev.c |--- crypto/engine/hw_cryptodev.c 17 Mar 2004 15:44:46 -0000 1.1= .1.3 |+++ crypto/engine/hw_cryptodev.c 18 Jan 2005 12:27:17 -0000 -------------------------- Patching file crypto/engine/hw_cryptodev.c using Plan A... Hunk #1 succeeded at 184 (offset 4 lines). Hmm... The next patch looks like a unified diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |Index: crypto/evp/openbsd_hw.c |=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D |RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/crypto/openssl/crypto/evp/openbsd_hw.c,v |retrieving revision 1.1.1.1 |diff -u -r1.1.1.1 openbsd_hw.c |--- crypto/evp/openbsd_hw.c 28 Jan 2003 21:24:39 -0000 1.1.1.1 |+++ crypto/evp/openbsd_hw.c 18 Jan 2005 12:26:45 -0000 -------------------------- Patching file crypto/evp/openbsd_hw.c using Plan A... Hunk #1 succeeded at 109. done =3D=3D=3D> openssl-stable-0.9.7i depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.= 7 - found =3D=3D=3D> Configuring for openssl-stable-0.9.7i cd /usr/ports/security/openssl/work/openssl-0.9.7i && /usr/bin/env CC=3D"cc" CFLAGS=3D"-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=3Dathlon-xp -Wl,-rpath,/usr/local/lib" PERL=3D"/usr/local/bin/perl" PTHREAD_CFLAGS=3D PTHREAD_LIBS=3D-pthread ./config --prefix=3D/usr/local --openssldir=3D/usr/local/openssl -L/usr/local/lib no-fips shared 386 Operating system: i386-pc-freebsd6.0 From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 12:05:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B2CF16A41F for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 12:05:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D92C43D73 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 12:05:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 8so707286nzo for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 05:05:49 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=tmb9TFc5mhQbWG7Csp8ehUmwpuXWApK0wot6CRAEfhTF1K2LR6CaJLmyo1lpLsIx01qj5DZB9UxK41DYHpckOb+UAdPv6DMxRg+twjU7vZcQVqd/fcJgIZYaZPf7X0YnQnWJjLp2q6NalYCiWYCR//IiDjujGO1xqYYi0xXodcg= Received: by 10.37.15.64 with SMTP id s64mr1348777nzi; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 05:05:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.37.20.34 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 05:05:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 16:05:49 +0400 From: "Andrew P." To: ports@freebsd.org, Sergey Matveychuk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Moviedb - broken or not? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 12:05:57 -0000 Freshports say moviedb was unbroken this January. I tried installing it at different times on 4.x/5.x/6.x, but always got some kind of mistake. Today it was like this: # make # make install <...> Adding Distributor List... ...315653 read /usr/local/libexec/moviedb/mkdb -create *** Signal 11 Am I doing something wrong or is there a problem? From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 05:46:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD9816A41F; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 05:46:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from smtp.omnis.com (smtp.omnis.com [216.239.128.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18B2C43D48; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 05:46:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from [204.68.178.34] (cpe-66-75-60-23.san.res.rr.com [66.75.60.23]) by smtp-relay.omnis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7227820068A3; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:46:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4350CE50.8080704@ebs.gr> References: <200510150015.j9F0ExKr085847@sakura.ninth-nine.com> <20051015053003.GB28137@soaustin.net> <4350CE50.8080704@ebs.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v734) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <5739E97B-7EDC-4971-9EA5-01A44688A981@softweyr.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Wes Peters Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:46:16 -0700 To: Panagiotis Astithas X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.734) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 12:08:41 +0000 Cc: tux@pinguru.net, wes@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-eclipse@FreeBSD.org, mitsuru@riken.jp, Norikatsu Shigemura , rtdean@cytherianage.net, sugimura@jp.FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, Mark Linimon , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 05:46:20 -0000 On Oct 15, 2005, at 2:39 AM, Panagiotis Astithas wrote: > Mark Linimon wrote: > >> On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 09:15:07PM -0700, Wes Peters wrote: >> >>> I don't mind moving the eclipse ports from java to devel, but all >>> the other eclipse ports are add-ins to eclipse and should >>> probably be classified along with eclipse. >>> >> [adding freebsd-java to the Cc:] >> For some background, there's been on-and-off discussion on -java >> about how the java category was never really a good idea. None of >> the other languages have their own primary category. In particular >> we've completely failed to train our users to send 'java' PRs only >> for problems with the JVMs and 'ports' PRs for things in ports/java. >> >>> In particular, if eclipse is a 'devel' tool, I don't see how CDT >>> and phpeclipse are editors. GEF isn't a graphics library, it's >>> a graphical emulation framework for eclipse, which is (again) a >>> development tool. > > Although I agree with everything you say here, I can't see how this > is an argument against the fact that GEF and CDT most probably > belong to devel. Unless I'm mistaken and you were not making one? I was making an argument that regardless of where eclipse migrates too, all of it's little pieces should go right along with it, rather than getting spread all over the ports system. > Regarding the splitting of devel and www categories, perhaps we > should wait until the port tree migrates to subversion (yeah, > right :-))? Or hell freezes over, whichever happens first? -- Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket? Wes Peters wes@softweyr.com From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 05:57:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEA5E16A41F; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 05:57:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9197E43D46; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 05:57:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 197DF2F80; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 00:57:29 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 00:57:29 -0500 To: Wes Peters Message-ID: <20051016055729.GA10933@soaustin.net> References: <200510150015.j9F0ExKr085847@sakura.ninth-nine.com> <20051015053003.GB28137@soaustin.net> <4350CE50.8080704@ebs.gr> <5739E97B-7EDC-4971-9EA5-01A44688A981@softweyr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5739E97B-7EDC-4971-9EA5-01A44688A981@softweyr.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 12:08:41 +0000 Cc: tux@pinguru.net, wes@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-eclipse@FreeBSD.org, mitsuru@riken.jp, Norikatsu Shigemura , rtdean@cytherianage.net, sugimura@jp.FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, Mark Linimon , Panagiotis Astithas , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 05:57:30 -0000 On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 10:46:16PM -0700, Wes Peters wrote: > >Regarding the splitting of devel and www categories, perhaps we > >should wait until the port tree migrates to subversion (yeah, > >right :-))? > > Or hell freezes over, whichever happens first? /me does a poll to see how many people want to do 500-1000 repocopies. Hands? Anyone? mcl From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 10:20:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 967D016A420; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 10:20:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from past@ebs.gr) Received: from fly.ebs.gr (fly.ebs.gr [62.103.84.177]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6071743D46; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 10:20:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from past@ebs.gr) Received: from ebs.gr (root@hal.ebs.gr [10.1.1.2]) by fly.ebs.gr (8.12.9p1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9GAKX9V033767; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 13:20:33 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from past@ebs.gr) Received: from [10.1.1.200] (pptp.ebs.gr [10.1.1.200]) by ebs.gr (8.13.3/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9GAKY4e020921; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 13:20:35 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from past@ebs.gr) Message-ID: <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 13:20:03 +0300 From: Panagiotis Astithas Organization: EBS Ltd. User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051008) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wes Peters References: <200510150015.j9F0ExKr085847@sakura.ninth-nine.com> <20051015053003.GB28137@soaustin.net> <4350CE50.8080704@ebs.gr> <5739E97B-7EDC-4971-9EA5-01A44688A981@softweyr.com> In-Reply-To: <5739E97B-7EDC-4971-9EA5-01A44688A981@softweyr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 12:08:41 +0000 Cc: tux@pinguru.net, wes@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-eclipse@FreeBSD.org, mitsuru@riken.jp, Norikatsu Shigemura , rtdean@cytherianage.net, sugimura@jp.FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, Mark Linimon , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 10:20:40 -0000 Wes Peters wrote: > > On Oct 15, 2005, at 2:39 AM, Panagiotis Astithas wrote: > >> Mark Linimon wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 09:15:07PM -0700, Wes Peters wrote: >>> >>>> I don't mind moving the eclipse ports from java to devel, but all >>>> the other eclipse ports are add-ins to eclipse and should probably >>>> be classified along with eclipse. >>>> >>> [adding freebsd-java to the Cc:] >>> For some background, there's been on-and-off discussion on -java >>> about how the java category was never really a good idea. None of >>> the other languages have their own primary category. In particular >>> we've completely failed to train our users to send 'java' PRs only >>> for problems with the JVMs and 'ports' PRs for things in ports/java. >>> >>>> In particular, if eclipse is a 'devel' tool, I don't see how CDT >>>> and phpeclipse are editors. GEF isn't a graphics library, it's a >>>> graphical emulation framework for eclipse, which is (again) a >>>> development tool. >> >> >> Although I agree with everything you say here, I can't see how this >> is an argument against the fact that GEF and CDT most probably belong >> to devel. Unless I'm mistaken and you were not making one? > > > I was making an argument that regardless of where eclipse migrates too, > all of it's little pieces should go right along with it, rather than > getting spread all over the ports system. Since you snipped Mark's reply in your quote, let me clarify that my comments above were directed to Mark and I agree with your point. However I'm not sure whether there has to be a strict rule that every eclipse-foo port should go in the same category. Perhaps the emacs precedent should be followed. See below. Norikatsu Shigemura wrote: > On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 09:14:59 +0900 (JST) > Norikatsu Shigemura wrote: > >>Hi eclipse and eclipse related ports maintainers and users! >> Some time ago, someone suggested that eclipse and eclipse >> related ports should be located on proper categories. I >> think so. So I suggest following repocopy list. Anyone, >> do you have any idea? > > > Oops, I missed. Eclipse is very similar to Emacs: > 1. IDE > Emacs is a one of IDE(or platform). And anyone doesn't > think that it is ONLY a elisp interpreter. But it is > a editor. So I think that it is no problem that Eclipse > may be categolize to editors. > > 2. Extension-able > Emacs has many extention modules like news reader, language > support, games, ... > > 3. Mode > Emacs has many mode for descriptions like C, Perl, Java, ... > > 4. others > It must be that there are other similar feature:-). > > java/eclipse -> editors/eclipse > java/eclipse-EPIC -> editors/eclipse-EPIC > java/eclipse-cdt -> editors/eclipse-cdt > java/eclipse-checkstyle -> devel/eclipse-checkstyle > java/eclipse-clay-core -> databases/eclipse-clay-core > java/eclipse-devel -> editors/eclipse-devel > java/eclipse-emf -> editors/eclipse-emf > java/eclipse-examples -> devel/eclipse-examples > java/eclipse-gef -> editors/eclipse-gef > java/eclipse-gef-examples -> editors/eclipse-gef-examples > java/eclipse-langpack -> editors/eclipse-langpack > java/eclipse-log4e -> editors/eclipse-log4e > java/eclipse-lomboz -> devel/eclipse-lomboz > java/eclipse-pmd -> devel/eclipse-pmd > java/eclipse-quantum -> databases/eclipse-quantum > java/eclipse-sqlexplorer -> databases/eclipse-sqlexplorer > java/eclipse-sysdeo-tomcat -> www/eclipse-sysdeo-tomcat > java/eclipse-uml -> editors/eclipse-uml > java/eclipse-v4all -> editors/eclipse-v4all > java/eclipse-vep -> editors/eclipse-vep > java/eclipse-vep-examples -> editors/eclipse-vep-examples > java/eclipse-viplugin -> editors/eclipse-viplugin > java/eclipseme -> devel/eclipseme > java/phpeclipse -> editors/phpeclipse This sounds fine, too. Cheers, Panagiotis From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 17:04:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF87716A41F; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 17:04:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@comcast.net) Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [63.240.76.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3413143D48; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 17:04:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@comcast.net) Received: from smogmonster.local (pcp0010916331pcs.albqrq01.nm.comcast.net[68.35.114.183]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2005101617043101300kshole>; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 17:04:31 +0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, "David E. O'Brien" Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 11:04:24 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510161104.27533.krinklyfig@comcast.net> Cc: Subject: lsof-4.76 build fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 17:04:33 -0000 I notice the last commit says in the log: "This time really fix the build on RELENG_6" (the previous one said, "Update to snapshot version to fix 6.0 build problems"). Well, I am still on BETA5, but lsof built fine up until the latest commit, though I didn't try to build after Saturday's commit. # uname -a FreeBSD smogmonster.local 6.0-BETA5 FreeBSD 6.0-BETA5 #0: Mon Sep 26 20:36:41 MDT 2005 krinklyfig@smogmonster.local:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL60 i386 ... cc -pipe -DHASEFFNLINK=i_effnlink -DHASF_VNODE -DHASCPUMASK_T -DHASSBSTATE -DHAS_KVM_VNODE -DHAS_UFS1_2 -DHAS_NO_SI_UDEV -DFREEBSDV=6000 -DHASFDESCFS=2 -DHASPSEUDOFS -DHASNULLFS -DHAS9660FS -DHAS_NO_ISO_DEV -DHASIPv6 -DLSOF_VSTR=\"6.0-BETA5\" -I/usr/src/sys -O -c dmnt.c dmnt.c: In function `dev2udev': dmnt.c:96: error: structure has no member named `si_inode' dmnt.c:186: error: structure has no member named `si_inode' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/lsof/work/lsof_4.77A.freebsd. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/lsof. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade28214.0 make ** Fix the problem and try again. ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) ! sysutils/lsof (lsof-4.76) (struct changes) ---> Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed - jt From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 17:09:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C9DF16A422 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 17:09:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C69C343D5E for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 17:09:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 8so728696nzo for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 10:09:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cVBcQspUQrqtrj+xEQOtU56RZ4UIJachy41SYnhnL/1H61FJppfLQOAnN+6KifC31xsA9rsRTymnfmygAvMM8ldvr0Pr0xwG3Gosf0kIIl8WNj4bN9UZXNFBUDvscF0qArh32JynE+OoJExobvj9K8aapbUU9py+Da5WP6aeyYA= Received: by 10.37.15.79 with SMTP id s79mr1788881nzi; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 10:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.37.20.34 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 10:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 21:09:05 +0400 From: "Andrew P." To: Sergey Matveychuk In-Reply-To: <435255EF.8070003@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <435255EF.8070003@FreeBSD.org> Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Moviedb - broken or not? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 17:09:07 -0000 On 10/16/05, Sergey Matveychuk wrote: > Andrew P. wrote: > > Freshports say moviedb was unbroken this January. > > I tried installing it at different times on 4.x/5.x/6.x, > > but always got some kind of mistake. > > > > Today it was like this: > > > > # make > > > > # make install > > <...> > > Adding Distributor List... > > ...315653 read > > /usr/local/libexec/moviedb/mkdb -create > > *** Signal 11 > > > > Am I doing something wrong or is there a problem? > > No it works. I've checked it both on 4.11 and 5.4. And pointyhat reports > no problem for it. > May be you have not enough of disk space? The port require about 500 Mb > free space. > > -- > Sem. > > Oh, my! The distinfo file is just not funny. There has to be a better way to deal with this. Better than downloading the whole database every week. They offer incremental weekly diffs, we should figure out how to do it right. The obvious solution would be to host a static db somewhere and have the port fetch all the needed patches. Any ideas? From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 17:12:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89E6916A422 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 17:12:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sem@FreeBSD.org) Received: from core.inec.ru (core.inec.ru [213.148.3.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E76443D5D for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 17:12:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sem@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [213.85.81.137] (helo=[192.168.0.3]) by core.inec.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.51 (FreeBSD)) id 1ERC3B-000Gh9-IS; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 21:11:57 +0400 Message-ID: <43528A0C.40605@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 21:12:44 +0400 From: Sergey Matveychuk User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051001) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Andrew P." References: <435255EF.8070003@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Moviedb - broken or not? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 17:12:49 -0000 Andrew P. wrote: > > Oh, my! The distinfo file is just not funny. There > has to be a better way to deal with this. Better > than downloading the whole database every > week. They offer incremental weekly diffs, we > should figure out how to do it right. > > The obvious solution would be to host a static > db somewhere and have the port fetch all the > needed patches. > > Any ideas? Try discuss this with a port maintainer: user@unknown.nu. Yes, this address is not fake :) -- Sem. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 19:51:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0272316A41F; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:51:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B93E743D46; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:51:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4BED1A3C19; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 12:51:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E711F511B1; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 15:51:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 15:51:29 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Andrew P." Message-ID: <20051016195129.GA90311@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: ports@freebsd.org, Sergey Matveychuk Subject: Re: Moviedb - broken or not? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:51:31 -0000 --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 04:05:49PM +0400, Andrew P. wrote: > Freshports say moviedb was unbroken this January. > I tried installing it at different times on 4.x/5.x/6.x, > but always got some kind of mistake. >=20 > Today it was like this: >=20 > # make > > # make install > <...> > Adding Distributor List... > ...315653 read > /usr/local/libexec/moviedb/mkdb -create > *** Signal 11 >=20 > Am I doing something wrong or is there a problem? No, this is the same problem I reported to the maintainer without response many months ago. I'll mark it BROKEN again. Kris --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDUq9BWry0BWjoQKURAhEwAKDv3yhgFsipaG2qsdhzjRdvyOX1OgCg7E1p DqMuKwBZaxJF9ruZMzxYvf4= =3QuF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 19:51:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E8F16A41F; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:51:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA6E043D49; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:51:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C56A51A3C1C; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 12:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2ABAE511FD; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 15:51:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 15:51:51 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Joshua Tinnin Message-ID: <20051016195150.GB90311@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <200510161104.27533.krinklyfig@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="R3G7APHDIzY6R/pk" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200510161104.27533.krinklyfig@comcast.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lsof-4.76 build fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:51:52 -0000 --R3G7APHDIzY6R/pk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 11:04:24AM -0600, Joshua Tinnin wrote: > I notice the last commit says in the log: "This time really fix the=20 > build on RELENG_6" (the previous one said, "Update to snapshot version=20 > to fix 6.0 build problems"). Well, I am still on BETA5, but lsof built=20 > fine up until the latest commit, though I didn't try to build after=20 > Saturday's commit. Update to the subsequent commit. Kris --R3G7APHDIzY6R/pk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDUq9WWry0BWjoQKURAjtpAJ0RTzEKTgmu70nEzAvJZNhQdCG2egCgsRRE 6Icg82HlzB0/WVrLpKZL7iU= =GwEF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --R3G7APHDIzY6R/pk-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 19:52:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E175B16A41F; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:52:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78DC643D46; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:52:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B811A3C1A; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 12:52:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CFBFD511B1; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 15:52:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 15:52:16 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Sergey Matveychuk Message-ID: <20051016195216.GC90311@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <435255EF.8070003@FreeBSD.org> <43528A0C.40605@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="JWEK1jqKZ6MHAcjA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43528A0C.40605@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: ports@freebsd.org, "Andrew P." Subject: Re: Moviedb - broken or not? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:52:18 -0000 --JWEK1jqKZ6MHAcjA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 09:12:44PM +0400, Sergey Matveychuk wrote: > Andrew P. wrote: > > > >Oh, my! The distinfo file is just not funny. There > >has to be a better way to deal with this. Better > >than downloading the whole database every > >week. They offer incremental weekly diffs, we > >should figure out how to do it right. > > > >The obvious solution would be to host a static > >db somewhere and have the port fetch all the > >needed patches. > > > >Any ideas? >=20 > Try discuss this with a port maintainer: user@unknown.nu. > Yes, this address is not fake :) The port maintainer has not been responsive to me. Kris --JWEK1jqKZ6MHAcjA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDUq9wWry0BWjoQKURAmRGAJ0bJ5bOGO4ocu0T9jVG26gNEboF8QCfZmQk mWIQ0laQzdLPgEFSyEHmdO8= =paYC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --JWEK1jqKZ6MHAcjA-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 20:44:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94C0016A41F for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 20:44:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dukecmmtao01.coxmail.com (dukecmmtao01.coxmail.com [68.99.120.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C9043D48 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 20:44:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dns1 ([64.58.171.82]) by dukecmmtao01.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051016204414.MDLV7298.dukecmmtao01.coxmail.com@dns1> for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 16:44:14 -0400 From: Vizion To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 13:39:15 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510161339.16247.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 20:44:04 -0000 On Sunday 16 October 2005 03:20, =A0the author Panagiotis Astithas contribu= ted=20 to the dialogue on- =A0Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports:=20 >Wes Peters wrote: >> On Oct 15, 2005, at 2:39 AM, Panagiotis Astithas wrote: >>> Mark Linimon wrote: >>>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 09:15:07PM -0700, Wes Peters wrote: >>>>> I don't mind moving the eclipse ports from java to devel, but all >>>>> the =A0other eclipse ports are add-ins to eclipse and should =A0proba= bly >>>>> be =A0classified along with eclipse. >>>> >>>> [adding freebsd-java to the Cc:] >>>> For some background, there's been on-and-off discussion on -java >>>> about how the java category was never really a good idea. =A0None of >>>> the other languages have their own primary category. =A0In particular >>>> we've completely failed to train our users to send 'java' PRs only >>>> for problems with the JVMs and 'ports' PRs for things in ports/java. >>>> >>>>> In particular, if eclipse is a 'devel' tool, I don't see how CDT >>>>> and phpeclipse are editors. =A0GEF isn't a graphics library, it's =A0a >>>>> graphical emulation framework for eclipse, which is (again) a >>>>> development tool. >>> >>> Although I agree with everything you say here, I can't see how this >>> is an argument against the fact that GEF and CDT most probably =A0belong >>> to devel. Unless I'm mistaken and you were not making one? >> >> I was making an argument that regardless of where eclipse migrates =A0to= o, >> all of it's little pieces should go right along with it, rather =A0than >> getting spread all over the ports system. > >Since you snipped Mark's reply in your quote, let me clarify that my >comments above were directed to Mark and I agree with your point. >However I'm not sure whether there has to be a strict rule that every >eclipse-foo port should go in the same category. Perhaps the emacs >precedent should be followed. See below. > >Norikatsu Shigemura wrote: > > On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 09:14:59 +0900 (JST) > > > > Norikatsu Shigemura wrote: > >>Hi eclipse and eclipse related ports maintainers and users! > >>=A0=A0=A0=A0Some time ago, someone suggested that eclipse and eclipse > >>=A0=A0=A0=A0related ports should be located on proper categories. =A0I > >>=A0=A0=A0=A0think so. =A0So I suggest following repocopy list. =A0Anyon= e, > >>=A0=A0=A0=A0do you have any idea? > > > > =A0=A0=A0=A0Oops, I missed. =A0Eclipse is very similar to Emacs: > > =A0=A0=A0=A01. IDE > > =A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0 Emacs is a one of IDE(or platform). =A0And anyone does= n't > > =A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0 think that it is ONLY a elisp interpreter. =A0But it is > > =A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0 a editor. =A0So I think that it is no problem that Ecl= ipse > > =A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0 may be categolize to editors. > > > > =A0=A0=A0=A02. Extension-able > > =A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0 Emacs has many extention modules like news reader, lan= guage > > =A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0 support, games, ... > > > > =A0=A0=A0=A03. Mode > > =A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0 Emacs has many mode for descriptions like C, Perl, Jav= a, ... > > > > =A0=A0=A0=A04. others > > =A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0 It must be that there are other similar feature:-). > > > > =A0=A0=A0=A0java/eclipse =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-> editors/ecli= pse > > =A0=A0=A0=A0java/eclipse-EPIC =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 -> editors/eclipse-EP= IC > > =A0=A0=A0=A0java/eclipse-cdt =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-> editors/eclipse-= cdt > > =A0=A0=A0=A0java/eclipse-checkstyle =A0 =A0 -> devel/eclipse-checkstyle > > =A0=A0=A0=A0java/eclipse-clay-core =A0 =A0 =A0-> databases/eclipse-clay= =2Dcore > > =A0=A0=A0=A0java/eclipse-devel =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-> editors/eclipse-de= vel > > =A0=A0=A0=A0java/eclipse-emf =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-> editors/eclipse-= emf > > =A0=A0=A0=A0java/eclipse-examples =A0 =A0 =A0 -> devel/eclipse-examples > > =A0=A0=A0=A0java/eclipse-gef =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-> editors/eclipse-= gef > > =A0=A0=A0=A0java/eclipse-gef-examples =A0 -> editors/eclipse-gef-exampl= es > > =A0=A0=A0=A0java/eclipse-langpack =A0 =A0 =A0 -> editors/eclipse-langpa= ck > > =A0=A0=A0=A0java/eclipse-log4e =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-> editors/eclipse-lo= g4e > > =A0=A0=A0=A0java/eclipse-lomboz =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 -> devel/eclipse-lomboz > > =A0=A0=A0=A0java/eclipse-pmd =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-> devel/eclipse-pmd > > =A0=A0=A0=A0java/eclipse-quantum =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-> databases/eclipse-qu= antum > > =A0=A0=A0=A0java/eclipse-sqlexplorer =A0 =A0-> databases/eclipse-sqlexp= lorer > > =A0=A0=A0=A0java/eclipse-sysdeo-tomcat =A0-> www/eclipse-sysdeo-tomcat > > =A0=A0=A0=A0java/eclipse-uml =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-> editors/eclipse-= uml > > =A0=A0=A0=A0java/eclipse-v4all =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-> editors/eclipse-v4= all > > =A0=A0=A0=A0java/eclipse-vep =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-> editors/eclipse-= vep > > =A0=A0=A0=A0java/eclipse-vep-examples =A0 -> editors/eclipse-vep-exampl= es > > =A0=A0=A0=A0java/eclipse-viplugin =A0 =A0 =A0 -> editors/eclipse-viplug= in > > =A0=A0=A0=A0java/eclipseme =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-> devel/eclipseme > > =A0=A0=A0=A0java/phpeclipse =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 -> editors/phpeclip= se > >This sounds fine, too. Sounds crazy to me... Scattering eclipse tools over the whole ports collections is, to my mind, a= =20 retrograde, rather than a positive step. There are another 290 pus eclipse= =20 tools to bring on board!! I would continue to advocate for a single collection david=20 =2D-=20 40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Tauru= s. Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing bound for Europe via Panama Canal afte= r=20 completing engineroom refit. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 21:02:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CE4E16A41F; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 21:02:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F0843D46; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 21:02:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 352E82FFB; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 16:02:06 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 16:02:06 -0500 To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20051016210206.GB17973@soaustin.net> References: <435255EF.8070003@FreeBSD.org> <43528A0C.40605@FreeBSD.org> <20051016195216.GC90311@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051016195216.GC90311@xor.obsecurity.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Cc: ports@freebsd.org, "Andrew P." , Sergey Matveychuk Subject: Re: Moviedb - broken or not? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 21:02:07 -0000 On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 03:52:16PM -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote: > The port maintainer has not been responsive to me. I got a relatively quick response about misc/brs on Oct. 11th. mcl From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 21:06:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1087C16A41F for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 21:06:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@comcast.net) Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [63.240.76.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D5F243D49 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 21:06:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@comcast.net) Received: from smogmonster.local (pcp0010916331pcs.albqrq01.nm.comcast.net[68.35.114.183]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with ESMTP id <2005101621065101400n5s6ke>; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 21:06:51 +0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 15:06:37 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <200510161104.27533.krinklyfig@comcast.net> <20051016195150.GB90311@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20051016195150.GB90311@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510161506.40003.krinklyfig@comcast.net> Cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: lsof-4.76 build fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 21:06:53 -0000 On Sun 16 Oct 05 13:51, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 11:04:24AM -0600, Joshua Tinnin wrote: > > I notice the last commit says in the log: "This time really fix the > > build on RELENG_6" (the previous one said, "Update to snapshot > > version to fix 6.0 build problems"). Well, I am still on BETA5, but > > lsof built fine up until the latest commit, though I didn't try to > > build after Saturday's commit. > > Update to the subsequent commit. I have. My ports tree is updated every day at 6am (MDT), and I tried upgrading the port after that today. Just to be sure, I supped again just a few minutes ago and am getting the same error. The upgrade is from 4.76 to 4.76.1.1. - jt From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 21:13:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C4716A41F for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 21:13:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@comcast.net) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69A9C43D4C for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 21:13:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@comcast.net) Received: from smogmonster.local (pcp0010916331pcs.albqrq01.nm.comcast.net[68.35.114.183]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2005101621131601400l86hhe>; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 21:13:16 +0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 15:13:12 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <200510161104.27533.krinklyfig@comcast.net> <20051016195150.GB90311@xor.obsecurity.org> <200510161506.40003.krinklyfig@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <200510161506.40003.krinklyfig@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510161513.14866.krinklyfig@comcast.net> Cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: lsof-4.76.1.1 build fails (was: Re: lsof-4.76 build fails) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 21:13:17 -0000 On Sun 16 Oct 05 15:06, Joshua Tinnin wrote: > The upgrade is from 4.76 to 4.76.1.1. Occurs to me that the subject has the wrong version. That should be lsof-4.76.1.1, which may have caused some confusion. Sorry about that. - jt From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 22:12:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB16F16A41F for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:12:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F7543D48 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:12:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9GMCREM079336; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 15:12:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id j9GMCR5u079335; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 15:12:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 15:12:27 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Joshua Tinnin Message-ID: <20051016221227.GB79135@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <200510161104.27533.krinklyfig@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200510161104.27533.krinklyfig@comcast.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lsof-4.76 build fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:12:29 -0000 On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 11:04:24AM -0600, Joshua Tinnin wrote: > I notice the last commit says in the log: "This time really fix the > build on RELENG_6" (the previous one said, "Update to snapshot version > to fix 6.0 build problems"). Well, I am still on BETA5, but lsof built > fine up until the latest commit, though I didn't try to build after > Saturday's commit. The initial commit I made Saturday allowed me to build on a 6.0 Beta. But building on 6.0 RC failed. Please update your system to RELENG_6 and try again. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 22:57:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B20016A41F for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:57:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE0E343D48 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:57:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C652B1A3C1A; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 15:57:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E30F9511BC; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:57:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:57:49 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Joshua Tinnin Message-ID: <20051016225749.GA41826@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <200510161104.27533.krinklyfig@comcast.net> <20051016195150.GB90311@xor.obsecurity.org> <200510161506.40003.krinklyfig@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200510161506.40003.krinklyfig@comcast.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: lsof-4.76 build fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:57:51 -0000 --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 03:06:37PM -0600, Joshua Tinnin wrote: > On Sun 16 Oct 05 13:51, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 11:04:24AM -0600, Joshua Tinnin wrote: > > > I notice the last commit says in the log: "This time really fix the > > > build on RELENG_6" (the previous one said, "Update to snapshot > > > version to fix 6.0 build problems"). Well, I am still on BETA5, but > > > lsof built fine up until the latest commit, though I didn't try to > > > build after Saturday's commit. > > > > Update to the subsequent commit. >=20 > I have. My ports tree is updated every day at 6am (MDT), and I tried=20 > upgrading the port after that today. Just to be sure, I supped again=20 > just a few minutes ago and am getting the same error. The upgrade is=20 > from 4.76 to 4.76.1.1. Double-check that you are running an up-to-date system and that you have no stale headers installed: 4.76.1.1 fixed all build errors for me on a clean RELENG_6 system. Kris --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDUtrtWry0BWjoQKURAjnOAJ0R+HFD+lkHGQbQGb+OWuWyrLcr6gCg72lk +yC92k1ysfabajkIDDCvfPM= =vZHk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 23:02:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57F4916A41F for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 23:02:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com (lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com [68.99.120.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECEA743D7E for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 23:02:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dns1 ([64.58.171.82]) by lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051016230209.JCTA17511.lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com@dns1> for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:02:09 -0400 From: Vizion To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200510101817.52633.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> <200510121639.28479.gerrit@beine-computer.de> In-Reply-To: <200510121639.28479.gerrit@beine-computer.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 15:57:15 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200510161557.16072.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> Subject: Re: Zend Studio - some progress to report. X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 23:02:13 -0000 On Wednesday 12 October 2005 07:39, the author Gerrit Beine contributed to= =20 the dialogue on- Re: Zend Studio:=20 >Am Dienstag, 11. Oktober 2005 03:17 schrieben Sie: >> OK I am in touch with Zend and there is some hope that they may >> collaborate. >> >> I will let you know if/when I have something to report. >> >> The most interesting file is: >> ZendStudioClient-4.0.2-Linuxi386_plain.tar.gz >> I am working with Zend i9n the hope we might get that working. > >Hey, > >that would be great. >I like the ZendStudio and if it is possible to make it work again on > FreeBSD, I'll be really happy :-) > >So long... > >Gerrit OK Here is where we are at. I have reached agreement (see below) with Zend that they will assist in=20 building a freebsd port. The Zend development team is in Israel. The Zend=20 Studio's product manager will be liaising directly with us but he is going = to=20 be out of the office for two weeks. There have been a lot of communication= s=20 and the substance of them is summarized in the following copies: ******************************************************************* =46rom me to Zend: =09 I apologise for not making my understanding clear. My objective is to help, in the interests of everyone, to ease the path for= =20 freebsd users to use, and purchase, Zend studio without involving you in an= y=20 additional development work or testing. Freebsd users would not therefore=20 need you to provide support other than fixing bugs that are also replicable= =20 on linux. We therefore do not see a need for you to extend your QA beyond=20 ensuring it runs on linux. You may be asking how is that achievable? =46reebsd in /compat/linux/ extends full linux compatibility. In the freebs= d=20 community the ports maintainers are usually responsible for building and=20 maintaining the port from linux to freebsd To build the port we require a=20 limited amount of information. After the port is built, your support=20 obligation would be limited to dealing with bugs that are replicable on=20 linux. If there were questions relating to the port then freebsd users we receive= =20 assistance on the port via the freebsd ports maintainer. In that way you ge= t=20 the benefit of extending your potential user base and freebsd gains from it= s=20 users being able to run an extended range od applications. This is a win x= =20 win situation for everyone. How can we reach this desirable state? Because freebsd has linux compatibility building a port to freebsd for a li= nux=20 application should not require any modification to binaries unless the=20 developer has made the mistake of hardcoding external dependencies into the= =20 binary. To build the port for Zend all we ask you to do is supply us with a= =20 list of its dependencies and information about how we can configure the=20 application so that it able to find its its dependencies. The freebsd ports= =20 system checks to see that all dependcies are installed on the system, id no= t=20 dependencies are automatically built and installed, and that the=20 application's configuration file is amended accordingingly. If you could make a list of dependcies available and let me know how to=20 configure Zend so that it is able to locate any libraries or external=20 binaries it needs then I am sure we can build a working port simliar to the= =20 one we had for Zend 3.x It would be useful if we could have a single point of contact or email=20 address, in your development team with whom a freebsd port maintainer might= =20 be able to work. What do you think? Yours david ***************************************************************8 To which I have received the following reply: from Shahar Evron=20 =09 Hello David, No need to apologize - your point was clear and personally I am very happy = for=20 such initiatives - I was only trying to explain why Zend is having a hard=20 time helping anyone who wants to use Studio on FreeBSD. I think this can be excellent for the both of us - I have spoke about this= =20 with Zend Studio's product manager, and he also agrees that this is a win w= in=20 situation - he asked that you contact him at [I have withheld his email=20 address for obvious reasons here- david] and explain exactly what you need= =20 and he will try to help as much as possible. Please note that he will be ou= t=20 of the office for almost two weeks, but he asked that you write to him and = he=20 will try to answer when he gets back. I also suggest you to try out Zend Studio 5.0 beta - You can read more and= =20 download the beta version from=20 http://www.zend.com/store/products/zend-studio/beta.php - it might work=20 better than the 4.x branch. Please don't hesitate to contact us with any additional questions. *************************************8 here are my comments: 1. I do not have any experience of building or maintaining ports and feel=20 unqualified to undertake that task. Would someone, who is both capable and= =20 willing to come forward please come forward -- we need you.=20 2. I am willing to help in whatever way I can including testing. 3. It would be good if we could prepare an information request that can be= =20 sent to reach the Product manager in time for his return to the office. 4. I have tested the ZendStudio 5.0 beta and get the same result as I do wi= th=20 4.x 5. The standard package of Zend Studio 4.x installs the application but whe= n=20 one attempts to run Studio seems to be unable to load the debugging module.= =20 When I tried a Zend Studio version without an inbuilt jvm it progressed a=20 little further but still hunf up while trying to load the debugging routine. 6. My impression is that it is hung up either looking for a library or an=20 external binary. If you wish to help but do not want to go 'public' then please feel free to= =20 email me direct thanks david =2D-=20 40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Tauru= s. Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing bound for Europe via Panama Canal afte= r=20 completing engineroom refit. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 23:19:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C6016A421 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 23:19:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE16A43D49 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 23:19:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 8so752592nzo for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 16:19:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Qn2XJvoQhhCShq0Y5505LwuP4OqCXqT/LFWlRlkeUcqHVASWyamqhAgWSEg3cFq9dWImP3AMOKj5/yXXKhpzn+20e/WokshtJvKpPHsQVPXtlPr8wHbGRvTtR/GjbRtpbTpiWqvjCrRPXq8DbaxkbqIKr9QsfNo1FE9OHqmGP6Q= Received: by 10.37.15.41 with SMTP id s41mr2050843nzi; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 16:19:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.37.20.34 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 16:19:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 03:19:10 +0400 From: "Andrew P." To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <20051016195129.GA90311@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20051016195129.GA90311@xor.obsecurity.org> Cc: ports@freebsd.org, Sergey Matveychuk Subject: Re: Moviedb - broken or not? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 23:19:11 -0000 On 10/16/05, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 04:05:49PM +0400, Andrew P. wrote: > > Freshports say moviedb was unbroken this January. > > I tried installing it at different times on 4.x/5.x/6.x, > > but always got some kind of mistake. > > > > Today it was like this: > > > > # make > > > > # make install > > <...> > > Adding Distributor List... > > ...315653 read > > /usr/local/libexec/moviedb/mkdb -create > > *** Signal 11 > > > > Am I doing something wrong or is there a problem? > > No, this is the same problem I reported to the maintainer without > response many months ago. I'll mark it BROKEN again. > > Kris > > > Delete distfiles/moviedb/*, make fetch - but make sure, that the sources don't change while you're downloading. It'll work fine then. I've just tried it. The problem is, that the port doesn't check checksums at all. I think most of the "broken" reports are because of broken database sources. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 23:41:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2077016A41F for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 23:41:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A085343D46 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 23:41:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from 209-6-22-49.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.49]) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 16 Oct 2005 19:41:14 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,220,1125892800"; d="scan'208"; a="133254796:sNHT20465148" From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17234.58673.684665.757462@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:41:37 -0400 To: ports@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20051016221227.GB79135@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <200510161104.27533.krinklyfig@comcast.net> <20051016221227.GB79135@dragon.NUXI.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta22) "cucumber" (+CVS-20050913) XEmacs Lucid Cc: Subject: Re: lsof-4.76 build fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 23:41:21 -0000 David O'Brien writes: > The initial commit I made Saturday allowed me to build on a 6.0 > Beta. But building on 6.0 RC failed. Please update your system > to RELENG_6 and try again. Running: FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #1: Thu Sep 29 12:05:58 EDT 2005 with the lsof port updated 15 minutes ago, everything builds and installs. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 04:40:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 057E816A41F for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 04:40:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (nagual.pp.ru [194.87.13.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BD9B43D46 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 04:40:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (ache@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nagual.pp.ru (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9H4e5bZ011849 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 08:40:05 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j9H4e5ie011848 for ports@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 08:40:05 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 08:40:05 +0400 From: Andrey Chernov To: ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051017044005.GA11725@nagual.pp.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Andrey Chernov , ports@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: Subject: firefox: Xft + FreeType2, is it possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 04:40:08 -0000 1) When firefox is builded with Xft, font are smoothed, but no TTF fonts available (I use M$ core fonts), so pages rendered very ugly. Setting user_pref("font.FreeType2.enable", true); does nothing. 2) When firefox is builded without Xft, font are jagged sometimes, but TTF fonts available, so pages rendered nice. Setting user_pref("font.FreeType2.enable", true); cause segmentation fault after last TTF font loaded, but it is not needed, TTF fonts available even without this setting. Is it possible to have both works, i.e. smoothed fonts _and_ TTF? -- http://ache.pp.ru/ From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 04:44:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C530A16A41F; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 04:44:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (creme-brulee.marcuscom.com [24.172.16.118]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5F943D49; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 04:44:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from shumai.marcuscom.com (shumai.marcuscom.com [192.168.1.4]) by creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9H4iIXO026264; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 00:44:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) From: Joe Marcus Clarke To: Andrey Chernov In-Reply-To: <20051017044005.GA11725@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20051017044005.GA11725@nagual.pp.ru> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-2chlTmxc9BMAVlB/Oxlx" Organization: MarcusCom, Inc. Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 00:44:14 -0400 Message-Id: <1129524254.49644.5.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: firefox: Xft + FreeType2, is it possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 04:44:17 -0000 --=-2chlTmxc9BMAVlB/Oxlx Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 08:40 +0400, Andrey Chernov wrote: > 1) When firefox is builded with Xft, font are smoothed, but no TTF=20 > fonts available (I use M$ core fonts), so pages rendered very ugly.=20 > Setting > user_pref("font.FreeType2.enable", true); > does nothing. >=20 > 2) When firefox is builded without Xft, font are jagged sometimes, but TT= F=20 > fonts available, so pages rendered nice. Setting > user_pref("font.FreeType2.enable", true); > cause segmentation fault after last TTF font loaded, but it is not needed= , > TTF fonts available even without this setting. >=20 > Is it possible to have both works, i.e. smoothed fonts _and_ TTF? Absolutely. Just build with XFT support, and make sure your TTF fonts have been cached by fontconfig (i.e. make sure your font directory is listed /usr/X11R6/etc/fonts/fonts.conf, and you've recently run fc-cache -f -v). Joe --=20 PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc --=-2chlTmxc9BMAVlB/Oxlx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDUyweb2iPiv4Uz4cRAs4EAJwKTG8/n5zpGJDZ+fCOcY+hj4CdXQCbBTn5 twOCxsbL+euyWmPHWEuHHbA= =YgXt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-2chlTmxc9BMAVlB/Oxlx-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 05:49:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F4F16A41F for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 05:49:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spamrefuse@yahoo.com) Received: from web36210.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web36210.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.68.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9128443D4C for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 05:49:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spamrefuse@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 3724 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Oct 2005 05:49:39 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=1/t5cbrvgSGxBghfrgJqGSFhmCmWvjiK0lQTs3+JnUKbtIgxIda03thUer922SfGOH8MWiIwfEseqrORCXI4N6LRlZx/ZklGJEbDDOff6Vpc1YBTrueoHR8/a0ibjOiIDRaAYY1WKp3owC1PddnYj6YaIs5auw/pmuq8RaqAPEY= ; Message-ID: <20051017054939.3722.qmail@web36210.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [147.46.44.181] by web36210.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:49:39 PDT Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:49:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Rob To: gnome@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-723240320-1129528179=:114" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD Port: gtkextra-0.99.17_1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 05:49:40 -0000 --0-723240320-1129528179=:114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Id: Content-Disposition: inline Hi, Gtkextra has been upgraded a while ago. It's now at version 2.1.1. Attached is a kind of upgraded port, but it may still need tweaking of the pkg-plist file, because I don't understand what it says about 'manually tidying up' in the Porter's Handbook. Please have a look and upgrade the port soon. If this is an acceptable way of providing a port upgrade, I will follow up with an upgrade of the scigraphica port. Cheers, Rob. __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com --0-723240320-1129528179=:114-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 05:52:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EBA716A41F; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 05:52:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (creme-brulee.marcuscom.com [24.172.16.118]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6872A43D5A; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 05:52:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from shumai.marcuscom.com (shumai.marcuscom.com [192.168.1.4]) by creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9H5qRJH030917; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 01:52:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) From: Joe Marcus Clarke To: Rob In-Reply-To: <20051017054939.3722.qmail@web36210.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20051017054939.3722.qmail@web36210.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-B6bvCwJsXYyoQC0Q79Lb" Organization: MarcusCom, Inc. Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 01:52:24 -0400 Message-Id: <1129528344.49644.16.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: gnome@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Port: gtkextra-0.99.17_1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 05:52:26 -0000 --=-B6bvCwJsXYyoQC0Q79Lb Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2005-10-16 at 22:49 -0700, Rob wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Gtkextra has been upgraded a while ago. > It's now at version 2.1.1. >=20 > Attached is a kind of upgraded port, but it > may still need tweaking of the pkg-plist file, > because I don't understand what it says about > 'manually tidying up' in the Porter's Handbook. >=20 > Please have a look and upgrade the port soon. >=20 > If this is an acceptable way of providing a port > upgrade, I will follow up with an upgrade of the > scigraphica port. You should submit these upgrades in a PR. That way, it's easy to track, and we can actually see your patch (the mailing list ate your attachment). Joe --=20 PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc --=-B6bvCwJsXYyoQC0Q79Lb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDUzwYb2iPiv4Uz4cRAg3mAJ4u95DeuXOUHoBADk1xPPx3f2iE5gCfRSwa keXzriN2dOWk4eQK93K9Bmk= =ary6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-B6bvCwJsXYyoQC0Q79Lb-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 06:16:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8176516A420 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 06:16:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (nagual.pp.ru [194.87.13.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E4143D4C for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 06:16:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (ache@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nagual.pp.ru (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9H6GQGv013973; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 10:16:26 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j9H6GQEv013972; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 10:16:26 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 10:16:25 +0400 From: Andrey Chernov To: Joe Marcus Clarke Message-ID: <20051017061625.GA13905@nagual.pp.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Andrey Chernov , Joe Marcus Clarke , ports@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20051017044005.GA11725@nagual.pp.ru> <1129524254.49644.5.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9amGYk9869ThD9tj" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1129524254.49644.5.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: firefox: Xft + FreeType2, is it possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 06:16:28 -0000 --9amGYk9869ThD9tj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 12:44:14AM -0400, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > Absolutely. Just build with XFT support, and make sure your TTF fonts > have been cached by fontconfig (i.e. make sure your font directory is > listed /usr/X11R6/etc/fonts/fonts.conf, and you've recently run fc-cache > -f -v). Thanx for hint, the only mistake I made - I put my TTF fonts directory=20 outside of /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/, so fc-cache can't see it. Now it=20 works. --=20 http://ache.pp.ru/ --9amGYk9869ThD9tj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iQCVAwUBQ1NBueJgpPLZnQjrAQInigQAthOjqXm0IiK0XrTtQtCZa/5l0w2n8EeY RPy3OWpZevAveNw39TO+PqIWbvgs8tm0TPooRsGzy+NTZMBZ9eooygNA2GO1qCtp 5132Kiqaj9ELgTGSBEVNxNURlCNmLD23lNTn7u61zd14/qv+wpDPgnficudSeh5a HCnfKjujoPE= =zbGf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9amGYk9869ThD9tj-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 06:46:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3389516A41F; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 06:46:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mezz7@cox.net) Received: from centrmmtao04.cox.net (centrmmtao04.cox.net [70.168.83.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 847E643D46; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 06:46:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mezz7@cox.net) Received: from mezz.mezzweb.com ([68.103.32.140]) by centrmmtao04.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051017064623.YTQQ20851.centrmmtao04.cox.net@mezz.mezzweb.com>; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 02:46:23 -0400 To: "Andrey Chernov" References: <20051017044005.GA11725@nagual.pp.ru> <1129524254.49644.5.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20051017061625.GA13905@nagual.pp.ru> Message-ID: From: "Jeremy Messenger" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 01:47:18 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20051017061625.GA13905@nagual.pp.ru> User-Agent: Opera M2/8.50 (Linux, build 1358) Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: firefox: Xft + FreeType2, is it possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 06:46:53 -0000 On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 01:16:25 -0500, Andrey Chernov wrote: > On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 12:44:14AM -0400, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: >> Absolutely. Just build with XFT support, and make sure your TTF fonts >> have been cached by fontconfig (i.e. make sure your font directory is >> listed /usr/X11R6/etc/fonts/fonts.conf, and you've recently run fc-cache >> -f -v). > > Thanx for hint, the only mistake I made - I put my TTF fonts directory > outside of /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/, so fc-cache can't see it. Now it > works. x11-fonts/webfonts doesn't has what you need? Cheers, Mezz -- mezz7@cox.net - mezz@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD GNOME Team http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome/ - gnome@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 07:05:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE8F716A41F; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 07:05:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dawnshade@mail.ru) Received: from relay1.kaspersky-labs.com (relay1.kaspersky-labs.com [212.5.80.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC1CE43D49; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 07:05:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dawnshade@mail.ru) Received: from relay1.kaspersky-labs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay1.kaspersky-labs.com (ESMTP) with SMTP id 01CF4170DE; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:05:20 +0400 (MSD) Received: from antispam.localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay1.kaspersky-labs.com (ESMTP) with SMTP id 8C74D170F7; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:05:19 +0400 (MSD) Received: by relay1.kaspersky-labs.com (ESMTP, from userid 230) id 87872170F3; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:05:19 +0400 (MSD) Received: from avp_server2.avp.ru (mx.avp.ru [212.5.80.15]) by relay1.kaspersky-labs.com (ESMTP) with ESMTP id 79FB8170D4; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:05:19 +0400 (MSD) Received: from moscow2.avp.ru ([10.64.0.4]) by avp_server2.avp.ru with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:05:19 +0400 Received: from moscow.avp.ru ([10.64.0.3]) by moscow2.avp.ru with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:05:19 +0400 Received: from [172.16.128.10] ([172.16.128.10]) by moscow.avp.ru with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:05:19 +0400 From: dawnshade To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:04:57 +0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <200510161104.27533.krinklyfig@comcast.net> <20051016221227.GB79135@dragon.NUXI.org> <17234.58673.684665.757462@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <17234.58673.684665.757462@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510171104.58245.dawnshade@mail.ru> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Oct 2005 07:05:19.0001 (UTC) FILETIME=[2206C890:01C5D2E9] X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 2.0.0 [0125], KAS/Release X-Spamtest-Info: Pass through X-Anti-Virus: Kaspersky Anti-Virus for MailServers 5.5.2/RELEASE, bases: 17102005 #145215, status: clean Cc: ports@freebsd.org, Robert Huff Subject: Re: lsof-4.76 build fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 07:05:22 -0000 On Monday 17 October 2005 03:41, Robert Huff wrote: > > =A0The initial commit I made Saturday allowed me to build on a 6.0 > > =A0Beta. =A0But building on 6.0 RC failed. =A0Please update your system > > =A0to RELENG_6 and try again. > > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Running: > > FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #1: Thu Sep 29 12:05:58 EDT 2005 > > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0with the lsof port updated 15 minutes ago, everyt= hing builds and > installs. =3D=3D=3D> Building for lsof-4.76.1.1 (cd lib; make DEBUG=3D"-O" CFGF=3D"-pipe -march=3Dpentium-m -DHASEFFNLINK= =3Di_effnlink=20 =2DDHASF_VNODE -DHASCPUMASK_T -DHASSBSTATE -DHAS_KVM_VNODE -DHAS_UFS1_2=20 =2DDHAS_NO_SI_UDEV -DFREEBSDV=3D6000 -DHASFDESCFS=3D2 -DHASPSEUDOFS -DHASNU= LLFS=20 =2DDHAS9660FS -DHAS_NO_ISO_DEV -DHASIPv6 -DLSOF_VSTR=3D\"6.0-RC1\"") cc -pipe -march=3Dpentium-m -DHASEFFNLINK=3Di_effnlink -DHASF_VNODE=20 =2DDHASCPUMASK_T -DHASSBSTATE -DHAS_KVM_VNODE -DHAS_UFS1_2 -DHAS_NO_SI_UDEV= =20 =2DDFREEBSDV=3D6000 -DHASFDESCFS=3D2 -DHASPSEUDOFS -DHASNULLFS -DHAS9660FS= =20 =2DDHAS_NO_ISO_DEV -DHASIPv6 -DLSOF_VSTR=3D\"6.0-RC1\" -I/usr/src/sys -O -c= =20 dmnt.c dmnt.c: In function `dev2udev': dmnt.c:96: error: structure has no member named `si_inode' dmnt.c:186: error: structure has no member named `si_inode' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/lsof/work/lsof_4.77A.freebsd. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/lsof. /usr/ports/sysutils/lsof uname -a =46reeBSD dawnshade-note 6.0-RC1 FreeBSD 6.0-RC1 #0: Sat Oct 15 00:54:23 MS= D=20 2005 root@dawnshade-note:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/33 i386 From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 07:05:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE8F716A41F; 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make DEBUG=3D"-O" CFGF=3D"-pipe -march=3Dpentium-m -DHASEFFNLINK= =3Di_effnlink=20 =2DDHASF_VNODE -DHASCPUMASK_T -DHASSBSTATE -DHAS_KVM_VNODE -DHAS_UFS1_2=20 =2DDHAS_NO_SI_UDEV -DFREEBSDV=3D6000 -DHASFDESCFS=3D2 -DHASPSEUDOFS -DHASNU= LLFS=20 =2DDHAS9660FS -DHAS_NO_ISO_DEV -DHASIPv6 -DLSOF_VSTR=3D\"6.0-RC1\"") cc -pipe -march=3Dpentium-m -DHASEFFNLINK=3Di_effnlink -DHASF_VNODE=20 =2DDHASCPUMASK_T -DHASSBSTATE -DHAS_KVM_VNODE -DHAS_UFS1_2 -DHAS_NO_SI_UDEV= =20 =2DDFREEBSDV=3D6000 -DHASFDESCFS=3D2 -DHASPSEUDOFS -DHASNULLFS -DHAS9660FS= =20 =2DDHAS_NO_ISO_DEV -DHASIPv6 -DLSOF_VSTR=3D\"6.0-RC1\" -I/usr/src/sys -O -c= =20 dmnt.c dmnt.c: In function `dev2udev': dmnt.c:96: error: structure has no member named `si_inode' dmnt.c:186: error: structure has no member named `si_inode' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/lsof/work/lsof_4.77A.freebsd. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/lsof. /usr/ports/sysutils/lsof uname -a =46reeBSD dawnshade-note 6.0-RC1 FreeBSD 6.0-RC1 #0: Sat Oct 15 00:54:23 MS= D=20 2005 root@dawnshade-note:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/33 i386 From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 08:06:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D2B16A41F for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 08:06:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E655C43D48 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 08:06:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 8so798963nzo for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 01:06:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=GX9Mlveg66jm3LNaTBUTifvwOWQxqk7dy4FZN5wHvL0WVl+8YnRv1XzaMNadqdNwib8ziv5vWJTvaceagvWk93medoycHHQV7uWMM7ziFSradSYY2CvekRgc6Qn9fH3t3LMhBjbvZHEkglkklGgBUltZWRFf8nvxTTtrGATAvyc= Received: by 10.36.8.4 with SMTP id 4mr476910nzh; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 01:06:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.37.20.34 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 01:06:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 12:06:50 +0400 From: "Andrew P." To: ports@freebsd.org, novel@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: xmms-wma on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 08:06:51 -0000 There's a talk on questions: Vladimir Kushnir Sorry for intrusion but it DOES work [on amd64] (with some of WMAs, at least). What I've done was comment out ONLY_FOR_ARCHS line and then "make CC=3D'cc -fpic -DPIC'" was all. Bill Schoolcraft That was a very nice bit of information my friend, just saw the whole program compile [on amd64] as a result of your help. I thank you. :) From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 09:02:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D2DF16A41F; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 09:02:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hostmaster@vvi.at) Received: from kathi.vvi.at (kathi.vvi.at [208.252.225.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B23A43D66; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 09:02:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hostmaster@vvi.at) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (chello062178190051.2.15.vie.surfer.at [62.178.190.51]) (authenticated bits=0) by kathi.vvi.at (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9H918Ub019784; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 02:01:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hostmaster@vvi.at) Message-ID: <4353687E.2090106@vvi.at> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:01:50 +0200 From: VVI HOSTMASTER Organization: VVI.AT - Vista View Imagery of California User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ale@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms070103030701020501060804" X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0541-4, 10/16/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD Port: php5-5.0.5_1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 09:02:05 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms070103030701020501060804 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there a guide on how to install php from the ports. The method changed I was able to configure php before but now there seems to be a major change on how php is maintained on the FreeBSD ports. 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Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:39:41 +0200 (MEST) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:39:41 +0200 From: Tobias Roth To: VVI HOSTMASTER Message-ID: <20051017093941.GA26919@droopy.unibe.ch> References: <4353687E.2090106@vvi.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4353687E.2090106@vvi.at> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-message-flag: Warning! Using Outlook is insecure and promotes virus distribution. Please use a different email client. X-Virus-checked: by University of Berne Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Port: php5-5.0.5_1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 09:39:52 -0000 On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 11:01:50AM +0200, VVI HOSTMASTER wrote: > Is there a guide on how to install php from the ports. The method > changed I was able to configure php before but now there seems to be a > major change on how php is maintained on the FreeBSD ports. Could you > point me in the right direction? read the entry from 20040719 in /usr/ports/UPDATING cheers, t. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 09:57:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21FDF16A420 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 09:57:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spamrefuse@yahoo.com) Received: from web36208.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web36208.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.68.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 27BFF43D49 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 09:57:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spamrefuse@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 68013 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Oct 2005 09:57:31 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=pr8zRkSuaTtY2i/LdLGJMmL5T1SbN6hiDz/lE5961HDKJ8Sm3AR+jWyd+julDcs36v+2Qd1J20oqFeI2yVH69Ng2R+HrrT2+lN3yyMmJ0OvtJQVOYIGge67n0QMJrQwvlHzgRDgoaZ/QbRQimpH70tvvCH7uZxD624pAYLc3NiQ= ; Message-ID: <20051017095731.68011.qmail@web36208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [147.46.44.181] by web36208.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 02:57:31 PDT Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 02:57:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Rob To: Joe Marcus Clarke In-Reply-To: <1129528344.49644.16.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: gnome@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Port: gtkextra-0.99.17_1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 09:57:33 -0000 --- Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > On Sun, 2005-10-16 at 22:49 -0700, Rob wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Gtkextra has been upgraded a while ago. > > It's now at version 2.1.1. > > > > Attached is a kind of upgraded port, but it > > may still need tweaking of the pkg-plist file, > > because I don't understand what it says about > > 'manually tidying up' in the Porter's Handbook. > > > > Please have a look and upgrade the port soon. > > > > If this is an acceptable way of providing a port > > upgrade, I will follow up with an upgrade of the > > scigraphica port. > > You should submit these upgrades in a PR. That way, > it's easy to track, > and we can actually see your patch (the mailing list > ate your attachment). OK, done that; don't know if it then reaches the right person; let's see. The patch is now also here: http://surfion.snu.ac.kr/~lahaye/gtkextra.patch Cheers, Rob. __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 11:00:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B661A16A41F for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:00:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625C243D48 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:00:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9HB0d2q021278 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:00:39 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9HB0cHF021272 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:00:38 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:00:38 GMT Message-Id: <200510171100.j9HB0cHF021272@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD ports list Subject: Current unassigned ports problem reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:00:39 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The problem is understood and a solution is being sought. f - feedback Further work requires additional information from the originator or the community - possibly confirmation of the effectiveness of a proposed solution. p - patched A patch has been committed, but some issues (MFC and / or confirmation from originator) are still open. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on, due to lack of information or resources. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested -- or when fixing the problem is abandoned. Critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2005/10/16] ports/87525 ports-bugs [fix] misc/compat4x: amd64 unsupported 1 problem total. Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s [2002/04/07] ports/36846 ports-bugs fxtv 1.03 freezes the system when $LANG=d s [2003/05/11] ports/52079 ports-bugs vmware3 hangs when nmdm(4) is used as COM s [2004/12/08] ports/74857 ports-bugs clamav socket problem o [2005/05/01] ports/80514 ports-bugs emulators/vmware3: vmmon_smp.ko does not o [2005/05/29] ports/81631 ports-bugs new port: german/tvbrowser f [2005/06/21] ports/82498 ports-bugs xemacs spews 'X Error of failed..." whene o [2005/07/01] ports/82856 ports-bugs vmware3 port fails to compile on FreeBSD o [2005/07/30] ports/84358 ports-bugs net/edonkey-gui-gtk: fix plist, add updat o [2005/08/03] ports/84531 ports-bugs sysutils/i855vidctl10 and sysutils/915res f [2005/08/22] ports/85200 ports-bugs mail/postfix: db write part of /etc/spwd. f [2005/09/19] ports/86318 ports-bugs graphics/xfig 3.2.4_1 takes over cpu afte f [2005/09/27] ports/86642 ports-bugs portupgrade doesn't add MAKE_ARGS to inst f [2005/10/06] ports/86962 ports-bugs p5-DBI-Shell missing dbish from pkg-plist f [2005/10/16] ports/87530 ports-bugs [fix] games/HeroesOfMightAndMagic: amd64 o [2005/10/17] ports/87558 ports-bugs Zope Update to version 2.7.8 15 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s [2002/05/13] ports/38034 ports-bugs compaq-cc (under linux-emu) installes man s [2002/10/07] ports/43771 ports-bugs LaTeX ports mixed between print and textp o [2003/05/12] ports/52106 ports-bugs New port: java/javaws: Java Web Start 1.2 s [2003/10/02] ports/57502 ports-bugs ports that define USE_* too late s [2003/11/13] ports/59254 ports-bugs ports that write something after bsd.port s [2004/01/17] ports/61471 ports-bugs Suggested mini-patch to ports/graphics/sa s [2004/04/15] ports/65587 ports-bugs Update emulators/linux-winetools to 1.30 s [2004/05/25] ports/67192 ports-bugs mod_perl-related regressions in the newes s [2004/06/11] ports/67815 ports-bugs graphics/ImageMagick no longer recognizes s [2004/07/23] ports/69475 ports-bugs xemacs invalidly calls xargs (witj unexis s [2004/10/21] ports/72956 ports-bugs x11/dgs incorrectly marked as IGNORE p [2005/01/11] ports/76116 ports-bugs PORT UPDATE: graphics/lcms (with PATCH) f [2005/01/13] ports/76227 ports-bugs RLE support for graphics/fbm o [2005/01/17] ports/76365 ports-bugs NEW PORT net/xdb_auth_cpile A user auth/c o [2005/02/02] ports/76986 ports-bugs New port: print/pmx a pre-processor of Mu s [2005/02/13] ports/77453 ports-bugs [request] new port: print/ghostpcl o [2005/02/14] ports/77471 ports-bugs New port: Device driver for Voicetronix O o [2005/02/16] ports/77584 ports-bugs New ports: games/sear, games/sear-media. o [2005/02/24] ports/78012 ports-bugs [NEW PORT] net/abills: Billing system fro o [2005/03/14] ports/78830 ports-bugs New port: print/latex-auto-greek Auto-swi o [2005/03/15] ports/78898 ports-bugs new ports chinese/lumaqq: General QQ-like o [2005/03/19] ports/79021 ports-bugs New port: linux_base-fedora o [2005/03/20] ports/79049 ports-bugs New port net-mgmt/netdump-server:RedHat s o [2005/03/25] ports/79235 ports-bugs [maintainer update] sysutils/dtc: v0.17.0 o [2005/04/17] ports/80043 ports-bugs New port: devel/metaEnv CWI MetaEnvironme f [2005/04/23] ports/80274 ports-bugs GDB console problem (ddd-3.3.10 with Free f [2005/05/01] ports/80515 ports-bugs emulators/vmware3: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/vm o [2005/05/04] ports/80629 ports-bugs tuxracer segfaults on amd64 o [2005/05/17] ports/81153 ports-bugs [NEW PORT] chinese/DFSongSd: Chinese (HKS o [2005/06/13] ports/82200 ports-bugs [PATCH] sysutils/gkrelltop: gkrelltopd en s [2005/06/16] ports/82310 ports-bugs [new port] request: sysutils/initng o [2005/06/17] ports/82354 ports-bugs [NEW PORT] mail/mimetic: A GPL MIME libra o [2005/06/19] ports/82427 ports-bugs [NEW PORT] security/amavisd-milter: Milte o [2005/06/22] ports/82507 ports-bugs [new port] www/quixote-session2: quixote o [2005/06/28] ports/82726 ports-bugs New port: databases/sqlplus Oracle SQL*Pl f [2005/07/08] ports/83135 ports-bugs sysutils/smartmontools -- Does not work w s [2005/07/16] ports/83546 ports-bugs ftp/emirror port seems broken on 4.x o [2005/07/19] ports/83707 ports-bugs [NEW PORT] math/p5-Statistics-R: Controls o [2005/07/21] ports/83838 ports-bugs [NEW PORT] print/latex-circ: A LaTeX pack o [2005/07/22] ports/83894 ports-bugs Update port: devel/simpletest o [2005/07/22] ports/83912 ports-bugs New Port: sysutils/psgconf modular system o [2005/07/23] ports/83950 ports-bugs [NEW PORT] mail/squirrelmail-change_ldap- o [2005/07/24] ports/83986 ports-bugs New port www/p5-Apache2-DebugFilter o [2005/07/24] ports/83987 ports-bugs New port www/p5-Apache2-Filter-HTTPHeader f [2005/07/26] ports/84140 ports-bugs www/flashplugin-mozilla causes www/firefo f [2005/07/28] ports/84197 ports-bugs games/quake2forge cannot be built without o [2005/07/30] ports/84329 ports-bugs New port: x11-fonts/proggy_fonts a monosp s [2005/07/30] ports/84340 ports-bugs Request port update: /devel/fnccheck 1.2 o [2005/07/30] ports/84342 ports-bugs New port: security/klamav o [2005/07/31] ports/84376 ports-bugs [Update Port] x11-themes/kde-style-comix o [2005/08/02] ports/84501 ports-bugs update lang/oo2c o [2005/08/03] ports/84521 ports-bugs New port: sysutils/nctop f [2005/08/03] ports/84530 ports-bugs [New Port] net-mgmt/ourmon: Network Monit o [2005/08/04] ports/84561 ports-bugs [new port] audio/xmms2 o [2005/08/06] ports/84614 ports-bugs New port: java/eclipse-javasvn o [2005/08/06] ports/84625 ports-bugs New port: lang/twelf A meta-logical frame o [2005/08/10] ports/84741 ports-bugs Make ports/cad/tkgate use Tcl/Tk 8.4 o [2005/08/13] ports/84869 ports-bugs New port: textproc/regex-coach s [2005/08/14] ports/84921 ports-bugs [UPDATE] games/fargoal: update port and a o [2005/08/20] ports/85146 ports-bugs [Maintainer Update] emulators/e-uae to 0. f [2005/08/21] ports/85191 ports-bugs [PATCH] misc/linux-opengroupware o [2005/08/26] ports/85327 ports-bugs [NEW PORT] games/gngeo - NeoGeo emulator o [2005/08/29] ports/85429 ports-bugs New port: games/quake3 Quake III Arena -- f [2005/08/31] ports/85545 ports-bugs [new port] x11-themes/qt-polymer-theme o [2005/09/11] ports/85985 ports-bugs [NEW PORT] mail/couriergraph: A RRDtool f o [2005/09/14] ports/86098 ports-bugs [PATCH] devel/pear-PEAR/Makefile.common: f [2005/09/15] ports/86175 ports-bugs [UPDATE] games/quakeforge: minor changes, f [2005/09/15] ports/86176 ports-bugs [UPDATE] games/tenebrae: integrate with " f [2005/09/20] ports/86358 ports-bugs update www/py-beautifulsoup to 2.1.1 o [2005/09/21] ports/86394 ports-bugs [NEW PORT] graphics/crystalspace: Crystal o [2005/09/22] ports/86462 ports-bugs [NEW PORT] chinese/sdcv-dict-zh_TW: Engli f [2005/09/22] ports/86475 ports-bugs New Ports: devel/sfslite-noopt and devel/ f [2005/09/23] ports/86481 ports-bugs [PATCH] www/awstats: Respect user's PREFI f [2005/09/29] ports/86715 ports-bugs drupal missing dependency f [2005/09/30] ports/86766 ports-bugs [NEW PORT] games/ksudoku: 2D/3D Sudoku ga o [2005/10/02] ports/86843 ports-bugs [NEW PORT] graphics/crystalentitylayer: C f [2005/10/04] ports/86913 ports-bugs japanese/eb: Apply official patch o [2005/10/06] ports/86997 ports-bugs New port: games/oolite - clone of Elite s o [2005/10/08] ports/87128 ports-bugs New port: activeheart: nice KDE Window de o [2005/10/08] ports/87133 ports-bugs New port databases/p5-DBIx-DWIW A DBI wra o [2005/10/09] ports/87180 ports-bugs [UPDATE] games/quake2forge: integrate wit f [2005/10/11] ports/87239 ports-bugs Update port: audio/jack update to current f [2005/10/11] ports/87286 ports-bugs Update port: www/zope-cmfphoto update to o [2005/10/12] ports/87337 ports-bugs [NEW PORT] devel/SPE: Stani's Python Edit f [2005/10/12] ports/87339 ports-bugs Enable IPv6 support for multimedia/beep- o [2005/10/12] ports/87340 ports-bugs New port: games/tmw A free open source 2D f [2005/10/13] ports/87372 ports-bugs [www/phpbb] phpBB broken due to passing f f [2005/10/13] ports/87401 ports-bugs [UPDATE]: security/amap: up to version 5. f [2005/10/13] ports/87405 ports-bugs [PATCH] audio/libid3tag: update to 0.15.1 f [2005/10/13] ports/87415 ports-bugs [PATCH] audio/gtkpod: update to 0.94.0 f [2005/10/13] ports/87416 ports-bugs [PATCH] adapt lang/sbcl to PREFIX other t o [2005/10/15] ports/87491 ports-bugs New Port: databases/p5-exception-class-db f [2005/10/16] ports/87512 ports-bugs [patch] devel/distcc daemon cannot create o [2005/10/16] ports/87522 ports-bugs [NEW PORT] www/joomla: Content Management o [2005/10/16] ports/87541 ports-bugs Port audio/emu10kx: change location of sn o [2005/10/16] ports/87547 ports-bugs [maintainer-update] databases/pecl-PDO_OC o [2005/10/17] ports/87553 ports-bugs New Port: www/tablix Free software for so o [2005/10/17] ports/87555 ports-bugs [MAINTAINER-UPDATE] mail/dspam-devel o [2005/10/17] ports/87556 ports-bugs [patch] net/libnss-mysql cannot find mysq o [2005/10/17] ports/87560 ports-bugs Update port: net/sulci (to 0.5.a.20050918 o [2005/10/17] ports/87561 ports-bugs Maintainer update: comms/efax-gtk 3.0.6 o [2005/10/17] ports/87563 ports-bugs [MAINTAINER UPDATE] graphics/png2ico - re o [2005/10/17] ports/87564 ports-bugs Port upgrade: gtkextra-0.99.17_1 103 problems total. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 20:15:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA53416A41F; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 20:15:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com (dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com [68.99.120.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE29343D46; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 20:15:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dns1 ([64.58.171.82]) by dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051016201510.GXFS2325.dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com@dns1>; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 16:15:10 -0400 From: Vizion To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 13:10:12 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200510150015.j9F0ExKr085847@sakura.ninth-nine.com> <5739E97B-7EDC-4971-9EA5-01A44688A981@softweyr.com> <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> In-Reply-To: <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510161310.18807.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 12:55:22 +0000 Cc: Wes Peters , wes@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-eclipse@FreeBSD.org, mitsuru@riken.jp, tux@pinguru.net, Norikatsu Shigemura , rtdean@cytherianage.net, sugimura@jp.FreeBSD.ORG, Mark Linimon , Panagiotis Astithas , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 20:15:08 -0000 On Sunday 16 October 2005 03:20, the author Panagiotis Astithas contributed to the dialogue on- Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports: >Wes Peters wrote: >> On Oct 15, 2005, at 2:39 AM, Panagiotis Astithas wrote: >>> Mark Linimon wrote: >>>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 09:15:07PM -0700, Wes Peters wrote: >>>>> I don't mind moving the eclipse ports from java to devel, but all >>>>> the other eclipse ports are add-ins to eclipse and should probably >>>>> be classified along with eclipse. >>>> >>>> [adding freebsd-java to the Cc:] >>>> For some background, there's been on-and-off discussion on -java >>>> about how the java category was never really a good idea. None of >>>> the other languages have their own primary category. In particular >>>> we've completely failed to train our users to send 'java' PRs only >>>> for problems with the JVMs and 'ports' PRs for things in ports/java. >>>> >>>>> In particular, if eclipse is a 'devel' tool, I don't see how CDT >>>>> and phpeclipse are editors. GEF isn't a graphics library, it's a >>>>> graphical emulation framework for eclipse, which is (again) a >>>>> development tool. >>> >>> Although I agree with everything you say here, I can't see how this >>> is an argument against the fact that GEF and CDT most probably belong >>> to devel. Unless I'm mistaken and you were not making one? >> >> I was making an argument that regardless of where eclipse migrates too, >> all of it's little pieces should go right along with it, rather than >> getting spread all over the ports system. > >Since you snipped Mark's reply in your quote, let me clarify that my >comments above were directed to Mark and I agree with your point. >However I'm not sure whether there has to be a strict rule that every >eclipse-foo port should go in the same category. Perhaps the emacs >precedent should be followed. See below. > >Norikatsu Shigemura wrote: > > On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 09:14:59 +0900 (JST) > > > > Norikatsu Shigemura wrote: > >>Hi eclipse and eclipse related ports maintainers and users! > >> Some time ago, someone suggested that eclipse and eclipse > >> related ports should be located on proper categories. I > >> think so. So I suggest following repocopy list. Anyone, > >> do you have any idea? > > > > Oops, I missed. Eclipse is very similar to Emacs: > > 1. IDE > > Emacs is a one of IDE(or platform). And anyone doesn't > > think that it is ONLY a elisp interpreter. But it is > > a editor. So I think that it is no problem that Eclipse > > may be categolize to editors. > > > > 2. Extension-able > > Emacs has many extention modules like news reader, language > > support, games, ... > > > > 3. Mode > > Emacs has many mode for descriptions like C, Perl, Java, ... > > > > 4. others > > It must be that there are other similar feature:-). > > > > java/eclipse -> editors/eclipse > > java/eclipse-EPIC -> editors/eclipse-EPIC > > java/eclipse-cdt -> editors/eclipse-cdt > > java/eclipse-checkstyle -> devel/eclipse-checkstyle > > java/eclipse-clay-core -> databases/eclipse-clay-core > > java/eclipse-devel -> editors/eclipse-devel > > java/eclipse-emf -> editors/eclipse-emf > > java/eclipse-examples -> devel/eclipse-examples > > java/eclipse-gef -> editors/eclipse-gef > > java/eclipse-gef-examples -> editors/eclipse-gef-examples > > java/eclipse-langpack -> editors/eclipse-langpack > > java/eclipse-log4e -> editors/eclipse-log4e > > java/eclipse-lomboz -> devel/eclipse-lomboz > > java/eclipse-pmd -> devel/eclipse-pmd > > java/eclipse-quantum -> databases/eclipse-quantum > > java/eclipse-sqlexplorer -> databases/eclipse-sqlexplorer > > java/eclipse-sysdeo-tomcat -> www/eclipse-sysdeo-tomcat > > java/eclipse-uml -> editors/eclipse-uml > > java/eclipse-v4all -> editors/eclipse-v4all > > java/eclipse-vep -> editors/eclipse-vep > > java/eclipse-vep-examples -> editors/eclipse-vep-examples > > java/eclipse-viplugin -> editors/eclipse-viplugin > > java/eclipseme -> devel/eclipseme > > java/phpeclipse -> editors/phpeclipse > >This sounds fine, too. Sounds crazy to me... Scattering eclipse tools over the whole ports collections is, to my mind, a retrograde, rather than a positive step. There are another 290 pus eclipse tools to bring on board!! I would continue to advocate for a single collection david -- 40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Taurus. Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing bound for Europe via Panama Canal after completing engineroom refit. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 01:55:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CCF616A41F; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 01:55:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from smtp.omnis.com (smtp.omnis.com [216.239.128.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 247E943D49; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 01:55:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from [204.68.178.34] (cpe-66-75-60-23.san.res.rr.com [66.75.60.23]) by smtp-relay.omnis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 145572006885; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:55:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> References: <200510150015.j9F0ExKr085847@sakura.ninth-nine.com> <20051015053003.GB28137@soaustin.net> <4350CE50.8080704@ebs.gr> <5739E97B-7EDC-4971-9EA5-01A44688A981@softweyr.com> <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v734) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <1B8112AF-8C0E-4BA0-8D1C-DA6AD529F327@softweyr.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Wes Peters Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:55:25 -0700 To: Panagiotis Astithas X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.734) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 12:55:22 +0000 Cc: tux@pinguru.net, wes@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-eclipse@FreeBSD.org, mitsuru@riken.jp, Norikatsu Shigemura , rtdean@cytherianage.net, sugimura@jp.FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, Mark Linimon , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 01:55:28 -0000 On Oct 16, 2005, at 3:20 AM, Panagiotis Astithas wrote: > Wes Peters wrote: > >> On Oct 15, 2005, at 2:39 AM, Panagiotis Astithas wrote: >>> >>> Although I agree with everything you say here, I can't see how >>> this is an argument against the fact that GEF and CDT most >>> probably belong to devel. Unless I'm mistaken and you were not >>> making one? >>> >> I was making an argument that regardless of where eclipse >> migrates too, all of it's little pieces should go right along >> with it, rather than getting spread all over the ports system. > > Since you snipped Mark's reply in your quote, let me clarify that > my comments above were directed to Mark and I agree with your > point. However I'm not sure whether there has to be a strict rule > that every eclipse-foo port should go in the same category. Perhaps > the emacs precedent should be followed. See below. That's exactly the point I was (and am) trying to argue against. I have to resort to 'make search' to find emacs tools these days because they've been thrown all over the ports system by well-meaning but misguided contributors, and I'd hate to see that happen to eclipse tools too. As to devel vs. editors, eclipse is hardly a text editor. Emacs at least started that way. -- Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket? Wes Peters wes@softweyr.com From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 13:15:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 215A716A41F; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 13:15:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from matrix.gatewaynet.com (host2.dynacom.ondsl.gr [62.103.35.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B5A43D73; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 13:15:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from matrix.gatewaynet.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by matrix.gatewaynet.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j9HD9bSv031740; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:09:37 +0300 Received: from localhost (achill@localhost) by matrix.gatewaynet.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id j9HD9bPx031736; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:09:37 +0300 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:09:37 +0300 (EEST) From: Achilleus Mantzios To: Wes Peters In-Reply-To: <1B8112AF-8C0E-4BA0-8D1C-DA6AD529F327@softweyr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 13:16:20 +0000 Cc: tux@pinguru.net, wes@freebsd.org, freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org, mitsuru@riken.jp, Norikatsu Shigemura , rtdean@cytherianage.net, sugimura@jp.FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Mark Linimon , Panagiotis Astithas , freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 13:15:07 -0000 O Wes Peters Ýãñáøå óôéò Oct 16, 2005 : > > On Oct 16, 2005, at 3:20 AM, Panagiotis Astithas wrote: > > As to devel vs. editors, eclipse is hardly a text editor. Emacs at > least started that way. Perhaps i missed something, but why all that bother with eclipse, when (at least) all the java add-ons for it are easily managed by the tool itself? For possible JNI eclipse plugins (if any) a port definately makes sense but for the majority (java) i think the community over engineers the case instead of working on more vital issues of the operation system. I am not quoting directly any of the fellows participating in the discussion, i just grabbed the last email to write my lines. > > Wes Peters > wes@softweyr.com > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-java@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-java > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-java-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- -Achilleus From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 15:10:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5981516A41F for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:10:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from enrico.sirola@statpro.com) Received: from eru.aleph.it (eru.aleph.it [194.185.246.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D31AB43D46 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:10:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from enrico.sirola@statpro.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown [194.185.246.48]) by eru.aleph.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC702BC20 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:10:58 +0200 (CEST) Sender: sirolae@localhost.localdomain To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org From: enrico.sirola@gmail.com Date: 17 Oct 2005 17:10:05 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 39 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: autotools on freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: enrico.sirola@gmail.com List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:10:08 -0000 Hello, I'm going to use automake/libtool/autoconf on freebsd. The project is a library using libtool. I installed the autotools from the ports and defined the following environment variables: export AUTOCONF="/usr/local/bin/autoconf259" export AUTOHEADER="/usr/local/bin/autoheader259" export AUTOMAKE="/usr/local/bin/automake19" export ACLOCAL="/usr/local/bin/aclocal19" export AUTOPOINT="/usr/local/bin/autopoint" export LIBTOOLIZE="/usr/local/bin/libtoolize15" then I run autoreconf259 --force --install and I see the AC_PROG_LIBTOOL is undefined, so I guess the libtool15.m4 macro file is in the wrong directory. Running aclocal19 --print-ac-dir shows /usr/local/share/aclocal19 while libtools' macros are in /usr/local/share/aclocal What i've done in order to make aclocal happy is to add a dirlist file to /usr/local/share/aclocal19 containing /usr/local/share/aclocal, anyway I guess this isn't the right way to do things. What is the canonical way to use libtool on freebsd? Thanks in advance, enrico -- Enrico Sirola From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 15:30:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC57B16A420; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:30:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from herve.quiroz@esil.univ-mrs.fr) Received: from arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr (arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr [139.124.41.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0497F43D53; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:30:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from herve.quiroz@esil.univ-mrs.fr) Received: from arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9HFUOHp009594; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:30:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from herve.quiroz@esil.univ-mrs.fr) Received: (from rv@localhost) by arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j9HFUOX6009478; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:30:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from herve.quiroz@esil.univ-mrs.fr) X-Authentication-Warning: arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr: rv set sender to herve.quiroz@esil.univ-mrs.fr using -f Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:30:24 +0200 From: Herve Quiroz To: Wes Peters Message-ID: <20051017153024.GA23494@arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr> Mail-Followup-To: Wes Peters , Panagiotis Astithas , freebsd-eclipse@FreeBSD.org, Norikatsu Shigemura , freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, Mark Linimon , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org References: <200510150015.j9F0ExKr085847@sakura.ninth-nine.com> <20051015053003.GB28137@soaustin.net> <4350CE50.8080704@ebs.gr> <5739E97B-7EDC-4971-9EA5-01A44688A981@softweyr.com> <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> <1B8112AF-8C0E-4BA0-8D1C-DA6AD529F327@softweyr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1B8112AF-8C0E-4BA0-8D1C-DA6AD529F327@softweyr.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-eclipse@FreeBSD.org, Norikatsu Shigemura , freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, Mark Linimon , Panagiotis Astithas , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:30:27 -0000 [recipient list trimmed down] On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 06:55:25PM -0700, Wes Peters wrote: > That's exactly the point I was (and am) trying to argue against. I > have to resort to 'make search' to find emacs tools these days > because they've been thrown all over the ports system by well-meaning > but misguided contributors, and I'd hate to see that happen to > eclipse tools too. Greg (glewis@) already suggested to create a new *virtual* category for Eclipse ports to ease the search of a port. That could do the trick... Or else you may just use FreshPorts.org facilities to look for an Eclipse plugin: http://www.freshports.org/search.php?stype=name&method=match&query=eclipse&num=100&orderby=category&orderbyupdown=asc&search=Search Again, I don't think we should make an exception of Eclipse. All other ports comply to the convention and for instance there is no 'apache' non-virtual category. Regarding Apache, we are speaking of at least 116 'mod_*' ports while there are only 24 eclipse ports. Moreover, 'apache' is not even a virtual category. But that's probably because all 'mod_*' ports are in the same 'www' non-virtual category. So my take is that either we group all Eclipse ports into the same non-virtual category (but not a new 'eclipse' category which makes no sense) or we scater them but tag them by having them all in the 'eclipse' virtual category. Herve From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 15:37:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABE5416A41F for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:37:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matthias.andree@uni-dortmund.de) Received: from mail.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de (krusty.dt.E-Technik.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.163.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE89043D5A for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:37:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matthias.andree@uni-dortmund.de) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B33444E2; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:37:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (krusty [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04461-01; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:37:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [140.118.123.79] (shaka.et.ntust.edu.tw [140.118.123.79]) by mail.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D3F440A6; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:37:40 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4353C512.9060400@uni-dortmund.de> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:36:50 +0800 From: Matthias Andree User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: enrico.sirola@gmail.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: autotools on freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:37:46 -0000 enrico.sirola@gmail.com wrote: > Hello, > I'm going to use automake/libtool/autoconf on freebsd. The project is > a library using libtool. I installed the autotools from the ports and > defined the following environment variables: > > export AUTOCONF="/usr/local/bin/autoconf259" > export AUTOHEADER="/usr/local/bin/autoheader259" > export AUTOMAKE="/usr/local/bin/automake19" > export ACLOCAL="/usr/local/bin/aclocal19" > export AUTOPOINT="/usr/local/bin/autopoint" > export LIBTOOLIZE="/usr/local/bin/libtoolize15" > > then I run > > autoreconf259 --force --install I'll tell you a trick (I fell into the same pit before): the corresponding ports are named gnu-autoconf (and similar) and you need to add /usr/local/gnu-autotools/bin (or something similar, I don't recall the exact spelling off-hand, use pkginfo -L to figure) to your PATH variable. Then you can use the regular autoreconf and friends without suffix. Those with the 259 or 19 suffix are for the ports system, those with gnu- in the port name are for us programmers. It would be nice if this could be documented more clearly, or perhaps the auto* packages be renamed to ports-auto* and gnu-auto* to auto* to remove this confusion. I concede this is a larger change and cannot happen before 6.0. HTH, Matthias From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 15:49:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3703416A420; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:49:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dukecmmtao01.coxmail.com (dukecmmtao01.coxmail.com [68.99.120.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E2B43D55; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:48:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dns1 ([64.58.171.82]) by dukecmmtao01.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051017154906.VUNV7298.dukecmmtao01.coxmail.com@dns1>; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:49:06 -0400 From: Vizion To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 08:44:01 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200510150015.j9F0ExKr085847@sakura.ninth-nine.com> <1B8112AF-8C0E-4BA0-8D1C-DA6AD529F327@softweyr.com> <20051017153024.GA23494@arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr> In-Reply-To: <20051017153024.GA23494@arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510170844.06438.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> Cc: Wes Peters , freebsd-eclipse@FreeBSD.org, Norikatsu Shigemura , Mark Linimon , Herve Quiroz , Panagiotis Astithas , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:49:05 -0000 On Monday 17 October 2005 08:30, the author Herve Quiroz contributed to the dialogue on- Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports: >[recipient list trimmed down] > >On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 06:55:25PM -0700, Wes Peters wrote: >> That's exactly the point I was (and am) trying to argue against. I >> have to resort to 'make search' to find emacs tools these days >> because they've been thrown all over the ports system by well-meaning >> but misguided contributors, and I'd hate to see that happen to >> eclipse tools too. > >Greg (glewis@) already suggested to create a new *virtual* category for >Eclipse ports to ease the search of a port. That could do the trick... > >Or else you may just use FreshPorts.org facilities to look for an >Eclipse plugin: > >http://www.freshports.org/search.php?stype=name&method=match&query=eclipse&n >um=100&orderby=category&orderbyupdown=asc&search=Search > >Again, I don't think we should make an exception of Eclipse. All other >ports comply to the convention and for instance there is no 'apache' >non-virtual category. Regarding Apache, we are speaking of at least 116 >'mod_*' ports while there are only 24 eclipse ports. Moreover, 'apache' >is not even a virtual category. But that's probably because all 'mod_*' >ports are in the same 'www' non-virtual category. > >So my take is that either we group all Eclipse ports into the same >non-virtual category (but not a new 'eclipse' category which makes no >sense) or we scater them but tag them by having them all in the >'eclipse' virtual category. You guys just do not get it. I have spent over 45 five years in the computer industry and am fed up with technologists who think in terms of their precious systems rather than on behalf of people that use them. You do not get it that the ports systems, as currently configured, is out of date as far as the newly emerging framework centric applications model as against the traditional application centric model. e now need a category /ports/eclipse and not this ridiculous scattering arounf the system or some half hearted 'virtual' solution that gets in the way of a real framework centric solution. I am sick to death of hearing the same old appeal based on "mot making an exception" which really means "I want to bury my head in the sand" and stick to the old ways of doing things. And before anyone tells me -- yes I am angry. david > >Herve >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- 40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Taurus. Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing bound for Europe via Panama Canal after completing engineroom refit. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 15:51:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B41516A422; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:51:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com (dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com [68.99.120.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAEE543D49; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:51:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dns1 ([64.58.171.82]) by dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051017155150.RCGX2325.dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com@dns1>; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:51:50 -0400 From: Vizion To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 08:46:52 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200510150015.j9F0ExKr085847@sakura.ninth-nine.com> <20051017153024.GA23494@arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr> <200510170844.06438.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200510170844.06438.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510170846.55677.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> Cc: Wes Peters , Herve Quiroz , Norikatsu Shigemura , Panagiotis Astithas , Mark Linimon Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:51:47 -0000 On Monday 17 October 2005 08:44, the author Vizion contributed to the=20 dialogue on- Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports:=20 >On Monday 17 October 2005 08:30, =A0the author Herve Quiroz contributed to= the >dialogue on- > >=A0Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports: >>[recipient list trimmed down] >> >>On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 06:55:25PM -0700, Wes Peters wrote: >>> That's exactly the point I was (and am) trying to argue against. =A0I >>> have to resort to 'make search' to find emacs tools these days >>> because they've been thrown all over the ports system by well-meaning >>> but misguided contributors, and I'd hate to see that happen to >>> eclipse tools too. >> >>Greg (glewis@) already suggested to create a new *virtual* category for >>Eclipse ports to ease the search of a port. That could do the trick... >> >>Or else you may just use FreshPorts.org facilities to look for an >>Eclipse plugin: >> >>http://www.freshports.org/search.php?stype=3Dname&method=3Dmatch&query=3D= eclipse& >>n um=3D100&orderby=3Dcategory&orderbyupdown=3Dasc&search=3DSearch >> >>Again, I don't think we should make an exception of Eclipse. All other >>ports comply to the convention and for instance there is no 'apache' >>non-virtual category. Regarding Apache, we are speaking of at least 116 >>'mod_*' ports while there are only 24 eclipse ports. Moreover, 'apache' >>is not even a virtual category. But that's probably because all 'mod_*' >>ports are in the same 'www' non-virtual category. >> >>So my take is that either we group all Eclipse ports into the same >>non-virtual category (but not a new 'eclipse' category which makes no >>sense) or we scater them but tag them by having them all in the >>'eclipse' virtual category. > >You guys just do not get it. > >I have spent over 45 five years in the computer industry and am fed up with >technologists who think in terms of their precious systems rather than on >behalf of people that use them. > >You do not get it that the ports systems, as currently configured, is =A0o= ut > of date as far as the newly emerging framework centric applications model > as against the traditional application centric model. > >e now need a category /ports/eclipse and not this ridiculous scattering > arounf the system or some half hearted 'virtual' solution that gets in the > way of a real framework centric solution. > >I am sick to death of hearing the same old appeal based on "mot making an >exception" which really means "I want to bury my head in the sand" and sti= ck >to the old ways of doing things. > >And before anyone tells me -- yes I am angry. > >david > >>Herve >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- >40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. >English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V > Taurus. Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing bound for Europe via Panama > Canal after completing engineroom refit. =2D-=20 40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Tauru= s. Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing bound for Europe via Panama Canal afte= r=20 completing engineroom refit. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 16:01:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 966EA16A41F for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:01:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from novel@mxout.hispeed.ch) Received: from mxout.hispeed.ch (mxout.hispeed.ch [62.2.95.247]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB0C043D58 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:01:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from novel@mxout.hispeed.ch) Received: from localhost (ts1-a225.Saratov.dial.rol.ru [194.186.150.225]) (authenticated bits=0) by mxout.hispeed.ch (8.12.6/8.12.6/tornado-1.0) with ESMTP id j9HG1ejh022707; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:01:42 +0200 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:04:46 +0400 From: Roman Bogorodskiy To: "Andrew P." , Vladimir Kushnir , Bill Schoolcraft Message-ID: <20051017160446.GA16644@lame.novel.ru> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SUOF0GtieIMvvwua" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP: http://people.freebsd.org/~novel/novel.key.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.87, clamav-milter version 0.87 on smtp-01.tornado.cablecom.ch X-Virus-Status: Clean X-DCC-spamcheck-02.tornado.cablecom.ch-Metrics: smtp-01.tornado.cablecom.ch 32701; Body=4 Fuz1=4 Fuz2=4 Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xmms-wma on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:01:47 -0000 --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andrew wrote: > There's a talk on questions: >=20 >=20 > Vladimir Kushnir >=20 > Sorry for intrusion but it DOES work [on amd64] > (with some of WMAs, at least). What I've done was > comment out ONLY_FOR_ARCHS line and then > "make CC=3D'cc -fpic -DPIC'" was all. >=20 >=20 > Bill Schoolcraft >=20 > That was a very nice bit of information my friend, > just saw the whole program compile [on amd64] > as a result of your help. >=20 > I thank you. :) Thanks for reporting me about that. Unfortunately, I have no amd64 boxes to test it. It looks like you're proposing something like that: http://people.freebsd.org/~novel/patches/freebsd/port.xmms-wma.amd64.diff Could you please test it on amd64 and say me about the result? Roman Bogorodskiy --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iQCVAwUBQ1PLnoB0WzgdqspGAQKUrAQAiXX3Id12CaKhtcLv+9fLgIcKmFG+Zpxy N3OUMKnqZZEezh0APQaWobVjjjo9dXu1eoodaJc+f4Ego6wLD4gflIHS2497u0P7 GSCFTEeA0sdSzjIMUI7FAULcKgoMglVBMUDoykDXbfV1T3HSi5K3yRu7W+hJatGe hsNGeAPtYAY= =gXCM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 16:09:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B210E16A41F for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:09:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from enrico.sirola@statpro.com) Received: from eru.aleph.it (eru.aleph.it [194.185.246.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3680D43D46 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:09:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from enrico.sirola@statpro.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown [194.185.246.48]) by eru.aleph.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A7322BC6B; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:10:33 +0200 (CEST) Sender: sirolae@localhost.localdomain To: Matthias Andree References: <4353C512.9060400@uni-dortmund.de> Organization: StatPro Italia S.r.l. From: sirola@fisica.unige.it Date: 17 Oct 2005 18:09:38 +0200 In-Reply-To: <4353C512.9060400@uni-dortmund.de> Message-ID: Lines: 33 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: enrico.sirola@gmail.com, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: autotools on freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: sirola@fisica.unige.it List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:09:46 -0000 Hello Matthias, >>>>> "Matthias" == Matthias Andree writes: Matthias> I'll tell you a trick (I fell into the same pit before): Matthias> the corresponding ports are named gnu-autoconf (and Matthias> similar) and you need to add Matthias> /usr/local/gnu-autotools/bin (or something similar, I Matthias> don't recall the exact spelling off-hand, use pkginfo -L Matthias> to figure) to your PATH variable. Matthias> Then you can use the regular autoreconf and friends Matthias> without suffix. Those with the 259 or 19 suffix are for Matthias> the ports system, those with gnu- in the port name are Matthias> for us programmers. argh! I went out crazy! Thanks a lot for the trick :-) Matthias> It would be nice if this could be documented more Matthias> clearly, or perhaps the auto* packages be renamed to Matthias> ports-auto* and gnu-auto* to auto* to remove this Matthias> confusion. I concede this is a larger change and cannot Matthias> happen before 6.0. Maybe a few lines on the porters' handbook in order to explain that for non-port projects one should use /usr/local/gnu-autotools stuff would help a lot. Thanks again, e. -- Enrico Sirola From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 16:09:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE40D16A41F for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:09:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (nagual.pp.ru [194.87.13.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 363D543D46 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:09:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (ache@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nagual.pp.ru (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9HG9jFH021546; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:09:45 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j9HG9jui021545; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:09:45 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:09:45 +0400 From: Andrey Chernov To: Jeremy Messenger Message-ID: <20051017160945.GB21311@nagual.pp.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Andrey Chernov , Jeremy Messenger , ports@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20051017044005.GA11725@nagual.pp.ru> <1129524254.49644.5.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20051017061625.GA13905@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: firefox: Xft + FreeType2, is it possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:09:53 -0000 On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 01:47:18AM -0500, Jeremy Messenger wrote: > x11-fonts/webfonts doesn't has what you need? I use equivalent + tahoma font. BTW, webfonts's files.dir is very incomplete, there are no font style (panose) information at all and its encoding set is really small. -- http://ache.pp.ru/ From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 17:09:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F37516A41F for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:09:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1845E43D5F for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:09:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 8so865382nzo for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 10:09:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=daOEqZmFJf0nCLBybH7yis14PkLCxkcVCqKXxFYZRoVda9KZm7cP45pSmHgSYITxLhbei0LKzLS5I0zOv7mrI2eNZua8HSnWfIcvGPXfMYyIYtr8/LA7TwFQAx64FZF4Mi58GYr89t0Xq1RO8ANTUIoxHEMzIWTZzTBdfEboNzQ= Received: by 10.36.227.43 with SMTP id z43mr983199nzg; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 10:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.37.20.34 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 10:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:09:05 +0400 From: "Andrew P." To: Roman Bogorodskiy In-Reply-To: <20051017160446.GA16644@lame.novel.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20051017160446.GA16644@lame.novel.ru> Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xmms-wma on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:09:10 -0000 On 10/17/05, Roman Bogorodskiy wrote: > Andrew wrote: > > > There's a talk on questions: > > > > > > Vladimir Kushnir > > > > Sorry for intrusion but it DOES work [on amd64] > > (with some of WMAs, at least). What I've done was > > comment out ONLY_FOR_ARCHS line and then > > "make CC=3D'cc -fpic -DPIC'" was all. > > > > > > Bill Schoolcraft > > > > That was a very nice bit of information my friend, > > just saw the whole program compile [on amd64] > > as a result of your help. > > > > I thank you. :) > > Thanks for reporting me about that. Unfortunately, I have no amd64 boxes > to test it. It looks like you're proposing something like that: > http://people.freebsd.org/~novel/patches/freebsd/port.xmms-wma.amd64.diff > > Could you please test it on amd64 and say me about the result? > > Roman Bogorodskiy > > > From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 17:11:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F3616A41F for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:11:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA8A43D5A for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:10:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z31so1131302nzd for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 10:10:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=JBicfCTSD7jJ6gc3yOT9lpDfrVGnEgq58dnA6QhEIPwELNUq21WW9YciZSLKdUQfx2yTw+M/MvAU/bz7mhHdjVVaqIVNpM9w+1qH4O5Fdf7Xbi10C1Y6vmEDpzmmC3t86/xOZ/vbdAmglb68WiFtPySH21evISYjK7jPQiHhUPs= Received: by 10.36.127.14 with SMTP id z14mr1432907nzc; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 10:10:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.37.20.34 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 10:10:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:10:57 +0400 From: "Andrew P." To: Roman Bogorodskiy In-Reply-To: <20051017160446.GA16644@lame.novel.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20051017160446.GA16644@lame.novel.ru> Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xmms-wma on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:11:02 -0000 On 10/17/05, Roman Bogorodskiy wrote: > Andrew wrote: > > > There's a talk on questions: > > > > > > Vladimir Kushnir > > > > Sorry for intrusion but it DOES work [on amd64] > > (with some of WMAs, at least). What I've done was > > comment out ONLY_FOR_ARCHS line and then > > "make CC=3D'cc -fpic -DPIC'" was all. > > > > > > Bill Schoolcraft > > > > That was a very nice bit of information my friend, > > just saw the whole program compile [on amd64] > > as a result of your help. > > > > I thank you. :) > > Thanks for reporting me about that. Unfortunately, I have no amd64 boxes > to test it. It looks like you're proposing something like that: > http://people.freebsd.org/~novel/patches/freebsd/port.xmms-wma.amd64.diff > > Could you please test it on amd64 and say me about the result? > > Roman Bogorodskiy > > > Yeah, something like that, but it might be a good idea to test ARCH and add CFLAGS only in case it's amd64. I'm sorry, I don't have an amd64 box at hand, but 2 people reported it works, so it won't do any harm I think. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 17:23:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 442CF16A420 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:23:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD0AC43D5A for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:23:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 8so867397nzo for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 10:23:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=FmXYOzt2wWMOQjWv1wW4PRWc+wqE0adPC5/sqyWX0oTZAeV73YY/XEaMEXH4FCmZR1IcclDtn5kgFR297vrAA+LJxrSiMz4xpNHoKs6TvPJU4iv1+zzZkPhiMnQZGxG0hxE27Z1QXAnymasMxl9Z4rzNZNJQI1QJxGJPQAL4OEc= Received: by 10.36.127.5 with SMTP id z5mr2854848nzc; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 10:23:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.37.20.34 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 10:23:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:23:25 +0400 From: "Andrew P." To: Andrey Chernov , Jeremy Messenger , ports@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20051017160945.GB21311@nagual.pp.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20051017044005.GA11725@nagual.pp.ru> <1129524254.49644.5.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20051017061625.GA13905@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017160945.GB21311@nagual.pp.ru> Cc: Subject: Re: firefox: Xft + FreeType2, is it possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:23:28 -0000 On 10/17/05, Andrey Chernov wrote: > On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 01:47:18AM -0500, Jeremy Messenger wrote: > > x11-fonts/webfonts doesn't has what you need? > > I use equivalent + tahoma font. > > BTW, webfonts's files.dir is very incomplete, there are no font style > (panose) information at all and its encoding set is really small. > > -- > http://ache.pp.ru/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > True, but many of us here don't own a copy of Windows, so ripping fonts out of a Win installation is not an option. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 17:35:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D5EC16A424 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:35:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from novel@mxout.hispeed.ch) Received: from mxout.hispeed.ch (mxout.hispeed.ch [62.2.95.247]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F165D43D83 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:34:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from novel@mxout.hispeed.ch) Received: from localhost (ts1-a128.Saratov.dial.rol.ru [194.186.150.128]) (authenticated bits=0) by mxout.hispeed.ch (8.12.6/8.12.6/tornado-1.0) with ESMTP id j9HHYfpn019737; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:34:46 +0200 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:37:46 +0400 From: Roman Bogorodskiy To: "Andrew P." Message-ID: <20051017173746.GB16644@lame.novel.ru> References: <20051017160446.GA16644@lame.novel.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nVMJ2NtxeReIH9PS" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP: http://people.freebsd.org/~novel/novel.key.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.87, clamav-milter version 0.87 on smtp-08.tornado.cablecom.ch X-Virus-Status: Clean X-DCC-spamcheck-02.tornado.cablecom.ch-Metrics: smtp-08.tornado.cablecom.ch 32701; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xmms-wma on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:35:02 -0000 --nVMJ2NtxeReIH9PS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Andrew wrote: > Yeah, something like that, but it might be a good > idea to test ARCH and add CFLAGS only in case > it's amd64. Well, it doesn't look harmful to add it for all archs, does it? > I'm sorry, I don't have an amd64 box at hand, but > 2 people reported it works, so it won't do any > harm I think. Anyway, I'd like to wait for some feedback before committing it. :) Roman Bogorodskiy --nVMJ2NtxeReIH9PS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iQCVAwUBQ1PhaoB0WzgdqspGAQLvggP5AcC1CHdip4nbcLLN7GX3SJPWcHemyxXM dbyKZi9WC4rV7rskvUgtavxjfNPcBLf73r3FN+1jBwiMvv3WOEhiAxb4GARUsBZ/ mG1igZjaNupOY3n6g0QYVLUJjGwU0oRY/fgJb70QXCJ0Yvx+DOo5v2cMNRf5rGBx ErC3O424d/8= =Fscn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nVMJ2NtxeReIH9PS-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 17:56:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69CF516A41F for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:56:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (nagual.pp.ru [194.87.13.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B23D143D45 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:56:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (ache@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nagual.pp.ru (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9HHu8sg022657; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:56:08 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j9HHu8mo022656; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:56:08 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:56:07 +0400 From: Andrey Chernov To: "Andrew P." Message-ID: <20051017175607.GA22573@nagual.pp.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Andrey Chernov , "Andrew P." , Jeremy Messenger , ports@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20051017044005.GA11725@nagual.pp.ru> <1129524254.49644.5.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20051017061625.GA13905@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017160945.GB21311@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG, Jeremy Messenger Subject: Re: firefox: Xft + FreeType2, is it possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:56:15 -0000 On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 09:23:25PM +0400, Andrew P. wrote: > True, but many of us here don't own a copy of > Windows, so ripping fonts out of a Win installation > is not an option. I don't mean ripping, it is incomplete inside the free core fonts set. I don't mean number of fonts too, I mean font styles (pango) and encodings. -- http://ache.pp.ru/ From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 18:07:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0643A16A41F; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:07:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mezz7@cox.net) Received: from centrmmtao02.cox.net (centrmmtao02.cox.net [70.168.83.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 526CF43D48; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:07:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mezz7@cox.net) Received: from mezz.mezzweb.com ([68.103.32.140]) by centrmmtao02.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051017180722.HAJS21553.centrmmtao02.cox.net@mezz.mezzweb.com>; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:07:22 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 13:07:56 -0500 To: "Andrey Chernov" References: <20051017044005.GA11725@nagual.pp.ru> <1129524254.49644.5.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20051017061625.GA13905@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017160945.GB21311@nagual.pp.ru> From: "Jeremy Messenger" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20051017160945.GB21311@nagual.pp.ru> User-Agent: Opera M2/8.50 (Linux, build 1358) Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: firefox: Xft + FreeType2, is it possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:07:26 -0000 On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:09:45 -0500, Andrey Chernov wrote: > On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 01:47:18AM -0500, Jeremy Messenger wrote: >> x11-fonts/webfonts doesn't has what you need? > > I use equivalent + tahoma font. > > BTW, webfonts's files.dir is very incomplete, there are no font style > (panose) information at all and its encoding set is really small. fonts.dir if you mean.. It's how all tools (ttmkfdir and mkfontscale) created it. Before I committed webfonts, it only could create about 400 to 500 lines by ttmkfdir. I combined ttmkfdir and mkfontscale together a bit to make have more lines in fonts.dir up to over 600 lines. If there is anything missing, let me know and I can add more stuff in the fonts.dir. The maintainer has gave me the auto-approved to commit if webfonts is broke or missing stuff by my commit. Cheers, Mezz -- mezz7@cox.net - mezz@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD GNOME Team http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome/ - gnome@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 18:18:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BBE116A45B for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:18:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (nagual.pp.ru [194.87.13.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A51743D46 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:18:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (ache@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nagual.pp.ru (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9HIHx9i022898; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:17:59 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j9HIHxIK022897; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:17:59 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:17:59 +0400 From: Andrey Chernov To: Jeremy Messenger Message-ID: <20051017181759.GA22758@nagual.pp.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Andrey Chernov , Jeremy Messenger , ports@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20051017044005.GA11725@nagual.pp.ru> <1129524254.49644.5.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20051017061625.GA13905@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017160945.GB21311@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: firefox: Xft + FreeType2, is it possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:18:06 -0000 On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 01:07:56PM -0500, Jeremy Messenger wrote: > fonts.dir if you mean.. It's how all tools (ttmkfdir and mkfontscale) Yes. > If there is anything missing, let me know and I can add more stuff in the > fonts.dir. The maintainer has gave me the auto-approved to commit if > webfonts is broke or missing stuff by my commit. I use ttmkfdir -p + encodings.dir + all encodings ttmkfdir understands without dumping code to generate my one. See http://koi8.pp.ru/fonts.dir.gz 1) Strip out of there 'tahoma' lines (not part of webfonts) and reduce count. 2) Add adobe-standard, koi8-e, koi8-u and koi8-uni lines (although koi8-uni is non-standard and I doubt someoune use it) to not lose anything compared to webfonts's fonts.dir, increase count. I don't know, why they are not generated automatically by ttmkfdir. -- http://ache.pp.ru/ From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 18:18:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3870816A41F; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:18:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mezz7@cox.net) Received: from centrmmtao03.cox.net (centrmmtao03.cox.net [70.168.83.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D581743D49; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:18:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mezz7@cox.net) Received: from mezz.mezzweb.com ([68.103.32.140]) by centrmmtao03.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051017181750.HEED4942.centrmmtao03.cox.net@mezz.mezzweb.com>; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:17:50 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 13:18:55 -0500 To: Rob References: <20051017095731.68011.qmail@web36208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: "Jeremy Messenger" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20051017095731.68011.qmail@web36208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Opera M2/8.50 (Linux, build 1358) Cc: gnome@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Port: gtkextra-0.99.17_1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:18:26 -0000 On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 04:57:31 -0500, Rob wrote: > --- Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > >> On Sun, 2005-10-16 at 22:49 -0700, Rob wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > Gtkextra has been upgraded a while ago. >> > It's now at version 2.1.1. >> > >> > Attached is a kind of upgraded port, but it >> > may still need tweaking of the pkg-plist file, >> > because I don't understand what it says about >> > 'manually tidying up' in the Porter's Handbook. >> > >> > Please have a look and upgrade the port soon. >> > >> > If this is an acceptable way of providing a port >> > upgrade, I will follow up with an upgrade of the >> > scigraphica port. >> >> You should submit these upgrades in a PR. That way, >> it's easy to track, >> and we can actually see your patch (the mailing list >> ate your attachment). > > OK, done that; don't know if it then reaches the > right person; let's see. > > The patch is now also here: > http://surfion.snu.ac.kr/~lahaye/gtkextra.patch This patch doesn't look right. Isn't new gtkextra 2.x supposed to be depends on GTK2 instead GTK1? The plist doesn't look right too. I think, it might break other ports so it's best to have a repocopy from gtkextra -> gtkextra20, they don't conflict to the each others. Unless, you can update all other ports to use new gtkextra. Cheers, Mezz > Cheers, > Rob. -- mezz7@cox.net - mezz@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD GNOME Team http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome/ - gnome@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 18:19:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 733B316A41F for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:19:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (nagual.pp.ru [194.87.13.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0C343D45 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:19:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (ache@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nagual.pp.ru (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9HIJcG3022937; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:19:38 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j9HIJc6C022936; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:19:38 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:19:38 +0400 From: Andrey Chernov To: Jeremy Messenger , ports@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20051017181938.GB22758@nagual.pp.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Andrey Chernov , Jeremy Messenger , ports@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20051017044005.GA11725@nagual.pp.ru> <1129524254.49644.5.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20051017061625.GA13905@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017160945.GB21311@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017181759.GA22758@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051017181759.GA22758@nagual.pp.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: Subject: Re: firefox: Xft + FreeType2, is it possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:19:53 -0000 On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 10:17:59PM +0400, Andrey Chernov wrote: > 2) Add adobe-standard, koi8-e, koi8-u and koi8-uni lines (although > koi8-uni is non-standard and I doubt someoune use it) to not lose anything > compared to webfonts's fonts.dir, increase count. I don't know, why they > are not generated automatically by ttmkfdir. 3) Lowercase font names, I keep original case. -- http://ache.pp.ru/ From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 18:47:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A245016A41F; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:47:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59B1943D45; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:47:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 467951A3C24; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:47:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A5918511DB; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:47:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:47:05 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: dawnshade Message-ID: <20051017184705.GA92199@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <200510161104.27533.krinklyfig@comcast.net> <20051016221227.GB79135@dragon.NUXI.org> <17234.58673.684665.757462@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <200510171104.58245.dawnshade@mail.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="opJtzjQTFsWo+cga" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200510171104.58245.dawnshade@mail.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: ports@freebsd.org, Robert Huff , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lsof-4.76 build fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:47:06 -0000 --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 11:04:57AM +0400, dawnshade wrote: > On Monday 17 October 2005 03:41, Robert Huff wrote: > > > ?The initial commit I made Saturday allowed me to build on a 6.0 > > > ?Beta. ?But building on 6.0 RC failed. ?Please update your system > > > ?to RELENG_6 and try again. > > > > ????????Running: > > > > FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #1: Thu Sep 29 12:05:58 EDT 2005 > > > > ????????with the lsof port updated 15 minutes ago, everything builds and > > installs. >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D> Building for lsof-4.76.1.1 > (cd lib; make DEBUG=3D"-O" CFGF=3D"-pipe -march=3Dpentium-m -DHASEFFNLINK= =3Di_effnlink=20 > -DHASF_VNODE -DHASCPUMASK_T -DHASSBSTATE -DHAS_KVM_VNODE -DHAS_UFS1_2=20 > -DHAS_NO_SI_UDEV -DFREEBSDV=3D6000 -DHASFDESCFS=3D2 -DHASPSEUDOFS -DHASNU= LLFS=20 > -DHAS9660FS -DHAS_NO_ISO_DEV -DHASIPv6 -DLSOF_VSTR=3D\"6.0-RC1\"") > cc -pipe -march=3Dpentium-m -DHASEFFNLINK=3Di_effnlink -DHASF_VNODE=20 > -DHASCPUMASK_T -DHASSBSTATE -DHAS_KVM_VNODE -DHAS_UFS1_2 -DHAS_NO_SI_UDEV= =20 > -DFREEBSDV=3D6000 -DHASFDESCFS=3D2 -DHASPSEUDOFS -DHASNULLFS -DHAS9660FS= =20 > -DHAS_NO_ISO_DEV -DHASIPv6 -DLSOF_VSTR=3D\"6.0-RC1\" -I/usr/src/sys -O -c= =20 > dmnt.c > dmnt.c: In function `dev2udev': > dmnt.c:96: error: structure has no member named `si_inode' > dmnt.c:186: error: structure has no member named `si_inode' > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/lsof/work/lsof_4.77A.freebsd. > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/lsof. >=20 >=20 > /usr/ports/sysutils/lsof uname -a > FreeBSD dawnshade-note 6.0-RC1 FreeBSD 6.0-RC1 #0: Sat Oct 15 00:54:23 MS= D=20 > 2005 root@dawnshade-note:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/33 i386 You probably have stale headers installed or something, because I built it on a clean 6.0-RC1 system for the package builds. Kris --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDU/GpWry0BWjoQKURAv+zAJ414YyddIQjdPZufrqtOJlN0TTVrwCeLvu2 jCtW+Pd1zaAuSzjG5J31zeg= =bR1f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 18:47:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A245016A41F; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:47:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59B1943D45; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:47:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 467951A3C24; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:47:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A5918511DB; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:47:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:47:05 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: dawnshade Message-ID: <20051017184705.GA92199@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <200510161104.27533.krinklyfig@comcast.net> <20051016221227.GB79135@dragon.NUXI.org> <17234.58673.684665.757462@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <200510171104.58245.dawnshade@mail.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="opJtzjQTFsWo+cga" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200510171104.58245.dawnshade@mail.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: ports@freebsd.org, Robert Huff , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lsof-4.76 build fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:47:06 -0000 --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 11:04:57AM +0400, dawnshade wrote: > On Monday 17 October 2005 03:41, Robert Huff wrote: > > > ?The initial commit I made Saturday allowed me to build on a 6.0 > > > ?Beta. ?But building on 6.0 RC failed. ?Please update your system > > > ?to RELENG_6 and try again. > > > > ????????Running: > > > > FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #1: Thu Sep 29 12:05:58 EDT 2005 > > > > ????????with the lsof port updated 15 minutes ago, everything builds and > > installs. >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D> Building for lsof-4.76.1.1 > (cd lib; make DEBUG=3D"-O" CFGF=3D"-pipe -march=3Dpentium-m -DHASEFFNLINK= =3Di_effnlink=20 > -DHASF_VNODE -DHASCPUMASK_T -DHASSBSTATE -DHAS_KVM_VNODE -DHAS_UFS1_2=20 > -DHAS_NO_SI_UDEV -DFREEBSDV=3D6000 -DHASFDESCFS=3D2 -DHASPSEUDOFS -DHASNU= LLFS=20 > -DHAS9660FS -DHAS_NO_ISO_DEV -DHASIPv6 -DLSOF_VSTR=3D\"6.0-RC1\"") > cc -pipe -march=3Dpentium-m -DHASEFFNLINK=3Di_effnlink -DHASF_VNODE=20 > -DHASCPUMASK_T -DHASSBSTATE -DHAS_KVM_VNODE -DHAS_UFS1_2 -DHAS_NO_SI_UDEV= =20 > -DFREEBSDV=3D6000 -DHASFDESCFS=3D2 -DHASPSEUDOFS -DHASNULLFS -DHAS9660FS= =20 > -DHAS_NO_ISO_DEV -DHASIPv6 -DLSOF_VSTR=3D\"6.0-RC1\" -I/usr/src/sys -O -c= =20 > dmnt.c > dmnt.c: In function `dev2udev': > dmnt.c:96: error: structure has no member named `si_inode' > dmnt.c:186: error: structure has no member named `si_inode' > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/lsof/work/lsof_4.77A.freebsd. > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/lsof. >=20 >=20 > /usr/ports/sysutils/lsof uname -a > FreeBSD dawnshade-note 6.0-RC1 FreeBSD 6.0-RC1 #0: Sat Oct 15 00:54:23 MS= D=20 > 2005 root@dawnshade-note:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/33 i386 You probably have stale headers installed or something, because I built it on a clean 6.0-RC1 system for the package builds. Kris --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDU/GpWry0BWjoQKURAv+zAJ414YyddIQjdPZufrqtOJlN0TTVrwCeLvu2 jCtW+Pd1zaAuSzjG5J31zeg= =bR1f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 18:56:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 300FF16A420; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:56:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Jan.Grant@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC8AE43D8C; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:56:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Jan.Grant@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.16.62]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ERa9u-00005Z-Ge; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:56:32 +0100 Received: from cmjg (helo=localhost) by mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk with local-esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ERa9l-000141-Vc; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:56:22 +0100 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:56:21 +0100 (BST) From: Jan Grant X-X-Sender: cmjg@mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk To: Vizion In-Reply-To: <200510170844.06438.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> Message-ID: References: <200510150015.j9F0ExKr085847@sakura.ninth-nine.com> <1B8112AF-8C0E-4BA0-8D1C-DA6AD529F327@softweyr.com> <20051017153024.GA23494@arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr> <200510170844.06438.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: Jan Grant X-Spam-Score: -1.4 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: Wes Peters , freebsd-eclipse@FreeBSD.org, Norikatsu Shigemura , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Mark Linimon , Herve Quiroz , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:56:34 -0000 On Mon, 17 Oct 2005, Vizion wrote: > You guys just do not get it. > > I have spent over 45 five years in the computer industry and am fed up with > technologists who think in terms of their precious systems rather than on > behalf of people that use them. This is an open-source project; patches speak louder than words. There is a process outlined in the porters' handbook (that I've pointed you at before) for getting ports system rejigs to even be considered. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/makefile-categories.html#PROPOSING-CATEGORIES (Given the ability of existing tools to search for ports in "half-assed" virtual categories, I think you overstate your case.) Cheers, jan -- jan grant, ILRT, University of Bristol. http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk/ Tel +44 (0)117 3317661 http://ioctl.org/jan/ HP-unix: Open Sauce product, available in 57 distributions. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 19:48:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C6E216A41F; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:48:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mezz7@cox.net) Received: from centrmmtao01.cox.net (centrmmtao01.cox.net [70.168.83.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4C4B43D45; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:48:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mezz7@cox.net) Received: from mezz.mezzweb.com ([68.103.32.140]) by centrmmtao01.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051017194805.NNJI5336.centrmmtao01.cox.net@mezz.mezzweb.com>; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:48:05 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:48:51 -0500 To: "Andrey Chernov" References: <20051017044005.GA11725@nagual.pp.ru> <1129524254.49644.5.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20051017061625.GA13905@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017160945.GB21311@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017181759.GA22758@nagual.pp.ru> From: "Jeremy Messenger" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20051017181759.GA22758@nagual.pp.ru> User-Agent: Opera M2/8.50 (Linux, build 1358) Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: firefox: Xft + FreeType2, is it possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:48:21 -0000 On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 13:17:59 -0500, Andrey Chernov wrote: > On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 01:07:56PM -0500, Jeremy Messenger wrote: >> fonts.dir if you mean.. It's how all tools (ttmkfdir and mkfontscale) > > Yes. > >> If there is anything missing, let me know and I can add more stuff in >> the >> fonts.dir. The maintainer has gave me the auto-approved to commit if >> webfonts is broke or missing stuff by my commit. > > I use ttmkfdir -p + encodings.dir + all encodings ttmkfdir understands > without dumping code to generate my one. > See http://koi8.pp.ru/fonts.dir.gz > 1) Strip out of there 'tahoma' lines (not part of webfonts) and reduce > count. > 2) Add adobe-standard, koi8-e, koi8-u and koi8-uni lines (although > koi8-uni is non-standard and I doubt someoune use it) to not lose > anything > compared to webfonts's fonts.dir, increase count. I don't know, why they > are not generated automatically by ttmkfdir. Yeah, I always wondering why different tools don't give any same output while if merge them together and cause no problem. Anyway, can you test this patch to update webfonts? Thanks for fonts.dir; it increases to 914 from 625. http://people.freebsd.org/~mezz/diff/webfonts.diff Cheers, Mezz -- mezz7@cox.net - mezz@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD GNOME Team http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome/ - gnome@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 19:54:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7D5616A41F for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:54:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (nagual.pp.ru [194.87.13.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C11243D48 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:54:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (ache@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nagual.pp.ru (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9HJsLxC023923; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:54:21 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j9HJsLIP023922; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:54:21 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:54:21 +0400 From: Andrey Chernov To: Jeremy Messenger Message-ID: <20051017195421.GA23837@nagual.pp.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Andrey Chernov , Jeremy Messenger , ports@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20051017044005.GA11725@nagual.pp.ru> <1129524254.49644.5.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20051017061625.GA13905@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017160945.GB21311@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017181759.GA22758@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: firefox: Xft + FreeType2, is it possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:54:28 -0000 On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 02:48:51PM -0500, Jeremy Messenger wrote: > Yeah, I always wondering why different tools don't give any same output > while if merge them together and cause no problem. Anyway, can you test > this patch to update webfonts? Thanks for fonts.dir; it increases to 914 > from 625. > > http://people.freebsd.org/~mezz/diff/webfonts.diff The first problem I catch immediately: andalemo.ttf -monotype-andale mono-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-c-0-adobe-standard Should be: andalemo.ttf -monotype-andale mono-book-r-monospaced--0-0-0-0-m-0-adobe-standard (notice "book", "monospaced" and "m") ttmkfdir -p (pango) -- http://ache.pp.ru/ From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 19:55:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D535916A420; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:55:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com (dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com [68.99.120.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4527B43D48; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:55:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dns1 ([64.58.171.82]) by dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051017195547.XSJX2325.dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com@dns1>; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:55:47 -0400 From: Vizion To: Jan Grant Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 12:50:45 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200510150015.j9F0ExKr085847@sakura.ninth-nine.com> <200510170844.06438.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510171250.50481.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> Cc: Wes Peters , freebsd-eclipse@FreeBSD.org, Norikatsu Shigemura , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Mark Linimon , Herve Quiroz , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:55:44 -0000 On Monday 17 October 2005 11:56, the author Jan Grant contributed to the=20 dialogue on- Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports:=20 >On Mon, 17 Oct 2005, Vizion wrote: >> You guys just do not get it. >> >> I have spent over 45 five years in the computer industry and am fed up >> with technologists who think in terms of their precious systems rather >> than on behalf of people that use them. > >This is an open-source project; patches speak louder than words. There >is a process outlined in the porters' handbook (that I've pointed you at >before) for getting ports system rejigs to even be considered. > >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/makefile= =2Dc >ategories.html#PROPOSING-CATEGORIES > >(Given the ability of existing tools to search for ports in "half-assed" >virtual categories, I think you overstate your case.) > Sorry but those who think this way do not get it.. You cut out a highly significant part of my posting so I repeat it in full. >> I have spent over 45 five years in the computer industry and am fed up w= ith >>technologists who think in terms of their precious systems rather than on >>behalf of people that use them. Your response : > patches speak louder than words. Gives additional weight to my words. You are reinforcing my point. The=20 division between the perceptions of a technological old guard and the emrgi= ng=20 needs of a new breed of users whose attitudes come from a user's appreciati= on=20 of the extra-technological implications of technological changes. I would=20 argue that the technologist is always one step behind the consumer in=20 appreciating the realworld potential of the products of technology. =20 I saw microsoft meteoric rise just because those who were providing patches= =20 and code in the **ix fraternity would not listen to the demands of system=20 users. The technologist who thought in terms of system did not heed the nee= ds=20 of users.=20 The problem can be both identified and summarized by the notion of that=20 technological competence needs non-technological direction if it is going t= o=20 be produce results that are socially sustainable.=20 I would appreciate it if, in the light of the history of modern day computi= ng,=20 you would not so obviously seek to belittle the voices of those who do not= =20 see things through an internal FreeBSD methodolgical filter. >>You do not get it that the ports systems, as currently configured, is =A0= out=20 >>of date as far as the newly emerging framework centric applications model= =20 >>as against the traditional application centric model. =46ramework centric applications need their own hierarchy so that plugins c= an be=20 managed within the hierarchy. So my comment: >>We now need a category /ports/eclipse and not this ridiculous scattering =A0>>arounf the system or some half hearted 'virtual' solution that gets in= the =A0>>way of a real framework centric solution. Was, I feel, more apt than your response: >(Given the ability of existing tools to search for ports in "half-assed" >virtual categories, I think you overstate your case.) Which shows again how those who think that way do not get it. =20 The issue is not about searching it is about having a hierarchy that works = for=20 a framework centric processing model! Your response: >There is a process outlined in the porters' handbook (that I've pointed yo= u=20 > at before) for getting ports system rejigs to even be considered. Shows again do not get it. You do not think about user you are thinking abo= ut=20 users can be made to work with current internal regulatory processes. This= =20 approach can be seen as somewhat condescending. The user does not want to be embroiled in the process of determining how us= er=20 needs are to be met or weighed down by a bureaucracy that was devised to me= et=20 yesterday's problems. Those who maintain/create the bureaucracy need to fin= d=20 ways of usig their accumulated wisdom to help recreate and reconfigure rath= er=20 than demand that others jump through hoops.=20 It was the failure of the **ix community to modify its relationship to its= =20 users that led to the rise of the poorer technology of microsoft. =20 Those of us within the Freebsd community need to grasp the fact that the=20 future of comuting applications lies increasingly in common framework centr= ic=20 approaches to processing that encompass common developmental and applicatio= n=20 interfaces. hence division by application type (which is how ports are=20 categorized) is not the way to go. >>I am sick to death of hearing the same old appeal based on "mot making an >> exception" which really means "I want to bury my head in the sand" and=20 >>stick to the old ways of doing things. >>And before anyone tells me -- yes I am angry. And will probably stay angry until some of the old guard begin to get it an= d=20 not just in this area. I do not want FreeBSD to finish up as just another carrier for Linux=20 applications. It is not enough to satisfy our existing user base. It is not= =20 enough to stick to the ways things have been done in the past. The ports system is fantastic BUT it is now showing its age.=20 The freedsd docs system is incredibly good but it does not provide context= =20 driven help. The freebsd install system is good but it does not have a user ventric=20 installation process. The configuration system needs a web interface. If all our energies go towards increasing system functionality rather then= =20 identifying how we can catching up on user convenience then in the battle f= or=20 tomorrow's users we will lose out to competition. Will will finish up satisfying our technological impulses and losing touch= =20 with our potential place in tomorrow's world My two pennorth david =2D-=20 40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Tauru= s. Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing bound for Europe via Panama Canal afte= r=20 completing engineroom refit. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 20:05:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E477016A41F; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:05:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mezz7@cox.net) Received: from centrmmtao01.cox.net (centrmmtao01.cox.net [70.168.83.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2781B43D45; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:05:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mezz7@cox.net) Received: from mezz.mezzweb.com ([68.103.32.140]) by centrmmtao01.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051017200454.NTEE5336.centrmmtao01.cox.net@mezz.mezzweb.com>; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:04:54 -0400 To: "Andrey Chernov" References: <20051017044005.GA11725@nagual.pp.ru> <1129524254.49644.5.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20051017061625.GA13905@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017160945.GB21311@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017181759.GA22758@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017195421.GA23837@nagual.pp.ru> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:05:40 -0500 From: "Jeremy Messenger" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20051017195421.GA23837@nagual.pp.ru> User-Agent: Opera M2/8.50 (Linux, build 1358) Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: firefox: Xft + FreeType2, is it possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:05:10 -0000 On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:54:21 -0500, Andrey Chernov wrote: > On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 02:48:51PM -0500, Jeremy Messenger wrote: >> Yeah, I always wondering why different tools don't give any same output >> while if merge them together and cause no problem. Anyway, can you test >> this patch to update webfonts? Thanks for fonts.dir; it increases to 914 >> from 625. >> >> http://people.freebsd.org/~mezz/diff/webfonts.diff > > The first problem I catch immediately: > andalemo.ttf -monotype-andale > mono-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-c-0-adobe-standard > Should be: > andalemo.ttf -monotype-andale > mono-book-r-monospaced--0-0-0-0-m-0-adobe-standard > (notice "book", "monospaced" and "m") > > ttmkfdir -p (pango) What's the difference? How does it causes problem? mkfontscale and mkfontdir create the first one. You know what, I don't think I can add tahoma in fonts.dir....because webfonts doesn't install tahoma.ttf. I wasn't pay attention until I checked in cache and wondering why tahoma wasn't create in the cache that made me check in webfonts's plist and directory. Cheers, Mezz -- mezz7@cox.net - mezz@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD GNOME Team http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome/ - gnome@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 20:05:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8789D16A41F for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:05:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (nagual.pp.ru [194.87.13.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A0D43D46 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:05:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (ache@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nagual.pp.ru (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9HK5rOL024134; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:05:53 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j9HK5qqu024133; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:05:52 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:05:52 +0400 From: Andrey Chernov To: Jeremy Messenger , ports@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20051017200552.GA23979@nagual.pp.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Andrey Chernov , Jeremy Messenger , ports@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20051017044005.GA11725@nagual.pp.ru> <1129524254.49644.5.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20051017061625.GA13905@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017160945.GB21311@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017181759.GA22758@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017195421.GA23837@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051017195421.GA23837@nagual.pp.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: Subject: Re: firefox: Xft + FreeType2, is it possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:05:59 -0000 On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 11:54:21PM +0400, Andrey Chernov wrote: > The first problem I catch immediately: Second problem: you don't strip tahoma* (it is not part of core fonts): +tahoma.ttf -microsoft-tahoma-medium-r-even width--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-standard Third problem: webdings.ttf -microsoft-webdings-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 this old line is incorrect. There is no iso8859-1 in webdings. -- http://ache.pp.ru/ From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 20:13:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4597316A41F for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:13:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (nagual.pp.ru [194.87.13.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E351243D46 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:13:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (ache@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nagual.pp.ru (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9HKDAvD024239; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:13:10 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j9HKDARp024238; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:13:10 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:13:09 +0400 From: Andrey Chernov To: Jeremy Messenger Message-ID: <20051017201309.GA24171@nagual.pp.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Andrey Chernov , Jeremy Messenger , ports@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20051017044005.GA11725@nagual.pp.ru> <1129524254.49644.5.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20051017061625.GA13905@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017160945.GB21311@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017181759.GA22758@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017195421.GA23837@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: firefox: Xft + FreeType2, is it possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:13:19 -0000 On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 03:05:40PM -0500, Jeremy Messenger wrote: > What's the difference? How does it causes problem? mkfontscale and > mkfontdir create the first one. At least 'monospaced' make obvious difference for programs which search monospaced fonts, like firefox, etc. For "book" and "m" I don't exactly remember where they are used. ttmkfdir without -p option (and pango) simple can't fetch this information from the font and use standard (wrong) placeholders. In few words, the difference is correct/incorrect description of the minor font parameters. > You know what, I don't think I can add tahoma in fonts.dir....because I mention you need to strip it out under number 1) in some of my replies: > 1) Strip out of there 'tahoma' lines (not part of webfonts) and reduce > count. -- http://ache.pp.ru/ From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 20:28:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42DB616A41F; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:28:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mezz7@cox.net) Received: from centrmmtao04.cox.net (centrmmtao04.cox.net [70.168.83.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8889C43D49; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:28:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mezz7@cox.net) Received: from mezz.mezzweb.com ([68.103.32.140]) by centrmmtao04.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051017202827.FYBV20851.centrmmtao04.cox.net@mezz.mezzweb.com>; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:28:27 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:29:29 -0500 To: "Andrey Chernov" References: <20051017044005.GA11725@nagual.pp.ru> <1129524254.49644.5.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20051017061625.GA13905@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017160945.GB21311@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017181759.GA22758@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017195421.GA23837@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017201309.GA24171@nagual.pp.ru> From: "Jeremy Messenger" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20051017201309.GA24171@nagual.pp.ru> User-Agent: Opera M2/8.50 (Linux, build 1358) Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: firefox: Xft + FreeType2, is it possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:28:58 -0000 On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:13:09 -0500, Andrey Chernov wrote: > On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 03:05:40PM -0500, Jeremy Messenger wrote: >> What's the difference? How does it causes problem? mkfontscale and >> mkfontdir create the first one. > > At least 'monospaced' make obvious difference for programs which search > monospaced fonts, like firefox, etc. For "book" and "m" I don't exactly > remember where they are used. > > ttmkfdir without -p option (and pango) simple can't fetch this > information > from the font and use standard (wrong) placeholders. > > In few words, the difference is correct/incorrect description of the > minor font parameters. Ok, do that to all of "andalemo.ttf[...]" lines? or just one line that you showed? Cheers, Mezz >> You know what, I don't think I can add tahoma in fonts.dir....because > > I mention you need to strip it out under number 1) in some of my replies: >> 1) Strip out of there 'tahoma' lines (not part of webfonts) and reduce >> count. -- mezz7@cox.net - mezz@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD GNOME Team http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome/ - gnome@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 20:30:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C77B316A41F for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:30:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (nagual.pp.ru [194.87.13.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDF8C43D53 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:30:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (ache@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nagual.pp.ru (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9HKUilC024427; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:30:44 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j9HKUi0W024426; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:30:44 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:30:43 +0400 From: Andrey Chernov To: Jeremy Messenger , ports@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20051017203043.GA24378@nagual.pp.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Andrey Chernov , Jeremy Messenger , ports@FreeBSD.ORG References: <1129524254.49644.5.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20051017061625.GA13905@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017160945.GB21311@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017181759.GA22758@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017195421.GA23837@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017201309.GA24171@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051017201309.GA24171@nagual.pp.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: Subject: Re: firefox: Xft + FreeType2, is it possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:30:50 -0000 On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 12:13:09AM +0400, Andrey Chernov wrote: > ttmkfdir without -p option (and pango) simple can't fetch this information > from the font and use standard (wrong) placeholders. And mkfontscale can't too for the same reason. They all need pango to look so deep inside TTF font. -- http://ache.pp.ru/ From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 20:34:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D7BC16A41F for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:34:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (nagual.pp.ru [194.87.13.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 581D643D7E for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:34:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (ache@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nagual.pp.ru (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9HKYYWE024513; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:34:34 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j9HKYYH7024512; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:34:34 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:34:34 +0400 From: Andrey Chernov To: Jeremy Messenger Message-ID: <20051017203434.GB24378@nagual.pp.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Andrey Chernov , Jeremy Messenger , ports@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20051017061625.GA13905@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017160945.GB21311@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017181759.GA22758@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017195421.GA23837@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017201309.GA24171@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: firefox: Xft + FreeType2, is it possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:34:55 -0000 On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 03:29:29PM -0500, Jeremy Messenger wrote: > Ok, do that to all of "andalemo.ttf[...]" lines? or just one line that you > showed? All lines, and not andalemo.ttf only but almost for all fonts :-( As I initially say, it is much easy to lowercase filenames in my variant, strip tahoma and add missing encodings from webfonts's fonts.dir than to try in opposite direction, i.e. merge my variant inside webfonts's fonts.dir -- http://ache.pp.ru/ From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 21:22:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA6C16A41F; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:22:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mezz7@cox.net) Received: from centrmmtao05.cox.net (centrmmtao05.cox.net [70.168.83.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 941F643D46; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:22:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mezz7@cox.net) Received: from mezz.mezzweb.com ([68.103.32.140]) by centrmmtao05.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051017212140.PQEA16814.centrmmtao05.cox.net@mezz.mezzweb.com>; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:21:40 -0400 To: "Andrey Chernov" References: <20051017061625.GA13905@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017160945.GB21311@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017181759.GA22758@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017195421.GA23837@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017201309.GA24171@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017203434.GB24378@nagual.pp.ru> Message-ID: From: "Jeremy Messenger" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:22:32 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20051017203434.GB24378@nagual.pp.ru> User-Agent: Opera M2/8.50 (Linux, build 1358) Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: firefox: Xft + FreeType2, is it possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:22:02 -0000 On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:34:34 -0500, Andrey Chernov wrote: > On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 03:29:29PM -0500, Jeremy Messenger wrote: >> Ok, do that to all of "andalemo.ttf[...]" lines? or just one line that >> you >> showed? > > All lines, and not andalemo.ttf only but almost for all fonts :-( > > As I initially say, it is much easy to lowercase filenames in my variant, > strip tahoma and add missing encodings from webfonts's fonts.dir than to > try in opposite direction, i.e. merge my variant inside webfonts's > fonts.dir How about update one? http://people.freebsd.org/~mezz/diff/webfonts.diff Cheers, Mezz -- mezz7@cox.net - mezz@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD GNOME Team http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome/ - gnome@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 21:28:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31BC316A41F; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:28:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neuhauser@sigpipe.cz) Received: from isis.sigpipe.cz (fw.sigpipe.cz [62.245.70.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31A9C43D6A; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:27:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neuhauser@sigpipe.cz) Received: by isis.sigpipe.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B7D1E1F87BFD; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:27:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:27:48 +0200 From: Roman Neuhauser To: Wes Peters , Panagiotis Astithas , freebsd-eclipse@FreeBSD.org, Norikatsu Shigemura , freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, Mark Linimon , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20051017212748.GD71766@isis.sigpipe.cz> Mail-Followup-To: Wes Peters , Panagiotis Astithas , freebsd-eclipse@FreeBSD.org, Norikatsu Shigemura , freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, Mark Linimon , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org References: <200510150015.j9F0ExKr085847@sakura.ninth-nine.com> <20051015053003.GB28137@soaustin.net> <4350CE50.8080704@ebs.gr> <5739E97B-7EDC-4971-9EA5-01A44688A981@softweyr.com> <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> <1B8112AF-8C0E-4BA0-8D1C-DA6AD529F327@softweyr.com> <20051017153024.GA23494@arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051017153024.GA23494@arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:28:01 -0000 # herve.quiroz@esil.univ-mrs.fr / 2005-10-17 17:30:24 +0200: > [recipient list trimmed down] > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 06:55:25PM -0700, Wes Peters wrote: > > That's exactly the point I was (and am) trying to argue against. I > > have to resort to 'make search' to find emacs tools these days > > because they've been thrown all over the ports system by well-meaning > > but misguided contributors, and I'd hate to see that happen to > > eclipse tools too. > > Greg (glewis@) already suggested to create a new *virtual* category for > Eclipse ports to ease the search of a port. That could do the trick... Wes said: "I have to resort to 'make search'" which presumably means he'd prefer to just ls /usr/ports/$emacs_category; while 'make search' is a bearable interface (FMPOV), you can't beat a ls. Hey, what about materialized virtual categories? A bunch of symlinks, and everyone's happy. Or is that too much for CVS? -- How many Vietnam vets does it take to screw in a light bulb? You don't know, man. You don't KNOW. Cause you weren't THERE. http://bash.org/?255991 From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 21:39:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AD6916A41F for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:39:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (nagual.pp.ru [194.87.13.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55BFC43D83 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:39:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (ache@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nagual.pp.ru (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9HLdpPk025175; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:39:51 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j9HLdph9025174; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:39:51 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:39:51 +0400 From: Andrey Chernov To: Jeremy Messenger Message-ID: <20051017213951.GA25074@nagual.pp.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Andrey Chernov , Jeremy Messenger , ports@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20051017160945.GB21311@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017181759.GA22758@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017195421.GA23837@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017201309.GA24171@nagual.pp.ru> <20051017203434.GB24378@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: firefox: Xft + FreeType2, is it possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:39:58 -0000 On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 04:22:32PM -0500, Jeremy Messenger wrote: > How about update one? > > http://people.freebsd.org/~mezz/diff/webfonts.diff Looks Ok. -- http://ache.pp.ru/ From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 21:40:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1F0316A428; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:40:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vkushnir@i.kiev.ua) Received: from horse.iptelecom.net.ua (horse.iptelecom.net.ua [212.9.224.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A4DC43D86; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:40:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vkushnir@i.kiev.ua) Received: from h54.243.159.dialup.iptcom.net ([213.159.243.54]:39654 "EHLO kushnir1.kiev.ua" ident: "SOCKFAULT1" whoson: "vkushnir") by horse.iptelecom.net.ua with ESMTP id S1219472AbVJQVkA (ORCPT + 1 other); Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:40:00 +0300 Received: from kushnir1.kiev.ua (kushnir1.kiev.ua [10.0.0.1]) by kushnir1.kiev.ua (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9HLdwXk007720; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:39:58 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from vkushnir@i.kiev.ua) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:39:58 +0300 (EEST) From: Vladimir Kushnir X-X-Sender: vkushnir@kushnir1.kiev.ua To: Roman Bogorodskiy In-Reply-To: <20051017160446.GA16644@lame.novel.ru> Message-ID: <20051018003336.V1230@kushnir1.kiev.ua> References: <20051017160446.GA16644@lame.novel.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Vladimir Kushnir , ports@freebsd.org, "Andrew P." , Bill Schoolcraft Subject: Re: xmms-wma on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:40:15 -0000 Hi Roman, On Mon, 17 Oct 2005, Roman Bogorodskiy wrote: > Andrew wrote: > >> There's a talk on questions: >> >> >> Vladimir Kushnir >> >> Sorry for intrusion but it DOES work [on amd64] >> (with some of WMAs, at least). What I've done was >> comment out ONLY_FOR_ARCHS line and then >> "make CC='cc -fpic -DPIC'" was all. >> >> >> Bill Schoolcraft >> >> That was a very nice bit of information my friend, >> just saw the whole program compile [on amd64] >> as a result of your help. >> >> I thank you. :) > > Thanks for reporting me about that. Unfortunately, I have no amd64 boxes > to test it. It looks like you're proposing something like that: > http://people.freebsd.org/~novel/patches/freebsd/port.xmms-wma.amd64.diff > > Could you please test it on amd64 and say me about the result? > For me, it works (patch doesn't apply cleanly but the method is precisely the same) for audio/bmp-wma. With audio/xmms-wma it somehow doesn't pick up CFLAGS :-( Regards, Vladimir From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 22:05:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB0716A421 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:05:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from swhetzel@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C36743D48 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:05:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from swhetzel@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t13so799433wxc for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:05:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=b4ilNI8vSoL4K69W7TR+Q6jr4HWmUeGecPf72tVZ4hbzjAgXfAoqdW1Sq5mTFVAsWfEtZ2ULYl+SFv1FiQlGdnfkapvxo4GJxSAevdDdyXakUgCLYoljEOySW9d3Lb4VG7z1rmIPz+u0zjcScCZ5V8DS411yt7Ws/dhMFXQBcxs= Received: by 10.70.75.15 with SMTP id x15mr2588813wxa; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:05:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.53.4 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:05:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <790a9fff0510171505i4010cc05yc30f67d459d1a0e4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:05:18 -0500 From: Scot Hetzel To: Wes Peters , freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-java@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20051017212748.GD71766@isis.sigpipe.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200510150015.j9F0ExKr085847@sakura.ninth-nine.com> <20051015053003.GB28137@soaustin.net> <4350CE50.8080704@ebs.gr> <5739E97B-7EDC-4971-9EA5-01A44688A981@softweyr.com> <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> <1B8112AF-8C0E-4BA0-8D1C-DA6AD529F327@softweyr.com> <20051017153024.GA23494@arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr> <20051017212748.GD71766@isis.sigpipe.cz> Cc: Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:05:21 -0000 On 10/17/05, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > Wes said: "I have to resort to 'make search'" which presumably means > he'd prefer to just ls /usr/ports/$emacs_category; while 'make > search' is a bearable interface (FMPOV), you can't beat a ls. > > Hey, what about materialized virtual categories? A bunch of > symlinks, and everyone's happy. Or is that too much for CVS? > It would probably be too much for CVS to handle, instead someone could modify bsd.port.mk to create the virtual category directories and then symbolicly link the ports into these categories. The following could be added to bsd.port.mk virtualport: .for CATEGORY in ${CATEGORIES} .if not exist ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY} mkdir ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY} .endif .if not exist ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY}/${PORTNAME} ln -s ${.CURDIR} ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY}/${PORTNAME} .endif .endfor which would add the link for a specific port. The we would need to add a virtualports target (bsd.subdir.mk?) that would decend thru all the ports creating all the symbolic links (similar to the "make readmes" target used in /usr/ports/ ). Also there would need to be another target that would remove all the symbolic links, that way you could re-create them without worrying about removed symbolic links pointing to non-existant ports. NOTE: Non of this code has been tested. If you want this feature, work on improving the code and submitting it as a patch to the PR database for Ports Managers to accept/reject. Scot -- DISCLAIMER: No electrons were mamed while sending this message. Only slightly bruised. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 22:07:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5CED16A41F; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:07:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neuhauser@sigpipe.cz) Received: from isis.sigpipe.cz (fw.sigpipe.cz [62.245.70.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC05943D46; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:07:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neuhauser@sigpipe.cz) Received: by isis.sigpipe.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BF8151F87C03; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:07:12 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:07:12 +0200 From: Roman Neuhauser To: Joe Marcus Clarke Message-ID: <20051017220712.GE71766@isis.sigpipe.cz> Mail-Followup-To: Joe Marcus Clarke , freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org References: <421C1A19.5060805@freebsd.org> <421C3BF5.70803@freebsd.org> <200502230935.24944.josemi@freebsd.jazztel.es> <200502231141.29161.josemi@freebsd.jazztel.es> <421CC2FE.2080105@FreeBSD.org> <20050223183454.GA23400@isis.wad.cz> <421CD069.8030408@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <421CD069.8030408@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: [OLD] windows-style shortcuts in mozilla [was: Re: Thunderbird no longer viewing http URLs] X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:07:14 -0000 # marcus@FreeBSD.org / 2005-02-23 13:50:17 -0500: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Roman Neuhauser wrote: > | # marcus@FreeBSD.org / 2005-02-23 12:53:02 -0500: > | > |>Jose M Rodriguez wrote: > |>| - make gnomevfs enabled in the default firefox/thunderbird build. > |>| > |>| I honest think that this is the way to go, even for non-gnome users. > |> > |>I'm not so sure non-GNOME users will agree with you here. I support > |>your first two ideas, but I think making gnomevfs2 a mandatory > |>dependency will piss off a lot of people. > | > | > | That reminds me: will the mozilla port grow a switch to fix the MS > | Windows-style keyboard shortcuts? The history window is completely > | useless for me, especially as it's stole my backspace (dtto [and > | with a much deadlier effect] for ^W, and other Emacs-style > | bindings). > | > > No, but a workaround for this has been discussed numerous times on > freebsd-gnome@. Do you have a subject quote so I don't have to *read* half a year of emails? I just searched the subjects, and saw nothing that would look relevant (neither was any of the ~20 suspicious emails I read). -- How many Vietnam vets does it take to screw in a light bulb? You don't know, man. You don't KNOW. Cause you weren't THERE. http://bash.org/?255991 From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 22:21:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9437D16A41F for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:21:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lambert@lambertfam.org) Received: from sysmon.tcworks.net (sysmon.tcworks.net [65.66.76.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2452243D48 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:21:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lambert@lambertfam.org) Received: from sysmon.tcworks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sysmon.tcworks.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9HMLjYC034163 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:21:45 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lambert@lambertfam.org) Received: (from lambert@localhost) by sysmon.tcworks.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j9HMLjbt034162 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:21:45 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lambert@lambertfam.org) X-Authentication-Warning: sysmon.tcworks.net: lambert set sender to lambert@lambertfam.org using -f Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:21:45 -0500 From: Scott Lambert To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051017222145.GA2840@sysmon.tcworks.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <200510150015.j9F0ExKr085847@sakura.ninth-nine.com> <20051015053003.GB28137@soaustin.net> <4350CE50.8080704@ebs.gr> <5739E97B-7EDC-4971-9EA5-01A44688A981@softweyr.com> <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> <1B8112AF-8C0E-4BA0-8D1C-DA6AD529F327@softweyr.com> <20051017153024.GA23494@arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr> <20051017212748.GD71766@isis.sigpipe.cz> <790a9fff0510171505i4010cc05yc30f67d459d1a0e4@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <790a9fff0510171505i4010cc05yc30f67d459d1a0e4@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: devnull@sysmon.tcworks.net List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:21:46 -0000 On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 05:05:18PM -0500, Scot Hetzel wrote: > The following could be added to bsd.port.mk > > virtualport: > .for CATEGORY in ${CATEGORIES} > .if not exist ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY} > mkdir ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY} > .endif > .if not exist ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY}/${PORTNAME} > ln -s ${.CURDIR} ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY}/${PORTNAME} > .endif > .endfor > > which would add the link for a specific port. The we would need to > add a virtualports target (bsd.subdir.mk?) that would decend thru all > the ports creating all the symbolic links (similar to the "make > readmes" target used in /usr/ports/ ). The inodes, man! The inodes!!!! Sorry, couldn't resist. -- Scott Lambert KC5MLE Unix SysAdmin lambert@lambertfam.org From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 22:27:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1F8A16A41F; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:27:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com (dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com [68.99.120.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 256B843D45; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:27:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dns1 ([64.58.171.82]) by dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051017222715.BFRY2325.dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com@dns1>; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:27:15 -0400 From: Vizion To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:22:14 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200510150015.j9F0ExKr085847@sakura.ninth-nine.com> <20051017212748.GD71766@isis.sigpipe.cz> <790a9fff0510171505i4010cc05yc30f67d459d1a0e4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <790a9fff0510171505i4010cc05yc30f67d459d1a0e4@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510171522.17180.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org, Wes Peters , Scot Hetzel , freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:27:10 -0000 On Monday 17 October 2005 15:05, the author Scot Hetzel contributed to the dialogue on- Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports: >On 10/17/05, Roman Neuhauser wrote: >> Wes said: "I have to resort to 'make search'" which presumably means >> he'd prefer to just ls /usr/ports/$emacs_category; while 'make >> search' is a bearable interface (FMPOV), you can't beat a ls. >> >> Hey, what about materialized virtual categories? A bunch of >> symlinks, and everyone's happy. Or is that too much for CVS? > >It would probably be too much for CVS to handle, instead someone could >modify bsd.port.mk to create the virtual category directories and then >symbolicly link the ports into these categories. > >The following could be added to bsd.port.mk > >virtualport: >.for CATEGORY in ${CATEGORIES} >.if not exist ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY} > mkdir ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY} >.endif >.if not exist ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY}/${PORTNAME} > ln -s ${.CURDIR} ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY}/${PORTNAME} >.endif >.endfor > >which would add the link for a specific port. The we would need to >add a virtualports target (bsd.subdir.mk?) that would decend thru all >the ports creating all the symbolic links (similar to the "make >readmes" target used in /usr/ports/ ). > >Also there would need to be another target that would remove all the >symbolic links, that way you could re-create them without worrying >about removed symbolic links pointing to non-existant ports. > >NOTE: Non of this code has been tested. If you want this feature, work >on improving the code and submitting it as a patch to the PR database >for Ports Managers to accept/reject. > >Scot Would this provide an opportunity to have for example: /usr/ports/eclipse /usr/ports/eclipse/plugins/ so that the plugins could be selected for installation from make config in /usr/ports and manage the installation of the plugins (rather similar to what happens for php)? david >-- >DISCLAIMER: >No electrons were mamed while sending this message. Only slightly bruised. >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- 40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Taurus. Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing bound for Europe via Panama Canal after completing engineroom refit. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 23:17:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E54C16A41F for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:17:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from edwin@mavetju.org) Received: from mail3out.barnet.com.au (mail3out.barnet.com.au [202.83.176.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8449C43D45 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:17:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from edwin@mavetju.org) Received: by mail3out.barnet.com.au (Postfix, from userid 27) id C3C01877D2B; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:17:35 +1000 (EST) X-Viruscan-Id: <4354310F0001401E84C722@BarNet> Received: from mail3-auth.barnet.com.au (mail3.barnet.com.au [202.83.176.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.barnet.com.au", Issuer "BarNet Root Certificate Authority" (verified OK)) by mail3.barnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C682877CB4 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:17:35 +1000 (EST) Received: from k7.mavetju (edwin-3.int.barnet.com.au [10.10.12.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "edwin.adsl.barnet.com.au", Issuer "BarNet Root Certificate Authority" (not verified)) by mail3-auth.barnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D500877D22 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:17:28 +1000 (EST) Received: by k7.mavetju (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6AED3650F; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:16:57 +1000 (EST) Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 3.01 (F2.73; A1.66; B3.05; Q3.03) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:16:57 UT From: Edwin Groothuis To: ports@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20051017231657.6AED3650F@k7.mavetju> Cc: Subject: [FreeBSD Ports Version Check] Newer available versions for ports you maintain X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:17:38 -0000 Dear ports@freebsd.org, As maintainer of one or more FreeBSD ports, I would like to inform you that a new version is available for the following port(s): Port Current version New version URLs ------------------------------------ --------------- ----------- ---- astro/orsa 0.6.2 0.7.0 [1] audio/jack 0.99.0 0.100.0 [2] audio/rioutil 1.4.6 1.4.7 [3] audio/sbagen 1.0.8 1.0.9 [4] audio/solfege 3.0.2 3.0.3 [5] audio/sweep 0.8.3 0.8.4 [6] chinese/oto 0.4 0.5 [7] chinese/wenju 1.3 1.4 [8] databases/pydbdesigner 0.1.3 0.1.4 [9] deskutils/ganttproject 1.10.1 1.10.2 [10] deskutils/kdissert 1.0.4 1.0.5 [11] deskutils/krss 2.6 3.0 [12] devel/adacurses 5.3 5.4 [13] devel/allegro 4.1.12 4.1.13 [14] devel/commoncpp 1.3.13 1.3.14 [15] devel/cvslines 1.6.8 1.6.9 [16] devel/flowdesigner 0.8.2 0.9.0 [17] devel/id-utils 3.2d 4.0 [18] devel/libdsp 4.6.0 5.0.0 [19] devel/libsigcx 0.6.4 0.6.5 [20] devel/make++ 1.18 1.19 [21] devel/mingw-bin-msvcrt 1.2 1.3 [22] devel/naturaldocs 1.34 1.35 [23] devel/ocaml-camomile 0.5.3 0.6.0 [24] devel/ocaml-sdl 0.7.1 0.7.2 [25] devel/open-beagle 2.2.0 3.0.0 [26] devel/pth 2.0.4 2.0.5 [27] devel/py-ciphon 0.3.5 0.4.0 [28] devel/re2c 0.9.7 0.9.8 [29] devel/zthread 2.3.1 2.3.2 [30] editors/gmanedit 0.3.1 0.3.2 [31] editors/the 3.1 3.2 [32] emulators/minivmac 0.1.7 1.0.0 [33] finance/ktoblzcheck 1.0 1.1 [34] finance/quantlib 0.3.5 0.3.6 [35] ftp/jftp 1.45 1.46 [36] ftp/rexx-curl 1.3 1.4 [37] games/lincity 1.12.1 1.13.0 [38] games/ltris 1.0.10 1.0.11 [39] games/rtb 1.0.7 1.0.8 [40] games/xabacus 7.1.4 7.1.5 [41] graphics/djvulibre 3.5.14 3.5.15 [42] graphics/djvulibre-nox11 3.5.14 3.5.15 [43] graphics/flphoto 1.1 1.2 [44] graphics/gnofract4d 2.6 2.7 [45] graphics/imgseek 0.8.3 0.8.4 [46] graphics/ivtools 1.2.1 1.2.2 [47] graphics/libexif-gtk 0.3.4 0.3.5 [48] graphics/mesagl 5.0.1 5.0.2 [49] graphics/osgedit 0.5.0 0.5.1 [50] graphics/osgedit 0.5.0 0.6.0 [51] graphics/py-opengl 2.0.1.07 2.0.1.08 [52] graphics/tif22pnm 0.11 0.12 [53] graphics/truevision 0.5.4 0.5.5 [54] irc/ngircd 0.9.1 0.9.2 [55] irc/xchat 1.8.11 1.9.0 [56] japanese/ebview 0.2.1 0.3.0 [57] japanese/lyx 1.0.3 1.1.0 [58] japanese/scim-tables 0.5.1 0.5.2 [59] japanese/wikicker 0.26 0.27 [60] java/classpath 0.17 0.18 [61] java/jcommon 0.9.5 0.9.6 [62] java/jfreechart 0.9.20 0.9.21 [63] java/jgrapht 0.5.3 0.6.0 [64] korean/scim-tables 0.5.1 0.5.2 [65] lang/ferite 0.99.6 1.0.0 [66] lang/otcl 1.9 1.10 [67] lang/php-mode.el 1.1.0 1.2.0 [68] lang/sisc 1.9.7 1.9.8 [69] lang/tinycobol 0.62 0.63 [70] mail/asmail 1.7 1.8 [71] mail/elmo 1.2.0 1.3.0 [72] mail/gmime 1.0.8 2.0.0 [73] mail/gmime2 2.1.16 2.1.17 [74] mail/mahogany 0.65 0.66 [75] mail/spruce 0.6.5 0.7.0 [76] math/PDL 2.4.1 2.4.2 [77] math/algae 4.3.0 4.3.1 [78] math/gri 2.12.1 2.12.2 [79] math/it++ 3.8.0 3.8.1 [80] math/plplot 5.5.2 5.5.3 [81] math/py-matplotlib 0.80 0.81 [82] math/rpy 0.3.5 0.3.6 [83] math/rpy 0.3.5 0.4.0 [84] math/scigraphica 0.8.0 1.0.0 [85] math/yacas 1.0.58 1.0.59 [86] misc/documancer 0.2.3 0.2.4 [87] misc/help2man 1.35.1 1.35.2 [88] misc/iselect 1.3.0 1.3.1 [89] misc/jbidwatcher 0.9.5 0.9.6 [90] misc/kcd 7.6.1 7.7.0 [91] misc/latex-mk 1.3 1.4 [92] multimedia/gopchop 1.0.0 1.1.0 [93] net-mgmt/icmpmonitor 1.1 1.2 [94] net-mgmt/pixilate 0.4.1 0.4.2 [95] net-mgmt/tcpreplay 2.2.2 2.3.0 [96] net/gnome-btdownload 0.0.20 0.0.21 [97] net/gnunet 0.6.6b 0.7.0 [98] net/gtkyahoo 0.18.2 0.18.3 [99] net/icqlib0 0.1.3 1.0.0 [100] net/java-beepcore 0.9.07 0.9.08 [101] net/kmess 1.3 1.4 [102] net/py-msnp 0.4.0 0.4.1 [103] net/samba 2.2.12 3.0.0 [104] net/sharity-light 1.2 1.3 [105] net/tik 0.89 0.90 [106] net/tramp 2.1.3 2.1.4 [107] net/ulxmlrpcpp 1.4.6 1.4.7 [108] net/wmlj 0.3.2 0.4.0 [109] news/newsfish 1.2.5 1.2.6 [110] print/epsonepl 0.2.2 0.3.0 [111] print/ghostscript-afpl 8.51 8.52 [112] print/ghostscript-afpl-nox11 8.51 8.52 [113] print/lout 3.30 3.31 [114] print/pcal 4.8.0 4.9.0 [115] print/scribus 1.2.3 1.3.0 [116] security/mussh 0.5 0.6 [117] sysutils/fileschanged 0.6.0 0.6.1 [118] sysutils/portmanager 0.2.9 0.3.0 [119] sysutils/sjog 0.5 0.6 [120] sysutils/xfce4-fsguard-plugin 0.2.0 0.2.1 [121] sysutils/xlogmaster 1.6.0 1.6.1 [122] textproc/dictfmt 1.10.0 1.10.1 [123] textproc/p5-Spork 0.19 0.20 [124] textproc/p5-Tk-XMLViewer 0.15 0.16 [125] textproc/txt2html 2.42 2.43 [126] www/coppermine 1.3.3 1.3.4 [127] www/coppermine 1.3.3 1.4.0 [128] www/htmlobject 2.26 2.27 [129] www/jetty 4.2.20 4.2.21 [130] www/jetty 4.2.20 5.0.0 [131] www/p5-Apache-Filter 1.022 1.023 [132] www/p5-Apache-PageKit 1.09 1.10 [133] www/p5-Apache-Session-SharedMem 0.5 0.6 [134] www/p5-GtkHTML 0.7006 0.7007 [135] www/phpwebapp 1.0 1.1 [136] www/pmwiki 2.0.10 2.0.11 [137] www/retawq 0.2.4 0.2.5 [138] www/screem 0.14.3 0.15.0 [139] x11-toolkits/gtkglextmm 1.0.1 1.1.0 [140] x11-toolkits/iwidgets 3.2 3.3 [141] x11-toolkits/movingmotif 2.2.0 2.3.0 [142] x11-toolkits/p5-Gnome2-VFS 1.001 1.002 [143] x11-toolkits/tkstep80 8.0.4 8.0.5 [144] x11-toolkits/tktable 2.8 2.9 [145] x11-toolkits/wxmozilla 0.5.3 0.5.4 [146] x11/dgs 0.5.9 0.5.10 [147] Please keep in mind that... - the check was only done in relation to the current version, so it is possible that the new version is not the newest version available on the master sites. - the full check of all ports takes more than two days, so it is possible that a new version is already commited. In that case, please ignore this email. - this is the only time you will get an alert about the above mentioned port versions on the below mentioned URLs. When the port version is updated, a check will again be done for it. When a new URL with a newer version is found, a check will be done for it again. - Not interested in further alerts? Send me the email address you are received it on for a full block, or the name of the port for a port-only block, or the name of a host for a host-only block. - An overview of all newly discovered distfiles can be found at http://edwin.adsl.barnet.com.au/~edwin/ports/. The page keeps unchanged until the next run. URLS [1] http://jaist.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/orsa/orsa-0.7.0.tar.gz http://umn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/orsa/orsa-0.7.0.tar.gz [2] http://jaist.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/jackit/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.100.0.tar.gz http://umn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/jackit/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.100.0.tar.gz [3] http://jaist.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/rioutil/rioutil-1.4.7.tar.gz http://umn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/rioutil/rioutil-1.4.7.tar.gz [4] http://jaist.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/sbagen/sbagen-1.0.9.tgz http://umn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/sbagen/sbagen-1.0.9.tgz [5] http://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/solfege/solfege-3.0.3.tar.gz http://jaist.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/solfege/solfege-3.0.3.tar.gz http://nchc.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/solfege/solfege-3.0.3.tar.gz http://optusnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/solfege/solfege-3.0.3.tar.gz http://surfnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/solfege/solfege-3.0.3.tar.gz http://ufpr.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/solfege/solfege-3.0.3.tar.gz http://umn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/solfege/solfege-3.0.3.tar.gz [6] http://jaist.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/sweep/sweep-0.8.4.tar.gz http://umn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/sweep/sweep-0.8.4.tar.gz [7] http://jaist.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/oto/oto-0.5.tar.gz http://umn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/oto/oto-0.5.tar.gz [8] http://jaist.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/wenju/wenju-1.4.tar.gz http://umn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/wenju/wenju-1.4.tar.gz [9] http://jaist.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/pydbdesigner/pydbdesigner-0.1.4.tar.gz http://umn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/pydbdesigner/pydbdesigner-0.1.4.tar.gz [10] http://jaist.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/ganttproject/ganttproject-1.10.2-src.zip http://umn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/ganttproject/ganttproject-1.10.2-src.zip [11] http://www.kde-apps.org/content/files/12725-kdissert-1.0.5.tar.bz2 [12] 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http://umn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/wxmozilla/wxmozilla-0.5.4.tar.gz [147] http://ftp.funet.fi/pub/gnu/prep/dgs/dgs-0.5.10.tar.gz From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 23:46:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAF1316A41F; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:46:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dukecmmtao01.coxmail.com (dukecmmtao01.coxmail.com [68.99.120.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8AB843D46; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:46:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dns1 ([64.58.171.82]) by dukecmmtao01.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051017234701.FVLQ7298.dukecmmtao01.coxmail.com@dns1>; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:47:01 -0400 From: Vizion To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:41:57 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20051017231657.6AED3650F@k7.mavetju> In-Reply-To: <20051017231657.6AED3650F@k7.mavetju> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510171641.59160.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> Cc: ports@freebsd.org, Edwin Groothuis Subject: Re: [FreeBSD Ports Version Check] Newer available versions for ports you maintain X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:46:56 -0000 On Monday 17 October 2005 16:16, the author Edwin Groothuis contributed to the dialogue on- [FreeBSD Ports Version Check] Newer available versions for ports you maintain: >Dear ports@freebsd.org, > >As maintainer of one or more FreeBSD ports, I would like to inform >you that a new version is available for the following port(s): > Thank you david 40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Taurus. Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing bound for Europe via Panama Canal after completing engineroom refit. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 23:46:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAF1316A41F; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:46:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dukecmmtao01.coxmail.com (dukecmmtao01.coxmail.com [68.99.120.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8AB843D46; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:46:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dns1 ([64.58.171.82]) by dukecmmtao01.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051017234701.FVLQ7298.dukecmmtao01.coxmail.com@dns1>; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:47:01 -0400 From: Vizion To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:41:57 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20051017231657.6AED3650F@k7.mavetju> In-Reply-To: <20051017231657.6AED3650F@k7.mavetju> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510171641.59160.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> Cc: ports@freebsd.org, Edwin Groothuis Subject: Re: [FreeBSD Ports Version Check] Newer available versions for ports you maintain X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:46:56 -0000 On Monday 17 October 2005 16:16, the author Edwin Groothuis contributed to the dialogue on- [FreeBSD Ports Version Check] Newer available versions for ports you maintain: >Dear ports@freebsd.org, > >As maintainer of one or more FreeBSD ports, I would like to inform >you that a new version is available for the following port(s): > Thank you david 40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Taurus. Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing bound for Europe via Panama Canal after completing engineroom refit. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 00:08:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CFF316A41F for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:08:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neuhauser@sigpipe.cz) Received: from isis.sigpipe.cz (fw.sigpipe.cz [62.245.70.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A084443D48 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:08:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neuhauser@sigpipe.cz) Received: by isis.sigpipe.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 75D481F87BFD; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 02:08:33 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 02:08:33 +0200 From: Roman Neuhauser To: Kris Kennaway , ports@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20051018000833.GF71766@isis.sigpipe.cz> Mail-Followup-To: Kris Kennaway , ports@FreeBSD.org References: <20040619021700.GA27883@xor.obsecurity.org> <20040619111157.GA506@isis.wad.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040619111157.GA506@isis.wad.cz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: Subject: Re: Change to INDEX format X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:08:35 -0000 # neuhauser@chello.cz / 2004-06-19 13:11:57 +0200: > # kris@obsecurity.org / 2004-06-18 19:17:00 -0700: > > This patch extends the format of the INDEX file to separately list > > FETCH_DEPENDS, EXTRACT_DEPENDS and PATCH_DEPENDS instead of lumping > > them all together with BUILD_DEPENDS. > > Do you think this needs to be reflected in the 'search' target in > bsd.port.subdir.mk? I'm updating Mk/bsd.port.subdir.mk to make searching and display of the 11th to 13th field possible, and I have a question: what should happen to the default display? Should the F-deps, E-deps, P-deps fields be displayed by default? -- How many Vietnam vets does it take to screw in a light bulb? You don't know, man. You don't KNOW. Cause you weren't THERE. http://bash.org/?255991 From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 00:19:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A2816A41F for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:19:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE49043D45 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:19:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C6E1A3C2B for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:19:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4840D5129C; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:19:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:19:22 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Kris Kennaway , ports@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20051018001922.GA41333@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20040619021700.GA27883@xor.obsecurity.org> <20040619111157.GA506@isis.wad.cz> <20051018000833.GF71766@isis.sigpipe.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051018000833.GF71766@isis.sigpipe.cz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: Subject: Re: Change to INDEX format X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:19:25 -0000 --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 02:08:33AM +0200, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > # neuhauser@chello.cz / 2004-06-19 13:11:57 +0200: > > # kris@obsecurity.org / 2004-06-18 19:17:00 -0700: > > > This patch extends the format of the INDEX file to separately list > > > FETCH_DEPENDS, EXTRACT_DEPENDS and PATCH_DEPENDS instead of lumping > > > them all together with BUILD_DEPENDS. > >=20 > > Do you think this needs to be reflected in the 'search' target in > > bsd.port.subdir.mk? >=20 > I'm updating Mk/bsd.port.subdir.mk to make searching and display > of the 11th to 13th field possible, and I have a question: what > should happen to the default display? Should the F-deps, E-deps, > P-deps fields be displayed by default? Probably, I guess. Kris --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDVD+JWry0BWjoQKURAlUYAKC6OjqtHy3eIKmVa6ekZC1CeT37YACg4cWg 2M4tgG2zoFEo3i7YdKlks68= =6h1k -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 00:33:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4FF616A41F for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:33:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neuhauser@sigpipe.cz) Received: from isis.sigpipe.cz (fw.sigpipe.cz [62.245.70.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5147743D48 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:33:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neuhauser@sigpipe.cz) Received: by isis.sigpipe.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4C9B81F87BFD; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 02:33:29 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 02:33:29 +0200 From: Roman Neuhauser To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051018003329.GG71766@isis.sigpipe.cz> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <20051015053003.GB28137@soaustin.net> <4350CE50.8080704@ebs.gr> <5739E97B-7EDC-4971-9EA5-01A44688A981@softweyr.com> <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> <1B8112AF-8C0E-4BA0-8D1C-DA6AD529F327@softweyr.com> <20051017153024.GA23494@arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr> <20051017212748.GD71766@isis.sigpipe.cz> <790a9fff0510171505i4010cc05yc30f67d459d1a0e4@mail.gmail.com> <20051017222145.GA2840@sysmon.tcworks.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051017222145.GA2840@sysmon.tcworks.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:33:30 -0000 # lambert@lambertfam.org / 2005-10-17 17:21:45 -0500: > On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 05:05:18PM -0500, Scot Hetzel wrote: > > The following could be added to bsd.port.mk > > > > virtualport: > > .for CATEGORY in ${CATEGORIES} > > .if not exist ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY} > > mkdir ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY} > > .endif > > .if not exist ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY}/${PORTNAME} > > ln -s ${.CURDIR} ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY}/${PORTNAME} > > .endif > > .endfor > > > > which would add the link for a specific port. The we would need to > > add a virtualports target (bsd.subdir.mk?) that would decend thru all > > the ports creating all the symbolic links (similar to the "make > > readmes" target used in /usr/ports/ ). > > The inodes, man! The inodes!!!! Inodes are cheap compared to the time I spend typing (and fixing typos in) something like make search name=\^p5- disp=path cat=www | sed '/^$/d' compared to ls -d /upo/w/p5-* Screw inodes, ls is too nice for the basic stuff. We could stop using the ugly portname prefixes like p5-, pear- (they just duplicate information contained in CATEGORIES IMO). Today, you can usually list all ports in such a virtual category by doing e. g. ls /usr/ports/*/p5-*, with virtual categories on disk you could also ls /usr/ports/p5. And, since you'll probably be in /usr/ports already, the final command is comfortably short (how about ls ecl?). -- How many Vietnam vets does it take to screw in a light bulb? You don't know, man. You don't KNOW. Cause you weren't THERE. http://bash.org/?255991 From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 01:04:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B3E716A41F for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:04:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neuhauser@sigpipe.cz) Received: from isis.sigpipe.cz (fw.sigpipe.cz [62.245.70.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 488C143D46 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:04:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neuhauser@sigpipe.cz) Received: by isis.sigpipe.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1C9FB1F87BFD; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 03:04:47 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 03:04:46 +0200 From: Roman Neuhauser To: Scot Hetzel Message-ID: <20051018010446.GH71766@isis.sigpipe.cz> Mail-Followup-To: Scot Hetzel , Wes Peters , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, kris@obsecurity.org References: <200510150015.j9F0ExKr085847@sakura.ninth-nine.com> <20051015053003.GB28137@soaustin.net> <4350CE50.8080704@ebs.gr> <5739E97B-7EDC-4971-9EA5-01A44688A981@softweyr.com> <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> <1B8112AF-8C0E-4BA0-8D1C-DA6AD529F327@softweyr.com> <20051017153024.GA23494@arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr> <20051017212748.GD71766@isis.sigpipe.cz> <790a9fff0510171505i4010cc05yc30f67d459d1a0e4@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <790a9fff0510171505i4010cc05yc30f67d459d1a0e4@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: Wes Peters , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, kris@obsecurity.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:04:51 -0000 # swhetzel@gmail.com / 2005-10-17 17:05:18 -0500: > On 10/17/05, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > > Wes said: "I have to resort to 'make search'" which presumably means > > he'd prefer to just ls /usr/ports/$emacs_category; while 'make > > search' is a bearable interface (FMPOV), you can't beat a ls. > > > > Hey, what about materialized virtual categories? A bunch of > > symlinks, and everyone's happy. Or is that too much for CVS? > > It would probably be too much for CVS to handle, instead someone could > modify bsd.port.mk to create the virtual category directories and then > symbolicly link the ports into these categories. > > The following could be added to bsd.port.mk > > virtualport: > .for CATEGORY in ${CATEGORIES} > .if not exist ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY} > mkdir ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY} > .endif > .if not exist ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY}/${PORTNAME} > ln -s ${.CURDIR} ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY}/${PORTNAME} > .endif > .endfor > > which would add the link for a specific port. The we would need to > add a virtualports target (bsd.subdir.mk?) that would decend thru all > the ports creating all the symbolic links (similar to the "make > readmes" target used in /usr/ports/ ). > > Also there would need to be another target that would remove all the > symbolic links, that way you could re-create them without worrying > about removed symbolic links pointing to non-existant ports. > > NOTE: Non of this code has been tested. If you want this feature, work > on improving the code and submitting it as a patch to the PR database > for Ports Managers to accept/reject. I'm putting this in my .plan, and will eventually work on it unless someone points me at a past discussion that showed there were major technical obstacles to this. I think I could manage inside /usr/ports/Mk: * create an update-vcats that works in all of portsdir, portsdir/category and portsdir/category/port * maintain a list of names of virtual categories in a make variable * create symlinks in the virtual categories this port lists in CATEGORIES * delete symlinks to this port from other virtual categories if any But I'm quite concerned about the changes needed to make things like the package building cluster or make index aware of this. It looks like it would have quite far reaching consequences. Kris? -- How many Vietnam vets does it take to screw in a light bulb? You don't know, man. You don't KNOW. Cause you weren't THERE. http://bash.org/?255991 From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 01:16:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8356116A41F for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:16:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29F2643D49 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:16:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E22571A3C28; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:16:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0B9E851244; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:16:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:16:16 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Scot Hetzel , Wes Peters , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, kris@obsecurity.org Message-ID: <20051018011616.GA57969@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20051015053003.GB28137@soaustin.net> <4350CE50.8080704@ebs.gr> <5739E97B-7EDC-4971-9EA5-01A44688A981@softweyr.com> <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> <1B8112AF-8C0E-4BA0-8D1C-DA6AD529F327@softweyr.com> <20051017153024.GA23494@arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr> <20051017212748.GD71766@isis.sigpipe.cz> <790a9fff0510171505i4010cc05yc30f67d459d1a0e4@mail.gmail.com> <20051018010446.GH71766@isis.sigpipe.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051018010446.GH71766@isis.sigpipe.cz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:16:21 -0000 --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 03:04:46AM +0200, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > # swhetzel@gmail.com / 2005-10-17 17:05:18 -0500: > > On 10/17/05, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > > > Wes said: "I have to resort to 'make search'" which presumably mea= ns > > > he'd prefer to just ls /usr/ports/$emacs_category; while 'make > > > search' is a bearable interface (FMPOV), you can't beat a ls. > > > > > > Hey, what about materialized virtual categories? A bunch of > > > symlinks, and everyone's happy. Or is that too much for CVS? > > > > It would probably be too much for CVS to handle, instead someone could > > modify bsd.port.mk to create the virtual category directories and then > > symbolicly link the ports into these categories. > >=20 > > The following could be added to bsd.port.mk > >=20 > > virtualport: > > .for CATEGORY in ${CATEGORIES} > > .if not exist ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY} > > mkdir ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY} > > .endif > > .if not exist ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY}/${PORTNAME} > > ln -s ${.CURDIR} ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY}/${PORTNAME} > > .endif > > .endfor > >=20 > > which would add the link for a specific port. The we would need to > > add a virtualports target (bsd.subdir.mk?) that would decend thru all > > the ports creating all the symbolic links (similar to the "make > > readmes" target used in /usr/ports/ ). > >=20 > > Also there would need to be another target that would remove all the > > symbolic links, that way you could re-create them without worrying > > about removed symbolic links pointing to non-existant ports. > >=20 > > NOTE: Non of this code has been tested. If you want this feature, work > > on improving the code and submitting it as a patch to the PR database > > for Ports Managers to accept/reject. >=20 > I'm putting this in my .plan, and will eventually work on it unless > someone points me at a past discussion that showed there were major > technical obstacles to this. >=20 > I think I could manage inside /usr/ports/Mk: >=20 > * create an update-vcats that works in all of portsdir, > portsdir/category and portsdir/category/port > * maintain a list of names of virtual categories in a make variable > * create symlinks in the virtual categories this port lists in > CATEGORIES > * delete symlinks to this port from other virtual categories if any > =20 > But I'm quite concerned about the changes needed to make things like > the package building cluster or make index aware of this. It looks > like it would have quite far reaching consequences. Kris? I don't have time to think about this much, but it seems to me that keeping all the symlinks up to date requires a time-consuming walk of the entire ports tree. However, I'm not sure package builds or index builds need to know anything about this, since they can just ignore the symlinks (which represent a duplicate path to the same directory) and proceed as now with how they do things. Kris --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDVEzgWry0BWjoQKURAn3PAKCbwuI8b1/IkfG2/y+H2Zd3hTV2LQCcDBGH J7Q3r5dUIfYDb1KEmny/rF8= =1VVF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 01:40:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16BD416A41F for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:40:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@skew.org) Received: from chilled.skew.org (skew.org [65.101.207.237]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A16CA43D4C for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:40:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@skew.org) Received: from chilled.skew.org (localhost.skew.org [127.0.0.1]) by chilled.skew.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9I1dl7S025131; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:39:47 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from mike@chilled.skew.org) Received: (from mike@localhost) by chilled.skew.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j9I1deoL025130; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:39:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from mike) From: Mike Brown Message-Id: <200510180139.j9I1deoL025130@chilled.skew.org> In-Reply-To: <20051016000000.GH1278@k7.mavetju> To: Edwin Groothuis Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:39:40 -0600 (MDT) X-Whoa: whoa. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL119 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Mike Brown , jharris@widomaker.com, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bzip2 port still out of date X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:40:41 -0000 Edwin Groothuis wrote: > I have gone through the patches noted in the > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/CERT/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-05:14.bzip2.asc > and compared them with the current state of 1.0.3. There was only > something missing in bzip2.c. If the maintainer (hi jharris!) is > okay with it I will commit the following patch: > [...] Thanks for doing that, Edwin. Hopefully the maintainer will reply soon. I also suggest that the pkg-descr be updated to include the following: FreeBSD 5 ships with bzip2 in the base system, but it is trimmed such that it includes only libbz2 plus the binaries for bzip2, bunzip2, bzcat, and bzip2recover. However, /usr/bin/bzgrep is a link to zgrep, which supports .bz2 files. FreeBSD 5 does not include the shell script version of bzgrep or the scripts for bzdiff and bzmore. FreeBSD 4 does not ship with bzip2 in the base system at all. This port installs the entire bzip2 package, including libbz2, the binaries for bzip2, bunzip2, bzcat/bz2cat, and bzip2recover, and the shell scripts for bzgrep, bzegrep, bzfgrep, bzdiff, and bzmore. -Mike From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 03:56:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B493C16A41F for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 03:56:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from novel@mxout.hispeed.ch) Received: from mxout.hispeed.ch (mxout.hispeed.ch [62.2.95.247]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14FC143D45 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 03:56:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from novel@mxout.hispeed.ch) Received: from localhost (ts1-a40.Saratov.dial.rol.ru [194.186.150.40]) (authenticated bits=0) by mxout.hispeed.ch (8.12.6/8.12.6/tornado-1.0) with ESMTP id j9I3ulpn032319; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 05:56:49 +0200 Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 07:59:55 +0400 From: Roman Bogorodskiy To: Vladimir Kushnir Message-ID: <20051018035955.GA650@lame.novel.ru> References: <20051017160446.GA16644@lame.novel.ru> <20051018003336.V1230@kushnir1.kiev.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051018003336.V1230@kushnir1.kiev.ua> X-PGP: http://people.freebsd.org/~novel/novel.key.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.87, clamav-milter version 0.87 on smtp-08.tornado.cablecom.ch X-Virus-Status: Clean X-DCC-spamcheck-01.tornado.cablecom.ch-Metrics: smtp-08.tornado.cablecom.ch 32700; Body=4 Fuz1=4 Fuz2=4 Cc: ports@freebsd.org, "Andrew P." , Bill Schoolcraft Subject: Re: xmms-wma on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 03:56:52 -0000 --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Vladimir wrote: > For me, it works (patch doesn't apply cleanly but the method is precisely= =20 > the same) for audio/bmp-wma. With audio/xmms-wma it somehow doesn't pick= =20 > up CFLAGS :-( Ok, here's a patch for bmp-wma which should apply clean: http://people.freebsd.org/~novel/patches/freebsd/port.bmp-wma.amd64.diff As for xmms-wma, can you post output of `make -V CFLAGS' in xmms-wma port dir? =20 Roman Bogorodskiy --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iQCVAwUBQ1RzO4B0WzgdqspGAQINggP8CKQNO7uFswkKbXY+lL2WE7W3ZSpeV82I 43cz53SqYiGU6Ow5dETLK75apOEmS9MN5TQ12Lz842CZ6gMwh5Azz1LGIFEs9ttq g0STziwfRJL9g7GSmfYDUSdPA0ox+SI3eTyGFHKEaia3iipZWI0gOwNPjMkn3nH6 qbWrEWxfCDU= =TjvU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 06:39:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF8716A41F for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 06:39:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from smtp.omnis.com (smtp.omnis.com [216.239.128.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B66C743D49 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 06:39:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from [204.68.178.34] (cpe-66-75-60-23.san.res.rr.com [66.75.60.23]) by smtp-relay.omnis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5823020068B0; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:39:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20051018011616.GA57969@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20051015053003.GB28137@soaustin.net> <4350CE50.8080704@ebs.gr> <5739E97B-7EDC-4971-9EA5-01A44688A981@softweyr.com> <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> <1B8112AF-8C0E-4BA0-8D1C-DA6AD529F327@softweyr.com> <20051017153024.GA23494@arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr> <20051017212748.GD71766@isis.sigpipe.cz> <790a9fff0510171505i4010cc05yc30f67d459d1a0e4@mail.gmail.com> <20051018010446.GH71766@isis.sigpipe.cz> <20051018011616.GA57969@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v734) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Wes Peters Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:39:52 -0700 To: Kris Kennaway X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.734) Cc: Scot Hetzel , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 06:39:55 -0000 On Oct 17, 2005, at 6:16 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 03:04:46AM +0200, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > >> # swhetzel@gmail.com / 2005-10-17 17:05:18 -0500: >> >>> On 10/17/05, Roman Neuhauser wrote: >>> >>>> Wes said: "I have to resort to 'make search'" which >>>> presumably means >>>> he'd prefer to just ls /usr/ports/$emacs_category; while 'make >>>> search' is a bearable interface (FMPOV), you can't beat a ls. >>>> >>>> Hey, what about materialized virtual categories? A bunch of >>>> symlinks, and everyone's happy. Or is that too much for CVS? >>>> >>> >>> It would probably be too much for CVS to handle, instead someone >>> could >>> modify bsd.port.mk to create the virtual category directories and >>> then >>> symbolicly link the ports into these categories. >>> >>> The following could be added to bsd.port.mk >>> >>> virtualport: >>> .for CATEGORY in ${CATEGORIES} >>> .if not exist ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY} >>> mkdir ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY} >>> .endif >>> .if not exist ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY}/${PORTNAME} >>> ln -s ${.CURDIR} ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY}/${PORTNAME} >>> .endif >>> .endfor >>> >>> which would add the link for a specific port. The we would need to >>> add a virtualports target (bsd.subdir.mk?) that would decend thru >>> all >>> the ports creating all the symbolic links (similar to the "make >>> readmes" target used in /usr/ports/ ). >>> >>> Also there would need to be another target that would remove all the >>> symbolic links, that way you could re-create them without worrying >>> about removed symbolic links pointing to non-existant ports. >>> >>> NOTE: Non of this code has been tested. If you want this feature, >>> work >>> on improving the code and submitting it as a patch to the PR >>> database >>> for Ports Managers to accept/reject. >>> >> >> I'm putting this in my .plan, and will eventually work on it >> unless >> someone points me at a past discussion that showed there were >> major >> technical obstacles to this. >> >> I think I could manage inside /usr/ports/Mk: >> >> * create an update-vcats that works in all of portsdir, >> portsdir/category and portsdir/category/port >> * maintain a list of names of virtual categories in a make >> variable >> * create symlinks in the virtual categories this port lists in >> CATEGORIES >> * delete symlinks to this port from other virtual categories >> if any >> >> But I'm quite concerned about the changes needed to make >> things like >> the package building cluster or make index aware of this. It >> looks >> like it would have quite far reaching consequences. Kris? >> > > I don't have time to think about this much, but it seems to me that > keeping all the symlinks up to date requires a time-consuming walk of > the entire ports tree. However, I'm not sure package builds or index > builds need to know anything about this, since they can just ignore > the symlinks (which represent a duplicate path to the same directory) > and proceed as now with how they do things. Thanks for eliding the mud-slinging and getting back on track here guys. I think a better, more easily searched index to the ports system is an admirable goal. How it is implemented is a task I wouldn't presume to dictate to people who know the ports system so much better than I do. The ability to easily tab-search through sensible ports categories does make it much easier to find ports, especially when you have some idea of what the port name might be. Tools like 'make search' work well when you don't know what you're looking for all that well, but are a pretty broad axe to apply to, for instance, finding the eclipse gui editor (I know it's eclipse-g{something} or eclipse-v{something}) or a specific kdemultimedia codec. I'm not pointing this out for my use; I'm pretty adept at finding stuff in ports. I have a lot of co-workers who are experienced programmers but not necessarily experience FreeBSD'ers and they often have trouble finding ports even when they (almost) know the name. -- Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket? Wes Peters wes@softweyr.com From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 11:42:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75AB216A41F; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:42:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from past@ebs.gr) Received: from fly.ebs.gr (fly.ebs.gr [62.103.84.177]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7F7A43D45; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:42:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from past@ebs.gr) Received: from ebs.gr (root@hal.ebs.gr [10.1.1.2]) by fly.ebs.gr (8.12.9p1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9IBgc9V042101; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:42:38 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from past@ebs.gr) Received: from [10.1.1.158] (pc158.ebs.gr [10.1.1.158]) by ebs.gr (8.13.3/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9IBgh4l066645; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:42:46 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from past@ebs.gr) Message-ID: <4354DF92.4050402@ebs.gr> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:42:10 +0300 From: Panagiotis Astithas Organization: EBS Ltd. User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051008) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vizion References: <200510150015.j9F0ExKr085847@sakura.ninth-nine.com> <20051017212748.GD71766@isis.sigpipe.cz> <790a9fff0510171505i4010cc05yc30f67d459d1a0e4@mail.gmail.com> <200510171522.17180.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200510171522.17180.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org, Wes Peters , Scot Hetzel , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:42:44 -0000 Vizion wrote: > On Monday 17 October 2005 15:05, the author Scot Hetzel contributed to the > dialogue on- > Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports: > > >>On 10/17/05, Roman Neuhauser wrote: >> >>> Wes said: "I have to resort to 'make search'" which presumably means >>> he'd prefer to just ls /usr/ports/$emacs_category; while 'make >>> search' is a bearable interface (FMPOV), you can't beat a ls. >>> >>> Hey, what about materialized virtual categories? A bunch of >>> symlinks, and everyone's happy. Or is that too much for CVS? >> >>It would probably be too much for CVS to handle, instead someone could >>modify bsd.port.mk to create the virtual category directories and then >>symbolicly link the ports into these categories. >> >>The following could be added to bsd.port.mk >> >>virtualport: >>.for CATEGORY in ${CATEGORIES} >>.if not exist ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY} >> mkdir ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY} >>.endif >>.if not exist ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY}/${PORTNAME} >> ln -s ${.CURDIR} ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY}/${PORTNAME} >>.endif >>.endfor >> >>which would add the link for a specific port. The we would need to >>add a virtualports target (bsd.subdir.mk?) that would decend thru all >>the ports creating all the symbolic links (similar to the "make >>readmes" target used in /usr/ports/ ). >> >>Also there would need to be another target that would remove all the >>symbolic links, that way you could re-create them without worrying >>about removed symbolic links pointing to non-existant ports. >> >>NOTE: Non of this code has been tested. If you want this feature, work >>on improving the code and submitting it as a patch to the PR database >>for Ports Managers to accept/reject. >> >>Scot > > > > Would this provide an opportunity to have for example: > /usr/ports/eclipse > /usr/ports/eclipse/plugins/ > > so that the plugins could be selected for installation from make config > in /usr/ports and manage the installation of the plugins (rather similar to > what happens for php)? This can be done today, with an eclipse-plugins meta-port, similar to the php5-extensions one. I may even find some time to work on it. Cheers, Panagiotis From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 14:11:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A91516A41F; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:11:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from herve.quiroz@esil.univ-mrs.fr) Received: from arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr (arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr [139.124.41.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAEED43D48; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:11:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from herve.quiroz@esil.univ-mrs.fr) Received: from arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9HEBcvg031514; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:11:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from herve.quiroz@esil.univ-mrs.fr) Received: (from rv@localhost) by arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j9HEBQxf031451; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:11:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from herve.quiroz@esil.univ-mrs.fr) X-Authentication-Warning: arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr: rv set sender to herve.quiroz@esil.univ-mrs.fr using -f Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:11:25 +0200 From: Herve Quiroz To: Achilleus Mantzios Message-ID: <20051017141125.GA25725@arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr> Mail-Followup-To: Achilleus Mantzios , Wes Peters , tux@pinguru.net, wes@freebsd.org, freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org, mitsuru@riken.jp, Norikatsu Shigemura , rtdean@cytherianage.net, sugimura@jp.FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Mark Linimon , Panagiotis Astithas , freebsd-java@freebsd.org References: <1B8112AF-8C0E-4BA0-8D1C-DA6AD529F327@softweyr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:04:00 +0000 Cc: Wes Peters , wes@freebsd.org, freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org, mitsuru@riken.jp, tux@pinguru.net, Norikatsu Shigemura , rtdean@cytherianage.net, sugimura@jp.FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Mark Linimon , Panagiotis Astithas , freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:11:50 -0000 Hi Achilleus, On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 04:09:37PM +0300, Achilleus Mantzios wrote: > Perhaps i missed something, > but why all that bother with eclipse, when (at least) all the > java add-ons for it are easily managed by the tool itself? > > For possible JNI eclipse plugins (if any) a port definately > makes sense but for the majority (java) i think the community > over engineers the case instead of working on more vital issues > of the operation system. You are right this is becoming a huge issue while it should probably not. The main concern, IMHO, is that the 'java' category could disapear as a main category (a non-virtual category) some day. There are indeed several people (including me) who believe that it was a mistake in the first place and I am starting to think that me should effectively get rid of it before more and more ports are added into it. Take as an example the recent add of the java/eclipse-webtools port. We decided some time ago to avoid adding new ports in the 'java' physicial category when they are not *stricly* Java support-related (that is, JDK, Sun official libraries and APIs, and such tools). OTOH I can understand why Norikatsu just did commit the port in 'java' because all other Eclipse ports were already there. I believe that moving the ports that do not rely to core Java support from the 'java' main category would allow commiters to avoid such practices. That's why I agree with this whole "eclipse repocopy" concern. Now, I am probably not well aware of the actual use of each Eclipse package to be be the right person to decide whether we should have them all in the same main category or scattered all over the ports tree. But if I am to give my two cents on the topic, I believe that if we want to get rid of the "Java exception" (the only language with its own non-virtual category, no specific PKGNAMEPREFIX while perl, python and other have one...) we should not produce another exception, namely the "Eclipse exception". Hence I think we should do just the same as for the many other "applications with many modules" that exists in the tree (Emacs is IMHO a good example) and thus I think scattering them is a fine approach. To sum up, scatter them or put them in one single place, but please move them from the 'java' category once the ports tree slush is over. That will be 24 ports less to move when we decide to get rid of the non-virtual 'java' category and moreover this will allow new Eclipse ports to comply with the defined conventions for Java ports. Herve From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 14:01:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 675A716A41F for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:01:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rmh@aybabtu.com) Received: from khazad.dyndns.org (216.red-62-57-140.user.auna.net [62.57.140.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D16543D45 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:01:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rmh@aybabtu.com) Received: from rmh by khazad.dyndns.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1ERs2A-0004FU-3h; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:01:42 +0200 Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:01:37 +0200 From: Robert Millan To: nox@jelal.kn-bremen.de Message-ID: <20051018140137.GA16159@aragorn> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: Robert Millan Organisation: free as in freedom User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: gzip-like CLI wrapper for p7zip X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:01:51 -0000 Hi, I a small gzip-like wrapper for p7zip. The upstream developers don't seem to like the idea, but it is going to be included in Debian, and I thought you might want to provide it as well. For details, see: http://bugs.debian.org/334106 (the script is attached there) We intend to ask the gnu tar maintainers for a p7zip flag. Having this script in the FreeBSD port would help in that regard. -- Robert Millan From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 14:35:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C157816A41F; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:35:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com (dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com [68.99.120.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 744D243D48; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:35:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dns1 ([64.58.171.82]) by dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051018143555.OAUZ2325.dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com@dns1>; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:35:55 -0400 From: Vizion To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 07:30:52 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200510150015.j9F0ExKr085847@sakura.ninth-nine.com> <200510171522.17180.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> <4354DF92.4050402@ebs.gr> In-Reply-To: <4354DF92.4050402@ebs.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510180730.56069.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org, Wes Peters , Scot Hetzel , Panagiotis Astithas , freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:35:52 -0000 On Tuesday 18 October 2005 04:42, the author Panagiotis Astithas contributed to the dialogue on- Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports: >Vizion wrote: >> On Monday 17 October 2005 15:05, the author Scot Hetzel contributed to >> the dialogue on- >> >> Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports: >>>On 10/17/05, Roman Neuhauser wrote: >>>> Wes said: "I have to resort to 'make search'" which presumably means >>>> he'd prefer to just ls /usr/ports/$emacs_category; while 'make >>>> search' is a bearable interface (FMPOV), you can't beat a ls. >>>> >>>> Hey, what about materialized virtual categories? A bunch of >>>> symlinks, and everyone's happy. Or is that too much for CVS? >>> >>>It would probably be too much for CVS to handle, instead someone could >>>modify bsd.port.mk to create the virtual category directories and then >>>symbolicly link the ports into these categories. >>> >>>The following could be added to bsd.port.mk >>> >>>virtualport: >>>.for CATEGORY in ${CATEGORIES} >>>.if not exist ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY} >>> mkdir ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY} >>>.endif >>>.if not exist ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY}/${PORTNAME} >>> ln -s ${.CURDIR} ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY}/${PORTNAME} >>>.endif >>>.endfor >>> >>>which would add the link for a specific port. The we would need to >>>add a virtualports target (bsd.subdir.mk?) that would decend thru all >>>the ports creating all the symbolic links (similar to the "make >>>readmes" target used in /usr/ports/ ). >>> >>>Also there would need to be another target that would remove all the >>>symbolic links, that way you could re-create them without worrying >>>about removed symbolic links pointing to non-existant ports. >>> >>>NOTE: Non of this code has been tested. If you want this feature, work >>>on improving the code and submitting it as a patch to the PR database >>>for Ports Managers to accept/reject. >>> >>>Scot >> >> Would this provide an opportunity to have for example: >> /usr/ports/eclipse >> /usr/ports/eclipse/plugins/ >> >> so that the plugins could be selected for installation from make config >> in /usr/ports and manage the installation of the plugins (rather similar >> to what happens for php)? > >This can be done today, with an eclipse-plugins meta-port, similar to >the php5-extensions one. I may even find some time to work on it. Wow That is great That is what I have been arguing for for three months!! david > >Cheers, > >Panagiotis >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- 40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. 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From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 15:21:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B3316A41F; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:21:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from herve.quiroz@esil.univ-mrs.fr) Received: from arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr (arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr [139.124.41.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14C1E43D4C; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:21:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from herve.quiroz@esil.univ-mrs.fr) Received: from arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9IFLPQf016753; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:21:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from herve.quiroz@esil.univ-mrs.fr) Received: (from rv@localhost) by arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j9IFLOcR016752; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:21:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from herve.quiroz@esil.univ-mrs.fr) X-Authentication-Warning: arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr: rv set sender to herve.quiroz@esil.univ-mrs.fr using -f Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:21:24 +0200 From: Herve Quiroz To: Vizion Message-ID: <20051018152124.GA16544@arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr> Mail-Followup-To: Vizion , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-java@freebsd.org, Wes Peters , Scot Hetzel , Panagiotis Astithas , freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org References: <200510150015.j9F0ExKr085847@sakura.ninth-nine.com> <200510171522.17180.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> <4354DF92.4050402@ebs.gr> <200510180730.56069.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200510180730.56069.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: Wes Peters , Scot Hetzel , freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Panagiotis Astithas , freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:21:29 -0000 On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 07:30:52AM -0700, Vizion wrote: > >This can be done today, with an eclipse-plugins meta-port, similar to > >the php5-extensions one. I may even find some time to work on it. > > Wow > > That is great > > That is what I have been arguing for for three months!! Yes, but you have been arguing for /usr/ports/eclipse and /usr/ports/eclipse/plugins which are both major changes to ports framework whereas php5-extensions is just a port as any other in the *existing* framework. And I remember suggesting something similar with a plugin support using MASTERDIR months ago. Anyway, if this is just a matter of having the same as lang/php5-extensions, I fully agree with the approach. Moreover, I am glad to see that we have come to agree on some point (although I don't know yet if people from freebsd-eclipse@ will effectively chose that particular approach). Now regarding the new non-virtual category, I think this goes beyond the scope of the freebsd-java@ team so I'll let others (freebsd-ports@ and probably portmgr@) deal with this new issue. FWIW, I remember some earlier discussion regarding the creation of a new category (IIRC it was about splitting 'net' into 'net-p2p' and such) where hundreds of ports were concerned and the discussion not only took a long time but as you can see these new categories never hit the ports tree. So I guess you'll have to be patient and explain your point in a much humble fashion than what you did for this eclipse plugin framework discussion. Herve From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 15:26:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59B1516A41F for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:26:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15EED43D45 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:26:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 6633E2FE0; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:26:11 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:26:11 -0500 To: Vizion Message-ID: <20051018152611.GA11790@soaustin.net> References: <200510150015.j9F0ExKr085847@sakura.ninth-nine.com> <1B8112AF-8C0E-4BA0-8D1C-DA6AD529F327@softweyr.com> <20051017153024.GA23494@arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr> <200510170844.06438.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200510170844.06438.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:26:12 -0000 On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 08:44:01AM -0700, Vizion wrote: > You guys just do not get it. > > I have spent over 45 five years in the computer industry and am fed up with > technologists who think in terms of their precious systems rather than on > behalf of people that use them. What we 'get' is that you have your individual opinion that you have stated, repeatedly. What you do not 'get' is that simply restating an opinion does not necessarily make anyone agree with you. mcl From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 15:37:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F5F16A41F for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:37:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D805543D48 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:37:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 5D79C2FFB; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:37:52 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:37:52 -0500 To: Wes Peters Message-ID: <20051018153752.GB11790@soaustin.net> References: <4350CE50.8080704@ebs.gr> <5739E97B-7EDC-4971-9EA5-01A44688A981@softweyr.com> <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> <1B8112AF-8C0E-4BA0-8D1C-DA6AD529F327@softweyr.com> <20051017153024.GA23494@arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr> <20051017212748.GD71766@isis.sigpipe.cz> <790a9fff0510171505i4010cc05yc30f67d459d1a0e4@mail.gmail.com> <20051018010446.GH71766@isis.sigpipe.cz> <20051018011616.GA57969@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Cc: Scot Hetzel , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:37:53 -0000 On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 11:39:52PM -0700, Wes Peters wrote: > I'm not pointing this out for my use; I'm pretty adept at finding > stuff in ports. I have a lot of co-workers who are experienced > programmers but not necessarily experience FreeBSD'ers and they often > have trouble finding ports even when they (almost) know the name. That highlights my point that IMHO we need two different functionalities: 'search' and 'browse'. 'make search' is barely adequate for searching. We have nothing at all for browsing (unless you count reading an entire list of ports in hierarchy as 'browsing', which even an old command-line kind of guy like me thinks is crude). IMHO these things are better addressed at the application level, not inside bsd.port.mk itself. See sysutils/portmanager for what I think is an interesting first step towards that direction. That's where I think our work should focus, not on directory structure. mcl From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 15:50:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDDAA16A420; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:50:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A896743D5C; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:50:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 237BA2FF5; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:50:22 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:50:22 -0500 To: Wes Peters Message-ID: <20051018155022.GC11790@soaustin.net> References: <200510150015.j9F0ExKr085847@sakura.ninth-nine.com> <20051015053003.GB28137@soaustin.net> <4350CE50.8080704@ebs.gr> <5739E97B-7EDC-4971-9EA5-01A44688A981@softweyr.com> <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> <1B8112AF-8C0E-4BA0-8D1C-DA6AD529F327@softweyr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1B8112AF-8C0E-4BA0-8D1C-DA6AD529F327@softweyr.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Cc: edwin@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:50:24 -0000 On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 06:55:25PM -0700, Wes Peters wrote: > That's exactly the point I was (and am) trying to argue against. I > have to resort to 'make search' to find emacs tools these days > because they've been thrown all over the ports system by well-meaning > but misguided contributors, and I'd hate to see that happen to > eclipse tools too. Well, I was completely shocked to find out that 'emacs' is not a virtual category. This is clearly just a bug and needs to be fixed. This is especially more shocking since 'elisp', which should be a strict subset, is a virtual category: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/elisp.html Related note: as of a few hours ago, I've taken a first whack at what I feel is another part of this overall problem. The main ports web page at http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/ has always just presented the links to the various ports categories alphabetically in one huge list. IMHO that's just simply unreadable. What I've done now (with Edwin Groothius' help to do the actual implementation) is split them up by logical groups. While completely inadequate for 'true' browsing it is at least one piece of the puzzle. Adding 'emacs' and 'eclipse' virtual categories is something further that we could do quickly, for a fairly low cost, and get an immediate benefit from. mcl From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 16:01:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6670E16A41F; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:01:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com (lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com [68.99.120.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B733543D46; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:01:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dns1 ([64.58.171.82]) by lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051018160128.SWPK17511.lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com@dns1>; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:01:28 -0400 From: Vizion To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 08:56:24 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200510150015.j9F0ExKr085847@sakura.ninth-nine.com> <4354DF92.4050402@ebs.gr> <200510180730.56069.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200510180730.56069.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510180856.27998.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> Cc: Wes Peters , Scot Hetzel , Panagiotis Astithas , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:01:22 -0000 On Tuesday 18 October 2005 07:30, the author Vizion contributed to the dialogue on- Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports: >On Tuesday 18 October 2005 04:42, the author Panagiotis Astithas > contributed to the dialogue on- > > Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports: >>Vizion wrote: >>> On Monday 17 October 2005 15:05, the author Scot Hetzel contributed to >>> the dialogue on- >>> >>> Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports: >>>>On 10/17/05, Roman Neuhauser wrote: >>>>> Wes said: "I have to resort to 'make search'" which presumably means >>>>> he'd prefer to just ls /usr/ports/$emacs_category; while 'make >>>>> search' is a bearable interface (FMPOV), you can't beat a ls. >>>>> >>>>> Hey, what about materialized virtual categories? A bunch of >>>>> symlinks, and everyone's happy. Or is that too much for CVS? >>>> >>>>It would probably be too much for CVS to handle, instead someone could >>>>modify bsd.port.mk to create the virtual category directories and then >>>>symbolicly link the ports into these categories. >>>> >>>>The following could be added to bsd.port.mk >>>> >>>>virtualport: >>>>.for CATEGORY in ${CATEGORIES} >>>>.if not exist ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY} >>>> mkdir ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY} >>>>.endif >>>>.if not exist ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY}/${PORTNAME} >>>> ln -s ${.CURDIR} ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY}/${PORTNAME} >>>>.endif >>>>.endfor >>>> >>>>which would add the link for a specific port. The we would need to >>>>add a virtualports target (bsd.subdir.mk?) that would decend thru all >>>>the ports creating all the symbolic links (similar to the "make >>>>readmes" target used in /usr/ports/ ). >>>> >>>>Also there would need to be another target that would remove all the >>>>symbolic links, that way you could re-create them without worrying >>>>about removed symbolic links pointing to non-existant ports. >>>> >>>>NOTE: Non of this code has been tested. If you want this feature, work >>>>on improving the code and submitting it as a patch to the PR database >>>>for Ports Managers to accept/reject. >>>> >>>>Scot >>> >>> Would this provide an opportunity to have for example: >>> /usr/ports/eclipse >>> /usr/ports/eclipse/plugins/ >>> >>> so that the plugins could be selected for installation from make config >>> in /usr/ports and manage the installation of the plugins (rather similar >>> to what happens for php)? >> >>This can be done today, with an eclipse-plugins meta-port, similar to >>the php5-extensions one. I may even find some time to work on it. > >Wow > >That is great > >That is what I have been arguing for for three months!! > >david BTW If you get time would there be any chance you could set up the localized plugin archive so that it conforms with Eclipse's expectation for plugin installation. Up until now, on a multi-user system, each user has to bring plugins into their individual work directories. This has led to different users inadvertently working with different plugin versions. One of the reasons I want to get the /usr/ports/eclipse/ and /usrports/eclipse/plugins hierarchies working is to have a systenatic method of ensuring devellopers are working with identical plugin versions. The ports tree system provides an ideal method of monitoring the plugins. The other advantage of the meta-port is that we will be immediately able to bring the remaining 300 plugins into freebsd. This would be a great leap forward david > >>Cheers, >> >>Panagiotis >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- 40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Taurus. Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing bound for Europe via Panama Canal after completing engineroom refit. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 16:07:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E2016A41F for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:07:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neuhauser@sigpipe.cz) Received: from isis.sigpipe.cz (fw.sigpipe.cz [62.245.70.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8255143D49 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:07:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neuhauser@sigpipe.cz) Received: by isis.sigpipe.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3DF861F87BFD; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:07:25 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:07:25 +0200 From: Roman Neuhauser To: Mark Linimon Message-ID: <20051018160725.GB87664@isis.sigpipe.cz> Mail-Followup-To: Mark Linimon , Wes Peters , Scot Hetzel , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway References: <5739E97B-7EDC-4971-9EA5-01A44688A981@softweyr.com> <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> <1B8112AF-8C0E-4BA0-8D1C-DA6AD529F327@softweyr.com> <20051017153024.GA23494@arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr> <20051017212748.GD71766@isis.sigpipe.cz> <790a9fff0510171505i4010cc05yc30f67d459d1a0e4@mail.gmail.com> <20051018010446.GH71766@isis.sigpipe.cz> <20051018011616.GA57969@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051018153752.GB11790@soaustin.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051018153752.GB11790@soaustin.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: Wes Peters , Scot Hetzel , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:07:27 -0000 # linimon@lonesome.com / 2005-10-18 10:37:52 -0500: > On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 11:39:52PM -0700, Wes Peters wrote: > > I'm not pointing this out for my use; I'm pretty adept at finding > > stuff in ports. I have a lot of co-workers who are experienced > > programmers but not necessarily experience FreeBSD'ers and they often > > have trouble finding ports even when they (almost) know the name. > > That highlights my point that IMHO we need two different functionalities: > 'search' and 'browse'. 'make search' is barely adequate for searching. What are you missing from make search? I'll try and add it if it's within reasonable bounds of complexity. > We have nothing at all for browsing (unless you count reading an entire > list of ports in hierarchy as 'browsing', which even an old command-line > kind of guy like me thinks is crude). Can you define 'browsing'? > IMHO these things are better addressed at the application level, not > inside bsd.port.mk itself. See sysutils/portmanager for what I think > is an interesting first step towards that direction. How will the Wes' colleagues find it? You need to be able to find a port to install it. If a port is required to make sense of the structure, we need a bootstrap mechanism, like something in the base. Like, ls. > That's where I think our work should focus, not on directory structure. Doesn't ls belong on the application level? It's the simplest tool that does the job quite fine (use a well configured shell with explicit support for FreeBSD ports, eg zsh, and you'll never look back), and you can combine it with other intimately familiar tools such as sed, awk, make, whatever. I would certainly prefer if we considered the fs structure to be the primary interface (and treated it accordingly). I'm weird, I know. -- How many Vietnam vets does it take to screw in a light bulb? You don't know, man. You don't KNOW. Cause you weren't THERE. http://bash.org/?255991 From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 16:13:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F65916A41F; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:13:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dukecmmtao01.coxmail.com (dukecmmtao01.coxmail.com [68.99.120.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FCB743D49; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:13:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dns1 ([64.58.171.82]) by dukecmmtao01.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051018161332.UACQ7298.dukecmmtao01.coxmail.com@dns1>; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:13:32 -0400 From: Vizion To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:08:22 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200510150015.j9F0ExKr085847@sakura.ninth-nine.com> <200510180730.56069.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> <20051018152124.GA16544@arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr> In-Reply-To: <20051018152124.GA16544@arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510180908.26798.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> Cc: Wes Peters , Scot Hetzel , freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org, Herve Quiroz , Panagiotis Astithas , freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:13:22 -0000 On Tuesday 18 October 2005 08:21, the author Herve Quiroz contributed to the dialogue on- Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports: >On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 07:30:52AM -0700, Vizion wrote: >> >This can be done today, with an eclipse-plugins meta-port, similar to >> >the php5-extensions one. I may even find some time to work on it. >> >> Wow >> >> That is great >> >> That is what I have been arguing for for three months!! > >Yes, but you have been arguing for /usr/ports/eclipse and >/usr/ports/eclipse/plugins which are both major changes to ports >framework whereas php5-extensions is just a port as any other in the >*existing* framework. And I remember suggesting something similar with a >plugin support using MASTERDIR months ago. > >Anyway, if this is just a matter of having the same as >lang/php5-extensions, I fully agree with the approach. Moreover, I am >glad to see that we have come to agree on some point (although I don't >know yet if people from freebsd-eclipse@ will effectively chose that >particular approach). > >Now regarding the new non-virtual category, I think this goes beyond the >scope of the freebsd-java@ team so I'll let others (freebsd-ports@ and >probably portmgr@) deal with this new issue. FWIW, I remember some >earlier discussion regarding the creation of a new category (IIRC it was >about splitting 'net' into 'net-p2p' and such) where hundreds of ports >were concerned and the discussion not only took a long time but as you >can see these new categories never hit the ports tree. So I guess >you'll have to be patient and explain your point in a much humble >fashion than what you did for this eclipse plugin framework discussion. I just lost it -- for three months I have put up with being polite in response to knee jerk reactions about "not making exceptions" and repeated demonstrations of a mindset that does not understand the implications of framework centric computing. I remember all the ineffectual battles with system focussed people back in the early 70's and was horrified that we were unabole to counter the rise of MS because the **ix community was unable to wrest control of its development cycle from engineers and determine its future policy by reference to user requirements. I see this happening again. I would argue that the powerful combination of JVM and framework centric processing will make OS choice dependent upon how easy it is for the user to control everything via an interface like eclipse. I would like to see freebsd lead the way david > >Herve >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- 40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Taurus. Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing bound for Europe via Panama Canal after completing engineroom refit. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 16:29:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87CCD16A420 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:29:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22A743D49 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:29:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 6B9B03000; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:29:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:29:07 -0500 To: Mark Linimon , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051018162907.GB14192@soaustin.net> References: <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> <1B8112AF-8C0E-4BA0-8D1C-DA6AD529F327@softweyr.com> <20051017153024.GA23494@arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr> <20051017212748.GD71766@isis.sigpipe.cz> <790a9fff0510171505i4010cc05yc30f67d459d1a0e4@mail.gmail.com> <20051018010446.GH71766@isis.sigpipe.cz> <20051018011616.GA57969@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051018153752.GB11790@soaustin.net> <20051018160725.GB87664@isis.sigpipe.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051018160725.GB87664@isis.sigpipe.cz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Cc: Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:29:13 -0000 On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 06:07:25PM +0200, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > > That highlights my point that IMHO we need two different functionalities: > > 'search' and 'browse'. 'make search' is barely adequate for searching. > > What are you missing from make search? I'll try and add it if it's > within reasonable bounds of complexity. e.g. searching when you don't know the exact spelling of the name. It's the "dictionary problem" -- how do you find the meaning of a word when you're not sure what the word is? > > We have nothing at all for browsing (unless you count reading an entire > > list of ports in hierarchy as 'browsing', which even an old command-line > > kind of guy like me thinks is crude). > > Can you define 'browsing'? "show me the ports that have something to do with the Internet"; "show me a list of plugins that work with Apache2". > How will the Wes' colleagues find it? You need to be able to find > a port to install it. If a port is required to make sense of the > structure, we need a bootstrap mechanism, like something in the > base. Like, ls. Don't be silly. Neither portupgrade nor cvsup are in base. People pkg_install them and then they're good to go. ls is _not_, by any stretch of the imagination, an adequate tool unless you already have a pretty good idea of what it is you're looking for. I really do not believe that anything with a UI belongs in base, and I believe that 'search' and 'browse', to be useful to the largest number of people, need to be UI-based; whether that's as applications, or from web pages, or more likely, both. > I would certainly prefer if we considered the fs structure to be the > primary interface (and treated it accordingly). I'm weird, I know. It's always going to be the 'primary' interface but if we don't build tools on top of it, it's simply going to limit the ports tree's usefulness to people who aren't as hardcore as you or I are. fwiw, I rely extensively on a little script that I wrote that greps things out of the contents of Makefiles. I am familiar with these kinds of tools. But, I mean, honestly, I think I can state without much fear of contradiction that I have as good a working knowledge of what's in the ports tree as anyone. Even so, the other day I went looking to see if there was any port specifically geared to synchronizing file systems on two peer machines (rather than, e.g., geared to just backing up a file system). It was really painful to do that, and it shouldn't have been. None of the existing tools are even vaguely adequate for that. mcl From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 16:46:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19ED916A41F; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:46:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C333043D49; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:46:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 50E202FFB; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:46:36 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:46:36 -0500 To: Vizion Message-ID: <20051018164636.GC14192@soaustin.net> References: <200510150015.j9F0ExKr085847@sakura.ninth-nine.com> <200510180730.56069.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> <20051018152124.GA16544@arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr> <200510180908.26798.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200510180908.26798.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:46:37 -0000 On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 09:08:22AM -0700, Vizion wrote: > was horrified that we were unable to counter the rise of MS because > the **ix community was unable to wrest control of its development > cycle from engineers and determine its future policy by reference > to user requirements. If you haven't noticed, almost everyone who provides FreeBSD to you is a _volunteer_. Most of them are engineers or developers or system administrators or the like. They work on FreeBSD mostly because they consider it A Neat Thing; there's no money, and not much glory, in it otherwise. If you, personally, want to set up an entity that develops a FreeBSD- based product with a feature set defined on a completely user-driven basis (e.g. something like a "Linux distro"), feel free to do so. IMHO you would be meeting a lot of people's needs. I would even hope that you could make a solid commercial entity out of it. If it had a good enough business model, I would probably even send you a resume. But in the meantime, while we try to _listen_ to what the users want, in the end of the day what gets _built_ is what any individual contributor wants to build -- for whatever their own motivations are. Simply repeating over and over again that the developers are to some extent "bad guys" for not immediately changing the way that the code is set up to suit you personally is not going to provide any extra positive motivation to these individuals. But I suspect this point is going to be lost on you, because you seem to want it free, and your way, and right now. To the extent that that's true, I predict that you are going to continue to be very frustrated and unhappy with FreeBSD -- or, for that matter, any other community-based effort. Let me know if you get that funding together, I honestly think it would be an interesting project. mcl From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 17:02:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C37E316A41F for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:02:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dukecmmtao01.coxmail.com (dukecmmtao01.coxmail.com [68.99.120.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF3F943D45 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:02:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dns1 ([64.58.171.82]) by dukecmmtao01.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051018170215.VEWP7298.dukecmmtao01.coxmail.com@dns1>; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:02:15 -0400 From: Vizion To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:57:05 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200510150015.j9F0ExKr085847@sakura.ninth-nine.com> <200510170844.06438.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> <20051018152611.GA11790@soaustin.net> In-Reply-To: <20051018152611.GA11790@soaustin.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510180957.07227.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> Cc: Mark Linimon Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:02:09 -0000 On Tuesday 18 October 2005 08:26, the author Mark Linimon contributed to the dialogue on- Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports: >On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 08:44:01AM -0700, Vizion wrote: >> You guys just do not get it. >> >> I have spent over 45 five years in the computer industry and am fed up >> with technologists who think in terms of their precious systems rather >> than on behalf of people that use them. > >What we 'get' is that you have your individual opinion that you have >stated, repeatedly. What you do not 'get' is that simply restating an >opinion does not necessarily make anyone agree with you. Agreed - so how can I invite those who do not agree with me to at least appreciate there is another way of looking at things? But what would be appreciated would be for responses that do not carry with them comments such as "we cannot make an exception" . Is there not an old old scientific guideline, for testing a hypothesis, which runs on the lines of "Create an exception to test the validity of the rule". The rule being tested seem to fit into two categories. I. We cannot make an exception - if that were true no one would ever do anything different for the first time -- Is there any reason why a serious thinker should not treat such a response as an unthinking knee jerk reaction? Perhaps what is meant by that remark is hold on - there may be some work involved.. which then invites a cost benefit analysis..but that did not happen. The second is that eclipse is no different from other applications in the ports tree and therefore should not be treated differently. You are right I have repeated the argument as to WHY it and other framework centric applications are different. I argue that because they are different and they do therefore test the assumptions that lie behind categorization by application type. The question to my mind is how do we adapt a valuable tool, the FreeBSD ports system, to deal with a computing phenomenon that was not around when its structure was devised during a time when all computer programs were applications. The simple solution is to give eclipse its own category.. to treat an exception as an exception. Can we not acknowledge it is different. Is there any reason why we cannot adapt to the difference? You chide me for repeating an argument while I ask why the need for a seperate category is , without any logical justification, just as frequently presented as a challenge to precedent which has to be defended against at all costs, rather than opportunity for the future. I at least do try to substantiate my arguments against opposing view points.. Unfortunately I have yet to hear any credible argument supporting the genralized notion "we cannot make exceptions" or indeed any argument which supports the notion that an exception free world is in any way desirable! david > >mcl >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- 40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Taurus. Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing bound for Europe via Panama Canal after completing engineroom refit. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 17:14:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6214A16A41F; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:14:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phelms1@mindspring.com) Received: from pop04.mail.atl.earthlink.net (pop04.mail.atl.earthlink.net [207.69.200.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9EC43D48; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:14:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phelms1@mindspring.com) Received: from dialup-4.228.72.239.dial1.denver1.level3.net ([4.228.72.239] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by pop04.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1ERv2W-0005VB-00; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:14:17 -0400 Message-ID: <43552DA8.1060002@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:15:20 -0600 From: Phil Helms User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Linimon References: <200510150015.j9F0ExKr085847@sakura.ninth-nine.com> <200510180730.56069.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> <20051018152124.GA16544@arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr> <200510180908.26798.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> <20051018164636.GC14192@soaustin.net> In-Reply-To: <20051018164636.GC14192@soaustin.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org, freebsd-java@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Vizion Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: phelms1@mindspring.com List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:14:20 -0000 It might be worth checking out the DragonFly BSD project: http://www.dragonflybsd.org/main/ Mark Linimon wrote: > > If you, personally, want to set up an entity that develops a FreeBSD- > based product with a feature set defined on a completely user-driven > basis (e.g. something like a "Linux distro"), feel free to do so. IMHO > you would be meeting a lot of people's needs. I would even hope that you > could make a solid commercial entity out of it. If it had a good enough > business model, I would probably even send you a resume. > -- Phil Helms phelms1@mindspring.com From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 17:26:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01DE116A41F; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:26:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com (lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com [68.99.120.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E76B43D46; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:26:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dns1 ([64.58.171.82]) by lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051018172620.VMIA17511.lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com@dns1>; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:26:20 -0400 From: Vizion To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:21:16 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200510150015.j9F0ExKr085847@sakura.ninth-nine.com> <200510180908.26798.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> <20051018164636.GC14192@soaustin.net> In-Reply-To: <20051018164636.GC14192@soaustin.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510181021.19354.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> Cc: Mark Linimon , freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org, freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:26:14 -0000 On Tuesday 18 October 2005 09:46, the author Mark Linimon contributed to the dialogue on- Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports: >On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 09:08:22AM -0700, Vizion wrote: >> was horrified that we were unable to counter the rise of MS because >> the **ix community was unable to wrest control of its development >> cycle from engineers and determine its future policy by reference >> to user requirements. > >If you haven't noticed, almost everyone who provides FreeBSD to you >is a _volunteer_. Most of them are engineers or developers or system >administrators or the like. They work on FreeBSD mostly because they >consider it A Neat Thing; there's no money, and not much glory, in it >otherwise. I know that -- from my own experience and contributions to the freebsd ports system. My view is that the validity of a particular point of view does not depend upon how much or how little someone has contributed to the community. Therefore I do not believe my contributions are relevant nor are arguemnts mande any better or any worse by the quality od contributions in other areas. I happen to believe that we are both, in this dialogue, making a contribution to FreeBSD. > >If you, personally, want to set up an entity that develops a FreeBSD- >based product with a feature set defined on a completely user-driven >basis (e.g. something like a "Linux distro"), feel free to do so. IMHO >you would be meeting a lot of people's needs. I would even hope that you >could make a solid commercial entity out of it. If it had a good enough >business model, I would probably even send you a resume. This sounds to me like the argument about if you have an argument with this governemnt you should go amnd live elsewhere.. sorry I do not buy that argument. I have been a freebsd user and contributor since its early days and am not in a hurry to go elsewhere. > >But in the meantime, while we try to _listen_ to what the users want, in >the end of the day what gets _built_ is what any individual contributor >wants to build -- for whatever their own motivations are. Agreed.. and this is where the dilemna comes in. The issue is do we build for users or for ourselves. To my mind there is an intelligent middle road. Something for ourselves and something for the wider commuity. That means having an eye on the needs of the users of tomorrow. This debate is to my mind a healthy oner fopr the FreeBSD community I will not make any apology for pursuing it-- because I believe it FreeBSD needs to concentrate on becoming more user focus and less technologically focussed. I aso make no apology for getting mad-- I do regard rule based responses such as -- we cant make an exception-- as narrow minded BS.. BUt hey that is not a good idea because {good reason focused on meeting user need} get my full attention! > >Simply repeating over and over again that the developers are to some >extent "bad guys" for not immediately changing the way that the code is >set up to suit you personally is not going to provide any extra positive >motivation to these individuals. Do not put me there -- I am a developer myself.. My comments are directed not at developers as a class - but at a mindset of certain developers who, with the best of intentions, see technology as a self sufficient discipline rather than seeing technology as a tool to serve the rest of the community. The former tends to look to the existing system to decide what is best to do next - the latter look to the needs of the external world. > >But I suspect this point is going to be lost on you, because you seem >to want it free, and your way, and right now. Please do not put words in my mouth -- I want decisions based upon the merit of the argument not on the inertia of precedent. So if I need to argue against the inertia will make no apology for doing so. >To the extent that that's >true, I predict that you are going to continue to be very frustrated and >unhappy with FreeBSD -- or, for that matter, any other community-based >effort. Who says I am unhappy with freebsd. after all I use it extensively and am installing it on another twelve machines during the next year. I find the community mutually helpful and enjoy it. I do get frustrated at times -- but frustration is good - you need to realise that my energy comes from a realization that we need to make good things even better - and not get hung up on yesterdays ways of doing things > >Let me know if you get that funding together, I honestly think it would >be an interesting project. Thanks -- 40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Taurus. Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing bound for Europe via Panama Canal after completing engineroom refit. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 20:08:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A301316A41F for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 20:08:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: from gwyn.kn-bremen.de (gwyn.kn-bremen.de [212.63.36.242]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E11DD43D48 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 20:08:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: from gwyn.kn-bremen.de (gwyn [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.kn-bremen.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id j9IK7q6X026410; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:07:52 +0200 Received: from saturn.kn-bremen.de (uucp@localhost) by gwyn.kn-bremen.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with UUCP id j9IK7qNB026406; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:07:52 +0200 Received: from saturn.kn-bremen.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9IK5lN8026863; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:05:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: (from nox@localhost) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j9IK5kiW026862; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:05:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nox) From: Juergen Lock Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:05:44 +0200 To: Robert Millan Message-ID: <20051018200544.GA26528@saturn.kn-bremen.de> Mail-Followup-To: Robert Millan , ports@freebsd.org References: <20051018140137.GA16159@aragorn> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051018140137.GA16159@aragorn> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gzip-like CLI wrapper for p7zip X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 20:08:01 -0000 On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 04:01:37PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > > Hi, > > I a small gzip-like wrapper for p7zip. The upstream developers don't seem to > like the idea, but it is going to be included in Debian, and I thought you might > want to provide it as well. For details, see: > > http://bugs.debian.org/334106 > > (the script is attached there) > > We intend to ask the gnu tar maintainers for a p7zip flag. Having this script > in the FreeBSD port would help in that regard. Well I could add it to the port (see below), but I think the need for tempfiles is unfortunate because it can cause problems like /tmp filling up. Maybe the 7z lib that cloop uses [1] [2] could be used for a `real' tempfile-less p7zip? (I dont know the 7z file format, maybe a new format has to be created in order to require no seeking, meaning the extension would have to be changed as well. (like gzip had to do with the zip format.) so maybe we shouldn't standardize on a p7zip command just yet...) [1] http://advancemame.sourceforge.net/comp-readme.html [2] http://www.morphix.org/debian/source/cloop_2.01-6.tar.gz Index: Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/ports/archivers/p7zip/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.13 diff -u -r1.13 Makefile --- Makefile 15 Oct 2005 12:47:26 -0000 1.13 +++ Makefile 18 Oct 2005 18:55:50 -0000 @@ -7,6 +7,7 @@ PORTNAME= p7zip PORTVERSION= 4.29 +PORTREVISION= 1 CATEGORIES= archivers MASTER_SITES= ${MASTER_SITE_SOURCEFORGE} MASTER_SITE_SUBDIR= p7zip @@ -65,6 +66,7 @@ .endfor ${INSTALL_SCRIPT} ${FILESDIR}/7z ${PREFIX}/bin ${LN} -sf 7z ${PREFIX}/bin/7za + ${INSTALL_SCRIPT} ${FILESDIR}/p7zip ${PREFIX}/bin .if !defined(WITHOUT_MODULES) .for f in Codecs Formats ${MKDIR} ${DLLDIR}/${f} Index: pkg-plist =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/ports/archivers/p7zip/pkg-plist,v retrieving revision 1.6 diff -u -r1.6 pkg-plist --- pkg-plist 15 Oct 2005 12:47:26 -0000 1.6 +++ pkg-plist 18 Oct 2005 18:56:38 -0000 @@ -1,5 +1,6 @@ @unexec /bin/rm -f %D/bin/7za bin/7z +bin/p7zip @exec /bin/ln -sf 7z %D/bin/7za %%MODULES%%libexec/p7zip/7z libexec/p7zip/7za Index: files/p7zip @@ -0,0 +1,74 @@ +#!/bin/sh +# gzip-like CLI wrapper for p7zip +set -e + +compress=true +file= + +usage () + { + echo "Usage: $0 [-d] [-h|--help] [file]" + exit 1 + } + +while [ "$#" != "0" ] ; do + case "$1" in + -d) compress=false ;; + -c) echo "$0: ignoring $1 option (not yet implemented)" ;; + -h|--help) usage ;; + *) + if [ "${file}" = "" ] ; then + file="$1" + else + usage + fi + ;; + esac + shift +done + +# make sure they're present, before we screw up +for i in mktemp 7z rm cat tty ; do + if ! which $i > /dev/null ; then + echo "$0: $i: command not found" + exit 1 + fi +done + +if [ "${file}" != "" ] ; then + if ${compress} ; then + 7z a ${file}.7z ${file} + rm ${file} + else + case ${file} in + *.7z) + 7z x ${file} + rm ${file} + ;; + *) + echo "$0: ${file}: unknown suffix -- ignored" + ;; + esac + fi + exit 0 +fi + +P7ZTMP=${TMP:-/tmp} +tmp=`mktemp ${P7ZTMP}/p7z.XXXXXXXX` +trap "rm -f ${tmp}" 0 + +if ${compress} ; then + if tty > /dev/null ; then + echo "$0: compressed data not written to a terminal." + echo "For help, type: $0 -h" + exit 1 + fi + rm -f ${tmp} + 7z a ${tmp} -si >/dev/null + cat ${tmp} +else + cat > ${tmp} + 7z x ${tmp} -so 2>/dev/null | cat +fi + +rm -f ${tmp} From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 20:55:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68A9016A41F for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 20:55:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@builder.freebsd.org) Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.freebsd.org [216.136.204.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5CA643D45 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 20:55:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@builder.freebsd.org) Received: from builder.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by builder.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9IKtImV041053 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 20:55:18 GMT (envelope-from kris@builder.freebsd.org) Received: (from kris@localhost) by builder.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9IKtIkg041052 for ports@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 20:55:18 GMT (envelope-from kris) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 20:55:18 GMT From: Kris Kennaway Message-Id: <200510182055.j9IKtIkg041052@builder.freebsd.org> To: ports@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: INDEX build failed for 4.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 20:55:19 -0000 INDEX build failed with errors: Generating INDEX - please wait.. Done. make_index: ja-deepforest-1.0a: no entry for /usr/ports/japanese/libimg make_index: ja-muggy-1.3.1: no entry for /usr/ports/japanese/libimg make_index: ja-jgv-0.2a: no entry for /usr/ports/japanese/libimg make_index: ja-seizedesktop-0.1a: no entry for /usr/ports/japanese/libimg make_index: ja-binder-1.3: no entry for /usr/ports/japanese/libimg Committers on the hook: ache arved brooks erwin garga jeh jhb lofi pav sergei simon thierry vs Most recent CVS update was: U MOVED U audio/slimserver/Makefile U audio/slimserver/files/patch-Bin_build-perl-modules.pl U audio/timidity++-emacs/Makefile U audio/timidity++-slang/Makefile U audio/xmms-imms/Makefile U audio/xmms-imms/files/patch-vars.mk.in U benchmarks/dbench/Makefile U benchmarks/dbench/distinfo U benchmarks/dbench/pkg-plist U benchmarks/dbench/files/patch-configure U comms/aldo/Makefile U devel/bglibs/Makefile U devel/bglibs/files/patch-clockgettime U devel/libcapsinetwork/Makefile U devel/libcapsinetwork/distinfo U devel/libcapsinetwork/files/patch-configure U devel/p5-Devel-ptkdb/Makefile U devel/p5-Devel-ptkdb/distinfo U devel/p5-Test-LectroTest/Makefile U devel/p5-Test-LectroTest/distinfo U devel/p5-Test-LectroTest/pkg-plist U devel/p5-Test-NoWarnings/Makefile U devel/p5-Test-NoWarnings/distinfo U editors/mined/Makefile U games/annelid/Makefile U games/monopd/Makefile U games/monopd/distinfo U graphics/hpoj/files/patch-Makefile.in U irc/bobot++/Makefile U irc/bobot++/distinfo U japanese/Makefile U japanese/timidity++-slang/Makefile U mail/Makefile U multimedia/xmms/Makefile U multimedia/xmms/distinfo U net/p5-Net-Whois-Raw/Makefile U net/p5-Net-Whois-Raw/distinfo U net/tableutil/Makefile U net/tableutil/distinfo U news/rawdog/Makefile U news/rawdog/distinfo U palm/Makefile U print/foomatic-db-hpijs/Makefile U print/foomatic-db-hpijs/files/patch-configure U security/libgcrypt/Makefile U security/libgcrypt/distinfo U security/p5-Net-OpenID-Server/Makefile U security/p5-Net-OpenID-Server/distinfo U security/pinentry/Makefile U security/prelude-lml/Makefile U security/prelude-lml/distinfo U security/prelude-lml/pkg-plist U security/snort/Makefile U security/snort/distinfo U security/uvscan-dat/Makefile U security/uvscan-dat/distinfo U security/vuxml/vuln.xml U sysutils/relaxconf/Makefile U www/apache13/Makefile U www/apache13/distinfo U www/apache13/pkg-plist From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 21:30:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72A2E16A41F; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:30:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vkushnir@i.kiev.ua) Received: from horse.iptelecom.net.ua (horse.iptelecom.net.ua [212.9.224.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F6A43D45; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:30:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vkushnir@i.kiev.ua) Received: from h146.243.159.dialup.iptcom.net ([213.159.243.146]:16323 "EHLO kushnir1.kiev.ua" ident: "SOCKFAULT1" whoson: "vkushnir") by horse.iptelecom.net.ua with ESMTP id S1219487AbVJRVa2 (ORCPT + 1 other); Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:30:28 +0300 Received: from kushnir1.kiev.ua (kushnir1.kiev.ua [10.0.0.1]) by kushnir1.kiev.ua (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9ILUO1q074662; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:30:24 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from vkushnir@i.kiev.ua) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:30:24 +0300 (EEST) From: Vladimir Kushnir X-X-Sender: vkushnir@kushnir1.kiev.ua To: Roman Bogorodskiy In-Reply-To: <20051018035955.GA650@lame.novel.ru> Message-ID: <20051019002436.T73530@kushnir1.kiev.ua> References: <20051017160446.GA16644@lame.novel.ru> <20051018003336.V1230@kushnir1.kiev.ua> <20051018035955.GA650@lame.novel.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: ports@freebsd.org, "Andrew P." , Bill Schoolcraft Subject: Re: xmms-wma on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:30:31 -0000 On Tue, 18 Oct 2005, Roman Bogorodskiy wrote: > Vladimir wrote: > >> For me, it works (patch doesn't apply cleanly but the method is precisely >> the same) for audio/bmp-wma. With audio/xmms-wma it somehow doesn't pick >> up CFLAGS :-( > > Ok, here's a patch for bmp-wma which should apply clean: > http://people.freebsd.org/~novel/patches/freebsd/port.bmp-wma.amd64.diff > > As for xmms-wma, can you post output of `make -V CFLAGS' in xmms-wma > port dir? > > Roman Bogorodskiy > CFLAGS itself is perfectly all right: make -v CFLAGS -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=athlon64 -fpic -DPIC It's just that this doesn't propagate to ffmpeg-strip-wma's Makefile. If I add a line to post-extract target (plus your patch, of course) post-extract: @${REINPLACE_CMD} -e 's|gcc|${CC}|g' ${WRKSRC}/Makefile.inc + @${REINPLACE_CMD} -e 's|CFLAGS :=|CFLAGS := ${CFLAGS}|g' ${WRKSRC}/Makefile.inc @${REINPLACE_CMD} -e 's|gcc|${CC}|g' ${WRKSRC}/ffmpeg-strip-wma/config.mak then everything builds. Regards, Vladimir From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 21:33:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 772E716A41F; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:33:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gm@mailbag.co.za) Received: from smtp01.isdsl.net (smtp01.isdsl.net [196.26.208.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C70E843D46; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:33:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gm@mailbag.co.za) Received: from storm.ipnetsa.co.za (c1-254-6.tpr.isadsl.co.za [196.209.85.254]) by smtp01.isdsl.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7437D2E31B; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:33:21 +0200 (SAST) Received: from [10.0.0.50] (helo=limelight) by storm.ipnetsa.co.za with esmtp (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1ERz4i-0000wD-3d; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:32:48 +0200 From: "Gawie Marais" To: Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:32:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcXUK2ePDX37HX3jT4WcL3DXt0nYHw== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Message-Id: <20051018213321.7437D2E31B@smtp01.isdsl.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD Port: p5-Mysql-modules-1.2219 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gm@mailbag.co.za List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:33:26 -0000 Hi I get a nasty error when trying to install this port. I have also submitted a bug through the web site, but this is critical for us to get our mailing list working again.. If you have the time, please send us some comments on a way to get the port installed... compile error :- [root@node p5-Mysql]# make install ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found ===> Extracting for p5-Mysql-modules-1.2219 => Checksum OK for Msql-Mysql-modules-1.2219.tar.gz. ===> p5-Mysql-modules-1.2219 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.6 - found ===> Patching for p5-Mysql-modules-1.2219 ===> p5-Mysql-modules-1.2219 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.6 - found ===> p5-Mysql-modules-1.2219 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/Data/ShowTable.pm - found ===> p5-Mysql-modules-1.2219 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/mach/DBI.pm - found ===> p5-Mysql-modules-1.2219 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.6 - found ===> p5-Mysql-modules-1.2219 depends on shared library: mysqlclient.14 - found ===> Configuring for p5-Mysql-modules-1.2219 Creating files for MySQL .................... WARNING: PL_FILES takes a hash reference not a array reference. Please inform the author. Checking if your kit is complete... Looks good Using DBI 1.48 (for perl 5.008006 on i386-freebsd-64int) installed in /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/mach/auto/DBI/ Writing Makefile for DBD::mysql Writing Makefile for Msql-Mysql-modules ===> Building for p5-Mysql-modules-1.2219 /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.6 -Iblib/arch -Iblib/lib -I/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.6/mach -I/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.6 -Ilib -MExtUtils::PerlPP -e ppp "dbd/dbimon.in" "dbimon" "lib/DBD/mysql/Install/Config.pm" /usr/local/bin/pod2text mysql/lib/DBD/mysql.pm >README cp lib/DBD/mysql.pm ../blib/lib/DBD/mysql.pm cp lib/Mysql.pm ../blib/lib/Mysql.pm cp lib/Mysql/Statement.pm ../blib/lib/Mysql/Statement.pm cp lib/Bundle/DBD/mysql.pm ../blib/lib/Bundle/DBD/mysql.pm cc -c -I/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/mach/auto/DBI -I/usr/local/include/mysql -I../dbd -I/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/mach/auto/DBI -I/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.6/mach -DAPPLLIB_EXP="/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.6/BSDPAN" -DHAS_FPSETMASK -DHAS_FLOATINGPOINT_H -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -I/usr/local/include -O -pipe -DVERSION=\"2.0419\" -DXS_VERSION=\"2.0419\" -DPIC -fPIC "-I/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.6/mach/CORE" -DDBD_MYSQL dbdimp.c dbdimp.c: In function `mysql_db_login': dbdimp.c:724: warning: passing arg 3 of `mysql_dr_error' discards qualifiers from pointer target type dbdimp.c: In function `mysql_db_FETCH_attrib': dbdimp.c:1013: warning: initialization discards qualifiers from pointer target type dbdimp.c:1019: warning: initialization discards qualifiers from pointer target type dbdimp.c:1027: warning: initialization discards qualifiers from pointer target type dbdimp.c:1048: warning: initialization discards qualifiers from pointer target type dbdimp.c:1052: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size dbdimp.c:1059: warning: initialization discards qualifiers from pointer target type dbdimp.c: In function `mysql_st_internal_execute': dbdimp.c:1203: warning: passing arg 3 of `mysql_dr_error' discards qualifiers from pointer target type dbdimp.c:1264: warning: passing arg 3 of `mysql_dr_error' discards qualifiers from pointer target type dbdimp.c: In function `mysql_st_fetch': dbdimp.c:1427: warning: passing arg 3 of `mysql_dr_error' discards qualifiers from pointer target type dbdimp.c: In function `mysql_st_FETCH_attrib': dbdimp.c:1867: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size dbdimp.c:1983: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size dbdimp.c:2052: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size dbdimp.c: In function `MysqlReconnect': dbdimp.c:2163: warning: passing arg 3 of `mysql_dr_error' discards qualifiers from pointer target type /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.6 -p -e "s/~DRIVER~/mysql/g" /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/mach/auto/DBI//Driver.xst > mysql.xsi /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.6 /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.6/ExtUtils/xsubpp -typemap /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.6/ExtUtils/typemap mysql.xs > mysql.xsc && mv mysql.xsc mysql.c Warning: duplicate function definition 'do' detected in mysql.xs, line 281 Warning: duplicate function definition 'rows' detected in mysql.xs, line 407 cc -c -I/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/mach/auto/DBI -I/usr/local/include/mysql -I../dbd -I/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/mach/auto/DBI -I/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.6/mach -DAPPLLIB_EXP="/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.6/BSDPAN" -DHAS_FPSETMASK -DHAS_FLOATINGPOINT_H -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -I/usr/local/include -O -pipe -DVERSION=\"2.0419\" -DXS_VERSION=\"2.0419\" -DPIC -fPIC "-I/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.6/mach/CORE" -DDBD_MYSQL mysql.c mysql.xs: In function `XS_DBD__mysql__dr__ListDBs': mysql.xs:98: warning: passing arg 3 of `mysql_dr_error' discards qualifiers from pointer target type mysql.xs: In function `XS_DBD__mysql__dr__admin_internal': mysql.xs:138: warning: passing arg 3 of `mysql_dr_error' discards qualifiers from pointer target type mysql.xs:144: error: too few arguments to function `mysql_shutdown' mysql.xs:186: warning: passing arg 3 of `mysql_dr_error' discards qualifiers from pointer target type mysql.xs: In function `XS_DBD__mysql__db__ListDBs': mysql.xs:250: warning: passing arg 3 of `mysql_dr_error' discards qualifiers from pointer target type mysql.xs: In function `XS_DBD__mysql__db__ListTables': mysql.xs:271: warning: passing arg 3 of `mysql_dr_error' discards qualifiers from pointer target type *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/p5-Mysql/work/Msql-Mysql-modules-1.2219/mysql. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/p5-Mysql/work/Msql-Mysql-modules-1.2219. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/p5-Mysql. [root@node p5-Mysql]# Thanx Gawie Marais From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 19 00:18:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA57B16A41F; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:18:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-security@auscert.org.au) Received: from titania.auscert.org.au (gw.auscert.org.au [203.5.112.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9A143D45; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:18:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-security@auscert.org.au) Received: from app.auscert.org.au (app [10.0.1.192]) by titania.auscert.org.au (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j9J0I5io057155; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:18:05 +1000 (EST) Received: from app.auscert.org.au (localhost.auscert.org.au [127.0.0.1]) by app.auscert.org.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9J0Iqaj057044; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:18:52 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from freebsd-security@auscert.org.au) Message-Id: <200510190018.j9J0Iqaj057044@app.auscert.org.au> To: sf@FreeBSD.org from: freebsd-security@auscert.org.au Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:18:52 +1000 Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: wget/curl vul X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:18:55 -0000 Hi, Are plans afoot to upgrade wget soon? www.idefense.com/application/poi/display?id=322&type=vulnerabilities cheers, -- Joel Hatton -- Security Analyst | Hotline: +61 7 3365 4417 AusCERT - Australia's national CERT | Fax: +61 7 3365 7031 The University of Queensland | WWW: www.auscert.org.au Qld 4072 Australia | Email: auscert@auscert.org.au From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 19 00:55:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 428B516A41F for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:55:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@builder.freebsd.org) Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.freebsd.org [216.136.204.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F5A43D45 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:55:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@builder.freebsd.org) Received: from builder.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by builder.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9J0tQkx008069 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:55:26 GMT (envelope-from kris@builder.freebsd.org) Received: (from kris@localhost) by builder.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9J0tQTI008068 for ports@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:55:26 GMT (envelope-from kris) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:55:26 GMT From: Kris Kennaway Message-Id: <200510190055.j9J0tQTI008068@builder.freebsd.org> To: ports@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: INDEX build failed for 4.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:55:27 -0000 INDEX build failed with errors: Generating INDEX - please wait.. Done. make_index: ja-deepforest-1.0a: no entry for /usr/ports/japanese/libimg make_index: ja-muggy-1.3.1: no entry for /usr/ports/japanese/libimg make_index: ja-jgv-0.2a: no entry for /usr/ports/japanese/libimg make_index: ja-seizedesktop-0.1a: no entry for /usr/ports/japanese/libimg make_index: ja-binder-1.3: no entry for /usr/ports/japanese/libimg Committers on the hook: ache ahze arved brooks ehaupt erwin flz garga glewis jeh jhb lofi mi oliver pav sergei simon thierry vs Most recent CVS update was: U MOVED U cad/brlcad/Makefile U cad/brlcad/distinfo U cad/brlcad/pkg-descr U deskutils/nag/Makefile U deskutils/nag/distinfo U devel/Makefile U devel/hs-haddock/Makefile U devel/libdaemon/Makefile U devel/libdaemon/distinfo U devel/libdaemon/pkg-descr U devel/libdaemon/pkg-plist U devel/libdaemon/files/patch-libdaemond_dfork.c U graphics/djvulibre/Makefile U graphics/djvulibre/distinfo U graphics/djvulibre/pkg-plist U graphics/ivtools/Makefile U graphics/sage/Makefile U graphics/sage/distinfo U graphics/sage/pkg-plist U java/bouncycastle/Makefile U java/bouncycastle/distinfo U java/bouncycastle/pkg-plist U mail/imp/Makefile U mail/imp/distinfo U mail/imp/pkg-plist U mail/turba/Makefile U mail/turba/distinfo U mail/turba/files/patch-config::sources.php.dist U multimedia/lxdvdrip/Makefile U multimedia/lxdvdrip/distinfo U multimedia/lxdvdrip/pkg-plist U net-mgmt/nrg/Makefile U net-mgmt/nrg/distinfo U net-mgmt/nrg/pkg-plist U net-mgmt/nrg/files/nrg-apcupsdstat.patch U net-mgmt/nrg/files/patch-Makefile.in U net-mgmt/nrg/files/patch-examples U sysutils/tinybsd/Makefile U sysutils/tinybsd/distinfo U textproc/Makefile U textproc/dom4j/Makefile U textproc/dom4j/distinfo U textproc/dom4j/pkg-descr U www/arena/Makefile From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 19 04:40:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9230A16A41F for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 04:40:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@thesnodgrass.com) Received: from fed1rmmtao12.cox.net (fed1rmmtao12.cox.net [68.230.241.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E81243D55 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 04:40:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@thesnodgrass.com) Received: from [192.168.1.33] (really [68.8.226.201]) by fed1rmmtao12.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051019044013.DDHZ2059.fed1rmmtao12.cox.net@[192.168.1.33]> for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:40:13 -0400 Message-ID: <4355CE54.1080006@thesnodgrass.com> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:40:52 -0700 From: j snod User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.4.1 (Windows/20051018) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ports@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: pkgdb: biology/p5-Bio-Das failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 04:40:45 -0000 I'm getting the following error when running pkg_db. I have just cvsupped ports-all. This is on an i686, I'll post more system info below: root@oso: [/var/db] pkgdb -F ---> Checking the package registry database [Updating the pkgdb in /var/db/pkg ... - 31 packages found (-27 +7) (...)....... done] Stale dependency: autoconf-2.13.000227_5 -> perl-5.6.1_15 (lang/perl5): Updating the ports index ... Generating INDEX.tmp - please wait.."Makefile", line 76: warning: String comparison operator should be either == or != "Makefile", line 76: Malformed conditional ((${PERL_LEVEL} < 500601)) "Makefile", line 76: Missing dependency operator "Makefile", line 78: if-less endif "Makefile", line 78: Need an operator make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue ===> biology/p5-Bio-Das failed *** Error code 1 1 error ******************************************************************** Before reporting this error, verify that you are running a supported version of FreeBSD (see http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/) and that you have a complete and up-to-date ports collection. (INDEX builds are not supported with partial or out-of-date ports collections -- in particular, if you are using cvsup, you must cvsup the "ports-all" collection, and have no "refuse" files.) If that is the case, then report the failure to ports@FreeBSD.org together with relevant details of your ports configuration (including FreeBSD version, your architecture, your environment, and your /etc/make.conf settings, especially compiler flags and WITH/WITHOUT settings). Note: the latest pre-generated version of INDEX may be fetched automatically with "make fetchindex". ******************************************************************** *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports. failed to generate INDEX! index generation error database file error My pkg_info is: autoconf-2.13.000227_5 Automatically configure source code on many Un*x platforms automake-1.4.6_1 GNU Standards-compliant Makefile generator (legacy version bash-2.05b.007_2 The GNU Bourne Again Shell bison-1.75_2 A parser generator from FSF, (mostly) compatible with Yacc cvsup-without-gui-16.1h General network file distribution system optimized for CVS expat-1.95.8 XML 1.0 parser written in C fastest_cvsup-0.2.8 Finds fastest CVSup server fontconfig-2.2.3,1 An XML-based font configuration API for X Windows freetype2-2.1.7_3 A free and portable TrueType font rendering engine gettext-0.13.1_1 GNU gettext package gmake-3.80_2 GNU version of 'make' utility javavmwrapper-1.5 Wrapper script for various Java Virtual Machines jbigkit-1.6 Lossless compression for bi-level images such as scanned pa jpeg-6b_3 IJG's jpeg compression utilities libiconv-1.8_2 A character set conversion library libtool-1.3.5_2 Generic shared library support script (version 1.3) libtool-1.5.8 Generic shared library support script (version 1.5) lynx-2.8.4.1c A non-graphical, text-based World-Wide Web client m4-1.4.1 GNU m4 mutt-1.4.2.1_1 The Mongrel of Mail User Agents (part Elm, Pine, Mush, mh, netpbm-10.24 A toolkit for conversion of images between different format nspr-4.4.1_1 A platform-neutral API for system level and libc like funct perl-5.8.5 Practical Extraction and Report Language pkgconfig-0.15.0_1 A utility used to retrieve information about installed libr png-1.2.6 Library for manipulating PNG images portupgrade-20040701_3 FreeBSD ports/packages administration and management tool s ruby-1.8.2.p2_1 An object-oriented interpreted scripting language ruby18-bdb1-0.2.2 Ruby interface to Berkeley DB revision 1.8x with full featu tiff-3.6.1_3 Tools and library routines for working with TIFF images unzip-5.51 List, test and extract compressed files in a ZIP archive zip-2.3_1 Create/update ZIP files compatible with pkzip Running this: FreeBSD oso.bajabound.com 5.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Jun 5 02:55:42 GMT 2003 root@wv1u.btc.adaptec.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 I have the following in my /etc/make.conf: CPUTYPE= i686 CFLAGS= -O2 –pipe –funroll-loops COPTFLAGS= -O2 –pipe –funroll-loops SUP_UPDATE= yes SUP= /usr/local/bin/cvsup SUPFLAGS= -g –L 2 SUPHOST= cvsup4.freebsd.org SUPFILE= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile PORTSSUPFILE= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 19 05:07:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3507516A41F for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 05:07:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@builder.freebsd.org) Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.freebsd.org [216.136.204.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0671A43D53 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 05:07:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@builder.freebsd.org) Received: from builder.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by builder.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9J57oto080915 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 05:07:50 GMT (envelope-from kris@builder.freebsd.org) Received: (from kris@localhost) by builder.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9J57og6080914 for ports@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 05:07:50 GMT (envelope-from kris) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 05:07:50 GMT From: Kris Kennaway Message-Id: <200510190507.j9J57og6080914@builder.freebsd.org> To: ports@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: INDEX build failed for 4.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 05:07:51 -0000 INDEX build failed with errors: Generating INDEX - please wait.. Done. make_index: ja-deepforest-1.0a: no entry for /usr/ports/japanese/libimg make_index: ja-muggy-1.3.1: no entry for /usr/ports/japanese/libimg make_index: ja-jgv-0.2a: no entry for /usr/ports/japanese/libimg make_index: ja-seizedesktop-0.1a: no entry for /usr/ports/japanese/libimg make_index: ja-binder-1.3: no entry for /usr/ports/japanese/libimg Committers on the hook: ache ahze arved brooks clsung ehaupt erwin flz garga glewis ijliao jeh jhb kevlo lioux lofi mi mikeh oliver pav rodrigc sergei simon thierry vs Most recent CVS update was: U comms/lirc/Makefile U comms/lirc/distinfo U comms/lirc/pkg-plist U comms/lirc/files/patch-configure U comms/lirc/files/patch-daemons::serial.c U comms/lirc/files/patch-drivers::lirc.h U net/centericq/Makefile U net/jsch/Makefile U net/jsch/distinfo U sysutils/synergy/Makefile U sysutils/synergy/distinfo U sysutils/xfsprogs/Makefile U www/py-imdbpy/Makefile U www/py-imdbpy/distinfo U www/py-imdbpy/pkg-plist From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 19 07:04:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8011516A41F for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 07:04:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from udo@ebi.xs4all.nl) Received: from mail-in-05.arcor-online.net (mail-in-05.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1341B43D46 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 07:04:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from udo@ebi.xs4all.nl) Received: from mail-in-08-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-08-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.20]) by mail-in-05.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68BD0AD803 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:04:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail-in-05.arcor-online.net (mail-in-05.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.45]) by mail-in-08-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AABB26AC9 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:04:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.2.23] (dslc-213-023-132-246.pools.arcor-ip.net [213.23.132.246]) (Authenticated sender: mka_fuhrmann@arcor.de) by mail-in-05.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 325B5AD816 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:04:08 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4355EFE9.8000403@ebi.xs4all.nl> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:04:09 +0200 From: Udo Mueller User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; de-AT; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051016 X-Accept-Language: de, de-de, zh, zh-cn, zh-tw MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ports@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: FreeBSD Port: graphics/djvulibre X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 07:04:10 -0000 Will not complie at FreeBSD 6.0 RC1, sorry. Here's the error output: __________________snip ./djvups.cpp: In function `void handle(int)': ./djvups.cpp:125: error: 'const union ddjvu_message_s' has no member named 'm_progress' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/djvulibre/work/djvulibre-3.5.15/tools. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/djvulibre/work/djvulibre-3.5.15. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/djvulibre. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade70433.0 make ** Fix the problem and try again. ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) ! graphics/djvulibre (djvulibre-3.5.14_1) (unknown build error) ---> Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed _____________snap Hope it'll help you. Regards, Udo. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 19 08:23:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3A7F16A41F; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 08:23:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from past@ebs.gr) Received: from fly.ebs.gr (fly.ebs.gr [62.103.84.177]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D99FA43D45; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 08:23:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from past@ebs.gr) Received: from ebs.gr (root@hal.ebs.gr [10.1.1.2]) by fly.ebs.gr (8.12.9p1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9J8NY9V045810; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:23:34 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from past@ebs.gr) Received: from [10.1.1.158] (pc158.ebs.gr [10.1.1.158]) by ebs.gr (8.13.3/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9J8Njks084252; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:23:46 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from past@ebs.gr) Message-ID: <4356026F.9020000@ebs.gr> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:23:11 +0300 From: Panagiotis Astithas Organization: EBS Ltd. User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051008) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vizion References: <200510150015.j9F0ExKr085847@sakura.ninth-nine.com> <4354DF92.4050402@ebs.gr> <200510180730.56069.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> <200510180856.27998.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200510180856.27998.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org, Wes Peters , Scot Hetzel , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 08:23:37 -0000 Vizion wrote: > On Tuesday 18 October 2005 07:30, the author Vizion contributed to the > dialogue on- > Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports: > > >>On Tuesday 18 October 2005 04:42, the author Panagiotis Astithas >>contributed to the dialogue on- >> >>Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports: >> >>>Vizion wrote: >>> >>>>On Monday 17 October 2005 15:05, the author Scot Hetzel contributed to >>>>the dialogue on- >>>> >>>> Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports: >>>> >>>>>On 10/17/05, Roman Neuhauser wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Wes said: "I have to resort to 'make search'" which presumably means >>>>>> he'd prefer to just ls /usr/ports/$emacs_category; while 'make >>>>>> search' is a bearable interface (FMPOV), you can't beat a ls. >>>>>> >>>>>> Hey, what about materialized virtual categories? A bunch of >>>>>> symlinks, and everyone's happy. Or is that too much for CVS? >>>>> >>>>>It would probably be too much for CVS to handle, instead someone could >>>>>modify bsd.port.mk to create the virtual category directories and then >>>>>symbolicly link the ports into these categories. >>>>> >>>>>The following could be added to bsd.port.mk >>>>> >>>>>virtualport: >>>>>.for CATEGORY in ${CATEGORIES} >>>>>.if not exist ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY} >>>>> mkdir ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY} >>>>>.endif >>>>>.if not exist ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY}/${PORTNAME} >>>>> ln -s ${.CURDIR} ${PORTSDIR}/${CATEGORY}/${PORTNAME} >>>>>.endif >>>>>.endfor >>>>> >>>>>which would add the link for a specific port. The we would need to >>>>>add a virtualports target (bsd.subdir.mk?) that would decend thru all >>>>>the ports creating all the symbolic links (similar to the "make >>>>>readmes" target used in /usr/ports/ ). >>>>> >>>>>Also there would need to be another target that would remove all the >>>>>symbolic links, that way you could re-create them without worrying >>>>>about removed symbolic links pointing to non-existant ports. >>>>> >>>>>NOTE: Non of this code has been tested. If you want this feature, work >>>>>on improving the code and submitting it as a patch to the PR database >>>>>for Ports Managers to accept/reject. >>>>> >>>>>Scot >>>> >>>>Would this provide an opportunity to have for example: >>>>/usr/ports/eclipse >>>>/usr/ports/eclipse/plugins/ >>>> >>>>so that the plugins could be selected for installation from make config >>>>in /usr/ports and manage the installation of the plugins (rather similar >>>>to what happens for php)? >>> >>>This can be done today, with an eclipse-plugins meta-port, similar to >>>the php5-extensions one. I may even find some time to work on it. >> >>Wow >> >>That is great >> >>That is what I have been arguing for for three months!! >> >>david > > > BTW > > If you get time would there be any chance you could set up the localized > plugin archive so that it conforms with Eclipse's expectation for plugin > installation. > > Up until now, on a multi-user system, each user has to bring plugins into > their individual work directories. This has led to different users > inadvertently working with different plugin versions. One of the reasons I > want to get the /usr/ports/eclipse/ and /usrports/eclipse/plugins hierarchies > working is to have a systenatic method of ensuring devellopers are working > with identical plugin versions. The ports tree system provides an ideal > method of monitoring the plugins. I'm not sure I understand what you are saying here. Eclipse plugins are stored in the 'features' and 'plugins' subdirectories. They are also cached in the .eclipse folder in the user's home directory. If a user somehow ends up with a corrupted cache, there is always the -clean invocation of eclipse that recreates it. If the problem you encountered stems from the default permissions on the eclipse directory, you could always change them to fit your needs (I know I do). Cheers, Panagiotis From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 19 08:45:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E700B16A421 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 08:45:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@builder.freebsd.org) Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.freebsd.org [216.136.204.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B62FB43D49 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 08:45:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@builder.freebsd.org) Received: from builder.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by builder.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9J8jvSQ053864 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 08:45:57 GMT (envelope-from kris@builder.freebsd.org) Received: (from kris@localhost) by builder.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9J8jv5G053863 for ports@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 08:45:57 GMT (envelope-from kris) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 08:45:57 GMT From: Kris Kennaway Message-Id: <200510190845.j9J8jv5G053863@builder.freebsd.org> To: ports@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: INDEX build failed for 4.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 08:45:58 -0000 INDEX build failed with errors: Generating INDEX - please wait..ja-binder-1.3: "/local0/tmp/kris/tindex/ports/japanese/libimg" non-existent -- dependency list incomplete ===> japanese/binder failed *** Error code 1 *** Error code 1 Stop in /local0/tmp/kris/tindex/ports. *** Error code 1 Stop in /local0/tmp/kris/tindex/ports. 1 error Committers on the hook: ache ahze arved barner brooks clsung daichi demon ehaupt erwin flz garga glewis ijliao jeh jhb kevlo linimon lioux lofi mi mikeh oliver pav rodrigc sergei simon thierry tobez vs Most recent CVS update was: U databases/sqlrelay/Makefile U databases/sqlrelay/Makefile.common U databases/sqlrelay/distinfo U devel/florist/Makefile U devel/florist/pkg-descr U irc/hybserv/Makefile U irc/hybserv/pkg-descr U math/pari-devel/Makefile U math/pari-devel/distinfo U sysutils/Makefile U sysutils/fusefs-kmod/Makefile U sysutils/fusefs-kmod/distinfo U sysutils/fusefs-kmod/pkg-descr U sysutils/fusefs-kmod/pkg-message U sysutils/fusefs-kmod/pkg-plist U sysutils/fusefs-kmod/files/fuse.sh U sysutils/fusefs-kmod/files/patch-fuse_module_Makefile U sysutils/fusefs-kmod/files/setup.sh U sysutils/fusefs-libs/Makefile U sysutils/fusefs-libs/distinfo U sysutils/fusefs-libs/pkg-descr U sysutils/fusefs-libs/pkg-message U sysutils/fusefs-libs/pkg-plist U sysutils/fusefs-libs/files/patch-Makefile.in U sysutils/fusefs-libs/files/patch-example_fusexmp.c U sysutils/fusefs-libs/files/patch-example_fusexmp_fh.c U sysutils/fusefs-libs/files/patch-include_fuse.h U sysutils/fusefs-libs/files/patch-include_fuse_kernel.h U sysutils/fusefs-libs/files/patch-include_fuse_lowlevel.h U sysutils/fusefs-libs/files/patch-include_linux_compat.h U sysutils/fusefs-libs/files/patch-lib_fuse.c U sysutils/fusefs-libs/files/patch-lib_fuse_lowlevel.c U sysutils/fusefs-libs/files/patch-lib_helper.c U sysutils/fusefs-libs/files/patch-lib_mount.c U sysutils/fusefs-libs/files/patch-util_Makefile.in U sysutils/portupgrade/Makefile U sysutils/portupgrade/files/patch-bin-pkgdb U sysutils/portupgrade/files/patch-etc-pkgtools.conf U www/simplog/Makefile U www/simplog/pkg-descr From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 19 09:18:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9372716A41F for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:18:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-ports@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DAC943D49 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:18:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-ports@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1ESA0s-0002WE-3f for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:13:34 +0200 Received: from menelaos.informatik.rwth-aachen.de ([137.226.194.73]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:13:34 +0200 Received: from vs by menelaos.informatik.rwth-aachen.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:13:34 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org From: Volker Stolz Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:11:45 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <200510190507.j9J57og6080914@builder.freebsd.org> X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: menelaos.informatik.rwth-aachen.de User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news Subject: Re: INDEX build failed for 4.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:18:36 -0000 * Kris Kennaway : > INDEX build failed with errors: > Generating INDEX - please wait.. Done. > make_index: ja-deepforest-1.0a: no entry for /usr/ports/japanese/libimg > make_index: ja-muggy-1.3.1: no entry for /usr/ports/japanese/libimg > make_index: ja-jgv-0.2a: no entry for /usr/ports/japanese/libimg > make_index: ja-seizedesktop-0.1a: no entry for /usr/ports/japanese/libimg > make_index: ja-binder-1.3: no entry for /usr/ports/japanese/libimg Damn, I'm currently picking up the pieces, will be done shortly. Volker -- http://www-i2.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/stolz/ *** PGP *** S/MIME Receive and transmit From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 19 09:22:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DFB016A41F; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:22:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from erwin@mail.droso.net) Received: from mail.droso.net (koala.droso.net [193.88.12.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 156FF43D53; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:22:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from erwin@mail.droso.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.droso.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1FD2298A; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:22:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail.droso.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3CFB722982; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:22:04 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:22:04 +0200 From: Erwin Lansing To: Volker Stolz Message-ID: <20051019092204.GE1217@droso.net> Mail-Followup-To: Volker Stolz , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <200510190507.j9J57og6080914@builder.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KjG/elEj40fDqMBW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/i386 5.4-RELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd 0.1 Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: INDEX build failed for 4.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:22:07 -0000 --KjG/elEj40fDqMBW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 09:11:45AM +0000, Volker Stolz wrote: > * Kris Kennaway : > > INDEX build failed with errors: > > Generating INDEX - please wait.. Done. > > make_index: ja-deepforest-1.0a: no entry for /usr/ports/japanese/libimg > > make_index: ja-muggy-1.3.1: no entry for /usr/ports/japanese/libimg > > make_index: ja-jgv-0.2a: no entry for /usr/ports/japanese/libimg > > make_index: ja-seizedesktop-0.1a: no entry for /usr/ports/japanese/libi= mg > > make_index: ja-binder-1.3: no entry for /usr/ports/japanese/libimg >=20 > Damn, I'm currently picking up the pieces, will be done shortly. >=20 Too late, I'm ready to commit. This port should never have been removed during a slush, but I decided to remove the other ports as well instead of resurrecting ja-libimg. -erwin --=20 Erwin Lansing DISCLAIMER: No electrons were harmed while sending this message. --KjG/elEj40fDqMBW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDVhA8qy9aWxUlaZARArNNAKDz543j9mhwuFpKx8Jq7g7YMA7hmACghHwo hPIgJVXckBcKLh74D+nMzqs= =rBSB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --KjG/elEj40fDqMBW-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 19 10:27:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5F816A41F for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:27:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rmh@aybabtu.com) Received: from khazad.dyndns.org (216.red-62-57-140.user.auna.net [62.57.140.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9B5E43D48 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:27:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rmh@aybabtu.com) Received: from rmh by khazad.dyndns.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1ESBA3-0007Tt-3c for ports@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:27:07 +0200 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:27:06 +0200 From: Robert Millan To: ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051019102706.GA28521@aragorn> References: <20051018140137.GA16159@aragorn> <20051018200544.GA26528@saturn.kn-bremen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051018200544.GA26528@saturn.kn-bremen.de> Sender: Robert Millan Organisation: free as in freedom User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i Cc: Subject: Re: gzip-like CLI wrapper for p7zip X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:27:02 -0000 On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 10:05:44PM +0200, Juergen Lock wrote: > > Well I could add it to the port (see below), but I think the need for > tempfiles is unfortunate because it can cause problems like /tmp > filling up. I'm aware of this. Unfortunately, p7zip doesn't seem to support streaming. Try the following command: $ echo foo | 7z a dummy -si -so > /dev/null (see http://bugs.debian.org/323932 for more details on this) I don't think the changes are trivial. Most likely the algorithm requires random access, and with my very reduced knowledge in compression techniques or p7zip internals, this isn't something I can fix. > Maybe the 7z lib that cloop uses [1] [2] could be used > for a `real' tempfile-less p7zip? > [...] > [1] http://advancemame.sourceforge.net/comp-readme.html It reads: "Recompress ZIP, GZ, PNG and MNG files using the Deflate 7-Zip implementation." I don't think this means it supports 7z format. Most likely it just means it took the deflate algorithm code (for gzip, etc) from the 7-zip program (the Windows version, which is also LGPL). > (I dont know the 7z file format, > maybe a new format has to be created in order to require no seeking, > meaning the extension would have to be changed as well. (like gzip > had to do with the zip format.) so maybe we shouldn't standardize > on a p7zip command just yet...) Sorry, I don't know the 7z format either. However, much like other compression formats, it is versioned: rmh@aragorn:/tmp$ echo foo | p7zip | file - /dev/stdin: 7z archive data, version 0.2 I don't think there's a problem with standarising on a p7zip command. Streaming is IMHO an essential capability in Un*x-style compressors. I think it's better to emulate it poorly via /tmp hacks, than not having it at all. For example, tar expects compressor programs to support streaming, so if we want to patch it to do something like this: $ tar -cIf foo.tar.7z bar we'll need that. (In fact, this is what I had in mind when writing this script). In case p7zip supports streaming properly later on (either by bumping the format version to 0.3 or not), we can get rid of the script, or modify it to something that just provides a gzip-like CLI interface that tar would work with. (please note, in the above example I'm referring to gnu tar. I don't know which tar implementation is used in FreeBSD, but the same would apply, I think) > Index: files/p7zip > @@ -0,0 +1,74 @@ > +#!/bin/sh > +# gzip-like CLI wrapper for p7zip > +set -e Btw, I would verify that the script works on FreeBSD. In particular, I'd check the `mktemp' and `which' commands are present and work the same way. As for shell, it needs bourne. I don't recall using any bashisms but I'm not 1:1 sure. -- Robert Millan From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 19 10:27:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F7A16A41F for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:27:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rmh@aybabtu.com) Received: from khazad.dyndns.org (216.red-62-57-140.user.auna.net [62.57.140.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3831443D45 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:27:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rmh@aybabtu.com) Received: from rmh by khazad.dyndns.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1ESBAn-0007U0-NG for ports@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:27:53 +0200 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:27:53 +0200 From: Robert Millan To: ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051019102753.GB28521@aragorn> References: <20051018140137.GA16159@aragorn> <20051018200544.GA26528@saturn.kn-bremen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051018200544.GA26528@saturn.kn-bremen.de> Sender: Robert Millan Organisation: free as in freedom User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i Cc: Subject: Re: gzip-like CLI wrapper for p7zip X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:27:47 -0000 Btw, I forgot to say that you please keep me on CC, I'm not subscribed. -- Robert Millan From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 14:48:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF4916A420; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:48:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com (lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com [68.99.120.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C048B43D45; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:48:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dns1 ([64.58.171.82]) by lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051018144822.QLMI17511.lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com@dns1>; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:48:22 -0400 From: Vizion To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 07:43:13 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <1B8112AF-8C0E-4BA0-8D1C-DA6AD529F327@softweyr.com> <20051017141125.GA25725@arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr> In-Reply-To: <20051017141125.GA25725@arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510180743.21623.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:34:20 +0000 Cc: Wes Peters , wes@freebsd.org, freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org, mitsuru@riken.jp, tux@pinguru.net, Norikatsu Shigemura , rtdean@cytherianage.net, sugimura@jp.FreeBSD.ORG, Mark Linimon , Herve Quiroz , Achilleus Mantzios , Panagiotis Astithas , freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:48:16 -0000 On Monday 17 October 2005 07:11, the author Herve Quiroz contributed to the dialogue on- Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports: >Hi Achilleus, > >On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 04:09:37PM +0300, Achilleus Mantzios wrote: >> Perhaps i missed something, >> but why all that bother with eclipse, when (at least) all the >> java add-ons for it are easily managed by the tool itself? >> >> For possible JNI eclipse plugins (if any) a port definately >> makes sense but for the majority (java) i think the community >> over engineers the case instead of working on more vital issues >> of the operation system. > >You are right this is becoming a huge issue while it should probably >not. > >The main concern, IMHO, is that the 'java' category could disapear as a >main category (a non-virtual category) some day. There are indeed >several people (including me) who believe that it was a mistake in the >first place and I am starting to think that me should effectively get >rid of it before more and more ports are added into it. Take as an >example the recent add of the java/eclipse-webtools port. We decided >some time ago to avoid adding new ports in the 'java' physicial category >when they are not *stricly* Java support-related (that is, JDK, Sun >official libraries and APIs, and such tools). OTOH I can understand why >Norikatsu just did commit the port in 'java' because all other Eclipse >ports were already there. I believe that moving the ports that do not >rely to core Java support from the 'java' main category would allow >commiters to avoid such practices. That's why I agree with this whole >"eclipse repocopy" concern. > >Now, I am probably not well aware of the actual use of each Eclipse >package to be be the right person to decide whether we should have them >all in the same main category or scattered all over the ports tree. But >if I am to give my two cents on the topic, I believe that if we want to >get rid of the "Java exception" (the only language with its own >non-virtual category, no specific PKGNAMEPREFIX while perl, python and >other have one...) we should not produce another exception, namely the >"Eclipse exception". Hence I think we should do just the same as for the >many other "applications with many modules" that exists in the tree >(Emacs is IMHO a good example) and thus I think scattering them is a >fine approach. There is a very practical reason for not scattering. The '"lets not make an exception" argument misses the point. Can not the practical needs of users rather than precedent be our guide here? Eclipse and other emerging framework centric computing environments are essentially different from traditional application centric computing. If we try and shoehorn franework centric ports into a ports system which is designed for application centric computing we are not giving equal weight to disparate needs. Framework centric environments are different and need different treatment. > >To sum up, scatter them or put them in one single place, but please move >them from the 'java' category once the ports tree slush is over. I agree eclipse does not belong in the java category - it, and any other subsantial framework centric port needs its own category. >That >will be 24 ports less to move when we decide to get rid of the >non-virtual 'java' category and moreover this will allow new Eclipse >ports to comply with the defined conventions for Java ports. > >Herve >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- 40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Taurus. Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing bound for Europe via Panama Canal after completing engineroom refit. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 19 13:04:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6846516A41F for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:04:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mi+kde@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from blue.virtual-estates.net (aldan.algebra.com [216.254.65.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB65343D45 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:04:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mi+kde@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from blue.virtual-estates.net (blue [127.0.0.1]) by blue.virtual-estates.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9JD4G11067325 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:04:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+kde@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by blue.virtual-estates.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j9JD4FuX067324; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:04:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+kde@aldan.algebra.com) X-Authentication-Warning: blue.virtual-estates.net: mi set sender to mi+kde@aldan.algebra.com using -f From: Mikhail Teterin To: Udo Mueller Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:04:15 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 X-Face: %UW#n0|w>ydeGt/b@1-.UFP=K^~-:0f#O:D7whJ5G_<5143Bb3kOIs9XpX+"V+~$adGP:J|SLieM31VIhqXeLBli" Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Port: graphics/djvulibre X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:04:19 -0000 Hi, Udo, thanks for the bug-report. I just added two patches to the port. Can you, please, let me know, if that fixed things for you? Thanks, -mi From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 19 13:17:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE8CE16A41F for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:17:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@builder.freebsd.org) Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.freebsd.org [216.136.204.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DEE043D45 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:17:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@builder.freebsd.org) Received: from builder.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by builder.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9JDHH8h030859 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:17:17 GMT (envelope-from kris@builder.freebsd.org) Received: (from kris@localhost) by builder.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9JDHHT3030857 for ports@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:17:17 GMT (envelope-from kris) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:17:17 GMT From: Kris Kennaway Message-Id: <200510191317.j9JDHHT3030857@builder.freebsd.org> To: ports@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: INDEX now builds successfully on 4.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:17:18 -0000 From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 19 15:34:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39B4516A41F for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 15:34:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from h=ports=freebsd.org=ffzhnauq@erathia.be) Received: from mail.llorien.org (mail.llorien.org [212.88.225.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33FA443D58 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 15:34:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from h=ports=freebsd.org=ffzhnauq@erathia.be) Received: from d51a5782f.access.telenet.be [81.165.120.47] by mail.llorien.org with esmtpsa (SSL 3.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_MD5:16) id=1ESFxp-0004Ms-23; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:34:49 +0200 From: h To: trevor@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:36:40 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510191736.41237.h@erathia.be> X-Authenticated-Sender: h X-AntiAbuse: If this mail is spam, please forward it as attachment to abuse@llorien.org X-Virus-State: clean Cc: Subject: acroread7 install bug report X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 15:34:54 -0000 # cd /usr/ports/print/acroread7/ # make install clean ===> Extracting for acroread7-7.0.1 => Checksum OK for acroread/AdobeReader_enu-7.0.1-1.i386.rpm. ===> Patching for acroread7-7.0.1 ===> acroread7-7.0.1 depends on executable: rpm - found ===> Configuring for acroread7-7.0.1 ===> Building for acroread7-7.0.1 ... ===> Generating temporary packing list 0 blocks install: /usr/local/bin/acroread7: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 Stop in /usr/ports/print/acroread7. :/ From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 19 18:18:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B0B16A41F for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 18:18:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu (math.missouri.edu [128.206.49.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CBDA43D62 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 18:18:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from [128.206.49.166] (cauchy.math.missouri.edu [128.206.49.166]) by math.missouri.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9JII8Ls010536 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:18:08 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Message-ID: <43568DE0.70206@math.missouri.edu> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:18:08 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith Organization: University of Missouri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050925 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ports@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-100.0 required=4.0 tests=USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on math.missouri.edu X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.71, clamav-milter version 0.71 X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: acroread7 problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 18:18:10 -0000 If I try to print a document from acroread7, it complains /usr/bin/lp not found. When I do a browse, it seems like a lot of directories (e.g. /usr/home, /usr/local) are not seen by this program. Does anyone have any ideas? -- Stephen Montgomery-Smith stephen@math.missouri.edu http://www.math.missouri.edu/~stephen From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 19 20:22:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17C4716A41F for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 20:22:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsam@ns.kfs.ru) Received: from ns.kfs.ru (kfs.kfs.ru [62.183.117.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C7C43D68 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 20:22:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsam@ns.kfs.ru) Received: from bsam by ns.kfs.ru with local (Exim 4.52 (FreeBSD)) id 1ESKSF-000176-Vu; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 00:22:31 +0400 To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith References: <43568DE0.70206@math.missouri.edu> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 00:22:31 +0400 In-Reply-To: <43568DE0.70206@math.missouri.edu> (Stephen Montgomery-Smith's message of "Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:18:08 -0500") Message-ID: <54330856@serv3.int.kfs.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: "Boris B. Samorodov" Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: acroread7 problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 20:22:35 -0000 On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:18:08 -0500 Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > If I try to print a document from acroread7, it complains > /usr/bin/lp > not found. Shouldn't it be /usr/bin/lpr? WBR -- bsam From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 19 20:30:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D023516A41F for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 20:30:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from itetcu@people.tecnik93.com) Received: from relay.rdsnet.ro (gimli.rdsnet.ro [193.231.236.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A864043D62 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 20:30:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from itetcu@people.tecnik93.com) Received: (qmail 10863 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2005 20:30:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.rdsnet.ro) (62.231.74.130) by smtp1-133.rdsnet.ro with SMTP; 19 Oct 2005 20:30:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 29256 invoked by uid 89); 19 Oct 2005 20:30:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO it.buh.tecnik93.com) (81.196.204.98) by 0 with SMTP; 19 Oct 2005 20:30:20 -0000 Received: from it.buh.tecnik93.com (localhost.buh.tecnik93.com [127.0.0.1]) by it.buh.tecnik93.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 452D5115F7 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:30:16 +0300 (EEST) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:30:15 +0300 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu Message-ID: <20051019233015.3de4a212@it.buh.tecnik93.com> In-Reply-To: <20051019193949.GB27229@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20051019175832.GL93128@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051019211509.1ea7d219@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20051019184035.GA10401@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051019222617.1684bc7d@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20051019193949.GB27229@xor.obsecurity.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.12 (GTK+ 2.6.8; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: package-depend oddity (was: Re: [ports-i386@pointyhat.freebsd.org: dspampd-2.00.r2 failed on i386 5] ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 20:30:25 -0000 [ moved on ports@ as I don't want to bother only Kris :) ] The story: On pointyhat mail/dspampd suddenly fails to package because it wants to depend on both clamav and clamav-devel. I believe 20050207: Honour OPTIONS if PACKAGE_BUILDING or BATCH are defined. to be responsible (I was doing kinda the same thing in the Makefile). I have a patch that should/will (as everything it's the same for me - package is OK, package-depends-list is not) fix the problem, but, strangely on my 6 and 5.4 machines I don't see any error (but the port depends on both clamavs): root(itetcu)@it/PU >-SSH-> /usr/ports/mail/dspampd [22:23:00] 0 # make package -DPACKAGE_BUILDING ===> Installing for dspampd-2.00.r2 ===> dspampd-2.00.r2 depends on executable: dspamc - found ===> dspampd-2.00.r2 depends on file: /usr/local/etc/clamd.conf - found ===> dspampd-2.00.r2 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.7 - found ===> Generating temporary packing list ===> Checking if mail/dspampd already installed /bin/mkdir -p /var/spool/dspampd-archive ------------------------------------------------------ Copy /usr/local/etc/dspampd.conf.sample to /usr/local/etc/dspampd.conf and edit it to your needs. Add dspampd_enable=YES in /etc/rc.conf to start dspampd on boot ------------------------------------------------------- ===> Registering installation for dspampd-2.00.r2 ===> Building package for dspampd-2.00.r2 Creating package /usr/ports/packages/All/dspampd-2.00.r2.tbz Registering depends: dspam-devel-3.6.0 clamav-0.87_2 clamav-devel-20051003 arc-5.21n postgresql-client-7.4.9 lha-1.14i_6 libgmp-4.1.4_1 gettext-0.14.5 mysql-client-4.1.14 openldap-client-2.2.29 perl-5.8.7 sqlite-3.2.7 libiconv-1.9.2_1 pkgconfig-0.17.2 unarj-2.65_1 unrar-3.54,3 unzip-5.52_2 zoo-2.10.1. Creating bzip'd tar ball in '/usr/ports/packages/All/dspampd-2.00.r2.tbz' root(itetcu)@it/PU >-SSH-> /usr/ports/mail/dspampd [22:23:28] 0 # make showconfig ===> No configuration options are set for this port Use 'make config' to set default values And here thay appear both: root(itetcu)@it/PU >-SSH-> /usr/ports/mail/dspampd [23:00:49] 0 # make package-depends-list -DPACKAGE_BUILDING dspam-devel-3.6.0 /usr/ports/mail/dspam-devel mail/dspam-devel sqlite-3.2.7 /usr/ports/databases/sqlite3 databases/sqlite3 pkgconfig-0.17.2 /usr/ports/devel/pkgconfig devel/pkgconfig openldap-client-2.2.29 /usr/ports/net/openldap22-client net/openldap22-client mysql-client-4.1.14 /usr/ports/databases/mysql41-client databases/mysql41-client postgresql-client-7.4.9 /usr/ports/databases/postgresql74-client databases/postgresql74-client gettext-0.14.5 /usr/ports/devel/gettext devel/gettext libiconv-1.9.2_1 /usr/ports/converters/libiconv converters/libiconv clamav-0.87_2 /usr/ports/security/clamav security/clamav libgmp-4.1.4_1 /usr/ports/math/libgmp4 math/libgmp4 lha-1.14i_6 /usr/ports/archivers/lha archivers/lha unarj-2.65_1 /usr/ports/archivers/unarj archivers/unarj zoo-2.10.1 /usr/ports/archivers/zoo archivers/zoo arc-5.21n /usr/ports/archivers/arc archivers/arc unzip-5.52_2 /usr/ports/archivers/unzip archivers/unzip unrar-3.54,3 /usr/ports/archivers/unrar archivers/unrar clamav-devel-20051003 /usr/ports/security/clamav-devel security/clamav-devel perl-5.8.7 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8 lang/perl5.8 On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 15:39:49 -0400 Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 10:26:17PM +0300, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:40:35 -0400 > > Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 09:15:09PM +0300, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: [ ... ] > > > > Did anything change on the server ? I haven't touch this port > > > > for a year or so. > > > > > > No, probably a dependency. > > > > Then it didn't build the port in a long time ? I believe > > 20050207: Honour OPTIONS if PACKAGE_BUILDING or BATCH are defined. > > was the culprit (I was doing kinda the same thing in the Makefile). > > Maybe (if something it depends on was broken). Alternatively, a > dependency must have changed the version of clamav it depends on, > which caused your port to suddenly depend on both (an impossibility). Now, I don't see any other package that depends on clamav* Could someone explain to me what's happening here ? Why does it fail on pontyhat, but not an any other machine ? I've tested on a 6 and a 5.4 cvsup'ed a few minutes ago and a 5.4 cvsup'ed a few months ago. Why does it depend on both clamavs ? -- IOnut Unregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" "Intellectual Property" is nowhere near as valuable as "Intellect" From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 19 21:04:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3299916A41F for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:04:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEDC843D76 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:04:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E0B1A3C31; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:04:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 01E5D51226; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:04:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:04:41 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Ion-Mihai Tetcu Message-ID: <20051019210440.GA44472@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20051019175832.GL93128@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051019211509.1ea7d219@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20051019184035.GA10401@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051019222617.1684bc7d@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20051019193949.GB27229@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051019233015.3de4a212@it.buh.tecnik93.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5mCyUwZo2JvN/JJP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051019233015.3de4a212@it.buh.tecnik93.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: package-depend oddity (was: Re: [ports-i386@pointyhat.freebsd.org: dspampd-2.00.r2 failed on i386 5] ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:04:51 -0000 --5mCyUwZo2JvN/JJP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 11:30:15PM +0300, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: >=20 > [ moved on ports@ as I don't want to bother only Kris :) ] >=20 > The story: >=20 > On pointyhat mail/dspampd suddenly fails to package because it wants to > depend on both clamav and clamav-devel. >=20 > I believe=20 > 20050207: Honour OPTIONS if PACKAGE_BUILDING or BATCH are defined. > to be responsible (I was doing kinda the same thing in the Makefile). >=20 > I have a patch that should/will (as everything it's the same for me - > package is OK, package-depends-list is not) fix the problem, but, > strangely on my 6 and 5.4 machines I don't see any error (but the port > depends on both clamavs): Because clamav-devel and clamav install the same files, so whichever one installs first will satisfy the Makefile dependency check for both. i.e. you can't be sure which one is actually installed. This is flagged as an error on PH because it installs dependencies by pkg_add, which has conflict-checking and won't spam clamav with clamav-devel (or vice-versa). > > Maybe (if something it depends on was broken). Alternatively, a > > dependency must have changed the version of clamav it depends on, > > which caused your port to suddenly depend on both (an impossibility). >=20 > Now, I don't see any other package that depends on clamav* > Could someone explain to me what's happening here ? Why does it fail on > pontyhat, but not an any other machine ? I've tested on a 6 and a 5.4 > cvsup'ed a few minutes ago and a 5.4 cvsup'ed a few months ago. Why > does it depend on both clamavs ?=20 =46rom some dependency..you'd have to trace through to see which one. Kris --5mCyUwZo2JvN/JJP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDVrToWry0BWjoQKURAk66AKC1O3W5boUS+Wh50iY78PzVcninAACgrmcJ Y9y+kSXUV+ilsEJakSzmm0A= =ukcS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5mCyUwZo2JvN/JJP-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 19 21:17:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E66E16A41F for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:17:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3CEB43D6B for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:17:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 9F9433031; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 16:17:33 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 16:17:33 -0500 To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20051019211733.GA26059@soaustin.net> References: <20051019175832.GL93128@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051019211509.1ea7d219@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20051019184035.GA10401@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051019222617.1684bc7d@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20051019193949.GB27229@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051019233015.3de4a212@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20051019210440.GA44472@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051019210440.GA44472@xor.obsecurity.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Cc: Ion-Mihai Tetcu , ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: package-depend oddity (was: Re: [ports-i386@pointyhat.freebsd.org: dspampd-2.00.r2 failed on i386 5] ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:17:35 -0000 On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 05:04:41PM -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > Why does it depend on both clamavs ? > > From some dependency..you'd have to trace through to see which one. Hmm ... the interactive page below isn't showing it: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portdependencytree.py?category=mail&portname=dspampd mcl From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 19 21:26:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FEDC16A41F for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:26:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D77843D5A for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:26:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C6BE1A3C2A; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:26:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 46E6C51226; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:26:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:26:42 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Mark Linimon Message-ID: <20051019212642.GA60421@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20051019175832.GL93128@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051019211509.1ea7d219@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20051019184035.GA10401@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051019222617.1684bc7d@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20051019193949.GB27229@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051019233015.3de4a212@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20051019210440.GA44472@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051019211733.GA26059@soaustin.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051019211733.GA26059@soaustin.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: Ion-Mihai Tetcu , ports@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: package-depend oddity (was: Re: [ports-i386@pointyhat.freebsd.org: dspampd-2.00.r2 failed on i386 5] ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:26:44 -0000 --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 04:17:33PM -0500, Mark Linimon wrote: > On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 05:04:41PM -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > Why does it depend on both clamavs ?=20 > >=20 > > From some dependency..you'd have to trace through to see which one. >=20 > Hmm ... the interactive page below isn't showing it: >=20 > http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portdependencytree.py?category=3Dmail&portnam= e=3Ddspampd Looks like clamav came in with the recent commit to dspam-devel 2 days ago (also by the same maintainer ;-). Kris --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDVroSWry0BWjoQKURAiQNAKDxlcBvaxqaiow/XZmZibuK+MSTfgCgtYfz 2J4+sthOyrzmOotUki6a+nI= =stD/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 19 21:28:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C56B516A41F for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:28:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from itetcu@people.tecnik93.com) Received: from relay.rdsnet.ro (gimli.rdsnet.ro [193.231.236.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7794943D5A for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:28:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from itetcu@people.tecnik93.com) Received: (qmail 21180 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2005 21:28:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.rdsnet.ro) (62.231.74.130) by smtp1-133.rdsnet.ro with SMTP; 19 Oct 2005 21:28:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 1674 invoked by uid 89); 19 Oct 2005 21:28:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO it.buh.tecnik93.com) (81.196.204.98) by 0 with SMTP; 19 Oct 2005 21:28:34 -0000 Received: from it.buh.tecnik93.com (localhost.buh.tecnik93.com [127.0.0.1]) by it.buh.tecnik93.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB76115F7; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 00:28:31 +0300 (EEST) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 00:28:30 +0300 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20051020002830.3424d1f3@it.buh.tecnik93.com> In-Reply-To: <20051019210440.GA44472@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20051019175832.GL93128@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051019211509.1ea7d219@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20051019184035.GA10401@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051019222617.1684bc7d@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20051019193949.GB27229@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051019233015.3de4a212@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20051019210440.GA44472@xor.obsecurity.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.12 (GTK+ 2.6.8; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: package-depend oddity (was: Re: [ports-i386@pointyhat.freebsd.org: dspampd-2.00.r2 failed on i386 5] ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:28:38 -0000 On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:04:41 -0400 Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 11:30:15PM +0300, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: > > > > [ moved on ports@ as I don't want to bother only Kris :) ] > > > > The story: > > > > On pointyhat mail/dspampd suddenly fails to package because it > > wants to depend on both clamav and clamav-devel. > > > > I believe > > 20050207: Honour OPTIONS if PACKAGE_BUILDING or BATCH are defined. > > to be responsible (I was doing kinda the same thing in the > > Makefile). > > > > I have a patch that should/will (as everything it's the same for me > > - package is OK, package-depends-list is not) fix the problem, but, > > strangely on my 6 and 5.4 machines I don't see any error (but the > > port depends on both clamavs): > > Because clamav-devel and clamav install the same files, so whichever > one installs first will satisfy the Makefile dependency check for > both. i.e. you can't be sure which one is actually installed. > > This is flagged as an error on PH because it installs dependencies by > pkg_add, which has conflict-checking and won't spam clamav with > clamav-devel (or vice-versa). > > > > Maybe (if something it depends on was broken). Alternatively, a > > > dependency must have changed the version of clamav it depends on, > > > which caused your port to suddenly depend on both (an > > > impossibility). > > > > Now, I don't see any other package that depends on clamav* > > Could someone explain to me what's happening here ? Why does it > > fail on pontyhat, but not an any other machine ? I've tested on a 6 > > and a 5.4 cvsup'ed a few minutes ago and a 5.4 cvsup'ed a few > > months ago. Why does it depend on both clamavs ? > > From some dependency..you'd have to trace through to see which one. In this case I see no way to prevent the error. The patch I have, while would bring the port to contemporary style (more or less) won't fix this (it doesn't change anything, mic alternative to "Honour OPTIONS if PACKAGE_BUILDING..." is just completely redundant now). I got to catch some sleep now, I'll look again tomorrow, maybe I'll see something. -- IOnut Unregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" "Intellectual Property" is nowhere near as valuable as "Intellect" From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 19 21:33:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6148716A41F for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:33:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from itetcu@people.tecnik93.com) Received: from relay.rdsnet.ro (gimli.rdsnet.ro [193.231.236.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5125643D68 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:33:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from itetcu@people.tecnik93.com) Received: (qmail 22139 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2005 21:33:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.rdsnet.ro) (62.231.74.130) by smtp1-133.rdsnet.ro with SMTP; 19 Oct 2005 21:33:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 2171 invoked by uid 89); 19 Oct 2005 21:33:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO it.buh.tecnik93.com) (81.196.204.98) by 0 with SMTP; 19 Oct 2005 21:33:23 -0000 Received: from it.buh.tecnik93.com (localhost.buh.tecnik93.com [127.0.0.1]) by it.buh.tecnik93.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D332115F7; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 00:33:23 +0300 (EEST) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 00:33:23 +0300 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20051020003323.26389393@it.buh.tecnik93.com> In-Reply-To: <20051019212642.GA60421@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20051019175832.GL93128@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051019211509.1ea7d219@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20051019184035.GA10401@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051019222617.1684bc7d@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20051019193949.GB27229@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051019233015.3de4a212@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20051019210440.GA44472@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051019211733.GA26059@soaustin.net> <20051019212642.GA60421@xor.obsecurity.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.12 (GTK+ 2.6.8; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@freebsd.org, Mark Linimon , Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: package-depend oddity (was: Re: [ports-i386@pointyhat.freebsd.org: dspampd-2.00.r2 failed on i386 5] ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:33:27 -0000 On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:26:42 -0400 Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 04:17:33PM -0500, Mark Linimon wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 05:04:41PM -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > > Why does it depend on both clamavs ? > > > > > > From some dependency..you'd have to trace through to see which > > > one. > > > > Hmm ... the interactive page below isn't showing it: > > > > http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portdependencytree.py?category=mail&portname=dspampd > > Looks like clamav came in with the recent commit to dspam-devel 2 days > ago (also by the same maintainer ;-). OK, I see it now. So ... I should depend on clam instead of clamav-devel in dspampd to match the defaults from dspam-devel (which will be dspam in a few days) - OPTIONS+= CLAMAV "Use clamav as antivir module" off - OPTIONS+= CLAMAV_DEVEL "Use clamav as antivir module" on + OPTIONS+= CLAMAV "Use clamav as antivir module" on + OPTIONS+= CLAMAV_DEVEL "Use clamav as antivir module" off -- IOnut Unregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" "Intellectual Property" is nowhere near as valuable as "Intellect" From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 19 21:35:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E97916A41F for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:35:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA1B943D7B for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:35:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A614C1A3C26; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:35:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8954B51226; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:35:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:35:22 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Ion-Mihai Tetcu Message-ID: <20051019213522.GA60635@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20051019175832.GL93128@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051019211509.1ea7d219@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20051019184035.GA10401@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051019222617.1684bc7d@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20051019193949.GB27229@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051019233015.3de4a212@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20051019210440.GA44472@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051019211733.GA26059@soaustin.net> <20051019212642.GA60421@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051020003323.26389393@it.buh.tecnik93.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051020003323.26389393@it.buh.tecnik93.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: ports@freebsd.org, Mark Linimon , Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: package-depend oddity (was: Re: [ports-i386@pointyhat.freebsd.org: dspampd-2.00.r2 failed on i386 5] ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:35:24 -0000 --/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 12:33:23AM +0300, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: > On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:26:42 -0400 > Kris Kennaway wrote: >=20 > > On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 04:17:33PM -0500, Mark Linimon wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 05:04:41PM -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > > > Why does it depend on both clamavs ?=20 > > > >=20 > > > > From some dependency..you'd have to trace through to see which > > > > one. > > >=20 > > > Hmm ... the interactive page below isn't showing it: > > >=20 > > > http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portdependencytree.py?category=3Dmail&por= tname=3Ddspampd > >=20 > > Looks like clamav came in with the recent commit to dspam-devel 2 days > > ago (also by the same maintainer ;-). >=20 >=20 > OK, I see it now. So ... I should depend on clam instead of > clamav-devel in dspampd to match the defaults from dspam-devel (which > will be dspam in a few days) >=20 >=20 > - OPTIONS+=3D CLAMAV "Use clamav as antivir module" off > - OPTIONS+=3D CLAMAV_DEVEL "Use clamav as antivir module" on > + OPTIONS+=3D CLAMAV "Use clamav as antivir module" on > + OPTIONS+=3D CLAMAV_DEVEL "Use clamav as antivir module" off That would do it. Kris --/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDVrwaWry0BWjoQKURAjgGAKC+igKIzCKMii1KXEwHYRWzEDmv4QCgpKDM VMHbByoMixLgyNt/7J7JNyo= =/Fuz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 19 21:40:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFED216A41F for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:40:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neuhauser@sigpipe.cz) Received: from isis.sigpipe.cz (fw.sigpipe.cz [62.245.70.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10CA43D64 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:40:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neuhauser@sigpipe.cz) Received: by isis.sigpipe.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CAD9E1F87BFD; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:40:18 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:40:18 +0200 From: Roman Neuhauser To: Mark Linimon Message-ID: <20051019214018.GA5180@isis.sigpipe.cz> Mail-Followup-To: Mark Linimon , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <1B8112AF-8C0E-4BA0-8D1C-DA6AD529F327@softweyr.com> <20051017153024.GA23494@arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr> <20051017212748.GD71766@isis.sigpipe.cz> <790a9fff0510171505i4010cc05yc30f67d459d1a0e4@mail.gmail.com> <20051018010446.GH71766@isis.sigpipe.cz> <20051018011616.GA57969@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051018153752.GB11790@soaustin.net> <20051018160725.GB87664@isis.sigpipe.cz> <20051018162907.GB14192@soaustin.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051018162907.GB14192@soaustin.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:40:21 -0000 # linimon@lonesome.com / 2005-10-18 11:29:07 -0500: > On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 06:07:25PM +0200, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > > > That highlights my point that IMHO we need two different functionalities: > > > 'search' and 'browse'. 'make search' is barely adequate for searching. > > > > What are you missing from make search? I'll try and add it if it's > > within reasonable bounds of complexity. > > e.g. searching when you don't know the exact spelling of the name. Would optional use of double metaphone or another algorithm help? Also, another variable, e. g. KEYWORDS, could be used. > > > We have nothing at all for browsing (unless you count reading an entire > > > list of ports in hierarchy as 'browsing', which even an old command-line > > > kind of guy like me thinks is crude). > > > > Can you define 'browsing'? > > "show me the ports that have something to do with the Internet"; What are you missing from make search cat=net ? (I'm not suggesting you don't have valid complaints, I'd like to learn about them.) > "show me a list of plugins that work with Apache2". Create a virtual category, apache_mod, and then: make search cat=apache_mod Go a step further, use materialized virtual categories, and do ls apache_mod If you think this wouldn't fly, I'd also like to hear the reasoning. > > How will the Wes' colleagues find it? You need to be able to find > > a port to install it. If a port is required to make sense of the > > structure, we need a bootstrap mechanism, like something in the > > base. Like, ls. > > Don't be silly. I don't think I am. I'm pointing out a chicken-and-egg condition present in your proposal. > Neither portupgrade nor cvsup are in base. People pkg_install them > and then they're good to go. Neither tries to facilitate the browsing or searching of the collection, and I consider their being part of the problem they try to solve their weakest spot. > ls is _not_, by any stretch of the imagination, an adequate tool > unless you already have a pretty good idea of what it is you're > looking for. Same applies to Google, or basically any search interface, or, closer to the topic, to FreshPorts, which I used about thrice in my life, BTW. make search is not The Final Solution, of course, but it can be made better. Feel free to mail me any suggestions you have. > I really do not believe that anything with a UI belongs in base, and > I believe that 'search' and 'browse', to be useful to the largest number > of people, need to be UI-based; whether that's as applications, or from > web pages, or more likely, both. Note: The shell is also a User Interface, but I understand you mean a Graphical User Interface, or more precisely (because libdialog(3) is a GUI toolkit), GTK, QT, and the likes. I agree with what you say. I've learned over the last 15 years that the most comfortable UI for the majority of people is a single OK button in the middle of the screen. I'm fine with that unless someone tries to shove it down *my* throat. In compliance with your assessment that FreeBSD is put together by different people scratching their different needs, I'm doing myself a favor by contributing the tools that I want to see in the operating system. (I'm probably one of three people who use [the extended capabilities of] make search, which IMO proves both your and mine points.) Unless, or until, someone tries to discourage improvements to the interface they dislike, everybody can be happy. > > I would certainly prefer if we considered the fs structure to be the > > primary interface (and treated it accordingly). I'm weird, I know. > > It's always going to be the 'primary' interface but if we don't build > tools on top of it, it's simply going to limit the ports tree's usefulness > to people who aren't as hardcore as you or I are. That's in agreement with what the angry guy pushes: don't let the rules of yesterday limit the ways you use it today. I don't mind you spending time writing a web interface (which I won't use), please don't mind me extending the ways make or ls can be used. > But, I mean, honestly, I think I can state without much fear of > contradiction that I have as good a working knowledge of what's in the > ports tree as anyone. Even so, the other day I went looking to see if > there was any port specifically geared to synchronizing file systems on > two peer machines (rather than, e.g., geared to just backing up a file > system). It was really painful to do that, and it shouldn't have been. > None of the existing tools are even vaguely adequate for that. The last two paragraphs seem to back the need to extend the basic concepts. If we stop thinking in terms of "real" vs "virtual" categories, and represent membership in multiple categories in terms of symlinks, we can greatly improve the usability by merely doubling the number of categories. If we can have cnt path 11 /usr/ports/hebrew 13 /usr/ports/accessibility 13 /usr/ports/arabic 13 /usr/ports/ukrainian 14 /usr/ports/hungarian 16 /usr/ports/portuguese 19 /usr/ports/mbone 19 /usr/ports/x11-servers 21 /usr/ports/polish 21 /usr/ports/vietnamese 25 /usr/ports/french then there's surely room for 24 /usr/ports/eclipse And, 1620 /usr/ports/devel could use a close look at. -- How many Vietnam vets does it take to screw in a light bulb? You don't know, man. You don't KNOW. Cause you weren't THERE. http://bash.org/?255991 From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 19 21:41:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A2016A421 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:41:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from itetcu@people.tecnik93.com) Received: from relay.rdsnet.ro (gimli.rdsnet.ro [193.231.236.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A718943D66 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:41:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from itetcu@people.tecnik93.com) Received: (qmail 23175 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2005 21:41:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.rdsnet.ro) (62.231.74.130) by smtp1-133.rdsnet.ro with SMTP; 19 Oct 2005 21:41:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 2868 invoked by uid 89); 19 Oct 2005 21:41:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO it.buh.tecnik93.com) (81.196.204.98) by 0 with SMTP; 19 Oct 2005 21:41:48 -0000 Received: from it.buh.tecnik93.com (localhost.buh.tecnik93.com [127.0.0.1]) by it.buh.tecnik93.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD61115F7; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 00:41:48 +0300 (EEST) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 00:41:48 +0300 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20051020004148.5e9b4605@it.buh.tecnik93.com> In-Reply-To: <20051019213522.GA60635@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20051019175832.GL93128@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051019211509.1ea7d219@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20051019184035.GA10401@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051019222617.1684bc7d@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20051019193949.GB27229@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051019233015.3de4a212@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20051019210440.GA44472@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051019211733.GA26059@soaustin.net> <20051019212642.GA60421@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051020003323.26389393@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20051019213522.GA60635@xor.obsecurity.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.12 (GTK+ 2.6.8; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@freebsd.org, Mark Linimon , Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: package-depend oddity (was: Re: [ports-i386@pointyhat.freebsd.org: dspampd-2.00.r2 failed on i386 5] ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:41:53 -0000 On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:35:22 -0400 Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 12:33:23AM +0300, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:26:42 -0400 > > Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 04:17:33PM -0500, Mark Linimon wrote: > > > > On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 05:04:41PM -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > > > > Why does it depend on both clamavs ? > > > > > > > > > > From some dependency..you'd have to trace through to see which > > > > > one. > > > > > > > > Hmm ... the interactive page below isn't showing it: > > > > > > > > http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portdependencytree.py?category=mail&portname=dspampd > > > > > > Looks like clamav came in with the recent commit to dspam-devel 2 > > > days ago (also by the same maintainer ;-). > > > > > > OK, I see it now. So ... I should depend on clam instead of > > clamav-devel in dspampd to match the defaults from dspam-devel > > (which will be dspam in a few days) > > > > > > - OPTIONS+= CLAMAV "Use clamav as antivir module" off > > - OPTIONS+= CLAMAV_DEVEL "Use clamav as antivir module" on > > + OPTIONS+= CLAMAV "Use clamav as antivir module" on > > + OPTIONS+= CLAMAV_DEVEL "Use clamav as antivir module" off > > That would do it. And as you say, I maintain both ports :) And I was really happy with this time speed of dspam :( http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=87691 -- IOnut Unregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" "Intellectual Property" is nowhere near as valuable as "Intellect" From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 19 22:11:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDAD516A41F for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:11:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92.asp.att.net [204.127.203.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71CE143D70 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:11:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from [10.0.0.4] (12-216-248-146.client.mchsi.com[12.216.248.146]) by sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92) with ESMTP id <20051019221123m9200nn42ce>; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:11:24 +0000 Message-ID: <4356C48B.6040600@math.missouri.edu> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:11:23 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050925 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Boris Samorodov References: <43568DE0.70206@math.missouri.edu> <54330856@serv3.int.kfs.ru> In-Reply-To: <54330856@serv3.int.kfs.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: acroread7 problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:11:25 -0000 Boris Samorodov wrote: > On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:18:08 -0500 Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > > >>If I try to print a document from acroread7, it complains >>/usr/bin/lp >>not found. > > > Shouldn't it be /usr/bin/lpr? That doesn't work either. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 19 22:51:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C352616A44F for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:51:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: from gwyn.kn-bremen.de (gwyn.kn-bremen.de [212.63.36.242]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 635DC43DB2 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:51:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: from gwyn.kn-bremen.de (gwyn [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.kn-bremen.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id j9JMoSKF014632; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 00:50:28 +0200 Received: from saturn.kn-bremen.de (uucp@localhost) by gwyn.kn-bremen.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with UUCP id j9JMoSfT014630; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 00:50:28 +0200 Received: from saturn.kn-bremen.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9JMkVYx013330; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 00:46:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: (from nox@localhost) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j9JMkUIj013329; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 00:46:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nox) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 00:46:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Juergen Lock Message-Id: <200510192246.j9JMkUIj013329@saturn.kn-bremen.de> To: rmh@aybabtu.com X-Newsgroups: local.list.freebsd.ports In-Reply-To: <20051019102706.GA28521@aragorn> References: <20051018140137.GA16159@aragorn> <20051018200544.GA26528@saturn.kn-bremen.de> Organization: home Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gzip-like CLI wrapper for p7zip X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:51:37 -0000 In article <20051019102706.GA28521@aragorn> you write: >On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 10:05:44PM +0200, Juergen Lock wrote: >> >> Well I could add it to the port (see below), but I think the need for >> tempfiles is unfortunate because it can cause problems like /tmp >> filling up. > >I'm aware of this. Unfortunately, p7zip doesn't seem to support streaming. >Try the following command: > > $ echo foo | 7z a dummy -si -so > /dev/null > > (see http://bugs.debian.org/323932 for more details on this) > >I don't think the changes are trivial. Most likely the algorithm requires >random access, and with my very reduced knowledge in compression techniques or >p7zip internals, this isn't something I can fix. > Well, even if it does, one could always compress fixed-size chunks of data sequentially. >> Maybe the 7z lib that cloop uses [1] [2] could be used >> for a `real' tempfile-less p7zip? >> [...] >> [1] http://advancemame.sourceforge.net/comp-readme.html > >It reads: > >"Recompress ZIP, GZ, PNG and MNG files using the Deflate 7-Zip implementation." > >I don't think this means it supports 7z format. Most likely it just means it >took the deflate algorithm code (for gzip, etc) from the 7-zip program (the >Windows version, which is also LGPL). > Nono, it is indeed 7z (the algo is called LZMA afaik), it is used by cloop to get better compression than it had previosly (using gzip/bzip2 libs.) >> (I dont know the 7z file format, >> maybe a new format has to be created in order to require no seeking, >> meaning the extension would have to be changed as well. (like gzip >> had to do with the zip format.) so maybe we shouldn't standardize >> on a p7zip command just yet...) > >Sorry, I don't know the 7z format either. However, much like other compression >formats, it is versioned: > > rmh@aragorn:/tmp$ echo foo | p7zip | file - > /dev/stdin: 7z archive data, version 0.2 > >I don't think there's a problem with standarising on a p7zip command. Streaming >is IMHO an essential capability in Un*x-style compressors. I think it's better >to emulate it poorly via /tmp hacks, than not having it at all. For example, >tar expects compressor programs to support streaming, so if we want to patch it >to do something like this: > > $ tar -cIf foo.tar.7z bar > >we'll need that. (In fact, this is what I had in mind when writing this >script). > >In case p7zip supports streaming properly later on (either by bumping the format >version to 0.3 or not), we can get rid of the script, or modify it to something >that just provides a gzip-like CLI interface that tar would work with. > Well, i dont know if the 7z maintainers are interested in supporting streaming themselves, it could well happen they bump their version for other reasons, which means p7zip's version numbering would have to be orthogonal to theirs... >(please note, in the above example I'm referring to gnu tar. I don't know which >tar implementation is used in FreeBSD, but the same would apply, I think) > Actually bsdtar calls the compression libraries itself (libz and libbz2), so best would in fact be to turn p7zip into a library too, but _that_ could still be done later. >> Index: files/p7zip >> @@ -0,0 +1,74 @@ >> +#!/bin/sh >> +# gzip-like CLI wrapper for p7zip >> +set -e > >Btw, I would verify that the script works on FreeBSD. In particular, I'd check >the `mktemp' and `which' commands are present and work the same way. As for >shell, it needs bourne. I don't recall using any bashisms but I'm not 1:1 sure. Yes I had to adapt the script slightly, as you can see... Juergen From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 19 22:56:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AC4A16A41F for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:56:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B3943D6A for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:56:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C9A1A3C2A; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 15:56:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2D1E3511F9; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 18:56:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 18:56:26 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith Message-ID: <20051019225625.GA77565@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <43568DE0.70206@math.missouri.edu> <54330856@serv3.int.kfs.ru> <4356C48B.6040600@math.missouri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/04w6evG8XlLl3ft" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4356C48B.6040600@math.missouri.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: Boris Samorodov , ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: acroread7 problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:56:27 -0000 --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 05:11:23PM -0500, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > Boris Samorodov wrote: > >On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:18:08 -0500 Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > > > > > >>If I try to print a document from acroread7, it complains > >>/usr/bin/lp > >>not found.=20 > > > > > >Shouldn't it be /usr/bin/lpr? >=20 > That doesn't work either. Generally speaking, you should talk to the maintainer when you encounter a problem with his/her ports. Kris --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDVs8ZWry0BWjoQKURAutqAJ94ytzjU6XeDO77ceb4DGJr/gmL+ACg/nHe LjG5/fjPtVfuELnyn+/QmRE= =DN5j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 20 00:50:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F1B516A41F for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 00:50:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from laszlof@vonostingroup.com) Received: from ritamari.vonostingroup.com (ritamari.vonostingroup.com [216.144.193.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B696A43D8A for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 00:49:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from laszlof@vonostingroup.com) Received: from pcp02452302pcs.waldlk01.mi.comcast.net ([68.60.60.7] helo=[192.168.0.5]) by ritamari.vonostingroup.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1ESOd1-00009q-3U; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 20:49:55 -0400 Message-ID: <4356E982.6020501@vonostingroup.com> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 20:49:06 -0400 From: "Frank J. Laszlo" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041207) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-security@auscert.org.au, ports@FreeBSD.org References: <200510190018.j9J0Iqaj057044@app.auscert.org.au> In-Reply-To: <200510190018.j9J0Iqaj057044@app.auscert.org.au> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ritamari.vonostingroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [26 6] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - vonostingroup.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: Subject: Re: wget/curl vul X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 00:50:05 -0000 freebsd-security@auscert.org.au wrote: >Hi, > >Are plans afoot to upgrade wget soon? > ftp/wget was updated on 8/28/05. and ftp/curl on 10/14/05. cvsup your ports. Regards, Frank Laszlo From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 20 01:53:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32CB416A41F for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 01:53:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-in-03.arcor-online.net (mail-in-03.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ADBB43D64 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 01:53:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-in-01-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-01-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.13]) by mail-in-03.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20105823F1 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 03:53:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail-in-08.arcor-online.net (mail-in-08.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.48]) by mail-in-01-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E527ACD9 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 03:53:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lofi.dyndns.org (dslb-084-061-131-056.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.131.56]) by mail-in-08.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E65A94C47 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 03:53:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kiste.my.domain (root@kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.4]) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9K1rKWE053550 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 03:53:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from kiste.my.domain (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kiste.my.domain (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9K1rDU1021436 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 03:53:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by kiste.my.domain (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id j9K1Uecm020328; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 03:30:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kiste.my.domain: lofi set sender to lofi@freebsd.org using -f From: Michael Nottebrock To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 03:30:33 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <43568DE0.70206@math.missouri.edu> <54330856@serv3.int.kfs.ru> <4356C48B.6040600@math.missouri.edu> In-Reply-To: <4356C48B.6040600@math.missouri.edu> X-Face: =Ym$`&q\+S2X$4`X%x%6"L4>Y,$]<":'L%c9"#7#`2tb&E&wsN31on!N\)3BD[g<=?utf-8?q?=2EjnfV=5B=0A=093=23?=>XchLK,o; >bD>c:]^; :>0>vyZ.X[,63GW`&M>}nYnr]-Fp``,[[@lJ!QL|sfW!s)=?utf-8?q?A2!*=0A=09vNkB/=7CL-?=>&QdSbQg X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Cc: Boris Samorodov , Stephen Montgomery-Smith Subject: Re: acroread7 problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 01:53:45 -0000 --nextPart13792881.OdqpZvcbCA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday, 20. October 2005 00:11, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > Boris Samorodov wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:18:08 -0500 Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > >>If I try to print a document from acroread7, it complains > >>/usr/bin/lp > >>not found. > > > > Shouldn't it be /usr/bin/lpr? > > That doesn't work either. Replace it with just lp (without any path). It's a case of the linuxulator'= s=20 automatic path-mangling not quite working out as intended. =2D-=20 ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org --nextPart13792881.OdqpZvcbCA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDVvM/Xhc68WspdLARAp6XAJ9fom89AD5fBF0DMaX2ljnkoBDh3wCfWTFJ akkcE735/DOGNifiN063zLo= =Bfus -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart13792881.OdqpZvcbCA-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 20 02:26:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1240916A41F; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 02:26:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91.asp.att.net [204.127.203.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7994843D62; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 02:26:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from [10.0.0.4] (12-216-248-146.client.mchsi.com[12.216.248.146]) by sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91) with ESMTP id <20051020022622m9100dunrge>; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 02:26:22 +0000 Message-ID: <4357004D.4090308@math.missouri.edu> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:26:21 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050925 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Nottebrock References: <43568DE0.70206@math.missouri.edu> <54330856@serv3.int.kfs.ru> <4356C48B.6040600@math.missouri.edu> <200510200330.40069.lofi@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <200510200330.40069.lofi@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Boris Samorodov , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: acroread7 problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 02:26:24 -0000 Michael Nottebrock wrote: > On Thursday, 20. October 2005 00:11, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > >>Boris Samorodov wrote: >> >>>On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:18:08 -0500 Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: >>> >>>>If I try to print a document from acroread7, it complains >>>>/usr/bin/lp >>>>not found. >>> >>>Shouldn't it be /usr/bin/lpr? >> >>That doesn't work either. > > > Replace it with just lp (without any path). It's a case of the linuxulator's > automatic path-mangling not quite working out as intended. > Thanks. That worked great. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 20 03:21:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A8B016A421 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 03:21:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bh@izb.knu.ac.kr) Received: from izb.knu.ac.kr (izb.knu.ac.kr [155.230.157.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F5543D64 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 03:21:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bh@izb.knu.ac.kr) Received: (qmail 49451 invoked from network); 20 Oct 2005 12:21:37 +0900 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s384; d=izb.knu.ac.kr; b=ko3zwsHvKuwK6eRdMuful5yvxgbcYyjmmlLT2In5hBN5PecRzqTnfQ6J+lt0KCQ3 ; Received: from e.mx (HELO i.mx) (2002:9be6:9d5d:2::1) by e.mx (envelope-from bh@izb.knu.ac.kr) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 20 Oct 2005 12:21:37 +0900 Received: (qmail 49444 invoked from network); 20 Oct 2005 12:21:36 +0900 Received: from viola.izb.knu.ac.kr (2002:9be6:9d9f:3::2) by i.mx (envelope-from bh@izb.knu.ac.kr) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 20 Oct 2005 12:21:36 +0900 Received: by viola.izb.knu.ac.kr (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BCA0F6AFF; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:21:37 +0900 (KST) To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org From: Byung-Hee HWANG X-send-pr-version: 3.113 X-GNATS-Notify: Message-Id: <20051020032137.BCA0F6AFF@viola.izb.knu.ac.kr> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:21:37 +0900 (KST) Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: textproc/diffutils: timestamp precision X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Byung-Hee HWANG List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 03:21:44 -0000 >Submitter-Id: current-users >Originator: Byung-Hee HWANG >Organization: InZealBomb >Confidential: no >Synopsis: textproc/diffutils: timestamp precision >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Category: ports >Class: update >Release: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE i386 >Environment: System: FreeBSD viola.izb.knu.ac.kr 5.4-STABLE FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #0: Mon Sep 26 16:45:09 KST 2005 bh@viola.izb.knu.ac.kr:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/II82801BA i386 >Description: GNU Diff program have timestamp precision option of diff format. For example, see follow: --- hello.c.orig 2005-10-20 11:57:11.967564207 +0900 +++ hello.c 2005-10-20 11:57:20.547697157 +0900 As you can see, she can display NanoSeconds format. By the way, the option is not build under FreeBSD. Thus we need to patch for that. >How-To-Repeat: This patch has been tested under FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE and FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE. >Fix: --- ports-diffutils-timestamp-preision.diff begins here --- Index: Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/ports/textproc/diffutils/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -r1.5 Makefile --- Makefile 21 Dec 2003 00:22:51 -0000 1.5 +++ Makefile 20 Oct 2005 02:49:21 -0000 @@ -22,6 +22,12 @@ MAN1= gcmp.1 gdiff.1 gdiff3.1 gsdiff.1 +.if defined(WITH_TIMESTAMP_PRECISION) +PATCH_SITES+= http://izb.knu.ac.kr/~bh/diffs/ +PATCHFILES+= diffutils-2.8.1-timestamp_precision.diff +PATCH_DIST_STRIP+= -p1 +.endif + #post-extract: remove-info-files # #remove-info-files: @@ -37,5 +43,13 @@ # #install-info: # @${INSTALL_INFO} ${PREFIX}/info/${PORTNAME:S/utils//}.info ${PREFIX}/info/dir + +post-patch: +.if defined(WITH_TIMESTAMP_PRECISION) + @${ECHO_MSG} "" ; \ + ${ECHO_MSG} "===> This rule need to a change of sysctl value." ; \ + ${ECHO_MSG} "===> Do not forget to run the following command." ; \ + ${ECHO_MSG} "===> sysctl vfs.timestamp_precision=1" ; +.endif .include Index: distinfo =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/ports/textproc/diffutils/distinfo,v retrieving revision 1.3 diff -u -r1.3 distinfo --- distinfo 29 Jan 2004 16:11:56 -0000 1.3 +++ distinfo 20 Oct 2005 02:49:21 -0000 @@ -1,2 +1,4 @@ MD5 (diffutils-2.8.1.tar.gz) = 71f9c5ae19b60608f6c7f162da86a428 SIZE (diffutils-2.8.1.tar.gz) = 780086 +MD5 (diffutils-2.8.1-timestamp_precision.diff) = 1ac049df51ef80fe9acaba123b2a4128 +SIZE (diffutils-2.8.1-timestamp_precision.diff) = 1989 --- ports-diffutils-timestamp-preision.diff ends here --- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 20 04:09:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE15D16A41F; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 04:09:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joel@auscert.org.au) Received: from titania.auscert.org.au (gw.auscert.org.au [203.5.112.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5DDB43D6A; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 04:09:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joel@auscert.org.au) Received: from app.auscert.org.au (app [10.0.1.192]) by titania.auscert.org.au (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j9K48hio067036; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:08:43 +1000 (EST) Received: from app.auscert.org.au (localhost.auscert.org.au [127.0.0.1]) by app.auscert.org.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9K49T9h002380; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:09:31 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from joel@app.auscert.org.au) Message-Id: <200510200409.j9K49T9h002380@app.auscert.org.au> To: "Frank J. Laszlo" In-Reply-To: Message from "Frank J. Laszlo" of "Wed, 19 Oct 2005 20:49:06 -0400." <4356E982.6020501@vonostingroup.com> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:09:29 +1000 From: Joel Hatton Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, sf@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-security@auscert.org.au Subject: Re: wget/curl vul X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 04:09:37 -0000 Hi Frank, > freebsd-security@auscert.org.au wrote: > >Hi, > > > >Are plans afoot to upgrade wget soon? > > > ftp/wget was updated on 8/28/05. and ftp/curl on 10/14/05. cvsup your ports. I do. Regularly. I've also done so in the last 5 minutes. Wget has a vulnerability that was corrected at 1.10.2; the port still sources 1.10.1, and has no patch that appears to correct this. According to: http://www.gnu.org/software/wget/wget.html "The latest stable version of Wget is 1.10.2. This release contains fixes for a major security problem: a remotely exploitable buffer overflow vulnerability in the NTLM authentication code. All Wget users are strongly encouraged to upgrade their Wget installation to the last release." Are plans afoot to upgrade wget to 1.10.2 soon? Otherwise, I'd like to know if you believe that the FreeBSD port as it stands is not vulnerable. thanks, -- Joel Hatton -- Security Analyst | Hotline: +61 7 3365 4417 AusCERT - Australia's national CERT | Fax: +61 7 3365 7031 The University of Queensland | WWW: www.auscert.org.au Qld 4072 Australia | Email: auscert@auscert.org.au From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 20 08:54:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7397A16A41F for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 08:54:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83D4743D5A for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 08:53:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 667631A3C19; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 01:53:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7D6A451364; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 04:53:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 04:53:56 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Dirk Meyer Message-ID: <20051020085356.GA25427@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6TrnltStXW4iwmi0" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openssl-beta does not compile X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 08:54:00 -0000 --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 10:27:44AM +0200, Dirk Meyer wrote: > Jack L. schrieb:, >=20 > > =3D=3D=3D> Extracting for openssl-stable-0.9.8a > > =3D=3D=3D> Patching for openssl-stable-0.9.8a > > =3D=3D=3D> Applying FreeBSD patches for openssl-stable-0.9.8a > > =3D=3D=3D> Applying FreeBSD patch /usr/ports/security/openssl-beta/..= /openssl/files/patch-Configure >=20 > Your system seems to be mixed up. > openssl-stable should not go to openssl-beta. >=20 > Please check /etc/make.conf I've also seen this on the amd64 6.0-R package build, but have not yet had the chance to investigate. Kris --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDV1skWry0BWjoQKURArlPAKDew0WuiTVOQj99pD8K1UQagiwxtQCeMUdi T+NYxU6M2r2+dOszSQhLvhw= =V+XA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 20 10:43:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8871D16A420 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 10:43:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rmh@aybabtu.com) Received: from khazad.dyndns.org (216.red-62-57-140.user.auna.net [62.57.140.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D2043D62 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 10:43:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rmh@aybabtu.com) Received: from rmh by khazad.dyndns.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1ESXtR-0000Iq-F7; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:43:29 +0200 Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:43:28 +0200 From: Robert Millan To: Juergen Lock Message-ID: <20051020104328.GA1150@aragorn> References: <20051018140137.GA16159@aragorn> <20051018200544.GA26528@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <200510192246.j9JMkUIj013329@saturn.kn-bremen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200510192246.j9JMkUIj013329@saturn.kn-bremen.de> Sender: Robert Millan Organisation: free as in freedom User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gzip-like CLI wrapper for p7zip X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 10:43:24 -0000 On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 12:46:30AM +0200, Juergen Lock wrote: > > > >I don't think the changes are trivial. Most likely the algorithm requires > >random access, and with my very reduced knowledge in compression techniques or > >p7zip internals, this isn't something I can fix. > > > Well, even if it does, one could always compress fixed-size chunks of > data sequentially. Ah, good point :) > >Sorry, I don't know the 7z format either. However, much like other compression > >formats, it is versioned: > > > > rmh@aragorn:/tmp$ echo foo | p7zip | file - > > /dev/stdin: 7z archive data, version 0.2 > > Well, i dont know if the 7z maintainers are interested in supporting > streaming themselves, it could well happen they bump their version > for other reasons, which means p7zip's version numbering would have > to be orthogonal to theirs... AFAIK, p7zip attempts to track 7zip sources closely and merge stuff. But even if it forked, it'd be very unlikely (and counter-productive) to also fork the file format specs. I don't think 7zip maintainers have a problem integrating streaming support if it doesn't break anything (but if you're concerned about that, never hurts to ask..) Please let me know if you add that wrapper script. -- Robert Millan From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 20 11:51:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3E7C16A41F; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 11:51:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from laszlof@vonostingroup.com) Received: from ritamari.vonostingroup.com (ritamari.vonostingroup.com [216.144.193.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB2E243D66; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 11:51:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from laszlof@vonostingroup.com) Received: from pcp02452302pcs.waldlk01.mi.comcast.net ([68.60.60.7] helo=[192.168.0.5]) by ritamari.vonostingroup.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1ESYxD-000B8R-S6; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 07:51:28 -0400 Message-ID: <4357848D.2030109@vonostingroup.com> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 07:50:37 -0400 From: "Frank J. Laszlo" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041207) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joel Hatton References: <200510200409.j9K49T9h002380@app.auscert.org.au> In-Reply-To: <200510200409.j9K49T9h002380@app.auscert.org.au> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ritamari.vonostingroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [26 6] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - vonostingroup.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, sf@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-security@auscert.org.au Subject: Re: wget/curl vul X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 11:51:32 -0000 Joel Hatton wrote: >Hi Frank, > > >>freebsd-security@auscert.org.au wrote: >> >>>Hi, >>> >>>Are plans afoot to upgrade wget soon? >>> >>> >>ftp/wget was updated on 8/28/05. and ftp/curl on 10/14/05. cvsup your ports. >> > >I do. Regularly. I've also done so in the last 5 minutes. Wget has a >vulnerability that was corrected at 1.10.2; the port still sources 1.10.1, >and has no patch that appears to correct this. According to: > >http://www.gnu.org/software/wget/wget.html > >"The latest stable version of Wget is 1.10.2. This release contains fixes >for a major security problem: a remotely exploitable buffer overflow >vulnerability in the NTLM authentication code. All Wget users are strongly >encouraged to upgrade their Wget installation to the last release." > >Are plans afoot to upgrade wget to 1.10.2 soon? Otherwise, I'd like to >know if you believe that the FreeBSD port as it stands is not vulnerable. > > My mistake, I only read part of the vulnerability report. If the maintainer hasnt allready, I'll submit an update for wget. Regards, Frank Laszlo From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 20 12:05:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC9416A420 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:05:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scheidell@secnap.net) Received: from mail.secnap.net (mail.secnap.com [204.89.241.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7FE543D5A for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:05:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scheidell@secnap.net) Received: from family (unknown [10.96.0.14]) by mail.secnap.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 08276205E; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 08:05:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000201c5d56e$94076a80$0e00600a@family> From: "Michael Scheidell" To: Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 08:05:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD Port: metasploit-2.5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:05:28 -0000 HD: Congradulations on a very clean port. Yonatan: I hope you don't take offense by my submissions. It was trivial but I wanted to test 2.5 this morning. Patches to upgrade metasploit 2.4_1 to 2.5. as trivial as this is, no attribution is expected or wanted. --- Makefile.orig Fri Jun 10 20:13:33 2005 +++ Makefile Thu Oct 20 07:47:58 2005 @@ -6,8 +6,7 @@ # PORTNAME= metasploit -PORTVERSION= 2.4 -PORTREVISION= 1 +PORTVERSION= 2.5 CATEGORIES= security MASTER_SITES= http://www.metasploit.org/tools/ DISTNAME= framework-${PORTVERSION} --- distinfo.orig Fri Jun 10 20:13:33 2005 +++ distinfo Thu Oct 20 07:54:05 2005 @@ -1,2 +1,2 @@ -MD5 (framework-2.4.tar.gz) = cb3319b92399c7fab68c742dc750589e -SIZE (framework-2.4.tar.gz) = 2607730 +MD5 (framework-2.5.tar.gz) = af317c1c673a1ce4523c6fa7b651e1c5 +SIZE (framework-2.5.tar.gz) = 2625719 From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 19 16:00:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBFFB16A41F; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 16:00:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iang@iang.org) Received: from mf1.sonance.net (mx2.sonance.net [62.116.45.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDBBE43D46; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 16:00:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iang@iang.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mf1.sonance.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6864A1400E; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:52:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mf1.sonance.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mf1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16493-03; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:52:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from postix.sonance.net (zentrix [192.168.0.223]) by mf1.sonance.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BB1A13EC7; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:52:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postix.sonance.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CCAE17B46E; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:52:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from postix.sonance.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zentrix [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24489-07; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:52:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [IPv6???1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postix.sonance.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 694EA17B45C; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:52:16 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <43539EB0.5010005@iang.org> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 13:53:04 +0100 From: Ian G Organization: http://iang.org/ User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050921) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wes Peters References: <200510150015.j9F0ExKr085847@sakura.ninth-nine.com> <20051015053003.GB28137@soaustin.net> <4350CE50.8080704@ebs.gr> <5739E97B-7EDC-4971-9EA5-01A44688A981@softweyr.com> <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> <1B8112AF-8C0E-4BA0-8D1C-DA6AD529F327@softweyr.com> In-Reply-To: <1B8112AF-8C0E-4BA0-8D1C-DA6AD529F327@softweyr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at sonance.net X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at example.com X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:38:44 +0000 Cc: tux@pinguru.net, wes@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-eclipse@FreeBSD.org, mitsuru@riken.jp, Norikatsu Shigemura , rtdean@cytherianage.net, sugimura@jp.FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, Mark Linimon , Panagiotis Astithas , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 16:00:28 -0000 (To all) Wes Peters wrote: > That's exactly the point I was (and am) trying to argue against. I > have to resort to 'make search' to find emacs tools these days because > they've been thrown all over the ports system by well-meaning but > misguided contributors, and I'd hate to see that happen to eclipse > tools too. As the directory structure imposes Big->Small naming on the ports, and this is always going to be inadequate. Many ports will have multiple namings and multiple ways of indexing that make lots of sense. The directory structure gives one indexing and one name only though. The problem is not where Eclipse or a plugin is located, rather, it is that the directory structure cannot support anything more complex than the simplest naming schemes. Moving Eclipse does not change this, only improving the search tools can help here. So what is needed is something that deals with: searchports eclipse plugin python or somesuch. iang From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 20 14:27:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC72116A423 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:27:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from onatan@gmail.com) Received: from qproxy.gmail.com (qproxy.gmail.com [72.14.204.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB9343D69 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:27:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from onatan@gmail.com) Received: by qproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a39so351218qbd for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 07:27:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=NJGPOtKOP79WkbQYLNAAzLTbbSI46hR9Oid7WB4fVzefa/aZnc0O9FRaOJR3zfh9I8HBWXe8vqZ+2yX8uEQMy5CBR3Mic3Xvq/xIHEDPvVrPPo6mAfc1mIujTEYmUWBjkyN1hlEzisyIRm4U83oaTIB8toDzM4prhPaHGUhrSm8= Received: by 10.65.185.2 with SMTP id m2mr1518825qbp; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 07:27:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.27.17 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 07:27:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:27:33 +0200 From: Jonatan B To: Michael Scheidell In-Reply-To: <000201c5d56e$94076a80$0e00600a@family> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <000201c5d56e$94076a80$0e00600a@family> Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Port: metasploit-2.5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:27:40 -0000 On 10/20/05, Michael Scheidell wrote: > HD: > Congradulations on a very clean port. > > Yonatan: I hope you don't take offense by my submissions. It was trivia= l > but I wanted to test 2.5 this morning. > > Patches to upgrade metasploit 2.4_1 to 2.5. as trivial as this is, no > attribution is expected or wanted. Thank you for the patch. I'm on vacation, so I can't test it. I'll get to it early next week. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 20 14:30:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A59D16A41F; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:30:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@eddie.nitro.dk) Received: from eddie.nitro.dk (cpe.atm2-0-71337.0x535ccf26.taanxx2.customer.tele.dk [83.92.207.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA7B43D62; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:30:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@eddie.nitro.dk) Received: by eddie.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 47ABE119C50; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:30:33 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:30:33 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Joel Hatton Message-ID: <20051020143032.GA37657@eddie.nitro.dk> References: <4356E982.6020501@vonostingroup.com> <200510200409.j9K49T9h002380@app.auscert.org.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200510200409.j9K49T9h002380@app.auscert.org.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, sf@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-security@auscert.org.au, "Frank J. Laszlo" Subject: Re: wget/curl vul X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:30:35 -0000 --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2005.10.20 14:09:29 +1000, Joel Hatton wrote: > Are plans afoot to upgrade wget to 1.10.2 soon? The wget port was updated about an hour ago. --=20 Simon L. Nielsen --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDV6oIh9pcDSc1mlERApuNAJ4/Tzn29Zn6eG2sOY2OXg5rWFqNWACfTl5F YNnh4p0RIlp6xgnDM/Y1CkY= =/FXy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 20 14:52:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8975316A41F for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:52:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subscriber@insignia.com) Received: from highland.isltd.insignia.com (highland.isltd.insignia.com [195.74.141.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB4143D5A for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:52:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subscriber@insignia.com) Received: from inchgower-e1.isltd.insignia.com (inchgower-e0.isltd.insignia.com [195.74.141.61]) by highland.isltd.insignia.com (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j9KEqQmF008215 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:52:28 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from subscriber@insignia.com) Received: from exchange-uk.internal.local (exchange-uk [172.16.64.9]) by inchgower-e1.isltd.insignia.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9KEIWqY092211 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:18:32 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from subscriber@insignia.com) Received: from dylan.internal.local ([172.16.64.69]) by exchange-uk.internal.local with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 44GXR851; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:18:32 +0100 From: Jim Hatfield To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:18:32 +0100 Organization: Insignia Solutions Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 3.1/32.783 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.53 on 195.74.141.1 Subject: Another p5-Net-DNS problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:52:30 -0000 Doing a portupgrade of p5-Mail-SpamAssassin gets me: >=3D=3D=3D> p5-Mail-SpamAssassin-3.1.0_3 depends on package: = p5-Net-DNS>=3D0.53 - not found However: >highland# pkg_info | grep DNS >p5-Net-DNS-0.53 Perl5 interface to the DNS resolver, and dynamic = updates I worked around by editing the SpamAssassin Makefile to remove the dependency check. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 20 15:43:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1CD316A41F for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:43:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subscriber@insignia.com) Received: from highland.isltd.insignia.com (highland.isltd.insignia.com [195.74.141.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 426BE43D66 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:43:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subscriber@insignia.com) Received: from inchgower-e1.isltd.insignia.com (inchgower-e0.isltd.insignia.com [195.74.141.61]) by highland.isltd.insignia.com (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j9KFhjmB017037 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:43:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from subscriber@insignia.com) Received: from exchange-uk.internal.local (exchange-uk [172.16.64.9]) by inchgower-e1.isltd.insignia.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9KFhj6o092322 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:43:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from subscriber@insignia.com) Received: from dylan.internal.local ([172.16.64.69]) by exchange-uk.internal.local with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 44GXR87R; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:43:45 +0100 From: Jim Hatfield To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:43:45 +0100 Organization: Insignia Solutions Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 3.1/32.783 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.53 on 195.74.141.1 Subject: Anyone else having stunnel problems? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:43:46 -0000 The recent upgrade of openssl, combined with upgrading stunnel, means that the daemon dies as soon as a connection is made: >Oct 20 16:35:25 highland stunnel[17005]: stunnel 4.11 on = i386-unknown-freebsd4.7 PTHREAD+POLL+IPv4+LIBWRAP with OpenSSL 0.9.8a 11 = Oct 2005 >Oct 20 16:35:25 highland stunnel[17005]: 889 clients allowed >Oct 20 16:35:25 highland stunnel[17006]: stunnel.imap connected from = 194.218.37.200:35395 >Oct 20 16:35:25 highland /kernel: pid 17006 (stunnel), uid 0: exited on = signal 11 (core dumped) Since I have a few people getting their mail through pop3/ssl and imap/ssl, this is a bit of a bummer... From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 20 16:58:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0B8316A41F for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:58:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subscriber@insignia.com) Received: from highland.isltd.insignia.com (highland.isltd.insignia.com [195.74.141.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDC7543D5A for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:58:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subscriber@insignia.com) Received: from inchgower-e1.isltd.insignia.com (inchgower-e0.isltd.insignia.com [195.74.141.61]) by highland.isltd.insignia.com (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j9KGwWmB065445 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:58:33 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from subscriber@insignia.com) Received: from exchange-uk.internal.local (exchange-uk [172.16.64.9]) by inchgower-e1.isltd.insignia.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9KGwW2L092444 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:58:32 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from subscriber@insignia.com) Received: from dylan.internal.local ([172.16.64.69]) by exchange-uk.internal.local with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 44GXR80A; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:58:32 +0100 From: Jim Hatfield To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:58:32 +0100 Organization: Insignia Solutions Message-ID: <9qifl19b80abt1sonoife3rc40q7gb0q5h@4ax.com> References: <3203DF3DDE57D411AFF4009027B8C3677495A4@exchange-uk.internal.local> In-Reply-To: <3203DF3DDE57D411AFF4009027B8C3677495A4@exchange-uk.internal.local> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 3.1/32.783 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.53 on 195.74.141.1 Subject: Re: Anyone else having stunnel problems? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:58:43 -0000 On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:43:45 +0100, in local.freebsd.ports you wrote: >The recent upgrade of openssl, combined with upgrading stunnel, >means that the daemon dies as soon as a connection is made: OK so I have used portdowngrade to downgrade openssl to 0.9.7g, and stunnel to 4.10. The portupgrade -f of openssl went OK, so I now have libcrypto.so.3 and not libcrypto.so.4. However when I try to build stunnel I get: >=3D=3D=3D> stunnel-4.10 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so.4= - not found Where is it configured to require that particular version? I see nothing in the Makefile. This is killing me, I have someone out in Thailand at a customer site who gets his mail via imap/ssl and he's now cut off. It's things like this which makes me want never to upgrade a machine once it's installed and working, but with openssl you don't have a choice since the upgrades are to fix security problems. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 20 17:25:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 782C016A420 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:25:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subscriber@insignia.com) Received: from highland.isltd.insignia.com (highland.isltd.insignia.com [195.74.141.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C068343D5A for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:25:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subscriber@insignia.com) Received: from inchgower-e1.isltd.insignia.com (inchgower-e0.isltd.insignia.com [195.74.141.61]) by highland.isltd.insignia.com (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j9KHPdmB097234 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 18:25:39 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from subscriber@insignia.com) Received: from exchange-uk.internal.local (exchange-uk [172.16.64.9]) by inchgower-e1.isltd.insignia.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9KHPdrO092473 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 18:25:39 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from subscriber@insignia.com) Received: from dylan.internal.local ([172.16.64.69]) by exchange-uk.internal.local with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 44GXR80R; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 18:25:39 +0100 From: Jim Hatfield To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 18:25:39 +0100 Organization: Insignia Solutions Message-ID: References: <3203DF3DDE57D411AFF4009027B8C367749653@exchange-uk.internal.local> In-Reply-To: <3203DF3DDE57D411AFF4009027B8C367749653@exchange-uk.internal.local> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 3.1/32.783 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.53 on 195.74.141.1 Subject: Re: Anyone else having stunnel problems? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:25:44 -0000 On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:58:32 +0100, in local.freebsd.ports you wrote: >However when I try to build stunnel I get: > >>=3D=3D=3D> stunnel-4.10 depends on file: = /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so.4 - >not found > >Where is it configured to require that particular version? >I see nothing in the Makefile. OK, so it's in /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.openssl.mk. portdowngrade claims not to know anything about it so I had to hack it to change the libcrypto version from 4 to 3. And stunnel now builds and runs. Phew! From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 20 17:48:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFCD016A41F for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:48:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nocturnal@swehack.se) Received: from mail2.swebase.com (mail2.swebase.com [82.99.44.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BA6643D64 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:48:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nocturnal@swehack.se) Received: from [83.249.140.66] by mail2.swebase.com (MDaemon.PRO.v8.1.0.R) with ESMTP id md50003267468.msg for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:47:13 +0200 Message-ID: <4357D830.7060506@swehack.se> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:47:28 +0200 From: nocturnal User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050819) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MDRemoteIP: 83.249.140.66 X-Return-Path: nocturnal@swehack.se X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on mail2 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Processed: mail2.swebase.com, Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:47:14 +0200 Subject: Flaws in the ports system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:48:53 -0000 Hi This is a very low priority discussion but i was just wondering if there are any known design flaws in the ports system or other reasons for the ports to be replaced by a new system. I'm wondering because ever since i started with freebsd and then discovered the ports they have been working perfectly so i must know if they truly are perfect or if some of you gurus out there see flaws in the system. This is 100% curiosity. -- Med vänliga hälsningar Stefan Midjich aka nocturnal [Swehack] http://swehack.se From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 20 19:44:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C39516A420 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:44:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com (dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com [68.99.120.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B039343D66 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:44:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dns1 ([64.58.171.82]) by dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051020194457.SZCT7750.dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com@dns1>; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:44:57 -0400 From: Vizion To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:39:48 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <4357D830.7060506@swehack.se> In-Reply-To: <4357D830.7060506@swehack.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510201239.50154.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> Cc: nocturnal Subject: Re: Flaws in the ports system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:44:51 -0000 On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:47, the author nocturnal contributed to the dialogue on- Flaws in the ports system?: >Hi > >This is a very low priority discussion but i was just wondering if there >are any known design flaws in the ports system or other reasons for the >ports to be replaced by a new system. > >I'm wondering because ever since i started with freebsd and then >discovered the ports they have been working perfectly so i must know if >they truly are perfect or if some of you gurus out there see flaws in >the system. The system meets its original design specification - so to that extent I do not believe that the system is flawed. There is however, in my opinion, a big BUT>>>> With the changes in computing methodology and user expectations over the last 10 years the ports system appear to me to be in need of some immediate serious revision if Freebsd is going to be seen as meeting current and future challenges and user expectations. I am but one voice and what I have to say is only my opinion. I see the following challenges: 1. The user tools for maintaining the local ports collection do not include an integrated GUI for management of the ports tree, local installation, automated upgrading of the ports combined with configuration files. Such a management could be built using, for example, a web/database system or with a framework such as Eclipse. FreeBSD has been built upon the traditional **ix framework that relies, for its management, upon the sequential use of multiple tools to solve problems. This is apowerful method for problem solving but it has not traditionally included the kind of user friendly GUI to which modern computer users are accustomed to and expect. To deliver a new ports GUI would be a large project and, in a ddition to the foregoing ewquirements, should include a sophisticated ability to search information about th ports and link with port focused dynamic help files and provide an efficient interuser dialogue for each port. 2. The ports system design takes for granted an application centric model which was the only model current at the time the ports system was conceived. This meant that all application were sorted into categories into which, by and large, every known piece of software culd be fitted. The introduction of a framework centric computing model (such as eclipse) and application which rely upon layers (such as java) between the operating and the application/framework have put strains upon the structure of the ports system which it was not possible to anticipate at the design stage. The limitations of the current ports hierarch have been the cause of substantial arguments where I have been a vocal advocate for revision. my two pennorth David -- 40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Taurus. Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing bound for Europe via Panama Canal after completing engineroom refit. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 20 20:03:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 642CD16A41F for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:03:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65D843D5A for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:03:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 685483054; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:03:15 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:03:15 -0500 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051020200315.GA25164@soaustin.net> References: <20051017153024.GA23494@arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr> <20051017212748.GD71766@isis.sigpipe.cz> <790a9fff0510171505i4010cc05yc30f67d459d1a0e4@mail.gmail.com> <20051018010446.GH71766@isis.sigpipe.cz> <20051018011616.GA57969@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051018153752.GB11790@soaustin.net> <20051018160725.GB87664@isis.sigpipe.cz> <20051018162907.GB14192@soaustin.net> <20051019214018.GA5180@isis.sigpipe.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051019214018.GA5180@isis.sigpipe.cz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:03:16 -0000 On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 11:40:18PM +0200, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > > > What are you missing from make search? I'll try and add it if it's > > > within reasonable bounds of complexity. > > > > e.g. searching when you don't know the exact spelling of the name. > > Would optional use of double metaphone or another algorithm help? > Also, another variable, e. g. KEYWORDS, could be used. Please feel free. I just feel uneasy about having things like that encoded in Makefiles. I would rather see separate tools which 'make search' could then invoke -- but then, so could any kind of web-based app. (The old Unix philosophy of 'small tools in combination'). IMHO we have too much monolithic sh/sed/awk/perl magic in the make-framework as it is but that's an axe I will grind in a different venue. > > "show me the ports that have something to do with the Internet"; > > What are you missing from make search cat=net ? (I'm not suggesting > you don't have valid complaints, I'd like to learn about them.) Well, there _are_ a few Internet-related ports in net-mgmt, wwww, ... > > "show me a list of plugins that work with Apache2". > > Create a virtual category, apache_mod, and then: > > make search cat=apache_mod > > Go a step further, use materialized virtual categories, and do > > ls apache_mod > > If you think this wouldn't fly, I'd also like to hear the reasoning. Because now you have to create a virtual category for anything that anyone could possibly think to search on. Creating some kind of tag-based system would be better. Then you get people thinking about the tags as meta-information and then whatever underlying directory structure becomes an implementation detail. > > > How will the Wes' colleagues find it? You need to be able to find > > > a port to install it. If a port is required to make sense of the > > > structure, we need a bootstrap mechanism, like something in the > > > base. Like, ls. > > > > Don't be silly. > > I don't think I am. I'm pointing out a chicken-and-egg condition > present in your proposal. I don't think there is any such thing. People install portugprade and cvsup without searching for them. They, and other, tools are well-known. Many more ports (in fact the majority) are not. So if you create some kind of port-browser tool like portmanager, people can still install that. The documenation about the port system can (and should) document the management tools, outside of the need to run 'make search' to look for them. Or perhaps someone(TM) could come up with meta-port that would pull in all the interesting ports management tools -- one meta- port for users, one meta-port for developers. How would that sound? (Note: this is a trick question.) > > Neither portupgrade nor cvsup are in base. People pkg_install them > > and then they're good to go. > > Neither tries to facilitate the browsing or searching of the > collection, and I consider their being part of the problem they try > to solve their weakest spot. You're entitled to your opinion. > > ls is _not_, by any stretch of the imagination, an adequate tool > > unless you already have a pretty good idea of what it is you're > > looking for. > > Same applies to Google, or basically any search interface, or, > closer to the topic, to FreshPorts, which I used about thrice in my > life, BTW. Well, if you don't think Google is an easier interface to use for vague queries than 'make search' or 'ls', by all means, stick to it. My own opinion is that you're going to be in a minority but I'm not going to spend any more time convincing you otherwise. > I've learned over the last 15 years that the most comfortable UI for > the majority of people is a single OK button in the middle of the > screen. I'm fine with that unless someone tries to shove it down > *my* throat. I never said we'd get rid of 'make search'. What I said is that I believe is that for a large group of people it is not going to meet their needs. I don't know where you came up with the idea that I was discouraging its use. I just don't think it adequately solves the problem. Your Mileage Apparently Varies. [mentions language categories] > then there's surely room for > > 24 /usr/ports/eclipse > > And, 1620 /usr/ports/devel could use a close look at. The problem is: how do you present the information about categories? If we let every logical group of 24 ports have its own category*, and eliding for sake of this discussion whether it is physical or virtual, now you have up to 13666/24=569 categories. Presenting a list of more than a couple hundred of _anything_ is just useless, as you can see by trying to look through the devel/ports (no matter whatever mechanism you choose). If you break devel/ into 1620/24=67 categories you haven't solved any real problem; you've instead moved the problem up one level and spent a great deal of developer time to do it. Now, instead of all this email debate, a few days ago I talked Edwin Groothius into implementing a test idea about how to break up the existing category list on http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/ into logical groups. It's inadequate but a) it's better than the flat space and b) it's actual code rather than just talk. I will note that there has been _zero_ feedback on this change, pro or con. IMHO it's a little, tiny, step towards exploring ideas about how to display this information. And frankly at this point I'd rather try to continue to prototype different approaches than spend any more time on this discussion. mcl * which many people want to do, from reasons ranging from valid to IMHO mere ego-boosting From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 20 20:05:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7118F16A41F for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:05:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from hood.oook.cz (hood.oook.cz [212.27.205.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5895143D5A for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:05:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from ikaros.oook.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hood.oook.cz (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9KK5Q2K036878 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:05:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from pav@localhost) by ikaros.oook.cz (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j9KK5P0T036877; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:05:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: ikaros.oook.cz: pav set sender to pav@FreeBSD.org using -f From: Pav Lucistnik To: Jim Hatfield In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-i1QsOeke1jwf7mYTiizQ" Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:05:25 +0200 Message-Id: <1129838725.36416.3.camel@ikaros.oook.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Anyone else having stunnel problems? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: pav@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:05:28 -0000 --=-i1QsOeke1jwf7mYTiizQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jim Hatfield p=ED=B9e v =E8t 20. 10. 2005 v 16:43 +0100: > The recent upgrade of openssl, combined with upgrading stunnel, > means that the daemon dies as soon as a connection is made: >=20 > >Oct 20 16:35:25 highland stunnel[17005]: stunnel 4.11 on i386-unknown-fr= eebsd4.7 PTHREAD+POLL+IPv4+LIBWRAP with OpenSSL 0.9.8a 11 Oct 2005 > >Oct 20 16:35:25 highland stunnel[17005]: 889 clients allowed > >Oct 20 16:35:25 highland stunnel[17006]: stunnel.imap connected from 194= .218.37.200:35395 > >Oct 20 16:35:25 highland /kernel: pid 17006 (stunnel), uid 0: exited on = signal 11 (core dumped) Yes. Was cured by recompiling stunnel. --=20 Pav Lucistnik Angband in action! Constant escalation to new depths to find angrier, meaner letters and more punctuation! --=-i1QsOeke1jwf7mYTiizQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDV/iFntdYP8FOsoIRAp3vAJ9FdKtwEBfQGaJkbMGAEU7yjNyC8gCgwVxD nRtgdpbg52FJNbU91otpd7s= =WnGH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-i1QsOeke1jwf7mYTiizQ-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 20 22:05:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E4516A41F; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:05:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@austrosearch.at) Received: from kathi.vvi.at (kathi.vvi.at [208.252.225.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8539D43D62; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:05:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@austrosearch.at) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (chello084114128252.2.15.vie.surfer.at [84.114.128.252]) (authenticated bits=0) by kathi.vvi.at (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9KM4uYR090918; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:05:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jason@austrosearch.at) Message-ID: <4358147B.3060407@austrosearch.at> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 00:04:43 +0200 From: Austrosearch - Jason de Cordoba Organization: Austrosearch - directory and search engine for Austria User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ale@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms010303070006020709000807" X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0542-0, 10/17/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD Port: php5-extensions-1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:05:06 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms010303070006020709000807 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I get the following message If you define WANT_PHP_SCR you cannot set also WANT_PHP_CGI Am I missing something or why does it not print out the offending php-extension port? Thanks in advance, Jason tammy# make install ===> Installing for php5-extensions-1.0 ===> php5-extensions-1.0 depends on executable: pear - not found ===> Verifying install for pear in /usr/ports/devel/php5-pear If you define WANT_PHP_SCR you cannot set also WANT_PHP_CGI or WANT_PHP_CLI. 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TRmjPqb+OBTbt1D550EllEyQ2FRu+MT3uVlRbFxSmPGFah991+AqdK7+3wufvEYoAAAAAAAA --------------ms010303070006020709000807-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 20 22:15:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93EFB16A41F for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:15:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from edwin@mavetju.org) Received: from mail3out.barnet.com.au (mail3out.barnet.com.au [202.83.176.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 134F943D5A for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:15:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from edwin@mavetju.org) Received: by mail3out.barnet.com.au (Postfix, from userid 27) id D27F4877CBD; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 08:15:46 +1000 (EST) X-Viruscan-Id: <4358171200011479395D67@BarNet> Received: from mail3-auth.barnet.com.au (mail3.barnet.com.au [202.83.176.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.barnet.com.au", Issuer "BarNet Root Certificate Authority" (verified OK)) by mail3.barnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9E44877CBA; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 08:15:46 +1000 (EST) Received: from k7.mavetju (edwin-3.int.barnet.com.au [10.10.12.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "edwin.adsl.barnet.com.au", Issuer "BarNet Root Certificate Authority" (not verified)) by mail3-auth.barnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 558EA877C20; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 08:15:46 +1000 (EST) Received: by k7.mavetju (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F30756360; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 08:15:44 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 08:15:44 +1000 From: Edwin Groothuis To: Vizion Message-ID: <20051020221544.GJ1278@k7.mavetju> References: <4357D830.7060506@swehack.se> <200510201239.50154.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200510201239.50154.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: nocturnal , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flaws in the ports system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:15:49 -0000 On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 12:39:48PM -0700, Vizion wrote: > The system meets its original design specification - so to that extent I do > not believe that the system is flawed. There is however, in my opinion, a big > BUT>>>> This is 100% true :-) > 1. The user tools for maintaining the local ports collection do not include an > integrated GUI for management of the ports tree, local installation, > automated upgrading of the ports combined with configuration files. Such a Try sysutils/portbrowser. Haven't used it myself, but heard about it. Edwin -- Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.mavetju.org edwin@mavetju.org | Weblog: http://weblog.barnet.com.au/edwin/ From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 20 23:17:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FCA616A41F; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 23:17:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joel@auscert.org.au) Received: from titania.auscert.org.au (gw.auscert.org.au [203.5.112.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F07743D62; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 23:17:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joel@auscert.org.au) Received: from app.auscert.org.au (app [10.0.1.192]) by titania.auscert.org.au (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j9KNGLio072834; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:16:21 +1000 (EST) Received: from app.auscert.org.au (localhost.auscert.org.au [127.0.0.1]) by app.auscert.org.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9KNHBtU055137; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:17:11 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from joel@app.auscert.org.au) Message-Id: <200510202317.j9KNHBtU055137@app.auscert.org.au> To: "Simon L. Nielsen" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:30:33 +0200." <20051020143032.GA37657@eddie.nitro.dk> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:17:11 +1000 From: Joel Hatton Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, sf@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-security@auscert.org.au, "Frank J. Laszlo" Subject: Re: wget/curl vul X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 23:17:16 -0000 Thanks Simon (and Frank), > On 2005.10.20 14:09:29 +1000, Joel Hatton wrote: > > > Are plans afoot to upgrade wget to 1.10.2 soon? > > The wget port was updated about an hour ago. I'm updating now :) I really appreciate your efforts - wget is quite an important application for us. cheers, -- Joel Hatton -- Security Analyst | Hotline: +61 7 3365 4417 AusCERT - Australia's national CERT | Fax: +61 7 3365 7031 The University of Queensland | WWW: www.auscert.org.au Qld 4072 Australia | Email: auscert@auscert.org.au From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 20 23:19:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60CBD16A41F for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 23:19:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from benlutz@datacomm.ch) Received: from maxlor.mine.nu (c-213-160-32-54.customer.ggaweb.ch [213.160.32.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D57043D62 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 23:19:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from benlutz@datacomm.ch) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by maxlor.mine.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15DAD2E03B; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 01:19:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maxlor.mine.nu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (atlantis.intranet [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17120-01; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 01:19:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.0.0.17] (mini.intranet [10.0.0.17]) by maxlor.mine.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE0F2E038; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 01:19:16 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <435825F8.4020305@datacomm.ch> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 01:19:20 +0200 From: Benjamin Lutz User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Macintosh/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nocturnal References: <4357D830.7060506@swehack.se> In-Reply-To: <4357D830.7060506@swehack.se> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig86718D3B4871B1D6B96C0D35" X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at atlantis.intranet Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flaws in the ports system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 23:19:31 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig86718D3B4871B1D6B96C0D35 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nocturnal wrote: > This is a very low priority discussion but i was just wondering if there > are any known design flaws in the ports system or other reasons for the > ports to be replaced by a new system. They work well, more or less, and certainly as intended. There's a couple of things though that I think are not solved optimally: - Support for different versions of a software package. As of now, if there's a need to have different versions of a package in the ports, it means creating several "top-level" ports. An example for this is tcl: There's a lang/tcl80, lang/tcl82, lang/tcl83 and lang/tcl84. Imo Gentoo's portage solves this better, it supports different versions of the same port: In dev-lang/tcl I find the following files: tcl-8.3.4.ebuild, tcl-8.4.6.ebuild, tcl-8.4.6-r1.ebuild, tcl-8.4.9.ebuild and tcl-8.4.11.ebuild. As far as I can tell (I'm not a portage guru, just a user) new versions are created as a new ebuild, and old versions are eventually dropped from the repository. This gives a "moving window", which I think is nice. - Configuration management. This is hard to get right, but I don't think that simply littering /usr/local/etc with .sample files is the best way to solve it. I've seen some infrastructure in place to automagically merge config file changes, but I didn't notice it being used so far. As it is, upgrading daemons means lots of manual labour (scanning the sample config file for changes, or even redoing the configuration from scratch), which every admin has to do, and which could maybe be pooled so the port maintainer does most of it, and the users could simply say y/n a few times in a tool like mergemaster. - Mirror selection. For us europeans, the US sourceforge mirror which is used by a lot of ports by default is very slow. It is possible to override the mirror selection by setting some variables in make.conf, but it's far from apparent how to do so, or that it is even possible. Additionally, while fetch seems to have some support for resuming interrupted downloads, often enough a partial or corrupted existing distfile leads to fetch doing nothing at all. The solution is easy, just delete the existing distfile, but the tools don't hint at that. - Speed. The ports use of makefiles as prime mechanism makes it very flexible, but given the sheer number of ports we have by now, it's also become slow. Building an INDEX takes forever, and pkg_version is painful to use on slow machines. A result of that is that we now have a number of add-on tools that speed up things with binary dbs and caches, however I consider those a work-around, not a solution. Basically, I think that the current system doesn't scale too well. One possibility I can think of that alleviates the problem a bit without changing the existing structure (there's this POLA thing I guess) is changing make(1) so it recurses inside the same process, instead of launching a new process for every submakefile (or maybe it already does that? I don't know). Another possibility would be making it possible to determine some static configuration, say, a ports version number, quicker, without having to call make (I realize that with things like slave ports, even a version number is not that static. Maybe there could be a fallback for those cases?). Another possibility would be moving to a binary DB right away, relying on tools to extract the information. This would make cvsup difficult though. The other efficiency thing is the number of files in /usr/ports now. There's *a lot* of them. - Searching. Personally, I strongly dislike make search because its way too verbose. Search results easily fill several screenfuls, and grepping it is not trivial. I've worked around this one by creating a tool that writes grep-able sub-indexes to disk in a more concise format, the tool's available here: http://www.maxlor.com/freebsd-scripts.shtml I think that's all I can think of. Although this is a lot of text, please remember that I was just more or less letting my thoughts flow. I like the ports very much, and I meant in no way to criticize or attack anyone or anyone's work in particular. Cheers Benjamin --------------enig86718D3B4871B1D6B96C0D35 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFDWCX8gShs4qbRdeQRArRXAJ9LNyRUsQ//61ME0Y+8oo8qxeCZCwCgg+0r 4fxtXo429fgLI/2D6nh9G/c= =EhW0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig86718D3B4871B1D6B96C0D35-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 21 00:20:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E4DD16A41F for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 00:20:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from mta13.adelphia.net (mta13.adelphia.net [68.168.78.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D376343D5A for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 00:20:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from default.chvlva.adelphia.net ([69.160.76.67]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051021002022.YAMD23334.mta13.adelphia.net@default.chvlva.adelphia.net>; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:20:22 -0400 Received: by default.chvlva.adelphia.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3778BB59E; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:20:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:20:31 -0400 From: Parv To: Benjamin Lutz Message-ID: <20051021002031.GA12167@holestein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Benjamin Lutz , nocturnal , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <4357D830.7060506@swehack.se> <435825F8.4020305@datacomm.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <435825F8.4020305@datacomm.ch> Cc: nocturnal , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flaws in the ports system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 00:20:52 -0000 in message <435825F8.4020305@datacomm.ch>, wrote Benjamin Lutz thusly... > > - Searching. Personally, I strongly dislike make search because its > way too verbose. Search results easily fill several screenfuls, > and grepping it is not trivial. I've worked around this one by > creating a tool that writes grep-able sub-indexes to disk in a > more concise format, the tool's available here: > http://www.maxlor.com/freebsd-scripts.shtml It seems anybody who does not like "make search" and is able to generate an alternative, does. I did. And so did[0] Matthew Seaman by having sysutils/p5-FreeBSD-Portindex in the ports system. From the port's description file ... cache-init, cache-update, find-updated and portindex are a set of perl scripts built around the common core of the FreeBSD::Portindex modules. Their use is to generate and maintain the ports INDEX or INDEX-5 files speedily and efficiently. Ultimately they work in a very similar way to the standard make index command, except that the FreeBSD::Portindex tools keep a cache of the make describe output from each port, and can update that cached data incrementally as the ports tree itself is updated. WWW: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/portindex/ [0] I am not speaking on behalf of Matthew S, but making one particular point. - Parv -- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 21 00:30:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14EED16A41F for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 00:30:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from benlutz@datacomm.ch) Received: from maxlor.mine.nu (c-213-160-32-54.customer.ggaweb.ch [213.160.32.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8569343D5A for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 00:30:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from benlutz@datacomm.ch) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by maxlor.mine.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A49D2E03B; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 02:30:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maxlor.mine.nu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (atlantis.intranet [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17120-09; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 02:30:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.0.0.17] (mini.intranet [10.0.0.17]) by maxlor.mine.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7F622E038; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 02:30:12 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <43583699.9050308@datacomm.ch> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 02:30:17 +0200 From: Benjamin Lutz User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Macintosh/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Parv References: <4357D830.7060506@swehack.se> <435825F8.4020305@datacomm.ch> <20051021002031.GA12167@holestein.holy.cow> In-Reply-To: <20051021002031.GA12167@holestein.holy.cow> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig2F510A1A6C86EE7532DFD73F" X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at atlantis.intranet Cc: nocturnal , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flaws in the ports system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 00:30:26 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig2F510A1A6C86EE7532DFD73F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Parv wrote: > It seems anybody who does not like "make search" and is able to > generate an alternative, does. I did. And so did[0] Matthew Seaman > by having sysutils/p5-FreeBSD-Portindex in the ports system. Heh, seems so. But then it's very easy to do so with the INDEX file already existing and being easily parseable, and writing such a tool is a fun (and rewarding) programming exercise. I guess what's missing is an all-powerful search tool. I have some ideas, maybe around christmas I find some time to write something. Cheers Benjamin --------------enig2F510A1A6C86EE7532DFD73F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFDWDadgShs4qbRdeQRAuCEAKCMpvP1qLaXSZE9k2rTXM2DHkQbEgCfbHaH nVQRCL8rH6r5XX3Jofe5z4Y= =UpHd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig2F510A1A6C86EE7532DFD73F-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 21 09:04:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FCED16A41F for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:04:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deep@symonds.net) Received: from symonds.net (ca1.symonds.net [66.92.42.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4372D43D46 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:04:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deep@symonds.net) Received: from deep by symonds.net with local (Exim 4.44 #1 (Debian)) id 1ESsoi-0004Qm-Vm; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 02:04:01 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 02:04:00 -0700 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051021090400.GA16978@symonds.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: N Deepak Subject: port request: Endeavour Mark II X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:04:02 -0000 Hi, I see that endeavour has been ported (in x11-fm), but work on that software has stopped. Instead, Endeavour Mark II is active and, by screenshots, looks tempting. I don't see its port ... is there any? WWW: http://wolfpack.twu.net/Endeavour2/ Thanks, Deepak From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 21 09:05:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B94C16A420 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:05:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@builder.freebsd.org) Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.freebsd.org [216.136.204.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 438D043D48 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:05:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@builder.freebsd.org) Received: from builder.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by builder.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9L95H9O016422 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:05:17 GMT (envelope-from kris@builder.freebsd.org) Received: (from kris@localhost) by builder.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9L95H5N016421 for ports@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:05:17 GMT (envelope-from kris) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:05:17 GMT From: Kris Kennaway Message-Id: <200510210905.j9L95H5N016421@builder.freebsd.org> To: ports@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: INDEX build failed for 4.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:05:18 -0000 INDEX build failed with errors: Generating INDEX - please wait.. Done. Warning: Duplicate INDEX entry: joe-2.8_5 Committers on the hook: clsung edwin jylefort pav sem vsevolod Most recent CVS update was: U chinese/joe/Makefile U devel/gamin/Makefile U devel/gamin/files/patch-server_gam_channel.c U devel/py-gamin/Makefile U editors/Makefile U editors/joe2/Makefile U mail/postfinger/Makefile U mail/postfinger/distinfo U net/cacti/Makefile U net/cacti/distinfo U net/mcabber/Makefile U net/mcabber/files/patch-src_hbuf.c U www/snownews/Makefile U www/snownews/pkg-plist U www/snownews/files/extra-patch-Makefile U x11-toolkits/Makefile U x11-toolkits/gtkextra2/Makefile U x11-toolkits/gtkextra2/distinfo U x11-toolkits/gtkextra2/pkg-descr U x11-toolkits/gtkextra2/pkg-plist From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 21 09:20:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B41E16A41F; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:20:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@eddie.nitro.dk) Received: from eddie.nitro.dk (cpe.atm2-0-71337.0x535ccf26.taanxx2.customer.tele.dk [83.92.207.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1324743D46; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:20:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@eddie.nitro.dk) Received: by eddie.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7E254119C50; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:20:10 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:20:10 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Joel Hatton Message-ID: <20051021092009.GB45504@eddie.nitro.dk> References: <20051020143032.GA37657@eddie.nitro.dk> <200510202317.j9KNHBtU055137@app.auscert.org.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200510202317.j9KNHBtU055137@app.auscert.org.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, sf@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-security@auscert.org.au, "Frank J. Laszlo" Subject: Re: wget/curl vul X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:20:12 -0000 --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2005.10.21 09:17:11 +1000, Joel Hatton wrote: > Thanks Simon (and Frank), >=20 > > On 2005.10.20 14:09:29 +1000, Joel Hatton wrote: > >=20 > > > Are plans afoot to upgrade wget to 1.10.2 soon? > >=20 > > The wget port was updated about an hour ago. >=20 > I'm updating now :) I really appreciate your efforts - wget is quite an > important application for us. Actually I only said "Yes, please" when Marcus Alves Grando (mnag@) asked if he could commit the update now, so the thanks should go to mnag@ and Phil Oleson (who made that patch to fix the issue) :-). --=20 Simon L. Nielsen --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDWLLJh9pcDSc1mlERAoQtAJ0QbaKb3Jl4PXfjjgKlJxUfV/IA+gCgnEBZ yUN/qG+R8F+DMrxn+5fj6Dk= =Z6g/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 21 10:00:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C10D16A41F for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:00:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fenner@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B76E343D46 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:00:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fenner@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (fenner@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9LA0R3k085861 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:00:27 GMT (envelope-from fenner@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from fenner@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9LA0RjN085812 for ports@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:00:27 GMT (envelope-from fenner) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:00:27 GMT From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <200510211000.j9LA0RjN085812@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ports@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Unfetchable distfiles reminder X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:00:28 -0000 Dear porters, This is just a reminder to please periodically check the list of unfetchable distfiles at http://people.freebsd.org/~fenner/portsurvey/ . In particular, the list of ports with no MAINTAINER with distfile problems, which currently has $portsbad bad ports, is http://people.freebsd.org/~fenner/portsurvey/ports@freebsd.org.html Since no one is responsible for these ports, the problem won't get fixed unless someone on this list takes the initiative. In addition, the list of all ports with any unfetchable distfile is http://people.freebsd.org/~fenner/portsurvey/bad.html if you don't mind coordinating your fixes with the port MAINTAINER. Thanks for your help! Bill "distfiles" Fenner From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 21 10:54:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E49316A41F for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:54:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tarc@tarc.po.cs.msu.su) Received: from tarc.po.cs.msu.su (tarc.po.cs.msu.su [158.250.16.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 866B643D48 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:54:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tarc@tarc.po.cs.msu.su) Received: from tarc.po.cs.msu.su (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tarc.po.cs.msu.su (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9LAslPL071439 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:54:47 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from tarc@tarc.po.cs.msu.su) Received: (from tarc@localhost) by tarc.po.cs.msu.su (8.13.4/8.13.3/Submit) id j9LAskAb071438 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:54:46 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from tarc) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:54:46 +0400 From: Tarc To: freebsd-ports Message-ID: <20051021105446.GH3344@tarc.po.cs.msu.su> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i Subject: make search improving X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:54:52 -0000 --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline There is patch for add ``xdisplay'' variable, usage: same as ``display variable'' -- Best regards, Arseny Nasokin --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="bsd.port.subdir.mk.patch" --- bsd.port.subdir.mk.orig Fri Oct 21 14:03:32 2005 +++ bsd.port.subdir.mk Fri Oct 21 14:02:32 2005 @@ -364,6 +364,7 @@ -v keylim="$${keylim:-${PORTSEARCH_KEYLIM}}" \ -v xkeylim="$${xkeylim:-${PORTSEARCH_XKEYLIM}}" \ -v display="$${display:-${PORTSEARCH_DISPLAY_FIELDS}}" \ + -v xdisplay="$$xdisplay" \ 'BEGIN { \ if (substr(there, 1, length(top)) == top) \ there = "${PORTSDIR}" substr(there, 1 + length(top)); \ @@ -401,9 +402,15 @@ fields["bdeps"] = 8; names[8] = "B-deps"; \ fields["rdeps"] = 9; names[9] = "R-deps"; \ fields["www"] = 10; names[10] = "WWW"; \ + \ split(display, d, /,[ \t]*/); \ for (i in d) { \ disp[fields[d[i]]] = 1; \ + } \ + \ + split(xdisplay, xd, /,[ \t]*/); \ + for (i in xd) { \ + delete disp[fields[xd[i]]]; \ } \ } \ { \ --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 20 16:13:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2643F16A41F; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:13:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com (lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com [68.99.120.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 252E343D64; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:13:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dns1 ([64.58.171.82]) by lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051020161331.KEMB25114.lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com@dns1>; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:13:31 -0400 From: Vizion To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:08:15 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200510150015.j9F0ExKr085847@sakura.ninth-nine.com> <1B8112AF-8C0E-4BA0-8D1C-DA6AD529F327@softweyr.com> <43539EB0.5010005@iang.org> In-Reply-To: <43539EB0.5010005@iang.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510200908.24006.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:45:17 +0000 Cc: Wes Peters , wes@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-eclipse@FreeBSD.org, mitsuru@riken.jp, tux@pinguru.net, Norikatsu Shigemura , rtdean@cytherianage.net, sugimura@jp.FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, Mark Linimon , Panagiotis Astithas , Ian G Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:13:25 -0000 On Monday 17 October 2005 05:53, the author Ian G contributed to the dialogue on- Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports: >(To all) > >Wes Peters wrote: >> That's exactly the point I was (and am) trying to argue against. I >> have to resort to 'make search' to find emacs tools these days because >> they've been thrown all over the ports system by well-meaning but >> misguided contributors, and I'd hate to see that happen to eclipse >> tools too. > >As the directory structure imposes Big->Small naming >on the ports, and this is always going to be inadequate. >Many ports will have multiple namings and multiple >ways of indexing that make lots of sense. The directory >structure gives one indexing and one name only though. > >The problem is not where Eclipse or a plugin is located, >rather, it is that the directory structure cannot support >anything more complex than the simplest naming schemes. So what could be more simple than /usr/ports/eclipse? > >Moving Eclipse does not change this, only improving >the search tools can help here. So what is needed >is something that deals with: > > searchports eclipse plugin python > >or somesuch. > >iang > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-java@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-java >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-java-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- 40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Taurus. Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing bound for Europe via Panama Canal after completing engineroom refit. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 21 12:55:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F9E516A420 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:55:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@builder.freebsd.org) Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.freebsd.org [216.136.204.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61DAE43D4C for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:55:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@builder.freebsd.org) Received: from builder.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by builder.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9LCt1tR082696 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:55:01 GMT (envelope-from kris@builder.freebsd.org) Received: (from kris@localhost) by builder.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9LCt1Wr082694 for ports@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:55:01 GMT (envelope-from kris) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:55:01 GMT From: Kris Kennaway Message-Id: <200510211255.j9LCt1Wr082694@builder.freebsd.org> To: ports@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: INDEX now builds successfully on 4.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:55:07 -0000 From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 21 12:56:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB01E16A41F for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:56:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zhushazang@yahoo.com.br) Received: from smtp206.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp206.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [216.136.129.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0049E43D5C for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:56:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zhushazang@yahoo.com.br) Received: (qmail 47464 invoked from network); 21 Oct 2005 12:23:02 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com.br; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:X-Accept-Language:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=AXHHzxWxf/e5smcYtslkZIMC3FYGZU3qCu5cyN+KWRfz9l2o3LdjLjAMPEMfR+leYgeStbnvCmbt9StKXm0/UMF/TPGnaKM663jpCDIZJoMl8MG1EfzC2uZMmv/XZ0Spu9anhFcxvi6W+Yqnqpewsl12Y99vNyPAHP0ytHWaWUg= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.26.72.207?) (zhushazang@201.23.88.2 with plain) by smtp206.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Oct 2005 12:22:58 -0000 Message-ID: <4358DD80.2040405@yahoo.com.br> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:22:24 -0200 From: Zhu Sha Zang User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051011) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: firefox and amd64 again X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:56:49 -0000 Hey dudes, i have this problem when using firefox with a user: bash2-2.05b$ firefox & [1] 38952 bash2-2.05b$ (firefox-bin:38967): Gdk-WARNING **: gdk_property_get(): length value has wrapped in calculation (did you pass G_MAXLONG?) *** loading the extensions datasource have instaled some extension (gmail notifier, forecast and adblocks). Maybe this extensions block my firefox, because, in root mode, firefox open. But, if a do this cd /usr/ports/www/firefox make deinstall make install clean (again) first time, firefox open, but never more if i close him. any idea!? -- Zhu Sha Zang Brasil - Ribeirão Preto - SP _______________________________________________________ Promoção Yahoo! Acesso Grátis: a cada hora navegada você acumula cupons e concorre a mais de 500 prêmios! Participe! http://yahoo.fbiz.com.br/ From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 21 13:14:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 993A616A41F for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:14:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matthew@thebunker.net) Received: from male.aldigital.co.uk (male.thebunker.net [213.129.64.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F7E043D49 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:14:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matthew@thebunker.net) Received: from lack-of-gravitas.thebunker.net (gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by male.aldigital.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B38397744; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:14:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from lack-of-gravitas.thebunker.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lack-of-gravitas.thebunker.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9LDEvro006428; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:14:57 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@lack-of-gravitas.thebunker.net) Received: (from matthew@localhost) by lack-of-gravitas.thebunker.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j9LDEuXe006427; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:14:56 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:14:56 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Benjamin Lutz , nocturnal , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051021131456.GB5653@lack-of-gravitas.thebunker.net> Mail-Followup-To: Benjamin Lutz , nocturnal , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <4357D830.7060506@swehack.se> <435825F8.4020305@datacomm.ch> <20051021002031.GA12167@holestein.holy.cow> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yEPQxsgoJgBvi8ip" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051021002031.GA12167@holestein.holy.cow> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: Subject: Re: Flaws in the ports system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:14:59 -0000 --yEPQxsgoJgBvi8ip Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 08:20:31PM -0400, Parv wrote: > in message <435825F8.4020305@datacomm.ch>, > wrote Benjamin Lutz thusly... > > > > - Searching. Personally, I strongly dislike make search because its > > way too verbose. Search results easily fill several screenfuls, > > and grepping it is not trivial. I've worked around this one by > > creating a tool that writes grep-able sub-indexes to disk in a > > more concise format, the tool's available here: > > http://www.maxlor.com/freebsd-scripts.shtml >=20 > It seems anybody who does not like "make search" and is able to > generate an alternative, does. I did. And so did[0] Matthew Seaman > by having sysutils/p5-FreeBSD-Portindex in the ports system. From the > port's description file ... >=20 > cache-init, cache-update, find-updated and portindex are a set of > perl scripts built around the common core of the FreeBSD::Portindex > modules. Their use is to generate and maintain the ports INDEX or > INDEX-5 files speedily and efficiently. Ultimately they work in a > very similar way to the standard make index command, except that the > FreeBSD::Portindex tools keep a cache of the make describe output > from each port, and can update that cached data incrementally as the > ports tree itself is updated. >=20 > WWW: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/portindex/ >=20 >=20 > [0] I am not speaking on behalf of Matthew S, but making one > particular point. Thank you very much for the vote of confidence. Mind you, p5-FreeBSD-Portindex doesn't do much to solve the OPs complaints about 'make search', as it is an alternative to 'make index'. The resulting INDEX{,-5,-6} file (which is what 'make search' searches) should be pretty much identical whether you run cache-update and portindex or you use the standard 'make index'. Hmmm.. looks like I need to update that page a bit, seeing as various version numbers on there have been superceeded now. One of these days I might even get round to the semi-mythical Version 2.0. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. Flat 3 7 Priory Courtyard PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW, UK --yEPQxsgoJgBvi8ip Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iQCVAwUBQ1jp0Jr7OpndfbmCAQIfVQQAn28Zd5eY4T3HXxWJlRFSi4w+socchdwK 7VOAcs3eUd2bFz2nvW0OI0gpMC/UvOwAecDAzf/hefvcH3pSGyN+MFOebQIdaCvb /YLvf7hjVIMF4abhUItzZIikp6JU+ZSE3+sNQn/n6xEUU1Ez0kc3SOupc0S0ck/u TcFqAeNCwMI= =Rtzk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yEPQxsgoJgBvi8ip-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 21 14:52:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E03A16A423 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:52:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from novel@mxout.hispeed.ch) Received: from mxout.hispeed.ch (mxout.hispeed.ch [62.2.95.247]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB3D43D64 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:52:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from novel@mxout.hispeed.ch) Received: from localhost ([195.161.251.45]) (authenticated bits=0) by mxout.hispeed.ch (8.12.6/8.12.6/tornado-1.0) with ESMTP id j9LEqCd3032239; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 16:52:14 +0200 Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:55:31 +0400 From: Roman Bogorodskiy To: Vladimir Kushnir Message-ID: <20051021145531.GA679@lame.novel.ru> References: <20051017160446.GA16644@lame.novel.ru> <20051018003336.V1230@kushnir1.kiev.ua> <20051018035955.GA650@lame.novel.ru> <20051019002436.T73530@kushnir1.kiev.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051019002436.T73530@kushnir1.kiev.ua> X-PGP: http://people.freebsd.org/~novel/novel.key.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.87, clamav-milter version 0.87 on smtp-07.tornado.cablecom.ch X-Virus-Status: Clean X-DCC-spamcheck-02.tornado.cablecom.ch-Metrics: smtp-07.tornado.cablecom.ch 32701; Body=4 Fuz1=4 Fuz2=4 Cc: ports@freebsd.org, "Andrew P." , Bill Schoolcraft Subject: Re: xmms-wma on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:52:26 -0000 --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Vladimir wrote: > CFLAGS itself is perfectly all right: > make -v CFLAGS > -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=3Dathlon64 -fpic -DPIC >=20 > It's just that this doesn't propagate to ffmpeg-strip-wma's Makefile. If = I=20 > add a line to post-extract target (plus your patch, of course) > post-extract: > @${REINPLACE_CMD} -e 's|gcc|${CC}|g' ${WRKSRC}/Makefile.inc > + @${REINPLACE_CMD} -e 's|CFLAGS :=3D|CFLAGS :=3D ${CFLAGS}|g'=20 > ${WRKSRC}/Makefile.inc > @${REINPLACE_CMD} -e 's|gcc|${CC}|g'=20 > ${WRKSRC}/ffmpeg-strip-wma/config.mak >=20 > then everything builds. I just committed fixes for bmp-wma and xmms-wma. I hope that works on amd64 now. Thanks a lot for your help. Roman Bogorodskiy --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iQCVAwUBQ1kBY4B0WzgdqspGAQKRcAP/crOo7nZG70k2JZX+gDGFCG2QH4kGNXZd 55B+/tp2XGJ36b0j+F6jwWonhRePr3ApiImJzi2Obc6HsHRIUDjGGzPgLxzPvyx5 1jqC/FPHXzuiR16t44up/KYQjxdeDqkHkHitBN6OAS/7ba6JMBFsBwyUnmLruE2w 0x/5iVxQGbU= =5aub -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 21 16:13:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25FD216A41F; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 16:13:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 320D643D46; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 16:13:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9LGDpGD059227; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:13:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost.blackend.org [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9LGDoFC018504; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:13:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j9LGDo2G018503; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:13:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:13:50 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: amesbury@umn.edu Message-ID: <20051021161350.GC597@gothic.blackend.org> References: <20051021155256.GA3726@nemesis.indefi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="CdrF4e02JqNVZeln" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051021155256.GA3726@nemesis.indefi.net> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: ports@freebsd.org, doceng@freebsd.org Subject: Re: textproc/docproj broken; failed dependency X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 16:13:54 -0000 --CdrF4e02JqNVZeln Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 10:52:56AM -0500, Alan Amesbury wrote: > Looks like Canon's change of printer drivers is affecting > textproc/docproj, even when I do NOT want to install PostScript and PDF > support: > [...] > =3D=3D=3D> docproj-1.13 depends on executable: gs - not found > =3D=3D=3D> Verifying install for gs in /usr/ports/print/ghostscript-gn= u-nox11 > Type "make A4=3Dyes" if you want -DA4 for compilation. > =3D> canon-lips4-1.0.0-651.tgz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfi= les/ghostscript. > =3D> Attempting to fetch from ftp://paulaner.oitsec.umn.edu/distfiles/gho= stscript/. > fetch: ftp://paulaner.oitsec.umn.edu/distfiles/ghostscript/canon-lips4-1.= 0.0-651.tgz: Not Found > =3D> Attempting to fetch from ftp://download.canon-sales.co.jp/pub/driver= /lasershot/linux/. > fetch: ftp://download.canon-sales.co.jp/pub/driver/lasershot/linux/canon-= lips4-1.0.0-651.tgz: Not Found > =3D> Attempting to fetch from ftp://paulaner.oitsec.umn.edu/distfiles/gho= stscript/. > fetch: ftp://paulaner.oitsec.umn.edu/distfiles/ghostscript/canon-lips4-1.= 0.0-651.tgz: Not Found > =3D> Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this > =3D> port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/ghostscript and try again. > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Stop in /usr/ports/print/ghostscript-gnu-nox11. > *** Error code 1 >=20 [...] As you can see it's a print/ghostscript-gnu-nox11 issue not a textproc/docproj one. The port fetching operation should try to get the file from ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/ as final try. I get: =3D> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/ghostscript/. canon-lips4-1.0.0-651.tgz 100% of 37 kB 60 kBps So retry to fetch the distfiles. Ports people will take care of this master sites issue soon. Marc --CdrF4e02JqNVZeln Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDWRO9zQ9RwE+OdOgRAlRHAKDLEyYqKE9Q8jAbbl81keLZE3D14gCePlcN lp++LX0mWhZLJHbITJSxKH0= =/jUk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --CdrF4e02JqNVZeln-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 21 17:09:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B19816A41F for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 17:09:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-in-04.arcor-online.net (mail-in-04.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24E443D45 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 17:09:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-in-08-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-08-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.20]) by mail-in-04.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED0AD87435; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:09:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail-in-07.arcor-online.net (mail-in-07.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.47]) by mail-in-08-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8935281D5; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:09:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lofi.dyndns.org (dslb-084-061-133-204.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.133.204]) by mail-in-07.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C8AF7CBCA; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:09:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kiste.my.domain (root@kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.4]) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9LH9La2028583 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:09:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from kiste.my.domain (lofi@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kiste.my.domain (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9LH9K6i030950; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:09:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by kiste.my.domain (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id j9LH9HcK030946; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:09:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kiste.my.domain: lofi set sender to lofi@freebsd.org using -f From: Michael Nottebrock To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:09:14 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <20051021105446.GH3344@tarc.po.cs.msu.su> In-Reply-To: <20051021105446.GH3344@tarc.po.cs.msu.su> X-Face: =Ym$`&q\+S2X$4`X%x%6"L4>Y,$]<":'L%c9"#7#`2tb&E&wsN31on!N\)3BD[g<=?utf-8?q?=2EjnfV=5B=0A=093=23?=>XchLK,o; >bD>c:]^; :>0>vyZ.X[,63GW`&M>}nYnr]-Fp``,[[@lJ!QL|sfW!s)=?utf-8?q?A2!*=0A=09vNkB/=7CL-?=>&QdSbQg X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Cc: Tarc Subject: Re: make search improving X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 17:09:38 -0000 --nextPart1296781.0e8CS70rEB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Friday, 21. October 2005 12:54, Tarc wrote: > There is patch for add ``xdisplay'' variable, > usage: same as ``display variable'' Please submit this as a PR, otherwise it will get lost. =2D-=20 ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org --nextPart1296781.0e8CS70rEB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDWSC9Xhc68WspdLARAoiPAJwLLnYQTeGp+qkKRVduSttmMKhQ3wCffHPt vgXeNlEfNjFbylSOY6VZ10Y= =0Wyj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1296781.0e8CS70rEB-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 21 18:13:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 322F616A41F; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:13:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from amesbury@UMN.EDU) Received: from mtaout-m.tc.umn.edu (mtaout-m.tc.umn.edu [160.94.23.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC6C143D46; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:13:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from amesbury@UMN.EDU) Received: from [160.94.247.212] (paulaner.oitsec.umn.edu [160.94.247.212]) by mtaout-m.tc.umn.edu with ESMTP; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:13:41 -0500 (CDT) X-Umn-Remote-Mta: [N] paulaner.oitsec.umn.edu [160.94.247.212] #+LO+TS+AU+HN Message-ID: <43592FD5.1030102@umn.edu> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:13:41 -0500 From: Alan Amesbury User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050909) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marc Fonvieille References: <20051021155256.GA3726@nemesis.indefi.net> <20051021161350.GC597@gothic.blackend.org> In-Reply-To: <20051021161350.GC597@gothic.blackend.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@freebsd.org, doceng@freebsd.org Subject: Re: textproc/docproj broken; failed dependency X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:13:44 -0000 Marc Fonvieille wrote: >As you can see it's a print/ghostscript-gnu-nox11 issue not a >textproc/docproj one. The port fetching operation should try to get >the file from ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/ as final try. > >I get: > >=> Attempting to fetch from >ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/ghostscript/. >canon-lips4-1.0.0-651.tgz 100% of 37 kB 60 kBps > >So retry to fetch the distfiles. > > *DOH!* I looked in .../ports/distfiles/ for the file in question, not in .../ports/distfiles/ghostscript/ when I checked ftp.freebsd.org. Sorry for being a bonehead on that. >Ports people will take care of this master sites issue soon. > > Cool. Thanks! -- Alan Amesbury University of Minnesota From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 21 18:42:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6BE16A420 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:42:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: from gwyn.kn-bremen.de (gwyn.kn-bremen.de [212.63.36.242]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D86D43D49 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:42:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: from gwyn.kn-bremen.de (gwyn [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.kn-bremen.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id j9LIglXo003825; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 20:42:47 +0200 Received: from saturn.kn-bremen.de (uucp@localhost) by gwyn.kn-bremen.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with UUCP id j9LIgl0X003823; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 20:42:47 +0200 Received: from saturn.kn-bremen.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9LIfCLF009125; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 20:41:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: (from nox@localhost) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j9LIfB41009124; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 20:41:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nox) From: Juergen Lock Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 20:41:11 +0200 To: Robert Millan Message-ID: <20051021184111.GA8951@saturn.kn-bremen.de> Mail-Followup-To: Robert Millan , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <20051018140137.GA16159@aragorn> <20051018200544.GA26528@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <200510192246.j9JMkUIj013329@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <20051020104328.GA1150@aragorn> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051020104328.GA1150@aragorn> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gzip-like CLI wrapper for p7zip X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:42:54 -0000 On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 12:43:28PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 12:46:30AM +0200, Juergen Lock wrote: > >[...] > > Well, i dont know if the 7z maintainers are interested in supporting > > streaming themselves, it could well happen they bump their version > > for other reasons, which means p7zip's version numbering would have > > to be orthogonal to theirs... > > AFAIK, p7zip attempts to track 7zip sources closely and merge stuff. But even > if it forked, it'd be very unlikely (and counter-productive) to also fork the > file format specs. I don't think 7zip maintainers have a problem integrating > streaming support if it doesn't break anything (but if you're concerned about > that, never hurts to ask..) > > Please let me know if you add that wrapper script. Well, because a `proper' p7zip executable could check the file type and thus still support existing files in the old non-stream-aware compressed format (I somehow overlooked this simple fact :) we can leave this for others to decide and just add the preliminary script. So, yes, I have just submitted the patch I posted here. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 21 19:23:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9137216A41F for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:23:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spamme@ll.net) Received: from mercury.ll.net (mercury.ll.net [209.131.224.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C3B43D46 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:23:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spamme@ll.net) Received: from ll.net (unverified [127.0.0.1]) by mercury.ll.net (Vircom SMTPRS 3.2.315.0) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:22:52 -0500 Message-ID: X-EM-APIVersion: 2, 0, 1, 0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) From: "" To: ports@FreeBSD.org Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:22:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: games/linux-steam X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:23:02 -0000 Looks like this port needs linux dependency added as far as I can tell=2E Tried to install on 5=2E4 p8 and got: ----------------------------------- bob# cd linux-steam/ bob# make install You can use the INSTALLDIR option to change the install dir =3D=3D=3D> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found =3D> steam-1=2E0=2Etar=2Egz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/=2E= =3D> Attempting to fetch from http://www=2Ecoreblack=2Ecom/files/=2E steam-1=2E0=2Etar=2Egz 100% of 2525 kB 380 kBps= =3D=3D=3D> Extracting for linux-steam-1=2E0 =3D> Checksum OK for steam-1=2E0=2Etar=2Egz=2E =3D=3D=3D> Patching for linux-steam-1=2E0 =3D=3D=3D> Configuring for linux-steam-1=2E0 =3D=3D=3D> Building for linux-steam-1=2E0 ELF binary type "0" not known=2E =2E/hldsupdatetool=2Ebin: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/games/linux-steam=2E ------------------------------------------ Installed linux-base and all went well=2E =20 From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 21 19:34:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E2C16A422 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:34:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fenner@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86C4043D4C for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:33:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fenner@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9LJXXqH079609 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:33:33 GMT (envelope-from fenner@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from fenner@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9LJXXgQ079608 for ports@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:33:33 GMT (envelope-from fenner) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:33:33 GMT From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <200510211933.j9LJXXgQ079608@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ports@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Unfetchable distfiles reminder X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:34:13 -0000 Dear porters, This is just a reminder to please periodically check the list of unfetchable distfiles at http://people.freebsd.org/~fenner/portsurvey/ . In particular, the list of ports with no MAINTAINER with distfile problems, which currently has 215 bad ports, is http://people.freebsd.org/~fenner/portsurvey/ports@freebsd.org.html Since no one is responsible for these ports, the problem won't get fixed unless someone on this list takes the initiative. In addition, the list of all ports with any unfetchable distfile is http://people.freebsd.org/~fenner/portsurvey/bad.html if you don't mind coordinating your fixes with the port MAINTAINER. Thanks for your help! Bill "distfiles" Fenner From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 21 19:34:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FB2C16A41F for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:34:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from mta10.adelphia.net (mta10.adelphia.net [68.168.78.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DC3643DDA for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:33:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from default.chvlva.adelphia.net ([69.160.76.67]) by mta10.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051021193330.LHXQ16334.mta10.adelphia.net@default.chvlva.adelphia.net>; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:33:30 -0400 Received: by default.chvlva.adelphia.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AF3CEB59E; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:33:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:33:39 -0400 From: Parv To: Benjamin Lutz Message-ID: <20051021193339.GA14427@holestein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Benjamin Lutz , nocturnal , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <4357D830.7060506@swehack.se> <435825F8.4020305@datacomm.ch> <20051021002031.GA12167@holestein.holy.cow> <43583699.9050308@datacomm.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43583699.9050308@datacomm.ch> Cc: nocturnal , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flaws in the ports system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:34:20 -0000 in message <43583699.9050308@datacomm.ch>, wrote Benjamin Lutz thusly... > > Parv wrote: > > It seems anybody who does not like "make search" and is able to > > generate an alternative, does. I did. And so did[0] Matthew > > Seaman by having sysutils/p5-FreeBSD-Portindex in the ports > > system. > > Heh, seems so. But then it's very easy to do so with the INDEX > file already existing and being easily parseable, and writing such > a tool is a fun (and rewarding) programming exercise. Indeed. > I guess what's missing is an all-powerful search tool. I have some > ideas, maybe around christmas I find some time to write something. Can you give us a glimpse of what else is it that you think is missing for Dec 25 is more than 2 months away? - Parv -- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 21 19:47:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.Org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 566C516A41F for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:47:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cybermartyr@MaskeProductions.com) Received: from MaskeProductions.com (bonescraper.com [204.9.117.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0939943D49 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:47:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cybermartyr@MaskeProductions.com) Received: from mail.maskeproductions.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by MaskeProductions.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CC384AC73 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eye5.tribune.com ([163.192.21.45]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user cybermartyr) by mail.maskeproductions.com with HTTP; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:47:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <30073.163.192.21.45.1129924035.squirrel@mail.maskeproductions.com> In-Reply-To: <200510211932.j9LJWvgM079280@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <200510211932.j9LJWvgM079280@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:47:15 -0500 (CDT) From: "Douglas A. Maske" To: ports@FreeBSD.Org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD ports: 1 unfetchable distfile: www/mod_auth_mysql41_ap2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: cybermartyr@MaskeProductions.com List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:47:17 -0000 Odd... Works fine for me... [cybermartyr@Cyberwaste.MaskeProductions.com:/home/cybermartyr]: ncftp ftp.maske.org NcFTP 3.1.9 (Mar 24, 2005) by Mike Gleason (http://www.NcFTP.com/contact/). Connecting to ftp.maske.org... Cyberwaste.MaskeProductions.com FTP server (Version wu-2.6.2(1) Sun Jun 26 16:46:49 PDT 2005) ready. Logging in... Guest login ok, access restrictions apply. Logged in to ftp.maske.org. ncftp / > cd pub/FreeBSD/distfiles ncftp /pub/FreeBSD/distfiles > get mod_auth_mysql41_ap2_1.00.tar.gz mod_auth_mysql41_ap2_1.00.tar.gz: 9.39 kB 102.87 kB/s ncftp /pub/FreeBSD/distfiles > Thanks, Doug > Dear maske@maske.org, > > You are listed as the FreeBSD port maintainer for 1 port > whose distfiles are not fetchable from their MASTER_SITES. Could > you please visit > > http://people.freebsd.org/~fenner/portsurvey/maske@maske.org.html > > and correct the problems listed there? The individual port with > a problem is www/mod_auth_mysql41_ap2. > > If you have already corrected the problems and submitted a > PR, please accept my thanks and apologies for the delay in getting > the fixes into the tree. This reminder is created automatically > and does not (yet) have a way to know if a PR fixing the problem > has been submitted. Please do *NOT* send your response to me > directly; I do not necessarily have time to commit your fix; please > instead submit a PR via 'send-pr' so it doesn't get lost. > > Problems are usually of two types: > 1. The software package has been upgraded and the version in the > port has been removed. The best solution to this problem is to > upgrade the port to the most current version of the software package. > If you are a FreeBSD committer, then you can just upgrade the port > directly. If not, you should create the updated port on your own machine, > test it (and maybe even run "portlint" on it), and then use "send-pr" > to submit a "diff -uNr old-port updated-port". If you added or deleted > any files, please make an explicit note of it. > > 2. The mirror site being used no longer contains the software package > in question, or no longer exists. Solutions include: > a) If there are other mirror sites, just remove the bad site > from the list. (Make sure that what appears to be a bad site > isn't actually a problem of type 1, upgrade) > b) If the README or other support files in the software > documentation mention where to get the software package, > use one of those sites. > c) Use a search engine to find another place to get the original > DISTFILES. Make sure that you don't pick a FreeBSD distfiles > mirror -- if you can't find any other places where the file > exists, it can be a LOCAL_PORT or you can simply comment out > the MASTER_SITES= line, with a comment explaining why. > Once you have a solution, use "send-pr" to submit a "diff -u" of the > Makefile. > > Note that this isn't an urgent issue, as people who try to > build the port now will just fall back to the FreeBSD distfiles mirror. > Please just put it on your list to do and get to it when you have time. > These messages will continue to arrive twice a month until the fix is > committed, as a reminder. > > Thanks, > Bill "distfiles" Fenner. > Thanks, Douglas A. Maske Phone: (708)544-7501 Companies: President/Lead Programming Architect Maske Productions Webmaster/Forum Administrator Fear Factory Email: Doug@MaskeProductions.com Doug@FearFactory.com CyberMartyr@FearFactoryFans.com Websites: http://www.Maske.org http://www.FearFactory.com/forums http://www.FearFactoryForums.com http://www.FearFactoryFans.com From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 21 20:29:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4B516A41F for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 20:29:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from benlutz@datacomm.ch) Received: from maxlor.mine.nu (c-213-160-32-54.customer.ggaweb.ch [213.160.32.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0727843D46 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 20:29:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from benlutz@datacomm.ch) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by maxlor.mine.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282882E038; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:28:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maxlor.mine.nu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (atlantis.intranet [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28004-06; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:28:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.0.0.17] (mini.intranet [10.0.0.17]) by maxlor.mine.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A5B52E03C; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:28:48 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <43594F86.2090300@datacomm.ch> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:28:54 +0200 From: Benjamin Lutz User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Macintosh/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Parv References: <4357D830.7060506@swehack.se> <435825F8.4020305@datacomm.ch> <20051021002031.GA12167@holestein.holy.cow> <43583699.9050308@datacomm.ch> <20051021193339.GA14427@holestein.holy.cow> In-Reply-To: <20051021193339.GA14427@holestein.holy.cow> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig820B2600112A0FEC0DF7FB2C" X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at atlantis.intranet Cc: nocturnal , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flaws in the ports system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 20:29:03 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig820B2600112A0FEC0DF7FB2C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Parv wrote: >>I guess what's missing is an all-powerful search tool. I have some >>ideas, maybe around christmas I find some time to write something. > > Can you give us a glimpse of what else is it that you think is > missing for Dec 25 is more than 2 months away? Sure. I use the ports' meta information for the following information most of the time: - Checking in which directory a port I already know exists is located, or how the dir name is spelt exactly in the case of version number suffixes and the like. - Searching for a port by keyword, ie basically what make search does. - Given a program name, get some information about it (ie, reading pkg-descr. Depending on the information I'd like to retrieve, quite a bit of typing is necessary, particularly in the case of slave ports. Also, the way to get to the information in the examples mentioned above is very different in each case. I'd like to make all the information available in way that allows easy and quick access, that is consistent across different kinds of queries, and maybe I can even make the whole thing somewhat intuitive to use too ;) Cheers Benjamin --------------enig820B2600112A0FEC0DF7FB2C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFDWU+JgShs4qbRdeQRAm92AJ9fQmV1Q3eG42zQPrRqxQ8ImcMVwQCfTldi a9ciKe7qjc5ytK68lD0YUHI= =dP9j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig820B2600112A0FEC0DF7FB2C-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 21 21:29:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDCD016A41F for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 21:29:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m@MHoerich.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0E2B743D53 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 21:29:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m@MHoerich.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 21 Oct 2005 21:29:10 -0000 Received: from p548B6AA2.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO localhost) [84.139.106.162] by mail.gmx.net (mp009) with SMTP; 21 Oct 2005 23:29:10 +0200 X-Authenticated: #5114400 Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 23:29:09 +0200 From: Mario Hoerich To: Mark Linimon Message-ID: <20051021212908.GA1384@Pandora.MHoerich.de> Mail-Followup-To: Mark Linimon , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <20051017212748.GD71766@isis.sigpipe.cz> <790a9fff0510171505i4010cc05yc30f67d459d1a0e4@mail.gmail.com> <20051018010446.GH71766@isis.sigpipe.cz> <20051018011616.GA57969@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051018153752.GB11790@soaustin.net> <20051018160725.GB87664@isis.sigpipe.cz> <20051018162907.GB14192@soaustin.net> <20051019214018.GA5180@isis.sigpipe.cz> <20051020200315.GA25164@soaustin.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051020200315.GA25164@soaustin.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 21:29:14 -0000 # Mark Linimon: > On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 11:40:18PM +0200, Roman Neuhauser wrote: [ Locating ports when you don't know the spelling ] > > Also, another variable, e. g. KEYWORDS, could be used. Personally, I doubt this'd do much good. With generic keywords (like "mp3" or "video") a search yields too many hits rather fast, whereas people are quite likely to outright miss more specific terms. Besides, every port maintainer probably has his/her very own idea how to properly set KEYWORDS, so that i.e. "mp3 player" hits amaroK and juk, but misses xmms. Synchronizing this sure seems like a can of worms to me. [ "show me the ports that have something to do with the Internet" ] > > > > What are you missing from make search cat=net ? (I'm not suggesting > > you don't have valid complaints, I'd like to learn about them.) A man-page. Or at least a proper help. | $ make search | The search target requires a keyword parameter or name parameter, | e.g.: "make search key=somekeyword" | or "make search name=somekeyword" doesn't exactly tell me about cat= or the difference between key= and name=. Other than that: a less non-standard syntax. I'd highly favor portsearch [-c] (-k | ). > Well, there _are_ a few Internet-related ports in net-mgmt, wwww, ... This applies to quite a lot of ports, I think. See xmms, for example. It took me quite a while to realize the 54 xmms-$foo ports in audio didn't include xmms itself. I finally located it via LIB_DEPENDS. > > I don't think I am. I'm pointing out a chicken-and-egg condition > > present in your proposal. > > I don't think there is any such thing. People install portugprade and > cvsup without searching for them. They, and other, tools are well-known. > Many more ports (in fact the majority) are not. So if you create some > kind of port-browser tool like portmanager, people can still install that. I'd favor a set of tools, a library and an ncurses frontend *in base*. The current set * portmanager * port{up,down}grade * portversion * portsnap * portsman * pkg_{delete,remove} * pkg_{add,install} * pkg_info * pkg_{cut,rm}leaves * cvsup (what happened to csup btw?) * make search * make [fetch]index isn't exactly consistent in either naming or behavior and there's probably quite a couple of reinvented wheels inside. The ports collection being one of the most visible features of FreeBSD, I think this is bad. Oh, I'd like my bikeshed blue with dark green stripes, btw. > Now, instead of all this email debate, a few days ago I talked Edwin > Groothius into implementing a test idea about how to break up the > existing category list on http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/ into logical > groups. It's inadequate but a) it's better than the flat space and b) > it's actual code rather than just talk. I will note that there has > been _zero_ feedback on this change, pro or con. The thought is actually quite nice, but the logical groups aren't disjoint on any count. The "ports for end-users" contain plenty of ports for devs (e.g. audio/p5-Filesys-Virtual-DAAP), whereas many actual end-user ports (e.g. Firefox) are elsewhere. So essentially, it doesn't really help (me). If you're serious about improving the browseability, then the only real way _I_ can see is to separate applications from libraries and $lang-ports. Fwiw, I'm aware this implies literally thousands of repocopys, and that I'm most likely not the one doing them or dealing with the fallout. It might still be worth consideration as a long term plan, though. Regards, Mario From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 21 21:53:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36D1016A41F for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 21:53:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E61A743D60 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 21:53:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 8so301102nzo for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:53:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=U95izd/4RsDyIM8OERaEcPChq9EKHMz6kTr4uU68eDiPRe+d8lnX8iOQ+/PsO23eHbH9s4TMFcyoJt85qNkJchf3PaCnpx6BlIysaBSsa7XhAv74l8+hLAPZzfq7+vKS/xlT+1de6R2TiLwj34Q3LNmvAJ0Kp1gS15fdTBBOVLE= Received: by 10.36.60.12 with SMTP id i12mr3242968nza; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:53:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.10? ( [71.102.14.129]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 38sm6442169nzk.2005.10.21.14.53.10; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:53:13 -0700 (PDT) From: "Michael C. Shultz" To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:54:41 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> <20051018160725.GB87664@isis.sigpipe.cz> <20051018162907.GB14192@soaustin.net> In-Reply-To: <20051018162907.GB14192@soaustin.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510211454.41789.ringworm01@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 21:53:15 -0000 On Tuesday 18 October 2005 09:29, Mark Linimon wrote: > On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 06:07:25PM +0200, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > > > That highlights my point that IMHO we need two different > > > functionalities: 'search' and 'browse'. 'make search' is barely > > > adequate for searching. > > > > What are you missing from make search? I'll try and add it if it's > > within reasonable bounds of complexity. > > e.g. searching when you don't know the exact spelling of the name. > > It's the "dictionary problem" -- how do you find the meaning of a word > when you're not sure what the word is? > > > > We have nothing at all for browsing (unless you count reading an entire > > > list of ports in hierarchy as 'browsing', which even an old > > > command-line kind of guy like me thinks is crude). > > > > Can you define 'browsing'? > > "show me the ports that have something to do with the Internet"; "show > me a list of plugins that work with Apache2". > > > How will the Wes' colleagues find it? You need to be able to find > > a port to install it. If a port is required to make sense of the > > structure, we need a bootstrap mechanism, like something in the > > base. Like, ls. > > Don't be silly. Neither portupgrade nor cvsup are in base. People > pkg_install them and then they're good to go. ls is _not_, by any > stretch of the imagination, an adequate tool unless you already have > a pretty good idea of what it is you're looking for. > > I really do not believe that anything with a UI belongs in base, and > I believe that 'search' and 'browse', to be useful to the largest number > of people, need to be UI-based; whether that's as applications, or from > web pages, or more likely, both. > > > I would certainly prefer if we considered the fs structure to be the > > primary interface (and treated it accordingly). I'm weird, I know. > > It's always going to be the 'primary' interface but if we don't build > tools on top of it, it's simply going to limit the ports tree's usefulness > to people who aren't as hardcore as you or I are. fwiw, I rely extensively > on a little script that I wrote that greps things out of the contents of > Makefiles. I am familiar with these kinds of tools. > > But, I mean, honestly, I think I can state without much fear of > contradiction that I have as good a working knowledge of what's in the > ports tree as anyone. Even so, the other day I went looking to see if > there was any port specifically geared to synchronizing file systems on > two peer machines (rather than, e.g., geared to just backing up a file > system). It was really painful to do that, and it shouldn't have been. > None of the existing tools are even vaguely adequate for that. > > mcl My .02 cents worth - - - Would the ports system handle adding another level to its directory structure? A quick way to organize some of the 1000+ port categories? -Mike From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 21 22:09:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F61916A41F for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:09:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 104EE43D45 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:09:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 467DC3073; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 17:09:10 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 17:09:10 -0500 To: "Michael C. Shultz" Message-ID: <20051021220910.GA18988@soaustin.net> References: <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> <20051018160725.GB87664@isis.sigpipe.cz> <20051018162907.GB14192@soaustin.net> <200510211454.41789.ringworm01@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200510211454.41789.ringworm01@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:09:11 -0000 On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 02:54:41PM -0700, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > My .02 cents worth - - - Would the ports system handle adding another > level to its directory structure? This is the biggest FAQ about the ports collection and the answer is always going to be the same: NO. We have nearly ten thousand lines of automated tools which have the two-level assumption hardwired into them. Fixing this would require many, many, hundreds of hours to do the necessary rewriting and regression testing. Reading back through the mailing lists would have shown you this. mcl From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 21 22:12:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6BAB16A420 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:12:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 594FE43D48 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:12:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 090D53073; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 17:12:08 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 17:12:08 -0500 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051021221208.GB18988@soaustin.net> References: <790a9fff0510171505i4010cc05yc30f67d459d1a0e4@mail.gmail.com> <20051018010446.GH71766@isis.sigpipe.cz> <20051018011616.GA57969@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051018153752.GB11790@soaustin.net> <20051018160725.GB87664@isis.sigpipe.cz> <20051018162907.GB14192@soaustin.net> <20051019214018.GA5180@isis.sigpipe.cz> <20051020200315.GA25164@soaustin.net> <20051021212908.GA1384@Pandora.MHoerich.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051021212908.GA1384@Pandora.MHoerich.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:12:09 -0000 On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 11:29:09PM +0200, Mario Hoerich wrote: > I'd favor a set of tools, a library and an ncurses frontend *in base*. > The current set > > * cvsup (what happened to csup btw?) As stated many times in the past, cvsup is not going into base due to its dependency on modula-3. FreeBSD went through a great deal of pain and trouble to wean itself off having perl in the base system, for reasons that have been adequately documented and argued over. We are not going to go backwards. In any case modula-3 does not even work on all of our architectures. As for your other ports in this list, there is a meta-port that will install them all, you know. > The thought is actually quite nice, but the logical groups aren't > disjoint on any count. The "ports for end-users" contain plenty > of ports for devs (e.g. audio/p5-Filesys-Virtual-DAAP), whereas > many actual end-user ports (e.g. Firefox) are elsewhere. True, but we're talking about what can be done in hours instead of in weeks or months, here. mcl From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 21 22:18:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E65C16A41F for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:18:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E2B43D46 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:18:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 8so303559nzo for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:18:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=lh5nY59o0fs8MTq1OitK1cPH2WMLvPyEVt6u+SVi1QCkU+P4cq0AdtXmimNGGhcDrpVWfH5s6h0guyQlwMb+W8NysqwMcTh7BE1Oeh1prFhqO6ZQolPu4u3iZ5nRP4sVHFHX3M4ZZ9jsKzTfGMoVIsg2cJWA8I+8z4AtWE81IR4= Received: by 10.36.177.16 with SMTP id z16mr2034125nze; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:18:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.10? ( [71.102.14.129]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 22sm1109937nzn.2005.10.21.15.18.13; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:18:15 -0700 (PDT) From: "Michael C. Shultz" To: Mark Linimon , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:19:47 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> <200510211454.41789.ringworm01@gmail.com> <20051021220910.GA18988@soaustin.net> In-Reply-To: <20051021220910.GA18988@soaustin.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510211519.47370.ringworm01@gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:18:17 -0000 On Friday 21 October 2005 15:09, you wrote: > On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 02:54:41PM -0700, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > > My .02 cents worth - - - Would the ports system handle adding another > > level to its directory structure? > > This is the biggest FAQ about the ports collection and the answer is > always going to be the same: NO. We have nearly ten thousand lines of > automated tools which have the two-level assumption hardwired into them. > Fixing this would require many, many, hundreds of hours to do the necessary > rewriting and regression testing. > > Reading back through the mailing lists would have shown you this. > > mcl Seems like the quantity of ports available will eventually hit a plateau with the current two level directory structure. No one is afraid to update the basic OS when its needed, even when it means using an entirly different file system ( ie. UFS1 -=> 2 ), why be so scared when it comes to the ports system? -Mike From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 21 22:21:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.Org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F9AA16A41F for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:21:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from edwin@mavetju.org) Received: from mail3out.barnet.com.au (mail3out.barnet.com.au [202.83.176.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9047443D48 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:21:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from edwin@mavetju.org) Received: by mail3out.barnet.com.au (Postfix, from userid 27) id B4F1A877C53; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 08:21:17 +1000 (EST) X-Viruscan-Id: <435969DD0000211B61C93D@BarNet> Received: from mail3-auth.barnet.com.au (mail3.barnet.com.au [202.83.176.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.barnet.com.au", Issuer "BarNet Root Certificate Authority" (verified OK)) by mail3.barnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC05877C20 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 08:21:17 +1000 (EST) Received: from k7.mavetju (edwin-3.int.barnet.com.au [10.10.12.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "edwin.adsl.barnet.com.au", Issuer "BarNet Root Certificate Authority" (not verified)) by mail3-auth.barnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4377C877C1E for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 08:21:17 +1000 (EST) Received: by k7.mavetju (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0D20D611F; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 08:21:16 +1000 (EST) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 08:21:16 +1000 From: Edwin Groothuis To: ports@FreeBSD.Org Message-ID: <20051021222115.GW1265@k7.mavetju> References: <200510211932.j9LJWQwO078956@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200510211932.j9LJWQwO078956@freefall.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD ports: 1 unfetchable distfile: multimedia/pvr250 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:21:19 -0000 On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 07:32:26PM +0000, Bill "distfiles" Fenner wrote: > http://people.freebsd.org/~fenner/portsurvey/edwin@mavetju.org.html > > and correct the problems listed there? The individual port with > a problem is multimedia/pvr250. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/87605 ports/87605 : [patch] bsd.port.mk - add NOFETCHFILES variable Edwin -- Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.mavetju.org edwin@mavetju.org | Weblog: http://weblog.barnet.com.au/edwin/ From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 21 22:39:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59CEA16A41F for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:39:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1549F43D45 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:39:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 8D239301A; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 17:39:58 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 17:39:58 -0500 To: "Michael C. Shultz" Message-ID: <20051021223958.GA19955@soaustin.net> References: <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> <200510211454.41789.ringworm01@gmail.com> <20051021220910.GA18988@soaustin.net> <200510211519.47370.ringworm01@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200510211519.47370.ringworm01@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:39:59 -0000 On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 03:19:47PM -0700, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > Seems like the quantity of ports available will eventually hit a plateau > with the current two level directory structure. No one is afraid to update > the basic OS when its needed, even when it means using an entirly different > file system ( ie. UFS1 -=> 2 ), why be so scared when it comes to the ports > system? Then PLEASE SUBMIT PATCHES. Tested ones. Involving portsmon. Involving the build cluster. Involving marcusom tinderbox. Involving FreshPorts. Involving everything in bsd.*.mk. Involving fixing up all the dependencies after all the thousands of repocopies. You will be submitting thousands, if not tens of thousands, of lines of patches to do so, invoving sh, awk, sed, perl, python, and SQL -- that I know of. There are probably others. Now: I am not going to discuss this issue any further until I see those patches. People, you just have No Idea how much work you are talking about here, just to fiddle around with organizing ports into directories on a physical disk, which I will continue to restate my opinion until I am blue in the face that is the wrong problem to solve _anyway_. The _right_ problems to solve are searching and browsing. If you solve those problems correctly, the physical layout on disk becomes hidden as an implementation detail and no one but hardcore ports developers ever has to think about it again. And you don't have to regression test thousands of lines of patches to do so. This is at least the 20th time this particular idea has been floated. It hasn't gotten any better the last 19 times. Please go back and read the archives. I'm done discussing it. mcl From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 21 23:21:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C0616A41F for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 23:21:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 133C943D49 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 23:21:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 8so309876nzo for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 16:21:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=VcKQ5bk9HpK27gu4rbO/d+8/1LVgpfDGO7o9bEvDRM/TdZiLqlwCesw7i6d1nEThAsZjpdSbIeIrY1wBqYXJ8GYca5AjXS3NwNyqGONtgSVYFCkrBRx6DL9Wt2f0ABR8HlRq90LEPKQFxngSXyjFDFEb98DS2Xpyboh1UWfKlPw= Received: by 10.36.65.7 with SMTP id n7mr999054nza; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 16:21:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.10? ( [71.102.14.129]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 15sm1350380nzn.2005.10.21.16.21.39; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 16:21:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "Michael C. Shultz" To: Mark Linimon , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 16:23:13 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> <200510211519.47370.ringworm01@gmail.com> <20051021223958.GA19955@soaustin.net> In-Reply-To: <20051021223958.GA19955@soaustin.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510211623.13878.ringworm01@gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 23:21:46 -0000 On Friday 21 October 2005 15:39, you wrote: > On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 03:19:47PM -0700, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > > Seems like the quantity of ports available will eventually hit a plateau > > with the current two level directory structure. No one is afraid to > > update the basic OS when its needed, even when it means using an entirly > > different file system ( ie. UFS1 -=> 2 ), why be so scared when it comes > > to the ports system? > > Then PLEASE SUBMIT PATCHES. Tested ones. Involving portsmon. Involving > the build cluster. Involving marcusom tinderbox. Involving FreshPorts. > Involving everything in bsd.*.mk. Involving fixing up all the dependencies > after all the thousands of repocopies. > > You will be submitting thousands, if not tens of thousands, of lines of > patches to do so, invoving sh, awk, sed, perl, python, and SQL -- that I > know of. There are probably others. > > Now: I am not going to discuss this issue any further until I see those > patches. > > People, you just have No Idea how much work you are talking about here, > just to fiddle around with organizing ports into directories on a physical > disk, which I will continue to restate my opinion until I am blue in the > face that is the wrong problem to solve _anyway_. > > The _right_ problems to solve are searching and browsing. If you solve > those problems correctly, the physical layout on disk becomes hidden as > an implementation detail and no one but hardcore ports developers ever > has to think about it again. > > And you don't have to regression test thousands of lines of patches to > do so. > > This is at least the 20th time this particular idea has been floated. > It hasn't gotten any better the last 19 times. Please go back and read > the archives. I'm done discussing it. > > mcl You seem to have your feet well planted on this issue, probably for good reason. What about a /usr/ports2 multilevel directory with softlinks to ports in /usr/ports??? I fiddle with this a bit, if it looks good I'll put something together as a port for you to take a look at. -Mike From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 21 23:29:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F9C16A420 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 23:29:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com (dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com [68.99.120.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D1BA43D48 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 23:29:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dns1 ([64.58.171.82]) by dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051021232937.LSPR7750.dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com@dns1>; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:29:37 -0400 From: Vizion To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 16:24:21 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> <200510211454.41789.ringworm01@gmail.com> <20051021220910.GA18988@soaustin.net> In-Reply-To: <20051021220910.GA18988@soaustin.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510211624.24001.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> Cc: Mark Linimon Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 23:29:33 -0000 On Friday 21 October 2005 15:09, the author Mark Linimon contributed to the dialogue on- Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports: >On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 02:54:41PM -0700, Michael C. Shultz wrote: >> My .02 cents worth - - - Would the ports system handle adding another >> level to its directory structure? > >This is the biggest FAQ about the ports collection and the answer is >always going to be the same: NO. We have nearly ten thousand lines of >automated tools which have the two-level assumption hardwired into them. >Fixing this would require many, many, hundreds of hours to do the necessary >rewriting and regression testing. > >Reading back through the mailing lists would have shown you this. Maybe the hard lesson from this is that before coding any future project for freebsd the proposed structure and a block diagram could be: 1. passed to a systems engineer to advise on the structure. That should avoid "hard-wired" design limitations in future projects. 2. Placed on the freebsd.org website for comunity input. Given that this is such an obvious design flaw why is their such reluctance to mitigate its effects by introducing additional categories! david -- 40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Taurus. Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing bound for Europe via Panama Canal after completing engineroom refit. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 21 23:37:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9712E16A41F for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 23:37:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neuhauser@sigpipe.cz) Received: from isis.sigpipe.cz (fw.sigpipe.cz [62.245.70.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB7C543D46 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 23:37:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neuhauser@sigpipe.cz) Received: by isis.sigpipe.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 433671F87C00; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 01:37:10 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 01:37:10 +0200 From: Roman Neuhauser To: Mark Linimon Message-ID: <20051021233710.GA15030@isis.sigpipe.cz> Mail-Followup-To: Mark Linimon , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <20051017212748.GD71766@isis.sigpipe.cz> <790a9fff0510171505i4010cc05yc30f67d459d1a0e4@mail.gmail.com> <20051018010446.GH71766@isis.sigpipe.cz> <20051018011616.GA57969@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051018153752.GB11790@soaustin.net> <20051018160725.GB87664@isis.sigpipe.cz> <20051018162907.GB14192@soaustin.net> <20051019214018.GA5180@isis.sigpipe.cz> <20051020200315.GA25164@soaustin.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051020200315.GA25164@soaustin.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 23:37:13 -0000 # linimon@lonesome.com / 2005-10-20 15:03:15 -0500: > On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 11:40:18PM +0200, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > > > > What are you missing from make search? I'll try and add it if it's > > > > within reasonable bounds of complexity. > > > > > > e.g. searching when you don't know the exact spelling of the name. > > > > Would optional use of double metaphone or another algorithm help? > > Also, another variable, e. g. KEYWORDS, could be used. > > Please feel free. I just feel uneasy about having things like that > encoded in Makefiles. I would rather see separate tools which 'make > search' could then invoke -- but then, so could any kind of web-based app. > (The old Unix philosophy of 'small tools in combination'). That's two things: how the data is stored, and how it is accessed. > IMHO we have too much monolithic sh/sed/awk/perl magic in the make-framework > as it is but that's an axe I will grind in a different venue. I agree with you here. make search was a bit tough to debug, and I plan to move the code to a separate script that will be run by make search. > > > "show me the ports that have something to do with the Internet"; > > > > What are you missing from make search cat=net ? (I'm not suggesting > > you don't have valid complaints, I'd like to learn about them.) > > Well, there _are_ a few Internet-related ports in net-mgmt, wwww, ... So, would (virtual) membership in net (or inet) help here? > > > "show me a list of plugins that work with Apache2". > > > > Create a virtual category, apache_mod, and then: > > > > make search cat=apache_mod > > > > Go a step further, use materialized virtual categories, and do > > > > ls apache_mod > > > > If you think this wouldn't fly, I'd also like to hear the reasoning. > > Because now you have to create a virtual category for anything that > anyone could possibly think to search on. Creating some kind of tag-based > system would be better. But then you'll have to create and use every tag anyone could possibly think to search on. Otherwise, the tag system would have the same problem as the vcat system. > Then you get people thinking about the tags as meta-information and > then whatever underlying directory structure becomes an implementation > detail. FMPOV youre just proposing to use a different transport for the information the category directory names and contents carry now. If the filesystem were used to represent membership in additional categories, the directory structure could carry that metainformation, and we would achieve comparable results with fewer parts. Besides, this is exactly the thing I fear will happen: that someone else will claim my interface their implementation detail, and I'll be denied my favorite interface. > > > > How will the Wes' colleagues find it? You need to be able to find > > > > a port to install it. If a port is required to make sense of the > > > > structure, we need a bootstrap mechanism, like something in the > > > > base. Like, ls. > > > > > > Don't be silly. > > > > I don't think I am. I'm pointing out a chicken-and-egg condition > > present in your proposal. > > I don't think there is any such thing. People install portugprade and > cvsup without searching for them. They, and other, tools are well-known. > Many more ports (in fact the majority) are not. So if you create some > kind of port-browser tool like portmanager, people can still install that. You said above that the underlying directory structure could become an implementation detail. If you stop thinking of the directory layout as a major human interface, it'll cease functioning in that regard quite quickly. See /etc/sysconfig on an RHEL system. The user friendliness (FMPOV) of /usr/ports lies in the fact that it's all easily accessible to humans. Makefiles are quite easy to read and use, and all information is stored in human accessible representations in text files. This is a huge plus of the ports, and should be kept in mind. > The documenation about the port system can (and should) document the > management tools, outside of the need to run 'make search' to look > for them. Or perhaps someone(TM) could come up with meta-port that > would pull in all the interesting ports management tools -- one meta- > port for users, one meta-port for developers. How would that sound? > > (Note: this is a trick question.) Two tricks that I can see: - *what* are "all the interesting tools"? IOW, emacs or vim for developers, kportman or gportman for users? - how would the users find the metaports? > > > ls is _not_, by any stretch of the imagination, an adequate tool > > > unless you already have a pretty good idea of what it is you're > > > looking for. > > > > Same applies to Google, or basically any search interface, or, > > closer to the topic, to FreshPorts, which I used about thrice in my > > life, BTW. > > Well, if you don't think Google is an easier interface to use for vague > queries than 'make search' or 'ls', by all means, stick to it. My own > opinion is that you're going to be in a minority but I'm not going to > spend any more time convincing you otherwise. You're mixing two problems here, and completely missed my point. The interface: web client is a very fine tool for that because you'll use it to manipulate the result set. The idea of installing software by clicking on links in a web page isn't that comfortable. The search: besides being smarter than 30 lines of awk about the data it processes, the data Google has is completely different, much richer, and quite self-describing. An average article about std::vectors is much longer than any COMMENT, and you won't get much better results even with a 3d graphical virtual reality browser. And, my point was that Google isn't mostly used to find "the" page, I rather want "a" page on std::vectors. If you don't know that the port you're looking for is a CORBA ORB, you're probably screwed with or without a web interface, but you can already do ls -d */*orb* if you do. > > I've learned over the last 15 years that the most comfortable UI for > > the majority of people is a single OK button in the middle of the > > screen. I'm fine with that unless someone tries to shove it down > > *my* throat. > > I never said we'd get rid of 'make search'. What I said is that I believe > is that for a large group of people it is not going to meet their needs. > I don't know where you came up with the idea that I was discouraging its > use. I just don't think it adequately solves the problem. Your Mileage > Apparently Varies. If the directory structure becomes, and is treated as an implementation detail, it will sooner or later lose its current accessibility. I like to ls-and-see around ports. > [mentions language categories] That was the top of for c in /usr/ports/[a-z]*(/); do echo "$(ls $c | wc -l) $c"; done | sort -n IOW, I was pointing at the smallest categories, whether they were language or other was unimportant. > > then there's surely room for > > > > 24 /usr/ports/eclipse > > > > And, 1620 /usr/ports/devel could use a close look at. > > The problem is: how do you present the information about categories? Can you try again? I don't understand the question. > If we let every logical group of 24 ports have its own category*, and > eliding for sake of this discussion whether it is physical or virtual, > now you have up to 13666/24=569 categories. Presenting a list of more > than a couple hundred of _anything_ is just useless, as you can see by > trying to look through the devel/ports (no matter whatever mechanism you > choose). If you break devel/ into 1620/24=67 categories you haven't > solved any real problem; you've instead moved the problem up one level > and spent a great deal of developer time to do it. Well, I do think that splitting a heap of 1620 ports into 67 chunks, each of manageable size, would help. It would add new, finergrained ways of looking those 1620 ports that aren't organized any further. Also, the average number of ports in a category is unknown, but even if I accept your guesstimate of 569 categories, the number is still three times smaller than the 1620 in devel, so it looks like a win. Thanks, assured me that it is a worthwile project to set on. > Now, instead of all this email debate, a few days ago I talked Edwin > Groothius into implementing a test idea about how to break up the > existing category list on http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/ into logical > groups. It's inadequate but a) it's better than the flat space and b) > it's actual code rather than just talk. I will note that there has > been _zero_ feedback on this change, pro or con. I haven't seen that page since a few years. Here's my .2 if you're interested: The dictionary in top page adds information which isn't in the ports, and that's the added value that makes finding something without knowing the right words possible: it's described in more ways. It's not the transport that makes it better, it's the metadata it adds. If the information that is in the web page was in /usr/ports/README (possibly with reST or wiki format for easy conversion to html), it could be used with or without a browser or an internet connection. The search form is inferior to make search, it provides no way to enter specific queries (all you have is All / Package name / Description) leading to false positives and negatives in results. Doing this well on the web is hard, because static forms have static complexity, and eg the complex search form in bugzilla doesn't get any smaller whan you don't use all its knobs. On the command line, the complexity of the interface grows with the complexity of your query. The conversion to html makes viewing pkg-descr files somewhat easier (with urls made into links, which is nice), but getting at the Makefile and other files in the port directory is somewhat harder. > IMHO it's a little, tiny, step towards exploring ideas about how to > display this information. And frankly at this point I'd rather try to > continue to prototype different approaches than spend any more time on > this discussion. Ok, bye. -- How many Vietnam vets does it take to screw in a light bulb? You don't know, man. You don't KNOW. Cause you weren't THERE. http://bash.org/?255991 From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 21 23:59:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E89516A41F for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 23:59:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neuhauser@sigpipe.cz) Received: from isis.sigpipe.cz (fw.sigpipe.cz [62.245.70.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3CF043D45 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 23:59:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neuhauser@sigpipe.cz) Received: by isis.sigpipe.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6B3781F87BFD; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 01:59:50 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 01:59:50 +0200 From: Roman Neuhauser To: Mark Linimon Message-ID: <20051021235950.GB15030@isis.sigpipe.cz> Mail-Followup-To: Mark Linimon , "Michael C. Shultz" , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> <200510211454.41789.ringworm01@gmail.com> <20051021220910.GA18988@soaustin.net> <200510211519.47370.ringworm01@gmail.com> <20051021223958.GA19955@soaustin.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051021223958.GA19955@soaustin.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 23:59:52 -0000 # linimon@lonesome.com / 2005-10-21 17:39:58 -0500: > On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 03:19:47PM -0700, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > > Seems like the quantity of ports available will eventually hit a plateau > > with the current two level directory structure. No one is afraid to update > > the basic OS when its needed, even when it means using an entirly different > > file system ( ie. UFS1 -=> 2 ), why be so scared when it comes to the ports > > system? > > Then PLEASE SUBMIT PATCHES. Tested ones. Involving portsmon. Involving > the build cluster. Involving marcusom tinderbox. Involving FreshPorts. > Involving everything in bsd.*.mk. Involving fixing up all the dependencies > after all the thousands of repocopies. This is an absurd overreaction. FreshPorts is a third party resource, and FreeBSD does change other interfaces also used by other third party software on regular basis. The build cluster automation shouldn't limit the utility of ports. BTW, are the scripts publicly available? I don't see anything on http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/ or http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ If I wanted to update the build cluster code, where would I get it? portsmon is your software, and keeping it hostage to changes in ports is IMO unethical. Interfaces sometimes change for the better, just update your code and be done with it. Note that I'm not advocating doing the repocopies because that would royally screw the repository history, and that's just not worth it. -- How many Vietnam vets does it take to screw in a light bulb? You don't know, man. You don't KNOW. Cause you weren't THERE. http://bash.org/?255991 From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 22 00:12:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D4D916A41F for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 00:12:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com (dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com [68.99.120.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829D543D66 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 00:12:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dns1 ([64.58.171.82]) by dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051022001239.MVMN7750.dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com@dns1>; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 20:12:39 -0400 From: Vizion To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 17:07:27 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> <20051021223958.GA19955@soaustin.net> <20051021235950.GB15030@isis.sigpipe.cz> In-Reply-To: <20051021235950.GB15030@isis.sigpipe.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510211707.29223.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> Cc: Mark Linimon , Roman Neuhauser Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 00:12:35 -0000 On Friday 21 October 2005 16:59, the author Roman Neuhauser contributed to the dialogue on- Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports: ># linimon@lonesome.com / 2005-10-21 17:39:58 -0500: >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 03:19:47PM -0700, Michael C. Shultz wrote: >> > Seems like the quantity of ports available will eventually hit a plateau >> > with the current two level directory structure. No one is afraid to >> > update the basic OS when its needed, even when it means using an entirly >> > different file system ( ie. UFS1 -=> 2 ), why be so scared when it >> > comes to the ports system? Good point I know my opinion might be regarded as ecentric but, as I see it, the community is spending far too much od its developmental resopurces on advancing the operating system and far too little on bringing user interfaces and convenience up to date. I see it as time to slow down on OS development and really focus on bringing the operating system management to a level that accords with comparable modern day standards. David >> >> Then PLEASE SUBMIT PATCHES. Tested ones. Involving portsmon. Involving >> the build cluster. Involving marcusom tinderbox. Involving FreshPorts. >> Involving everything in bsd.*.mk. Involving fixing up all the >> dependencies after all the thousands of repocopies. > > This is an absurd overreaction. Agreed - -- 40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Taurus. Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing bound for Europe via Panama Canal after completing engineroom refit. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 22 00:25:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA87016A41F for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 00:25:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com (lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com [68.99.120.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ABA843D46 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 00:25:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dns1 ([64.58.171.82]) by lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051022002507.OUHO25114.lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com@dns1>; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 20:25:07 -0400 From: Vizion To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 17:19:53 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> <20051021223958.GA19955@soaustin.net> <200510211623.13878.ringworm01@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200510211623.13878.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510211719.55854.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> Cc: Mark Linimon Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 00:25:01 -0000 On Friday 21 October 2005 16:23, the author Michael C. Shultz contributed to the dialogue on- Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports: >On Friday 21 October 2005 15:39, you wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 03:19:47PM -0700, Michael C. Shultz wrote: >> > Seems like the quantity of ports available will eventually hit a plateau >> > with the current two level directory structure. No one is afraid to >> > update the basic OS when its needed, even when it means using an entirly >> > different file system ( ie. UFS1 -=> 2 ), why be so scared when it >> > comes to the ports system? >> >> Then PLEASE SUBMIT PATCHES. Tested ones. Involving portsmon. Involving >> the build cluster. Involving marcusom tinderbox. Involving FreshPorts. >> Involving everything in bsd.*.mk. Involving fixing up all the >> dependencies after all the thousands of repocopies. >> >> You will be submitting thousands, if not tens of thousands, of lines of >> patches to do so, invoving sh, awk, sed, perl, python, and SQL -- that I >> know of. There are probably others. >> >> Now: I am not going to discuss this issue any further until I see those >> patches. >> >> People, you just have No Idea how much work you are talking about here, >> just to fiddle around with organizing ports into directories on a physical >> disk, which I will continue to restate my opinion until I am blue in the >> face that is the wrong problem to solve _anyway_. >> >> The _right_ problems to solve are searching and browsing. If you solve >> those problems correctly, the physical layout on disk becomes hidden as >> an implementation detail and no one but hardcore ports developers ever >> has to think about it again. In addition to searching and browsing there are problems associated with the physival organization of files on local systems as well as on the freebsd server systems. This issue is not addressed by fiddling with just the search and browsing issue. With framework centric computing one needs the ports system to have a hierarchy that matches local needs as well as server needs. As a temporary measure that could be done by making more categories available without the currenty hassle. e.g. /usr/ports/java and /usr/ports/eclipse while more long terms redesign of of outfate two tier ports system can be implemented My two pennorth david >> >> And you don't have to regression test thousands of lines of patches to >> do so. >> >> This is at least the 20th time this particular idea has been floated. >> It hasn't gotten any better the last 19 times. Please go back and read >> the archives. I'm done discussing it. >> >> mcl > >You seem to have your feet well planted on this issue, probably for good >reason. > >What about a /usr/ports2 multilevel directory with softlinks to ports >in /usr/ports??? I fiddle with this a bit, if it looks good I'll put >something together as a port for you to take a look at. > >-Mike > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- 40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Taurus. Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing bound for Europe via Panama Canal after completing engineroom refit. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 22 00:43:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E43A516A41F for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 00:43:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fenner@research.att.com) Received: from mail-white.research.att.com (mail-red.research.att.com [192.20.225.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C69043D45 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 00:43:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fenner@research.att.com) Received: from bright.research.att.com (bright.research.att.com [135.207.20.189]) by mail-blue.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DD011475F7; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:38:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from fenner@localhost) by bright.research.att.com (8.12.11/8.12.10/Submit) id j9LMctcR000735; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:38:55 -0700 From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <200510212238.j9LMctcR000735@bright.research.att.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII To: cybermartyr@MaskeProductions.com References: <200510211932.j9LJWvgM079280@freefall.freebsd.org> <30073.163.192.21.45.1129924035.squirrel@mail.maskeproductions.com> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:38:55 -0700 Versions: dmail (linux) 2.7/makemail 2.14 Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD ports: 1 unfetchable distfile: www/mod_auth_mysql41_ap2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 00:43:56 -0000 The problem is that the ftp.maske.org ftp server returns an empty response to "LIST mod_auth_mysql41_ap2_1.00.tar.gz". To save bandwidth, the distfile checker doesn't actually download any files; it just tries the equivalent of an "ls" command on each file (or an HTTP "HEAD" for http: or https: URLs). If this is a policy of ftp.maske.org, I can create a "blacklist" of sites for which I know this algorithm doesn't work. Bill From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 22 00:50:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F98116A41F for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 00:50:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from edwin@mavetju.org) Received: from mail3out.barnet.com.au (mail3out.barnet.com.au [202.83.176.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED4C43D46 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 00:50:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from edwin@mavetju.org) Received: by mail3out.barnet.com.au (Postfix, from userid 27) id E9ADB877CB0; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 10:50:42 +1000 (EST) X-Viruscan-Id: <43598CE20000A39D0CCB93@BarNet> Received: from mail3-auth.barnet.com.au (mail3.barnet.com.au [202.83.176.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.barnet.com.au", Issuer "BarNet Root Certificate Authority" (verified OK)) by mail3.barnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id C251A877CA8; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 10:50:42 +1000 (EST) Received: from k7.mavetju (edwin-3.int.barnet.com.au [10.10.12.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "edwin.adsl.barnet.com.au", Issuer "BarNet Root Certificate Authority" (not verified)) by mail3-auth.barnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B930877CA4; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 10:50:42 +1000 (EST) Received: by k7.mavetju (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3F67160E1; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 10:50:41 +1000 (EST) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 10:50:41 +1000 From: Edwin Groothuis To: Bill Fenner Message-ID: <20051022005041.GK1278@k7.mavetju> References: <200510211932.j9LJWvgM079280@freefall.freebsd.org> <30073.163.192.21.45.1129924035.squirrel@mail.maskeproductions.com> <200510212238.j9LMctcR000735@bright.research.att.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200510212238.j9LMctcR000735@bright.research.att.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD ports: 1 unfetchable distfile: www/mod_auth_mysql41_ap2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 00:50:46 -0000 On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 03:38:55PM -0700, Bill Fenner wrote: > The problem is that the ftp.maske.org ftp server returns an empty > response to "LIST mod_auth_mysql41_ap2_1.00.tar.gz". To save > bandwidth, the distfile checker doesn't actually download any files; > it just tries the equivalent of an "ls" command on each file > (or an HTTP "HEAD" for http: or https: URLs). > > If this is a policy of ftp.maske.org, I can create a "blacklist" > of sites for which I know this algorithm doesn't work. ftp://cr.yp.to might have the same problem. Edwin -- Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.mavetju.org edwin@mavetju.org | Weblog: http://weblog.barnet.com.au/edwin/ From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 22 01:01:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D2D516A41F for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 01:01:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nork@FreeBSD.org) Received: from sakura.ninth-nine.com (sakura.ninth-nine.com [219.127.74.120]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD3743D45 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 01:01:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nork@FreeBSD.org) Received: from nadesico.ninth-nine.com (nadesico.ninth-nine.com [219.127.74.122]) by sakura.ninth-nine.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/NinthNine) with ESMTP id j9M10weG019847; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 10:00:59 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from nork@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 10:00:58 +0900 From: Norikatsu Shigemura To: Vizion , linimon@lonesome.com Message-Id: <20051022100058.a24c54d9.nork@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <200510211707.29223.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> References: <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> <20051021223958.GA19955@soaustin.net> <20051021235950.GB15030@isis.sigpipe.cz> <200510211707.29223.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.1.3 (GTK+ 2.6.10; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0 (sakura.ninth-nine.com [219.127.74.121]); Sat, 22 Oct 2005 10:00:59 +0900 (JST) Cc: neuhauser@sigpipe.cz, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 01:01:02 -0000 On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 17:07:27 -0700 Vizion wrote: > On Friday 21 October 2005 16:59, the author Roman Neuhauser contributed to > the dialogue on- > Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports: > ># linimon@lonesome.com / 2005-10-21 17:39:58 -0500: > >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 03:19:47PM -0700, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > >> > Seems like the quantity of ports available will eventually hit a plateau > >> > with the current two level directory structure. No one is afraid to > >> > update the basic OS when its needed, even when it means using an entirly > >> > different file system ( ie. UFS1 -=> 2 ), why be so scared when it > >> > comes to the ports system? > Good point > I know my opinion might be regarded as ecentric but, as I see it, the > community is spending far too much od its developmental resopurces on > advancing the operating system and far too little on bringing user interfaces > and convenience up to date. > I see it as time to slow down on OS development and really focus on bringing > the operating system management to a level that accords with comparable > modern day standards. > >> Then PLEASE SUBMIT PATCHES. Tested ones. Involving portsmon. Involving > >> the build cluster. Involving marcusom tinderbox. Involving FreshPorts. > >> Involving everything in bsd.*.mk. Involving fixing up all the > >> dependencies after all the thousands of repocopies. > > > > This is an absurd overreaction. > Agreed - Hum.. The eclipse repocopy discussion became new ports system discussion. Next time, please implement ports2/eclipse or ports/eclise. So I'll repocopy from */eclipse-* to eclipse/, too. BTW as soon as possible;-), I'll send-pr my 2nd repocopy plan (java/eclipse -> editors/eclipse), and repocopy these. 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( [71.102.14.129]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 6sm934679nzn.2005.10.21.18.32.54; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:32:57 -0700 (PDT) From: "Michael C. Shultz" To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Vizion , Mark Linimon , Roman Neuhauser Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:34:26 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> <20051021235950.GB15030@isis.sigpipe.cz> <200510211707.29223.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200510211707.29223.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510211834.28658.ringworm01@gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 01:33:00 -0000 On Friday 21 October 2005 17:07, Vizion wrote: > On Friday 21 October 2005 16:59, the author Roman Neuhauser contributed to > the dialogue on- > > Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports: > ># linimon@lonesome.com / 2005-10-21 17:39:58 -0500: > >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 03:19:47PM -0700, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > >> > Seems like the quantity of ports available will eventually hit a > >> > plateau with the current two level directory structure. No one is > >> > afraid to update the basic OS when its needed, even when it means > >> > using an entirly different file system ( ie. UFS1 -=> 2 ), why be so > >> > scared when it comes to the ports system? > > Good point > > I know my opinion might be regarded as ecentric but, as I see it, the > community is spending far too much od its developmental resopurces on > advancing the operating system and far too little on bringing user > interfaces and convenience up to date. > > I see it as time to slow down on OS development and really focus on > bringing the operating system management to a level that accords with > comparable modern day standards. > I completely agree with slowing down on OS developement , it seems pointless to race for higher version numbers while problems remain with previous versions. As far as the ports system goes though, to date FreeBSD is way ahead of every other OS I've looked at IMO, of corse that is a poor excuse to stagnate. -Mike From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 22 02:21:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A6F16A41F for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 02:21:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com (dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com [68.99.120.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08C0243D45 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 02:21:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dns1 ([64.58.171.82]) by dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051022022157.PTCI7750.dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com@dns1>; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:21:57 -0400 From: Vizion To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:16:43 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> <200510211707.29223.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> <200510211834.28658.ringworm01@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200510211834.28658.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510211916.46375.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> Cc: Mark Linimon , Roman Neuhauser Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 02:21:51 -0000 On Friday 21 October 2005 18:34, the author Michael C. Shultz contributed to the dialogue on- Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports: >On Friday 21 October 2005 17:07, Vizion wrote: >> On Friday 21 October 2005 16:59, the author Roman Neuhauser contributed >> to the dialogue on- >> >> Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports: >> ># linimon@lonesome.com / 2005-10-21 17:39:58 -0500: >> >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 03:19:47PM -0700, Michael C. Shultz wrote: >> >> > Seems like the quantity of ports available will eventually hit a >> >> > plateau with the current two level directory structure. No one is >> >> > afraid to update the basic OS when its needed, even when it means >> >> > using an entirly different file system ( ie. UFS1 -=> 2 ), why be so >> >> > scared when it comes to the ports system? >> >> Good point >> >> I know my opinion might be regarded as ecentric but, as I see it, the >> community is spending far too much od its developmental resopurces on >> advancing the operating system and far too little on bringing user >> interfaces and convenience up to date. >> >> I see it as time to slow down on OS development and really focus on >> bringing the operating system management to a level that accords with >> comparable modern day standards. > >I completely agree with slowing down on OS developement , it seems pointless >to race for higher version numbers while problems remain with previous >versions. As far as the ports system goes though, to date FreeBSD is way >ahead of every other OS I've looked at IMO, of corse that is a poor excuse > to stagnate. I agree with what you say. It is because the ports system is so good that I want: a) o see it used to the full despite its limitations (everything can be mafe better and its easier to make better things excelllent that things that have been done less well!! :-) b) Because the ports system provides a sound starting point for a thoughtfully designed system wide management GUI built either by using mysql/apache/php or through using something like eclipse. c) building a modern system management interface needs OS development to slow down while user interface systems catch up .. then we have a basis to really go forward My two pennorth david > >-Mike > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- 40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Taurus. Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing bound for Europe via Panama Canal after completing engineroom refit. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 22 03:25:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CCC716A41F for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 03:25:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C10DF43D45 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 03:25:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 04196308C; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:25:37 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:25:36 -0500 To: "Michael C. Shultz" , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051022032536.GA28662@soaustin.net> References: <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> <200510211454.41789.ringworm01@gmail.com> <20051021220910.GA18988@soaustin.net> <200510211519.47370.ringworm01@gmail.com> <20051021223958.GA19955@soaustin.net> <20051021235950.GB15030@isis.sigpipe.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051021235950.GB15030@isis.sigpipe.cz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Cc: Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 03:25:38 -0000 On Sat, Oct 22, 2005 at 01:59:50AM +0200, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > The build cluster automation shouldn't limit the utility of ports. > BTW, are the scripts publicly available? I don't see anything on > http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/ or > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ > If I wanted to update the build cluster code, where would I get it? If you don't understand the extent of that code, I can see how easy it might be for you to assume that it's easy to work with. Please see ports/Tools/portbuild. Also you will be rewriting the marcusom tinderbox at tinderbox.marcuscom.com as well. I do not know under what license the FreshPorts code is. > portsmon is your software, and keeping it hostage to changes in > ports is IMO unethical. What I am _implying_ is that a lot of work has to be done to make it work, and that I _personally_ am not going to make it a priority to rewrite it based on someone's pet blue-sky idea. The fact that you would charge someone like me who has put literally HUNDREDS of hours into that system -- for his own personal internal movtivation, there are no extrinsic rewards -- with being unethical is a complete and total outrage. As far as I am concerned this gives me complete permission to just ignore anything you have to say after this point. You have apparently missed a key underlying principle of this project: that it's a _volunteer_ project and you cannot _compel_ a volunteer to go work on anything that they are not personally interested in working on. If you don't like this, the code is available under BSDL. Grab a copy, install it yourself, rewrite it, run it, and claim your solution obsoletes mine. That's the "BSD way". But if you insist that I do all that just on your whim, you're going to be out of luck. (And, along the way, you might find out how much work is already going into maintaining it -- work, like much of what goes into the ports collection, that goes on, unheralded, behind the scenes -- unlike all the bikeshedding like this that goes on in public and what people seem so impressed by, despite the fact that, in general, nothing actually gets accomplished). I simply don't have the free time to rewrite it _and_ work on all the other priorities to which I have currently, and in the past, put so much time into on this project -- ones, as far as I am concerned, will have a much higher impact on the usability of the system. Before you get all the above done, I might even be able to _prototype_ some kind of better search mechanism and solve the more useful part of the problem. To me, it would clearly take far less time to do so. However, as far as I'm concerned, you've destroyed your own credibility with what I've quoted above, so I'm simply going to go back to _doing_ work rather than arguing with you, which is clearly going to accomplish exactly nothing. It's not even worth my time to ask for an apology for it, either, although in my own mind I'm due one. I just have better things to do. mcl From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 22 04:58:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C9A16A41F for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 04:58:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com (lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com [68.99.120.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F39C443D46 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 04:58:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dns1 ([64.58.171.82]) by lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051022045906.VCJM25114.lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com@dns1>; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 00:59:06 -0400 From: Vizion To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 21:53:51 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> <20051021223958.GA19955@soaustin.net> <20051021235950.GB15030@isis.sigpipe.cz> In-Reply-To: <20051021235950.GB15030@isis.sigpipe.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510212153.53641.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> Cc: Mark Linimon , Roman Neuhauser Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 04:58:59 -0000 On Friday 21 October 2005 16:59, the author Roman Neuhauser contributed to the dialogue on- Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports: ># linimon@lonesome.com / 2005-10-21 17:39:58 -0500: >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 03:19:47PM -0700, Michael C. Shultz wrote: >> > Seems like the quantity of ports available will eventually hit a plateau >> > with the current two level directory structure. No one is afraid to >> > update the basic OS when its needed, even when it means using an entirly >> > different file system ( ie. UFS1 -=> 2 ), why be so scared when it >> > comes to the ports system? >> >> Then PLEASE SUBMIT PATCHES. Tested ones. Involving portsmon. Involving >> the build cluster. Involving marcusom tinderbox. Involving FreshPorts. >> Involving everything in bsd.*.mk. Involving fixing up all the >> dependencies after all the thousands of repocopies. > > This is an absurd overreaction. > > FreshPorts is a third party resource, and FreeBSD does change other > interfaces also used by other third party software on regular basis. > > The build cluster automation shouldn't limit the utility of ports. > BTW, are the scripts publicly available? I don't see anything on > http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/ or > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ > If I wanted to update the build cluster code, where would I get it? > > portsmon is your software, and keeping it hostage to changes in > ports is IMO unethical. However rerasonable your other arguments are I don't think it is reasonable to suggest that lack of ethics is the problem. FWIW I think the freebsd ports is a really good system but, in the light of modern developments, it is in need of substantial reconsideration and maybe, in the medium term, total re-engineeringhose who have built it have done their best - even if, with the benefit of hindsight we can see it would have been better if some things had not been gard-wired into it. The challenge is to find a medium term solution that goes beyond reducing the problem to merely dealing with search and browse-- which does nothing to address the substantantive issues. I see the only thing we can do in the short term, is to make best use of the two tiered system by increasing the number of categories and catering for framework centric computing and operating system interface layers e.g. eclipse thorugh /usr/ports/eclipse and java through /usr/ports/java and then try and find a way to either reconstruct or re-design the engineered deficits in the existing system. But let us not accuse those who have worked on the system in the past of unethicality david -- 40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Taurus. Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing bound for Europe via Panama Canal after completing engineroom refit. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 22 05:17:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7638A16A41F for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 05:17:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nu.org) Received: from in.nu.org (dsl-202-173-130-73.nsw.westnet.com.au [202.173.130.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E9843D45 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 05:17:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nu.org) Received: by in.nu.org (Postfix, from userid 300) id 362D719F6D; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 15:17:39 +1000 (EST) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 15:17:39 +1000 From: Christopher JS Vance To: nocturnal Message-ID: <20051022051739.GB10853@nu.org> References: <4357D830.7060506@swehack.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4357D830.7060506@swehack.se> Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flaws in the ports system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 05:17:42 -0000 On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 07:47:28PM +0200, nocturnal wrote: >This is a very low priority discussion but i was just wondering if there >are any known design flaws in the ports system or other reasons for the >ports to be replaced by a new system. Needing to make install before make package is a design flaw - it should be the other way around. The implementation needs to be able to ensure that the building host's environment is affected only by installing the package/port, not just by building the port into a package. It can be done. I like the number of ports available in FreeBSD compared to the other BSDs, so it's not all one way. -- Christopher Vance From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 22 05:29:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D75D416A41F for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 05:29:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from itetcu@people.tecnik93.com) Received: from relay.rdsnet.ro (gimli.rdsnet.ro [193.231.236.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A8D1C43D45 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 05:29:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from itetcu@people.tecnik93.com) Received: (qmail 2868 invoked from network); 22 Oct 2005 05:29:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.rdsnet.ro) (62.231.74.130) by smtp1-133.rdsnet.ro with SMTP; 22 Oct 2005 05:29:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 15170 invoked by uid 89); 22 Oct 2005 05:29:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO it.buh.tecnik93.com) (81.196.204.98) by 0 with SMTP; 22 Oct 2005 05:29:37 -0000 Received: from it.buh.tecnik93.com (localhost.buh.tecnik93.com [127.0.0.1]) by it.buh.tecnik93.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A59115F6; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 08:29:36 +0300 (EEST) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 08:29:36 +0300 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20051022082936.17c5f5e9@it.buh.tecnik93.com> In-Reply-To: <20051021131456.GB5653@lack-of-gravitas.thebunker.net> References: <4357D830.7060506@swehack.se> <435825F8.4020305@datacomm.ch> <20051021002031.GA12167@holestein.holy.cow> <20051021131456.GB5653@lack-of-gravitas.thebunker.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.12 (GTK+ 2.6.8; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Benjamin Lutz , nocturnal , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flaws in the ports system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 05:29:41 -0000 On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:14:56 +0100 Matthew Seaman wrote: > On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 08:20:31PM -0400, Parv wrote: > > in message <435825F8.4020305@datacomm.ch>, > > wrote Benjamin Lutz thusly... > > > > > > - Searching. Personally, I strongly dislike make search because > > > its way too verbose. Search results easily fill several > > > screenfuls, and grepping it is not trivial. I've worked around > > > this one by creating a tool that writes grep-able sub-indexes to > > > disk in a more concise format, the tool's available here: > > > http://www.maxlor.com/freebsd-scripts.shtml > > > > It seems anybody who does not like "make search" and is able to > > generate an alternative, does. I did. And so did[0] Matthew Seaman > > by having sysutils/p5-FreeBSD-Portindex in the ports system. From > > the port's description file ... > > > > cache-init, cache-update, find-updated and portindex are a set of > > perl scripts built around the common core of the > > FreeBSD::Portindex modules. Their use is to generate and maintain > > the ports INDEX or INDEX-5 files speedily and efficiently. > > Ultimately they work in a very similar way to the standard make > > index command, except that the FreeBSD::Portindex tools keep a > > cache of the make describe output from each port, and can update > > that cached data incrementally as the ports tree itself is updated. > > > > WWW: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/portindex/ > > > > > > [0] I am not speaking on behalf of Matthew S, but making one > > particular point. > > Thank you very much for the vote of confidence. Mind you, > p5-FreeBSD-Portindex doesn't do much to solve the OPs complaints about > 'make search', as it is an alternative to 'make index'. The resulting > INDEX{,-5,-6} file (which is what 'make search' searches) should be > pretty much identical whether you run cache-update and portindex or > you use the standard 'make index'. > > Hmmm.. looks like I need to update that page a bit, seeing as various > version numbers on there have been superceeded now. One of these days > I might even get round to the semi-mythical Version 2.0. Wow :) If you need any beta-testing, etc. you know where to find me. I continue to be a big fan of portindex, I usually install it in the first ten ports on any new system. -- IOnut Unregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" "Intellectual Property" is nowhere near as valuable as "Intellect" From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 22 05:31:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E831016A41F for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 05:31:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from S3.cableone.net (s3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B2AB43D48 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 05:31:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42.vulpes (unverified [24.119.122.41]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 34766226 for multiple; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:39:31 -0700 Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 00:35:47 -0500 From: Vulpes Velox To: Vizion Message-ID: <20051022003547.0b197d29@vixen42.vulpes> In-Reply-To: <200510201239.50154.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> References: <4357D830.7060506@swehack.se> <200510201239.50154.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.15 (GTK+ 2.6.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 157, in=278, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.119.122.41 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Cc: nocturnal , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flaws in the ports system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 05:31:23 -0000 On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:39:48 -0700 Vizion wrote: > On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:47, the author nocturnal > contributed to the dialogue on- > Flaws in the ports system?: > > >Hi > > > >This is a very low priority discussion but i was just wondering if > >there are any known design flaws in the ports system or other > >reasons for the ports to be replaced by a new system. > > > >I'm wondering because ever since i started with freebsd and then > >discovered the ports they have been working perfectly so i must > >know if they truly are perfect or if some of you gurus out there > >see flaws in the system. > > > The system meets its original design specification - so to that > extent I do not believe that the system is flawed. There is > however, in my opinion, a big > BUT>>>> > > With the changes in computing methodology and user expectations > over the last 10 years the ports system appear to me to be in need > of some immediate serious revision if Freebsd is going to be seen > as meeting current and future challenges and user expectations. I > am but one voice and what I have to say is only my opinion. I see > the following challenges: > > 1. The user tools for maintaining the local ports collection do not > include an integrated GUI for management of the ports tree, local > installation, automated upgrading of the ports combined with > configuration files. Such a management could be built using, for > example, a web/database system or with a framework such as Eclipse. > FreeBSD has been built upon the traditional **ix framework that > relies, for its management, upon the sequential use of multiple > tools to solve problems. This is apowerful method for problem > solving but it has not traditionally included the kind of user > friendly GUI to which modern computer users are accustomed to and > expect. To deliver a new ports GUI would be a large project and, > in a ddition to the foregoing ewquirements, should include a > sophisticated ability to search information about th ports and link > with port focused dynamic help files and provide an efficient > interuser dialogue for each port. Something like this should be regarded as a add on and not part of the base system. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 22 05:52:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18DDC16A425 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 05:52:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from S4.cableone.net (s4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5F643D48 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 05:52:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42.vulpes (unverified [24.119.122.41]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 34539834 for multiple; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 23:06:09 -0700 Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 00:56:42 -0500 From: Vulpes Velox To: Benjamin Lutz Message-ID: <20051022005642.6b15e0f7@vixen42.vulpes> In-Reply-To: <435825F8.4020305@datacomm.ch> References: <4357D830.7060506@swehack.se> <435825F8.4020305@datacomm.ch> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.15 (GTK+ 2.6.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 1, First 155, in=279, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.119.122.41 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Cc: nocturnal , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flaws in the ports system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 05:52:11 -0000 On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 01:19:20 +0200 Benjamin Lutz wrote: > nocturnal wrote: > > This is a very low priority discussion but i was just wondering > > if there are any known design flaws in the ports system or other > > reasons for the ports to be replaced by a new system. > > They work well, more or less, and certainly as intended. There's a > couple of things though that I think are not solved optimally: > > - Support for different versions of a software package. As of now, > if there's a need to have different versions of a package in the > ports, it means creating several "top-level" ports. An example for > this is tcl: There's a lang/tcl80, lang/tcl82, lang/tcl83 and > lang/tcl84. Imo Gentoo's portage solves this better, it supports > different versions of the same port: In dev-lang/tcl I find the > following files: tcl-8.3.4.ebuild, tcl-8.4.6.ebuild, > tcl-8.4.6-r1.ebuild, tcl-8.4.9.ebuild and tcl-8.4.11.ebuild. As > far as I can tell (I'm not a portage guru, just a user) new > versions are created as a new ebuild, and old versions are > eventually dropped from the repository. This gives a "moving > window", which I think is nice. > > - Configuration management. This is hard to get right, but I don't > think that simply littering /usr/local/etc with .sample files is > the best way to solve it. I've seen some infrastructure in place to > automagically merge config file changes, but I didn't notice it > being used so far. As it is, upgrading daemons means lots of manual > labour (scanning the sample config file for changes, or even > redoing the configuration from scratch), which every admin has to > do, and which could maybe be pooled so the port maintainer does > most of it, and the users could simply say y/n a few times in a > tool like mergemaster. Interactive ports are insanely annoying. I honestly would love to see the crap like that done away with in most cases. After I finish a few projects, I am actually planning on figuring out a way rework that in a lot nicer manner than most of the interactive stuff popping up the damn menu is currently done. When I have the time, I plan to solve this. What I want is this, a enviromental variable to tell it to use the defaults, if possible, and if not to skip it. Then a command to get a list of supported settings that that port uses. I honestly like the spaming of the sample files. If not to /usr/local/etc, then to /usr/local/share/example/etc would probally be good. I honestly feel it is the end users responsibility set it up the way they want it. Good sane defaults for the like of some servers is nice though. > - Mirror selection. For us europeans, the US sourceforge mirror > which is used by a lot of ports by default is very slow. It is > possible to override the mirror selection by setting some variables > in make.conf, but it's far from apparent how to do so, or that it > is even possible. Additionally, while fetch seems to have some > support for resuming interrupted downloads, often enough a partial > or corrupted existing distfile leads to fetch doing nothing at all. > The solution is easy, just delete the existing distfile, but the > tools don't hint at that. > > - Speed. The ports use of makefiles as prime mechanism makes it very > flexible, but given the sheer number of ports we have by now, it's > also become slow. Building an INDEX takes forever, and pkg_version > is painful to use on slow machines. A result of that is that we > now have a number of add-on tools that speed up things with binary > dbs and caches, however I consider those a work-around, not a > solution. Basically, I think that the current system doesn't scale > too well. One possibility I can think of that alleviates the > problem a bit without changing the existing structure (there's this > POLA thing I guess) is changing make(1) so it recurses inside the > same process, instead of launching a new process for every > submakefile (or maybe it already does that? I don't know). Another > possibility would be making it possible to determine some static > configuration, say, a ports version number, quicker, without having > to call make (I realize that with things like slave ports, even a > version number is not that static. Maybe there could be a fallback > for those cases?). Another possibility would be moving to a binary > DB right away, relying on tools to extract the information. This > would make cvsup difficult though. The other efficiency thing is > the number of files in /usr/ports now. There's *a lot* of them. > > - Searching. Personally, I strongly dislike make search because its > way too verbose. Search results easily fill several screenfuls, > and grepping it is not trivial. I've worked around this one by > creating a tool that writes grep-able sub-indexes to disk in a more > concise format, the tool's available here: > http://www.maxlor.com/freebsd-scripts.shtml > > I think that's all I can think of. Although this is a lot of text, > please remember that I was just more or less letting my thoughts > flow. I like the ports very much, and I meant in no way to > criticize or attack anyone or anyone's work in particular. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 22 05:59:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A9A16A41F for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 05:59:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from itetcu@people.tecnik93.com) Received: from relay.rdsnet.ro (gimli.rdsnet.ro [193.231.236.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6CFFA43D45 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 05:59:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from itetcu@people.tecnik93.com) Received: (qmail 6331 invoked from network); 22 Oct 2005 05:59:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.rdsnet.ro) (62.231.74.130) by smtp1-133.rdsnet.ro with SMTP; 22 Oct 2005 05:59:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 17961 invoked by uid 89); 22 Oct 2005 05:59:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO it.buh.tecnik93.com) (81.196.204.98) by 0 with SMTP; 22 Oct 2005 05:59:55 -0000 Received: from it.buh.tecnik93.com (localhost.buh.tecnik93.com [127.0.0.1]) by it.buh.tecnik93.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EDE6115F6; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 08:59:55 +0300 (EEST) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 08:59:54 +0300 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu To: Benjamin Lutz Message-ID: <20051022085954.5ef9d2ff@it.buh.tecnik93.com> In-Reply-To: <435825F8.4020305@datacomm.ch> References: <4357D830.7060506@swehack.se> <435825F8.4020305@datacomm.ch> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.12 (GTK+ 2.6.8; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: nocturnal , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flaws in the ports system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 05:59:59 -0000 On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 01:19:20 +0200 Benjamin Lutz wrote: > nocturnal wrote: > > This is a very low priority discussion but i was just wondering if > > there are any known design flaws in the ports system or other > > reasons for the ports to be replaced by a new system. > > They work well, more or less, and certainly as intended. There's a > couple of things though that I think are not solved optimally: [ Support for different versions of a software package. ... ] > - Configuration management. This is hard to get right, but I don't > think that simply littering /usr/local/etc with .sample files is the > best way to solve it. I've seen some infrastructure in place to > automagically merge config file changes, but I didn't notice it > being used so far. As it is, upgrading daemons means lots of manual > labour (scanning the sample config file for changes, or even redoing > the configuration from scratch), which every admin has to do, and > which could maybe be pooled so the port maintainer does most of it, > and the users could simply say y/n a few times in a tool like > mergemaster. Without support from upstream (a nice example is postfix) fully automating this is nearly impossible. More, the way the things are in this regard might be good as it forces the sysadmin to read (and supposedly understand :) the changes in the new version. > - Mirror selection. For us europeans, the US sourceforge mirror which > is used by a lot of ports by default is very slow. It is possible to Work is being done in this area. Perhaps the biggest problem for finding the fastest mirror for each distfile is that you have to relay on things outside the ports system and because of this any sollution isn't likely to be included in the *.mk's > override the mirror selection by setting some variables in > make.conf, but it's far from apparent how to do so, or that it is > even possible. Please submit a patch for Handbook / ports(7) / .... > Additionally, while fetch seems to have some support > for resuming interrupted downloads, often enough a partial or > corrupted existing distfile leads to fetch doing nothing at all. The > solution is easy, just delete the existing distfile, but the tools > don't hint at that. > > - Speed. The ports use of makefiles as prime mechanism makes it very > flexible, but given the sheer number of ports we have by now, it's > also become slow. Building an INDEX takes forever, and pkg_version > is painful to use on slow machines. A result of that is that we now > have a number of add-on tools that speed up things with binary dbs > and caches, however I consider those a work-around, not a solution. > Basically, I think that the current system doesn't scale too well. > One possibility I can think of that alleviates the problem a bit > without changing the existing structure (there's this POLA thing I > guess) is changing make(1) so it recurses inside the same process, > instead of launching a new process for every submakefile (or maybe > it already does that? I don't know). Another possibility would be There has been some work in this area and the seed has substantially increase in the last 2 years, but of course there's space for more. The work however is far from being trivial. > making it possible to determine some static configuration, say, a > ports version number, quicker, without having to call make (I > realize that with things like slave ports, even a version number is > not that static. Maybe there could be a fallback for those cases?). > Another possibility would be moving to a binary DB right away, > relying on tools to extract the information. This would make cvsup > difficult though. No, thank you. Personally I don't like spending time around windows registry. -- IOnut Unregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" "Intellectual Property" is nowhere near as valuable as "Intellect" From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 22 06:11:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21DE516A41F for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 06:11:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from itetcu@people.tecnik93.com) Received: from relay.rdsnet.ro (gimli.rdsnet.ro [193.231.236.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2AD0D43D45 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 06:11:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from itetcu@people.tecnik93.com) Received: (qmail 7808 invoked from network); 22 Oct 2005 06:11:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.rdsnet.ro) (62.231.74.130) by smtp1-133.rdsnet.ro with SMTP; 22 Oct 2005 06:11:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 19039 invoked by uid 89); 22 Oct 2005 06:11:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO it.buh.tecnik93.com) (81.196.204.98) by 0 with SMTP; 22 Oct 2005 06:11:06 -0000 Received: from it.buh.tecnik93.com (localhost.buh.tecnik93.com [127.0.0.1]) by it.buh.tecnik93.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C78115F6; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 09:11:06 +0300 (EEST) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 09:11:06 +0300 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu To: Vulpes Velox Message-ID: <20051022091106.60a597d7@it.buh.tecnik93.com> In-Reply-To: <20051022005642.6b15e0f7@vixen42.vulpes> References: <4357D830.7060506@swehack.se> <435825F8.4020305@datacomm.ch> <20051022005642.6b15e0f7@vixen42.vulpes> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.12 (GTK+ 2.6.8; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Benjamin Lutz , nocturnal , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flaws in the ports system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 06:11:10 -0000 On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 00:56:42 -0500 Vulpes Velox wrote: > On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 01:19:20 +0200 > Benjamin Lutz wrote: > > > nocturnal wrote: > > > This is a very low priority discussion but i was just wondering > > > if there are any known design flaws in the ports system or other > > > reasons for the ports to be replaced by a new system. > > > > They work well, more or less, and certainly as intended. There's a > > couple of things though that I think are not solved optimally: [ Support for different versions of a software package. ... ] > > - Configuration management. This is hard to get right, but I don't > > think that simply littering /usr/local/etc with .sample files is > > the best way to solve it. I've seen some infrastructure in place to > > automagically merge config file changes, but I didn't notice it > > being used so far. As it is, upgrading daemons means lots of manual > > labour (scanning the sample config file for changes, or even > > redoing the configuration from scratch), which every admin has to > > do, and which could maybe be pooled so the port maintainer does > > most of it, and the users could simply say y/n a few times in a > > tool like mergemaster. > > Interactive ports are insanely annoying. I honestly would love to see > the crap like that done away with in most cases. After I finish a few config-recursive for OPTIONS ports > projects, I am actually planning on figuring out a way rework that > in a lot nicer manner than most of the interactive stuff popping up > the damn menu is currently done. When I have the time, I plan to > solve this. What I want is this, a enviromental variable to tell it > to use the defaults, if possible, and if not to skip it. Then a BATCH=yes ? If any port which doesn't set INTERACTIVE doesn't obey it then that port needs to be fixed. > command to get a list of supported settings that that port uses. *If* all interactive ports would be using OPTIONS show-config would be enough (not counting vars that can be set by users like HOME_DIR=....) -- IOnut Unregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" "Intellectual Property" is nowhere near as valuable as "Intellect" From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 22 09:13:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5BDF16A41F for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 09:13:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@builder.freebsd.org) Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.freebsd.org [216.136.204.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79E3443D4C for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 09:13:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@builder.freebsd.org) Received: from builder.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by builder.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9M9DeXP074681 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 09:13:40 GMT (envelope-from kris@builder.freebsd.org) Received: (from kris@localhost) by builder.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9M9De3m074680 for ports@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 09:13:40 GMT (envelope-from kris) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 09:13:40 GMT From: Kris Kennaway Message-Id: <200510220913.j9M9De3m074680@builder.freebsd.org> To: ports@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: INDEX build failed for 4.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 09:13:40 -0000 INDEX build failed with errors: Generating INDEX - please wait..gpctool-1.0.1: "/local0/tmp/kris/tindex/ports/devel/gpc" non-existent -- dependency list incomplete ===> x11/gpctool failed *** Error code 1 *** Error code 1 Stop in /local0/tmp/kris/tindex/ports. *** Error code 1 Stop in /local0/tmp/kris/tindex/ports. 1 error Committers on the hook: ahze kris mi thierry vs wes Most recent CVS update was: U lang/snobol/files/patch-Makefile2.m4 U multimedia/gstreamer-plugins-all/Makefile U www/tidy-devel/Makefile U www/tidy-devel/distinfo U x11/Makefile U x11/gpctool/Makefile U x11/gpctool/distinfo U x11/gpctool/pkg-descr U x11/gpctool/files/.BSDmakefile.swo U x11/gpctool/files/.BSDmakefile.swp U x11/gpctool/files/BSDmakefile U x11/gpctool/files/patch-includes U x11-clocks/astime/Makefile U x11-toolkits/soqt/Makefile From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 22 09:16:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.Org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD23116A41F; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 09:16:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joris@vandalon.nl) Received: from toxic.vandalon.nl (toxic.vandalon.nl [213.196.7.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7589C43D4C; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 09:16:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joris@vandalon.nl) Received: from localhost (toxic.vandalon.nl [213.196.7.150]) by toxic.vandalon.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A82EF711873; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 11:16:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from toxic.vandalon.nl ([213.196.7.150]) by localhost (toxic.vandalon.nl [213.196.7.150]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 91915-07; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 11:16:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.0.0.10] (ip5457542b.direct-adsl.nl [84.87.84.43]) (using SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by toxic.vandalon.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E9A71180B; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 11:16:37 +0200 (CEST) From: Joris Vandalon To: ports@FreeBSD.Org In-Reply-To: <200510211932.j9LJWoTS079197@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <200510211932.j9LJWoTS079197@freefall.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 11:16:30 +0200 Message-Id: <1129972590.571.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at vandalon.nl Cc: Bill distfiles Fenner Subject: Re: FreeBSD ports: 1 unfetchable distfile: audio/mp3c X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 09:16:46 -0000 On Fri, 2005-10-21 at 19:32 +0000, Bill "distfiles" Fenner wrote: > Dear joris@vandalon.nl, > > You are listed as the FreeBSD port maintainer for 1 port > whose distfiles are not fetchable from their MASTER_SITES. Could > you please visit > > http://people.freebsd.org/~fenner/portsurvey/joris@vandalon.nl.html > > and correct the problems listed there? The individual port with > a problem is audio/mp3c. Hi Bill, I just tried and install the port, this went without any issues. Could this been an temporary error? Cheers, Joris From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 22 09:18:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.Org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4061816A41F; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 09:18:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joris@vandalon.nl) Received: from toxic.vandalon.nl (toxic.vandalon.nl [213.196.7.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C772043D55; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 09:18:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joris@vandalon.nl) Received: from localhost (toxic.vandalon.nl [213.196.7.150]) by toxic.vandalon.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B133711873; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 11:18:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from toxic.vandalon.nl ([213.196.7.150]) by localhost (toxic.vandalon.nl [213.196.7.150]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 92711-07; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 11:18:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.0.0.10] (ip5457542b.direct-adsl.nl [84.87.84.43]) (using SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by toxic.vandalon.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB4571180B; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 11:18:27 +0200 (CEST) From: Joris Vandalon To: ports@FreeBSD.Org In-Reply-To: <1129972590.571.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <200510211932.j9LJWoTS079197@freefall.freebsd.org> <1129972590.571.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 11:18:21 +0200 Message-Id: <1129972701.571.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at vandalon.nl Cc: Bill distfiles Fenner Subject: Re: FreeBSD ports: 1 unfetchable distfile: audio/mp3c X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 09:18:33 -0000 On Sat, 2005-10-22 at 11:16 +0200, Joris Vandalon wrote: > On Fri, 2005-10-21 at 19:32 +0000, Bill "distfiles" Fenner wrote: > > Dear joris@vandalon.nl, > > > > You are listed as the FreeBSD port maintainer for 1 port > > whose distfiles are not fetchable from their MASTER_SITES. Could > > you please visit > > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~fenner/portsurvey/joris@vandalon.nl.html > > > > and correct the problems listed there? The individual port with > > a problem is audio/mp3c. > > Hi Bill, > > I just tried and install the port, this went without any issues. > Could this been an temporary error? Never mind my previous message, I wasn't paying attention. Cheers, Joris From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 22 09:23:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4AE516A41F; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 09:23:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbq@caraldi.com) Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr (smtp6-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7027643D55; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 09:23:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbq@caraldi.com) Received: from watt.caraldi.com (unknown [62.147.117.152]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB3194F6; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 11:23:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: by watt.caraldi.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 966F412E; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 11:23:28 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 11:23:28 +0200 From: Jean-Baptiste Quenot To: freebsd-ports Message-ID: <20051022092325.GB1420@watt.intra.caraldi.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-ports , Vsevolod Stakhov Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: mutt-ng devel (FreeBSD) Cc: Vsevolod Stakhov Subject: Mutt-ng list-reply broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 09:23:31 -0000 Note: maintainer address bounces Hello, Thank you for maintaining mutt-ng on FreeBSD, this is great software. There was a recent [1]discussion on muttng mailing lists about the list-reply function that is currently broken. This has been [2]fixed on october 13th, so updating the snapshot on FreeBSD would be great. Thanks in advance, -- Jean-Baptiste Quenot http://caraldi.com/jbq/ [1] https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/mutt-ng-users/2005-October/000512.html [2] https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/mutt-ng-devel/2005-October/001313.html From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 22 09:26:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11D1C16A41F; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 09:26:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5311243D58; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 09:26:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9M9QJ2V072363; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 11:26:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost.blackend.org [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9M9QInN000619; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 11:26:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j9M9QIpX000618; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 11:26:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 11:26:18 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Alan Amesbury Message-ID: <20051022092618.GA597@gothic.blackend.org> References: <20051021155256.GA3726@nemesis.indefi.net> <20051021161350.GC597@gothic.blackend.org> <43592FD5.1030102@umn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43592FD5.1030102@umn.edu> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: ports@freebsd.org, doceng@freebsd.org Subject: Re: textproc/docproj broken; failed dependency X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 09:26:22 -0000 On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 01:13:41PM -0500, Alan Amesbury wrote: > > *DOH!* I looked in .../ports/distfiles/ for the file in question, not > in .../ports/distfiles/ghostscript/ when I checked ftp.freebsd.org. > Sorry for being a bonehead on that. > > >Ports people will take care of this master sites issue soon. > > > > > > Cool. Thanks! > Yes, there is an automated script that detects non-fetchable distfiles problem. Marc From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 22 10:07:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE76116A41F for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 10:07:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from schweikh@schweikhardt.net) Received: from bremen.shuttle.de (bremen.shuttle.de [194.95.249.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3464843D4C for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 10:07:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from schweikh@schweikhardt.net) Received: by bremen.shuttle.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 1CA7E3B90A; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 12:07:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hal9000.schweikhardt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hal9000.schweikhardt.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9MA7VTI030130; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 12:07:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schweikh@hal9000.schweikhardt.net) Received: (from schweikh@localhost) by hal9000.schweikhardt.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j9MA7VPk030129; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 12:07:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schweikh) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 12:07:31 +0200 From: Jens Schweikhardt To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20051022100731.GA1767@schweikhardt.net> References: <200510220913.j9M9De3m074680@builder.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200510220913.j9M9De3m074680@builder.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: INDEX build failed for 4.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 10:07:51 -0000 On Sat, Oct 22, 2005 at 09:13:40AM +0000, Kris Kennaway wrote: # INDEX build failed with errors: # Generating INDEX - please wait..gpctool-1.0.1: "/local0/tmp/kris/tindex/ports/devel/gpc" non-existent -- dependency list incomplete # ===> x11/gpctool failed # *** Error code 1 # *** Error code 1 # # Stop in /local0/tmp/kris/tindex/ports. # *** Error code 1 # # Stop in /local0/tmp/kris/tindex/ports. # 1 error # # Committers on the hook: # ahze kris mi thierry vs wes # # Most recent CVS update was: # U lang/snobol/files/patch-Makefile2.m4 # U multimedia/gstreamer-plugins-all/Makefile # U www/tidy-devel/Makefile # U www/tidy-devel/distinfo # U x11/Makefile # U x11/gpctool/Makefile # U x11/gpctool/distinfo # U x11/gpctool/pkg-descr # U x11/gpctool/files/.BSDmakefile.swo # U x11/gpctool/files/.BSDmakefile.swp ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This looks weird... vim meta files slipped in? Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 22 12:23:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DAF516A41F for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 12:23:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rmh@aybabtu.com) Received: from khazad.dyndns.org (216.red-62-57-140.user.auna.net [62.57.140.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E0A43D45 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 12:23:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rmh@aybabtu.com) Received: from rmh by khazad.dyndns.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1ETIPC-0002u5-77 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 14:23:22 +0200 Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 14:23:21 +0200 From: Robert Millan To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051022122321.GA11102@aragorn> References: <20051018140137.GA16159@aragorn> <20051018200544.GA26528@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <200510192246.j9JMkUIj013329@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <20051020104328.GA1150@aragorn> <20051021184111.GA8951@saturn.kn-bremen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051021184111.GA8951@saturn.kn-bremen.de> Sender: Robert Millan Organisation: free as in freedom User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i Subject: Re: gzip-like CLI wrapper for p7zip X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 12:23:13 -0000 On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 08:41:11PM +0200, Juergen Lock wrote: > > Please let me know if you add that wrapper script. > > Well, because a `proper' p7zip executable could check the file type > and thus still support existing files in the old non-stream-aware > compressed format (I somehow overlooked this simple fact :) we can > leave this for others to decide and just add the preliminary script. > So, yes, I have just submitted the patch I posted here. Uhm perhaps I'm confused, but, looks like mnag forgot to run "cvs add" before committing. -- Robert Millan From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 22 12:59:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6243716A41F for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 12:59:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED02E43D49 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 12:59:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 8so371942nzo for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 05:59:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=T2SjxBUmrdHeGLx8s/aZ0iTptnEK0qyTxYDrCqDkJpUCKw8A9BoG+aDG4yLRPqWWIDqh3d8YOVHYOYcf6f9d0KJHBE5i2UlMf2vAfJ6QRQh4XeH0EB6Tg02phtNVNwlTQw34aua40Gal704lDZG+va3HWAoYGaSXKSXNqz3VwJI= Received: by 10.36.74.10 with SMTP id w10mr3894031nza; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 05:59:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.37.20.34 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 05:59:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 16:59:39 +0400 From: "Andrew P." To: Robert Millan In-Reply-To: <20051022122321.GA11102@aragorn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20051018140137.GA16159@aragorn> <20051018200544.GA26528@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <200510192246.j9JMkUIj013329@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <20051020104328.GA1150@aragorn> <20051021184111.GA8951@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <20051022122321.GA11102@aragorn> Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gzip-like CLI wrapper for p7zip X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 12:59:40 -0000 On 10/22/05, Robert Millan wrote: > On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 08:41:11PM +0200, Juergen Lock wrote: > > > Please let me know if you add that wrapper script. > > > > Well, because a `proper' p7zip executable could check the file type > > and thus still support existing files in the old non-stream-aware > > compressed format (I somehow overlooked this simple fact :) we can > > leave this for others to decide and just add the preliminary script. > > So, yes, I have just submitted the patch I posted here. > > Uhm perhaps I'm confused, but, looks like mnag forgot to run "cvs add" be= fore > committing. > > -- > Robert Millan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Looks like that from here, too. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 22 13:08:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA5216A41F for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:08:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@builder.freebsd.org) Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.freebsd.org [216.136.204.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D73743D49 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:08:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@builder.freebsd.org) Received: from builder.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by builder.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9MD8Nn7049165 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:08:24 GMT (envelope-from kris@builder.freebsd.org) Received: (from kris@localhost) by builder.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9MD8ND3049163 for ports@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:08:23 GMT (envelope-from kris) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:08:23 GMT From: Kris Kennaway Message-Id: <200510221308.j9MD8ND3049163@builder.freebsd.org> To: ports@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: INDEX now builds successfully on 4.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:08:24 -0000 From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 22 13:47:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7537816A41F for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:47:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ekarkkai@pp.htv.fi) Received: from smtp2.pp.htv.fi (smtp2.pp.htv.fi [213.243.153.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8924043D49 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:47:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ekarkkai@pp.htv.fi) Received: from cs181097070.pp.htv.fi (cs181097070.pp.htv.fi [82.181.97.70]) by smtp2.pp.htv.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F7D9296C01; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 16:47:03 +0300 (EEST) Received: from thunderbolt.my.domain (thunderbolt.my.domain [10.192.168.30]) by cs181097070.pp.htv.fi (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9MDl2lC055189; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 16:47:02 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ekarkkai@pp.htv.fi) Received: from thunderbolt.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thunderbolt.my.domain (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9MDl290024973; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 16:47:02 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ejk@thunderbolt.my.domain) Received: (from ejk@localhost) by thunderbolt.my.domain (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j9MDl1Zu024972; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 16:47:01 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ejk) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 16:47:01 +0300 From: Esa Karkkainen To: Benjamin Lutz Message-ID: <20051022134701.GA14596@pp.htv.fi> Mail-Followup-To: Benjamin Lutz , nocturnal , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <4357D830.7060506@swehack.se> <435825F8.4020305@datacomm.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <435825F8.4020305@datacomm.ch> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: nocturnal , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flaws in the ports system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:47:09 -0000 On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 01:19:20AM +0200, Benjamin Lutz wrote: > - Mirror selection. For us europeans, the US sourceforge mirror which > is used by a lot of ports by default is very slow. It is possible to > override the mirror selection by setting some variables in make.conf, > but it's far from apparent how to do so, or that it is even possible. > Additionally, while fetch seems to have some support for resuming > interrupted downloads, often enough a partial or corrupted existing > distfile leads to fetch doing nothing at all. The solution is easy, > just delete the existing distfile, but the tools don't hint at that. I've been using a couple of "tricks" in my /etc/make.conf, which I've cut&pasted to this e-mail. By defining MASTER_SORT_REGEX you can have MASTER_SITES sorted to suite your needs. Here's mine. MASTER_SORT_REGEX?= ://[^/]*\.fi[/.] ://[^/]*\.se[/.] ://[^/]*\.uk[/.] ://[^/]*\.eu[/.] ://[^/]*\.no[/.] ://[^/]*\.dk[/.] ://[^/]*\.de[/.] You can add your own mirror sites too. And I've found few local mirrors, which do not always have the latest files, but download speeds are quite impressive in my case ;-) MASTER_SITE_MOZILLA+= \ ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.mozilla.org/%SUBDIR%/ MASTER_SITE_XFREE+= ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/XFree86/%SUBDIR%/source/ You'll find all common sites defined in /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.sites.mk file. -- "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." -- Douglas Adams 1952 - 2001 From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 22 15:11:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FC2F16A445 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 15:11:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from www.ebusiness-leidinger.de (jojo.ms-net.de [84.16.236.246]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D505A43D48 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 15:11:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from Andro-Beta.Leidinger.net (p54A5E7DC.dip.t-dialin.net [84.165.231.220]) (authenticated bits=0) by www.ebusiness-leidinger.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9MEqgWA008467; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 16:52:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from Magellan.Leidinger.net (Magellan.Leidinger.net [192.168.1.1]) by Andro-Beta.Leidinger.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9MFBRAr087204; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 17:11:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 17:11:27 +0200 From: Alexander Leidinger To: "" Message-ID: <20051022171127.12c49f8d@Magellan.Leidinger.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.15 (GTK+ 2.6.10; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: games/linux-steam X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 15:11:36 -0000 On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:22:52 -0500 "" wrote: > Looks like this port needs linux dependency added as far as I can tell. It depends already but not as a BUILD_DEPENDS... Should be fixed now. Bye, Alexander. -- "One world, one web, one program" -- Microsoft promotional ad "Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fuehrer" -- Adolf Hitler http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net GPG fingerprint = C518 BC70 E67F 143F BE91 3365 79E2 9C60 B006 3FE7 From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 22 15:56:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 526B516A421 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 15:56:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com (dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com [68.99.120.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7271543D5E for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 15:56:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dns1 ([64.58.171.82]) by dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051022155644.KCAV6953.dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com@dns1>; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 11:56:44 -0400 From: Vizion To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:14:22 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> <20051021235950.GB15030@isis.sigpipe.cz> <20051022032536.GA28662@soaustin.net> In-Reply-To: <20051022032536.GA28662@soaustin.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510212214.24315.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> Cc: Mark Linimon Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 15:56:43 -0000 On Friday 21 October 2005 20:25, the author Mark Linimon contributed to the dialogue on- Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports: >On Sat, Oct 22, 2005 at 01:59:50AM +0200, Roman Neuhauser wrote: >> The build cluster automation shouldn't limit the utility of ports. >> BTW, are the scripts publicly available? I don't see anything on >> http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/ or >> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ >> If I wanted to update the build cluster code, where would I get it? > >If you don't understand the extent of that code, I can see how easy it >might be for you to assume that it's easy to work with. > >Please see ports/Tools/portbuild. Also you will be rewriting the >marcusom tinderbox at tinderbox.marcuscom.com as well. I do not know >under what license the FreshPorts code is. > >> portsmon is your software, and keeping it hostage to changes in >> ports is IMO unethical. As I have pointed out elsewhere I think Mark's accusation is both unfair and totally unwarranted - it only diverts attentions from some good point that he makes. > >What I am _implying_ is that a lot of work has to be done to make it >work, II think everyone knows that >and that I _personally_ am not going to make it a priority to >rewrite it based on someone's pet blue-sky idea. OK but I do not think it helps not to recognize that there are difficulties with the existing system and maybe if you appeared more accepting of the critics of the system and less inclined to personalize the issue maybe those of us who see things differently to you would see you as a potential ally rather than an obstacle to change. > >The fact that you would charge someone like me who has put literally >HUNDREDS of hours into that system -- for his own personal internal >movtivation, there are no extrinsic rewards -- with being unethical is >a complete and total outrage. As far as I am concerned this gives me >complete permission to just ignore anything you have to say after this >point. You have apparently missed a key underlying principle of this >project: that it's a _volunteer_ project and you cannot _compel_ a >volunteer to go work on anything that they are not personally interested >in working on. I do not think anyone has suggested you should do that - but I hear that wondering if that is what they think is painful to you. > >If you don't like this, the code is available under BSDL. Grab a >copy, install it yourself, rewrite it, run it, and claim your solution >obsoletes mine. That's the "BSD way". But if you insist that I do all >that just on your whim, you're going to be out of luck. (And, along the >way, you might find out how much work is already going into maintaining >it -- work, like much of what goes into the ports collection, that goes >on, unheralded, behind the scenes -- unlike all the bikeshedding like >this that goes on in public and what people seem so impressed by, >despite the fact that, in general, nothing actually gets accomplished). Public discussion do0es achieve something -- maybe if there was more discussion before any coding was done we would not have limitations hard-wired into code in a way that limits freebsd's ability to meet future unforeseen needs. I see this discussion as a valuable contribution by all participants to freebsd. > >I simply don't have the free time to rewrite it _and_ work on all the >other priorities to which I have currently, and in the past, put so much >time into on this project -- ones, as far as I am concerned, will have >a much higher impact on the usability of the system. So maybe you could find ways of using your knowledge of the existing system to indicate a whether partial re-engineering is possible or a clean slate approach is required > >Before you get all the above done, I might even be able to _prototype_ >some kind of better search mechanism and solve the more useful part of >the problem. To me, it would clearly take far less time to do so. I agree - but I do not see it as more than a solution of a subsidiary problem rather than the core problem. That does not imply that a better search mechanism would not be valuable for the short to medium term. > >However, as far as I'm concerned, you've destroyed your own credibility >with what I've quoted above, I hope you will not let Mark's ill-chosen and unjustified accusation divert you from contributing your constructive contributions to this debate. The issues for the community are more important that our individual struggles. david -- 40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Taurus. Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing bound for Europe via Panama Canal after completing engineroom refit. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 22 17:19:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9568E16A41F for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 17:19:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from richard@hirner.at) Received: from lenin.adaxas.net (83-64-231-2.klausgasse.xdsl-line.inode.at [83.64.231.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D560F43D45 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 17:19:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from richard@hirner.at) Received: from lenin.adaxas.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lenin.adaxas.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9MHJP7C019330 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 22 Oct 2005 19:19:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from richard@hirner.at) Received: (from richard@localhost) by lenin.adaxas.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j9MHJNTw019329; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 19:19:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from richard@hirner.at) X-Authentication-Warning: lenin.adaxas.net: richard set sender to richard@hirner.at using -f Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 19:19:23 +0200 From: Richard Hirner To: steven@honson.org Message-ID: <20051022171923.GA19285@hirner.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.87, clamav-milter version 0.87 on lenin.adaxas.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD Port: dnsmasq-2.22_1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 17:19:27 -0000 Hello, There is an error when compiling dnsmasq-2.22_1 with WITHOUT_IPV6=yes set in make.conf: --------------------------------------------- -su-2.05b# make ===> Building for dnsmasq-2.22_1 env: -DNO_IPV6: No such file or directory *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/dns/dnsmasq. --------------------------------------------- I'm not sure, but I think that "MAKE_ENV += -DNO_IPV6" thing should sound like "CFLAGS += -DNO_IPV6". Richard From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 22 18:39:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FAE616A41F for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 18:39:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@chillt.de) Received: from dd2718.kasserver.com (dd2718.kasserver.com [81.209.184.159]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1795543D49 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 18:39:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@chillt.de) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (dslb-084-061-117-210.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.117.210]) by dd2718.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC65F13378 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 20:39:24 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <435A8757.1090609@chillt.de> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 20:39:19 +0200 From: Bartosz Fabianowski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20050930) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Port PR stuck in feedback state X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 18:39:27 -0000 Hi list I am looking for a bit of advice regarding a ports PR I filed. My PR, ports/86766, was taken and later released by az@, who unfortunately didn't have time to commit it first. The problem is that he put the PR into feedback state and even though I answered his feedback request, he forgot to change it back to open. Now, nobody seems to want to take the PR because they assume it's still waiting for the feedback to be answered. Is there someone who can reset the PR back to open so it can be taken by someone else and committed? Where would I go looking for such a person? - Bartosz From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 22 19:40:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 964AC16A41F for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 19:40:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B8D743D45 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 19:40:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id BA9553048; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 14:40:49 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 14:40:49 -0500 To: Bartosz Fabianowski Message-ID: <20051022194049.GB28367@soaustin.net> References: <435A8757.1090609@chillt.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <435A8757.1090609@chillt.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port PR stuck in feedback state X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 19:40:51 -0000 On Sat, Oct 22, 2005 at 08:39:19PM +0200, Bartosz Fabianowski wrote: > Is there someone who can reset the PR back to open so it can be taken > by someone else and committed? You can always email bugmeister@FreeBSD.org and one of us on the team that looks after the PR database will grab it. I've fixed this one. mcl