From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 15 09:29:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBED116A4CE; Sun, 15 May 2005 09:29:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp2.server.rpi.edu (smtp2.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED0D43D49; Sun, 15 May 2005 09:29:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp2.server.rpi.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j4F9TFwW015180; Sun, 15 May 2005 05:29:16 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200505140211.j4E2Bkrv039274@repoman.freebsd.org> References: <200505140211.j4E2Bkrv039274@repoman.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 05:29:15 -0400 To: Peter Grehan , freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.org From: Garance A Drosihn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-CanItPRO-Stream: default X-RPI-SA-Score: undef - spam-scanning disabled X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . canit . ca) on 128.113.2.2 Subject: Re: CD/DVD drive on Mac-mini! X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 09:29:19 -0000 In the cvs-commit logs, I noticed that Peter Grehan wrote: > > Modified files: > sys/powerpc/powermac ata_kauai.c > > Log: > Remove incorrect configuration setting that limited the Kauai ATA > controller to be master-only. The slave ATAPI drive on the Mac-Mini > is now recognised. And indeed, dmesg on my Mac-mini now knows about: acd0: DVDR at ata1-slave BIOSPIO Thanks muchly! This should make CD-installs much easier... :-) -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 15 11:30:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A5F216A4CE for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 11:30:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C3D43D2D for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 11:30:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.13.71.95] (CPE-71-95.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.13.71.95]) j4FBUDnP050953; Sun, 15 May 2005 21:30:15 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <428732B8.3090903@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 21:30:00 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andreas Tobler References: <42863EC5.9000603@pop.agri.ch> In-Reply-To: <42863EC5.9000603@pop.agri.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netbooting issues linux server, fbsd client X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 11:30:19 -0000 > Now my problem, is there something missing in Peter's kernel? Or does > something has changed since dec 04 in regard of nfs and write permissions? I just noticed that I can't upgrade an NFS root mount to r/w in single-user mode, so maybe there's something in the recent phk mount stuff that broke this. I'll look into it. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 15 11:31:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E4016A4CE for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 11:31:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A53F43D6A for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 11:31:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.13.71.95] (CPE-71-95.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.13.71.95]) j4FBVCnP050956; Sun, 15 May 2005 21:31:13 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <428732F3.4040804@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 21:30:59 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Garance A Drosihn References: <200505140211.j4E2Bkrv039274@repoman.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CD/DVD drive on Mac-mini! X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 11:31:15 -0000 > And indeed, dmesg on my Mac-mini now knows about: > > acd0: DVDR at ata1-slave BIOSPIO Try a 'dd if=/dev/acd0 of=/dev/null' with a few ctl-T's, and then compare against /dev/ad0 to see how slow the hard drive is :( later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 16 08:30:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F36516A4D0; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:30:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.xbsd.org (xbsd.org [82.233.2.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B89BB43DCA; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:30:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flz@xbsd.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.xbsd.org [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.xbsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA6AA11B3A; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:31:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.xbsd.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (srv1.xbsd.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 61212-01; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:31:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.20.107] (ALagny-109-1-6-62.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.23.62]) by smtp.xbsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AE1811AD6; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:31:04 +0200 (CEST) From: Florent Thoumie To: Peter Grehan In-Reply-To: <42840CEF.4000200@freebsd.org> References: <42840CEF.4000200@freebsd.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-kvZ8fekkcpoZSjkR3uWZ" Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 10:30:15 +0200 Message-Id: <1116232215.712.4.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at xbsd.org cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD from CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 08:30:25 -0000 --=-kvZ8fekkcpoZSjkR3uWZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Vendredi 13 mai 2005 =E0 12:11 +1000, Peter Grehan a =E9crit : > Hi Michael, >=20 > > Failing that, I concluded that it would be easiest to mount the=20 > > PowerBook (Pismo) in FireWire "target disk mode" on an x86 system from=20 > > which I can partition and install software either from install ISO=20 > > binaries or source. > >=20 > > Assumption: UFS2 under x86 will be the same as UFS2 under PowerPC. Flaw= ed? >=20 > Yes :( The FreeBSD UFS code will only work on the endian type that=20 > created the filesystem. (NetBSD can be compiled to do this - it detects=20 > the disk endian and byte-swaps appropriately). PPC and i386 won't be=20 > able to read a UFS volume created by the other. I thought PPC could work in both endian modes (31th or 63th bit=20 of MSR), that would mean FreeBSD/ppc could read UFS volumes=20 created by FreeBSD/i386 but not the opposite. Please tell me if I'm wrong. --=20 Florent Thoumie flz@xbsd.org --=-kvZ8fekkcpoZSjkR3uWZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCiFoXMxEkbVFH3PQRAntyAJ9EwYF6f4fzw+U8tENbojFW11Oc3wCfSbT3 gdKx3wpyTrWDOjqdWl5y1b8= =CRzY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-kvZ8fekkcpoZSjkR3uWZ-- From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 16 09:06:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D000716A4CE for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:06:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 353AA43D77 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:06:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.13.71.95] (CPE-71-95.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.13.71.95]) j4G96BnP054409; Mon, 16 May 2005 19:06:11 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <42886275.4010906@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 19:05:57 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Florent Thoumie References: <427D6568.3010505@freebsd.org> <42840CEF.4000200@freebsd.org> <1116232215.712.4.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1116232215.712.4.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD from CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 09:06:14 -0000 Hi Florent, > I thought PPC could work in both endian modes (31th or 63th bit > of MSR), that would mean FreeBSD/ppc could read UFS volumes > created by FreeBSD/i386 but not the opposite. > > Please tell me if I'm wrong. Little-endian mode has varying degress of support on different processor models (e.g. none on the G5). Like it or not, PowerPC == big endian. The real fix for UFS interoperability is the NetBSD approach, but that has a complexity in making sure that *all* metadata reads/writes are appropriately swapped. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 16 10:28:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8695716A4D0 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:28:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.vide.lv (mail.vide.lv [213.175.69.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2DD8443D91 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:28:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dexter@ambidexter.com) Received: (qmail 14687 invoked from network); 16 May 2005 09:28:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.101?) (213.175.79.146) by mail.vide.lv with SMTP; 16 May 2005 09:28:49 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1116232215.712.4.camel@localhost> References: <42840CEF.4000200@freebsd.org> <1116232215.712.4.camel@localhost> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 13:28:32 +0300 To: Florent Thoumie From: Michael Dexter Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD from CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 10:28:35 -0000 > > Yes :( The FreeBSD UFS code will only work on the endian type that >> created the filesystem. (NetBSD can be compiled to do this - it detects >> the disk endian and byte-swaps appropriately). PPC and i386 won't be >> able to read a UFS volume created by the other. > > I thought PPC could work in both endian modes (31th or 63th bit > of MSR), that would mean FreeBSD/ppc could read UFS volumes > created by FreeBSD/i386 but not the opposite. > > Please tell me if I'm wrong. Alas, I did not get FreeBSD PPC running to verify. Note the NetBSD endian detection and also note that the G5 does not support pseudo little endian mode. This hit Virtual PC users the hardest: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;827904 I'm not sure how MS solved this one but apparently they have. Michael. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 16 20:30:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11F9716A4D1; Mon, 16 May 2005 20:30:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.messaging.ch (exsmtp02.agrinet.ch [81.221.252.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E74743DAF; Mon, 16 May 2005 20:30:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from toa@pop.agri.ch) Received: from [192.168.225.5] ([80.218.0.93]) by mail.messaging.ch with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 16 May 2005 22:30:29 +0200 Message-ID: <428902E0.60005@pop.agri.ch> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 22:30:24 +0200 From: Andreas Tobler User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Macintosh/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Grehan References: <42863EC5.9000603@pop.agri.ch> <428732B8.3090903@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <428732B8.3090903@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 May 2005 20:30:29.0534 (UTC) FILETIME=[19BB9BE0:01C55A56] cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netbooting issues linux server, fbsd client X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 20:30:38 -0000 Peter Grehan wrote: >> Now my problem, is there something missing in Peter's kernel? Or does >> something has changed since dec 04 in regard of nfs and write >> permissions? > > > I just noticed that I can't upgrade an NFS root mount to r/w in > single-user mode, so maybe there's something in the recent phk mount > stuff that broke this. I'll look into it. you mean this one ? http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2004-December/003231.html Just try to find my bits of information. Andreas From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 16 23:06:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1952C16A4CE; Mon, 16 May 2005 23:06:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [205.211.164.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A6043DC9; Mon, 16 May 2005 23:06:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp2.sentex.ca (smtp2.sentex.ca [199.212.134.9]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j4GN6BaB051674; Mon, 16 May 2005 19:06:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd-current.sentex.ca (freebsd-current.sentex.ca [64.7.128.98]) by smtp2.sentex.ca (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j4GN6BFo066442; Mon, 16 May 2005 19:06:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: by freebsd-current.sentex.ca (Postfix, from userid 666) id 4CC1D7306E; Mon, 16 May 2005 19:06:11 -0400 (EDT) Sender: FreeBSD Tinderbox From: FreeBSD Tinderbox To: FreeBSD Tinderbox , , Precedence: bulk Message-Id: <20050516230611.4CC1D7306E@freebsd-current.sentex.ca> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 19:06:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.84, clamav-milter version 0.84e on smarthost2.sentex.ca X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.84, clamav-milter version 0.84e on clamscanner4 X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: [current tinderbox] failure on powerpc/powerpc X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 23:06:16 -0000 TB --- 2005-05-16 22:30:27 - tinderbox 2.3 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2005-05-16 22:30:27 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for powerpc/powerpc TB --- 2005-05-16 22:30:27 - cleaning the object tree TB --- 2005-05-16 22:30:46 - checking out the source tree TB --- 2005-05-16 22:30:46 - cd /home/tinderbox/CURRENT/powerpc/powerpc TB --- 2005-05-16 22:30:46 - /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -A src TB --- 2005-05-16 22:37:08 - building world (CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe) TB --- 2005-05-16 22:37:08 - cd /home/tinderbox/CURRENT/powerpc/powerpc/src TB --- 2005-05-16 22:37:08 - /usr/bin/make -B buildworld >>> Building an up-to-date make(1) >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree >>> stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims >>> stage 1.2: bootstrap tools >>> stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2.3: build tools >>> stage 3: cross tools >>> stage 4.1: building includes >>> stage 4.2: building libraries [...] /home/tinderbox/CURRENT/powerpc/powerpc/obj/powerpc/tinderbox/CURRENT/powerpc/powerpc/src/tmp/usr/include/stdio.h:252: error: conflicting types for 'vprintf' /tinderbox/CURRENT/powerpc/powerpc/src/lib/libstand/stand.h:248: error: previous declaration of 'vprintf' was here /home/tinderbox/CURRENT/powerpc/powerpc/obj/powerpc/tinderbox/CURRENT/powerpc/powerpc/src/tmp/usr/include/stdio.h:252: error: conflicting types for 'vprintf' /tinderbox/CURRENT/powerpc/powerpc/src/lib/libstand/stand.h:248: error: previous declaration of 'vprintf' was here /home/tinderbox/CURRENT/powerpc/powerpc/obj/powerpc/tinderbox/CURRENT/powerpc/powerpc/src/tmp/usr/include/stdio.h:254: error: conflicting types for 'vsprintf' /tinderbox/CURRENT/powerpc/powerpc/src/lib/libstand/stand.h:250: error: previous declaration of 'vsprintf' was here /home/tinderbox/CURRENT/powerpc/powerpc/obj/powerpc/tinderbox/CURRENT/powerpc/powerpc/src/tmp/usr/include/stdio.h:254: error: conflicting types for 'vsprintf' /tinderbox/CURRENT/powerpc/powerpc/src/lib/libstand/stand.h:250: error: previous declaration of 'vsprintf' was here *** Error code 1 Stop in /tinderbox/CURRENT/powerpc/powerpc/src/lib/libstand. *** Error code 1 Stop in /tinderbox/CURRENT/powerpc/powerpc/src/lib. *** Error code 1 Stop in /tinderbox/CURRENT/powerpc/powerpc/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /tinderbox/CURRENT/powerpc/powerpc/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /tinderbox/CURRENT/powerpc/powerpc/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /tinderbox/CURRENT/powerpc/powerpc/src. TB --- 2005-05-16 23:06:11 - WARNING: /usr/bin/make returned exit code 1 TB --- 2005-05-16 23:06:11 - ERROR: failed to build world TB --- 2005-05-16 23:06:11 - tinderbox aborted From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 17 02:32:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2893B16A4CE for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 02:32:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 221D143D7C for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 02:32:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.13.71.95] (CPE-71-95.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.13.71.95]) j4H2VvnP056555; Tue, 17 May 2005 12:32:00 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <4289578E.6030005@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 12:31:42 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andreas Tobler References: <42863EC5.9000603@pop.agri.ch> <428732B8.3090903@freebsd.org> <428902E0.60005@pop.agri.ch> In-Reply-To: <428902E0.60005@pop.agri.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netbooting issues linux server, fbsd client X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 02:32:09 -0000 >> I just noticed that I can't upgrade an NFS root mount to r/w in >> single-user mode, so maybe there's something in the recent phk mount >> stuff that broke this. I'll look into it. > > > you mean this one ? > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2004-December/003231.html > > Just try to find my bits of information. Yes, that's the one. later, Peter. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 20:12:03 -0000 Save 80% Over the Brandnames like Viagra, Cialis and Propecia http://primes.uosb.com/ph/vron/mend.html Our Viagra Pharmacy uses only licensed US medical doctors From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 18 22:51:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F63D16A4D2 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 22:51:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 295C743DB9 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 22:51:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.13.71.95] (CPE-71-95.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.13.71.95]) j4IMpBnP063520 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 08:51:11 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <428BC6D0.90207@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 08:50:56 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Updated install ISO X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 22:51:22 -0000 Hi all, and especially mac-mini owners, I've built a new minimal install iso. It's available at: http://people.freebsd.org/~grehan/6.0-20050518-SNAP-powerpc-disc1.iso Instructions are at: http://people.freebsd.org/~grehan/iso_install.txt Other than being up-to-the-minute -CURRENT, the updates are: - macmini CD support - newer powerbooks can work with external USB keyboard I've not given this much testing other than a mini (on which it was built). There was a big problem with the loader that had to be fixed, and was shown up on the mini with a larger install RAMdisk. I'll check this in as soon as I do a sparc64 compile test. However, the fix is in the install image. Let me know how it goes! later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 18 23:53:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAD4D16A4CF; Wed, 18 May 2005 23:53:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ender.liquidneon.com (ender.liquidneon.com [64.78.150.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B4443DA0; Wed, 18 May 2005 23:53:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from so14k@so14k.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ender.liquidneon.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5FABA6C69; Wed, 18 May 2005 17:52:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ender.liquidneon.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ender.liquidneon.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 68332-10; Wed, 18 May 2005 17:52:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ender.liquidneon.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9AE4FA6C51; Wed, 18 May 2005 17:52:58 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 17:52:58 -0600 From: Brad Davis To: Peter Grehan Message-ID: <20050518235258.GA6419@ender.liquidneon.com> References: <428BC6D0.90207@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <428BC6D0.90207@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ender.liquidneon.com cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updated install ISO X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 23:53:05 -0000 Hi I heard a rumor that Scott Long has access to an iBook (it belongs to his wife). So I think we should start leaning on him to see if we can't get a keyboard driver written. :) Regards, Brad Davis From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 18 23:59:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6688C16A4CE for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 23:59:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3CB43D62 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 23:59:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.13.71.95] (CPE-71-95.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.13.71.95]) j4INxsnP064282; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:59:55 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <428BD6EB.9090307@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 09:59:39 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brad Davis References: <428BC6D0.90207@freebsd.org> <20050518235258.GA6419@ender.liquidneon.com> In-Reply-To: <20050518235258.GA6419@ender.liquidneon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updated install ISO X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 23:59:57 -0000 Hi Brad, > I heard a rumor that Scott Long has access to an iBook (it belongs to his > wife). So I think we should start leaning on him to see if we can't get a > keyboard driver written. :) Just had an email conversation with Scott regarding this :) On the surface, it's "how hard could a keyboard driver be?". Unfortunately, on ibook/powerbook h/w, it's about 5 layers of software. Have a read of: http://developer.apple.com/technotes/hw/hw_01.html for part of the story... later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 19 03:13:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DDDE16A4CF for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 03:13:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 906A243D6D for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 03:13:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reyad.attiyat@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so418117nzo for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 20:13:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=d534EYEa7nm4J1duOhU3EFfXEa8gnLa9L7UCHJrMSRC3xzjBWM56ly+s9Fjf+r99qhAm7vXCtzzjJIw6XM+Zp8usrSDy6akWmcDpx46rOeL/l13vCpKct8MUeLGKSRKK4VNw4VRdWhkMC6y7+kw8o6cv+xQoqpQBFJ5eW2k4pbI= Received: by 10.36.115.4 with SMTP id n4mr342743nzc; Wed, 18 May 2005 20:13:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.39.5 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 20:13:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <772add1005051820131e2e7440@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 22:13:55 -0500 From: Reyad Attiyat To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: How much longer for GNOME X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: reyad@reyadsworld.com List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 03:13:56 -0000 Just curious but what is stoping the developement from getting GNOME working is it the hardware support or the ports slowing you down. O and one other thing why dont you guys update the FreeBSD-PPC site its from June 2002. So at least other people know you are there. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 19 03:39:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD89816A4CE for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 03:39:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED49143D69 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 03:39:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.13.71.95] (CPE-71-95.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.13.71.95]) j4J3dWnP066504; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:39:32 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <428C0A65.3040004@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 13:39:17 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: reyad@reyadsworld.com References: <772add1005051820131e2e7440@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <772add1005051820131e2e7440@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How much longer for GNOME X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 03:39:36 -0000 > Just curious but what is stoping the developement from getting GNOME > working is it the hardware support or the ports slowing you down. Just needs someone to start cranking through the ports. > O > and one other thing why dont you guys update the FreeBSD-PPC site its > from June 2002. So at least other people know you are there. Yeh, yeh, it'll happen at some point. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 19 16:46:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 699C916A4D2; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:46:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ender.liquidneon.com (ender.liquidneon.com [64.78.150.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 262B743D53; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:46:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from so14k@so14k.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ender.liquidneon.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F00A3A6C82; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:46:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ender.liquidneon.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ender.liquidneon.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16595-02; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:46:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ender.liquidneon.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A93B2A6C81; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:46:21 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 10:46:21 -0600 From: Brad Davis To: Peter Grehan Message-ID: <20050519164621.GB6419@ender.liquidneon.com> References: <772add1005051820131e2e7440@mail.gmail.com> <428C0A65.3040004@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <428C0A65.3040004@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ender.liquidneon.com cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How much longer for GNOME X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 16:46:26 -0000 On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 01:39:17PM +1000, Peter Grehan wrote: > >Just curious but what is stoping the developement from getting GNOME > >working is it the hardware support or the ports slowing you down. > > Just needs someone to start cranking through the ports. You mean just building packages or? Regards, Brad Davis From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 19 17:52:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57CED16A4CE for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:52:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tortoise.way.lv (7.lmuza.lv [195.13.151.139]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D4E43DBA for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:52:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dexter@ambidexter.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tortoise.way.lv (Postfix) with ESMTP id A384C1FED52 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 20:52:14 +0300 (EEST) Received: from tortoise.way.lv ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tortoise [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28794-08 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 20:52:05 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [213.175.79.146]) by tortoise.way.lv (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB0DF1FED4C for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 20:52:03 +0300 (EEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 20:52:08 +0300 To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org From: Michael Dexter Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at way.lv Subject: USB Serial Console? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 17:52:23 -0000 Hello, This is more of a FreeBSD general question but is applies to Mac PPC more than the average platform: Are there any FreeBSD USB Serial Console projects out there akin to that in Linux? Michael. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 19 21:04:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4DB16A4CE; Thu, 19 May 2005 21:04:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.messaging.ch (exsmtp01.agrinet.ch [81.221.250.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0726543D55; Thu, 19 May 2005 21:04:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from toa@pop.agri.ch) Received: from [192.168.225.5] ([80.218.0.93]) by smtp.messaging.ch with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 19 May 2005 23:04:26 +0200 Message-ID: <428CFF53.7070907@pop.agri.ch> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 23:04:19 +0200 From: Andreas Tobler User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Macintosh/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Grehan References: <428BC6D0.90207@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <428BC6D0.90207@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 May 2005 21:04:26.0748 (UTC) FILETIME=[573F0BC0:01C55CB6] cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updated install ISO X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 21:04:31 -0000 Hi Peter and others, Peter Grehan wrote: > Let me know how it goes! Well, progress!!! First, thanks a lot. I was able to netboot my AL book (the ti too, but it does not work with kbd) with this latest snapshot. The filesystem was no more ro, the base processes could write. Unfortunately here comes the next problem. Having everything on a nfs exported fs gives some troubles in regard with flock. Some 'applications' do call flock which does only work if I enable rpc_lockd, rpc_statd and rpcbind. Doing so, I do not get any errors like this: cannot flock(/var/run/sendmail.pid, fd=5, type=6, omode=40001, euid=0): Operation not supported. But during startup I hang in cron: cat /var/log/cron: /usr/sbin/cron[361]: (CRON) DEATH (can't lock /var/run/cron.pid, otherpid may be 0: Operation not supported) Here I'm stuck. I do not know on how (if) to go on. As said, the exporting nfs is on linuxpcc. I tried with and without statd/lockd enabled/disabled on both linux/fbsd. Any ideas? Other issues I saw: My AL book is a 1.5GHz book: cpu0: Motorola PowerPC 7447A revision 1.1, 752.32 MHz cpu0: HID0 8450c0bc In the messages it reports the above. Half of the cpu clock. Also, instead of mounting via nfs I tried to install onto a fw drive: firewire0: New S400 device ID:0001a30000054263 kernel: da0 at sbp0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 kernel: da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: 50.000MB/s transfers kernel: da0: 57231MB (117210240 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 7296C) Here it complains that it cannot mount da0s3, permission denied. Is this not yet supported? I know, lot of q's :) Ok, last q, just for the curious, what was the issue of having the nfs only ro? Thanks a lot for the speedy update. Regards, Andreas From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 19 21:38:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC8516A4CE for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 21:38:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633D643DA3 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 21:38:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.31.213] (CPE-31-213.dsl.onthenet.net [203.144.31.213]) j4JLcEnP070879; Fri, 20 May 2005 07:38:14 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <428D0736.2030503@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 07:37:58 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brad Davis References: <772add1005051820131e2e7440@mail.gmail.com> <428C0A65.3040004@freebsd.org> <20050519164621.GB6419@ender.liquidneon.com> In-Reply-To: <20050519164621.GB6419@ender.liquidneon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How much longer for GNOME X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 21:38:17 -0000 >> Just needs someone to start cranking through the ports. > > You mean just building packages or? Yep, that's it. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 19 21:54:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E623D16A4CE for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 21:54:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0419D43D6E for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 21:54:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.31.213] (CPE-31-213.dsl.onthenet.net [203.144.31.213]) j4JLs0nP070900; Fri, 20 May 2005 07:54:10 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <428D0AE8.8040308@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 07:53:44 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Dexter References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB Serial Console? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 21:54:16 -0000 Hi Michael, > This is more of a FreeBSD general question but is applies to Mac PPC > more than the average platform: > > Are there any FreeBSD USB Serial Console projects out there akin to that > in Linux? I don't know of one, but there's no reason why it couldn't be the console after it is probed - the USB keyboard already works in polled mode for console input. The issue is getting console i/o *before* the USB serial port is probed i.e. at the loader prompt and booting into the debugger, OFW doesn't support this though if you are a uber-hacker it may be possible to write Forth code to do this. In a similar vein, Firewire *can* be used as a console after it's probed, but there is the same issue with it not being supported by OFW. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 20 00:21:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD49F16A4CE for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 00:21:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E3A43DA8 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 00:21:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.25.99] (cpe-99-25.fr-dsl.bris.onthenet.net [203.144.25.99])j4K0LGnP072350; Fri, 20 May 2005 10:21:17 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <428D2D6C.5050601@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 10:21:00 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andreas Tobler References: <428BC6D0.90207@freebsd.org> <428CFF53.7070907@pop.agri.ch> In-Reply-To: <428CFF53.7070907@pop.agri.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updated install ISO X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 00:21:20 -0000 Hi Andreas, > I was able to netboot my AL book (the ti too, but it does not work with > kbd) with this latest snapshot. > The filesystem was no more ro, the base processes could write. ... > Here I'm stuck. I do not know on how (if) to go on. On a diskless system, there are some filesystems that should be made out of ramdisks locally - /var is one of those. The handbook kinda mentions it: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-diskless.html Maybe what you need to do is to export the root filesystem as read-only, and then have a r/w /usr filesystem - the scripts in /etc/rc.d seem like they recognise that situation and create the appropriate ramdisk /tmp and /var filesystems. > Other issues I saw: > > My AL book is a 1.5GHz book: > > cpu0: Motorola PowerPC 7447A revision 1.1, 752.32 MHz > cpu0: HID0 8450c0bc > > In the messages it reports the above. Half of the cpu clock. I think what is happening here is that recent portables don't boot to their full speed immediately to conserve power and reduce heat. They can be shifted up to their full speed with a complicated programming sequence: http://mail-index.netbsd.org/port-macppc/2002/08/05/0002.html > Also, instead of mounting via nfs I tried to install onto a fw drive: > > firewire0: New S400 device ID:0001a30000054263 > kernel: da0 at sbp0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > kernel: da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device > da0: 50.000MB/s transfers > kernel: da0: 57231MB (117210240 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 7296C) > > Here it complains that it cannot mount da0s3, permission denied. Is this > not yet supported? Should be - the install ISO was built on an external firewire drive. Can you do a 'sysctl -b kern.geom.conftxt' to see the partitions ? I will admit, I've only ever used an Apple-partition-map formatted drive, so if this is MBR, that could be an issue. > Ok, last q, just for the curious, what was the issue of having the nfs > only ro? See rev 1.175 and 1.176 of nfs/nfs_vfsops.c: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/nfsclient/nfs_vfsops.c later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 20 06:53:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6506316A4CE for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 06:53:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail24.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail24.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D21B543D82 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 06:53:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: (qmail 14863 invoked from network); 20 May 2005 06:53:42 -0000 Received: from gate.funkthat.com (HELO hydrogen.funkthat.com) ([69.17.45.168]) (envelope-sender ) by mail24.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 20 May 2005 06:53:42 -0000 Received: from hydrogen.funkthat.com (mzebix@localhost.funkthat.com [127.0.0.1])j4K6re2g052301; Thu, 19 May 2005 23:53:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.funkthat.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j4K6rTTc052300; Thu, 19 May 2005 23:53:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 23:53:29 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Peter Grehan Message-ID: <20050520065329.GD959@funkthat.com> References: <428D0AE8.8040308@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <428D0AE8.8040308@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ X-Resume: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/resume.html cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB Serial Console? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 06:53:43 -0000 Peter Grehan wrote this message on Fri, May 20, 2005 at 07:53 +1000: > In a similar vein, Firewire *can* be used as a console after it's > probed, but there is the same issue with it not being supported by OFW. This isn't quite true.. Due to the implementation of console over firewire, it will work before it is probed... This is due to the fact that console over firewire examines the memory directly (becaue firewire supports reading/writing memory w/o the host cpu's intervention), and doesn't need anything special to be initalized... Recently, loader was improved to support dcons, and support hand off of the buffer from loader to kernel... I haven't tried this new and improved loader, but it's suppose to work... -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not." From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 20 09:59:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4851316A4CE for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 09:59:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F47343D67 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 09:59:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.25.99] (cpe-99-25.fr-dsl.bris.onthenet.net [203.144.25.99])j4K9wxnP075843; Fri, 20 May 2005 19:59:00 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <428DB4D3.20502@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 19:58:43 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John-Mark Gurney References: <428D0AE8.8040308@freebsd.org> <20050520065329.GD959@funkthat.com> In-Reply-To: <20050520065329.GD959@funkthat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB Serial Console? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 09:59:02 -0000 >> In a similar vein, Firewire *can* be used as a console after it's >>probed, but there is the same issue with it not being supported by OFW. > > > This isn't quite true.. Due to the implementation of console over > firewire, it will work before it is probed... This is due to the fact > that console over firewire examines the memory directly (becaue firewire > supports reading/writing memory w/o the host cpu's intervention), and > doesn't need anything special to be initalized... Well... only if the OHCI i/f has been enabled and is allowing physical access. If it hasn't, it would be a bit of a task to do this in the loader. > Recently, loader was improved to support dcons, and support hand off > of the buffer from loader to kernel... I haven't tried this new and > improved loader, but it's suppose to work... Has that been committed to the loader ? I couldn't find any reference to dcons in the sys/boot dir, though there is conditional _BOOT code in sys/dcons and I can see the loader->kernel buf handoff code in dcons_os.c later, Peter. 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From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 20 21:27:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D00F516A4CE for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 21:27:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DEFB43D6E for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 21:27:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leimy2k@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin07-en2 [10.13.10.152])id j4KLRujf009968 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 14:27:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c-24-17-100-138.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [24.17.100.138]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin07/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j4KLRtG1010435 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 14:27:55 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <593B0C7A-3350-4373-B6C7-9F1BC2DAE5DF@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org From: David Leimbach Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 14:27:47 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Subject: hardware situation X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 21:27:56 -0000 I'm wondering if there is a good place to check to see if FBSD-PPC project has enough hardware or is in need of other resources. I've donated some stuff in the past, I might be in a position to help out again. Dave From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 20 21:43:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7C816A4CE; Fri, 20 May 2005 21:43:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.messaging.ch (exsmtp02.agrinet.ch [81.221.252.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A22D843DA0; Fri, 20 May 2005 21:43:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from toa@pop.agri.ch) Received: from [192.168.225.5] ([80.218.0.93]) by smtp.messaging.ch with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 20 May 2005 23:43:01 +0200 Message-ID: <428E59DE.9000900@pop.agri.ch> Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 23:42:54 +0200 From: Andreas Tobler User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Macintosh/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Grehan References: <428BC6D0.90207@freebsd.org> <428CFF53.7070907@pop.agri.ch> <428D2D6C.5050601@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <428D2D6C.5050601@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 May 2005 21:43:01.0402 (UTC) FILETIME=[E54CF7A0:01C55D84] cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updated install ISO X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 21:43:03 -0000 Hi Peter, Peter Grehan wrote: > On a diskless system, there are some filesystems that should be made > out of ramdisks locally - /var is one of those. The handbook kinda > mentions it: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-diskless.html > > > Maybe what you need to do is to export the root filesystem as > read-only, and then have a r/w /usr filesystem - the scripts in > /etc/rc.d seem like they recognise that situation and create the > appropriate ramdisk /tmp and /var filesystems. Well, the handbook is a bit vague. I managed to boot via nfs after tweaking var and tmp in init.d. I told them that I have a ro /. Then they created a /dev/md* (ramdisk, right?) Ok, with this hack I was able boot, but I couldn't add a user nor was I able to create a master.passwd. >> Other issues I saw: >> >> My AL book is a 1.5GHz book: >> >> cpu0: Motorola PowerPC 7447A revision 1.1, 752.32 MHz >> cpu0: HID0 8450c0bc >> >> In the messages it reports the above. Half of the cpu clock. > > > I think what is happening here is that recent portables don't boot to > their full speed immediately to conserve power and reduce heat. They can > be shifted up to their full speed with a complicated programming sequence: > > http://mail-index.netbsd.org/port-macppc/2002/08/05/0002.html Ah, Ben the man. Ok, where would such a sequence go? arch/powerpc/macppc? ? cpu_setup ? >> Also, instead of mounting via nfs I tried to install onto a fw drive: >> >> firewire0: New S400 device ID:0001a30000054263 >> kernel: da0 at sbp0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 >> kernel: da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device >> da0: 50.000MB/s transfers >> kernel: da0: 57231MB (117210240 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 7296C) >> >> Here it complains that it cannot mount da0s3, permission denied. Is >> this not yet supported? > > > Should be - the install ISO was built on an external firewire drive. > Can you do a 'sysctl -b kern.geom.conftxt' to see the partitions ? > > I will admit, I've only ever used an Apple-partition-map formatted > drive, so if this is MBR, that could be an issue. Second attempt. I reformatted the fw drive with 2 partitions swap and / Worked after the 17th try :) > >> Ok, last q, just for the curious, what was the issue of having the nfs >> only ro? > > > See rev 1.175 and 1.176 of nfs/nfs_vfsops.c: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/nfsclient/nfs_vfsops.c Ouch. Ok. Now I have to go learning fbsd. For example I tried to build a kernel. Seems very unstable, I often got a sig 11 and retrying solved it until the next error. Also, a buildworld was non predictable in behavior. Thanks so far. I will continue to try. Andreas From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 20 23:45:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD67716A4CE for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 23:45:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 066FB43D64 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 23:45:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.25.99] (cpe-99-25.fr-dsl.bris.onthenet.net [203.144.25.99])j4KNjGnP079945; Sat, 21 May 2005 09:45:16 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <428E767C.3070306@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 09:45:00 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Leimbach References: <593B0C7A-3350-4373-B6C7-9F1BC2DAE5DF@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <593B0C7A-3350-4373-B6C7-9F1BC2DAE5DF@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hardware situation X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 23:45:19 -0000 Hi Dave, > I'm wondering if there is a good place to check to see if FBSD-PPC > project has enough hardware or is in need of other resources. I'm fine for h/w, though the cluster is in need of a machine(s), preferably G4 XServes. I've put a request for one on the donations-wanted page: http://www.freebsd.org/donations/wantlist.html Other devs ? Speak up ! > I've donated some stuff in the past, I might be in a position to help > out again. That is always appreciated ! later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 20 23:48:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AB3716A4CE for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 23:48:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534B743D8D for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 23:48:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.25.99] (cpe-99-25.fr-dsl.bris.onthenet.net [203.144.25.99])j4KNmLnP079949; Sat, 21 May 2005 09:48:21 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <428E7734.9060606@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 09:48:04 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andreas Tobler References: <428BC6D0.90207@freebsd.org> <428CFF53.7070907@pop.agri.ch> <428D2D6C.5050601@freebsd.org> <428E59DE.9000900@pop.agri.ch> In-Reply-To: <428E59DE.9000900@pop.agri.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updated install ISO X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 23:48:24 -0000 Hi Andreas, > Well, the handbook is a bit vague. I managed to boot via nfs after > tweaking var and tmp in init.d. I told them that I have a ro /. > Then they created a /dev/md* (ramdisk, right?) > Ok, with this hack I was able boot, but I couldn't add a user nor was I > able to create a master.passwd. That's definitely a file-locking issue. >> http://mail-index.netbsd.org/port-macppc/2002/08/05/0002.html > > > Ah, Ben the man. Ok, where would such a sequence go? > arch/powerpc/macppc? ? cpu_setup ? It's sys/powerpc on FreeBSD, but the actions are split across the /powerpc and /powermac directories. Very ugly :( Anyways, there's no PMU support yet so it's moot for the time being. > For example I tried to build a kernel. Seems very unstable, I often got > a sig 11 and retrying solved it until the next error. > Also, a buildworld was non predictable in behavior. How much RAM and swap do you have ? It might be worth running 'top' in another login window to see what's going on. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 21 06:38:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C2216A4CF; Sat, 21 May 2005 06:38:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.messaging.ch (exsmtp02.agrinet.ch [81.221.252.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5378C43DA4; Sat, 21 May 2005 06:38:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from toa@pop.agri.ch) Received: from [192.168.225.5] ([80.218.0.93]) by smtp.messaging.ch with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sat, 21 May 2005 08:38:11 +0200 Message-ID: <428ED750.70308@pop.agri.ch> Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 08:38:08 +0200 From: Andreas Tobler User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Macintosh/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Grehan References: <428BC6D0.90207@freebsd.org> <428CFF53.7070907@pop.agri.ch> <428D2D6C.5050601@freebsd.org> <428E59DE.9000900@pop.agri.ch> <428E7734.9060606@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <428E7734.9060606@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 May 2005 06:38:11.0812 (UTC) FILETIME=[A898B240:01C55DCF] cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updated install ISO X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 06:38:20 -0000 Hi Peter, Peter Grehan wrote: >> For example I tried to build a kernel. Seems very unstable, I often >> got a sig 11 and retrying solved it until the next error. >> Also, a buildworld was non predictable in behavior. > > > How much RAM and swap do you have ? It might be worth running 'top' in > another login window to see what's going on. Hm, I have one Gig of Ram and 128MB swap. It's only a 4GB disk so I thought to save space by not creating a 2GB swap. Is this not ok in the fbsd world ? The sig 11 appeared mostly when I switched virtual console. The 'other' errors are vague, yes, but it's difficult for a fbsd newbie to see what's relevant and what not. As said, I have to learn. Thanks, Andreas From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 21 07:43:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D422D16A4CF for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 07:43:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09A7243D81 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 07:43:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.25.99] (cpe-99-25.fr-dsl.bris.onthenet.net [203.144.25.99])j4L7gvnP080667; Sat, 21 May 2005 17:42:58 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <428EE671.5030900@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 17:42:41 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andreas Tobler References: <428BC6D0.90207@freebsd.org> <428CFF53.7070907@pop.agri.ch> <428D2D6C.5050601@freebsd.org> <428E59DE.9000900@pop.agri.ch> <428E7734.9060606@freebsd.org> <428ED750.70308@pop.agri.ch> In-Reply-To: <428ED750.70308@pop.agri.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updated install ISO X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 07:43:01 -0000 Hi Andreas, > Hm, I have one Gig of Ram and 128MB swap. It's only a 4GB disk so I > thought to save space by not creating a 2GB swap. Is this not ok in the > fbsd world ? No, that's perfectly fine. In fact, I've not run a machine with that much RAM. I wonder if that's the issue :) > The sig 11 appeared mostly when I switched virtual console. Is this while running a build ? > The 'other' > errors are vague, yes, but it's difficult for a fbsd newbie to see > what's relevant and what not. As said, I have to learn. Don't worry about letting us know - it's better to be able to assign errors to the non-relevant bucket than miss something :) later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 21 07:55:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C593816A4CE; Sat, 21 May 2005 07:55:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.messaging.ch (exsmtp02.agrinet.ch [81.221.252.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C35643D48; Sat, 21 May 2005 07:55:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from toa@pop.agri.ch) Received: from [192.168.225.5] ([80.218.0.93]) by smtp.messaging.ch with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sat, 21 May 2005 09:55:22 +0200 Message-ID: <428EE966.4040305@pop.agri.ch> Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 09:55:18 +0200 From: Andreas Tobler User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Macintosh/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Grehan References: <428BC6D0.90207@freebsd.org> <428CFF53.7070907@pop.agri.ch> <428D2D6C.5050601@freebsd.org> <428E59DE.9000900@pop.agri.ch> <428E7734.9060606@freebsd.org> <428ED750.70308@pop.agri.ch> <428EE671.5030900@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <428EE671.5030900@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 May 2005 07:55:22.0408 (UTC) FILETIME=[70A59280:01C55DDA] cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updated install ISO X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 07:55:24 -0000 Hi Peter, Peter Grehan wrote: >> Hm, I have one Gig of Ram and 128MB swap. It's only a 4GB disk so I >> thought to save space by not creating a 2GB swap. Is this not ok in >> the fbsd world ? > > > No, that's perfectly fine. In fact, I've not run a machine with that > much RAM. I wonder if that's the issue :) Hm, I could remove one DIMM and see it gets better? >> The sig 11 appeared mostly when I switched virtual console. > > Is this while running a build ? Yes, on one console a 'make buildworld' and on another console usual shell activities. Then I saw the sig 11 in the make console. > >> The 'other' errors are vague, yes, but it's difficult for a fbsd >> newbie to see what's relevant and what not. As said, I have to learn. > > > Don't worry about letting us know - it's better to be able to assign > errors to the non-relevant bucket than miss something :) Ok, I come with details as soon as I'm back in fbsd. gcc time now :) THanks, Andreas From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 21 08:55:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8739F16A4CF for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 08:55:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9342843D4C for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 08:55:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.25.99] (cpe-99-25.fr-dsl.bris.onthenet.net [203.144.25.99])j4L8tqnP080745; Sat, 21 May 2005 18:55:53 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <428EF788.8070700@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 18:55:36 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andreas Tobler References: <428BC6D0.90207@freebsd.org> <428CFF53.7070907@pop.agri.ch> <428D2D6C.5050601@freebsd.org> <428E59DE.9000900@pop.agri.ch> <428E7734.9060606@freebsd.org> <428ED750.70308@pop.agri.ch> <428EE671.5030900@freebsd.org> <428EE966.4040305@pop.agri.ch> In-Reply-To: <428EE966.4040305@pop.agri.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updated install ISO X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 08:55:56 -0000 Hi Andreas, >> No, that's perfectly fine. In fact, I've not run a machine with that >> much RAM. I wonder if that's the issue :) > > Hm, I could remove one DIMM and see it gets better? You can artificially reduce the amount of RAM present from the loader prompt with OK set hw.physmem=512M ... or whatever value. It might be worthwhile to try it at 512M and see how it goes. The builds I've done have been on machines with 512 and 640M. >>> The sig 11 appeared mostly when I switched virtual console. >> >> Is this while running a build ? > > Yes, on one console a 'make buildworld' and on another console usual > shell activities. Then I saw the sig 11 in the make console. I'll try done some console switching while building on a VTY - I usually kick it off in a remote login. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 21 09:12:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFFA416A4CE; Sat, 21 May 2005 09:12:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.messaging.ch (exsmtp01.agrinet.ch [81.221.250.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9793243D9B; Sat, 21 May 2005 09:12:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from toa@pop.agri.ch) Received: from [192.168.225.5] ([80.218.0.93]) by smtp.messaging.ch with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sat, 21 May 2005 11:12:51 +0200 Message-ID: <428EFB8F.10702@pop.agri.ch> Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 11:12:47 +0200 From: Andreas Tobler User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Macintosh/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Grehan , freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org References: <428BC6D0.90207@freebsd.org> <428CFF53.7070907@pop.agri.ch> <428D2D6C.5050601@freebsd.org> <428E59DE.9000900@pop.agri.ch> <428E7734.9060606@freebsd.org> <428ED750.70308@pop.agri.ch> <428EE671.5030900@freebsd.org> <428EE966.4040305@pop.agri.ch> <428EF788.8070700@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <428EF788.8070700@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 May 2005 09:12:51.0081 (UTC) FILETIME=[4378C790:01C55DE5] Subject: Re: Updated install ISO X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 09:12:56 -0000 Hi Peter, Peter Grehan wrote: > You can artificially reduce the amount of RAM present from the loader > prompt with > > OK set hw.physmem=512M Ah, good. Easier way :) I try that then. > > ... or whatever value. It might be worthwhile to try it at 512M and see > how it goes. The builds I've done have been on machines with 512 and 640M. > >>>> The sig 11 appeared mostly when I switched virtual console. >>> >>> >>> Is this while running a build ? >> >> >> Yes, on one console a 'make buildworld' and on another console usual >> shell activities. Then I saw the sig 11 in the make console. > > > I'll try done some console switching while building on a VTY - I > usually kick it off in a remote login. Ok, and understanding question: with your current snapshot cd am I able to do a buildworld/buildkernel without updating the source? I mean, I installed the source from the cd. Now I wonder if I have to sync something or if it should be possible to build out of the box w/o any errors (beside my oddities). Can you do a buildworld/buildkernel with the bare cd installation ? Thanks, Andreas From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 21 09:26:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C3C16A4D0 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 09:26:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6200E43D62 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 09:26:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.25.99] (cpe-99-25.fr-dsl.bris.onthenet.net [203.144.25.99])j4L9QanP080790; Sat, 21 May 2005 19:26:37 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <428EFEBC.5060304@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 19:26:20 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andreas Tobler References: <428BC6D0.90207@freebsd.org> <428CFF53.7070907@pop.agri.ch> <428D2D6C.5050601@freebsd.org> <428E59DE.9000900@pop.agri.ch> <428E7734.9060606@freebsd.org> <428ED750.70308@pop.agri.ch> <428EE671.5030900@freebsd.org> <428EE966.4040305@pop.agri.ch> <428EF788.8070700@freebsd.org> <428EFB8F.10702@pop.agri.ch> In-Reply-To: <428EFB8F.10702@pop.agri.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updated install ISO X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 09:26:41 -0000 > Ok, and understanding question: with your current snapshot cd am I able > to do a buildworld/buildkernel without updating the source? .. > I mean, I installed the source from the cd. Now I wonder if I have to > sync something or if it should be possible to build out of the box w/o > any errors (beside my oddities). Can you do a buildworld/buildkernel > with the bare cd installation ? Something else I haven't tried :) I believe so, if you install the full source distribution. I only tested a minimal install for the last ISO in my haste to get it completed. There are a couple of patches in the kernel source tree at least that haven't been committed to mainline CVS, but these are mainly debugging aids that I intend to retire. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 21 12:09:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 736DB16A4CE; Sat, 21 May 2005 12:09:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.messaging.ch (exsmtp01.agrinet.ch [81.221.250.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C24D643D83; Sat, 21 May 2005 12:09:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from toa@pop.agri.ch) Received: from [192.168.225.5] ([80.218.0.93]) by smtp.messaging.ch with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sat, 21 May 2005 14:09:19 +0200 Message-ID: <428F24E8.2080202@pop.agri.ch> Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 14:09:12 +0200 From: Andreas Tobler User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Macintosh/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Grehan References: <428BC6D0.90207@freebsd.org> <428CFF53.7070907@pop.agri.ch> <428D2D6C.5050601@freebsd.org> <428E59DE.9000900@pop.agri.ch> <428E7734.9060606@freebsd.org> <428ED750.70308@pop.agri.ch> <428EE671.5030900@freebsd.org> <428EE966.4040305@pop.agri.ch> <428EF788.8070700@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <428EF788.8070700@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 May 2005 12:09:19.0343 (UTC) FILETIME=[EA9157F0:01C55DFD] cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updated install ISO X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 12:09:22 -0000 Hi Peter, Peter Grehan wrote: > You can artificially reduce the amount of RAM present from the loader > prompt with > > OK set hw.physmem=512M > > ... or whatever value. It might be worthwhile to try it at 512M and see > how it goes. The builds I've done have been on machines with 512 and 640M. Coming back from a kernel trap now :) Wanted to cd /cdrom. Well, another story. I set to 512M and, oh wonder, both, a buildworld and a buildkernel started promisingly. I was in gcc build when the trap happened. So, I definitely have too much memory :) Also, no problem with switching console, on one a buildkernel on another one a buildworld and in a third some shell activities. No weird errors nor sig 11 stuff. The question about buildworld and buildkernel I should be able to answer later when my trials finish. I think I go through these steps now and see what I understand. A boot question I have, my install sits on an external fw disk. Under fbsd it's /dev/da0s3. How do I tell the loader to boot from this device? Now I boot with: cd:,\boot\loader On the prompt I do: set hw.physmem=512M set currdev=cd:, boot -s on mountroot> I type: ufs:/dev/da0s3 The I boot into fbsd. from there I can login and play around. So, is there a way to pack these steps into one file? Thanks a lot, Andreas From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 21 20:48:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2060A16A4CE; Sat, 21 May 2005 20:48:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.messaging.ch (exsmtp01.agrinet.ch [81.221.250.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9298743D48; Sat, 21 May 2005 20:48:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from toa@pop.agri.ch) Received: from [192.168.225.5] ([80.218.0.93]) by smtp.messaging.ch with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sat, 21 May 2005 22:48:18 +0200 Message-ID: <428F9E8C.2040202@pop.agri.ch> Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 22:48:12 +0200 From: Andreas Tobler User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Macintosh/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Grehan References: <428BC6D0.90207@freebsd.org> <428CFF53.7070907@pop.agri.ch> <428D2D6C.5050601@freebsd.org> <428E59DE.9000900@pop.agri.ch> <428E7734.9060606@freebsd.org> <428ED750.70308@pop.agri.ch> <428EE671.5030900@freebsd.org> <428EE966.4040305@pop.agri.ch> <428EF788.8070700@freebsd.org> <428EFB8F.10702@pop.agri.ch> <428EFEBC.5060304@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <428EFEBC.5060304@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 May 2005 20:48:18.0960 (UTC) FILETIME=[6B39D100:01C55E46] cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updated install ISO X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 20:48:21 -0000 Peter Grehan wrote: >> Ok, and understanding question: with your current snapshot cd am I >> able to do a buildworld/buildkernel without updating the source? > > .. > >> I mean, I installed the source from the cd. Now I wonder if I have to >> sync something or if it should be possible to build out of the box w/o >> any errors (beside my oddities). Can you do a buildworld/buildkernel >> with the bare cd installation ? > > > Something else I haven't tried :) Hehe, but I did :) buildworld and buildkernel succeeded. Well, I did not try to install yet. But at least the kernel has the same size..... I now go to figure how to boot best in my environment. Keep you updated. Andreas From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 21 21:57:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA7716A4CE; Sat, 21 May 2005 21:57:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.messaging.ch (exsmtp01.agrinet.ch [81.221.250.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29FAC43D54; Sat, 21 May 2005 21:56:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from toa@pop.agri.ch) Received: from [192.168.225.5] ([80.218.0.93]) by smtp.messaging.ch with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sat, 21 May 2005 23:56:58 +0200 Message-ID: <428FAEA2.50805@pop.agri.ch> Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 23:56:50 +0200 From: Andreas Tobler User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Macintosh/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Grehan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 May 2005 21:56:58.0339 (UTC) FILETIME=[02912B30:01C55E50] cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: OF boot commands for firewire X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 21:57:00 -0000 Hello Peter, new subject. You mentioned that your build was done on an external fw disc on a macmini. Do you also boot from it ? My question goes in this direction, what are the OF boot commands to point to the root drive being on a fw drive ? I have placed the loader on a hfs drive. Now I enter OF and I type 'boot hd:7,\boot\loader fw:3| fw:3, .... (I do not know if fw:3 is really right, or if we need additional arguments. There is only one drive attached to the bus and it has 3 partitions, map, swap, root) It does find the loader but not the kernel to boot. So, a 'dir fw:3,\' does not show anything. Do we need some additional steps ? Should it be possible or no luck at all? Any pointers, ideas ? Thanks, Andreas