From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 30 02:47:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A207C16A41F for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 02:47:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdnier@tds.net) Received: from outbound4.mail.tds.net (outbound4.mail.tds.net [216.170.230.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5399143D45 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 02:47:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdnier@tds.net) Received: from outaamta02.mail.tds.net (outaamta02.mail.tds.net [216.170.230.32]) by outbound4.mail.tds.net (8.13.4/8.12.2) with ESMTP id j9U2lOfG013551 for ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 21:47:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [66.222.24.193] by outaamta02.mail.tds.net with ESMTP id <20051030024724.KODP15375.outaamta02.mail.tds.net@[66.222.24.193]> for ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 21:47:24 -0500 Message-ID: <4364343A.9010703@tds.net> Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 21:47:22 -0500 From: David Niergarth User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Error mounting /dev/ad1s3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 02:47:26 -0000 Hello, I'm trying to install the FreeBSD-RC1 ISO image on a 400-MHz G4 (PCI Graphics). I use FreeBSD i386 at work so I'm familiar with the installation process. I must be doing something dumb. Everything boots from CD fine, then the installer starts up. I choose the standard install option. I configure the partitions on my second drive, /dev/ad1 (it starts out as an HFS+ formatted disk). I select ad1s3, then choose "A" (auto) to lay out the partitions, then exit back to the installer. I continue with the installer until it tries to create the root partition. Here's the error I'm getting: Error mounting /dev/ad1s3 on /mnt: Operation not permitted Am I missing a step where the slices are set up? I get the same problem when trying to install to an external Firewire drive (/dev/da0). Any advice? Thanks, --David From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 30 03:06:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8C2C16A41F for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 03:06:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from cayenne.onthenet.com.au (cacheflow.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7825943D45 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 03:06:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.18.169] (CPE-18-169.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.18.169]) by cayenne.onthenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id B77CE75901B; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 13:06:14 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <436438B9.8080103@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 13:06:33 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Niergarth References: <4364343A.9010703@tds.net> In-Reply-To: <4364343A.9010703@tds.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Error mounting /dev/ad1s3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 03:06:17 -0000 Hi David, > Error mounting /dev/ad1s3 on /mnt: Operation not permitted > > Am I missing a step where the slices are set up? I get the same problem > when trying to install to an external Firewire drive (/dev/da0). > > Any advice? The 'A' option in sysinstall doesn't work :( It creates a BSD partition (I think) inside the slice, but the loader doesn't understand BSD partitions. What you should do is just create a single '/' filesystem on your slice. > I must be doing something dumb. Nah, it's me, I forgot to disable that option when it was first reported to break things :( later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 30 03:57:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA5F716A420; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 03:57:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdnier@tds.net) Received: from outbound2.mail.tds.net (outbound2.mail.tds.net [216.170.230.92]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65AEB43D45; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 03:57:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdnier@tds.net) Received: from outaamta02.mail.tds.net (outaamta02.mail.tds.net [216.170.230.32]) by outbound2.mail.tds.net (8.13.4/8.12.2) with ESMTP id j9U3v593020952; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 22:57:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [66.222.24.193] by outaamta02.mail.tds.net with ESMTP id <20051030035705.KWES15375.outaamta02.mail.tds.net@[66.222.24.193]>; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 22:57:05 -0500 Message-ID: <4364448E.7050606@tds.net> Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 22:57:02 -0500 From: David Niergarth User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Grehan References: <4364343A.9010703@tds.net> <436438B9.8080103@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <436438B9.8080103@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Error mounting /dev/ad1s3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 03:57:06 -0000 Hi Peter, > The 'A' option in sysinstall doesn't work :( > > It creates a BSD partition (I think) inside the slice, but the loader > doesn't understand BSD partitions. > > What you should do is just create a single '/' filesystem on your slice. I went back and tried this. Problem now is that the DiskLabel Editor is not letting me specify the size of the filesystem. I select my slice, type "C" to create. I can choose either "swap" or "file system" but whichever I pick, it automatically uses all available space, leaving nothing for anything else. I went ahead and created a "/" filesystem (without any swap). "/" was initialized and files were copied from the CD. But then it complained that it couldn't install the ports system; problems also with xorg. Maybe my CD has some problems. I'll try ftp next time. In any case, it appears that the DiskLabel Editor is misbehaving in several ways. Thanks for any other suggestions, --David From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 30 04:02:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC93F16A420 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 04:02:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from cayenne.onthenet.com.au (cacheflow.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B14743D46 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 04:02:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.18.169] (CPE-18-169.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.18.169]) by cayenne.onthenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE76F759153; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 14:02:36 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <436445EF.6090108@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 14:02:55 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Niergarth References: <4364343A.9010703@tds.net> <436438B9.8080103@freebsd.org> <4364448E.7050606@tds.net> In-Reply-To: <4364448E.7050606@tds.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Error mounting /dev/ad1s3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 04:02:38 -0000 Hi David, > I went back and tried this. Problem now is that the DiskLabel Editor is > not letting me specify the size of the filesystem. I select my slice, > type "C" to create. I can choose either "swap" or "file system" but > whichever I pick, it automatically uses all available space, leaving > nothing for anything else. Yep, that's the downside for having to do this. > I went ahead and created a "/" filesystem (without any swap). "/" was > initialized and files were copied from the CD. But then it complained > that it couldn't install the ports system; problems also with xorg. > Maybe my CD has some problems. I'll try ftp next time. I didn't put the ports system onto the RC1 CD. There also aren't any pre-built packages, so you'll have to grab the ports tree from freebsd.org and built ports manually. > In any case, it appears that the DiskLabel Editor is misbehaving in > several ways. Yeh, it needs some work :( later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 30 04:55:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D150316A41F; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 04:55:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdnier@tds.net) Received: from outbound3.mail.tds.net (outbound3.mail.tds.net [216.170.230.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 771BF43D48; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 04:55:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdnier@tds.net) Received: from outaamta02.mail.tds.net (outaamta02.mail.tds.net [216.170.230.32]) by outbound3.mail.tds.net (8.13.4/8.12.2) with ESMTP id j9U4t30q004175; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 23:55:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [66.222.24.193] by outaamta02.mail.tds.net with ESMTP id <20051030045503.LAEM15375.outaamta02.mail.tds.net@[66.222.24.193]>; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 23:55:03 -0500 Message-ID: <43645225.2050804@tds.net> Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 23:55:01 -0500 From: David Niergarth User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Grehan References: <4364343A.9010703@tds.net> <436438B9.8080103@freebsd.org> <4364448E.7050606@tds.net> <436445EF.6090108@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <436445EF.6090108@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Error mounting /dev/ad1s3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 04:55:05 -0000 Hi Peter, Thanks for the quick feedback. >> I went back and tried this. Problem now is that the DiskLabel Editor >> is not letting me specify the size of the filesystem. I select my >> slice, type "C" to create. I can choose either "swap" or "file system" >> but whichever I pick, it automatically uses all available space, >> leaving nothing for anything else. > > > Yep, that's the downside for having to do this. So no swap? Is this the "fdisk not working" problem? Just wondering if this is a short or long-term problem (and if I wan't to install RC-1 now or wait a bit). > I didn't put the ports system onto the RC1 CD. There also aren't any > pre-built packages, so you'll have to grab the ports tree from > freebsd.org and built ports manually. Ah, of course. Thanks, --David From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 30 13:20:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4478116A421 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 13:20:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from cayenne.onthenet.com.au (cacheflow.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA6C43D46 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 13:20:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.18.169] (CPE-18-169.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.18.169]) by cayenne.onthenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2027591A2; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 23:20:29 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4364C8AF.7020104@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 23:20:47 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Niergarth References: <4364343A.9010703@tds.net> <436438B9.8080103@freebsd.org> <4364448E.7050606@tds.net> <436445EF.6090108@freebsd.org> <43645225.2050804@tds.net> In-Reply-To: <43645225.2050804@tds.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Error mounting /dev/ad1s3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 13:20:32 -0000 Hi David, >>> I went back and tried this. Problem now is that the DiskLabel Editor >>> is not letting me specify the size of the filesystem. I select my >>> slice, type "C" to create. I can choose either "swap" or "file >>> system" but whichever I pick, it automatically uses all available >>> space, leaving nothing for anything else. >> >> Yep, that's the downside for having to do this. > > > So no swap? Is this the "fdisk not working" problem? Just wondering if > this is a short or long-term problem (and if I wan't to install RC-1 now > or wait a bit). Swap works: you just have to dedicate an entire slice to it. The situation won't change for 6.0. I suppose it boils down to a question of usability. If you have to carve up the disk with Apple tools, is it fine at that stage to size up how you want FreeBSD to drop onto dedicated slices ? Or is it better to have a single slice for FreeBSD, and partition that up ? User community, let me know ! later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 30 16:44:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B5A16A41F for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 16:44:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1smout1.broadpark.no (osl1smout1.broadpark.no [80.202.4.58]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D212C43D46 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 16:44:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1sminn1.broadpark.no ([80.202.4.59]) by osl1smout1.broadpark.no (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IP6007DDMOKYX90@osl1smout1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 17:48:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from kg-work.kg4.no ([80.203.92.30]) by osl1sminn1.broadpark.no (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with SMTP id <0IP600BEFMNRGIH0@osl1sminn1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 17:47:52 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 17:44:53 +0100 From: Torfinn Ingolfsen X-Face: "t9w2,-X@O^I`jVW\sonI3.,36KBLZE*AL[y9lL[PyFD*r_S:dIL9c[8Y>V42R0"!"yb_zN,f#%.[PYYNq; m"_0v; ~rUM2Yy!zmkh)3&U|u!=T(zyv,MHJv"nDH>OJ`t(@mil461d_B'Uo|'nMwlKe0Mv=kvV?Nh@>Hb<3s_z2jYgZhPb@?Wi^x1a~Hplz1.zH In-reply-to: <4364C8AF.7020104@freebsd.org> To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Message-id: <20051030174453.430b35e9.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.5 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <4364343A.9010703@tds.net> <436438B9.8080103@freebsd.org> <4364448E.7050606@tds.net> <436445EF.6090108@freebsd.org> <43645225.2050804@tds.net> <4364C8AF.7020104@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Error mounting /dev/ad1s3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 16:44:56 -0000 On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 23:20:47 +1000 Peter Grehan wrote: > I suppose it boils down to a question of usability. If you have to > carve up the disk with Apple tools, is it fine at that stage to size > up how you want FreeBSD to drop onto dedicated slices ? Or is it > better to have a single slice for FreeBSD, and partition that up ? IMHO, both ways to do it are equally fine as long as I have the tools to do it. The most important thing is that the documentation is correct. If one were to take POLA into account, I guess that non-working parts of sysinstall should be disabled. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen, Norway From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 30 21:31:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15D8416A41F for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 21:31:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ltgator333@yahoo.com) Received: from web34708.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web34708.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.68.157]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9DD4C43D45 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 21:31:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ltgator333@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 8812 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Oct 2005 21:31:06 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=AvTBp1l5rfowuMC2mMV7g5E7/LUzOrfFGXbQCBVHhJuc6eE5f3E6Ju/lLTFpPRLb5BxZgQPI8Cwi95lxAWw4YcprBm9zGaM0/O4Mf70FGUP1OcriOsK7bVWfwl3DQFgqGv9bMtEJZ79rxEkjIucyKMcE7uJU9iIAWtW3I3gPeoE= ; Message-ID: <20051030213106.8810.qmail@web34708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [4.225.235.130] by web34708.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 13:31:05 PST Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 13:31:05 -0800 (PST) From: LT Cornell To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Hardware compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 21:31:07 -0000 Hi, I'm fairly well experienced with FreeBSD/i386 but am wondering about using a PPC for my networking needs. I'd like to go with something smaller form factor/less power than a full-fledged PC tower, but it doesn't bother me if it ends up being about the same. I do realize the array of products from Apple, so let's assume I'm not interested in Apple hardware. I am wondering what hardware is out there that would fill what I'm looking for that FreeBSD would run on, with a do-able level of trouble. Thnx, LT __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 02:39:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13C516A41F for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 02:39:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from hummer.onthenet.com.au (hummer.OntheNet.com.au [203.13.68.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4402F43D46 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 02:39:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.18.169] (CPE-18-169.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.18.169]) by hummer.onthenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43F1019FB89; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 12:39:09 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <436583DF.4010708@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 12:39:27 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LT Cornell References: <20051030213106.8810.qmail@web34708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20051030213106.8810.qmail@web34708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hardware compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 02:39:11 -0000 Hi LT, > I am wondering what hardware is out there that would > fill what I'm looking for that FreeBSD would run on, > with a do-able level of trouble. At this point in time, sorry, no :( My intention with the port was to satisfy that niche, however, I've ended up being pre-occupied with (never-ending) Apple h/w support. Hopefully that will change in the future and some more interesting platforms will be supported. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 05:43:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28D216A41F; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 05:43:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdnier@tds.net) Received: from outbound4.mail.tds.net (outbound4.mail.tds.net [216.170.230.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F7A43D46; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 05:43:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdnier@tds.net) Received: from outaamta02.mail.tds.net (outaamta02.mail.tds.net [216.170.230.32]) by outbound4.mail.tds.net (8.13.4/8.12.2) with ESMTP id j9V5hgvm024265; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 23:43:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from [66.222.24.193] by outaamta02.mail.tds.net with ESMTP id <20051031054342.SDTH15375.outaamta02.mail.tds.net@[66.222.24.193]>; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 23:43:42 -0600 Message-ID: <4365AF0B.9090600@tds.net> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 23:43:39 -0600 From: David Niergarth User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Grehan References: <4364343A.9010703@tds.net> <436438B9.8080103@freebsd.org> <4364448E.7050606@tds.net> <436445EF.6090108@freebsd.org> <43645225.2050804@tds.net> <4364C8AF.7020104@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <4364C8AF.7020104@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Error mounting /dev/ad1s3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 05:43:43 -0000 Hi Peter, > Swap works: you just have to dedicate an entire slice to it. The > situation won't change for 6.0. Sorry, I missed the "Please follow instructions given here" link on the download page. Things are making more sense now. > I suppose it boils down to a question of usability. If you have to > carve up the disk with Apple tools, is it fine at that stage to size up > how you want FreeBSD to drop onto dedicated slices ? Or is it better to > have a single slice for FreeBSD, and partition that up ? > > User community, let me know ! I guess I was expecting a single slice that you would partition up, which is what I'm familiar with from FreeBSD on i386. Seems like the installing-into-a-single-slice approach would be simpler. FWIW, I found out about FreeBSD 6's PPC support reading an interview with Scott Long (http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/showthread.php?t=35212), where he says "One of the best kept secrets about 6.0 is that it can be installed onto a G4 PowerMac and function fully, including running X and your favorite desktop manager. The only caveat is that it doesn't work yet with the built-in keyboard found on iBooks and PowerBooks." This is why I was initially thinking "oh, it'll just be like the normal FreeBSD install." --David From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 06:25:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5677616A41F for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 06:25:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdnier@tds.net) Received: from outbound4.mail.tds.net (outbound4.mail.tds.net [216.170.230.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43CF43D49 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 06:25:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdnier@tds.net) Received: from outaamta01.mail.tds.net (outaamta01.mail.tds.net [216.170.230.31]) by outbound4.mail.tds.net (8.13.4/8.12.2) with ESMTP id j9V6PCpd000177 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 00:25:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from [66.222.24.193] by outaamta01.mail.tds.net with ESMTP id <20051031062511.QOCI15475.outaamta01.mail.tds.net@[66.222.24.193]> for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 00:25:11 -0600 Message-ID: <4365B8C5.2010304@tds.net> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 00:25:09 -0600 From: David Niergarth User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: First boot question X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 06:25:13 -0000 Hello, Is it possible to boot FreeBSD from an external drive (Firewire)? How about a second internal drive (IDE)? The iso_install.txt file uses the following example: 0 > boot cd:,\boot\loader hd:11 "hd" appears to be a device alias for disk0. My question is how to specify disk1 or a Firewire drive? Thanks, --David From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 1 09:35:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D97E16A41F for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 09:35:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from cayenne.onthenet.com.au (cacheflow.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FAD743D45 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 09:35:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.18.169] (CPE-18-169.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.18.169]) by cayenne.onthenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B5FE75917F; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 19:35:26 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <436736F3.9050902@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 19:35:47 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Niergarth References: <4365B8C5.2010304@tds.net> In-Reply-To: <4365B8C5.2010304@tds.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: First boot question X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 09:35:28 -0000 Hi David, > Is it possible to boot FreeBSD from an external drive (Firewire)? How > about a second internal drive (IDE)? Yes and yes ! :) > The iso_install.txt file uses the following example: > > 0 > boot cd:,\boot\loader hd:11 > > "hd" appears to be a device alias for disk0. My question is how to > specify disk1 or a Firewire drive? At the openfirmware prompt, issue a 'devalias' command and you'll see what some of the device-name shortcuts are. I'd say the second IDE drive would be 'hd1'. For a firewire drive, the alis is most likely fw/node/sbp-2/disk@0:X .. where X is the partition number. e.g. to boot from partition 3 on the external firewire drive: 0 > boot cd:,\boot\loader fw/node/sbp-2/disk@0:3 later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 21:21:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC12116A41F for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 21:21:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leeg@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk) Received: from mail.metronet.co.uk (mail.metronet.co.uk [213.162.97.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56CE243D46 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 21:21:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leeg@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (84-51-133-9.oxford903.adsl.metronet.co.uk [84.51.133.9]) by smtp.metronet.co.uk (MetroNet Mail) with ESMTP id 55CD940B6F0 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 21:21:22 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <43692DDE.5000500@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 21:21:34 +0000 From: Graham J Lee User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Macintosh/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org References: <002201c5dbc5$fb13b460$13b46743@TIM> In-Reply-To: <002201c5dbc5$fb13b460$13b46743@TIM> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: panic booting install CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 21:21:40 -0000 > > http://people.freebsd.org/~grehan/sprg_test.iso > > Would those affected be able to give it a go ? The kernel should now > get to the 'mountroot>' prompt. Just given it a go - sorry to take a while but such is the way when a proper job gets in the way ;-) But yes, magic, works for me too. Cheers, Graham. -- Graham Lee UNIX Systems Manager, Oxford Physics Practical Course http://users.ox.ac.uk/~wadh1342 From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 21:34:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1442316A41F for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 21:34:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from hummer.onthenet.com.au (hummer.OntheNet.com.au [203.13.68.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B5443D46 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 21:34:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.18.169] (CPE-18-169.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.18.169]) by hummer.onthenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBFDC19FADC; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 07:34:35 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <43693100.4050104@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 07:34:56 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Graham J Lee References: <002201c5dbc5$fb13b460$13b46743@TIM> <43692DDE.5000500@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <43692DDE.5000500@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: panic booting install CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 21:34:38 -0000 > But yes, magic, works for me too. Thanks for the test. This fix hasn't made it into the 6.0 release, but I'll put together a 7.0 snapshot iso for those who are affected. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 23:40:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1DAE16A41F for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 23:40:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nathanw@uchicago.edu) Received: from relay00.uchicago.edu (relay00.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BFF643D45 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 23:40:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nathanw@uchicago.edu) Received: from [128.135.116.74] (stony-116-074.rh.uchicago.edu [128.135.116.74]) by relay00.uchicago.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id jA3Nec54008900 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 17:40:38 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <436A9FF2.6020606@uchicago.edu> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 17:40:34 -0600 From: Nathan Whitehorn User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051012) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org References: <006601c5d406$ea0a8f20$13b46743@TIM> <4361C244.9090403@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <4361C244.9090403@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: panic booting install CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 23:40:43 -0000 Peter Grehan wrote: > Hi all, > > I think I have a fix for the 'curthread != NULL' panic seen on some > machines when booting. I can now hold down the 'C' key and boot on the > old eMac. > > I've put up a tiny (4Mb) test iso image that contains just the > loader, CHRP boot script and kernel: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~grehan/sprg_test.iso > > Would those affected be able to give it a go ? The kernel should now > get to the 'mountroot>' prompt. This works perfectly, as noted. I'm trying to install on a Powermac G4 (well, a large variety of powermac g4s) that were affected by this problem -- and now I have a CD that kernel panics at boot, and one that doesn't, but can't do anything. Is there any way you could (a) provide directions for installing using sprg_test.iso (I tried using 2 CD drives, but can't figure out how to specify root correctly), (b) make a patched 6.0-RELEASE iso, or (c) tell me how to make my own? Thanks so much, Nathan From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 00:17:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E58F816A41F for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 00:17:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from hummer.onthenet.com.au (hummer.OntheNet.com.au [203.13.68.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84AE143D45 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 00:17:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.18.169] (CPE-18-169.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.18.169]) by hummer.onthenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36FAE19FDC4; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 10:17:41 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <436AA8B9.1050104@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 10:18:01 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nathan Whitehorn References: <006601c5d406$ea0a8f20$13b46743@TIM> <4361C244.9090403@freebsd.org> <436A9FF2.6020606@uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <436A9FF2.6020606@uchicago.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: panic booting install CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 00:17:44 -0000 Hi Nathan, > This works perfectly, as noted. I'm trying to install on a Powermac G4 > (well, a large variety of powermac g4s) that were affected by this > problem -- and now I have a CD that kernel panics at boot, and one that > doesn't, but can't do anything. Is there any way you could (a) provide > directions for installing using sprg_test.iso (I tried using 2 CD > drives, but can't figure out how to specify root correctly), (b) make a > patched 6.0-RELEASE iso I'll knock up a 7.0-snap (just done with the 6.0-RELEASE) that will have the fix in it. If you really need a 6.x based system, then it might be a few days before I can MFC the fix back into that branch. > (c) tell me how to make my own? It is possible, but by the time I'm finished writing the instructions, the 7.0-snap would be built :) later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 10:44:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ECAD16A420 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 10:44:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kouye@wanadoo.fr) Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.fr (smtp2.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93D6E43D60 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 10:44:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kouye@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0201.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 309471C00459 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 11:44:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (ASte-Genev-Bois-151-1-4-24.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.121.130.24]) by mwinf0201.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 05FAA1C00446 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 11:44:35 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20051105104436247.05FAA1C00446@mwinf0201.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <436C8D13.7090606@wanadoo.fr> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 11:44:35 +0100 From: edward User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051004) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Update on FreeBSD 6.0 ppc status ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 10:44:38 -0000 Hi all, Just wanted to check on what has changed since http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/ppc.html was updated last june. Is FreeBSD ppc now usable on a day to day basis (i.e. newbie-proof) or is it still at a too early stage for that ? "G4 ibooks/powerbooks - internal keyboard/mouse not supported," is that still an issue ? Finally, I use a PowerBook Titanium (G4/667), with an external firewire DVD drive and FreeBSD would be installed on an existing partition on an external firewire HD. What are my chances ? Thanks, Edward From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 11:14:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7BC316A41F for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 11:14:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matteo@freebsd.org) Received: from vsmtp1.tin.it (vsmtp1.tin.it [212.216.176.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40BFD43D46 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 11:14:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matteo@freebsd.org) Received: from scudiero.sig11.org (82.48.161.171) by vsmtp1.tin.it (7.2.060.1) id 4369EC69001A4E76; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 12:14:37 +0100 Received: by scudiero.sig11.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EC5B129B070E; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 12:10:44 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 12:10:42 +0100 From: Matteo Riondato To: edward Message-ID: <20051105111042.GD24121@scudiero.sig11.org> References: <436C8D13.7090606@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <436C8D13.7090606@wanadoo.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Update on FreeBSD 6.0 ppc status ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 11:14:42 -0000 On Sat, Nov 05, 2005 at 11:44:35AM +0100, edward wrote: > "G4 ibooks/powerbooks - internal keyboard/mouse not supported," is that > still an issue ? This make me ask: does the keyboard/mouse in my G3 366 firewire (shell-alike shape) work? Best Regards -- Matteo Riondato FreeBSD Volunteer (http://freebsd.org) G.U.F.I. Staff Member (http://www.gufi.org) FreeSBIE Developer (http://www.freesbie.org) From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 11:53:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABB0916A41F for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 11:53:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joseph.koshy@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4325D43D45 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 11:53:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joseph.koshy@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s9so75617wxc for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2005 03:53:28 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=XJf2ucGgXEdUgoqvuQ81B3ZcWLuNfw0wOYFdRMTIDYRFfXkcI3IJ8bhi7O2alCIoZTxLRojbP5zUtKQJYjELFRFIB5jAl9W9hdVafHlQk3nO1uQK0wgNesfsyS/bH8OkC1GDnj1qzA8kBw+AMbt0mXRXlSO/2g14itv7sd4tJkA= Received: by 10.70.122.10 with SMTP id u10mr3023457wxc; Sat, 05 Nov 2005 03:53:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.105.13 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 03:53:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <84dead720511050353q3be1c086o869e430cf6882dfc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 17:23:28 +0530 From: Joseph Koshy To: edward In-Reply-To: <436C8D13.7090606@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <436C8D13.7090606@wanadoo.fr> Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Update on FreeBSD 6.0 ppc status ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 11:53:29 -0000 > "G4 ibooks/powerbooks - internal keyboard/mouse not > > supported," is that still an issue ? It was, in the 6.0-RC1 ISO I tried. -- FreeBSD Volunteer, http://people.freebsd.org/~jkoshy From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 13:35:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E1C816A41F for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 13:35:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kouye@wanadoo.fr) Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.fr (smtp3.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A0CD43D46 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 13:35:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kouye@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0309.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E6CFB1C00780 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 14:35:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (ASte-Genev-Bois-151-1-4-24.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.121.130.24]) by mwinf0309.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id AF2031C007FB; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 14:35:47 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20051105133547717.AF2031C007FB@mwinf0309.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <436CB533.1030603@wanadoo.fr> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 14:35:47 +0100 From: edward User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051004) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joseph Koshy , freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org References: <436C8D13.7090606@wanadoo.fr> <84dead720511050353q3be1c086o869e430cf6882dfc@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <84dead720511050353q3be1c086o869e430cf6882dfc@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Update on FreeBSD 6.0 ppc status ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 13:35:49 -0000 You mean it was still an issue or it was supported ? Joseph Koshy wrote: >>"G4 ibooks/powerbooks - internal keyboard/mouse not > >>supported," is that still an issue ? > > > It was, in the 6.0-RC1 ISO I tried. > > -- > FreeBSD Volunteer, http://people.freebsd.org/~jkoshy > > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 13:37:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC81416A41F for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 13:37:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from hummer.onthenet.com.au (hummer.onthenet.com.au [203.13.68.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D4C943D49 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 13:37:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.18.169] (CPE-18-169.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.18.169]) by hummer.onthenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A8519FA22; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 23:37:02 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <436CB591.9010500@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 23:37:21 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: edward References: <436C8D13.7090606@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <436C8D13.7090606@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Update on FreeBSD 6.0 ppc status ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 13:37:05 -0000 Hi Edward, > Just wanted to check on what has changed since > http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/ppc.html was updated last june. > Is FreeBSD ppc now usable on a day to day basis (i.e. newbie-proof) or > is it still at a too early stage for that ? I'd say yes to usable, no to newbie-proof. > "G4 ibooks/powerbooks - internal keyboard/mouse not supported," is that > still an issue ? Yes. > Finally, I use a PowerBook Titanium (G4/667), with an external firewire > DVD drive and FreeBSD would be installed on an existing partition on an > external firewire HD. What are my chances ? If you can dig up an external USB keyboard, your chances are excellent. Firewire is supported. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 13:37:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1ABF16A41F; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 13:37:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from hummer.onthenet.com.au (hummer.onthenet.com.au [203.13.68.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7474343D46; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 13:37:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.18.169] (CPE-18-169.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.18.169]) by hummer.onthenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id C13F919FA22; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 23:37:46 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <436CB5BE.5090008@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 23:38:06 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matteo Riondato References: <436C8D13.7090606@wanadoo.fr> <20051105111042.GD24121@scudiero.sig11.org> In-Reply-To: <20051105111042.GD24121@scudiero.sig11.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Update on FreeBSD 6.0 ppc status ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 13:37:47 -0000 > This make me ask: does the keyboard/mouse in my G3 366 firewire > (shell-alike shape) work? Sorry Matteo, not yet :( later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 13:42:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 296A316A41F for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 13:42:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from cayenne.onthenet.com.au (cacheflow.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D91743D46 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 13:42:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.18.169] (CPE-18-169.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.18.169]) by cayenne.onthenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5D5759004 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 23:42:48 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <436CB6EB.4080402@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 23:43:07 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 7.0-snap available X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 13:42:50 -0000 http://www.freebsd.org/~grehan/ppc_iso/7.0-20051105-SNAP-powerpc-disc1.iso This contains the fix for the G4 powermacs that won't boot with 6.0-RELEASE. I'm about to check in a bunch of stuff that may de-stabilise 7.0 a bit so this ISO might stay around for a while. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 13:45:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B4C16A420 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 13:45:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kouye@wanadoo.fr) Received: from smtp8.wanadoo.fr (smtp8.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D36443D46 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 13:45:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kouye@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0804.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 798B41C003CF for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 14:45:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (ASte-Genev-Bois-151-1-4-24.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.121.130.24]) by mwinf0804.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 326971C003E1; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 14:45:07 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20051105134507206.326971C003E1@mwinf0804.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <436CB762.7000008@wanadoo.fr> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 14:45:06 +0100 From: edward User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051004) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Grehan , freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org References: <436C8D13.7090606@wanadoo.fr> <436CB591.9010500@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <436CB591.9010500@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Update on FreeBSD 6.0 ppc status ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 13:45:09 -0000 Thanks Peter. Just for my education, what is keeping FreeBSD from supporting an internal keyboard and trackpad ? Edward Peter Grehan wrote: > Hi Edward, > >> Just wanted to check on what has changed since >> http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/ppc.html was updated last june. >> Is FreeBSD ppc now usable on a day to day basis (i.e. newbie-proof) or >> is it still at a too early stage for that ? > > > I'd say yes to usable, no to newbie-proof. > >> "G4 ibooks/powerbooks - internal keyboard/mouse not supported," is >> that still an issue ? > > > Yes. > >> Finally, I use a PowerBook Titanium (G4/667), with an external >> firewire DVD drive and FreeBSD would be installed on an existing >> partition on an external firewire HD. What are my chances ? > > > If you can dig up an external USB keyboard, your chances are excellent. > Firewire is supported. > > later, > > Peter. > > > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 13:53:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AFE916A41F for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 13:53:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from hummer.onthenet.com.au (hummer.onthenet.com.au [203.13.68.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B49443D46 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 13:53:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.18.169] (CPE-18-169.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.18.169]) by hummer.onthenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id D760D19FCDE; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 23:53:31 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <436CB96F.5080400@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 23:53:51 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: edward References: <436C8D13.7090606@wanadoo.fr> <436CB591.9010500@freebsd.org> <436CB762.7000008@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <436CB762.7000008@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Update on FreeBSD 6.0 ppc status ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 13:53:33 -0000 > Thanks Peter. Just for my education, what is keeping FreeBSD from > supporting an internal keyboard and trackpad ? An oft-asked question :) Unfortunately the code required is an entire stack: syscons keyboard/mouse i/f ------------ adb keyboard/mouse drivers ------------ adb bus code ------------ adb host bridge code ------------ cuda/pmu driver ------------ via6522 shift-register messaging .. and to top it off, the whole shebang should really be able to operate in polled mode from top to bottom if DDB is to be usable. I guess it really needs someone focused to get it done, and to date I just haven't had the time :( later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 22:11:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E84DB16A41F for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 22:11:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (vc4-2-0-87.dsl.netrack.net [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EDB843D48 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 22:11:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1] (may be forged)) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jA5MAx9T046289 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 15:10:59 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 15:11:24 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20051105.151124.27231338.imp@bsdimp.com> To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org From: "M. Warner Losh" X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0 (harmony.bsdimp.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 05 Nov 2005 15:11:00 -0700 (MST) Subject: iMac Bondi 233 and 6.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 22:11:55 -0000 Just tried to boot the cdrom from grehan's directory. kernel loaded OK, but I get: KDB: debugger back ends: ddb KDB: current backend: ddb fatal kernel trap: exception = 0x4 (instruction storage trap) virtual address = 0x3d8f40 srr0 = 0x3d8f40 srr1 = 0x8003032 curthread = 0x46d1a0 pid = 0, comm = [thread pid 0 tid 0 ] stopped at 0x3d8f40: isync db> but I can't interact with the debugger at all. This is on an iMac bondi (G3 233MHz) that was running MAC OS 8.1. ideas? Warner From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 22:40:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09BE916A41F for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 22:40:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from hummer.onthenet.com.au (hummer.onthenet.com.au [203.13.68.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66AEE43D49 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 22:40:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.17.160] (CPE-203-144-17-160.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.17.160]) by hummer.onthenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07CCB19FB2A; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 08:40:24 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <436D34F4.50609@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 08:40:52 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "M. Warner Losh" References: <20051105.151124.27231338.imp@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: <20051105.151124.27231338.imp@bsdimp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: iMac Bondi 233 and 6.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 22:40:26 -0000 > [thread pid 0 tid 0 ] > stopped at 0x3d8f40: isync > db> > > This is on an iMac bondi (G3 233MHz) that was running MAC OS 8.1. > > ideas? Aargh I though I had that fixed in RC1 :( :( Didn't test -RELEASE on a G3 :( It's in pmap_bootstrap when doing the cut-over from OpenFirmware's management of VM to FreeBSD's. I thought it was instruction cache-alignment related but maybe not. Would you be able to try RC1 ? http://people.freebsd.org/~grehan/ppc_iso/6.0-RC1-powerpc-disc1.iso > but I can't interact with the debugger at all. The keyboard doesn't work with the debugger that early in the boot since it's USB and hasn't been probed yet. I've thought in the past about modifying syscons so that the PROM could be used until USB is probed, but it's not pretty. However, it does allow 'boot -d' and diagnosis for these types of panics. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 23:12:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 423A116A41F for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 23:12:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from cayenne.onthenet.com.au (cacheflow.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B0343D46 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 23:12:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.17.160] (CPE-203-144-17-160.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.17.160]) by cayenne.onthenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59AEB759047; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 09:12:45 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <436D3C89.10604@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 09:13:13 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "M. Warner Losh" References: <20051105.151124.27231338.imp@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: <20051105.151124.27231338.imp@bsdimp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: iMac Bondi 233 and 6.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 23:12:47 -0000 > but I can't interact with the debugger at all. This is on an iMac > bondi (G3 233MHz) that was running MAC OS 8.1. > > ideas? Just tried the 7.0-snap iso and it works fine. I suspect it's an instruction alignment problem - I may have to move that code sequence to an asm routine to try and ensure that changes in other pieces of code don't shift it around. When I thought I'd fixed it, I'd probably just moved it back to an OK place :( later, Peter.