From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 30 14:39:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8C016A41F; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 14:39:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from soc-emily@freebsd.org) Received: from vorlon.rememberthemilk.com (vorlon.rememberthemilk.com [72.21.39.91]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2316F43D45; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 14:39:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from soc-emily@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by vorlon.rememberthemilk.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F70DD4002; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 14:39:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vorlon.rememberthemilk.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (vorlon.rememberthemilk.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10398-04; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 14:39:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (unknown [131.229.165.130]) by vorlon.rememberthemilk.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F6AD4001; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 14:39:55 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4364DB39.7030502@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 09:39:53 -0500 From: Emily Boyd User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org References: <861x2t280w.fsf@xps.des.no> <434AA5E2.10305@freebsd.org> <20051028110537.M36787@freeman.4gh.net> In-Reply-To: <20051028110537.M36787@freeman.4gh.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rememberthemilk.com Subject: Re: width of #container X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 14:39:58 -0000 Stuart, >>I'm going to take a look at creating a variable width version of the >>CSS this week - I may have to also change the design of the front >>page so that it's more suited to variable width. > > What is the status of this? The site still appears to be fixed width. I'm currently overseas (heading back home today) so will be working on this once I'm back. It's definitely coming :) Emily From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 30 18:35:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB4616A41F for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 18:35:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from heinricf@mailstore.FernUni-Hagen.de) Received: from cl-mailhost.FernUni-Hagen.de (tamarack.fernuni-hagen.de [132.176.114.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0468C43D46 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 18:35:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from heinricf@mailstore.FernUni-Hagen.de) Received: from mailstore.fernuni-hagen.de ([132.176.114.185]) by cl-mailhost.FernUni-Hagen.de with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1EWI1X-0001mx-Ua for freebsd-www@freebsd.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 19:35:19 +0100 Received: from [80.144.105.28] (account heinricf HELO [192.168.70.111]) by mailstore.fernuni-hagen.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 13518611 for freebsd-www@freebsd.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 19:35:19 +0100 Message-ID: <43651266.8070501@FernUni-Hagen.de> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 19:35:18 +0100 From: Fritz Heinrichmeyer User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051026) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-prewhitelist: your reply will pass through without greylisting Subject: new web design: color of visited links no more distinguishable X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 18:35:21 -0000 now in the maillist overviews visited links are no more indicated by different color, which clearly is a regression. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Fritz Heinrichmeyer FernUniversität, LG ES, 58084 Hagen (Germany) tel:+49 2331/987-1166 fax:987-355 From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 30 19:30:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D673516A41F for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 19:30:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C988143D53 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 19:30:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9UJUEUu074060 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 19:30:14 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9UJUEg1074059; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 19:30:14 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 19:30:14 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200510301930.j9UJUEg1074059@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-www@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, "Bjoern A. Zeeb" Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4536716A41F for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 19:20:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bz@zabbadoz.net) Received: from transport.cksoft.de (transport.cksoft.de [62.111.66.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D192643D48 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 19:20:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bz@zabbadoz.net) Received: from transport.cksoft.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by transport.cksoft.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97FF11FF90C for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 20:20:08 +0100 (CET) Received: by transport.cksoft.de (Postfix, from userid 66) id 290B11FF9AD; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 20:20:06 +0100 (CET) Received: by mail.int.zabbadoz.net (Postfix, from userid 1060) id 03F2D157F2; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 19:15:15 +0000 (UTC) Message-Id: <20051030191515.03F2D157F2@mail.int.zabbadoz.net> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 19:15:15 +0000 (UTC) From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Cc: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" Subject: www/88251: new entry for platforms/amd64/motherboards.html GA-K8NXP-SLI X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 19:30:15 -0000 >Number: 88251 >Category: www >Synopsis: new entry for platforms/amd64/motherboards.html GA-K8NXP-SLI >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-www >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: update >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Oct 30 19:30:14 GMT 2005 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Bjoern A. Zeeb >Release: FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT amd64 >Organization: Zabbadoz.NeT >Environment: System: FreeBSD foo 7.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #0: Sun Oct 30 18:31:51 UTC 2005 bz@foo:/path/to/HEAD/sys/KERNEL amd64 >Description: new entry for platforms/amd64/motherboards.html: Giga-Byte GA-K8NXP-SLI http://www.giga-byte.com/MotherBoard/Products/Products_GA-K8NXP-SLI.htm nVidia nForce4 Socket 939 "Bjoern A. Zeeb" 7-CURRENT (Oct 2005) Notes: - nve(4) not working at all - no driver for 2nd onboard NIC (Marvell 88E8053) - BIOS rev. F7 seems to be most stable - BIOS rev. F8,F9 break LBA48 support - BIOS rev. 10s (beta) stability problems (hard locks) - Audio and SATA-RAID, USB, FW, etc. not tested >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 30 21:20:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D9F16A41F for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 21:20:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04F7443D48 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 21:20:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9ULKLLS090615 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 21:20:21 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9ULKLWP090614; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 21:20:21 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 21:20:21 GMT Message-Id: <200510302120.j9ULKLWP090614@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-www@FreeBSD.org From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" Cc: Subject: Re: www/88251: new entry for platforms/amd64/motherboards.html GA-K8NXP-SLI X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 21:20:22 -0000 The following reply was made to PR www/88251; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: www/88251: new entry for platforms/amd64/motherboards.html GA-K8NXP-SLI Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 21:13:59 +0000 (UTC) I have uploaded some dmesg output from dmesg -a or serial console for further reference. See http://www.zabbadoz.net/zabbadoz-network/y2k/GA-K8NXP-SLI/ two kernels (same source, same config except one w/ and one w/o atpic) booted on the same machine with BIOS revision F7 and 10s(beta). From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 30 23:45:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: www@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0FEA16A423 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 23:45:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fenner@research.att.com) Received: from mail-white.research.att.com (mail-red.research.att.com [192.20.225.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8824F43D48 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 23:45:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fenner@research.att.com) Received: from bright.research.att.com (bright.research.att.com [135.207.20.189]) by mail-green.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 620DD84CF; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 18:45:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from fenner@localhost) by bright.research.att.com (8.12.11/8.12.10/Submit) id j9UNj9gt023209; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 15:45:09 -0800 From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <200510302345.j9UNj9gt023209@bright.research.att.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII To: Brooks Davis Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 15:45:08 -0700 Versions: dmail (linux) 2.7/makemail 2.14 Cc: www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvsweb glitch X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 23:45:13 -0000 The repository that cvsweb uses is the live repoman repository. It looks like the log message for rev 1.4.2.1 wigs out cvsweb. (In particular, it thinks the long line of equals signs marks the end of the "cvs log" output.) cvsweb parses the output of "cvs log", so when log messages are indistinguishable from the output of "cvs log", there is no way for cvsweb to tell which is which. It's been on my todo list for nearly 10 years to make cvsweb read the ,v directly to avoid this problem. Bill From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 00:06:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDC7F16A41F for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 00:06:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fenner@research.att.com) Received: from mail-white.research.att.com (mail-red.research.att.com [192.20.225.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96F8943D46 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 00:06:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fenner@research.att.com) Received: from bright.research.att.com (bright.research.att.com [135.207.20.189]) by mail-blue.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5EC147A99; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 19:06:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from fenner@localhost) by bright.research.att.com (8.12.11/8.12.10/Submit) id j9V06CQp023678; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 16:06:12 -0800 From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <200510310006.j9V06CQp023678@bright.research.att.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII To: Fritz Heinrichmeyer Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 16:06:12 -0700 Versions: dmail (linux) 2.7/makemail 2.14 Cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new web design: color of visited links no more distinguishable X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 00:06:14 -0000 >now in the maillist overviews visited links are no more indicated by >different color Fixed. I only did this inside the list of messages, since you probably don't care whether or not you've visited the other sort orders or the FreeBSD home page. Bill From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 06:40:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5684316A41F for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 06:40:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFE4743D48 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 06:40:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9V6eBC4064593 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 06:40:11 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9V6eBTq064592; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 06:40:11 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 06:40:11 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200510310640.j9V6eBTq064592@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-www@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Wang Lam Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3575F16A41F for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 06:35:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0DB743D45 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 06:35:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9V6Z7et050995 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 06:35:07 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j9V6Z79F050993; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 06:35:07 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200510310635.j9V6Z79F050993@www.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 06:35:07 GMT From: Wang Lam To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-2.3 Cc: Subject: www/88263: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi output invokes stylesheet available on www.freebsd.org but not docs.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 06:40:12 -0000 >Number: 88263 >Category: www >Synopsis: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi output invokes stylesheet available on www.freebsd.org but not docs.freebsd.org >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-www >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Oct 31 06:40:11 GMT 2005 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Wang Lam >Release: >Organization: >Environment: >Description: Some pages generated by http://docs/cgi/mid.cgi refer to /layout/* files, and not http://www.FreeBSD.org/layout/* files as http://docs/cgi/getmsg.cgi does. For example, mid.cgi: getmsg.cgi: On Firefox, getmsg.cgi renders nicely but mid.cgi has no style applied. >How-To-Repeat: >From a mailing-list-archive message, select "Next in thread", e.g. go from http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=485248+0+archive/2005/freebsd-stable/20051030.freebsd-stable (which looks fine) to http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?db=irt&id=43616CEA.9020600@xena.ipaustralia.gov.au (which is unstyled). >Fix: Either prefix http://www.FreeBSD.org/ to occurrences of /layout/ in mid.cgi, or sync http://www.FreeBSD.org/layout to http://docs.FreeBSD.org/layout. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 09:01:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D54D916A421; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 09:01:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 504C343D73; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 09:01:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (pav@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9V91kai083963; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 09:01:46 GMT (envelope-from pav@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from pav@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9V91kZZ083959; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 09:01:46 GMT (envelope-from pav) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 09:01:46 GMT From: Pav Lucistnik Message-Id: <200510310901.j9V91kZZ083959@freefall.freebsd.org> To: pav@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-www@FreeBSD.org, pav@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: www/88251: new entry for platforms/amd64/motherboards.html GA-K8NXP-SLI X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 09:01:53 -0000 Synopsis: new entry for platforms/amd64/motherboards.html GA-K8NXP-SLI Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-www->pav Responsible-Changed-By: pav Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Oct 31 09:01:38 GMT 2005 Responsible-Changed-Why: Take http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=88251 From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 11:02:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8953016A41F for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 11:02:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCF7C43D86 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 11:02:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9VB2Xxn009157 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 11:02:33 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9VB2Wsa009151 for freebsd-www@freebsd.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 11:02:32 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 11:02:32 GMT Message-Id: <200510311102.j9VB2Wsa009151@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-www@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to you X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 11:02:50 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2003/04/18] www/51135 www Problems with the mailing-lists search in o [2004/03/06] www/63854 www PR-web page loses text o [2005/10/23] www/87864 www manpage web frontend is missing new FreeB o [2005/10/25] www/87993 www 2 docu hyperlinks doesn't contain content 4 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2002/03/07] www/35647 www www; combine query-by-number and multi-fi s [2002/05/24] www/38500 www gnats web form is overenthusiastic about o [2004/01/24] www/61824 www Misleading documentation on FreeBSD insta o [2004/06/04] www/67554 www man-cgi visual glitch on 3-word titles o [2004/11/05] www/73549 www Mail list archive navigation difficulty o [2005/01/05] www/75830 www ports.cgi used ports/INDEX from CVS o [2005/08/27] www/85333 www BSDTechTalk community with tutorials is n o [2005/10/07] www/87025 www Website inconsistency: missing platforms o [2005/10/09] www/87144 www New site has "Submit Bug" link under "Sec o [2005/10/09] www/87152 www Missing Link o [2005/10/09] www/87153 www Missing Links in Table www/german o [2005/10/27] www/88084 www fortune not found in online man pages o [2005/10/31] www/88263 www http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi outpu 13 problems total. From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 30 14:06:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E42C16A41F; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 14:06:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from delphij@frontfree.net) Received: from tarsier.geekcn.org (tarsier.geekcn.org [210.51.165.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42E8E43D45; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 14:06:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from delphij@frontfree.net) Received: from localhost (tarsier.geekcn.org [210.51.165.229]) by tarsier.geekcn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A7EDEB0DBE; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:06:41 +0800 (CST) Received: from tarsier.geekcn.org ([210.51.165.229]) by localhost (mail.geekcn.org [210.51.165.229]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 82145-09; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:06:38 +0800 (CST) Received: from beastie.frontfree.net (unknown [211.71.95.7]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tarsier.geekcn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CC2FEB09E7; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:06:36 +0800 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost.frontfree.net [127.0.0.1]) by beastie.frontfree.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 026A1131378; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:06:25 +0800 (CST) Received: from beastie.frontfree.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (beastie.frontfree.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 82965-01; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:06:24 +0800 (CST) Received: by beastie.frontfree.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C4639131232; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:06:23 +0800 (CST) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:06:23 +0800 From: Xin LI To: "Lin, Shih-Min" Message-ID: <20051030140623.GA82653@frontfree.net> References: <53EF8EA01F1F5241BAB680A851B4F03F1E128C@ex4.its.waikato.ac.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53EF8EA01F1F5241BAB680A851B4F03F1E128C@ex4.its.waikato.ac.nz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-key-ID/Fingerprint: 0xCAEEB8C0 / 43B8 B703 B8DD 0231 B333 DC28 39FB 93A0 CAEE B8C0 X-GPG-Public-Key: http://www.delphij.net/delphij.asc X-Operating-System: FreeBSD beastie.frontfree.net 5.4-RELEASE-p6 FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p6 #4: Thu Jul 28 10:59:26 CST 2005 delphij@beastie.frontfree.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BEASTIE i386 X-URL: http://www.delphij.net X-By: delphij@beastie.frontfree.net X-Location: Beijing, China X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at frontfree.net X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at geekcn.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:43:11 +0000 Cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org, foxfair@FreeBSD.org, delphij@FreeBSD.org, vanilla@FreeBSD.org, clive@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Empty "The FreeBSD Traditional Chinese Documentation Project" X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 14:06:45 -0000 --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 07, 2005 at 09:02:32PM +1300, Lin, Shih-Min wrote: > Hi there, >=20 > I noticed that the documents of "The FreeBSD Traditional Chinese Document= ation Project" seem to be out-dated. The mailing list subscribing address "= majordomo@freebsd.sinica.edu.tw" seems to be invalid as well. Is the projec= t still proceeding? If possible I would be happy to give the project a hand= (can't do too much at once, though). >=20 > PS: Is the address "foxfair@freebsd.org" in the page "FreeBSD Documentati= on Project: Translations" still valid?? Since there does not seem to be more official response from the Traditional Chinese translation team, I think I can tell something I am aware of. Last time I have an online conversation with Shen Chuan-Hsing ("statue") he told me that he is the de-facto project keeper and now he is in military service and would be hopefully released at the end of this year. BTW. I think foxfair@, clive@, and vanilla@ can give some more useful information about the Traditional Chinese translation project. We (the Simplified Chinese Project) would be happy to provide help of any kind (CVS service, etc), if necessary. Cheers, --=20 Xin LI http://www.delphij.net/ See complete headers for GPG key and other information. --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDZNNf/cVsHxFZiIoRAsq5AJ9EKXohwfSFp4KcG+UIAAUExNiKYwCePGYf DVuli06pcJIKStYdt9gSpsM= =fv+3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g-- From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 15:25:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D6F16A41F; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:25:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fenner@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012F843D4C; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:25:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fenner@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (fenner@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9VFPg8j091483; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:25:42 GMT (envelope-from fenner@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from fenner@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9VFPga8091479; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:25:42 GMT (envelope-from fenner) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:25:42 GMT From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <200510311525.j9VFPga8091479@freefall.freebsd.org> To: fenner@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-www@FreeBSD.org, fenner@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: www/88263: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi output invokes stylesheet available on www.freebsd.org but not docs.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:25:43 -0000 Synopsis: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi output invokes stylesheet available on www.freebsd.org but not docs.freebsd.org Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-www->fenner Responsible-Changed-By: fenner Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Oct 31 15:25:30 GMT 2005 Responsible-Changed-Why: I added the style to the CGI scripts. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=88263 From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 16:11:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7353716A41F for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:11:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jimmiejaz@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A7143D45 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:11:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jimmiejaz@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i28so118296wxd for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:11:42 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=FcmDiUuA0tDZVM2ntgfHFbke7YL25/D7SaYzcwyHBRu6jNKMv6llPselMa8wtx0acLp9Vk84liQjF3GF9MIJPb8cgQkFrnrtgAAHt8/dcG+fQLQoFbKO6U6qF9+7qC6/NGaxCnfHteqppg4/UDA4BZ8IyTrkVYX8uiOwZM+Rwd8= Received: by 10.70.14.9 with SMTP id 9mr1716599wxn; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:11:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.34.5 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:11:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7e148fb90510310811p59fc801cq2d39003fc0c9b9ff@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 11:11:42 -0500 From: Jimmie James To: freebsd-www@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Broken mailing list arcive. X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:11:44 -0000 Not sure if this is the right list... Following the changes to the site, it seems lists that don't have any messages, are broken, missing parts of the page (graphics and the like) Check any list from http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/current/ and compare, http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/current/freebsd-ipfw.html to http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/current/freebsd-isp.html (or any list that has no messages) Screenshots: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/jimmiejaz/list1.jpg <-- broken http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/jimmiejaz/list.jpg <-- works fine. From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 16:14:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A28E16A41F; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:14:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from remko@freebsd.org) Received: from caelis.elvandar.org (caelis.elvandar.org [217.148.169.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F110E43D46; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:14:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from remko@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (caelis.elvandar.org [217.148.169.59]) by caelis.elvandar.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88388930D25; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 17:14:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from caelis.elvandar.org ([217.148.169.59]) by localhost (caelis.elvandar.org [217.148.169.59]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16209-08; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 17:14:30 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43664355.7060308@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 17:16:21 +0100 From: Remko Lodder User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Macintosh/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jimmie James References: <7e148fb90510310811p59fc801cq2d39003fc0c9b9ff@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7e148fb90510310811p59fc801cq2d39003fc0c9b9ff@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by the elvandar.org maildomain Cc: freebsd-www@FreeBSD.org, fenner@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Broken mailing list arcive. X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: remko@FreeBSD.org List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:14:32 -0000 Jimmie James wrote: > Not sure if this is the right list... > > Following the changes to the site, it seems lists that don't have any > messages, are broken, missing parts of the page (graphics and the like) > > Check any list from http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/current/ and compare, > http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/current/freebsd-ipfw.html to > http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/current/freebsd-isp.html (or any list that has > no messages) > > Screenshots: > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/jimmiejaz/list1.jpg <-- broken > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/jimmiejaz/list.jpg <-- works fine. Hi there, Bill Fenner just updated some scripts, so perhaps this need a little refresh time. Please hang on a bit. (Bill is CC'ed to this message in case this is a different problem then the fix he committed not so long ago) Cheers, Remko -- Kind regards, Remko Lodder ** remko@elvandar.org FreeBSD ** remko@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 16:44:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A614B16A41F; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:44:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fenner@research.att.com) Received: from mail-yellow.research.att.com (mail-dark.research.att.com [192.20.225.112]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D74B43D46; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:44:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fenner@research.att.com) Received: from bright.research.att.com (bright.research.att.com [135.207.20.189]) by mail-blue.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DB5C147BD9; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 11:44:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from fenner@localhost) by bright.research.att.com (8.12.11/8.12.10/Submit) id j9VGi7gq012736; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:44:07 -0800 From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <200510311644.j9VGi7gq012736@bright.research.att.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII To: remko@freebsd.org References: <7e148fb90510310811p59fc801cq2d39003fc0c9b9ff@mail.gmail.com> <43664355.7060308@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:44:07 -0700 Versions: dmail (linux) 2.7/makemail 2.14 Cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org, Jimmie James Subject: Re: Broken mailing list arcive. X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:44:08 -0000 I fixed this on Saturday night around 1am (the second one) but archives that haven't been updated since then still look wrong. I was planning on waiting to see what gets updated when before I forced any updates. Bill From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 21:47:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E9F16A41F; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 21:47:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 082A743D45; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 21:47:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9VLlWVP034397; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 22:47:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id j9VLlWlx034395; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 22:47:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [192.168.0.104] (plum.panke.de.freebsd.org [192.168.0.104]) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9VLjRkh016143; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 22:45:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <43669072.6070405@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 22:45:22 +0100 From: Wolfram Schneider User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Macintosh/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Fenner References: <7e148fb90510310811p59fc801cq2d39003fc0c9b9ff@mail.gmail.com> <43664355.7060308@FreeBSD.org> <200510311644.j9VGi7gq012736@bright.research.att.com> In-Reply-To: <200510311644.j9VGi7gq012736@bright.research.att.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-www@FreeBSD.org, remko@FreeBSD.org, Jimmie James Subject: Re: Broken mailing list arcive. X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 21:47:35 -0000 Bill Fenner wrote: >I fixed this on Saturday night around 1am (the second one) but >archives that haven't been updated since then still look wrong. >I was planning on waiting to see what gets updated when before >I forced any updates. > I forced an update to the complete mailing list archive. It will be available on the web site in the next half hour. btw Bill, thanks for your work! -Wolfram -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 23:15:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA4516A41F for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 23:15:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jimmiejaz@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8047A43D4C for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 23:15:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jimmiejaz@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i28so273800wxd for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:15:04 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ig9aNwULRkxfiicHkyFackSo2/YaWy8d6zXPHDgNnxDypv3TLhw2n/sBQHZWghYEupRKOCNKsegpvuMUYBKlYB7pTmc0ngYDH/jFPctcy/AEUUS878LwpshCI0E4apIgJ1SgeypuAi56bftMH8bEil7aeDh+QHtjWGN7j0MspfQ= Received: by 10.70.15.10 with SMTP id 10mr2014007wxo; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:15:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.34.5 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:15:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7e148fb90510311515h72eca3a2tecd5462c319ad94a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 18:15:04 -0500 From: Jimmie James To: Wolfram Schneider In-Reply-To: <43669072.6070405@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7e148fb90510310811p59fc801cq2d39003fc0c9b9ff@mail.gmail.com> <43664355.7060308@FreeBSD.org> <200510311644.j9VGi7gq012736@bright.research.att.com> <43669072.6070405@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Bill Fenner , freebsd-www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Broken mailing list arcive. X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 23:15:06 -0000 On 10/31/05, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > > Bill Fenner wrote: > > >I fixed this on Saturday night around 1am (the second one) but > >archives that haven't been updated since then still look wrong. > >I was planning on waiting to see what gets updated when before > >I forced any updates. > > > >I forced an update to the complete mailing list archive. It > >will be available on the web site in the next half hour. > > >btw Bill, thanks for your work! > > >-Wolfram > > > I second that, very slick! I wasn't sure if it was a known issue or not, so I thought I'd mention it. Cheers. From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 23:25:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F69B16A41F; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 23:25:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from foxfair@drago.fomokka.net) Received: from drago.fomokka.net (drago.fomokka.net [140.117.205.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 318FC43D5F; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 23:25:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from foxfair@drago.fomokka.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (drago.fomokka.net [140.117.205.233]) by drago.fomokka.net (8.12.11/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9VNa9SK093065; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 07:36:09 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from foxfair@drago.fomokka.net) Message-ID: <4366A8DA.5010309@drago.fomokka.net> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 07:29:30 +0800 From: Foxfair Hu User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Xin LI References: <53EF8EA01F1F5241BAB680A851B4F03F1E128C@ex4.its.waikato.ac.nz> <20051030140623.GA82653@frontfree.net> In-Reply-To: <20051030140623.GA82653@frontfree.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 13:59:44 +0000 Cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org, delphij@freebsd.org, "Lin, Shih-Min" , vanilla@freebsd.org, clive@freebsd.org, foxfair@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Empty "The FreeBSD Traditional Chinese Documentation Project" X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 23:25:17 -0000 Xin LI wrote: > On Fri, Oct 07, 2005 at 09:02:32PM +1300, Lin, Shih-Min wrote: > >>Hi there, >> >>I noticed that the documents of "The FreeBSD Traditional Chinese Documentation Project" seem to be out-dated. The mailing list subscribing address "majordomo@freebsd.sinica.edu.tw" seems to be invalid as well. Is the project still proceeding? If possible I would be happy to give the project a hand (can't do too much at once, though). >> >>PS: Is the address "foxfair@freebsd.org" in the page "FreeBSD Documentation Project: Translations" still valid?? > still valid, i did reply to your email once. > > Since there does not seem to be more official response from the > Traditional Chinese translation team, I think I can tell something > I am aware of. > > Last time I have an online conversation with Shen Chuan-Hsing ("statue") > he told me that he is the de-facto project keeper and now he is > in military service and would be hopefully released at the end > of this year. > > BTW. I think foxfair@, clive@, and vanilla@ can give some more > useful information about the Traditional Chinese translation > project. We (the Simplified Chinese Project) would be happy > to provide help of any kind (CVS service, etc), if necessary. > > Cheers, Shih-Min, I'd like to start TC FreeBSD doc stuff over, but too many interrupts in real life stop me. As I said in my email, if you have any patch/update/diff, send to me and i will commit it for you. cheers, foxfair From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 1 15:14:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52DF116A41F for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 15:14:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd-unix@comcast.net) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A959E43D5D for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 15:14:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd-unix@comcast.net) Received: from kt.weeble.com (pcp858615pcs.ptchar01.fl.comcast.net[68.56.224.228]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2005110115145301500bdvfre>; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 15:14:53 +0000 Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 10:14:52 -0500 From: Randy Pratt To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20051101101452.4f3fb26e.bsd-unix@comcast.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.5 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.11) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Huge fixed-width fonts on web mailing list archive X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 15:14:55 -0000 I'm seeing huge font size differences on the new layout of the mailing list web pages. Here's an example: http://myfreebsd.homeunix.net/newlist.png And for comparison, here is how other fixed-width fonts display (i.e., the
 tag:

  http://myfreebsd.homeunix.net/fixed_width.png

I'm using Opera 8.5 on FreeBSD 4.11-stable.  I'll grant you that
configuring fonts in Opera is a real mess.  I've tried adjusting my 
local preferences so that the mailing lists are more 'normal'
but that results in other sites with fixed-width fonts being tiny
and unreadable.

This is with the mailing list archives and not the Mailman style
pages.  The bigger fonts are much easier to read but take a lot
of scrolling to read the messages.

Mozilla displays the same characteristics with the font sizes.  The
text mode browsers I've tried display the fonts correctly (presumably
because they ignore CSS).

Anyway, its good to see the site getting a face lift after so many
years!

Randy

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GUFICon#6 - Perugia (Italy) on December 3-4, 2005 

The Italian FreeBSD users group (G.U.F.I. - Gruppo Utenti FreeBSD
Italia) is proud to announce that the GUFICon#6 will be held in
Perugia city on days December 3-4, 2005.
GUFICon is the annual, free and open for anyone meeting organized
by G.U.F.I.; staff members will be attending and various
technical themes on FreeBSD will be performed by themselves and by
external relaters (guests are Greg Lehey e George Georgalis).
On http://www.gufi.org/guficon/ (italian only) you can find info and a
free registration form.

Info at: http://www.gufi.org/guficon/
guficon@gufi.org

Teresa De Francia 

------------------------------------------------------------------
Italian Version

GUFICon#6 - Perugia (Italy), 3 e 4 Decembre 2005 

Il GUFI (Gruppo Utenti FreeBSD Italia) organizza la GUFICon#6 nei giorni
3 e 4 Dicembre 2005 a Perugia, nell'Aula Magna della Facolta' di
Agraria.
Il programma della convention prevede numerosi interventi di diverso
approfondimento tecnico, tenuti anche da membri del GUFI e da
sviluppatori di FreeBSD stesso (fra gli ospiti Greg Lehey e George
Georgalis).
Su http://www.gufi.org/guficon/ troverete l'iscrizione alla
manifestazione (GRATUITA ma gradita), il programma completo, le
informazioni su come raggiungere la manifestazione e le strutture per
l'ospitalita'.

Per info: http://www.gufi.org/guficon/
guficon@gufi.org


Teresa De Francia 



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On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 05:34:19PM +0100, Teresa wrote:
> GUFICon#6 - Perugia (Italy) on December 3-4, 2005 

Thanks!  I modified the English a bit then the following :

+  
+    GUFICon #6
+    http://www.gufi.org/guficon/
+    
+      2005
+      12
+      3
+    
+    
+      2005
+      12
+      4
+    
+    
+      Italy
+      Perugia
+    
+
+    The Italian FreeBSD users group (G.U.F.I. - Gruppo
+      Utenti FreeBSD Italia) is proud to announce the 6th annual
+      GUFICon.  It will be held in Perugia, Italy on December 3-4,
+      2005.  As always, GUFICon is free and open to all.  Members of
+      the Italian FreeBSD community as well as special international
+      guests such as Greg Lehey and George Georgalis will present on
+      many technical themes.  See the website for more information
and
+      free registration.
+  
+

	- Murray

> 
> The Italian FreeBSD users group (G.U.F.I. - Gruppo Utenti FreeBSD
> Italia) is proud to announce that the GUFICon#6 will be held in
> Perugia city on days December 3-4, 2005.
> GUFICon is the annual, free and open for anyone meeting organized
> by G.U.F.I.; staff members will be attending and various
> technical themes on FreeBSD will be performed by themselves and by
> external relaters (guests are Greg Lehey e George Georgalis).
> On http://www.gufi.org/guficon/ (italian only) you can find info and a
> free registration form.
> 
> Info at: http://www.gufi.org/guficon/
> guficon@gufi.org
> 
> Teresa De Francia 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Italian Version
> 
> GUFICon#6 - Perugia (Italy), 3 e 4 Decembre 2005 
> 
> Il GUFI (Gruppo Utenti FreeBSD Italia) organizza la GUFICon#6 nei giorni
> 3 e 4 Dicembre 2005 a Perugia, nell'Aula Magna della Facolta' di
> Agraria.
> Il programma della convention prevede numerosi interventi di diverso
> approfondimento tecnico, tenuti anche da membri del GUFI e da
> sviluppatori di FreeBSD stesso (fra gli ospiti Greg Lehey e George
> Georgalis).
> Su http://www.gufi.org/guficon/ troverete l'iscrizione alla
> manifestazione (GRATUITA ma gradita), il programma completo, le
> informazioni su come raggiungere la manifestazione e le strutture per
> l'ospitalita'.
> 
> Per info: http://www.gufi.org/guficon/
> guficon@gufi.org
> 
> 
> Teresa De Francia 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-www
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On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 02:14:14PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> On 2005-10-31 21:51, Gary Kline  wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 03:30:50AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> > > A web page with shell script collections and a link posted to the
> > > list would be *much* more preferable, if you ask me.  A web page
> > > is easier to extend later on, reorganize, categorize, present in
> > > multiple ways, etc. without increasing the traffic of the list
> > > immensely.
> > 
> > I'd be willing to host a scripts website here; I already 
> > have a slew of hits of  my ThinkPad and CTWM pages.
> > 
> > But the scripts would have to be drop-in-able.  Otherwise,
> > would freebsd.org be willing to donate a few pages?
> 
> I'm not sure.  Since this sounds good, it's not (IMHO) a bad idea
> to bring it up in the freebsd-doc or freebsd-www lists, to see if
> people have similar plans already or would support such a project.
> 

	What's the best way of suggesting that we (fbsd.org) support a page of
	"best scripts"??

	(Another beneficial project that would only require 
	mailing in a function or n functions would be to submit
	functions that do a given task.  A few lines of description
	and example use, of course.)

	gary

	PS:  I've cc'd www with this.  If anybody is interested,
	     let's discuss it.  --At least a collection of 
	     best /bin/sh scripts.


> 

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There's no good reason to copy two lists at the same time for this.
Please remove -questions from the Cc: list of the thread :-/

On 2005-11-01 10:59, Gary Kline  wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 02:14:14PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> > > But the scripts would have to be drop-in-able.  Otherwise,
> > > would freebsd.org be willing to donate a few pages?
> > 
> > I'm not sure.  Since this sounds good, it's not (IMHO) a bad idea
> > to bring it up in the freebsd-doc or freebsd-www lists, to see if
> > people have similar plans already or would support such a project.
> > 
> 
> What's the best way of suggesting that we (fbsd.org) support a page of
> "best scripts"?? [...]
>
> PS:  I've cc'd www with this.  If anybody is interested, [...]


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On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 09:08:58PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> There's no good reason to copy two lists at the same time for this.
> Please remove -questions from the Cc: list of the thread :-/

	I see that the -questions addr is gone.


	This is to those on the -www list; the issue is 
	having a separate page or two of /bin/sh scripts 
	that do X, Y, Z.  

	I realize the time involved if hundreds of shell
	hackers submit their favorite scripts.  But if it
	sounds worth trying, there could be a scripts 
	index.php|html page with a few categories to start.
	Each script must be submitted with:

	CATEGORY: system admin
	FUNCTION: backup [using tar and bzip] files.
	FEATURES: optional use of --exclude

	etc.

	A shell or perl script could probably strip the
	mail and convert it to web-ready format.  Having 
	many (*proven*) scripts would be a major++ for 
	sysadmins.  At least.  Ok, I'll get off my soapbox.


	Feedback?

	gary


> 
> On 2005-11-01 10:59, Gary Kline  wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 02:14:14PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> > > > But the scripts would have to be drop-in-able.  Otherwise,
> > > > would freebsd.org be willing to donate a few pages?
> > > 
> > > I'm not sure.  Since this sounds good, it's not (IMHO) a bad idea
> > > to bring it up in the freebsd-doc or freebsd-www lists, to see if
> > > people have similar plans already or would support such a project.
> > > 
> > 
> > What's the best way of suggesting that we (fbsd.org) support a page of
> > "best scripts"?? [...]
> >
> > PS:  I've cc'd www with this.  If anybody is interested, [...]
> 

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Gary Kline wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 09:08:58PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> 
>>There's no good reason to copy two lists at the same time for this.
>>Please remove -questions from the Cc: list of the thread :-/
> 
> 
> 	I see that the -questions addr is gone.
> 
> 
> 	This is to those on the -www list; the issue is 
> 	having a separate page or two of /bin/sh scripts 
> 	that do X, Y, Z.  
> 
> 	I realize the time involved if hundreds of shell
> 	hackers submit their favorite scripts.  But if it
> 	sounds worth trying, there could be a scripts 
> 	index.php|html page with a few categories to start.
> 	Each script must be submitted with:
> 
> 	CATEGORY: system admin
> 	FUNCTION: backup [using tar and bzip] files.
> 	FEATURES: optional use of --exclude
> 
> 	etc.
> 
> 	A shell or perl script could probably strip the
> 	mail and convert it to web-ready format.  Having 
> 	many (*proven*) scripts would be a major++ for 
> 	sysadmins.  At least.  Ok, I'll get off my soapbox.
> 
> 
> 	Feedback?
> 
> 	gary
> 
> 

The idea seems good (imo) but i am not sure how it should be
done. I'd guess it first needs a tryout on something else
then a FreeBSD server, (the way like many projects started
and are now more and more supported by the crowd).

my little input...

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      Remko Lodder               ** remko@elvandar.org
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On Nov 1, 2005, at 12:59 PM, Gary Kline wrote:
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> 	What's the best way of suggesting that we (fbsd.org) support a  
> page of
> 	"best scripts"??
>
> 	(Another beneficial project that would only require
> 	mailing in a function or n functions would be to submit
> 	functions that do a given task.  A few lines of description
> 	and example use, of course.)
>
> 	gary
>
> 	PS:  I've cc'd www with this.  If anybody is interested,
> 	     let's discuss it.  --At least a collection of
> 	     best /bin/sh scripts.


It's been too long since I contributed... I'd be willing to discuss  
and perhaps help out in some manner with a project like this.


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> On Nov 1, 2005, at 12:59 PM, Gary Kline wrote:
> >
> >	What's the best way of suggesting that we (fbsd.org) support a  
> >page of
> >	"best scripts"??
> >
> >	(Another beneficial project that would only require
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> >
> >	gary
> >
> >	PS:  I've cc'd www with this.  If anybody is interested,
> >	     let's discuss it.  --At least a collection of
> >	     best /bin/sh scripts.
> 
> 
> It's been too long since I contributed... I'd be willing to discuss  
> and perhaps help out in some manner with a project like this.
> 
> 
> 
	I think if you point at bsd.thought.org you'll find 
	a stub; it was to have been for a BSD sysadmin book.
	Ran out of steam.   Anyway, like everybody doing this
	kind of volunteer work, I've got negative time:-)
	But the space for some text-only scripts.

	Let's say we request people submit only their sh script
	(to start).   What would the format need to be so that 
	a script could parse email and auto-HTML the script?'

	I suggested a few headers [in all CAPS]; what else?

	gary



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>Number:         88385
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>Synopsis:       Internet Service Providers
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>Description:
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I will work on this.

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=88385

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On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 02:20:51PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:

> 	Let's say we request people submit only their sh script
> 	(to start).   What would the format need to be so that=20
> 	a script could parse email and auto-HTML the script?'

 #!/bin/sh --
 portinstall squirrelmail

Did I win a biscuit? :)

Ceri
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On 2005-11-02 12:07, Gary Kline  wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 09:39:07AM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 02:20:51PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
> >
> > > 	Let's say we request people submit only their sh script
> > > 	(to start).   What would the format need to be so that
> > > 	a script could parse email and auto-HTML the script?'
> >
> >  #!/bin/sh --
> >  portinstall squirrelmail
> >
> > Did I win a biscuit? :)
> >
> > Ceri
>
>
> 	Would some  gold stars do? :)
>
> 	evolution take ASCII and iso.8859-15 text and turns it into
> 	HTML too (I think; don't *quote me*).  I have a C prog that
> 	I've been using privingly for 11 years that does this and
> 	more, but what what I'm thinkg of is a script that would
> 	take a posted script and using the KEYWORDS of, say:
>
> 	"CATEORY: foo
> 	"FUNCTION: it_does_this
> 	"OPTIONS: can_do_this_or_that"
>
> 	BEGINSCRIPT
> 	!#/bin/sh
> 	echo "hello world"
> 	ENDSCRIPT

What happens when the script itself contains a line that starts
with one of the special "markup" lines?


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On 2005-11-02 12:42, Gary Kline  wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 10:14:40PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> > >
> > > 	"CATEORY: foo
> > > 	"FUNCTION: it_does_this
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> > >
> > > 	BEGINSCRIPT
> > > 	!#/bin/sh
> > > 	echo "hello world"
> > > 	ENDSCRIPT
> >
> > What happens when the script itself contains a line that starts
> > with one of the special "markup" lines?
> >
>
> 	AFAIK, the only markup lines this would use would be
> 	the .  A sh script might use the ">" or "<"
> 	for redirection, but the conversion script would ignore
> 	everything between
>
> 	BEGINSCRIPT
> 	ENDSCRIPT
>
> 	which would make parsing straightforeward.

Unless the shell script itself contains 'ENDSCRIPT' somewhere ;-)

This is what I was referring to as "markup".


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>On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 10:47:43PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
>>On 2005-11-02 12:42, Gary Kline  wrote:
>>>On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 10:14:40PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
>>>>> BEGINSCRIPT
>>>>> !#/bin/sh
>>>>> echo "hello world"
>>>>> ENDSCRIPT
>>>>
>>>> What happens when the script itself contains a line that starts
>>>> with one of the special "markup" lines?
>>>
>>> AFAIK, the only markup lines this would use would be
>>> the .  A sh script might use the ">" or "<"
>>> for redirection, but the conversion script would ignore
>>> everything between
>>>
>>> BEGINSCRIPT
>>> ENDSCRIPT
>>>
>>> which would make parsing straightforeward.
>>
>> Unless the shell script itself contains 'ENDSCRIPT' somewhere ;-)
>>
>> This is what I was referring to as "markup".
>
> Hmmm!   :-)
>
> Okay, then what about
> BEGIN_somelonghexstringthatis256byteslong
>
> and
>
> END_somelonghexstringthatis256byteslong

That's an idea.  A simple shar(1) archive could probably work too:

    flame:/home/keramida$ shar .forward
    # This is a shell archive.  Save it in a file, remove anything before
    # this line, and then unpack it by entering "sh file".  Note, it may
    # create directories; files and directories will be owned by you and
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    # This archive contains:
    #
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    #
    echo x - .forward
    sed 's/^X//' >.forward << 'END-of-.forward'
    X|/usr/local/bin/procmail
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On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 11:34:36PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> On 2005-11-02 13:09, Gary Kline  wrote:
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> > Okay, then what about
> > BEGIN_somelonghexstringthatis256byteslong
> >
> > and
> >
> > END_somelonghexstringthatis256byteslong
> 
> That's an idea.  A simple shar(1) archive could probably work too:
> 
>     flame:/home/keramida$ shar .forward
>     # This is a shell archive.  Save it in a file, remove anything before
>     # this line, and then unpack it by entering "sh file".  Note, it may
>     # create directories; files and directories will be owned by you and
>     # have default permissions.
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>     # This archive contains:
>     #
>     #       .forward
>     #
>     echo x - .forward
>     sed 's/^X//' >.forward << 'END-of-.forward'
>     X|/usr/local/bin/procmail
>     END-of-.forward
>     exit

	Good one.  Scripts could be included as shar files--I
	think this is what you mean.  Then the only thing that 
	the people contributing the script would have to do
	would be to have the 
	^HEADER: strings in the right format.  It seems to me 
	that anybody who was serious about having his script(s)
	published would do that much of the work.  

	The rest of it could be done at the -www end; then, with 
	a minimun of time/effort, the categories would be underway.

> 

-- 
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On Nov 2, 2005, at 3:09 PM, Gary Kline wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 10:47:43PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
>> On 2005-11-02 12:42, Gary Kline  wrote:
>>> On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 10:14:40PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 	"CATEORY: foo
>>>>> 	"FUNCTION: it_does_this
>>>>> 	"OPTIONS: can_do_this_or_that"
>>>>>
>>>>> 	BEGINSCRIPT
>>>>> 	!#/bin/sh
>>>>> 	echo "hello world"
>>>>> 	ENDSCRIPT
>>>>
>>>> What happens when the script itself contains a line that starts
>>>> with one of the special "markup" lines?
>>>>
>>>
>>> 	AFAIK, the only markup lines this would use would be
>>> 	the .  A sh script might use the ">" or "<"
>>> 	for redirection, but the conversion script would ignore
>>> 	everything between
>>>
>>> 	BEGINSCRIPT
>>> 	ENDSCRIPT
>>>
>>> 	which would make parsing straightforeward.
>>
>> Unless the shell script itself contains 'ENDSCRIPT' somewhere ;-)
>>
>> This is what I was referring to as "markup".
>
> 	Hmmm!   :-)
>
> 	Okay, then what about
> 	BEGIN_somelonghexstringthatis256byteslong
>
> 	and
>
> 	END_somelonghexstringthatis256byteslong

Dammit!! I was just writing a script that used that exact variable!

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>Mozilla displays the same characteristics with the font sizes.  The
>text mode browsers I've tried display the fonts correctly (presumably
>because they ignore CSS).

Randy,

  I can't get Mozilla (1.7.3) or Firefox (1.0.3) on MacOS to display the
fixed-width fonts larger than expected.  I'll download Opera and see
if I have better luck replicating your problem.

  Bill

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>Number:         88432
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Nesbitt & Associates is based in Vancouver, Canada, but we have worked with clients all over the world.  We specialize in open source technologies, in particular, FreeBSD, Perl, Apache, mod_perl and MySQL. For more information, please visit our web site.
>Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 10:03:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20DC016A424; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 10:03:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jcamou@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D309843D45; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 10:03:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jcamou@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (jcamou@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jA3A3Epn087751; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 10:03:14 GMT (envelope-from jcamou@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from jcamou@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id jA3A3EuD087747; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 10:03:14 GMT (envelope-from jcamou) Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 10:03:14 GMT From: "Jesus R. Camou" Message-Id: <200511031003.jA3A3EuD087747@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jcamou@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-www@FreeBSD.org, jcamou@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: www/88432: Request for addition to the consultants list. X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 10:03:15 -0000 Synopsis: Request for addition to the consultants list. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-www->jcamou Responsible-Changed-By: jcamou Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Nov 3 10:02:19 GMT 2005 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take care of this. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=88432 From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 11:36:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B5D816A41F for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 11:36:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cejkar@fit.vutbr.cz) Received: from kazi.fit.vutbr.cz (kazi.fit.vutbr.cz [147.229.8.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A76F843D62 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 11:36:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cejkar@fit.vutbr.cz) Received: from kazi.fit.vutbr.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kazi.fit.vutbr.cz (envelope-from cejkar@fit.vutbr.cz) (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jA3Ba4J1045344 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 12:36:05 +0100 (CET) Received: (from cejkar@localhost) by kazi.fit.vutbr.cz (8.13.5/8.13.1/Submit) id jA3Ba44h045343 for freebsd-www@freebsd.org; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 12:36:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from cejkar@fit.vutbr.cz) X-Authentication-Warning: kazi.fit.vutbr.cz: cejkar set sender to cejkar@fit.vutbr.cz using -f Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 12:36:04 +0100 From: Rudolf Cejka To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051103113604.GA40054@fit.vutbr.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.49 on 147.229.8.12 Subject: Problems with new web design X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 11:36:15 -0000 Hello, I'm working on the new web design translation and I have found several things: - There are problems with links "Skip site navigation" and "Skip section navigation" in html files generated from sgml, because sgmlnorm converts referenced places from
/
to
/
, but referencing places and are leaved as they are. Explorer seems to be case insensitive, however Mozilla and Lynx are case sensitive and for them the links are broken. - What to do with author entity in includes.header.sgml and includes.header.xsl? It should be either removed (I could not find any current functional reference), or fixed, because now it produces different results "home | contact | legal | Legal Notices | Copyright" from sgml and "mail@FreeBSD.org \n Legal Notices | Copyright" from xsl/xml. - Date at the end of pages should be synchronized between sgml and xsl/xml: Last modified: 2005/10/06 19:27:36 for sgml, $FreeBSD: ... Exp $ fro xsl/xml. - Container width 765px seems to be too small, even as a minimal width. In my Mozilla, just en, it, and ja have sufficient space for horizontal site navigation for both normal and large text sizes. De, es, and fr have insufficient space for large text and I have problems with cs too. Ru seems to have even more problems with width for large text. - There is missing space in "Skip site navigation (1)Skip section navigation (2)" in html files generated from xsl/xml sources, so here is the patch: --- includes.header.xsl.orig Thu Nov 3 11:47:49 2005 +++ includes.header.xsl Thu Nov 3 11:48:54 2005 @@ -46,6 +46,7 @@ Skip site navigation (1) + Skip section navigation (2)
Regards. -- Rudolf Cejka http://www.fit.vutbr.cz/~cejkar Brno University of Technology, Faculty of Information Technology Bozetechova 2, 612 66 Brno, Czech Republic From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 12:10:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 513A516A428 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 12:10:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ceri@submonkey.net) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc2-cdif2-3-1-cust208.cdif.cable.ntl.com [82.31.78.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC2A43D48 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 12:10:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ceri@submonkey.net) Received: from ceri by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1EXdv4-000IDS-Sn; Thu, 03 Nov 2005 12:10:14 +0000 Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 12:10:14 +0000 From: Ceri Davies To: Rudolf Cejka Message-ID: <20051103121014.GD29387@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Rudolf Cejka , freebsd-www@freebsd.org References: <20051103113604.GA40054@fit.vutbr.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MXxcbiX/Q4+iy5U7" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051103113604.GA40054@fit.vutbr.cz> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Sender: Ceri Davies Cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with new web design X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 12:10:23 -0000 --MXxcbiX/Q4+iy5U7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 12:36:04PM +0100, Rudolf Cejka wrote: >=20 > Hello, I'm working on the new web design translation and I have found > several things: >=20 > - There are problems with links "Skip site navigation" and "Skip section > navigation" in html files generated from sgml, because sgmlnorm converts > referenced places from
/
> to
/
, but referencing pla= ces > and are leaved as they = are. > Explorer seems to be case insensitive, however Mozilla and Lynx are case > sensitive and for them the links are broken. Yeah, that's sucked for ever. I have no idea why sgmlnorm does that, but you can't stop it. > - What to do with author entity in includes.header.sgml and > includes.header.xsl? It should be either removed (I could not find any > current functional reference), or fixed, because now it produces > different results "home | contact | legal | Legal Notices | Copyright" > from sgml and "mail@FreeBSD.org \n Legal Notices | Copyright" from xsl/= xml. If it's used, it should match. Otherwise I'm not worried. > - Date at the end of pages should be synchronized between sgml and xsl/xm= l: > Last modified: 2005/10/06 19:27:36 for sgml, > $FreeBSD: ... Exp $ fro xsl/xml. Actually that should be fixed to use the document date rather than the one from the include file. Doesn't matter a hoot to me what format it is in. > - Container width 765px seems to be too small, even as a minimal width. > In my Mozilla, just en, it, and ja have sufficient space for horizontal > site navigation for both normal and large text sizes. De, es, and fr > have insufficient space for large text and I have problems with cs too. > Ru seems to have even more problems with width for large text. I don't even have an opinion. > - There is missing space in > "Skip site navigation (1)Skip section navigation (2)" in html files > generated from xsl/xml sources, so here is the patch: >=20 > --- includes.header.xsl.orig Thu Nov 3 11:47:49 2005 > +++ includes.header.xsl Thu Nov 3 11:48:54 2005 > @@ -46,6 +46,7 @@ > =20 > > Skip site navigation (1) > + > Skip section navigation (2= ) >
Yep, commit away. Ceri --=20 Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Einstein (attrib.) --MXxcbiX/Q4+iy5U7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDaf4mocfcwTS3JF8RAq6/AKCQh12Mlbw/kj9LTYVyrRtsy/rQKQCgryEZ /vrNkjjYvdpD9JnxrWbphIk= =rhiV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MXxcbiX/Q4+iy5U7-- From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 20:10:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ED1E16A41F; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 20:10:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66AEB43D66; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 20:09:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jA2K8VKB067405; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 12:08:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id jA2K82ET067398; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 12:08:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 12:07:57 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Ceri Davies , Gary Kline , Eric F Crist , Giorgos Keramidas , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-www@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051102200757.GA67144@thought.org> References: <20051031212138.4456283C0D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <200510312218.13261.freebsd01@dgmm.net> <20051101011146.GA14135@thought.org> <20051101013050.GA10120@flame.pc> <20051101055104.GA15533@thought.org> <20051101121414.GB1051@flame.pc> <20051101185922.GB67660@thought.org> <2011CB42-5C96-4315-AD73-A17B39589CBF@secure-computing.net> <20051101222051.GA24702@thought.org> <20051102093907.GT29387@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051102093907.GT29387@submonkey.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 19 years of service to the Unix community X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 14:10:23 +0000 Cc: Subject: Re: The best scripts ever (trick or treat) X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 20:10:01 -0000 On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 09:39:07AM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote: > On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 02:20:51PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > > Let's say we request people submit only their sh script > > (to start). What would the format need to be so that > > a script could parse email and auto-HTML the script?' > > #!/bin/sh -- > portinstall squirrelmail > > Did I win a biscuit? :) > > Ceri Would some gold stars do? :) evolution take ASCII and iso.8859-15 text and turns it into HTML too (I think; don't *quote me*). I have a C prog that I've been using privingly for 11 years that does this and more, but what what I'm thinkg of is a script that would take a posted script and using the KEYWORDS of, say: "CATEORY: foo "FUNCTION: it_does_this "OPTIONS: can_do_this_or_that" BEGINSCRIPT !#/bin/sh echo "hello world" ENDSCRIPT and generate am HTML file like:
Function
This script does: "it does this"

Options
This script "can do this or that" using flags "-a" "-b" "-c"


	!#/bin/sh
	echo "hello world"

	

In most things I agree with the KISS philosophy: "Keep it simple, Sir". This is my off-the-top-of-my-head idea; I'm sure most of you guys are better at shell and-or HTML hacking and have better ideas. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 20:42:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13D6016A41F; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 20:42:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7478143D45; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 20:42:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jA2KgbcL067620; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 12:42:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id jA2KgaPk067619; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 12:42:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 12:42:35 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20051102204235.GC67144@thought.org> References: <20051101011146.GA14135@thought.org> <20051101013050.GA10120@flame.pc> <20051101055104.GA15533@thought.org> <20051101121414.GB1051@flame.pc> <20051101185922.GB67660@thought.org> <2011CB42-5C96-4315-AD73-A17B39589CBF@secure-computing.net> <20051101222051.GA24702@thought.org> <20051102093907.GT29387@submonkey.net> <20051102200757.GA67144@thought.org> <20051102201439.GA37256@flame.pc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051102201439.GA37256@flame.pc> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 19 years of service to the Unix community X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 14:10:23 +0000 Cc: Eric F Crist , Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The best scripts ever (trick or treat) X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 20:42:45 -0000 On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 10:14:40PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > > > "CATEORY: foo > > "FUNCTION: it_does_this > > "OPTIONS: can_do_this_or_that" > > > > BEGINSCRIPT > > !#/bin/sh > > echo "hello world" > > ENDSCRIPT > > What happens when the script itself contains a line that starts > with one of the special "markup" lines? > AFAIK, the only markup lines this would use would be the . A sh script might use the ">" or "<" for redirection, but the conversion script would ignore everything between BEGINSCRIPT ENDSCRIPT which would make parsing straightforeward. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 21:09:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 149AB16A41F; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 21:09:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C00543D45; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 21:09:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jA2L9H8r067786; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 13:09:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id jA2L9G6V067785; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 13:09:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 13:09:16 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20051102210916.GA67760@thought.org> References: <20051101055104.GA15533@thought.org> <20051101121414.GB1051@flame.pc> <20051101185922.GB67660@thought.org> <2011CB42-5C96-4315-AD73-A17B39589CBF@secure-computing.net> <20051101222051.GA24702@thought.org> <20051102093907.GT29387@submonkey.net> <20051102200757.GA67144@thought.org> <20051102201439.GA37256@flame.pc> <20051102204235.GC67144@thought.org> <20051102204743.GA89885@flame.pc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051102204743.GA89885@flame.pc> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 19 years of service to the Unix community X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 14:10:23 +0000 Cc: Eric F Crist , Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The best scripts ever (trick or treat) X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 21:09:26 -0000 On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 10:47:43PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2005-11-02 12:42, Gary Kline wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 10:14:40PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > > > > > > > "CATEORY: foo > > > > "FUNCTION: it_does_this > > > > "OPTIONS: can_do_this_or_that" > > > > > > > > BEGINSCRIPT > > > > !#/bin/sh > > > > echo "hello world" > > > > ENDSCRIPT > > > > > > What happens when the script itself contains a line that starts > > > with one of the special "markup" lines? > > > > > > > AFAIK, the only markup lines this would use would be > > the . A sh script might use the ">" or "<" > > for redirection, but the conversion script would ignore > > everything between > > > > BEGINSCRIPT > > ENDSCRIPT > > > > which would make parsing straightforeward. > > Unless the shell script itself contains 'ENDSCRIPT' somewhere ;-) > > This is what I was referring to as "markup". Hmmm! :-) Okay, then what about BEGIN_somelonghexstringthatis256byteslong and END_somelonghexstringthatis256byteslong > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 14:16:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D2816A41F; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 14:16:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from remko@elvandar.org) Received: from caelis.elvandar.org (caelis.elvandar.org [217.148.169.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D2FC43D5E; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 14:16:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from remko@elvandar.org) Received: from localhost (caelis.elvandar.org [217.148.169.59]) by caelis.elvandar.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA1F930E05; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 15:16:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from caelis.elvandar.org ([217.148.169.59]) by localhost (caelis.elvandar.org [217.148.169.59]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 66157-02; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 15:16:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail.evilcoder.org (dartagnan.elvandar.intranet [10.0.3.122]) by caelis.elvandar.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D81B930D20; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 15:16:31 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <64186.145.221.92.42.1131027390.squirrel@webmail.evilcoder.org> In-Reply-To: <20051103121014.GD29387@submonkey.net> References: <20051103113604.GA40054@fit.vutbr.cz> <20051103121014.GD29387@submonkey.net> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 15:16:30 +0100 (CET) From: "Remko Lodder" To: "Ceri Davies" , "Rudolf Cejka" , freebsd-www@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by the elvandar.org maildomain Cc: hrs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Problems with new web design X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 14:16:36 -0000 Let me comment on a little item somewhat below (the sgmlnorm part): On Thu, November 3, 2005 13:10, Ceri Davies wrote: > On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 12:36:04PM +0100, Rudolf Cejka wrote: >> >> Hello, I'm working on the new web design translation and I have found >> several things: >> >> - There are problems with links "Skip site navigation" and "Skip >> section >> navigation" in html files generated from sgml, because sgmlnorm >> converts >> referenced places from

/
>> to
/
, but referencing >> places >> and are leaved as they >> are. >> Explorer seems to be case insensitive, however Mozilla and Lynx are >> case >> sensitive and for them the links are broken. > > Yeah, that's sucked for ever. I have no idea why sgmlnorm does that, > but you can't stop it. Not by sgmlnorm indeed, but a newer version of tidy is capable of doing so. Hiroki Sato was looking into this and it's one of my open PR's.... (hrs CC'ed) What was said at the time that we only needed to merge the --preserve option and test away after that. So we can solve this, not by sgmlnorm but via tidy. The only difficult item is that there is no normal version of tidy anymore. The current tidy is not maintained anymore and there is a devel version available which updates every x period of time. @hrs: idea's? -- Kind regards, Remko Lodder ** remko@elvandar.org FreeBSD ** remko@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 23:50:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8678216A423 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 23:50:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2562843D5A for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 23:50:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jA3NoH3u020613 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 23:50:17 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id jA3NoH4Z020612; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 23:50:17 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 23:50:17 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200511032350.jA3NoH4Z020612@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-www@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Roman Neuhauser Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448A816A41F for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 23:44:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neuhauser@sigpipe.cz) Received: from isis.sigpipe.cz (fw.sigpipe.cz [62.245.70.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E062243D45 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 23:44:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neuhauser@sigpipe.cz) Received: by isis.sigpipe.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C37EE1F87BED; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 00:44:11 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20051103234411.GA11432@isis.sigpipe.cz> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 00:44:11 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Cc: Subject: www/88473: query-pr.cgi: link to query-pr-summary.cgi X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Roman Neuhauser List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 23:50:21 -0000 >Number: 88473 >Category: www >Synopsis: query-pr.cgi: link to query-pr-summary.cgi >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-www >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Nov 03 23:50:17 GMT 2005 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Roman Neuhauser >Release: FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: It would be nice if query-pr.cgi produced a link (optimally both at the top and the bottom of the page) to query-pr-summary.cgi?query >How-To-Repeat: Use this link to display a PR, then count mouse clicks and measure the time it takes to get to the query form. >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 10:26:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E66B16A420; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 10:26:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ceri@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF62A43D45; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 10:26:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ceri@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (ceri@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jA4AQDPm013961; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 10:26:13 GMT (envelope-from ceri@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from ceri@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id jA4AQDM0013957; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 10:26:13 GMT (envelope-from ceri) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 10:26:13 GMT From: Ceri Davies Message-Id: <200511041026.jA4AQDM0013957@freefall.freebsd.org> To: neuhauser@sigpipe.cz, ceri@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-www@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: www/88473: query-pr.cgi: link to query-pr-summary.cgi X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 10:26:14 -0000 Synopsis: query-pr.cgi: link to query-pr-summary.cgi State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ceri State-Changed-When: Fri Nov 4 10:15:07 GMT 2005 State-Changed-Why: Committed in r1.46 of www/en/cgi/query-pr.cgi, thanks. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=88473 From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 10:36:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 299D316A41F; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 10:36:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6958E43D45; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 10:36:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jA4AaKtG027242; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 11:36:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost.blackend.org [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jA4AaK6A001005; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 11:36:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id jA4AaJhm001004; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 11:36:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 11:36:19 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Bill Fenner Message-ID: <20051104103619.GB602@gothic.blackend.org> References: <200511030125.jA31PLrJ023110@bright.research.att.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200511030125.jA31PLrJ023110@bright.research.att.com> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org, Randy Pratt Subject: Re: Huge fixed-width fonts on web mailing list archive X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 10:36:26 -0000 On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 05:25:21PM -0800, Bill Fenner wrote: > > >Mozilla displays the same characteristics with the font sizes. The > >text mode browsers I've tried display the fonts correctly (presumably > >because they ignore CSS). > > Randy, > > I can't get Mozilla (1.7.3) or Firefox (1.0.3) on MacOS to display the > fixed-width fonts larger than expected. I'll download Opera and see > if I have better luck replicating your problem. > With Firefox 1.0.7 (same result with any Mozilla version) under FreeBSD 5.X: http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/list.png It's a recurrent issue with the new layout: http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/announce.png Maybe Emily could look at this problem. Marc From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 11:49:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB8116A41F for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 11:49:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (smtprelay01.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898A643D46 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 11:49:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: (qmail 11310 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2005 11:49:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) ([pbs]775067@[217.187.177.56]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 4 Nov 2005 11:49:46 -0000 Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 12:49:21 +0100 From: Fabian Keil To: Marc Fonvieille Message-ID: <20051104124921.01f8d98d@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20051104103619.GB602@gothic.blackend.org> References: <200511030125.jA31PLrJ023110@bright.research.att.com> <20051104103619.GB602@gothic.blackend.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.15 (GTK+ 2.6.4; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) X-PGP-KEY-URL: http://www.fabiankeil.de/gpg-keys/freebsd-listen-2006-08-19.asc X-Face: `PhZA=Lxak@TtN(1g, #<&MCpy@&]f<.#LD|V?.7uN7(:.RP/8s&S, oWJtD[Xd4(_YsBm?fGC OLJGk9OysbMQE%?&$, M[odvx9[[`'F\@JjAC@w4X6/-Gr^apr)f''exvwLOUalUW?~>frSC-Y]0v9, U4"Hz]~H&ZP%S1YJV@MfDIDu2>cw~wMiCW#9PY: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Signature_Fri__4_Nov_2005_12_49_21_+0100_AbaGbsv0TRknfYVe; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Cc: Bill Fenner , freebsd-www@freebsd.org, Randy, Pratt Subject: Re: Huge fixed-width fonts on web mailing list archive X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 11:49:49 -0000 --Signature_Fri__4_Nov_2005_12_49_21_+0100_AbaGbsv0TRknfYVe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Marc Fonvieille wrote: > On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 05:25:21PM -0800, Bill Fenner wrote: > >=20 > > >Mozilla displays the same characteristics with the font sizes. The > > >text mode browsers I've tried display the fonts correctly > > >(presumably because they ignore CSS). > > I can't get Mozilla (1.7.3) or Firefox (1.0.3) on MacOS to > > display the fixed-width fonts larger than expected. I'll download > > Opera and see if I have better luck replicating your problem. > > >=20 > With Firefox 1.0.7 (same result with any Mozilla version) under > FreeBSD 5.X: > http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/list.png >=20 > It's a recurrent issue with the new layout: > http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/announce.png >=20 > Maybe Emily could look at this problem. The problem seems to be caused by global.css: pre { font-family: monospace; font-size: 1.4em; } Deleting the font-size line should be enough. I think there is no reason to increase pre's font size above the default. Fabian --=20 http://www.fabiankeil.de/ --Signature_Fri__4_Nov_2005_12_49_21_+0100_AbaGbsv0TRknfYVe Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDa0rCjV8GA4rMKUQRAixIAJ0RvT6f+hyDW1iMl185MjZlWsuT6wCdGZb9 NNbcsTh+Jan/Dq9VU2IzyiI= =s3VX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature_Fri__4_Nov_2005_12_49_21_+0100_AbaGbsv0TRknfYVe-- From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 13:53:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 164D216A420; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 13:53:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D16643D45; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 13:53:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from flame.pc (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with SMTP id jA4Dr1Ou023985; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 15:53:02 +0200 Received: from flame.pc (flame [127.0.0.1]) by flame.pc (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jA4Dqrs9002457; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 15:52:53 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by flame.pc (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id jA4DqrbL002456; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 15:52:53 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 15:52:53 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Fabian Keil Message-ID: <20051104135252.GB2362@flame.pc> References: <200511030125.jA31PLrJ023110@bright.research.att.com> <20051104103619.GB602@gothic.blackend.org> <20051104124921.01f8d98d@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051104124921.01f8d98d@localhost> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 14:11:41 +0000 Cc: Bill Fenner , freebsd-www@freebsd.org, Randy@freebsd.org, Pratt Subject: Re: Huge fixed-width fonts on web mailing list archive X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 13:53:13 -0000 On 2005-11-04 12:49, Fabian Keil wrote: > Marc Fonvieille wrote: > > It's a recurrent issue with the new layout: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/announce.png > > > > Maybe Emily could look at this problem. > > The problem seems to be caused by global.css: > > pre { > font-family: monospace; > font-size: 1.4em; > } > > Deleting the font-size line should be enough. > > I think there is no reason to increase pre's font size above the > default. You're absolutely right. Thanks for tracking this down :) From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 14:36:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C349316A41F for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 14:36:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 579E243D53 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 14:36:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jA4EaDs7030990; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 15:36:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost.blackend.org [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jA4EaDuU001722; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 15:36:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id jA4EaDfU001721; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 15:36:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 15:36:13 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051104143613.GH602@gothic.blackend.org> References: <200511030125.jA31PLrJ023110@bright.research.att.com> <20051104103619.GB602@gothic.blackend.org> <20051104124921.01f8d98d@localhost> <20051104135252.GB2362@flame.pc> <20051104142919.GF602@gothic.blackend.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051104142919.GF602@gothic.blackend.org> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , Bill Fenner , bsd-unix@comcast.net Subject: Re: Huge fixed-width fonts on web mailing list archive X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 14:36:27 -0000 On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 03:29:19PM +0100, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 03:52:53PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > > > > > The problem seems to be caused by global.css: > > > > > > pre { > > > font-family: monospace; > > > font-size: 1.4em; > > > } > > > > > > Deleting the font-size line should be enough. > > > > > > I think there is no reason to increase pre's font size above the > > > default. > > > > You're absolutely right. Thanks for tracking this down :) > > > > Ok, I just commented out this line. > Thanks! > Hmmm I think should deserve the same treatment :) Marc From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 14:49:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1BE716A41F; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 14:49:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB4943D55; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 14:49:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from flame.pc (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with SMTP id jA4EnX61006325; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 16:49:34 +0200 Received: from flame.pc (flame [127.0.0.1]) by flame.pc (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jA4EnPNh002941; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 16:49:25 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by flame.pc (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id jA4EnLmv002940; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 16:49:21 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 16:49:21 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Marc Fonvieille Message-ID: <20051104144921.GA2928@flame.pc> References: <200511030125.jA31PLrJ023110@bright.research.att.com> <20051104103619.GB602@gothic.blackend.org> <20051104124921.01f8d98d@localhost> <20051104135252.GB2362@flame.pc> <20051104142919.GF602@gothic.blackend.org> <20051104143613.GH602@gothic.blackend.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051104143613.GH602@gothic.blackend.org> Cc: Bill Fenner , freebsd-www@freebsd.org, bsd-unix@comcast.net Subject: Re: Huge fixed-width fonts on web mailing list archive X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 14:49:41 -0000 On 2005-11-04 15:36, Marc Fonvieille wrote: >On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 03:29:19PM +0100, Marc Fonvieille wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 03:52:53PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> > > >> > > The problem seems to be caused by global.css: >> > > >> > > pre { >> > > font-family: monospace; >> > > font-size: 1.4em; >> > > } >> > > >> > > Deleting the font-size line should be enough. >> > > >> > > I think there is no reason to increase pre's font size above the >> > > default. >> > >> > You're absolutely right. Thanks for tracking this down :) >> > >> >> Ok, I just commented out this line. >> Thanks! > > Hmmm I think should deserve the same treatment :) Yes. There's no reason why typewriter or preformatted text would have a gratuitous size increase. I'm not sure why it was there in the first place, but it's ok to remove it From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 14:55:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5F216A41F for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 14:55:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAFDD43D46 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 14:55:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jA4EstKL031306; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 15:54:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost.blackend.org [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jA4EstNL001752; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 15:54:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id jA4Est3Z001751; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 15:54:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 15:54:55 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20051104145455.GI602@gothic.blackend.org> References: <200511030125.jA31PLrJ023110@bright.research.att.com> <20051104103619.GB602@gothic.blackend.org> <20051104124921.01f8d98d@localhost> <20051104135252.GB2362@flame.pc> <20051104142919.GF602@gothic.blackend.org> <20051104143613.GH602@gothic.blackend.org> <20051104144921.GA2928@flame.pc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051104144921.GA2928@flame.pc> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: Bill Fenner , freebsd-www@freebsd.org, bsd-unix@comcast.net Subject: Re: Huge fixed-width fonts on web mailing list archive X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 14:55:07 -0000 On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 04:49:21PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > > > Hmmm I think should deserve the same treatment :) > > Yes. There's no reason why typewriter or preformatted text would > have a gratuitous size increase. I'm not sure why it was there > in the first place, but it's ok to remove it > Maybe it was there to "emphasis" some commands and such. As example look at http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/ppc.html#issues Marc From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 15:09:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A20B816A41F; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 15:09:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd-unix@comcast.net) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 661EC43D49; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 15:09:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd-unix@comcast.net) Received: from kt.weeble.com (pcp858615pcs.ptchar01.fl.comcast.net[68.56.224.228]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20051104150914014006d16ae>; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 15:09:15 +0000 Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 10:09:13 -0500 From: Randy Pratt To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-Id: <20051104100913.2b2fa5ca.bsd-unix@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <20051104135252.GB2362@flame.pc> References: <200511030125.jA31PLrJ023110@bright.research.att.com> <20051104103619.GB602@gothic.blackend.org> <20051104124921.01f8d98d@localhost> <20051104135252.GB2362@flame.pc> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.5 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.11) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: fenner@research.att.com, freebsd-www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Huge fixed-width fonts on web mailing list archive X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 15:09:16 -0000 On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 15:52:53 +0200 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2005-11-04 12:49, Fabian Keil wrote: > > Marc Fonvieille wrote: > > > It's a recurrent issue with the new layout: > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/announce.png > > > > > > Maybe Emily could look at this problem. > > > > The problem seems to be caused by global.css: > > > > pre { > > font-family: monospace; > > font-size: 1.4em; > > } > > > > Deleting the font-size line should be enough. > > > > I think there is no reason to increase pre's font size above the > > default. > > You're absolutely right. Thanks for tracking this down :) > Yep. That seems to be the problem I'm seeing. I really appreciate this getting resolved. I also did find a semi-workable font configuration in Opera but I preferred my original. Thanks for looking at this! Randy -- From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 15:18:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9777716A41F; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 15:18:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7EC943D62; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 15:18:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from flame.pc (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with SMTP id jA4FILtS026473; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 17:18:22 +0200 Received: from flame.pc (flame [127.0.0.1]) by flame.pc (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jA4FI8al058714; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 17:18:08 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by flame.pc (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id jA4FI8tT058681; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 17:18:08 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 17:18:08 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Marc Fonvieille Message-ID: <20051104151808.GB9623@flame.pc> References: <200511030125.jA31PLrJ023110@bright.research.att.com> <20051104103619.GB602@gothic.blackend.org> <20051104124921.01f8d98d@localhost> <20051104135252.GB2362@flame.pc> <20051104142919.GF602@gothic.blackend.org> <20051104143613.GH602@gothic.blackend.org> <20051104144921.GA2928@flame.pc> <20051104145455.GI602@gothic.blackend.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20051104145455.GI602@gothic.blackend.org> Cc: Bill Fenner , freebsd-www@freebsd.org, bsd-unix@comcast.net Subject: Re: Huge fixed-width fonts on web mailing list archive X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 15:18:38 -0000 On 2005-11-04 15:54, Marc Fonvieille wrote: >On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 04:49:21PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>> Hmmm I think should deserve the same treatment :) >> >> Yes. There's no reason why typewriter or preformatted text would >> have a gratuitous size increase. I'm not sure why it was there >> in the first place, but it's ok to remove it > > Maybe it was there to "emphasis" some commands and such. > As example look at http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/ppc.html#issues We can use or even colors when emphasis is needed (I'd prefer , because it also works for people with color-seeing disabilities). It's not necessary to play around with the font size. I'm _extremely_ picky about font size issues. Neither bigger than my preferred size in the browser settings, nor smaller, is a good thing in my opinion. One of the most annoying things on many sites, even sites of important organizations like Princeton University Press[1], is a forced font size of 90% or smaller. When I bump on pages that use such tricks to enforce *THEIR* preference over mine, I tend to hit «back» very fast, cursing the web designer. Similarly when an absurdly big font size is pushed down my throat, despite my carefully chosen browser preferences, that are meant to be comfortable to *ME* and not the Random Joe Designer. That's not something I'd like people to do when they hit our site. So, many thanks for fixing this :) Links: [1] http://www.pupress.princeton.edu/ From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 15:29:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: www@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2D4A16A41F; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 15:29:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.allbsd.org (vlsi00.si.noda.tus.ac.jp [133.31.130.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4402D43D53; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 15:29:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from delta.allbsd.org (p7126-adsau12honb8-acca.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp [220.99.41.126]) (authenticated bits=128) by mail.allbsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jA4FTsZi007403; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 00:29:56 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (alph.allbsd.org [192.168.0.10]) by delta.allbsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jA4FTiWU050601; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 00:29:45 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 00:29:37 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20051105.002937.23010408.hrs@allbsd.org> To: www@FreeBSD.org From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <200511041527.jA4FRBYV049868@www.freebsd.org> References: <200511041527.jA4FRBYV049868@www.freebsd.org> X-PGPkey-fingerprint: BDB3 443F A5DD B3D0 A530 FFD7 4F2C D3D8 2793 CF2D X-Mailer: Mew version 4.2.52 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Signed; 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charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rememberthemilk.com Subject: Re: Huge fixed-width fonts on web mailing list archive X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 15:39:38 -0000 Hi, >>Maybe Emily could look at this problem. > > The problem seems to be caused by global.css: > > pre { > font-family: monospace; > font-size: 1.4em; > } > > Deleting the font-size line should be enough. > > I think there is no reason to increase pre's > font size above the default. There is actually a reason for that line. Without that compensation, pre text ends up tiny on the majority of browsers/platforms (try it and see :) It sounds as though the Firefox default configuration under FreeBSD is changing the size of pre. I'll have to see if there's a workaround; simply removing the line will fix Firefox on FreeBSD, but then there'll be a worse issue with the text being unreadable on most browsers/platforms. I'll look into this further. Emily From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 15:51:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C527516A41F for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 15:51:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D009F43D46 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 15:51:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jA4Fp9Ya032327; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 16:51:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost.blackend.org [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jA4Fp9wV001884; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 16:51:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id jA4Fp9NY001883; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 16:51:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 16:51:09 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20051104155109.GJ602@gothic.blackend.org> References: <200511030125.jA31PLrJ023110@bright.research.att.com> <20051104103619.GB602@gothic.blackend.org> <20051104124921.01f8d98d@localhost> <20051104135252.GB2362@flame.pc> <20051104142919.GF602@gothic.blackend.org> <20051104143613.GH602@gothic.blackend.org> <20051104144921.GA2928@flame.pc> <20051104145455.GI602@gothic.blackend.org> <20051104151808.GB9623@flame.pc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051104151808.GB9623@flame.pc> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: Bill Fenner , freebsd-www@freebsd.org, bsd-unix@comcast.net Subject: Re: Huge fixed-width fonts on web mailing list archive X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 15:51:25 -0000 On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 05:18:08PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2005-11-04 15:54, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > >On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 04:49:21PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > >>> Hmmm I think should deserve the same treatment :) > >> > >> Yes. There's no reason why typewriter or preformatted text would > >> have a gratuitous size increase. I'm not sure why it was there > >> in the first place, but it's ok to remove it > > > > Maybe it was there to "emphasis" some commands and such. > > As example look at http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/ppc.html#issues > Sorry the mentioned page uses
, a right example would be
http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html where we have things like
# pkg_add -r gnome2 etc.

> We can use  or even colors when emphasis is needed (I'd prefer
> , because it also works for people with color-seeing
> disabilities).  It's not necessary to play around with the font size.
> 
> I'm _extremely_ picky about font size issues.  Neither bigger than my
> preferred size in the browser settings, nor smaller, is a good thing
> in my opinion.
> 
[...]

I'm picky too.
I just did some test on http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html
with

tt {
}

instead of

tt {
	font-family: monospace;
	font-size: 1.4em;
}

This seems far better and closer to what we have in docs/
Tell me what you think about it (you may want to use the Web developer
extention with Moz or Firefox).

Marc

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Emily Boyd  wrote:

> >>Maybe Emily could look at this problem.
> >=20
> > The problem seems to be caused by global.css:
> >=20
> > pre {
> >   font-family: monospace;
> >   font-size: 1.4em;
> > }
> >=20
> > Deleting the font-size line should be enough.
> >=20
> > I think there is no reason to increase pre's
> > font size above the default.
>=20
> There is actually a reason for that line.
>=20
> Without that compensation, pre text ends up tiny on the majority of
> browsers/platforms (try it and see :)

That's because the default font-size already is much to small
in the first place.

If the style sheets wouldn't set the font size below 100% there
would be no problem.
=20
> It sounds as though the Firefox default configuration under FreeBSD is
> changing the size of pre. I'll have to see if there's a workaround;

Firefox allows the user to limit, how small the font size can be set.
My minimum font size is 14px, therefore annoyances like "font-size:
69%;" can't render the page unreadable.

> simply removing the line will fix Firefox on FreeBSD, but then
> there'll be a worse issue with the text being unreadable on most
> browsers/platforms. I'll look into this further.

As far as I can see, nearly unreadable font sizes already
are the default.

IE displays the font much too small, but if I try, I can
still read the content. I don't see a big difference
between the usual font size and the 
 font size.

On Beonex the 
 font size now is even smaller
than before, but who is still using Beonex anyway.

A clean work around would be to stop setting
the font size below 100%. Everything else means
working on the symptoms.

Fabian
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On 2005-11-04 16:51, Marc Fonvieille  wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 05:18:08PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> > I'm _extremely_ picky about font size issues.  Neither bigger than my
> > preferred size in the browser settings, nor smaller, is a good thing
> > in my opinion.
>
> I'm picky too.
> I just did some test on http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html
> with
>
> tt {
> }
>
> instead of
>
> tt {
> 	font-family: monospace;
> 	font-size: 1.4em;
> }
>
> This seems far better and closer to what we have in docs/
> Tell me what you think about it (you may want to use the Web developer
> extention with Moz or Firefox).

Very good!

Go for  too now, if you feel like it :)


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On Sat, Nov 05, 2005 at 02:39:32AM +1100, Emily Boyd wrote:
> >
> >Deleting the font-size line should be enough.
> >
> >I think there is no reason to increase pre's
> >font size above the default.
> 
> There is actually a reason for that line.
> 
> Without that compensation, pre text ends up tiny on the majority of
> browsers/platforms (try it and see :)
> 
> It sounds as though the Firefox default configuration under FreeBSD is
> changing the size of pre. I'll have to see if there's a workaround;
> simply removing the line will fix Firefox on FreeBSD, but then there'll
> be a worse issue with the text being unreadable on most
> browsers/platforms. I'll look into this further.
>

I'm not really into CSS, but this sounds weird to me.  I mean if Mozilla
and Firefox have issues on this point, it's not new cause everything
under http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/ use the same CSS
layout (docbook.css) which does not define any font size, and people
hardly complained about it.
Well, under FreeBSD I always set a minimum size and the size for
proportional and monospace fonts.  I have Zeldman's book[1], I should
read it regarding this font issue.

For the moment I just commented out the font-size on global.css, this
should please many persons.

Marc

[1] Designing with Web Standards, ISBN: 0735712018

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>Number:         88498
>Category:       www
>Synopsis:       na
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-www
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
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>Originator:     Dave Walker
>Release:        4.10
>Organization:
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>Environment:
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>Description:

>How-To-Repeat:
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>Number:         88499
>Category:       www
>Synopsis:       Gigabyte GA-K8VT800 Pro motherboard works with FreeBSD/amd64 6.0-RELEASE
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-www
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          update
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Fri Nov 04 20:00:37 GMT 2005
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>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Andrew Pantyukhin
>Release:        FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE i386
>Organization:
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD proxy.gubkin.ru 6.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #2: Thu Nov 3 19:20:06 MSK 2005 sat@proxy.gubkin.ru:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SPG6 i386


	
>Description:
	Update for pages http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64/motherboards.html

	Link to the MB desc:
	http://tw.giga-byte.com/MotherBoard/Products/Products_GA-K8VT800%20Pro.htm

	VIA K8T800, Socket 754
	
>How-To-Repeat:
	
>Fix:

	
	Works great.

--- satsmb.60R.amd64.dmesg begins here ---
Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
	The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #0: Wed Nov  2 19:07:38 UTC 2005
    root@rat.samsco.home:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
ACPI APIC Table: 
Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 2500+ (1407.05-MHz K8-class CPU)
  Origin = "AuthenticAMD"  Id = 0x20fc2  Stepping = 2
  Features=0x78bfbff
  Features2=0x1
  AMD Features=0xe2500800,LM,3DNow+,3DNow>
real memory  = 536805376 (511 MB)
avail memory = 506675200 (483 MB)
ioapic0  irqs 0-23 on motherboard
acpi0:  on motherboard
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
pci_link0:  irq 7 on acpi0
pci_linK1:  irq 5 on acpi0
pci_link2:  irq 10 on acpi0
pci_link3:  irq 11 on acpi0
pci_link4:  on acpi0
pci_link5:  on acpi0
pci_link6:  on acpi0
pci_link7:  on acpi0
pci_link8:  irq 0 on acpi0
pci_link9:  irq 0 on acpi0
pci_link10:  irq 0 on acpi0
pci_link11:  irq 0 on acpi0
Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x4008-0x400b on acpi0
cpu0:  on acpi0
acpi_button0:  on acpi0
pcib0:  port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci_link9: BIOS IRQ 7 for -2145774616.16.INTA is invalid
pci_link9: BIOS IRQ 5 for -2145774616.16.INTB is invalid
pci_link9: BIOS IRQ 10 for -2145774616.16.INTC is invalid
pci_link10: BIOS IRQ 10 for -2145774616.17.INTC is invalid
pci0:  on pcib0
agp0:  mem 0xe0000000-0xe1ffffff at device 0.0 on pci0
pcib1:  at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1:  on pcib1
pci0:  at device 11.0 (no driver attached)
atapci0:  port 0xc010-0xc017,0xc400-0xc403,0xc810-0xc817,0xcc00-0xcc03,0xd000-0xd00f irq 19 at device 14.0 on pci0
ata2:  on atapci0
ata3:  on atapci0
atapci1:  port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xd400-0xd40f at device 15.0 on pci0
ata0:  on atapci1
ata1:  on atapci1
uhci0:  port 0xd800-0xd81f irq 21 at device 16.0 on pci0
uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb0:  on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1:  port 0xdc00-0xdc1f irq 21 at device 16.1 on pci0
uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb1:  on uhci1
usb1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci2:  port 0xe000-0xe01f irq 21 at device 16.2 on pci0
uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb2:  on uhci2
usb2: USB revision 1.0
uhub2: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci3:  port 0xe400-0xe41f irq 21 at device 16.3 on pci0
uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb3:  on uhci3
usb3: USB revision 1.0
uhub3: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
ehci0:  mem 0xe3400000-0xe34000ff irq 21 at device 16.4 on pci0
ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb4: EHCI version 1.0
usb4: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3
usb4:  on ehci0
usb4: USB revision 2.0
uhub4: VIA EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered
isab0:  at device 17.0 on pci0
isa0:  on isab0
pci0:  at device 17.5 (no driver attached)
re0:  port 0xec00-0xecff mem 0xe3401000-0xe34010ff irq 18 at device 19.0 on pci0
miibus0:  on re0
rgephy0:  on miibus0
rgephy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX, 1000baseTX-FDX, auto
re0: Ethernet address: 00:0f:ea:44:9d:a3
atkbdc0:  port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0
atkbd0:  flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
orm0:  at iomem 0xc0000-0xc7fff on isa0
ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range
sc0:  at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio0: port may not be enabled
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 8250 or not responding
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1: port may not be enabled
vga0:  at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1407052006 Hz quality 800
Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
ad0: DMA limited to UDMA33, device found non-ATA66 cable
ad0: 58644MB  at ata0-master UDMA33
acd0: CDRW  at ata0-slave UDMA33
ad4: 238475MB  at ata2-master UDMA100
ad5: 238474MB  at ata2-slave UDMA100
ad6: 190782MB  at ata3-master UDMA100
ad7: 190782MB  at ata3-slave UDMA100
Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
--- satsmb.60R.amd64.dmesg ends here ---


>Release-Note:
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>Unformatted:

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Pav's project.

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=88499

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>Number:         88503
>Category:       www
>Synopsis:       Dead link in the online manpages for FreeBSD 6.0
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-www
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Fri Nov 04 21:50:14 GMT 2005
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>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Eli K. Breen
>Release:        n/a
>Organization:
UNIX|Forge Heavy Industries
>Environment:
n/a
>Description:
Reading the manpage for mkunzip online at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=mkuzip&sektion=8&manpath=FreeBSD+6.0-RELEASE
and clicking the link to geom_uzip(4) at 
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=geom_uzip&sektion=4&apropos=0&manpath=FreeBSD+6.0-RELEASE
Results in:
Sorry, no data found for `geom_uzip(4)'
>How-To-Repeat:
See above.
>Fix:
              
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>Responsible:    freebsd-www
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>Release:        FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p5 i386
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>Description:
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>Fix:

This patch adds the file en/news/press-rel-8.sgml

Index: news/Makefile
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/en/news/Makefile,v
retrieving revision 1.43
diff -u -d -p -r1.43 Makefile
--- news/Makefile	19 Sep 2005 20:18:28 -0000	1.43
+++ news/Makefile	4 Nov 2005 20:47:55 -0000
@@ -18,6 +18,7 @@ DOCS+= press-rel-4.sgml
 DOCS+= press-rel-5.sgml
 DOCS+= press-rel-6.sgml
 DOCS+= press-rel-7.sgml
+DOCS+= press-rel-8.sgml
 
 # The yearly State of the Union address
 DOCS+= sou1999.sgml
Index: news/press-rel-8.sgml
===================================================================
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diff -N news/press-rel-8.sgml
--- /dev/null	1 Jan 1970 00:00:00 -0000
+++ news/press-rel-8.sgml	4 Nov 2005 21:36:31 -0000
@@ -0,0 +1,67 @@
+
+
+
+ %navincludes;
+ %includes;
+]>
+
+
+&header;
+
+

FreeBSD raises the bar for open source operating systems.

+ +

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
+ Berkeley, CA November 4, 2005

+ +

The FreeBSD Project announces the availability of FreeBSD 6.0, an open + source operating system derived from BSD UNIX, which offers a powerful + alternative to Linux, Solaris, and Windows. FreeBSD enables enterprise + organizations to utilize open source technologies that focus on + reliability, security, and scalability.

+ +

"Yahoo! is impressed with the performance and stability of FreeBSD 6.0," + says David Filo, Yahoo! co-founder. Yahoo! is one of many enterprise + companies that rely on the world-renowned stability and performance of the + FreeBSD operating system.

+ +

One of the new features in FreeBSD 6.0 is a multithreaded filesystem, + which greatly improves data access times for local disks, RAID + configurations, network filesystems, and SANs. Recent performance + benchmarks show that FreeBSD 6.0 outperforms Linux in raw data + throughput.

+ +

Additionally, FreeBSD 6.0 extends support for wireless devices such as + Intel Centrino and adds support for the popular new WPA wireless security + protocol. Several improvements are incorporated into NDISulator, a + component of the operating system that allows Windows network drivers to + run natively under FreeBSD.

+ +

FreeBSD now scales much more efficiently across multiple processor + systems. Support for 8 or more processors, such as the new dual core AMD + Opteron configurations, gives consumers a viable alternative against more + expensive, proprietary hardware platforms and operating systems from IBM, + HP, and Sun.

+ +

About the FreeBSD Project

+ +

The FreeBSD Project provides a free, open source operating system for + several platforms, including Intel x86 and AMD64. FreeBSD is derived from + BSD, the version of UNIX developed at UC Berkeley. The unencumbered BSD + license permits modification and redistribution of the software while + allowing an individual or company to retain intellectual property.

+ +

For more information, please visit + www.FreeBSD.org.

+ +

Press Contact

+ +

For interviews or further information, contact: marketing@FreeBSD.org, + +1-408-943-4100 ext 113; or The FreeBSD Foundation, +1-720-207-5142

+ +&footer; + + + + Index: news/pressreleases.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/en/news/pressreleases.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.10 diff -u -d -p -r1.10 pressreleases.sgml --- news/pressreleases.sgml 4 Oct 2005 19:43:48 -0000 1.10 +++ news/pressreleases.sgml 4 Nov 2005 20:42:32 -0000 @@ -17,6 +17,12 @@
+
November 4, 2005
+
+FreeBSD Project Launches FreeBSD 6.0 +

+
+
January 20, 2003
FreeBSD Project announces FreeBSD 5.0 >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 23:26:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C5FB16A420 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 23:26:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from nic.ach.sch.gr (nic.sch.gr [194.63.238.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F4A43D48 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 23:26:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (qmail 27204 invoked by uid 207); 4 Nov 2005 23:26:54 -0000 Received: from keramida@freebsd.org by nic by uid 201 with qmail-scanner-1.21 (sophie: 3.04/2.30/3.97. Clear:RC:1(81.186.70.125):. Processed in 5.340081 secs); 04 Nov 2005 23:26:54 -0000 Received: from dialup125.ach.sch.gr (HELO flame.pc) ([81.186.70.125]) (envelope-sender ) by nic.sch.gr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 4 Nov 2005 23:26:48 -0000 Received: from flame.pc (flame [127.0.0.1]) by flame.pc (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jA4NQHox002383; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 01:26:17 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by flame.pc (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id jA4NQHLJ002382; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 01:26:17 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 01:26:16 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Marc Fonvieille Message-ID: <20051104232616.GB2289@flame.pc> References: <200511030125.jA31PLrJ023110@bright.research.att.com> <20051104103619.GB602@gothic.blackend.org> <20051104124921.01f8d98d@localhost> <436B80B4.6080107@freebsd.org> <20051104173806.GK602@gothic.blackend.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051104173806.GK602@gothic.blackend.org> Cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Huge fixed-width fonts on web mailing list archive X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 23:26:57 -0000 On 2005-11-04 18:38, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > On Sat, Nov 05, 2005 at 02:39:32AM +1100, Emily Boyd wrote: > > >Deleting the font-size line should be enough. > > > > > >I think there is no reason to increase pre's > > >font size above the default. > > > > There is actually a reason for that line. > > > > Without that compensation, pre text ends up tiny on the majority of > > browsers/platforms (try it and see :) Emily, I honestly appreciate all the time & work you've put into the new web site. I for one believe that it looks amazing and we can built on top of it, creating a superb web site for FreeBSD. I'm not sure I understand what the 'majority of browsers' is here. I *did* try it on IE 6.X on Windows 2000 at work, on Firefox and Mozilla on FreeBSD at my laptop and Firefox running in an Ubuntu Live CD-ROM. The size of
 and  elements
was consistently larger than the surrounding 'running text',
making it stand out in a very clear but annoying way.

Web style is probably not my strength, but the screenshots Marc
posted up-thread show exactly why this looked slightly ugly.

> For the moment I just commented out the font-size on
> global.css, this should please many persons.

It does, if you ask me.  If anyone has sample screenshots that
clearly show why this size is too small, I'd be very interested
to see them, please.

- Giorgos


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Hi,

>>For the moment I just commented out the font-size on
>>global.css, this should please many persons.
> 
> It does, if you ask me.  If anyone has sample screenshots that
> clearly show why this size is too small, I'd be very interested
> to see them, please.

Try Firefox (or any Mozilla-based browser) on Windows:

http://www.emilyboyd.com/design/freebsd/pre_firefox_win.png

Or Safari:

http://www.emilyboyd.com/design/freebsd/pre_safari_mac.png

As I said, it's now unreadable.

Until we can work out the proper fix, I would recommend putting it back
to how it was; having larger (but perfectly readable) fonts in some
browsers is far better than having tiny fonts in others.

Emily

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On 2005-11-05 11:40, Emily Boyd  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> >>For the moment I just commented out the font-size on
> >>global.css, this should please many persons.
> >
> >It does, if you ask me.  If anyone has sample screenshots that
> >clearly show why this size is too small, I'd be very interested
> >to see them, please.
>
> Try Firefox (or any Mozilla-based browser) on Windows:
>
> http://www.emilyboyd.com/design/freebsd/pre_firefox_win.png
>
> Or Safari:
>
> http://www.emilyboyd.com/design/freebsd/pre_safari_mac.png
>
> As I said, it's now unreadable.

Then we need to find out why.  Increasing the size of *all* 
elements doesn't seem right.  The DOM inspector of Firefox shows that
this particular element is:

HTML > BODY > #containerwrap > #container > #content > pre

There is no CSS rule applies to its font-size, so this means that on
Windows the font-size of constant-width fonts is smaller than on other
platforms *OR* that this is a side-effect of forcing font-size: 69% for
all of .

Can we please at least try removing the font-size:69% before the
font-size of 
 elements is increased?  I suspect that this 69% size
of  affects what you see on Windows in a much more visible way
than it does in X11.

> Until we can work out the proper fix, I would recommend putting it back
> to how it was; having larger (but perfectly readable) fonts in some
> browsers is far better than having tiny fonts in others.

I don't really like putting it back, but if you insist then it may be
the only choise we have.

This is a catch-22.  If we put it back, then X11 browsers will show
garbage.  If we don't put it back, Windows browsers will show garbage.
There are perfectly good web pages that don't break because the browser
happens to have a default point size of 12 pt, so either way (putting it
back or not) we _really_ have to track down why it happens and fix the
real bug and not the symptoms.

- Giorgos


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>Number:         88514
>Category:       www
>Synopsis:       Getting listed as a FreeBSD Publisher
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I would like to get listed as a FreeBSD Publisher (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors.html               , Section A.1.2 CD and DVD Sets).  We currently list FreeBSD 5.4 and 6.0.

My information is as follows:

TheLinuxStore.ca
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On Sat, Nov 05, 2005 at 11:40:45AM +1100, Emily Boyd wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> >>For the moment I just commented out the font-size on
> >>global.css, this should please many persons.
> >
> >It does, if you ask me.  If anyone has sample screenshots that
> >clearly show why this size is too small, I'd be very interested
> >to see them, please.
> 
> Try Firefox (or any Mozilla-based browser) on Windows:
> 
> http://www.emilyboyd.com/design/freebsd/pre_firefox_win.png
> 
> Or Safari:
> 
> http://www.emilyboyd.com/design/freebsd/pre_safari_mac.png
> 
> As I said, it's now unreadable.

Well, it's difficult to compare systems that do not use the same default
size for fonts with their browsers (16px/96dpi under windows, 14px or
12px under Mac), etc.
http://www.thenoodleincident.com/tutorials/box_lesson/font/ will explain
that with nice examples.

> 
> Until we can work out the proper fix, I would recommend putting it back
> to how it was; having larger (but perfectly readable) fonts in some
> browsers is far better than having tiny fonts in others.
> 

As I said in a previous mail, the problem is not new but was less
disturbing.  For example let's look at
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-start.html
this page is full of 
 (every console output uses
).  If we look carefully to the CSS, we can see that there is
no font-size definition; so I tried many browsers (Firefox, IE under
windows, and Firefox/Mozilla under FreeBSD) and it was readable in all
cases (maybe Firefow under windows was displaying the smallest font but
it was different from the current 
 used in the new layout).

So I believe there is a problem with "font definition" in the new
layout.  From my point of view I'd prefer to keep the "current small"
scheme since it's possible for Firefox/Windows and Safari/OS X users to
click on "large font" to get a readable page; I mean people can get a
proper display without tweaking their font settings.
However, I think we have to investigate this font size issue to get the
same rendering as we currently have with the Handbook and such.

Marc

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On Sat, Nov 05, 2005 at 03:45:41AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
[...]
> > http://www.emilyboyd.com/design/freebsd/pre_firefox_win.png
> >
> > Or Safari:
> >
> > http://www.emilyboyd.com/design/freebsd/pre_safari_mac.png
> >
> > As I said, it's now unreadable.
> 
> Then we need to find out why.  Increasing the size of *all* 
> elements doesn't seem right.  The DOM inspector of Firefox shows that
> this particular element is:
> 
> HTML > BODY > #containerwrap > #container > #content > pre
> 
> There is no CSS rule applies to its font-size, so this means that on
> Windows the font-size of constant-width fonts is smaller than on other
> platforms *OR* that this is a side-effect of forcing font-size: 69% for
> all of .
> 
> Can we please at least try removing the font-size:69% before the
> font-size of 
 elements is increased?  I suspect that this 69% size
> of  affects what you see on Windows in a much more visible way
> than it does in X11.
> 
> > Until we can work out the proper fix, I would recommend putting it back
> > to how it was; having larger (but perfectly readable) fonts in some
> > browsers is far better than having tiny fonts in others.
> 
> I don't really like putting it back, but if you insist then it may be
> the only choise we have.
> 
> This is a catch-22.  If we put it back, then X11 browsers will show
> garbage.  If we don't put it back, Windows browsers will show garbage.

People can click on "Text Size: Large" at the top of the page to get a
"proper rendering" for the moment.  This is better than get back to
"crazy HUGE" font for non-windows/OS X users.

> There are perfectly good web pages that don't break because the browser
> happens to have a default point size of 12 pt, so either way (putting it
> back or not) we _really_ have to track down why it happens and fix the
> real bug and not the symptoms.

As I said in another mail, our doc/ uses a lot of 
 without
this issue (or at least with readable small fonts).

Marc

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On 2005-11-05 12:06, Marc Fonvieille  wrote:
>On Sat, Nov 05, 2005 at 03:45:41AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
>[...]
>> > Until we can work out the proper fix, I would recommend putting it back
>> > to how it was; having larger (but perfectly readable) fonts in some
>> > browsers is far better than having tiny fonts in others.
>>
>> I don't really like putting it back, but if you insist then it may be
>> the only choise we have.
>>
>> This is a catch-22.  If we put it back, then X11 browsers will show
>> garbage.  If we don't put it back, Windows browsers will show garbage.
>
> People can click on "Text Size: Large" at the top of the page
> to get a "proper rendering" for the moment.  This is better
> than get back to "crazy HUGE" font for non-windows/OS X users.
>
>> There are perfectly good web pages that don't break because
>> the browser happens to have a default point size of 12 pt, so
>> either way (putting it back or not) we _really_ have to track
>> down why it happens and fix the real bug and not the
>> symptoms.
>
> As I said in another mail, our doc/ uses a lot of 

> without this issue (or at least with readable small fonts).

This is mostly why I think the small size in Windows is a bug of
the current CSS layout that is unrelated to using 
 or other
HTML elements to mark preformatted text.


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"Remko Lodder"  wrote
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re> Not by sgmlnorm indeed, but a newer version of tidy is capable of doing
re> so. Hiroki Sato was looking into this and it's one of my open PR's....
re> (hrs CC'ed)
re>
re> What was said at the time that we only needed to merge the --preserve
re> option and test away after that. So we can solve this, not by sgmlnorm
re> but via tidy. The only difficult item is that there is no normal
re> version of tidy anymore. The current tidy is not maintained anymore and
re> there is a devel version available which updates every x period of
re> time.
re>
re> @hrs: idea's?

 Sorry for the delay.  This case conversion of the id attribute is
 required according to the SGML specification, so the sgmlnorm's behavior
 is correct.  It means  and  are identical and
 sgmlnorm normalizes them into .  You can see attributes
 other than "id" preserves the case.

 However, the XML specification distinguishes the case.  We have used
 HTML 4.01 DTD (SGML) for our www tree and *forcibly* converted the
 docs to XHTML 1.0 (XML) by using tidy(1).  This problem is caused by
 this pushiness.

 Well, I think simply using capital letters in the id attribute
 consistently solves the problem...or, am I missing something?

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Subject: Re: Huge fixed-width fonts on web mailing list archive
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On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 03:52:53PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> >
> > The problem seems to be caused by global.css:
> >
> > pre {
> >   font-family: monospace;
> >   font-size: 1.4em;
> > }
> >
> > Deleting the font-size line should be enough.
> >
> > I think there is no reason to increase pre's font size above the
> > default.
> 
> You're absolutely right.  Thanks for tracking this down :)
>

Ok, I just commented out this line.
Thanks!

Marc

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