From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 16 13:35:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C51B816A402 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 13:35:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpetsmoker@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8282C43D48 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 13:35:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from carpetsmoker@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id e30so1371301pya for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 06:35:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:date:to:subject:content-type:mime-version:references:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent:from; b=tYHH4DRByvOlDhQOwsh7CFr4ouBjz654nGFKtz/57/PVm9wkEf5spjUwRRCddksusE0f19EgxzG6CMzx5dIFwvW7o9XcArUSDHjBlIf9A9ur2M9mnPQbYGrLqS3/Z7SsIoDe3ppxKGtai9m9/+1PD2xbJvM7vEUueb4qiyIoya8= Received: by 10.35.98.6 with SMTP id a6mr1201668pym; Tue, 16 May 2006 06:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carpetsmoker.ictwerkplaats.org ( [80.126.94.163]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id w76sm663611pyd.2006.05.16.06.35.49; Tue, 16 May 2006 06:35:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 15:34:04 -0000 To: "Kevin Kinsey" , chat@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <44649AFE.20407@daleco.biz> Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <44649AFE.20407@daleco.biz> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.00 (FreeBSD) From: Martin Tournoy Cc: Subject: Re: Reason #465132 to Love FBSD.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 13:35:53 -0000 Use windows 2000, works better and faster than XP anyway, has all the = features XP has, except the teletubby UI, but that's not a feature but t= he = work of the anti-christ... No troubles with updating, or nagscreens On Fri, 12 May 2006 14:26:06 -0000, Kevin Kinsey wrote:= > > > I woke up this morning, and nothing on any of my FreeBSD > machines nagged me about whether or not my software was > "Genuine". > > I feel that's greatly to FreeBSD's "advantage". :-D > > Kevin Kinsey > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 16 16:08:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9845116A8F7 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 16:08:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B377C43D45 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 16:07:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k4GG7vtp097012; Tue, 16 May 2006 11:07:58 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <4469F8D7.9090309@daleco.biz> Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 11:07:51 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.0.2) Gecko/20060509 SeaMonkey/1.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Tournoy References: <44649AFE.20407@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reason #465132 to Love FBSD.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 16:08:20 -0000 Martin Tournoy wrote: > Use windows 2000, works better and faster than XP anyway, has all the > features XP has, except the teletubby UI, but that's not a feature but > the work of the anti-christ... > No troubles with updating, or nagscreens Heh, I've a Thinkpad T23 with Win2K on it, though it really ought to be used for FreeBSD as well --- however, wifey doesn't see it that way just yet. Maybe if I get her a shiny new DELL (*ack, cough, *hack*, sniff, wheeze). As for "no troubles with updating", that's all relative. If I were using a BSD kernel from 1999, nobody would talk to me around here ;-). I also appreciate FreeBSD's rich built-in utility set, and dislike entering my passcode twice to switch users in W2K (which, incidentally, isn't necessary on XP, feature, bug, what have you....). KDK -- Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here? That depends a good deal on where you want to get to, said the Cat. -- Lewis Carroll From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 16 16:57:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA9BC16A9A1 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 16:57:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpetsmoker@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9748843D66 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 16:57:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from carpetsmoker@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so14866nfc for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 09:57:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:date:to:subject:cc:content-type:mime-version:references:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent:from; b=oU+r2BQLsgYGQTk8BmivLjpQiU0f1P/8o+AGewUaNWX+3XZRaEd4Af3Cg772oveCaQLLAmb3K8TxclmMMbWz+kOrx7LLOtnziQM74JZX4niRb6JpXpNcQYVV8NOlCHLWB6LZ5I6XFMXTuRabctjf4wBSxrPW3OnxYag2rO2vG/w= Received: by 10.48.254.5 with SMTP id b5mr4666414nfi; Tue, 16 May 2006 09:57:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carpetsmoker.ictwerkplaats.org ( [80.126.94.163]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q27sm1094320nfc.2006.05.16.09.57.11; Tue, 16 May 2006 09:57:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 18:55:50 -0000 To: "Kevin Kinsey" , "Martin Tournoy" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <44649AFE.20407@daleco.biz> <4469F8D7.9090309@daleco.biz> Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4469F8D7.9090309@daleco.biz> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.00 (FreeBSD) From: Martin Tournoy Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reason #465132 to Love FBSD.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 16:57:35 -0000 Kernel from 1999 or 2001, what's the diffrence? Both old... Thats the thing with any version of windows, it's already outdated even = = before it's released... Why no FreeBSD? I set up a freebsd box for my brother, using fluxbox and= = xfce4-panel, and a few "easy" applications (openoffice, xfe, firefox, ga= im = ect.) and he has no trouble using it, even though he's a "computer idiot= " = (well actually, he's an idiot, perdiod, hehe) freebsd is actually easyer then windows, it's a bit harder to setup for = = the avarage user, but once set up by someone who knows his stuff, it's = really easy to use... On Tue, 16 May 2006 16:07:51 -0000, Kevin Kinsey wrote:= > Martin Tournoy wrote: >> Use windows 2000, works better and faster than XP anyway, has all the= = >> features XP has, except the teletubby UI, but that's not a feature bu= t = >> the work of the anti-christ... >> No troubles with updating, or nagscreens > > > Heh, I've a Thinkpad T23 with Win2K on it, though it really > ought to be used for FreeBSD as well --- however, wifey doesn't > see it that way just yet. Maybe if I get her a shiny new > DELL (*ack, cough, *hack*, sniff, wheeze). > > As for "no troubles with updating", that's all relative. If > I were using a BSD kernel from 1999, nobody would talk to me > around here ;-). I also appreciate FreeBSD's rich built-in > utility set, and dislike entering my passcode twice to switch > users in W2K (which, incidentally, isn't necessary on XP, > feature, bug, what have you....). > > > KDK > From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 16 18:07:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 202CE16AFAD for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 18:07:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 607D543D7C for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 18:07:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k4GI7QMn013222; Tue, 16 May 2006 13:07:34 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <446A14D6.9050000@daleco.biz> Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 13:07:18 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.0.2) Gecko/20060509 SeaMonkey/1.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Tournoy References: <44649AFE.20407@daleco.biz> <4469F8D7.9090309@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reason #465132 to Love FBSD.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 18:07:44 -0000 Martin Tournoy wrote: > Kernel from 1999 or 2001, what's the diffrence? Both old... > Thats the thing with any version of windows, it's already outdated even > before it's released... > Heh. > Why no FreeBSD? I set up a freebsd box for my brother, using fluxbox and > xfce4-panel, and a few "easy" applications (openoffice, xfe, firefox, > gaim ect.) and he has no trouble using it, even though he's a "computer > idiot" (well actually, he's an idiot, perdiod, hehe) > > freebsd is actually easyer then windows, it's a bit harder to setup for > the avarage user, but once set up by someone who knows his stuff, it's > really easy to use... She has a few apps she's attached to, and, besides, she's my wife. Maybe it's our "chocolate-jalapeno" relationship, but if I use FreeBSD and prefer not to use Windows, she's going to prefer Windoze, safe bet. I've run FreeSBIE on her desktop box in the house, but she's not assured it's for her (and, I suppose, I've not done much to convince her). For the most part, it works, and my son likes his AOE ... but *I'm* a Serious User(tm) ;-) KDK -- The trouble with a kitten is that When it grows up, it's always a cat -- Ogden Nash. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 16 21:15:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6588416A810 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 21:15:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaron@aaronholmes.net) Received: from evildomain.org (adsl-68-125-35-181.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net [68.125.35.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18F0043D70 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 21:15:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aaron@aaronholmes.net) Received: by evildomain.org (Postfix, from userid 1013) id 84523B0B; Thu, 11 May 2006 19:18:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on evildomain.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=ham version=3.1.1 Received: from [192.168.1.99] (router.evildomain.org [192.168.1.1]) by evildomain.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E51CB09 for ; Thu, 11 May 2006 19:18:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4463F06B.4020302@aaronholmes.net> Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 19:18:19 -0700 From: Aaron Holmes User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: The Complete FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 21:15:11 -0000 Anyone happen to know if a 5th version is on the way? I'd be disappoint to buy the 4th only to have a new one come soon after From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 16 21:23:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0BC916AA2F for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 21:23:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from geekout@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A643D43D48 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 21:23:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from geekout@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i11so15045nzi for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 14:23:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=BdFJYsdFpKkUpIcr3Hdsln4DHWyg4QUIdQv6euRaYigKk0eDAaxb5eBbwDnt3872M4UmSFZ/8FaCJQLTi0mGK51cz4LKCWJG4BUdiuJEUgY87HUs/9hFkGaCrSk8frQKrFydNffBeh86InKWh0sy2b493X2U9b98iOh5hOHP2qw= Received: by 10.36.3.16 with SMTP id 16mr240778nzc; Tue, 16 May 2006 14:23:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.227.2 with HTTP; Tue, 16 May 2006 14:23:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6e01203b0605161423p4c443f68l5bc9ffae4d0f25a0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 11:23:34 -1000 From: "Tyler Gee" To: "Aaron Holmes" In-Reply-To: <4463F06B.4020302@aaronholmes.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <4463F06B.4020302@aaronholmes.net> Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The Complete FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 21:23:58 -0000 I believe it is free now. http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/ On 5/11/06, Aaron Holmes wrote: > Anyone happen to know if a 5th version is on the way? > I'd be disappoint to buy the 4th only to have a new one come soon after > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > --=20 ~Tyler From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 17 02:07:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C2D16A401 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 02:07:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from mail07.powweb.com (mail07.powweb.com [66.152.97.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA13543D46 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 02:07:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42.vulpes (24-119-225-24.cpe.cableone.net [24.119.225.24]) by mail07.powweb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 154F314DF1E for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 19:07:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 21:08:01 -0500 From: Vulpes Velox To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060516210801.21385787@vixen42.vulpes> In-Reply-To: References: <44649AFE.20407@daleco.biz> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.2.0 (GTK+ 2.8.17; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Reason #465132 to Love FBSD.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 02:07:06 -0000 On Tue, 16 May 2006 15:34:04 -0000 Martin Tournoy wrote: > Use windows 2000, works better and faster than XP anyway, has all > the features XP has, except the teletubby UI, but that's not a > feature but the work of the anti-christ... > No troubles with updating, or nagscreens Messing with wireless under XP is less of a PITA than 2k. What I would really love to know is where to find the bloody key is that some ass hole vendors nuke that forces you to use their broken ass config gui. What I like about FreeBSD is wireless is not a freaking PITA to mess with. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 17 11:38:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D46516A498 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 11:38:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hackmiester@hackmiester.com) Received: from smtpout08-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpout08-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C12BE43D48 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 11:38:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hackmiester@hackmiester.com) Received: (qmail 17342 invoked from network); 17 May 2006 11:38:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (65.0.171.101) by smtpout08-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.12) with ESMTP; 17 May 2006 11:38:25 -0000 In-Reply-To: <20060516210801.21385787@vixen42.vulpes> References: <44649AFE.20407@daleco.biz> <20060516210801.21385787@vixen42.vulpes> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2228DB79-EC3B-40FF-B50B-220B5E7886BE@hackmiester.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Hunter Fuller Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 06:38:55 +0000 To: Vulpes Velox X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reason #465132 to Love FBSD.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 11:38:29 -0000 On 17 May 2006, at 2:08 AM, Vulpes Velox wrote: > On Tue, 16 May 2006 15:34:04 -0000 > Martin Tournoy wrote: > >> Use windows 2000, works better and faster than XP anyway, has all >> the features XP has, except the teletubby UI, but that's not a >> feature but the work of the anti-christ... >> No troubles with updating, or nagscreens > > Messing with wireless under XP is less of a PITA than 2k. What I would > really love to know is where to find the bloody key is that some ass > hole vendors nuke that forces you to use their broken ass config gui. First you disable their utility from starting at boot. Then you scan for wireless networks, and when it complains about not being able to touch it, click the yellow star at left and enable Windows' managing the card. This is under SP2, if you need < SP2 reply, I'll happily assist. > > What I like about FreeBSD is wireless is not a freaking PITA to mess > with. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 17 17:35:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FD0716B730 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 17:35:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from liamfoy@sepulcrum.org) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05E8D43D4C for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 17:35:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from liamfoy@sepulcrum.org) Received: from [86.130.145.60] (helo=[192.168.0.7]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu9) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML2xA-1FgPvj1iro-0000jl; Wed, 17 May 2006 19:35:31 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v750) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: FreeBSD Chat List From: "Liam J. Foy" Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 18:35:26 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:1ca2002b29693e660bea0febad56607a Subject: Lunch and... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 17:35:40 -0000 I was having lunch and decided to run the toilet. I was happy to see beastie joined me too: http://netbsd.org/~liamjfoy/sweet.jpg Thats a condom machine, by the way. I think there are multiple ones popping up all over. I have seen about three to date in three different restaurants/bars. --- Liam J. Foy BSDPortal.org From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 17 17:58:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39B7716ACE2 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 17:58:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from db@db.net) Received: from heceta.db.net (heceta.db.net [142.46.199.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D17C543D6D for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 17:58:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from db@db.net) Received: from heceta.db.net ([142.46.199.182] helo=localhost ident=mailnull) by heceta.db.net with esmtp (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1FgQHr-0004V5-EY; Wed, 17 May 2006 13:58:19 -0400 Received: from localhost.dbn ([127.0.0.1] helo=night.db.net) by night.db.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1FgQHq-0009Vg-Nu; Wed, 17 May 2006 13:58:18 -0400 Received: (from db@localhost) by night.db.net (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k4HHwHg9036559; Wed, 17 May 2006 13:58:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from db@night.db.net) Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 13:58:17 -0400 From: Diane Bruce To: "Liam J. Foy" Message-ID: <20060517175817.GA36547@night.db.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: FreeBSD Chat List Subject: Re: Lunch and... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 17:58:28 -0000 On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 06:35:26PM +0100, Liam J. Foy wrote: > I was having lunch and decided to run the toilet. I was happy to > see beastie joined me too: > > http://netbsd.org/~liamjfoy/sweet.jpg > > Thats a condom machine, by the way. I think there are multiple > ones popping up all over. I have seen about three to date in three > different restaurants/bars. I saw a photo of one these on the net a year or two back, I e-mailed Kirk then. I don't know if he did anything about it. -- - db@db.net http://www.db.net/~db From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 18 00:13:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CACA16B1C6 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 00:13:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from mail07.powweb.com (mail07.powweb.com [66.152.97.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A808A43D53 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 00:12:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42.vulpes (24-119-225-24.cpe.cableone.net [24.119.225.24]) by mail07.powweb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DAF314DCA9; Wed, 17 May 2006 17:12:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 19:13:57 -0500 From: Vulpes Velox To: Hunter Fuller Message-ID: <20060517191357.533464df@vixen42.vulpes> In-Reply-To: <2228DB79-EC3B-40FF-B50B-220B5E7886BE@hackmiester.com> References: <44649AFE.20407@daleco.biz> <20060516210801.21385787@vixen42.vulpes> <2228DB79-EC3B-40FF-B50B-220B5E7886BE@hackmiester.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.2.0 (GTK+ 2.8.17; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reason #465132 to Love FBSD.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 00:13:23 -0000 On Wed, 17 May 2006 06:38:55 +0000 Hunter Fuller wrote: > > On 17 May 2006, at 2:08 AM, Vulpes Velox wrote: > > > On Tue, 16 May 2006 15:34:04 -0000 > > Martin Tournoy wrote: > > > >> Use windows 2000, works better and faster than XP anyway, has all > >> the features XP has, except the teletubby UI, but that's not a > >> feature but the work of the anti-christ... > >> No troubles with updating, or nagscreens > > > > Messing with wireless under XP is less of a PITA than 2k. What I > > would really love to know is where to find the bloody key is that > > some ass hole vendors nuke that forces you to use their broken > > ass config gui. > First you disable their utility from starting at boot. Then you > scan for wireless networks, and when it complains about not being > able to touch it, click the yellow star at left and enable Windows' > managing the card. This is under SP2, if you need < SP2 reply, I'll > happily assist. That is the problem. The tab on the properties dialog that you would normally tell windows to manage it is removed by it. The driver installer will do this on are wireless cards installed and not just the card it is being installed for. I will check to see if the star thing is present on the available wireless network window tomorrow though. What I plan to do some time when I have some time to experiment up at work is to install the card, dump the registry to a text file, install the drivers, dump it to a text file again, and then diff it and see what shows up. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 18 00:47:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B8EB16AA2D for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 00:47:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from ext-gw.lemis.com (ext-gw.lemis.com [150.101.14.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7F6843D46 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 00:47:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by ext-gw.lemis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84C9D1310C9; Thu, 18 May 2006 10:17:23 +0930 (CST) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 68F0C8617F; Thu, 18 May 2006 10:17:23 +0930 (CST) Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 10:17:23 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Diane Bruce Message-ID: <20060518004723.GN61448@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20060517175817.GA36547@night.db.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="N/GrjenRD+RJfyz+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060517175817.GA36547@night.db.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 VoIP: sip:0871270137@sip.internode.on.net WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Cc: "Liam J. Foy" , Kirk McKusick , FreeBSD Chat List Subject: Re: Lunch and... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 00:47:25 -0000 --N/GrjenRD+RJfyz+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday, 17 May 2006 at 13:58:17 -0400, Diane Bruce wrote: > On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 06:35:26PM +0100, Liam J. Foy wrote: >> I was having lunch and decided to run the toilet. I was happy to >> see beastie joined me too: >> >> http://netbsd.org/~liamjfoy/sweet.jpg >> >> Thats a condom machine, by the way. I think there are multiple >> ones popping up all over. I have seen about three to date in three >> different restaurants/bars. > > I saw a photo of one these on the net a year or two back, I e-mailed > Kirk then. I don't know if he did anything about it. IIRC this has been around there, and Kirk knows about it. It looks like he hasn't been able to eradicate the abuse :-( Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --N/GrjenRD+RJfyz+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFEa8QbIubykFB6QiMRAj0qAJ9E+Yzv0TnU6YlZmDgCPbduyMjsRwCfTInw J1ZILvzfchmSXS70yDKkYLA= =OKV0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --N/GrjenRD+RJfyz+-- From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 18 07:30:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12DD116A402 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 07:30:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaron@aaronholmes.net) Received: from evildomain.org (adsl-69-104-217-25.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net [69.104.217.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E26F43D46 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 07:30:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aaron@aaronholmes.net) Received: by evildomain.org (Postfix, from userid 1013) id 099A045C; Thu, 18 May 2006 00:30:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on evildomain.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.1 Received: from [192.168.1.99] (router.evildomain.org [192.168.1.1]) by evildomain.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 947BF150 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 00:30:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <446C2284.4020404@aaronholmes.net> Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 00:30:12 -0700 From: Aaron Holmes User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: CoLo sexiness X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 07:30:13 -0000 So I visited my first CoLo today, and saw on the control room monitors, the FreeBSD deamon screen saver. I felt proud to be a FreeBSD sysadmin *sobby tears* Come celebrate with me. I'm eating cookies and drinking milk! -Aaron From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 18 13:55:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D19F616A407 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 13:55:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F06943D48 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 13:55:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k4IDtjag031149; Thu, 18 May 2006 08:55:45 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <446C7CDB.9090903@daleco.biz> Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 08:55:39 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.0.2) Gecko/20060509 SeaMonkey/1.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aaron Holmes , chat@freebsd.org References: <446C2284.4020404@aaronholmes.net> In-Reply-To: <446C2284.4020404@aaronholmes.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: CoLo sexiness X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 13:55:52 -0000 Aaron Holmes wrote: > So I visited my first CoLo today, and saw on the control room monitors, > the FreeBSD deamon screen saver. > I felt proud to be a FreeBSD sysadmin *sobby tears* > Come celebrate with me. I'm eating cookies and drinking milk! > > -Aaron Choco chip? Something good, I hope. I have downed 8 oz. 2% in empathy/tribute .... Also, watch your SLs ... "CoLo sexiness" very nearly got "junked" ... ;-) :D KDK PS > BTW, isn't it "daemon", not "deamon", as best not to further confuse what is already confusing to some? -- Yow! Am I in Milwaukee? -- Zippy the Pinhead From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 18 21:43:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 631D816A402 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 21:43:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaron@aaronholmes.net) Received: from evildomain.org (adsl-69-104-217-25.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net [69.104.217.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 172C843D48 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 21:43:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aaron@aaronholmes.net) Received: by evildomain.org (Postfix, from userid 1013) id 247C0439; Thu, 18 May 2006 14:42:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on evildomain.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.1 Received: from [192.168.1.99] (router.evildomain.org [192.168.1.1]) by evildomain.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D27645C; Thu, 18 May 2006 14:42:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <446CEA5F.3030901@aaronholmes.net> Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 14:42:55 -0700 From: Aaron Holmes User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Kinsey References: <446C2284.4020404@aaronholmes.net> <446C7CDB.9090903@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <446C7CDB.9090903@daleco.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CoLo sexiness X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 21:43:05 -0000 Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Aaron Holmes wrote: >> So I visited my first CoLo today, and saw on the control room >> monitors, the FreeBSD deamon screen saver. >> I felt proud to be a FreeBSD sysadmin *sobby tears* >> Come celebrate with me. I'm eating cookies and drinking milk! >> >> -Aaron > > Choco chip? Something good, I hope. I have downed > 8 oz. 2% in empathy/tribute .... > > Also, watch your SLs ... "CoLo sexiness" very nearly > got "junked" ... ;-) > > :D > > KDK > > PS > BTW, isn't it "daemon", not "deamon", as best not to > further confuse what is already confusing to some? > d'oh, yes, it is daemon