From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 25 20:33:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDD416A47E for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2006 20:33:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-atm@freebsd.org) From: owner-freebsd-atm@freebsd.org To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2103271692==" Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 13:33:11 -0700 Precedence: bulk X-BeenThere: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 X-List-Administrivia: yes Sender: owner-freebsd-atm@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-atm@freebsd.org X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: The results of your email commands X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 20:33:11 -0000 --===============2103271692== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The results of your email command are provided below. Attached is your original message. - Results: Ignoring non-text/plain MIME parts freebsd-chat@freebsd.org is not a member of the freebsd-atm mailing list - Unprocessed: You have the experience but lack the proper University Degree. qX3fISe0Jg8ZN - Done. --===============2103271692== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-atm-unsubscribe@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-atm-unsubscribe@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB8B816A40F for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2006 20:33:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-chat@freebsd.org) Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (aatr78.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [83.5.255.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D583C43D6D for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2006 20:33:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-chat@freebsd.org) From: To: freebsd-atm-unsubscribe@freebsd.org Subject: You have the experience but lack the proper University Degree. qX3fISe0Jg8ZN Message-Id: <20060925203307.D583C43D6D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 20:33:07 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Want the degree but cant find the time? 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The economics of the "cognition enterprise" investigates in which way these economic restrictions influence the form and content of our model. --===============2103271692==-- From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 27 04:53:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E9C16A403 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 04:53:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamlsd@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE99943D70 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 04:53:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adamlsd@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so81354wxd for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2006 21:53:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer:sender; b=obLAmUoCyAWcL1gyQg/YkUE9/FyZKXMfDF50NipPGZzXj4DNUoeHZTz47jkXNfalSR4l6rZ3q+DRwFV1ShioPxU7yZHOIUAt3dhav7E//5KyIA3b5vcFGxkug5vyMbvqjkAttm7ijMhWJ1mk42A5UtmsUpvOi29+ailMi4YSYjQ= Received: by 10.70.37.12 with SMTP id k12mr560573wxk; Tue, 26 Sep 2006 21:53:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?130.245.126.51? ( [130.245.126.51]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h34sm437311wxd.2006.09.26.21.53.17; Tue, 26 Sep 2006 21:53:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <45125885.2060209@401.cx> References: <20060920104047.GA49442@splork.wirewater.yow> <20060920185542.GE1075@zaphod.nitro.dk> <45125885.2060209@401.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Adam Martin Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 00:53:22 -0400 To: "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Sender: Adam Martin Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Party X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 04:53:21 -0000 On 2006 Sep 21 , at 05:16, Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg wrote: > Adam Martin wrote: > [snip] >> Boy, between spam, sshd-bruteforce attempts, and tons of other >> stuff.... the 'net has become such an annoying place these days. >> Every >> year this stuff seems to just get worse... *sigh* All this net-trash >> gives me a headache. What a waste of technology, resources, and >> bandwidth. > > What bothers me is that all these probes, scans, spams etc still > succeeds in some cases, otherwise nobody would be doing them. > As long as people click on spamlinks and leave their systems open to > automated intrusion, we will have to live with this kind of behavior. > But, as you say, it is a damn waste. I think it's just that I pine for better days. Just 5 years ago, this behaviour was restricted mostly to Windoze systems. 5 years before that, the notion of net-wide "evil traffic" as a constant background noise was far fetched. And just 5 years before that, 15 years ago, the notion of loads of background evil traffic was, as far as I recall, appalling. After the whole of that spam episode, combined with several spikes in local ssh-bruteforce attempts... I just felt despondent. I still do. It seems like the whole 'net has gone to hell in a handbasket. So as I said, I pine for better days. But I think I am a curmudgeon these days :-) Regards, -- Adam David Alan Martin From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 27 11:10:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D7ED16A415 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 11:10:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wittig.robert@sbcglobal.net) Received: from smtp113.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp113.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.229.92]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7202543D58 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 11:10:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wittig.robert@sbcglobal.net) Received: (qmail 67767 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2006 11:10:25 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=g1KV3hGU1yF+lDz7kgASL7bgtvCrBmr8wULnRRhXTkO2p4cGc20EVH9y3AodnZRB4vSqkQJgs46z1BUqwI8cHBxhib6kX0sWM4u6mhitKfBwCx/s81Z20+rY2h+LX46ZbzLiYYiAFGRe7efne1h70y3eLdC4CupqTxeFPRXSeIM= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.3?) (wittig.robert@sbcglobal.net@70.142.248.62 with plain) by smtp113.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Sep 2006 11:10:25 -0000 Message-ID: <451A5C6F.5040001@sbcglobal.net> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 06:11:43 -0500 From: Robert C Wittig User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org References: <20060920104047.GA49442@splork.wirewater.yow> <20060920185542.GE1075@zaphod.nitro.dk> <45125885.2060209@401.cx> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Party X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 11:10:27 -0000 Adam Martin wrote: > I think it's just that I pine for better days. Just 5 years ago, > this behaviour was restricted mostly to Windoze systems. 5 years before > that, the notion of net-wide "evil traffic" as a constant background > noise was far fetched. And just 5 years before that, 15 years ago, the > notion of loads of background evil traffic was, as far as I recall, > appalling. > > After the whole of that spam episode, combined with several spikes > in local ssh-bruteforce attempts... I just felt despondent. I still > do. It seems like the whole 'net has gone to hell in a handbasket. So > as I said, I pine for better days. But I think I am a curmudgeon these > days :-) Cheer up... you, being an OpenBSD user, are at the top of the food chain, and much less likely to become food for a bigger fish, than most other computer users. The legislators and the people that legislators love are in all likelihood *not* running BSD, or even Linux, and will therefore probably become victims of phishing, identity theft, having their computers hijacked. This will bring the reality of the 'State if the Internet' home to those legislators in a very personal way, inciting them to take legislative action in their various countries (except for Nigeria, where the legislators are involved in running the scams). When the automobile was first invented, there were no 'Rules of the Road'. This was Ok for a while, because cars required a techie, just to operate them. But as cars became simpler to operate, and more popular, and the roads became clogged with maniacs, killing people with their autos, rules had to be set down, to regulate the New Technology. I suspect that something similar is happening with the Internet. Ten years from now, we might be complaining about over-regulation. -- -wittig http://www.robertwittig.com/ . http://robertwittig.net/ From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 27 05:12:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0BFB16A403 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 05:12:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc.ramirez@bluecirclesoft.com) Received: from mail.globalsuite.net (mail.globalsuite.net [69.46.103.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 44E5D43D55 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 05:12:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc.ramirez@bluecirclesoft.com) Received: from [172.17.188.185] (unknown [65.244.228.227]) by mail.globalsuite.net (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 58BC8277 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2006 23:12:34 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <451A0840.5090905@bluecirclesoft.com> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 01:12:32 -0400 From: Marc Ramirez User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chat@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 11:21:17 +0000 Cc: Subject: i had a dream last night... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 05:12:36 -0000 Jesus Monroy Jr. was calling me in the middle of the night. He had a desperate message for John S. Dyson, and I had to deliver it. The message: Al Gore was coming to kick John's ass. What does it mean? Marc. -- Marc Ramirez Blue Circle Software Corporation 513-382-1270 (direct) http://www.bluecirclesoft.com From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 27 14:37:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A64CB16A412 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:37:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listsub@401.cx) Received: from ns2.twenty4help.se (ns2.twenty4help.se [80.65.195.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD7E843D6D for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:37:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from listsub@401.cx) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (132.dairy.twenty4help.se [80.65.195.132]) by ns2.twenty4help.se (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k8REaGOf041675 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 16:36:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from listsub@401.cx) Message-ID: <451A8CA2.8090309@401.cx> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 16:37:22 +0200 From: "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: bsdnews.com aka daemonnews.org status? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:37:42 -0000 Does anyone know what has happened to bsdnews.com aka daemonnews.org? The latest week or so the website has been unreachable. -- R From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 27 15:17:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 549F016A412 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 15:17:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@bitfreak.org) Received: from mail.twinthornes.com (mail.twinthornes.com [65.75.198.147]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC85443D58 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 15:17:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@bitfreak.org) Received: from [10.242.169.21] (c-67-171-135-169.hsd1.or.comcast.net [67.171.135.169]) by mail.twinthornes.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17A1C34D; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 08:17:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <451A95EE.9070107@bitfreak.org> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 08:17:02 -0700 From: freebsd@bitfreak.org User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marc Ramirez References: <451A0840.5090905@bluecirclesoft.com> In-Reply-To: <451A0840.5090905@bluecirclesoft.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: i had a dream last night... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 15:17:23 -0000 Marc Ramirez wrote: > Jesus Monroy Jr. was calling me in the middle of the night. He had a > desperate message for John S. Dyson, and I had to deliver it. The > message: Al Gore was coming to kick John's ass. > > What does it mean? No spicy food before bed? I don't know about you, but dreams about Jesus Monroy Jr. would scare the hell out of me. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 27 15:29:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D314C16A417 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 15:29:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A162843E2B for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 15:27:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k8RFROZL058728; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 11:27:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: Marc Ramirez Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:29:32 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <451A0840.5090905@bluecirclesoft.com> In-Reply-To: <451A0840.5090905@bluecirclesoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609271029.32666.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 27 Sep 2006 11:27:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.3/1947/Tue Sep 26 20:46:56 2006 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: i had a dream last night... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 15:29:18 -0000 On Wednesday 27 September 2006 01:12, Marc Ramirez wrote: > Jesus Monroy Jr. was calling me in the middle of the night. He had a > desperate message for John S. Dyson, and I had to deliver it. The > message: Al Gore was coming to kick John's ass. > > What does it mean? No more pizza with anchovies after midnight. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 27 17:16:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A9116A403 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:16:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sequethin@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 135F543D6E for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:16:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sequethin@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o67so348271pye for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:16:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:to:message-id:content-type:references:from:subject:date:x-mailer; b=Lo4ClQ0vVUV2dzDiJvnhmUAk9AB0Xse3E9BU+kHjsATA3civlDaflqsvBciWPVTrpZZ2QSJ/NKgLZShA6J3tzy56yTG4IyP+WGy+FvMymVXM3uCHJN5SS31V3QL2Tm6RPP0WWd9L7YT+0szn87T67nyePI4c3cM9dKLOPou/gHQ= Received: by 10.35.101.1 with SMTP id d1mr1812578pym; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:16:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.1.0.23? ( [204.107.76.234]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id b43sm978111pyb.2006.09.27.10.16.20; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:16:20 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Message-Id: References: <365C021D-9E09-4306-9CD9-B1D08C50A9F7@techally.com> From: Michael Hernandez Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:16:15 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Fwd: bsdnews.com aka daemonnews.org status? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:16:55 -0000 I forwarded Roger's mail to Mikel King, he's a colleague of mine and happens to be Senior Editor @ Daemon News. He isn't subscribed to freebsd chat so I am forwarding his reply to the list just as an FYI. Mike H. Begin forwarded message: > From: Mikel King > Date: September 27, 2006 1:03:48 PM EDT > To: Roger Vetterberg > Cc: Michael Hernandez > Subject: Re: bsdnews.com aka daemonnews.org status? > > Gentlemen, > > Chris has placed a note on one of our mirror servers @ http:// > www2.daemonnews.org and I am working in what little spare time I > have to establish another mirror. At any rate, if some one would > like to alert the community of our situation it would probably be > very helpful in drawing in a few resources. > > > Cheers, > Mikel King > CIO, Tech Alliance, INC > Senior Editor, Daemon News > 39 West Fourteenth Street > Second Floor > New York, NY 10011 > http://www.ocsny.com > http://www.techally.com > http://www.daemonnews.org > t: 212.727.2100x132 > +------------------------------------------+ > How do you spell cooperation? Pessimists use > each other, but optimists help each other. > Collaboration feeds your spirit, while > competition only stokes your ego. You'll > find the best way to get along. > +------------------------------------------+ > > > From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 27 17:51:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EDE716A47C for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:51:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Rick.Hamell@nike.com) Received: from barrierb241.nike.com (barrierb241.nike.com [146.197.27.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7FE643D77 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:51:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Rick.Hamell@nike.com) X-Server-Uuid: BDE2CC8B-9671-48D4-9A25-CA756DA0A621 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.5.060620 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:50:28 -0700 From: "Rick Hamell" To: "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Message-ID: <200609271750.k8RHoXEN007447@barrierb241.nike.com> Thread-Topic: bsdnews.com aka daemonnews.org status? Thread-Index: AcbiXWrnqXZnwE5QEduBwAAWy5M5Cw== In-Reply-To: <451A8CA2.8090309@401.cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Sep 2006 17:50:25.0521 (UTC) FILETIME=[696CC610:01C6E25D] X-WSS-ID: 6904666B1J81636421-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: bsdnews.com aka daemonnews.org status? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:51:41 -0000 On 9/27/06 7:37 AM, "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" wrote: > Does anyone know what has happened to bsdnews.com aka daemonnews.org? > The latest week or so the website has been unreachable. The Christians are subjecting it to a DOS attack due to it's "News about Satan." Sorry, couldn't resist. -- Rick Hamell From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 27 19:17:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D3F16A40F for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 19:17:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nik@freebsd.org) Received: from jc.ngo.org.uk (jc.ngo.org.uk [69.55.225.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 700B543D45 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 19:17:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nik@freebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.0.149] (i-83-67-27-141.freedom2surf.net [83.67.27.141]) by jc.ngo.org.uk (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k8RJHKb7054521; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 12:17:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <451ACE41.4010707@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 20:17:21 +0100 From: Nik Clayton User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Hernandez References: <365C021D-9E09-4306-9CD9-B1D08C50A9F7@techally.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: ** (2.467) DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 69.55.225.33 Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: bsdnews.com aka daemonnews.org status? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 19:17:22 -0000 Michael Hernandez wrote: > I forwarded Roger's mail to Mikel King, he's a colleague of mine and > happens to be Senior Editor @ Daemon News. He isn't subscribed to > >> From: Mikel King >> >> Gentlemen, >> >> Chris has placed a note on one of our mirror servers @ >> http://www2.daemonnews.org and I am working in what little spare time >> I have to establish another mirror. At any rate, if some one would >> like to alert the community of our situation it would probably be very >> helpful in drawing in a few resources. Coral? http://www.coralcdn.org/ N From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 27 19:26:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F372816A4F0 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 19:26:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reed@reedmedia.net) Received: from ca.pugetsoundtechnology.com (ca.pugetsoundtechnology.com [38.99.2.247]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A671443D5F for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 19:26:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reed@reedmedia.net) Received: from pool-71-123-204-147.dllstx.fios.verizon.net ([71.123.204.147] helo=reedmedia.net) by ca.pugetsoundtechnology.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.54) id 1GSf2q-0004mY-Gp for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 12:26:16 -0700 Received: from reed@reedmedia.net by reedmedia.net with local (mailout 0.17) id 17212-1159385180; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:26:21 -0500 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:26:20 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jeremy C. Reed" To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <451ACE41.4010707@freebsd.org> Message-ID: References: <365C021D-9E09-4306-9CD9-B1D08C50A9F7@techally.com> <451ACE41.4010707@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Fwd: bsdnews.com aka daemonnews.org status? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 19:26:49 -0000 > Coral? > > http://www.coralcdn.org/ It will work for static news webpages, but coral won't work for logging in or handling forums -- which is one of the main features of bsdnews.com. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 27 21:05:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDE6316A407 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 21:05:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samuraiblog@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B06F043D8A for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 21:05:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from samuraiblog@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so88095uge for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:05:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=k/yFkbYUb2vEuSdFLaTAn019uIby2W2jREo3icdDp85aHGMh+aL7nIcKPvUmWULU9BWFEhrLJY14oObtBTH23j3ED4gy0S6C7Sr/mUlyg+aetq34iy93UOAQhsPP/xVHGQgaK043KGJq1YRNtVPHwMCoJfbtV3sG5lVxYzLRzRc= Received: by 10.67.101.8 with SMTP id d8mr986644ugm; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:05:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.88.8 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:05:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <219837f70609271405u691f1358oca58de7cc5020bb0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:05:34 -0700 From: "Sam Sutch" To: "Marc Ramirez" In-Reply-To: <451A0840.5090905@bluecirclesoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <451A0840.5090905@bluecirclesoft.com> Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: i had a dream last night... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 21:05:49 -0000 Any more background info (IE: environmental concerns, political background)? -Sam On 9/26/06, Marc Ramirez wrote: > Jesus Monroy Jr. was calling me in the middle of the night. He had a > desperate message for John S. Dyson, and I had to deliver it. The > message: Al Gore was coming to kick John's ass. > > What does it mean? > > Marc. > > -- > Marc Ramirez > Blue Circle Software Corporation > 513-382-1270 (direct) > http://www.bluecirclesoft.com > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 27 21:39:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E878116A4ED for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 21:39:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rebelbitch1970@yahoo.com) Received: from web38305.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web38305.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.125.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3F92443D53 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 21:37:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rebelbitch1970@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 7509 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Sep 2006 21:37:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Uxi3AYhgob8XaFKetpQ9m/ySeNBLHSJR+WIEgd/r5PQ9pI4SLkXzbzKi0f8zbIgPDNZapf2V4nst295IzgF0VPBd22zgRcd8LOsd2wluL09R3ls8o2VqB8RXL1sOv5MWECPu6XCU4zWcZs0Ivs7Hp2lDqN2COquPrZLwa01vB3A= ; Message-ID: <20060927213712.7507.qmail@web38305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [70.177.24.85] by web38305.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:37:12 PDT Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:37:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Sabrina Davis To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: thanks for the welcome X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 21:39:06 -0000 can you get me hooked up with "XM Entertainment" sexually explicit --------------------------------- All-new Yahoo! 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From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 28 01:19:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E35216A416 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:19:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc.ramirez@bluecirclesoft.com) Received: from mail.globalsuite.net (mail.globalsuite.net [69.46.103.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D3F3043D53 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:19:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc.ramirez@bluecirclesoft.com) Received: from [172.17.188.185] (unknown [65.244.228.227]) by mail.globalsuite.net (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 4EC021F9; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 19:19:35 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <451B2323.8090600@bluecirclesoft.com> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 21:19:31 -0400 From: Marc Ramirez User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sam Sutch References: <451A0840.5090905@bluecirclesoft.com> <219837f70609271405u691f1358oca58de7cc5020bb0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <219837f70609271405u691f1358oca58de7cc5020bb0@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: i had a dream last night... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:19:39 -0000 Sam Sutch wrote: > Any more background info (IE: environmental concerns, political > background)? http://groups.google.com/groups/search?hl=en&q=%22john+s.+dyson%22+iquest+al+gore&qt_s=Search I don't know for sure if it's VM John Dyson, but I wouldn't want to get him and Al Jr. at the same dinner table. :) Plus, I've heard that Gore thinks pagefiles are environmentally unsound. ("A Doubly Indirect Truth") As you can see, I have too much time on my hands. I'm stuck away from home in San Diego teaching a SQL class, and I started reminiscing about the days of FreeBSD gone by... Marc. > > -Sam > > On 9/26/06, Marc Ramirez wrote: >> Jesus Monroy Jr. was calling me in the middle of the night. He had a >> desperate message for John S. Dyson, and I had to deliver it. The >> message: Al Gore was coming to kick John's ass. >> >> What does it mean? >> >> Marc. >> >> -- >> Marc Ramirez >> Blue Circle Software Corporation >> 513-382-1270 (direct) >> http://www.bluecirclesoft.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > -- Marc Ramirez Blue Circle Software Corporation 513-382-1270 (direct) http://www.bluecirclesoft.com From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 28 02:04:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D15916A407 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 02:04:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamlsd@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.237]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8889643D4C for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 02:04:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adamlsd@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so407978wxd for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 19:04:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer:sender; b=Nz92HLICMFlFm2PPnaOWgnMvpCN27hVs1kcJxw7m3lNW+YPd4NHxt3uaJbKRL0wpBbLqGp/R8U2p9cTl6R6OrZsKhDg/dFSevKn9HkLv0jePKjqXEHHVI22jKLdfznHs46Y2n4g/JNmha106eMwZ83TF6upCvXAeLqjJlknbMUw= Received: by 10.70.80.14 with SMTP id d14mr1861165wxb; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 19:04:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?130.245.126.51? ( [130.245.126.51]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i40sm1904835wxd.2006.09.27.19.04.55; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 19:04:55 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <451A5C6F.5040001@sbcglobal.net> References: <20060920104047.GA49442@splork.wirewater.yow> <20060920185542.GE1075@zaphod.nitro.dk> <45125885.2060209@401.cx> <451A5C6F.5040001@sbcglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <5dc6f198bfa0075cef0c190d90351273@FreeBSD.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Adam Martin Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 22:04:53 -0400 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Sender: Adam Martin Subject: Re: Party X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 02:04:57 -0000 On 2006 Sep 27 , at 07:11, Robert C Wittig wrote: > Adam Martin wrote: >> I think it's just that I pine for better days. Just 5 years ago, >> this behaviour was restricted mostly to Windoze systems. 5 years >> before that, the notion of net-wide "evil traffic" as a constant >> background noise was far fetched. And just 5 years before that, 15 >> years ago, the notion of loads of background evil traffic was, as far >> as I recall, appalling. >> After the whole of that spam episode, combined with several >> spikes in local ssh-bruteforce attempts... I just felt despondent. I >> still do. It seems like the whole 'net has gone to hell in a >> handbasket. So as I said, I pine for better days. But I think I am >> a curmudgeon these days :-) > > Cheer up... you, being an OpenBSD user, are at the top of the food > chain, and much less likely to become food for a bigger fish, than > most other computer users. I use OpenBSD, and FreeBSD mostly. (I've got a few MacOS X boxes, which I hack around with, and some times it's NetBSD, and when I have to use it, Linux... and shudder: Windoze.) I've been using computers, and UNIX for most of my life (since I was about 8, daddy would let me use his SunOS workstation, and telnet around to various machines in his office) and now at 24, things just seem so much different than when I grew up. Every time the network-evil ratio spikes higher, I just lament about how things used to be. Newbies, and innane questions I can stand. It's mostly just the evil packets routed along. I don't fear hijacks. I just loathe my precious bandwidth resources, and time, spent on dealing with this garbage. Which seems to translate into more garbage, in my inbox. It seems after every ssh-bruteforce wave, there's a spike in spam distribution. So the problem just keeps showing up. To me, it seems like there's hordes of vandals running about torching the town, and generally causing havoc. I guess I just fear a dark future for the 'net, where this will just get worse. Of course, it seems I always address this issue late at night, after hours of writing code, and then dealing with the day's security work. So maybe I should discuss it at a more cheerful time? :-) > The legislators and the people that legislators love are in all > likelihood *not* running BSD, or even Linux, and will therefore > probably become victims of phishing, identity theft, having their > computers hijacked. > > This will bring the reality of the 'State if the Internet' home to > those legislators in a very personal way, inciting them to take > legislative action in their various countries (except for Nigeria, > where the legislators are involved in running the scams). This is also what I fear, beyond just pining for the "good old days." Instead of a "spamargeddon" a "lawyerclysm" of sorts, where we'll sacrifice our freedom, to feel safe from cyber-attacks. > When the automobile was first invented, there were no 'Rules of the > Road'. This was Ok for a while, because cars required a techie, just > to operate them. But as cars became simpler to operate, and more > popular, and the roads became clogged with maniacs, killing people > with their autos, rules had to be set down, to regulate the New > Technology. > > I suspect that something similar is happening with the Internet. > > Ten years from now, we might be complaining about over-regulation. Eh, I already do complain, to a degree. But by the time the over-regulation hits, hopefully, some geeks (possibly including me,) will have an underground network using tcp/ip protocols, but over directed radio links or something. Just avoiding the clutter of the soon-to-be "now-dead" internet. Okay, enough lamenting. I think it's time to do productive work. :-) Regards, -- Adam David Alan Martin From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 28 02:26:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 716B716A40F for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 02:26:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from soralx@cydem.org) Received: from pd3mo3so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E3C243D46 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 02:26:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from soralx@cydem.org) Received: from pd4mr4so.prod.shaw.ca (pd4mr4so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.215]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J6A008KJ6RR8K20@l-daemon> for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 20:26:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml5so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.149]) by pd4mr4so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J6A001RJ6RRXUB0@pd4mr4so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 20:26:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from soralx.cydem.org ([24.87.27.3]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J6A0042Z6RQJ0F0@l-daemon> for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 20:26:14 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 19:26:13 -0700 From: soralx@cydem.org In-reply-to: <5dc6f198bfa0075cef0c190d90351273@FreeBSD.org> To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Message-id: <200609271926.14172.soralx@cydem.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <20060920104047.GA49442@splork.wirewater.yow> <451A5C6F.5040001@sbcglobal.net> <5dc6f198bfa0075cef0c190d90351273@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 Subject: Re: Party X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 02:26:49 -0000 > garbage, in my inbox. It seems after every ssh-bruteforce wave, > there's a spike in spam distribution. So the problem just keeps > showing up. To me, it seems like there's hordes of vandals running > about torching the town, and generally causing havoc. I guess I just What can be done to keep the logs neat (i.e., free from the ssh-bruteforce garbage) is this: for a given number of login failures (e.g., 8), add an ipfw rule that blocks all traffic from the offending IP#. Of course, this has got to be automatized (script?). I used to add the rules manually, as an experiment, and I found that attacks from one IP# do repeat, though very seldom (the period may be as long as a few months). The rule list will grows without bounds :( I figure, this reduces the amount of recieved spam slightly too. Yes, not a novel idea (to phrase it soflty); yet, I actually tested it, found that there's net gain from doing that (as small as it may be), and no noticeable bad consequences. [SorAlx] ridin' VN1500-B2 From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 28 13:39:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 389EE16A4CA for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:39:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [63.240.77.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C40D43DA6 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:39:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from gimpy (c-24-118-173-219.hsd1.mn.comcast.net[24.118.173.219]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with ESMTP id <200609281323130130047v2ge>; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:23:23 +0000 From: Josh Paetzel To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 08:21:41 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <20060920104047.GA49442@splork.wirewater.yow> <5dc6f198bfa0075cef0c190d90351273@FreeBSD.org> <200609271926.14172.soralx@cydem.org> In-Reply-To: <200609271926.14172.soralx@cydem.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609280821.41963.josh@tcbug.org> Cc: Subject: Re: Party X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:39:18 -0000 On Thursday 28 September 2006 02:26, soralx@cydem.org wrote: > > garbage, in my inbox. It seems after every ssh-bruteforce wave, > > there's a spike in spam distribution. So the problem just keeps > > showing up. To me, it seems like there's hordes of vandals > > running about torching the town, and generally causing havoc. I > > guess I just > > What can be done to keep the logs neat (i.e., free from the > ssh-bruteforce garbage) is this: for a given number of login > failures (e.g., 8), add an ipfw rule that blocks all traffic from > the offending IP#. Of course, this has got to be automatized > (script?). I used to add the rules manually, as an experiment, and > I found that attacks from one IP# do repeat, though very seldom > (the period may be as long as a few months). The rule list will > grows without bounds :( I figure, this reduces the amount of > recieved spam slightly too. > Yes, not a novel idea (to phrase it soflty); yet, I actually tested > it, found that there's net gain from doing that (as small as it may > be), and no noticeable bad consequences. > > [SorAlx] ridin' VN1500-B2 Between AllowUsers and disabling password authentication via ssh it sort of amuses me to see people try to get in on the few machines that I have to allow global ssh access to. Perhaps I have a sick sense of humor. I have also noticed that the IPs are different every day, although I once had over 1000 attempts a day for 2 weeks straight from the same IP. I sure wish I could've sent that one a smug taunting email. There are tons of scripts that can add IPs to firewalls after x number of attemps floating around, I could probably dodge a lot of it by running ssh on an alternate port, but then I'd have to find something besides reading the logs to amuse myself with. Spam on the other hand is a more vexing problem. Sure, I apply the usual band-aids, SA, RBLs, configuring Postfix to not play nicely with non RFC compliant clients but for all that I'm treating symptoms instead of the disease. The only viable solution to the problem of spam that I can see (and I'm positive that it would never happen) is an international agency tasked to track down and punish the people responsible for spam. They'd have to have the power to go after these people no matter what country they were hiding in, the resources to make a dent in the problem, and the cooperation of a significant percentage of mail admins on the net. Perhaps a slightly more likely scenario would be to make it a crime to run an open relay? I'd also like to see ISPs take measures to protect the net from trojaned windows machines on high-speed DSL and cable connections....perhaps allowing access only to their mailservers? Anyways, enough pipe dreams, I have to get back to reading my logs. -- Thanks, Josh Paetzel From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 28 14:56:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDEA216A40F for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 14:56:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14D4C43D79 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 14:56:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k8SEuL4R005556; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 10:56:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 10:19:42 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <20060920104047.GA49442@splork.wirewater.yow> <5dc6f198bfa0075cef0c190d90351273@FreeBSD.org> <200609271926.14172.soralx@cydem.org> In-Reply-To: <200609271926.14172.soralx@cydem.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609281019.42614.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 28 Sep 2006 10:56:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.3/1949/Thu Sep 28 09:03:14 2006 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: Subject: Re: Party X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 14:56:33 -0000 On Wednesday 27 September 2006 22:26, soralx@cydem.org wrote: > > > garbage, in my inbox. It seems after every ssh-bruteforce wave, > > there's a spike in spam distribution. So the problem just keeps > > showing up. To me, it seems like there's hordes of vandals running > > about torching the town, and generally causing havoc. I guess I just > > What can be done to keep the logs neat (i.e., free from the ssh-bruteforce > garbage) is this: for a given number of login failures (e.g., 8), add an > ipfw rule that blocks all traffic from the offending IP#. Of course, this > has got to be automatized (script?). I used to add the rules manually, as > an experiment, and I found that attacks from one IP# do repeat, though > very seldom (the period may be as long as a few months). The rule list > will grows without bounds :( I figure, this reduces the amount of recieved > spam slightly too. > Yes, not a novel idea (to phrase it soflty); yet, I actually tested it, > found that there's net gain from doing that (as small as it may be), > and no noticeable bad consequences. ports/security/bruteblock (there's another one for pf, this one is for ipfw) -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 28 15:16:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1175716A412; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 15:16:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thierry@pompo.net) Received: from graf.pompo.net (graf.pompo.net [81.56.186.139]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D6543D7B; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 15:16:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thierry@pompo.net) Received: by graf.pompo.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 52C0111447; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 17:14:29 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 17:14:29 +0200 From: Thierry Thomas To: John Baldwin Message-ID: <20060928151429.GP1654@graf.pompo.net> Mail-Followup-To: John Baldwin , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org References: <20060920104047.GA49442@splork.wirewater.yow> <5dc6f198bfa0075cef0c190d90351273@FreeBSD.org> <200609271926.14172.soralx@cydem.org> <200609281019.42614.jhb@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <200609281019.42614.jhb@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE i386 Organization: Kabbale Eros X-Face: (hRbQnK~Pt7$ct`!fupO(`y_WL4^-Iwn4@ly-.,[4xC4xc; y=\ipKMNm<1J>lv@PP~7Z<.t KjAnXLs: X-PGP: 0xC71405A2 Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Party X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 15:16:11 -0000 Le Jeu 28 sep 06 à 16:19:42 +0200, John Baldwin écrivait : > ports/security/bruteblock (there's another one for pf, this one is for ipfw) No need for an external tool with pf. Just add this kind of rule: table persist block in quick from pass in quick on $ext_if inet proto tcp from any to ($ext_if) \ port 22 flags S/SA keep state \ ( max-src-conn-rate 2/10, overload flush global) [Tip found at (a french site)] -- Th. Thomas. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 28 15:17:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA6B16A51A for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 15:17:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wittig.robert@sbcglobal.net) Received: from smtp108.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp108.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.229.97]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7DC4443D8E for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 15:17:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wittig.robert@sbcglobal.net) Received: (qmail 74917 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2006 15:17:15 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=I2zfL8DPQDCH3K3gB48RE96TXYpd4e/JW6S8g18VcP41ZenwP9W3ZOuR9PZo5OOiGOjUp5ydz9FFOB+BqhtUWoxTX3+n7hMZZ4z6wyq4dGcsqfGm4sb6qBKkMY4Avr3jwZXxw3BlqpnM4RW+F2GTaUkHycLg8NA/wTf2sy0cTW4= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.3?) (wittig.robert@sbcglobal.net@70.142.248.62 with plain) by smtp108.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Sep 2006 15:17:15 -0000 Message-ID: <451BE7CA.5030301@sbcglobal.net> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 10:18:34 -0500 From: Robert C Wittig User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org References: <20060920104047.GA49442@splork.wirewater.yow> <5dc6f198bfa0075cef0c190d90351273@FreeBSD.org> <200609271926.14172.soralx@cydem.org> <200609280821.41963.josh@tcbug.org> In-Reply-To: <200609280821.41963.josh@tcbug.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Party X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 15:17:35 -0000 Josh Paetzel wrote: > I could probably dodge a lot of it by running ssh on an alternate > port, but then I'd have to find something besides reading the logs to > amuse myself with. ...more amusing than reading logs? Impossible! > The only viable solution to the problem of spam that I can see (and > I'm positive that it would never happen) is an international agency > tasked to track down and punish the people responsible for spam. > They'd have to have the power to go after these people no matter what > country they were hiding in, the resources to make a dent in the > problem, and the cooperation of a significant percentage of mail > admins on the net. > I came up with an alternative strategy a while back, that might render spam a dead end... what would happen if terrorists used spam to sell Viagra or something over the Internet, that turned out to actually be cyanide, or better yet... smallpox? "Spam depends on one thing, in order to succeed... people have to read it, and reply to it, and get out their credit cards, and click on the links in the spam, and order the Penis Pillz, and the glass dildos, and the pornography, and the other demented stuff, that spam promises. Once spam turns into a homicidal enterprise, there probably will not be enough suckers left, to permit spam any viability." http://robertwittig.net/2005/murder_by_spam.html > Perhaps a slightly more likely scenario would be to make it a crime to > run an open relay? I'd also like to see ISPs take measures to > protect the net from trojaned windows machines on high-speed DSL and > cable connections....perhaps allowing access only to their > mailservers? > > Anyways, enough pipe dreams, I have to get back to reading my logs. > The sendmail logs are good reading to. -- -wittig http://www.robertwittig.com/ . http://robertwittig.net/ From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 28 16:03:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB1116A403 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:03:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jan.grant@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4060243D4C for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:03:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jan.grant@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.16.62]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GSyMP-0000AT-JZ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 17:03:48 +0100 Received: from cse-jg.cse.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.12.37]:57985) by mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.50) id 1GSyMG-0005Ba-HE; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 17:03:36 +0100 Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 17:03:27 +0100 (BST) From: Jan Grant X-X-Sender: cmjg@tribble.ilrt.bris.ac.uk To: Josh Paetzel In-Reply-To: <200609280821.41963.josh@tcbug.org> Message-ID: <20060928170034.E38866@tribble.ilrt.bris.ac.uk> References: <20060920104047.GA49442@splork.wirewater.yow> <5dc6f198bfa0075cef0c190d90351273@FreeBSD.org> <200609271926.14172.soralx@cydem.org> <200609280821.41963.josh@tcbug.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spamassassin: mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Level: / X-Spam-Score: -1.2 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Party X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:03:50 -0000 On Thu, 28 Sep 2006, Josh Paetzel wrote: > The only viable solution to the problem of spam that I can see (and > I'm positive that it would never happen) is an international agency > tasked to track down and punish the people responsible for spam. > They'd have to have the power to go after these people no matter what > country they were hiding in, the resources to make a dent in the > problem, and the cooperation of a significant percentage of mail > admins on the net. Steven Seagal is... SPAMCOP. > Perhaps a slightly more likely scenario would be to make it a crime to > run an open relay? I'd also like to see ISPs take measures to > protect the net from trojaned windows machines on high-speed DSL and > cable connections....perhaps allowing access only to their > mailservers? Wrongly imprisoned for running a relay he never installed. Now he's back. And he wants revenge. > Anyways, enough pipe dreams, I have to get back to reading my logs. Say EHLO to vengeance! etc. -- jan grant, ISYS, University of Bristol. http://www.bris.ac.uk/ Tel +44 (0)117 3317661 http://ioctl.org/jan/ OORDBMSs make me feel old; I remember when this was all fields. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 28 16:46:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ABA616A416 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:46:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Received: from ketralnis.com (melchoir.ketralnis.com [68.183.67.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F02043D4C for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:46:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Received: from [192.168.1.71] (pix.xythos.com [64.154.218.194]) (authenticated bits=0) by ketralnis.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k8SGk2D7065292 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 09:46:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <200609271926.14172.soralx@cydem.org> References: <20060920104047.GA49442@splork.wirewater.yow> <451A5C6F.5040001@sbcglobal.net> <5dc6f198bfa0075cef0c190d90351273@FreeBSD.org> <200609271926.14172.soralx@cydem.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <25347309-F852-4E2D-8819-0B05E610E1F0@ketralnis.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David King Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 09:45:46 -0700 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Subject: Re: Party X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:46:05 -0000 > What can be done to keep the logs neat (i.e., free from the ssh- > bruteforce > garbage) is this: for a given number of login failures (e.g., 8), > add an > ipfw rule that blocks all traffic from the offending IP#. Of > course, this > has got to be automatized (script?). I find security/sshit works well for this, it reads a tail pipe out of syslog and add ipfw rules (and can time them out) > I used to add the rules manually, as > an experiment, and I found that attacks from one IP# do repeat, though > very seldom (the period may be as long as a few months). The rule list > will grows without bounds :( I figure, this reduces the amount of > recieved > spam slightly too. > Yes, not a novel idea (to phrase it soflty); yet, I actually tested > it, > found that there's net gain from doing that (as small as it may be), > and no noticeable bad consequences. > > [SorAlx] ridin' VN1500-B2 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- David King Computer Programmer Ketralnis Systems From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 28 18:44:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 105FE16A51F; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 18:44:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 114E243D45; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 18:44:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k8SIiQTl006889; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 14:44:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: Thierry Thomas Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 14:23:51 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <20060920104047.GA49442@splork.wirewater.yow> <200609281019.42614.jhb@freebsd.org> <20060928151429.GP1654@graf.pompo.net> In-Reply-To: <20060928151429.GP1654@graf.pompo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609281423.52065.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 28 Sep 2006 14:44:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.3/1950/Thu Sep 28 10:11:54 2006 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Party X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 18:44:38 -0000 On Thursday 28 September 2006 11:14, Thierry Thomas wrote: > Le Jeu 28 sep 06 =E0 16:19:42 +0200, John Baldwin > =E9crivait=A0: >=20 > > ports/security/bruteblock (there's another one for pf, this one is for= =20 ipfw) >=20 > No need for an external tool with pf. Just add this kind of rule: >=20 > table persist > block in quick from > pass in quick on $ext_if inet proto tcp from any to ($ext_if) \ > port 22 flags S/SA keep state \ > ( max-src-conn-rate 2/10, overload flush global) Depends. I only want to block bad connections. I don't want to lock mysel= f=20 out if I happen to open too many ssh session terminals at work. :) =2D-=20 John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 29 05:28:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E00016A415 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2006 05:28:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jakob@grimstveit.no) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B1643D49 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2006 05:28:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jakob@grimstveit.no) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so821932wxd for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 22:28:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.67.4 with SMTP id p4mr1220349wxa; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 11:55:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.45.5 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 11:55:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <40a50a8c0609271155g726b54ebh54cbcf2f32f46eec@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 20:55:22 +0200 From: "Jakob Breivik Grimstveit" To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <451A8CA2.8090309@401.cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <451A8CA2.8090309@401.cx> Subject: Re: bsdnews.com aka daemonnews.org status? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 05:28:38 -0000 On 9/27/06, Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg wrote: > Does anyone know what has happened to bsdnews.com aka daemonnews.org? > The latest week or so the website has been unreachable. 15. Sept Chris Coleman wrote on daemonnews.org: "As you may have noticed, we have been down for a while. Our primary server has been having serious problems. We are actively working on solutions, but our resources are very limited, especially our time. Volunteers, donations, and praise are appreciated as always." Perhaps they stumbled across a big b0rk? -- Jakob Breivik Grimstveit - http://grimstveit.no/jakob - +47 48298152