From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 24 17:42:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8AC616A403 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2006 17:42:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwanrow@centurytel.net) Received: from neville-out.centurytel.net (neville-out.centurytel.net [209.142.136.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C91D813C47E for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2006 17:42:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwanrow@centurytel.net) Received: from msa1-gh.centurytel.net (msa1-gh.centurytel.net [209.206.160.251]) by neville-out.centurytel.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38F0B15FEE4 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2006 11:13:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from n9p7n7 (chwlwacoro1.chnywacoro1.centurytel.net [209.206.169.129] (may be forged)) by msa1-gh.centurytel.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id kBOHDU3J029041 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2006 11:13:31 -0600 Message-ID: <000801c7277f$767a39c0$81a9ced1@n9p7n7> From: "wanrow" To: Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 09:17:57 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 18:27:45 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: looking for joe X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 17:42:03 -0000 dose anyone know the whereabouts of joe reed?? if so send him or me a = email thanks =20 rick From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 25 03:51:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2086616A40F for ; Mon, 25 Dec 2006 03:51:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saltmiser@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC8F13C47E for ; Mon, 25 Dec 2006 03:51:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saltmiser@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id f31so2002354pyh for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2006 19:51:29 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ugIh6wyHYiwVdBRJyEWBHgJOFV4UQhbRQVPP9VcGB2KdsWuDRTMGKFeCoc9SMVbm0e0lDc8cNDZhy/K+BYfifyXCwUEX6gt5fq5rQJfp//VhC5fvEU2gtGeCPlpJ9GHcZM5SMik0hbDS7nyLVMbMlS5neFr8bK5cbPUDu99TsOk= Received: by 10.35.101.1 with SMTP id d1mr22123365pym.1167017036598; Sun, 24 Dec 2006 19:23:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.108.1 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Dec 2006 19:23:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <37f72b1f0612241923h5c92e50kdff07783434efbbd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 22:23:56 -0500 From: "Jim Capozzoli" To: chat@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Gmail idea X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 03:51:30 -0000 I know this isn't related to FreeBSD at all, but I wanted to see what other people thought about this. What if google set up a mechanism where emails are shared between user accounts? Like, suppose this email is submitted to chat@freebsd.org, right, and the gmail mail server sees who is all getting mail from chat@freebsd.org. Then, it has only one copy of the message on the server, and points everybody's account who is supposed to have this message to that one copy on the server. Despite it seems like they have unlimited space this could probably seem useful to them anyway. :-P Is this a good idea or am I just insane? Btw I can't find the spot in google's support area to submit my idea so that's half the reason I sent it here incase anybody who works at google also happens to be subscribed to chat@. xD -- Jim Capozzoli From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 25 04:25:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A024116A412 for ; Mon, 25 Dec 2006 04:25:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deeptech71@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D18413C470 for ; Mon, 25 Dec 2006 04:25:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deeptech71@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2953820uge for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2006 20:25:13 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SWEUKWPsMXGWuY7R6dS/rubol7Bc1PKHGtC+w2D8ver3+aQPNubo/oPEvQ362ccdE+lgRQqrAY8rsHic9QG9knrGLXXs0Mod9z18OrbY8ym9AYaoLuPBWXQFDgQ9blAMTDkp6OYO9Z+AIohfTE7Q6jaB6OOP+r9WCSt42FaSfDw= Received: by 10.66.242.20 with SMTP id p20mr15617144ugh.1167019262143; Sun, 24 Dec 2006 20:01:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.123.111? ( [84.0.105.48]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id x37sm16334534ugc.2006.12.24.20.01.01; Sun, 24 Dec 2006 20:01:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <458F4D75.8020703@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 05:03:01 +0100 From: deeptech71@gmail.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Capozzoli References: <37f72b1f0612241923h5c92e50kdff07783434efbbd@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <37f72b1f0612241923h5c92e50kdff07783434efbbd@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gmail idea X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 04:25:14 -0000 Jim Capozzoli wrote: > I know this isn't related to FreeBSD at all, but I wanted to see what > other people thought about this. What if google set up a mechanism > where emails are shared between user accounts? Like, suppose this > email is submitted to chat@freebsd.org, right, and the gmail mail > server sees who is all getting mail from chat@freebsd.org. Then, it > has only one copy of the message on the server, and points everybody's > account who is supposed to have this message to that one copy on the > server. Despite it seems like they have unlimited space this could > probably seem useful to them anyway. :-P > > Is this a good idea or am I just insane? Btw I can't find the spot in > google's support area to submit my idea so that's half the reason I > sent it here incase anybody who works at google also happens to be > subscribed to chat@. xD > It's a modern network with everything in it. That should already be implemented somehow. If not directly, then file compression should do the job. If google thinks he's the center of the world, OK, let us all register for 2GB and fill it with bulk. Man at this rate I wont buy new HDDs, I'll install my OS onto google and run it from there lol :] From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 25 10:29:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DD1D16A50E for ; Mon, 25 Dec 2006 10:29:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD0CA13C491 for ; Mon, 25 Dec 2006 10:29:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2980036uge for ; Mon, 25 Dec 2006 02:29:32 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=kegXJS0+Aj9B/PiZjL1QYnWKNNoVpPRjon2fzZ7SZTepAaF4+mjRn9WQsD112WovYMRIuooSs9JfZF4/JovxVP5wosZo01wqNtCqNSN1jo3U25qZfz/HYgJTvvMVW7FN7teTZAa6ASDvoQy9B/p5zvwPR+F2IQbuwCpp7a5BOzw= Received: by 10.78.180.18 with SMTP id c18mr1543065huf.1167040927341; Mon, 25 Dec 2006 02:02:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.167.16 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Dec 2006 02:02:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 13:02:07 +0300 From: "Andrew Pantyukhin" Sender: infofarmer@gmail.com To: "deeptech71@gmail.com" In-Reply-To: <458F4D75.8020703@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <37f72b1f0612241923h5c92e50kdff07783434efbbd@mail.gmail.com> <458F4D75.8020703@gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: d81dded4c722d799 Cc: chat@freebsd.org, Jim Capozzoli Subject: Re: Gmail idea X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 10:29:34 -0000 On 12/25/06, deeptech71@gmail.com wrote: > Jim Capozzoli wrote: > > I know this isn't related to FreeBSD at all, but I wanted to see what > > other people thought about this. What if google set up a mechanism > > where emails are shared between user accounts? Like, suppose this > > email is submitted to chat@freebsd.org, right, and the gmail mail > > server sees who is all getting mail from chat@freebsd.org. Then, it > > has only one copy of the message on the server, and points everybody's > > account who is supposed to have this message to that one copy on the > > server. Despite it seems like they have unlimited space this could > > probably seem useful to them anyway. :-P > > > > Is this a good idea or am I just insane? Btw I can't find the spot in > > google's support area to submit my idea so that's half the reason I > > sent it here incase anybody who works at google also happens to be > > subscribed to chat@. xD > > > > It's a modern network with everything in it. That should already be > implemented somehow. If not directly, then file compression should do > the job. Yes, I'm somehow sure they are already doing it. > If google thinks he's the center of the world, OK, let us all register > for 2GB and fill it with bulk. Man at this rate I wont buy new HDDs, > I'll install my OS onto google and run it from there lol :] They block user accounts for that. You can only use gmail for average email-related workflows, which imply 90% of easily-compressible data. They have plenty of space to store that. http://glinden.blogspot.com/2006/06/four-petabytes-in-memory.html From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 25 12:30:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D78E16A403 for ; Mon, 25 Dec 2006 12:30:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E02B13C496 for ; Mon, 25 Dec 2006 12:30:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id kBPCIQJd009943; Mon, 25 Dec 2006 12:18:26 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <458FC18D.2020301@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 12:18:21 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061223) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Capozzoli References: <37f72b1f0612241923h5c92e50kdff07783434efbbd@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <37f72b1f0612241923h5c92e50kdff07783434efbbd@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig94CD7BC43DEA75712D5FA785" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Mon, 25 Dec 2006 12:18:42 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.7/2376/Mon Dec 25 09:50:31 2006 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_POLICY_TESTING,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gmail idea X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 12:30:18 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig94CD7BC43DEA75712D5FA785 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jim Capozzoli wrote: > I know this isn't related to FreeBSD at all, but I wanted to see what > other people thought about this. What if google set up a mechanism > where emails are shared between user accounts? Like, suppose this > email is submitted to chat@freebsd.org, right, and the gmail mail > server sees who is all getting mail from chat@freebsd.org. Then, it > has only one copy of the message on the server, and points everybody's > account who is supposed to have this message to that one copy on the > server. Despite it seems like they have unlimited space this could > probably seem useful to them anyway. :-P >=20 > Is this a good idea or am I just insane? Btw I can't find the spot in > google's support area to submit my idea so that's half the reason I > sent it here incase anybody who works at google also happens to be > subscribed to chat@. xD >=20 If you set up your own server with Cyrus IMAPd (possibly others) this is standard functionality -- you can easily create a shared namespace for mailboxes or make news groups appear via IMAP. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig94CD7BC43DEA75712D5FA785 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFj8GS8Mjk52CukIwRCO1WAJ4mwd3+tDo7FnVCYpvPOrDIPopkjACdH9gW 0Fojflk/4G9+j1lDS9zSY3g= =9DSU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig94CD7BC43DEA75712D5FA785-- From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 25 15:38:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D584D16A403 for ; Mon, 25 Dec 2006 15:38:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42DA813C463 for ; Mon, 25 Dec 2006 15:38:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 12726 invoked by uid 0); 25 Dec 2006 15:11:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (216.186.148.249) by smtp8.knology.net with SMTP; 25 Dec 2006 15:11:42 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id 779E828422; Mon, 25 Dec 2006 09:11:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 09:11:42 -0600 From: David Kelly To: Jim Capozzoli Message-ID: <20061225151142.GE73555@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <37f72b1f0612241923h5c92e50kdff07783434efbbd@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <37f72b1f0612241923h5c92e50kdff07783434efbbd@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gmail idea X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 15:38:24 -0000 On Sun, Dec 24, 2006 at 10:23:56PM -0500, Jim Capozzoli wrote: > I know this isn't related to FreeBSD at all, but I wanted to see what > other people thought about this. What if google set up a mechanism > where emails are shared between user accounts? Like, suppose this > email is submitted to chat@freebsd.org, right, and the gmail mail > server sees who is all getting mail from chat@freebsd.org. Then, it > has only one copy of the message on the server, and points everybody's > account who is supposed to have this message to that one copy on the > server. Despite it seems like they have unlimited space this could > probably seem useful to them anyway. :-P > > Is this a good idea or am I just insane? Btw I can't find the spot in > google's support area to submit my idea so that's half the reason I > sent it here incase anybody who works at google also happens to be > subscribed to chat@. xD Sounds like usenet to me. Simply merge email with usenet in one application, insert an email to usenet gateway, and have exactly what you describe. Already exisits. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 25 19:51:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF5A16A403 for ; Mon, 25 Dec 2006 19:51:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from m21.unixathome.org (m21.unixathome.org [205.150.199.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1D5913C47C for ; Mon, 25 Dec 2006 19:51:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [205.150.199.217]) by m21.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68A95BF80; Mon, 25 Dec 2006 14:29:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from m21.unixathome.org ([205.150.199.217]) by localhost (m21.unixathome.org [205.150.199.217]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28540-02; Mon, 25 Dec 2006 14:29:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [74.104.199.163]) by m21.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D560BF55; Mon, 25 Dec 2006 14:29:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.55.0.99] (wocker.unixathome.org [10.55.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E623B8A2; Mon, 25 Dec 2006 14:29:11 -0500 (EST) From: "Dan Langille" To: deeptech71@gmail.com Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 14:29:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <458FE037.13188.2EB7BF7E@dan.langille.org> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <458F4D75.8020703@gmail.com> References: <37f72b1f0612241923h5c92e50kdff07783434efbbd@mail.gmail.com>, <458F4D75.8020703@gmail.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at unixathome.org Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gmail idea X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 19:51:02 -0000 On 25 Dec 2006 at 5:03, deeptech71@gmail.com wrote: > If google thinks he's the center of the world, OK, let us all register > for 2GB and fill it with bulk. Man at this rate I wont buy new HDDs, > I'll install my OS onto google and run it from there lol :] FWIW, I attended a talk at ShmooCon 2006 that discusses using tinyurl.com as a storage medium... I don't recall details... -- Dan Langille : Software Developer looking for work my resume: http://www.freebsddiary.org/dan_langille.php PGCon - The PostgreSQL Conference - http://www.pgcon.org/ From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 26 01:31:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DA2116A40F for ; Tue, 26 Dec 2006 01:31:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dacut@kanga.org) Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.192.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DDCA13C47E for ; Tue, 26 Dec 2006 01:31:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dacut@kanga.org) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (c-67-182-133-151.hsd1.wa.comcast.net[67.182.133.151]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <20061226012115m1300iphnce>; Tue, 26 Dec 2006 01:21:15 +0000 Message-ID: <4590790B.6040509@kanga.org> Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 17:21:15 -0800 From: David Cuthbert User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chat@freebsd.org References: <37f72b1f0612241923h5c92e50kdff07783434efbbd@mail.gmail.com> <20061225151142.GE73555@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> In-Reply-To: <20061225151142.GE73555@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Gmail idea X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 01:31:20 -0000 David Kelly wrote: > Sounds like usenet to me. Simply merge email with usenet in one > application, insert an email to usenet gateway, and have exactly what > you describe. Already exisits. Indeed. I am reading this thread in a newsreader on gmane.os.freebsd.chat. Visit www.gmane.org for the gory details. The downside is that posting back isn't quite as transparent -- FreeBSD lists reject submissions from GMane, so you have to remember to tweak your replies to go back via mail. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 28 16:38:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B52A516A40F for ; Thu, 28 Dec 2006 16:38:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A1313C47C for ; Thu, 28 Dec 2006 16:38:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (ufwdix@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id kBSG1cPS057092; Thu, 28 Dec 2006 17:01:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id kBSG1bMi057091; Thu, 28 Dec 2006 17:01:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 17:01:37 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200612281601.kBSG1bMi057091@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, jcw@highperformance.net In-Reply-To: <4586685C.1030909@highperformance.net> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-chat User-Agent: tin/1.8.2-20060425 ("Shillay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-STABLE (i386)) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 28 Dec 2006 17:01:43 +0100 (CET) Cc: Subject: Re: Static Link with Shared Object X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, jcw@highperformance.net List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 16:38:50 -0000 Jason C. Wells wrote: > Does linking to a shared object cause the new object file to be shared also? Yes. As soon as a single shared object is involved, the runtime linker comes into play. To produce a truely static binary -- if that's what you want --, you must use all static libraries (*.a, not *.so), and use the -static flag. Of course you can produce a dynamic executable with some libraries linked statically. For example, it might make sense to link against the shared libc, but with static kerberos libraries. > I am especially curious how the links to /usr/local are being found when > I haven't used -L/usr/local. ldconfig(8). The -L flags tell the compiler and (compile-time) linker ld(1) where to find the libraries. To actually find shared libraries at run-time, the runtime-linker rtld(1) uses the information stored by ldconfig(8). Please refer to the manual pages mentioned above for details. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing Dienstleistungen mit Schwerpunkt FreeBSD: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. I suggested holding a "Python Object Oriented Programming Seminar", but the acronym was unpopular. -- Joseph Strout