From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 24 04:31:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1265916A417 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 04:31:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nmadrid1@peoplepc.com) Received: from amos.mail.atl.earthlink.net (amos.mail.atl.earthlink.net [207.69.200.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A83D743D5A for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 04:31:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nmadrid1@peoplepc.com) Received: from 24-pool1.ras03.lax01.dial.cogentco.com ([206.148.196.24] helo=Madrid) by amos.mail.atl.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1GRLeC-0001td-00 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 00:31:20 -0400 Message-ID: <000501c6df93$5f382760$18c494ce@Madrid> From: "Norma" To: Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 21:39:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Cc: Subject: El Torito! !@#$% X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 04:31:24 -0000 Could you guys put a warning at the top of this page. "WARNING! The following bootable CD's will not boot on old CD bootable computers. Don't pull your hair out trying to figure out why. Your computer will continuously reboot trying to find the floppy image on the CD. A floppy image is no longer used on our CD's. New computers no longer look for the CD Image. We've decided to no longer include a CD image, to save a few pennies. You will have to do a floppy install. If you haven't got a floppy drive. Your dead in the water. Sorry." http://www.freebsd.org/where.html From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 24 04:46:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D48D16A415 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 04:46:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFC5843D58 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 04:46:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F06C95F64; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 00:46:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Pp-QeJyhVr53; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 00:46:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.251] (pool-68-161-96-195.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.96.195]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD70F5C7B; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 00:46:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <45160DB6.306@mac.com> Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 00:46:46 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Norma References: <000501c6df93$5f382760$18c494ce@Madrid> In-Reply-To: <000501c6df93$5f382760$18c494ce@Madrid> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: El Torito! !@#$% X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 04:46:48 -0000 Norma wrote: > Could you guys put a warning at the top of this page. [ ... ] > Your dead in the water. Sorry." Before we put big scary warnings there, can you try building out the hard drive on another machine, and then moving it into your problematic one? Giving us a dmesg or uname would be helpful. [ You might also try considering trying a NetBoot/PXE install, or blowing $15 on a floppy drive. Heck, they even make USB floppy drives nowadays. ] -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 24 07:07:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C6FA16A407 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 07:07:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F5D43D49 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 07:07:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k8O77MQb049325; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 09:07:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost.blackend.org [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.8/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k8O77Mse001051; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 09:07:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.8/8.13.3/Submit) id k8O77L4o001050; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 09:07:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 09:07:21 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Duane Whitty Message-ID: <20060924070721.GA961@gothic.blackend.org> Mail-Followup-To: Duane Whitty , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <20060905223444.GA33935@dwpc.dwlabs.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060905223444.GA33935@dwpc.dwlabs.ca> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: man pages and handbooks X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 07:07:32 -0000 On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 07:34:44PM -0300, Duane Whitty wrote: > I've been spending a lot of time recently reading how SMP works, kernel > threads, SA/KSE, callouts, the differences between SCHED_4BSD and SCHED_ULE, > locking, caches, etc. I've still got a lot to learn and a lot to actually > start trying to apply in code. > > I've often thought this might be easier if some of the great material > available in the man pages was perhaps streamlined into the evolving > FreeBSD Architecture Handbook. This is just my opinion of course and > those of you with more experience than me may have good reasons for > not doing so. > > Barring any objections from the community in general and the DOC > project comitters in particular I would like to volunteer to > start adding some material from the man pages into the > FreeBSD Architecture Handbook. My first targets would be integrating > the material on mutex(9), mtx_*(9), pthread_*(9), lock*(9), atomic_*(9), > sched_4bsd(4), and sched_ule(4) into the material already present in the > handbook. I would also like to try my hand at creating diagrams to illustrate > the data structures used in our kernel code. Obviously as I learn more > I will probably find more material which would be interesting to have > integrated as well. > [...] If you want to just merge/copy some manual pages parts in the arch-handbook then you miss the point since there's no gain in duplicating the information. For example if you want to talk about the ULE schedule we are not looking for a sched_ule(4) manual page copy but a documented text covering the features, how to use it or code with it, etc.; another example would be the USB devices, if your look at the current chapter, the text explain how the USB stack works (it's quite the case) but miss a part explaining how to write a simple USB (HID?) driver. To sum up, most of time, beside the outdated info, the book miss the detailed information on the layout/features of a subject and the application (driver, etc.) examples, i.e, what need a vanilla C coder to write/port something To FreeBSD. Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 24 07:19:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43AFC16A407; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 07:19:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chinsan@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F30DC43D46; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 07:19:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chinsan@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (chinsan@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k8O7JnA2021141; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 07:19:49 GMT (envelope-from chinsan@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from chinsan@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k8O7JnmR021137; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 07:19:49 GMT (envelope-from chinsan) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 07:19:49 GMT From: Chin-San Huang Message-Id: <200609240719.k8O7JnmR021137@freefall.freebsd.org> To: chinsan@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, chinsan@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/103530: [patch] Some config guidelines for X11 and flatpanel screens X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 07:19:50 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] Some config guidelines for X11 and flatpanel screens Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->chinsan Responsible-Changed-By: chinsan Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Sep 24 07:19:49 UTC 2006 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take it. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=103530 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 24 09:01:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3282416A403; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 09:01:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chinsan@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF7C43D53; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 09:01:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chinsan@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (chinsan@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k8O91U3X035635; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 09:01:30 GMT (envelope-from chinsan@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from chinsan@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k8O91UGn035631; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 09:01:30 GMT (envelope-from chinsan) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 09:01:30 GMT From: Chin-San Huang Message-Id: <200609240901.k8O91UGn035631@freefall.freebsd.org> To: chinsan@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, chinsan@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/72897: ERRATA and RELNOTES are missing warnings about sil0680 arrays X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 09:01:31 -0000 Synopsis: ERRATA and RELNOTES are missing warnings about sil0680 arrays Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->chinsan Responsible-Changed-By: chinsan Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Sep 24 09:01:30 UTC 2006 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take it. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=72897 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 24 13:45:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E656A16A403; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 13:45:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chinsan@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E93543D49; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 13:45:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chinsan@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (chinsan@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k8ODjBg0064138; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 13:45:11 GMT (envelope-from chinsan@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from chinsan@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k8ODjBla064134; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 13:45:11 GMT (envelope-from chinsan) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 13:45:11 GMT From: Chin-San Huang Message-Id: <200609241345.k8ODjBla064134@freefall.freebsd.org> To: chinsan@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, chinsan@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/89747: [PATCH] faq: s/kbd0/ukbd0/ when USB keyboard is connected only X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 13:45:13 -0000 Synopsis: [PATCH] faq: s/kbd0/ukbd0/ when USB keyboard is connected only Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->chinsan Responsible-Changed-By: chinsan Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Sep 24 13:45:10 UTC 2006 Responsible-Changed-Why: Eat. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=89747 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 24 14:44:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 848F516A403 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 14:44:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pas.ble@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BC33D43D45 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 14:44:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pas.ble@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 24 Sep 2006 14:44:21 -0000 Received: from dslb-084-057-057-146.pools.arcor-ip.net (EHLO voodoo5) [84.57.57.146] by mail.gmx.net (mp033) with SMTP; 24 Sep 2006 16:44:21 +0200 X-Authenticated: #6325383 From: "Pascal Bleyler" To: Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 16:46:02 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c6dfe8$286fcc60$0500a8c0@voodoo5> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Subject: Confusing documentation X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 14:44:23 -0000 Hi, i am a bit confused like the documentation on this site: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvs-tags.html because: ... The src tree uses tag names that start with RELENG_ tags. The ports and doc trees use tags whose names begin with RELEASE tags. ... and after this are the tags listed: RELENG_6_1_0_RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1 RELENG_6_0_0_RELEASE FreeBSD 6.0 ... IMHO the src tree tag names AND the ports and doc tree tag names begin with RELENG but the ports and doc tree names ENDS with RELEASE! Is this right? Can you fix this? Thanks in advice Pascal From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 24 17:42:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E3616A403; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 17:42:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from duane@dwlabs.ca) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DADBB43D45; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 17:42:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from duane@dwlabs.ca) Received: from ip01.eastlink.ca ([24.222.10.5]) by mta01.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0J6300DD6YKB5X51@mta01.eastlink.ca>; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 14:43:23 -0300 (ADT) Received: from blk-224-199-230.eastlink.ca (HELO [192.168.0.103]) ([24.224.199.230]) by ip01.eastlink.ca with ESMTP; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 14:42:31 -0300 Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 14:42:03 -0300 From: Duane Whitty In-reply-to: <20060924070721.GA961@gothic.blackend.org> To: Marc Fonvieille Message-id: <4516C36B.7030701@dwlabs.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAAHVeFkUNi2QB X-IronPort-AV: i="4.09,210,1157338800"; d="scan'208"; a="834404743:sNHT44562800" References: <20060905223444.GA33935@dwpc.dwlabs.ca> <20060924070721.GA961@gothic.blackend.org> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060617) Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: man pages and handbooks X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 17:42:35 -0000 Marc Fonvieille wrote: > On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 07:34:44PM -0300, Duane Whitty wrote: >> I've been spending a lot of time recently reading how SMP works, kernel >> threads, SA/KSE, callouts, the differences between SCHED_4BSD and SCHED_ULE, >> locking, caches, etc. I've still got a lot to learn and a lot to actually >> start trying to apply in code. >> >> I've often thought this might be easier if some of the great material >> available in the man pages was perhaps streamlined into the evolving >> FreeBSD Architecture Handbook. This is just my opinion of course and >> those of you with more experience than me may have good reasons for >> not doing so. >> >> Barring any objections from the community in general and the DOC >> project comitters in particular I would like to volunteer to >> start adding some material from the man pages into the >> FreeBSD Architecture Handbook. My first targets would be integrating >> the material on mutex(9), mtx_*(9), pthread_*(9), lock*(9), atomic_*(9), >> sched_4bsd(4), and sched_ule(4) into the material already present in the >> handbook. I would also like to try my hand at creating diagrams to illustrate >> the data structures used in our kernel code. Obviously as I learn more >> I will probably find more material which would be interesting to have >> integrated as well. >> > [...] Hi, First let me say thanks for your interest and feedback. Input from experienced people such as yourself is very, very appreciated. I'm CCing docs@ so that the other interested or potentially interested parties can stay involved. > > If you want to just merge/copy some manual pages parts in the > arch-handbook then you miss the point since there's no gain in > duplicating the information. For example if you want to talk about the > ULE schedule we are not looking for a sched_ule(4) manual page copy but > a documented text covering the features, how to use it or code with it, I agree. > etc.; another example would be the USB devices, if your look at the > current chapter, the text explain how the USB stack works (it's quite > the case) but miss a part explaining how to write a simple USB (HID?) > driver. I somewhat agree but I also don't believe that the Architecture Handbook is the best location for detailed tutorial information on how to develop for a specific subsystem; Just my opinion. Is that not be what the Developers' Handbook is for? [Not meant as a rhetorical question] To sum up, most of time, beside the outdated info, the book > miss the detailed information on the layout/features of a subject and > the application (driver, etc.) examples, i.e, what need a vanilla C > coder to write/port something To FreeBSD. > > Marc I guess my understanding of the FreeBSD Architecture Handbook is that it tries to answer the questions a) What does a particular subsystem do? b) How are the goals of this subsystem accomplished i.e., what are its data structures, what are its algorithms? c) Why does the subsystem use the data structures and algorithms that it does? What are the trade-offs with alternative methods and perhaps even the Handbook should discuss past methods which did not work and why. Best Regards, Duane Whitty From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 24 18:14:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 319D516A416; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 18:14:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from duane@dwlabs.ca) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E6EA43D45; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 18:14:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from duane@dwlabs.ca) Received: from ip02.eastlink.ca ([24.222.10.10]) by mta01.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0J6300FDKZW8RC61@mta01.eastlink.ca>; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 15:12:08 -0300 (ADT) Received: from blk-224-199-230.eastlink.ca (HELO [192.168.0.103]) ([24.224.199.230]) by ip02.eastlink.ca with ESMTP; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 15:14:29 -0300 Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 15:13:58 -0300 From: Duane Whitty In-reply-to: <4516C36B.7030701@dwlabs.ca> To: Marc Fonvieille Message-id: <4516CAE6.40601@dwlabs.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAAMBnFkUNi2QB X-IronPort-AV: i="4.09,210,1157338800"; d="scan'208"; a="853449520:sNHT46853964" References: <20060905223444.GA33935@dwpc.dwlabs.ca> <20060924070721.GA961@gothic.blackend.org> <4516C36B.7030701@dwlabs.ca> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060617) Cc: Paul Wilson , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Joel Dahl Subject: Re: man pages and handbooks X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 18:14:42 -0000 Duane Whitty wrote: > Marc Fonvieille wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 07:34:44PM -0300, Duane Whitty wrote: >>> I've been spending a lot of time recently reading how SMP works, kernel >>> threads, SA/KSE, callouts, the differences between SCHED_4BSD and >>> SCHED_ULE, >>> locking, caches, etc. I've still got a lot to learn and a lot to >>> actually >>> start trying to apply in code. >>> >>> I've often thought this might be easier if some of the great material >>> available in the man pages was perhaps streamlined into the evolving >>> FreeBSD Architecture Handbook. This is just my opinion of course and >>> those of you with more experience than me may have good reasons for >>> not doing so. >>> >>> Barring any objections from the community in general and the DOC >>> project comitters in particular I would like to volunteer to >>> start adding some material from the man pages into the >>> FreeBSD Architecture Handbook. My first targets would be integrating >>> the material on mutex(9), mtx_*(9), pthread_*(9), lock*(9), atomic_*(9), >>> sched_4bsd(4), and sched_ule(4) into the material already present in the >>> handbook. I would also like to try my hand at creating diagrams to >>> illustrate >>> the data structures used in our kernel code. Obviously as I learn more >>> I will probably find more material which would be interesting to have >>> integrated as well. >>> >> [...] > > Hi, > > First let me say thanks for your interest and feedback. > Input from experienced people such as yourself is very, > very appreciated. > > I'm CCing docs@ so that the other interested or potentially interested > parties can stay involved. > >> >> If you want to just merge/copy some manual pages parts in the >> arch-handbook then you miss the point since there's no gain in >> duplicating the information. For example if you want to talk about the >> ULE schedule we are not looking for a sched_ule(4) manual page copy but >> a documented text covering the features, how to use it or code with it, > > I agree. > >> etc.; another example would be the USB devices, if your look at the >> current chapter, the text explain how the USB stack works (it's quite >> the case) but miss a part explaining how to write a simple USB (HID?) >> driver. > > I somewhat agree but I also don't believe that the > Architecture Handbook is the best location for detailed > tutorial information on how to develop for a specific > subsystem; Just my opinion. Is that not be what the > Developers' Handbook is for? [Not meant as a rhetorical > question] > > To sum up, most of time, beside the outdated info, the book >> miss the detailed information on the layout/features of a subject and >> the application (driver, etc.) examples, i.e, what need a vanilla C >> coder to write/port something To FreeBSD. >> > > Marc > > > I guess my understanding of the FreeBSD Architecture > Handbook is that it tries to answer the questions > > a) What does a particular subsystem do? > > b) How are the goals of this subsystem accomplished > i.e., what are its data structures, what are its > algorithms? > > c) Why does the subsystem use the data structures and > algorithms that it does? What are the trade-offs with > alternative methods and perhaps even the Handbook should > discuss past methods which did not work and why. > May be the above should also include, in the same document, c.1) What doesn't work as well as we'd like it to in this subsystem? d) When and how should I use a particular subsystem e) Example code for using a particular subsystem f) Debugging methods specific to each subsystem Best Regards, Duane Whitty > Best Regards, > > Duane Whitty > From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 24 18:22:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEF4416A407 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 18:22:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7CDD43D4C for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 18:22:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k8OIMEvp058081; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 20:22:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost.blackend.org [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.8/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k8OIMEKf002847; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 20:22:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.8/8.13.3/Submit) id k8OIMEug002846; Sun, 24 Sep 2006 20:22:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 20:22:14 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Duane Whitty Message-ID: <20060924182214.GA2650@gothic.blackend.org> Mail-Followup-To: Duane Whitty , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <20060905223444.GA33935@dwpc.dwlabs.ca> <20060924070721.GA961@gothic.blackend.org> <4516C36B.7030701@dwlabs.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4516C36B.7030701@dwlabs.ca> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: man pages and handbooks X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 18:22:19 -0000 On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 02:42:03PM -0300, Duane Whitty wrote: [...] > > > > >If you want to just merge/copy some manual pages parts in the > >arch-handbook then you miss the point since there's no gain in > >duplicating the information. For example if you want to talk about the > >ULE schedule we are not looking for a sched_ule(4) manual page copy but > >a documented text covering the features, how to use it or code with it, > > I agree. > > >etc.; another example would be the USB devices, if your look at the > >current chapter, the text explain how the USB stack works (it's quite > >the case) but miss a part explaining how to write a simple USB (HID?) > >driver. > > I somewhat agree but I also don't believe that the > Architecture Handbook is the best location for detailed > tutorial information on how to develop for a specific > subsystem; Just my opinion. Is that not be what the > Developers' Handbook is for? [Not meant as a rhetorical > question] > [...] The Developers Handbook is for people who want to develop under FreeBSD, the Arch Handbook is for people who want to develop or understand FreeBSD internals. Just read, as example, http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/arch-handbook/devicedrivers.html etc. Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 25 11:06:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C0616A40F for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2006 11:06:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F41B43D80 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2006 11:06:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (linimon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k8PB6UwQ089617 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2006 11:06:30 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from linimon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k8PB6S9i089613 for DOC; Mon, 25 Sep 2006 11:06:29 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 11:06:29 GMT Message-Id: <200609251106.k8PB6S9i089613@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: linimon set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Cc: Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 11:06:48 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The problem is understood and a solution is being sought. f - feedback Further work requires additional information from the originator or the community - possibly confirmation of the effectiveness of a proposed solution. p - patched A patch has been committed, but some issues (MFC and / or confirmation from originator) are still open. r - repocopy The resolution of the problem report is dependent on a repocopy operation within the CVS repository which is awaiting completion. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on, due to lack of information or resources. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested -- or when fixing the problem is abandoned. Critical problems Serious problems S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o docs/27605 doc [patch] Cross-document references () s docs/35678 doc docproj Makefiles for web are broken for paths with sp o docs/60679 doc [patch] pthread(3): pthreads documentation does not de o docs/61605 doc [feature request] Improve documentation for i386 disk o docs/78154 doc [PATCH] Make en_US FreeBSD Handbook more compliant wit o docs/78357 doc getaddrinfo(3)'s AI_ADDRCONFIG not documented o docs/80843 doc [patch] psm(4): Suggested fix for psm0 / handle driver f docs/82296 doc ttys(5) man page misleads about use for non-getty proc o docs/84932 doc new document: printing with an Epson ALC-3000N on Free o docs/95262 doc Correction to handbook section 26.5.20 Port Redirectio o docs/95263 doc Correction to handbook section 26.5.21.3 FTP NAT Proxy o docs/95265 doc Correction to handbook section 26.5.16 IPNAT Rules o docs/98115 doc Missing parts after rendering handbook to RTF format o docs/98541 doc tun man page references obsolite ioctl o docs/100328 doc the first paragraph of config(8) is deeply misleading o docs/100803 doc the man page about ithread is expired. 16 problems total. Non-critical problems S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags in the sourc o docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) o docs/26286 doc *printf(3) etc should gain format string warnings a docs/30008 doc [patch] French softupdates document should be translat s docs/31109 doc [patch] replace gif images w/ png ones due to patent l s docs/33589 doc [patch] to doc.docbook.mk to post process .tex files. a docs/35011 doc There are no commands called "diskless" or "jail". o docs/35222 doc [patch] getmsg.cgi: mailing list archive URL regexp su o docs/35608 doc mt(1) page uses "setmark" without explanation. o docs/35609 doc mt(1) page needs explanation of "long erase". o docs/35612 doc ps(1) page "state" description doesn't mention "spread o docs/35943 doc at(1) config files are misplaced in /var/at/ o docs/35953 doc hosts.equiv(5) manual is confusing or wrong about host o docs/36432 doc Proposal for doc/share/mk: make folded books using psu o docs/36449 doc symlink(7) manual doesn't mention trailing slash, etc. o docs/38620 doc suggestion: minor rework of question in Committers Gui o docs/38982 doc [patch] developers-handbook/Jail fix o docs/39348 doc diskless(8): note that kenv fetch of hostname requires o docs/39530 doc access(2) man page has unnecessarily broad warning o docs/40423 doc Keyboard(4)'s definition of parameters to GETFKEY/SETF o docs/41089 doc pax(1) -B option does not mention interaction with -z o docs/41807 doc [patch] natd(8): document natd -punch_fw "bug" o docs/43651 doc stab(5) incorrectly states to include just stab.h when o docs/43823 doc [PATCH] update to environ(7) manpage o docs/43861 doc non-trivial typo in wicontrol(8) man page o docs/43941 doc document the Rationale for Upgrade Sequence (e.g. why o docs/44074 doc [patch] ln(1) manual clarifications o docs/45940 doc burncd(1) missing info o docs/46196 doc [patch] menu_format(3): Missing return value in (set_) o docs/46291 doc correlation between HZ kernel config parameter and soc o docs/46295 doc please add information to Nvi recovery email o docs/47594 doc [PATCH] passwd(5) incorrectly states allowed username o docs/47818 doc [patch] ln(1) manpage is confusing o docs/48101 doc [patch] add documentation on the fixit disk to the FAQ o docs/48980 doc [patch] nsgmls -s errors and sect. 3.2.1 of the fdp-pr o docs/50211 doc [PATCH] doc.docbook.mk: fix textfile creation o docs/50573 doc resolver(3): return values for res_query/res_search/re o docs/51875 doc [patch] atkbd(4) adjustment o docs/51891 doc DIAGNOSTICS in ed(4) driver manpage don't match realit o docs/51921 doc [patch] ls(1) manpage lacks some information about whi o docs/52071 doc [PATCH] Add more information about soft updates into a o docs/53575 doc Change to Handbook Section 20.9 (SMTP Authentication) o docs/53596 doc Updates to mt(1) manual page o docs/53732 doc quota output and quota(1) man page do not document uni o docs/54451 doc [patch] i386_get_ldt(2): i386_{get|set}_ldt manual pag o docs/54879 doc jot(1) -r description s docs/55482 doc document the fact that DUMP has access to block device o docs/57153 doc S_IRWXU missing in fstat(2) man page? o docs/57388 doc [patch] INSTALL.TXT enhancement: mention ok prompt o docs/57569 doc error on gensetdefs(8) man page o docs/57926 doc [patch] amd.conf(5) poorly format as it has both man(7 o docs/57974 doc man page apropos for select macros (FD_SET, etc) doesn o docs/58710 doc killpg(2) contains an error regarding sending SIGCONT o docs/59044 doc [patch] doc.docbook.mk does not properly handle a sour o docs/59477 doc Outdated Info Documents at http://docs.freebsd.org/inf o docs/59835 doc ipfw(8) man page does not warn about accepted but mean o docs/60529 doc resolver(5) man page is badly out of date o docs/60544 doc [patch] getenv(3) manpage doesn't state the return val o docs/61070 doc handbook: Installation docs misleading: PResizer isn' o docs/61301 doc [patch] Manpage patch for aue(4) to enable HomePNA fun o docs/61667 doc Obsolete documentation on FreeBSD PnP o docs/61859 doc ddb(4): Incorrect informaiton about trace command ddb o docs/62412 doc one of the diskless boot methods described in the Hand o docs/62719 doc cross-reference pccardd(8) and devd(8) o docs/62724 doc [patch] host(1) manpage does not include information a o docs/63215 doc Wrong prototypes in mi_switch(9) (ref docs/24311) o docs/64807 doc Handbook section on NAT incomplete o docs/65477 doc release notes: installation instruction fail to mentio o docs/65530 doc [patch] minor improvement to getgrent(3) o docs/66265 doc [patch] Document what -f and LD_TRACE_LOADED_OBJECTS_F o docs/66296 doc [patch] contrib/amd/amq/amq.8 uses log_options instead o docs/66343 doc [patch] unlisted supported card on man page for wi(4) o docs/66483 doc [patch] share/man/man4/csa.4 grammar nits o docs/66770 doc [patch] share/man/man4/ng_pppoe.4 tyops, grammar, and f docs/67806 doc [patch] Let 5.x users know how to boot into single use o docs/68843 doc Dates on rc.subr(8) & rc(8) are whack. o docs/68845 doc The .At macro produces unexpected results o docs/69861 doc [patch] usr.bin/csplit/csplit.1 does not document POSI o docs/70217 doc [patch] Suggested rewrite of docproj/sgml.sgml for cla o docs/71555 doc handbook: changes for how to run matlab on 5.2 o docs/71690 doc [patch] inaccurate information in systat(1) manpage f docs/71980 doc Handbook says that no other software is known to be ab o docs/72383 doc manpage for awk(1) is terribly small and loses importa o docs/73583 doc [patch] add missing instructions to ndis(4) o docs/73638 doc ipfw(8): Clarify syntax for use of tables with ipfw o docs/73679 doc FreeBSD 5.3 Release notes mention new natd(8) function o docs/74477 doc [patch] Correct several links in the contributing arti o docs/74612 doc [patch] updates to the glossary o docs/75068 doc login.conf(5) manual page says nothing about a hashed o docs/75577 doc [patch] typos in man3 manual pages, login_class.3, log o docs/75865 doc comments on "backup-basics" in handbook o docs/75995 doc hcreate(3) documentation(?) bug o docs/76094 doc handbook: incorrect statement about partition d o docs/76333 doc [patch] ferror(3): EOF indicator can be cleared by not o docs/76515 doc [patch] misleading use of make -j flag in handbook o docs/77087 doc [patch] the bootvinum script given in the vinum articl o docs/78041 doc [patch] docs for md(4) need further explanation of typ o docs/78138 doc [patch] Error in pre-installation section of installat o docs/78240 doc [patch] handbook: replace with aroun f docs/78440 doc POSIX semaphores don't work by default in 5.3-STABLE o docs/78480 doc Networked printer setup unnecessarily complex in handb o docs/78520 doc error in man(5) lpd.conf, lpd.perms pages, and man(8) o docs/78915 doc rfork(2)'s RFTHREAD is not documented o docs/79156 doc buffersize knob for sound(4) is a tunable, not a sysct o docs/80159 doc [patch] rtld(1) mentions "%m" but it's not implemented o docs/80871 doc terminfo(5) man page source corrupted o docs/81776 doc ifconfig(8) man page not updated with carp(4) or pfsyn o docs/82114 doc ndisapi(9) manual page cross-referenced but does not e o docs/82508 doc misleading man page for basename(3)/dirname(3) o docs/82595 doc 25.5.3 Configuring a bridge section of the handbook ne o docs/82779 doc [patch] Kill entry for ddb manpage o docs/83621 doc [patch]: Minor omissions in /usr/src/UPDATING p docs/84101 doc [patch] mt(1) manpage has erroneous synopsis, etc. o docs/84154 doc Handbook somewhat off in use of /boot/kernel.old o docs/84265 doc [patch] chmod(1) manpage omits implication of setting p docs/84266 doc [patch] security(8) manpage should have init(8)'s list o docs/84267 doc [patch] chflags(1) manual doesn't say it's affected by o docs/84268 doc chmod(1) manpage's BUGS entry is either wrong or too c o docs/84317 doc fdp-primer doesn't show class=USERNAME distinctively o docs/84408 doc [patch] dump(8) manpage doesn't require an option and o docs/84467 doc [patch] bsdlabel(8) manpage uses archaic "pack" in "ap s docs/84519 doc [patch] mdoc(7) manpage needs more about AUTHORS o docs/84549 doc [patch] errno(2) manpage uses "<...>" for "(..)" s docs/84550 doc mdoc(7) manpage erroneously requires SYNOPSIS section o docs/84645 doc intro(6) manpage should always be installed or ... o docs/84670 doc [patch] tput(1) manpage missing ENVIRONMENT section wi o docs/84764 doc [patch] hosts.equiv(5) manpage should SEE ALSO netgrou o docs/84806 doc mdoc(7) manpage has section ordering problems o docs/84849 doc [patch] fdisk(8) manpage doesn't warn fdisk doesn't re o docs/84913 doc bsdlabel(8) manpage seems wrong about fsize, bsize, bp o docs/84955 doc [patch] mdoc(7) manpage should mention missing documen o docs/84956 doc [patch] intro(5) manpage doesn't mention API coverage o docs/85062 doc [patch] tr(1) manpage omits several character classes o docs/85063 doc [patch] expand(1) manpage needs to clarify -t option o docs/85066 doc [patch] builtin(1) manpage has incomplete SYNOPSIS sec o docs/85097 doc [patch] devd.conf.5 lacks a lot of vital information. o docs/85100 doc NOTES: ICH audio device support statement is ambiguous o docs/85118 doc [PATCH] opiekey(1) references non-existing opiegen(1) o docs/85127 doc [patch] loader(8) manpage uses too-rare "depuration" o docs/85128 doc loader.conf(5) autoboot_delay incompletly described o docs/85186 doc [patch] ktrace(1) manpage doesn't warn about need for o docs/85187 doc [patch] find(1) manpage missing block info for -ls o docs/85243 doc Missing icmp related abbreviations for pf.conf(5) in i o docs/85353 doc [patch] minor cosmetic/punctuation changes for the GEO o docs/86342 doc bikeshed entry of Handbook is wrong o docs/86733 doc [patch] handbook: add using kldload as an alternative o docs/87857 doc ifconfig(8) wireless options order matters o docs/87936 doc Handbook chapter on NIS/YP lacks good information on a o docs/88477 doc Possible addition to xl(4) manpage, Diagnostics sectio o docs/88503 doc mkuzip(8) references nonexistant geom_uzip(4) o docs/88512 doc [patch] mount_ext2fs(8) man page has no details on lar o docs/89325 doc [PATCH] Clarification of kbdmap(5), atkbd(4) and kbdco o docs/89492 doc vfs doc: some VOP_*(9) manual pages are outdated with o docs/91149 doc read(2) can return EINVAL for unaligned access to bloc o docs/91297 doc restore(8) man page not accurate? o docs/91506 doc ndis(4) man page should be more specific about support o docs/92626 doc jail manpage should mention disabling some periodic sc o docs/93249 doc rewrite of handbook chapter 23 (PPP & SLIP) o docs/93363 doc Handbook 23.11. SMTP-Authentifizierung o docs/93491 doc discrepancy man page for pam_unix(8) f docs/93517 doc Presented usage of Ports in Handbook lacks several imp o docs/93590 doc [patch] pf.conf's man page mentions route labels, but o docs/94125 doc DGE-530T doesn't work on FreeBSD v6.0 o docs/94625 doc [patch] growfs man page -- document "panic: not enough o docs/94803 doc Slightly confusing/misleading man page for `ffs' funct o docs/95039 doc [patch] small cosmetic syslog.conf(5) fix o docs/95104 doc tsleep() man page mentions nonexistent 'mtx' arg o docs/95139 doc FAQ to move filesystem to new disk fails: incorrect pe o docs/96127 doc add hint to pass arp packets through filtering bridge o docs/96207 doc Comments of a sockaddr_un structure could confuse one o docs/97231 doc [patch] ndis(4) man page outdated o docs/97375 doc [PATCH] remove nonexistent man page reference o docs/97409 doc Incorrect command name in Kerberos section (k5init doe o docs/97939 doc some mistake in man of amq(8) o docs/98129 doc older versions of the handbook not easy to find o docs/98801 doc [patch] gmirror(8) and glabel(8) manpages should menti o docs/98842 doc misc requests for gdbe o docs/98941 doc Partitioning resize - only commercial product availabl o docs/98974 doc Missing tunables in loader(8) manpage o docs/99007 doc [patch] misleading nat configuration info o docs/99215 doc Documentation change for sshd_config o docs/99336 doc Unclear handbook wording about firewall_enable o docs/99356 doc man page of sendmsg(2) does not include EINVAL o docs/99506 doc FreeBSD Handbook addition: IPv6 Server Settings o docs/99631 doc [patch] document jid option in top(1) o docs/99640 doc [patch] Replace ${JADEFLAGS} with the corresponding va o docs/99715 doc [patch] add exception to 6.5 Using perl o docs/99768 doc [patch] Handbook 25.9 make_smbpasswd is useless to map o docs/99831 doc grep(1): grep -P is unsupported (according to grep) bu o docs/99845 doc [patch] First introduce porttools to Porter's Handbook o docs/99912 doc Wrong documentation of /etc/ftpchroot p docs/100083 doc missing pthread_yield man page o docs/100196 doc man login.conf does explain not "unlimited" o docs/100242 doc sysctl(3) description of KERN_PROC is not correct anym o docs/100494 doc Missing description of "birth time of the inode" in ma o docs/100538 doc [PATCH] en_US: Correct handbook/install (update the bo o docs/100764 doc Handbook addition request -- MIT kerberos o docs/101001 doc out of date documentation in the handbook on Chapter 1 f docs/101114 doc icmptype names not in icmp(4) manpage o docs/101145 doc msgsnd(3) manpage doesn't define msgsz clearly o docs/101262 doc man login.conf does not mention how to escape a colon o docs/101271 doc serial console documentation implies kernel rebuild re o docs/101464 doc sync u_RU.KOI8-R/articles/portbuild/article.html with o docs/101564 doc man 4 random has a URL as reference o docs/102118 doc [patch sbin/ifconfig/ifconfig.8] Add -v to the descrip o docs/102542 doc [patch] books/handbook/l10n/chapter.sgml o docs/102719 doc [patch] ng_bpf(4) example leads to unneeded promiscuos o docs/103151 doc Some minor update for using gif(4) p docs/103162 doc [patch] Add missing 'make quicksearch' description to o docs/103194 doc Mailings lists "aic7xxx" and "kde" don't exist o docs/103347 doc Incorrect file summary in devfs(8) o docs/103420 doc [patch] usbhidctl(1): update manual page to include wr o docs/103519 doc [patch] minor suggestions to changes in handbook ports 213 problems total. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 25 15:08:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C988E16A416 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2006 15:08:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paulalexwilson@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 638FA43D46 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2006 15:08:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from paulalexwilson@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so1888409wxd for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2006 08:08:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=sUyvuIo/kolQeu6dgHhSrDFKMJiFzEHweNEC/pIKJobs3/yr9r5usSDV8ls6Ea6ScS2j/MQuvI+kRZs2sd5C99syZtROrnZh/iMkodvVUsbg6SlYqgD6YDGpLGPYYjWTJP/kGjtpCE9EWlDsIIk0nzQ3yMDUAf1GJhZx+I+3+eU= Received: by 10.70.117.1 with SMTP id p1mr7290393wxc; Mon, 25 Sep 2006 08:08:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.89.4 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Sep 2006 08:08:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3c3d11cf0609250808l1c2ae52dycff1384eeae8ac61@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 16:08:55 +0100 From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Duane Whitty" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Let's get started X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 15:08:56 -0000 Duane, We need to work out some things together before we can begin in earnest. Perhaps identifying where the work is most urgently required would be the best thing to start with, then branch out from there. Unless you have some ideas? Also, do you want all collaboration going through doc@ or do you want to set up some other way of doing things? Paul From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 26 07:10:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62F0916A403 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2006 07:10:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E136943D46 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2006 07:10:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k8Q7ALjW012160 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2006 07:10:21 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k8Q7ALDV012159; Tue, 26 Sep 2006 07:10:21 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 07:10:21 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200609260710.k8Q7ALDV012159@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, vd@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBBD616A407; Tue, 26 Sep 2006 07:00:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vd@datamax.bg) Received: from jengal.datamax.bg (jengal.datamax.bg [82.103.104.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E8343D45; Tue, 26 Sep 2006 07:00:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vd@datamax.bg) Received: from qlovarnika.bg.datamax (qlovarnika.bg.datamax [192.168.10.2]) by jengal.datamax.bg (Postfix) with SMTP id A515EB844; Tue, 26 Sep 2006 10:00:38 +0300 (EEST) Received: (nullmailer pid 90694 invoked by uid 1002); Tue, 26 Sep 2006 07:00:38 -0000 Message-Id: <20060926070038.GA90654@qlovarnika.bg.datamax> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 10:00:38 +0300 From: Vasil Dimov To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Cc: Subject: docs/103666: [patch] fix typo in aio_error(2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vd@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 07:10:27 -0000 >Number: 103666 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [patch] fix typo in aio_error(2) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Sep 26 07:10:21 GMT 2006 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Vasil Dimov >Release: FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE amd64 >Organization: N/A >Environment: >Description: See aio_error(2) If the request has completed unsuccessfully the error status -is returned as described in read(2), write(2), or fsync(2) is returned. +is returned as described in read(2), write(2), or fsync(2). >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- aio_error.2_typo.diff begins here --- Index: lib/libc/sys/aio_error.2 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/lib/libc/sys/aio_error.2,v retrieving revision 1.19 diff -u -r1.19 aio_error.2 --- lib/libc/sys/aio_error.2 2 Jul 2004 23:52:13 -0000 1.19 +++ lib/libc/sys/aio_error.2 26 Sep 2006 06:56:02 -0000 @@ -54,8 +54,7 @@ .Xr read 2 , .Xr write 2 , or -.Xr fsync 2 -is returned. +.Xr fsync 2 . On failure, .Fn aio_error returns --- aio_error.2_typo.diff ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 26 08:10:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3CD16A416 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2006 08:10:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0F5943D46 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2006 08:10:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k8Q8ATmQ017097 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2006 08:10:29 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k8Q8ATBx017095; Tue, 26 Sep 2006 08:10:29 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 08:10:29 GMT Message-Id: <200609260810.k8Q8ATBx017095@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Maxim Konovalov Cc: Subject: Re: docs/103666: [patch] fix typo in aio_error(2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Maxim Konovalov List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 08:10:30 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/103666; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Maxim Konovalov To: Vasil Dimov Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/103666: [patch] fix typo in aio_error(2) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 12:01:44 +0400 (MSD) [...] > Index: lib/libc/sys/aio_error.2 > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/lib/libc/sys/aio_error.2,v > retrieving revision 1.19 > diff -u -r1.19 aio_error.2 > --- lib/libc/sys/aio_error.2 2 Jul 2004 23:52:13 -0000 1.19 > +++ lib/libc/sys/aio_error.2 26 Sep 2006 06:56:02 -0000 > @@ -54,8 +54,7 @@ > .Xr read 2 , > .Xr write 2 , > or > -.Xr fsync 2 > -is returned. > +.Xr fsync 2 . > On failure, > .Fn aio_error > returns Please commit. -- Maxim Konovalov From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 26 09:49:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE33B16A403; Tue, 26 Sep 2006 09:49:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vd@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9872443D45; Tue, 26 Sep 2006 09:49:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vd@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (vd@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k8Q9nDvq028542; Tue, 26 Sep 2006 09:49:13 GMT (envelope-from vd@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from vd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k8Q9nDiw028538; Tue, 26 Sep 2006 09:49:13 GMT (envelope-from vd) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 09:49:13 GMT From: Vasil Dimov Message-Id: <200609260949.k8Q9nDiw028538@freefall.freebsd.org> To: vd@FreeBSD.org, vd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/103666: [patch] fix typo in aio_error(2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 09:49:14 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] fix typo in aio_error(2) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: vd State-Changed-When: Tue Sep 26 09:48:41 UTC 2006 State-Changed-Why: Committed http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=103666 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 26 09:50:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 723EE16A417 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2006 09:50:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC3F43D45 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2006 09:50:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k8Q9oKCi028645 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2006 09:50:20 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k8Q9oKIN028644; Tue, 26 Sep 2006 09:50:20 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 09:50:20 GMT Message-Id: <200609260950.k8Q9oKIN028644@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: dfilter@FreeBSD.ORG (dfilter service) Cc: Subject: Re: docs/103666: commit references a PR X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dfilter service List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 09:50:21 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/103666; it has been noted by GNATS. From: dfilter@FreeBSD.ORG (dfilter service) To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/103666: commit references a PR Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 09:48:12 +0000 (UTC) vd 2006-09-26 09:47:46 UTC FreeBSD src repository (ports committer) Modified files: lib/libc/sys aio_error.2 Log: Fix typo PR: docs/103666 Submitted by: vd Approved by: maxim Revision Changes Path 1.20 +1 -2 src/lib/libc/sys/aio_error.2 _______________________________________________ cvs-all@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/cvs-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "cvs-all-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 26 13:53:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: docs@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF84616A403 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2006 13:53:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@e.0x20.net) Received: from mail.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [217.69.67.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C5D43D45 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2006 13:53:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lars@e.0x20.net) Received: by mail.0x20.net (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 2A3AD33EAF; Tue, 26 Sep 2006 15:53:39 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 15:53:39 +0200 From: Lars Engels To: docs@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060926135339.GE6216@e.0x20.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uh9ZiVrAOUUm9fzH" Content-Disposition: inline X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 7.0 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: Subject: IRC Channels in FreeBSD FAQ X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 13:53:43 -0000 --uh9ZiVrAOUUm9fzH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Doc Team! I just stumbled upon http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/support.html#IRC There are far more FreeBSD-related channels on IRC than those. The Wiki has an own page for this: http://wikitest.freebsd.org/IrcChannels Perhaps the link to the Wiki should be added to the FAQ? Regards Lars --=20 Lars Engels E-Mail: lars.engels@0x20.net =09 Mobil: +49 172 266 72 73 --uh9ZiVrAOUUm9fzH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFGTDjKc512sD3afgRAkF1AKCnwVIiqz2PBfoa1EkPghZyGhjZSwCgrclk 2NgNfihHSEY1PhdUG3L1vkg= =LHHd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uh9ZiVrAOUUm9fzH-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 26 17:05:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: docs@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D228916A407 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:05:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oranki@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C24FD43D67 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:04:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oranki@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o67so3000908pye for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2006 10:04:49 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GfNM8FtGY8L68S4MLpc0u0cPeTzrzBNODQ3b4uGvNqDMQV1Y9VVoh6FgF0DEDZeyHujoShL4YDAWG0uzS8hBC6zM8qQDPjoJbemJnA13Eu92kEsWoaTBGQ52Eat+E7gVRbE3u53sN7nIOt+U4twSFhqMgSG7+tBw+l9N/dZlkWM= Received: by 10.35.74.1 with SMTP id b1mr1180336pyl; Tue, 26 Sep 2006 10:04:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.102.6 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Sep 2006 10:04:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:04:48 +0000 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Atte_Peltom=E4ki?=" To: "Lars Engels" In-Reply-To: <20060926135339.GE6216@e.0x20.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060926135339.GE6216@e.0x20.net> Cc: docs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IRC Channels in FreeBSD FAQ X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:05:00 -0000 On 9/26/06, Lars Engels wrote: > Hi Doc Team! > > I just stumbled upon > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/support.html#IRC > > There are far more FreeBSD-related channels on IRC than those. > The Wiki has an own page for this: > http://wikitest.freebsd.org/IrcChannels > > Perhaps the link to the Wiki should be added to the FAQ? I believe the link as such should not be added, as it includes no guidance about the nature of the channels. eg. #freebsd@IRCNet is much like it's EFNet counterpart, only even more abusive towards newbies. And EFNet's #bsdcode really serves a minor purpose these days, as a new channel has been dedicated for those who really work on the sources, leaving #bsdcode a mere hangaround joint. -Atte From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 27 03:20:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8189F16A416 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 03:20:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C389843D55 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 03:20:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k8R3KIRL023770 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 03:20:18 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k8R3KIFr023768; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 03:20:18 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 03:20:18 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200609270320.k8R3KIFr023768@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, "Denis Eremenko " Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84CBC16A596 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 03:14:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from moonshade@pnhz.kz) Received: from relay.pnhz.kz (relay.pnhz.kz [212.154.198.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88B2743D58 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 03:14:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from moonshade@pnhz.kz) Received: from abyss.pnhz.kz (abyss.pnhz.kz [192.168.121.40]) by relay.pnhz.kz with ESMTP id k8R3EeOd033187 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 09:14:40 +0600 (ALMT) (envelope-from moonshade@pnhz.kz) Message-Id: <1159326880.23410@abyss.pnhz.kz> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 09:14:40 +0600 From: "Denis Eremenko " To: "FreeBSD gnats submit" X-Send-Pr-Version: gtk-send-pr 0.4.7 Cc: Subject: docs/103700: chmod(1) man page does not mention root owned dirs exemption with suiddir X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 03:20:20 -0000 >Number: 103700 >Category: docs >Synopsis: chmod(1) man page does not mention root owned dirs exemption with suiddir >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Sep 27 03:20:17 GMT 2006 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Denis Eremenko >Release: FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE #0: Mon Sep 25 17:21:01 ALMT 2006 root@abyss.pnhz.kz:/usr/obj/data/os/FreeBSD/src/6/src/sys/ABYSS-6 >Description: "man chmod" says nothing about root owned dirs issue with suiddir in description of 4000 mode (setuid bit). But sys/conf/NOTES does: "Root owned directories are exempt and X bits are cleared". Having this note in chmod man page would make using suiddir less confusing. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 27 06:58:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E0C16A412; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 06:58:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chinsan@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBFD643D4C; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 06:58:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chinsan@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (chinsan@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k8R6ww5f048124; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 06:58:58 GMT (envelope-from chinsan@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from chinsan@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k8R6wwsj048120; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 06:58:58 GMT (envelope-from chinsan) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 06:58:58 GMT From: Chin-San Huang Message-Id: <200609270658.k8R6wwsj048120@freefall.freebsd.org> To: chinsan@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, chinsan@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/95262: Correction to handbook section 26.5.20 Port Redirection X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 06:58:59 -0000 Synopsis: Correction to handbook section 26.5.20 Port Redirection Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->chinsan Responsible-Changed-By: chinsan Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Sep 27 06:58:58 UTC 2006 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take it. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=95262 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 27 06:59:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D13716A4AB; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 06:59:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chinsan@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A737543D4C; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 06:59:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chinsan@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (chinsan@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k8R6xE7f048222; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 06:59:14 GMT (envelope-from chinsan@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from chinsan@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k8R6xEI1048218; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 06:59:14 GMT (envelope-from chinsan) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 06:59:14 GMT From: Chin-San Huang Message-Id: <200609270659.k8R6xEI1048218@freefall.freebsd.org> To: chinsan@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, chinsan@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/95263: Correction to handbook section 26.5.21.3 FTP NAT Proxy Bug X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 06:59:15 -0000 Synopsis: Correction to handbook section 26.5.21.3 FTP NAT Proxy Bug Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->chinsan Responsible-Changed-By: chinsan Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Sep 27 06:59:14 UTC 2006 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take it. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=95263 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 27 07:00:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23ECA16A415; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 07:00:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chinsan@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE04243D49; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 07:00:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chinsan@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (chinsan@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k8R70wpC048559; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 07:00:58 GMT (envelope-from chinsan@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from chinsan@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k8R70wU3048555; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 07:00:58 GMT (envelope-from chinsan) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 07:00:58 GMT From: Chin-San Huang Message-Id: <200609270700.k8R70wU3048555@freefall.freebsd.org> To: chinsan@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, chinsan@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/95265: Correction to handbook section 26.5.16 IPNAT Rules X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 07:00:59 -0000 Synopsis: Correction to handbook section 26.5.16 IPNAT Rules Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->chinsan Responsible-Changed-By: chinsan Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Sep 27 07:00:47 UTC 2006 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take it. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=95265 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 27 10:49:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A88316A49E; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:49:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maxim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9FD243D4C; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:49:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maxim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (maxim@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k8RAn8cx070207; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:49:08 GMT (envelope-from maxim@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from maxim@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k8RAn8sE070203; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:49:08 GMT (envelope-from maxim) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:49:08 GMT From: Maxim Konovalov Message-Id: <200609271049.k8RAn8sE070203@freefall.freebsd.org> To: lars.engels@0x20.net, maxim@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/103162: [patch] Add missing 'make quicksearch' description to ports.7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:49:09 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] Add missing 'make quicksearch' description to ports.7 State-Changed-From-To: patched->closed State-Changed-By: maxim State-Changed-When: Wed Sep 27 10:48:48 UTC 2006 State-Changed-Why: Merged to RELENG_6. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=103162 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 27 11:15:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC6116A4D1; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 11:15:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gurkan@linuks.mine.nu) Received: from wiggis.ethz.ch (wiggis.ethz.ch [129.132.86.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D584843D5F; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 11:15:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gurkan@linuks.mine.nu) Received: from wiggis3.ethz.ch (wiggis3.ethz.ch [192.168.127.4]) by wiggis.ethz.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1D554414; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:15:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [195.176.50.50] (bludger.ethz.ch [195.176.50.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by wiggis.ethz.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 300AA43E8; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:15:24 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <451A5D4B.8020201@linuks.mine.nu> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:15:23 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCrkan_Seng=FCn?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at phys.ethz.ch Cc: dinoex@freebsd.org Subject: Addition to the FreeBSD Handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 11:15:40 -0000 Hello Could you possible add the following text with correct docbook formatting to the FreeBSD Handbook section 5.7 Desktop Environments: (Note: The binary package doesn't yet exist, but probably should be created soonish. The following ports already exists: http://io.ethz.ch/~tar/freebsd/gnustep/ports.txt (the last five are going to be processed)) GNUstep About GNUstep GNUstep is a cross-platform, object-oriented framework for desktop application development. Based on the OpenStep specification originally created by NeXT (now Apple), GNUstep enables developers to rapidly build sophisticated software by employing a large library of reusable software components. GNUstep is used in production environments at several organizations. Installing GNUstep A binary package for GNUstep exists (at the time of writing). To install, simply type: # pkg_add -r gnustep Alternatively, to build from source, use the ports collection: # cd /usr/ports/devel/gnustep # make install clean Now, tell the X server to launch GNUstep the next time X is started. Simply type this: % echo "exec wmaker" > ~/.xinitrc Now, whenever the X Window System is invoked with startx, GNUstep will be the desktop. Anti-aliased Fonts with GNUstep % defaults write NSGlobalDomain GSBackend libgnustep-art Yours, Guerkan From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 27 11:39:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: docs@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F31416A417 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 11:39:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@e.0x20.net) Received: from mail.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [217.69.67.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD4443D45 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 11:39:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lars@e.0x20.net) Received: by mail.0x20.net (Postfix, from userid 1002) id ADC1034ED9; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:39:28 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:39:28 +0200 From: Lars Engels To: Atte =?iso-8859-15?Q?Peltom=E4ki?= Message-ID: <20060927113928.GK6216@e.0x20.net> References: <20060926135339.GE6216@e.0x20.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="n8884J15jRwcBTvu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 7.0 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: docs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IRC Channels in FreeBSD FAQ X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 11:39:30 -0000 --n8884J15jRwcBTvu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 05:04:48PM +0000, Atte Peltom=E4ki wrote: > On 9/26/06, Lars Engels wrote: > >Hi Doc Team! > > > >I just stumbled upon > >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/support.html#IRC > > > >There are far more FreeBSD-related channels on IRC than those. > >The Wiki has an own page for this: > >http://wikitest.freebsd.org/IrcChannels > > > >Perhaps the link to the Wiki should be added to the FAQ? >=20 > I believe the link as such should not be added, as it includes no guidance > about the nature of the channels. eg. #freebsd@IRCNet is much like it's > EFNet counterpart, only even more abusive towards newbies. And EFNet's > #bsdcode really serves a minor purpose these days, as a new channel has > been dedicated for those who really work on the sources, leaving #bsdcode > a mere hangaround joint. Okay, that is a good point. I didn't think about that. Anyway, thank you for your quick answer. -- Lars --n8884J15jRwcBTvu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFGmLwKc512sD3afgRAjtjAKCVpFiniL0SbRZgLf1+DV6G0ObgqACdEuZZ TZwulESjIkRugyb+n/8+QOs= =EZub -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --n8884J15jRwcBTvu-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 28 01:20:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-docs@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5645F16A417 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:20:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D2D43D53 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:20:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k8S1KHol057639 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:20:17 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k8S1KH5C057637; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:20:17 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:20:17 GMT Message-Id: <200609280120.k8S1KH5C057637@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-docs From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:12:26 GMT <200609280112.k8S1CQR3041469@www.freebsd.org> Cc: Subject: Re: docs/103730: duplicated file in mail archive X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:20:18 -0000 Thank you very much for your problem report. It has the internal identification `docs/103730'. The individual assigned to look at your report is: freebsd-doc. You can access the state of your problem report at any time via this link: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=103730 >Category: docs >Responsible: freebsd-doc >Synopsis: duplicated file in mail archive >Arrival-Date: Thu Sep 28 01:20:17 GMT 2006 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 28 01:20:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035C916A407 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:20:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A58E43D4C for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:20:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k8S1KIMb057646 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:20:18 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k8S1KI3P057644; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:20:18 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:20:18 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200609280120.k8S1KI3P057644@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-docs Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABFF416A412 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:12:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7919143D45 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:12:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k8S1CQmG041470 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:12:26 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k8S1CQR3041469; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:12:26 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200609280112.k8S1CQR3041469@www.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:12:26 GMT From: freebsd-docs To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-2.3 Cc: Subject: docs/103730: duplicated file in mail archive X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:20:19 -0000 >Number: 103730 >Category: docs >Synopsis: duplicated file in mail archive >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Sep 28 01:20:17 GMT 2006 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: freebsd-docs >Release: >Organization: >Environment: >Description: Not sure if this is for docs or hubs or ...? The following file is duplicated in the mail archive. Please remove the '.old' one. -rw-r--r-- 1 mirror mirror 309373 Feb 14 19:41:46 2000 /home/zooz/disk/c1/mirror_pub/freebsd/freebsd_mail-archive/archive/1997/freebsd-questions/19970209.freebsd-questions.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 mirror mirror 309373 Feb 14 19:41:46 2000 /home/zooz/disk/c1/mirror_pub/freebsd/freebsd_mail-archive/archive/1997/freebsd-questions/19970209.freebsd-questions.gz.old /freebsd/freebsd_mail-archive/archive/1997/freebsd-questions/19970209.freebsd-questions.gz: gzip compressed data, was "19970209.freebsd-questions", from Unix /freebsd/freebsd_mail-archive/archive/1997/freebsd-questions/19970209.freebsd-questions.gz.old: gzip compressed data, was "19970209.freebsd-questions", from Unix /freebsd/freebsd_mail-archive/archive/1997/freebsd-questions/19970209.freebsd-questions.gz) = 3a1397097dd65ea69f661d5ec5b3348a /freebsd/freebsd_mail-archive/archive/1997/freebsd-questions/19970209.freebsd-questions.gz.old) = 3a1397097dd65ea69f661d5ec5b3348a Thanks, offline searcher/reader. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 28 06:40:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA00616A403 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 06:40:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BC9E43D55 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 06:40:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k8S6eRUo097237 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 06:40:27 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k8S6eRvA097232; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 06:40:27 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 06:40:27 GMT Message-Id: <200609280640.k8S6eRvA097232@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Maxim Konovalov Cc: Subject: docs/100494 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Maxim Konovalov List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 06:40:28 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/100494; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Maxim Konovalov To: bug-followup@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: docs/100494 Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 10:35:06 +0400 (MSD) Added to the audit trail. -- Maxim Konovalov ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 03:09:49 -0400 (EDT) From: waldeck@gmx.de To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Subject: Re: Re: Re: docs/100494 Hi Maxim, you did not answer my last email! > I'm not sure I understand your quiestion completely. In UFS2 there is > a lazy inode allocation mechanism but it is irrelevant to the topic > because st_birthtime is an attribute of the file the inode refers. Summary: 1. birthtime is NOT a standard Un!x feature. 2. The biological term "birth" is misleading and unsuitable! 3. A clear and evident definition is required! 4. During the file creation a inode is allocated. 5. This time is saved in st_birthtime. man 1 stat should be: > a, m, c, B > The time file was last accessed or modified, of when the > inode was last changed, or the time of file creation > (the so called birth time of the inode). instead of: > inode was last changed, or the birth time of the inode. man 2 stat should be: > st_birthtime Time when the file was created and the inode was allocated. ^^^^ instead of: > st_birthtime Time when the inode was created. Thanks! Markus From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 28 09:10:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DAE916A4C2 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 09:10:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF54F43D67 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 09:10:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k8S9ALGJ014181 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 09:10:21 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k8S9AL8c014174; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 09:10:21 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 09:10:21 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200609280910.k8S9AL8c014174@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Oliver Fromme Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CFD616A407 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 09:08:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 243A143D5C for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 09:08:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (unefez@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k8S98mIB073232; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 11:08:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id k8S98lxP073229; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 11:08:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Message-Id: <200609280908.k8S98lxP073229@lurza.secnetix.de> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 11:08:47 +0200 (CEST) From: Oliver Fromme To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Cc: Oliver Fromme Subject: docs/103740: su(1) refers to pam(8) which doesn't exist X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Oliver Fromme List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 09:10:27 -0000 >Number: 103740 >Category: docs >Synopsis: su(1) refers to pam(8) which doesn't exist >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Sep 28 09:10:20 GMT 2006 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Oliver Fromme >Release: FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE >Organization: secnetix GmbH & Co. KG http://www.secnetix.de/bsd >Environment: System: FreeBSD epia.fromme.com 6.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE #0: Wed Sep 20 14:47:28 CEST 2006 olli@epia.fromme.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/EPIA i386 >Description: The su(1) manual page mentions pam(8) in the "see also" section, but such a manual page does not exist. I think it would make sense to refer to the pam.conf(5) manual page, which describes the format of /etc/pam.d/su, to which the text of the su(1) manual page refers. (There is, in fact, a pam(3) manual page, but it contains API programming information which isn't useful to someone who wants to configure PAM for the su(1) command. Therefore I think that pam(3) shouldn't be mentioned in the su(1) manpage; it would rather cause confusion.) >How-To-Repeat: Type "man 1 su", look at the "SEE ALSO" section, then try to type "man 8 pam". Nada. >Fix: --- src/usr.bin/su/su.1.orig Tue Jan 31 21:32:36 2006 +++ src/usr.bin/su/su.1 Thu Sep 28 11:07:32 2006 @@ -231,9 +231,9 @@ .Xr sh 1 , .Xr group 5 , .Xr login.conf 5 , +.Xr pam.conf 5 , .Xr passwd 5 , .Xr environ 7 , -.Xr pam 8 , .Xr pam_group 8 .Sh HISTORY A >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 28 14:28:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D32616A403; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 14:28:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7845743DA6; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 14:28:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (danger@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k8SESkpu045949; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 14:28:46 GMT (envelope-from danger@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from danger@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k8SESkrE045945; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 14:28:46 GMT (envelope-from danger) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 14:28:46 GMT From: Daniel Gerzo Message-Id: <200609281428.k8SESkrE045945@freefall.freebsd.org> To: olli@secnetix.de, danger@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/103740: su(1) refers to pam(8) which doesn't exist X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 14:28:49 -0000 Synopsis: su(1) refers to pam(8) which doesn't exist State-Changed-From-To: open->patched State-Changed-By: danger State-Changed-When: Thu Sep 28 14:28:02 UTC 2006 State-Changed-Why: This is already fixed in HEAD, but needs to be MFC'ed. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=103740 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 28 14:31:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98A1E16A407; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 14:31:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5439943D6D; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 14:31:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (danger@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k8SEV42M047183; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 14:31:04 GMT (envelope-from danger@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from danger@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k8SEV4DC047179; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 14:31:04 GMT (envelope-from danger) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 14:31:04 GMT From: Daniel Gerzo Message-Id: <200609281431.k8SEV4DC047179@freefall.freebsd.org> To: danger@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, danger@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/103740: su(1) refers to pam(8) which doesn't exist X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 14:31:04 -0000 Synopsis: su(1) refers to pam(8) which doesn't exist Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->danger Responsible-Changed-By: danger Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Sep 28 14:30:48 UTC 2006 Responsible-Changed-Why: I will take care of this one. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=103740 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 28 18:44:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA2CB16A528 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 18:44:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from viktor@korshunov.ru) Received: from post.kis.ru (mail.kis.ru [195.98.32.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107E343D45 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 18:44:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from viktor@korshunov.ru) X-Virus-Scanned: by cgpav-clamav Received: from [212.92.175.186] (HELO BIZDOM-ST005) by post.kis.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.10) with ESMTP id 154922811 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 22:44:42 +0400 Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 22:45:55 +0400 From: Viktor Korshunov X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.71.04) Professional X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <3910221260.20060928224555@korshunov.ru> To: doc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 19:53:59 +0000 Cc: Subject: Handbook 14.10 VPN over IPsec X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Viktor Korshunov List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 18:44:47 -0000 Hello doc, some remark about one chapter. I've seen chapter in http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ipsec.html and trying to do it step by step. So, I have a cope of trouble. I found about my problem in search engine as google.com and found working decision. I think one sting must be added, one mask edited in this chapter for working decision. --- begin original text --- Summary: Configure both kernels with “device gif”. Edit /etc/rc.conf on gateway host #1 and add the following lines (replacing IP addresses as necessary). gifconfig_gif0="A.B.C.D W.X.Y.Z" ifconfig_gif0="inet 192.168.1.1 192.168.2.1 netmask 0xffffffff" static_routes="vpn" route_vpn="192.168.2.0 192.168.2.1 netmask 0xffffff00" --- end original text --- --- begin new text --- Summary: Configure both kernels with “device gif”. Edit /etc/rc.conf on gateway host #1 and add the following lines (replacing IP addresses as necessary). gifinterface="gif0" gifconfig_gif0="A.B.C.D W.X.Y.Z" ifconfig_gif0="inet 192.168.1.1 192.168.2.1 netmask 0xffffffff" static_routes="vpn" route_vpn="192.168.2.0 192.168.2.1 0xffffff00" --- end new text --- -- With regards, mailto:viktor@korshunov.ru Viktor Korshunov ICQ UIN: 106349261 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 29 04:02:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA02816A407 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2006 04:02:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from sccrmhc15.comcast.net (sccrmhc15.comcast.net [63.240.77.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A50CC43D66 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2006 04:02:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from gimpy (c-24-118-173-219.hsd1.mn.comcast.net[24.118.173.219]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc15) with ESMTP id <2006092904022901500imn3de>; Fri, 29 Sep 2006 04:02:29 +0000 From: Josh Paetzel To: doc@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 23:00:53 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609282300.53946.josh@tcbug.org> Cc: Subject: IPFW manpage suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 04:02:32 -0000 I have a friend who's converting from linux to FreeBSD. He's trying to set up ipfw and was reading through the ipfw manpage. He asked me some questions about examples in the manpage and while I think the manpage is very clear it is perhaps a poor example. As an example, an address specified as 1.2.3.4/24{128,35-55,89} will match the following IP addresses: 1.2.3.128, 1.2.3.35 to 1.2.3.55, 1.2.3.89 This is perfectly clear and works exactly as stated but the choice of 1.2.3.4/24 as a network number isn't the best in my opinion. His question was whether the example would match 1.2.3.4. It doesn't of course but perhaps the example would make more sense as: 1.2.3.0/24{128,35-55,89} This also opens to door to what happens if you do something like: 1.2.3.15/25{215-220} I regret to say I don't have a box I can actually test that on though. There are other places in the manpage where a network number would make more sense than an IP but the one I pointed out seems to be the most glaring. I'm willing to do the grunt work if it's determined it's worth changing. -- Thanks, Josh Paetzel From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 29 12:11:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5868216A407 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2006 12:11:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3571E43DA1 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2006 12:10:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k8TCAK5C075446 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2006 12:10:20 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k8TCAKN3075441; Fri, 29 Sep 2006 12:10:20 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 12:10:20 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200609291210.k8TCAKN3075441@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Michiel Overtoom Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8A4F16A407 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2006 12:02:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B0B243D5C for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2006 12:02:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k8TC2U4N057729 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2006 12:02:30 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k8TC2Uh0057728; Fri, 29 Sep 2006 12:02:30 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200609291202.k8TC2Uh0057728@www.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 12:02:30 GMT From: Michiel Overtoom To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-2.3 Cc: Subject: docs/103807: wicontrol(8) manpage contains a broken URL X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 12:11:20 -0000 >Number: 103807 >Category: docs >Synopsis: wicontrol(8) manpage contains a broken URL >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Sep 29 12:10:19 GMT 2006 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Michiel Overtoom >Release: 6.1-REL >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD Deschutes.Collenius 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #2: Thu Sep 28 16:55:21 CEST 2006 luyt@Deschutes.Collenius:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DESCHUTES i386 >Description: The manpage to wicontrol(8) contains an URL which point to a page which doesnt exist anymore: http://www.cs.rice.edu/~astubble/wep/wep_attack.html >How-To-Repeat: man wicontrol point your webbrowser to http://www.cs.rice.edu/~astubble/wep/wep_attack.html >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 29 22:20:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C150B16A416 for ; 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Fri, 29 Sep 2006 22:15:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (prime.gushi.org [72.9.101.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86B6B43D8C for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2006 22:14:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prime.gushi.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k8TMF20A091353 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2006 18:15:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: (from danm@localhost) by prime.gushi.org (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k8TMF1JB091352; Fri, 29 Sep 2006 18:15:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from danm) Message-Id: <200609292215.k8TMF1JB091352@prime.gushi.org> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 18:15:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Mahoney To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Cc: Subject: docs/103828: pw/adduser manpage make no mention of "dot.file" replace syntax in /usr/share/skel X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: User & List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 22:20:40 -0000 >Number: 103828 >Category: docs >Synopsis: pw/adduser manpage make no mention of "dot.file" replace syntax in /usr/share/skel >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Sep 29 22:20:18 GMT 2006 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Dan Mahoney (danm@prime.gushi.org) >Release: FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p3 i386 >Organization: Gushi Systems >Environment: System: FreeBSD prime.gushi.org 6.1-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p3 #0: Sat Aug 12 16:12:54 EDT 2006 danm@newprime.gushi.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Standard FreeBSD 6.1 release system, any hardware. >Description: The "adduser" command calls the "pw" command. Both these commands by default populate a user's directory from a "skeleton" directiory, by default /usr/share/skel. However, a substitution is present whereby "dotfiles" such as .cshrc can be placed in /usr/share/skel as dot.cshrc. When pw populates the directory, it strips the "dot" from the file name and makes it the file's true name, i.e. dot.cshrc --> .cshrc. >How-To-Repeat: man pw man adduser ls /usr/share/skel (scratch head about dot.cshrc syntax) >Fix: Two problems exist. One, that this behavior is not documented. Documentation is as easy as sticking the paragraph above into the relevant manpages (pw/adduser). The second, is that the behavior is undefined if /usr/share/skel contains BOTH a .cshrc and a dot.cshrc (as I can't make sense of C, someone else might need to help on this end.) The fix would be to document this as well. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: