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Regards, 1001 Postcards http://www.postcards.org/postcards/ References 1. http://216.223.126.4/cobalt-images/scan.exe From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 17 06:37:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27ACE16A403 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 06:37:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from netsick@iinet.net.au) Received: from customer-domains.icp-qv1-irony6.iinet.net.au (customer-domains.icp-qv1-irony6.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.225]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7152843D58 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 06:37:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from netsick@iinet.net.au) Received: from per-qv1-webmail-03.iinet.net.au (HELO mail.iinet.net.au) ([203.59.3.53]) by customer-domains.icp-qv1-irony6.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 17 May 2006 14:36:42 +0800 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-IronPort-AV: i="4.05,135,1146412800"; d="scan'208"; a="299752184:sNHT28839920" Received: (qmail 5641 invoked by uid 33); 17 May 2006 06:36:41 -0000 Received: from 203.59.1.180 ([203.59.1.180]) by mail.iinet.net.au (IMP) with HTTP for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 14:36:41 +0800 Message-ID: <1147847801.446ac4793ae8c@mail.iinet.net.au> Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 14:36:41 +0800 From: netsick@iinet.net.au To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.1 X-Originating-IP: 203.59.1.180 Cc: olli@lurza.secnetix.de Subject: RE: freebsd 6.1rc2 lacks i945 agp support X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 06:37:27 -0000 Thanks Oliver, You are about the only one who seems to have any idea about this.. or at least the only one that can be bothered to actually provide help, odd, considering the prob seems to be attracting more and more emails to the lists.. So MFC people.. how about migrating the 7 currents code down to 6.1 ?? It's possible so how about some action.. Oliver: Any chance of a list of source files you modified for 6.1 ? Regards Kris From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 17 07:26:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3ABB16A405 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 07:26:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhay@meraka.csir.co.za) Received: from zibbi.meraka.csir.co.za (zibbi.meraka.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6EC643D53 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 07:26:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhay@meraka.csir.co.za) Received: by zibbi.meraka.csir.co.za (Postfix, from userid 3973) id 9AFA533CAA; Wed, 17 May 2006 09:26:36 +0200 (SAST) Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 09:26:36 +0200 From: John Hay To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20060517072636.GA15060@zibbi.meraka.csir.co.za> References: <200605111124.k4BBO5RZ056866@lurza.secnetix.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200605111124.k4BBO5RZ056866@lurza.secnetix.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: Subject: Re: freebsd 6.1rc2 lacks i945 agp support X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 07:26:42 -0000 On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 01:24:05PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > netsick@iinet.net.au wrote: > > I have a Dell Optiplex 520 using i945 (ICH7) chipset. > > > > I have device agp in my kernel but /dev/agpgart is not being setup. This then > > effects the opertion of Xorg 6.9.x by not allowing it to load DRI and thus no > > XVideo support. > > The necessary fixes for i915 and i945 are in 7-current, and > I have asked several times in the past to MFC the code to > RELENG_6 (and I even showed that it's possible: My laptop > is running RELENG_6, with some code taken from -current, > so AGP is detected fine, so 3D acceleration + XVideo works). > > So, if you need that support, you have to do any of these: > - Switch to 7-current, or > - Merge the code into RELENG_6 yourself, like I did, or > - Try to talk someone into MFCing the AGP/DRM code. Any chance of making a patch of it available? If it works for me and nobody have anything against it... and it doesn't break existing stuff... I'll merge it. John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@meraka.csir.co.za / jhay@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 17 08:10:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32EA616A404 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 08:10:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.jfl@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 848D043D45 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 08:10:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adrian.jfl@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m3so158039uge for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 01:09:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Zqz+s+rrOqmkBPrGIiROfhcurF8S75MQIY/yQqNEZqHdx5LRHmdgnBplxe7ma1OD85d8gMnqQjSPYeASpwQCPi9/zKmcZ852HHPn1YyUzrboT/dEZ0VDA2Jxw2mcynJt8ZnCaR3OlPnpb7RfoU4Dn1LW6uOpfV5CaYQgM3Suefc= Received: by 10.78.32.16 with SMTP id f16mr116169huf; Wed, 17 May 2006 01:09:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.72.7 with HTTP; Wed, 17 May 2006 01:09:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 18:09:58 +1000 From: Adrian To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Recommendations for hardware RAID? no 3ware please ! X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 08:10:03 -0000 Hi, We have ~15 FreeBSD servers using different hardware. Most of the servers we have are using recent IDE 3ware controllers (eg 7450) in a RAID 5 configuration. I've always found these more trouble than they're worth. Sometimes the wrong drive degrades and so when I replace the drive and try and rebuild the array it repeatedly fails. I need to take the whole machine offline and spend a long time sector-scanning each drive (using powermax - they're Maxtor drives) and generally discover there is a hardware fault with one of the other drives.. If the drive with the actual error cannot be repaired using a sector level tool, it's then impossible to rebuild the array because the errors on the non-degraded drive keep causing the rebuild to fail so I have to rebuild the whole machine on a new array. Anyway - I like the IBM X series and we have had good experience with IBM's support... Unfortunately FreeBSD doesn't seem to fully support the Adaptec hostRAID technology yet - It will recognise the array in FreeBSD version 6 but if you pull a drive out the whole thing dies (it is dangerous to half-support a RAID controller like this). Can anyone recommend a vendor (Dell, HP etc) that will make my life easier? (no reboots, good management tools and monitoring) - I'm a bit over putting machines together myself to save a few dollars. Thanks, Adrian. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 17 13:11:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2466816A413 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 13:11:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guy@crossflight.co.uk) Received: from supermarine.crossflight.co.uk (supermarine.crossflight.co.uk [195.172.72.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B97943D46 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 13:11:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from guy@crossflight.co.uk) Received: from mailscan0.crossflight.co.uk (mailscan0.crossflight.co.uk [195.172.72.201]) by supermarine.crossflight.co.uk (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k4HDB05U097454 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 14:11:00 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from guy@crossflight.co.uk) Received: from [195.172.72.7] (northrop.crossflight.co.uk) by mailscan0.crossflight.co.uk (Clearswift SMTPRS 5.0.4) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 17 May 2006 14:10:59 +0100 Message-ID: <446B20E3.3040303@crossflight.co.uk> Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 14:10:59 +0100 From: Guy Dawson Organization: Crossflight Limited User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adrian References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.63-supermarine_global_rules_20050204a X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63-supermarine_global_rules_20050204a (2004-01-11) on supermarine.crossflight.co.uk Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recommendations for hardware RAID? no 3ware please ! X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 13:11:04 -0000 Adrian wrote: > Can anyone recommend a vendor (Dell, HP etc) that will make my life > easier? (no reboots, good management tools and monitoring) - I'm a > bit over putting machines together myself to save a few dollars. We like HP with SCSI raid. We run a FreeBSD 6 IMAP server on an DL360G4p and we're very happy with it. FreeBSD is installed on the two internal, hot swap SCSI disk using the built in SCSI raid and there's an MSA 1000 external box with 7 SCSI disks for mail storage. We had a disk failure in the DL360G4p about a month after delivery. The red light when on and we got some logging. We removed the failed drive, plugged in the new drive and the array came online soon after. Painless. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 13:21:18 -0000 Guy Dawson wrote: > the built in SCSI raid and there's an MSA 1000 external box with Doh! It's an MSA 30 Guy -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Guy Dawson I.T. Manager Crossflight Ltd guy@crossflight.co.uk 07973 797819 01753 776104 ********************************************************************** This email contains the views and opinions of a Crossflight Limited employee and at this stage are in no way a direct representation oF Crossflight Limited. Crossflight Limited is an international express courier, mailing and logistics service provider, and is authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority to conduct General Insurance Business. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 16:10:07 -0000 Adrian wrote: > Hi, > > We have ~15 FreeBSD servers using different hardware. > > Most of the servers we have are using recent IDE 3ware controllers > (eg 7450) in a RAID 5 configuration. > > I've always found these more trouble than they're worth. Sometimes > the wrong drive degrades and so when I replace the drive and try and > [ ... ] > Can anyone recommend a vendor (Dell, HP etc) that will make my life > easier? (no reboots, good management tools and monitoring) - I'm a > bit over putting machines together myself to save a few dollars. I think that you would find that the 9xxx series of these cards perform very well. The old 7xxx models were not so great. 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References 1. http://www.php-mania.org/ebay/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dllSignIn-ssPageName-hhsin.php From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 18 02:58:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 011A516A47F for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 02:58:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from netsick@iinet.net.au) Received: from customer-domains.icp-qv1-irony2.iinet.net.au (customer-domains.icp-qv1-irony2.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37ADD43D46 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 02:58:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from netsick@iinet.net.au) Received: from per-qv1-webmail-03.iinet.net.au (HELO mail.iinet.net.au) ([203.59.3.53]) by customer-domains.icp-qv1-irony2.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 18 May 2006 10:58:36 +0800 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-IronPort-AV: i="4.05,139,1146412800"; d="scan'208"; a="476846258:sNHT22092980" Received: (qmail 23848 invoked by uid 33); 18 May 2006 02:58:35 -0000 Received: from mail-placeholder.iinet.net.au (mail-placeholder.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.180]) by mail.iinet.net.au (IMP) with HTTP for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 10:58:35 +0800 Message-ID: <1147921115.446be2db595f4@mail.iinet.net.au> Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 10:58:35 +0800 From: netsick@iinet.net.au To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.1 X-Originating-IP: 203.59.1.180 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: 7-current also lacks i945 agp support - NO /dev/agpgart X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 02:58:54 -0000 Hi On Olivers advice given in the URL below I updated my sources to 7-current today and I still have no /dev/agpgart. Onboard audio works, SATA controller works, everything other hardware from this chipset works except for AGP ! Reference: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hardware/2006- May/003499.html I have the following in my KERNELCONF device agp # support several AGP chipsets I also added these for the sake of it but they will not work if I have no agpgart. device drm # DRM core module required by DRM drivers device i915drm # Intel i830 through i915 Can we please get this looked at..the i945 chipset has been around for along time now and its a bit odd that 7-Current does not even support it properly.. Can somebody work with me to solve this, I am willing to test anything anyone has to offer and can provide any details regarding hardware etc.. VIDEO RELATED DMESG output vgapci0: port 0xe898-0xe89f mem 0xfeb00000- 0xfeb7ffff,0xe0000000-0xefffffff,0xfeac0000-0xfe afffff irq 16 at device 2.0 on pci0 drm0: on vgapci0 error: [drm:pid0:drm_load] *ERROR* Card isn't AGP, or couldn't initialize AGP. device_attach: drm0 attach returned 12 vgapci1: mem 0xfeb80000-0xfebfffff at device 2.1 on pci0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 PCICONF -lv OUTPUT kris@VB-KRIS$ pciconf -lv hostb0@pci0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x01ad1028 chip=0x27708086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82945 Series Memory Controller Hub (MCH)' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI pcib1@pci0:1:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000088 chip=0x27718086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'PCI Express Graphics Port' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI vgapci0@pci0:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x01ad1028 chip=0x27728086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'Integrated Graphics Controller' class = display subclass = VGA vgapci1@pci0:2:1: class=0x038000 card=0x01ad1028 chip=0x27768086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'Integrated Graphics Controller' class = display pcib2@pci0:28:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000040 chip=0x27d08086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Root Port' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI pcib3@pci0:28:1: class=0x060400 card=0x00000040 chip=0x27d28086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Root Port' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI uhci0@pci0:29:0: class=0x0c0300 card=0x01ad1028 chip=0x27c88086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci1@pci0:29:1: class=0x0c0300 card=0x01ad1028 chip=0x27c98086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci2@pci0:29:2: class=0x0c0300 card=0x01ad1028 chip=0x27ca8086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci3@pci0:29:3: class=0x0c0300 card=0x01ad1028 chip=0x27cb8086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB ehci0@pci0:29:7: class=0x0c0320 card=0x01ad1028 chip=0x27cc8086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) USB 2.0 Enhanced Host Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB pcib4@pci0:30:0: class=0x060401 card=0x00000050 chip=0x244e8086 rev=0xe1 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801BA/CA/DB/DBL/EB/ER/FB (ICH2/3/4/4/5/5/6), 6300ESB Hub Interface to PCI Bridge' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI pcm0@pci0:30:2: class=0x040100 card=0x01ad1028 chip=0x27de8086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801GB I/O Controller Hub AC'97 Audio' class = multimedia subclass = audio isab0@pci0:31:0: class=0x060100 card=0x00000000 chip=0x27b88086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801GB/GR (ICH7 Family) LPC Interface Controller' class = bridge subclass = PCI-ISA atapci0@pci0:31:1: class=0x01018a card=0x01ad1028 chip=0x27df8086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) Ultra ATA Storage Controller' class = mass storage subclass = ATA atapci1@pci0:31:2: class=0x01018f card=0x01ad1028 chip=0x27c08086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801GB/GR/GH (ICH7 Family) Serial ATA Storage Controller' class = mass storage subclass = ATA none0@pci0:31:3: class=0x0c0500 card=0x01ad1028 chip=0x27da8086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller' class = serial bus subclass = SMBus bge0@pci2:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x01ad1028 chip=0x167714e4 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation' device = 'BCM5750A1 NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express' class = network subclass = ethernet Kris From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 18 05:21:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F2A316A400 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 05:21:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from plaine@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C4A343D45 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 05:21:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from plaine@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i28so326863wra for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 22:21:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=frDfUf60d86ms2TmrSfL26SOHJUQZSKb6yToiU69+3dt5/QtokWkXI4wSxwmnQWaUj1ExACAM4UETzmmyEJVHk4n2Mvzo3y2aK/zLMVzD5LOvnq0+bc9IsJPGzcomtKo0YYk8xRDyfeo7clZTn++hb8aOvvTyDtB9JcrIM1rWMQ= Received: by 10.54.117.14 with SMTP id p14mr127694wrc; Wed, 17 May 2006 22:20:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.107.16 with HTTP; Wed, 17 May 2006 22:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 08:21:25 +0300 From: "Perttu Laine" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: SATA-RAID Cards X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 05:21:26 -0000 Same question I asked earlier on -questions list, but I'll make it here again with new subject. :) So does anyone know if these SATA RAID cards or one them works in FreeBSD 5.4/5.5. Some stores have freebsd on supported os list of both card, but freebsds own hardware doesn't have either one. Card would be: XFX Revo64 (which is basically NetCell NC3000) Adaptec 1420SA --=20 kpn @ IRCnet From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 18 05:59:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DB9416A401 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 05:59:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from plaine@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEFDD43D49 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 05:59:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from plaine@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i28so331171wra for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 22:59:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Xd1KkKuDo+dcZkBJyEc76FioCqGsr6tIRhnRn3uM7pD5jjaRakbMKwuknP8YWp2J/MH1vyyTms0eNFFiPk24OtgHZXbWKg4BKsJNtH3fFA3gWIOxeOavm3jjjfYphtuYDC3nd0X26XmiZlDQ3Une5Hd4+gcf2It2iFBJ7QmaOV8= Received: by 10.54.118.13 with SMTP id q13mr158153wrc; Wed, 17 May 2006 22:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.107.16 with HTTP; Wed, 17 May 2006 22:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 08:59:46 +0300 From: "Perttu Laine" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: SATA-RAID Cards X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 05:59:47 -0000 On 5/18/06, Perttu Laine wrote: > > > So does anyone know if these SATA RAID cards or one them works in FreeBSD > 5.4/5.5. Some stores have freebsd on supported os list of both card, but > freebsds own hardware doesn't have either one. Card would be: > > XFX Revo64 (which is basically NetCell NC3000) > Adaptec 1420SA > Ok. So it seems Adaptec has marvel 88SX* chipset which is supported but it'= s not hardware raid after all. So question remains - does XFX Revo64 work with FreeBSD 5.4/5.5 with some driver? --=20 kpn @ IRCnet From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 18 06:30:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB3EB16A405 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 06:30:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikej@rogers.com) Received: from smtp106.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp106.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.225.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5746343D49 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 06:30:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mikej@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 30037 invoked from network); 18 May 2006 06:30:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=K01WWTdXf1Gv4aUbtcpmd8bcCGafPLMrYVQVk+mSmQR9Fyl/jgECdUE6V1dCEFpeaYCE2et3LSzXVtn12wP4f5+HUF37PveiytLZqySoHRZTEFhCZUihpZlnRXuppkoVH21+E1wcOB4bNgqKusZofVaY+9pVn+oBvNhIXAyDaqM= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?70.31.50.218?) (mikej@rogers.com@70.31.50.218 with plain) by smtp106.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 May 2006 06:30:23 -0000 Message-ID: <446C148B.5070908@rogers.com> Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 02:30:35 -0400 From: Mike Jakubik User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Perttu Laine References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SATA-RAID Cards X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 06:30:25 -0000 Perttu Laine wrote: > Same question I asked earlier on -questions list, but I'll make it here > again with new subject. :) > > So does anyone know if these SATA RAID cards or one them works in FreeBSD > 5.4/5.5. Some stores have freebsd on supported os list of both card, but > freebsds own hardware doesn't have either one. Card would be: > > XFX Revo64 (which is basically NetCell NC3000) > Adaptec 1420SA > Not quite sure what you just said there, but have a look at http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.1R/hardware-i386.html . Replace arch with your own for detailed info. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 18 06:34:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 654C116A400 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 06:34:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from plaine@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEECD43D46 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 06:34:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from plaine@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i28so335163wra for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 23:34:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=FRWQ4O5kj/tBCxRf3K79qzFHOZ8eA6/eJDCNhD8YYeBwVJNl9ig0xOyPDC/nKxa7dg/tLygiQfds8svQKxTm5SDuHJ+QLCnsZPNYSA7TwMkzEtpZFrFoi5bjwKtATcpVzywNY+S8JqpJACadvcPNXwxbOs7s70ui1D2lsO5FCso= Received: by 10.54.114.1 with SMTP id m1mr178802wrc; Wed, 17 May 2006 23:34:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.107.16 with HTTP; Wed, 17 May 2006 23:34:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 09:34:19 +0300 From: "Perttu Laine" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <446C148B.5070908@rogers.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <446C148B.5070908@rogers.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: SATA-RAID Cards X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 06:34:20 -0000 On 5/18/06, Mike Jakubik wrote: > > > > XFX Revo64 (which is basically NetCell NC3000) > > Not quite sure what you just said there, but have a look at > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.1R/hardware-i386.html . Replace arch > with your own for detailed info. > > I wouldn't ask if it was in that list. It's not. But many online stores are listing FreeBSD on supported OS list of that card. That's why I'm askin it here. --=20 kpn @ IRCnet From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 18 16:57:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E81D316A403 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 16:57:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikej@rogers.com) Received: from smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 526A343D48 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 16:57:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mikej@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 50423 invoked from network); 18 May 2006 16:57:18 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=4UsydkNALSn9pJQCznRRfdNJtyETuFrq5lhgHzkkEjiWLX55KJh0G0lbAJkD4uZHABmk0jSSwQF+wwzwiSTXHPSsYCDXQf9Y0m69D/DmSrcOxLTJYpLhl8GYOTIR11KtH8tf4bnvpHvvSZsFAGtKnKFy1vr/oHNyj6bJQ4jR+5M= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?70.31.50.218?) (mikej@rogers.com@70.31.50.218 with plain) by smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 May 2006 16:57:18 -0000 Message-ID: <446CA77E.1010905@rogers.com> Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 12:57:34 -0400 From: Mike Jakubik User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Perttu Laine References: <446C148B.5070908@rogers.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SATA-RAID Cards X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 16:57:20 -0000 Perttu Laine wrote: > On 5/18/06, Mike Jakubik wrote: >> >> >> > XFX Revo64 (which is basically NetCell NC3000) >> >> Not quite sure what you just said there, but have a look at >> http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.1R/hardware-i386.html . Replace arch >> with your own for detailed info. >> >> > I wouldn't ask if it was in that list. It's not. But many online > stores are > listing FreeBSD on supported OS list of that card. That's why I'm > askin it > here. > Then it probably is NOT supported, unless the manufacturer provides drivers. Having googled for this product, they don't seem to, just Linux. I would stay away from this product. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 18 22:26:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A7FA16A400 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 22:26:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [205.211.164.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E332243D45 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 22:26:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from BLUELAPIS.sentex.ca (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.13.4P/8.13.4) with SMTP id k4IMQRXL078006; Thu, 18 May 2006 18:26:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) From: Mike Tancsa To: "Perttu Laine" Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 18:26:34 -0400 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SATA-RAID Cards X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 22:26:29 -0000 On Thu, 18 May 2006 08:21:25 +0300, in sentex.lists.freebsd.hardware you wrote: >Same question I asked earlier on -questions list, but I'll make it here >again with new subject. :) > I would go with the 3ware or the ARECA. ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, Sentex communications http://www.sentex.net Providing Internet Access since 1994 mike@sentex.net, (http://www.tancsa.com) From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 19 14:28:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D059F16A420; Fri, 19 May 2006 14:28:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E277743D6A; Fri, 19 May 2006 14:27:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from [212.40.38.87] (oddity-e.topspin.kiev.ua [212.40.38.87]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id RAA28386; Fri, 19 May 2006 17:27:55 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Message-ID: <446DD5EB.6030300@icyb.net.ua> Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 17:27:55 +0300 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060512) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-U Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: 5.4=>6.1 regression: nforce2 vs. APIC [+fix] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 14:28:01 -0000 [Disclaimer, just in case: I do mean APIC, not ACPI] This is a good lesson for me for not trying any RCs or BETAs in due time. Short description of my system: nforce2 based motherboard NF-7 v2 with the latest BIOS (v2.7), CPU is Athlon XP. After upgrading from 5.4 to 6.1 I started to experience complete system freezes after some (short) time after each boot. 100% reproducible, time before lockup varied from several seconds to several minutes. I already had freezes but with different symptoms on this system with 5.2.1 and APIC enabled: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-September/058392.html These freezes were fixed either in 5.3 or in 5.4, I don't remember now precisely, but I had APIC enabled in kernel and BIOS for a long time. (Just in case: I did have interrupts > 15 all that time). So I went and disabled APIC in BIOS and freezes went away. I am not sure exactly why, but I wanted my APIC back. So I googled up a lot of information about nforce2+APIC, nforce2+Linux and APIC+FreeBSD. Here's a brief summary of my findings: 1. apparently on FreeBSD 5.4 APIC works in mixed mode, system uses IRQ0 timer and everything is OK (for reasons not clear to me). 2. apparently linux 2.4.* works similarly but had or has some problems with nforce2 because almost all BIOSes (MADTs) on almost all nforce2-based MBs (save for some Shuttles) have bogus IRQ0->PIN2 override and that screwed something in linux. This might be (have been) causing problems for some FreeBSD users, but not for me, not my MB. 3. apparently linux 2.6.* uses LAPIC timer similarly to FreeBSD 6.1, but people still experienced or experience hard freezes when they have all of the following 3 enabled: LAPIC timer, APIC and "Disconnect CPU on C1" chipset feature. The latter is done through either BOIS setting or through programs like fvcool. I indeed verified that if I disable "C1 disconnect", then 6.1 with APIC enabled works well. But the CPU temperature went up as well, so I wanted my "C1 disconnect" back :) After fruitlessly trying to hack sources to disable LAPIC timer and go back to IRQ0 timer and make this portion of kernel behave similarly to 5.4 (this is a long and uninteresting story), I finally found a very useful piece of information from within nVidia itself: http://lkml.org/lkml/2004/5/3/157 Based on that info and the linux patch in that thread I came up with the following PCI fixup. Now I am running 6.1 with both APIC and "C1 disconnect" enabled for 2 days without any problems. --- sys/dev/pci/fixup_pci.c.orig Wed May 17 21:08:47 2006 +++ sys/dev/pci/fixup_pci.c Thu May 18 16:42:53 2006 @@ -51,6 +51,7 @@ static int fixup_pci_probe(device_t dev); static void fixwsc_natoma(device_t dev); +static void fixc1_nforce2(device_t dev); static device_method_t fixup_pci_methods[] = { /* Device interface */ @@ -76,6 +77,9 @@ case 0x12378086: /* Intel 82440FX (Natoma) */ fixwsc_natoma(dev); break; + case 0x01e010de: /* nVidia nforce2 */ + fixc1_nforce2(dev); + break; } return(ENXIO); } @@ -99,4 +103,18 @@ pci_write_config(dev, 0x50, pmccfg, 2); } #endif +} + +/* + * See: http://lkml.org/lkml/2004/5/3/157 + */ +static void +fixc1_nforce2(device_t dev) +{ + uint32_t val; + + val = pci_read_config(dev, 0x6c, 4); + val &= 0xfff1ffff; + pci_write_config(dev, 0x6c, val, 4); + printf("fixup from nforce2 C1 CPU disconnect hangs\n"); } -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 19 14:55:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3AFD16A428 for ; Fri, 19 May 2006 14:55:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D63543D53 for ; Fri, 19 May 2006 14:55:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 19 May 2006 14:55:02 -0000 Received: from p54A7F38D.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.0.12]) [84.167.243.141] by mail.gmx.net (mp030) with SMTP; 19 May 2006 16:55:02 +0200 X-Authenticated: #5465401 Message-ID: <446DDC3E.1080102@gmx.de> Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 16:54:54 +0200 From: "[LoN]Kamikaze" Organization: Lords of Nightmare User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060423) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andriy Gapon References: <446DD5EB.6030300@icyb.net.ua> In-Reply-To: <446DD5EB.6030300@icyb.net.ua> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.4=>6.1 regression: nforce2 vs. APIC [+fix] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 14:55:05 -0000 Andriy Gapon wrote: > [Disclaimer, just in case: I do mean APIC, not ACPI] > > > Based on that info and the linux patch in that thread I came up with the > following PCI fixup. Now I am running 6.1 with both APIC and "C1 > disconnect" enabled for 2 days without any problems. > Did you file a PR with your fix? From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 19 15:16:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CAD016A45B; Fri, 19 May 2006 15:16:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8534343D46; Fri, 19 May 2006 15:16:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k4JFGesI037477; Fri, 19 May 2006 11:16:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 11:16:05 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <446DD5EB.6030300@icyb.net.ua> In-Reply-To: <446DD5EB.6030300@icyb.net.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200605191116.06248.jhb@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-u" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1471/Fri May 19 10:07:46 2006 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Andriy Gapon , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.4=>6.1 regression: nforce2 vs. APIC [+fix] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 15:16:43 -0000 On Friday 19 May 2006 10:27, Andriy Gapon wrote: > [Disclaimer, just in case: I do mean APIC, not ACPI] > > This is a good lesson for me for not trying any RCs or BETAs in due time. > > Short description of my system: nforce2 based motherboard NF-7 v2 with > the latest BIOS (v2.7), CPU is Athlon XP. > > ... > > Based on that info and the linux patch in that thread I came up with the > following PCI fixup. Now I am running 6.1 with both APIC and "C1 > disconnect" enabled for 2 days without any problems. Good find! The patch looks good. I've modified it slight to expand the comment and to make it more paranoid and only trigger for bus/slot/function 0/0/0 like the post mentions along with a minor tweak to the printf. Can you test to make sure I didn't break anything in the process? -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 19 15:20:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7D1716A41F; Fri, 19 May 2006 15:20:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E7DD43D45; Fri, 19 May 2006 15:20:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from [212.40.38.87] (oddity-e.topspin.kiev.ua [212.40.38.87]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id SAA29490; Fri, 19 May 2006 18:20:52 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Message-ID: <446DE254.50103@icyb.net.ua> Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 18:20:52 +0300 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060512) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Baldwin References: <446DD5EB.6030300@icyb.net.ua> <200605191116.06248.jhb@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <200605191116.06248.jhb@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-U Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.4=>6.1 regression: nforce2 vs. APIC [+fix] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 15:20:55 -0000 on 19/05/2006 18:16 John Baldwin said the following: > On Friday 19 May 2006 10:27, Andriy Gapon wrote: >> [Disclaimer, just in case: I do mean APIC, not ACPI] >> >> This is a good lesson for me for not trying any RCs or BETAs in due time. >> >> Short description of my system: nforce2 based motherboard NF-7 v2 with >> the latest BIOS (v2.7), CPU is Athlon XP. >> >> ... >> >> Based on that info and the linux patch in that thread I came up with the >> following PCI fixup. Now I am running 6.1 with both APIC and "C1 >> disconnect" enabled for 2 days without any problems. > > Good find! The patch looks good. I've modified it slight to expand > the comment and to make it more paranoid and only trigger for > bus/slot/function 0/0/0 like the post mentions along with a minor > tweak to the printf. Can you test to make sure I didn't break anything in the > process? Jon, sure, where can I find your version of the patch ? :-) -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 19 15:35:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E6E116A4F3; Fri, 19 May 2006 15:35:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ED3443D8B; Fri, 19 May 2006 15:35:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from [212.40.38.87] (oddity-e.topspin.kiev.ua [212.40.38.87]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id SAA29715; Fri, 19 May 2006 18:35:15 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Message-ID: <446DE5B3.1040101@icyb.net.ua> Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 18:35:15 +0300 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060512) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "[LoN]Kamikaze" References: <446DD5EB.6030300@icyb.net.ua> <446DDC3E.1080102@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <446DDC3E.1080102@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.4=>6.1 regression: nforce2 vs. APIC [+fix] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 15:35:35 -0000 on 19/05/2006 17:54 [LoN]Kamikaze said the following: > Andriy Gapon wrote: >> [Disclaimer, just in case: I do mean APIC, not ACPI] >> >> >> Based on that info and the linux patch in that thread I came up with the >> following PCI fixup. Now I am running 6.1 with both APIC and "C1 >> disconnect" enabled for 2 days without any problems. >> > > Did you file a PR with your fix? Not yet. I wanted to receive some feedback and test results first (and kinda hoped that this will get included without a PR). -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 20 10:45:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B51516A41F for ; Sat, 20 May 2006 10:45:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xuejian03@ios.cn) Received: from abyss.iscas.cn (abyss.iscas.cn [159.226.5.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 93F2B43D5E for ; Sat, 20 May 2006 10:45:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xuejian03@ios.cn) Received: (qmail 9735 invoked by uid 502); 20 May 2006 10:24:23 -0000 Received: from xuejian03@ios.cn by abyss.iscas.cn by uid 0 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (hbedv: 6.24.0.7/6.24.0.69. spamassassin: 2.63. Clear:RC:0(159.226.5.225):SA:0(-96.9/9.0):. 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