From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 6 13:49:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAA3F16A4DD for ; Sun, 6 Aug 2006 13:49:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from huangxiangkui@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E1A643D7D for ; Sun, 6 Aug 2006 13:49:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from huangxiangkui@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g2so1052976nfe for ; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 06:49:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=fyJTVzUF102sCHF9TEQiuewogORFeO873PBOBknR4mDqdkD8wr9tBH6dG4+ELg73Elux9DJUaBxZd/D/8b49P1ALW4zS2o+e77xNu4UOZcYyv106POuuEmeVtMNv6xuqA4Um0wXUShqOONJxY8BWsmLIUWObKHSTd1KNId7FwmE= Received: by 10.49.8.1 with SMTP id l1mr1093277nfi; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 06:49:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.164.19 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Aug 2006 06:49:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 21:49:04 +0800 From: huangxiangkui@gmail.com To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: The problem of HP Pavilion ze2205au Notebook X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2006 13:49:07 -0000 I use FreeBSD 6.1 release on my notebook,what is HP Pavilion ze2205au. The Notebook is use AMD Mobile Sempron CPU,and ATI Radeon xpress200M video card. When I use FreeBSD 6.0 release-p7 I counldn't use my sound card.But When I use the 6.1,I load snd_atiixp.ko,the sound card drive,my sound card is work. Now the notebook has some problem of my video card and ACPI. I do feel the problem is the problem of North Bridge(Host Bridge) on the mother board. I think if the FreeBSD could support the ATI North Bridge(Host Bridge) the problem of this style notebook will work out. Wait you. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 9 07:31:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80ED316A4DF for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 07:31:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from krassi@bulinfo.net) Received: from mx.bulinfo.net (mx.bulinfo.net [193.194.156.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A5B943D49 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 07:31:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krassi@bulinfo.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx.bulinfo.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA6F61DAA0 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 10:31:03 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mx.bulinfo.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx.bulinfo.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 78124-05 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 10:31:02 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.2.188] (pythia.bulinfo.net [212.72.195.5]) by mx.bulinfo.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D45731DA9C for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 10:31:02 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <44D98EC6.70307@bulinfo.net> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 10:29:10 +0300 From: Krassimir Slavchev User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mx.bulinfo.net Cc: Subject: Real and available memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 07:31:07 -0000 Hello, I have Vortex86-6082 with 128Mb AMI bios. Why the kernel reports only 80 MB available memory? Is this related to BIOS or kernel settings? dmesg output: Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #0: Wed Jul 26 10:09:06 EEST 2006 root@krassi:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TINYBSD Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Pentium (166.61-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "SiS SiS SiS " Id = 0x505 real memory = 125829120 (120 MB) avail memory = 84332544 (80 MB) kbd1 at kbdmux0 .... Best Regards From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 9 07:55:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC26116A4DE for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 07:55:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from thin.berklix.org (thin.berklix.org [194.246.123.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1351C43D70 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 07:54:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from js.berklix.net (p549A7683.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.118.131]) (authenticated bits=128) by thin.berklix.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k797srvB007216; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 09:54:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from fire.jhs.private (fire.jhs.private [192.168.91.41]) by js.berklix.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k797sqct031595; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 09:54:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from fire.jhs.private (localhost.jhs.private [127.0.0.1]) by fire.jhs.private (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k797sqnH085387; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 09:54:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.jhs.private) Message-Id: <200608090754.k797sqnH085387@fire.jhs.private> To: Krassimir Slavchev In-Reply-To: Message from Krassimir Slavchev of "Wed, 09 Aug 2006 10:29:10 +0300." <44D98EC6.70307@bulinfo.net> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 09:54:52 +0200 From: "Julian H. Stacey" Cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Real and available memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 07:55:03 -0000 Krassimir Slavchev wrote: > Hello, > > I have Vortex86-6082 with 128Mb AMI bios. > > Why the kernel reports only 80 MB available memory? > Is this related to BIOS or kernel settings? > > dmesg output: > > Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #0: Wed Jul 26 10:09:06 EEST 2006 > root@krassi:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TINYBSD > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 > CPU: Pentium (166.61-MHz 586-class CPU) > Origin = "SiS SiS SiS " Id = 0x505 > real memory = 125829120 (120 MB) > avail memory = 84332544 (80 MB) > kbd1 at kbdmux0 > ... Does the mboard BIOS on monitor at boot recognise all 128 M ? I've seen boards that only recognised 1/4 of the SIM size. 80 seems a bit of an odd (non hex) number though. -- Julian Stacey. Consultant Unix Net & Sys. Eng., Munich. http://berklix.com Mail in Ascii, HTML=spam. Ihr Rauch = mein allergischer Kopfschmerz. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 9 08:30:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 991D016A4DE for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 08:30:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from krassi@bulinfo.net) Received: from mx.bulinfo.net (mx.bulinfo.net [193.194.156.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD8E43D4C for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 08:30:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krassi@bulinfo.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx.bulinfo.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 233571DB42; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 11:30:10 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mx.bulinfo.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx.bulinfo.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 82507-04; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 11:30:09 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.2.188] (pythia.bulinfo.net [212.72.195.5]) by mx.bulinfo.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28AF51DB41; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 11:30:09 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <44D99CA0.1030703@bulinfo.net> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 11:28:16 +0300 From: Krassimir Slavchev User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Julian H. Stacey" References: <200608090754.k797sqnH085387@fire.jhs.private> In-Reply-To: <200608090754.k797sqnH085387@fire.jhs.private> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mx.bulinfo.net Cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Real and available memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 08:30:12 -0000 Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Krassimir Slavchev wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I have Vortex86-6082 with 128Mb AMI bios. >> >> Why the kernel reports only 80 MB available memory? >> Is this related to BIOS or kernel settings? >> >> dmesg output: >> >> Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project. >> Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 >> The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. >> FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #0: Wed Jul 26 10:09:06 EEST 2006 >> root@krassi:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TINYBSD >> Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 >> CPU: Pentium (166.61-MHz 586-class CPU) >> Origin = "SiS SiS SiS " Id = 0x505 >> real memory = 125829120 (120 MB) >> avail memory = 84332544 (80 MB) >> kbd1 at kbdmux0 >> ... >> > > > Does the mboard BIOS on monitor at boot recognise all 128 M ? > > I've seen boards that only recognised 1/4 of the SIM size. > 80 seems a bit of an odd (non hex) number though. > > Yes, at boot the board recognizes 128Mb. The RAM is embedded on the board. The kernel reports real 120 Mb because maybe 8 Mb is used by video card. I don't know why exact 80Mb is reported but 80 = 64+16. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 9 08:42:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B393E16A4DA for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 08:42:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from thin.berklix.org (thin.berklix.org [194.246.123.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1460343D46 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 08:42:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from js.berklix.net (p549A5C57.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.92.87]) (authenticated bits=128) by thin.berklix.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k798fxXD007303; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 10:41:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from fire.jhs.private (fire.jhs.private [192.168.91.41]) by js.berklix.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k798fvne031769; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 10:41:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from fire.jhs.private (localhost.jhs.private [127.0.0.1]) by fire.jhs.private (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k798fvVW085838; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 10:41:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.jhs.private) Message-Id: <200608090841.k798fvVW085838@fire.jhs.private> To: Krassimir Slavchev In-Reply-To: Message from Krassimir Slavchev of "Wed, 09 Aug 2006 11:28:16 +0300." <44D99CA0.1030703@bulinfo.net> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 10:41:57 +0200 From: "Julian H. Stacey" Cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Real and available memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 08:42:02 -0000 Krassimir Slavchev wrote: > Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Krassimir Slavchev wrote: > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> I have Vortex86-6082 with 128Mb AMI bios. > >> > >> Why the kernel reports only 80 MB available memory? > >> Is this related to BIOS or kernel settings? > >> > >> dmesg output: > >> > >> Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project. > >> Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > >> The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > >> FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #0: Wed Jul 26 10:09:06 EEST 2006 > >> root@krassi:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TINYBSD > >> Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 > >> CPU: Pentium (166.61-MHz 586-class CPU) > >> Origin = "SiS SiS SiS " Id = 0x505 > >> real memory = 125829120 (120 MB) > >> avail memory = 84332544 (80 MB) > >> kbd1 at kbdmux0 > >> ... > >> > > > > > > Does the mboard BIOS on monitor at boot recognise all 128 M ? > > > > I've seen boards that only recognised 1/4 of the SIM size. > > 80 seems a bit of an odd (non hex) number though. > > > > > Yes, at boot the board recognizes 128Mb. The RAM is embedded on the board. > The kernel reports real 120 Mb because maybe 8 Mb is used by video card. > I don't know why exact 80Mb is reported but 80 = 64+16. Have you tried unplugging every board (inc. ethernet scsi raid etc) & plugging in a different (modest, old as possible. less demanding) graphic card ? Maybe that'd give a clue, maybe your graphics card is taking more than 8M ? -- Julian Stacey. Unix & C Consultant, Munich / Muenchen http://berklix.com Mail in Ascii, not HTML. Ihr Rauch = mein allergischer Kopfschmerz. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 9 08:48:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2992B16A4DF for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 08:48:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from krassi@bulinfo.net) Received: from mx.bulinfo.net (mx.bulinfo.net [193.194.156.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C0F43D7F for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 08:48:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krassi@bulinfo.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx.bulinfo.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E0511DB8A; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 11:48:29 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mx.bulinfo.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx.bulinfo.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 84000-02; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 11:48:25 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.2.188] (pythia.bulinfo.net [212.72.195.5]) by mx.bulinfo.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94C1B1DB4F; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 11:48:25 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <44D9A0E9.30608@bulinfo.net> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 11:46:33 +0300 From: Krassimir Slavchev User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Julian H. Stacey" References: <200608090841.k798fvVW085838@fire.jhs.private> In-Reply-To: <200608090841.k798fvVW085838@fire.jhs.private> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mx.bulinfo.net Cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Real and available memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 08:48:39 -0000 Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Krassimir Slavchev wrote: > >> Julian H. Stacey wrote: >> >>> Krassimir Slavchev wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I have Vortex86-6082 with 128Mb AMI bios. >>>> >>>> Why the kernel reports only 80 MB available memory? >>>> Is this related to BIOS or kernel settings? >>>> >>>> dmesg output: >>>> >>>> Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project. >>>> Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 >>>> The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. >>>> FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #0: Wed Jul 26 10:09:06 EEST 2006 >>>> root@krassi:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TINYBSD >>>> Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 >>>> CPU: Pentium (166.61-MHz 586-class CPU) >>>> Origin = "SiS SiS SiS " Id = 0x505 >>>> real memory = 125829120 (120 MB) >>>> avail memory = 84332544 (80 MB) >>>> kbd1 at kbdmux0 >>>> ... >>>> >>>> >>> Does the mboard BIOS on monitor at boot recognise all 128 M ? >>> >>> I've seen boards that only recognised 1/4 of the SIM size. >>> 80 seems a bit of an odd (non hex) number though. >>> >>> >>> >> Yes, at boot the board recognizes 128Mb. The RAM is embedded on the board. >> The kernel reports real 120 Mb because maybe 8 Mb is used by video card. >> I don't know why exact 80Mb is reported but 80 = 64+16. >> > > Have you tried unplugging every board (inc. ethernet scsi raid etc) > & plugging in a different (modest, old as possible. less demanding) > graphic card ? Maybe that'd give a clue, maybe your graphics card > is taking more than 8M ? > > No, I can't unplug anything, see: http://www.icop.com.tw/products_detail.asp?ProductID=119 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 9 09:08:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1150F16A4DE for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 09:08:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from thin.berklix.org (thin.berklix.org [194.246.123.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5BBC43D68 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 09:08:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from js.berklix.net (p549A7506.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.117.6]) (authenticated bits=128) by thin.berklix.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k7998DLS007343; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 11:08:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from fire.jhs.private (fire.jhs.private [192.168.91.41]) by js.berklix.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k79988vH031845; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 11:08:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from fire.jhs.private (localhost.jhs.private [127.0.0.1]) by fire.jhs.private (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k79988pY086073; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 11:08:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.jhs.private) Message-Id: <200608090908.k79988pY086073@fire.jhs.private> To: Krassimir Slavchev From: "Julian Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix C Net Consultancy, Munich/Muenchen User-agent: EXMH http://beedub.com/exmh/ on FreeBSD http://freebsd.org X-URL: http://berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 09 Aug 2006 11:46:33 +0300." <44D9A0E9.30608@bulinfo.net> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 11:08:08 +0200 Sender: jhs@flat.berklix.net Cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Real and available memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 09:08:22 -0000 Reference: > From: Krassimir Slavchev > Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 11:46:33 +0300 > Message-id: <44D9A0E9.30608@bulinfo.net> Krassimir Slavchev wrote: > Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Krassimir Slavchev wrote: > > > >> Julian H. Stacey wrote: > >> > >>> Krassimir Slavchev wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> Hello, > >>>> > >>>> I have Vortex86-6082 with 128Mb AMI bios. > >>>> > >>>> Why the kernel reports only 80 MB available memory? > >>>> Is this related to BIOS or kernel settings? > >>>> > >>>> dmesg output: > >>>> > >>>> Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project. > >>>> Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > >>>> The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > >>>> FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #0: Wed Jul 26 10:09:06 EEST 2006 > >>>> root@krassi:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TINYBSD > >>>> Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 > >>>> CPU: Pentium (166.61-MHz 586-class CPU) > >>>> Origin = "SiS SiS SiS " Id = 0x505 > >>>> real memory = 125829120 (120 MB) > >>>> avail memory = 84332544 (80 MB) > >>>> kbd1 at kbdmux0 > >>>> ... > >>>> > >>>> > >>> Does the mboard BIOS on monitor at boot recognise all 128 M ? > >>> > >>> I've seen boards that only recognised 1/4 of the SIM size. > >>> 80 seems a bit of an odd (non hex) number though. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> Yes, at boot the board recognizes 128Mb. The RAM is embedded on the board. > >> The kernel reports real 120 Mb because maybe 8 Mb is used by video card. > >> I don't know why exact 80Mb is reported but 80 = 64+16. > >> > > > > Have you tried unplugging every board (inc. ethernet scsi raid etc) > > & plugging in a different (modest, old as possible. less demanding) > > graphic card ? Maybe that'd give a clue, maybe your graphics card > > is taking more than 8M ? > > > > > No, I can't unplug anything, see: > http://www.icop.com.tw/products_detail.asp?ProductID=119 Interesting little board, (might be of interest to other freebsd.org mail lists eg small, real time ). That URL specifies 128MB SDRAM ... AGP Rev.2.0 compliant Shared system memory up to 64MB (Default 8 MB) Maybe BIOS is no longer defaulting to 8 Meg ? Checkable / Settable in BIOS ? -- Julian Stacey. Unix & C Consultant, Munich / Muenchen http://berklix.com Mail in Ascii, not HTML. Ihr Rauch = mein allergischer Kopfschmerz. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 9 09:27:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 123EF16A4E1 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 09:27:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scott.wilson@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B68343D49 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 09:27:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scott.wilson@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g2so108122nfe for ; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 02:27:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Wd4PQhCV5CMFiYxVzo1dC/IyCp5OskbRgSh71Af4qKDFp6Hg3huwW7d5MJrYqrWtFVwrWTxDZzIR+dIGxyExxwquQyp22AH0E4PRlg2FpCzQhpuxHepaVfM/r5cgZ/jnPy8p4xJVu8lWKdPlK0SRz+Fx+3O1wk4wn0GIpVckKKI= Received: by 10.78.170.6 with SMTP id s6mr246810hue; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 02:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.70.10 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 02:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 11:27:47 +0200 From: "Scott Wilson" To: hardware@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: ukbd0 from dell DRAC5 remote access controller X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 09:27:50 -0000 Hi, I'm trying to get the keyboard emulation part of Dell's DRAC5 remote access controller working with freebsd. This is 6.1-RELEASE-p3 and running amd64 port. Can anyone shed some light? relevant dmesg messages: ---- pe1# cat /var/log/dmesg.today | grep kbd kbd0 at kbdmux0 ukbd0: Dell DRAC5, rev 1.10/0.00, addr 3, iclass 3/1 kbd1 at ukbd0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 trying to attach only that keyboard to the console: ---- pe1# kbdcontrol -k /dev/ukbd0 < /dev/console kbdcontrol: cannot open /dev/ukbd0: Device busy trying to add it to the mux: ---- pe1# kbdcontrol -K < /dev/console kbd0 kbdmux0, type:AT 101/102 (2) pe1# kbdcontrol -a kbd0 < /dev/kbdmux0 /dev/kbdmux0: Device busy. pe1# kbdcontrol -a kbd1 < /dev/kbdmux0 /dev/kbdmux0: Device busy. pe1# kbdcontrol -k /dev/kbdmux0 < /dev/console kbdcontrol: cannot open /dev/kbdmux0: Device busy trying to get info on the keyboards: ---- pe1# kbdcontrol -i < /dev/kbdmux0 /dev/kbdmux0: Device busy. pe1# kbdcontrol -i < /dev/ukbd0 /dev/ukbd0: Device busy. pe1# kbdcontrol -i < /dev/kbd0 /dev/kbd0: Device busy. pe1# kbdcontrol -i < /dev/console kbd0: kbdmux0, type:AT 101/102 (2) Am I missing something? Any suggestions? thanks! scott From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 9 10:15:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F27E216A5D6 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 10:15:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from krassi@bulinfo.net) Received: from mx.bulinfo.net (mx.bulinfo.net [193.194.156.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9C143D46 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 10:15:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krassi@bulinfo.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx.bulinfo.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 828981DC7F; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 13:15:35 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mx.bulinfo.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx.bulinfo.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 90906-01; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 13:15:32 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.2.188] (pythia.bulinfo.net [212.72.195.5]) by mx.bulinfo.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 681491DC76; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 13:15:32 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <44D9B553.6030003@bulinfo.net> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 13:13:39 +0300 From: Krassimir Slavchev User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Julian Stacey References: <200608090908.k79988pY086073@fire.jhs.private> In-Reply-To: <200608090908.k79988pY086073@fire.jhs.private> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mx.bulinfo.net Cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Real and available memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 10:15:38 -0000 Julian Stacey wrote: > Reference: > >> From: Krassimir Slavchev >> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 11:46:33 +0300 >> Message-id: <44D9A0E9.30608@bulinfo.net> >> > > Krassimir Slavchev wrote: > >> Julian H. Stacey wrote: >> >>> Krassimir Slavchev wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Julian H. Stacey wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Krassimir Slavchev wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have Vortex86-6082 with 128Mb AMI bios. >>>>>> >>>>>> Why the kernel reports only 80 MB available memory? >>>>>> Is this related to BIOS or kernel settings? >>>>>> >>>>>> dmesg output: >>>>>> >>>>>> Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project. >>>>>> Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 >>>>>> The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. >>>>>> FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #0: Wed Jul 26 10:09:06 EEST 2006 >>>>>> root@krassi:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TINYBSD >>>>>> Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 >>>>>> CPU: Pentium (166.61-MHz 586-class CPU) >>>>>> Origin = "SiS SiS SiS " Id = 0x505 >>>>>> real memory = 125829120 (120 MB) >>>>>> avail memory = 84332544 (80 MB) >>>>>> kbd1 at kbdmux0 >>>>>> ... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Does the mboard BIOS on monitor at boot recognise all 128 M ? >>>>> >>>>> I've seen boards that only recognised 1/4 of the SIM size. >>>>> 80 seems a bit of an odd (non hex) number though. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Yes, at boot the board recognizes 128Mb. The RAM is embedded on the board. >>>> The kernel reports real 120 Mb because maybe 8 Mb is used by video card. >>>> I don't know why exact 80Mb is reported but 80 = 64+16. >>>> >>>> >>> Have you tried unplugging every board (inc. ethernet scsi raid etc) >>> & plugging in a different (modest, old as possible. less demanding) >>> graphic card ? Maybe that'd give a clue, maybe your graphics card >>> is taking more than 8M ? >>> >>> >>> >> No, I can't unplug anything, see: >> http://www.icop.com.tw/products_detail.asp?ProductID=119 >> > > Interesting little board, (might be of interest to other freebsd.org > mail lists eg small, real time ). > > That URL specifies > 128MB SDRAM > ... > AGP Rev.2.0 compliant > Shared system memory up to 64MB (Default 8 MB) > Maybe BIOS is no longer defaulting to 8 Meg ? > Checkable / Settable in BIOS ? > > I can't find anything related to video memory in the BIOS but it seems to be correct real memory = 120 Mb reported by the kernel. My question is why the available memory is only 80Mb? From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 9 12:33:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB9EE16A4DD for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 12:33:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA26E43D4C for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 12:33:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from zion.baldwin.cx (zion.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.7]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k79CXCxo060243; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 08:33:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 08:32:52 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608090832.52859.jhb@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.1]); Wed, 09 Aug 2006 08:33:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1641/Tue Aug 8 19:01:19 2006 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: Scott Wilson Subject: Re: ukbd0 from dell DRAC5 remote access controller X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 12:33:16 -0000 On Wednesday 09 August 2006 05:27, Scott Wilson wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to get the keyboard emulation part of Dell's DRAC5 remote > access controller working with freebsd. This is 6.1-RELEASE-p3 and > running amd64 port. Can anyone shed some light? > > relevant dmesg messages: > ---- > pe1# cat /var/log/dmesg.today | grep kbd > kbd0 at kbdmux0 > ukbd0: Dell DRAC5, rev 1.10/0.00, addr 3, iclass 3/1 > kbd1 at ukbd0 > atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 > > trying to attach only that keyboard to the console: > ---- > pe1# kbdcontrol -k /dev/ukbd0 < /dev/console > kbdcontrol: cannot open /dev/ukbd0: Device busy > > trying to add it to the mux: > ---- > pe1# kbdcontrol -K < /dev/console > kbd0 > kbdmux0, type:AT 101/102 (2) > pe1# kbdcontrol -a kbd0 < /dev/kbdmux0 > /dev/kbdmux0: Device busy. > pe1# kbdcontrol -a kbd1 < /dev/kbdmux0 > /dev/kbdmux0: Device busy. > pe1# kbdcontrol -k /dev/kbdmux0 < /dev/console > kbdcontrol: cannot open /dev/kbdmux0: Device busy > > trying to get info on the keyboards: > ---- > pe1# kbdcontrol -i < /dev/kbdmux0 > /dev/kbdmux0: Device busy. > pe1# kbdcontrol -i < /dev/ukbd0 > /dev/ukbd0: Device busy. > pe1# kbdcontrol -i < /dev/kbd0 > /dev/kbd0: Device busy. > pe1# kbdcontrol -i < /dev/console > kbd0: > kbdmux0, type:AT 101/102 (2) > > > Am I missing something? Any suggestions? kbd0 is the keyboard mux, and kbd1 (the USB keyboard) is already attached to the mux during boot. So, it should be working already. If you want to use ukbd0 by itself, you'll need to detach it from the mux first and then attach it to the console. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 9 12:33:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B97116A4DF for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 12:33:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745A143D58 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 12:33:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from zion.baldwin.cx (zion.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.7]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k79CXCxn060243; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 08:33:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 08:32:29 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <200608090908.k79988pY086073@fire.jhs.private> <44D9B553.6030003@bulinfo.net> In-Reply-To: <44D9B553.6030003@bulinfo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608090832.30259.jhb@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.1]); Wed, 09 Aug 2006 08:33:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1641/Tue Aug 8 19:01:19 2006 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: Julian Stacey Subject: Re: Real and available memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 12:33:30 -0000 On Wednesday 09 August 2006 06:13, Krassimir Slavchev wrote: > Julian Stacey wrote: > > Reference: > > > >> From: Krassimir Slavchev > >> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 11:46:33 +0300 > >> Message-id: <44D9A0E9.30608@bulinfo.net> > >> > > > > Krassimir Slavchev wrote: > > > >> Julian H. Stacey wrote: > >> > >>> Krassimir Slavchev wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> Julian H. Stacey wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Krassimir Slavchev wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Hello, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I have Vortex86-6082 with 128Mb AMI bios. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Why the kernel reports only 80 MB available memory? > >>>>>> Is this related to BIOS or kernel settings? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> dmesg output: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project. > >>>>>> Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > >>>>>> The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > >>>>>> FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #0: Wed Jul 26 10:09:06 EEST 2006 > >>>>>> root@krassi:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TINYBSD > >>>>>> Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 > >>>>>> CPU: Pentium (166.61-MHz 586-class CPU) > >>>>>> Origin = "SiS SiS SiS " Id = 0x505 > >>>>>> real memory = 125829120 (120 MB) > >>>>>> avail memory = 84332544 (80 MB) > >>>>>> kbd1 at kbdmux0 > >>>>>> ... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> Does the mboard BIOS on monitor at boot recognise all 128 M ? > >>>>> > >>>>> I've seen boards that only recognised 1/4 of the SIM size. > >>>>> 80 seems a bit of an odd (non hex) number though. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> Yes, at boot the board recognizes 128Mb. The RAM is embedded on the board. > >>>> The kernel reports real 120 Mb because maybe 8 Mb is used by video card. > >>>> I don't know why exact 80Mb is reported but 80 = 64+16. > >>>> > >>>> > >>> Have you tried unplugging every board (inc. ethernet scsi raid etc) > >>> & plugging in a different (modest, old as possible. less demanding) > >>> graphic card ? Maybe that'd give a clue, maybe your graphics card > >>> is taking more than 8M ? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> No, I can't unplug anything, see: > >> http://www.icop.com.tw/products_detail.asp?ProductID=119 > >> > > > > Interesting little board, (might be of interest to other freebsd.org > > mail lists eg small, real time ). > > > > That URL specifies > > 128MB SDRAM > > ... > > AGP Rev.2.0 compliant > > Shared system memory up to 64MB (Default 8 MB) > > Maybe BIOS is no longer defaulting to 8 Meg ? > > Checkable / Settable in BIOS ? > > > > > I can't find anything related to video memory in the BIOS but it seems > to be correct > real memory = 120 Mb reported by the kernel. > My question is why the available memory is only 80Mb? Are you using an MFS root or a really large kernel? -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 9 12:47:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EDBB16A4DE; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 12:47:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from krassi@bulinfo.net) Received: from mx.bulinfo.net (mx.bulinfo.net [193.194.156.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A68943D45; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 12:47:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krassi@bulinfo.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx.bulinfo.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB7F1DE2B; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 15:46:59 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mx.bulinfo.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx.bulinfo.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 99776-04; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 15:46:58 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.2.188] (pythia.bulinfo.net [212.72.195.5]) by mx.bulinfo.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03DA71DE28; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 15:46:57 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <44D9D8D0.1020704@bulinfo.net> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 15:45:04 +0300 From: Krassimir Slavchev User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Baldwin References: <200608090908.k79988pY086073@fire.jhs.private> <44D9B553.6030003@bulinfo.net> <200608090832.30259.jhb@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <200608090832.30259.jhb@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mx.bulinfo.net Cc: Julian Stacey , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Real and available memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 12:47:03 -0000 John Baldwin wrote: > On Wednesday 09 August 2006 06:13, Krassimir Slavchev wrote: > >> Julian Stacey wrote: >> >>> Reference: >>> >>> >>>> From: Krassimir Slavchev >>>> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 11:46:33 +0300 >>>> Message-id: <44D9A0E9.30608@bulinfo.net> >>>> >>>> >>> Krassimir Slavchev wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Julian H. Stacey wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Krassimir Slavchev wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Julian H. Stacey wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Krassimir Slavchev wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have Vortex86-6082 with 128Mb AMI bios. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Why the kernel reports only 80 MB available memory? >>>>>>>> Is this related to BIOS or kernel settings? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> dmesg output: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project. >>>>>>>> Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 >>>>>>>> The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. >>>>>>>> FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #0: Wed Jul 26 10:09:06 EEST 2006 >>>>>>>> root@krassi:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TINYBSD >>>>>>>> Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 >>>>>>>> CPU: Pentium (166.61-MHz 586-class CPU) >>>>>>>> Origin = "SiS SiS SiS " Id = 0x505 >>>>>>>> real memory = 125829120 (120 MB) >>>>>>>> avail memory = 84332544 (80 MB) >>>>>>>> kbd1 at kbdmux0 >>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Does the mboard BIOS on monitor at boot recognise all 128 M ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've seen boards that only recognised 1/4 of the SIM size. >>>>>>> 80 seems a bit of an odd (non hex) number though. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, at boot the board recognizes 128Mb. The RAM is embedded on the board. >>>>>> The kernel reports real 120 Mb because maybe 8 Mb is used by video card. >>>>>> I don't know why exact 80Mb is reported but 80 = 64+16. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Have you tried unplugging every board (inc. ethernet scsi raid etc) >>>>> & plugging in a different (modest, old as possible. less demanding) >>>>> graphic card ? Maybe that'd give a clue, maybe your graphics card >>>>> is taking more than 8M ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> No, I can't unplug anything, see: >>>> http://www.icop.com.tw/products_detail.asp?ProductID=119 >>>> >>>> >>> Interesting little board, (might be of interest to other freebsd.org >>> mail lists eg small, real time ). >>> >>> That URL specifies >>> 128MB SDRAM >>> ... >>> AGP Rev.2.0 compliant >>> Shared system memory up to 64MB (Default 8 MB) >>> Maybe BIOS is no longer defaulting to 8 Meg ? >>> Checkable / Settable in BIOS ? >>> >>> >>> >> I can't find anything related to video memory in the BIOS but it seems >> to be correct >> real memory = 120 Mb reported by the kernel. >> My question is why the available memory is only 80Mb? >> > > Are you using an MFS root or a really large kernel? > > Yes, MFS root is 32 Mb and kernel is ~3.4Mb From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 9 20:23:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2851516A4DD for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 20:23:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96EEC43D55 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 20:23:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from zion.baldwin.cx (zion.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.7]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k79KNY5h066049; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 16:23:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: Krassimir Slavchev Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 14:31:49 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <200608090908.k79988pY086073@fire.jhs.private> <200608090832.30259.jhb@freebsd.org> <44D9D8D0.1020704@bulinfo.net> In-Reply-To: <44D9D8D0.1020704@bulinfo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608091431.50183.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.1]); Wed, 09 Aug 2006 16:23:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1642/Wed Aug 9 10:30:49 2006 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: Julian Stacey , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Real and available memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 20:23:51 -0000 On Wednesday 09 August 2006 08:45, Krassimir Slavchev wrote: > John Baldwin wrote: > > On Wednesday 09 August 2006 06:13, Krassimir Slavchev wrote: > > > >> Julian Stacey wrote: > >> > >>> Reference: > >>> > >>> > >>>> From: Krassimir Slavchev > >>>> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 11:46:33 +0300 > >>>> Message-id: <44D9A0E9.30608@bulinfo.net> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> Krassimir Slavchev wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> Julian H. Stacey wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Krassimir Slavchev wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Julian H. Stacey wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Krassimir Slavchev wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hello, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I have Vortex86-6082 with 128Mb AMI bios. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Why the kernel reports only 80 MB available memory? > >>>>>>>> Is this related to BIOS or kernel settings? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> dmesg output: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project. > >>>>>>>> Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > >>>>>>>> The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > >>>>>>>> FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #0: Wed Jul 26 10:09:06 EEST 2006 > >>>>>>>> root@krassi:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TINYBSD > >>>>>>>> Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 > >>>>>>>> CPU: Pentium (166.61-MHz 586-class CPU) > >>>>>>>> Origin = "SiS SiS SiS " Id = 0x505 > >>>>>>>> real memory = 125829120 (120 MB) > >>>>>>>> avail memory = 84332544 (80 MB) > >>>>>>>> kbd1 at kbdmux0 > >>>>>>>> ... > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Does the mboard BIOS on monitor at boot recognise all 128 M ? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I've seen boards that only recognised 1/4 of the SIM size. > >>>>>>> 80 seems a bit of an odd (non hex) number though. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> Yes, at boot the board recognizes 128Mb. The RAM is embedded on the board. > >>>>>> The kernel reports real 120 Mb because maybe 8 Mb is used by video card. > >>>>>> I don't know why exact 80Mb is reported but 80 = 64+16. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> Have you tried unplugging every board (inc. ethernet scsi raid etc) > >>>>> & plugging in a different (modest, old as possible. less demanding) > >>>>> graphic card ? Maybe that'd give a clue, maybe your graphics card > >>>>> is taking more than 8M ? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> No, I can't unplug anything, see: > >>>> http://www.icop.com.tw/products_detail.asp?ProductID=119 > >>>> > >>>> > >>> Interesting little board, (might be of interest to other freebsd.org > >>> mail lists eg small, real time ). > >>> > >>> That URL specifies > >>> 128MB SDRAM > >>> ... > >>> AGP Rev.2.0 compliant > >>> Shared system memory up to 64MB (Default 8 MB) > >>> Maybe BIOS is no longer defaulting to 8 Meg ? > >>> Checkable / Settable in BIOS ? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> I can't find anything related to video memory in the BIOS but it seems > >> to be correct > >> real memory = 120 Mb reported by the kernel. > >> My question is why the available memory is only 80Mb? > >> > > > > Are you using an MFS root or a really large kernel? > > > > > Yes, MFS root is 32 Mb and kernel is ~3.4Mb Well, that's where the missing 40 meg is. :) The kernel text (including any modules and preloaded mfsroot's) aren't include in the 'avail memory' count. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 9 20:29:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E8CB16A4DD for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 20:29:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j_guojun@lbl.gov) Received: from smtp104.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp104.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2CDE543D45 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 20:29:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from j_guojun@lbl.gov) Received: (qmail 76233 invoked from network); 9 Aug 2006 20:29:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.8?) (jinmtb@sbcglobal.net@68.127.183.0 with plain) by smtp104.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Aug 2006 20:29:16 -0000 Message-ID: <44DA45FA.3060306@lbl.gov> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 13:30:50 -0700 From: "Jin Guojun [VFFS]" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050108 X-Accept-Language: en, zh, zh-CN MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Krassimir Slavchev References: <200608090908.k79988pY086073@fire.jhs.private> <44D9B553.6030003@bulinfo.net> In-Reply-To: <44D9B553.6030003@bulinfo.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Julian Stacey , hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Real and available memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 20:29:17 -0000 Krassimir Slavchev wrote: > ........ > >> > > I can't find anything related to video memory in the BIOS but it seems > to be correct > real memory = 120 Mb reported by the kernel. > My question is why the available memory is only 80Mb? Have every body looked your computer to see how many avaiable memory is there? 80 is a round-up number in 6.x release. I think it looks normal to me. It really depends on how the system is configured. Beside kernel memory, there is a number of wired memory blocks, which take away available memory. Below are some systems I can access -- (1) difference is 33MB FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE #1: Mon Dec 26 22:56:54 PST 2005 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2100+ (1733.41-MHz 686-class CPU) ... real memory = 1073721344 (1048556K bytes) avail memory = 1039896576 (1015524K bytes) (2) difference is 28MB FreeBSD 6.1 CPU: AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-34 (1790.83-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x20f42 Stepping = 2 ... real memory = 501874688 (478 MB) avail memory = 472735744 (450 MB) (3) difference is 340 MB Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.06GHz hw.physmem: 2142212096 hw.usermem: 1785118720 -- ------------ Jin Guojun ----------- v --- jin@george.lbl.gov --- Distributed Systems Department http://www.dsd.lbl.gov/~jin Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, Berkeley, CA 94720 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 9 20:32:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A988116A4DA for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 20:32:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j_guojun@lbl.gov) Received: from smtp104.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp104.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 02FD343D78 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 20:32:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from j_guojun@lbl.gov) Received: (qmail 85260 invoked from network); 9 Aug 2006 20:32:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.8?) (jinmtb@sbcglobal.net@68.127.183.0 with plain) by smtp104.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Aug 2006 20:32:50 -0000 Message-ID: <44DA46D3.3040504@lbl.gov> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 13:34:27 -0700 From: "Jin Guojun [VFFS]" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050108 X-Accept-Language: en, zh, zh-CN To: John Baldwin References: <200608090908.k79988pY086073@fire.jhs.private> <200608090832.30259.jhb@freebsd.org> <44D9D8D0.1020704@bulinfo.net> <200608091431.50183.jhb@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <200608091431.50183.jhb@freebsd.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Julian Stacey , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Real and available memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 20:32:56 -0000 John Baldwin wrote: On Wednesday 09 August 2006 08:45, Krassimir Slavchev wrote: John Baldwin wrote: On Wednesday 09 August 2006 06:13, Krassimir Slavchev wrote: Julian Stacey wrote: Reference: From: Krassimir Slavchev [1] Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 11:46:33 +0300 Message-id: [2]<44D9A0E9.30608@bulinfo.net> Krassimir Slavchev wrote: Julian H. Stacey wrote: Krassimir Slavchev wrote: Julian H. Stacey wrote: Krassimir Slavchev wrote: Hello, I have Vortex86-6082 with 128Mb AMI bios. Why the kernel reports only 80 MB available memory? Is this related to BIOS or kernel settings? dmesg output: Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #0: Wed Jul 26 10:09:06 EEST 2006 root@krassi:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TINYBSD Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Pentium (166.61-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "SiS SiS SiS " Id = 0x505 real memory = 125829120 (120 MB) avail memory = 84332544 (80 MB) kbd1 at kbdmux0 ... ... Are you using an MFS root or a really large kernel? Yes, MFS root is 32 Mb and kernel is ~3.4Mb Well, that's where the missing 40 meg is. :) The kernel text (including any modules and preloaded mfsroot's) aren't include in the 'avail memory' count. This is not where the memory goes. The MFS root is probably not allocated yet at this point. -- ------------ Jin Guojun ----------- v --- [3]jin@george.lbl.gov --- Distributed Systems Department [4]http://www.dsd.lbl.gov/~jin Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, Berkeley, CA 94720 References 1. mailto:krassi@bulinfo.net 2. mailto:44D9A0E9.30608@bulinfo.net 3. mailto:jin@george.lbl.gov 4. http://www.dsd.lbl.gov/~jin From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 9 20:50:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED3116A4DD; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 20:50:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from thin.berklix.org (thin.berklix.org [194.246.123.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BBBD43D49; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 20:50:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from js.berklix.net (p549A652B.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.101.43]) (authenticated bits=128) by thin.berklix.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k79KnwfX012226; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 22:50:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from fire.jhs.private (fire.jhs.private [192.168.91.41]) by js.berklix.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k79Knuc3033186; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 22:49:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from fire.jhs.private (localhost.jhs.private [127.0.0.1]) by fire.jhs.private (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k79Knu1N089081; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 22:49:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.jhs.private) Message-Id: <200608092049.k79Knu1N089081@fire.jhs.private> To: "Jin Guojun [VFFS]" In-Reply-To: Message from "Jin Guojun [VFFS]" of "Wed, 09 Aug 2006 13:34:27 PDT." <44DA46D3.3040504@lbl.gov> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 22:49:56 +0200 From: "Julian H. Stacey" Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Real and available memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 20:50:07 -0000 > Well, that's where the missing 40 meg is. :) The kernel text (including > any modules and preloaded mfsroot's) aren't include in the 'avail memory' > count. > > > > This is not where the memory goes.
> The MFS root is probably not allocated yet at this point.
Sounded about the right size though, & was nice to think John had found the answer :-) Krassimir could test the assertion by adjusting the mfsroot size a bit, rebooting, & observing dmesg change & reporting back, would be interesting to know for sure. -- Julian Stacey. Unix & C Consultant, Munich / Muenchen http://berklix.com Mail in Ascii, not HTML. Ihr Rauch = mein allergischer Kopfschmerz. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 9 21:12:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C92016A4DF for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 21:12:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E20AD43D4C for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 21:12:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from zion.baldwin.cx (zion.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.7]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k79LCp7L066329; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 17:12:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: "Jin Guojun [VFFS]" Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 17:12:47 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <200608090908.k79988pY086073@fire.jhs.private> <200608091431.50183.jhb@freebsd.org> <44DA46D3.3040504@lbl.gov> In-Reply-To: <44DA46D3.3040504@lbl.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608091712.48401.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.1]); Wed, 09 Aug 2006 17:12:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1642/Wed Aug 9 10:30:49 2006 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: Julian Stacey , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Real and available memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 21:12:57 -0000 On Wednesday 09 August 2006 16:34, Jin Guojun [VFFS] wrote: Please don't use HTML-only e-mail. >> Well, that's where the missing 40 meg is. :) The kernel text (including >> any modules and preloaded mfsroot's) aren't include in the 'avail memory' >> count. > > This is not where the memory goes. > The MFS root is probably not allocated yet at this point. Huh? Of course it is! You load it from /boot/loader into RAM at the same point when you load the kernel. All of the kernel text plus any loaded modules are not considered available memory when 'avail memory' is output. (Along with a few other pages needed for things like crashdumps, some VM bootstrapping data structures, etc.) You can't load a MFS root after the kernel is booted because if it's the root filesystem, there's no place for it to be loaded from once the kernel boots. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 9 23:11:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C9F016A521 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 23:11:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from om-lists-bsd@omx.ch) Received: from omega.omnis.ch (omega.omnis.ch [195.134.143.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3232243DDB for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 23:11:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from om-lists-bsd@omx.ch) Received: (qmail 11145 invoked from network); 9 Aug 2006 23:10:03 -0000 Received: from bigapple.omnis.ch ([195.134.148.35]) by omega.omnis.ch ([195.134.143.43]) with ESMTP via TCP; 09 Aug 2006 23:10:03 -0000 From: Olivier Mueller To: joe mcguckin In-Reply-To: <874E95E3-7B65-4704-BA5D-3086CC055111@via.net> References: <874E95E3-7B65-4704-BA5D-3086CC055111@via.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 01:11:13 +0200 Message-Id: <1155165073.22623.12.camel@bigapple.omnis.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dell 1950 won't cleanly reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 23:11:38 -0000 hello, On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 17:43 -0700, joe mcguckin wrote: > shutdown -r hangs most of the time. > I have a spare machine to lend someone in the SF bay area if that > would help... Have you made any progress on this issue yet? Thanks & regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 10 14:34:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A7E16A4DA for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 14:34:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FE2943D49 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 14:34:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from zion.baldwin.cx (zion.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.7]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k7AEYR8o073995; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 10:34:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 22:04:49 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <874E95E3-7B65-4704-BA5D-3086CC055111@via.net> <1154592248.6615.1.camel@bigapple.omnis.ch> In-Reply-To: <1154592248.6615.1.camel@bigapple.omnis.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608092204.50441.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.1]); Thu, 10 Aug 2006 10:34:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1644/Wed Aug 9 23:55:42 2006 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: joe mcguckin , Olivier Mueller Subject: Re: Dell 1950 won't cleanly reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 14:34:30 -0000 On Thursday 03 August 2006 04:04, Olivier Mueller wrote: > On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 17:43 -0700, joe mcguckin wrote: > > shutdown -r hangs most of the time. > > I can confirm the problem and I'm also still looking for a solution. > Cf. the thread started on 12.07: > > Subject: > dell poweredge 1950 : not rebooting > under 6.1 (sometimes) > Date: > Wed, 12 Jul 2006 11:44:28 +0200 1) Does this only happen if SMP is enabled? 2) If so, can you try http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/patches/shutdown.patch (Might want to try it even if it breaks with SMP disabled.) -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 10 18:32:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D6F916A4E2 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 18:32:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bjordan@lumeta.com) Received: from MAIL.corp.lumeta.com (h65-246-245-22.lumeta.com [65.246.245.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F388043D60 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 18:31:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bjordan@lumeta.com) x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 14:31:55 -0400 Message-ID: <78ED28FACE63744386D68D8A9D1CF5D410496E@MAIL.corp.lumeta.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: RE: PERC 5/E SAS RAID in Dell PowerEdge 1950/2950 Thread-Index: Aca8q0G56WWvSgI6TUiA1zZDwmD3xg== From: "Bucky Jordan" To: Subject: RE: PERC 5/E SAS RAID in Dell PowerEdge 1950/2950 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 18:32:01 -0000 Original message: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=3D40885+44951+/usr/local/www/= d b/text/2006/freebsd-hardware/20060625.freebsd-hardware >Does anyone have details about the new PERC 5/E SAS RAID controller Dell >is (or will soon be) shipping in the 1950/2950? I've got one in that I'm setting up/testing for postgres. >This replaces the long standing PERC4 (which was an OEM LSI / AMI >MegaRAID U320) in the [1,2]850 series. I've used the 2850 with FreeBSD/postgres, but didn't have the need at the time to do much tuning, so all I know is that it worked...=20 >Obviously this is an OEM chipset as well. I see it listed in mfi(4). >It appears to be backported into RELENG_6. I'm running 6.1 RELEASE amd64. It picked up the mfi device just fine, and even realized that it was a Perc5/i. However, that's about where the pleasantness ends. Here's the hardware: 2xDual Core 3.0 Ghz CPU (Xeon 5160- 1333Mhz FSB, 4 MB shared cache per socket) 8 GB RAM (DDR2, fully buffered, Dual Ranked, 667 Mhz) 6x300 10k RPM SAS drives Perc 5i w/256 MB battery backed cache DRAC5 (which I do see listed in dmesg). Here's my experience so far (please keep in mind I'm not a FreeBSD expert, so pointers on where I went wrong are appreciated). 1. The box came configured as a RAID 10 across all 6 disks. It appeared to do mirroring first, then striping. I ran the following: time bash -c "(dd if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dbigfile count=3D125000 bs=3D8k && = sync)" this returned ~117 MB/s, which seems a bit slow for 6 spindles. I also ran bonnie++ with similar results. Keep in mind just 1 of these SAS drives easily pumps out a sustained 75 MB/s read/write rate. 2. Thinking there might be a problem with the controller and complex RAID (this was discussed the Postgres performance mailing list), I tried a RAID 5 and RAID 0 config. This resulted in the following results, which seem more reasonable for the hardware: RAID5 (x4 disks) 1024000000 bytes transferred in 6.375067 secs (160625763 bytes/sec) RAID0 (x2 disks) 1024000000 bytes transferred in 7.392225 secs (138523922 bytes/sec) Both of the above numbers, while the RAID 5 is not stellar, look reasonable to me. 3. So initial conclusion was Perc5/I is crappy about multi levels of raid (10, 0+1, etc). However, a coworker suggested I test on Knoppix 5. Here's the results: RAID5 (x4 disks) ~270 MB/s with dd on ext2 (very close to theoretical max) RAID10 (4 disks) mixed results- anywhere from 148 MB/s to an unrealistic 700+ MB/s (which I attribute to caching in RAM, although issuing a sync should force it to disk.. odd) So I ran the following: bonnie++ -d bonnie -s 6600:8k and got ~100 Mb/s for sequential input I'm not sure why Knoppix is so much faster than BSD 6.1 amd64 on the 4 disk RAID 5 test, but I'm going to move forward and use all 6 disks in a RAID5 configuration. 4. During testing, I tried installing BSD on disk0, then setting up a RAID0 on disks 2 & 3, and a RAID1 on disks 4 & 5 for testing basic raid performance. Unfortunately, BSD was unable to recognize the other volumes. In dmesg, I would see mfid0, mifid1, and mfid2, but when I would try to mount them using sysinstall and the instructions in the handbook, FDisk did not see the correct sizes. Furthermore, I think it always pointed to mfid0. More specifically A: go to FDISK, select mfid0, partition 250GB /, remainder swap B: select mfid1, saw partitions created in (A)=20 C: select mfid2, saw partitions created in (A) Note: Steps A-C were performed on a freshly initialized RAID as described above. I have not had the chance to try the above RAID configuration on any other OS at this point. Sorry for the long post, but hopefully some of the above info will be useful. If anyone has suggestions for solutions to the multiple raid set issues (#4 above) or hints on tuning BSD I/O performance for RAID, I'd be interested. Thanks, Bucky From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 10 20:41:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA78316A4DD for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 20:41:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 084FE43D5C for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 20:41:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k7AKfc9C076210; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 16:41:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 16:38:09 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <78ED28FACE63744386D68D8A9D1CF5D410496E@MAIL.corp.lumeta.com> In-Reply-To: <78ED28FACE63744386D68D8A9D1CF5D410496E@MAIL.corp.lumeta.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608101638.10127.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 10 Aug 2006 16:41:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1644/Wed Aug 9 23:55:42 2006 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: Bucky Jordan Subject: Re: PERC 5/E SAS RAID in Dell PowerEdge 1950/2950 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 20:41:50 -0000 On Thursday 10 August 2006 14:31, Bucky Jordan wrote: > 3. So initial conclusion was Perc5/I is crappy about multi levels of > raid (10, 0+1, etc). However, a coworker suggested I test on Knoppix 5. > Here's the results: > RAID5 (x4 disks) > ~270 MB/s with dd on ext2 (very close to theoretical max) I can't help you on the performance stuff, though you might ask Scott Long (scottl@) as he had some suggestions. Apparently a newer mfi(4) firmware performs poorer with FreeBSD for reasons as yet unknown. > 4. During testing, I tried installing BSD on disk0, then setting up a > RAID0 on disks 2 & 3, and a RAID1 on disks 4 & 5 for testing basic raid > performance. Unfortunately, BSD was unable to recognize the other > volumes. In dmesg, I would see mfid0, mifid1, and mfid2, but when I > would try to mount them using sysinstall and the instructions in the > handbook, FDisk did not see the correct sizes. Furthermore, I think it > always pointed to mfid0. More specifically This should be fixed in 6-stable. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 11 06:05:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 429D316A4DD for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 06:05:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steven@mig15.net) Received: from mail.mig15.net (mail.mig15.net [150.101.230.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2CF643D49 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 06:05:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from steven@mig15.net) Received: from [10.0.0.161] (interlude.mig15.net [150.101.230.60]) by mail.mig15.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBD95450D6 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 15:35:04 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <44DC1E0F.5010100@mig15.net> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 15:35:03 +0930 From: Steven Wiltshire User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mig15.net-MailScanner-Information: MailScanner X-Mig15.net-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mig15.net-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-16.8, required 5, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -15.00) X-Mig15.net-MailScanner-From: steven@mig15.net Subject: Dell 1950 and LSI SAS problems. X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 06:05:19 -0000 Hi, I am experiencing problems with a Dell 1950 and FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE for i386. I recently purchased a Dell 1950 with the understanding it came with a Dell PERC5/i SAS adapter, and that this adapter was supported by the mfi driver found in 6.1-RELEASE. Unfortunately, the FreeBSD installation program does not detect any disk drives. The boot messages suggests an unidentified SCSI attached mass storage device was detected during boot, but there's no mention of anything to do with mfi, SAS, or PERC5/i. The machine is equipped with a CDROM and a single 73GB SAS drive. After some investigation I'm not sure if the server is actually equipped with a Dell PERC 5/i at all. When booting the computer, the SAS device is mentioned as being a "Dell SAS 5" and that it's copyrighted by LSI. The controller chip is an LSI SAS 1068. Again, there is no mention of a PERC5/i anywhere. I'm not entirely sure if Dell have not provided the hardware we were expecting, or if something is going wrong with the FreeBSD boot process, or if I'm doing something wrong - all I know is that I have a server that doesn't serve. Has anyone got any suggestions as to FreeBSD related troubleshooting, or am I best off taking this issue up with Dell? Cheers, --Steven From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 11 08:11:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8012816A4DA; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 08:11:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from krassi@bulinfo.net) Received: from mx.bulinfo.net (mx.bulinfo.net [193.194.156.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB14843D46; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 08:11:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krassi@bulinfo.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx.bulinfo.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC1B37AD9; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 11:11:12 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mx.bulinfo.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx.bulinfo.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21321-05; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 11:11:11 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.2.188] (pythia.bulinfo.net [212.72.195.5]) by mx.bulinfo.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F0C637AC5; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 11:11:11 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <44DC3B92.3010804@bulinfo.net> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 11:10:58 +0300 From: Krassimir Slavchev User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Baldwin References: <200608090908.k79988pY086073@fire.jhs.private> <200608091431.50183.jhb@freebsd.org> <44DA46D3.3040504@lbl.gov> <200608091712.48401.jhb@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <200608091712.48401.jhb@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mx.bulinfo.net Cc: Julian Stacey , "Jin Guojun \[VFFS\]" , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Real and available memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 08:11:15 -0000 John Baldwin wrote: > On Wednesday 09 August 2006 16:34, Jin Guojun [VFFS] wrote: > > Please don't use HTML-only e-mail. > > >>> Well, that's where the missing 40 meg is. :) The kernel text (including >>> any modules and preloaded mfsroot's) aren't include in the 'avail memory' >>> count. >>> >> This is not where the memory goes. >> The MFS root is probably not allocated yet at this point. >> > > Huh? Of course it is! You load it from /boot/loader into RAM at the same > point when you load the kernel. All of the kernel text plus any loaded > modules are not considered available memory when 'avail memory' is output. > (Along with a few other pages needed for things like crashdumps, some VM > bootstrapping data structures, etc.) You can't load a MFS root after the > kernel is booted because if it's the root filesystem, there's no place for > it to be loaded from once the kernel boots. > > Absolutely correct! I have decreased the size of mfsroot image with 4Mb and available memory is 4Mb up. Thanks for all replays From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 11 16:56:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C648016A4DE for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 16:56:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3776443D6B for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 16:56:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k7BGuIbq082536; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 12:56:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 12:17:24 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <44DC1E0F.5010100@mig15.net> In-Reply-To: <44DC1E0F.5010100@mig15.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608111217.25091.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 11 Aug 2006 12:56:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1646/Fri Aug 11 05:51:17 2006 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: Steven Wiltshire Subject: Re: Dell 1950 and LSI SAS problems. X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 16:56:21 -0000 On Friday 11 August 2006 02:05, Steven Wiltshire wrote: > Hi, > > I am experiencing problems with a Dell 1950 and FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE for > i386. > > I recently purchased a Dell 1950 with the understanding it came with a > Dell PERC5/i SAS adapter, and that this adapter was supported by the mfi > driver found in 6.1-RELEASE. > > Unfortunately, the FreeBSD installation program does not detect any disk > drives. The boot messages suggests an unidentified SCSI attached mass > storage device was detected during boot, but there's no mention of > anything to do with mfi, SAS, or PERC5/i. The machine is equipped with a > CDROM and a single 73GB SAS drive. > > After some investigation I'm not sure if the server is actually equipped > with a Dell PERC 5/i at all. > > When booting the computer, the SAS device is mentioned as being a "Dell > SAS 5" and that it's copyrighted by LSI. The controller chip is an LSI > SAS 1068. Again, there is no mention of a PERC5/i anywhere. > > I'm not entirely sure if Dell have not provided the hardware we were > expecting, or if something is going wrong with the FreeBSD boot process, > or if I'm doing something wrong - all I know is that I have a server > that doesn't serve. > > Has anyone got any suggestions as to FreeBSD related troubleshooting, or > am I best off taking this issue up with Dell? This might be an mpt(4) controller if it's not RAID. I would try a recent 6.1-STABLE snapshot. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 11 19:53:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDF1916A4DD for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 19:53:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reed@scit.us) Received: from memnon.scit.us (reedcartwright2.statgen.ncsu.edu [152.14.14.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C39243D46 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 19:53:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reed@scit.us) Received: from localhost (localhost.scit.us [127.0.0.1]) by memnon.scit.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id B44B91CE32 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 15:53:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at scit.us Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (memnon.scit.us [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KV23U+whwvz1 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 15:53:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from scit.us (localhost.scit.us [127.0.0.1]) by memnon.scit.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D97C1CE30 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 15:53:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 152.14.14.5 (SquirrelMail authenticated user reed) by scit.us with HTTP; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 15:53:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <61659.152.14.14.5.1155325989.squirrel@scit.us> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 15:53:09 -0400 (EDT) From: reed@scit.us To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Patch for Intel 5000X hardware (ata and ichsmb) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 19:53:25 -0000 Freebsd wouldn't recognize my hard drive contoler, so I modified a patch I found on the "stable" list, adding all the device ids I found in Intel's documentation. Please add this to the stable or current branch. Here is the patch, made with respect to 6.1-Release-p3 Index: sys/dev/ata/ata-chipset.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/dev/ata/ata-chipset.c,v retrieving revision 1.126.2.11 diff -u -r1.126.2.11 ata-chipset.c --- sys/dev/ata/ata-chipset.c 16 Mar 2006 21:28:51 -0000 1.126.2.11 +++ sys/dev/ata/ata-chipset.c 9 Aug 2006 20:28:30 -0000 @@ -1595,6 +1595,11 @@ { ATA_I82801GB_R1, 0, AHCI, 0x00, ATA_SA300, "ICH7" }, { ATA_I82801GB_M, 0, AHCI, 0x00, ATA_SA300, "ICH7" }, { ATA_I82801GB_AH, 0, AHCI, 0x00, ATA_SA300, "ICH7" }, + { ATA_I631xESB, 0, 0, 0x00, ATA_UDMA5, "631xESB" }, + { ATA_I631xESB_C1, 0, 0, 0x00, ATA_UDMA5, "631xESB" }, + { ATA_I631xESB_S1, 0, AHCI, 0x00, ATA_SA300, "631xESB" }, + { ATA_I631xESB_R1, 0, AHCI, 0x00, ATA_SA300, "631xESB" }, + { ATA_I631xESB_R2, 0, AHCI, 0x00, ATA_SA300, "631xESB" }, { ATA_I31244, 0, 0, 0x00, ATA_SA150, "31244" }, { 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0}}; char buffer[64]; Index: sys/dev/ata/ata-pci.h =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/dev/ata/ata-pci.h,v retrieving revision 1.49.2.8 diff -u -r1.49.2.8 ata-pci.h --- sys/dev/ata/ata-pci.h 16 Mar 2006 21:28:51 -0000 1.49.2.8 +++ sys/dev/ata/ata-pci.h 9 Aug 2006 20:28:30 -0000 @@ -148,6 +148,11 @@ #define ATA_I82801FB_S1 0x26518086 #define ATA_I82801FB_R1 0x26528086 #define ATA_I82801FB_M 0x26538086 +#define ATA_I631xESB_C1 0x26808086 +#define ATA_I631xESB_S1 0x26818086 +#define ATA_I631xESB_R1 0x26828086 +#define ATA_I631xESB_R2 0x26838086 +#define ATA_I631xESB 0x269e8086 #define ATA_I82801GB 0x27df8086 #define ATA_I82801GB_S1 0x27c08086 #define ATA_I82801GB_R1 0x27c38086 Index: sys/dev/ichsmb/ichsmb_pci.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/dev/ichsmb/ichsmb_pci.c,v retrieving revision 1.16.2.1 diff -u -r1.16.2.1 ichsmb_pci.c --- sys/dev/ichsmb/ichsmb_pci.c 19 Aug 2005 18:38:55 -0000 1.16.2.1 +++ sys/dev/ichsmb/ichsmb_pci.c 9 Aug 2006 20:28:31 -0000 @@ -74,6 +74,7 @@ #define ID_82801DC 0x24C38086 #define ID_82801EB 0x24D38086 #define ID_6300ESB 0x25a48086 +#define ID_631xESB 0x269b8086 #define PCIS_SERIALBUS_SMBUS_PROGIF 0x00 @@ -146,6 +147,9 @@ case ID_6300ESB: device_set_desc(dev, "Intel 6300ESB (ICH) SMBus controller"); break; + case ID_631xESB: + device_set_desc(dev, "Intel 631xESB (ESB2) SMBus controller"); + break; default: if (pci_get_class(dev) == PCIC_SERIALBUS && pci_get_subclass(dev) == PCIS_SERIALBUS_SMBUS