From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 12:14:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2ADD16A4DE; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 12:14:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johan@stromnet.org) Received: from pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.164]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3F043D6D; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 12:14:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from johan@stromnet.org) Received: from elfi.stromnet.org (213.67.205.103) by pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.2.075) id 44F2F2F7001AB2EB; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 14:14:10 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by elfi.stromnet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5025461DA6; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 14:14:09 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at stromnet.org Received: from elfi.stromnet.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (elfi.stromnet.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dkxTRwAVwhMH; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 14:14:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [172.28.2.101] (jstrom-mb.wlan.stromnet.org [172.28.2.101]) by elfi.stromnet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC40161D9E; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 14:14:08 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, garys@opusnet.com From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Str=F6m?= Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 14:13:26 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: Subject: FreeBSD with a Gigabyte GA-K8NSC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 12:14:16 -0000 Hi I'm about to get a "new" server... In this case what I'm looking at =20 is a Gigabyte GA-K8NSC mobo with nForce3 250Gb chipset, and a AMD 64 =20 3200+ Venice S939. Does anyone have any experience with FreeBSD (6.1) and this mobo/=20 chipset? Does the network work? How good? SATA? Any stability/=20 performance issues? I did notice it was mentioned on http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/=20 amd64/motherboards.html on 5.4 with the only comment "Sound and USB =20 untested.".. So.. anyone got more detailed experience than that? 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From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 05:12:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F4716A4DF for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 05:12:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Received: from ketralnis.com (melchoir.ketralnis.com [68.183.67.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6A7B43D49 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 05:12:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Received: from [10.0.1.239] (ayla.wifi.int.ketralnis.com [10.0.1.239]) (authenticated bits=0) by ketralnis.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k845CnBQ056566 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 22:12:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <3692C07B-CCCC-4756-9B33-6DA724481FF2@ketralnis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David King Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 22:12:45 -0700 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Subject: Re: Quiet computer X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 05:12:50 -0000 >> I am looking for a small computer that is silent or very quiet to sit >> in a home office. > I think you might want to wait a month or two until Intel Core 2 > "Conroe" and "Allendale" become more readily available. Indeed (less than a month later), a vendor called Shuttle just released this machine: They call it their X100 and it's just smaller than a cereal box. It has an Intel Core Duo in it. Does anyone have one of these by chance? Can anyone attest to the noise that it makes? Thanks for any information From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 17:17:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8571816A4DF for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 17:17:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mureninc@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 485F643D6A for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 17:17:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mureninc@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so1943623wxd for ; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 10:17:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=C3YinkGG92B8bjJ/irDTQTY9/26ZOKNnH0U0gdhbBjEHI2ZygTZ6ggKDnEo6fgPAD/KBuMczHF3w29x2SrbqrErm1QTicGxkSc4PGQ962ERwOI2I0HcxXMqP1MgZ5FxhLodl/ONviNBxFeEV0YIHa5HP6M6PkQdVt1CJDu/AWnI= Received: by 10.70.78.4 with SMTP id a4mr8204646wxb; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 10:15:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.78.17 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 10:15:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 13:15:34 -0400 From: "Constantine A. Murenin" To: "David King" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3692C07B-CCCC-4756-9B33-6DA724481FF2@ketralnis.com> Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quiet computer X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 17:17:31 -0000 On 04/09/06, David King wrote: > >> I am looking for a small computer that is silent or very quiet to sit > >> in a home office. > > I think you might want to wait a month or two until Intel Core 2 > > "Conroe" and "Allendale" become more readily available. > > Indeed (less than a month later), a vendor called Shuttle just > released this machine: I wonder how much this thing costs... They are comparing it against Mac mini on their own web-site, and as far as space, quietness, power consumption and price are concerned, Mac mini is definitely a winner among the two :) > They call it their X100 and it's just smaller than a cereal box. It > has an Intel Core Duo in it. That's not what I was talking about: X100 is based on Core Duo, not Core Duo 2, which is the newest, latest, fastest and cheapest processor available :) You might as well want to wait until the new Mac mini now, rumours say that it's about to be released quite soon: http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0608macmini.html (2006-08-29) BTW, back to your question about FreeBSD on Mac mini, you probably will not have any problems with booting FreeBSD on Mac mini, as it seems to work with OpenBSD after some update by Apple: http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20060817213709 Cheers, Constantine. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 22:10:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0FD716A4DA for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 22:10:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Received: from ketralnis.com (melchoir.ketralnis.com [68.183.67.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B748F43D5E for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 22:10:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Received: from [10.0.1.239] (ayla.wifi.int.ketralnis.com [10.0.1.239]) (authenticated bits=0) by ketralnis.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k84MAZr5000326 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 15:10:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <3692C07B-CCCC-4756-9B33-6DA724481FF2@ketralnis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <560458E8-41A1-4F2F-B5BE-7B3EE3F4B113@ketralnis.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David King Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 15:10:31 -0700 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Subject: Re: Quiet computer X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 22:10:40 -0000 >>>> I am looking for a small computer that is silent or very quiet >>>> to sit >>>> in a home office. >>> I think you might want to wait a month or two until Intel Core 2 >>> "Conroe" and "Allendale" become more readily available. >> Indeed (less than a month later), a vendor called Shuttle just >> released this machine: > I wonder how much this thing costs... They are comparing it against > Mac mini on their own web-site, and as far as space, quietness, power > consumption and price are concerned, Mac mini is definitely a winner > among the two :) It runs at just over $1,000 (USD) for the one with the Core Duo. Yes, the Mac Mini does look to be a winner between the two, but I'd like to run FreeBSD natively instead of messing with Boot Camp. You see, instead of trying to hunt down a few years worth of configuration changes and make them all again in a new FreeBSD install, I'd like to move the hard drive right out of my current server into a new one, whereas if FreeBSD isn't running natively but instead requires Boot Camp, I can't do that, as Boot Camp requires a partition on the hard drive (and, to make it in the first place, a space-wasting install of OS X) >> They call it their X100 and it's just smaller than a cereal box. It >> has an Intel Core Duo in it. > That's not what I was talking about: X100 is based on Core Duo, not > Core Duo 2, which is the newest, latest, fastest and cheapest > processor available :) > You might as well want to wait until the new Mac mini now, rumours say > that it's about to be released quite soon: > http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0608macmini.html (2006-08-29) You're right, I stand corrected, it's a Core Duo, not a Core 2 Duo (dumbest name ever). > BTW, back to your question about FreeBSD on Mac mini, you probably > will not have any problems with booting FreeBSD on Mac mini, as it > seems to work with OpenBSD after some update by Apple: > http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20060817213709 Yes, but it runs within Boot Camp, instead of being booted directly from EFI, so it requires the aforementioned partition, keeping me from directly moving my hard drive. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 22:15:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 118BC16A54B for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 22:15:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Received: from ketralnis.com (melchoir.ketralnis.com [68.183.67.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E53A43D46 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 22:15:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Received: from [10.0.1.239] (ayla.wifi.int.ketralnis.com [10.0.1.239]) (authenticated bits=0) by ketralnis.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k84MFjYW000368 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 15:15:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <000f01c6d033$3f447b80$bdcd7280$@com> References: <3692C07B-CCCC-4756-9B33-6DA724481FF2@ketralnis.com> <000f01c6d033$3f447b80$bdcd7280$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <68AD5D02-275C-43F0-B0DB-174EDD53702F@ketralnis.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David King Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 15:15:43 -0700 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Subject: Re: Quiet computer X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 22:15:48 -0000 > Very cool looking computer! But, with a Duo core in it, it HAS to > create > some heat, thus some fans. My MacBook Pro gets pretty hot, but runs fanless most of the time. It's a Core Duo. > The only things I've seen that run fanless are Via based, fast > enough for > email-web etc. but probably not much of a game machine. Yes, the Via's aren't the most performant, though. They would be fine for my purposes if they were slow but dual-core, unfortunately they are just slow. I'm not looking for a game machine, though, I'm looking for a quiet server for a home-office that can witstand a long- running single-threaded process that sucks up most of the CPU, hence the call for dual-core (since then it will only be able to suck up one CPU). It's replacing a single 350 MHz "server," so even dual-core 600 MHz would be a step up. > I've been toying with the idea of building one of those for our home > computer. Let me know if you get something quiet and acceptably performant, I might ask for advice or your services :) > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of David King > Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 10:13 PM > To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Quiet computer > >>> I am looking for a small computer that is silent or very quiet to >>> sit >>> in a home office. >> I think you might want to wait a month or two until Intel Core 2 >> "Conroe" and "Allendale" become more readily available. > > Indeed (less than a month later), a vendor called Shuttle just > released this > machine: > > They call it their X100 and it's just smaller than a cereal box. It > has an > Intel Core Duo in it. > > Does anyone have one of these by chance? 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They would be fine > for my purposes if they were slow but dual-core, unfortunately they > are just slow. I'm not looking for a game machine, though, I'm There is a dual-core version as well. I already mentioned that, AFAIR. http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/mini_itx/vt_310dp/ [SorAlx] ridin' VN1500-B2 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 13:51:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BCD916A4DE for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:51:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vicknesan@bigfoot.com) Received: from mail1.ilik.net (mail1.ilik.net [192.71.20.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2ACD43D45 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:51:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vicknesan@bigfoot.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.ilik.net [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.ilik.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B29562C37A5 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 15:43:08 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ilik.net Received: from mail1.ilik.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail1.ilik.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E+EALVTEn193 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 15:43:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ark (138.206.216.81.static.nvik.siw.siwnet.net [81.216.206.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail1.ilik.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEEB72C3755 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 15:43:07 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 15:51:14 +0200 (CEST) From: Vicknesan AYADURAI X-X-Sender: vick@apu To: FreeBSD-hardware In-Reply-To: <20060830080521.L715@apu> Message-ID: <20060905154444.E2603@apu> References: <20060830080521.L715@apu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: PCMCIA networking failure going 5.4R-->6.1R X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 13:51:17 -0000 Hi all, Am posting this 'solution' as a follow-up to my original question, which is now 'fixed'. After more Net-trawling, I found a similar problem described on the freebsd-acpi list, with a workaround: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-acpi/2006-June/002833.html Seems like there's some magic involved with IBM ThinkPads and PCI IRQ assignments. Anyway, having the following lines: > hw.cbb.start_memory=0xd8000 > hw.pci.link.LNKA.irq=11 > hw.pci.link.LNKB.irq=11 > hw.pci.link.LNKC.irq=11 > hw.pci.link.LNKD.irq=11 in my 6.1R /boot/loader.conf enabled both my PCMCIA cards to get assigned IRQ 11, and work without any hitches. Just a general FYI, vick On Wed, 30 Aug 2006, Vicknesan AYADURAI wrote: > Hi all, > > Have been wrestling a bizarre problem unsuccessfully for a week now and am > hoping someone on this list might be able to help. > > My home router is an old IBM Thinkpad 600 notebook, with two 3Com Megahertz > 589E PCMCIA ethernet cards - 1 linking to the Internet, and 1 to an in-home > 192.168.0/24 LAN. I believe this to be reliable, battle-tested hardware, and > everything, i.e., routing, NAT, DHCP, IPFW, etc., had been running smoothly > for months on FreeBSD-5.4R > > A week ago I did a fresh install of FreeBSD-6.1R and the problem with the > network cards appeared. Both PCMCIA cards are detected as ep0 and ep1 upon > bootup, and can be assigned their static IP addresses. However, the > networking on one of them is _extremely_ slow. > > Pinging a host at the 'other-end' of the ethernet link results in a cycle of > 10 packet coming in simultaneously in a burst, a pause for 10 seconds, > followed by the next 10 packets simultaneously, a further pause of 10 > seconds, etc., etc. > > I've determined that the problem is slot-dependent, as either card in this > slot exhibits this bursty/pause problem. > > However, and this is the 'bizarre' bit, booting up with a FreeSBIE CD > (running FreeBSD-5.3R) on the same hardware results in no problems with the > networking - on _both_ PCMCIA slots. > > Hence, the problem seems to be that a PCMCIA network card works with 5.XR but > not 6.1R. > > One difference I have noticed between the two RELEASEs is the card on the > 'dodgy' slot is detected as (from dmesg): > > ep1: <3Com Megahertz 589E> at port 0x110-0x11f irq 9 function 0 config 1 on > pccard1 > > when booted up with 6.1R, but 'irq 10' (instead of 9) when booted up with > 5.3R. > > I'm now suspecting that perhaps the hardware for the good and bad scenarios > may not be 100% identical as different IRQs are assigned with the different > releases to the network card on the 'dodgy' slot. 'vmstat -i' doesn't show > any IRQ collisions, but I'm suspecting that perhaps there's some problem with > the PC's IRQ 9 (?). > > What I've been trying to do in the last 24-hrs is to get a different IRQ > (i.e., not 9) assigned to the card in the 'dodgy' slot to test this > hypothesis out, but haven't been able to figure out how PCMCIA > IRQ-assignments are done in 6.1R. In the good old (pre-6.1R) days, IRQ > assignments could be assigned at the start of /etc/pccard.conf, but > pccard.conf doesn't seem to do much with 6.1R. > > Has anyone observed this behaviour before? Does the diagnosis sound remotely > plausible? If so, does anyone know how I can get a different IRQ assigned to > a PCMCIA card in a specific slot? > > Alternatively, any other ideas/tips/suggestions/words of comfort would be > also greatly appreciated :-) > > Regards, > vick > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 14:40:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78AE16A4DD for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:40:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Received: from ketralnis.com (melchoir.ketralnis.com [68.183.67.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4962B43D46 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:40:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Received: from [10.196.7.92] ([66.209.15.236]) (authenticated bits=0) by ketralnis.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k85EdmQ9011452 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 07:40:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <200609042230.51646.soralx@cydem.org> References: <3692C07B-CCCC-4756-9B33-6DA724481FF2@ketralnis.com> <000f01c6d033$3f447b80$bdcd7280$@com> <68AD5D02-275C-43F0-B0DB-174EDD53702F@ketralnis.com> <200609042230.51646.soralx@cydem.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David King Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 07:39:04 -0700 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Subject: Re: Quiet computer X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 14:40:07 -0000 >> Yes, the Via's aren't the most performant, though. They would be fine >> for my purposes if they were slow but dual-core, unfortunately they >> are just slow. I'm not looking for a game machine, though, I'm > There is a dual-core version as well. I already mentioned that, AFAIR. > http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/mini_itx/vt_310dp/ Ah, I must have missed that. Now I'm all excited :) From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 15:18:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F7216A55E for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 15:18:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane.co.uk [62.140.220.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C44A43DE7 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 15:13:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from [192.168.10.217] (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.13.7/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k85FCn7X065382 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:12:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <44FD93E6.4040604@unsane.co.uk> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 16:12:38 +0100 From: Vince User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060811) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: i945 support in 6.X X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 15:18:45 -0000 Hi, Searching in google for info on freebsd support for the i945 PCI express card lead me to http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hardware/2006-May/003511.html Is there any news on when this will be MFCed or a patch for 6.x I could try anywhere? Vince From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 15:34:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F83A16A4DF for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 15:34:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amason@rackspace.com) Received: from mx.sat.rackspace.com (mx.sat.rackspace.com [64.39.1.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6572F43D72 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 15:34:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from amason@rackspace.com) Received: from mail.rackspace.com (mail.rackspace.com [64.39.2.181]) by mx.sat.rackspace.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k85FYc3O025256 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 10:34:38 -0500 (envelope-from amason@rackspace.com) Received: from [10.6.105.56] (office105-56.sat4.rackspace.com [10.6.105.56]) by mail.rackspace.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k85FYVFp021734 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 10:34:31 -0500 From: Art Mason Organization: Rackspace Managed Hosting To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 10:36:45 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <44FD93E6.4040604@unsane.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <44FD93E6.4040604@unsane.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609051036.45933.amason@rackspace.com> Subject: Re: i945 support in 6.X X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 15:34:40 -0000 On Tuesday 05 September 2006 10:12, Vince wrote: > Hi, > Searching in google for info on freebsd support for the i945 PCI > express card lead me to > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hardware/2006-May/003511.html > > Is there any news on when this will be MFCed or a patch for 6.x I could > try anywhere? > > Vince > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hmmm, not sure if this is what you're looking for, but mine is working w/o issue on this workstation (Dell OptiPlex GX520): FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE 'lspci -v' reports the following: 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 945G/GZ Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) Subsystem: Dell Unknown device 01ad Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Memory at feb80000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 2 Let me know if you would like a copy of my xorg.conf for reference. Cheers. -- Art Mason amason@rackspace.com Intensive Network Security Rackspace Managed Hosting (800) 961-4454 ext. 4290 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 16:29:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A8C16A4E5 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:29:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane.co.uk [62.140.220.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62B5143D72 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:29:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from [192.168.10.217] (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.13.7/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k85GT31D066258 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 5 Sep 2006 17:29:04 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <44FDA5C2.7030304@unsane.co.uk> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:28:50 +0100 From: Vince User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060811) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Art Mason References: <44FD93E6.4040604@unsane.co.uk> <200609051036.45933.amason@rackspace.com> In-Reply-To: <200609051036.45933.amason@rackspace.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: i945 support in 6.X X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 16:29:14 -0000 Art Mason wrote: > On Tuesday 05 September 2006 10:12, Vince wrote: >> Hi, >> Searching in google for info on freebsd support for the i945 PCI >> express card lead me to >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hardware/2006-May/003511.html >> >> Is there any news on when this will be MFCed or a patch for 6.x I could >> try anywhere? >> >> Vince >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Hmmm, not sure if this is what you're looking for, but mine is working w/o > issue on this workstation (Dell OptiPlex GX520): > > FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE > > 'lspci -v' reports the following: > > 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 945G/GZ Express Integrated > Graphics Controller (rev 02) > Subsystem: Dell Unknown device 01ad > Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 > Memory at feb80000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) > Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 2 > > Let me know if you would like a copy of my xorg.conf for reference. > > Cheers. I'd be more interested in your kernel conf. from pciconf -lv I have hostb0@pci0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x01d81028 chip=0x27a08086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI none0@pci0:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x01d81028 chip=0x27a28086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = display subclass = VGA none1@pci0:2:1: class=0x038000 card=0x01d81028 chip=0x27a68086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = display and [17:14:58:~] (jhary@prawn)$dmesg | grep -i agp [17:15:04:~] (jhary@prawn)$ So as you see no agp, but its in my kernel. [~](17:17:34) {root@prawn}#grep -i agp /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/PRAWN6 device agp # support several AGP chipsets [~](17:17:45) {root@prawn}# I'm running a couple of week old stable. {root@prawn}#uname -a FreeBSD prawn.unsane.co.uk 6.1-STABLE FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #4: Mon Aug 21 11:44:01 BST 2006 toor@prawn.unsane.co.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PRAWN6 i386 [~](17:25:28) {root@prawn}# Any suggestions welcome. Wouldnt mind a copy of the xorg.conf anyway if thats ok. Thanks, Vince From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 16:50:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AAA116A4DF for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:50:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amason@rackspace.com) Received: from mx.sat.rackspace.com (mx.sat.rackspace.com [64.39.1.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F084943D46 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:49:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from amason@rackspace.com) Received: from mail.rackspace.com (mail.rackspace.com [64.39.2.181]) by mx.sat.rackspace.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k85GnpVa013747; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 11:49:51 -0500 (envelope-from amason@rackspace.com) Received: from [10.6.105.56] (office105-56.sat4.rackspace.com [10.6.105.56]) by mail.rackspace.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k85Gnimb029916 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 5 Sep 2006 11:49:44 -0500 From: Art Mason Organization: Rackspace Managed Hosting To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 11:51:58 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <44FD93E6.4040604@unsane.co.uk> <200609051036.45933.amason@rackspace.com> <44FDA5C2.7030304@unsane.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <44FDA5C2.7030304@unsane.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609051151.58388.amason@rackspace.com> Cc: Vince Subject: Re: i945 support in 6.X X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 16:50:02 -0000 On Tuesday 05 September 2006 11:28, Vince wrote: > Art Mason wrote: > > On Tuesday 05 September 2006 10:12, Vince wrote: > >> Hi, > >> Searching in google for info on freebsd support for the i945 PCI > >> express card lead me to > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hardware/2006-May/003511.html > >> > >> Is there any news on when this will be MFCed or a patch for 6.x I could > >> try anywhere? > >> > >> Vince > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > Hmmm, not sure if this is what you're looking for, but mine is working > > w/o issue on this workstation (Dell OptiPlex GX520): > > > > FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE > > > > 'lspci -v' reports the following: > > > > 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 945G/GZ Express Integrated > > Graphics Controller (rev 02) > > Subsystem: Dell Unknown device 01ad > > Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 > > Memory at feb80000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) > > Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 2 > > > > Let me know if you would like a copy of my xorg.conf for reference. > > > > Cheers. > > I'd be more interested in your kernel conf. > from pciconf -lv I have > > hostb0@pci0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x01d81028 chip=0x27a08086 > rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > class = bridge > subclass = HOST-PCI > none0@pci0:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x01d81028 chip=0x27a28086 rev=0x03 > hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > class = display > subclass = VGA > none1@pci0:2:1: class=0x038000 card=0x01d81028 chip=0x27a68086 rev=0x03 > hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > class = display > and > [17:14:58:~] > (jhary@prawn)$dmesg | grep -i agp > [17:15:04:~] > (jhary@prawn)$ > > So as you see no agp, but its in my kernel. > > [~](17:17:34) > {root@prawn}#grep -i agp /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/PRAWN6 > device agp # support several AGP chipsets > [~](17:17:45) > {root@prawn}# > > I'm running a couple of week old stable. > > {root@prawn}#uname -a > FreeBSD prawn.unsane.co.uk 6.1-STABLE FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #4: Mon Aug 21 > 11:44:01 BST 2006 > toor@prawn.unsane.co.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PRAWN6 i386 > [~](17:25:28) > {root@prawn}# > > Any suggestions welcome. > Wouldnt mind a copy of the xorg.conf anyway if thats ok. > > Thanks, > Vince Hey, Vince, Just running the default GENERIC kernel here w/ KLDs: FreeBSD mizar.rackspace.com 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Sun May 7 04:32:43 UTC 2006 root@opus.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 kldstat shows the following: Id Refs Address Size Name 1 13 0xc0400000 691928 kernel 2 1 0xc0a92000 4228 vesa.ko 3 2 0xc0a97000 1aff0 linux.ko 4 2 0xc0ab2000 22b88 sound.ko 5 1 0xc0ad5000 5f60 snd_ich.ko 6 1 0xc0adb000 58554 acpi.ko 7 1 0xc4e68000 6000 linprocfs.ko and here's my xorg.conf: Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Layout0" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" EndSection Section "Files" EndSection Section "Module" # Load "freetype" # Load "xtt" Load "extmod" Load "glx" Load "dri" Load "dbe" Load "record" Load "xtrap" Load "type1" Load "speedo" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "Auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "keyboard" Option "XkbModel" "pc104" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Card0" Driver "i810" Option "DRI" "on" EndSection Section "DRI" Mode 0666 EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection EndSection Hope this helps, but let me know if I can provide any additional information. Cheers, -- Art Mason amason@rackspace.com Intensive Network Security Rackspace Managed Hosting (800) 961-4454 ext. 4290 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 16:57:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF54C16A4DE for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:57:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Received: from ketralnis.com (melchoir.ketralnis.com [68.183.67.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5849543D7C for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:57:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Received: from [192.168.1.21] (pix.xythos.com [64.154.218.194]) (authenticated bits=0) by ketralnis.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k85Gv8nZ015496 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 09:57:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <200609042230.51646.soralx@cydem.org> References: <3692C07B-CCCC-4756-9B33-6DA724481FF2@ketralnis.com> <000f01c6d033$3f447b80$bdcd7280$@com> <68AD5D02-275C-43F0-B0DB-174EDD53702F@ketralnis.com> <200609042230.51646.soralx@cydem.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <15F475AB-1304-4B1B-9B71-B874D237173B@ketralnis.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David King Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 09:56:54 -0700 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Subject: Re: Quiet computer X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 16:57:15 -0000 >> Yes, the Via's aren't the most performant, though. They would be fine >> for my purposes if they were slow but dual-core, unfortunately they >> are just slow. I'm not looking for a game machine, though, I'm > There is a dual-core version as well. I already mentioned that, AFAIR. > http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/mini_itx/vt_310dp/ Would you happen to know of anyone shipping systems with these boards? I can build one but it would be nice to pay someone else to do it instead :) From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 05:48:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DDE216A4DE for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 05:48:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from soralx@cydem.org) Received: from cydem.org (S0106000103ce4c9c.vc.shawcable.net [24.87.27.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE87A43D46 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 05:48:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from soralx@cydem.org) Received: from soralx.cydem.org (unknown [192.168.0.249]) by cydem.org (Postfix/FreeBSD) with ESMTP id A7BE490749 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 22:48:50 -0700 (PDT) From: soralx@cydem.org To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 22:48:47 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <3692C07B-CCCC-4756-9B33-6DA724481FF2@ketralnis.com> <200609042230.51646.soralx@cydem.org> <15F475AB-1304-4B1B-9B71-B874D237173B@ketralnis.com> In-Reply-To: <15F475AB-1304-4B1B-9B71-B874D237173B@ketralnis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609052248.48214.soralx@cydem.org> Subject: Re: Quiet computer X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 05:48:54 -0000 > > http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/mini_itx/vt_310dp/ > Ah, I must have missed that. Now I'm all excited :) I wouldn't get too excited just now, but wait 'till VIA release something similar, only with their newest, bestest, better-than-ever CPU cores :) Check out the 'Processors' section of their site. > Would you happen to know of anyone shipping systems with these boards? > I can build one but it would be nice to pay someone else to do it > instead :) You mean, you have a job for fellow BSD'ers? ;) No, I don't know who builds complete systems, but seems like this board is available on an auction (eBay). And it is expensive (however, considering it's got everything integrated, + some nice, original CPU features which are quite useful for a server -- such as true RNG, and hw crypto engine that can run at 25 Gbit/s (!) max -- not to bad, IMO). If you want to run the chips at > ~1GHz, you either need to put a bigger radiator (much bigger! 20W is no joke {2GHz VIA C7}) or keep the fan. The Eden chips, which are on the dual-core board, dissipate 7.5W max, so you also may need bigger heatsink, or run them underclocked, or avoid 100% load (idle heat dissipation is only 500mW -- unbelievable!). I have not tested any VIA processors myself yet, and I'm waiting for someone to try them out with FBSD and post results :p I also heard rumors (can't remember on which maillist) that CPU's RNG and crypto engine work with FreeBSD rather well... [SorAlx] ridin' VN1500-B2 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 14:31:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2274816A4DE for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 14:31:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lgusenet@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1E8F43D49 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 14:31:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lgusenet@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 13365 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2006 14:31:33 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 6 Sep 2006 14:31:32 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 2418F28449; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 10:31:32 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org References: <3692C07B-CCCC-4756-9B33-6DA724481FF2@ketralnis.com> <200609042230.51646.soralx@cydem.org> <15F475AB-1304-4B1B-9B71-B874D237173B@ketralnis.com> <200609052248.48214.soralx@cydem.org> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 10:31:31 -0400 In-Reply-To: <200609052248.48214.soralx@cydem.org> (soralx@cydem.org's message of "Tue, 5 Sep 2006 22:48:47 -0700") Message-ID: <447j0hcbi4.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Quiet computer X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 14:31:34 -0000 soralx@cydem.org writes: > You mean, you have a job for fellow BSD'ers? ;) No, I don't know who > builds complete systems, but seems like this board is available on > an auction (eBay). And it is expensive (however, considering it's > got everything integrated, + some nice, original CPU features > which are quite useful for a server -- such as true RNG, and hw > crypto engine that can run at 25 Gbit/s (!) max -- not to bad, IMO). I bought a Via system http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/photos/2006/05.May/Epia/thumbnails.html from logicsupply.com, and they will build systems for you. I didn't have them assemble mine for me, and it only took me an hour to get it assembled and running FreeBSD 6.1. They have that board, as well. I'm sure other vendors have it too, although I haven't checked. > I have not tested any VIA processors myself yet, and I'm waiting > for someone to try them out with FBSD and post results :p > I also heard rumors (can't remember on which maillist) that CPU's > RNG and crypto engine work with FreeBSD rather well... I have crypto(4), cryptodev(4), and padlock(4) installed on my system. I haven't benchmarked it, but it certainly keeps the load down on my constant ssh sessions... From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 14:33:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8EE16A4DD for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 14:33:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lowell@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B6AC43D45 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 14:33:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lowell@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 24080 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2006 14:33:58 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 6 Sep 2006 14:33:58 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id DAABA28449; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 10:33:57 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org References: <3692C07B-CCCC-4756-9B33-6DA724481FF2@ketralnis.com> <200609042230.51646.soralx@cydem.org> <15F475AB-1304-4B1B-9B71-B874D237173B@ketralnis.com> <200609052248.48214.soralx@cydem.org> <447j0hcbi4.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 10:33:57 -0400 In-Reply-To: <447j0hcbi4.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> (Lowell Gilbert's message of "Wed, 06 Sep 2006 10:31:31 -0400") Message-ID: <443bb5cbe2.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Quiet computer X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 14:33:59 -0000 > I have crypto(4), cryptodev(4), and padlock(4) installed on my > system. I haven't benchmarked it, but it certainly keeps the load > down on my constant ssh sessions... Note that pjd@ recently updated the padlock code in 6.x, so he might have more performance data. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 20:50:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7700116A4DA; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 20:50:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jgrosch@juniper.net) Received: from borg.juniper.net (borg.juniper.net [207.17.137.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 171E143D53; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 20:50:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jgrosch@juniper.net) Received: from unknown (HELO alpha.jnpr.net) ([172.24.18.126]) by borg.juniper.net with ESMTP; 07 Sep 2006 13:48:50 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.08,226,1154934000"; d="scan'208"; a="586160668:sNHT28188292" Received: from [172.24.115.16] ([172.24.115.16]) by alpha.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:50:48 -0700 Message-ID: <45008628.2000007@juniper.net> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 13:50:48 -0700 From: Josef Grosch Organization: Juniper Networks User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060613) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Sep 2006 20:50:48.0566 (UTC) FILETIME=[4C336160:01C6D2BF] Cc: freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: DL 380/G5 with 16G of ram X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 20:50:49 -0000 Hello, I've got a DL 380/G5 as an evalu unit. It has 16 gig of ram. I compiled a PAE kernel but I'm finding that it is not very stable. It crashes during heavy disk activity, ie. portupgrade -rav. Does anyone have experience with this sort of machine and would you care to share your kernel config file and/or advice. Thanks Josef -- FreeBSD 6.1 | Josef Grosch | You can't expect to wield supreme executive power jgrosch@juniper.net | just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you! From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 21:26:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D866016A4E0; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 21:26:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 480BD43D79; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 21:26:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16205290C98; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:25:58 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06031-08; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:26:00 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-137-86-60.eastlink.ca [24.137.86.60]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62481290C6D; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:25:57 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D91505DC5E; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:26:00 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D81785D75B; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:26:00 -0300 (ADT) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:26:00 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Josef Grosch In-Reply-To: <45008628.2000007@juniper.net> Message-ID: <20060907182533.D64655@ganymede.hub.org> References: <45008628.2000007@juniper.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DL 380/G5 with 16G of ram X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 21:26:03 -0000 On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Josef Grosch wrote: > > Hello, > > I've got a DL 380/G5 as an evalu unit. It has 16 gig of ram. I compiled > a PAE kernel but I'm finding that it is not very stable. It crashes > during heavy disk activity, ie. portupgrade -rav. Does anyone have > experience with this sort of machine and would you care to share your > kernel config file and/or advice. Have you tried a non-PAE kernel? If its a new unit, I imagine its 64bit, which, as far as I'm aware, doesn't require PAE ... ? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 21:45:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A814F16A4E5; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 21:45:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmiele@ipnstock.com) Received: from shanty.ipnstock.com (static-71-241-222-63.port.east.verizon.net [71.241.222.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A3C43D7D; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 21:45:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bmiele@ipnstock.com) Received: from shanty.ipnstock.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shanty.ipnstock.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k87LixZq079351; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:44:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bmiele@ipnstock.com) Received: from localhost (brad@localhost) by shanty.ipnstock.com (8.13.4/8.13.3/Submit) with ESMTP id k87LiusX079348; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:44:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bmiele@ipnstock.com) X-Authentication-Warning: shanty.ipnstock.com: brad owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:44:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Brad Miele X-X-Sender: brad@shanty.ipnstock.com To: "Marc G. Fournier" In-Reply-To: <20060907182533.D64655@ganymede.hub.org> Message-ID: <20060907173812.E2717@shanty.ipnstock.com> References: <45008628.2000007@juniper.net> <20060907182533.D64655@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Josef Grosch Subject: Re: DL 380/G5 with 16G of ram X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 21:45:13 -0000 I have 2 new dl380/G5s which threw the Memory above 4G ignored errors unless i used a PAE kernel. my kernel config is below, the machine has been up and has had no trouble with portupgrade/buildworld, etc. but it is not in production yet either and i have not put a ton of stress on it. I have 6G ram, so not nearly as much. fwiw, here is my conf. I pretty much rolled the PAE config into my custom conf. The custom conf has as much as I possible could lose stripped out. machine i386 cpu I686_CPU ident MYBOXYO # To make an SMP kernel, the next line is needed options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel # To make a PAE kernel, the next option is needed options PAE # Physical Address Extensions Kernel # for apache2 options ACCEPT_FILTER_HTTP # Compile acpi in statically since the module isn't built properly. Most # machines which support large amounts of memory require acpi. device acpi # Don't build modules with this kernel config, since they are not built with # the correct options headers. makeoptions NO_MODULES=yes # What follows is a list of drivers that are normally in GENERIC, but either # don't work or are untested with PAE. Be very careful before enabling any # of these drivers. Drivers which use DMA and don't handle 64 bit physical # address properly may cause data corruption when used in a machine with more # than 4 gigabytes of memory. nodevice ahb nodevice amd nodevice sym nodevice trm nodevice adv nodevice adw nodevice aha nodevice aic nodevice bt nodevice ncv nodevice nsp nodevice stg nodevice asr nodevice dpt nodevice mly nodevice hptmv nodevice ida nodevice mlx nodevice pst nodevice agp nodevice de nodevice txp nodevice vx nodevice nve nodevice pcn nodevice sf nodevice sis nodevice ste nodevice tl nodevice tx nodevice vr nodevice wb nodevice cs nodevice ed nodevice ex nodevice ep nodevice fe nodevice ie nodevice lnc nodevice sn nodevice xe nodevice wlan nodevice wlan_wep # 802.11 WEP support nodevice wlan_ccmp # 802.11 CCMP support nodevice wlan_tkip # 802.11 TKIP support nodevice an nodevice ath # Atheros pci/cardbus NIC's nodevice ath_hal # Atheros HAL (Hardware Access Layer) nodevice ath_rate_sample # SampleRate tx rate control for ath nodevice awi nodevice ral nodevice wi nodevice uhci nodevice ohci nodevice ehci nodevice usb nodevice ugen nodevice uhid nodevice ukbd nodevice ulpt nodevice umass nodevice ums nodevice ural nodevice urio nodevice uscanner nodevice aue nodevice axe nodevice cdce nodevice cue nodevice kue nodevice rue ##### makeoptions DEBUG=-g # Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols #options SCHED_ULE # ULE scheduler options SCHED_4BSD # 4BSD scheduler options PREEMPTION # Enable kernel thread preemption options INET # InterNETworking #options INET6 # IPv6 communications protocols options FFS # Berkeley Fast Filesystem options SOFTUPDATES # Enable FFS soft updates support options UFS_ACL # Support for access control lists options UFS_DIRHASH # Improve performance on big directories options MD_ROOT # MD is a potential root device options NFSCLIENT # Network Filesystem Client options NFSSERVER # Network Filesystem Server options NFS_ROOT # NFS usable as /, requires NFSCLIENT options MSDOSFS # MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 # ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS # Process filesystem (requires PSEUDOFS) options PSEUDOFS # Pseudo-filesystem framework options GEOM_GPT # GUID Partition Tables. options COMPAT_43 # Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 # Compatible with FreeBSD4 options COMPAT_FREEBSD5 # Compatible with FreeBSD5 options SCSI_DELAY=5000 # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options KTRACE # ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM # SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM # SYSV-style semaphores options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING # POSIX P1003_1B real-time extensions options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev options ADAPTIVE_GIANT # Giant mutex is adaptive. device apic # I/O APIC # Bus support. device eisa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives options ATA_STATIC_ID # Static device numbering # SCSI Controllers #device aha # Adaptec 154x SCSI adapters #device aic # Adaptec 15[012]x SCSI adapters, AIC-6[23]60. # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required for SCSI) device ch # SCSI media changers device da # Direct Access (disks) device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) device cd # CD device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) device ses # SCSI Environmental Services (and SAF-TE) # RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem device ciss # Compaq Smart RAID 5* # RAID controllers # device ida # Compaq Smart RAID # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc # AT keyboard controller device atkbd # AT keyboard device psm # PS/2 mouse device kbdmux # keyboard multiplexer device vga # VGA video card driver device splash # Splash screen and screen saver support # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc device agp # support several AGP chipsets # Power management support (see NOTES for more options) #device apm # Add suspend/resume support for the i8254. device pmtimer # Serial (COM) ports device sio # 8250, 16[45]50 based serial ports # Parallel port device ppc device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs! device miibus # MII bus support device bge # Broadcom BCM570xx Gigabit Ethernet # Pseudo devices. device loop # Network loopback device random # Entropy device device ether # Ethernet support device sl # Kernel SLIP device ppp # Kernel PPP device tun # Packet tunnel. device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) device md # Memory "disks" device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling device faith # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) # The `bpf' device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! # Note that 'bpf' is required for DHCP. device bpf # Berkeley packet filter # USB support device usb # USB Bus (required) Brad --------------------- Brad Miele VP Technology IPNStock.com 866 476 7862 x902 bmiele@ipnstock.com On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Josef Grosch wrote: > >> >> Hello, >> >> I've got a DL 380/G5 as an evalu unit. It has 16 gig of ram. I compiled a >> PAE kernel but I'm finding that it is not very stable. It crashes during >> heavy disk activity, ie. portupgrade -rav. Does anyone have experience with >> this sort of machine and would you care to share your kernel config file >> and/or advice. > > Have you tried a non-PAE kernel? If its a new unit, I imagine its 64bit, > which, as far as I'm aware, doesn't require PAE ... ? > > ---- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) > Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org > Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-proliant > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-proliant-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 01:19:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E48F16A4DA; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 01:19:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B91643D77; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 01:19:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1AAC1A3C1C; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:19:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C921A5135C; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 21:19:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 21:19:01 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Josef Grosch Message-ID: <20060908011901.GA37850@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <45008628.2000007@juniper.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45008628.2000007@juniper.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DL 380/G5 with 16G of ram X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 01:19:05 -0000 --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 01:50:48PM -0700, Josef Grosch wrote: >=20 > Hello, >=20 > I've got a DL 380/G5 as an evalu unit. It has 16 gig of ram. I compiled= =20 > a PAE kernel but I'm finding that it is not very stable. It crashes=20 > during heavy disk activity, ie. portupgrade -rav. Does anyone have=20 > experience with this sort of machine and would you care to share your=20 > kernel config file and/or advice. A good place to start looking would be at the disk driver; is it listed in the "PAE" kernel config? If not, it's probably known not to work. kris --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFAMUFWry0BWjoQKURAtomAJ44vIMdJBycswbdasHSToNAjgIfnQCgiVtC H9HfBNDc0fI+TlP0JYIp2R4= =losI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 04:48:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA0F16A4DA; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 04:48:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mv@thebeastie.org) Received: from p4.roq.com (ns1.ecoms.com [207.44.130.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3566443D49; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 04:48:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mv@thebeastie.org) Received: from p4.roq.com (localhost.roq.com [127.0.0.1]) by p4.roq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 835B74CD7A; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 04:50:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vaulte.jumbuck.com (ppp166-27.static.internode.on.net [150.101.166.27]) by p4.roq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA2624CD6C; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 04:50:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vaulte.jumbuck.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vaulte.jumbuck.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5748A8A01F; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 14:48:40 +1000 (EST) Received: from [192.168.46.102] (unknown [192.168.46.250]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by vaulte.jumbuck.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5206A8A00D; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 14:48:40 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4500F627.1040104@thebeastie.org> Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 14:48:39 +1000 From: Michael Vince User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060727 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Josef Grosch References: <45008628.2000007@juniper.net> In-Reply-To: <45008628.2000007@juniper.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DL 380/G5 with 16G of ram X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 04:48:45 -0000 Josef Grosch wrote: > > Hello, > > I've got a DL 380/G5 as an evalu unit. It has 16 gig of ram. I > compiled a PAE kernel but I'm finding that it is not very stable. It > crashes during heavy disk activity, ie. portupgrade -rav. Does anyone > have experience with this sort of machine and would you care to share > your kernel config file and/or advice. > > > Thanks > > Josef > Yeah I just got my first HP DL380 G5 with 8gigs of RAM with a total of 4 CPU cores, which is placed next to a bunch of Dells. I got a HP because I needed a new server fast and Dell claimed 4 weeks, I will give you my run down on whats happened with me. So far I am annoyed about many things, firstly at has no built in writeback battery on the 256mg SAS controller which means no write cache which is something you have to pay extra for from HP. In the Dells its built in, with 256mg battery backed writecache for guaranteed filesystem consistency on sudden power loss, write cache is important and is otherwise a waste of a good machine if you need top write performance, otherwise may as well get really low end stuff that has really simple controller cards like supermicro etc. Currently it took over 2 hours to build world, on Quad Xeon Core 2 I have been doing all this while being on the other side of the world. The other problem is the remote serial support via tip for reaching into the bios is quite stuffed, all the text garbles into a single line and is just to hard to read, I hacked the minicom port to use the USB to 9pin serial device to see if I could make it more like how people in linux would use it and it made little difference. It looks like HP were trying to have better remote serial bios support by going really basic command line style for remote BIOS control but its no good. The Dell bios is all nice and menu'ed and works flawlessly over remote serial, no garbledness overwriting other text. I gave up trying to do anything via the bios and aimed ta PXE remote install, this worked after a total of 5 hours. It kept dieing out during the install, I finally got it right once. Once I booted in a fresh FreeBSD 6.1-Release AMD64 install the 'bce' ether device kept dieing and timing out, looking back I have no idea how I managed to get a complete PXE remote install in the first place. I managed to cvsup and build a new kernel under 6-stable after about 15 reboots. After a new kernel its been quite stable, but I originally wanted to just stick with Release. There is no IPMI with HP even though it appears to be standard on most other x86 servers. On the new Dell they now have IPMI v2, and I can use a native FreeBSD IPMI client port for remote control. On HP it appears I have to pay for some kind of LO software, this might be the reason for useless uncontrollable remote 9pin serial for BIOS access. I gave a simple test on the bce with stable kernel compared to the Dells with the em nics and it compared quite well but still slower then the Dells. Also note all the Dells are 6.1-Release a lot of posts have come up lately saying the em is now even faster in stable compared to 6.1-Release since the new driver updates, but considering I am getting 97megs/sec via a simple nc test I don't think could/need to go faster. Em Dell to Em Dell dell1# cat /dev/zero | dd bs=1m | nc dell2 3000 ^C0+18456 records in 0+18455 records out 1209466880 bytes transferred in 12.459299 secs (97,073,429 bytes/sec) Bce HP to Em Dell HPDL380# cat /dev/zero | dd bs=1m | nc dell2 3000 ^C0+19648 records in 0+19648 records out 1287606272 bytes transferred in 13.926151 secs (92,459,594 bytes/sec) Mike From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 16:11:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C281716A4DE; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 16:11:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D5F43D4C; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 16:11:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C03291B0B; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 13:11:45 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09334-06; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 13:11:42 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-137-86-60.eastlink.ca [24.137.86.60]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49A67291B0A; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 13:11:41 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EDB2D60544; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 13:11:40 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC9F65E2F2; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 13:11:40 -0300 (ADT) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 13:11:40 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Michael Vince In-Reply-To: <4500F627.1040104@thebeastie.org> Message-ID: <20060908130444.V64655@ganymede.hub.org> References: <45008628.2000007@juniper.net> <4500F627.1040104@thebeastie.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org, Josef Grosch Subject: Re: DL 380/G5 with 16G of ram X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 16:11:48 -0000 On Fri, 8 Sep 2006, Michael Vince wrote: > I got a HP because I needed a new server fast and Dell claimed 4 weeks, > I will give you my run down on whats happened with me. We're running 2xDL360 G4p's here, and so far, have been extremely happy with them ... third is about to be installed ... > So far I am annoyed about many things, firstly at has no built in writeback > battery on the 256mg SAS controller which means no write cache which is > something you have to pay extra for from HP. > In the Dells its built in, with 256mg battery backed writecache for > guaranteed filesystem consistency on sudden power loss, write cache is > important and is otherwise a waste of a good machine if you need top write > performance, otherwise may as well get really low end stuff that has really > simple controller cards like supermicro etc. 'k, can't easily comment on this, but I swear the base system that I bought had the battery included ... I don't recall ever having ordered it seperately, and do know that when I first power on, I get a 'battery error' while it charges up ... > Currently it took over 2 hours to build world, on Quad Xeon Core 2 Stupid question, but are all 4 CPUs working in the kernel? I'll have to test on the new server once its online, but I'm only workign with Dual Xeon, no Dual-Core yet ... > I have been doing all this while being on the other side of the world. > The other problem is the remote serial support via tip for reaching into the > bios is quite stuffed, all the text garbles into a single line and is just to > hard to read, I hacked the minicom port to use the USB to 9pin serial device > to see if I could make it more like how people in linux would use it and it > made little difference. > It looks like HP were trying to have better remote serial bios support by > going really basic command line style for remote BIOS control but its no > good. > The Dell bios is all nice and menu'ed and works flawlessly over remote > serial, no garbledness overwriting other text. Here, what is 'remote serial'? Is that the same as REMCONS through iLO over SSH? Again, will have to double check, as my other two machines are production right now, but my experience with iLO/REMCONS has been most pleasant, but, I also hook up two ethernet cables, I don't do the 'piggy backing' that I know is possible over one ... > I gave up trying to do anything via the bios and aimed ta PXE remote > install, this worked after a total of 5 hours. It kept dieing out during > the install, I finally got it right once. In my case, I put the server in a different room, no monitor or keyboard, CD in the drive, and did everything using REMCONS ... no problems ... > Once I booted in a fresh FreeBSD 6.1-Release AMD64 install the 'bce' > ether device kept dieing and timing out, looking back I have no idea how > I managed to get a complete PXE remote install in the first place. 'k, in my case, its a bge device for ethernet ... haven't had any problems with it so far *cross fingers* > There is no IPMI with HP even though it appears to be standard on most > other x86 servers. On the new Dell they now have IPMI v2, and I can use > a native FreeBSD IPMI client port for remote control. On HP it appears I > have to pay for some kind of LO software, this might be the reason for > useless uncontrollable remote 9pin serial for BIOS access. There are two levels of iLO ... the server (at least the ones we've been buying) come with the 'basic iLO" standard, and then there is an advanced one that we've never felt a desire / requirement for ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 18:14:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E7E416A4F1 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 18:14:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcagle@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5359043DA4 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 18:13:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jcagle@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so712501wxd for ; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 11:13:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=AbrVlmnEUx1ZsOtmki20OJmrP3PBZ/aAczhT3aQ0yGzjXVEyhS42exrzmnKfXRz9DpXsmpdcIi3byZwLOCu9iHOp6A3pae8uQCWL7042IaGYRsaJvJnm4LYyVdrZalD68wmMoYahbZr1YvGwpX92QkW8MiWRNxJ2Jot6H8gZ4aU= Received: by 10.90.25.9 with SMTP id 9mr1013625agy; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 11:13:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.100.11 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 11:13:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6863f0c90609081113l4fc19057m4857a1bc8719583b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 13:13:57 -0500 From: jmc To: "Michael Vince" In-Reply-To: <4500F627.1040104@thebeastie.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <45008628.2000007@juniper.net> <4500F627.1040104@thebeastie.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DL 380/G5 with 16G of ram X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 18:14:12 -0000 On 9/7/06, Michael Vince wrote: > > > I have been doing all this while being on the other side of the world. > The other problem is the remote serial support via tip for reaching into > the bios is quite stuffed, all the text garbles into a single line and > is just to hard to read, I hacked the minicom port to use the USB to > 9pin serial device to see if I could make it more like how people in > linux would use it and it made little difference. > It looks like HP were trying to have better remote serial bios support > by going really basic command line style for remote BIOS control but its > no good. > The Dell bios is all nice and menu'ed and works flawlessly over remote > serial, no garbledness overwriting other text. The BIOS Serial Console (BSC) support should work fine and give you a nice menu to configure the BIOS. The factory default for BSC is auto-detect, which means it checks for a terminal attached to the serial port before enabling it. The default terminal setting is VT100. This can be changed to ANSI in the BIOS setup screens. Have you tried using a different terminal emulator to make your connection to the BIOS? I prefer C-Kermit over minicom. I gave up trying to do anything via the bios and aimed ta PXE remote > install, this worked after a total of 5 hours. > It kept dieing out during the install, I finally got it right once. > > Once I booted in a fresh FreeBSD 6.1-Release AMD64 install the 'bce' > ether device kept dieing and timing out, looking back I have no idea how > I managed to get a complete PXE remote install in the first place. > > I managed to cvsup and build a new kernel under 6-stable after about 15 > reboots. > > After a new kernel its been quite stable, but I originally wanted to > just stick with Release. > > There is no IPMI with HP even though it appears to be standard on most > other x86 servers. On the new Dell they now have IPMI v2, and I can use > a native FreeBSD IPMI client port for remote control. On HP it appears I > have to pay for some kind of LO software, this might be the reason for > useless uncontrollable remote 9pin serial for BIOS access. Your server has a very powerful BMC called iLO. One key feature of iLO is its support for a Virtual Serial Port (VSP). This allows you to SSH into iLO and access a serial console (COM2 by default on the DL380). The BIOS config menu can change this to COM1 if you want to. Here is a link to a document showing how to utilize VSP. http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c00263709/c00263709.pdf iLO also gives you a SMASH compatible command line to manage the server. SMASH is a new DMTF standard alternative to IPMI. I gave a simple test on the bce with stable kernel compared to the Dells > with the em nics and it compared quite well but still slower then the > Dells. > Also note all the Dells are 6.1-Release a lot of posts have come up > lately saying the em is now even faster in stable compared to > 6.1-Release since the new driver updates, but considering I am getting > 97megs/sec via a simple nc test I don't think could/need to go faster. > > Em Dell to Em Dell > dell1# cat /dev/zero | dd bs=1m | nc dell2 3000 > ^C0+18456 records in > 0+18455 records out > 1209466880 bytes transferred in 12.459299 secs (97,073,429 bytes/sec) > > Bce HP to Em Dell > HPDL380# cat /dev/zero | dd bs=1m | nc dell2 3000 > ^C0+19648 records in > 0+19648 records out > 1287606272 bytes transferred in 13.926151 secs (92,459,594 bytes/sec) > > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-proliant > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-proliant-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 12:26:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C9C916A5FE for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 12:26:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roman787@ukrintell.com.ua) Received: from pop.ukrintell.com.ua (pop.ukrintell.com.ua [81.21.0.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3ACB43D45 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 12:26:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roman787@ukrintell.com.ua) Received: from INTELLMON ([81.21.0.3]) by pop.ukrintell.com.ua (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k89CVFWn021156 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 15:31:27 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from roman787@ukrintell.com.ua) From: "Roman Lyashenko" To: Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 15:26:19 +0300 Message-ID: <000001c6d40b$2b0674d0$5028a8c0@INTELLMON> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: XEON 5050 and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 12:26:36 -0000 Hello all, Does anybody know if FreeBSD supports new Intel 64-bit dual-core XEON 5050 or maybe going to support in the future? TIA. Dmitry From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 15:04:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2387C16A403; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 15:04:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mv@thebeastie.org) Received: from p4.roq.com (ns1.ecoms.com [207.44.130.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FB3B43D7D; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 15:04:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mv@thebeastie.org) Received: from p4.roq.com (localhost.roq.com [127.0.0.1]) by p4.roq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEAE34CA4C; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 15:05:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [150.101.157.158] (ppp157-158.static.internode.on.net [150.101.157.158]) by p4.roq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B394CD4D; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 15:05:51 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <4502D7DF.5060302@thebeastie.org> Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 01:03:59 +1000 From: Michael Vince User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060526 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olaf Hoyer References: <45008628.2000007@juniper.net> <4500F627.1040104@thebeastie.org> <20060908130444.V64655@ganymede.hub.org> <20060909151636.A4598@sylvana.boldlygoingnowhere.org> In-Reply-To: <20060909151636.A4598@sylvana.boldlygoingnowhere.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: "Marc G. Fournier" , Josef Grosch , freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DL 380/G5 with 16G of ram X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 15:04:12 -0000 Olaf Hoyer wrote: > On Fri, 8 Sep 2006, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > >>> >>> It looks like HP were trying to have better remote serial bios >>> support by going really basic command line style for remote BIOS >>> control but its no good. >>> The Dell bios is all nice and menu'ed and works flawlessly over >>> remote serial, no garbledness overwriting other text. >> > > The HP boxes offer 2 ways of serial: traditional BIOS redirection at > 9600 bps through 9pin COM1, which you can set up in BIOS, I recall > that there are some options to it, like terminal type, ANSI or VT100. > Could that be an issue in your environment? > Yeah the terminal choice is probably it, I asked some one on the local side of the server to enable the serial bios via COM1 and when it would display a full screen and then just garble everything else at the bottom I asked him about 5 times to look for some kind of ANSI or VT100 terminal type option so I could have a chance of seeing whats really going on he said there was nothing, but now I am sure he just couldn't see it or just didn't care to look. I tried every terminal type I could on my side to help try make it display properly, but it just didn't work. Thanks for all the input. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 15:53:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 798E516A415; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 15:53:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 026F743D45; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 15:53:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DCC7291AFC; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 12:53:11 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 69314-08; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 12:53:11 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-137-86-60.eastlink.ca [24.137.86.60]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72278290C74; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 12:53:10 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5379E3C10F; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 12:53:10 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB1D355DD; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 12:53:10 -0300 (ADT) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 12:53:10 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Michael Vince In-Reply-To: <4502D7DF.5060302@thebeastie.org> Message-ID: <20060909125246.I906@ganymede.hub.org> References: <45008628.2000007@juniper.net> <4500F627.1040104@thebeastie.org> <20060908130444.V64655@ganymede.hub.org> <20060909151636.A4598@sylvana.boldlygoingnowhere.org> <4502D7DF.5060302@thebeastie.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Josef Grosch , Olaf Hoyer , freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DL 380/G5 with 16G of ram X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 15:53:13 -0000 We almost need a step-by-step guide to "configurating a Proliant server for remote access" :) On Sun, 10 Sep 2006, Michael Vince wrote: > Olaf Hoyer wrote: > >> On Fri, 8 Sep 2006, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> >>>> >>>> It looks like HP were trying to have better remote serial bios support by >>>> going really basic command line style for remote BIOS control but its no >>>> good. >>>> The Dell bios is all nice and menu'ed and works flawlessly over remote >>>> serial, no garbledness overwriting other text. >>> >> >> The HP boxes offer 2 ways of serial: traditional BIOS redirection at 9600 >> bps through 9pin COM1, which you can set up in BIOS, I recall that there >> are some options to it, like terminal type, ANSI or VT100. Could that be an >> issue in your environment? >> > Yeah the terminal choice is probably it, I asked some one on the local side > of the server to enable the serial bios via COM1 and when it would display a > full screen and then just garble everything else at the bottom I asked him > about 5 times to look for some kind of ANSI or VT100 terminal type option so > I could have a chance of seeing whats really going on he said there was > nothing, but now I am sure he just couldn't see it or just didn't care to > look. > I tried every terminal type I could on my side to help try make it display > properly, but it just didn't work. > > Thanks for all the input. > > > > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 18:57:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67D0E16A407 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 18:57:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikej@rogers.com) Received: from H43.C18.B96.tor.eicat.ca (H43.C18.B96.tor.eicat.ca [66.96.18.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B06D43D49 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 18:57:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mikej@rogers.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (desktop.home.local [172.16.0.200]) by H43.C18.B96.tor.eicat.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C5011480; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 14:57:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <45030EAA.30707@rogers.com> Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 14:57:46 -0400 From: Mike Jakubik User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roman Lyashenko References: <000001c6d40b$2b0674d0$5028a8c0@INTELLMON> In-Reply-To: <000001c6d40b$2b0674d0$5028a8c0@INTELLMON> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SpamToaster-Information: This messages has been scanned by SpamToaster http://www.digitalprogression.ca X-SpamToaster: Found to be clean X-SpamToaster-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.49, required 3.5, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -2.60, DK_POLICY_SIGNSOME 0.00, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE 0.20, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST 1.71) X-SpamToaster-From: mikej@rogers.com X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XEON 5050 and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 18:57:58 -0000 Roman Lyashenko wrote: > Hello all, > > > > Does anybody know if FreeBSD supports new Intel 64-bit dual-core XEON > 5050 or maybe going to support in the future? > Yes, its not a new architecture, its a new cpu.