From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 20 11:02:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3390F16A422 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:02:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED1CA43D45 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:02:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2KB2ncP082549 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:02:49 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k2KB2mrG082543 for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:02:48 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:02:48 GMT Message-Id: <200603201102.k2KB2mrG082543@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to you X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:02:50 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2004/05/01] java/66151 java JBuilderX (sun jvm 1.4.1 builtin) crashes o [2005/01/24] java/76631 java any port linux-*-jdk12 will core dump if o [2005/05/19] ports/81272 java JDK 1.5 port doesn't build. f [2005/06/13] java/82183 java Cannot install Java 1.5, lots of missing o [2005/09/29] java/86700 java SIGSEGV in native jdk15 o [2005/12/21] java/90743 java jdk-1.5.0p2_3 compilation failure o [2006/02/12] ports/93253 java jdk 1.5 port build problem 7 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- f [2003/09/16] ports/56928 java jce-aba port should install to $JAVA_HOME o [2004/08/11] java/70292 java jdk14 compile problem o [2005/09/02] ports/85626 java java/jdk15 compile error 3 problems total. From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 21 19:33:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B2216A41F for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 19:33:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from faisal.ali@kwe.com) Received: from Webshield1.kwe.com (webshield1.kwe.com [202.19.126.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3158643D49 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 19:33:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from faisal.ali@kwe.com) Received: From JER3000041 ([10.0.32.144]) by Webshield1.kwe.com (WebShield SMTP v4.5 MR2); id 1142948228812; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 13:37:08 +0000 From: "Faisal Ali" To: Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 14:34:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Thread-Index: AcZNHm5NiOxBS39WQbmvq2GHFiY4+g== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Message-Id: <20060321193353.3158643D49@mx1.FreeBSD.org> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 19:37:46 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: OpenNMS shows "disconnect' on homepage X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 19:33:54 -0000 Hi, I am able to install and run the software but when I login the main page indicates in "OpenNMS Disconnect -- is the OpenNMS daemon running? Last update: one or more categories have never been updated. Everything seems to be running, I followed the instructions without getting any errors. Iam using native JDK1.4.2 Faisal From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 21 22:51:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0783316A400; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:51:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: from misty.eyesbeyond.com (c-24-16-180-74.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [24.16.180.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9094443D72; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:51:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: from misty.eyesbeyond.com (localhost.eyesbeyond.com [127.0.0.1]) by misty.eyesbeyond.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k2LMpJ2Z054195; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 15:51:19 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: (from glewis@localhost) by misty.eyesbeyond.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id k2LMpDkq054185; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 15:51:13 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) X-Authentication-Warning: misty.eyesbeyond.com: glewis set sender to glewis@eyesbeyond.com using -f Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 15:51:13 -0700 From: Greg Lewis To: Michael Vince Message-ID: <20060321225113.GA53948@misty.eyesbeyond.com> References: <441A35AE.2020108@roq.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <441A35AE.2020108@roq.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Java 1.5 donations X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:51:29 -0000 Hi Michael, On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 03:06:06PM +1100, Michael Vince wrote: > I been seeing a lot of VM crash reports posted to this mailing list and > I was thinking how it would be great if this project got funding, > everyone knows doing work for reward is better then doing it for free. I would say it goes further than that. Sometimes people can't do it for free due to economic reasons and personal circumstances whereas they want to do it and could do it if they could justify it economically. > I just wanted to state my personal opinion and thoughts about this topic. > I was thinking that methods like Andre Oppermann seem to give a good > example of how a (arguably) small amount of money $18k US can go to > greatly help the FreeBSD project. > http://people.freebsd.org/~andre/tcpoptimization.html > > I was wondering if anyone knew if there was any details such as a time > frame and a rough figure of how much it would cost to get some good > results (or even full Sun Java certification) happening 1.5 Java on > i386/amd64 as I was hoping maybe I could persuade the company I work at > to donate. I also did notice that there was recently a funding > announcement for Java 1.5 on FreeBSD on the FreeBSD foundation web site > which is good news. I don't want to say too much about this just at the moment, but I will say that extra funding in this area will always allow for things that wouldn't previously have been possible. For example, there may not be enough funding to do the certification for an amd64 binary or a FreeBSD 4 binary. If you or your company were interested in those platforms/versions then extra funding would help there. In addition, certification isn't a one time thing. Every time Sun releases an update, there are relevant fixes and improvements that _should_ mean an updated binary from the Foundation. Funding would help make sure that such updates happen at all, and do so in a timely fashion. There are other ways to help too. E.g., providing some amd64 machines would help in the amd64 example above. -- Greg Lewis Email : glewis@eyesbeyond.com Eyes Beyond Web : http://www.eyesbeyond.com Information Technology FreeBSD : glewis@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 22 14:34:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E821216A427 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:34:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo_bsd@yahoo.com.br) Received: from smtp102.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp102.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.85.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 50E9243D7B for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:34:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ricardo_bsd@yahoo.com.br) Received: (qmail 27832 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2006 13:18:22 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com.br; h=Received:Date:To:Subject:From:Organization:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:User-Agent; b=q2+Rmws3EVl15Si0TkXqpOM/uDYaYY1cfSWsnxA8yvXtMXDDIuyWgPJVv93u3+B64WXEY57kESHMBg/rGV/iZmIrHu6riOXWI9jLQNyZEmhjLOH0IHKECQxfeHYpncEYFgcf97sGdh67JrWZYd4pHxoolNbHAVTSQpjxxkk5xas= ; Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (ricardo?bsd@200.17.25.161 with login) by smtp102.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Mar 2006 13:18:20 -0000 Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 10:17:22 -0300 To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org From: "Ricardo A. Reis" Organization: UNIFESP Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=----------FeBAp0bMHc5SD8FUl2hM10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.00 (FreeBSD) Subject: Unexpected Signal : 11 occurred at PC=0x286EFFB3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:34:48 -0000 ------------FeBAp0bMHc5SD8FUl2hM10 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, Azureus in recent RELENG_6 fail with this java dump, pkg_info|grep jdk jdk-1.4.2p8_2 Java Development Kit 1.4.2 linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.10 Sun Java Development Kit 1.4 for Linux FreeBSD daemon.epm.br 6.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE #3: Wed Mar 15 07:45:36 BRT 2006 root@daemon.epm.br:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CABELO i386 -- Atenciosamente Ricardo A. 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Instale o discador agora! http://br.acesso.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 22 14:52:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0E6E16A420 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:52:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from past@ebs.gr) Received: from fly.ebs.gr (fly.ebs.gr [83.171.239.113]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C8E43D45 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:52:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from past@ebs.gr) Received: from ebs.gr (root@hal.ebs.gr [10.1.1.2]) by fly.ebs.gr (8.12.9p1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k2MEppiK045001; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:51:51 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from past@ebs.gr) Received: from [10.1.1.157] (pc157.ebs.gr [10.1.1.157]) by ebs.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k2MEpvuE015751; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:51:57 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from past@ebs.gr) Message-ID: <44216486.3080705@ebs.gr> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:51:50 +0200 From: Panagiotis Astithas Organization: EBS Ltd. User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060203) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ricardo A. Reis" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unexpected Signal : 11 occurred at PC=0x286EFFB3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:52:09 -0000 Ricardo A. Reis wrote: > Hi, > > Azureus in recent RELENG_6 fail with this java dump, > > pkg_info|grep jdk > jdk-1.4.2p8_2 Java Development Kit 1.4.2 > linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.10 Sun Java Development Kit 1.4 for Linux > > > > FreeBSD daemon.epm.br 6.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE #3: Wed Mar > 15 07:45:36 BRT 2006 root@daemon.epm.br:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CABELO > i386 Upgrade your native jdk to revision 3. Cheers, Panagiotis From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 23 11:19:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96D6B16A401 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:19:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from past@ebs.gr) Received: from fly.ebs.gr (fly.ebs.gr [83.171.239.113]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9C443D5D for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:19:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from past@ebs.gr) Received: from ebs.gr (root@hal.ebs.gr [10.1.1.2]) by fly.ebs.gr (8.12.9p1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k2NBIiiK048551; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 13:18:44 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from past@ebs.gr) Received: from [10.1.1.157] (pc157.ebs.gr [10.1.1.157]) by ebs.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k2NBIk7e008654; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 13:18:51 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from past@ebs.gr) Message-ID: <4422840E.8000704@ebs.gr> Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 13:18:38 +0200 From: Panagiotis Astithas Organization: EBS Ltd. User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060203) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lewis References: <441A35AE.2020108@roq.com> <20060321225113.GA53948@misty.eyesbeyond.com> In-Reply-To: <20060321225113.GA53948@misty.eyesbeyond.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Java 1.5 donations X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:19:04 -0000 Greg Lewis wrote: > Hi Michael, > > On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 03:06:06PM +1100, Michael Vince wrote: >> I was wondering if anyone knew if there was any details such as a time >> frame and a rough figure of how much it would cost to get some good >> results (or even full Sun Java certification) happening 1.5 Java on >> i386/amd64 as I was hoping maybe I could persuade the company I work at >> to donate. I also did notice that there was recently a funding >> announcement for Java 1.5 on FreeBSD on the FreeBSD foundation web site >> which is good news. > > I don't want to say too much about this just at the moment... I've been wondering why has there been such a silence on the foundation-sponsored work. There hasn't been any status update to let us know if we are still on schedule for a certified Java binary this month. There hasn't even been a disclosure of the identity of the person who is doing the TCK work. It would give more of a "community" feeling to the whole process :-) In the past, we used to see regular status updates from you or Alexey, and Nate Williams used to be even more prompt to discuss the state of affairs, whether good or bad. Is this just a case of too much work / too little time, or has something fundamentally changed in the way the BSD Java team works? Has Sun demanded anything like that? Is it perhaps related to a potential change of course to use Sun partner sources for the certified binaries, rather than SCSL licensed ones? I'm more curious about the 'why has there been such a change', rather than the 'what has changed exactly', if you are not at liberty to disclose stuff. Regards, Panagiotis From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 23 17:43:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6E116A400 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 17:43:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: from misty.eyesbeyond.com (c-24-16-180-74.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [24.16.180.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9439143D46 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 17:43:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: from misty.eyesbeyond.com (localhost.eyesbeyond.com [127.0.0.1]) by misty.eyesbeyond.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k2NHhXUs040188; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 10:43:34 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: (from glewis@localhost) by misty.eyesbeyond.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id k2NHhQjm040187; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 10:43:26 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) X-Authentication-Warning: misty.eyesbeyond.com: glewis set sender to glewis@eyesbeyond.com using -f Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 10:43:26 -0700 From: Greg Lewis To: Panagiotis Astithas Message-ID: <20060323174325.GA39967@misty.eyesbeyond.com> References: <441A35AE.2020108@roq.com> <20060321225113.GA53948@misty.eyesbeyond.com> <4422840E.8000704@ebs.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4422840E.8000704@ebs.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Java 1.5 donations X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 17:43:45 -0000 Hi Panagiotis, On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 01:18:38PM +0200, Panagiotis Astithas wrote: > Greg Lewis wrote: > >Hi Michael, > > > >On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 03:06:06PM +1100, Michael Vince wrote: > >>I was wondering if anyone knew if there was any details such as a time > >>frame and a rough figure of how much it would cost to get some good > >>results (or even full Sun Java certification) happening 1.5 Java on > >>i386/amd64 as I was hoping maybe I could persuade the company I work at > >>to donate. I also did notice that there was recently a funding > >>announcement for Java 1.5 on FreeBSD on the FreeBSD foundation web site > >>which is good news. > > > >I don't want to say too much about this just at the moment... > > I've been wondering why has there been such a silence on the > foundation-sponsored work. There hasn't been any status update to let us > know if we are still on schedule for a certified Java binary this month. > There hasn't even been a disclosure of the identity of the person who is > doing the TCK work. It would give more of a "community" feeling to the > whole process :-) I think thats a fair comment. I guess that for the certification work I don't feel its my position to be making any announcements on it in terms of progress, participation, etc. since its not my trumpet to blow. > In the past, we used to see regular status updates from you or Alexey, > and Nate Williams used to be even more prompt to discuss the state of > affairs, whether good or bad. Is this just a case of too much work / too > little time, or has something fundamentally changed in the way the BSD > Java team works? Has Sun demanded anything like that? Is it perhaps > related to a potential change of course to use Sun partner sources for > the certified binaries, rather than SCSL licensed ones? As is usual, in a vacuum all sorts of speculation abounds :). Since that vacuum is partly my fault, I'll try and clear it up. There is nothing sinister going on. The reason for the lack of updates, as far as I know, is simply a lot of busy people focusing on doing what they can. However, you make a good point about this taking away some of the community feeling that we've tried to engender with regards to BSD and Java. I've been thinking for some time about starting a BSD Java blog so I could keep people up to date with what I'm doing. Unfortunately I haven't got around to that :(. So, as a form of impromptu update, here is what I've been doing. I moved house/job/state in December (just before Christmas :) and have been in temporary housing since. Its taken a lot longer to find a house than I'd hoped. The move has really impacted the time I've had to work on things in a number of ways (most of my machines are in storage, those that aren't are in our bedroom rather than an office, which curtails the times I can hack on things; the ISP that was provided in the temporary housing has been very flaky, with long periods of down time, bounced email, etc.; I've swapped a 20 minute commute for a 2 hour commute; new job is keeping me busy). So, in short, I've had a lot less time for Java than I've had previously. That means there are still a lot of things that I'd hoped to do which hasn't happened (e.g. the plugin still won't compile against Firefox 1.5). Having said that, I've been helping as much as possible with the certification process. With the constraints on my time this has mostly meant giving advice and answering questions, I'm not the principal person doing the work. In addition, thanks to support from the FreeBSD Foundation, major contributions from Kurt Miller and Christos Zoulas, patches from the community, and some smaller changes from me, we have a patchset 3 for 1.5.0 almost ready to go which should be solid enough for production use (at your own risk, of course). FWIW, here is my current TODO list as well, in case people are interested. These are in some sort of order, although its no guarantee of what order they'll be worked on :-). 1. Make the 1.5.0 plugin compile and work with Firefox 1.5+. There have been patches floating around for a while to make it compile, but the resulting plugin doesn't actually work. Some people have also had some success compiling it against Mozilla and then using it with Firefox 1.5+, but that is obviously a PITA. 2. Make the plugin work on amd64. I had some changes that would make it compile (with Firefox 1.0), but it didn't work (the plugin code wasn't 64 bit clean, neither was the browser interface for it). I'm hoping that Firefox 1.5 helps in this, but we need to solve 1. first. 3. Port the Mustang (1.6) beta. I'd really love to be able to have a patchset soon after 1.6 releases. 4. Get jbootstrap able to bootstrap the 1.4 build. It currently can bootstrap 1.3, but thats of limited usefulness at the moment. If I can bootstrap 1.4, then I can use that to bootstrap 1.5 and we don't need the Linux JDK to bootstrap anymore. 5. Port to sparc64. I have some sparc64 hardware, but its in storage. 6. Port to ia64. I have some ia64 hardware, but again its in storage. Hopefully that helps to feel some of the void. -- Greg Lewis Email : glewis@eyesbeyond.com Eyes Beyond Web : http://www.eyesbeyond.com Information Technology FreeBSD : glewis@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 23 21:38:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97BCC16A429 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 21:38:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from past@ebs.gr) Received: from fly.ebs.gr (fly.ebs.gr [83.171.239.113]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 125A443D79 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 21:38:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from past@ebs.gr) Received: from ebs.gr (root@hal.ebs.gr [10.1.1.2]) by fly.ebs.gr (8.12.9p1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k2NLc1iK050324; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 23:38:01 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from past@ebs.gr) Received: from [10.1.1.200] (pptp.ebs.gr [10.1.1.200]) by ebs.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k2NLc3UW015441; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 23:38:07 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from past@ebs.gr) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.385 [268.2.5/284]); Thu, 23 Mar 2006 23:37:54 +0200 Message-ID: <44231532.4010301@ebs.gr> Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 23:37:54 +0200 From: Panagiotis Astithas Organization: EBS Ltd. User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lewis References: <441A35AE.2020108@roq.com> <20060321225113.GA53948@misty.eyesbeyond.com> <4422840E.8000704@ebs.gr> <20060323174325.GA39967@misty.eyesbeyond.com> In-Reply-To: <20060323174325.GA39967@misty.eyesbeyond.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Java 1.5 donations X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 21:38:34 -0000 Greg Lewis wrote: > Hi Panagiotis, > > On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 01:18:38PM +0200, Panagiotis Astithas wrote: >> Greg Lewis wrote: >>> Hi Michael, >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 03:06:06PM +1100, Michael Vince wrote: >>>> I was wondering if anyone knew if there was any details such as a time >>>> frame and a rough figure of how much it would cost to get some good >>>> results (or even full Sun Java certification) happening 1.5 Java on >>>> i386/amd64 as I was hoping maybe I could persuade the company I work at >>>> to donate. I also did notice that there was recently a funding >>>> announcement for Java 1.5 on FreeBSD on the FreeBSD foundation web site >>>> which is good news. >>> I don't want to say too much about this just at the moment... >> I've been wondering why has there been such a silence on the >> foundation-sponsored work. There hasn't been any status update to let us >> know if we are still on schedule for a certified Java binary this month. >> There hasn't even been a disclosure of the identity of the person who is >> doing the TCK work. It would give more of a "community" feeling to the >> whole process :-) > > I think thats a fair comment. I guess that for the certification work > I don't feel its my position to be making any announcements on it in terms > of progress, participation, etc. since its not my trumpet to blow. > >> In the past, we used to see regular status updates from you or Alexey, >> and Nate Williams used to be even more prompt to discuss the state of >> affairs, whether good or bad. Is this just a case of too much work / too >> little time, or has something fundamentally changed in the way the BSD >> Java team works? Has Sun demanded anything like that? Is it perhaps >> related to a potential change of course to use Sun partner sources for >> the certified binaries, rather than SCSL licensed ones? > > As is usual, in a vacuum all sorts of speculation abounds :). Since that > vacuum is partly my fault, I'll try and clear it up. There is nothing > sinister going on. The reason for the lack of updates, as far as I know, > is simply a lot of busy people focusing on doing what they can. However, > you make a good point about this taking away some of the community feeling > that we've tried to engender with regards to BSD and Java. > > I've been thinking for some time about starting a BSD Java blog so I could > keep people up to date with what I'm doing. Unfortunately I haven't got > around to that :(. So, as a form of impromptu update, here is what I've > been doing. I moved house/job/state in December (just before Christmas :) > and have been in temporary housing since. Its taken a lot longer to find > a house than I'd hoped. The move has really impacted the time I've had > to work on things in a number of ways (most of my machines are in storage, > those that aren't are in our bedroom rather than an office, which curtails > the times I can hack on things; the ISP that was provided in the temporary > housing has been very flaky, with long periods of down time, bounced email, > etc.; I've swapped a 20 minute commute for a 2 hour commute; new job is > keeping me busy). So, in short, I've had a lot less time for Java than > I've had previously. That means there are still a lot of things that I'd > hoped to do which hasn't happened (e.g. the plugin still won't compile > against Firefox 1.5). Having said that, I've been helping as much as > possible with the certification process. With the constraints on my time > this has mostly meant giving advice and answering questions, I'm not > the principal person doing the work. In addition, thanks to support from > the FreeBSD Foundation, major contributions from Kurt Miller and Christos > Zoulas, patches from the community, and some smaller changes from me, we > have a patchset 3 for 1.5.0 almost ready to go which should be solid enough > for production use (at your own risk, of course). > > FWIW, here is my current TODO list as well, in case people are interested. > These are in some sort of order, although its no guarantee of what order > they'll be worked on :-). > > 1. Make the 1.5.0 plugin compile and work with Firefox 1.5+. There have > been patches floating around for a while to make it compile, but the > resulting plugin doesn't actually work. Some people have also had > some success compiling it against Mozilla and then using it with > Firefox 1.5+, but that is obviously a PITA. > 2. Make the plugin work on amd64. I had some changes that would make it > compile (with Firefox 1.0), but it didn't work (the plugin code wasn't > 64 bit clean, neither was the browser interface for it). I'm hoping > that Firefox 1.5 helps in this, but we need to solve 1. first. > 3. Port the Mustang (1.6) beta. I'd really love to be able to have a > patchset soon after 1.6 releases. > 4. Get jbootstrap able to bootstrap the 1.4 build. It currently can > bootstrap 1.3, but thats of limited usefulness at the moment. If > I can bootstrap 1.4, then I can use that to bootstrap 1.5 and we > don't need the Linux JDK to bootstrap anymore. > 5. Port to sparc64. I have some sparc64 hardware, but its in storage. > 6. Port to ia64. I have some ia64 hardware, but again its in storage. > > Hopefully that helps to feel some of the void. Thanks Greg, much appreciated. This was pretty much what I suspected (including your lack of free time :-)). 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