From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 12 20:25:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48FD116A401 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 20:25:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reichert@numachi.com) Received: from meisai.numachi.com (meisai.numachi.com [198.175.254.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 37C7943D5A for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 20:25:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reichert@numachi.com) Received: (qmail 82174 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2006 20:25:35 -0000 Received: from natto.numachi.com (198.175.254.216) by meisai.numachi.com with SMTP; 12 Mar 2006 20:25:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 99163 invoked by uid 1001); 12 Mar 2006 20:25:35 -0000 Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 15:25:35 -0500 From: Brian Reichert To: Anish Mistry Message-ID: <20060312202535.GH16991@numachi.com> References: <20060304224614.GD16991@numachi.com> <200603061631.02463.mistry.7@osu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200603061631.02463.mistry.7@osu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sony DSC, but no da* device? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 20:25:41 -0000 On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 04:30:54PM -0500, Anish Mistry wrote: > On Saturday 04 March 2006 17:46, Brian Reichert wrote: > > Instead, I only see the umass0 entry, and if I unplug this USB > > device, my kernel panics. > > > > Mar 4 17:28:42 chew kernel: ugen0: detached > > Mar 4 17:34:39 chew kernel: umass0: Sony Sony DSC, rev > > 2.00/6.00, addr 2 > > > > I'm running FreeBSD 6.0, and the device in question is a Sony > > DSC-T9 digital camera. > My Sony DSC camera works fine on -CURRENT. I believe the patches have > been merged back and will appear in 6.1. There should be a patch in > the USB archives that will get you up an running on 6.0. Hmm. I just today cvsup'ed kernel source for 6.1-PRERELEASE, and applied the patch referred to in usb/84608. Also, as reported in a thread about this PR, only chunk #3 applied cleanly. The installation of the new kernel however does not yeild a change in symptoms. I still only get a umass device, but no SCSI device. :/ (But my kernel doesn't panic, so I guess that's progress.) > -- > Anish Mistry -- Brian Reichert 55 Crystal Ave. #286 Daytime number: (603) 434-6842 Derry NH 03038-1725 USA BSD admin/developer at large From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 12 20:35:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BE5E16A401 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 20:35:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) Received: from mail.united-ware.com (am-productions.biz [69.61.164.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB00743D45 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 20:35:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (am-productions.biz [69.61.164.22]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.united-ware.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2CKmPa7011157 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 12 Mar 2006 15:48:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) From: Anish Mistry To: Brian Reichert Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 15:38:24 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <20060304224614.GD16991@numachi.com> <200603061631.02463.mistry.7@osu.edu> <20060312202535.GH16991@numachi.com> In-Reply-To: <20060312202535.GH16991@numachi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1946233.jHdDRxaimk"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200603121538.42227.mistry.7@osu.edu> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.5 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, J_CHICKENPOX_52,MYFREEBSD3 autolearn=failed version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on mail.united-ware.com X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88/1326/Sat Mar 11 15:33:54 2006 on mail.united-ware.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sony DSC, but no da* device? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 20:35:53 -0000 --nextPart1946233.jHdDRxaimk Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 12 March 2006 15:25, Brian Reichert wrote: > On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 04:30:54PM -0500, Anish Mistry wrote: > > On Saturday 04 March 2006 17:46, Brian Reichert wrote: > > > Instead, I only see the umass0 entry, and if I unplug this USB > > > device, my kernel panics. > > > > > > Mar 4 17:28:42 chew kernel: ugen0: detached > > > Mar 4 17:34:39 chew kernel: umass0: Sony Sony DSC, rev > > > 2.00/6.00, addr 2 > > > > > > I'm running FreeBSD 6.0, and the device in question is a Sony > > > DSC-T9 digital camera. > > > > My Sony DSC camera works fine on -CURRENT. I believe the patches > > have been merged back and will appear in 6.1. There should be a > > patch in the USB archives that will get you up an running on 6.0. > > Hmm. I just today cvsup'ed kernel source for 6.1-PRERELEASE, and > applied the patch referred to in usb/84608. Also, as reported in > a thread about this PR, only chunk #3 applied cleanly. > > The installation of the new kernel however does not yeild a change > in symptoms. I still only get a umass device, but no SCSI device.=20 > :/ Hmmm...I don't know anything else to try. Before the umass worked=20 with my camera, I just put the camera in PTP mode and used gphoto2 on=20 the ugen device and that worked. It wasn't as convenient as a mass=20 storage device. > > (But my kernel doesn't panic, so I guess that's progress.) I used to get this too, I'd call it a big improvement not to panic. :) =2D-=20 Anish Mistry --nextPart1946233.jHdDRxaimk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBEFIbSxqA5ziudZT0RAufQAKDObuLEsAbK3rRU7lq15QYkbRqvwACgte7+ GH2UpLUoMET/iDg1rPhmtEw= =6rVM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1946233.jHdDRxaimk-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 13 02:28:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9DA16A401 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 02:28:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iedowse@iedowse.com) Received: from nowhere.iedowse.com (nowhere.iedowse.com [82.195.144.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8AE5E43D45 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 02:28:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iedowse@iedowse.com) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=iedowse.com) by nowhere.iedowse.com via local-iedowse id ; 13 Mar 2006 02:28:26 +0000 (GMT) To: Anish Mistry In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 12 Mar 2006 15:38:24 EST." <200603121538.42227.mistry.7@osu.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 02:28:24 +0000 From: Ian Dowse Message-ID: <200603130228.aa82804@nowhere.iedowse.com> Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sony DSC, but no da* device? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 02:28:28 -0000 In message <200603121538.42227.mistry.7@osu.edu>, Anish Mistry writes: >Hmmm...I don't know anything else to try. Before the umass worked >with my camera, I just put the camera in PTP mode and used gphoto2 on >the ugen device and that worked. It wasn't as convenient as a mass >storage device. There is a quirk entry in umass.c for revision 5.00 of the DSC camera, but I think Brian reported he has 6.00? It would be worth finding the "USB_PRODUCT_SONY_DSC, 0x0500" entry and trying adding a new entry for revision 6.00 immediately after it, e.g: { USB_VENDOR_SONY, USB_PRODUCT_SONY_DSC, 0x0600, UMASS_PROTO_RBC | UMASS_PROTO_CBI, RBC_PAD_TO_12 }, Ian From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 13 13:32:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC0516A401 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:32:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49DCF43D45 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:32:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 18213 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2006 00:32:40 +1100 Received: from localhost (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Mar 2006 00:32:40 +1100 Received: from 203-158-42-196.dyn.iinet.net.au (203-158-42-196.dyn.iinet.net.au [203.158.42.196]) by webmail.meijome.net (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:32:40 -0300 Message-ID: <20060313103240.ie1bevcdijs4coko@webmail.meijome.net> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:32:40 -0300 From: freebsd@meijome.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) Cc: Subject: What laptop do you recommend? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:32:42 -0000 hi everyone, I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known to work WELL with freeBSD? e.g.: ACPI with no problems (and as many features as possible) PATA / SATA with no problems all other basic stuff (graphics, NIC, Wireless g, sound, touchpad ,etc ) should work too, of course Looking into either Intel duo Core or AMD64 chips. >From what I've read, IBMs seem to have quite good support, so do DELLs (though they seem chunkier than other laptops). I usually get Toshiba, but I don't think they are so well supported. Thanks in advance for any advice you can share :) Best regards, Beto From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 13 14:05:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B28BA16A420; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:05:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@neu.net) Received: from orion.dandy.net (orion.dandy.net [209.128.224.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 694D243D45; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:05:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andy@neu.net) Received: from Mira.dandy.net (mira.dandy.net [209.128.224.15]) by orion.dandy.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92CFF5C4C1; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:05:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:05:34 -0500 (EST) From: andy@neu.net X-X-Sender: andyneu@Mira.dandy.net To: freebsd@meijome.net In-Reply-To: <20060313103240.ie1bevcdijs4coko@webmail.meijome.net> Message-ID: References: <20060313103240.ie1bevcdijs4coko@webmail.meijome.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What laptop do you recommend? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:05:35 -0000 On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 freebsd@meijome.net wrote: > hi everyone, > I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known to work > WELL with freeBSD? e.g.: > > ACPI with no problems (and as many features as possible) > PATA / SATA with no problems > all other basic stuff (graphics, NIC, Wireless g, sound, > touchpad ,etc ) should work too, of course > > Looking into either Intel duo Core or AMD64 chips. > > >From what I've read, IBMs seem to have quite good support, so do DELLs > (though they seem chunkier than other laptops). I usually get Toshiba, > but I don't think they are so well supported. > > Thanks in advance for any advice you can share :) > > Best regards, > Beto > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I have an IBM Thinkpad R51, it works very well and I reccomend it highly. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 13 14:14:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16F8316A401; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:14:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brunner@nic-naa.net) Received: from nic-naa.net (nic-naa.net [65.99.1.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8544043D49; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:14:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brunner@nic-naa.net) Received: from nic-naa.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nic-naa.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2DEDiLR053655; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:13:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from brunner@nic-naa.net) Message-Id: <200603131413.k2DEDiLR053655@nic-naa.net> To: andy@neu.net In-reply-to: References: <20060313103240.ie1bevcdijs4coko@webmail.meijome.net> Comments: In-reply-to andy@neu.net message dated "Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:05:34 -0500." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <53653.1142259224.1@nic-naa.net> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:13:44 -0500 From: Eric Brunner-Williams Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd@meijome.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What laptop do you recommend? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:14:16 -0000 I've a related question, but my primary constraints are physical. I'm looking for a lightweight and low-profile package, like the fabulous (and wicked prone to hard failure) Sony 505 series of products. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 13 14:31:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE86E16A424 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:31:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg (smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 75A2D43D55 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:31:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 27246 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2006 14:31:10 -0000 Received: from maxwell2.pacific.net.sg (203.120.90.192) by smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg with SMTP; 13 Mar 2006 14:31:10 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.107] ([210.24.122.26]) by maxwell2.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id <20060313143109.JUWY28656.maxwell2.pacific.net.sg@[192.168.0.107]>; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:31:09 +0800 Message-ID: <4415820E.5040504@pacific.net.sg> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:30:38 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: oceanare pte ltd User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060112) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Brunner-Williams References: <20060313103240.ie1bevcdijs4coko@webmail.meijome.net> <200603131413.k2DEDiLR053655@nic-naa.net> In-Reply-To: <200603131413.k2DEDiLR053655@nic-naa.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What laptop do you recommend? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:31:20 -0000 Hi, Eric Brunner-Williams wrote: > I've a related question, but my primary constraints are physical. I'm looking > for a lightweight and low-profile package, like the fabulous (and wicked prone > to hard failure) Sony 505 series of products. take a look at the P-series from Fujitsu. I ran FreeBSD on a P2120. It was pretty good with the exception of battery life. The new P7xxx series used the Pentium M as a CPU which is better supported by FreeBSD. Erich From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 13 14:45:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A32916A423; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:44:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@yazzy.org) Received: from mail.yazzy.net (mail.yazzy.net [217.8.140.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2260143D4C; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:44:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@yazzy.org) Received: from mail.witelcom.com ([84.247.144.144] helo=marcin) by mail.yazzy.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (YazzY.org) id 1FIoI2-0001r9-8n; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:44:54 +0100 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:44:57 +0100 From: Marcin Jessa To: freebsd@meijome.net Message-Id: <20060313154457.1d0b8ded.lists@yazzy.org> In-Reply-To: <20060313103240.ie1bevcdijs4coko@webmail.meijome.net> References: <20060313103240.ie1bevcdijs4coko@webmail.meijome.net> Organization: YazzY.org X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.0 (GTK+ 2.8.12; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What laptop do you recommend? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:45:01 -0000 On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:32:40 -0300 freebsd@meijome.net wrote: > hi everyone, > I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known to work > WELL with freeBSD? e.g.: > > ACPI with no problems (and as many features as possible) > PATA / SATA with no problems > all other basic stuff (graphics, NIC, Wireless g, sound, > touchpad ,etc ) should work too, of course > > Looking into either Intel duo Core or AMD64 chips. > > >From what I've read, IBMs seem to have quite good support, so do > >DELLs > (though they seem chunkier than other laptops). I usually get Toshiba, > but I don't think they are so well supported. > > Thanks in advance for any advice you can share :) I've Thinkpad R50e. Everything works fine and it makes an excellent work tool : http://www.yazzy.org/configs/freebsd/thinkpad/ Price of those thinkpads is yet another pluss. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 13 15:22:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8432F16A424 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:22:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@wiliweld.com) Received: from typhoon.he.net (typhoon.he.net [64.62.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 15EAF43D48 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:22:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bill@wiliweld.com) Received: from liam.billschoolcraft.com ([63.204.157.14]) by typhoon.he.net for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 07:22:53 -0800 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 07:22:53 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Schoolcraft X-X-Sender: bill@liam.billschoolcraft.com To: andy@neu.net In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20060313103240.ie1bevcdijs4coko@webmail.meijome.net> System-ID: [en] (SuSE-9.3 64-bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd@meijome.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What laptop do you recommend? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:22:57 -0000 At Mon, 13 Mar 2006 it looks like andy@neu.net composed: > I have an IBM Thinkpad R51, it works very well and I reccomend it highly. Do you have the wireless working too on that model, the integrated chip? TIA -- Bill Schoolcraft | http://wiliweld.com "If your life was full of nothing but sunshine, you would just be a desert." From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 13 16:58:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E004016A400; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:58:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from postal2.es.net (postal2.es.net [198.128.3.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD0243D45; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:58:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal2.es.net (Postal Node 2) with ESMTP (SSL) id IBA74465; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 08:58:30 -0800 Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 98EC545041; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 08:58:29 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd@meijome.net In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:32:40 -0300." <20060313103240.ie1bevcdijs4coko@webmail.meijome.net> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 08:58:29 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20060313165829.98EC545041@ptavv.es.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What laptop do you recommend? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:58:40 -0000 > Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:32:40 -0300 > From: freebsd@meijome.net > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > hi everyone, > I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known to work > WELL with freeBSD? e.g.: > > ACPI with no problems (and as many features as possible) > PATA / SATA with no problems > all other basic stuff (graphics, NIC, Wireless g, sound, > touchpad ,etc ) should work too, of course > > Looking into either Intel duo Core or AMD64 chips. > > >From what I've read, IBMs seem to have quite good support, so do DELLs > (though they seem chunkier than other laptops). I usually get Toshiba, > but I don't think they are so well supported. I have a new Lenovo (IBM) T43 (266875U) that is working well. If you get an integrated A/B/G card, it's Athros based and works very well with FreeBSD and the wpa_supplicant. The internal Winmodem is useless, though. The GE is a Broadcom which works well. Graphics is an ATI Radeon, so you will want to have Radeontool to turn it off. ACPI has no problems and, if you load acpi_ibm, it provides lots of features. Sound is snd_ich and works fine. I disable the touchpad, so I really can't say much about it. If the touchpad is disabled, it has a 3 button mouse. I have not been successful with a suspend/resume cycle while running X. It seems to suspend, but never resumes when in X. If I'm on a vty, it does resume, but the display characters are garbage. "vidcontrol mode 80x25" fixes it, though. I can probably stick this into rc.resume. It's only a 2GHz Pentium-M, though. The new T60s are Core Duo systems, but we don't have one, yet. One was just ordered last week, so I hope to get to play with one soon. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 13 17:06:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D682816A400 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:06:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schmidtm@mathematik.uni-marburg.de) Received: from mail.staatsfeind.org (staatsfeind.org [217.20.114.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81DAC43D91 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:06:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from schmidtm@mathematik.uni-marburg.de) Received: from c0re.v6.staatsfeind.lan (p54AE2F1D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.174.47.29]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.staatsfeind.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2671F60EE; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:06:38 +0100 (CET) Received: by c0re.v6.staatsfeind.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E534A33; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:06:30 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:06:30 +0100 From: Matthias Schmidt To: freebsd@meijome.net Message-ID: <20060313170630.GA71135@staatsfeind.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd@meijome.net, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <20060313103240.ie1bevcdijs4coko@webmail.meijome.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060313103240.ie1bevcdijs4coko@webmail.meijome.net> Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What laptop do you recommend? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:06:59 -0000 Hi, * freebsd@meijome.net wrote: > hi everyone, > I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known to work > WELL with freeBSD? e.g.: My personal favorite is an IBM Thinkpad Laptop. I have a Thinkpad T43 and T23 and both models run FreeBSD 6.0. Have a look at my Thinkpad+FreeBSD page: http://www.mathematik.uni-marburg.de/~schmidtm/ibm/ > ACPI with no problems (and as many features as possible) ACPI events, Suspend2Ram, acpi_ibm, SpeedStep work fine. > PATA / SATA with no problems The SATA controller (Intel ICH6) of the T43 works flawlessly. > all other basic stuff (graphics, NIC, Wireless g, sound, > touchpad ,etc ) should work too, of course * Athereos Wireless (a/b/g) with ath(4) * Broadcom Ethernet with bge(4) * sound-chip with snd_ich(4) * ATI Radeoon with Xorg 6.8 (no DRM support at the moment) * Cardbus support works Matthias From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 13 17:17:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B0F516A42D for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:17:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from postal4.es.net (postal4.es.net [198.124.252.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D224743D45 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:17:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal4.es.net (Postal Node 4) with ESMTP (SSL) id IBA74465; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:17:10 -0800 Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 12DA745041; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:17:09 -0800 (PST) To: Matthias Schmidt In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:06:30 +0100." <20060313170630.GA71135@staatsfeind.org> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:17:09 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20060313171709.12DA745041@ptavv.es.net> Cc: freebsd@meijome.net, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What laptop do you recommend? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:17:13 -0000 > Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:06:30 +0100 > From: Matthias Schmidt > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > Hi, > > * freebsd@meijome.net wrote: > > hi everyone, > > I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known to work > > WELL with freeBSD? e.g.: > > My personal favorite is an IBM Thinkpad Laptop. I have a Thinkpad T43 > and T23 and both models run FreeBSD 6.0. Have a look at my > Thinkpad+FreeBSD page: > > http://www.mathematik.uni-marburg.de/~schmidtm/ibm/ Oops! I forgot one VERY important detail. The BIOS update on 29-Nov-2005 is very important! Without it there were several problems with ACPI and suspend/resume. Be sure to update the BIOS and Embedded Controller firmware (available at the Lenovo support site (http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/homeLenovo.do?country=us). -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 13 18:14:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA05316A420 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:14:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tarkhil@webmail.sub.ru) Received: from techno.sub.ru (webmail.sub.ru [213.247.139.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3200043D53 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:14:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tarkhil@webmail.sub.ru) Received: (qmail 87416 invoked by uid 0); 13 Mar 2006 18:14:43 -0000 Received: from webmail.sub.ru (HELO localhost) (213.247.139.22) by techno.sub.ru with SMTP; 13 Mar 2006 18:14:43 -0000 Received: from unknown ([213.247.139.22]) by localhost (webmail.sub.ru [213.247.139.22]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 79419-17; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:14:39 +0300 (MSK) Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.72?) (tarkhil%sub.ru@217.73.115.223) by techno.sub.ru with SMTP; 13 Mar 2006 18:14:39 -0000 Message-ID: <4415B5D7.6080401@webmail.sub.ru> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:11:35 +0300 From: Alex Povolotsky User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060310) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd-usb@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mail.sub.ru Cc: Subject: USB-to-IDE problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:14:46 -0000 Hello! I've bought NEC DVD/CD-RW drive and some cheap aluminium external USB 2.0 case, put them together and prepared to be happy. It wrote to disks without a problem, but next day it failed 5 times of 5. I've connected it to annother FreeBSD box (server this time), and it works. On both computer, kernel issues warnings Mar 13 21:01:26 tarkhil kernel: umass0: Unsupported ATAPI command 0x46 but it doesn't seem to have much value. Kernel identifies the drive as Mar 13 21:00:01 tarkhil kernel: umass0: Genesys Logic USB TO IDE, rev 2.00/0.33, addr 2 Mar 13 21:00:01 tarkhil root: Unknown device: uhub3 Mar 13 21:00:01 tarkhil root: Attached: umass0 Mar 13 21:00:04 tarkhil kernel: cd0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 Mar 13 21:00:04 tarkhil kernel: cd0: <_NEC CDRW/DVD CB1100B NS00> Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device Mar 13 21:00:04 tarkhil kernel: cd0: 1.000MB/s transfers However, on server identification is slightly different Mar 13 20:40:57 tarkhil-test2 kernel: umass0: vendor 0x05e3 USB TO IDE, rev 2.00/0.33, addr 2 Mar 13 20:41:06 tarkhil-test2 kernel: cd0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 Mar 13 20:41:06 tarkhil-test2 kernel: cd0: <_NEC CDRW/DVD CB1100B NS00> Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device Mar 13 20:41:06 tarkhil-test2 kernel: cd0: 40.000MB/s transfers So, on notebook every attempt to write disk sooner or later results in Track 01: 35 of 331 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf 99%] 10.2x.cdrecord: Input/output error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: retryable error CDB: 2A 00 00 00 46 3C 00 00 1F 00 status: 0x0 (GOOD STATUS) resid: 63488 cmd finished after 0.041s timeout 40s write track data: error after 36823040 bytes cdrecord: A write error occured. cdrecord: Please properly read the error message above. cdrecord: Input/output error. test unit ready: scsi sendcmd: retryable error CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 status: 0x0 (GOOD STATUS) cmd finished after 45.003s timeout 40s cdrecord: Input/output error. flush cache: scsi sendcmd: retryable error CDB: 35 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 status: 0x0 (GOOD STATUS) cmd finished after 250.003s timeout 120s Trouble flushing the cache usbdevs -v shows Controller /dev/usb3: addr 1: high speed, self powered, config 1, EHCI root hub(0x0000), NEC(0x0000), rev 1.00 port 1 powered port 2 addr 2: high speed, self powered, config 1, USB TO IDE(0x0701), Genesys Logic(0x05e3), rev 0.33 USB controller is cardbus Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: ohci1: mem 0x88001000-0x88001fff irq 11 at device 0.1 on cardbus1 Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: ohci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: usb2: OHCI version 1.0 Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: usb2: on ohci1 Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: usb2: USB revision 1.0 Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: uhub2: NEC OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: cardbus1: Resource not specified in CIS: id=10, size=100 Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: ehci0: mem 0x88002000-0x880020ff irq 11 at device 0.2 on cardbus1 Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: ehci_pci_attach: companion usb1 Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: ehci_pci_attach: companion usb2 Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: usb3: EHCI version 1.0 Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: usb3: companion controllers, 3 ports each: usb1 usb2 Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: usb3: on ehci0 Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: usb3: USB revision 2.0 Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: uhub3: NEC EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: uhub3: 5 ports with 5 removable, self powered Notebook is 5.3-RELEASE, server is 6.0-RELEASE. Maybe I should upgrade noteook to 6.0? Alex. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 13 18:20:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6BFE16A440; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:20:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (vc4-2-0-87.dsl.netrack.net [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC0143D4C; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:20:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1] (may be forged)) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k2DIJBg4077725; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:19:11 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:19:29 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20060313.111929.29516162.imp@bsdimp.com> To: tarkhil@webmail.sub.ru From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <4415B5D7.6080401@webmail.sub.ru> References: <4415B5D7.6080401@webmail.sub.ru> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0 (harmony.bsdimp.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:19:12 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-usb@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB-to-IDE problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:20:33 -0000 In message: <4415B5D7.6080401@webmail.sub.ru> Alex Povolotsky writes: : Hello! : : I've bought NEC DVD/CD-RW drive and some cheap aluminium external USB : 2.0 case, put them together and prepared to be happy. : : It wrote to disks without a problem, but next day it failed 5 times of : 5. I've connected it to annother FreeBSD box (server this time), and it : works. : : On both computer, kernel issues warnings : : Mar 13 21:01:26 tarkhil kernel: umass0: Unsupported ATAPI command 0x46 : : but it doesn't seem to have much value. : : Kernel identifies the drive as : : Mar 13 21:00:01 tarkhil kernel: umass0: Genesys Logic USB TO IDE, rev : 2.00/0.33, addr 2 : Mar 13 21:00:01 tarkhil root: Unknown device: uhub3 : Mar 13 21:00:01 tarkhil root: Attached: umass0 : Mar 13 21:00:04 tarkhil kernel: cd0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 : Mar 13 21:00:04 tarkhil kernel: cd0: <_NEC CDRW/DVD CB1100B NS00> : Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device : Mar 13 21:00:04 tarkhil kernel: cd0: 1.000MB/s transfers : : However, on server identification is slightly different : : Mar 13 20:40:57 tarkhil-test2 kernel: umass0: vendor 0x05e3 USB TO IDE, : rev 2.00/0.33, addr 2 : Mar 13 20:41:06 tarkhil-test2 kernel: cd0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 : Mar 13 20:41:06 tarkhil-test2 kernel: cd0: <_NEC CDRW/DVD CB1100B NS00> : Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device : Mar 13 20:41:06 tarkhil-test2 kernel: cd0: 40.000MB/s transfers : : So, on notebook every attempt to write disk sooner or later results in : Track 01: 35 of 331 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf 99%] : 10.2x.cdrecord: Input/output error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: retryable error : CDB: 2A 00 00 00 46 3C 00 00 1F 00 : status: 0x0 (GOOD STATUS) : resid: 63488 : cmd finished after 0.041s timeout 40s : : write track data: error after 36823040 bytes : cdrecord: A write error occured. : cdrecord: Please properly read the error message above. : cdrecord: Input/output error. test unit ready: scsi sendcmd: retryable error : CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 : status: 0x0 (GOOD STATUS) : cmd finished after 45.003s timeout 40s : cdrecord: Input/output error. flush cache: scsi sendcmd: retryable error : CDB: 35 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 : status: 0x0 (GOOD STATUS) : cmd finished after 250.003s timeout 120s : Trouble flushing the cache : : : usbdevs -v shows : : Controller /dev/usb3: : addr 1: high speed, self powered, config 1, EHCI root hub(0x0000), : NEC(0x0000), rev 1.00 : port 1 powered : port 2 addr 2: high speed, self powered, config 1, USB TO IDE(0x0701), : Genesys Logic(0x05e3), rev 0.33 : : USB controller is cardbus : : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: ohci1: mem : 0x88001000-0x88001fff irq 11 at device 0.1 on cardbus1 : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: ohci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: usb2: OHCI version 1.0 : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: usb2: on ohci1 : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: usb2: USB revision 1.0 : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: uhub2: NEC OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev : 1.00/1.00, addr 1 : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self : powered : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: cardbus1: Resource not specified in CIS: : id=10, : size=100 : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: ehci0: mem 0x88002000-0x880020ff irq 11 at device 0.2 on cardbus1 : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: ehci_pci_attach: companion usb1 : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: ehci_pci_attach: companion usb2 : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: usb3: EHCI version 1.0 : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: usb3: companion controllers, 3 ports : each: usb1 : usb2 : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: usb3: on ehci0 : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: usb3: USB revision 2.0 : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: uhub3: NEC EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev : 2.00/1.00, addr 1 : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: uhub3: 5 ports with 5 removable, self : powered : : Notebook is 5.3-RELEASE, server is 6.0-RELEASE. Maybe I should upgrade : noteook to 6.0? 6.1 will have a bunch of improvements in this area. Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 13 18:48:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA89716A400 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:48:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schmidtm@mathematik.uni-marburg.de) Received: from mail.staatsfeind.org (staatsfeind.org [217.20.114.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EC6F43D45 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:48:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from schmidtm@mathematik.uni-marburg.de) Received: from c0re.v6.staatsfeind.lan (p54AE2F1D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.174.47.29]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.staatsfeind.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60E5B60EE; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:48:33 +0100 (CET) Received: by c0re.v6.staatsfeind.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6BDBB33; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:48:27 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:48:27 +0100 From: Matthias Schmidt To: Kevin Oberman Message-ID: <20060313184827.GA74604@staatsfeind.org> Mail-Followup-To: Kevin Oberman , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <20060313170630.GA71135@staatsfeind.org> <20060313171709.12DA745041@ptavv.es.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060313171709.12DA745041@ptavv.es.net> Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What laptop do you recommend? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:48:36 -0000 Moin, * Kevin Oberman wrote: > > Oops! I forgot one VERY important detail. The BIOS update on 29-Nov-2005 > is very important! Without it there were several problems with ACPI and > suspend/resume. Can you describe the problems? Does suspend while running X works now? Greets Matthias From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 13 19:06:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6075916A420 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:06:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew.spott@gmail.com) Received: from uproxy.gmail.com (uproxy.gmail.com [66.249.92.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E3EE43D5A for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:06:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andrew.spott@gmail.com) Received: by uproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j40so642016ugd for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:06:32 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Od0xzGxpSyuR/gIB+QBL3Ze2W0k9d+LqztWOAeXEOLPDWnTLpx/dl1DAp4u2rdRv4omqLMH2eSMkQEABhUw2VFwCgz2+dRQ4l9fQCleULsRv39CL/Wj60Z4sHUmb4OyJi9KmX0RcSYnq3hU3na8BZSZeYH4WLJqyQhgLj5/ouKU= Received: by 10.67.20.16 with SMTP id x16mr3982805ugi; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:06:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.244.6 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:06:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4ef61ea20603131106s2fc536ap10f7c8cdda6b8572@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:06:32 -0800 From: "Andrew Spott" To: "Kevin Oberman" , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20060313184827.GA74604@staatsfeind.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060313170630.GA71135@staatsfeind.org> <20060313171709.12DA745041@ptavv.es.net> <20060313184827.GA74604@staatsfeind.org> Cc: Subject: Re: What laptop do you recommend? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:06:36 -0000 my t42p works perfectly, and the X series is rumored to work great as well. -Andrew On 3/13/06, Matthias Schmidt wrote: > Moin, > > * Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > > Oops! I forgot one VERY important detail. The BIOS update on 29-Nov-200= 5 > > is very important! Without it there were several problems with ACPI and > > suspend/resume. > > Can you describe the problems? Does suspend while running X works now? > > Greets > > Matthias > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 13 23:21:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4DD16A400 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 23:21:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from postal2.es.net (postal2.es.net [198.128.3.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99F7C43D48 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 23:21:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal2.es.net (Postal Node 2) with ESMTP (SSL) id IBA74465; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:21:07 -0800 Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 0DBAC45041; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:21:07 -0800 (PST) To: Matthias Schmidt In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:48:27 +0100." <20060313184827.GA74604@staatsfeind.org> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:21:07 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20060313232107.0DBAC45041@ptavv.es.net> Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What laptop do you recommend? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 23:21:11 -0000 > Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:48:27 +0100 > From: Matthias Schmidt > > Moin, > > * Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > > Oops! I forgot one VERY important detail. The BIOS update on 29-Nov-2005 > > is very important! Without it there were several problems with ACPI and > > suspend/resume. > > Can you describe the problems? Does suspend while running X works now? > > Greets At least I could not suspend and resume. I mean that I could not at all. It would suspend, but nothing would get the moon to turn off or get any other response except a forced power-off. Several other things seemed to be unstable according to the two people in my group that have them. Both were running the previous BIOS dated Sep. 2005. Mine came with the 29-Nov version installed, so I don't have personal experience. I am running -current with ACPI and it's not causing any problems. Note that I am running without APIC_IO in my kernel. I've been thinking about trying APIC_IO, but I suspect it will fail completely. I just tried changing hw.syscons.sc_no_suspend_vtswitch to 0 and I can now suspend and resume from X, but I no longer had a cursor. Restarting moused restored the cursor, so I guess everything is now working. ( can put a command in rc.resume to kick moused. Oddly, turning off hw.syscons.sc_no_suspend_vtswitch fixed my vtys, too. I do like that the BIOS in the T43 allows boot-time access to full BIOS configuration, unlike earlier versions which required ps2 which had to run under DOS or Windows. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 13 23:32:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 577C416A428 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 23:32:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F1943D46 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 23:32:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 2708 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2006 10:32:24 +1100 Received: from andromeda.lef.com.au (HELO localhost) (210.8.93.2) by serviciosdelavilla.com.ar with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 14 Mar 2006 10:32:23 +1100 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:32:18 +1100 From: Norberto Meijome To: "Kevin Oberman" Message-ID: <20060314103218.1307ec3f@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20060313165829.98EC545041@ptavv.es.net> References: <20060313103240.ie1bevcdijs4coko@webmail.meijome.net> <20060313165829.98EC545041@ptavv.es.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.0.0 (GTK+ 2.8.12; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What laptop do you recommend? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 23:32:25 -0000 On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 08:58:29 -0800 "Kevin Oberman" wrote: > I have not been successful with a suspend/resume cycle while running > X. It seems to suspend, but never resumes when in X. If I'm on a vty, > it does resume, but the display characters are garbage. "vidcontrol > mode 80x25" fixes it, though. I can probably stick this into > rc.resume. Thanks for the info. I had a similar issue with suspend/resume from within X (using APM though), using my Toshiba Tecra A2. hw.syscons.sc_no_suspend_vtswitch=1 fixed it. i get some garbling in some semitransparent aterm windows, but nothing major at all. Beto From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 14 00:34:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F40E416A422 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 00:34:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 480BE43D6D for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 00:34:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 4955 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2006 11:34:18 +1100 Received: from andromeda.lef.com.au (HELO localhost) (210.8.93.2) by serviciosdelavilla.com.ar with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 14 Mar 2006 11:34:17 +1100 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:34:12 +1100 From: Norberto Meijome To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060314113412.3470fde5@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20060313103240.ie1bevcdijs4coko@webmail.meijome.net> References: <20060313103240.ie1bevcdijs4coko@webmail.meijome.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.0.0 (GTK+ 2.8.12; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What laptop do you recommend? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 00:34:39 -0000 On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:32:40 -0300 freebsd@meijome.net wrote: > hi everyone, > I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known to work > WELL with freeBSD? e.g.: > > ACPI with no problems (and as many features as possible) > PATA / SATA with no problems > all other basic stuff (graphics, NIC, Wireless g, sound, > touchpad ,etc ) should work too, of course > > Looking into either Intel duo Core or AMD64 chips. > > >From what I've read, IBMs seem to have quite good support, so do > >DELLs > (though they seem chunkier than other laptops). I usually get Toshiba, > but I don't think they are so well supported. > > Thanks in advance for any advice you can share :) > > Best regards, > Beto What about DELL laptops? any model I should stick to? Thinkpads are a bit pricey for me atm. (Greg Lehey i think was using dells... could well be wrong...) Alternatively, has anyone got a model of *new* Toshiba laptops fully working ? thx From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 14 04:01:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B85C716A41F for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 04:01:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.dean@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4E343D45 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 04:01:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dave.dean@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z6so610978nzd for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:01:34 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=nG6hV7xZwVDDTzl0liqrGWCltubIgNDrJE3vYl9c7yWOPhm5lvl3Tvgg4XuIMIp2NM2sXMuhuE6q0MwXFhPrMKh+BDTiGMz3/RYsOvwLb9YRSvJlyyjD6b/BKwmWoB9XwIjJaxAkMUstrU+ynNKL8ly1jQ/Qt/eF8yx/Fzo61c4= Received: by 10.35.36.13 with SMTP id o13mr351009pyj; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:01:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.36.14 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:01:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <163a4b210603132001j18a106e2xa693212db7cb11f4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:01:04 +1100 From: "David Dean" To: "Norberto Meijome" In-Reply-To: <20060314113412.3470fde5@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060313103240.ie1bevcdijs4coko@webmail.meijome.net> <20060314113412.3470fde5@localhost> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What laptop do you recommend? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 04:01:35 -0000 mm, well I run a Dell 700m .. the widescreen 12" one with built-in wireless= . I'm using the fantastic iwi-firmware (so yes, the wireless works), and 855patch to get 1280x800 (the native res of the lcd) working. I have a very quick document on what I did to get that going at http://bratdot.info/cub1cle/projects/700m/ Accelerated graphics have never worked, but I just run Konsoles and Kmail .. so I dont miss it. The winmodem doesnt work, but thats about it. I havent missed anything else that didnt work 'out of the box' on 6. I ran 5.4 on there for a while as well, and the only thing I had to add was UHCI to the generic kernel (so I could do backups before the heat-death of the universe). YMMV, but they are cheap, small and light. -David On 3/14/06, Norberto Meijome wrote: > On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:32:40 -0300 > freebsd@meijome.net wrote: > > > hi everyone, > > I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known to work > > WELL with freeBSD? e.g.: > > > > ACPI with no problems (and as many features as possible) > > PATA / SATA with no problems > > all other basic stuff (graphics, NIC, Wireless g, sound, > > touchpad ,etc ) should work too, of course > > > > Looking into either Intel duo Core or AMD64 chips. > > > > >From what I've read, IBMs seem to have quite good support, so do > > >DELLs > > (though they seem chunkier than other laptops). I usually get Toshiba, > > but I don't think they are so well supported. > > > > Thanks in advance for any advice you can share :) > > > > Best regards, > > Beto > > What about DELL laptops? any model I should stick to? Thinkpads are a > bit pricey for me atm. (Greg Lehey i think was using dells... could > well be wrong...) > > Alternatively, has anyone got a model of *new* Toshiba laptops > fully working ? > > > thx > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > -- David Dean +61 402 55 6068 dave.dean@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 14 04:21:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 040E916A400 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 04:21:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jimmyblim@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8DF43D48 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 04:21:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jimmyblim@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id q3so1396270nzb for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:21:14 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=eN9BTpV5jgSUTWKRDUIHZcHksmF1aWzMSChX/YvGgxRU3ryYDzEprNacIff1ksY4btwG1NFhCMgf/EJEseLKAIUt2PvFd4tC+y4qNsH5J1UO0XgHUcfVI9RNFD+2bqc/iLQYVGhlT6mZeQJ0rPvfVzsBEp9kOaYk7QAVCs4Fa7A= Received: by 10.65.113.2 with SMTP id q2mr1876401qbm; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:21:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.53.13 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:21:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <127fb190603132021v1cbe6cddh8296d9f2c99c7a9c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:21:14 +0800 From: "Jimmy Lim" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20060313.111929.29516162.imp@bsdimp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <4415B5D7.6080401@webmail.sub.ru> <20060313.111929.29516162.imp@bsdimp.com> Subject: Re: USB-to-IDE problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 04:21:16 -0000 Indeed! I have the same problem with totally sucks on 5.x and 6.0, but now, I'm using 6.1-PRERELEASE and it's now working like a charm!. On 3/14/06, M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: <4415B5D7.6080401@webmail.sub.ru> > Alex Povolotsky writes: > : Hello! > : > : I've bought NEC DVD/CD-RW drive and some cheap aluminium external USB > : 2.0 case, put them together and prepared to be happy. > : > : It wrote to disks without a problem, but next day it failed 5 times of > : 5. I've connected it to annother FreeBSD box (server this time), and it > : works. > : > : On both computer, kernel issues warnings > : > : Mar 13 21:01:26 tarkhil kernel: umass0: Unsupported ATAPI command 0x46 > : > : but it doesn't seem to have much value. > : > : Kernel identifies the drive as > : > : Mar 13 21:00:01 tarkhil kernel: umass0: Genesys Logic USB TO IDE, rev > : 2.00/0.33, addr 2 > : Mar 13 21:00:01 tarkhil root: Unknown device: uhub3 > : Mar 13 21:00:01 tarkhil root: Attached: umass0 > : Mar 13 21:00:04 tarkhil kernel: cd0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > : Mar 13 21:00:04 tarkhil kernel: cd0: <_NEC CDRW/DVD CB1100B NS00> > : Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device > : Mar 13 21:00:04 tarkhil kernel: cd0: 1.000MB/s transfers > : > : However, on server identification is slightly different > : > : Mar 13 20:40:57 tarkhil-test2 kernel: umass0: vendor 0x05e3 USB TO IDE, > : rev 2.00/0.33, addr 2 > : Mar 13 20:41:06 tarkhil-test2 kernel: cd0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 = lun 0 > : Mar 13 20:41:06 tarkhil-test2 kernel: cd0: <_NEC CDRW/DVD CB1100B NS00> > : Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device > : Mar 13 20:41:06 tarkhil-test2 kernel: cd0: 40.000MB/s transfers > : > : So, on notebook every attempt to write disk sooner or later results in > : Track 01: 35 of 331 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf 99%] > : 10.2x.cdrecord: Input/output error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: retryable e= rror > : CDB: 2A 00 00 00 46 3C 00 00 1F 00 > : status: 0x0 (GOOD STATUS) > : resid: 63488 > : cmd finished after 0.041s timeout 40s > : > : write track data: error after 36823040 bytes > : cdrecord: A write error occured. > : cdrecord: Please properly read the error message above. > : cdrecord: Input/output error. test unit ready: scsi sendcmd: retryable = error > : CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 > : status: 0x0 (GOOD STATUS) > : cmd finished after 45.003s timeout 40s > : cdrecord: Input/output error. flush cache: scsi sendcmd: retryable erro= r > : CDB: 35 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 > : status: 0x0 (GOOD STATUS) > : cmd finished after 250.003s timeout 120s > : Trouble flushing the cache > : > : > : usbdevs -v shows > : > : Controller /dev/usb3: > : addr 1: high speed, self powered, config 1, EHCI root hub(0x0000), > : NEC(0x0000), rev 1.00 > : port 1 powered > : port 2 addr 2: high speed, self powered, config 1, USB TO IDE(0x0701), > : Genesys Logic(0x05e3), rev 0.33 > : > : USB controller is cardbus > : > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: ohci1: me= m > : 0x88001000-0x88001fff irq 11 at device 0.1 on cardbus1 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: ohci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: usb2: OHCI version 1.0 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: usb2: on = ohci1 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: usb2: USB revision 1.0 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: uhub2: NEC OHCI root hub, class 9/0, re= v > : 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self > : powered > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: cardbus1: Resource not specified in CIS= : > : id=3D10, > : size=3D100 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: ehci0: : controller> mem 0x88002000-0x880020ff irq 11 at device 0.2 on cardbus1 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: ehci_pci_attach: companion usb1 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: ehci_pci_attach: companion usb2 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: usb3: EHCI version 1.0 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: usb3: companion controllers, 3 ports > : each: usb1 > : usb2 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: usb3: : controller> on ehci0 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: usb3: USB revision 2.0 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: uhub3: NEC EHCI root hub, class 9/0, re= v > : 2.00/1.00, addr 1 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: uhub3: 5 ports with 5 removable, self > : powered > : > : Notebook is 5.3-RELEASE, server is 6.0-RELEASE. Maybe I should upgrade > : noteook to 6.0? > > 6.1 will have a bunch of improvements in this area. > > Warner > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Jimmy B. Lim j i m m y b l i m @ g m a i l . c o m From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 14 06:07:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D687416A420; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 06:07:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from mta10.adelphia.net (mta10.adelphia.net [68.168.78.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5936543D46; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 06:07:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from default.chvlva.adelphia.net ([69.160.66.115]) by mta10.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20060314060727.OWTI8442.mta10.adelphia.net@default.chvlva.adelphia.net>; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:07:27 -0500 Received: by default.chvlva.adelphia.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id ABB27B66E; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:07:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:07:32 -0500 From: Parv To: Norberto Meijome Message-ID: <20060314060732.GA2435@holestein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Norberto Meijome , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060313103240.ie1bevcdijs4coko@webmail.meijome.net> <20060314113412.3470fde5@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060314113412.3470fde5@localhost> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What laptop do you recommend? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 06:07:29 -0000 in message <20060314113412.3470fde5@localhost>, wrote Norberto Meijome thusly... > > On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:32:40 -0300 > freebsd@meijome.net wrote: > > > I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known to work > > WELL with freeBSD? e.g.: > > > > ACPI with no problems (and as many features as possible) > > PATA / SATA with no problems I don't think Thinkpad has [SP]ATA things (yet). > > all other basic stuff (graphics, NIC, Wireless g, sound, > > touchpad ,etc ) should work too, of course Thinkpad T42 is great in that regard, except that the use of dri w/ suspend/resume causes lockup. You would need to pick either dri or suspend/resume. If you can, try to get a laptop either without a 802.11g (so that you can decide which one to buy) or buy one supported by ath driver. I have T42 w/ Intel 2200BG card, and it using w/ iwi driver (net/iwi-firmware port). Here, connected w/ Linksys WRT54G wireless router/switch/AP, iwi interface|driver needs to be reset just about every two hours (when i start getting "TKIP ICV mismatch on decrypt" message. > > Looking into either Intel duo Core or AMD64 chips. Can't say about Thinkpad on that. > > >From what I've read, IBMs seem to have quite good support, so > > >do DELLs > > (though they seem chunkier than other laptops). I usually get > > Toshiba, but I don't think they are so well supported. Boy do those Toshiba's "TruBrite" screen looked amazing (in a chain store). On almost all the displayed laptops, however, the keyboards are buggered up, mainly on the right side. Keys were shifted around or had really unusual area of key caps. What is amazing about the messed up keyboard layout is that there was much wasted space on the sides (owning to the wider screen) & in front of the keyboard. > What about DELL laptops? any model I should stick to? People generally advise to get one from "business" line (used to be "Latitude" for some time in past; don't know about the present/future), not the "home" one ("Inspiron"). > Thinkpads are a bit pricey for me atm. T4[0-3]-generation should be affordable by now, around USD1[0-2]00. > (Greg Lehey i think was using dells... could well be wrong...) Yes, some Dell Inspiron. - Parv -- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 14 09:12:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12AEF16A401 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:12:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vova@vbook.fbsd.ru) Received: from vbook.fbsd.ru (swsoft-mipt-nat.sw.ru [195.214.233.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76D3043D46 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:12:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vova@vbook.fbsd.ru) Received: from vova by vbook.fbsd.ru with local (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1FJ5a4-0000bA-NW for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:12:40 +0300 From: Vladimir Grebenschikov To: freebsd-mobile Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: SWsoft Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:12:39 +0300 Message-Id: <1142327559.1268.14.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Sender: Vladimir Grebenschikov Subject: Any success story about Sony VAIO Z1 suspend/resume ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:12:43 -0000 Hi It does not work for me. May be anybody has success experience how to make it resume-able ? (It suspends ok, but on resume - no any signs of alive notebook except power led and HDD spin) -- Vladimir B. Grebenschikov SWsoft Inc. vova@swsoft.com From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 14 16:00:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8650F16A424; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:00:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from postal4.es.net (postal4.es.net [198.124.252.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D93D643D49; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:00:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal4.es.net (Postal Node 4) with ESMTP (SSL) id IBA74465; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:00:33 -0800 Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 8293145041; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:00:31 -0800 (PST) To: Parv In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:07:32 EST." <20060314060732.GA2435@holestein.holy.cow> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:00:31 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20060314160031.8293145041@ptavv.es.net> Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, Norberto Meijome , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What laptop do you recommend? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:00:43 -0000 > Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:07:32 -0500 > From: Parv > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > in message <20060314113412.3470fde5@localhost>, > wrote Norberto Meijome thusly... > > > > On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:32:40 -0300 > > freebsd@meijome.net wrote: > > > > > I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known to work > > > WELL with freeBSD? e.g.: > > > > > > ACPI with no problems (and as many features as possible) > > > PATA / SATA with no problems > > I don't think Thinkpad has [SP]ATA things (yet). >From my T43: atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x18c0-0x18cf at device 31.2 on pci0 Since the drives are still PATA, I assume it uses a SATA/PATA chip for the internal drives, but it may make SATA available to a docking station. > > > > all other basic stuff (graphics, NIC, Wireless g, sound, > > > touchpad ,etc ) should work too, of course > > Thinkpad T42 is great in that regard, except that the use of dri w/ > suspend/resume causes lockup. You would need to pick either dri or > suspend/resume. > > If you can, try to get a laptop either without a 802.11g (so that > you can decide which one to buy) or buy one supported by ath driver. > I have T42 w/ Intel 2200BG card, and it using w/ iwi driver > (net/iwi-firmware port). Here, connected w/ Linksys WRT54G wireless > router/switch/AP, iwi interface|driver needs to be reset just about > every two hours (when i start getting "TKIP ICV mismatch on decrypt" > message. iwi (and its kin-folk) have been betting heavy work in HEAD over the past week or two and, hopefully, things will improve. OTOH, I have two colleagues using this card with Windows and they complain that it locks up periodically and they have to disable and enable it to get it back, so this may not be just a FreeBSD thing. There is also fairly new firmware out (V3.0) which MAY fix some of these problems. > > > Looking into either Intel duo Core or AMD64 chips. > > Can't say about Thinkpad on that. I think the only ThinkPads with Core Duo are T60s, although I'm sure other will follow. Don't know if Lenovo will ever go the AMD route, but I sure hope they do. My AMD desktop is one amazing system! > > > >From what I've read, IBMs seem to have quite good support, so > > > >do DELLs > > > (though they seem chunkier than other laptops). I usually get > > > Toshiba, but I don't think they are so well supported. > > Boy do those Toshiba's "TruBrite" screen looked amazing (in a chain > store). On almost all the displayed laptops, however, the keyboards > are buggered up, mainly on the right side. Keys were shifted around > or had really unusual area of key caps. What is amazing about the > messed up keyboard layout is that there was much wasted space on > the sides (owning to the wider screen) & in front of the keyboard. FWIW, I have been amazed at the brightness of my T43. It is MUCH brighter than my trusty T30. > > What about DELL laptops? any model I should stick to? > > People generally advise to get one from "business" line (used to be > "Latitude" for some time in past; don't know about the > present/future), not the "home" one ("Inspiron"). > > > > Thinkpads are a bit pricey for me atm. > > T4[0-3]-generation should be affordable by now, around USD1[0-2]00. > > > > (Greg Lehey i think was using dells... could well be wrong...) > > Yes, some Dell Inspiron. My wife has not been at all happy with her Latitude. Heavy and still not robust. Unpleasant keyboard and very touchy touchpad. (This is from her as I don't often use it.) I do love the 1600x1200 display, though! For less expensive (and less powerful) ThinkPads, look at the R series. No Core Duos there, but they start at about $800 new. No touchpads (which I consider a plus), but a bit clunky compared to the T series. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 14 16:13:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F82E16A420 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:13:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7865043D48 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:13:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 5454 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2006 03:13:35 +1100 Received: from 203-158-42-196.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (203.158.42.196) by dreamroom.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 15 Mar 2006 03:13:34 +1100 Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 03:13:30 +1100 From: Norberto Meijome To: "Kevin Oberman" Message-ID: <20060315031330.0371359f@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20060314160031.8293145041@ptavv.es.net> References: <20060314060732.GA2435@holestein.holy.cow> <20060314160031.8293145041@ptavv.es.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.0.0 (GTK+ 2.8.12; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What laptop do you recommend? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:13:36 -0000 On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:00:31 -0800 "Kevin Oberman" wrote: > > Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:07:32 -0500 > > From: Parv > > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > > > in message <20060314113412.3470fde5@localhost>, > > wrote Norberto Meijome thusly... > > > > > > On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:32:40 -0300 > > > freebsd@meijome.net wrote: > > > > > > > I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known to > > > > work WELL with freeBSD? e.g.: > > > > > > > > ACPI with no problems (and as many features as possible) > > > > PATA / SATA with no problems > > > > I don't think Thinkpad has [SP]ATA things (yet). > > From my T43: > atapci0: port > 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x18c0-0x18cf at device 31.2 on > pci0 Since the drives are still PATA, I assume it uses a SATA/PATA > chip for the internal drives, but it may make SATA available to a > docking station. yeah, the T60s (available now @ my provider! ) also come with SATA drives. > > If you can, try to get a laptop either without a 802.11g (so that > > you can decide which one to buy) or buy one supported by ath driver. > > I have T42 w/ Intel 2200BG card, and it using w/ iwi driver > > (net/iwi-firmware port). Here, connected w/ Linksys WRT54G wireless > > router/switch/AP, iwi interface|driver needs to be reset just about > > every two hours (when i start getting "TKIP ICV mismatch on decrypt" > > message. > > iwi (and its kin-folk) have been betting heavy work in HEAD over the > past week or two and, hopefully, things will improve. OTOH, I have two > colleagues using this card with Windows and they complain that it > locks up periodically and they have to disable and enable it to get > it back, so this may not be just a FreeBSD thing. There is also > fairly new firmware out (V3.0) which MAY fix some of these problems. I have a 2200BG on this tosh A2 - some lockups, but couldn't pinpoint it to the card (again, i've made the habit of ifconfig down before suspend...) . No problems at all while running. > > > > Looking into either Intel duo Core or AMD64 chips. > > > > Can't say about Thinkpad on that. > > I think the only ThinkPads with Core Duo are T60s, although I'm sure > other will follow. Don't know if Lenovo will ever go the AMD route, > but I sure hope they do. My AMD desktop is one amazing system! I know :) What about AMD64 (single or Dual core) cpus for laptops ("Turin" ? ) : any good experiences there anyone? > > > > >From what I've read, IBMs seem to have quite good support, so > > > > >do DELLs > > > > (though they seem chunkier than other laptops). I usually get > > > > Toshiba, but I don't think they are so well supported. > > > > Boy do those Toshiba's "TruBrite" screen looked amazing (in a chain > > store). yeah, a colleague has a Tecra A5, bright as a CRT. > > FWIW, I have been amazed at the brightness of my T43. It is MUCH > brighter than my trusty T30. > > > > What about DELL laptops? any model I should stick to? > > > > People generally advise to get one from "business" line (used to be > > "Latitude" for some time in past; don't know about the > > present/future), not the "home" one ("Inspiron"). > > > > > > > Thinkpads are a bit pricey for me atm. > > > > T4[0-3]-generation should be affordable by now, around USD1[0-2]00. > > > > > > > (Greg Lehey i think was using dells... could well be wrong...) > > > > Yes, some Dell Inspiron. > > My wife has not been at all happy with her Latitude. Heavy and still > not robust. Unpleasant keyboard and very touchy touchpad. (This is > from her as I don't often use it.) I do love the 1600x1200 display, > though! > > For less expensive (and less powerful) ThinkPads, look at the R > series. No Core Duos there, but they start at about $800 new. No > touchpads (which I consider a plus), but a bit clunky compared to the > T series. yeah.... i'm running the features vs numbers job atm... Actually thinking of looking into the components of ASUS laptops, as well as those from pioneercomputers.com.au - have heard of some great experiences with those laptops with Linux. BTW, thanks everyone for your help :) will keep asking questions as needed, of course ;) Beto From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 14 16:21:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2494116A423 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:21:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@goodleaf.net) Received: from goodleaf.net (clyde.goodleaf.net [64.95.191.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D19843D46 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:21:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@goodleaf.net) Received: by goodleaf.net (Postfix, from userid 1701) id BB53952F8; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:21:54 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on clyde.goodleaf.net Received: from www.goodleaf.net (localhost.goodleaf.net [127.0.0.1]) by goodleaf.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE83F52CE for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:21:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from 66.89.131.50 (SquirrelMail authenticated user goodleaf) by www.goodleaf.net with HTTP; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:21:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <12613.66.89.131.50.1142353313.squirrel@www.goodleaf.net> In-Reply-To: <20060315031330.0371359f@localhost> References: <20060314060732.GA2435@holestein.holy.cow> <20060314160031.8293145041@ptavv.es.net> <20060315031330.0371359f@localhost> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:21:53 -0800 (PST) From: "John Goodleaf" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: What laptop do you recommend? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:21:47 -0000 Quick top post. Is there a FAQ or page where this sort of info is (or becomes) summarized? J > On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:00:31 -0800 > "Kevin Oberman" wrote: > >> > Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:07:32 -0500 >> > From: Parv >> > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org >> > >> > in message <20060314113412.3470fde5@localhost>, >> > wrote Norberto Meijome thusly... >> > > >> > > On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:32:40 -0300 >> > > freebsd@meijome.net wrote: >> > > >> > > > I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known to >> > > > work WELL with freeBSD? e.g.: >> > > > >> > > > ACPI with no problems (and as many features as possible) >> > > > PATA / SATA with no problems >> > >> > I don't think Thinkpad has [SP]ATA things (yet). >> >> From my T43: >> atapci0: port >> 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x18c0-0x18cf at device 31.2 on >> pci0 Since the drives are still PATA, I assume it uses a SATA/PATA >> chip for the internal drives, but it may make SATA available to a >> docking station. > > yeah, the T60s (available now @ my provider! ) also come with SATA > drives. > >> > If you can, try to get a laptop either without a 802.11g (so that >> > you can decide which one to buy) or buy one supported by ath driver. >> > I have T42 w/ Intel 2200BG card, and it using w/ iwi driver >> > (net/iwi-firmware port). Here, connected w/ Linksys WRT54G wireless >> > router/switch/AP, iwi interface|driver needs to be reset just about >> > every two hours (when i start getting "TKIP ICV mismatch on decrypt" >> > message. >> >> iwi (and its kin-folk) have been betting heavy work in HEAD over the >> past week or two and, hopefully, things will improve. OTOH, I have two >> colleagues using this card with Windows and they complain that it >> locks up periodically and they have to disable and enable it to get >> it back, so this may not be just a FreeBSD thing. There is also >> fairly new firmware out (V3.0) which MAY fix some of these problems. > > I have a 2200BG on this tosh A2 - some lockups, but couldn't pinpoint > it to the card (again, i've made the habit of ifconfig down before > suspend...) . No problems at all while running. > >> > > > Looking into either Intel duo Core or AMD64 chips. >> > >> > Can't say about Thinkpad on that. >> >> I think the only ThinkPads with Core Duo are T60s, although I'm sure >> other will follow. Don't know if Lenovo will ever go the AMD route, >> but I sure hope they do. My AMD desktop is one amazing system! > > I know :) > > What about AMD64 (single or Dual core) cpus for laptops ("Turin" ? ) : > any good experiences there anyone? > >> > > > >From what I've read, IBMs seem to have quite good support, so >> > > > >do DELLs >> > > > (though they seem chunkier than other laptops). I usually get >> > > > Toshiba, but I don't think they are so well supported. >> > >> > Boy do those Toshiba's "TruBrite" screen looked amazing (in a chain >> > store). > > yeah, a colleague has a Tecra A5, bright as a CRT. > >> >> FWIW, I have been amazed at the brightness of my T43. It is MUCH >> brighter than my trusty T30. >> >> > > What about DELL laptops? any model I should stick to? >> > >> > People generally advise to get one from "business" line (used to be >> > "Latitude" for some time in past; don't know about the >> > present/future), not the "home" one ("Inspiron"). >> > >> > >> > > Thinkpads are a bit pricey for me atm. >> > >> > T4[0-3]-generation should be affordable by now, around USD1[0-2]00. >> > >> > >> > > (Greg Lehey i think was using dells... could well be wrong...) >> > >> > Yes, some Dell Inspiron. >> >> My wife has not been at all happy with her Latitude. Heavy and still >> not robust. Unpleasant keyboard and very touchy touchpad. (This is >> from her as I don't often use it.) I do love the 1600x1200 display, >> though! >> >> For less expensive (and less powerful) ThinkPads, look at the R >> series. No Core Duos there, but they start at about $800 new. No >> touchpads (which I consider a plus), but a bit clunky compared to the >> T series. > > yeah.... i'm running the features vs numbers job atm... > > Actually thinking of looking into the components of ASUS laptops, as > well as those from pioneercomputers.com.au - have heard of some great > experiences with those laptops with Linux. > > BTW, thanks everyone for your help :) will keep asking questions as > needed, of course ;) > > Beto > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 14 17:03:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77BB816A420 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:03:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shanejp@netspace.net.au) Received: from mail.netspace.net.au (thunder.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E891A43D48 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:03:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shanejp@netspace.net.au) Received: from [10.0.0.6] (dsl-202-45-125-5-static.NSW.netspace.net.au [202.45.125.5]) by mail.netspace.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38C2D4B726 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 04:03:43 +1100 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <5F6FE52A-3A20-4FF1-800D-B2066E19482F@netspace.net.au> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Shane J Pearson Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 04:03:37 +1100 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Subject: Re: Sony VGN-A49GP FreeBSD 6.0 RELEASE dies during install. X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:03:46 -0000 Hello all, On 2005.11.06, at 3:09 PM, Shane J Pearson wrote: > I have a Sony VGN-A49GP notebook which was running FreeBSD 5.4 RELEASE > nicely, however I have tried to install 6.0 RELEASE without any luck. > It seems from looking at the dmesg that there might be a problem with > the IDE controller attached to the hard disk. It keeps de-attaching > the > disk and the installer complains there is no disk. > > 5.4 reported the disk at ad4 as being UDMA33, yet 6.0 reports SATA150. Just a follow-up to my problems with FreeBSD 6 and this Sony, for anyone else with this machine, or wanting this model. FreeBSD 6.1 BETA3 seems to install just fine. Shane From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 14 20:42:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3C6516A41F for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:42:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from mta10.adelphia.net (mta10.adelphia.net [68.168.78.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6738443D46 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:42:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from default.chvlva.adelphia.net ([69.160.66.115]) by mta10.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20060314204244.TTRA8442.mta10.adelphia.net@default.chvlva.adelphia.net>; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:42:44 -0500 Received: by default.chvlva.adelphia.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4F562B671; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:42:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:42:45 -0500 From: Parv To: Kevin Oberman Message-ID: <20060314204245.GB1573@holestein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Kevin Oberman , Norberto Meijome , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <20060314060732.GA2435@holestein.holy.cow> <20060314160031.8293145041@ptavv.es.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060314160031.8293145041@ptavv.es.net> Cc: Norberto Meijome , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What laptop do you recommend? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:42:45 -0000 in message <20060314160031.8293145041@ptavv.es.net>, wrote Kevin Oberman thusly... > > > Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:07:32 -0500 > > From: Parv > > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > > > in message <20060314113412.3470fde5@localhost>, > > wrote Norberto Meijome thusly... > > > > > > On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:32:40 -0300 > > > freebsd@meijome.net wrote: > > > > > > > I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known > > > > to work WELL with freeBSD? e.g.: > > > > > > > > ACPI with no problems (and as many features as possible) > > > > PATA / SATA with no problems > > > > I don't think Thinkpad has [SP]ATA things (yet). > > >From my T43: > atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x18c0-0x18cf at device 31.2 on pci0 > Since the drives are still PATA, I assume it uses a SATA/PATA chip > for the internal drives, but it may make SATA available to a > docking station. Thanks for the correction. > > > > all other basic stuff (graphics, NIC, Wireless g, sound, ... > > If you can, try to get a laptop either without a 802.11g (so > > that you can decide which one to buy) or buy one supported by > > ath driver. I have T42 w/ Intel 2200BG card, and it using w/ > > iwi driver (net/iwi-firmware port). Here, connected w/ Linksys > > WRT54G wireless router/switch/AP, iwi interface|driver needs to > > be reset just about every two hours (when i start getting "TKIP > > ICV mismatch on decrypt" message. > > iwi (and its kin-folk) have been betting heavy work in HEAD over > the past week or two and, hopefully, things will improve. I think i did read something about that. I hope the changes will be show in 6-STABLE, assuming the work will finish well before 7 branch is tagged as STABLE. > OTOH, I have two colleagues using this card with Windows and they > complain that it locks up periodically and they have to disable > and enable it to get it back, so this may not be just a FreeBSD > thing. I have not personally experienced problems in Windows for whatever length i was using that OS. Reading about others' trouble (in Windows) dose give me some solace. > There is also fairly new firmware out (V3.0) which MAY fix some of > these problems. That would be swell. - Parv -- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 14 20:54:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35AB416A400 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:54:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from postal1.es.net (postal1.es.net [198.128.3.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C46B643D48 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:54:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal1.es.net (Postal Node 1) with ESMTP (SSL) id IBA74465; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:54:46 -0800 Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id B0A9445041; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:54:45 -0800 (PST) To: Parv In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:42:45 EST." <20060314204245.GB1573@holestein.holy.cow> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:54:45 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20060314205445.B0A9445041@ptavv.es.net> Cc: Norberto Meijome , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What laptop do you recommend? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:54:50 -0000 > Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:42:45 -0500 > From: Parv > > in message <20060314160031.8293145041@ptavv.es.net>, > wrote Kevin Oberman thusly... > > > > iwi (and its kin-folk) have been betting heavy work in HEAD over > > the past week or two and, hopefully, things will improve. > > I think i did read something about that. I hope the changes will be > show in 6-STABLE, assuming the work will finish well before > 7 branch is tagged as STABLE. V7 is not planned to go STABLE for about 18 months, if I remember the time-line correctly. The iwi work should be done and MFCed to V6 long before that. Whether it will make 6.1 is less clear to me. Depends on what RE thinks about allowing it in on limited, but I would not bet on it. > > There is also fairly new firmware out (V3.0) which MAY fix some of > > these problems. > > That would be swell. Damien said that he would be updating the port for V3.0 firmware shortly. I don't know if he can get approval during the ports freeze, though. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 14 23:38:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD10316A400 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 23:38:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47DD743D45 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 23:38:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 20908 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2006 10:38:57 +1100 Received: from andromeda.lef.com.au (HELO localhost) (210.8.93.2) by creativesilk.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 15 Mar 2006 10:38:57 +1100 Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:38:50 +1100 From: Norberto Meijome To: "John Goodleaf" Message-ID: <20060315103850.28a39763@localhost> In-Reply-To: <12613.66.89.131.50.1142353313.squirrel@www.goodleaf.net> References: <20060314060732.GA2435@holestein.holy.cow> <20060314160031.8293145041@ptavv.es.net> <20060315031330.0371359f@localhost> <12613.66.89.131.50.1142353313.squirrel@www.goodleaf.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.0.0 (GTK+ 2.8.12; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What laptop do you recommend? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 23:38:58 -0000 On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:21:53 -0800 (PST) "John Goodleaf" wrote: > Quick top post. > > Is there a FAQ or page where this sort of info is (or becomes) > summarized? J > hmm..There's obviously the list archives (which are not summarised), and the FreeBSD Laptop Compatibility list ( http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/ ), which is not related to posts in mailing lists. You're welcome to do it :) I may put together a page with info on my current Tosh tecra A2 (added some info yesterday to the FBSD Laptop Compat list, and eventually about whatever new laptop I get....but agan, I may not be able to. B From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 15 08:36:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66DC316A400 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:36:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tarkhil@webmail.sub.ru) Received: from techno.sub.ru (webmail.sub.ru [213.247.139.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61DC043D45 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:36:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tarkhil@webmail.sub.ru) Received: (qmail 68324 invoked by uid 0); 15 Mar 2006 08:36:44 -0000 Received: from webmail.sub.ru (HELO localhost) (213.247.139.22) by techno.sub.ru with SMTP; 15 Mar 2006 08:36:44 -0000 Received: from unknown ([213.247.139.22]) by localhost (webmail.sub.ru [213.247.139.22]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 54180-20; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:36:39 +0300 (MSK) Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.72?) (tarkhil%sub.ru@217.73.115.223) by techno.sub.ru with SMTP; 15 Mar 2006 08:36:39 -0000 Message-ID: <4417D156.9050002@webmail.sub.ru> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:33:26 +0300 From: Alex Povolotsky User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060310) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4415B5D7.6080401@webmail.sub.ru> <20060313.111929.29516162.imp@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: <20060313.111929.29516162.imp@bsdimp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mail.sub.ru Cc: freebsd-usb@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB-to-IDE problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:36:47 -0000 M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: <4415B5D7.6080401@webmail.sub.ru> > Alex Povolotsky writes: > : Hello! > : > : I've bought NEC DVD/CD-RW drive and some cheap aluminium external USB > : 2.0 case, put them together and prepared to be happy. > : > : It wrote to disks without a problem, but next day it failed 5 times of > : 5. I've connected it to annother FreeBSD box (server this time), and it > : works. > : > : On both computer, kernel issues warnings > : > : Mar 13 21:01:26 tarkhil kernel: umass0: Unsupported ATAPI command 0x46 > : > : but it doesn't seem to have much value. > : > : Kernel identifies the drive as > : > : Mar 13 21:00:01 tarkhil kernel: umass0: Genesys Logic USB TO IDE, rev > : 2.00/0.33, addr 2 > : Mar 13 21:00:01 tarkhil root: Unknown device: uhub3 > : Mar 13 21:00:01 tarkhil root: Attached: umass0 > : Mar 13 21:00:04 tarkhil kernel: cd0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > : Mar 13 21:00:04 tarkhil kernel: cd0: <_NEC CDRW/DVD CB1100B NS00> > : Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device > : Mar 13 21:00:04 tarkhil kernel: cd0: 1.000MB/s transfers > : > : However, on server identification is slightly different > : > : Mar 13 20:40:57 tarkhil-test2 kernel: umass0: vendor 0x05e3 USB TO IDE, > : rev 2.00/0.33, addr 2 > : Mar 13 20:41:06 tarkhil-test2 kernel: cd0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > : Mar 13 20:41:06 tarkhil-test2 kernel: cd0: <_NEC CDRW/DVD CB1100B NS00> > : Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device > : Mar 13 20:41:06 tarkhil-test2 kernel: cd0: 40.000MB/s transfers > : > : So, on notebook every attempt to write disk sooner or later results in > : Track 01: 35 of 331 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf 99%] > : 10.2x.cdrecord: Input/output error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: retryable error > : CDB: 2A 00 00 00 46 3C 00 00 1F 00 > : status: 0x0 (GOOD STATUS) > : resid: 63488 > : cmd finished after 0.041s timeout 40s > : > : write track data: error after 36823040 bytes > : cdrecord: A write error occured. > : cdrecord: Please properly read the error message above. > : cdrecord: Input/output error. test unit ready: scsi sendcmd: retryable error > : CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 > : status: 0x0 (GOOD STATUS) > : cmd finished after 45.003s timeout 40s > : cdrecord: Input/output error. flush cache: scsi sendcmd: retryable error > : CDB: 35 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 > : status: 0x0 (GOOD STATUS) > : cmd finished after 250.003s timeout 120s > : Trouble flushing the cache > : > : > : usbdevs -v shows > : > : Controller /dev/usb3: > : addr 1: high speed, self powered, config 1, EHCI root hub(0x0000), > : NEC(0x0000), rev 1.00 > : port 1 powered > : port 2 addr 2: high speed, self powered, config 1, USB TO IDE(0x0701), > : Genesys Logic(0x05e3), rev 0.33 > : > : USB controller is cardbus > : > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: ohci1: mem > : 0x88001000-0x88001fff irq 11 at device 0.1 on cardbus1 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: ohci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: usb2: OHCI version 1.0 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: usb2: on ohci1 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: usb2: USB revision 1.0 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: uhub2: NEC OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev > : 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self > : powered > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: cardbus1: Resource not specified in CIS: > : id=10, > : size=100 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: ehci0: : controller> mem 0x88002000-0x880020ff irq 11 at device 0.2 on cardbus1 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: ehci_pci_attach: companion usb1 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: ehci_pci_attach: companion usb2 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: usb3: EHCI version 1.0 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: usb3: companion controllers, 3 ports > : each: usb1 > : usb2 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: usb3: : controller> on ehci0 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: usb3: USB revision 2.0 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: uhub3: NEC EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev > : 2.00/1.00, addr 1 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: uhub3: 5 ports with 5 removable, self > : powered > : > : Notebook is 5.3-RELEASE, server is 6.0-RELEASE. Maybe I should upgrade > : noteook to 6.0? > > 6.1 will have a bunch of improvements in this area. > In 6.1 PRERELEASE (yesterday cvsup) the problem on my notebook is the same. Transfer rate shown as 40 MB/s, but it still doesn't work with the same symptoms. Alex. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 15 08:36:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7A3B16A44E for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:36:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tarkhil@webmail.sub.ru) Received: from techno.sub.ru (webmail.sub.ru [213.247.139.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B2443D46 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:36:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tarkhil@webmail.sub.ru) Received: (qmail 68433 invoked by uid 0); 15 Mar 2006 08:36:52 -0000 Received: from webmail.sub.ru (HELO localhost) (213.247.139.22) by techno.sub.ru with SMTP; 15 Mar 2006 08:36:52 -0000 Received: from unknown ([213.247.139.22]) by localhost (webmail.sub.ru [213.247.139.22]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 58179-13; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:36:49 +0300 (MSK) Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.72?) (tarkhil%sub.ru@217.73.115.223) by techno.sub.ru with SMTP; 15 Mar 2006 08:36:48 -0000 Message-ID: <4417D15E.4080703@webmail.sub.ru> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:33:34 +0300 From: Alex Povolotsky User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060310) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: imp@bsdimp.com References: <4415B5D7.6080401@webmail.sub.ru> <20060313.111929.29516162.imp@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: <20060313.111929.29516162.imp@bsdimp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mail.sub.ru Cc: freebsd-usb@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB-to-IDE problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:36:54 -0000 M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: <4415B5D7.6080401@webmail.sub.ru> > Alex Povolotsky writes: > : Hello! > : > : I've bought NEC DVD/CD-RW drive and some cheap aluminium external USB > : 2.0 case, put them together and prepared to be happy. > : > : It wrote to disks without a problem, but next day it failed 5 times of > : 5. I've connected it to annother FreeBSD box (server this time), and it > : works. > : > : On both computer, kernel issues warnings > : > : Mar 13 21:01:26 tarkhil kernel: umass0: Unsupported ATAPI command 0x46 > : > : but it doesn't seem to have much value. > : > : Kernel identifies the drive as > : > : Mar 13 21:00:01 tarkhil kernel: umass0: Genesys Logic USB TO IDE, rev > : 2.00/0.33, addr 2 > : Mar 13 21:00:01 tarkhil root: Unknown device: uhub3 > : Mar 13 21:00:01 tarkhil root: Attached: umass0 > : Mar 13 21:00:04 tarkhil kernel: cd0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > : Mar 13 21:00:04 tarkhil kernel: cd0: <_NEC CDRW/DVD CB1100B NS00> > : Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device > : Mar 13 21:00:04 tarkhil kernel: cd0: 1.000MB/s transfers > : > : However, on server identification is slightly different > : > : Mar 13 20:40:57 tarkhil-test2 kernel: umass0: vendor 0x05e3 USB TO IDE, > : rev 2.00/0.33, addr 2 > : Mar 13 20:41:06 tarkhil-test2 kernel: cd0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > : Mar 13 20:41:06 tarkhil-test2 kernel: cd0: <_NEC CDRW/DVD CB1100B NS00> > : Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device > : Mar 13 20:41:06 tarkhil-test2 kernel: cd0: 40.000MB/s transfers > : > : So, on notebook every attempt to write disk sooner or later results in > : Track 01: 35 of 331 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf 99%] > : 10.2x.cdrecord: Input/output error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: retryable error > : CDB: 2A 00 00 00 46 3C 00 00 1F 00 > : status: 0x0 (GOOD STATUS) > : resid: 63488 > : cmd finished after 0.041s timeout 40s > : > : write track data: error after 36823040 bytes > : cdrecord: A write error occured. > : cdrecord: Please properly read the error message above. > : cdrecord: Input/output error. test unit ready: scsi sendcmd: retryable error > : CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 > : status: 0x0 (GOOD STATUS) > : cmd finished after 45.003s timeout 40s > : cdrecord: Input/output error. flush cache: scsi sendcmd: retryable error > : CDB: 35 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 > : status: 0x0 (GOOD STATUS) > : cmd finished after 250.003s timeout 120s > : Trouble flushing the cache > : > : > : usbdevs -v shows > : > : Controller /dev/usb3: > : addr 1: high speed, self powered, config 1, EHCI root hub(0x0000), > : NEC(0x0000), rev 1.00 > : port 1 powered > : port 2 addr 2: high speed, self powered, config 1, USB TO IDE(0x0701), > : Genesys Logic(0x05e3), rev 0.33 > : > : USB controller is cardbus > : > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: ohci1: mem > : 0x88001000-0x88001fff irq 11 at device 0.1 on cardbus1 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: ohci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: usb2: OHCI version 1.0 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: usb2: on ohci1 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: usb2: USB revision 1.0 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: uhub2: NEC OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev > : 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self > : powered > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: cardbus1: Resource not specified in CIS: > : id=10, > : size=100 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: ehci0: : controller> mem 0x88002000-0x880020ff irq 11 at device 0.2 on cardbus1 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: ehci_pci_attach: companion usb1 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: ehci_pci_attach: companion usb2 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: usb3: EHCI version 1.0 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: usb3: companion controllers, 3 ports > : each: usb1 > : usb2 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: usb3: : controller> on ehci0 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: usb3: USB revision 2.0 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: uhub3: NEC EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev > : 2.00/1.00, addr 1 > : Mar 13 20:29:02 tarkhil kernel: uhub3: 5 ports with 5 removable, self > : powered > : > : Notebook is 5.3-RELEASE, server is 6.0-RELEASE. Maybe I should upgrade > : noteook to 6.0? > > 6.1 will have a bunch of improvements in this area. > In 6.1 PRERELEASE (yesterday cvsup) the problem on my notebook is the same. Transfer rate shown as 40 MB/s, but it still doesn't work with the same symptoms. Alex. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 15 10:30:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F022616A442 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:30:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B85843D8A for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:30:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (ixgpkd@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2FAU6bg009739 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:30:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id k2FAU6XJ009738; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:30:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:30:06 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200603151030.k2FAU6XJ009738@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-mobile User-Agent: tin/1.8.0-20051224 ("Ronay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-STABLE (i386)) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:30:11 +0100 (CET) Cc: Subject: Re: What laptop do you recommend? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:30:19 -0000 freebsd@meijome.net wrote: > I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known to work > WELL with freeBSD? e.g.: > > ACPI with no problems (and as many features as possible) > PATA / SATA with no problems > all other basic stuff (graphics, NIC, Wireless g, sound, > touchpad ,etc ) should work too, of course > > Looking into either Intel duo Core or AMD64 chips. I have recently bought a Samsung X20 (XVM-1600-V). It's a standard Centrino (no Duo or amd64), but I'm extremely satisfied. It has 1 GB RAM, nice 1400 x 1050 display and everything you usually need. And best of all, every- thing is supported by FreeBSD, including ACPI, sound, 2D and 3D graphics acceleration, USB, Network interface etc. The fan is not very noisy and doesn't come up very often, except of course when doing heavy stuff like "buildworld". Dynamically adjusting the CPU speed with powerd(8) works very well. One thing which I've not tried (and which I suspect that it doesn't work) is the built-in modem. Oh, and another thing which I've not tried is suspend/resume, because I use the notebook primarily as a workstation on my desk. Also, the price is very reasonable, and Samsung's customer service is very helpful and responsive. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing Dienstleistungen mit Schwerpunkt FreeBSD: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. I suggested holding a "Python Object Oriented Programming Seminar", but the acronym was unpopular. -- Joseph Strout From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 15 15:36:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F3A516A401; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:36:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA8C943D46; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:36:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Received: from volatile.chemikals.org (cpe-024-211-118-154.sc.res.rr.com [24.211.118.154]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2FFah1t006224; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:36:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (morganw@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by volatile.chemikals.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2FFahue042090; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:36:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:36:43 -0500 (EST) From: Wesley Morgan To: Norberto Meijome In-Reply-To: <20060314113412.3470fde5@localhost> Message-ID: <20060315102759.G31320@volatile.chemikals.org> References: <20060313103240.ie1bevcdijs4coko@webmail.meijome.net> <20060314113412.3470fde5@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What laptop do you recommend? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:36:48 -0000 On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, Norberto Meijome wrote: > What about DELL laptops? any model I should stick to? Thinkpads are a > bit pricey for me atm. (Greg Lehey i think was using dells... could > well be wrong...) > > Alternatively, has anyone got a model of *new* Toshiba laptops > fully working ? I'm a huge Toshiba fan, and a HUGE fan of the touchpoint/accupoint devices. As of yesterday I replaced my Satellite Pro 6000 with a new M5-S433. Speaking for -current, not -stable, it boots fine, detects the gig ethernet with the em driver, serial port, usb, touchpad (bleh!), etc work fine. The ATA driver is identified as a "GENERIC ATA controller" and the drive is listed as UDMA33, which is either incorrect (the drive is SATA, I've removed it) or it's just using a SATA-PATA bridge internally. X11 starts up with the nv driver just fine, right now it's humming away beside me installing KDE. The only things that do not work are the builtin wireless, which should have a driver soon, and the sound, which I hope will also have some support soon! I have had a couple of quirks -- several times it has booted up but the ATA driver never saw the HD, but a reboot later it was finding it just fine. I also had trouble getting it to attach to an atheros card I was inserting, but I think that was related to the BIOS setting for device resource allocation rather than a kernel problem. Once i've had it a little longer I'll drop in on the -multimedia list and see if I can spur a little work on the sound. Everything else seems in order. -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 15 15:48:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3302916A401 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:48:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84CC343D55 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:48:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 15968 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2006 02:48:22 +1100 Received: from 203-217-43-53.dyn.chime.net.au (HELO localhost) (203.217.43.53) by bravurasolutions.co.nz with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 16 Mar 2006 02:48:22 +1100 Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 02:48:19 +1100 From: Norberto Meijome To: Wesley Morgan Message-ID: <20060316024819.1877a9a8@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20060315102759.G31320@volatile.chemikals.org> References: <20060313103240.ie1bevcdijs4coko@webmail.meijome.net> <20060314113412.3470fde5@localhost> <20060315102759.G31320@volatile.chemikals.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.0.0 (GTK+ 2.8.12; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What laptop do you recommend? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:48:24 -0000 On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:36:43 -0500 (EST) Wesley Morgan wrote: > Everything else seems in order. Thanks for the info Wesley. What about ACPI? btw, what resolution are u running X at? what fps does glxgears report? cheers, Beto From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 15 16:20:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4111716A401 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:20:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F0A43D46 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:20:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (zwtcfq@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2FGKlMb039792 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:20:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id k2FGKkqd039791; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:20:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:20:47 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200603151620.k2FGKkqd039791@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200603151030.k2FAU6XJ009738@lurza.secnetix.de> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-mobile User-Agent: tin/1.8.0-20051224 ("Ronay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-STABLE (i386)) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:20:52 +0100 (CET) Cc: Subject: Re: What laptop do you recommend? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:20:56 -0000 Oliver Fromme wrote: > I have recently bought a Samsung X20 (XVM-1600-V). It's a > standard Centrino (no Duo or amd64), but I'm extremely > satisfied. It has 1 GB RAM, nice 1400 x 1050 display > and everything you usually need. And best of all, every- > thing is supported by FreeBSD, including ACPI, sound, 2D > and 3D graphics acceleration, USB, Network interface etc. Forgot to mention: For those interested, here are the boot messages (dmesg), output from pciconf -lv, sysctl hw/dev, Xorg.log, xdpyinfo, glxinfo and xvinfo: http://www.secnetix.de/~olli/dmesg/centaur/ Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing Dienstleistungen mit Schwerpunkt FreeBSD: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "A language that doesn't have everything is actually easier to program in than some that do." -- Dennis M. Ritchie From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 15 18:46:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59CA316A420; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 18:46:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Received: from ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-04-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B63CC43D58; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 18:46:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Received: from volatile.chemikals.org (cpe-024-211-118-154.sc.res.rr.com [24.211.118.154]) by ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2FIkJoK020243; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 13:46:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (morganw@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by volatile.chemikals.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2FIkJTt044501; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 13:46:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 13:46:19 -0500 (EST) From: Wesley Morgan To: Norberto Meijome In-Reply-To: <20060316024819.1877a9a8@localhost> Message-ID: <20060315134145.J31320@volatile.chemikals.org> References: <20060313103240.ie1bevcdijs4coko@webmail.meijome.net> <20060314113412.3470fde5@localhost> <20060315102759.G31320@volatile.chemikals.org> <20060316024819.1877a9a8@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What laptop do you recommend? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 18:46:24 -0000 On Thu, 16 Mar 2006, Norberto Meijome wrote: > On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:36:43 -0500 (EST) > Wesley Morgan wrote: > >> Everything else seems in order. > > Thanks for the info Wesley. What about ACPI? > > btw, what resolution are u running X at? what fps does glxgears report? I haven't tried any sleep states yet. X runs at the native 1024x768 and glxgears runs at about 760-790 FPS when one of the two cores is occupied with something else and 815 when both are idle. -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 15 21:44:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3728B16A420 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:44:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4545B43D45 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:44:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 15 Mar 2006 21:44:37 -0000 Received: from p54A7ED8C.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.0.12]) [84.167.237.140] by mail.gmx.net (mp014) with SMTP; 15 Mar 2006 22:44:37 +0100 X-Authenticated: #5465401 Message-ID: <44188AB9.90708@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:44:25 +0100 From: "[LoN]Kamikaze" Organization: Lords of Nightmare User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060128) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wesley Morgan References: <20060313103240.ie1bevcdijs4coko@webmail.meijome.net> <20060314113412.3470fde5@localhost> <20060315102759.G31320@volatile.chemikals.org> <20060316024819.1877a9a8@localhost> <20060315134145.J31320@volatile.chemikals.org> In-Reply-To: <20060315134145.J31320@volatile.chemikals.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig37B0A79BB1D85B272AB34B5D" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What laptop do you recommend? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:44:40 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig37B0A79BB1D85B272AB34B5D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That seems pretty bad. What kind of graphics chip is on that machine? I'm using an old Thinkpad R40 with a Radeon Mobility 7500 Chip (rv200) and that gives me 2000fps together with a first generation Pentium-M 1300= =2E Wesley Morgan wrote: > On Thu, 16 Mar 2006, Norberto Meijome wrote: >=20 > I haven't tried any sleep states yet. X runs at the native 1024x768 and= > glxgears runs at about 760-790 FPS when one of the two cores is occupie= d > with something else and 815 when both are idle. >=20 --------------enig37B0A79BB1D85B272AB34B5D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFEGIq+fMDIb41/+S0RAjrtAJ9WY0f3algPH5Deky8/rA2XqWj7twCffRKJ jA3p39blA+wM4sDT7l9akcQ= =jV6T -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig37B0A79BB1D85B272AB34B5D-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 15 22:11:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDC6F16A400 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:11:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E178843D55 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:11:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Received: from volatile.chemikals.org (cpe-024-211-118-154.sc.res.rr.com [24.211.118.154]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2FMAuAv002984; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:10:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (morganw@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by volatile.chemikals.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2FMAu6o047440; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:10:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:10:56 -0500 (EST) From: Wesley Morgan To: "[LoN]Kamikaze" In-Reply-To: <44188AB9.90708@gmx.de> Message-ID: <20060315170952.N31320@volatile.chemikals.org> References: <20060313103240.ie1bevcdijs4coko@webmail.meijome.net> <20060314113412.3470fde5@localhost> <20060315102759.G31320@volatile.chemikals.org> <20060316024819.1877a9a8@localhost> <20060315134145.J31320@volatile.chemikals.org> <44188AB9.90708@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What laptop do you recommend? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:11:01 -0000 On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: > That seems pretty bad. What kind of graphics chip is on that machine? > I'm using an old Thinkpad R40 with a Radeon Mobility 7500 Chip (rv200) > and that gives me 2000fps together with a first generation Pentium-M 1300. It's one of thie NVidia Quadro chips with 128mb ram and up to another 128 shared. I haven't tried any tweaks at all with the config, the NV driver doesnt even officially recognize the card, but it does load. > > Wesley Morgan wrote: >> On Thu, 16 Mar 2006, Norberto Meijome wrote: >> >> I haven't tried any sleep states yet. X runs at the native 1024x768 and >> glxgears runs at about 760-790 FPS when one of the two cores is occupied >> with something else and 815 when both are idle. >> > > -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 15 22:37:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372C016A42F for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:37:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from postal2.es.net (postal2.es.net [198.128.3.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F051F43D58 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:37:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal2.es.net (Postal Node 2) with ESMTP (SSL) id IBA74465; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 14:37:38 -0800 Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 36D0D45041; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 14:37:38 -0800 (PST) To: Wesley Morgan In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:10:56 EST." <20060315170952.N31320@volatile.chemikals.org> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 14:37:38 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20060315223738.36D0D45041@ptavv.es.net> Cc: "\[LoN\]Kamikaze" , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What laptop do you recommend? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:37:42 -0000 > Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:10:56 -0500 (EST) > From: Wesley Morgan > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: > > > That seems pretty bad. What kind of graphics chip is on that machine? > > I'm using an old Thinkpad R40 with a Radeon Mobility 7500 Chip (rv200) > > and that gives me 2000fps together with a first generation Pentium-M 1300. > > It's one of thie NVidia Quadro chips with 128mb ram and up to another 128 > shared. I haven't tried any tweaks at all with the config, the NV driver > doesnt even officially recognize the card, but it does load. > > > > > Wesley Morgan wrote: > >> On Thu, 16 Mar 2006, Norberto Meijome wrote: > >> > >> I haven't tried any sleep states yet. X runs at the native 1024x768 and > >> glxgears runs at about 760-790 FPS when one of the two cores is occupied > >> with something else and 815 when both are idle. > >> > > > > Are you using the nvidia-driver and nvidia-xconfig ports? These will normally provide much better performance than the xorg driver. You need to add nvidia_load to your /boot/loader.conf file and then run nvidia-xconfig to update your xorg config file. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 15 22:56:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CA9A16A424 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:56:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from neilcpp@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from asmtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk (asmtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF53843D48 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:56:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neilcpp@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from [82.37.88.221] (helo=82-37-88-221.cable.ubr04.dudl.blueyonder.co.uk) by asmtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FJeuY-0003Fg-Qm for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:56:10 +0000 From: neil To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:56:09 +0000 Message-Id: <1142463369.7465.11.camel@pandora.region4.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.1-1mdk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Laptop Display size problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:56:12 -0000 Hi, I am running freebsd 6 on a Fujitsu Siemens Laptop. At the moment, I only want to use it in text mode. The problem I have is that the text mode display seems to be framed into the centre of the screen, wasting 2 inches plus horizontally and vertically. I have been trying to adjust the text mode display so that all of the screen is utilised, but had no success. Tried: 1. eval 'resize' which just reports a timeout error. 2. changing the bash shell TERM variable from cons25 to vt100 3. Manually switching adjusting the rows and columns with stty Also posted to usenet and web forums with no success. None of the books I have seem to refer to this issue. Any suggestions? From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 15 23:07:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD0916A423 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 23:07:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asstec@matik.com.br) Received: from msrv.matik.com.br (msrv.matik.com.br [200.152.83.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 813C843D6A for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 23:07:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from asstec@matik.com.br) Received: from anb (anb.matik.com.br [200.152.83.34]) by msrv.matik.com.br (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k2FN77pe089493 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:07:07 -0300 (BRT) (envelope-from asstec@matik.com.br) From: AT Matik Organization: Infomatik To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:06:46 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <1142463369.7465.11.camel@pandora.region4.net> In-Reply-To: <1142463369.7465.11.camel@pandora.region4.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200603152006.46876.asstec@matik.com.br> X-Filter-Version: 1.11a (msrv.matik.com.br) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88, clamav-milter version 0.87 on msrv.matik.com.br X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: Laptop Display size problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 23:07:14 -0000 On Wednesday 15 March 2006 19:56, neil wrote: > I have been trying to adjust the text mode display so that all of the > screen is utilised, but had no success. > this works for me to get 1024x768 vidcontrol -i mode MODE_278 your card may have other modes Jo=E3o A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 01:03:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC54716A400 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 01:03:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rainer@ultra-secure.de) Received: from bsd.ultra-secure.de (bsd.ultra-secure.de [62.146.20.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87FD443D45 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 01:03:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rainer@ultra-secure.de) Received: (qmail 20675 invoked by uid 89); 16 Mar 2006 01:03:51 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 20659, pid: 20671, t: 1.7127s scanners: attach: 1.1.0 clamav: 0.86.2/m:33/d:1045 spam: 3.0.4 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.198?) (rainer@ultra-secure.de@217.71.83.52) by bsd.ultra-secure.de with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 16 Mar 2006 01:03:49 -0000 Message-ID: <4418B970.80304@ultra-secure.de> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 02:03:44 +0100 From: Rainer Duffner User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060311) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on bsd.ultra-secure.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.4 Subject: iwi0 in 6_1-PRELEASE doesn't seem to work anymore X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 01:03:54 -0000 Hi, cat /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant ctrl_interface_group=wheel network={ ssid="theAPssid" scan_ssid=1 key_mgmt=WPA-PSK # pairwise=TKIP # group=TKIP psk="123456789012345678" } lbe8010# wpa_supplicant -d -i iwi0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf Initializing interface 'iwi0' conf '/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf' driver 'default' Configuration file '/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf' -> '/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf' Reading configuration file '/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf' ctrl_interface='/var/run/wpa_supplicant' ctrl_interface_group=0 (from group name 'wheel') Priority group 0 id=0 ssid='theAPssid' Initializing interface (2) 'iwi0' EAPOL: SUPP_PAE entering state DISCONNECTED EAPOL: KEY_RX entering state NO_KEY_RECEIVE EAPOL: SUPP_BE entering state INITIALIZE EAP: EAP entering state DISABLED EAPOL: External notification - portEnabled=0 EAPOL: External notification - portValid=0 Own MAC address: 00:0e:35:28:4e:18 wpa_driver_bsd_set_wpa: enabled=1 wpa_driver_bsd_set_wpa_internal: wpa=3 privacy=1 wpa_driver_bsd_del_key: keyidx=0 wpa_driver_bsd_del_key: keyidx=1 wpa_driver_bsd_del_key: keyidx=2 wpa_driver_bsd_del_key: keyidx=3 wpa_driver_bsd_set_countermeasures: enabled=0 wpa_driver_bsd_set_drop_unencrypted: enabled=1 Setting scan request: 0 sec 100000 usec Starting AP scan (specific SSID) Scan SSID - hexdump_ascii(len=11): (here the correct ssid it found) Received 0 bytes of scan results (1 BSSes) Scan results: 1 Selecting BSS from priority group 0 0: 00:12:17:71:01:dc ssid='theAppssid' wpa_ie_len=26 rsn_ie_len=0 selected Trying to associate with 00:12:17:71:01:dc (SSID='theAppssid' freq=2462 MHz) Cancelling scan request Automatic auth_alg selection: 0x1 WPA: using IEEE 802.11i/D3.0 WPA: Selected cipher suites: group 8 pairwise 8 key_mgmt 2 WPA: using GTK TKIP WPA: using PTK TKIP WPA: using KEY_MGMT WPA-PSK WPA: Own WPA IE - hexdump(len=24): dd 16 00 50 f2 01 01 00 00 50 f2 02 01 00 00 50 f2 02 01 00 00 50 f2 02 No keys have been configured - skip key clearing wpa_driver_bsd_set_drop_unencrypted: enabled=1 wpa_driver_bsd_associate: ssid 'theAPssid' wpa ie len 24 pairwise 2 group 2 key mgmt 1 wpa_driver_bsd_associate: set PRIVACY 1 Setting authentication timeout: 5 sec 0 usec EAPOL: External notification - EAP success=0 EAPOL: External notification - EAP fail=0 EAPOL: External notification - portControl=Auto Received 0 bytes of scan results (1 BSSes) Scan results: 1 Selecting BSS from priority group 0 ..... What is the problem? It worked before (with 6.0, and before I updated the firmware of the AP from something ancient to the latest release...). The AP in question is a Linksys WAP54G v.2. Rainer From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 01:40:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A309C16A422 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 01:40:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 188CB43D45 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 01:40:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Received: from volatile.chemikals.org (cpe-024-211-118-154.sc.res.rr.com [24.211.118.154]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2G1eVqv025080; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:40:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (morganw@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by volatile.chemikals.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2G1eUsS049995; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:40:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:40:30 -0500 (EST) From: Wesley Morgan To: Kevin Oberman In-Reply-To: <20060315223738.36D0D45041@ptavv.es.net> Message-ID: <20060315200342.W48679@volatile.chemikals.org> References: <20060315223738.36D0D45041@ptavv.es.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Cc: "\[LoN\]Kamikaze" , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What laptop do you recommend? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 01:40:46 -0000 On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, Kevin Oberman wrote: >> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:10:56 -0500 (EST) >> From: Wesley Morgan >> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org >> >> On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: >> >>> That seems pretty bad. What kind of graphics chip is on that machine? >>> I'm using an old Thinkpad R40 with a Radeon Mobility 7500 Chip (rv200) >>> and that gives me 2000fps together with a first generation Pentium-M 1300. >> >> It's one of thie NVidia Quadro chips with 128mb ram and up to another 128 >> shared. I haven't tried any tweaks at all with the config, the NV driver >> doesnt even officially recognize the card, but it does load. > > Are you using the nvidia-driver and nvidia-xconfig ports? These will > normally provide much better performance than the xorg driver. > > You need to add nvidia_load to your /boot/loader.conf file and then run > nvidia-xconfig to update your xorg config file. With the nvidia driver, I end up with only a partial display -- ie, the LCD stretch kicks in and a full 75% or more of the display is "off screen". 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Only click here if you want to increase your size: http://au.geocities.com/wynn318lurette90644/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 07:42:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F1BD16A401 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:42:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 81BB643D73 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:42:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 16 Mar 2006 07:42:30 -0000 Received: from p54A7ED8C.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.0.12]) [84.167.237.140] by mail.gmx.net (mp035) with SMTP; 16 Mar 2006 08:42:30 +0100 X-Authenticated: #5465401 Message-ID: <441916DF.8010609@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:42:23 +0100 From: "[LoN]Kamikaze" Organization: Lords of Nightmare User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060128) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wesley Morgan References: <20060313103240.ie1bevcdijs4coko@webmail.meijome.net> <20060314113412.3470fde5@localhost> <20060315102759.G31320@volatile.chemikals.org> <20060316024819.1877a9a8@localhost> <20060315134145.J31320@volatile.chemikals.org> <44188AB9.90708@gmx.de> <20060315170952.N31320@volatile.chemikals.org> In-Reply-To: <20060315170952.N31320@volatile.chemikals.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig531B8315BA351F0CC84A169B" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What laptop do you recommend? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:42:40 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig531B8315BA351F0CC84A169B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you're using nv you don't have 3d acceleration. In your place I would try the nvidia driver from the ports. Your card should outperform my crappy 32MB thing. Wesley Morgan wrote: > On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: >=20 >> That seems pretty bad. What kind of graphics chip is on that machine? >> I'm using an old Thinkpad R40 with a Radeon Mobility 7500 Chip (rv200)= >> and that gives me 2000fps together with a first generation Pentium-M >> 1300. >=20 > It's one of thie NVidia Quadro chips with 128mb ram and up to another > 128 shared. I haven't tried any tweaks at all with the config, the NV > driver doesnt even officially recognize the card, but it does load. >=20 >> >> Wesley Morgan wrote: >>> On Thu, 16 Mar 2006, Norberto Meijome wrote: >>> >>> I haven't tried any sleep states yet. X runs at the native 1024x768 a= nd >>> glxgears runs at about 760-790 FPS when one of the two cores is occup= ied >>> with something else and 815 when both are idle. >>> >> >> >=20 --------------enig531B8315BA351F0CC84A169B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFEGRbffMDIb41/+S0RAqTLAJsG+kX2H9zFGhjDxNV4viTbFZBRiwCbBdyc 7fFnE/VWADBxDJbwnBXYg5c= =CYKd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig531B8315BA351F0CC84A169B-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 07:46:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6473716A423 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:46:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9FC4743D4C for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:46:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 16 Mar 2006 07:46:17 -0000 Received: from p54A7ED8C.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.0.12]) [84.167.237.140] by mail.gmx.net (mp039) with SMTP; 16 Mar 2006 08:46:17 +0100 X-Authenticated: #5465401 Message-ID: <441917C2.6090107@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:46:10 +0100 From: "[LoN]Kamikaze" Organization: Lords of Nightmare User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060128) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wesley Morgan References: <20060315223738.36D0D45041@ptavv.es.net> <20060315200342.W48679@volatile.chemikals.org> In-Reply-To: <20060315200342.W48679@volatile.chemikals.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig458D28B54B739D4AB5D56B33" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What laptop do you recommend? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:46:19 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig458D28B54B739D4AB5D56B33 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Try to rely completely on auto detection and don't enter any features of your monitor in your xorg.conf (such as modes or frequencies). Lately the auto detection seems to work much better. Wesley Morgan wrote: > On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, Kevin Oberman wrote: >=20 >>> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:10:56 -0500 (EST) >>> From: Wesley Morgan >>> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org >>> >>> On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: >>> >>>> That seems pretty bad. What kind of graphics chip is on that machine= ? >>>> I'm using an old Thinkpad R40 with a Radeon Mobility 7500 Chip (rv20= 0) >>>> and that gives me 2000fps together with a first generation Pentium-M= >>>> 1300. >>> >>> It's one of thie NVidia Quadro chips with 128mb ram and up to another= >>> 128 >>> shared. I haven't tried any tweaks at all with the config, the NV dri= ver >>> doesnt even officially recognize the card, but it does load. >> >> Are you using the nvidia-driver and nvidia-xconfig ports? These will >> normally provide much better performance than the xorg driver. >> >> You need to add nvidia_load to your /boot/loader.conf file and then ru= n >> nvidia-xconfig to update your xorg config file. >=20 > With the nvidia driver, I end up with only a partial display -- ie, the= > LCD stretch kicks in and a full 75% or more of the display is "off > screen". Haven't been able to figure out why... >=20 >=20 --------------enig458D28B54B739D4AB5D56B33 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFEGRfCfMDIb41/+S0RAsLLAJ9a0gRgFDSHJJLby5K3AZyuxGJUlACfTlpG mrfAdYgx8sdaTiumUsUMeOM= =CJMn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig458D28B54B739D4AB5D56B33-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 07:57:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C6016A422 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:57:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail22.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail22.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.160]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 696AF43D48 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:57:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c220-239-19-236.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.19.236]) by mail22.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k2G7vO7r006790 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:57:24 +1100 Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2G7vOZZ001200; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:57:24 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k2G7vOkT001199; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:57:24 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:57:24 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: neil Message-ID: <20060316075724.GB681@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <1142463369.7465.11.camel@pandora.region4.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1142463369.7465.11.camel@pandora.region4.net> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop Display size problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:57:29 -0000 On Wed, 2006-Mar-15 22:56:09 +0000, neil wrote: >Hi, I am running freebsd 6 on a Fujitsu Siemens Laptop. At the moment, I >only want to use it in text mode. The problem I have is that the text >mode display seems to be framed into the centre of the screen, wasting 2 >inches plus horizontally and vertically. This isn't that uncommon. Normal VGA text mode is 80x25 characters in a 640x400 pixel display and the easiest way to do this is to map the pixels directly onto the LCD. Since text mode is virtually unused in the Winbloze world, there's little incentive to do anything else. You could try building a kernel with VESA enabled and using vidcontrol(8). -- Peter Jeremy From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 08:15:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E2116A420 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:15:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stevensl@mundoanimal.com) Received: from dialpool-210-214-70-46.maa.sify.net (dialpool-210-214-70-46.maa.sify.net [210.214.70.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1520C43D93 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:15:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stevensl@mundoanimal.com) Received: from mundoanimal.com (mundoanimal-com.mr.outblaze.com [64.62.181.93]) by dialpool-210-214-70-46.maa.sify.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C800B26A68 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 03:12:50 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 03:12:50 -0500 From: Integracia_Holding X-Mailer: The Bat! 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 12:55:53 -0000 On Thu, 16 Mar 2006, [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: > Try to rely completely on auto detection and don't enter any features of > your monitor in your xorg.conf (such as modes or frequencies). Lately > the auto detection seems to work much better. That's how I already have/had it. Turns out the driver needs the VM86_INT10CALL option enabled to properly probe the EDID and set up the display. > > Wesley Morgan wrote: >>> >>> You need to add nvidia_load to your /boot/loader.conf file and then run >>> nvidia-xconfig to update your xorg config file. >> >> With the nvidia driver, I end up with only a partial display -- ie, the >> LCD stretch kicks in and a full 75% or more of the display is "off >> screen". Haven't been able to figure out why... >> >> > > -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 13:48:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E1816A420 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:48:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from mh2.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B71643D73 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:48:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from [10.177.171.220] (neutrino.centtech.com [10.177.171.220]) by mh2.centtech.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k2GDmUVl027714 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:48:31 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Message-ID: <44196CAB.5090800@centtech.com> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:48:27 -0600 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060112) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mobile@freebsd.org References: <186601c64b1a$4df4d284$6aa0c6cb@boun.edu.tr> In-Reply-To: <186601c64b1a$4df4d284$6aa0c6cb@boun.edu.tr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1335/Wed Mar 15 22:58:43 2006 on mh2.centtech.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: Re: Want it larger? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:48:41 -0000 Rodrigo T. McNeil wrote: > You've seen them on TV.... You've read about them in the papers... > > Our doctor developed pill will enlarge it up to 3 inches. > > NO JOKE! 100% results - you won't regret. > > FACT: 68% of women think their lover's is to small, > are you one of them? > > Only click here if you want to increase your size: > http://au.geocities.com/wynn318lurette90644/ > And here I thought it was talking about my laptop screen size.. *sigh* ;) Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Sr. Systems Administrator Centaur Technology Anything that works is better than anything that doesn't. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 14:47:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D69816A401 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:47:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94EEA43D45 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:47:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 32725 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2006 01:47:34 +1100 Received: from 203-206-248-179.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (203.206.248.179) by sanderstechnology.com with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 17 Mar 2006 01:47:33 +1100 Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 01:47:30 +1100 From: Norberto Meijome To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20060317014730.7a3b0be1@localhost> In-Reply-To: <200603151030.k2FAU6XJ009738@lurza.secnetix.de> References: <200603151030.k2FAU6XJ009738@lurza.secnetix.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.0.0 (GTK+ 2.8.16; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: olli@lurza.secnetix.de Subject: Re: What laptop do you recommend? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:47:35 -0000 On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:30:06 +0100 (CET) Oliver Fromme wrote: > freebsd@meijome.net wrote: > > I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known to > > work WELL with freeBSD? e.g.: > > > > ACPI with no problems (and as many features as possible) > > PATA / SATA with no problems > > all other basic stuff (graphics, NIC, Wireless g, sound, > > touchpad ,etc ) should work too, of course > > > > Looking into either Intel duo Core or AMD64 chips. > > I have recently bought a Samsung X20 (XVM-1600-V). thanks for the info Oliver :) I'll look into it, though ACPI (or APM ) with proper suspend is a must for me (hibernation would be great, but somehow i dont think I've heard of any laptop that supports this in fbsd... could, and hopefully am, wrong) I am also now starting to look into Pentium-M (higher end) rather than dual cores ($$ mainly). I haven't heard one comment about 64bit cpus + laptops + freebsd. ( Lenovo R52 and Lenovo Z60M are shortlisted... hopefully I'll be able to test a Toshiba Tecra A7 (dual core, SATA disk) soon) thx! Beto From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 14:54:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4999816A420 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:54:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0675A43D45 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:54:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 407 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2006 01:54:04 +1100 Received: from 203-206-248-179.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (203.206.248.179) by joanathan.com with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 17 Mar 2006 01:54:04 +1100 Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 01:54:00 +1100 From: Norberto Meijome To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060317015400.44485811@localhost> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.0.0 (GTK+ 2.8.16; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Thinkpad Z60M X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:54:05 -0000 hi there, looking into this laptop - i wanted to know if these components are supported (and whether there are any caveats): - wireless card: Intel PRO/Wireless 2915ABG ( is this the iwi driver too?) - Video card: 128MB ATI RADEON X600 If anyone has any experience with this laptop in particular (or Z60*) i'd love to hear from you :) thx!!! Beto From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 15:09:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED18D16A401 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:09:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B8E43D6E for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:09:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 956 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2006 02:08:59 +1100 Received: from 203-206-248-179.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (203.206.248.179) by tittman.com.ar with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 17 Mar 2006 02:08:59 +1100 Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 02:08:56 +1100 From: Norberto Meijome To: neil Message-ID: <20060317020856.18bc9f19@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1142463369.7465.11.camel@pandora.region4.net> References: <1142463369.7465.11.camel@pandora.region4.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.0.0 (GTK+ 2.8.16; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop Display size problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:09:04 -0000 On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:56:09 +0000 neil wrote: > Hi, I am running freebsd 6 on a Fujitsu Siemens Laptop. At the > moment, I only want to use it in text mode. The problem I have is > that the text mode display seems to be framed into the centre of the > screen, wasting 2 inches plus horizontally and vertically. No idea if this is similar in your Fujitsu: most Toshiba laptops i've used have a BIOS setting (video zoom ? full screen? ) that makes the screen look like what you describe. I think it affects only text mode, but could be wrong. Beto From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 16:15:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9365516A420 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 16:15:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from postal2.es.net (postal2.es.net [198.128.3.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC83543D49 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 16:15:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal2.es.net (Postal Node 2) with ESMTP (SSL) id IBA74465; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:15:50 -0800 Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 2BECA45042; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:15:50 -0800 (PST) To: Norberto Meijome In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 17 Mar 2006 01:54:00 +1100." <20060317015400.44485811@localhost> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:15:50 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20060316161550.2BECA45042@ptavv.es.net> Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thinkpad Z60M X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 16:15:54 -0000 > Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 01:54:00 +1100 > From: Norberto Meijome > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > hi there, > looking into this laptop - i wanted to know if these components are > supported (and whether there are any caveats): > > - wireless card: Intel PRO/Wireless 2915ABG ( is this the iwi driver > too?) Atheros. Mine works very well (in a T43). Add if_ath_load to /boot/loader.conf. > > - Video card: 128MB ATI RADEON X600 No problems unless you use DRI. I believe the support for this is still in progress. You probably want to install radeontool and add it to your rc.suspend and rc.resume scripts. Something like: if [ -x /usr/local/bin/radeontool ]; then /usr/local/bin/radeontool light off /usr/local/bin/radeontool dac off fi You may want to run the DAC off when running on battery, too, to save a little power. Also, put acpi_ibm_load into /boo/loader.conf and take a look at 'sysctl dev.acpi_ibm'. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 18:36:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC41916A424 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:36:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30A8543D45 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:36:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (tuxoxq@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2GIadfv037539 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:36:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id k2GIadBU037538; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:36:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:36:39 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200603161836.k2GIadBU037538@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20060317014730.7a3b0be1@localhost> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-mobile User-Agent: tin/1.8.0-20051224 ("Ronay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-STABLE (i386)) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:36:44 +0100 (CET) Cc: Subject: Re: What laptop do you recommend? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:36:48 -0000 Norberto Meijome wrote: > I am also now starting to look into Pentium-M (higher end) rather than > dual cores ($$ mainly). I haven't heard one comment about 64bit cpus + > laptops + freebsd. Personally I think 64bit doesn't buy you much in a laptop, unless you have a very special application that benefits from it. There are still a lot of GUI apps that won't run in 64bit mode (ports marked as i386-only). Also, laptops usually don't have more than 4 GB of memory, so you don't need the enlarged address space of 64bit mode either. Of course, you could make the point that a 64bit laptop would at least offer the ability to switch in the future, wenn all apps run fine in 64bit mode. Also, AMD64 laptops are generally fast, even in 32bit mode. Just my two Euro cents. YMMV. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing Dienstleistungen mit Schwerpunkt FreeBSD: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "If Java had true garbage collection, most programs would delete themselves upon execution." -- Robert Sewell From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 17 02:48:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2F716A401 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 02:48:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reichert@numachi.com) Received: from meisai.numachi.com (meisai.numachi.com [198.175.254.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B72643D48 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 02:48:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reichert@numachi.com) Received: (qmail 49874 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2006 02:48:09 -0000 Received: from natto.numachi.com (198.175.254.216) by meisai.numachi.com with SMTP; 17 Mar 2006 02:48:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 20809 invoked by uid 1001); 17 Mar 2006 02:48:05 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:48:05 -0500 From: Brian Reichert To: Ian Dowse Message-ID: <20060317024805.GJ16991@numachi.com> References: <200603121538.42227.mistry.7@osu.edu> <200603130228.aa82804@nowhere.iedowse.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200603130228.aa82804@nowhere.iedowse.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sony DSC, but no da* device? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 02:48:12 -0000 On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 02:28:24AM +0000, Ian Dowse wrote: > In message <200603121538.42227.mistry.7@osu.edu>, Anish Mistry writes: > >Hmmm...I don't know anything else to try. Before the umass worked > >with my camera, I just put the camera in PTP mode and used gphoto2 on > >the ugen device and that worked. It wasn't as convenient as a mass > >storage device. > > There is a quirk entry in umass.c for revision 5.00 of the DSC > camera, but I think Brian reported he has 6.00? It would be worth > finding the "USB_PRODUCT_SONY_DSC, 0x0500" entry and trying adding > a new entry for revision 6.00 immediately after it, e.g: > > { USB_VENDOR_SONY, USB_PRODUCT_SONY_DSC, 0x0600, > UMASS_PROTO_RBC | UMASS_PROTO_CBI, > RBC_PAD_TO_12 > }, Hurray! This worked! Mar 16 21:26:38 chew kernel: umass0: Sony Sony DSC, rev 2.00/6.00, addr 2 Mar 16 21:26:38 chew kernel: da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 Mar 16 21:26:38 chew kernel: da0: Removable Direct Access S CSI-0 device Mar 16 21:26:38 chew kernel: da0: 40.000MB/s transfers Mar 16 21:26:38 chew kernel: da0: 948MB (1942528 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 948C) # mount -t msdos /dev/da0s1 /mnt # df /mnt /dev/da0s1 968960 104288 864672 11% /mnt Are people accepting patches for those quirk entries? Or is there some external source for those that I can submit a patch for? > Ian -- Brian Reichert 55 Crystal Ave. #286 Daytime number: (603) 434-6842 Derry NH 03038-1725 USA BSD admin/developer at large From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 17 02:57:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38B5316A41F for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 02:57:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from mta10.adelphia.net (mta10.adelphia.net [68.168.78.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C593443D48 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 02:57:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from default.chvlva.adelphia.net ([69.160.66.115]) by mta10.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20060317025747.RJMI8301.mta10.adelphia.net@default.chvlva.adelphia.net>; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:57:47 -0500 Received: by default.chvlva.adelphia.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1D6AEB670; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:57:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:57:53 -0500 From: Parv To: Norberto Meijome Message-ID: <20060317025753.GA15908@holestein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Norberto Meijome , neil , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <1142463369.7465.11.camel@pandora.region4.net> <20060317020856.18bc9f19@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060317020856.18bc9f19@localhost> Cc: neil , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop Display size problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 02:57:48 -0000 in message <20060317020856.18bc9f19@localhost>, wrote Norberto Meijome thusly... > > On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:56:09 +0000 neil > wrote: > > > Hi, I am running freebsd 6 on a Fujitsu Siemens Laptop. At the > > moment, I only want to use it in text mode. The problem I have > > is that the text mode display seems to be framed into the centre > > of the screen, wasting 2 inches plus horizontally and > > vertically. > > No idea if this is similar in your Fujitsu: most Toshiba laptops > i've used have a BIOS setting (video zoom ? full screen? ) that > makes the screen look like what you describe. I think it affects > only text mode, but could be wrong. Oh yeah, that reminds my Thinkpad T42 also has that "feature" through BIOS. Once i enabled it by mistake which caused some head scratching. - Parv -- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 17 10:48:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66A1416A41F for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:48:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elisa.bastianello@virgilio.it) Received: from vsmtp14.tin.it (vsmtp14.tin.it [212.216.176.118]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A75743D45 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:48:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from elisa.bastianello@virgilio.it) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (87.2.251.219) by vsmtp14.tin.it (7.2.072.1) id 4405B3A7009B84EB; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 11:49:40 +0100 Message-ID: <441A9430.9080900@virgilio.it> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 11:49:20 +0100 From: Elisa Bastianello User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "M. Warner Losh" References: <02a301c633a0$f9a5bb90$0201a8c0@stazione> <20060220.013902.86382266.imp@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: <20060220.013902.86382266.imp@bsdimp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, liladude@aruba.it Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.4 and PCMCIA drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:48:58 -0000 Hi! I just wanted to let you know that there is a patch Mr John Baldwin wrote to have this card working (at least under FreeBSD 6.0). http://www.freebsd.org/~jhb/patches/drp-32txd.patch Now it works really fine! Sorry for cross posting. Lila M. Warner Losh ha scritto: > to /boot/loader.conf. This should enable us to tell you if it is > supported. Chances are excellent that support already exists for this > device and only minor changes are needed for you to use it. > > Warner > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 17 20:51:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A923216A41F for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 20:51:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kan.cai@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF3CA43D48 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 20:51:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kan.cai@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so673057nzo for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 12:51:28 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=BanHG6fDwR6Y9Cccciu60GK++v90PrxhUJDrEewmeA5fRvSWN6/xygxCrjTzDvIJ2CuM27sYLruTCIvQzmvBLHtZZmeoG/vbFlcck8zF42gkNRF056ceUwBrOgd3HIq88oVDEoYOh6tesnSbtJl4AZ6C5TQP6/rXeVDTICrhbAQ= Received: by 10.37.14.56 with SMTP id r56mr4456033nzi; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 12:51:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.36.38.14 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 12:51:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5365ea660603171251w330dcfbds316e73c83038aa3c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 12:51:27 -0800 From: "Kan Cai" To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Wireless sensing function is missing? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 20:51:29 -0000 Greetings all: I have been doing some 802.11 wireless experiments, and the reults seem t= o suggest that wireless sensing function is missing. In theory, a wireless device should back off when it senses some signals in the airspace, even if these signals are too weak to capture, just to avoid potential packet drops due to collisions. The experiment I did is to measure the UDP sending and recving rates by putting two wireless nodes on the verge of transmission range, and then putting rectangle garbage bins stuffed with books in front of one wireless node to absorb the signal. Here are the results: # of garbage bins Sending Rate Recving Rate 1 4.77Mbps 3.32Mbps 2 5.83Mbps 2.26Mbps 3 7.73Mbps 0.48Mbps 4 8.18Mbps 0.00Mbps The other wireless node is sending UDP packet at maximum rate 8.2Mbps. Even though the impact of interference weakens as I put more garbage cans= , the sum of the sending rate and receving rate as shown is about 8.1-8.2Mbps= , which suggests that it is not affect by those sensing signals. Otherwise, i= t would back off its transmissions until the network is idle. It can still receive some packets sent by another node, which indicates that it should b= e able to sense most of the signals although it might not be able to receive them. I wonder if this is true that sensing function is missing? If yes, is it supposed to be implemented in the driver or net80211 layer? Thanks in advance! cheers, --ken From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 17 22:23:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE5BE16A401; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:23:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kcai@cs.ubc.ca) Received: from mail-relay1.cs.ubc.ca (mail-relay1.cs.ubc.ca [142.103.6.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CE5743D48; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:23:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kcai@cs.ubc.ca) Received: from smtp.cs.ubc.ca (smtp.cs.ubc.ca [142.103.6.52]) by mail-relay1.cs.ubc.ca (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2HMNq70031811; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:23:53 -0800 Received: from lore.cs.ubc.ca (lore.cs.ubc.ca [142.103.14.160]) by smtp.cs.ubc.ca (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2HMNqPG016839 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:23:52 -0800 Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:00:28 -0800 (PST) From: Kan Cai To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd-net@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-PMX-Version: 5.0.3.165339, Antispam-Engine: 2.1.0.0, Antispam-Data: 2006.3.17.140606 X-UBCCS-SpamTag: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Cc: Subject: Wireless sensing function is missing? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:23:53 -0000 Greetings all: Sorry if this is reposting, didn't see my first email got through. I have been doing some 802.11 wireless experiments, and the reults seem to suggest that wireless sensing function is missing. In theory, a wireless device should back off when it senses some signals in the airspace, even if these signals are too weak to capture, just to avoid potential packet drops due to collisions. The experiment I did is to measure the UDP sending and recving rates by putting two wireless nodes on the verge of transmission range, and then putting rectangle garbage bins stuffed with books in front of one wireless node to absorb the signal. Here are the results: # of garbage bins Sending Rate Recving Rate 1 4.77Mbps 3.32Mbps 2 5.83Mbps 2.26Mbps 3 7.73Mbps 0.48Mbps 4 8.18Mbps 0.00Mbps The other wireless node is sending UDP packet at maximum rate 8.2Mbps. Even though the impact of interference weakens as I put more garbage cans, the sum of the sending rate and receving rate as shown is about 8.1-8.2Mbps, which suggests that it is not affect by those sensing signals. Otherwise, it would back off its transmissions until the network is idle. It can still receive some packets sent by another node, which indicates that it should be able to sense most of the signals although it might not be able to receive them. I wonder if this is true that sensing function is missing? If yes, is it supposed to be implemented in the driver or net80211 layer? Thanks in advance! cheers, --ken From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 18 04:30:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA53716A4D6; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 04:30:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bms@spc.org) Received: from mindfull.spc.org (mindfull.spc.org [83.167.185.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 243E643D62; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 04:30:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bms@spc.org) Received: from arginine.spc.org ([83.167.185.2]) by mindfull.spc.org with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.52) id 1FKT51-0002kc-RS; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 04:30:19 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arginine.spc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D6B65499; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 04:30:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from arginine.spc.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (arginine.spc.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 45076-03; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 04:30:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: by arginine.spc.org (Postfix, from userid 1078) id 32C16653F9; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 04:30:19 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 04:30:19 +0000 From: Bruce M Simpson To: Kan Cai Message-ID: <20060318043019.GR37590@spc.org> Mail-Followup-To: Bruce M Simpson , Kan Cai , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd-net@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Organization: Incunabulum X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mindfull.spc.org X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - spc.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless sensing function is missing? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 04:30:25 -0000 On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 02:00:28PM -0800, Kan Cai wrote: > I wonder if this is true that sensing function is missing? If yes, is it > supposed to be implemented in the driver or net80211 layer? Thanks in > advance! It's a function of the 802.11 hardware. I assume you're describing the CSMA/CA technique. The Coordination Function (CF) in use will also have an effect but you don't specify if you're in IBSS or EBSS mode. How are you getting these figures anyway? Regards, BMS From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 18 05:36:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD7816A400; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 05:36:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kcai@cs.ubc.ca) Received: from mail-relay1.cs.ubc.ca (mail-relay1.cs.ubc.ca [142.103.6.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 296AD43D48; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 05:36:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kcai@cs.ubc.ca) Received: from smtp.cs.ubc.ca (smtp.cs.ubc.ca [142.103.6.52]) by mail-relay1.cs.ubc.ca (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2I5aBxx029623; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 21:36:11 -0800 Received: from granville.cs.ubc.ca (granville.cs.ubc.ca [142.103.7.20]) by smtp.cs.ubc.ca (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2I5aBT5006199 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 17 Mar 2006 21:36:11 -0800 Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 21:36:11 -0800 (PST) From: Kan Cai To: Bruce M Simpson In-Reply-To: <20060318043019.GR37590@spc.org> Message-ID: References: <20060318043019.GR37590@spc.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-PMX-Version: 5.0.3.165339, Antispam-Engine: 2.1.0.0, Antispam-Data: 2006.02.13.071104 X-UBCCS-SpamTag: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __STOCK_CRUFT 0' Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless sensing function is missing? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 05:36:14 -0000 On Sat, 18 Mar 2006, Bruce M Simpson wrote: > On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 02:00:28PM -0800, Kan Cai wrote: >> I wonder if this is true that sensing function is missing? If yes, is it >> supposed to be implemented in the driver or net80211 layer? Thanks in >> advance! > > It's a function of the 802.11 hardware. I assume you're describing the > CSMA/CA technique. The Coordination Function (CF) in use will also have > an effect but you don't specify if you're in IBSS or EBSS mode. Yes, I meant CSMA. But I was actually using ralink card, which has 802.11 firmware implemented in open source. I am aware that freebsd has a 80211 layer as well. So before I dig into the source, I would appreciate it if anyone can let me know where CSMA is implemented, in the driver or net80211 provided by freebsd. I tried both ad hoc mode and hostap mode, btw. > > How are you getting these figures anyway? I use two threads broadcasting and receiving packets, and measure their rates every 10 seconds. Two nodes are put on the edge of transmission range, and then put garbage cans filled with paper (water might be better) around one node so that they can absorb signals and interfere the signal propagation. This was just trying to verify if CSMA actually works. But as the data suggests that it seems that sensing isn't in place. Thanks, --ken > > Regards, > BMS > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >