From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 12 14:00:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A46316A401 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 14:00:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from davej@wsnet.co.za) Received: from ctb-mesg2.saix.net (ctb-mesg2.saix.net [196.25.240.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8C6A43D46 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 14:00:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from davej@wsnet.co.za) Received: from laptop (dsl-146-211-180.telkomadsl.co.za [165.146.211.180]) by ctb-mesg2.saix.net (Postfix) with SMTP id D30411D70 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 16:00:12 +0200 (SAST) Message-ID: <002b01c645dd$cc6a3800$5b00a8c0@laptop> From: "Dave Johnson" To: Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 16:03:51 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: IPFW problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 14:00:19 -0000 Hi all I am having a problem with ipfw.=20 Please have a look at www.pastebin.com/597707 I could not ping anything so I hashed out line 62 & 70=20 Now I can ping 192.168.0.2 but not 192.168.0.1. Also browsing and email is not working.=20 Thanks Regards From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 12 14:27:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF74F16A400 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 14:27:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63CB343D46 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 14:27:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E695CF3; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 09:27:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 49987-10; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 09:27:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-129-91.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.129.91]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7FE75CB3; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 09:27:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <44142FB9.40009@mac.com> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 09:27:05 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Johnson References: <002b01c645dd$cc6a3800$5b00a8c0@laptop> In-Reply-To: <002b01c645dd$cc6a3800$5b00a8c0@laptop> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 14:27:05 -0000 Dave Johnson wrote: > Hi all > > I am having a problem with ipfw. > > Please have a look at www.pastebin.com/597707 > > I could not ping anything so I hashed out line 62 & 70 > > Now I can ping 192.168.0.2 but not 192.168.0.1. > > Also browsing and email is not working. Um. Your IPFW rules don't seem to make a whole lot of sense [1], but I would imagine the specific problem is: 53 $cmd 00300 deny all from 192.168.0.0/16 to any in via $pif ...try adding the log keyword to each deny line and you will get more useful information from the packet filter rules. -- -Chuck [1]: Please re-examine the sample rulesets in /etc/rc.firewall, and be aware that you need to adjust your anti-spoofing rules if you actually use RFC-1918 unroutable subnets, which you seem to be doing. The fact that your "external interface" is pointing to a 192.168.0.1 default router means that some other device is already doing NAT, so you should possibly re-evaluate doing NAT on the FreeBSD system as well. Chaining multiple levels of NAT translation together is generally painful without even considering the difficulty of setting up sane firewall rules to describe the topology. From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 12 18:28:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E27F816A401 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 18:28:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dennisolvany@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CCF043D46 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 18:28:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dennisolvany@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i5so1180118wra for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 10:28:52 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sUJlVaYIrpflrXjNUCCA2ab5T1tv7r3gvr9x/6wHUCVMI+L5vrdSASlszZtKd4EF+RcgZK37mBlF3cdJH3b8qjI8kjrH8YMiSjA7lKAOhJcYnJBBJz7T899PM7ngJzhyGMCRjv4oMsewYmHeN8JBlgUx685yvynXvgzNO8FjXRU= Received: by 10.54.148.10 with SMTP id v10mr1908005wrd; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 10:28:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.102.3? ( [67.102.60.210]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 14sm3364609wrl.2006.03.12.10.28.51; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 10:28:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <44146800.30707@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 12:27:12 -0600 From: Dennis Olvany User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060211) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Johnson References: <002b01c645dd$cc6a3800$5b00a8c0@laptop> In-Reply-To: <002b01c645dd$cc6a3800$5b00a8c0@laptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 18:28:54 -0000 You need to reconsider the entire ruleset. Begin with a structured ruleset such as the following and build from there. Use a discrete ruleset for the router host. check-state allow ip from me to any keep-state deny ip from me to any allow icmp from any to me icmptypes 3,4,8,11 keep-state deny ip from any to me allow ip from 192.168.1.0/24 to any keep-state deny ip from 192.168.1.0/24 to any allow icmp from any to 192.168.1.0/24 3,4,8,11 keep-state deny ip from any to 192.168.1.0/24 [default deny] 1. /etc/rc .conf 2. 3. defaultrouter="192.168.0.1" 4. gateway_enable="YES" 5. hostname="gateway.myatt.co.za" 6. ifconfig_rl0="inet 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0" 7. ifconfig_rl1="inet 192.168.1.100 netmask 255.255.255.0" 8. linux_enable="YES" 9. moused_enable="YES" 10. sshd_enable="YES" 11. usbd_enable="YES" 12. firewall_enable="YES" 13. #firewall_type="OPEN" 14. firewall_script="/etc/ipfw.rules" 15. firewall_quiet="NO" 16. RULESET HAS LOGGING RULES firewall_logging="NO" 17. RULESET HAS NO DIVERT RULE natd_program="/sbin/natd" 18. natd_enable="YES" 19. natd_interface="rl0" 20. natd_flags="-f /etc/natd.conf" 21. sendmail_submit_enable="NO" 22. sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" 23. sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" 24. 25. /etc/natd.conf 26. 27. interface rl0 28. use_sockets yes 29. same_ports yes 30. log 31. 32. /etc/ipfw.rules 33. 34. ipfw -q -f flush 35. cmd="ipfw -q add" 36. pif="rl0" 37. BAD $cmd 00005 allow all from any to any via rl1 38. $cmd 00010 allow all from any to any via lo0 39. $cmd 00015 check-state 40. CAT IPs... SHOULD BE UDP, EH. $cmd 00110 allow tcp from any to 196.2.48.227 53 out via $pif setup keep-state 41. $cmd 00111 allow tcp from any to 196.2.43.140 53 out via $pif keep-state 42. CAT PORT NUMBERS $cmd 00200 allow tcp from any to any 80 out via $pif setup keep-state 43. $cmd 00220 allow tcp from any to any 443 out via $pif setup keep-state 44. $cmd 00230 allow tcp from any to any 25 out via $pif setup keep-state 45. $cmd 00231 allow tcp from any to any 110 out via $pif setup keep-state 46. $cmd 00240 allow tcp from me to any out via $pif setup keep-state uid root 47. $cmd 00250 allow icmp from any to any out via $pif keep-state 48. $cmd 00260 allow tcp from any to any 37 out via $pif setup keep-state 49. $cmd 00270 allow tcp from any to any 119 out via $pif setup keep-state 50. $cmd 00280 allow tcp from any to any 22 out via $pif setup keep-state 51. $cmd 00290 allow tcp from any to any 43 out via $pif setup keep-state 52. $cmd 00299 deny log all from any to any out via $pif 53. 53-61 USELESS $cmd 00300 deny all from 192.168.0.0/16 to any in via $pif 54. $cmd 00301 deny all from 172.16.0.0/12 to any in via $pif 55. $cmd 00302 deny all from 10.0.0.0/8 to any in via $pif 56. $cmd 00303 deny all from 127.0.0.0/8 to any in via $pif 57. $cmd 00304 deny all from 0.0.0.0/8 to any in via $pif 58. $cmd 00305 deny all from 169.254.0.0/16 to any in via $pif 59. $cmd 00306 deny all from 192.0.2.0/24 to any in via $pif 60. $cmd 00307 deny all from 204.152.64.0/23 to any in via $pif 61. $cmd 00308 deny all from 224.0.0.0/3 to any in via $pif 62. $cmd 00310 deny icmp from any to any in via $pif 63. $cmd 00315 deny tcp from any to any 113 in via $pif 64. $cmd 00320 deny tcp from any to any 137 in via $pif 65. $cmd 00321 deny tcp from any to any 138 in via $pif 66. $cmd 00322 deny tcp from any to any 139 in via $pif 67. $cmd 00323 deny tcp from any to any 81 in via $pif 68. $cmd 00330 deny all from any to any frag in via $pif 69. $cmd 00332 deny tcp from any to any established in via $pif 70. $cmd 00410 allow tcp from any to me 22 in via $pif setup limit src-addr 2 71. $cmd 00499 deny log all from any to any in via $pif 72. $cmd 00999 deny log all from any to any From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 13 08:57:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A01D16A400 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 08:57:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C1FA43D45 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 08:57:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i29so883586wxd for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 00:57:35 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=DwmlnyJLCbyac/uHE0F/WkYz03pXvVZGgMTkQuLOm6N/Kch+NJ79QPONjSaG7xG+uiP3kmVJS1KW86EP+SPVaX8VJLCDPsSZRX/ak1cN/bLwN4JZ47j/F+4chjiDTvuV79phwxxtEJncBjdD1KE077LpROXkvF30PbwkTbS3czU= Received: by 10.70.98.9 with SMTP id v9mr2645042wxb; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 00:57:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.65.9 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 00:57:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 02:57:35 -0600 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: floating a server room... how do you deal with ethernet connections? X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 08:57:38 -0000 I'm currently planning renovations for the power mains supplying are server room. One of the ideas I have is to float the entire room using a isolation transformer. The only problem to this solution, that I can think of, is that all of the equipment that's attached to the other end of the Ethernet cabling won't be isolated, the NIC cards do have 1:1 transformer coupling for the wire pairs but... In the event of power surges, spikes, brownouts, and/or nearby lighting strikes I feel that It's conceivable for there to be a large voltage differential on the wires that could damage the equipment on ether end of the wire. Are there any easy (cheap) work arounds to this problem, will those RJ45 network surge protectors work.... Or am I completely off base in thinking that this would be a problem? -- BSD Podcasts @ http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 13 09:56:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D18A516A422 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:56:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.surekha@samsung.com) Received: from mailout1.samsung.com (mailout1.samsung.com [203.254.224.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59A3943D49 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:56:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from b.surekha@samsung.com) Received: from ep_mmp1 (mailout1.samsung.com [203.254.224.24]) by mailout1.samsung.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IW200G348YJRJ@mailout1.samsung.com> for freebsd-net@freebsd.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:56:44 +0900 (KST) Received: from SUREKHAB ([107.108.72.112]) by mmp1.samsung.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTPA id <0IW200CYJ8XOPM@mmp1.samsung.com> for freebsd-net@freebsd.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:56:43 +0900 (KST) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:26:23 +0530 From: Surekha In-reply-to: To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Message-id: <017301c64684$73ab4770$70486c6b@sisodomain.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Subject: Configuring IPsec for Kame MIPv6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:56:48 -0000 Hi, I want to do MIPv6 setup with the Kame MIPv6 stack. I downloaded the following snap shot: kame-20060220-freebsd54-snap.tar I am not able to configure security association between HA and MN. All documents in net whatever I searched for are for only Freebsd 4.11. I need them for freebsd54. Kindly help me in resolving it. Thanks & Best Regards, Surekha. From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 13 10:30:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E9C916A400 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:30:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keiichi@iijlab.net) Received: from omgo.iij.ad.jp (omgo.iij.ad.jp [202.232.30.157]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97BCB43D45 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:30:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keiichi@iijlab.net) Received: OTM-MO id k2DAUBb2024722; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:30:11 +0900 (JST) Received: OTM-MIX0 id k2DAUAdD018199; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:30:10 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (keiichi00.osaka.iij.ad.jp [192.168.64.45]) by jc-smtp.iij.ad.jp (JC-SMTP/jc-smtp) id k2DAU9cL021946; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:30:10 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:30:44 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20060313.193044.95668658.keiichi@iijlab.net> To: b.surekha@samsung.com From: Keiichi SHIMA In-Reply-To: <017301c64684$73ab4770$70486c6b@sisodomain.com> References: <017301c64684$73ab4770$70486c6b@sisodomain.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 4.1.50 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Configuring IPsec for Kame MIPv6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:30:13 -0000 Hi, Please send your question to snap-users@kame.net, since your question is a KAME specific topic. --- Keiichi SHIMA IIJ Research Laboratory KAME Project From: Surekha Subject: Configuring IPsec for Kame MIPv6 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:26:23 +0530 > > Hi, > > I want to do MIPv6 setup with the Kame MIPv6 stack. > I downloaded the following snap shot: kame-20060220-freebsd54-snap.tar > I am not able to configure security association between HA and MN. > All documents in net whatever I searched for are for only Freebsd 4.11. > I need them for freebsd54. > Kindly help me in resolving it. > > Thanks & Best Regards, > Surekha. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 13 11:02:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FE8016A430 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:02:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C6243D49 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:02:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2DB2omt097705 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:02:50 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k2DB2miE097699 for freebsd-net@freebsd.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:02:48 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:02:48 GMT Message-Id: <200603131102.k2DB2miE097699@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to you X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:02:52 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. 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From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 13 13:04:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E05F16A41F for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:04:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonas@servicefactory.se) Received: from ark.servicefactory.se (ark.servicefactory.se [217.13.255.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4721843D55 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:04:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonas@servicefactory.se) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ark.servicefactory.se [217.13.255.29]) by ark.servicefactory.se (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k2DD4ZON002838 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:04:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jonas@servicefactory.se) Message-ID: <44156D6C.7050605@servicefactory.se> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:02:36 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jonas_B=FClow?= Organization: Service Factory User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051205 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, sv MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: IPSec and packet filtering in FreeBSD 6.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:04:45 -0000 Hi, I have some question regarding IPSec and it's use togoether with packet filtering in FreeBSD 6.0. The network picture is shown here: C<---->A<---->B<---->@ C = Client, i.e windows PC. A = Some WaveLAN AP with IPSec/tunnel functionality. E.g. Cisco, Ericsson, Netgear, D-Link... B = FreeBSD 6.0 box acting as gateway. @ = Internet The AP A tunnels the network C is on to B through a IPSec-tunnel. B terminates the IPSec-tunnel. The IPSec configuration in B is "by the book" using a gif-interface to ease routing configuration and allow packet originate in B. So far, everything works fine. The problems arise when B performs packet filtering on the tunneled traffic from A. First observation is that, when using IPSec/tunnel-mode, nothing is seen with tcpdump on the gif-interface. It seems like the bpf-hook on the gif-interface is not called. Neither does IPFilter see any packets on the gif-interface. Running tcpdump on the physical interface towards A, I see the encapsulated traffic. Using ipfilter's log option I can see the encapsulated traffic and the decapsulated *incoming* traffic. Outgoing traffic, to be encapsulated by IPSec/tunnel, is not seen. As a consequence it is only possible to filter decapsulated incoming traffic. IPFilter is used for legacy reasons. The same problems seems to apply to ipfw. Another issue is if A is a DHCP relay and B is the DHCP server. As bpf is not working on gif interfaces, ISC_DHCP will not work. Even if bpf should work on gif, ISC-DHCP does work on interfaces with link-type NULL. I guess this last problem is just "a small matter of programming" to fix. I will happily contribute patches for this when I've solved the bigger IPSec/tunnel problem above. The kernel is compiled with IPSEC_FILTERGIF. Has anyone succeeded with a setup similar to this one? Is there some obvious tweaks to do to make it work? I've read someware on this list IPSec should be on the pfil interface. Is someone working in that direction? Is there any other plan on chaning the integration of IPSec in FreeBSD? If someone can redirect me to current work on IPSec, I would be glad to help. /j From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 13 13:16:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7C016A41F for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:16:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE4DC43D45 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:16:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD4D15D00; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 08:16:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 54697-02; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 08:16:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-129-91.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.129.91]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A79E5C28; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 08:16:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4415709D.4070203@mac.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 08:16:13 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikolas Britton References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: floating a server room... how do you deal with ethernet connections? X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:16:13 -0000 Nikolas Britton wrote: > I'm currently planning renovations for the power mains supplying are > server room. One of the ideas I have is to float the entire room using > a isolation transformer. Umph, that's normally only needed if you are seeing extreme line noise or have other serious problems with the building mains supply like a poor or faulty building ground. If you do have building grounding problems, then using an isolation transformer will probably help your equipment but the problem should still be fixed elsewhere. > The only problem to this solution, that I can > think of, is that all of the equipment that's attached to the other > end of the Ethernet cabling won't be isolated, the NIC cards do have > 1:1 transformer coupling for the wire pairs but... In the event of > power surges, spikes, brownouts, and/or nearby lighting strikes I feel > that It's conceivable for there to be a large voltage differential on > the wires that could damage the equipment on ether end of the wire. Actually, you don't even need a lightning strike-- one can see 50 to 100V swings in relative voltages between neutral and the fusebox ground or neutral and a water pipe just by having the building ground fail. [1] Adding an isolation transformer to the mix won't hurt, but it won't help that much, either. If you want room-wide surge suppression at the breaker panel, get a TVSS or a 10kVA or larger UPS. Consider something like the Leviton 54000 or 57000: http://www.weberelectricsupply.com/57000.html http://www.leviton.com/sections/prodinfo/newprod/npleadin.htm ...which are rated for 3-phase "wye" 120/208V or 277/408V @ 100 amps per phase, and run about two grand. The other choice would be to hunt down a PowerWare or maybe an APC Symmetra UPS, which will run 20-30K. Note that the APC Symmetra cheats and doesn't provide galvanic isolation during normal operation, whereas the PowerWare runs the inverter continuously which is a bit less efficient, but gives cleaner power. These sorts of units ought to have a "DC servo offset circuit", if I'm remembering the details and phrase right, which will compensate for a constant voltage differential between neutral and ground. -- -Chuck [1]: Three guesses as to how I know this? :-) From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 13 13:18:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D1F16A420 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:18:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vanhu@zeninc.net) Received: from leia.fdn.fr (ns0.fdn.org [80.67.169.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 206F443D55 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:18:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vanhu@zeninc.net) Received: from smtp.zeninc.net (reverse-25.fdn.fr [80.67.176.25]) by leia.fdn.fr (8.13.3/8.13.3/FDN) with ESMTP id k2DDIABj007325 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:18:11 +0100 Received: by smtp.zeninc.net (smtpd, from userid 1000) id 0BB4F3F17; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:18:05 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:18:05 +0100 From: VANHULLEBUS Yvan To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060313131804.GA23258@zen.inc> References: <44156D6C.7050605@servicefactory.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <44156D6C.7050605@servicefactory.se> User-Agent: All mail clients suck. This one just sucks less. Subject: Re: IPSec and packet filtering in FreeBSD 6.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:18:14 -0000 On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 02:02:36PM +0100, Jonas Bülow wrote: > Hi, Hi. [....] > Running tcpdump on the physical interface towards A, I see the > encapsulated traffic. Using ipfilter's log option I can see the > encapsulated traffic and the decapsulated *incoming* traffic. Outgoing > traffic, to be encapsulated by IPSec/tunnel, is not seen. As a > consequence it is only possible to filter decapsulated incoming > traffic. I have a patch to add some kind of OpenBSD's enc0 interface to filter incoming IPSec traffic, and to be able to do some tcpdumps for both incoming/outgoing IPSec traffic. I still have to do some minor cleanups on it before sending the PR, it should be done during this week. [....] > I've read someware on this list IPSec should be on the pfil > interface. Is someone working in that direction? Is there any other > plan on chaning the integration of IPSec in FreeBSD? Where did you read this ? Yvan. -- NETASQ - Secure Internet Connectivity http://www.netasq.com From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 13 13:36:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F04516A400 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:36:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.candler@pobox.com) Received: from proof.pobox.com (proof.pobox.com [207.106.133.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 746D143D58 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:36:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from b.candler@pobox.com) Received: from proof (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by proof.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91ED9EB8C; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 08:36:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mappit.local.linnet.org (212-74-113-67.static.dsl.as9105.com [212.74.113.67]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by proof.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C0EA26FBA; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 08:36:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists by mappit.local.linnet.org with local (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1FInDw-000DNE-45; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:36:36 +0000 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:36:36 +0000 From: Brian Candler To: Nikolas Britton Message-ID: <20060313133635.GA51377@uk.tiscali.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: floating a server room... how do you deal with ethernet connections? X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:36:44 -0000 On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 02:57:35AM -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote: > I'm currently planning renovations for the power mains supplying are > server room. One of the ideas I have is to float the entire room using > a isolation transformer. The only problem to this solution, that I can > think of, is that all of the equipment that's attached to the other > end of the Ethernet cabling won't be isolated, the NIC cards do have > 1:1 transformer coupling for the wire pairs but... In the event of > power surges, spikes, brownouts, and/or nearby lighting strikes I feel > that It's conceivable for there to be a large voltage differential on > the wires that could damage the equipment on ether end of the wire. > > Are there any easy (cheap) work arounds to this problem You could use fibre. Might not immediately qualify as "easy or cheap", but then again, if you've got local distribution switches in each floating rack, then all you need is fibre uplinks to the central switching infrastructure. But apart from that, I can't say how good an idea floating the room is. AFAIK, most mains inlet filters have some inductive and capacitive components to earth, so it may not float that far. Regards, Brian. From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 13 16:33:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF6716A420 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:33:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list@talha.com) Received: from dione.webserversystems.com (dione.webserversystems.com [216.118.97.187]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AACD143D76 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:33:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list@talha.com) Received: from talha by dione.webserversystems.com with local (Exim 4.52) id 1FIpz3-00041j-AP; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:33:25 -0500 To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:33:25 -0500 From: sheeda Message-ID: <88e4c6d9ae3b630849eaef06bfb8fb0b@talha.com> X-Sender: list@talha.com User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.1-20051021 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dione.webserversystems.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [33056 500] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - talha.com X-Source: /usr/bin/php X-Source-Args: /usr/bin/php index.php X-Source-Dir: talha.com:/public_html/mail Cc: talha@talha.com Subject: netgraph issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:33:46 -0000 hello everyone, i am new to netgraph and have been experimenting with few very basic configurations and facing some issues. i have got 2 machines, A & C, connected via third machine B with dual nics, with everything in same subnet. A <-----> B <-----> C i have used the bridge script in /usr/share/examples/netgraph and i am successfully able to ping between A and C. i did some experiments and getting weird results: 1. i cleaned up the tee node and compiled a pipe node by removing the lefttoright and righttoleft hooks. once i load the ng_pipe.ko module and place it between the two ether nodes on lower hooks, i can't ping between A and C. i even switched the 2 interfaces to promisc mode and disabled the mac auto source thing through the msg command. (lnc0)-----(pipe)-----(lnc1) the ping strangely starts working if i start and stop the bridge script and then connect my pipe node, even after unloading the ng_bridge module. 2. i suspected some issue with my pipe netgraph node, therefore connected the two ether nodes directly via lower hooks and had the same issue. the A & C starts communicating again once i start and stop the bridge script and then connect the lower hooks and set the promisious modes. (lnc0)----------------(lnc1) lower all my 3 machines are freebsd release 3 in vmware. i have even tried setting up the static arps on A and C but it makes no difference. another interesting thing i found was that if i shutdown my pipe node, the two ether nodes connect directly on lower hooks and the ping continues to work. please let me know if this is all the default behaviour or if i am missing something. thanks to everyone for their help in advance. regards, sheeda From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 13 18:51:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F4E016A401 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:51:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list@talha.com) Received: from dione.webserversystems.com (dione.webserversystems.com [216.118.97.187]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC27343D48 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:51:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list@talha.com) Received: from talha by dione.webserversystems.com with local (Exim 4.52) id 1FIs92-0006Gp-28 for freebsd-net@freebsd.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:51:52 -0500 To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:51:52 -0500 From: sheeda In-Reply-To: 88e4c6d9ae3b630849eaef06bfb8fb0b@talha.com Message-ID: <0be9859c231bc10fb899957a22c72dc2@talha.com> X-Sender: list@talha.com User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.1-20051021 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dione.webserversystems.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [33056 500] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - talha.com X-Source: /usr/bin/php X-Source-Args: /usr/bin/php index.php X-Source-Dir: talha.com:/public_html/mail Subject: Re: netgraph issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:51:54 -0000 sorry for the typo, the freebsd version is release 6.0 sheeda On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:33:25 -0500, sheeda wrote: > > hello everyone, > > i am new to netgraph and have been experimenting with few very basic > configurations and facing some issues. > > i have got 2 machines, A & C, connected via third machine B with dual > nics, with everything in same subnet. > > A <-----> B <-----> C > > i have used the bridge script in /usr/share/examples/netgraph and i am > successfully able to ping between A and C. > > i did some experiments and getting weird results: > > 1. i cleaned up the tee node and compiled a pipe node by removing the > lefttoright and righttoleft hooks. once i load the ng_pipe.ko module and > place it between the two ether nodes on lower hooks, i can't ping between > A and C. i even switched the 2 interfaces to promisc mode and disabled the > mac auto source thing through the msg command. > > (lnc0)-----(pipe)-----(lnc1) > > the ping strangely starts working if i start and stop the bridge script > and then connect my pipe node, even after unloading the ng_bridge module. > > 2. i suspected some issue with my pipe netgraph node, therefore connected > the two ether nodes directly via lower hooks and had the same issue. the A > & C starts communicating again once i start and stop the bridge script and > then connect the lower hooks and set the promisious modes. > > (lnc0)----------------(lnc1) > lower > > all my 3 machines are freebsd release 3 in vmware. i have even tried > setting up the static arps on A and C but it makes no difference. > > another interesting thing i found was that if i shutdown my pipe node, the > two ether nodes connect directly on lower hooks and the ping continues to > work. > > please let me know if this is all the default behaviour or if i am missing > something. > > thanks to everyone for their help in advance. > > regards, > > sheeda > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 13 19:29:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DBCB16A41F for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:29:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from a50.ironport.com (a50.ironport.com [63.251.108.112]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CDB143D6D for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:29:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from unknown (HELO [10.251.17.229]) ([10.251.17.229]) by a50.ironport.com with ESMTP; 13 Mar 2006 11:29:52 -0800 Message-ID: <4415C82E.5030209@elischer.org> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:29:50 -0800 From: Julian Elischer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.11) Gecko/20050727 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sheeda References: <88e4c6d9ae3b630849eaef06bfb8fb0b@talha.com> In-Reply-To: <88e4c6d9ae3b630849eaef06bfb8fb0b@talha.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, talha@talha.com Subject: Re: netgraph issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:29:55 -0000 sheeda wrote: >hello everyone, > >i am new to netgraph and have been experimenting with few very basic configurations and facing some issues. > >i have got 2 machines, A & C, connected via third machine B with dual nics, with everything in same subnet. > >A <-----> B <-----> C > >i have used the bridge script in /usr/share/examples/netgraph and i am successfully able to ping between A and C. > >i did some experiments and getting weird results: > >1. i cleaned up the tee node and compiled a pipe node by removing the lefttoright and righttoleft hooks. once i load the ng_pipe.ko module and place it between the two ether nodes on lower hooks, i can't ping between A and C. i even switched the 2 interfaces to promisc mode and disabled the mac auto source thing through the msg command. > >(lnc0)-----(pipe)-----(lnc1) > >the ping strangely starts working if i start and stop the bridge script and then connect my pipe node, even after unloading the ng_bridge module. > > I tho9ught that the the bridge node sent some contol messages to the interfaces it is connected to but looking quickly at it, I can;t see that now. (?).. why not start with a bridge node and simplfy that? then you could see when it breaks :-) >2. i suspected some issue with my pipe netgraph node, therefore connected the two ether nodes directly via lower hooks and had the same issue. the A & C starts communicating again once i start and stop the bridge script and then connect the lower hooks and set the promisious modes. > >(lnc0)----------------(lnc1) > lower > >all my 3 machines are freebsd release 3 in vmware. i have even tried setting up the static arps on A and C but it makes no difference. > >another interesting thing i found was that if i shutdown my pipe node, the two ether nodes connect directly on lower hooks and the ping continues to work. > >please let me know if this is all the default behaviour or if i am missing something. > > I think we're missing something.. >thanks to everyone for their help in advance. > >regards, > >sheeda > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 13 20:21:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3D416A400 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:21:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quetzal@zone3000.net) Received: from mx1.sitevalley.com (sitevalley.com [209.67.60.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2272843D49 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:20:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from quetzal@zone3000.net) Received: from zone3000.kharkov.ua (HELO viking.zone3000.net) (217.144.68.98) by sitevalley.com with SMTP; 13 Mar 2006 20:20:58 -0000 Received: from viking.zone3000.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by viking.zone3000.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2DKMKBX007460 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:22:31 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from quetzal@viking.zone3000.net) Received: (from quetzal@localhost) by viking.zone3000.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k2DKMKbu007333 for freebsd-net@freebsd.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:22:20 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from quetzal) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:22:16 +0200 From: Nikolay Pavlov To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060313202216.GA80839@zone3000.net> Mail-Followup-To: Nikolay Pavlov , freebsd-net@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: man if_bridge need an improvement X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:21:00 -0000 Hi, folks. I think that if_bridge(4) man need a additional note. Something like: If you are using interface as a bridge member without any ip address assigned, you need to enable it via "ifconfig interface up" command. Or you can add "ifconfig_interface="up"" to your /etc/rc.conf. It's very hard to figure it out when you configure bridge for the first time. Should i submit a PR or forward this to doc? -- ============================================================================ = Best regards, Nikolay Pavlov. <<<--------------------------------------- = ============================================================================ From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 14 03:35:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D832C16A400 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 03:35:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from moonbluez@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62BC343D53 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 03:35:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from moonbluez@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r21so1393593wxc for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:35:09 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=VqLYvaw3HidVXjKkWQIdPmZw/bb7lN+Rvr/nkc25tBrjxPnrAVkyxMlqF/C6Tvbe4JR32GGVMr2q37NgMXS2NCdbVL5bGAkqVjaIEpgwEogaxnsw1mgOLElcnBSJ+ogpShdtYrCTGgWEAzUGC34OQh9B0AvzBDUkQdY9p/KcU7E= Received: by 10.70.75.10 with SMTP id x10mr7705145wxa; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:35:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.27.13 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:35:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1bdd14300603131935m7166bb05i428cee5b8f1a2585@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:35:09 +0700 From: MoonblueZ To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: arp_rtrequest X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 03:35:10 -0000 i have some log in /var/log/message right this : Mar 14 10:44:27 cidomo kernel: arp_rtrequest: bad gateway 202.161.14.115(!AF_LINK) Mar 14 10:45:23 cidomo squid[431]: parseHttpRequest: PF open failed: (13) Permission denied i dont know what is mean, anyone can help me? -- No Rulez No Filterz From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 14 08:48:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3F8D16A4C0 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:48:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@tao.org.uk) Received: from mailhost.tao.org.uk (transwarp.tao.org.uk [87.74.4.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4CD443D48 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:48:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joe@tao.org.uk) Received: from genius.tao.org.uk (genius.tao.org.uk [87.74.4.41]) by mailhost.tao.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 514956036; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:48:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: by genius.tao.org.uk (Postfix, from userid 100) id 14C584074; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:48:33 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:48:33 +0000 From: Josef Karthauser To: current@frebsd.org Message-ID: <20060314084833.GD1851@genius.tao.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Josef Karthauser , current@frebsd.org, net@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AbQceqfdZEv+FvjW" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: net@freebsd.org Subject: Laptop panics, related to networking after resume. (kern/94380) X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:48:40 -0000 --AbQceqfdZEv+FvjW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi guys, I wonder whether I might bring this ticket to someone's notice? 6.x is currently broken with respect to suspend/resume and networking (at least on my sony laptop), where it wasn't a few months ago. Thanks :) Joe ----- Forwarded message from FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org ----- Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 09:41:00 GMT To: Josef Karthauser =46rom: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: kern/94380: Laptop panics, related to networking after resume. Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org Thank you very much for your problem report. It has the internal identification `kern/94380'. The individual assigned to look at your report is: freebsd-bugs.=20 You can access the state of your problem report at any time via this link: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D94380 >Category: kern >Responsible: freebsd-bugs >Synopsis: Laptop panics, related to networking after resume. >Arrival-Date: Sun Mar 12 09:41:00 GMT 2006 ----- End forwarded message ----- --=20 Josef Karthauser (joe@tao.org.uk) http://www.josef-k.net/ FreeBSD (cvs meister, admin and hacker) http://www.uk.FreeBSD.org/ Physics Particle Theory (student) http://www.pact.cpes.sussex.ac.uk/ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D An eclectic mix of fact an= d theory. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D --AbQceqfdZEv+FvjW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkQWg2AACgkQXVIcjOaxUBa4LgCcDbYxseG9a+i7muM1OtizxJVY qIQAninPj3IoueRhAJHc3oAG9xrV/CSn =OS0O -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AbQceqfdZEv+FvjW-- From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 14 10:48:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D5216A41F for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:48:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oxy@field.hu) Received: from green.field.hu (green.field.hu [217.20.130.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E0FF43D45 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:48:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oxy@field.hu) Received: from localhost (green.field.hu [217.20.130.28]) by green.field.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A9B119D4E for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:46:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from green.field.hu ([217.20.130.28]) by localhost (green.field.hu [217.20.130.28]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32924-02 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:46:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from oxy (dsl217-197-187-71.pool.tvnet.hu [217.197.187.71]) by green.field.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CBE5119CC4 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:46:19 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001101c64754$cbbd65d0$0201a8c0@oxy> From: "OxY" To: Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:48:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-Virus-Scanned: by Amavisd-new (Spamassassin+Razor2+Pyzor+DCC+Bayes db, Clamd Antivirus) at field.hu Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: problem with Marwell gigabit performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:48:13 -0000 hi! i have a Marwell (SMC) gigabit ethernet card (sk0) and=20 have serious problems with performance.. the machine is a pc, amd 2000+ xp, 512mb ram. tested with iperf (bidirectional test, udp transfer, not stream) and got 8-15% packet drop when the system was idle. then tuned the sysctl with these settings: kern.ipc.maxsockbuf=3D81920000 kern.ipc.nmbclusters=3D5000000000 kern.ipc.somaxconn=3D8192 net.inet.tcp.inflight.enable=3D1 net.inet.raw.recvspace=3D4096 net.inet.tcp.recvspace=3D131072 kern.ipc.shmmax=3D409600000 with these i got around 3-7% packet drop, but it's very high compared to zero :) my question is where/what should i optimize to not have packet drop at all, or at least reduce it as much as possible. thanks for your help! Csaba Banhalmi, HU From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 14 15:56:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF6E516A401 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:56:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rea@rea.mbslab.kiae.ru) Received: from rea.mbslab.kiae.ru (rea.mbslab.kiae.ru [144.206.177.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7106643D45 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:56:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rea@rea.mbslab.kiae.ru) Received: from rea.mbslab.kiae.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rea.mbslab.kiae.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62F82BABE; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:56:10 +0300 (MSK) Received: by rea.mbslab.kiae.ru (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 377B2BAA1; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:56:10 +0300 (MSK) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:56:10 +0300 From: Eygene Ryabinkin To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060314155610.GA990@rea.mbslab.kiae.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline X-AV-Checked: Yes! Subject: Two network-related PRs X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:56:11 -0000 Good day! I've made two PRs (and pathes for them) that are related to the networking subsystem. URL: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=94408 Name: kern/94408: if_bridge breaks proxy ARP functionality Description: Proxy ARP entries will not be correctly processed if they belongs to the bridged interface: other interface from this bridge will not get the replies for this ARP record. URL: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=94448 Name: kern/94448: if_bridge modifies IP length and offset fields for broadcast packets Description: In some curcumstances if_bridge will modify the 'length' and 'offset' fields of IP packet for Ethernet broadcasts: bytes will be transformed from the network to the host byte order. Please, have a look. If anyone can try this patches, I will be glad to hear about the results. I'll be glad if someone will commit them into -CURRENT, 6.x and 5.x. Thanks! -- Eygene From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 14 16:06:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3593116A423 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:06:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rik@inse.ru) Received: from mail.inse.ru (inse.ru [144.206.128.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C602D43D49 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:06:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rik@inse.ru) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (www.inse.ru [144.206.128.1]) by mail.inse.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05A0133C27; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:06:48 +0300 (MSK) Message-ID: <4416EB03.9010001@inse.ru> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:10:43 +0300 From: Roman Kurakin User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060131) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eygene Ryabinkin References: <20060314155610.GA990@rea.mbslab.kiae.ru> In-Reply-To: <20060314155610.GA990@rea.mbslab.kiae.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: RFC kern/9448 (was Re: Two network-related PRs) X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:06:49 -0000 Eygene Ryabinkin wrote: > Good day! > I've made two PRs (and pathes for them) that are related to the networking > subsystem. > > URL: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=94408 > Name: kern/94408: if_bridge breaks proxy ARP functionality > Description: > Proxy ARP entries will not be correctly processed if they belongs to the > bridged interface: other interface from this bridge will not get the replies > for this ARP record. > > URL: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=94448 > Name: kern/94448: if_bridge modifies IP length and offset fields for > broadcast packets > Description: > In some curcumstances if_bridge will modify the 'length' and 'offset' fields > of IP packet for Ethernet broadcasts: bytes will be transformed from the > network to the host byte order. > This one looks very serious. Some code after pf could modify packet and all other copies would also be modified. Patch looks good for me. rik > Please, have a look. If anyone can try this patches, I will be glad to > hear about the results. I'll be glad if someone will commit them into > -CURRENT, 6.x and 5.x. > > Thanks! > From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 14 16:08:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE12A16A422 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:08:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rik@inse.ru) Received: from mail.inse.ru (inse.ru [144.206.128.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 529E343D55 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:08:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rik@inse.ru) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (www.inse.ru [144.206.128.1]) by mail.inse.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7385333C27; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:08:45 +0300 (MSK) Message-ID: <4416EB79.3040403@inse.ru> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:12:41 +0300 From: Roman Kurakin User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060131) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eygene Ryabinkin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: RFC kern/94408 (was Re: Two network-related PRs) X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:08:46 -0000 Hi, I'll split this thread on to two. Eygene Ryabinkin wrote: > Good day! > I've made two PRs (and pathes for them) that are related to the networking > subsystem. > > URL: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=94408 > Name: kern/94408: if_bridge breaks proxy ARP functionality > Description: > Proxy ARP entries will not be correctly processed if they belongs to the > bridged interface: other interface from this bridge will not get the replies > for this ARP record. > Looks OK. If no one object I can commit it! > URL: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=94448 > Name: kern/94448: if_bridge modifies IP length and offset fields for > broadcast packets > Description: > In some curcumstances if_bridge will modify the 'length' and 'offset' fields > of IP packet for Ethernet broadcasts: bytes will be transformed from the > network to the host byte order. > > Please, have a look. If anyone can try this patches, I will be glad to > hear about the results. I'll be glad if someone will commit them into > -CURRENT, 6.x and 5.x. > > Thanks! > From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 14 17:31:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E65316A43A for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:31:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saundersconsult@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com (bay115-f16.bay115.hotmail.com [65.54.250.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E88343D69 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:30:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from saundersconsult@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:30:38 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 65.54.250.200 by by115fd.bay115.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:30:36 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.60.108.59] X-Originating-Email: [saundersconsult@hotmail.com] X-Sender: saundersconsult@hotmail.com From: "Shawn Saunders" To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:30:36 -0800 X-Priority: 1 Importance: High Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Mar 2006 17:30:38.0364 (UTC) FILETIME=[02723DC0:01C6478D] Subject: Redirect fec0 to physical NIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:31:00 -0000 I have successfully used add_iface to bond two interfaces to fec0 (10/100's). I would like to now take fec0 and send it out a physical interface, but when I attempt to either add the fec0 interface, or substitute a real interface and use add_iface of two real interfaces to a third real interface, it says that the "Function is not implemented". I am using FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p9. I don't need to use a virtual interface. My real goal is to take traffic from multiple incoming physical interfaces, and redirect them (agregate) out another physical interface. Even if there is traffic loss, that is not a problem. Just need to know if it can be done. If so, I can then work on the bandwidth limitations. From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 14 19:06:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40E4916A41F for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:06:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@successfulhosting.com) Received: from mail.successfulhosting.com (web.successfulhosting.com [147.202.46.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 52C1E43D46 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:06:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@successfulhosting.com) Received: (qmail 94829 invoked by uid 0); 14 Mar 2006 19:08:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO BLADESNITZ) (mhouston@successfulhosting.com@68.205.195.64) by mail.successfulhosting.com with SMTP; 14 Mar 2006 19:08:34 -0000 From: "Matt" To: Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:06:33 -0500 Organization: Successful Hosting Message-ID: <002f01c6479a$696d1510$c802a8c0@BLADESNITZ> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.1830 Thread-Index: AcZHmmiwLC9EXcBVSS6TgY8dScf6QQ== Subject: IPMI During Boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:06:41 -0000 Hello, I've tried to be fairly thorough in researching the problem before posting to the list, however, there doesn't seem to be a great multitude of information out there regarding IPMI configuration on FreeBSD. Here's the setup: I have a SuperMicro 6014H-82 Chassis with the AOC-IPMI20-E (http://supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-IPMI20-E.cfm). The motherboard has an Intel adapter that uses the em(4) driver (so it isn't suppose to suffer the same issues as the bge adapter). I have ensured the MAC address configured for the IPMI matches the MAC address of the network card itself. I'm using a private network IP (192.168.2.41) on the IPMI card itself, and I've tried various settings for the adapter in the OS (I've tried it using the same private IP, and a different private IP). The IPMI function itself works great, I can connect and perform the needed tasks, I can even use Serial-On-Lan to get into the BIOS, the RAID card setup, as well as log into the Operating system. I've also configured the boot settings so that I do get the menu of boot options, and I can see the boot happening. However, here's the issue: During booting, when the "em" driver loads, the IPMI function effectively ceases. From the time the em driver is loaded, until the OS actually configures the network adapter, I do not receive output to the serial console. If I disconnect the IPMI session, I cannot reconnect during the time either (IPMI is suppose to connect at all times, even when the box is powered off!). If I don't disconnect, eventually, all the backlog will spew to the screen and I'll be at the login prompt. However, this poses a problem if I need to use single-user mode or if FSCK requires some intervention. Since single-user mode never configures the network adapter, then it just never comes back. Regarding FSCK, if a box crashes and goes to FSCK, even if its set to automatically fsck (too screwed up for background fsck or something), I have no way of seeing that, since it occurs before the network adapter is configured as well. This kinda defeats the purpose of the IPMI card. I'm using the SuperMicro IPMIView program. I have tried both the regular IPMI firmware that uses a non-standard RMCP protocol, as well as their "beta" firmware that uses the standard RMCP+ protocol. Using the RMCP+ firmware enables me to use ipmitool or such from command line, but the same problem exists. I have tried a multitude of things. I've upgraded to the latest stable version (6-STABLE). Built the latest boot blocks (cd /usr/src/sys/boot && make && make install), installed them (fdisk -B && disklabel -B /dev/aacd0s1). Below are the various configs and messages I can think of to post. The kernel is pretty much GENERIC with maxusers, smp, and quota. /boot.config: -Dh -S19200 /boot/loader.conf: boot_serial="YES" boot_multicons="YES" console="comconsole,vidconsole" comconsole_speed="19200" I'm pretty sure the above is overkill. I've tried using just one or the other or both, and while the console redirection still works, it still freezes when the em driver loads. One thing to note when look at the dmesg. I do see the dmesg load fast on the SOL up until the em loads, and then it shows this: em0: Ethernet address: 00:30:48:2f:51:d2 Until the network interface is brought up in the later boot stages, at which point it flies through what it missed to the login prompt. /var/run/dmesg.boot: Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE #3: Tue Mar 14 13:35:52 EST 2006 root@mysql02.secureserverdot.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SH ACPI APIC Table: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz (2800.12-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf43 Stepping = 3 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x641d> AMD Features=0x20100800 Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs real memory = 5100273664 (4864 MB) avail memory = 4122357760 (3931 MB) FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 6 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 7 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 24-47 on motherboard ioapic2 irqs 48-71 on motherboard acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 cpu1: on acpi0 cpu2: on acpi0 cpu3: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pci0: at device 0.1 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 1.0 (no driver attached) pcib1: irq 16 at device 2.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pcib2: at device 0.0 on pci1 pci2: on pcib2 em0: port 0x2000-0x203f mem 0xd4200000-0xd421ffff irq 30 at device 3.0 on pci2 em0: Ethernet address: 00:30:48:2f:51:d2 em1: port 0x2040-0x207f mem 0xd4220000-0xd423ffff irq 31 at device 3.1 on pci2 em1: Ethernet address: 00:30:48:2f:51:d3 pci1: at device 0.1 (no driver attached) pcib3: at device 0.2 on pci1 pci3: on pcib3 aac0: mem 0xd5000000-0xd5ffffff,0xd4400000-0xd45fffff,0xdc000000-0xdfffffff irq 58 at device 3.0 on pci3 aac0: Enabling 64-bit address support aac0: New comm. interface enabled aac0: Adaptec Raid Controller 2.0.0-1 aacp0: on aac0 aacp1: on aac0 pci1: at device 0.3 (no driver attached) pcib4: irq 16 at device 4.0 on pci0 pci4: on pcib4 pcib5: irq 16 at device 6.0 on pci0 pci5: on pcib5 pcib6: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci6: on pcib6 pci6: at device 1.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x1420-0x142f at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata1: on atapci0 pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) acpi_button0: on acpi0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] uart0: <16550 or compatible> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on acpi0 uart1: <16550 or compatible> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 flags 0x10 on acpi0 uart1: console (19200,n,8,1) fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xc7fff,0xc8000-0xc8fff,0xc9000-0xcd7ff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (amr_linux, 0xffffffff804e02b0, 0) error 6 ipfw2 (+ipv6) initialized, divert loadable, rule-based forwarding disabled, default to accept, logging limited to 100 packets/entry by default acd0: CDROM at ata1-master UDMA33 aacd0: on aac0 aacd0: 17451MB (35739904 sectors) aacd1: on aac0 aacd1: 139981MB (286681856 sectors) SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/aacd0s1a Thanks, Matt From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 14 19:18:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA84216A400 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:18:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: from hydrogen.funkthat.com (gate.funkthat.com [69.17.45.168]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6329E43D48 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:18:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: from hydrogen.funkthat.com (kkob4lrmerg2lucd@localhost.funkthat.com [127.0.0.1]) by hydrogen.funkthat.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k2EJIvCV066101; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:18:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.funkthat.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id k2EJIvBr066100; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:18:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmg) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:18:57 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Shawn Saunders Message-ID: <20060314191857.GS840@funkthat.com> Mail-Followup-To: Shawn Saunders , freebsd-net@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p6 i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ X-Resume: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/resume.html Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Redirect fec0 to physical NIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:18:59 -0000 Shawn Saunders wrote this message on Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 09:30 -0800: > I have successfully used add_iface to bond two interfaces to fec0 > (10/100's). > > I would like to now take fec0 and send it out a physical interface, but > when I attempt to either add the fec0 interface, or substitute a real > interface and use add_iface of two real interfaces to a third real > interface, it says that the "Function is not implemented". I am using > FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p9. > > I don't need to use a virtual interface. My real goal is to take traffic > from multiple incoming physical interfaces, and redirect them (agregate) > out another physical interface. Even if there is traffic loss, that is not > a problem. Just need to know if it can be done. If so, I can then work on > the bandwidth limitations. Sounds like you want to if_bridge the fec0 interface and the other physical interface... -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not." From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 15 00:15:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10A4B16A427 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 00:15:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pyunyh@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2053643D46 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 00:15:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pyunyh@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 8so1628937nzo for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:15:57 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=GfCnS6PaqanvUDUZ2nmIx1BEE7V/8YU/cMwsvGvaDAd3FduFdOK5COPF4FnpfN33W5w/qPlsamUT9RIOMfDOgI6yoaTAHxRVMURJPUwN1nZTf6LRhXEX4+S5IkGJawap5KyrIdQnpcZgJ4Tk5q9+2/pIKFkyp7uWPQebAKdwAoI= Received: by 10.36.220.68 with SMTP id s68mr1961318nzg; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:15:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from michelle.cdnetworks.co.kr ( [211.53.35.84]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 14sm1223079nzp.2006.03.14.16.15.55; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:15:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from michelle.cdnetworks.co.kr (localhost.cdnetworks.co.kr [127.0.0.1]) by michelle.cdnetworks.co.kr (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k2F0I7AD053051 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:18:07 +0900 (KST) (envelope-from pyunyh@gmail.com) Received: (from yongari@localhost) by michelle.cdnetworks.co.kr (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k2F0I6iQ053050; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:18:06 +0900 (KST) (envelope-from pyunyh@gmail.com) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:18:06 +0900 From: Pyun YongHyeon To: OxY Message-ID: <20060315001806.GA52826@cdnetworks.co.kr> References: <001101c64754$cbbd65d0$0201a8c0@oxy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <001101c64754$cbbd65d0$0201a8c0@oxy> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with Marwell gigabit performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: pyunyh@gmail.com List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 00:15:59 -0000 On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 11:48:14AM +0100, OxY wrote: > hi! > > i have a Marwell (SMC) gigabit ethernet card (sk0) and > have serious problems with performance.. > the machine is a pc, amd 2000+ xp, 512mb ram. > > tested with iperf (bidirectional test, udp transfer, not stream) > and got 8-15% packet drop when the system was idle. > There is a modified sk(4) driver at http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/sk/sk_test/if_sk.c http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/sk/sk_test/if_skreg.h Would you please give it try? I can't sure but you would get better results as the new driver uses one lock for standard MTU size and supports Tx TCP checksum offload and Rx IP checksum offload. I could push 32bit PCI NIC(DGE-530T) to the PCI bus limit on sparc64. > then tuned the sysctl with these settings: > > kern.ipc.maxsockbuf=81920000 > kern.ipc.nmbclusters=5000000000 > kern.ipc.somaxconn=8192 > net.inet.tcp.inflight.enable=1 > net.inet.raw.recvspace=4096 > net.inet.tcp.recvspace=131072 > kern.ipc.shmmax=409600000 > > with these i got around 3-7% packet drop, > but it's very high compared to zero :) > > my question is where/what should i optimize to not > have packet drop at all, or at least reduce it as much as > possible. > > thanks for your help! > > Csaba Banhalmi, HU -- Regards, Pyun YongHyeon From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 15 03:45:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 222D016A48B for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 03:45:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from max@love2party.net) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.177]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 489E143D46 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 03:45:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from max@love2party.net) Received: from [84.163.244.176] (helo=amd64.laiers.local) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu5) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML25U-1FJMwc0AE3-0003qq; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 04:45:06 +0100 From: Max Laier Organization: FreeBSD To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 04:41:45 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <200603052102.24881.max@love2party.net> <20060308201150.GB20475@laverenz.de> In-Reply-To: <20060308201150.GB20475@laverenz.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2078591.WCWfSKuo4P"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200603150441.50904.max@love2party.net> X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:61c499deaeeba3ba5be80f48ecc83056 Subject: Re: New version of iwi(4) - Call for testers X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 03:45:16 -0000 --nextPart2078591.WCWfSKuo4P Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline All, the new version at:=20 http://people.freebsd.org/~mlaier/new_iwi/20060315.both.tgz should build for RELENG_6 and HEAD. Make sure to have the latest RELENG_6= =20 checkout with the taskqueue changes. This version supports version 3.0 and version 2.4 firmware. From iwi_fw yo= u=20 can build and install either version. For 3.0 just #make all install, for= =20 2.4: #make IWI_FW_VERSION=3D240 all install This shouldn't make a differen= ce,=20 though. "cmd 0x19" is WME config, by the way. It seems the firmware doesn't like t= he=20 sequence we setup the card. Please keep testing and post your feedback - thanks. =2D-=20 /"\ Best regards, | mlaier@freebsd.org \ / Max Laier | ICQ #67774661 X http://pf4freebsd.love2party.net/ | mlaier@EFnet / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News --nextPart2078591.WCWfSKuo4P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBEF4z+XyyEoT62BG0RAu7+AKCA/Nh26z3rSfz0t5Y34oBKKEVsqQCfaT78 McHFlhlyDRoT8kKqBg1f4dE= =yyz5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2078591.WCWfSKuo4P-- From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 15 07:07:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16F5716A429 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:07:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfvogel@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9405A43D49 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:07:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jfvogel@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i28so55874wra for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 23:07:33 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=sySKSSJJJNi7bzWH5OtLhdgegPjjBjzHZBX53VBjOA/MBzl7h4lyASzqw9qIlliE0DSYzyBWqMPRVHzCf9xgurOkKHumKbyoeoHVDxNLBFox7OsZoYEKIDWuF278ijxax723vf/GmvauRKrP7vUa76Bbd/MzCLoPjkWn9xybJk4= Received: by 10.35.76.9 with SMTP id d9mr18626pyl; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 23:07:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.28.4 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 23:07:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2a41acea0603142307v78f41d86n7523574e26cd7f5f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 23:07:32 -0800 From: "Jack Vogel" To: Matt In-Reply-To: <002f01c6479a$696d1510$c802a8c0@BLADESNITZ> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <002f01c6479a$696d1510$c802a8c0@BLADESNITZ> Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPMI During Boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:07:34 -0000 On 3/14/06, Matt wrote: > Hello, > > I've tried to be fairly thorough in researching the problem before postin= g > to the list, however, there doesn't seem to be a great multitude of > information out there regarding IPMI configuration on FreeBSD. > > Here's the setup: I have a SuperMicro 6014H-82 Chassis with the > AOC-IPMI20-E > (http://supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-IPMI20-E.cfm). The > motherboard has an Intel adapter that uses the em(4) driver (so it isn't > suppose to suffer the same issues as the bge adapter). I have ensured th= e > MAC address configured for the IPMI matches the MAC address of the networ= k > card itself. I'm using a private network IP (192.168.2.41) on the IPMI c= ard > itself, and I've tried various settings for the adapter in the OS (I've > tried it using the same private IP, and a different private IP). The IPM= I > function itself works great, I can connect and perform the needed tasks, = I > can even use Serial-On-Lan to get into the BIOS, the RAID card setup, as > well as log into the Operating system. I've also configured the boot > settings so that I do get the menu of boot options, and I can see the boo= t > happening. > > However, here's the issue: During booting, when the "em" driver loads, t= he > IPMI function effectively ceases. From the time the em driver is loaded, > until the OS actually configures the network adapter, I do not receive > output to the serial console. If I disconnect the IPMI session, I cannot > reconnect during the time either (IPMI is suppose to connect at all times= , > even when the box is powered off!). If I don't disconnect, eventually, a= ll > the backlog will spew to the screen and I'll be at the login prompt. > However, this poses a problem if I need to use single-user mode or if FSC= K > requires some intervention. Since single-user mode never configures the > network adapter, then it just never comes back. Regarding FSCK, if a box > crashes and goes to FSCK, even if its set to automatically fsck (too scre= wed > up for background fsck or something), I have no way of seeing that, since= it > occurs before the network adapter is configured as well. This kinda defe= ats > the purpose of the IPMI card. > > I'm using the SuperMicro IPMIView program. I have tried both the regular > IPMI firmware that uses a non-standard RMCP protocol, as well as their > "beta" firmware that uses the standard RMCP+ protocol. Using the RMCP+ > firmware enables me to use ipmitool or such from command line, but the sa= me > problem exists. > > I have tried a multitude of things. I've upgraded to the latest stable > version (6-STABLE). Built the latest boot blocks (cd /usr/src/sys/boot &= & > make && make install), installed them (fdisk -B && disklabel -B > /dev/aacd0s1). Below are the various configs and messages I can think of= to > post. The kernel is pretty much GENERIC with maxusers, smp, and quota. > > /boot.config: > -Dh -S19200 > > /boot/loader.conf: > boot_serial=3D"YES" > boot_multicons=3D"YES" > console=3D"comconsole,vidconsole" > comconsole_speed=3D"19200" > > I'm pretty sure the above is overkill. I've tried using just one or the > other or both, and while the console redirection still works, it still > freezes when the em driver loads. > > > One thing to note when look at the dmesg. I do see the dmesg load fast o= n > the SOL up until the em loads, and then it shows this: > > em0: Ethernet address: 00:30:48:2f:51:d2 > > Until the network interface is brought up in the later boot stages, at wh= ich > point it flies through what it missed to the login prompt. Hi Matt, I have zero experience with IPMI on FreeBSD, however I worked on it a fair amount on Linux while at IBM. Off the top of my head I'm wondering if you really should assign the same MAC address to the BMC as the NIC, does something tell you to do this? I was not sure from your description, are you saying that IPMI stops working during boot, but eventually it does work again, or does it only work with the em driver is not loaded? Jack From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 15 08:21:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3A4F16A400 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:21:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from a50.ironport.com (a50.ironport.com [63.251.108.112]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BC5F43D48 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:21:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.2.4]) ([10.251.60.87]) by a50.ironport.com with ESMTP; 15 Mar 2006 00:21:05 -0800 Message-ID: <4417CE70.5070301@elischer.org> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 00:21:04 -0800 From: Julian Elischer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.11) Gecko/20050727 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jack Vogel References: <002f01c6479a$696d1510$c802a8c0@BLADESNITZ> <2a41acea0603142307v78f41d86n7523574e26cd7f5f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2a41acea0603142307v78f41d86n7523574e26cd7f5f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Matt , freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPMI During Boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:21:07 -0000 Jack Vogel wrote: >On 3/14/06, Matt wrote: > > >>Hello, >> >>I've tried to be fairly thorough in researching the problem before posting >>to the list, however, there doesn't seem to be a great multitude of >>information out there regarding IPMI configuration on FreeBSD. >> >>Here's the setup: I have a SuperMicro 6014H-82 Chassis with the >>AOC-IPMI20-E >>(http://supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-IPMI20-E.cfm). The >>motherboard has an Intel adapter that uses the em(4) driver (so it isn't >>suppose to suffer the same issues as the bge adapter). I have ensured the >>MAC address configured for the IPMI matches the MAC address of the network >>card itself. I'm using a private network IP (192.168.2.41) on the IPMI card >>itself, and I've tried various settings for the adapter in the OS (I've >>tried it using the same private IP, and a different private IP). The IPMI >>function itself works great, I can connect and perform the needed tasks, I >>can even use Serial-On-Lan to get into the BIOS, the RAID card setup, as >>well as log into the Operating system. I've also configured the boot >>settings so that I do get the menu of boot options, and I can see the boot >>happening. >> >>However, here's the issue: During booting, when the "em" driver loads, the >>IPMI function effectively ceases. From the time the em driver is loaded, >>until the OS actually configures the network adapter, I do not receive >>output to the serial console. If I disconnect the IPMI session, I cannot >>reconnect during the time either (IPMI is suppose to connect at all times, >>even when the box is powered off!). If I don't disconnect, eventually, all >>the backlog will spew to the screen and I'll be at the login prompt. >>However, this poses a problem if I need to use single-user mode or if FSCK >>requires some intervention. Since single-user mode never configures the >>network adapter, then it just never comes back. Regarding FSCK, if a box >>crashes and goes to FSCK, even if its set to automatically fsck (too screwed >>up for background fsck or something), I have no way of seeing that, since it >>occurs before the network adapter is configured as well. This kinda defeats >>the purpose of the IPMI card. >> >>I'm using the SuperMicro IPMIView program. I have tried both the regular >>IPMI firmware that uses a non-standard RMCP protocol, as well as their >>"beta" firmware that uses the standard RMCP+ protocol. Using the RMCP+ >>firmware enables me to use ipmitool or such from command line, but the same >>problem exists. >> >>I have tried a multitude of things. I've upgraded to the latest stable >>version (6-STABLE). Built the latest boot blocks (cd /usr/src/sys/boot && >>make && make install), installed them (fdisk -B && disklabel -B >>/dev/aacd0s1). Below are the various configs and messages I can think of to >>post. The kernel is pretty much GENERIC with maxusers, smp, and quota. >> >>/boot.config: >>-Dh -S19200 >> >>/boot/loader.conf: >>boot_serial="YES" >>boot_multicons="YES" >>console="comconsole,vidconsole" >>comconsole_speed="19200" >> >>I'm pretty sure the above is overkill. I've tried using just one or the >>other or both, and while the console redirection still works, it still >>freezes when the em driver loads. >> >> >>One thing to note when look at the dmesg. I do see the dmesg load fast on >>the SOL up until the em loads, and then it shows this: >> >>em0: Ethernet address: 00:30:48:2f:51:d2 >> >>Until the network interface is brought up in the later boot stages, at which >>point it flies through what it missed to the login prompt. >> >> > >Hi Matt, > > I have zero experience with IPMI on FreeBSD, however I worked on it >a fair amount on Linux while at IBM. > >Off the top of my head I'm wondering if you really should assign the >same MAC address to the BMC as the NIC, does something tell you >to do this? > >I was not sure from your description, are you saying that IPMI stops >working during boot, but eventually it does work again, or does it >only work with the em driver is not loaded? > > Working with intel (TM) motherboards using the Intel Gb chips, and talking to the intel reps last year (for my previous employer) I was led to believe that these chips supported IPMI by giving the BMC a back door into the same NIC that the OS was using. (using an I2c (SMB) interface) On the machines I used, I am pretty sure the bios gave the same MAC address to the BMC side of things as the OS side of theings by default, and we had is set up so that we used the same IP address also. >Jack >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 15 08:23:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99EE416A434 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:23:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vova@vbook.fbsd.ru) Received: from vbook.fbsd.ru (swsoft-mipt-nat.sw.ru [195.214.233.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA2943D45 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:23:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vova@vbook.fbsd.ru) Received: from vova by vbook.fbsd.ru with local (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1FJRI9-0000hr-El; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:23:37 +0300 From: Vladimir Grebenschikov To: Max Laier In-Reply-To: <200603150441.50904.max@love2party.net> References: <200603052102.24881.max@love2party.net> <20060308201150.GB20475@laverenz.de> <200603150441.50904.max@love2party.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Organization: SWsoft Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:23:35 +0300 Message-Id: <1142411015.1280.20.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Sender: Vladimir Grebenschikov Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New version of iwi(4) - Call for testers X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vova@fbsd.ru List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:23:40 -0000 =F7 =D3=D2, 15/03/2006 =D7 04:41 +0100, Max Laier =D0=C9=DB=C5=D4: > All, >=20 > the new version at:=20 > http://people.freebsd.org/~mlaier/new_iwi/20060315.both.tgz >=20 > should build for RELENG_6 and HEAD. Make sure to have the latest RELENG_= 6=20 > checkout with the taskqueue changes. >=20 > This version supports version 3.0 and version 2.4 firmware. From iwi_fw = you=20 > can build and install either version. For 3.0 just #make all install, fo= r=20 > 2.4: #make IWI_FW_VERSION=3D240 all install This shouldn't make a differ= ence,=20 > though. >=20 > "cmd 0x19" is WME config, by the way. It seems the firmware doesn't like= the=20 > sequence we setup the card. >=20 > Please keep testing and post your feedback - thanks. It works ok for me on 7-CURRENT, except small build problem: /sys/modules/iwi# make Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/src/sys/modules/iw= i @ -> /usr/src/sys machine -> /usr/src/sys/i386/include awk -f @/tools/makeobjops.awk @/kern/device_if.m -h awk -f @/tools/makeobjops.awk @/kern/bus_if.m -h awk -f @/tools/makeobjops.awk @/dev/pci/pci_if.m -h cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Werror -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc = -I- -I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq -finline-limit=3D8000 --param inline-unit-gr= owth=3D100 --param large-function-growth=3D1000 -fno-common -mno-align-lon= g-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=3D2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno= -sse2 -mno-sse3 -ffreestanding -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Ws= trict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual= -fformat-extensions -std=3Dc99 -c /usr/src/sys/modules/iwi/../../dev/iwi/= if_iwi.c In file included from /usr/src/sys/modules/iwi/../../dev/iwi/if_iwi.c:51: @/sys/vnode.h:538:22: vnode_if.h: No such file or directory In file included from /usr/src/sys/modules/iwi/../../dev/iwi/if_iwi.c:51: @/sys/vnode.h:557: warning: "struct vop_lease_args" declared inside paramet= er list @/sys/vnode.h:557: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaratio= n, which is probably not what you want @/sys/vnode.h:574: warning: "struct vop_lease_args" declared inside paramet= er list @/sys/vnode.h:635: warning: "struct vop_lookup_args" declared inside parame= ter list @/sys/vnode.h:639: warning: "struct vop_bmap_args" declared inside paramete= r list @/sys/vnode.h:640: warning: "struct vop_fsync_args" declared inside paramet= er list @/sys/vnode.h:641: warning: "struct vop_getwritemount_args" declared inside= parameter list @/sys/vnode.h:642: warning: "struct vop_getpages_args" declared inside para= meter list @/sys/vnode.h:643: warning: "struct vop_inactive_args" declared inside para= meter list @/sys/vnode.h:644: warning: "struct vop_islocked_args" declared inside para= meter list @/sys/vnode.h:645: warning: "struct vop_kqfilter_args" declared inside para= meter list @/sys/vnode.h:646: warning: "struct vop_lock_args" declared inside paramete= r list @/sys/vnode.h:647: warning: "struct vop_putpages_args" declared inside para= meter list @/sys/vnode.h:648: warning: "struct vop_unlock_args" declared inside parame= ter list @/sys/vnode.h:649: warning: "struct vop_poll_args" declared inside paramete= r list @/sys/vnode.h:650: warning: "struct vop_pathconf_args" declared inside para= meter list @/sys/vnode.h:651: warning: "struct vop_poll_args" declared inside paramete= r list @/sys/vnode.h:727: warning: "struct vop_kqfilter_args" declared inside para= meter list @/sys/vnode.h:730: warning: "struct vop_readdir_args" declared inside param= eter list *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/iwi. # It can be fixed by commenting line if_iwi.c:51 #include --=20 Vladimir B. Grebenschikov vova@fbsd.ru From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 15 08:39:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7397416A401 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:39:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfvogel@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 000C843D46 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:39:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jfvogel@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s1so73867nze for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 00:39:52 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Hl9eQkimw6eola+3yy6zxWx/o+d2WngW5MmencU8tszHHkX8VYqxUu9M5lQU/Pv0+e3/JHIlasHVx3w6sYJSszPbW+wQ4ARmN3pfekEVU+vac2lvLy4JK6aHE5PKVz70UrPBjmrpXNdiGyi0gG7wTAuUFTII+fF+zKgmNCayvPI= Received: by 10.35.96.11 with SMTP id y11mr75182pyl; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 00:39:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.28.4 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 00:39:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2a41acea0603150039q168075eakc034defcdd4d783@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 00:39:52 -0800 From: "Jack Vogel" To: "Julian Elischer" In-Reply-To: <4417CE70.5070301@elischer.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <002f01c6479a$696d1510$c802a8c0@BLADESNITZ> <2a41acea0603142307v78f41d86n7523574e26cd7f5f@mail.gmail.com> <4417CE70.5070301@elischer.org> Cc: Matt , freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPMI During Boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:39:53 -0000 On 3/15/06, Julian Elischer wrote: > > Working with intel (TM) motherboards using the Intel Gb chips, > and talking to the intel reps last year (for my previous employer) I was > led to believe that > these chips supported IPMI by giving the BMC a back door into the same > NIC that the > OS was using. > (using an I2c (SMB) interface) > On the machines I used, I am pretty sure the bios gave the same MAC > address to the BMC > side of things as the OS side of theings by default, and we had is set > up so that we used the > same IP address also. well, i'm not positive about the MAC thing, but I am quite sure that on IBM xSeries systems you assigned a different IP address to the BMC, this was done in the BIOS. And, when I think about that, if it did have a seperate IP address then it musta had a seperate MAC too... Course, that was IBM hardware. I'll have to check up on this more at work tomorrow. So Julian, are you saying that you have seen this kind of functionality work on FreeBSD?? Cheers, Jack From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 15 10:17:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0284F16A424 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:17:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cch@kmu.edu.tw) Received: from cc.kmu.edu.tw (cc.kmu.edu.tw [163.15.154.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E166143D45 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:17:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cch@kmu.edu.tw) Received: from [163.15.154.198] (c198.cc.kmu.edu.tw [163.15.154.198]) by cc.kmu.edu.tw (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k2FAGSvc023190 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 18:16:29 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from cch@kmu.edu.tw) Message-ID: <4417E97D.7050202@kmu.edu.tw> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 18:16:29 +0800 From: Chih-Chang Hsieh User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cc.kmu.edu.tw-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-cc.kmu.edu.tw-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-cc.kmu.edu.tw-MailScanner-From: cch@kmu.edu.tw Subject: if_bridge + polling get lower througphts X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:17:30 -0000 We have a FreeBSD 6.1-PRELEASE box. It runs with 2 em NICs and uses if_bridge + IPFW + ipfilter + pf. This box usually gets a very high interrupt rate >90%. By using netstat -I em0 1, we see: input (em0) output packets errs bytes packets errs bytes colls 15164 0 9549410 16842 0 12132262 0 15331 0 9220723 17466 0 12354486 0 16486 0 10089165 17926 0 13256014 0 14936 10 8363433 17090 0 13367271 0 14712 0 8449705 16701 0 13443079 0 When we enable the polling on em0 and em1 by ifconfig, netstat -I em0 shows: input (em0) output packets errs bytes packets errs bytes colls 10910 0 6629176 11467 0 7681346 0 10951 0 6916042 11397 0 7954205 0 11281 0 7437813 10804 0 7390386 0 10711 0 6308033 11605 0 8400405 0 10807 0 6270716 10973 0 7700748 0 the interrupt rate decreases (<30%) but we get lower throuphts. The related sysctl MIBs are: kern.polling.idlepoll_sleeping: 1 kern.polling.stalled: 0 kern.polling.suspect: 0 kern.polling.phase: 0 kern.polling.enable: 0 kern.polling.handlers: 0 kern.polling.residual_burst: 0 kern.polling.pending_polls: 0 kern.polling.lost_polls: 0 kern.polling.short_ticks: 0 kern.polling.reg_frac: 20 kern.polling.user_frac: 50 kern.polling.idle_poll: 1 kern.polling.each_burst: 5 kern.polling.burst_max: 1000 kern.polling.burst: 5 net.link.bridge.ipfw: 1 net.link.bridge.pfil_member: 1 net.link.bridge.pfil_bridge: 1 net.link.bridge.pfil_onlyip: 0 How could we tune the box to reach higher throughputs as in non-polling mode? Thanks in advance. From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 15 10:44:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: net@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE26D16A401 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:44:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [209.31.154.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5214D43D75 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:44:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [209.31.154.41]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1951746C24 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 05:43:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:45:01 +0000 (GMT) From: Robert Watson X-X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: net@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20060315104419.F5861@fledge.watson.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Subject: netatm: plan for removal unless an active maintainer is found (fwd) X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: arch@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:44:10 -0000 FYI: An e-mail thread relating to the following is taking place on the arch@ mailing list. Please follow up to that list with any comments/discussion. Robert N M Watson ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 01:00:57 +0000 (GMT) From: Robert Watson To: arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: netatm: plan for removal unless an active maintainer is found For some time now, the FreeBSD Project has been carrying around at least three ATM stacks: - netatm - HARP, the Host ATM Research Platform - netnatm - A fairly minimal socket<->virtual circuit ATM wrapper for ATM device drivers - ngatm - NetGraph ATM framework For a variety of reasons, it would be desirable to do a bit of pruning of ATM stacks. In my previous conversations with Harti and Bruce, the conclusion has generally been that ngatm and netnatm provide almost all functionality provided by netatm and more, but in modern, and actively maintained, frameworks. The main motivator for pruning has to do with the SMP network stack work: we're reaching the point, discussed on a number of occasions previously on this mailing list, where jettisoning unmaintained network stack components that are unable to run MPSAFE, is highly desirable. This would allow us to remove compatibility shims that are increasingly burdonsome in terms of performance and complexity. Another aspect of this has to do with upcoming changes to the socket and pcb code, which will require maintainers of protocols to do a small but non-trivial amount of work to update protocols to fit the new socket behavior. Right now, almost all other sections of the network stack have active maintainers who are able to do this work, both development and testing, except for the netatm code. We've reached the point where continuing to carry around a third ATM stack is a significant impediment to continued work on network stack performance and reliability work. This should not be a surprise to anyone who reads this mailing list regularly, since I sent out e-mail on this very topic on July 18, 2005, warning that netatm (and several other components) were at risk as unmaintained but substantial network stack components. The proposal is as follows: In order to begin to merge revised socket/pcb code, required to fix a number of current races manifesting in the TCP code under load, and required for breaking out the tcbinfo lock which is a significant bottleneck in high performance TCP and multi-processor TCP scalability, I will disconnect netatm and dependent components from the build on April 1, 2006. At that point, I will merge updated socket and pcb reference counting. If a maintainer has not been found who can update and adequately test the netatm code for the new socket/pcb interfaces by June 30, 2006, the netatm code will be deleted from CVS HEAD (although remain available in Attic should someone turn up later). I'm happy to provide some first cut patches for any maintainer that arrives that do implement the changes, but I am unable to test them, and suspect they will be significant deficient for this reason, so will not commit them myself. This will leave us with at least two quite functional ATM implementations. Please let me know if netatm is critical to your work and you will be able to work with me to get netatm into shape. For someone already familiar with the netatm implementation and set up to perform ATM network testing, this should be straight forward and I'm happy to help in any way I can. If you are available to act in this role, my recommendation would be that we meet at BSDCan in Ottawa this May to discuss long term maintenance directions, and so that we can work out a plan for handling SMP behavior for netatm, as well as its integration with the socket code. Robert N M Watson _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 15 10:48:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 727FE16A401 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:48:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thompsa@freebsd.org) Received: from dbmail-mx4.orcon.co.nz (loadbalancer-VIP.orcon.net.nz [219.88.242.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFF8C43D66 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:48:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thompsa@freebsd.org) Received: from heff.fud.org.nz (60-234-149-201.bitstream.orcon.net.nz [60.234.149.201]) by dbmail-mx4.orcon.co.nz (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with SMTP id k2FAm0oR010754; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 23:48:01 +1300 Received: by heff.fud.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 70A481CCC2; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 23:48:07 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 23:48:07 +1300 From: Andrew Thompson To: Chih-Chang Hsieh Message-ID: <20060315104807.GA20361@heff.fud.org.nz> References: <4417E97D.7050202@kmu.edu.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4417E97D.7050202@kmu.edu.tw> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88/1333/Wed Mar 15 19:57:53 2006 on dbmail-mx4.orcon.co.nz X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: if_bridge + polling get lower througphts X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:48:36 -0000 On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 06:16:29PM +0800, Chih-Chang Hsieh wrote: > We have a FreeBSD 6.1-PRELEASE box. > > It runs with 2 em NICs and uses if_bridge + IPFW + ipfilter + pf. > > This box usually gets a very high interrupt rate >90%. > > By using netstat -I em0 1, we see: > > input (em0) output > packets errs bytes packets errs bytes colls > 15164 0 9549410 16842 0 12132262 0 > 15331 0 9220723 17466 0 12354486 0 > 16486 0 10089165 17926 0 13256014 0 > 14936 10 8363433 17090 0 13367271 0 > 14712 0 8449705 16701 0 13443079 0 > > > When we enable the polling on em0 and em1 by ifconfig, netstat -I em0 shows: > > input (em0) output > packets errs bytes packets errs bytes colls > 10910 0 6629176 11467 0 7681346 0 > 10951 0 6916042 11397 0 7954205 0 > 11281 0 7437813 10804 0 7390386 0 > 10711 0 6308033 11605 0 8400405 0 > 10807 0 6270716 10973 0 7700748 0 > > the interrupt rate decreases (<30%) but we get lower throuphts. > > net.link.bridge.ipfw: 1 > net.link.bridge.pfil_member: 1 > net.link.bridge.pfil_bridge: 1 > net.link.bridge.pfil_onlyip: 0 > > How could we tune the box to reach higher throughputs In the above setup you are running four packet filters, ipfilter, pf and IPFW twice (ipfw=1 is an extra layer2 run). More specifically the packet filters are actually invoked _10_ times per packet, in_if -> bridge_if -> out_if per pfil_hook, plus the extra ipfw layer2. This explains your high cpu usage, you may want to reorganise the filtering to optimise it. Andrew From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 15 14:55:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D08216A400 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 14:55:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tbyte@otel.net) Received: from mail.otel.net (gw3.OTEL.net [212.36.8.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39CE743D45 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 14:55:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tbyte@otel.net) Received: from dragon.otel.net ([212.36.8.135]) by mail.otel.net with esmtp (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1FJXPY-000L5q-V5; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:55:41 +0200 From: Iasen Kostov To: Chih-Chang Hsieh In-Reply-To: <4417E97D.7050202@kmu.edu.tw> References: <4417E97D.7050202@kmu.edu.tw> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:55:40 +0200 Message-Id: <1142434540.836.4.camel@DraGoN.OTEL.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: if_bridge + polling get lower througphts X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 14:55:44 -0000 On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 18:16 +0800, Chih-Chang Hsieh wrote: > We have a FreeBSD 6.1-PRELEASE box. > > It runs with 2 em NICs and uses if_bridge + IPFW + ipfilter + pf. > > This box usually gets a very high interrupt rate >90%. > > By using netstat -I em0 1, we see: > > input (em0) output > packets errs bytes packets errs bytes colls > 15164 0 9549410 16842 0 12132262 0 > 15331 0 9220723 17466 0 12354486 0 > 16486 0 10089165 17926 0 13256014 0 > 14936 10 8363433 17090 0 13367271 0 > 14712 0 8449705 16701 0 13443079 0 > > > When we enable the polling on em0 and em1 by ifconfig, netstat -I em0 shows: > > input (em0) output > packets errs bytes packets errs bytes colls > 10910 0 6629176 11467 0 7681346 0 > 10951 0 6916042 11397 0 7954205 0 > 11281 0 7437813 10804 0 7390386 0 > 10711 0 6308033 11605 0 8400405 0 > 10807 0 6270716 10973 0 7700748 0 > > the interrupt rate decreases (<30%) but we get lower throuphts. > > The related sysctl MIBs are: > > kern.polling.idlepoll_sleeping: 1 > kern.polling.stalled: 0 > kern.polling.suspect: 0 > kern.polling.phase: 0 > kern.polling.enable: 0 > kern.polling.handlers: 0 > kern.polling.residual_burst: 0 > kern.polling.pending_polls: 0 > kern.polling.lost_polls: 0 > kern.polling.short_ticks: 0 > kern.polling.reg_frac: 20 > kern.polling.user_frac: 50 > kern.polling.idle_poll: 1 > kern.polling.each_burst: 5 > kern.polling.burst_max: 1000 > kern.polling.burst: 5 > > net.link.bridge.ipfw: 1 > net.link.bridge.pfil_member: 1 > net.link.bridge.pfil_bridge: 1 > net.link.bridge.pfil_onlyip: 0 > > How could we tune the box to reach higher throughputs > > as in non-polling mode? > What is your kern.clockrate hz (sysctl kern.clockrate) ? Probably it's to low for network card to handle the packets and that lowers tha data rate. From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 15 15:13:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A3E616A422 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:13:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from satyam@sklinks.com) Received: from smtp101.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp101.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 68A5443D6E for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:13:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from satyam@sklinks.com) Received: (qmail 47285 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2006 15:13:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO akasha.akasha) (varuna@sbcglobal.net@69.106.233.173 with plain) by smtp101.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Mar 2006 15:13:15 -0000 From: Joseph Vella To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:12:32 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <200603052102.24881.max@love2party.net> In-Reply-To: <200603052102.24881.max@love2party.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200603150712.32783.satyam@sklinks.com> Cc: Max Laier Subject: Re: New version of iwi(4) - Call for testers X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:13:20 -0000 On Sunday 05 March 2006 12:02, Max Laier wrote: > All, > > there have been a lot of problem reports with iwi(4) lately. Can everybody > who does have problems with it please take a look at: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~mlaier/new_iwi/ > > There is a new version of the driver (converted to use firmware(9)). It > includes some fundamental changes that greatly help stability and > performance. There are, however, still some instabilities with it. > > I'd appreciate if you could give it a try and report back. If it breaks > (device timeout, connection stall, etc. ...) you could help us a great deal > if you set "sysctl debug.iwi=3" and include the console output at the time of > the failure. If you don't see something interesting there, you might want to > increase debug.iwi even further, but that will be *very* chatty. > > Thanks in advance. > > -- How do you tell which firmware you have? (just to double check, this would be for my Intel 2915 right?) From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 15 15:16:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F3B16A41F for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:16:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Received: from ebb.errno.com (ebb.errno.com [69.12.149.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 615EF43D48 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:16:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Received: from [10.0.0.187] ([10.0.0.187]) (authenticated bits=0) by ebb.errno.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k2FFGKo7012141 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:16:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Message-ID: <44182FC4.7050200@errno.com> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:16:20 -0800 From: Sam Leffler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joseph Vella References: <200603052102.24881.max@love2party.net> <200603150712.32783.satyam@sklinks.com> In-Reply-To: <200603150712.32783.satyam@sklinks.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, Max Laier Subject: Re: New version of iwi(4) - Call for testers X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:16:21 -0000 Joseph Vella wrote: > On Sunday 05 March 2006 12:02, Max Laier wrote: >> All, >> >> there have been a lot of problem reports with iwi(4) lately. Can everybody >> who does have problems with it please take a look at: >> >> http://people.freebsd.org/~mlaier/new_iwi/ >> >> There is a new version of the driver (converted to use firmware(9)). It >> includes some fundamental changes that greatly help stability and >> performance. There are, however, still some instabilities with it. >> >> I'd appreciate if you could give it a try and report back. If it breaks >> (device timeout, connection stall, etc. ...) you could help us a great deal >> if you set "sysctl debug.iwi=3" and include the console output at the time > of >> the failure. If you don't see something interesting there, you might want > to >> increase debug.iwi even further, but that will be *very* chatty. >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> -- > > How do you tell which firmware you have? > (just to double check, this would be for my Intel 2915 right?) > There is no tool presently to dump the firmware rev. The driver will reject any unsuitable firwmare image it can detect. Yes it will work on a 2915. Sam From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 15 15:40:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08CBA16A422 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:40:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oxy@field.hu) Received: from green.field.hu (green.field.hu [217.20.130.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D79E43D49 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:40:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oxy@field.hu) Received: from localhost (green.field.hu [217.20.130.28]) by green.field.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB6B119D4C for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:40:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from green.field.hu ([217.20.130.28]) by localhost (green.field.hu [217.20.130.28]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25197-10 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:40:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from oxy (dsl217-197-187-71.pool.tvnet.hu [217.197.187.71]) by green.field.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5133119CC4 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:40:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <000f01c64846$c7148840$0201a8c0@oxy> From: "OxY" To: References: <001101c64754$cbbd65d0$0201a8c0@oxy> <20060315001806.GA52826@cdnetworks.co.kr> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:40:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-Virus-Scanned: by Amavisd-new (Spamassassin+Razor2+Pyzor+DCC+Bayes db, Clamd Antivirus) at field.hu Subject: Re: problem with Marwell gigabit performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:40:26 -0000 with the modified sk(4) driver i got the following: sk0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 options=2b the performance didn't changed, packet drops as usual... when the system is 100% idle, packet drop is around 1%, when i got ~0.80 load on the other (fxp0) interface, packet drop is 8-11% may i change the card to intel or 3com, or what to do? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pyun YongHyeon" To: "OxY" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 1:18 AM Subject: Re: problem with Marwell gigabit performance > On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 11:48:14AM +0100, OxY wrote: > > hi! > > > > i have a Marwell (SMC) gigabit ethernet card (sk0) and > > have serious problems with performance.. > > the machine is a pc, amd 2000+ xp, 512mb ram. > > > > tested with iperf (bidirectional test, udp transfer, not stream) > > and got 8-15% packet drop when the system was idle. > > > > There is a modified sk(4) driver at > http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/sk/sk_test/if_sk.c > http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/sk/sk_test/if_skreg.h > > Would you please give it try? > I can't sure but you would get better results as the new driver > uses one lock for standard MTU size and supports Tx TCP checksum > offload and Rx IP checksum offload. > I could push 32bit PCI NIC(DGE-530T) to the PCI bus limit on sparc64. > > > then tuned the sysctl with these settings: > > > > kern.ipc.maxsockbuf=81920000 > > kern.ipc.nmbclusters=5000000000 > > kern.ipc.somaxconn=8192 > > net.inet.tcp.inflight.enable=1 > > net.inet.raw.recvspace=4096 > > net.inet.tcp.recvspace=131072 > > kern.ipc.shmmax=409600000 > > > > with these i got around 3-7% packet drop, > > but it's very high compared to zero :) > > > > my question is where/what should i optimize to not > > have packet drop at all, or at least reduce it as much as > > possible. > > > > thanks for your help! > > > > Csaba Banhalmi, HU > -- > Regards, > Pyun YongHyeon From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 15 15:50:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60D6416A420 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:50:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oxy@field.hu) Received: from green.field.hu (green.field.hu [217.20.130.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA85243D5D for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:50:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oxy@field.hu) Received: from localhost (green.field.hu [217.20.130.28]) by green.field.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 831C9119D4C; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:50:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from green.field.hu ([217.20.130.28]) by localhost (green.field.hu [217.20.130.28]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28166-07; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:50:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from oxy (dsl217-197-187-71.pool.tvnet.hu [217.197.187.71]) by green.field.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B1C2119CC4; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:50:46 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <000a01c64848$41d6f710$0201a8c0@oxy> From: "OxY" To: , References: <001101c64754$cbbd65d0$0201a8c0@oxy><20060315001806.GA52826@cdnetworks.co.kr> <000f01c64846$c7148840$0201a8c0@oxy> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:51:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-Virus-Scanned: by Amavisd-new (Spamassassin+Razor2+Pyzor+DCC+Bayes db, Clamd Antivirus) at field.hu Cc: Subject: Re: problem with Marwell gigabit performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:50:57 -0000 i forgot to mention the load is twice, than before and the transfer is speed is decreased from 20mbyte/s to 9mbyte/s ----- Original Message ----- From: "OxY" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 4:40 PM Subject: Re: problem with Marwell gigabit performance > with the modified sk(4) driver i got the following: > > sk0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > options=2b > > the performance didn't changed, packet drops as usual... > when the system is 100% idle, packet drop is around 1%, > when i got ~0.80 load on the other (fxp0) interface, packet drop is 8-11% > may i change the card to intel or 3com, or what to do? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pyun YongHyeon" > To: "OxY" > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 1:18 AM > Subject: Re: problem with Marwell gigabit performance > > >> On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 11:48:14AM +0100, OxY wrote: >> > hi! >> > >> > i have a Marwell (SMC) gigabit ethernet card (sk0) and have serious >> > problems with performance.. >> > the machine is a pc, amd 2000+ xp, 512mb ram. >> > >> > tested with iperf (bidirectional test, udp transfer, not stream) >> > and got 8-15% packet drop when the system was idle. >> > >> >> There is a modified sk(4) driver at >> http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/sk/sk_test/if_sk.c >> http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/sk/sk_test/if_skreg.h >> >> Would you please give it try? >> I can't sure but you would get better results as the new driver >> uses one lock for standard MTU size and supports Tx TCP checksum >> offload and Rx IP checksum offload. >> I could push 32bit PCI NIC(DGE-530T) to the PCI bus limit on sparc64. >> >> > then tuned the sysctl with these settings: >> > >> > kern.ipc.maxsockbuf=81920000 >> > kern.ipc.nmbclusters=5000000000 >> > kern.ipc.somaxconn=8192 >> > net.inet.tcp.inflight.enable=1 >> > net.inet.raw.recvspace=4096 >> > net.inet.tcp.recvspace=131072 >> > kern.ipc.shmmax=409600000 >> > >> > with these i got around 3-7% packet drop, >> > but it's very high compared to zero :) >> > >> > my question is where/what should i optimize to not >> > have packet drop at all, or at least reduce it as much as >> > possible. >> > >> > thanks for your help! >> > >> > Csaba Banhalmi, HU >> -- >> Regards, >> Pyun YongHyeon > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 15 19:07:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF9C116A401 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 19:07:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfvogel@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76AF443D4C for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 19:07:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jfvogel@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id l8so206217nzf for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:07:37 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=IOzyM5tAHY0SKVcos+qtsP1yklR+WmKVUJhIsp+XphV5hwcQtC6MHptpKXRWheRm/wOSxYoYJr20FKH7i2o+LuZUXsRZcnXM7IY8TuNEFCMlZxiEKVpeJAL+J+uvan+PIBNnVtP/bG3xPcfiCUYjZsXLudCiMwXQBu8zkdpZUjM= Received: by 10.35.113.12 with SMTP id q12mr904705pym; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:00:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.28.4 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:00:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2a41acea0603151100s45dae1b0mcd9281ff2fe32402@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:00:49 -0800 From: "Jack Vogel" To: "Julian Elischer" In-Reply-To: <2a41acea0603150039q168075eakc034defcdd4d783@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <002f01c6479a$696d1510$c802a8c0@BLADESNITZ> <2a41acea0603142307v78f41d86n7523574e26cd7f5f@mail.gmail.com> <4417CE70.5070301@elischer.org> <2a41acea0603150039q168075eakc034defcdd4d783@mail.gmail.com> Cc: Matt , freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPMI During Boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 19:07:39 -0000 On 3/15/06, Jack Vogel wrote: > On 3/15/06, Julian Elischer wrote: > > > > Working with intel (TM) motherboards using the Intel Gb chips, > > and talking to the intel reps last year (for my previous employer) I wa= s > > led to believe that > > these chips supported IPMI by giving the BMC a back door into the same > > NIC that the > > OS was using. > > (using an I2c (SMB) interface) > > On the machines I used, I am pretty sure the bios gave the same MAC > > address to the BMC > > side of things as the OS side of theings by default, and we had is set > > up so that we used the > > same IP address also. > > well, i'm not positive about the MAC thing, but I am quite sure that on > IBM xSeries systems you assigned a different IP address to the BMC, > this was done in the BIOS. And, when I think about that, if it did have > a seperate IP address then it musta had a seperate MAC too... > > Course, that was IBM hardware. I'll have to check up on this more > at work tomorrow. > > So Julian, are you saying that you have seen this kind of functionality > work on FreeBSD?? Hmm, well I've been told that using the same IP address or not should both work :) Matt, can you do a pciconf listing for me, I'd like to see exactly what MAC you have. The most recent systems that are AMT capable need some special code in the driver that FreeBSD doesnt yet have. I'm wondering if that might be whats happening here. Jack From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 15 19:29:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60DD816A401 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 19:29:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from a50.ironport.com (a50.ironport.com [63.251.108.112]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4EC843D58 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 19:29:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from unknown (HELO [10.251.17.229]) ([10.251.17.229]) by a50.ironport.com with ESMTP; 15 Mar 2006 11:29:13 -0800 Message-ID: <44186B09.8010504@elischer.org> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:29:13 -0800 From: Julian Elischer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.11) Gecko/20050727 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jack Vogel References: <002f01c6479a$696d1510$c802a8c0@BLADESNITZ> <2a41acea0603142307v78f41d86n7523574e26cd7f5f@mail.gmail.com> <4417CE70.5070301@elischer.org> <2a41acea0603150039q168075eakc034defcdd4d783@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2a41acea0603150039q168075eakc034defcdd4d783@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Matt , freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPMI During Boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 19:29:15 -0000 Jack Vogel wrote: >On 3/15/06, Julian Elischer wrote: > > >>Working with intel (TM) motherboards using the Intel Gb chips, >>and talking to the intel reps last year (for my previous employer) I was >>led to believe that >>these chips supported IPMI by giving the BMC a back door into the same >>NIC that the >>OS was using. >>(using an I2c (SMB) interface) >>On the machines I used, I am pretty sure the bios gave the same MAC >>address to the BMC >>side of things as the OS side of theings by default, and we had is set >>up so that we used the >>same IP address also. >> >> > >well, i'm not positive about the MAC thing, but I am quite sure that on >IBM xSeries systems you assigned a different IP address to the BMC, >this was done in the BIOS. And, when I think about that, if it did have >a seperate IP address then it musta had a seperate MAC too... > >Course, that was IBM hardware. I'll have to check up on this more >at work tomorrow. > >So Julian, are you saying that you have seen this kind of functionality >work on FreeBSD?? > > yes, though as I said, I'd have to break intop my old emplyer's custommer's premmisses to absolutly confirm that they has teh same MAC address.. :-) It's my memory though that they did.. they definitly has the same IP address. and yes, it did work. the OS got a copy of incoming packets for the BMC but a firewall rule fixed that quick enough. >Cheers, > >Jack > > From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 15 20:57:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D0A16A429 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:57:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oxy@field.hu) Received: from green.field.hu (green.field.hu [217.20.130.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB92743D5E for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:57:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oxy@field.hu) Received: from localhost (green.field.hu [217.20.130.28]) by green.field.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C205119CD0; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:57:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from green.field.hu ([217.20.130.28]) by localhost (green.field.hu [217.20.130.28]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 52744-05; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:57:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from oxy (dsl217-197-187-71.pool.tvnet.hu [217.197.187.71]) by green.field.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06A11119CC4; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:57:12 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <000401c64873$0f4273d0$0201a8c0@oxy> From: "OxY" To: , References: <001101c64754$cbbd65d0$0201a8c0@oxy><20060315001806.GA52826@cdnetworks.co.kr><000f01c64846$c7148840$0201a8c0@oxy> <000a01c64848$41d6f710$0201a8c0@oxy> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:57:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-Virus-Scanned: by Amavisd-new (Spamassassin+Razor2+Pyzor+DCC+Bayes db, Clamd Antivirus) at field.hu Cc: Subject: Re: problem with Marwell gigabit performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:57:41 -0000 after further testing and transferred for a couple hours i realized that the performance is ok, not changed dramatically (the server was slow when i measured 9mb/s..) but the load! when i used ftp before the load increased to ~2.0, but now it's 4.5! changed back to the original driver and got 2.0 again.. would you guys give me an advice what to buy? 3com or intel? (i heard em(4) driver is not too good..) thx! ----- Original Message ----- From: "OxY" To: ; Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 4:51 PM Subject: Re: problem with Marwell gigabit performance >i forgot to mention the load is twice, than before and the transfer is >speed is > decreased from 20mbyte/s to 9mbyte/s > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "OxY" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 4:40 PM > Subject: Re: problem with Marwell gigabit performance > > >> with the modified sk(4) driver i got the following: >> >> sk0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 >> options=2b >> >> the performance didn't changed, packet drops as usual... >> when the system is 100% idle, packet drop is around 1%, >> when i got ~0.80 load on the other (fxp0) interface, packet drop is 8-11% >> may i change the card to intel or 3com, or what to do? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Pyun YongHyeon" >> To: "OxY" >> Cc: >> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 1:18 AM >> Subject: Re: problem with Marwell gigabit performance >> >> >>> On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 11:48:14AM +0100, OxY wrote: >>> > hi! >>> > >>> > i have a Marwell (SMC) gigabit ethernet card (sk0) and have serious >>> > problems with performance.. >>> > the machine is a pc, amd 2000+ xp, 512mb ram. >>> > >>> > tested with iperf (bidirectional test, udp transfer, not stream) >>> > and got 8-15% packet drop when the system was idle. >>> > >>> >>> There is a modified sk(4) driver at >>> http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/sk/sk_test/if_sk.c >>> http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/sk/sk_test/if_skreg.h >>> >>> Would you please give it try? >>> I can't sure but you would get better results as the new driver >>> uses one lock for standard MTU size and supports Tx TCP checksum >>> offload and Rx IP checksum offload. >>> I could push 32bit PCI NIC(DGE-530T) to the PCI bus limit on sparc64. >>> >>> > then tuned the sysctl with these settings: >>> > >>> > kern.ipc.maxsockbuf=81920000 >>> > kern.ipc.nmbclusters=5000000000 >>> > kern.ipc.somaxconn=8192 >>> > net.inet.tcp.inflight.enable=1 >>> > net.inet.raw.recvspace=4096 >>> > net.inet.tcp.recvspace=131072 >>> > kern.ipc.shmmax=409600000 >>> > >>> > with these i got around 3-7% packet drop, >>> > but it's very high compared to zero :) >>> > >>> > my question is where/what should i optimize to not >>> > have packet drop at all, or at least reduce it as much as >>> > possible. >>> > >>> > thanks for your help! >>> > >>> > Csaba Banhalmi, HU >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> Pyun YongHyeon >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 15 21:12:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE92716A438 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:12:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from testing@itg-adrian-mac.unl.edu) Received: from itg-adrian-mac.unl.edu (itg-adrian-mac.unl.edu [129.93.140.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9783943D45 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:12:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from testing@itg-adrian-mac.unl.edu) Received: by itg-adrian-mac.unl.edu (Postfix, from userid 1013534267) id 1C2998DC26; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:10:54 -0600 (CST) To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org From: postcard.com Message-Id: <20060315211054.1C2998DC26@itg-adrian-mac.unl.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:10:54 -0600 (CST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: You have received a postcard ! 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[fdic.gif] [houselender.gif] References 1. http://82.182.35.94/~bnc/login.chase.com/index.html From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 00:31:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26CB116A401 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 00:31:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael@staff.openaccess.org) Received: from smtp.openaccess.org (smtp.openaccess.org [66.165.52.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E013A43D45 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 00:31:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from michael@staff.openaccess.org) Received: from [10.0.1.6] (unknown [216.57.214.93]) by smtp.openaccess.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75B326D47BB for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:31:41 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: "freebsd-net@FreeBSD.org" From: Michael DeMan Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:31:51 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Subject: OT - Quagga/CARP X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 00:31:42 -0000 Hi, I haven't been able to make headway on the Quagga lists, and I seem to recall somewhere a few months ago googling that my problem was some kind of know FreeBSD issue. Googling (and other sources) the last week hasn't helped. In essence, I am wondering if anybody on the FreeBSD side of things knows about my problem or a workaround. We use CARP and HSRP at various locations. On FreeBSD 5.4 with Quagga 0.99, if there is already a route say to 10.0.0.0/8, I can not do in Quagga: ip address 10.0.0.X/8 % Can't set interface IP address: File exists. I can do 10.0.0.X/16 or 10.0.0.X/4, but not the same identical subnet. I am unclear if this is a FreeBSD centric issue with Quagga or a general Quagga problem and the lists there have not been helpful. Sorry for the cross-post, but I badly need this working before rolling out piles of equipment this summer and am getting desperate. EXAMPLE: # sh ip route O>* 10.197.66.96/27 [110/20] via 216.57.215.249, wi0, 00:57:21 * via 216.57.214.33, wi1, 00:57:21 mfd(config)# int vlan59 mfd(config-if)# ip address 10.197.66.97/27 % Can't set interface IP address: File exists. mfd(config-if)# From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 00:37:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F26516A401 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 00:37:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pyunyh@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8800B43D4C for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 00:37:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pyunyh@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 8so240981nzo for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:37:00 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=EG12GPIXpKThX+JqlXUhhxQiKLmANCrZoPgkYVnjo2nQQAdbyDFa2OeFtWeMCDkSy7Y8wp4IKWEqVf2Kdy4fg3n1AUtlnnkxw5yMJW1M34SWboet7SoeKYk29iXaRHQe61RMWcwqqTiu46rg/Fjdo/GxFEq/uOaJ7vh+q9p+k5A= Received: by 10.36.227.48 with SMTP id z48mr1637426nzg; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:37:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from michelle.cdnetworks.co.kr ( [211.53.35.84]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 7sm1743331nzn.2006.03.15.16.36.59; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:37:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from michelle.cdnetworks.co.kr (localhost.cdnetworks.co.kr [127.0.0.1]) by michelle.cdnetworks.co.kr (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k2G0dQfq057128 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:39:26 +0900 (KST) (envelope-from pyunyh@gmail.com) Received: (from yongari@localhost) by michelle.cdnetworks.co.kr (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k2G0dOdr057127; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:39:24 +0900 (KST) (envelope-from pyunyh@gmail.com) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:39:24 +0900 From: Pyun YongHyeon To: OxY Message-ID: <20060316003924.GB56829@cdnetworks.co.kr> References: <000a01c64848$41d6f710$0201a8c0@oxy> <000401c64873$0f4273d0$0201a8c0@oxy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000401c64873$0f4273d0$0201a8c0@oxy> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with Marwell gigabit performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: pyunyh@gmail.com List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 00:37:02 -0000 On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 09:57:23PM +0100, OxY wrote: > after further testing and transferred for a couple hours i realized that > the performance is ok, not changed dramatically > (the server was slow when i measured 9mb/s..) > but the load! > when i used ftp before the load increased to ~2.0, but > now it's 4.5! changed back to the original driver and got 2.0 again.. > would you guys give me an advice what to buy? 3com or intel? > (i heard em(4) driver is not too good..) > thx! > I think you may not get correct test result when other system activity such as disk I/Os is in progress. Just stick to check pure network performance. For ftp, you can request "/dev/zero" from ftp server and save it as "/dev/null" on client in order to avoid disk I/Os. Also check the following URL. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/testing.html -- Regards, Pyun YongHyeon From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 01:40:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD25316A401 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 01:40:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cch@kmu.edu.tw) Received: from cc.kmu.edu.tw (cc.kmu.edu.tw [163.15.154.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37A3043D48 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 01:40:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cch@kmu.edu.tw) Received: from [163.15.154.198] (c198.cc.kmu.edu.tw [163.15.154.198]) by cc.kmu.edu.tw (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k2G1e3a8077901; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:40:03 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from cch@kmu.edu.tw) Message-ID: <4418C1EC.2030500@kmu.edu.tw> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:39:56 +0800 From: Chih-Chang Hsieh User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org References: <4417E97D.7050202@kmu.edu.tw> <20060315104807.GA20361@heff.fud.org.nz> In-Reply-To: <20060315104807.GA20361@heff.fud.org.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cc.kmu.edu.tw-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-cc.kmu.edu.tw-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-cc.kmu.edu.tw-MailScanner-From: cch@kmu.edu.tw Subject: Re: if_bridge + polling get lower througphts X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 01:40:30 -0000 Thanks a lot. We reset following MIBs: net.link.bridge.ipfw=0 net.link.bridge.pfil_member=0 net.link.bridge.pfil_bridge=0 For non-polling mode, the interrupt rate is down to 30%, For polling mode, the throughputs are as well as non-polling one and the interrupt rate is less than 10%. Andrew Thompson wrote: > On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 06:16:29PM +0800, Chih-Chang Hsieh wrote: > >> We have a FreeBSD 6.1-PRELEASE box. >> >> It runs with 2 em NICs and uses if_bridge + IPFW + ipfilter + pf. >> >> This box usually gets a very high interrupt rate >90%. >> >> By using netstat -I em0 1, we see: >> >> input (em0) output >> packets errs bytes packets errs bytes colls >> 15164 0 9549410 16842 0 12132262 0 >> 15331 0 9220723 17466 0 12354486 0 >> 16486 0 10089165 17926 0 13256014 0 >> 14936 10 8363433 17090 0 13367271 0 >> 14712 0 8449705 16701 0 13443079 0 >> >> >> When we enable the polling on em0 and em1 by ifconfig, netstat -I em0 shows: >> >> input (em0) output >> packets errs bytes packets errs bytes colls >> 10910 0 6629176 11467 0 7681346 0 >> 10951 0 6916042 11397 0 7954205 0 >> 11281 0 7437813 10804 0 7390386 0 >> 10711 0 6308033 11605 0 8400405 0 >> 10807 0 6270716 10973 0 7700748 0 >> >> the interrupt rate decreases (<30%) but we get lower throuphts. >> >> net.link.bridge.ipfw: 1 >> net.link.bridge.pfil_member: 1 >> net.link.bridge.pfil_bridge: 1 >> net.link.bridge.pfil_onlyip: 0 >> >> How could we tune the box to reach higher throughputs >> > > In the above setup you are running four packet filters, ipfilter, pf and > IPFW twice (ipfw=1 is an extra layer2 run). More specifically the packet filters > are actually invoked _10_ times per packet, in_if -> bridge_if -> out_if > per pfil_hook, plus the extra ipfw layer2. > > This explains your high cpu usage, you may want to reorganise the > filtering to optimise it. > > > Andrew > > From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 01:45:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6107916A479 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 01:45:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guest@gateway.abccustom.com.controlledcontent.com) Received: from gateway.abccustom.com.controlledcontent.com (adsl-66-136-104-121.dsl.hrlntx.swbell.net [66.136.104.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7507243D67 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 01:45:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from guest@gateway.abccustom.com.controlledcontent.com) Received: from gateway.abccustom.com.controlledcontent.com (adsl-66-136-104-121.dsl.hrlntx.swbell.net [66.136.104.121]) by gateway.abccustom.com.controlledcontent.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k2G1gaip057617 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 19:42:36 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from guest@gateway.abccustom.com.controlledcontent.com) Received: (from guest@localhost) by gateway.abccustom.com.controlledcontent.com (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id k2G1gaxo057616; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 19:42:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 19:42:36 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200603160142.k2G1gaxo057616@gateway.abccustom.com.controlledcontent.com> To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org From: Chase Online Banking MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: New message from Chase Bank X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 01:45:43 -0000 [chase_logo.gif] Chase Bank valued costumer, Due to concerns, for the safety and integrity of the online banking community we have issued this warning message. 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[fdic.gif] [houselender.gif] References 1. http://82.182.35.94/~bnc/login.chase.com/index.html From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 07:14:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B0B16A401 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:14:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oxy@field.hu) Received: from green.field.hu (green.field.hu [217.20.130.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 072E043D45 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:14:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oxy@field.hu) Received: from localhost (green.field.hu [217.20.130.28]) by green.field.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5E34119CD0; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:14:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from green.field.hu ([217.20.130.28]) by localhost (green.field.hu [217.20.130.28]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 77842-03; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:14:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from oxy (dsl217-197-187-71.pool.tvnet.hu [217.197.187.71]) by green.field.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E96D119CA5; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:14:17 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <000601c648c9$459ef6f0$0201a8c0@oxy> From: "OxY" To: References: <000a01c64848$41d6f710$0201a8c0@oxy> <000401c64873$0f4273d0$0201a8c0@oxy> <20060316003924.GB56829@cdnetworks.co.kr> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:14:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-Virus-Scanned: by Amavisd-new (Spamassassin+Razor2+Pyzor+DCC+Bayes db, Clamd Antivirus) at field.hu Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with Marwell gigabit performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:14:34 -0000 iperf is an authentic benchmark, it says 6945/163914 (4.2%) packet loss, when transfering 200MB data, the system is 80% idle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pyun YongHyeon" To: "OxY" Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 1:39 AM Subject: Re: problem with Marwell gigabit performance > On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 09:57:23PM +0100, OxY wrote: > > after further testing and transferred for a couple hours i realized that > > the performance is ok, not changed dramatically > > (the server was slow when i measured 9mb/s..) > > but the load! > > when i used ftp before the load increased to ~2.0, but > > now it's 4.5! changed back to the original driver and got 2.0 again.. > > would you guys give me an advice what to buy? 3com or intel? > > (i heard em(4) driver is not too good..) > > thx! > > > > I think you may not get correct test result when other system activity > such as disk I/Os is in progress. Just stick to check pure network > performance. 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A quarter of an hour later, to the astonishment of the people in = the restaurant, on the boulevard and at the windows of the surrounding = houses, the barman, the porter, a policeman, a waiter and the poet Ryukhin = were to be seen emerging from the gates of Griboyedov dragging a young man = trussed up like a mummy, who was weeping, spitting, lashing out at Ryukhin = and shouting for the whole street to hear : 'You swine! . . . You swine! . . . ' A buzzing crowd collected, discussing the incredible scene. It = was of course an abominable, disgusting, thrilling, revolting scandal which = only ended when a lorry drove away from the gates of Griboyedov carrying = the unfortunate Ivan Nikolayich, the policeman, the barman and Ryukhin. At half past one in the morning a man with a pointed beard and wearing a white overall entered the reception hall of a famous psychiatric = clinic recently completed in the suburbs of Moscow. Three orderlies and the = poet Ryukhin stood nervously watching Ivan Nikolayich as he sat on a divan. = The dish-cloths that had been used to pinion Ivan Nikolayich now lay in a = heap q stj ttunrstnu s u k ujuft fufqquo tk uu sdjksdfsdfsdlgkj sdflkjsdf lksdjfsdfsdf ------=_NextPart_000_0DE1_2567A893.4BCF0DE1-- From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 07:29:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5599B16A400 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:29:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from matrix.teledomenet.gr (dns1.teledomenet.gr [213.142.128.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B287A43D46 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:29:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from iris ([192.168.1.71]) by matrix.teledomenet.gr (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k2G7Tluq016429; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:29:47 +0200 From: Nikos Vassiliadis To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:24:44 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200603160924.45055.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Cc: Subject: Re: OT - Quagga/CARP X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:29:51 -0000 On Thursday 16 March 2006 02:31, Michael DeMan wrote: > Hi, > > I haven't been able to make headway on the Quagga lists, and I seem > to recall somewhere a few months ago googling that my problem was > some kind of know FreeBSD issue. Googling (and other sources) the > last week hasn't helped. > > In essence, I am wondering if anybody on the FreeBSD side of things > knows about my problem or a workaround. > > We use CARP and HSRP at various locations. > > On FreeBSD 5.4 with Quagga 0.99, if there is already a route say to > 10.0.0.0/8, I can not do in Quagga: > > ip address 10.0.0.X/8 > > % Can't set interface IP address: File exists. > > I can do 10.0.0.X/16 or 10.0.0.X/4, but not the same identical subnet. > > I am unclear if this is a FreeBSD centric issue with Quagga or a > general Quagga problem and the lists there have not been helpful. > > Sorry for the cross-post, but I badly need this working before > rolling out piles of equipment this summer and am getting desperate. > > > > EXAMPLE: > > # sh ip route > O>* 10.197.66.96/27 [110/20] via 216.57.215.249, wi0, 00:57:21 > * via 216.57.214.33, wi1, 00:57:21 > > mfd(config)# int vlan59 > mfd(config-if)# ip address 10.197.66.97/27 > % Can't set interface IP address: File exists. > mfd(config-if)# It's FreeBSD's behavior root@freetest# route add 10.0.0.0/30 192.168.1.1 add net 10.0.0.0: gateway 192.168.1.1 root@freetest# ifconfig vlan100 10.0.0.1/30 ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 07:55:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B67316A492 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:55:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from siri@travelmore.com) Received: from travelmore.com (210-55-161-107.dialup.xtra.co.nz [210.55.161.107]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 061F043D46 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:55:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from 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Po voppocu otpicki otppavte nam puctoe pic'mo po adpecu: [1]otpicat'cya References 1. mailto:otkaz@ua.fm?subject=otkaz From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 09:28:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0717D16A400 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:28:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuanjob140230@sn.tpemail.net.tw) Received: from sn.tpemail.net.tw (w1.sn.tpemail.net.tw [192.72.80.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9E943D4C for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:28:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yuanjob140230@sn.tpemail.net.tw) Received: from yuanjob140230@sn.tpemail.net.tw by sn.tpemail.net.tw with local (Seednet Mail Server v2.313b) id 1FJomf-0007K5-00; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:28:41 +0800 From: yuanjob140230@sn.tpemail.net.tw To: net@freebsd.org, proetna@tpts6.seed.net.tw, tonyymlin@yahoo.com.tw, yu_sj@micon-tech.com.tw, 86320052@hinet.net 86320052@hinet.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Seednet WebMail 1.5 Sender: yuanjob140230@sn.tpemail.net.tw X-Connecting-IP: 220.136.166.235 X-Originating-IP: X-Webmail-Company: Seednet Free WebMail http://webmail.seed.net.tw Message-Id: Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:28:41 +0800 Cc: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?2843=AAB=A4=CD=B3o=ACO=A7=DA=AA=BA=B3=A1=B8=A8=AE?= =?iso-8859-1?q?=E6?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuanjob140230@sn.tpemail.net.tw List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:28:45 -0000 0316172843webseedsig ºô¸ôÁͶդw¨ÓÁ{ ¤£­n¦AÅı±zªº¹q¸£¨IºÎ¡I ¤W¯ZÁ~¤ô¦³­­¡A¦ıºô¸ô°Ó¾÷¬OµL­­! ­YµLªkÁpµ²½Ğ½Æ»s¦¹ºô§} http://53.dance.to/ ³sµ²«á·|¦³©µ¿ğ½Ğµy«İ¤@·|¨à... -- »O¥_¥«¬F©²ºô¯¸­º­¶ http://www.taipei.gov.tw ¥x¥_¥«¬F©²¥«¥Á¹q¤l«H½cªA°Èºô http://webmail.sn.tpemail.net.tw From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 10:31:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B23A916A422; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:31:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: from ns.live555.com (ns.live555.com [66.80.62.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52BB243D70; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:31:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: from ns.live555.com (localhost.live555.com [127.0.0.1]) by ns.live555.com (8.13.3/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k2GAVEA4068588; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 02:31:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: (from rsf@localhost) by ns.live555.com (8.13.3/8.12.9/Submit) id k2GAVDpS068579; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 02:31:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rsf) Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.1.20060316022816.01d1d1b0@live555.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 02:31:06 -0800 To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-net@freebsd.org From: Ross Finlayson Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Subject: What's up with all the spam on several FreeBSD mailing lists? X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:31:18 -0000 What is the reason for the sudden flood of spam on several FreeBSD mailing lists? Do these lists no longer require that senders be subscribed to the list? Or are legitimate senders' computers infected with a virus that is sending the spam in their names? Ross. From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 11:11:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35F9016A400; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 11:11:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jura@networks.ru) Received: from networks.ru (ns.networks.ru [80.249.138.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A18443D45; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 11:10:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jura@networks.ru) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.7 required=6.0 Received: from [85.140.148.170] (account jura HELO notebook) by networks.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0) with ESMTPSA id 2461177; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:10:55 +0300 Message-ID: <011901c648ea$4a738670$0701010a@notebook> From: "Yuriy N. Shkandybin" To: , Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:10:52 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: jumbo em X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 11:11:00 -0000 Hello=20 I have 2 freebsd servers connected by dedicated wire via em interfaces. systems =3D 6.1-PRERELEASE #0: Tue Mar 14 11:58:23 MSK 2006 1st) man em says MTU size for Jumbo Frames is 16114 and i'm sure i've setup this on = freebsd-5 and probably ealier 6.0 But now=20 ifconfig em1 mtu 16114 ifconfig: ioctl (set mtu): Invalid argument 16110 - max possible 2nd)=20 Seems ok with mss=20 13:59:36.590411 IP 10.0.0.1.31408 > 10.0.0.2.22: S = 3543827971:3543827971(0) win 65535 13:59:36.590462 IP 10.0.0.2.22 > 10.0.0.1.31408: S = 3003760814:3003760814(0) ack 3543827972 win 65535 seems jumbo working but=20 983/652/1635 mbufs in use (current/cache/total) 908/410/1318/25600 mbuf clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 908/329 mbuf+clusters out of packet secondary zone in use = (current/cache) 0/0/0/0 4k (page size) jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 0/0/0/0 9k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 0/0/0/0 16k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 2061K/983K/3044K bytes allocated to network (current/cache/total) 0/14496/3371 requests for mbufs denied (mbufs/clusters/mbuf+clusters) 0/0/0 requests for jumbo clusters denied (4k/9k/16k) 54/129/6656 sfbufs in use (current/peak/max) 0 requests for sfbufs denied 0 requests for sfbufs delayed 23799 requests for I/O initiated by sendfile 107 calls to protocol drain routines thereis empty info about jumbos. Is it ok? Jura From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 12:23:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FD9D16A41F for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 12:23:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@successfulhosting.com) Received: from mail.successfulhosting.com (web.successfulhosting.com [147.202.46.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 44AB243D45 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 12:23:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@successfulhosting.com) Received: (qmail 29218 invoked by uid 0); 16 Mar 2006 12:25:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO BLADESNITZ) (mhouston@successfulhosting.com@68.205.195.64) by mail.successfulhosting.com with SMTP; 16 Mar 2006 12:25:47 -0000 From: "Matt" To: "'Jack Vogel'" , Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:23:40 -0500 Organization: Successful Hosting Message-ID: <007b01c648f4$75eb41d0$75a31f9b@BLADESNITZ> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.1830 Thread-Index: AcZIZBQ7XJPB1k09QkC0wZXfx10mUgAhwTaw In-Reply-To: <2a41acea0603151100s45dae1b0mcd9281ff2fe32402@mail.gmail.com> Cc: Subject: RE: IPMI During Boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 12:23:42 -0000 Hello, The help is much appreciate. Just to test thoroughly, I recompiled my kernel without the em driver, and I didn't load the module in loader.conf. Upon rebooting, it flew through just fine, and I was even able to drop to single-user mode with no issues. I then enabled the em module in the loader.conf, and got the results as before, I'm dead in the water until the network is configured. Below is the information you requested. The IPMI Card is currently configured as: IP: 192.168.2.110 MAC: 00:30:48:2F:A0:80 Here's the ifconfig: em0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 options=b inet 192.168.2.105 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.2.255 ether 00:30:48:2f:a0:80 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active And pciconf -v -l output: hostb0@pci0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x688015d9 chip=0x35908086 rev=0x0c hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'E752x Server Memory Controller Hub' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI none0@pci0:0:1: class=0xff0000 card=0x688015d9 chip=0x35918086 rev=0x0c hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'E752x Memory Controller Hub Error Reporting Registers' none1@pci0:1:0: class=0x088000 card=0x688015d9 chip=0x35948086 rev=0x0c hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'E752x Memory Controller Hub DMA Controller' class = base peripheral pcib1@pci0:2:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000050 chip=0x35958086 rev=0x0c hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'E752x Memory Controller Hub PCI Express Port A0' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI pcib4@pci0:4:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000050 chip=0x35978086 rev=0x0c hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'E752x Memory Controller Hub PCI Express Port B0' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI pcib5@pci0:6:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000050 chip=0x35998086 rev=0x0c hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'E752x Memory Controller Hub PCI Express Port C0' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI pcib6@pci0:30:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000000 chip=0x244e8086 rev=0xc2 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801BA/CA/DB/DBL/EB/ER/FB (ICH2/3/4/4/5/5/6), 6300ESB Hub Interface to PCI Bridge' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI isab0@pci0:31:0: class=0x060100 card=0x00000000 chip=0x24d08086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC Interface Bridge' class = bridge subclass = PCI-ISA atapci0@pci0:31:1: class=0x01018a card=0x688015d9 chip=0x24db8086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) EIDE Controller' class = mass storage subclass = ATA none2@pci0:31:3: class=0x0c0500 card=0x688015d9 chip=0x24d38086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus Controller' class = serial bus subclass = SMBus pcib2@pci1:0:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000044 chip=0x03298086 rev=0x09 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '6700PXH PCI Express-to-PCI Express Bridge A' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI none3@pci1:0:1: class=0x080020 card=0x688015d9 chip=0x03268086 rev=0x09 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'PCI Bridge Hub I/OxAPIC Interrupt Controller A' class = base peripheral subclass = interrupt controller pcib3@pci1:0:2: class=0x060400 card=0x00000044 chip=0x032a8086 rev=0x09 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '6700PXH PCI Express-to-PCI Express Bridge B' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI none4@pci1:0:3: class=0x080020 card=0x688015d9 chip=0x03278086 rev=0x09 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'PCI Bridge Hub I/OxAPIC Interrupt Controller B' class = base peripheral subclass = interrupt controller em0@pci2:3:0: class=0x020000 card=0x117a15d9 chip=0x10798086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82546EB Dual Port Gigabit Ethernet Controller' class = network subclass = ethernet em1@pci2:3:1: class=0x020000 card=0x117a15d9 chip=0x10798086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82546EB Dual Port Gigabit Ethernet Controller' class = network subclass = ethernet ahd0@pci3:4:0: class=0x010000 card=0x688015d9 chip=0x801d9005 rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Adaptec Inc' device = 'AIC-7902B Ultra320 SCSI Controller' class = mass storage subclass = SCSI ahd1@pci3:4:1: class=0x010000 card=0x688015d9 chip=0x801d9005 rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Adaptec Inc' device = 'AIC-7902B Ultra320 SCSI Controller' class = mass storage subclass = SCSI none5@pci6:1:0: class=0x030000 card=0x80081002 chip=0x47521002 rev=0x27 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'ATI Technologies Inc' device = 'Rage XL PCI' class = display subclass = VGA Matt Houston Systems Administrator Successful Hosting matt@successfulhosting.com http://www.SuccessfulHosting.com Toll-Free: +1.866.494.5096 ================================= The Success behind your web site! ================================= -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jack Vogel Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 2:01 PM To: Julian Elischer Cc: Matt; freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPMI During Boot On 3/15/06, Jack Vogel wrote: > On 3/15/06, Julian Elischer wrote: > > > > Working with intel (TM) motherboards using the Intel Gb chips, > > and talking to the intel reps last year (for my previous employer) I was > > led to believe that > > these chips supported IPMI by giving the BMC a back door into the same > > NIC that the > > OS was using. > > (using an I2c (SMB) interface) > > On the machines I used, I am pretty sure the bios gave the same MAC > > address to the BMC > > side of things as the OS side of theings by default, and we had is set > > up so that we used the > > same IP address also. > > well, i'm not positive about the MAC thing, but I am quite sure that on > IBM xSeries systems you assigned a different IP address to the BMC, > this was done in the BIOS. And, when I think about that, if it did have > a seperate IP address then it musta had a seperate MAC too... > > Course, that was IBM hardware. I'll have to check up on this more > at work tomorrow. > > So Julian, are you saying that you have seen this kind of functionality > work on FreeBSD?? Hmm, well I've been told that using the same IP address or not should both work :) Matt, can you do a pciconf listing for me, I'd like to see exactly what MAC you have. The most recent systems that are AMT capable need some special code in the driver that FreeBSD doesnt yet have. I'm wondering if that might be whats happening here. Jack _______________________________________________ freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 12:29:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B813B16A420 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 12:29:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@successfulhosting.com) Received: from mail.successfulhosting.com (web.successfulhosting.com [147.202.46.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E40E43D72 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 12:29:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@successfulhosting.com) Received: (qmail 30931 invoked by uid 0); 16 Mar 2006 12:31:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO BLADESNITZ) (mhouston@successfulhosting.com@68.205.195.64) by mail.successfulhosting.com with SMTP; 16 Mar 2006 12:31:07 -0000 From: "Matt" To: Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:29:01 -0500 Organization: Successful Hosting Message-ID: <007c01c648f5$34cff870$75a31f9b@BLADESNITZ> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.1830 Thread-Index: AcZIZBQ7XJPB1k09QkC0wZXfx10mUgAhwTawAAJ0OQA= In-Reply-To: <007b01c648f4$75eb41d0$75a31f9b@BLADESNITZ> Subject: RE: IPMI During Boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 12:29:04 -0000 Just to emphasize the fact, I'd actually remove the ifconfig_ lines from my rc.conf, so when the OS came up, it did not assign an IP to the interface. IPMI refused to work until I assigned an IP. Once assigned, I can remove the IP and do ifconfig em0 down, etc. and the IPMI continues to work (until I reboot). Matt Houston Systems Administrator Successful Hosting matt@successfulhosting.com http://www.SuccessfulHosting.com Toll-Free: +1.866.494.5096 ================================= The Success behind your web site! ================================= -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 7:24 AM To: 'Jack Vogel'; freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: RE: IPMI During Boot Hello, The help is much appreciate. Just to test thoroughly, I recompiled my kernel without the em driver, and I didn't load the module in loader.conf. Upon rebooting, it flew through just fine, and I was even able to drop to single-user mode with no issues. I then enabled the em module in the loader.conf, and got the results as before, I'm dead in the water until the network is configured. Below is the information you requested. The IPMI Card is currently configured as: IP: 192.168.2.110 MAC: 00:30:48:2F:A0:80 Here's the ifconfig: em0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 options=b inet 192.168.2.105 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.2.255 ether 00:30:48:2f:a0:80 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active And pciconf -v -l output: hostb0@pci0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x688015d9 chip=0x35908086 rev=0x0c hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'E752x Server Memory Controller Hub' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI none0@pci0:0:1: class=0xff0000 card=0x688015d9 chip=0x35918086 rev=0x0c hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'E752x Memory Controller Hub Error Reporting Registers' none1@pci0:1:0: class=0x088000 card=0x688015d9 chip=0x35948086 rev=0x0c hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'E752x Memory Controller Hub DMA Controller' class = base peripheral pcib1@pci0:2:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000050 chip=0x35958086 rev=0x0c hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'E752x Memory Controller Hub PCI Express Port A0' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI pcib4@pci0:4:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000050 chip=0x35978086 rev=0x0c hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'E752x Memory Controller Hub PCI Express Port B0' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI pcib5@pci0:6:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000050 chip=0x35998086 rev=0x0c hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'E752x Memory Controller Hub PCI Express Port C0' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI pcib6@pci0:30:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000000 chip=0x244e8086 rev=0xc2 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801BA/CA/DB/DBL/EB/ER/FB (ICH2/3/4/4/5/5/6), 6300ESB Hub Interface to PCI Bridge' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI isab0@pci0:31:0: class=0x060100 card=0x00000000 chip=0x24d08086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC Interface Bridge' class = bridge subclass = PCI-ISA atapci0@pci0:31:1: class=0x01018a card=0x688015d9 chip=0x24db8086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) EIDE Controller' class = mass storage subclass = ATA none2@pci0:31:3: class=0x0c0500 card=0x688015d9 chip=0x24d38086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus Controller' class = serial bus subclass = SMBus pcib2@pci1:0:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000044 chip=0x03298086 rev=0x09 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '6700PXH PCI Express-to-PCI Express Bridge A' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI none3@pci1:0:1: class=0x080020 card=0x688015d9 chip=0x03268086 rev=0x09 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'PCI Bridge Hub I/OxAPIC Interrupt Controller A' class = base peripheral subclass = interrupt controller pcib3@pci1:0:2: class=0x060400 card=0x00000044 chip=0x032a8086 rev=0x09 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '6700PXH PCI Express-to-PCI Express Bridge B' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI none4@pci1:0:3: class=0x080020 card=0x688015d9 chip=0x03278086 rev=0x09 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'PCI Bridge Hub I/OxAPIC Interrupt Controller B' class = base peripheral subclass = interrupt controller em0@pci2:3:0: class=0x020000 card=0x117a15d9 chip=0x10798086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82546EB Dual Port Gigabit Ethernet Controller' class = network subclass = ethernet em1@pci2:3:1: class=0x020000 card=0x117a15d9 chip=0x10798086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82546EB Dual Port Gigabit Ethernet Controller' class = network subclass = ethernet ahd0@pci3:4:0: class=0x010000 card=0x688015d9 chip=0x801d9005 rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Adaptec Inc' device = 'AIC-7902B Ultra320 SCSI Controller' class = mass storage subclass = SCSI ahd1@pci3:4:1: class=0x010000 card=0x688015d9 chip=0x801d9005 rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Adaptec Inc' device = 'AIC-7902B Ultra320 SCSI Controller' class = mass storage subclass = SCSI none5@pci6:1:0: class=0x030000 card=0x80081002 chip=0x47521002 rev=0x27 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'ATI Technologies Inc' device = 'Rage XL PCI' class = display subclass = VGA Matt Houston Systems Administrator Successful Hosting matt@successfulhosting.com http://www.SuccessfulHosting.com Toll-Free: +1.866.494.5096 ================================= The Success behind your web site! ================================= -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jack Vogel Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 2:01 PM To: Julian Elischer Cc: Matt; freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPMI During Boot On 3/15/06, Jack Vogel wrote: > On 3/15/06, Julian Elischer wrote: > > > > Working with intel (TM) motherboards using the Intel Gb chips, > > and talking to the intel reps last year (for my previous employer) I was > > led to believe that > > these chips supported IPMI by giving the BMC a back door into the same > > NIC that the > > OS was using. > > (using an I2c (SMB) interface) > > On the machines I used, I am pretty sure the bios gave the same MAC > > address to the BMC > > side of things as the OS side of theings by default, and we had is set > > up so that we used the > > same IP address also. > > well, i'm not positive about the MAC thing, but I am quite sure that on > IBM xSeries systems you assigned a different IP address to the BMC, > this was done in the BIOS. And, when I think about that, if it did have > a seperate IP address then it musta had a seperate MAC too... > > Course, that was IBM hardware. I'll have to check up on this more > at work tomorrow. > > So Julian, are you saying that you have seen this kind of functionality > work on FreeBSD?? Hmm, well I've been told that using the same IP address or not should both work :) Matt, can you do a pciconf listing for me, I'd like to see exactly what MAC you have. The most recent systems that are AMT capable need some special code in the driver that FreeBSD doesnt yet have. I'm wondering if that might be whats happening here. Jack _______________________________________________ freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" _______________________________________________ freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 13:26:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C02FF16A401; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:26:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03ADC43D46; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:25:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A4715EFD; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:25:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00529-01; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:25:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-194-11.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.194.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E77AA5D99; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:25:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4419676A.4030208@mac.com> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:26:02 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ross Finlayson , "freebsd-net@freebsd.org" , postmaster@freebsd.org References: <7.0.1.0.1.20060316022816.01d1d1b0@live555.com> In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20060316022816.01d1d1b0@live555.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: Subject: Re: What's up with all the spam on several FreeBSD mailing lists? X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:26:01 -0000 [ ...cross-posting minimized to one list, postmaster@ CC'ed... ] Ross Finlayson wrote: > What is the reason for the sudden flood of spam on several FreeBSD > mailing lists? Do these lists no longer require that senders be > subscribed to the list? Or are legitimate senders' computers infected > with a virus that is sending the spam in their names? Respectively, sometimes people do the SPAM equivalent of a drive-by shooting and flood the lists (which is happening now), the FreeBSD lists are mostly open and permit unsubscribed posting, and sometimes, yes, legitimate senders get infected and have their machines bounce spam our way, too. postmaster@ is undoubtedly on it, but if you have sufficient insight into mail headers to help complain to the sending ISPs, by all means feel free to help. -- -Chuck PS: A postmaster's job is almost always a thankless task. (But there are exceptions: thanks for doing what you can. :) PPS: However, I think that the list admins perhaps might take better advantage of Mailman's ability to have posts be moderated temporarily: URI:/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net/?VARHELP=general/emergency If this isn't currently being done because the people with moderator access lack the time, would this change if more people are willing to help moderate...? I would very much prefer to see the FreeBSD forums be rid of off-topic spam. From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 13:52:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C40F16A423 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:52:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from porfhuzzrkm@hotmail.com) Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (aboh68.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [83.8.23.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D7F3B43D46 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:52:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from porfhuzzrkm@hotmail.com) From: "NINWORKER232" To: net@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20060316135208.D7F3B43D46@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:52:08 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Ultra Allure Pheromones guarantees you not only X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:52:09 -0000 U]tra Allure Pheromones work like the power of Cupid. [1]http://www.deceos.info/ph/?q6c40b References 1. http://www.deceos.info/ph/?q6c40b From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 15:26:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CE9A16A437 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:26:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spadge@fromley.net) Received: from queue03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (queue03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C82CA43DB7 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:25:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spadge@fromley.net) Received: from aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060316150705.HFKC27969.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:07:05 +0000 Received: from tobermory.home ([82.18.11.31]) by aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060316150705.DQPL18957.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@tobermory.home> for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:07:05 +0000 Received: from [192.168.124.185] (unknown [192.168.124.185]) by tobermory.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCDB7A6C9E for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:07:00 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <44197F15.70209@fromley.net> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:07:01 +0000 From: Spadge User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org References: <7.0.1.0.1.20060316022816.01d1d1b0@live555.com> In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20060316022816.01d1d1b0@live555.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: What's up with all the spam on several FreeBSD mailing lists? X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:26:15 -0000 Ross Finlayson wrote: > What is the reason for the sudden flood of spam on several FreeBSD > mailing lists? Do these lists no longer require that senders be > subscribed to the list? Or are legitimate senders' computers infected > with a virus that is sending the spam in their names? > > Ross. Someone probably upgraded something and it's b0rk3d their spamassassin. It's very annoying though, and it needs to stop somehow. :D -- Spadge "Intoccabile" www.fromley.com From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 15:40:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4ACE16A400 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:40:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@wm-access.no) Received: from lakepoint.domeneshop.no (lakepoint.domeneshop.no [194.63.248.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1102443D45 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:40:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@wm-access.no) Received: from [192.168.9.8] (gw1.arcticwireless.no [80.203.184.14]) (authenticated bits=0) by lakepoint.domeneshop.no (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2GFeCl5007049 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 16 Mar 2006 16:40:12 +0100 Message-ID: <441986D5.8090208@wm-access.no> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 16:40:05 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sten_Daniel_S=F8rsdal?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: OxY References: <001101c64754$cbbd65d0$0201a8c0@oxy> In-Reply-To: <001101c64754$cbbd65d0$0201a8c0@oxy> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 OpenPGP: id=D6F56A9B Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig5E94B28B113DB5CBBC3DECB4" Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with Marwell gigabit performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:40:23 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig5E94B28B113DB5CBBC3DECB4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OxY wrote: > tested with iperf (bidirectional test, udp transfer, not stream) > and got 8-15% packet drop when the system was idle. You might have a duplex mismatch problem. --=20 Sten Daniel S=F8rsdal --------------enig5E94B28B113DB5CBBC3DECB4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEGYbaMvOF8Nb1apsRAkbBAJ4ya0aherBXGWn8j1AIIoPu8HrsrwCfSTa8 ibpGnTWAhS+6ATtB5ZACWtU= =h7I5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig5E94B28B113DB5CBBC3DECB4-- From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 18:18:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 985C316A400 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:18:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pertti.kosunen@pp.nic.fi) Received: from pne-smtpout4-sn1.fre.skanova.net (pne-smtpout4-sn1.fre.skanova.net [81.228.11.168]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B4F443D49 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:18:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pertti.kosunen@pp.nic.fi) Received: from [192.168.1.20] (84.249.9.74) by pne-smtpout4-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.2.070) id 43CBBB290043B5F2; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:18:31 +0100 Message-ID: <4419ABF7.70707@pp.nic.fi> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 20:18:31 +0200 From: Pertti Kosunen User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060113) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sten_Daniel_S=F8rsdal?= References: <001101c64754$cbbd65d0$0201a8c0@oxy> <441986D5.8090208@wm-access.no> In-Reply-To: <441986D5.8090208@wm-access.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, OxY Subject: Re: problem with Marwell gigabit performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:18:37 -0000 Sten Daniel Sørsdal wrote: > You might have a duplex mismatch problem. Isn't there only full-duplex in 1000baseTX? From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 18:31:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@www.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@www.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA65116A420 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:31:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bart@it-ss.be) Received: from piggy.solidweb.be (piggy.web.bru.it-ss.be [195.28.164.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D7343D6A for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:31:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bart@it-ss.be) Received: from bartwrkstxp (97-3.241.81.adsl.skynet.be [81.241.3.97]) (authenticated bits=0) by piggy.solidweb.be (8.12.9-SW.b/8.12.9-SW) with ESMTP id k2GIUvvF014889 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:30:58 +0100 Message-ID: <00d201c64927$c5ac6680$020b000a@bartwrkstxp> From: "Bart Van Kerckhove" To: Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:30:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: Subject: Re: OT - Quagga/CARP X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:31:01 -0000 Bart Van Kerckhove wrote: > >>> mfd(config)# int vlan59 >>> mfd(config-if)# ip address 10.197.66.97/27 >>> % Can't set interface IP address: File exists. >>> mfd(config-if)# >> >> It's FreeBSD's behavior >> >> root@freetest# route add 10.0.0.0/30 192.168.1.1 >> add net 10.0.0.0: gateway 192.168.1.1 >> root@freetest# ifconfig vlan100 10.0.0.1/30 >> ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists >> > Yes it is, found that out the hard way too when we tried similar > things before. > Is this by design, or just lack of time/interest? > If anyone feels up to the task of fixing/implementing what's needed > to make this work, we'd be happy to sponsor its development. > > Met vriendelijke groet / With kind regards, > > Bart Van Kerckhove > bart@it-ss.be From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 18:35:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BF2B16A400 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:35:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bart@it-ss.be) Received: from piggy.solidweb.be (piggy.web.bru.it-ss.be [195.28.164.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3C6143D4C for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:35:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bart@it-ss.be) Received: from bartwrkstxp (97-3.241.81.adsl.skynet.be [81.241.3.97]) (authenticated bits=0) by piggy.solidweb.be (8.12.9-SW.b/8.12.9-SW) with ESMTP id k2GIZJvF017545 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:35:19 +0100 Message-ID: <014e01c64928$6107abd0$020b000a@bartwrkstxp> From: "Bart Van Kerckhove" To: "freebsd-net@FreeBSD.org" References: Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:35:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Subject: Re: OT - Quagga/CARP X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:35:21 -0000 >> mfd(config)# int vlan59 >> mfd(config-if)# ip address 10.197.66.97/27 >> % Can't set interface IP address: File exists. >> mfd(config-if)# > > It's FreeBSD's behavior > > root@freetest# route add 10.0.0.0/30 192.168.1.1 > add net 10.0.0.0: gateway 192.168.1.1 > root@freetest# ifconfig vlan100 10.0.0.1/30 > ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists > Yes it is, found that out the hard way too when we tried similar things before. Is this by design, or just lack of time/interest? If anyone feels up to the task of fixing/implementing what's needed to make this work, we'd be happy to sponsor its development. Met vriendelijke groet / With kind regards, Bart Van Kerckhove bart@it-ss.be From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 18:37:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5CCA16A401 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:37:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfvogel@gmail.com) Received: from pproxy.gmail.com (pproxy.gmail.com [64.233.166.176]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF2C743D45 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:37:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jfvogel@gmail.com) Received: by pproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id n25so568952pyg for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:37:53 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=USTj4U9UXMXBd/gY5LLTrmlaoGut5n16qnqFWNr0ZR1TtzDXpDf2vXt94ABwtB9QR5IaQ8eT7kFxFj6yG6/OIeHqNc44xF/0BaMk7RdDjWOV9XRFvKyvUUmjCGcuVBHf3Sub0reVHQmQHLyZb47E0STvSkPhYxcd0zG1Qgksp7s= Received: by 10.35.113.12 with SMTP id q12mr1696897pym; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:42:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.28.4 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:42:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2a41acea0603160842i6a8aa2adk63ce7ffc4a2e5113@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:42:09 -0800 From: "Jack Vogel" To: "Yuriy N. Shkandybin" In-Reply-To: <011901c648ea$4a738670$0701010a@notebook> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <011901c648ea$4a738670$0701010a@notebook> Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: jumbo em X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:37:55 -0000 On 3/16/06, Yuriy N. Shkandybin wrote: > Hello > > I have 2 freebsd servers connected by dedicated wire via em interfaces. > systems =3D 6.1-PRERELEASE #0: Tue Mar 14 11:58:23 MSK 2006 > > 1st) > man em says > MTU size for Jumbo Frames is 16114 and i'm sure i've setup this on freebs= d-5 and probably ealier 6.0 > But now > ifconfig em1 mtu 16114 > ifconfig: ioctl (set mtu): Invalid argument > 16110 - max possible With newer hardware the FIFO has been getting smaller, so jumbos even this large wont be allowed, I'm away from the code right now but on the 82571 adapter its max is in the 9K range. And the man page is more than likely out of date. Whether you can do jumbos at all, and if so, what size you are allowed to make them is adpater specific. Jack From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 18:52:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9211416A42D for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:52:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oxy@field.hu) Received: from green.field.hu (green.field.hu [217.20.130.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59DF743D53 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:52:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oxy@field.hu) Received: from localhost (green.field.hu [217.20.130.28]) by green.field.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 293FF119D4E; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:51:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from green.field.hu ([217.20.130.28]) by localhost (green.field.hu [217.20.130.28]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16954-05; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:51:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from oxy (dsl217-197-187-71.pool.tvnet.hu [217.197.187.71]) by green.field.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B68EF119CA5; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:51:55 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001301c6492a$bd91a250$0201a8c0@oxy> From: "OxY" To: "Pertti Kosunen" , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sten_Daniel_S=F8rsdal?= References: <001101c64754$cbbd65d0$0201a8c0@oxy> <441986D5.8090208@wm-access.no> <4419ABF7.70707@pp.nic.fi> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:52:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-Virus-Scanned: by Amavisd-new (Spamassassin+Razor2+Pyzor+DCC+Bayes db, Clamd Antivirus) at field.hu Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with Marwell gigabit performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:52:18 -0000 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX ) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pertti Kosunen" To: "Sten Daniel Sørsdal" Cc: "OxY" ; Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 7:18 PM Subject: Re: problem with Marwell gigabit performance > Sten Daniel Sørsdal wrote: >> You might have a duplex mismatch problem. > > Isn't there only full-duplex in 1000baseTX? From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 18:58:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0CAF16A400 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:58:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brad@comstyle.com) Received: from mail.comstyle.com (toronto-hs-216-138-195-228.s-ip.magma.ca [216.138.195.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E7F943D45 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:58:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brad@comstyle.com) Received: from blar.home.comstyle.com (blar.home.comstyle.com [IPv6:2001:240:589:1::3]) by fubar.home.comstyle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C4E1A2E92 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:58:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by blar.home.comstyle.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B91B0379DD; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:58:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:58:14 -0500 From: Brad To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060316185814.GB23644@blar.home.comstyle.com> References: <011901c648ea$4a738670$0701010a@notebook> <2a41acea0603160842i6a8aa2adk63ce7ffc4a2e5113@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2a41acea0603160842i6a8aa2adk63ce7ffc4a2e5113@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Subject: Re: jumbo em X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:58:22 -0000 On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 08:42:09AM -0800, Jack Vogel wrote: > On 3/16/06, Yuriy N. Shkandybin wrote: > > Hello > > > > I have 2 freebsd servers connected by dedicated wire via em interfaces. > > systems = 6.1-PRERELEASE #0: Tue Mar 14 11:58:23 MSK 2006 > > > > 1st) > > man em says > > MTU size for Jumbo Frames is 16114 and i'm sure i've setup this on freebsd-5 and probably ealier 6.0 > > But now > > ifconfig em1 mtu 16114 > > ifconfig: ioctl (set mtu): Invalid argument > > 16110 - max possible > > With newer hardware the FIFO has been getting smaller, so jumbos > even this large wont be allowed, I'm away from the code right now > but on the 82571 adapter its max is in the 9K range. > > And the man page is more than likely out of date. > > Whether you can do jumbos at all, and if so, what size you are allowed > to make them is adpater specific. > > Jack The maximum MTU size for 82571 and 82572 based adapters is 10,482. 82573 has no Jumbo support and the rest can have up to 16k. From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 19:37:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 015BC16A420 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:37:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bms@spc.org) Received: from mindfull.spc.org (mindfull.spc.org [83.167.185.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 089FB43D6B for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:37:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bms@spc.org) Received: from arginine.spc.org ([83.167.185.2]) by mindfull.spc.org with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.52) id 1FJyHx-0002gb-TX; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:37:37 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arginine.spc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4F965499; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:37:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from arginine.spc.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (arginine.spc.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 32413-06-3; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:37:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: by arginine.spc.org (Postfix, from userid 1078) id B782A653F9; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:37:40 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:37:40 +0000 From: Bruce M Simpson To: Bart Van Kerckhove Message-ID: <20060316193740.GE11850@spc.org> Mail-Followup-To: Bruce M Simpson , Bart Van Kerckhove , "freebsd-net@FreeBSD.org" References: <014e01c64928$6107abd0$020b000a@bartwrkstxp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <014e01c64928$6107abd0$020b000a@bartwrkstxp> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Organization: Incunabulum X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mindfull.spc.org X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - spc.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: "freebsd-net@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: OT - Quagga/CARP X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:37:45 -0000 On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 07:35:20PM +0100, Bart Van Kerckhove wrote: > Is this by design, or just lack of time/interest? > If anyone feels up to the task of fixing/implementing what's needed to make > this work, we'd be happy to sponsor its development. This is a collision between the connected route implicitly created by configuring an interface which has the same prefix length as an existing route in the FreeBSD FIB. This is a known issue and is by design. Most BSD-derived implementations have this limitation. It needs to be resolved in preparation for equal-cost multipath. Sadly whilst I'd be more than happy to work on this (with or without funding), I don't have the free time to do so, but I may be able to eke out spare time to look at patches. Regards, BMS From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 19:46:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC42416A41F for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:46:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brad@comstyle.com) Received: from mail.comstyle.com (toronto-hs-216-138-195-228.s-ip.magma.ca [216.138.195.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ECB043D6E for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:46:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brad@comstyle.com) Received: from blar.home.comstyle.com (blar.home.comstyle.com [IPv6:2001:240:589:1::3]) by fubar.home.comstyle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 092DAA2E92 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:46:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by blar.home.comstyle.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EEB7F379DD; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:46:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:46:03 -0500 From: Brad To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060316194602.GC23644@blar.home.comstyle.com> References: <001101c64754$cbbd65d0$0201a8c0@oxy> <441986D5.8090208@wm-access.no> <4419ABF7.70707@pp.nic.fi> <001301c6492a$bd91a250$0201a8c0@oxy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <001301c6492a$bd91a250$0201a8c0@oxy> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Subject: Re: problem with Marwell gigabit performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:46:16 -0000 On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 07:52:13PM +0100, OxY wrote: > media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX ) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pertti Kosunen" > To: "Sten Daniel S?rsdal" > Cc: "OxY" ; > Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 7:18 PM > Subject: Re: problem with Marwell gigabit performance > > > >Sten Daniel S?rsdal wrote: > >>You might have a duplex mismatch problem. > > > >Isn't there only full-duplex in 1000baseTX? No. Some network cards cannot be hardcoded to a particular speed/duplex at all and can only do auto, but there is definitely half-duplex in the 1Gbps spec. 10Gbps Ethernet has finally dropped half-duplex. From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 21:36:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F30F16A424 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:36:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bart@it-ss.be) Received: from piggy.solidweb.be (piggy.web.bru.it-ss.be [195.28.164.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F8243D76 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:36:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bart@it-ss.be) Received: from bartwrkstxp (97-3.241.81.adsl.skynet.be [81.241.3.97]) (authenticated bits=0) by piggy.solidweb.be (8.12.9-SW.b/8.12.9-SW) with ESMTP id k2GLaMvF023133; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:36:22 +0100 Message-ID: <003701c64941$ac548540$020b000a@bartwrkstxp> From: "Bart Van Kerckhove" To: "Bruce M Simpson" References: <014e01c64928$6107abd0$020b000a@bartwrkstxp> <20060316193740.GE11850@spc.org> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:36:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=SHA1; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01C6494A.0C4565C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: "freebsd-net@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: OT - Quagga/CARP X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:36:30 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C6494A.0C4565C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bruce M Simpson wrote: > On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 07:35:20PM +0100, Bart Van Kerckhove wrote: >> Is this by design, or just lack of time/interest? >> If anyone feels up to the task of fixing/implementing what's needed >> to make this work, we'd be happy to sponsor its development. > > This is a collision between the connected route implicitly created > by configuring an interface which has the same prefix length as > an existing route in the FreeBSD FIB. > > This is a known issue and is by design. > > Most BSD-derived implementations have this limitation. It needs to be > resolved in preparation for equal-cost multipath. > ECMP was indeed one of the features i was looking for at that time, which i found to be impossible. I just don't like the idea of moving towards another platform just for this reason, since I'm very happy with freebsd's performance. There used to be a patch for ECMP, but it was a huge hack. very dirty at best. > Sadly whilst I'd be more than happy to work on this (with or without > funding), I don't have the free time to do so, but I may be able to > eke out spare time to look at patches. Any quick hacks you have in mind that could allow multiple copies of the same route / pfxlen in the freebsd routingtable? Doesn't even need to have metrics in kernel-level, the point of the whole thing (for now) would be to be able to insert an additional route with the same prefix, and delete the previousy set route *afterwards*. Which is what ospfd/zebra would do. Any insights / hacks / other dirty things are very appreciated. 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Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:52:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bms@spc.org) Received: from mindfull.spc.org (mindfull.spc.org [83.167.185.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A840143D49 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:52:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bms@spc.org) Received: from arginine.spc.org ([83.167.185.2]) by mindfull.spc.org with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.52) id 1FK0O3-00046k-SR; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:52:03 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arginine.spc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1537365499; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:52:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from arginine.spc.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (arginine.spc.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 34196-01; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:52:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: by arginine.spc.org (Postfix, from userid 1078) id 1B30F653F9; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:52:07 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:52:07 +0000 From: Bruce M Simpson To: Bart Van Kerckhove Message-ID: <20060316215207.GH11850@spc.org> Mail-Followup-To: Bruce M Simpson , Bart Van Kerckhove , "freebsd-net@FreeBSD.org" References: <20060316193740.GE11850@spc.org> <003701c64941$ac548540$020b000a@bartwrkstxp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <003701c64941$ac548540$020b000a@bartwrkstxp> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Organization: Incunabulum X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mindfull.spc.org X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - spc.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: "freebsd-net@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: OT - Quagga/CARP X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:52:11 -0000 On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 10:36:20PM +0100, Bart Van Kerckhove wrote: > ECMP was indeed one of the features i was looking for at that time, which i > found to be impossible. > I just don't like the idea of moving towards another platform just for this > reason, since I'm very happy with freebsd's performance. > There used to be a patch for ECMP, but it was a huge hack. very dirty at > best. itojun recently committed a set of ECMP related changes to OpenBSD. Unfortunately I have not had free time to review them in any detail. I hope andre@ is watching this thread, it's probably on his laundry list too. I believe other parties may have implemented the hack you are referring to. Regards, BMS From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 22:08:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94A1B16A41F for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:08:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bart@it-ss.be) Received: from piggy.solidweb.be (piggy.web.bru.it-ss.be [195.28.164.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB74B43D48 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:08:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bart@it-ss.be) Received: from bartwrkstxp (97-3.241.81.adsl.skynet.be [81.241.3.97]) (authenticated bits=0) by piggy.solidweb.be (8.12.9-SW.b/8.12.9-SW) with ESMTP id k2GM8YvF008184; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:08:34 +0100 Message-ID: <001e01c64946$2bbad240$020b000a@bartwrkstxp> From: "Bart Van Kerckhove" To: "Bruce M Simpson" References: <20060316193740.GE11850@spc.org><003701c64941$ac548540$020b000a@bartwrkstxp> <20060316215207.GH11850@spc.org> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:08:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: "freebsd-net@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: OT - Quagga/CARP X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:08:36 -0000 Bruce M Simpson wrote: > On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 10:36:20PM +0100, Bart Van Kerckhove wrote: >> ECMP was indeed one of the features i was looking for at that time, >> which i found to be impossible. >> I just don't like the idea of moving towards another platform just >> for this reason, since I'm very happy with freebsd's performance. >> There used to be a patch for ECMP, but it was a huge hack. very >> dirty at best. > > itojun recently committed a set of ECMP related changes to OpenBSD. > Unfortunately I have not had free time to review them in any detail. > What approach did they take? The ecmp patch i encountered for freebsd didn't lift the limitation regarding 1 route/pfx/pfxlen in the fib. Is this the case here too? Or did they take a new approach? > I hope andre@ is watching this thread, it's probably on his laundry > list too. I believe other parties may have implemented the hack you > are referring to. He is watching :) (lucky me/us ;]) Met vriendelijke groet / With kind regards, Bart Van Kerckhove bart@it-ss.be From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 22:21:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 921FF16A424 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:21:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brad@comstyle.com) Received: from mail.comstyle.com (toronto-hs-216-138-195-228.s-ip.magma.ca [216.138.195.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C3B843D46 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:21:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brad@comstyle.com) Received: from blar.home.comstyle.com (blar.home.comstyle.com [IPv6:2001:240:589:1::3]) by fubar.home.comstyle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633DAA2E92 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:21:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by blar.home.comstyle.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 72D35379DD; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:21:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:21:11 -0500 From: Brad To: "freebsd-net@FreeBSD.org" Message-ID: <20060316222111.GD23644@blar.home.comstyle.com> References: <20060316193740.GE11850@spc.org> <003701c64941$ac548540$020b000a@bartwrkstxp> <20060316215207.GH11850@spc.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060316215207.GH11850@spc.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Subject: Re: OT - Quagga/CARP X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:21:14 -0000 On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 09:52:07PM +0000, Bruce M Simpson wrote: > On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 10:36:20PM +0100, Bart Van Kerckhove wrote: > > ECMP was indeed one of the features i was looking for at that time, which i > > found to be impossible. > > I just don't like the idea of moving towards another platform just for this > > reason, since I'm very happy with freebsd's performance. > > There used to be a patch for ECMP, but it was a huge hack. very dirty at > > best. > > itojun recently committed a set of ECMP related changes to OpenBSD. > Unfortunately I have not had free time to review them in any detail. > > I hope andre@ is watching this thread, it's probably on his laundry list too. > I believe other parties may have implemented the hack you are referring to. Heh. At first I read this and wasn't sure what ECMP was, I've never seen anyone use that acronym before. The code Itojun commited to the OpenBSD tree consisted of code to add multipath support for radix trees. The routing code still needs to be modified to use this new support though. radix tree with multipath support. from kame. deraadt ok user visible changes: - you can add multiple routes with same key (route add A B then route add A C) - you have to specify gateway address if there are multiple entries on the table (route delete A B, instead of route delete A) kernel change: - radix_node_head has an extra entry - rnh_deladdr takes extra argument TODO: - actually take advantage of multipath (rtalloc -> rtalloc_mpath) http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/sys/net/radix.c http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/sys/net/radix_mpath.c From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 22:28:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23ACD16A400; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:28:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [209.31.154.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0AC643D4C; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:28:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [209.31.154.41]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C36A46C1E; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:28:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:29:54 +0000 (GMT) From: Robert Watson X-X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Ross Finlayson In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20060316022816.01d1d1b0@live555.com> Message-ID: <20060316222525.G79209@fledge.watson.org> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20060316022816.01d1d1b0@live555.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's up with all the spam on several FreeBSD mailing lists? X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:28:55 -0000 On Thu, 16 Mar 2006, Ross Finlayson wrote: > What is the reason for the sudden flood of spam on several FreeBSD mailing > lists? Do these lists no longer require that senders be subscribed to the > list? Or are legitimate senders' computers infected with a virus that is > sending the spam in their names? Last weekend, hub.FreeBSD.org, the main FreeBSD mailing list server, blew itself to pieces (literally there were holes in some of the chips). It was running FreeBSD 4.x at the time. The admin team had been preparing to replace it anyway, with a shiny new 6.x system, and had to bring the replacement into service on much shorter notice than expected. As a result there were several nits, one of which was that spamd doesn't/didn't appear to be working properly. I know the admins are looking at it, so if it hasn't already been fixed, it will be shortly. Robert N M Watson From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 22:51:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F25BC16A41F for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:51:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bart@it-ss.be) Received: from piggy.solidweb.be (piggy.web.bru.it-ss.be [195.28.164.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2784543D4C for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:51:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bart@it-ss.be) Received: from bartwrkstxp (97-3.241.81.adsl.skynet.be [81.241.3.97]) (authenticated bits=0) by piggy.solidweb.be (8.12.9-SW.b/8.12.9-SW) with ESMTP id k2GMphvF003497; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:51:43 +0100 Message-ID: <001601c6494c$32f188f0$020b000a@bartwrkstxp> From: "Bart Van Kerckhove" To: "Brad" , "freebsd-net@FreeBSD.org" References: <20060316193740.GE11850@spc.org><003701c64941$ac548540$020b000a@bartwrkstxp><20060316215207.GH11850@spc.org> <20060316222111.GD23644@blar.home.comstyle.com> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:51:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: Subject: Re: OT - Quagga/CARP X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:52:00 -0000 Brad wrote: > On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 09:52:07PM +0000, Bruce M Simpson wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 10:36:20PM +0100, Bart Van Kerckhove wrote: >>> ECMP was indeed one of the features i was looking for at that time, >>> which i found to be impossible. >>> I just don't like the idea of moving towards another platform just >>> for this reason, since I'm very happy with freebsd's performance. >>> There used to be a patch for ECMP, but it was a huge hack. very >>> dirty at best. >> >> itojun recently committed a set of ECMP related changes to OpenBSD. >> Unfortunately I have not had free time to review them in any detail. >> >> I hope andre@ is watching this thread, it's probably on his laundry >> list too. I believe other parties may have implemented the hack you >> are referring to. > > Heh. At first I read this and wasn't sure what ECMP was, I've never > seen anyone use that acronym before. Hmm, sorry if I used a non-common term there, it's the only abbreviation i know of ;> > The code Itojun commited to the > OpenBSD tree consisted of code to add multipath support for radix > trees. The routing code still needs to be modified to use this new > support though. > > > radix tree with multipath support. from kame. deraadt ok > user visible changes: > - you can add multiple routes with same key (route add A B then route > add A C) > - you have to specify gateway address if there are multiple entries > on the table (route delete A B, instead of route delete A) > kernel change: > - radix_node_head has an extra entry > - rnh_deladdr takes extra argument I have looked into KAME before, and was puzzled to see it was in KAME, but not in *bsd :-> > > TODO: > - actually take advantage of multipath (rtalloc -> rtalloc_mpath) > > > http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/sys/net/radix.c > http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/sys/net/radix_mpath.c I have no kernel coding experience whatsoever. How hard would it be to merge this with freebsd? -Bart From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 17 03:18:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 958A916A401 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 03:18:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brad@comstyle.com) Received: from mail.comstyle.com (toronto-hs-216-138-195-228.s-ip.magma.ca [216.138.195.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD1243D46 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 03:18:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brad@comstyle.com) Received: from blar.home.comstyle.com (blar.home.comstyle.com [IPv6:2001:240:589:1::3]) by fubar.home.comstyle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D75FA2E94 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:18:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by blar.home.comstyle.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 64A2137A6C; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:18:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:18:14 -0500 From: Brad To: "freebsd-net@FreeBSD.org" Message-ID: <20060317031814.GI23644@blar.home.comstyle.com> References: <20060316222111.GD23644@blar.home.comstyle.com> <001601c6494c$32f188f0$020b000a@bartwrkstxp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <001601c6494c$32f188f0$020b000a@bartwrkstxp> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Subject: Re: OT - Quagga/CARP X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 03:18:17 -0000 On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 11:51:44PM +0100, Bart Van Kerckhove wrote: > > Heh. At first I read this and wasn't sure what ECMP was, I've never > > seen anyone use that acronym before. > > Hmm, sorry if I used a non-common term there, it's the only abbreviation i > know of ;> I have always just used the expanded form. :) > > The code Itojun commited to the > > OpenBSD tree consisted of code to add multipath support for radix > > trees. The routing code still needs to be modified to use this new > > support though. > > > > > > radix tree with multipath support. from kame. deraadt ok > > user visible changes: > > - you can add multiple routes with same key (route add A B then route > > add A C) > > - you have to specify gateway address if there are multiple entries > > on the table (route delete A B, instead of route delete A) > > kernel change: > > - radix_node_head has an extra entry > > - rnh_deladdr takes extra argument > > I have looked into KAME before, and was puzzled to see it was in KAME, but > not in *bsd :-> There are lots of things in the KAME CVS repo that has not been integrated into any of the *BSD's. > > > > TODO: > > - actually take advantage of multipath (rtalloc -> rtalloc_mpath) > > > > > > http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/sys/net/radix.c > > http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/sys/net/radix_mpath.c > > I have no kernel coding experience whatsoever. How hard would it be to merge > this with freebsd? I am not a FreeBSD developer or even a user for that matter so I cannot really comment. Andre would probably be the best person to comment on how much work would be required to integrate this code. From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 17 12:11:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB31016A401 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 12:11:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from moonbluez@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7707E43D45 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 12:11:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from moonbluez@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s9so418111wxc for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 04:11:14 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=C74Li5lOhbEVp/ANa48xBn8d6xN5dWF29iA3DvaPI2vKeekDnveK713/KDlVpabrgJSVRnF/HuOc5WJqnwp3T6xAXfolzEoEjtee1SlMa/tbAVZ1sQr5PeKpw7WJOz1jHsaRJEcxqgdupMC23NhLujfZ8oB7p4+TaG7GSzZ1jLQ= Received: by 10.70.29.3 with SMTP id c3mr3430387wxc; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 04:11:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.27.13 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 04:11:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1bdd14300603170411t46aa71cdo21f3ce6db910a8e4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 19:11:13 +0700 From: MoonblueZ To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1bdd14300603131935m7166bb05i428cee5b8f1a2585@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1bdd14300603131935m7166bb05i428cee5b8f1a2585@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: arp_rtrequest X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 12:11:15 -0000 On 3/14/06, MoonblueZ wrote: > > i have some log in /var/log/message right this : > > Mar 14 10:44:27 cidomo kernel: arp_rtrequest: bad gateway 202.161.14.115(= !AF_LINK) > Mar 14 10:45:23 cidomo squid[431]: parseHttpRequest: PF open failed: (13) > Permission denied > > i dont know what is mean, anyone can help me? > i have some log in /var/log/message right this : Mar 14 10:44:27 cidomo kernel: arp_rtrequest: bad gateway 202.161.14.115(!AF_LINK) Mar 14 10:45:23 cidomo squid[431]: parseHttpRequest: PF open failed: (13) Permission denied i dont know what is mean, anyone can help me? -- No Rulez No Filterz From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 17 20:51:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B7B16A400 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 20:51:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kan.cai@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF54343D49 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 20:51:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kan.cai@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so673058nzo for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 12:51:28 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=BanHG6fDwR6Y9Cccciu60GK++v90PrxhUJDrEewmeA5fRvSWN6/xygxCrjTzDvIJ2CuM27sYLruTCIvQzmvBLHtZZmeoG/vbFlcck8zF42gkNRF056ceUwBrOgd3HIq88oVDEoYOh6tesnSbtJl4AZ6C5TQP6/rXeVDTICrhbAQ= Received: by 10.37.14.56 with SMTP id r56mr4456033nzi; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 12:51:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.36.38.14 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 12:51:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5365ea660603171251w330dcfbds316e73c83038aa3c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 12:51:27 -0800 From: "Kan Cai" To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Wireless sensing function is missing? X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 20:51:29 -0000 Greetings all: I have been doing some 802.11 wireless experiments, and the reults seem t= o suggest that wireless sensing function is missing. In theory, a wireless device should back off when it senses some signals in the airspace, even if these signals are too weak to capture, just to avoid potential packet drops due to collisions. The experiment I did is to measure the UDP sending and recving rates by putting two wireless nodes on the verge of transmission range, and then putting rectangle garbage bins stuffed with books in front of one wireless node to absorb the signal. Here are the results: # of garbage bins Sending Rate Recving Rate 1 4.77Mbps 3.32Mbps 2 5.83Mbps 2.26Mbps 3 7.73Mbps 0.48Mbps 4 8.18Mbps 0.00Mbps The other wireless node is sending UDP packet at maximum rate 8.2Mbps. Even though the impact of interference weakens as I put more garbage cans= , the sum of the sending rate and receving rate as shown is about 8.1-8.2Mbps= , which suggests that it is not affect by those sensing signals. Otherwise, i= t would back off its transmissions until the network is idle. It can still receive some packets sent by another node, which indicates that it should b= e able to sense most of the signals although it might not be able to receive them. I wonder if this is true that sensing function is missing? If yes, is it supposed to be implemented in the driver or net80211 layer? Thanks in advance! cheers, --ken From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 17 21:32:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96FD016A423 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 21:32:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yb@bashibuzuk.net) Received: from a.6f2.net (a.6f2.net [213.189.5.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D04743D5F for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 21:32:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yb@bashibuzuk.net) Received: by a.6f2.net (Postfix, from userid 66) id D3598BF8D17; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:32:46 +0100 (CET) Received: by cc.bashibuzuk.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 48765BE92; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:32:48 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:32:48 +0100 From: Yann Berthier To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060317213248.GB936@bashibuzuk.net> References: <200603052102.24881.max@love2party.net> <20060308201150.GB20475@laverenz.de> <200603150441.50904.max@love2party.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200603150441.50904.max@love2party.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Subject: Re: New version of iwi(4) - Call for testers X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 21:32:49 -0000 On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, at 04:41, Max Laier wrote: > All, > > the new version at: > http://people.freebsd.org/~mlaier/new_iwi/20060315.both.tgz > > should build for RELENG_6 and HEAD. Make sure to have the latest RELENG_6 > checkout with the taskqueue changes. > > This version supports version 3.0 and version 2.4 firmware. From iwi_fw you > can build and install either version. For 3.0 just #make all install, for > 2.4: #make IWI_FW_VERSION=240 all install This shouldn't make a difference, > though. > > "cmd 0x19" is WME config, by the way. It seems the firmware doesn't like the > sequence we setup the card. > > Please keep testing and post your feedback - thanks. First time ever that i'm able to complete a cvsup (actually, csup now) with iwi(4) . Great work ! Many thanks, - yann From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 17 22:23:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE5BE16A401; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:23:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kcai@cs.ubc.ca) Received: from mail-relay1.cs.ubc.ca (mail-relay1.cs.ubc.ca [142.103.6.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CE5743D48; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:23:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kcai@cs.ubc.ca) Received: from smtp.cs.ubc.ca (smtp.cs.ubc.ca [142.103.6.52]) by mail-relay1.cs.ubc.ca (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2HMNq70031811; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:23:53 -0800 Received: from lore.cs.ubc.ca (lore.cs.ubc.ca [142.103.14.160]) by smtp.cs.ubc.ca (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2HMNqPG016839 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:23:52 -0800 Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:00:28 -0800 (PST) From: Kan Cai To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd-net@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-PMX-Version: 5.0.3.165339, Antispam-Engine: 2.1.0.0, Antispam-Data: 2006.3.17.140606 X-UBCCS-SpamTag: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Cc: Subject: Wireless sensing function is missing? X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:23:53 -0000 Greetings all: Sorry if this is reposting, didn't see my first email got through. I have been doing some 802.11 wireless experiments, and the reults seem to suggest that wireless sensing function is missing. In theory, a wireless device should back off when it senses some signals in the airspace, even if these signals are too weak to capture, just to avoid potential packet drops due to collisions. The experiment I did is to measure the UDP sending and recving rates by putting two wireless nodes on the verge of transmission range, and then putting rectangle garbage bins stuffed with books in front of one wireless node to absorb the signal. Here are the results: # of garbage bins Sending Rate Recving Rate 1 4.77Mbps 3.32Mbps 2 5.83Mbps 2.26Mbps 3 7.73Mbps 0.48Mbps 4 8.18Mbps 0.00Mbps The other wireless node is sending UDP packet at maximum rate 8.2Mbps. Even though the impact of interference weakens as I put more garbage cans, the sum of the sending rate and receving rate as shown is about 8.1-8.2Mbps, which suggests that it is not affect by those sensing signals. Otherwise, it would back off its transmissions until the network is idle. It can still receive some packets sent by another node, which indicates that it should be able to sense most of the signals although it might not be able to receive them. I wonder if this is true that sensing function is missing? If yes, is it supposed to be implemented in the driver or net80211 layer? 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 04:30:25 -0000 On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 02:00:28PM -0800, Kan Cai wrote: > I wonder if this is true that sensing function is missing? If yes, is it > supposed to be implemented in the driver or net80211 layer? Thanks in > advance! It's a function of the 802.11 hardware. I assume you're describing the CSMA/CA technique. The Coordination Function (CF) in use will also have an effect but you don't specify if you're in IBSS or EBSS mode. How are you getting these figures anyway? Regards, BMS From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 18 05:36:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD7816A400; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 05:36:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kcai@cs.ubc.ca) Received: from mail-relay1.cs.ubc.ca (mail-relay1.cs.ubc.ca [142.103.6.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 296AD43D48; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 05:36:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kcai@cs.ubc.ca) Received: from smtp.cs.ubc.ca (smtp.cs.ubc.ca [142.103.6.52]) by mail-relay1.cs.ubc.ca (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2I5aBxx029623; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 21:36:11 -0800 Received: from granville.cs.ubc.ca (granville.cs.ubc.ca [142.103.7.20]) by smtp.cs.ubc.ca (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2I5aBT5006199 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 17 Mar 2006 21:36:11 -0800 Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 21:36:11 -0800 (PST) From: Kan Cai To: Bruce M Simpson In-Reply-To: <20060318043019.GR37590@spc.org> Message-ID: References: <20060318043019.GR37590@spc.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-PMX-Version: 5.0.3.165339, Antispam-Engine: 2.1.0.0, Antispam-Data: 2006.02.13.071104 X-UBCCS-SpamTag: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __STOCK_CRUFT 0' Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless sensing function is missing? X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 05:36:14 -0000 On Sat, 18 Mar 2006, Bruce M Simpson wrote: > On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 02:00:28PM -0800, Kan Cai wrote: >> I wonder if this is true that sensing function is missing? If yes, is it >> supposed to be implemented in the driver or net80211 layer? Thanks in >> advance! > > It's a function of the 802.11 hardware. I assume you're describing the > CSMA/CA technique. The Coordination Function (CF) in use will also have > an effect but you don't specify if you're in IBSS or EBSS mode. Yes, I meant CSMA. But I was actually using ralink card, which has 802.11 firmware implemented in open source. I am aware that freebsd has a 80211 layer as well. So before I dig into the source, I would appreciate it if anyone can let me know where CSMA is implemented, in the driver or net80211 provided by freebsd. I tried both ad hoc mode and hostap mode, btw. > > How are you getting these figures anyway? I use two threads broadcasting and receiving packets, and measure their rates every 10 seconds. Two nodes are put on the edge of transmission range, and then put garbage cans filled with paper (water might be better) around one node so that they can absorb signals and interfere the signal propagation. This was just trying to verify if CSMA actually works. But as the data suggests that it seems that sensing isn't in place. Thanks, --ken > > Regards, > BMS > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 18 06:15:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80C3A16A422 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 06:15:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael@staff.openaccess.org) Received: from smtp.openaccess.org (smtp.openaccess.org [66.165.52.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DC6843D58 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 06:15:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from michael@staff.openaccess.org) Received: from [10.0.1.6] (unknown [216.57.214.93]) by smtp.openaccess.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EFAC6D4717; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:15:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20060316193740.GE11850@spc.org> References: <014e01c64928$6107abd0$020b000a@bartwrkstxp> <20060316193740.GE11850@spc.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Michael DeMan Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:15:42 -0800 To: Bruce M Simpson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Cc: "freebsd-net@FreeBSD.org" , Bart Van Kerckhove Subject: Re: OT - Quagga/CARP X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 06:15:43 -0000 Hi All, Thanks for the information. This is a huge problem for me, we badly need redundancy capabilities. I'm surprised something like this hasn't been addressed long ago. I guess a lot of the focus is on SMP and 'big servers' and not router/appliance functionality in the newer FBSD releases. Anyway, thanks very much for the information. I'm going to have to figure out some kind of workaround on my architecture. In the worst case, I can shut off OSPF on the edge routers and use static routes upstream and OSPF from there, but that is going to be a real nightmare for network maintenance over the long haul. Thanks for the information anyway. This has been driving me nuts the past few months. - mike On Mar 16, 2006, at 11:37 AM, Bruce M Simpson wrote: > On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 07:35:20PM +0100, Bart Van Kerckhove wrote: >> Is this by design, or just lack of time/interest? >> If anyone feels up to the task of fixing/implementing what's >> needed to make >> this work, we'd be happy to sponsor its development. > > This is a collision between the connected route implicitly created > by configuring an interface which has the same prefix length as > an existing route in the FreeBSD FIB. > > This is a known issue and is by design. > > Most BSD-derived implementations have this limitation. It needs to be > resolved in preparation for equal-cost multipath. > > Sadly whilst I'd be more than happy to work on this (with or without > funding), I don't have the free time to do so, but I may be able to > eke out spare time to look at patches. > > Regards, > BMS > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 18 06:20:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3D016A401 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 06:20:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael@staff.openaccess.org) Received: from smtp.openaccess.org (smtp.openaccess.org [66.165.52.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DFAB43D45 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 06:20:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from michael@staff.openaccess.org) Received: from [10.0.1.6] (unknown [216.57.214.93]) by smtp.openaccess.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 319476D47E1; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:20:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <003701c64941$ac548540$020b000a@bartwrkstxp> References: <014e01c64928$6107abd0$020b000a@bartwrkstxp> <20060316193740.GE11850@spc.org> <003701c64941$ac548540$020b000a@bartwrkstxp> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) X-Priority: 3 Message-Id: <22859DD9-C25D-4B94-B672-71007C572324@staff.openaccess.org> From: Michael DeMan Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:20:21 -0800 To: Bart Van Kerckhove X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-net@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: OT - Quagga/CARP X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 06:20:07 -0000 On Mar 16, 2006, at 1:36 PM, Bart Van Kerckhove wrote: > Any quick hacks you have in mind that could allow multiple copies > of the > same route / pfxlen in the freebsd routingtable? > Doesn't even need to have metrics in kernel-level, the point of the > whole > thing (for now) would be to be able to insert an additional route > with the > same prefix, and delete the previousy set route *afterwards*. Which > is what > ospfd/zebra would do. > Any insights / hacks / other dirty things are very appreciated. > For all others following this thread: "we'd be happy to sponsor its > development" still is in effect ;) > > Met vriendelijke groet / With kind regards, Yes, this kind of patch would work for me. I would expect anybody running BGP/OSPF/RIP will have an external process injecting routes into the local table. I can help with testing. - mike From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 18 11:44:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1725C16A422; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 11:44:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oxy@field.hu) Received: from green.field.hu (green.field.hu [217.20.130.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6F343D48; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 11:44:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oxy@field.hu) Received: from localhost (green.field.hu [217.20.130.28]) by green.field.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77A53119CF5; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 12:43:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from green.field.hu ([217.20.130.28]) by localhost (green.field.hu [217.20.130.28]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 47312-08; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 12:43:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from oxy (dsl217-197-187-71.pool.tvnet.hu [217.197.187.71]) by green.field.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B75B2119CC4; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 12:43:38 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <000a01c64a81$45eb6850$0201a8c0@oxy> From: "OxY" To: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 12:44:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-Virus-Scanned: by Amavisd-new (Spamassassin+Razor2+Pyzor+DCC+Bayes db, Clamd Antivirus) at field.hu Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Subject: packet drop with intel gigabit / marwell gigabit X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 11:44:13 -0000 hi! i had the packet drop problem with the marwell yukon gigabitcard: (system is an amd 2000+xp, 512mb ram, fbsd 6.0-p5) when the apache ran, with no http, just used to share files and the = traffic was 2-2,5MB/S i had 14-17% packet drop on the gigabit interface.. with the sysctl i succesfully pulled it down to 12-14%, but it was = terrible,=20 so i bought an intel pro/1000 gt. with this i have 3-6% drop with same traffic load on the other = interface.. when i stop the apache packet drop falls down to 0-0.1%, which is great. but with apache it's terrible.. first i changed some sysctl settings, benchmarked all change with iperf (udp test).i changed these: kern.maxfiles=3D65536 kern.ipc.maxsockbuf=3D50000000 kern.ipc.nmbclusters=3D5000000 kern.ipc.somaxconn=3D4096 net.inet.tcp.inflight.enable=3D1 net.inet.tcp.inflight.max=3D10737254400 net.inet.tcp.recvspace=3D65536 kern.ipc.shmmax=3D409600000 net.inet.tcp.delayed_ack=3D0 kern.polling.burst_max=3D1000 kern.polling.each_burst=3D120 kern.polling.idle_poll=3D1 kern.polling.user_frac=3D5 kern.polling.reg_frac=3D50 kern.polling.enable=3D1 net.inet.udp.maxdgram=3D57344 i have three variables in load.conf: kern.ipc.maxsockets=3D"81920" kern.maxusers=3D"512" kern.ipc.nsfbufs=3D"65536" then i tried 4BSD and ULE scheduler, ULE was better, but i accept any = suggestion and tip :) and after all i realized that it's not a bit better, than before... please give me some hints, advices, tips, sysctl settings, kernel config = parameters, anything to get rid of the packet loss.. here's my kernel config: http://field.hu/kernconf.txt thanks! From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 18 13:45:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CFC116A400 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 13:45:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oxy@field.hu) Received: from green.field.hu (green.field.hu [217.20.130.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D9C343D46 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 13:45:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oxy@field.hu) Received: from localhost (green.field.hu [217.20.130.28]) by green.field.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0437A119D2E for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 14:45:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from green.field.hu ([217.20.130.28]) by localhost (green.field.hu [217.20.130.28]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 59800-04 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 14:45:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from oxy (dsl217-197-187-71.pool.tvnet.hu [217.197.187.71]) by green.field.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3FCA119CC4 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 14:45:00 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001001c64a92$3ab18170$0201a8c0@oxy> From: "OxY" To: References: <000a01c64a81$45eb6850$0201a8c0@oxy> <441BF838.1080600@mac.com><000601c64a87$51d7dee0$0201a8c0@oxy> <441BFF26.90807@mac.com> <000e01c64a8f$1b2bec80$0201a8c0@oxy> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 14:45:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-2"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-Virus-Scanned: by Amavisd-new (Spamassassin+Razor2+Pyzor+DCC+Bayes db, Clamd Antivirus) at field.hu Subject: Re: packet drop with intel gigabit / marwell gigabit X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 13:45:34 -0000 i increased hz from 2000 to 5000, now the packet loss is decreased from 5-6% to 0.6-0,8% !!! huge improve! should i increase hz more? ----- Original Message ----- From: "OxY" To: "Chuck Swiger" Cc: Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 2:23 PM Subject: Re: packet drop with intel gigabit / marwell gigabit > currently i use HZ=2000 > here's the output of netstat -i, -s, and vmstat -i : > (currently i am uploading on the gigabit with ftp, 3 threads) > > Field root# vmstat -i > interrupt total rate > irq0: clk 27503959 1993 > irq1: atkbd0 1 0 > irq3: fxp0 2 0 > irq7: 146 0 > stray irq7 146 0 > irq8: rtc 1765569 127 > irq10: atapci1 2807786 203 > irq11: atapci0 475039 34 > irq13: npx0 1 0 > irq14: ata0 99 0 > Total 32552748 2359 > > Field root# netstat -i > Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs > Coll > fxp0 1500 00:a0:c9:8d:79:68 13163545 0 21899372 1 > 0 > fxp0 1500 195.38.96.64/ field 141 - > 6 - - > em0 1500 00:0e:0c:a2:ac:42 68644181 4 66793904 0 > 0 > em0 1500 195.38.96.64/ field 211255811 - > - - > lo0 16384 129622061 0 129622061 > 0 0 > > netstat -s is here: > http://field.hu/netstat.txt > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chuck Swiger" > To: "OxY" > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 1:37 PM > Subject: Re: packet drop with intel gigabit / marwell gigabit > > >> OxY wrote: >>> yeah, i googled these settings, but i put them back to default then! >>> i measured iperf performance, and it showed that the packet drop is >>> depending on the system load.. >> >> If you are using the normal interrupt-driven configuration, you should >> look at >> netstat -i, -s, and vmstat -i. If you're turning on device polling, you >> ought >> to retry your testing at higher HZ (try 2000 or 5000): >> >> echo 'kern.hz="2000"' >> /boot/loader.conf >> >> -- >> -Chuck > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-performance@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-performance > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-performance-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 18 16:03:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D55A716A401 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 16:03:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Received: from ebb.errno.com (ebb.errno.com [69.12.149.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8884243D45 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 16:03:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Received: from [10.0.0.248] (trouble.errno.com [10.0.0.248]) (authenticated bits=0) by ebb.errno.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k2IG2so7037054 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 18 Mar 2006 08:02:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Message-ID: <441C300F.3020900@errno.com> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 08:06:39 -0800 From: Sam Leffler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kan Cai References: <20060318043019.GR37590@spc.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless sensing function is missing? X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 16:03:01 -0000 Kan Cai wrote: > > > On Sat, 18 Mar 2006, Bruce M Simpson wrote: > >> On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 02:00:28PM -0800, Kan Cai wrote: >>> I wonder if this is true that sensing function is missing? If yes, >>> is it >>> supposed to be implemented in the driver or net80211 layer? Thanks in >>> advance! >> >> It's a function of the 802.11 hardware. I assume you're describing the >> CSMA/CA technique. The Coordination Function (CF) in use will also have >> an effect but you don't specify if you're in IBSS or EBSS mode. > > Yes, I meant CSMA. But I was actually using ralink card, which has > 802.11 firmware implemented in open source. I am aware that freebsd has > a 80211 layer as well. So before I dig into the source, I would > appreciate it if anyone can let me know where CSMA is implemented, in > the driver or net80211 provided by freebsd. > > I tried both ad hoc mode and hostap mode, btw. DCF is implemented in hardware. Carrier sense is part of that. Sam