From owner-freebsd-proliant@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 17 13:17:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F359D16A420 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 13:17:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nocturnal@swehack.se) Received: from perl.se (perl.se [82.99.44.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E917F43D53 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 13:17:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nocturnal@swehack.se) Received: from mail2.swebase.com (mail2.swebase.com [82.99.44.25]) by perl.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1HDPVBw008527 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:25:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from [82.99.47.5] by mail2.swebase.com (MDaemon.PRO.v8.1.0.R) with ESMTP id 05-md50000003700.msg for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:15:51 +0100 Message-ID: <43F5CC7F.7010304@swehack.se> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:15:43 +0100 From: nocturnal User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Processed: mail2.swebase.com, Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:15:51 +0100 (not processed: message from trusted or authenticated source) X-MDRemoteIP: 82.99.47.5 X-Return-Path: nocturnal@swehack.se X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org Subject: HP Proliant SATA RAID Cards for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Technical discussion of FreeBSD on HP ProLiant server platforms." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 13:17:22 -0000 Hi I need to buy a server from a HP partner for a customer and we don't need hardware RAID but we would prefer it. We do need SATA because of budget restrictions. I'm new to hardware and i don't know much at all about SATA or SATA RAID. I've had only bad experience with SATA RAID cards using FreeBSD where disk writes timed out and made the system hang repeatedly. They offer mainly Proliant machines and i'm wondering which cards you guys have experience with working well on FreeBSD. We will be using 6.0-RELEASE for the operatingsystem. We could also accept software RAID if it comes to that, all we need to know is that it will work without problems and be stable for a production environment. If any of you feel kind enough to recommend a machine for me then the required specs are at least two cpu slots with one Intel Xeon processor of at least 2.0GHz. At least 512MB ram and at least 40GB disks in hardware raid of course. SCSI disks would be great if the price is right but SATA disks are recommended because of limited ammounts of resources. -- Med vänliga hälsningar Stefan Midjich aka nocturnal [Swehack] http://swehack.se From owner-freebsd-proliant@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 17 13:35:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5F4A16A420 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 13:35:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rainer@ultra-secure.de) Received: from bsd.ultra-secure.de (bsd.ultra-secure.de [62.146.20.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F33EB43D45 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 13:35:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rainer@ultra-secure.de) Received: (qmail 61037 invoked by uid 89); 17 Feb 2006 13:35:37 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 60994, pid: 61013, t: 1.2627s scanners: attach: 1.1.0 clamav: 0.86.2/m:33/d:1045 spam: 3.0.4 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.100.179?) (rainer@ultra-secure.de@217.71.84.110) by bsd.ultra-secure.de with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 17 Feb 2006 13:35:35 -0000 Message-ID: <43F5D124.8020402@ultra-secure.de> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:35:32 +0100 From: Rainer Duffner User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nocturnal References: <43F5CC7F.7010304@swehack.se> In-Reply-To: <43F5CC7F.7010304@swehack.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on bsd.ultra-secure.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.4 Cc: freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP Proliant SATA RAID Cards for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Technical discussion of FreeBSD on HP ProLiant server platforms." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 13:35:42 -0000 nocturnal wrote: > Hi > [snip] I don't think HP resells or OEMs 3Ware or Areca, controllers? How many disks do you need? 1? 2? 4? 6? Rainer From owner-freebsd-proliant@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 17 13:52:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEFEC16A420 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 13:52:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nocturnal@swehack.se) Received: from perl.se (perl.se [82.99.44.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D07C243D48 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 13:52:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nocturnal@swehack.se) Received: from mail2.swebase.com (mail2.swebase.com [82.99.44.25]) by perl.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1HE0vnF002700 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 15:00:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from [82.99.47.5] by mail2.swebase.com (MDaemon.PRO.v8.1.0.R) with ESMTP id 03-md50000003711.msg for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:51:47 +0100 Message-ID: <43F5D4ED.4090603@swehack.se> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:51:41 +0100 From: nocturnal User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rainer Duffner References: <43F5CC7F.7010304@swehack.se> <43F5D124.8020402@ultra-secure.de> In-Reply-To: <43F5D124.8020402@ultra-secure.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Processed: mail2.swebase.com, Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:51:47 +0100 (not processed: message from trusted or authenticated source) X-MDRemoteIP: 82.99.47.5 X-Return-Path: nocturnal@swehack.se X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP Proliant SATA RAID Cards for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Technical discussion of FreeBSD on HP ProLiant server platforms." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 13:52:33 -0000 Hi 2 mirrored disks only. I heard on IRC that Areca was good, i will make sure to ask the reseller if i can get an Areca card. Med vänliga hälsningar Stefan Midjich aka nocturnal [Swehack] http://swehack.se Rainer Duffner wrote: > nocturnal wrote: > >> Hi >> > [snip] > > I don't think HP resells or OEMs 3Ware or Areca, controllers? > > How many disks do you need? 1? 2? 4? 6? > > > > Rainer From owner-freebsd-proliant@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 17 13:54:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4617A16A420 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 13:54:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nocturnal@swehack.se) Received: from perl.se (perl.se [82.99.44.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 989D943D45 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 13:54:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nocturnal@swehack.se) Received: from mail2.swebase.com (mail2.swebase.com [82.99.44.25]) by perl.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1HE32pT021901 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 15:03:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from [82.99.47.5] by mail2.swebase.com (MDaemon.PRO.v8.1.0.R) with ESMTP id 23-md50000003705.msg for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:52:39 +0100 Message-ID: <43F5D51B.9060301@swehack.se> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:52:27 +0100 From: nocturnal User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rainer Duffner References: <43F5CC7F.7010304@swehack.se> <43F5D124.8020402@ultra-secure.de> In-Reply-To: <43F5D124.8020402@ultra-secure.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Processed: mail2.swebase.com, Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:52:39 +0100 (not processed: message from trusted or authenticated source) X-MDRemoteIP: 82.99.47.5 X-Return-Path: nocturnal@swehack.se X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP Proliant SATA RAID Cards for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Technical discussion of FreeBSD on HP ProLiant server platforms." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 13:54:48 -0000 Hi I'm sorry. I thought maybe i was a bit unclear. We need one mirrored disk, two physical disks. Med vänliga hälsningar Stefan Midjich aka nocturnal [Swehack] http://swehack.se Rainer Duffner wrote: > nocturnal wrote: > >> Hi >> > [snip] > > I don't think HP resells or OEMs 3Ware or Areca, controllers? > > How many disks do you need? 1? 2? 4? 6? > > > > Rainer From owner-freebsd-proliant@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 17 14:02:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D1016A420 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:02:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rainer@ultra-secure.de) Received: from bsd.ultra-secure.de (bsd.ultra-secure.de [62.146.20.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6DA343D58 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:02:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rainer@ultra-secure.de) Received: (qmail 63459 invoked by uid 89); 17 Feb 2006 14:02:55 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 63453, pid: 63455, t: 1.2062s scanners: attach: 1.1.0 clamav: 0.86.2/m:33/d:1045 spam: 3.0.4 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.100.179?) (rainer@ultra-secure.de@217.71.84.110) by bsd.ultra-secure.de with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 17 Feb 2006 14:02:54 -0000 Message-ID: <43F5D78E.60106@ultra-secure.de> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 15:02:54 +0100 From: Rainer Duffner User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org References: <43F5CC7F.7010304@swehack.se> <43F5D124.8020402@ultra-secure.de> <43F5D4ED.4090603@swehack.se> In-Reply-To: <43F5D4ED.4090603@swehack.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on bsd.ultra-secure.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.4 Subject: Re: HP Proliant SATA RAID Cards for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Technical discussion of FreeBSD on HP ProLiant server platforms." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:02:59 -0000 nocturnal wrote: > Hi > > 2 mirrored disks only. I heard on IRC that Areca was good, i will make > sure to ask the reseller if i can get an Areca card. > > I think they only sell 4-port and up. For non-raid5, 3Ware is good enough, I think. The larger Areca-cards can do RAID6, which gives more redundancy and a performance-boost during array-rebuilds. They also have an optional battery-backed-cache, which is lacking on smaller 3Ware cards. But this has got nothing to do with Proliants per-se ;-) I'd try to get a Proliant with SCSI and ZeroChannel RAID. cheers, Rainer