From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 08:48:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC0A016A400 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 08:48:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kama@pvp.se) Received: from ms1.as.pvp.se (dns.pvp.se [213.64.187.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4269D43D48 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 08:48:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kama@pvp.se) Received: by ms1.as.pvp.se (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B8FEFA7; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 10:48:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ms1.as.pvp.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id B425CA6; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 10:48:40 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 10:48:40 +0200 (CEST) From: kama X-X-Sender: kama@ns1.as.pvp.se To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <20060405205005.GA29124@xor.obsecurity.org> Message-ID: <20060416101154.J97042@ns1.as.pvp.se> References: <20060405200341.GD14126@math.jussieu.fr> <20060405200727.GA28371@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060405201500.GE14126@math.jussieu.fr> <20060405202100.GA28626@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060405203741.GF14126@math.jussieu.fr> <20060405205005.GA29124@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Albert Shih Subject: Re: Disappointed X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 08:48:45 -0000 On Wed, 5 Apr 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 10:37:41PM +0200, Albert Shih wrote: > > > OK I just do it. I just hope the maintainer can understand me... > > > > > > > > As a first step: you say your server crashed. Did it panic? Do you > > > have debugging settings (INVARIANTS, WITNESS) enabled? Do you have > > > DDB enabled? Read through the chapter on kernel debugging in the > > > developers' handbook and reconfigure your kernel accordingly, then > > > proceed from there. > > > > Well it's no so easy. I can try but there least 600 users waiting the big > > fsck when the server crash. I'm not sure I can spend many time to try > > this.. But I promise you I will try. > > Thanks. You need to evaluate whether it's more important for you to > try to get the problem fixed, or to keep dealing with the downtime > from the crashes. Trying to reproduce on a test machine is also a > good idea. > > Unfortunately, debugging system problems does take work, but at the > same time if you can't put the work in, it's not so likely you'll be > able to resolve the problem. > > > NB: Why this kind of problem can happen ? I ask this because until 6. I > > never have this kind of problem. > > All software has bugs, and sometimes hardware has bugs too. I can not provide you much either... But I have similar problem. But for me it crashes within a couple of days. The system is a HP Proliant DL380 G3. Which mean it runs ciss(4) and bge(4). Its a generic SMP kernel, but I have tried without SMP enabled before. The system is running the news software Diablo and are set up as a feeder. Give or take aprox 100 incoming connections feeding aprox 200Mbp and 20 outgoing feeding aprox 200Mbps. I have tried to follow the docs about creating a dump into /var/crash. But there is none to be seen. Perhaps I have missed something, or it is actually not created. I will go through those again once I am back at work on tuesday. It feels like its just freezes and reboots without any warnings at all. If someone will give me a simple step by step walkthrough, I can make it in whatever way you want me to. /Bjorn