From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 9 03:07:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 130CE16A405 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 03:07:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sailorfred@yahoo.com) Received: from web31802.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web31802.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.207.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9E8A843D46 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 03:07:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sailorfred@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 61166 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Apr 2006 03:07:41 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=0qzzZZ+dPfKZb1ieWaGdCRVAuupziJ+9BO1Hi7FBLb47j0aGzNOTayACPrj6IuNA7TzTNOM/efnodDpUSLUWwg/2Esi37ekeFlTxMMCzGziH6KLYWkbM3DWryvEZx/dX/pytziXY5d88AboEstkf2oxwmUsFW3Jn9JnfFD+C1PU= ; Message-ID: <20060409030741.61164.qmail@web31802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.198.177.76] by web31802.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 20:07:41 PDT Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 20:07:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Fred Cox To: Eric Anholt In-Reply-To: <1144538161.7017.92.camel@leguin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, Jason Morgan Subject: Re: X troubles (possibly radeon related) X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 03:07:42 -0000 --- Eric Anholt wrote: > On Sat, 2006-04-08 at 12:58 -0700, Fred Cox wrote: > > Several people have reported problems with X.org > 6.9 > > and Radeon X300, which were "solved" by going back > to > > 6.8.2. This includes total machine lockup with > the > > default vga driver as well as various ati and > radeon > > drivers. > > > > Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any > visible > > action on the problem. I get no response when I > email > > the Xorg maintainer. > > > > I don't think they want to believe they've broken > > something. They want to blame the drivers. > > I did respond to your email. I don't have any > response from you. I found this message in Yahoo's (overly agressive) bulk folder, but nothing else from you. Could you resend? > Your > (private, for some unknown reason) I didn't want to clutter the list if you were working on it. If you prefer mailing list contact, I'll try to remember that. > message gave a > line with "vga0" from > dmesg that's irrelevant to X's behavior, making me > suspect that you were > still using the radeon driver in X, not vga as you > claimed. I never told FreeBSD to use the Radeon driver, and since it doesn't mention radeon in dmesg, I assumed that was what's going on. For people who aren't as deeply steeped in the code, can you tell us how to tell which driver is being used? > The radeon > driver in 6.9 (as with 6.8.2, 6.8.1, 6.8.0, 6.7.0, > XFree86 4.4, etc.) > had major issues. The major issues have changed > from release to > release, as fixes were applied for some chipset that > broke another. > It's really actually hard to get this memory mapping > stuff right for > ATI. It's quite possible that benh has fixed them > now in the latest > releases of the ATI driver -- he's studied the > problems more in-depth > than anyone before, so the latest radeon driver is > probably good when > combined with a good DRM and good DRI drivers. Are these required for simple 2D X interactions, such as fluxbox and Firefox would use? > We > have none of these in > FreeBSD currently. > Is there any plan to get this stuff fixed? I am a competent engineer, so given direction, I can help debug, or give remote access to the machine, but I have full time job and other claims on my time that keeps me from digging into it all on my own. Fred > -- > Eric Anholt anholt@FreeBSD.org > eric@anholt.net > eric.anholt@intel.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com