From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 15 00:13:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED0D316A400 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:13:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from soralx@cydem.org) Received: from pd3mo2so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD2FF13C448 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:13:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from soralx@cydem.org) Received: from pd3mr3so.prod.shaw.ca (pd3mr3so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.179]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JGI001IAJAGZMC0@l-daemon> for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 18:13:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml8so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.152]) by pd3mr3so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JGI00IBGJAF0NJ0@pd3mr3so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 18:13:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from soralx.cydem.org ([24.87.27.3]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JGI005RRJAE3SG1@l-daemon> for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 18:13:27 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 17:13:27 -0700 From: soralx@cydem.org In-reply-to: <86d526r0n8.fsf@dwp.des.no> To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Message-id: <20070414171327.4c76671a@soralx.cydem.org> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.1 (GTK+ 2.10.11; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <200704141535363203745@wyatt672earp.force9.co.uk> <20070414162128.435e4bf0@soralx.cydem.org> <86d526r0n8.fsf@dwp.des.no> Cc: mitchell@wyatt672earp.force9.co.uk Subject: Re: Seeking Monsieur Joliet X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:13:28 -0000 > > In addition (or perhaps as a consequence) Joliet really screws up > > file permissions, flags, UID/GID. > Joliet doesn't care about any of these, it's simply an extension of > ISO 9660 which allows names of up to 64 UCS-2 characters. If you want > permissions and ownership, use RockRidge (or both - they coexist well) But RockRidge already takes care of "long" filenames, doens't it? > DES [SorAlx] ridin' VN1500-B2 From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 15 01:30:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5757716A400 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 01:30:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd001@freeode.co.uk) Received: from mail.freeode.co.uk (mail.freeode.co.uk [87.127.24.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE72D13C46C for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 01:30:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd001@freeode.co.uk) Received: from lexx.freeode.co.uk (lexx.freeode.co.uk [10.10.10.2]) by mail.freeode.co.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l3F1UpRG031072 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 02:30:51 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd001@freeode.co.uk) From: John Murphy To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 02:30:51 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Ubuntu stole my FreeBSD... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd001@freeode.co.uk List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 01:30:53 -0000 But thanks to the FAQ entry on booting FreeBSD and Linux using GRUB at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#GRUB-LOADER I was able to get it back again (except the file which I edited was /boot/grub/menu.lst). I had resisted the temptation to install any Linux flavour for many years, but all the talk about Ubuntu had me intrigued. So I decided to install Xubuntu on my old Packard Bell Easynote. It can only do 800x600 so the first surprise was that the buttons to proceed from Ubiquity's location chooser dialogue were hidden behind the lower task bar. The window could not be re-sized or scrolled and it took me a while to work out how to move the task bar to the side. The problem would be much worse for anyone restricted to 640x480 and I was surprised to find the bug was first reported over a year ago! The laptop previously triple booted Windows 2000, FreeBSD and NetBSD and the fourth primary partition was reserved for data. The NetBSD slice was to be overwritten with the new installation. Had to create an 'extended' partition in place of the NetBSD one and then make a swap and ext2 file system within it. It was going to create mount points for my FAT slices, which I didn't particularly want, so I deleted those and found I had to return to the gpart screen and do it all again because it insisted on mounting those slices. I would have been quite happy to leave the boot manager as it was and add an entry for the new OS, but there was no option to do so and, even though the Windows installation was recognised and an entry in the boot manager was created, the FreeBSD one was not. The installation was successful, but it seems odd to not have a root user. To make the changes to grub required a command like: 'sudo editor /boot/grub/menu.lst' and then the unprivileged user pw. I must admit it looks nice, but the only thing it'll get used for is creating ext2 file systems on Compact Flash cards destined for my Psion 5mx. Couldn't find a way to do that from Free. -- Thanks, John. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 15 02:51:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBBAD16A400 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 02:51:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@HiWAAY.net) Received: from bee.hiwaay.net (bee.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C2513C480 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 02:51:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@HiWAAY.net) Received: from [10.0.0.2] ([216.186.148.249]) (authenticated bits=0) by bee.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l3F2jEId1072834 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 21:45:16 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <462044E1.8020406@highperformance.net> References: <2a4057fc0704131021t60249c62k4107ee6cf9f1fb8f@mail.gmail.com> <461FC78B.3070300@daleco.biz> <20070413204942.GA26716@rfc822.net> <200704140206.04367.danny@ricin.com> <462044E1.8020406@highperformance.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <4A63E60F-FD0E-48A3-ACA1-A748C4E966E7@HiWAAY.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Kelly Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 21:45:42 -0500 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Subject: Re: I like Ubuntu X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 02:51:51 -0000 On Apr 13, 2007, at 10:05 PM, Jason C. Wells wrote: >>> The answer to this question is, always has been, and always will be: >>> >>> http://www.xs4all.nl/~marcone/bsdversuslinux.html >>> >> Just my EUR 0.02. Perhaps even informative... >> > He obviously didn't read the link. *Read*? There were words? Oh, there were two words, missed those the first time. Of 6 visible faces in the picture on the right, 4 look related (white shirts, no tie). Was that intended to represent the multitude of Linux distributions? :-) -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 15 02:54:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0194C16A404 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 02:54:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@HiWAAY.net) Received: from bee.hiwaay.net (bee.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF66E13C484 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 02:54:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@HiWAAY.net) Received: from [10.0.0.2] ([216.186.148.249]) (authenticated bits=0) by bee.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l3F2dOa61067757 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 21:39:25 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <200704140206.04367.danny@ricin.com> References: <2a4057fc0704131021t60249c62k4107ee6cf9f1fb8f@mail.gmail.com> <461FC78B.3070300@daleco.biz> <20070413204942.GA26716@rfc822.net> <200704140206.04367.danny@ricin.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <4DF95FFA-3324-4AFF-B59F-AAC37C1C2DDF@HiWAAY.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Kelly Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 21:39:54 -0500 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Subject: Re: I like Ubuntu X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 02:54:24 -0000 On Apr 13, 2007, at 7:06 PM, Danny Pansters wrote: > But yeah if I just want a *NIX desktop that does everything I'd use > [k]ubuntu > or another GUI based distro (knoppix or derivative, or other), or > if I want > to spend some more time and tune it (and then maybe clone the > setups): Arch > or Debian or Gentoo. Or if you want one that does everything with minimal fuss there is this BSD system: http://www.apple.com/macosx/ -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 15 15:00:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D750616A400 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 15:00:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from services.tcbug.org (softlink-dsl-host82.dsl.visi.com [208.42.148.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C17913C45E for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 15:00:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: by services.tcbug.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2E7909B41E; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 09:42:18 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 09:42:18 -0500 From: Josh Paetzel To: John Murphy Message-ID: <20070415144218.GA10621@tcbug.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ubuntu stole my FreeBSD... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Josh Paetzel List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 15:00:46 -0000 John Murphy wrote: > But thanks to the FAQ entry on booting FreeBSD and Linux using GRUB > at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#GRUB-LOADER > I was able to get it back again (except the file which I edited was > /boot/grub/menu.lst). > > I had resisted the temptation to install any Linux flavour for many > years, but all the talk about Ubuntu had me intrigued. So I decided > to install Xubuntu on my old Packard Bell Easynote. It can only do > 800x600 so the first surprise was that the buttons to proceed from > Ubiquity's location chooser dialogue were hidden behind the lower > task bar. The window could not be re-sized or scrolled and it took > me a while to work out how to move the task bar to the side. The > problem would be much worse for anyone restricted to 640x480 and I > was surprised to find the bug was first reported over a year ago! > > The laptop previously triple booted Windows 2000, FreeBSD and NetBSD > and the fourth primary partition was reserved for data. The NetBSD > slice was to be overwritten with the new installation. Had to create > an 'extended' partition in place of the NetBSD one and then make a > swap and ext2 file system within it. It was going to create mount > points for my FAT slices, which I didn't particularly want, so I > deleted those and found I had to return to the gpart screen and do > it all again because it insisted on mounting those slices. > > I would have been quite happy to leave the boot manager as it was > and add an entry for the new OS, but there was no option to do so > and, even though the Windows installation was recognised and an > entry in the boot manager was created, the FreeBSD one was not. > > The installation was successful, but it seems odd to not have a root > user. To make the changes to grub required a command like: > > 'sudo editor /boot/grub/menu.lst' and then the unprivileged user pw. > > I must admit it looks nice, but the only thing it'll get used for is > creating ext2 file systems on Compact Flash cards destined for my > Psion 5mx. Couldn't find a way to do that from Free. > > -- > Thanks, John. I don't suppose you ever tried sysutils/e2fsprogs? I've been able to create ext2 filesystems with it in the past on FBSD. -- Thanks, Josh Paetzel From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 15 22:22:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC43516A406 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:22:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 243CB13C46A for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:22:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (dialup130.ach.sch.gr [81.186.70.130]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id l3FMKsua016174 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 16 Apr 2007 01:21:34 +0300 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l3FMKjpx006820; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 01:20:47 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l3FLSTKo006535; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:28:29 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:28:29 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: soralx@cydem.org Message-ID: <20070415212829.GA6512@kobe.laptop> References: <200704141535363203745@wyatt672earp.force9.co.uk> <20070414162128.435e4bf0@soralx.cydem.org> <86d526r0n8.fsf@dwp.des.no> <20070414171327.4c76671a@soralx.cydem.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070414171327.4c76671a@soralx.cydem.org> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.687, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.51, BAYES_00 -2.60, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE 0.20) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, mitchell@wyatt672earp.force9.co.uk Subject: Re: Seeking Monsieur Joliet X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:22:27 -0000 On 2007-04-14 17:13, soralx@cydem.org wrote: > > > In addition (or perhaps as a consequence) Joliet really screws up > > > file permissions, flags, UID/GID. > > > > Joliet doesn't care about any of these, it's simply an extension of > > ISO 9660 which allows names of up to 64 UCS-2 characters. If you want > > permissions and ownership, use RockRidge (or both - they coexist well) > > But RockRidge already takes care of "long" filenames, doens't it? It does. It is also unsupported by Windows, AFAIK. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 16 00:04:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A5B16A403 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:04:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rloefgren@forethought.net) Received: from mzpi5.forethought.net (mzpi5.forethought.net [216.241.36.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0534C13C45E for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:04:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rloefgren@forethought.net) Received: from 206-124-7-199.denver.dsl.forethought.net ([206.124.7.199] helo=auden.jmla.com) by mz3.forethought.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.51) id 1Hd7ae-0002qy-Gb; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 10:28:36 -0600 Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 10:37:36 -0600 (MDT) From: rloefgren@forethought.net X-X-Sender: rloef@auden.jmla.com To: Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= In-Reply-To: <86odlqy7vo.fsf@dwp.des.no> Message-ID: <20070415103425.R5632@auden.jmla.com> References: <200704141535363203745@wyatt672earp.force9.co.uk> <86odlqy7vo.fsf@dwp.des.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1073852819-1176655056=:5632" Cc: freebsd-chat , mitchell@wyatt672earp.force9.co.uk Subject: Re: Seeking Monsieur Joliet X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:04:42 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-1073852819-1176655056=:5632 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Sat, 14 Apr 2007, Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote: > "Frank Mitchell" writes: >> Some folks rubbish the Joliet CD File System because Microsoft use >> it. But can anybody identify an actual Monsieur Joliet who invented >> it? Presumably he exists somewhere. Was he in fact a Microsoft >> employee? > > No, it's named for Joliet, Illinois. It originated in Windows 95 > which was at the time codenamed Chicago. > > DES > --=20 > Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Ha! Tres apropo. Illinois has a very old state prison in Joliet. We used=20 to swing by it for a look-see on the way to Chicago to buy bicycles and=20 pizza. It was scary to see; quite a deterrent. r --0-1073852819-1176655056=:5632-- From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 16 00:33:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E8FF16A401 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:33:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd001@freeode.co.uk) Received: from mail.freeode.co.uk (mail.freeode.co.uk [87.127.24.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE8113C45A for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:33:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd001@freeode.co.uk) Received: from lexx.freeode.co.uk (lexx.freeode.co.uk [10.10.10.2]) by mail.freeode.co.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l3G0XdRJ001251; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 01:33:40 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd001@freeode.co.uk) From: John Murphy To: Josh Paetzel Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 01:33:39 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20070415144218.GA10621@tcbug.org> In-Reply-To: <20070415144218.GA10621@tcbug.org> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ubuntu stole my FreeBSD... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd001@freeode.co.uk List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:33:42 -0000 Josh Paetzel wrote: >John Murphy wrote: >> >> I must admit it looks nice, but the only thing it'll get used for is >> creating ext2 file systems on Compact Flash cards destined for my >> Psion 5mx. Couldn't find a way to do that from Free. >> >> -- >> Thanks, John. > >I don't suppose you ever tried sysutils/e2fsprogs? I've been able to >create ext2 filesystems with it in the past on FBSD. Thanks for the tip Josh. I didn't know of its existence. I only searched (ports) for ext2fs. The port works very nicely of course. -- Thanks again, John. 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------------------------------------------------ Unsubscribe to safely remove yourself from this email list, please send email to info@pixelfish.com. Powered by Pixelfish http://www.pixelfish.com From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 16 13:44:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C7E316A40F for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:44:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dthomas53@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 482AA13C4AD for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:44:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dthomas53@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so1816567ana for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 06:44:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=AiiOJmE/mUyQry5UBygoA7FwY7DzdegoK8qsiy9qK4KPFlp0xLMvVN4e1nXPg/2XZsjFnW1WvlC71/TXTXDxMfL+WAeVO6wSflhmpI7mc7n36goU8GZ+ksNxUNnlPT+1A0OlLrM7jICSKO26q0euZefXXriOeRG9X2DHBE5pNl4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=bK0fsH56HZS5+p9rmnODQLlqd6Qsc680lmgY6LidNqUWK7hnGANnv2NBslen4YFJV48ugRT2oN+hnFZMUzxCqyrGfWxAX2E9cSC6aHLLhBj7Qzghug4MOlMvXEiJVl3byYIB8m2NlcfBgG9yUDNvl3g+RJUloB2FtvVR0douUnI= Received: by 10.100.164.14 with SMTP id m14mr4453340ane.1176729405326; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 06:16:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.190.6 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 06:16:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 09:16:45 -0400 From: "David Stanford" To: freebsd001@freeode.co.uk In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ubuntu stole my FreeBSD... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:44:11 -0000 On 4/14/07, John Murphy wrote: > The installation was successful, but it seems odd to not have a root > user. The root user is there, it's just somewhat "hidden". I personally hate having to type sudo for every command requiring root privileges, so I always just set the root password and then su into root: # sudo passwd root # su - root -David -- [root@fbsd ~]# fortune Happiness is just an illusion, filled with sadness and confusion. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 16 14:00:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E43CD16A404 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 14:00:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pde@rfc822.net) Received: from fembot3.rfc822.net (adsl-68-92-27-201.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net [68.92.27.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE52F13C4B7 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 14:00:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pde@rfc822.net) Received: by fembot3.rfc822.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id C82F3341BB; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 09:00:25 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 09:00:25 -0500 From: Pete Ehlke To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070416140025.GB19060@rfc822.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Message-Flag: OUTLOOK ERROR: CPU fan clogged with chicken feathers. Avian flu virus? User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.7i Subject: Re: Technology Industry Moves To Video X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 14:00:27 -0000 On Mon Apr 16, 2007 at 06:22:33 -0700, Tammie Cheek wrote: >Greetings!

> > >Are you happy with your results from the Southern California Linux Expo >2007? Did you have what it takes to make the difference between >creating excitement and blending in with the competition, between lots >of hot leads and a few hard sells ... between success and failure?
/>
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I personally hate > having to type sudo for every command requiring root privileges, so I always > just set the root password and then su into root: > > # sudo passwd root > > # su - root > you could always 'sudo su' > -David > -- > [root@fbsd ~]# fortune > Happiness is just an illusion, filled with sadness and confusion. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 16 16:06:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ABEE16A406 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 16:06:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from qupu@psor.cod.ee) Received: from pool-72-89-205-253.nycmny.east.verizon.net (pool-72-89-205-253.nycmny.east.verizon.net [72.89.205.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EDB6813C43E for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 16:06:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from qupu@psor.cod.ee) Received: from sx.apjf ([141.187.234.83]) by pool-72-89-205-253.nycmny.east.verizon.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 16 Apr 2007 12:06:00 -0400 Message-ID: <001001c78041$202a6f70$53eabb8d@sx.apjf> From: "Psor.Cod.Ee" To: Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 12:06:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Psoriasis - the most dangerous illness of 21 century! 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>> >> >> Are you happy with your results from the Southern California Linux Expo >> 2007? Did you have what it takes to make the difference between >> creating excitement and blending in with the competition, between lots >> of hot leads and a few hard sells ... between success and failure?
> />
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From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 16 19:27:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD38416A404 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 19:27:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deeptech71@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B65E13C45B for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 19:27:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deeptech71@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so1008880ugh for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 12:27:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PAWMP0pdoIxQlgBi0xVaEnVGTSmfZZz39lWzmWy5Vj2vTgpA1p9I1IAjIXqvWogNPV/VtOH084xz5Z/xGnmkAZDKEwQCuT9cYoquXoh9vrQ7N+td1dvuBfV1Sc2IXoM3pgx+OTJLoeSwAK13UTykBtUjocHE/LcBv6ToJuFdtls= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=n8ItJUO5789kT2/pqaqk7fXhNSr9D5iubJmwK+gCDoJ3/umzcWzSj0epRa6F/6l1P76fCcuT5bNCITTRFEEPlEziasst65u7lmNBM/e1+ZubR7yquCP9gkFk5DTVHJBIhqzixetlWZZtaj/8cRS+28nUgh+CR7D+W5GATT9YWqE= Received: by 10.82.158.12 with SMTP id g12mr1568533bue.1176751644651; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 12:27:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.123.111? ( [84.2.148.90]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id e8sm278266muf.2007.04.16.12.27.22; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 12:27:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4623CE19.6080406@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:27:21 +0200 From: deeptech71@gmail.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org References: <001001c78041$202a6f70$53eabb8d@sx.apjf> In-Reply-To: <001001c78041$202a6f70$53eabb8d@sx.apjf> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Psoriasis - the most dangerous illness of 21 century! X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 19:27:26 -0000 Psor.Cod.Ee wrote: > Visit our site, we have advises about Psoriasis, > Forum for russianspeaking patients. > http://psor.cod.ee/ > > This is not a Spam. We take your email adress from open source! Writing "This is not a Spam" is a good way to identify spam. Widely used. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 16 19:47:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 584A616A4EB for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 19:47:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: from optimus.centralmiss.com (ns.centralmiss.com [206.156.254.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AC2B13C46C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 19:47:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: from draco.over-yonder.net (adsl-072-148-013-213.sip.jan.bellsouth.net [72.148.13.213]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by optimus.centralmiss.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 710B32896C; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 14:23:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: by draco.over-yonder.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id EE5E361C43; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 14:23:38 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 14:23:38 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: David Stanford Message-ID: <20070416192338.GT4805@over-yonder.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Editor: vi X-OS: FreeBSD User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.14-fullermd.3 (2007-02-12) Cc: freebsd001@freeode.co.uk, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ubuntu stole my FreeBSD... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 19:47:03 -0000 On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 09:16:45AM -0400 I heard the voice of David Stanford, and lo! it spake thus: > > The root user is there, it's just somewhat "hidden". I personally hate > having to type sudo for every command requiring root privileges, so I always > just set the root password and then su into root: > > # sudo passwd root > > # su - root Or you could just "sudo tcsh". I use sudo everywhere, and have for years. I've forgotten the root passwords set on most machines. Makes it a lot easier, especially with multiple people. -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ On the Internet, nobody can hear you scream. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 16 20:01:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 463C716A403 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:01:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deeptech71@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6BF13C468 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:01:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deeptech71@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so1015876ugh for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:01:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=a6R5PN9LFgnFGcDuC9RHzx1IokJrPoLshtnasIyyWC25rgNMsqw0Xe7VOz9M10qbApK6lH8+/cv5B9EgAgSNRrNKBfTbmPCNjSTNU3/63Dr/DG6EYpHOPquXiq1hSPc2srvs4xIT7Kjj4/Mso70nMFTzN5IHAW89SyLjuSRdJvw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NEkeAv8tDSqOlAEHgVv//XT9TTeMAgCNfP6U5ZQQyPxs0U6O0FmwQ/jwQn130JLq6pkrXoceHUn+SWNEYFN8Kgu0L5rcmiPnQkwtJEnCxwfRoNcJvp+wDQEYGZr9GObcDfL+UkznbRUhhiUHFP1trRsvQkvzT1kJtCqokW7K76Q= Received: by 10.67.96.1 with SMTP id y1mr4548027ugl.1176753711742; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:01:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.123.111? ( [84.2.214.244]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id w5sm69344mue.2007.04.16.13.01.49; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:01:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4623D635.6070306@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:01:57 +0200 From: deeptech71@gmail.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: POLL: should the last line end with LF? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:01:53 -0000 I've set up a poll here for this here: http://www.misterpoll.com/2553298996.html Oh and.. Why? From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 16 20:41:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36FA616A402 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:41:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fedyat@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E64B913C4BA for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:41:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fedyat@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 70so1687591wra for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:41:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=iOgMOZ5iFB+MZkdycWybzyueRwBHY8keTvFcSZ8OKk80GnYks8wAi8xH44Ln4vx55TeX8ZjdoNkP2srVA2Shqyv7RTMemS3KSrwgiOlEQFy/kB299XKNtnF+eKGEWNQdB9L4QeWAsSubbr8ig+he5ckjCHrKsdbpssjILCo+20I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=M/F96o5bSCII401Y9M0TqGLQtdlcbGhJuKzfBan08CTctwOa6C5VVVFPV+Eyn2k2vNwxGakU9J05+2Mtv9Rygc5LtnjG9WkBXWLUPin1lHv2EpUUjTsJizBXoh/rhiDBzXTnqYO3Z16j4Wfy6us3UdppbIGPVSM8ChnI/uSIC/8= Received: by 10.114.181.1 with SMTP id d1mr2064499waf.1176754351260; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.72.10 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <65677df80704161312n2e3fe95ahe7a101b71175b6e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 16:12:31 -0400 From: "Theodore Trubetskoy" Sender: fedyat@gmail.com To: "Matthew D. Fuller" In-Reply-To: <20070416192338.GT4805@over-yonder.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070416192338.GT4805@over-yonder.net> X-Google-Sender-Auth: e8ec3eab725405c7 Cc: David Stanford , freebsd001@freeode.co.uk, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ubuntu stole my FreeBSD... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:41:35 -0000 On 4/16/07, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: > On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 09:16:45AM -0400 I heard the voice of > David Stanford, and lo! it spake thus: > > > > The root user is there, it's just somewhat "hidden". I personally hate > > having to type sudo for every command requiring root privileges, so I always > > just set the root password and then su into root: > > > > # sudo passwd root > > > > # su - root > > Or you could just "sudo tcsh". Or just "sudo -s" --fedya From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 17 00:16:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F07A16A402 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:16:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Simon.Maginnity@dsto.defence.gov.au) Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (digger1.defence.gov.au [203.5.217.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90FF013C459 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:16:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Simon.Maginnity@dsto.defence.gov.au) Received: from ednmsw510.dsto.defence.gov.au (ednmsw510.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.68.11]) by digger1.defence.gov.au (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l3GNunuL026036 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:26:50 +0930 (CST) Received: from ednex510.dsto.defence.gov.au (ednex510.dsto.defence.gov.au) by ednmsw510.dsto.defence.gov.au (Clearswift SMTPRS 5.2.5) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:35:49 +0930 Received: from ednex511.dsto.defence.gov.au ([131.185.2.171]) by ednex510.dsto.defence.gov.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:35:48 +0930 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:35:48 +0930 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4623CE19.6080406@gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Psoriasis - the most dangerous illness of 21 century! Sec:U Thread-Index: AceAg8yhwaoeyE8LSAyzxQPvZzBlYwAADWAg References: <001001c78041$202a6f70$53eabb8d@sx.apjf> <4623CE19.6080406@gmail.com> From: "Maginnity, Simon \(Contractor\)" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Apr 2007 00:05:48.0790 (UTC) FILETIME=[275EA160:01C78084] Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Psoriasis - the most dangerous illness of 21 century! X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:16:32 -0000 Did anybody check it out and see what flavour of Spam it is?=20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of deeptech71@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, 17 April 2007 4:57 AM To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Psoriasis - the most dangerous illness of 21 century! Psor.Cod.Ee wrote: > Visit our site, we have advises about Psoriasis, Forum for=20 > russianspeaking patients. > http://psor.cod.ee/ >=20 > This is not a Spam. We take your email adress from open source! Writing "This is not a Spam" is a good way to identify spam. Widely used. _______________________________________________ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Australian Defence Organi= sation and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the CRIMES ACT 1= 914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contac= t the sender and delete the email. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 17 00:55:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A141216A400 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:55:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karma@ez.pereslavl.ru) Received: from pier.botik.ru (pier.botik.ru [193.232.174.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51B0813C44B for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:55:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karma@ez.pereslavl.ru) Received: from ez.pereslavl.ru ([192.168.56.29]:41871 helo=almond) by pier.botik.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HdbYc-0001Hk-LO; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 04:28:40 +0400 Received: from brig2-slavich-priv.botik.ru ([192.168.0.2] helo=localhost) by almond with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HdbXQ-0007Xj-1m; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 04:27:16 +0400 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 04:29:11 +0400 From: Alexey Mikhailov To: "Maginnity, Simon (Contractor)" Message-ID: <20070417002911.GB45774@ez.pereslavl.ru> References: <001001c78041$202a6f70$53eabb8d@sx.apjf> <4623CE19.6080406@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Psoriasis - the most dangerous illness of 21 century! X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:55:12 -0000 On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 09:35:48AM +0930, Maginnity, Simon (Contractor) wrote: > Did anybody check it out and see what flavour of Spam it is? As a native Russian speaker I can tell you that this site is really about Psoriasis and holds many (probably useful) articles and forum. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of > deeptech71@gmail.com > Sent: Tuesday, 17 April 2007 4:57 AM > To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Psoriasis - the most dangerous illness of 21 century! > > Psor.Cod.Ee wrote: > > Visit our site, we have advises about Psoriasis, Forum for > > russianspeaking patients. > > http://psor.cod.ee/ > > > > This is not a Spam. We take your email adress from open source! > > Writing "This is not a Spam" is a good way to identify spam. Widely > used. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Australian Defence Organisation and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the CRIMES ACT 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 17 00:58:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A45216A401 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:58:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl (smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl [213.51.146.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F261A13C4BD for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:58:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from [213.51.146.190] (port=37725 helo=smtp1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl) by smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1HdbRI-0002UZ-ES for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 02:20:56 +0200 Received: from cp464173-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([84.27.214.242]:59954 helo=desktop.homenet) by smtp1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1HdbRE-0006Pr-UQ for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 02:20:52 +0200 From: Danny Pansters To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 02:20:38 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <2a4057fc0704131021t60249c62k4107ee6cf9f1fb8f@mail.gmail.com> <462044E1.8020406@highperformance.net> <4A63E60F-FD0E-48A3-ACA1-A748C4E966E7@HiWAAY.net> In-Reply-To: <4A63E60F-FD0E-48A3-ACA1-A748C4E966E7@HiWAAY.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200704170220.38851.danny@ricin.com> X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: Re: I like Ubuntu X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:58:48 -0000 On Sunday 15 April 2007 04:45:42 David Kelly wrote: > On Apr 13, 2007, at 10:05 PM, Jason C. Wells wrote: > >>> The answer to this question is, always has been, and always will be: > >>> > >>> http://www.xs4all.nl/~marcone/bsdversuslinux.html > >> > >> Just my EUR 0.02. Perhaps even informative... > > > > He obviously didn't read the link. > > *Read*? There were words? Oh, there were two words, missed those the > first time. > > Of 6 visible faces in the picture on the right, 4 look related (white > shirts, no tie). Was that intended to represent the multitude of > Linux distributions? :-) The bearded guy in the bg is wearing a tie. Not sure why though :) Dan From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 17 01:00:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 398D016A402 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 01:00:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from smtpq2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl (smtpq2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl [213.51.146.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C8B13C458 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 01:00:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from [213.51.146.188] (port=58802 helo=smtp3.tilbu1.nb.home.nl) by smtpq2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1HdbU2-0003So-Hb for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 02:23:46 +0200 Received: from cp464173-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([84.27.214.242]:51159 helo=desktop.homenet) by smtp3.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1HdbU0-00077G-EE for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 02:23:44 +0200 From: Danny Pansters To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 02:23:30 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <001001c78041$202a6f70$53eabb8d@sx.apjf> <4623CE19.6080406@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200704170223.30526.danny@ricin.com> X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: Re: Psoriasis - the most dangerous illness of 21 century! X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 01:00:42 -0000 On Tuesday 17 April 2007 02:05:48 Maginnity, Simon (Contractor) wrote: > Did anybody check it out and see what flavour of Spam it is? > Spam with a rash? (sorry) > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of > deeptech71@gmail.com > Sent: Tuesday, 17 April 2007 4:57 AM > To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Psoriasis - the most dangerous illness of 21 century! > > Psor.Cod.Ee wrote: > > Visit our site, we have advises about Psoriasis, Forum for > > russianspeaking patients. > > http://psor.cod.ee/ > > > > This is not a Spam. We take your email adress from open source! > > Writing "This is not a Spam" is a good way to identify spam. Widely > used. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Australian Defence > Organisation and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the CRIMES > ACT 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to > contact the sender and delete the email. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 17 03:04:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79BC516A403 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 03:04:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@HiWAAY.net) Received: from bee.hiwaay.net (bee.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C55113C487 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 03:04:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@HiWAAY.net) Received: from [10.0.0.2] ([216.186.148.249]) (authenticated bits=0) by bee.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l3H3454d1122151 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:04:06 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <200704170220.38851.danny@ricin.com> References: <2a4057fc0704131021t60249c62k4107ee6cf9f1fb8f@mail.gmail.com> <462044E1.8020406@highperformance.net> <4A63E60F-FD0E-48A3-ACA1-A748C4E966E7@HiWAAY.net> <200704170220.38851.danny@ricin.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <449C2293-AD38-46ED-997E-7C7D2785C464@HiWAAY.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Kelly Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:04:35 -0500 To: Danny Pansters X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I like Ubuntu X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 03:04:07 -0000 On Apr 16, 2007, at 7:20 PM, Danny Pansters wrote: > The bearded guy in the bg is wearing a tie. Not sure why though :) He's rebelling against the conformists! -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 17 07:05:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC74716A402 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 07:05:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52EFB13C489 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 07:05:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g7so2187879muf for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:05:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Wo8IO/OSPRS2UxTn9Kn8/GtZI/B0wxj4V8XieiB3N830A53ZVvYplq7Cgkx+84AQGDVgJDKrSfRFhofvb9kn+JIsD94GzqJYmOTxPNqE2OIQjRHkPfQ9ut36YjCMxMyxCvod9X9duNWrpysxoAkDV6BCEn/jpVofZTp4EZIeZdE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WG5uTBF86uaCCP8MV26yNztd83D/WDcSkqNnKDarKZadm5Jus/BbU0JqtumXTy1Rw6cGQYU9NVSTLehlcPW8IMYgYat7duB/Fe8lvNgOmTz6AmduAo08LQmAm4vR+VPPj8BHoWbtiBET6DAMMb4q/mtXopc5ytv1RYws9TnRNU0= Received: by 10.82.134.12 with SMTP id h12mr9723603bud.1176791922771; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 23:38:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.158.7 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 23:38:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <14989d6e0704162338m4b39591dj2c5ca940480f4379@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 08:38:42 +0200 From: "Christian Walther" To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070417002911.GB45774@ez.pereslavl.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <001001c78041$202a6f70$53eabb8d@sx.apjf> <4623CE19.6080406@gmail.com> <20070417002911.GB45774@ez.pereslavl.ru> Subject: Re: Psoriasis - the most dangerous illness of 21 century! X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 07:05:11 -0000 On 17/04/07, Alexey Mikhailov wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 09:35:48AM +0930, Maginnity, Simon (Contractor) wrote: > > Did anybody check it out and see what flavour of Spam it is? > > As a native Russian speaker I can tell you that this site is really about > Psoriasis and holds many (probably useful) articles and forum. [...] But Psoriasis will never be "the most dangerous illness of the 21 century" as advised in this mail. One can't infect other people with this illness, so it won't be a plague such as HIV. It seems to have a genetic component, too. In this regard this Mail is just plain stupid and I can't tell you what mood I was in after I read this piece of "information". It's just not list save... If this really was no intended spam but an attempt to inform people about this illness it was a really bad idea. For the people suffering from Psoriasis and those that don't know this illness. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 19 03:43:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4341D16A406 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2007 03:43:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from supernews.unixathome.org (supernews.unixathome.org [216.168.29.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D3F213C45D for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2007 03:43:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by supernews.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D14CE1702A for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:43:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unixathome.org Received: from supernews.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (supernews.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5TF+GwqvhA35 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:43:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [74.104.200.201]) by supernews.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D885417027 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:43:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.55.0.99] (wocker.unixathome.org [10.55.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15FD4B851 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2007 23:43:48 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Langille" To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 23:42:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4626ACE3.4284.D22E732@dan.langille.org> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Subject: Penske or Budget? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 03:43:47 -0000 If you had to rent a 10' or 16' truck for a 1500 mile trip, would you pick Penske or Budget? :) -- Dan Langille : Software Developer looking for work my resume: http://www.freebsddiary.org/dan_langille.php PGCon - The PostgreSQL Conference - http://www.pgcon.org/ From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 19 04:22:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF4E16A408 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2007 04:22:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from ozlabs.org (ozlabs.org [203.10.76.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4B713C44B for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2007 04:22:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4ABDDE11; Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:53:11 +1000 (EST) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D3D01A986F; Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:23:11 +0930 (CST) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:23:11 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Dan Langille Message-ID: <20070419035311.GD32756@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <4626ACE3.4284.D22E732@dan.langille.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="eqp4TxRxnD4KrmFZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4626ACE3.4284.D22E732@dan.langille.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 VoIP: sip:0871270137@sip.internode.on.net WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Penske or Budget? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 04:22:11 -0000 --eqp4TxRxnD4KrmFZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday, 18 April 2007 at 23:42:27 -0400, Dan Langille wrote: > If you had to rent a 10' or 16' truck for a 1500 mile trip, would you > pick Penske or Budget? No, I don't think so. I suppose the real question is whether you leave the state or not. There are plenty of el cheapo rental companies, but many won't let you go interstate. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --eqp4TxRxnD4KrmFZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGJuenIubykFB6QiMRAnctAJ4geMBh3Xp/UukvSJ7MQHu7nnJr2ACfV0kx /nQ23yUNJfVB9T0Ti87nzjg= =ggi2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --eqp4TxRxnD4KrmFZ-- From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 19 04:53:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22F2D16A407 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2007 04:53:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reed@reedmedia.net) Received: from ca.pugetsoundtechnology.com (ca.pugetsoundtechnology.com [38.99.2.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1227413C45A for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2007 04:53:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reed@reedmedia.net) Received: from pool-71-123-204-253.dllstx.fios.verizon.net ([71.123.204.253] helo=reedmedia.net) by ca.pugetsoundtechnology.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.54) id 1HeOGY-0005Y1-MB; Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:29:06 -0700 Received: from reed@reedmedia.net by reedmedia.net with local (mailout 0.17) id 6879-1176956942; Wed, 18 Apr 2007 23:29:03 -0500 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 23:29:01 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jeremy C. Reed" To: Dan Langille In-Reply-To: <4626ACE3.4284.D22E732@dan.langille.org> Message-ID: References: <4626ACE3.4284.D22E732@dan.langille.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Penske or Budget? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 04:53:29 -0000 On Wed, 18 Apr 2007, Dan Langille wrote: > If you had to rent a 10' or 16' truck for a 1500 mile trip, would you > pick Penske or Budget? Or another suggestion ... We used ABF to ship our belongings about 2270 highway miles. They dropped off a trailer for a few days at our home, we packed it with friends, and they picked it up and drove it for us. Then they delivered the trailer when we requested. (Also they can charge on a partial truck load too, so maybe 10' or 16' is possible.) We figured it would cost about the same to have them drive the truck versus us using Budget and paying for expensive fuel, food, motel rooms, my loss of time, and -- in our case -- a flight home so I could drive a second time with my family. Have a look at ABF to see if their prices compare. The awesome thing about us choosing to use ABF is that we could drive at our own pace and visit many sites and friends versus being on a quick timeline driving a rental truck (which may not even perform like you want). We also looked at storage containers like PODS and another similar company but they cost a lot more than ABF and they are a lot smaller. Jeremy C. Reed From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 20 16:53:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB70516A402 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2007 16:53:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8EC13C455 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2007 16:53:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (jofybu@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l3KGrN8X045075 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2007 18:53:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id l3KGrM8M045074; Fri, 20 Apr 2007 18:53:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 18:53:22 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200704201653.l3KGrM8M045074@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <4623D635.6070306@gmail.com> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-chat User-Agent: tin/1.8.2-20060425 ("Shillay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 20 Apr 2007 18:53:28 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: POLL: should the last line end with LF? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 16:53:32 -0000 deeptech71@gmail.com wrote: > I've set up a poll here for this here: The question doesn't make sense. A file that doesn't end with a newline character is not a legal UNIX text file. The standard UNIX text editors (ed, vi) don't even let you create files that don't end with a newline character. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. 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