From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 19 03:17:57 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B62516A418 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2007 03:17:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anderson@freebsd.org) Received: from ns.trinitel.com (186.161.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com [72.36.161.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D6FE13C46A for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2007 03:17:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anderson@freebsd.org) Received: from proton.local (r74-193-81-203.pfvlcmta01.grtntx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net [74.193.81.203]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns.trinitel.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l7J2pwHx012302; Sat, 18 Aug 2007 21:51:59 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from anderson@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <46C7B04B.6030703@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 21:51:55 -0500 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Watson References: <46B0F505.8090102@freebsdbrasil.com.br> <20070818125647.O84677@fledge.watson.org> <20070818154250.V27632@fledge.watson.org> In-Reply-To: <20070818154250.V27632@fledge.watson.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on ns.trinitel.com Cc: Patrick Tracanelli , fs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xsan (Apple) on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 03:17:57 -0000 Robert Watson wrote: > > On Sat, 18 Aug 2007, Derek E. Lewis wrote: > >> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007, Robert Watson wrote: >> >>> Catching up on an aging thread here -- as far as I know, the XSan >>> parts from Mac OS X are closed source, so while you can access XSan >>> storage using whatever distributed file systems Apple supports (NFS, >>> CIFS?), you can't use FreeBSD to directly access the storage area >>> network. This is probably fine. >>> >>> You'll be interested to know, if you don't already, that both NetApp >>> and Isilon use FreeBSD as the foundation OS for their products. >> >> Isilon uses FreeBSD, yes, but Netapp uses Linux. One of the >> improvements Netapp made to Linux was rewriting the NFS stack to >> support NFSv4 in a decent manner. Those of you that have worked with >> Linux NFS before know that its not something you want to ship on a >> commercial storage product. > > NetApp gave a rather nice presentation at the recent FreeBSD developer > summit in Ottawa on the topic of FreeBSD as the foundation OS for > OnTap/GX, and also made a rather healthy donation to the FreeBSD > Foundation in the last six months. I defer to their expertise on the > point of what the OS in their product is... :-) As I understand it, > NetApp has improved the Linux NFS client significantly, but not for the > purposes of including it in their product. Robert, can you point me to that presentation please? I'd love to read it.. Eric From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 19 20:54:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E1F916A420; Sun, 19 Aug 2007 20:54:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rees@citi.umich.edu) Received: from citi.umich.edu (unknown [IPv6:2001:468:e9c:3060::111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D259C13C48E; Sun, 19 Aug 2007 20:54:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rees@citi.umich.edu) Received: from citi.umich.edu (dsl093-001-248.det1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.93.1.248]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Jim Rees", Issuer "CITI Production KCA" (verified OK)) by citi.umich.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8CBD47B1; Sun, 19 Aug 2007 16:54:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 16:54:48 -0400 From: Jim Rees To: "Derek E. Lewis" Message-ID: <20070819205447.GD590@citi.umich.edu> References: <46B0F505.8090102@freebsdbrasil.com.br> <20070818125647.O84677@fledge.watson.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: Patrick Tracanelli , Robert Watson , fs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xsan (Apple) on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 20:54:51 -0000 Derek E. Lewis wrote: One of the improvements Netapp made to Linux was rewriting the NFS stack to support NFSv4 in a decent manner. Netapp has contributed generously to the effort, but the actual work has been done, and continues to be done, here at CITI. http://www.citi.umich.edu/projects/nfsv4/ From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 20 07:28:04 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C70C16A417 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 07:28:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kvs@binarysolutions.dk) Received: from solow.pil.dk (relay.pil.dk [195.41.47.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 548F113C481 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 07:28:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kvs@binarysolutions.dk) Received: from coruscant.local (naboo.binarysolutions.dk [80.196.17.173]) by solow.pil.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7C0B1CC09C for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 09:28:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: by coruscant.local (Postfix, from userid 502) id BEC33587CEE; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 09:28:00 +0200 (CEST) To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org References: From: Kenneth Vestergaard Schmidt Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 09:28:00 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Kenneth Vestergaard Schmidt's message of "Sat\, 18 Aug 2007 12\:05\:27 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: ZFS: 'checksum mismatch' all over the place X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 07:28:04 -0000 Kenneth Vestergaard Schmidt writes: > We've just put a 12x750 GB raidz2 pool into use, but we're seeing > constant 'checksum mismatch' errors. The drives are brand new. And now the pool failed :( I'm very puzzled by the fact, that the 'checksum mismatch' errors seem to occur at the same offset on multiple disks: Aug 20 01:00:24 leibniz root: ZFS: checksum mismatch, zpool=pil path=/dev/da0 offset=58350080 size=512 Aug 20 01:00:24 leibniz root: ZFS: checksum mismatch, zpool=pil path=/dev/da1 offset=58350080 size=512 Aug 20 01:00:24 leibniz root: ZFS: checksum mismatch, zpool=pil path=/dev/da2 offset=58350080 size=512 Aug 20 01:00:24 leibniz root: ZFS: checksum mismatch, zpool=pil path=/dev/da3 offset=58350080 size=512 Aug 20 01:00:24 leibniz root: ZFS: checksum mismatch, zpool=pil path=/dev/da2 offset=38010880 size=512 Aug 20 01:00:24 leibniz root: ZFS: checksum mismatch, zpool=pil path=/dev/da3 offset=38010880 size=512 Aug 20 01:00:24 leibniz root: ZFS: checksum mismatch, zpool=pil path=/dev/da4 offset=38010880 size=512 Aug 20 01:00:24 leibniz root: ZFS: checksum mismatch, zpool=pil path=/dev/da5 offset=38010880 size=512 Aug 20 01:00:24 leibniz root: ZFS: checksum mismatch, zpool=pil path=/dev/da6 offset=38010880 size=512 Aug 20 01:00:24 leibniz root: ZFS: checksum mismatch, zpool=pil path=/dev/da7 offset=38010880 size=512 Aug 20 01:00:24 leibniz root: ZFS: checksum mismatch, zpool=pil path=/dev/da8 offset=38010880 size=512 Aug 20 01:00:24 leibniz root: ZFS: checksum mismatch, zpool=pil path=/dev/da9 offset=38010880 size=512 Aug 20 01:00:24 leibniz root: ZFS: checksum mismatch, zpool=pil path=/dev/da10 offset=38010880 size=512 Can anybody offer anything to help me with this? I'm pretty much at a loss as to how I can find the cause of this. -- Kenneth Schmidt pil.dk From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 20 11:08:18 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BD8C16A4CF for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:08:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4952F13C45E for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:08:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l7KB8IVR087398 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:08:18 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l7KB8HdR087394 for freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:08:17 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:08:17 GMT Message-Id: <200708201108.l7KB8HdR087394@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to you X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:08:18 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems Serious problems S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o kern/112658 fs [smbfs] [patch] smbfs and caching problems (resolves b o kern/114676 fs [ufs] snapshot creation panics: snapacct_ufs2: bad blo o kern/114856 fs [ntfs] [patch] Bug in NTFS allows bogus file modes. o bin/115165 fs [PATCH] amd(8): add functionality of mount_nfs' -L -a 4 problems total. Non-critical problems S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o kern/114847 fs [ntfs] [patch] dirmask support for NTFS ala MSDOSFS 1 problem total. From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 20 11:30:54 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EBAD16A469 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:30:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pjd@garage.freebsd.pl) Received: from mail.garage.freebsd.pl (arm132.internetdsl.tpnet.pl [83.17.198.132]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9787C13C46A for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:30:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pjd@garage.freebsd.pl) Received: by mail.garage.freebsd.pl (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 34EA5487FD; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 13:30:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (pjd.wheel.pl [10.0.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.garage.freebsd.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B5245685; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 13:30:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 13:29:46 +0200 From: Pawel Jakub Dawidek To: Kenneth Vestergaard Schmidt Message-ID: <20070820112946.GC16977@garage.freebsd.pl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0/kgSOzhNoDC5T3a" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Key-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~pjd/pjd.asc X-OS: FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT i386 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on mail.garage.freebsd.pl X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.9 required=3.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.4 Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS: 'checksum mismatch' all over the place X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:30:54 -0000 --0/kgSOzhNoDC5T3a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 12:05:27PM +0200, Kenneth Vestergaard Schmidt wrote: > Hello. >=20 > We've just put a 12x750 GB raidz2 pool into use, but we're seeing > constant 'checksum mismatch' errors. The drives are brand new. >=20 > 'zpool status' currently lists the following: >=20 > NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM > pil ONLINE 0 0 189.9 > raidz2 ONLINE 0 0 189.9 > da0 ONLINE 0 0 2.99K > da1 ONLINE 0 0 606 > da2 ONLINE 0 0 75 > da3 ONLINE 0 0 1.94K > da4 ONLINE 0 0 786 > da5 ONLINE 0 0 88 > da6 ONLINE 0 0 79 > da7 ONLINE 0 0 99 > da8 ONLINE 0 0 533 > da9 ONLINE 0 0 1.38K > da10 ONLINE 0 0 15 > da11 ONLINE 0 0 628 >=20 > da0-da11 are really logical drives on an EonStor SCSI drive-cage. The > physical disks are SATA, but since our EonStor can't run in JBOD-mode, > I've had to create a logical drive per physical drive, and map each onto > a separate SCSI LUN. >=20 > The drive-cage was previously used to expose a RAID-5 array, composed of > the 12 disks. This worked just fine, connecting to the same machine and > controller (i386 IBM xSeries X335, mpt(4) controller). How do you know it was fine? Did you have something that did checksumming? You could try geli with integrity verification feature turned on, fill the disks with some random data and then read it back, if your controller corrupts the data, geli should tell you this. > The EonStor can report SMART-statistics on each SATA-drive, and > everything looks peachy there. >=20 > What puzzles me is, that the drives don't seem to be failing - they just > develop checksum errors. If they had hard failures, ZFS should mark them > broken. It's also spread across all disks, and I have a hard time > believing we just got 12 bad drives, which don't register as bad to the > EonStor. >=20 > Has anybody seen something like this? Any pointers on how to debug it? --=20 Pawel Jakub Dawidek http://www.wheel.pl pjd@FreeBSD.org http://www.FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer Am I Evil? Yes, I Am! --0/kgSOzhNoDC5T3a Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGyXsqForvXbEpPzQRAgwtAKCBgnNaoZEJW0lsSRa6vY8OWCcrMwCfaPKu Yfmpk+99VQGLud1cQ4sFA50= =BayO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0/kgSOzhNoDC5T3a-- From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 20 12:20:36 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410A616A417 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:20:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kvs@binarysolutions.dk) Received: from solow.pil.dk (relay.pil.dk [195.41.47.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 069A913C45E for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:20:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kvs@binarysolutions.dk) Received: from coruscant.local (naboo.binarysolutions.dk [80.196.17.173]) by solow.pil.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249E31CC0BE; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:20:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: by coruscant.local (Postfix, from userid 502) id 728DE5A0B4D; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:20:33 +0200 (CEST) To: Pawel Jakub Dawidek References: <20070820112946.GC16977@garage.freebsd.pl> From: Kenneth Vestergaard Schmidt Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:20:33 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20070820112946.GC16977@garage.freebsd.pl> (Pawel Jakub Dawidek's message of "Mon\, 20 Aug 2007 13\:29\:46 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS: 'checksum mismatch' all over the place X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:20:36 -0000 Pawel Jakub Dawidek writes: >> The drive-cage was previously used to expose a RAID-5 array, composed of >> the 12 disks. This worked just fine, connecting to the same machine and >> controller (i386 IBM xSeries X335, mpt(4) controller). > > How do you know it was fine? Did you have something that did > checksumming? You could try geli with integrity verification feature > turned on, fill the disks with some random data and then read it back, > if your controller corrupts the data, geli should tell you this. I may have to do this. The previous drive was almost filled to the brim with data, which rsync looked at each day, and we didn't have a lot of re-transfer, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything. The same controller is used in 50+ other machines, but only connected to two internal drives. There are no problems in those machines. Still, the really weird thing is that we're seeing checksum-errors in the same block across many drives. This does smell like either an issue with the driver, the controller, or the drivecage, and not ZFS or GEOM. The machine should have been in production, but the array just failed, and if I can't salvage it, I'll have to start over. I might just as well try geli with integrity verification before recreating the ZFS array, then. -- Kenneth Schmidt pil.dk From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 20 18:14:11 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2820D16A41A for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 18:14:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bakul@bitblocks.com) Received: from mail.bitblocks.com (ns1.bitblocks.com [64.142.15.60]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A1C113C4A6 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 18:14:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bakul@bitblocks.com) Received: from bitblocks.com (localhost.bitblocks.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bitblocks.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861295B30; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 10:53:47 -0700 (PDT) To: Kenneth Vestergaard Schmidt In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 20 Aug 2007 09:28:00 +0200." Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 10:53:47 -0700 From: Bakul Shah Message-Id: <20070820175347.861295B30@mail.bitblocks.com> Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS: 'checksum mismatch' all over the place X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 18:14:11 -0000 > Aug 20 01:00:24 leibniz root: ZFS: checksum mismatch, zpool=pil path=/dev/da0 > offset=58350080 size=512 > Aug 20 01:00:24 leibniz root: ZFS: checksum mismatch, zpool=pil path=/dev/da1 > offset=58350080 size=512 > Aug 20 01:00:24 leibniz root: ZFS: checksum mismatch, zpool=pil path=/dev/da2 > offset=58350080 size=512 > Aug 20 01:00:24 leibniz root: ZFS: checksum mismatch, zpool=pil path=/dev/da3 > offset=58350080 size=512 > > Aug 20 01:00:24 leibniz root: ZFS: checksum mismatch, zpool=pil path=/dev/da2 > offset=38010880 size=512 > Aug 20 01:00:24 leibniz root: ZFS: checksum mismatch, zpool=pil path=/dev/da3 > offset=38010880 size=512 > Aug 20 01:00:24 leibniz root: ZFS: checksum mismatch, zpool=pil path=/dev/da4 > offset=38010880 size=512 > Aug 20 01:00:24 leibniz root: ZFS: checksum mismatch, zpool=pil path=/dev/da5 > offset=38010880 size=512 > Aug 20 01:00:24 leibniz root: ZFS: checksum mismatch, zpool=pil path=/dev/da6 > offset=38010880 size=512 > Aug 20 01:00:24 leibniz root: ZFS: checksum mismatch, zpool=pil path=/dev/da7 > offset=38010880 size=512 > Aug 20 01:00:24 leibniz root: ZFS: checksum mismatch, zpool=pil path=/dev/da8 > offset=38010880 size=512 > Aug 20 01:00:24 leibniz root: ZFS: checksum mismatch, zpool=pil path=/dev/da9 > offset=38010880 size=512 > Aug 20 01:00:24 leibniz root: ZFS: checksum mismatch, zpool=pil path=/dev/da1 > 0 offset=38010880 size=512 > > Can anybody offer anything to help me with this? I'm pretty much at a > loss as to how I can find the cause of this. This probably means the more than two blocks in zraid2 were bad so zpool can't correct the error. Just speculating here but may be the controller or disk writes there "behind your back" (assuming the offset reported is correct -- you can check zfs logic for that)? Can you map the offset to a disk block number? You can try writing/reading that block (after disabling zfs) and see if it changes in an unexpected way. This may not show any error if the problem is some complex interaction. If the disks are all the same and new, check the vendor website to see if there is a firmware upgrade. See if replacing one disk with another type of disk changes the error. 38010880 is 0x2440000 -- don't know if that is magic in any way but sometime a hex value can reveal a pattern. Always look at the binary or hex representation of any reported number in an error message! From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 20 19:31:53 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C804D16A49E; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:31:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8348313C4D1; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:31:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spam.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D4D620B2; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:31:47 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Tests: AWL X-Spam-Learn: disabled X-Spam-Score: 0.0/3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on tim.des.no Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [80.203.243.180]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F18220B1; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:31:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 02F7484486; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:31:46 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: "N. Harrington" References: <236419.62551.qm@web34506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:31:46 +0200 In-Reply-To: <236419.62551.qm@web34506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> (N. Harrington's message of "Fri\, 17 Aug 2007 13\:03\:06 -0700 \(PDT\)") Message-ID: <863ayef1el.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, Pawel Jakub Dawidek Subject: Re: Gjournal reporting 1/2 the speed of non journaled? What is the status of Gjournal? X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:31:53 -0000 "N. Harrington" writes: > Pawel Jakub Dawidek writes: > > We have ZFS now, we don't need journaled file system:) > I guess I need to learn now about ZFS. As far as I know it is not > available in 6 yet and it is for raid, not for journaling or a > filesystem itself. Correct on the first count, wrong on the rest. If you want to learn more, the top three Google hits for "zfs" are a good place to start. 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Tel: +44-7024067187 E-mail: missionhouse@rexian.com website: http://www.missionhouses.org/ From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 22 14:12:59 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA80316A417; Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:12:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anderson@freebsd.org) Received: from ns.trinitel.com (186.161.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com [72.36.161.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6CE713C4CA; Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:12:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anderson@freebsd.org) Received: from proton.local (209-163-168-124.static.twtelecom.net [209.163.168.124]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns.trinitel.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l7MECsQs038014; Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:12:55 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from anderson@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <46CC4468.2040707@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:12:56 -0500 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Watson References: <46B0F505.8090102@freebsdbrasil.com.br> <20070818125647.O84677@fledge.watson.org> <20070818154250.V27632@fledge.watson.org> <46C7B04B.6030703@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <46C7B04B.6030703@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on ns.trinitel.com Cc: Patrick Tracanelli , fs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xsan (Apple) on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:13:00 -0000 Eric Anderson wrote: > Robert Watson wrote: >> >> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007, Derek E. Lewis wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007, Robert Watson wrote: >>> >>>> Catching up on an aging thread here -- as far as I know, the XSan >>>> parts from Mac OS X are closed source, so while you can access XSan >>>> storage using whatever distributed file systems Apple supports (NFS, >>>> CIFS?), you can't use FreeBSD to directly access the storage area >>>> network. This is probably fine. >>>> >>>> You'll be interested to know, if you don't already, that both NetApp >>>> and Isilon use FreeBSD as the foundation OS for their products. >>> >>> Isilon uses FreeBSD, yes, but Netapp uses Linux. One of the >>> improvements Netapp made to Linux was rewriting the NFS stack to >>> support NFSv4 in a decent manner. Those of you that have worked with >>> Linux NFS before know that its not something you want to ship on a >>> commercial storage product. >> >> NetApp gave a rather nice presentation at the recent FreeBSD developer >> summit in Ottawa on the topic of FreeBSD as the foundation OS for >> OnTap/GX, and also made a rather healthy donation to the FreeBSD >> Foundation in the last six months. I defer to their expertise on the >> point of what the OS in their product is... :-) As I understand it, >> NetApp has improved the Linux NFS client significantly, but not for >> the purposes of including it in their product. > > Robert, can you point me to that presentation please? I'd love to read > it.. Does anyone have a pointer to the presentation by NetApp from the Dev summit? Eric From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 22 14:41:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2939A16A477 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:41:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eksffa@freebsdbrasil.com.br) Received: from capeta.freebsdbrasil.com.br (vrrp.freebsdbrasil.com.br [200.210.70.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BA38F13C4B7 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:41:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eksffa@freebsdbrasil.com.br) Received: (qmail 10779 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2007 11:44:39 -0300 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 10767, pid: 10771, t: 0.6853s scanners: clamav: 0.91.1/m: spam: 3.1.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin: -last, FreeBSD Brasil LTDA rulesets: Yes X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 required=3.7 Received: from unknown (HELO claire.bh.freebsdbrasil.com.br) (201.78.58.231) by capeta.freebsdbrasil.com.br with SMTP; 22 Aug 2007 11:44:39 -0300 Message-ID: <46CC4B03.2050003@freebsdbrasil.com.br> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:41:07 -0300 From: Patrick Tracanelli Organization: FreeBSD Brasil LTDA User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070612) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Anderson References: <46B0F505.8090102@freebsdbrasil.com.br> <20070818125647.O84677@fledge.watson.org> <20070818154250.V27632@fledge.watson.org> <46C7B04B.6030703@freebsd.org> <46CC4468.2040707@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <46CC4468.2040707@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Robert Watson , fs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xsan (Apple) on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:41:06 -0000 Eric Anderson wrote: > Eric Anderson wrote: >> Robert Watson wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007, Derek E. Lewis wrote: >>> >>>> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007, Robert Watson wrote: >>>> >>>>> Catching up on an aging thread here -- as far as I know, the XSan >>>>> parts from Mac OS X are closed source, so while you can access XSan >>>>> storage using whatever distributed file systems Apple supports >>>>> (NFS, CIFS?), you can't use FreeBSD to directly access the storage >>>>> area network. This is probably fine. >>>>> >>>>> You'll be interested to know, if you don't already, that both >>>>> NetApp and Isilon use FreeBSD as the foundation OS for their products. >>>> >>>> Isilon uses FreeBSD, yes, but Netapp uses Linux. One of the >>>> improvements Netapp made to Linux was rewriting the NFS stack to >>>> support NFSv4 in a decent manner. Those of you that have worked with >>>> Linux NFS before know that its not something you want to ship on a >>>> commercial storage product. >>> >>> NetApp gave a rather nice presentation at the recent FreeBSD >>> developer summit in Ottawa on the topic of FreeBSD as the foundation >>> OS for OnTap/GX, and also made a rather healthy donation to the >>> FreeBSD Foundation in the last six months. I defer to their >>> expertise on the point of what the OS in their product is... :-) As >>> I understand it, NetApp has improved the Linux NFS client >>> significantly, but not for the purposes of including it in their >>> product. >> >> Robert, can you point me to that presentation please? I'd love to >> read it.. > > Does anyone have a pointer to the presentation by NetApp from the Dev > summit? > > > Eric Julian Elischer has the presentation on video, if I am not wrong. It was available a while ago, but got offline due to some sort of bandwidth usage issues. Follow the README file at http://people.freebsd.org/~julian/DEVSUMMIT/ to contact mr Elischer. -- Patrick Tracanelli From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 22 15:24:53 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 217D416A417; Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:24:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [209.31.154.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDDEE13C49D; Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:24:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [209.31.154.41]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA32C4A843; Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:24:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:24:51 +0100 (BST) From: Robert Watson X-X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Eric Anderson In-Reply-To: <46CC4468.2040707@freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20070822162258.V3136@fledge.watson.org> References: <46B0F505.8090102@freebsdbrasil.com.br> <20070818125647.O84677@fledge.watson.org> <20070818154250.V27632@fledge.watson.org> <46C7B04B.6030703@freebsd.org> <46CC4468.2040707@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Patrick Tracanelli , fs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xsan (Apple) on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:24:53 -0000 On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, Eric Anderson wrote: >>> NetApp gave a rather nice presentation at the recent FreeBSD developer >>> summit in Ottawa on the topic of FreeBSD as the foundation OS for >>> OnTap/GX, and also made a rather healthy donation to the FreeBSD >>> Foundation in the last six months. I defer to their expertise on the >>> point of what the OS in their product is... :-) As I understand it, >>> NetApp has improved the Linux NFS client significantly, but not for the >>> purposes of including it in their product. >> >> Robert, can you point me to that presentation please? I'd love to read >> it.. > > Does anyone have a pointer to the presentation by NetApp from the Dev > summit? I don't believe the slides are online -- you could try dropping e-mail to Peter Frehan, a FreeBSD developer working at NetApp, to ask about them. You can find many of the slide sets from the developer summit online on the wiki page for the summit: http://wiki.freebsd.org/200705DevSummit The Isilon slide includes a nice shopping list of features they'd like to give back :-). I believe they are looking for willing collaborators to help make that happen. Robert N M Watson Computer Laboratory University of Cambridge From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 22 18:14:53 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6C2A16A419; Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:14:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [209.31.154.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A04513C457; Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:14:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [209.31.154.41]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19CE64A157; Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:14:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:14:53 +0100 (BST) From: Robert Watson X-X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Eric Anderson In-Reply-To: <20070822162258.V3136@fledge.watson.org> Message-ID: <20070822191413.O64808@fledge.watson.org> References: <46B0F505.8090102@freebsdbrasil.com.br> <20070818125647.O84677@fledge.watson.org> <20070818154250.V27632@fledge.watson.org> <46C7B04B.6030703@freebsd.org> <46CC4468.2040707@freebsd.org> <20070822162258.V3136@fledge.watson.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Patrick Tracanelli , fs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xsan (Apple) on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:14:53 -0000 On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, Robert Watson wrote: > I don't believe the slides are online -- you could try dropping e-mail to > Peter Frehan, a FreeBSD developer working at NetApp, to ask about them. ^^^^^^^ Should read "Peter Grehan". Having one of those sorts of days :-). Robert N M Watson Computer Laboratory University of Cambridge From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 24 02:33:30 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A561B16A419 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2007 02:33:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drumslayer2@yahoo.com) Received: from web34511.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web34511.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.178.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 559A513C45A for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2007 02:33:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drumslayer2@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 17475 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Aug 2007 02:33:29 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=EHrCo2e0qVSXAKUuMzGMnbYeg2e6vo3O616sfpjXnCqwvWM0GRIcwDR/NF26gVHnSKgGVsKQZwA/BPjJ9dy1/pxq8u7TmBbVjvaOj0/xxiBckS0nRWqEIEhhJhezUc6KUYMz9oJnqUrS7asZIZ0Hjntz496bMnQxKF0mdt9Ziv4=; X-YMail-OSG: u6.of3kVM1mH9RBMHCFEGKgv9.UDCG2C3H1BlpNYJLDWujhXdmsYzl6yQfzZcajGI.qE.GhHWA-- Received: from [67.112.21.27] by web34511.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:33:29 PDT Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:33:29 -0700 (PDT) From: "N. Harrington" To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <357877.13513.qm@web34511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: New cvsup of 7.0-Current does not allow autstart of Gjournal? X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 02:33:30 -0000 Hello I just cvsupped to the latest 7.0 and now find that gjournal fails to start. Manually doing # gjournal load - then manually mounting works however. I did have in /boot/loader.conf geom_gjournal_load="yes" but it seems to be ignored. It is also now not listed as an option in defaults. Did I do something wrong or is something missing now? I looked for anything gjournal related in /etc/defaults and /boot/defaults and even /etc and I cannot find anything. I do have options UFS_GJOURNAL in my kernel. I am also curious why options GEOM_JOURNAL is only in LINT? (I did not add it to my kernel) I have found (on other systems) that with it, I did not need to aforementioned startup commands. Is this required now in place of the startup command? Even though it is only in LINT? Thanks Nicole The Large Print Giveth And The Small Print Taketh Away -- Anon From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 24 03:58:32 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A6416A417 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2007 03:58:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rodrigc@crodrigues.org) Received: from alnrmhc15.comcast.net (alnrmhc15.comcast.net [206.18.177.55]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E39513C465 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2007 03:58:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rodrigc@crodrigues.org) Received: from _hostname_ (c-66-31-37-31.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.37.31]) by comcast.net (alnrmhc15) with SMTP id <20070824034829b1500a3h4de>; Fri, 24 Aug 2007 03:48:29 +0000 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 24 Aug 2007 11:46:03 -0400 From: "Craig Rodrigues" Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 11:46:03 -0400 To: "N. Harrington" Message-ID: <20070824154603.GA61778@crodrigues.org> References: <357877.13513.qm@web34511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <357877.13513.qm@web34511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New cvsup of 7.0-Current does not allow autstart of Gjournal? X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 03:58:32 -0000 On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 07:33:29PM -0700, N. Harrington wrote: > I did have in /boot/loader.conf geom_gjournal_load="yes" but it seems to be ignored. Try instead: geom_journal_load="yes" If you do kldstat, you see that the module is not geom_gjournal, it is geom_journal: 6 1 0xc763e000 13000 geom_journal.ko -- Craig Rodrigues rodrigc@crodrigues.org From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 24 05:09:46 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41FFC16A418 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2007 05:09:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drumslayer2@yahoo.com) Received: from web34501.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web34501.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.178.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AC62613C459 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2007 05:09:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drumslayer2@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 72992 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Aug 2007 05:09:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=YBZzaIbQMAEJAUPL+UwbpXLi0fG0zVVSHf4variwQD/9A+0u2QAi7Hig+MvmVOHDk2DG+DCgsbxlC4jGg88ezjyIEatuW6xlhkA2nEQX3EJQoTF833tg5qbX++dNFtOOrmaR1rGNPIta37n97Z28xCXxIv87rDXebKfD9/j2aGM=; X-YMail-OSG: v27ZJTYVM1lZcuXC1Lb4Ds39NKoIQqJbeJZsFmhiZbKsn9pLA9_BvygEb3wM5y8MdTGvC_pWSg-- Received: from [67.112.21.27] by web34501.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:09:44 PDT Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:09:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "N. Harrington" To: Craig Rodrigues In-Reply-To: <20070824154603.GA61778@crodrigues.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <68496.72881.qm@web34501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New cvsup of 7.0-Current does not allow autstart of Gjournal? X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 05:09:46 -0000 --- Craig Rodrigues wrote: > On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 07:33:29PM -0700, N. Harrington wrote: > > I did have in /boot/loader.conf geom_gjournal_load="yes" but it seems to be ignored. > > Try instead: > geom_journal_load="yes" > > If you do kldstat, you see that the module is not geom_gjournal, it is > geom_journal: > > 6 1 0xc763e000 13000 geom_journal.ko > > -- > Craig Rodrigues > rodrigc@crodrigues.org Giant gigantic Woops! Thanks! Still.. I am so curious why there is no mention of it anyplace in /boot/defaults/ nor in gjournal's man page. Why is the way to actually turn on / really use gjournal being so obfuscated? Why isn't it a rc.conf entry like zfs or at least mentioned some place? Journaling is to big(todays) disks what SMP is to multi core cpu's. SMP is now standard. Why isn't journaling? Nicole