From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 13 16:10:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D15516A402 for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 16:10:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from ftp.translate.ru (ftp.translate.ru [195.131.4.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB6D13C44B for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 16:10:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from desktop.home.serebryakov.spb.ru ([89.163.10.141]) (authenticated bits=0) by ftp.translate.ru (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l4DFo8MP072609 for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 19:50:08 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 19:49:57 +0400 From: Lev Serebryakov X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.11.02) Organization: FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <775615123.20070513194957@serebryakov.spb.ru> To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on ftp.translate.ru Cc: Subject: AR5513 chipset (DLink DWL-G520M) support in ath(4)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Lev Serebryakov List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 16:10:05 -0000 Hello All, Is here any work to support newest Atheros chipsets, AR5513, for example, in ath(4)? -- Best regards, Lev mailto:lev@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 13 17:30:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F9116A403 for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 17:30:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lnb@freebsdsystems.com) Received: from mx1.freebsdsystems.com (ns.freebsdsystems.com [69.90.68.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B3813C44B for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 17:30:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lnb@freebsdsystems.com) Received: (qmail 64681 invoked by uid 89); 13 May 2007 17:03:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.5?) (lnb@freebsdsystems.com@216.235.8.115) by mx1.freebsdsystems.com with ESMTPA; 13 May 2007 17:03:59 -0000 Message-ID: <464744D9.4060107@freebsdsystems.com> Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 13:03:21 -0400 From: Lanny Baron Organization: Freedom Technologies Corp. FreeBSD Systems User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brooks Davis References: <4641385E.2010502@careytech.com.au> <20070509141715.GA53142@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> In-Reply-To: <20070509141715.GA53142@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Ivan Carey , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Support for Quad-Core Intel Xeon 5310 CPU X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 17:30:44 -0000 Hi Ivan and Brooks, I can assure you that quad-core Xeon Processors in single-socket or dual-socket Servers works and works well. No, make that very well. Regards, +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= Lanny Baron Freedom Technologies Corporation High Performance Servers and RAID Systems Toll Free: 1.877.963.1900 http://www.freebsdsystems.com +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= Brooks Davis wrote: > On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 12:56:30PM +1000, Ivan Carey wrote: >> Hi, >> Does FreeBSD 6.2 support Quad-Core Intel Xeon 5310 CPU and an Intel Xeon >> 5320 quad core CPU > > I can't speak to the specific numbers, but we've run a couple different > Quad-Core Xeons in testing at work and they seem to work well. > > -- Broks From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 13 18:31:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3634416A402; Sun, 13 May 2007 18:31:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Received: from ebb.errno.com (ebb.errno.com [69.12.149.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC86513C44B; Sun, 13 May 2007 18:31:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Received: from [10.0.0.178] ([10.0.0.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by ebb.errno.com (8.13.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id l4DIBJpe044983 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 13 May 2007 11:11:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Message-ID: <464754C6.6050605@errno.com> Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 11:11:18 -0700 From: Sam Leffler Organization: Errno Consulting User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Macintosh/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lev Serebryakov References: <775615123.20070513194957@serebryakov.spb.ru> In-Reply-To: <775615123.20070513194957@serebryakov.spb.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AR5513 chipset (DLink DWL-G520M) support in ath(4)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 18:31:51 -0000 Lev Serebryakov wrote: > Hello All, > > Is here any work to support newest Atheros chipsets, AR5513, for example, in ath(4)? > This is a MIPS-based SoC. Supporting it requires a lot more than just ath changes. Sam From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 13 18:38:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15C2016A400 for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 18:38:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from ftp.translate.ru (ftp.translate.ru [195.131.4.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9380013C45A for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 18:38:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from desktop.home.serebryakov.spb.ru ([89.163.10.141]) (authenticated bits=0) by ftp.translate.ru (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l4DIcDqt078899; Sun, 13 May 2007 22:38:13 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 22:38:03 +0400 From: Lev Serebryakov X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.11.02) Organization: FreeBSD Project X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <116377599.20070513223803@serebryakov.spb.ru> To: Sam Leffler In-Reply-To: <464754C6.6050605@errno.com> References: <775615123.20070513194957@serebryakov.spb.ru> <464754C6.6050605@errno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on ftp.translate.ru Cc: Lev Serebryakov , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re[2]: AR5513 chipset (DLink DWL-G520M) support in ath(4)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Lev Serebryakov List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 18:38:54 -0000 Hello Sam, Sunday, May 13, 2007, 10:11:18 PM, you wrote: >> Hello All, >> >> Is here any work to support newest Atheros chipsets, AR5513, for >> example, in ath(4)? >> SL> This is a MIPS-based SoC. Supporting it requires a lot more than just SL> ath changes. Oops. Year ot two and every chip and card in PC will have its own OS -- GPU, network, sound, etc :) There is not documentation/firmware form Atheros, of course? I suppose, that 802.11n draft chipsets are SoCs too? -- Best regards, Lev mailto:lev@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 13 22:39:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAD4216A480; Sun, 13 May 2007 22:39:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Received: from ebb.errno.com (ebb.errno.com [69.12.149.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A433313C465; Sun, 13 May 2007 22:39:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Received: from [10.0.0.178] ([10.0.0.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by ebb.errno.com (8.13.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id l4DMdMnT046643 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 13 May 2007 15:39:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Message-ID: <46479399.7030702@errno.com> Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 15:39:21 -0700 From: Sam Leffler Organization: Errno Consulting User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Macintosh/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lev Serebryakov References: <775615123.20070513194957@serebryakov.spb.ru> <464754C6.6050605@errno.com> <116377599.20070513223803@serebryakov.spb.ru> In-Reply-To: <116377599.20070513223803@serebryakov.spb.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: AR5513 chipset (DLink DWL-G520M) support in ath(4)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 22:39:22 -0000 Lev Serebryakov wrote: > Hello Sam, > > Sunday, May 13, 2007, 10:11:18 PM, you wrote: > >>> Hello All, >>> >>> Is here any work to support newest Atheros chipsets, AR5513, for >>> example, in ath(4)? >>> > SL> This is a MIPS-based SoC. Supporting it requires a lot more than just > SL> ath changes. > Oops. Year ot two and every chip and card in PC will have its own OS -- GPU, network, sound, etc :) > There is not documentation/firmware form Atheros, of course? For Atheros SoC = GPU + Wireless h/w. The wireless h/w is not exposed via PCI bus but sits on an internal bus and is controlled by the GPU which runs a complete OS like linux or netbsd (and hopefully some day freebsd). The ath driver just needs the appropriate bus shim to work and support has been available for a while. > > I suppose, that 802.11n draft chipsets are SoCs too? > The 5416 and 5418 are stock PCI (-express) parts that require the host to handle much of the 11n protocol. I've given out test hal's that support these parts (in legacy mode) for many months. Sam From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 13 23:20:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2BAE16A409 for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 23:20:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j_guojun@lbl.gov) Received: from smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.208]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B85713C468 for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 23:20:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j_guojun@lbl.gov) Received: (qmail 42268 invoked from network); 13 May 2007 22:53:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.9.8?) (jinmtb@sbcglobal.net@75.37.2.20 with plain) by smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2007 22:53:54 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: ilLHLzEVM1m95oeGkl4LjwCGsRBlxMxyWEAcDR8LDBI_6Ql3p9fXQ5d3eRdtt789TRt0Tv_rsw-- Message-ID: <464795EB.1000004@lbl.gov> Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 15:49:15 -0700 From: Jin Guojun User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060414 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sam Leffler References: <775615123.20070513194957@serebryakov.spb.ru> <464754C6.6050605@errno.com> <116377599.20070513223803@serebryakov.spb.ru> <46479399.7030702@errno.com> In-Reply-To: <46479399.7030702@errno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Lev Serebryakov , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AR5513 chipset (DLink DWL-G520M) support in ath(4)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 23:20:34 -0000 Sam Leffler wrote: >Lev Serebryakov wrote: > > >>Hello Sam, >> >>Sunday, May 13, 2007, 10:11:18 PM, you wrote: >> >> >> >>>>Hello All, >>>> >>>> Is here any work to support newest Atheros chipsets, AR5513, for >>>>example, in ath(4)? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>SL> This is a MIPS-based SoC. Supporting it requires a lot more than just >>SL> ath changes. >> Oops. Year ot two and every chip and card in PC will have its own OS -- GPU, network, sound, etc :) >> There is not documentation/firmware form Atheros, of course? >> >> > >For Atheros SoC = GPU + Wireless h/w. The wireless h/w is not exposed >via PCI bus but sits on an internal bus and is controlled by the GPU >which runs a complete OS like linux or netbsd (and hopefully some day >freebsd). The ath driver just needs the appropriate bus shim to work >and support has been available for a while. > > > >> >> I suppose, that 802.11n draft chipsets are SoCs too? >> >> >> > >The 5416 and 5418 are stock PCI (-express) parts that require the host >to handle much of the 11n protocol. I've given out test hal's that >support these parts (in legacy mode) for many months. > > I was trying to add 5513, 5416/5418 in FreeBSD 6.2 to support these chips but the hal is distributed in binary mode, and I do not have time to rewite whole thing from scratch. That is cool. Where can I get the ATH hal for testing? I have all types of Atheros mini-PCI cards and I can test them on FreeBSD 6.2 (only 6.2-R). -Jin From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 14 05:23:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 066E316A403 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 05:23:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from ftp.translate.ru (ftp.translate.ru [195.131.4.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 826C813C455 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 05:23:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from desktop.home.serebryakov.spb.ru ([89.163.10.141]) (authenticated bits=0) by ftp.translate.ru (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l4E5MYZE002489; Mon, 14 May 2007 09:22:35 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 09:22:23 +0400 From: Lev Serebryakov X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.11.02) Organization: FreeBSD Project X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <348828315.20070514092223@serebryakov.spb.ru> To: Sam Leffler In-Reply-To: <46479399.7030702@errno.com> References: <775615123.20070513194957@serebryakov.spb.ru> <464754C6.6050605@errno.com> <116377599.20070513223803@serebryakov.spb.ru> <46479399.7030702@errno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on ftp.translate.ru Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re[2]: AR5513 chipset (DLink DWL-G520M) support in ath(4)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Lev Serebryakov List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 05:23:12 -0000 Hello Sam, Monday, May 14, 2007, 2:39:21 AM, you wrote: SL> For Atheros SoC = GPU + Wireless h/w. The wireless h/w is not exposed SL> via PCI bus but sits on an internal bus and is controlled by the GPU SL> which runs a complete OS like linux or netbsd (and hopefully some day SL> freebsd). It is very interesting question, why D-Link release simple PCI WiFi adapter on this chipset (DWL-G520M). I've looked at it because it is MIMO-capable -- I have very difficult configuration of walls in one place, and I've thought, that replacing simple DWL-G520 with DWL-G520M will help... I don't need SoC-features and I read about them on Atheros site only after your message... As far, as I understand this SoC was created for home entertiment/media devices, not for WiFi adapters for PC... -- Best regards, Lev mailto:lev@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 14 12:42:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CDF916A403 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 12:42:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@lissyara.su) Received: from mail.moskb.ru (mail.moskb.ru [194.186.170.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5474E13C45A for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 12:42:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@lissyara.su) Received: from [172.29.0.46] (helo=exchserv.MOSKB.LOCAL) by mail.moskb.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HnZZQ-00049l-Kc for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 May 2007 16:22:33 +0400 Received: from xchg.BIZ.MOSKB.LOCAL ([172.29.0.122]) by exchserv.MOSKB.LOCAL with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 14 May 2007 16:23:45 +0400 Received: from lissyara.moskb.local ([172.29.200.3]) by xchg.BIZ.MOSKB.LOCAL with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 14 May 2007 16:23:45 +0400 Message-ID: <464854D1.7000704@lissyara.su> Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 16:23:45 +0400 From: Alex Keda User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070510) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 May 2007 12:23:45.0345 (UTC) FILETIME=[B7680310:01C79622] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "mail.moskb.ru", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 12:42:21 -0000 I install freebsd 6.2 on HP Proliant DL360G5 (2x4 core xeon) and find - it work correct. FreeBSD citrix2.moskb.local 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 12 11:05:30 UTC 2007 root@dessler.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP i386 dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 12 11:05:30 UTC 2007 root@dessler.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5345 @ 2.33GHz (2333.43-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6f7 Stepping = 7 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x4e3bd,CX16,,,> AMD Features=0x20000000 AMD Features2=0x1 Cores per package: 4 real memory = 3487924224 (3326 MB) avail memory = 3413168128 (3255 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 8 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 2 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 3 cpu4 (AP): APIC ID: 4 cpu5 (AP): APIC ID: 5 cpu6 (AP): APIC ID: 6 cpu7 (AP): APIC ID: 7 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 24-47 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.17.2 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x908-0x90b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 cpu1: on acpi0 cpu2: on acpi0 cpu3: on acpi0 cpu4: on acpi0 cpu5: on acpi0 cpu6: on acpi0 cpu7: on acpi0 pcib0: on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 2.0 on pci0 pci9: on pcib1 pcib2: at device 0.0 on pci9 pci10: on pcib2 pcib3: at device 0.0 on pci10 pci11: on pcib3 pcib4: at device 1.0 on pci10 pci14: on pcib4 pcib5: at device 2.0 on pci10 pci15: on pcib5 pcib6: at device 0.3 on pci9 pci16: on pcib6 pcib7: at device 3.0 on pci0 pci6: on pcib7 ciss0: port 0x4000-0x40ff mem 0xfde00000-0xfdefffff,0xfddf0000-0xfddf0fff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci6 ciss0: [GIANT-LOCKED] pcib8: at device 4.0 on pci0 pci19: on pcib8 pcib9: at device 5.0 on pci0 pci22: on pcib9 pcib10: at device 6.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib10 pcib11: at device 0.0 on pci2 pci3: on pcib11 bce0: mem 0xf8000000-0xf9ffffff irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci3 bce0: ASIC ID 0x57081020; Revision (B2); PCI-X 64-bit 133MHz miibus0: on bce0 brgphy0: on miibus0 brgphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX, 1000baseTX-FDX, auto bce0: Ethernet address: 00:1a:4b:d0:55:1e pcib12: at device 7.0 on pci0 pci4: on pcib12 pcib13: at device 0.0 on pci4 pci5: on pcib13 bce1: mem 0xfa000000-0xfbffffff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci5 bce1: ASIC ID 0x57081020; Revision (B2); PCI-X 64-bit 133MHz miibus1: on bce1 brgphy1: on miibus1 brgphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX, 1000baseTX-FDX, auto bce1: Ethernet address: 00:1a:4b:d0:55:0c uhci0: port 0x1000-0x101f irq 16 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0x1020-0x103f irq 17 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0x1040-0x105f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci3: port 0x1060-0x107f irq 19 at device 29.3 on pci0 uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb3: on uhci3 usb3: USB revision 1.0 uhub3: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xf7df0000-0xf7df03ff irq 16 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb4: waiting for BIOS to give up control usb4: EHCI version 1.0 usb4: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3 usb4: on ehci0 usb4: USB revision 2.0 uhub4: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered pcib14: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib14 pci1: at device 3.0 (no driver attached) pci1: at device 4.0 (no driver attached) pci1: at device 4.2 (no driver attached) uhci4: port 0x3800-0x381f irq 22 at device 4.4 on pci1 uhci4: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb5: on uhci4 usb5: USB revision 1.0 uhub5: (0x103c) UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub5: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pci1: at device 4.6 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x500-0x50f irq 17 at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata1: on atapci0 acpi_tz0: on acpi0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 sio0: port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xcafff,0xe6000-0xe7fff on isa0 ppc0: parallel port not found. sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 ukbd0: HP Virtual Keyboard, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 2, iclass 3/1 kbd2 at ukbd0 ums0: HP Virtual Keyboard, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 2, iclass 3/1 ums0: 3 buttons. uhub6: HP Virtual Hub, class 9/0, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 3 uhub6: 7 ports with 7 removable, self powered Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec acd0: CDRW at ata0-master UDMA33 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #7 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #6 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #5 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #4 Launched! da0 at ciss0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-5 device da0: 135.168MB/s transfers da0: 139947MB (286611840 512 byte sectors: 255H 32S/T 35124C) Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a pciconf -lv: hostb0@pci0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x31fd103c chip=0x25d88086 rev=0xb1 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI pcib1@pci0:2:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000050 chip=0x25e28086 rev=0xb1 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI pcib7@pci0:3:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000050 chip=0x25e38086 rev=0xb1 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI pcib8@pci0:4:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000050 chip=0x25f88086 rev=0xb1 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI pcib9@pci0:5:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000050 chip=0x25e58086 rev=0xb1 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI pcib10@pci0:6:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000050 chip=0x25e68086 rev=0xb1 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI pcib12@pci0:7:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000050 chip=0x25e78086 rev=0xb1 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI hostb1@pci0:16:0: class=0x060000 card=0x31fd103c chip=0x25f08086 rev=0xb1 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI hostb2@pci0:16:1: class=0x060000 card=0x31fd103c chip=0x25f08086 rev=0xb1 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI hostb3@pci0:16:2: class=0x060000 card=0x31fd103c chip=0x25f08086 rev=0xb1 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI hostb4@pci0:17:0: class=0x060000 card=0x31fd103c chip=0x25f18086 rev=0xb1 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI hostb5@pci0:19:0: class=0x060000 card=0x31fd103c chip=0x25f38086 rev=0xb1 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI hostb6@pci0:21:0: class=0x060000 card=0x31fd103c chip=0x25f58086 rev=0xb1 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI hostb7@pci0:22:0: class=0x060000 card=0x31fd103c chip=0x25f68086 rev=0xb1 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI uhci0@pci0:29:0: class=0x0c0300 card=0x31fe103c chip=0x26888086 rev=0x09 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci1@pci0:29:1: class=0x0c0300 card=0x31fe103c chip=0x26898086 rev=0x09 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci2@pci0:29:2: class=0x0c0300 card=0x31fe103c chip=0x268a8086 rev=0x09 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci3@pci0:29:3: class=0x0c0300 card=0x31fe103c chip=0x268b8086 rev=0x09 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = serial bus subclass = USB ehci0@pci0:29:7: class=0x0c0320 card=0x31fe103c chip=0x268c8086 rev=0x09 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = serial bus subclass = USB pcib14@pci0:30:0: class=0x060401 card=0x00000050 chip=0x244e8086 rev=0xd9 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801BA/CA/DB/DBL/EB/ER/FB (ICH2/3/4/4/5/5/6), 6300ESB Hub Interface to PCI Bridge' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI isab0@pci0:31:0: class=0x060100 card=0x00000000 chip=0x26708086 rev=0x09 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = bridge subclass = PCI-ISA atapci0@pci0:31:1: class=0x01018a card=0x31fe103c chip=0x269e8086 rev=0x09 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = mass storage subclass = ATA pcib2@pci9:0:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000044 chip=0x35008086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI pcib6@pci9:0:3: class=0x060400 card=0x00000044 chip=0x350c8086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI pcib3@pci10:0:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000044 chip=0x35108086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI pcib4@pci10:1:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000044 chip=0x35148086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI pcib5@pci10:2:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000044 chip=0x35188086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI ciss0@pci6:0:0: class=0x010400 card=0x3235103c chip=0x3230103c rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Hewlett-Packard Company' class = mass storage subclass = RAID pcib11@pci2:0:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000060 chip=0x01031166 rev=0xc3 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'ServerWorks (Was: Reliance Computer Corp)' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI bce0@pci3:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x7038103c chip=0x164c14e4 rev=0x12 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation' class = network subclass = ethernet pcib13@pci4:0:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000060 chip=0x01031166 rev=0xc3 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'ServerWorks (Was: Reliance Computer Corp)' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI bce1@pci5:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x7038103c chip=0x164c14e4 rev=0x12 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation' class = network subclass = ethernet none0@pci1:3:0: class=0x030000 card=0x31fb103c chip=0x515e1002 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'ATI Technologies Inc' class = display subclass = VGA none1@pci1:4:0: class=0x088000 card=0x3305103c chip=0xb2030e11 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Compaq Computer Corp (Now owned by Hewlett-Packard)' device = 'iLo Integrated Lights Out Processor' class = base peripheral none2@pci1:4:2: class=0x088000 card=0x3305103c chip=0xb2040e11 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Compaq Computer Corp (Now owned by Hewlett-Packard)' device = 'iLo Integrated Lights Out Processor' class = base peripheral uhci4@pci1:4:4: class=0x0c0300 card=0x3305103c chip=0x3300103c rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Hewlett-Packard Company' class = serial bus subclass = USB none3@pci1:4:6: class=0x0c0701 card=0x3305103c chip=0x3302103c rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Hewlett-Packard Company' class = serial bus From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 14 13:32:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F73616A400 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 13:32:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from om-lists-bsd@omx.ch) Received: from omega.omnis.ch (omega.omnis.ch [195.134.143.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AAA1313C46A for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 13:32:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from om-lists-bsd@omx.ch) Received: (qmail 18146 invoked from network); 14 May 2007 13:05:20 -0000 Received: from bigapple.omnis.ch ([195.134.148.35]) by omega.omnis.ch ([195.134.143.43]) with ESMTP via TCP; 14 May 2007 13:05:20 -0000 From: Olivier Mueller To: Alex Keda In-Reply-To: <464854D1.7000704@lissyara.su> References: <464854D1.7000704@lissyara.su> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 15:05:21 +0200 Message-Id: <1179147921.8027.33.camel@bigapple.omnis.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.2 on HP Proliant DL360G5 works correct. X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 13:32:20 -0000 On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 16:23 +0400, Alex Keda wrote: > I install freebsd 6.2 on HP Proliant DL360G5 (2x4 core xeon) and find - > it work correct. > real memory = 3487924224 (3326 MB) > avail memory = 3413168128 (3255 MB) "only" 3GB RAM for such a server? :-) If it's not the case, I'd suggest to add PAE support, or to switch to an amd64 kernel... regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 14 17:10:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD50F16A400 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 17:10:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mex@active.sk) Received: from s1.active.sk (ns.active.sk [217.67.25.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9944513C448 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 17:10:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mex@active.sk) Received: from localhost (localhost.active.sk [127.0.0.1]) by s1.active.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 844D65C105 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 18:51:24 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at active.sk Received: from s1.active.sk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.active.sk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pzOa9BtYXoR4 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 18:51:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.active.sk (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by s1.active.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B9785C102 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 18:51:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from prx.spordat.sk ([85.248.64.126]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user mex@active.sk) by mail.active.sk with HTTP; Mon, 14 May 2007 18:51:21 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <41936.85.248.64.126.1179161481.squirrel@mail.active.sk> In-Reply-To: <1179147921.8027.33.camel@bigapple.omnis.ch> References: <464854D1.7000704@lissyara.su> <1179147921.8027.33.camel@bigapple.omnis.ch> Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 18:51:21 +0200 (CEST) From: "MeX" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.2 on HP Proliant DL360G5 works correct. X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mex@active.sk List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 17:10:20 -0000 On Pon, Máj 14, 2007 15:05, Olivier Mueller wrote: > On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 16:23 +0400, Alex Keda wrote: >> I install freebsd 6.2 on HP Proliant DL360G5 (2x4 core xeon) and find - >> it work correct. >> real memory = 3487924224 (3326 MB) >> avail memory = 3413168128 (3255 MB) > > "only" 3GB RAM for such a server? :-) If it's not the case, > I'd suggest to add PAE support, or to switch to an amd64 kernel... > > regards, > Olivier I can only recommend switch to amd64 kernel, PAE is IMHO only such kind of hack that is sometimes working. And also try to off HT (HyperThreading) in BIOS. There are some voices and also my own experience that FreeBSD SMP (5.x, 6.x) is working better without HT (HT should be off). Maybe you can find also some benchmarks that this can proof. Or try to do some your own real-application benchmark. Regards MeX From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 14 21:33:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0BDC16A400 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 21:33:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63E5B13C44C for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 21:33:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l4ELXfeM036449; Mon, 14 May 2007 17:33:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 17:29:18 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <874E95E3-7B65-4704-BA5D-3086CC055111@via.net> <1155165073.22623.12.camel@bigapple.omnis.ch> In-Reply-To: <1155165073.22623.12.camel@bigapple.omnis.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200705141729.19179.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 14 May 2007 17:33:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.3/3243/Mon May 14 06:49:49 2007 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: joe mcguckin , Olivier Mueller Subject: Re: Dell 1950 won't cleanly reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 21:33:46 -0000 On Wednesday 09 August 2006 07:11:13 pm Olivier Mueller wrote: > hello, > > On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 17:43 -0700, joe mcguckin wrote: > > shutdown -r hangs most of the time. > > I have a spare machine to lend someone in the SF bay area if that > > would help... > > Have you made any progress on this issue yet? Are people still seeing this issue? I MFC'd some recent fixes to the shutdown code a week or so ago that may or may not help. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 15 05:42:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4177B16A402 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 05:42:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@seaholm.caamora.com.au) Received: from seaholm.caamora.com.au (seaholm.caamora.com.au [203.7.226.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF5F13C458 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 05:42:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@seaholm.caamora.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by seaholm.caamora.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) id l4F59MG13708; Tue, 15 May 2007 15:09:22 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <20070515150921.13486@caamora.com.au> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 15:09:21 +1000 From: jonathan michaels To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e Organisation: Caamora, PO Box 144, Rosebery NSW 1445 Australia Subject: compaq proliant 1850r X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 05:42:55 -0000 greetings, i have recently aquired a compaq proliant 1850r it has 640 mb dram (i hape to upgrade this to 4 gb, if this is possible) a PIII 600 mhz cpu (this to be replace by a pair of xeon 550 mhz PIII, again if possible) it has a compaq smart array 221 controller with a pair of 9 gb scsi uw2 drivers. it has been partitioned into two (2) logical drives with ms windows nt v4 installed on drive 1 and i hope to install freebsd on drive 2, currently it has a problem, freebsd boots and reports all as it shout, except for an acpi error and an RSVD error bad checksum error (224) ?? it also reports "No SCSI drives found" and locks up solid when the boot process get to teh detect the keyboar .. it stops dead in its tracks. there is no responce at all .. no keyboard responce at all. the only way i can get the machine back is by rebooting. this is my first "server' grade machine and i have no idea how to troubleshoot diagnose what is going on here .. till now i have been using a couple of intel 386dx33 and 486dx33 and 486dx50 using freebsd v2.2.5-release and v2.2.7-release, i have been using these machines for nearly 27 years and freebsd well since it started and i stttled on v2.2 came out. but now is about time that i moved on and upgraded. i also have a 5500r as well and freensd installed a treat on that it has similar configuration, 4 gb dram 4 xeon 550 PIII and 90 gb scsi uw3 raid5 array .. it also reports a faulty acpi . i don't understand but it seems to cause no problems, unlike the 1850r which seems to just lock up afte it detects the keyboard ??? any thoughts, suggenstions pointer most appreciated. most kind regards jonathan -- ================================================================ powered by .. QNX, OS9 and freeBSD -- http://caamora com au/operating system ==== === appropriate solution in an inappropriate world === ==== From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 15 08:17:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E945416A403; Tue, 15 May 2007 08:17:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jason.thomson@mintel.com) Received: from s200aog11.obsmtp.com (s200aog11.obsmtp.com [207.126.144.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7372F13C448; Tue, 15 May 2007 08:17:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jason.thomson@mintel.com) Received: from source ([217.206.187.80]) by eu1sys200aob011.postini.com ([207.126.147.11]) with SMTP; Tue, 15 May 2007 08:17:29 UTC Received: from [10.0.62.5] (unknown [10.0.62.5]) by rodney.mintel.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 588F918141B; Tue, 15 May 2007 08:46:09 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <46496540.1000202@mintel.com> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 08:46:08 +0100 From: Jason Thomson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Baldwin References: <874E95E3-7B65-4704-BA5D-3086CC055111@via.net> <1155165073.22623.12.camel@bigapple.omnis.ch> <200705141729.19179.jhb@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <200705141729.19179.jhb@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: joe mcguckin , Olivier Mueller , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dell 1950 won't cleanly reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 08:17:52 -0000 John Baldwin wrote: > On Wednesday 09 August 2006 07:11:13 pm Olivier Mueller wrote: > >>hello, >> >>On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 17:43 -0700, joe mcguckin wrote: >> >>>shutdown -r hangs most of the time. >>>I have a spare machine to lend someone in the SF bay area if that >>>would help... >> >>Have you made any progress on this issue yet? > > > Are people still seeing this issue? I MFC'd some recent fixes to the shutdown > code a week or so ago that may or may not help. > It was a while ago now, but IIRC: We had some problems with these machines until we re-enabled the keyboard controller. (They come with USB keyboards, and the RAC simulates a USB controller, but the atkbdc driver is involved in resetting the machine?) This is from a January 07 build, so doesn't include latest patches. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 16 00:00:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FFE316A400 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 00:00:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4047613C455 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 00:00:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l4G00flh046149; Tue, 15 May 2007 20:00:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: Jason Thomson Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 17:56:24 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <874E95E3-7B65-4704-BA5D-3086CC055111@via.net> <200705141729.19179.jhb@freebsd.org> <46496540.1000202@mintel.com> In-Reply-To: <46496540.1000202@mintel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200705151756.24715.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 15 May 2007 20:00:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.3/3249/Tue May 15 17:16:41 2007 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: joe mcguckin , Olivier Mueller , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dell 1950 won't cleanly reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 00:00:50 -0000 On Tuesday 15 May 2007 03:46:08 am Jason Thomson wrote: > John Baldwin wrote: > > > On Wednesday 09 August 2006 07:11:13 pm Olivier Mueller wrote: > > > >>hello, > >> > >>On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 17:43 -0700, joe mcguckin wrote: > >> > >>>shutdown -r hangs most of the time. > >>>I have a spare machine to lend someone in the SF bay area if that > >>>would help... > >> > >>Have you made any progress on this issue yet? > > > > > > Are people still seeing this issue? I MFC'd some recent fixes to the shutdown > > code a week or so ago that may or may not help. > > > > It was a while ago now, but IIRC: > > We had some problems with these machines until we re-enabled the > keyboard controller. > > (They come with USB keyboards, and the RAC simulates a USB controller, > but the atkbdc driver is involved in resetting the machine?) > > This is from a January 07 build, so doesn't include latest patches. Ok, in that case these patches might indeed fix the issue, as they fixed bugs where the system wouldn't reboot if the keyboard controller reset failed. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 07:06:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3882216A405 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 07:06:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from biogary@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACAAD13C468 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 07:06:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from biogary@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so231533ugh for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 00:06:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=R7qSInVcQzBFPwZsvzrGnvv2tNOmxAEK1arm6K9jKuq9y0B1b3uMPsbQC7O1c0JkBqAMaG5Q5ErsYUjaURO9Xm6C3Sddn1De9a339LcW9v/T5xNvLx+6krAbE9d5QC//ArBzwQm0RJp/wc7PnqG/1gmfce7dmRULWTwf04hclRA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=mitdZpE3qLLTQbnBQdlGNNBbPYPOlulLmoCAOMYBT3LMbIZHZFNtbXiC/eX+TM+TEZjfO6C/AgSsTgzQ67y7hhlpUMrxfXQXZIi0vLLQYIjiOnczufL2i4RBu/8jRyhfF06FsQdQuRVbrHPRzT6PAXYL0BCERXQlwFUOIbiU+Ys= Received: by 10.67.105.19 with SMTP id h19mr55094ugm.1179385575423; Thu, 17 May 2007 00:06:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.119.11 with HTTP; Thu, 17 May 2007 00:06:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <224a745a0705170006t3a1df03cv5312bf6fc86ee426@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 15:06:15 +0800 From: "Tzu-Hua Wang" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: messages from dmesg -- (HP ProLiant DL380 G5) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: thwang@mail.nhcue.edu.tw List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 07:06:17 -0000 *Dear All:* *I have bought HP ProLiant DL380 G5. The SAS Controller is Smart Array P400 (256MB).* *I can setup FreeBSD 6.2R successfully and everything is OK. * *However, I found that there is an amazing message in the dmesg:* *ciss0: port 0x4000-0x40ff mem 0xfde00000-0xfdefffff,0xfddf 0000-0xfddf0fff irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci6 ciss0: [GIANT-LOCKED]* *--->**Smart Array P400 is activated by ciss0 successfully* *da0 at ciss0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: 135.168MB/s transfers da0: 419946MB (860051248 512 byte sectors: 255H 32S/T 65535C)* *--->**The Raid 5 configuration seems ok. However, it is ONLY SCSI-0 device* *The transfer speed is so slow... only 135.168MB/s transfers* ** *The output message from 'diskinfo -c /dev/da0' is:* ** */dev/da0 512 # sectorsize 440346238976 # mediasize in bytes (410G) 860051248 # mediasize in sectors 105398 # Cylinders according to firmware. 255 # Heads according to firmware. 32 # Sectors according to firmware. I/O command overhead: time to read 10MB block 0.164235 sec = 0.008msec/sector time to read 20480 sectors 20.531218 sec = 1.003msec/sector calculated command overhead = 0.994msec/sector * *Is it normal? Is there anything wrong on ciss0 driver or the hardware (Smart Array P400 Or SAS HD)?* ** *Thanks..* ** ** * * From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 07:14:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E324C16A400 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 07:14:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65BB413C43E for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 07:14:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l4H7Egiu018379 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 17 May 2007 14:14:43 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.3/8.12.11) id l4H7EgvR082226; Thu, 17 May 2007 14:14:42 +0700 (ICT) Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 14:14:42 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200705170714.l4H7EgvR082226@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: thwang@mail.nhcue.edu.tw In-reply-to: <224a745a0705170006t3a1df03cv5312bf6fc86ee426@mail.gmail.com> (biogary@gmail.com) References: <224a745a0705170006t3a1df03cv5312bf6fc86ee426@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: messages from dmesg -- (HP ProLiant DL380 G5) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 07:14:46 -0000 Hi, > *I can setup FreeBSD 6.2R successfully and everything is OK. * > *However, I found that there is an amazing message in the dmesg:* > > *ciss0: port 0x4000-0x40ff mem > 0xfde00000-0xfdefffff,0xfddf > 0000-0xfddf0fff irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci6 > ciss0: [GIANT-LOCKED]* > > *--->**Smart Array P400 is activated by ciss0 successfully* > > *da0 at ciss0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device > da0: 135.168MB/s transfers > da0: 419946MB (860051248 512 byte sectors: 255H 32S/T 65535C)* Just a wild guess, but if you set-up your disks to be organised into RAID 5 (that is one big disk) it sounds logic that all you can see is one big disk. As for the speed, RAID 5 is not optimized for speed but for reliability while preserving a low ratio of parity vs. data disk. If you are interested with more speed, you may have to select another RAID agregation (this morning I found http://www.acnc.com/04_01_00.html that shows good comparison for every RAID config). Best regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 10:54:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E1A616A400 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 10:54:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from biogary@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A90AE13C45A for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 10:54:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from biogary@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so255459ugh for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 03:54:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=m6KDSb8z1NIvwl36UW8fRQXT9wsFW89fE84buNZPewVnqSGUbfXO+TqO5uIzmiWnLS0HbdVFgO6UhZfpasRpawDkNXIBVskiMBE9jtdW7JxxMPo9FP16Xu9TyvkIM/YDVgS+cttzKNJh/1fjcanita1x6TdKOVKM89qlHu8YuXY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=CWk1aoLfVQN0Po9qdVS2vhjp+x/RcyiXFK3FNmVR7MXzDRRaoqjhPD76Kk3XsP+kXAM8WuHH+5/MqP4TIAW/hwsgV7FVKsQ5YfHhRDNxtasV5PKOsMmsA1p6ojUk7ul1Gks4X3FoRgwcZrAb+Sv0wZXM8doeXi/vQb1BXLSQpLQ= Received: by 10.67.30.3 with SMTP id h3mr182908ugj.1179399297340; Thu, 17 May 2007 03:54:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.119.11 with HTTP; Thu, 17 May 2007 03:54:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <224a745a0705170354i31fc311bsf502aba056e4c73c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 18:54:57 +0800 From: "Tzu-Hua Wang" To: "Olivier Nicole" In-Reply-To: <200705170714.l4H7EgvR082226@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <224a745a0705170006t3a1df03cv5312bf6fc86ee426@mail.gmail.com> <200705170714.l4H7EgvR082226@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: messages from dmesg -- (HP ProLiant DL380 G5) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: thwang@mail.nhcue.edu.tw List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 10:54:59 -0000 Hi: Thank you for your response. I had tried to configure the first SAS HD as RAID 0 before. The RAID 0 SAS HD was also recognized as SCSI-0 device. I think the problem is not on the size of RAID 5 HD. Thanks 2007/5/17, Olivier Nicole : > > Hi, > > > *I can setup FreeBSD 6.2R successfully and everything is OK. * > > *However, I found that there is an amazing message in the dmesg:* > > > > *ciss0: port 0x4000-0x40ff mem > > 0xfde00000-0xfdefffff,0xfddf > > 0000-0xfddf0fff irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci6 > > ciss0: [GIANT-LOCKED]* > > > > *--->**Smart Array P400 is activated by ciss0 successfully* > > > > *da0 at ciss0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device > > da0: 135.168MB/s transfers > > da0: 419946MB (860051248 512 byte sectors: 255H 32S/T 65535C)* > > Just a wild guess, but if you set-up your disks to be organised into > RAID 5 (that is one big disk) it sounds logic that all you can see is > one big disk. > > As for the speed, RAID 5 is not optimized for speed but for > reliability while preserving a low ratio of parity vs. data disk. > > If you are interested with more speed, you may have to select another > RAID agregation (this morning I found > http://www.acnc.com/04_01_00.html that shows good comparison for every > RAID config). > > Best regards, > > Olivier > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 10:57:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B9116A402 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 10:57:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from biogary@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D05A13C457 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 10:57:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from biogary@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so255732ugh for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 03:57:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Y9O0KoHSM6kicO4UlnU9ot+YA01l6bZI+RHIjmKZjtZcgFEM32wRM+6DDZlEciTZjvbbgOQi/0QGIT4GgJGebYYULW/+V9nnC386LLjDx/P1A6GThXphI4db7u96DygXlB+6XkvJVt6cjFZk/EB5Ym0JuFQUz3DBVVPucJ9WL6U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=oOWdTVzjF1yGjZVuC0gVaE585k4rMtuZbKc5igf89mjpTkYYnL5/WcoUhphc+Px98ZD9CD/4iyIK2Dc/yXZhRhUD0jYp5Z/maKFmRQLCGTc8MqglPNbTfIKtDc3GqZkXAlvn6PYuPMWWAqddP/l6RSYNmtHdIeOqcxz3iHlgyJs= Received: by 10.67.121.18 with SMTP id y18mr214883ugm.1179399428100; Thu, 17 May 2007 03:57:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.119.11 with HTTP; Thu, 17 May 2007 03:57:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <224a745a0705170357i2642a964lbab821ff03bdfef2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 18:57:08 +0800 From: "Tzu-Hua Wang" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: About the SWAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: thwang@mail.nhcue.edu.tw List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 10:57:09 -0000 Hi, I added 2G RAM to my server. Is it necessary for me to alter the size of SWAP? My SWAP is 4G originally. Thank you for your response in advance. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 11:24:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5B216A400 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 11:24:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patpro@patpro.net) Received: from postfix2-g20.free.fr (postfix2-g20.free.fr [212.27.60.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23BA413C45A for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 11:24:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patpro@patpro.net) Received: from smtp1-g19.free.fr (smtp1-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.27]) by postfix2-g20.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADB0710569D6 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 12:03:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from boleskine.patpro.net (boleskine.patpro.net [82.235.12.223]) by smtp1-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA53B934E; Thu, 17 May 2007 13:03:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (cassandre [192.168.0.2]) by boleskine.patpro.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD8D928433; Thu, 17 May 2007 13:03:18 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <224a745a0705170357i2642a964lbab821ff03bdfef2@mail.gmail.com> References: <224a745a0705170357i2642a964lbab821ff03bdfef2@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--770859220; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Message-Id: <0B30DCC1-76E1-4A7B-9564-9F20490FB2A7@patpro.net> From: Patrick Proniewski Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 13:03:23 +0200 To: thwang@mail.nhcue.edu.tw, "Tzu-Hua Wang" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: About the SWAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 11:24:42 -0000 --Apple-Mail-2--770859220 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi, On 17 mai 2007, at 12:57, Tzu-Hua Wang wrote: > I added 2G RAM to my server. Is it necessary for me to alter the > size of > SWAP? > My SWAP is 4G originally. A 4GB swap is way enough, and the more you add RAM, the less you need swap ;) patpro --Apple-Mail-2--770859220-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 22:33:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F034716A400 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 22:33:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tim@spyderweb.com.au) Received: from ipmail03.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail03.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410E413C45B for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 22:33:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tim@spyderweb.com.au) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.14,550,1170595800"; d="scan'208";a="90964702" Received: from ppp100-124.static.internode.on.net (HELO mail.biocentral-labs.com) ([150.101.100.124]) by ipmail03.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 18 May 2007 07:47:53 +0930 Received: from [192.168.0.93] (port=59351 helo=bofh.spyderweb.com.au) by mail.biocentral-labs.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HooI7-000DvK-Ju; Fri, 18 May 2007 07:47:52 +0930 Message-ID: <464CD452.4020200@spyderweb.com.au> Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 07:46:50 +0930 From: Tim Aslat User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070507) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thwang@mail.nhcue.edu.tw References: <224a745a0705170357i2642a964lbab821ff03bdfef2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <224a745a0705170357i2642a964lbab821ff03bdfef2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "mail.biocentral-labs.com", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see The administrator of that system for details. Content preview: In the immortal words of Tzu-Hua Wang on 05/17/07 20:27: > Hi, > I added 2G RAM to my server. Is it necessary for me to alter the size of > SWAP? > My SWAP is 4G originally. Does this mean you now have 2G or you have 2G more ram? [...] Content analysis details: (-4.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.8 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: About the SWAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 22:33:12 -0000 In the immortal words of Tzu-Hua Wang on 05/17/07 20:27: > Hi, > I added 2G RAM to my server. Is it necessary for me to alter the size of > SWAP? > My SWAP is 4G originally. Does this mean you now have 2G or you have 2G more ram? Typically, the rule of thumb is you need at least 1Mb more swap than you have actual ram. Something to do with system core-dumps, or some such. I forget exactly what the the reason was, but it's still a good idea to have more swap than physical memory, even if it's only a slightly larger. Maybe it was hibernation or something like that. Must go back and read up on it again Cheers Tim -- Tim Aslat Spyderweb Consulting http://www.spyderweb.com.au Mobile: +61 0401088479 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 18 00:46:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D64A016A401 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 00:46:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from biogary@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ECC613C44B for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 00:46:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from biogary@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so370161ugh for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 17:46:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=J96cETjFy5JoWoNsh4pXkuGlC/2mNO6vpA1nwoF+R80p9zoBJFZRB/S5wDRW7KaW8ZmVieHbs5cn+iXYZiNamgyD5kJ4oAJBejLjiBP5cwySwNXhicJ4QLrt5R5IGL+uKaYDek8lWlP2FuoQi2Q7p6+AmECd+o0jqrQuTqoy89c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=hWXuflGG9gdNmwQvTqZufWtm4Vbfx7fV4st2IF/EsccP8d97waoRZlgzDCo+7h7az29HBeCSItmcMZWasYeILWLzeLaeLwL+xOEtNVqk2pIE8Q4C9JMq36lLKcXzm0gegobUYKWw8ckXkXfDrY4xA83VouqtyMwVLuYeh73dQ8E= Received: by 10.66.254.2 with SMTP id b2mr666039ugi.1179449176347; Thu, 17 May 2007 17:46:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.119.11 with HTTP; Thu, 17 May 2007 17:46:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <224a745a0705171746v2a60f8a9jabbeee2aee4e33a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 08:46:15 +0800 From: "Tzu-Hua Wang" To: "Tim Aslat" In-Reply-To: <464CD452.4020200@spyderweb.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <224a745a0705170357i2642a964lbab821ff03bdfef2@mail.gmail.com> <464CD452.4020200@spyderweb.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: About the SWAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: thwang@mail.nhcue.edu.tw List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 00:46:19 -0000 Hi, I have 4G RAM totally. The SWAP is now 4G now. Is it ok? Thanks 2007/5/18, Tim Aslat : > > In the immortal words of Tzu-Hua Wang on 05/17/07 20:27: > > Hi, > > I added 2G RAM to my server. Is it necessary for me to alter the size of > > SWAP? > > My SWAP is 4G originally. > > Does this mean you now have 2G or you have 2G more ram? > > Typically, the rule of thumb is you need at least 1Mb more swap than you > have actual ram. Something to do with system core-dumps, or some such. > I forget exactly what the the reason was, but it's still a good idea to > have more swap than physical memory, even if it's only a slightly larger. > > Maybe it was hibernation or something like that. Must go back and read > up on it again > > Cheers > > Tim > > -- > Tim Aslat > Spyderweb Consulting > http://www.spyderweb.com.au > Mobile: +61 0401088479 > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 18 01:16:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1CEA16A407 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 01:16:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from biogary@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46BB613C469 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 01:16:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from biogary@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so372724ugh for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 18:16:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=sqBmwUqwAx/jUEyvwOEQHl4ICRaydo9zdovSYspEuyN84kUhEAcRGml4PxA995cGdZq2wps52t9DbY6KfcdnebFuHSTF+Ipvoq7BoHsDCwJJQUX2U1Glr0coOEWY1M9zrNSrMFwx4W8GlXd4R+7itiDbRXurwQhwMQycyIBIteY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=KjibRY/CFjoorltR9JjaV9RTFaMYVnTVZtMvVqKtB262Mg6JNP5ry6fibCOY5aLPZyoBtUXLWCu2NViMYDgXdJyiF9f+3bbrw0NQeUwjDZnHh0XeR9VgP5LSYaMqLi0Wp0dR1Uv89cgebUd4ZXnrKItx2bYI3Y0Zm8VdjfPtCWs= Received: by 10.66.236.13 with SMTP id j13mr650190ugh.1179450999770; Thu, 17 May 2007 18:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.119.11 with HTTP; Thu, 17 May 2007 18:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <224a745a0705171816u37935b3amfb40be7390b8d2f0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 09:16:39 +0800 From: "Tzu-Hua Wang" To: Simon In-Reply-To: <464cf944.5a5a514d.1446.ffff9bf5SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <224a745a0705171746v2a60f8a9jabbeee2aee4e33a@mail.gmail.com> <464cf944.5a5a514d.1446.ffff9bf5SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: About the SWAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: thwang@mail.nhcue.edu.tw List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 01:16:41 -0000 Hi Simon, Thank you for your response. Actually, when I setuped the FreeBSD 6.2R and used the default slice configuration for my hard disk, FreeBSD suggested that the SWAP should be 4G (with 4G RAM). I had had the same suggestion when I had 2 G RAM before. Thank you for your response again. 2007/5/18, Simon : > > > There is nothing wrong with this. The only reason for 2x swap is so you > could > dump kernel image should you want to debug a crash. Otherwise, if you ask > me, 4GB of swap is waste of disk space, but then again, nowadays > harddrives > are so large that it doesn't really matter. > > -Simon > > On Fri, 18 May 2007 08:46:15 +0800, Tzu-Hua Wang wrote: > > >Hi, > >I have 4G RAM totally. > >The SWAP is now 4G now. > >Is it ok? > > > >Thanks > > > > > >2007/5/18, Tim Aslat < > *tim@spyderweb.com.au*>: > >> > >> In the immortal words of Tzu-Hua Wang on 05/17/07 20:27: > >> > Hi, > >> > I added 2G RAM to my server. Is it necessary for me to alter the size > of > >> > SWAP? > >> > My SWAP is 4G originally. > >> > >> Does this mean you now have 2G or you have 2G more ram? > >> > >> Typically, the rule of thumb is you need at least 1Mb more swap than > you > >> have actual ram. Something to do with system core-dumps, or some such. > >> I forget exactly what the the reason was, but it's still a good idea to > >> have more swap than physical memory, even if it's only a slightly > larger. > >> > >> Maybe it was hibernation or something like that. Must go back and read > >> up on it again > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> Tim > >> > >> -- > >> Tim Aslat < > *tim@spyderweb.com.au*> > >> Spyderweb Consulting > >> *http://www.spyderweb.com.au* > >> Mobile: +61 0401088479 > >> > >_______________________________________________ > >*freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org* mailing list > >*http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware* > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "* > freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org*" > > > > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 18 01:21:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 980F016A400 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 01:21:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: from cobra.acceleratedweb.net (cobra-gw.acceleratedweb.net [207.99.79.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5621313C458 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 01:21:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: (qmail 6275 invoked by uid 110); 18 May 2007 00:54:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO desktop1) (simon%optinet.com@69.112.29.182) by cobra.acceleratedweb.net with SMTP; 18 May 2007 00:54:27 -0000 From: "Simon" To: "Tzu-Hua Wang" Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 20:56:33 -0400 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2717) For Windows 2000 (5.1.2600;2) In-Reply-To: <224a745a0705171746v2a60f8a9jabbeee2aee4e33a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20070518012109.5621313C458@mx1.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: About the SWAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 01:21:09 -0000 There is nothing wrong with this. The only reason for 2x swap is so you could dump kernel image should you want to debug a crash. Otherwise, if you ask me, 4GB of swap is waste of disk space, but then again, nowadays harddrives are so large that it doesn't really matter. -Simon On Fri, 18 May 2007 08:46:15 +0800, Tzu-Hua Wang wrote: >Hi, >I have 4G RAM totally. >The SWAP is now 4G now. >Is it ok? >Thanks >2007/5/18, Tim Aslat : >> >> In the immortal words of Tzu-Hua Wang on 05/17/07 20:27: >> > Hi, >> > I added 2G RAM to my server. Is it necessary for me to alter the size of >> > SWAP? >> > My SWAP is 4G originally. >> >> Does this mean you now have 2G or you have 2G more ram? >> >> Typically, the rule of thumb is you need at least 1Mb more swap than you >> have actual ram. Something to do with system core-dumps, or some such. >> I forget exactly what the the reason was, but it's still a good idea to >> have more swap than physical memory, even if it's only a slightly larger. >> >> Maybe it was hibernation or something like that. Must go back and read >> up on it again >> >> Cheers >> >> Tim >> >> -- >> Tim Aslat >> Spyderweb Consulting >> http://www.spyderweb.com.au >> Mobile: +61 0401088479 >> >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 18 01:35:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC19516A403 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 01:35:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: from cobra.acceleratedweb.net (cobra-gw.acceleratedweb.net [207.99.79.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 538FF13C43E for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 01:35:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: (qmail 13325 invoked by uid 110); 18 May 2007 01:35:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO desktop1) (simon%optinet.com@69.112.29.182) by cobra.acceleratedweb.net with SMTP; 18 May 2007 01:35:46 -0000 From: "Simon" To: "Tzu-Hua Wang" Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 21:37:55 -0400 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2717) For Windows 2000 (5.1.2600;2) In-Reply-To: <224a745a0705171816u37935b3amfb40be7390b8d2f0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20070518013547.538FF13C43E@mx1.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: About the SWAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 01:35:47 -0000 I made a mistake, I meant to say 1x the total memory. Swap is very slow, you don't want continuous swapping on your server as this will slow things down tremendously. -Simon --Original Message Text--- From: Tzu-Hua Wang Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 09:16:39 +0800 Hi Simon, Thank you for your response. Actually, when I setuped the FreeBSD 6.2R and used the default slice configuration for my hard disk, FreeBSD suggested that the SWAP should be 4G (with 4G RAM). I had had the same suggestion when I had 2 G RAM before. Thank you for your response again. 2007/5/18, Simon : There is nothing wrong with this. The only reason for 2x swap is so you could dump kernel image should you want to debug a crash. Otherwise, if you ask me, 4GB of swap is waste of disk space, but then again, nowadays harddrives are so large that it doesn't really matter. -Simon On Fri, 18 May 2007 08:46:15 +0800, Tzu-Hua Wang wrote: >Hi, >I have 4G RAM totally. >The SWAP is now 4G now. >Is it ok? >Thanks >2007/5/18, Tim Aslat < tim@spyderweb.com.au >: >> >> In the immortal words of Tzu-Hua Wang on 05/17/07 20:27: >> > Hi, >> > I added 2G RAM to my server. Is it necessary for me to alter the size of >> > SWAP? >> > My SWAP is 4G originally. >> >> Does this mean you now have 2G or you have 2G more ram? >> >> Typically, the rule of thumb is you need at least 1Mb more swap than you >> have actual ram. Something to do with system core-dumps, or some such. >> I forget exactly what the the reason was, but it's still a good idea to >> have more swap than physical memory, even if it's only a slightly larger. >> >> Maybe it was hibernation or something like that. Must go back and read >> up on it again >> >> Cheers >> >> Tim >> >> -- >> Tim Aslat < tim@spyderweb.com.au> >> Spyderweb Consulting >> http://www.spyderweb.com.au >> Mobile: +61 0401088479 >> >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware >To unsubscribe, send any mail to " freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 18 03:18:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF02516A401 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 03:18:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7033413C447 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 03:18:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l4I3Imgu009320 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:48 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.3/8.12.11) id l4I3Ii4T096608; Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:44 +0700 (ICT) Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:44 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200705180318.l4I3Ii4T096608@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: thwang@mail.nhcue.edu.tw In-reply-to: <224a745a0705170354i31fc311bsf502aba056e4c73c@mail.gmail.com> (biogary@gmail.com) References: <224a745a0705170006t3a1df03cv5312bf6fc86ee426@mail.gmail.com> <200705170714.l4H7EgvR082226@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <224a745a0705170354i31fc311bsf502aba056e4c73c@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: messages from dmesg -- (HP ProLiant DL380 G5) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 03:18:52 -0000 Hi, > I had tried to configure the first SAS HD as RAID 0 before. The RAID 0 > SAS HD was also > recognized as SCSI-0 device. I am a bit puzzled. How can you configure ONE disk in RAID. AFAIK, any RAID configuration needs a minimum of two disks. > I think the problem is not on the size of RAID 5 HD. I never mentionned anything about the size, I just said that inherently, RAID 5 has slow transfer. If you need faster transfer, you may think about a different RAID architecture. Best regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 18 22:33:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E2116A404 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 22:33:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spork@bway.net) Received: from xena.bway.net (xena.bway.net [216.220.96.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DF9113C459 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 22:33:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spork@bway.net) Received: (qmail 91184 invoked by uid 0); 18 May 2007 22:05:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gee5.nat.fasttrackmonkey.com) (216.220.116.154) by smtp.bway.net with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 18 May 2007 22:05:28 -0000 Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 18:06:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Charles Sprickman X-X-Sender: spork@gee5.nat.fasttrackmonkey.com To: hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Recommended SATA controllers X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 22:33:28 -0000 Hi all, I have a fairly nice dual-xeon Supermicro 1U that needs some parts. It has onboard PATA and I'd like to throw some SATA drives in and get an SATA backplane for it (machine has hot swap bays, it's missing any sort of backplane). I'll need to put some kind of SATA controller in there. What can I buy that's known to be very stable under 6.2? I recall that in the past some onboard SATA controllers were a little sketchy... Thanks, Charles From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 18 23:11:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD52D16A409 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 23:11:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@stringsutils.com) Received: from zoraida.natserv.net (p65-147.acedsl.com [66.114.65.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF2C13C448 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 23:11:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@stringsutils.com) Received: by zoraida.natserv.net (Postfix, from userid 58) id A4BECC2E9; Fri, 18 May 2007 18:42:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on zoraida.natserv.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, DK_POLICY_SIGNSOME autolearn=disabled version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Report: * 0.0 DK_POLICY_SIGNSOME Domain Keys: policy says domain signs some mails * -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP Received: from 35st.simplicato.com (static-71-249-233-130.nycmny.east.verizon.net [71.249.233.130]) by zoraida.natserv.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE46C2AF; Fri, 18 May 2007 18:42:39 -0400 (EDT) References: Message-ID: X-Mailer: http://www.courier-mta.org/cone/ From: Francisco Reyes To: Charles Sprickman Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 18:42:38 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recommended SATA controllers X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 23:11:50 -0000 Charles Sprickman writes: > I'll need to put some kind of SATA controller in there. What can I buy > that's known to be very stable under 6.2? I recall that in the past some > onboard SATA controllers were a little sketchy... If you need RAID 3ware cards are a possible option. Althrough I rarely have any problems with 3ware cards a couple of times (Freebsd 6.2) the controller has either frozen or restarted the machine. However this has been fairly rare. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 18 23:13:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FCEF16A403 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 23:13:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79C1413C45E for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 23:13:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from cust16202.lava.net ([64.65.95.74] helo=[192.168.0.101]) by rip.psg.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HpBUD-000371-Md; Fri, 18 May 2007 23:03:49 +0000 Message-ID: <464E30C9.1040302@psg.com> Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 13:03:37 -1000 From: Randy Bush User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Charles Sprickman References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recommended SATA controllers X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 23:13:51 -0000 3ware From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 18 23:32:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AEF516A401 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 23:32:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spork@bway.net) Received: from xena.bway.net (xena.bway.net [216.220.96.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF3C113C48A for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 23:32:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spork@bway.net) Received: (qmail 9322 invoked by uid 0); 18 May 2007 23:32:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gee5.nat.fasttrackmonkey.com) (216.220.116.154) by smtp.bway.net with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 18 May 2007 23:32:45 -0000 Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 19:34:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Charles Sprickman X-X-Sender: spork@gee5.nat.fasttrackmonkey.com To: Francisco Reyes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recommended SATA controllers X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 23:32:46 -0000 On Fri, 18 May 2007, Francisco Reyes wrote: > Charles Sprickman writes: > >> I'll need to put some kind of SATA controller in there. What can I buy >> that's known to be very stable under 6.2? I recall that in the past some >> onboard SATA controllers were a little sketchy... > > If you need RAID 3ware cards are a possible option. > Althrough I rarely have any problems with 3ware cards a couple of times > (Freebsd 6.2) the controller has either frozen or restarted the machine. > However this has been fairly rare. I use the 3Ware cards, but this is just a personal box, and I've been happy with gmirror on a few other hosts. I want to save a few bucks and also continue to pummel gmirror to see how it holds up... Looking to spend under $70 or so, which I'm guessing is a pretty high ceiling for a non-RAID card. Thanks! Charles From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 19 02:21:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0871C16A401 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 02:21:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikej@rogers.com) Received: from smtp109.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp109.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.225.207]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9587513C447 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 02:21:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikej@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 33462 invoked from network); 19 May 2007 01:55:10 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=218P3+uFDTGOfyW5sBd99i+VvgUQ6xYUCekMr2aeGnW4L0Doxmqc6I7tpBhIaL7Gv4JFqIdmDLVRMQAJugxDmmaPAFeEY+RzpLBIkU8T/9Hj2AkhG9y2NeAIXuA1xMqTA6Tg4Ztdtfs7X0/5yyFj+3F0w2YYjB0oF8MdBusy978= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?172.16.0.165?) (mikej@rogers.com@99.244.62.78 with plain) by smtp109.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 May 2007 01:55:10 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 9GU2PEQVM1lFfMi8Vt_4JRFK4Fx4gum6ODZ7demZ_mrOpoQ998J0dE2KShZQIaTpNw-- Message-ID: <464E5882.1050105@rogers.com> Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 21:53:06 -0400 From: Mike Jakubik User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Charles Sprickman References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recommended SATA controllers X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 02:21:51 -0000 Charles Sprickman wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a fairly nice dual-xeon Supermicro 1U that needs some parts. > It has onboard PATA and I'd like to throw some SATA drives in and get > an SATA backplane for it (machine has hot swap bays, it's missing any > sort of backplane). > > I'll need to put some kind of SATA controller in there. What can I > buy that's known to be very stable under 6.2? I recall that in the > past some onboard SATA controllers were a little sketchy... I find that the Intel series (ICH) controllers are solid and have good support (i.e. Hot swap) From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 19 08:56:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4EC616A404 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 08:56:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from groot@kde.org) Received: from smeltpunt.science.ru.nl (smeltpunt.science.ru.nl [131.174.16.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5011713C458 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 08:56:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from groot@kde.org) Received: from adsl-dc-2f63f.adsl.wanadoo.nl [83.116.148.63] (helo=ham.local) (authen=adridg) by smeltpunt.science.ru.nl (8.13.7/5.11) with ESMTP id l4J8uNeo016875 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 10:56:24 +0200 (MEST) From: Adriaan de Groot Organization: KDE-NL To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 10:56:24 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 + Features References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200705191056.25359.groot@kde.org> Subject: Re: Recommended SATA controllers X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 08:56:25 -0000 On Saturday 19 May 2007 01:34:01 Charles Sprickman wrote: > Looking to spend under $70 or so, which I'm guessing is a pretty high > ceiling for a non-RAID card. Various Promise controllers (TX2, TX4, 4302) fall in the high end of that range, as do (PCI 2-port) SiI 3112 controllers. There's also the SiI 3124 (PCI-X 4-port) and SiI 3132 (PCIe x1 2-port) but those are in -CURRENT only or you need to MFC them yourself (I can give you a tarball of that, but obviously those are all way off the supported track). Those SiI cards will go for about $30, I think. ICH is -- unless Intel has suddenly started packaging them on discrete cards -- probably not an option. -- KDE Quality Team http://www.englishbreakfastnetwork.org/ GPG: FEA2 A3FE http://people.fruitsalad.org/adridg/ "It is impossible to make an emphatic point with only two arms."